Ep. 193 - Count Chad-ula - Horror of Dracula

It's part 3 of Revenge Month! This week Nick and Chris are re-doing the 1958 Hammer classic, Horror of Dracula. Starring Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing!

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Episode Transcript

(00:44):
Hey everybody, welcome to big dumb monsters.
I'm Nick. And I'm Chris.
And we watched. We re watched an absolute
classic, The Horror of Dracula from 1958.
Yeah, this is part three of our ongoing Revenge Month.
Yeah, which we didn't actually mention during the.
Show Not once, no. Not once, no.

(01:06):
Because the joke got old. It's fine.
We should also mention like the the theme, well, it's going to
be still the revenge theme goingforward, but like, we're
switching gears a little bit. We're not because we're out of
movies that we fucked up before.Yeah, now we're just going to
revenge themed movies. So yeah, next week is Jaws the
Revenge. Oh fuck you, I'm looking forward

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to it. I'm not, but anyway we we love
this movie. Yeah, couple of couple of
hiccups in in the in the movie, but overall it's just so good.
Yeah, Christopher Lee, Peter Cushing.
Just phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, we, we go on and on.

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But how much we love this movie 'cause it's it's pretty bad ass,
Yeah. Just super mixed words.
Yeah. Yeah.
Anyway, we'll get into it. You'll find out why we love this
movie on this episode of Big Dumb Monsters.
Let's check it out. Enjoy the show.

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Yeah. All right.
Now we're recording. Are we?
Are you sure? Yeah, look, it's.
Yeah, it's doing the thing. It's doing the thing.
It's doing the thing all right. Now we can actually start the
show. I forgot how fucking awesome the
opening this movie is. The Dracula name plaque and then
it starts dripping blood on the motherfucker.
Are you kidding me? How gothic is this fucking

(03:07):
movie? Yeah, yeah, I I do really have a
new found love for these Hammer horror movies.
Like yeah, they are the fucking shit.
Yeah, and like nothing about this movie says 1958.
Not a God damn thing. Not at all.
Yeah. Yeah, for real.
Like this is so I mean not modern because it's not there's.

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No computer graphics or anything.
Yeah, I mean it's but it like for its time, it is so advanced.
It's like grizzly. It's got ambience for days.
It's it's just got, it's dripping with like sinister
energy. The music I really noticed this

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time watching through like is pretty fucking awesome.
Like it? Is but I wish maybe maybe cut
back on like the oboe a little bit.
I think, I think that's what that.
You're going for like a, you know, an Eastern European,
Eastern European Peter and the wolf type.
Yeah, I forgot how much they changed the story for this

(04:15):
movie. It's like drastic, yeah.
Like mash up of like just different characters and plot
lines from the original story like.
But I don't hate it. It works.
It's, it's fine. It's, it's, it's enough to get
you into the story and then likeyou're on your way and then you
you have a Dracula movie. It also keeps it from being like

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the same old thing we've seen before, like, you know, yeah.
For people who have read the book, yeah.
And then for people who have seen Nosferatu, yeah.
And then for people that have seen Dracula with Bela Lugosi
and like, they turn it around a little bit, they they twist some
shit. Like, OK, he's a librarian, but

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he's also secretly a fucking vampire hunter.
What? Jonathan Harker, you sly dog.
I I do fucking love Peter Cushing in these movies too man.
Oh yeah. Yeah, he is just.
He's the best part of these. Yeah, he easily the best part.
We 100% need to get that new NECA Van Helsing figure.

(05:18):
Dude they that they announced this?
Six sons of bitches. Yeah, yeah, they, it was a
couple weeks ago they announced they're issuing like a Peter
Cushing, Van Helsing figure, like, yeah, yeah, we need that.
But it's sick though, because it's got like the different
hands in it and the one is him holding the Candlestick cross.
Yeah, get the fuck out of here. I.

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Love the just the scenery like the look of this movie.
Yeah, dude, everything's good. You know what actually is like
the worst part of this movie is the acting with the blanking on
his name, The guy who plays Jonathan Harker and Christopher
Lee. Christopher Lee's acting as

(05:59):
stiff as shit in this movie. Like when he's actually
delivering lines. Is it?
To be fair, he doesn't have muchto say.
Yeah, when he's when he's like just being a menace.
Yeah, outstanding. Amazing when he's actually mid
dialogue with this guy, stiff asa board.
And so is he. Like I don't know what the fuck
it was. I will say I think like the back

(06:25):
like 3rd of this movie tends to drag a little bit.
Like I could use a little bit more Dracula in that part of the
movie because he just fucks off after like for like for a good
chunk of the movie. So I I wish there was some more
Dracula like I I really, I thinkwould have like really brought
this like up to like almost a 10in my opinion, because like this

(06:47):
is I, I love all of this. Yeah.
Yeah, it could have. It could have used a little
more. Either give me like a little
more Dracula in the middle of the movie where he's really just
not around at all. Just like what's.
Oh, just like a flash of like, oh, what's he doing or something
like that. Or make the end more intense.

(07:07):
Yeah, like because if that build, because I don't mind the
build up, Act one, act two, act 3, they're all solid.
But I agree with you that we could definitely use more
Dracula or or vampire action. You know, like no matter who it
is. I do like the fight between
like, Dracula and Van Helsing, but it is really quick.
Yeah, it's fast. I wish it was a little bit
longer. Like I, I just it again, like

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the look of everything, the lookof Dracula when he's exposed to
sunlight where he just starts crumbling.
Yeah, it's so cool. Yeah, So good.
Yeah. Like atmosphere, music to
filmography, like everything is just so good in this movie.

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And this is like, this is like the jumping, jumping off point.
Like if you're going to get intoHammer movies, you start with
the. Start here.
Yeah, this is a good one to start with.
Because it's not. It's not as intense as they get,
but it's it's just top notch quality.
It's testing the waters, like ifyou're good with this, like, OK,
then you're going to be good with where we're going with
everything. Else right.

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I am, I, I guys, I was looking through like some of the credits
earlier, like I am looking forward to doing some other
hammer stuff now. For sure.
Well, I mean, we say that every time we watch.
Every single time. Yeah, every single time.
But I mean, not just like the Dracula movies and stuff because
it's all we've we've really done.
And the Mummy, which was also bad ass.
Yeah, less, less so, but good. Yeah.

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Christopher Lee is just like, it's just, he's just intense.
And I like the twist that like instead of just being a real
estate agent or whatever, he OK,he has decided to come to work
for him as a librarian, but he'sinvestigating him.
He's a, he's a vampire hunter sick twist.

(08:58):
Like he's infiltrating. He's doing a fucking spy job on
Dracula. It's deep cover shit, right?
Yeah, yeah, it's. Fucking awesome.
You don't see that? Like what other movie has stuff
like that? Yeah.
Yeah, that is a cool concept. I'm like, I'm surprised they
haven't used that and anything else.
I'm glad they haven't, you know,like, I don't want that to be

(09:20):
like the next big trope or whatever.
I could use a movie with that and like now it's not because it
hasn't been used. Yet do it like a newer version,
sure. Yeah, I'm trying to like, think
of like I'm trying to like compare this honestly to
Nosferatu, the newer 1 where they're like, they're both kind

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of, I think in the same vein. They're they're really about the
story, the drama, like the slow build.
Yeah, yeah. But they execute on so many
different things in such different ways, it's kind of
unfair to to kind of compare them like that.
I mean, if you go like, oh, it'sa Dracula movie, then yeah, I

(10:06):
actually like this better than Nosferatu.
But if you're going for like, it's an intense kind of
thriller, get your blood pumpingkind of movie.
Yeah, the newer Nosferatu is is way better in terms of that.
So just depends on what you're looking for.
Yeah, let's see what else is there to say about this?

(10:29):
I feel like this is going to be a short episode it.
Might not be. The better known as does is not
going to be long. Oh no.
It fucking, this was one of those movies to do the research
on. It's just painful because like
everybody has like 200 film roles and it's all British shit
and nobody's ever heard of. Yeah, it's back when everybody

(10:50):
worked for the the film company instead of just like, yeah, they
were contracted to make 1000 fucking movies.
Yeah, when acting was like you're nine to five job,
basically. Yeah, Yeah, I definitely could
use more Dracula. I'm trying to think of other

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criticisms. I don't have many.
There's not a lot, it's just it's structured fine, everything
looks good. I mean, I guess if I have a a
major criticism, which is like not real, it's not a real
problem. Yeah.

(11:32):
Every time they go to stake someone through the heart,
they're at about here, you know,like, yeah, yeah.
About 5 inches too short, You know, like you're, you're,
you're. A little higher, yeah, you're
hitting the. Diaphragm there, guy.
What fucking? It was The Simpsons though, when
they did Bram Stoker's Dracula and like Homer goes to stake Mr.

(11:55):
Burns, who's the Dracula stand in And like, I think it's bars.
I know it's Lisa. I was like, Dad, that's his
crotch. Yeah, Yep, yeah.
That was in one of the early tree House of horrors.
Yeah. Like within the 1st.
Mid 90s, yeah. Fuck, I like, oh man, I just, I

(12:23):
want more of like all of this for real, because like, we
don't, you know? I want a period piece vampire
movie. Yeah, you don't get like the
slow period piece, you know, burn like horror movie like this
anymore. No well and and when you do,
people don't it'll fall into twocategories.
People hate it because it's a slow burn or people are like so

(12:48):
up their own ass in the artisticquality of a slow burn that they
don't actually judge the movie as a movie.
So it's like it's a toss up. It's either it's a smug prick on
either side, realistically. Either way, you're dealing with
a douche bag. Yeah, like look at look at
Crimson Peak, right? Like slow burn.

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People didn't love it. Douche bags like me fucking love
it, you know? What's another like slow burn
vampire movie like you do? Well, you know what?
Ferrati, we just kind of said, but that even that's not really.
Like that's not a slow burn. There's always something
happening. Yeah.

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Like Demeter was kind of a slow burn.
Yeah. But it was also like, like
chilling and gripping you like, through the whole movie.
Yeah, that's like probably the closest thing to a Hammer movie
we've gotten in a long time. Yeah.
I rewatched that just recently, it's so fucking good.
Yes, it's so fucking. Good.
I've put it on like while going to sleep recently a couple of

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times. Yeah, Yeah.
That's a good one. Dude, Jesus, I shouldn't punch
the table. Yeah, I, I love like shot setups
like this where they're they're at the bottom of the stairs and
then everything's happening up top.
It's lit different colors throughout the whole fucking
thing. There's a couple of really

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awesome shots too of Dracula. Like, there's one, like earlier
on, it might be coming up in a minute or two where, like, you
see him like running from behind, he's in the castle and
like, his Cape is just fucking like, flowing behind him.
Like, yeah. Yeah, it's sick.
And then later on in the movie when he's like trying, I think
it's towards the end when he's trying to get back to the
castle, like he steals a fuckinglike coach and like he's just

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fucking furiously driving this coach through the woods and
like, it's same thing like Cape.Is just reckless abandoned.
Yeah, yeah, Cape is just flowinglike it just looks really cool.
There's other cool parts like like when Van Helsing was it Van
Helsing whoever goes down to thebasement of the house and they

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find Dracula's coffin there and then they cut quick to Dracula
running away like out of that room because he knows he's been
had. Oh, yes, yeah, he's Van Helsing.
It's a yeah. Yeah, it is Van Helsing because.
He's dropping up the trap door because.
He drops the crucifix into the fucking dirt.
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Just. Cool shit.
Like it's just cool shit. Yeah.

(15:22):
God damn I kind of hate this bride of Dracula.
Yeah. Yeah, not like hater, but like
this whole like thing could havebeen used to greater effect I
think. Yeah, where she's really, like,
not sold on the whole experiencequite yet, like she's trying to
get out. Yeah, but is she trying to get

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out or is she just trying to fool him into a false sense of
like security just so she can bite him?
Yeah, it's, I think it's, I think it's because it's so
unclear is why I don't, I don't necessarily care for it.
But overall it's fucking awesome.
Like how fucking pissed is Dracula that she bit him?

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Like fucking furious the airy leaps over the table like that.
Yeah, God damn. God damn.
There's just so much style, you know, Like you, you don't get
style anymore. There's no fucking.
Everything just over the top, hit you on the head just, you
know, a million times to get thepoint across.
Yeah. Oh, there it is.

(16:28):
Be subtle. Corned beef and cabbage all
right there, Yeah. Delightful.
Yeah, Christopher Lee is fuckingawesome as Dracula.
He is, he really is. And like, I don't know why, but
just like his acting in the beginning of this movie was just
fucking off. Like just the, the, the dialogue

(16:50):
shit that he was having. Just there was no, like, I don't
know, just, I don't know if he was just like not into it, if he
didn't like the dialogue, he's just kind of just slogging
through it or what. Yeah, yeah.
I was even thinking maybe like it was intentionally that way
because like Dracula isn't used to probably talking to people.
He's trying to like, yeah. You know, he's just fucking,

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he's trying to lure this guy here for whatever reason.
Yeah. But if that's the case, it's
it's not great. That would have been a poor
decision. I love the look of Castle
Dracula too. This is the most like
Castlevania esque like depictionof it.
Yeah, yeah. Dad's sick all.

(17:37):
Right. I think we can throw some
ratings on this bad boy. I just.
Want to watch it? Yeah, I just want to watch.
This. Yeah, he's going to watch us
watch this for the next hour. It is short too.
It's like an hour or. 20 minutes, yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to throw ratingson.
Do you want to go first? Yeah.

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This I like, this is just I, I really, really love this.
I am going to go, you know what?I'm going to go 9.
I'm going to go 9. That's strong, Strong nine.
I was thinking 85, but like, what can I really dig it on
other than like it gets slow a little bit.
Other than that, it's fucking yeah.
This is a nine. I think I am at 8 five.

(18:20):
Yeah, I am at 8 five and it's a strong 85.
But you know, like the like the things I talked about, like the
acting at the beginning is just weird and stiff and doesn't
really like, there's no like flow to their conversation.
Yeah, yeah. But like after that, like,
everybody's awesome. Everybody's amazing in this

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movie. And then right, like we could
use either a little more Draculain Act 2 or more action in Act
3. Yeah, I mean, like we do see him
a little bit like terrorizing. Is it Mina I?
Don't. It is Mina.
OK, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Lucy is the way.

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Yeah. Lucy dies.
She's the aunt trying to like, remember her, like the mixed.
Yeah, how they mixed it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lucy is Batman's Butler's wife. Fucking no, Mina.
Wait, it's Batman's Butler's wife.
Yes, Lucy. Lucy is.
Is his sister. Is his sister.

(19:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think we're move on to the
trivia. All right, let's move on to
trivia. I know we have a button for.
This we sure do. You made it so, yeah.
It even says it's just trivia, not to bother you with trivia.

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Oh, that is a washed out camera right there.
Why does it fucking do that every goddamn week?
I don't know, it's fine. It's fine.
It's fine. It don't matter.
It don't fucking mad, all right?The Cape, worn by Christopher
Lee, was discovered in 2007 in aLondon costume shop during its

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annual inventory taking. It had been missing for 30 years
and is believed to be worth around $50,000.
Lee was contacted to verify its authenticity.
Oh. Man, that is you.
Can imagine it was like, oh thisis Christopher Lee's Cape.
Dracula Cape. OK, I find 50 grand, I'd buy it.

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If I had 50 grand to blow, yeah,that's the that is the thing I
would blow it on. Yeah, Asterisk.
Yeah, you're doing every episodein that cave.
I will never have 50 grand to blow.
Never. Christopher Lee as Dracula has
only 16 lines in the entire film, all dispensed in the 10

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minute mark or by the 10 minute mark.
Yeah, he doesn't speak for the rest of the.
Movie. No, it's just grunts and hisses.
It's all makeup and grunting. Promise that whiskey we're.
Not even doing a Bella Lugosi? Yeah, sure not.
We're still falling into a BellaLugosi quote, Hall.

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God damn it, I want to watch that movie again.
Yeah, on several occasions, Sir Christopher Lee complained about
the contact lenses that he had to wear for the shock scenes.
Not only were they quite painful, but he couldn't see a
thing while running towards a vampire woman, for instance.
He ran too far past the camera on the first take, which we

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talked about that when we did. Oh, the the second.
This oh oh, Dracula's risen fromthe.
Grave Dracula's risen from the grave because they they cut the
whole. That's the third.
One, actually. Whatever.
Yeah, which whichever one we did, yeah, we did.
The second one didn't. We no, that is the Brides of

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Dracula, which I would like to watch.
Oh yeah, I didn't realize we skipped it.
That one, I believe, is Christopher Leeless.
But anyway, because they remedied those contacts in that
movie, OK? So he could actually fucking
see. So I remember doing that trivia.

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Yeah. Oh, bless you then.
Bless you again. According to Sir Christopher
Lee's autobiography, he receivedonly $750 for his portrayal of
Dracula. He also states that this movie
eventually grossed $25 million US.
Jesus Christ, think about it. His Cape is worth many times

(22:51):
more than what he got paid. Yeah, to be in the movie.
Yeah, that's so. That's so crazy.
Like $750 though. Yeah.
I mean, I guess if you're in a fucking movie a month.
Even in 50s money, that's still like not a lot of fucking money.

(23:13):
It's maybe like what, like 2500 bucks, probably like 3 grand,
yeah. I don't know.
At most 5 grand, let's say yeah.Yeah, but maybe he's making two
movies a month. Yeah.
All right. In one scene, Mia Holmwood exits

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her bedroom after having been seduced and bitten by Dracula
with a very satisfied and seductive smile on her face,
director Terence Fisher, after afew botched takes, reportedly
told actress Melissa Stribbling.Just imagine you've had the best
sex of your life all night long.Dracula just blew that thing

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out. Providing exactly the right
motivation, they then proceeded to wrap the scene up after the
first take. Yeah, just imagine that.
Dracula broke that fucking back dawg.
Sorry Sir, Dracula obliterated your wife's pussy.

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Blood isn't the only thing getting sucked tonight.
Oh, it's going to be like dropping a pencil into the Grand
Canyon from now on. It's.
That's what it's just like afteryou follow Christopher Lee
anyway. Fucking things like this.

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Man. Homeboy's got A5 skin, according
according to Christopher Lee. He tried to play the character
of Dracula according to his theory of the loneliness of
evil. He had developed this theory

(25:02):
after reading the original novel.
In Lee's view, direct Dracula feels lonely and does not
actually want to survive. Dracula continues existing
because he feels that he has no choice.
All right, I mean, that's cool. Like I'm not going to tell
Christopher Lee how to play his character and I'm.
Going to tell him how to do anything, Yeah, mainly because

(25:24):
he's dead, but. Pretty much it.
Yeah, Yeah. If he was alive, he wouldn't
tell him. He did everything better than I
could ever do, but no. But it's rad.
But like. Dracula, them malicious home
wreckers. I mean, like, yeah, so Dracula

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is one of those. Like, I mean, depending on who's
playing it and what's going on in the movie, Dracula is one of
those like, like, sympathetic villains.
Yeah. They're like, you know, he's a
monster, but he maybe he doesn'twant to be a monster.
He has to suck people's blood orhe dies, you know, like he
seduces people because that's the only way he knows how to be,

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you know, he. Doesn't want to bang your wife,
but he's going. He's fucking gonna.
Let's see here. The filming of Dracula's
destruction included a shot in which Dracula appears to peel
away his decaying skin. This was accomplished by putting

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a layer of red makeup on Sir Christopher Lee's face and then
covering his entire face with a thin coating of mortician's wax,
which was then made-up to conform to his normal skin tone
when he raked his fingers acrossthe wax or revealed the raw
marks underneath. This startling sequence was cut
out but was restored for the 2012 Blu-ray release using

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footage from a badly damaged Japanese print.
All right. It's freaking Japanese.
They get all the cool stuff. Do you like, do you remember?
Do you remember like import CDs?Oh, you, you had Japanese
imports, Yeah. We were like it.
It was like the the album that you know and then there was 2

(27:15):
fucking bad ass tracks that you could never get unless you got
the import CD. Yeah.
Oh yeah. It cost you like 50-60 bucks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sons of bitches.
Oh God, we're old. Yeah.
Peter Cushing did the stunt where he leaps over the banister
himself. He insisted on doing so against

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the studio's concerns that he might injure himself All.
Right. Bad ass.
He does take a flying leap at the curtains too, at the end.
Yeah. Like he just launches himself
off the tail and grabs onto those curtains.
The. Fucking window was open too, I'm
sure it led to the floor outside.

(27:58):
Yeah, like this is 1958. There's no pads on the other
side of that window. Oh man.
The now iconic use of two cross candlesticks to form a makeshift
crucifix was suggested by actor Peter Cushing, known badass who
thought his character had used too many regular crucifixes in

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the story already. He also suggested that his
character run across the dining room table to leap upon the
closed curtains, tearing them down and exposing Dracula to the
sunlight to increase the action.And he's fucking right.
Like if I have Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing in a movie and
either one of them says, you know, it could be cool or like,

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you know what I think would helpthis scene, I'm all ears.
I'm going to listen. Whatever you guys want.
Yeah, God damn. Especially Peter Cushing.
Yeah, there were at the end whenDracula's like disintegrating,
there's like a, like a, a puppetversion.

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Not a puppet, but like, you know, clearly like a plant, you
know, fake. Version.
Yeah, yeah, and the eyes are just a little too close
together. Yeah, yeah.
Yep. Oh, Dracula became special
before he died. Burned him.
Burned him down. So like, brought out a couple

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extra chromosomes. Jesus Christ.
We're not good people. During the exciting climax where
the film of the film where Dracula throws Mina into an open
grave he has dug for her, the stunt double playing Mina was
heavier than Christopher Lee anticipated and he fell into the

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grave with her. He does fucking Chuck her in
there. Like, yeah, like, I thought it
had to have been a dummy or something, but now apparently it
was a person because he's like, just like.
Like in the beginning of the movie where he's manhandling the
his bride basically he's like really fucking throwing her

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around. He.
Throws her into the step like bythe.
Chair. Jesus Christ it's dinner cold
like grandpa, like what the fuck.
Pizza's not dinner. Hard disagree by the way.
Pizza is fucking dinner. Absolutely.

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This was such a huge hit internationally that the
following year Christopher Lee was hired to go to Italy and
essentially recreate his Draculacharacter for the Italian comedy
Uncle Was a Vampire from 1959 All.
Right. Can you imagine?
Just fucking? It's 1959.
You're hanging out with Christopher Lee in Italy while

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he's just making a shitty Dracula knock off and he doesn't
give a fuck about like just the partying and drinking and dude
is slinging Dick like holy shit.Fuck.
I would like to check that out. Body count for this movie is 5.

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All right, trying to think of Lucy Harker.
No, it's Mina. It's not Lucy.
No, Lucy's the one that dies. No, Mina.
Mina, Are you sure? Yeah.
Because I thought Mina was married to Michael Goff.

(31:35):
I thought she was Mina. No, because like here in the
trivia it says he throws Mina into an open grave.
Yeah, so Lucy's the one that dies.
They both die. No, wait, I'm having a stroke.
Yeah, 'cause he throws meat intothe grave at the end of the

(31:57):
movie. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, OK.
You're right. You're right.
Again, with like, the way they change up, like the characters
and the relationships, it's fucking makes everything really
confusing. Yep, Are you ready for some one
star reviews? Oh, that's right.
I forgot we were doing this. Yeah, yeah.
Hell yeah. One star reviews for this movie.

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There's a list of people who suck, basically, she says.
Yeah. All right, here is the titles.
The story sucks. Acting is crap.
No. And they reiterate here for you,
this story sucks. Acting is crap.
We got that from the title. Best part of the movie is the
cinematography, sets and music. The story and acting sucks.

(32:41):
So 80% of the movie is awesome, so I'm going to give it a one
star. Yeah, this is a dude's favorite
Dracula movie. It's probably like Dracula 2000,
you know? Yeah.
Let's see. Lee's acting is the worst.
His opening dialogue about character categorizing his books
for his library is nonsense. Dracula with a British accent.

(33:05):
A real disappointment. Lee looks good in the Dracula
costume, but once he opens his mouth not not to bit to speak,
it's laughter time. I wouldn't go that far, but
yeah, it's not great, but. Yeah, Peter Cushing is good.
No, Peter Cushing is great, but nothing else can save the movie.

(33:27):
Please stop being blinded by thelove of Dracula and the
costumes. The sets, the costumes, the
cinematography and the music arevery good.
But the story is just painful. The dialogue and accents
embarrassing. People.
Suck, Yeah, get fucked, dawg. Yeah, get fucked.
You know how he sounds English because he's fucking English and

(33:47):
not trying to just do a weird Belagosi accent.
Yeah, weird Eastern European accent.
Yeah, like I whatever your criticisms are like, you know of
of Christopher Lee's acting. I'm sorry, Peter Cushioning is
not crap in this movie. He's fucking awesome.
Yeah, he's not good. Yeah.
Fucking. Next, we have a horrified

(34:09):
Dracula. This should be called a
horrified Dracula instead of horror of Dracula.
See how that old? Yeah, see how that old poor
thing portrayed by Christopher Lee hurries in his attempt to
escape like a chicken fleeing inthe sight of Van Helsing, his
expression extremely horrified. Why did this piece of crap gain

(34:30):
the fame and popularity it does not deserve?
Maybe it was a classic and didn't used to stink back in
1958, but today is truly unworthy of watching.
That's a guy whose favorite Dracula movie is Dracula 2000.
Yeah, one, I was trying to thinkof another shitty like vampire

(34:51):
movie. There's tons of them.
But favorite drew hacking the movie is Dracula 3000.
That just hurts to even know that it exists.
Yeah, it does. It does.
And this is our last one star review.
All right. Absolutely dreadful.

(35:14):
I'd like to start off by saying I couldn't even get through the
entire movie. The acting was all right.
Well, now the acting is just allright.
Yeah, I have nothing bad to say about it.
However, just the storyline of the movie was terrible.
If you're going to base your adaptation of a movie on a
novel, follow the storyline or change it in ways that makes it

(35:35):
interesting and fits your movie.I.
Mean, technically, if you followthe storyline of the novel, it's
going to be a movie of people just sitting writing letters,
writing letters back and forth. Yeah, yeah, they're reading the
newspaper. Yep, let's see.
If you're going to change prettymuch everything about it, you
may as well change the names of the characters and create your
own very own movie. From the very beginning, the

(35:57):
movie didn't follow the novel aside from the names of the
characters. It was pathetic.
I'm a huge vampire fan and I just couldn't get through it.
Which tells me you're not. I tried to ignore the incredible
list of differences, but still, I couldn't watch.
I found myself laughing at things you weren't supposed to
be scary. I'm sorry, I found myself

(36:19):
laughing at things that were supposed to be scary.
It was horrible, plain and simple.
This guy sounds like a neckbeard.
It's not accurate to the novel. Yeah.
Bridget was talking about this the other day on Fighting with
Friends. How like we're plagued with an
epidemic of people like who can't like appreciate art on

(36:46):
ironically, there's always the people who like laugh at things
and like ruin it for everybody else, like.
Yeah, because nobody wants to invest themselves into anything.
Yeah, yeah. So fuck that.
Dude, I totally get that. Yeah.
All right. Let's move on to the better
known as. All right.
I know you. I knew.
I knew you. I knew.

(37:09):
I knew. I yeah, we are blowing through
this part of the show quick. Oh yeah, that's short.
Yeah, up first we have director Terence Fisher, who we have just
talked about because he is a Hammer veteran to say the very
least. Some of the other movies he's

(37:30):
directed. Frankenstein and the Monster
from Hell, Frankenstein Must be Destroyed, Frankenstein Created
Woman, Island of Terror, Dracula, Prince of Darkness,
Earth, Die Screaming the Gorgon,the horror of it all.
Sherlock Holmes movie thrown in there.
Sure, why not. Fan of the opera, The devil's
hands, The curse of the werewolf.

(37:51):
I'm looking forward to watching that one too.
That's the one with Oliver Reed,another Hammer movie.
Oliver. Reed movie fucking.
I think Tom and I talked about this on Defenestration Hour
recently. Do you know how Oliver Reed
died? I vaguely recall it being

(38:12):
something ridiculous, but no he.Got into a drinking contest with
a bunch of Irish sailors while filming Gladiator.
Had something, I think it was like 17 pints or something like
that. Won the drinking contest, then
went back to the movie set and died the next morning.
After 17. Look, I think he was 17 just in

(38:35):
the drinking contest. Oh yeah, yeah, he probably had
17 before the drinking. Contest Yeah, yeah, yeah Oh yeah
back to Terence Fisher, two faces of Doctor Jekyll, the
brides of Dracula. That might be the one the the
second one of the series. Oh, it's. 1960.
Yeah, two years after this. He also directed The Mummy 1959,

(38:58):
so a year after this, another Sherlock Holmes movie, The Hound
of the Baskervilles, 1959. I wonder if those Sherlock
Holmes movies were Hammer. Could because they show up in a
lot of these credits, The Revenge of Frankenstein 1958,
the Mickey Mouse Club episodes he was the director of anymore.

(39:22):
He did The Curse of Frankensteinin 57 that I'm looking forward
to also. Yeah, that might be it as far as
the horror stuff. I mean, yeah, it's probably 4
sided triangle. What?
Somebody failed geometry. Up next, Peter Cushion, who is

(39:45):
of course our Van Helsing in this movie.
He is a another veteran of Hammer horror movies but is
probably most well known as Grand Moth Tarkin. in Star Wars
Episode 4 he plays Victor Frankenstein in The Curse of
Frankenstein. Yet another reason I'm really
looking forward to watching thatonce we get around to it.

(40:12):
He wasn't top secret in 1984, which is a fucking great comedy.
People will argue that is an even better like Zucker Brothers
comedy than Airplane. Yeah, they're pretty close.
Which one was top secret? With Val Kilmer, where like,

(40:33):
he's like a, like a secret agent.
He's supposed to be like a pop singer or something like that.
Like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's supposed to be like a BeachBoys type singer instead.
Instead of surfing the sport he's singing.
He's singing about his skeet surfing where it's like people
lose shotguns. Yeah, like on fucking
surfboards, like. That's so stupid.

(41:04):
He wasn't a Hammer. House of Horror, 1980.
Son of Hitler, 1970. 9. I think he was.
He was in space 1999. Only one episode of that.
Legend of the werewolf. Legend of the 7 golden vampires,

(41:25):
Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell.
Oh, he's in Madhouse with Vincent Price, 1974.
That's a pretty good movie. I don't think I've seen like
bits and pieces of. It Oh really?
Yeah, it's worth a dedicated watch all.
Right. I mean, most, I mean most
Vincent Price stuff is like, obviously not everything because

(41:47):
like some of the shit, you know,he was just doing for paycheck.
Yeah, Yeah. But like in the 60s and 70s, you
can't go wrong with a Vincent Price horror movie.
All right, all right. He was in The Satanic Rites of
Dracula 1973. The Creeping Flesh Also 73.

(42:11):
Doctor Fibes rides again 1972. Dracula AD 72.
Also in 1972. He was in the Tales from the
Crypt movie. Again in 1972.
How's the drift blood? The vampire lovers?
Frankenstein must be destroyed. Frankenstein created.

(42:33):
So a lot of the same like, you know, Frankenstein and like
Hammer stuff shows up. Yeah, they, they would cast
somebody as a role and then justlike continue with them.
You know, like he always plays Van Helsing, he always plays
Baron Frankenstein. Christopher Lee pretty much
always plays. The monster, whatever the move
he does. Well, in the in The Mummy, in

(42:55):
The Mummy, in Dracula. Was he Frankenstein?
Christopher Lee, Yeah, yes, he played Frankenstein in one of
those fucking movies. He was and I I believe like now,
lost Doctor Who movie Doctor, excuse me, Daleks, Daleks,

(43:18):
Daleks. Jesus Christ.
Daleks. Invasion of the Earth, 2150 AD
Doctor Terrors, House of Horrors, the Gorgon, a lot of
English shit, a lot of English shit.
The Brides of Dracula 1960. Of course he is Doctor Van

(43:38):
Helsing. Oh hey, we gave the mummy an 8.
We did because it was awesome. The Revenge of Frankenstein,
Abominable Snowman, Alexander the Great.
I'm going to say for a 1956 Alexander the Great movie, they

(44:00):
glossed over some things. Yeah, there's that meme.
I saw it again. I've seen it a couple times.
I saw it again a couple days ago.
Like fucking. It's like, you know, Alexander,
I forget who like who his his lover was, but like, you know, I

(44:20):
think it was like a face to guess or something like that.
Like dies like Alexander is inconsolable for a year
afterwards, builds a great temple like does all this stuff
and like and the like the last thing is like my dad.
So what are they friends or something?
Yeah, I said I'm going to share.I'm pretty sure they probably
glazed over some stuff that adaptation.

(44:46):
Moulin Rouge. Yeah, the 1950s version.
Yeah, we're into the 40s. Yeah, there's not much we're
going to know in here. He was the man of the Iron Mask
in 1939. Good Lord.
Of course. He was, you know, in his 30s.
Yeah. Up next, we have Christopher

(45:07):
Lee, who we have talked about atlength before because the man
fucking kicks ass. Yeah.
I mean, you've seen him in something in some major pop
culture like piece of fucking film.
This. Is like if you don't know him as
Count Dooku, which is I guess reasonable you fucking know him

(45:30):
as. Saruman or you might know him as
Dracula. Like, yeah, but yeah, he is
just, well, was, I mean just youknew him from something.
He was all over the place. He was in a bunch of the later
era Tim Burton shit. Yeah, he was Willy Wonka's dad
in the Tim Burton Willy Wonka movie.

(45:52):
Shows up in the terrible Tim Burton Dark Shadows movie.
He was the he was. He did the voice work for the
priest in the Corpse Pride. OK, he was in the Tim Burton
Alice in Wonderland. Oh yeah, that's right.
Kingdom Hearts OK did some voicework in one of the games?

(46:18):
I've I played the, I played the first one of those and I just
like I couldn't do it. And it's Disney Final Fantasy.
Like, yeah, we get it. Yeah.
All right, we're going to move on because we have talked about
Christopher Lee at length multiple times.
Up next, Michael Goff, who was in this movie.
He was Arthur Homewood. He is most known to the world as

(46:41):
Alfred Pennyworth in the 80s and90s Batman movies.
Yeah, which he was awesome at. Yeah, he was a good Alfred.
Yeah, for sure. He didn't give you the like the
bad ass Alfred, but he gave you like the just like, I don't know

(47:04):
everything, everything that thatcharacter needed in those
movies. Yeah, like the proper English
Butler, like, yeah, yeah. The classic Alfred, I guess, if
you will. He shows up in Sleepy Hollow in
1999. The Tim Burton one of course.
There was apparently an OnStar Batman series.
I don't know if it just played on like OnStar devices but.

(47:27):
Oh. Jesus, he played Alfred?
It's got a 6.5 rating. TV mini series?
Weird. Yeah.
Sure, he played Leo Tolstoy in an episode of Young Indiana
Jones. I'm good.
Yeah, I do not remember there being ATV miniseries of

(47:51):
Nightfall in 1994. No.
Yeah, sounds like it was animated or something.
Which one was nightfall? Where Bane breaks Batman's back.
Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's see. More Batman.
Yeah, more Batman. OK to right a bit of a a bit of

(48:15):
a Batman like side thing. Did you wind up listening to
that Riddler podcast? No, I still have the tab open on
the phone. I will get to it, it's good.
It's so good. All right.
It's it's the Azrael story, but like, different, Yeah.
Yeah, All right, I'm down for that.
Yeah. Oh, Mattis, tatter what's going

(48:36):
on? Yeah.
Where do you know Christopher Lee from?
It's yeah, It's a personality test.
Yeah, same as Tim Curry. Yeah, where do you know Tim
Curry from? Yep.
Clue legend. It's clear.
Rocky Horror. Yeah.

(48:57):
Yeah. Batman 1989 only a 7.5.
That is 8.5. Easy.
Yeah, yeah. I mean fucking for Nicholson
alone, that should be at least afucking 8.
So quotable. Yeah.
This town needs an enema. Enema.

(49:20):
Not an exorcism. I don't know.
I kind of like that one. He was also in Top Secret 1984.
Also shows up in Doctor Who. Again, British working actor.
You're going to get in Doctor Who at some point.

(49:41):
Just wait your turn, get in the line.
We'll give you your Doctor Who part.
Here's your $500. Carry on.
Carry on. He was in Venom, not the mid
twenty 10s superhero movie. Was that twenty 10s?
Yeah, 2018, I want to say. Because like the second one

(50:03):
just. Third one just.
Third one, Jesus Christ, that was the third one.
Wasn't it? Yeah, yeah.
Boys from Brazil 1978. We're probably going to move on
from here because there's probably not a lot.
Yeah. Let me guess, he's wizarding The
Avengers. Let's say the British one again.

(50:23):
That was like Doctor Who. Just get in the line, you'll get
your part. Yeah.
What was that, the 60s? Yeah.
All right, we're going to. Move on.
Yeah, fuck. It.
We ain't got time for that, Except we have all the time for.
That last up Jeffrey Belden. He was in this movie as
something. Nice.

(50:44):
Yeah, I think it was a smaller role because he was like one of
the last people like on the list.
I only saved him because he plays Q in the original 1968 I
believe Casino Royale the one with Peter Falk, not Peter Falk.

(51:04):
No, not Peter Falk. Peter Sellers, That's that's
what I mean. Peter Falk Colombo, Yeah, Oh my
God. Oh my God.
Peter Falk as James Bond. Bond.

(51:30):
James. Well, yeah, my name is James
Bond. Bond pussy, I must be dreaming.
God old people jokes fuck. If you know what Metamucil

(51:52):
tastes like, you laughed at thatfucking joke.
Oh. Lord, I am just confirming that
it was 1968. Jesus Christ.
No, it wasn't. So much stuff. 1967 And was it

(52:17):
Peter Sellers? No.
David Nevin. Oh.
Peter Sellers? Yeah, it was a comedy.
Oh, OK. Yeah, and that will do it for
the better, known as. On to the crapshoot.
Onto the crapshoots. That was easy when we shipped

(52:40):
the toilet. Yeah, watch any any things this
week. One thing I watched this week I
I finished watching Dune. Oh, would you think Part 2?
I no, just I finished watching the first one again.
The first one, yeah. I forgot how much like I love

(53:03):
the end of the how. Much movie, that is.
There is a lot of movie. Well, here's the thing.
So I still have yet to see Part 2, but now I'm refreshed on one.
Yeah, you see. So now I want to go into two.
It it is a much more like cohesive story when when you
watch them close together. And I did that like a couple of

(53:24):
months back and like, yeah, yeah.
You see how much like Paul really is just playing these
fucking people for the whole fucking like story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, I thought about like
getting into the audio book and then I was like, I guess I sort
of like I started reading the book and like the names of

(53:47):
everything that I was coming across.
No, I I would never be able to hang on to that.
Fucking no. Yeah, yeah, in a movie I can do
it. But the whole ass book, Did I

(54:07):
watch anything else? I I don't think so.
I was just saying I remembered last week what we forgot to talk
about. I don't know if you watched it.
Fucking Daredevil. Oh yeah, yeah, yes.
Yeah, yeah, dude, that fucking bullseye fight scene goes hard.

(54:28):
It's. Not it's not as good as some of
the fight scenes from. Yeah, it's not the.
Hallway fight. Fuck.
Nothing will ever be, but holy fuck.
Is that brutal where you just like, flinging knives into him?
Like, yeah. You know what's sick, though?
It was like, that's not even thebest part of the show.
Yeah. Like I am loving the drama.
Yeah, yeah, like the legal like procedural part.

(54:50):
I thought they had the white Tiger story was really cool.
Yeah, there are only three episodes out.
Yes. OK, so that's so.
For us tomorrow. Spoiler SPOILER spoiler for
Daredevil that is not the Punisher that whacked White
Tiger. No, it's going to be some.
Yeah, yeah. It's going to be like it's.
Going to be one of those fuckingcops.

(55:11):
Oh, that had substance. Yeah, chew it back.
Yeah, they had, they showed the one cop who had the Punisher
tattoo on his neck. So yeah.
His wrist, I think. No, I thought he was like, turn
you and talk to somebody and youlike you saw it on his neck.
He was in the courtroom. He was sitting in the courtroom.
So yeah, I don't think, I don't think it was Frank Castle.
That did that, but I know like I'm pretty sure that John

(55:32):
Berenthal is in the show at somepoint, so he probably comes in
he. Probably takes the fall for the
whatever happens. He either takes the fall or he
comes back after somebody says it was him to like, take them
out. Yeah, yeah.
So I'm looking forward to that. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm really taking that show so far.
Yeah, it's really fun, Yeah. Fucking.

(55:55):
Yeah, fucking Vincent d'onofrio.So good.
Yeah, yeah, Autistic kingpin. God damn it, God damn it.
He's supposed to be on like theyshow him doing the thing with
his fingers. Like I really hate what the MCU

(56:21):
is doing with the Kingpin. And like some of the things he's
like, you know, dead straight serious and then like, and like
Hawkeye and then like Echo. It's more of like the comic book
Kingpin where he's like fightingpeople.
Like he's invulnerable. Like he gets fucking shot in the
eye and fucking an Echo. I didn't watch.

(56:43):
I haven't watched anything else.Nobody watched echo fucking.
Echo's a sick card and snap. Just going to say that.
Yeah, yeah. And then like, yeah, this one is
just like. Is it Vincent d'onofrio?
Yeah, they even mentioned in the, like, the first episode or
two like, oh, you know, you've had surgery and like, you even
see like the scar, like, what the fuck?

(57:03):
No, I don't like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, at one point, fucking KateBishop Hawkeye shoots him like
with an exploding arrow and like, he just, you know, brushes
it off like. I like the Daredevil Kingpin
where he's a human. He just like he's fucking huge
and he's strong as shit. And he, he was wearing that like

(57:25):
that bulletproof knife proof suit all the time.
So nothing could like hurt him that way.
Like that's a, that's a cool version because that brings him
down to Daredevil's level. So like they're physically like
matched. He's not a fucking mutant

(57:49):
superhero. Matt Statter saying Matt Murdock
should be disbarred after introducing the the mask in
evidence. Yeah.
I mean, I mean, clearly, what kind of world would we live in
if people misinterpreted the character of the Punisher?
I mean, that would never happen.No, definitely not.
Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, there's definitely,

(58:12):
certainly not police officers with the Punisher skull engraved
into their guns. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like one department got in trouble for having like the
Punisher stickers on the fuckingcars.
Yeah, it's like, that's not, that's not it.
He is not in law enforcement. He's a murderer.
Yeah, but yeah, I've been enjoying the fuck out of that.

(58:40):
I'm looking forward to the new episode tomorrow.
Yeah. I went and saw Novocaine the
other night. It doesn't look.
Good. Yeah, it was, it was all right.
It like, it tries to be like a romantic comedy, action, comedy,

(59:02):
like, but like, also very gory, like, action like.
It's just going for too many things at once.
Spread itself too. Thin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was just, I gave it
like AC Yeah, it was OK. It was entertaining, but, you
know, not, not great. We I watched finally watched my

(59:26):
first Miyazaki movie last night.Oh, really?
We watched Spirited Away. Great start.
It was a fucking good. Movie that's actually not going
to lie. And that's like top of the heap.
Yeah, yeah. Like it's, it's all downhill
from there, which is like a discredit to the rest of the
movies just because that one is just so fucking good.
No, that was really good. Man, Yeah, what are you going to

(59:50):
go for next? Amanda was saying Howell's
Moving Castle. She likes that one better than
Spirited Away. Really.
I'm going to watch that, yeah. Yeah, I mean it.
Yeah. It's just a different kind of
whimsy. Princess Mononoke is fucking
dank though. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I've heard that one's. A good one.
That one's acrony. All right, so maybe I'll check

(01:00:10):
that one out. Yeah, yeah, No, I I could
definitely, definitely go for another one.
I did enjoy that. Sam says Valley of the Wind,
Nausicaa, Valley of the Wind. That's a really good one too.
That's like a really cool adventure kind of story.
I like. You're not going to go wrong
with any of them, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:00:31):
What the hell? Hell.
Oh I watched the Electric State that Netflix like big budget
action movie. Titles vaguely familiar.
Yes, anime. Michelle.
Yeah, Michelle jumping in after a long fucking time.

(01:00:53):
Yeah, I know. I I don't, I don't really dig on
anime much, but that was a good movie.
I mean like artistically, like it's fucking beautiful.
Like story's beautiful. They're all like that.
Yeah, yeah. I can't argue with it.
It's it's, it is literally top notch storytelling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, but the electric State,
yeah, it's a good concept. I mean, like, it wasn't a

(01:01:15):
horrible movie. It's just like this is bad while
I was watching it. Really.
It is set in like a future wherelike there was like a robot
uprising and then like humans came up with a way to like
basically not like they're like like they're like the fucking
the things in ready Player 2, like the analog, you know, not

(01:01:37):
analog avatars basically is whatthey are all like robot avatars.
They humans come up with a way with that and that's how they
end up beating the robots like in this giant war.
And then, like the Millie Bobby Brown plays like this girl whose
brother like dies like during that whole thing.
And then like his robot shows upat her house one day and like,

(01:01:57):
it's like trying to tell her that it's her brother, like, and
they have to go find like, you know why that's happening.
And yeah, I mean, it was visually is cool.
Like this is just. Yeah, yeah.
It just is what it is. Yeah, Mr. Fucking Peanut.
Yeah, Mr. Peanut is one of the main characters.

(01:02:20):
Weird. Yeah, he's a robot.
Of course. Love, Mr. Peanut.
What have I done? What have I done?
Oh, I finally finished doctor sleep.
Oh, which is that the book? Yeah.
What do you think? I like it better than Shining,
really. Yeah, the Shining was good.
Did. You watch the movie yet?
No, not yet. Let me know what you think of

(01:02:41):
the movie. I will, but yeah, no, like it
was it was rad. It sucked though because like I
apparently used my allotted audio book hours on Spotify
which is such a crock of shit. Like I pay for this service.
Like why do I have limited hoursfor audiobooks?
Yeah, it's bullshit. Yeah, so I had to wait like, I

(01:03:04):
don't know, like 10 days or whatever from like my, my time
to like really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fucking twats. This is a $300 million movie
that does. It gets less done than a $12
million movie. Yeah.
That is an apartment descriptionof the electric state.
Yeah. I did move on to Blood Meridian.

(01:03:27):
How was that? That's fucking.
Brutal. Yeah, yeah.
What's it about? I know it's Cormac McCarthy and
like, that's generally never an an uplifting story.
No, it's not. It's it's basically what 1840s,
I think 1840s era and like guys heading into Mexico to like

(01:03:54):
claim land and shit like that. And just basically it's
expansionism and, and it's just something like a Wild West tale
and it is fucking crazy. God damn.
It's it's kind of scattered those like I'm not loving it,
but I'm not like I'm not hating it enough to not listen to it.

(01:04:15):
So like, maybe I just haven't gotten to like the moment.
I never read the Was this empty or not?
I never read the book so I don'treally have anything to judge it
against, but I really did not like No Country for Old Men the
movie. I didn't either, but I also
didn't know what I was getting myself into.

(01:04:36):
Yeah, I was trying a completely different movie than what I got.
Yeah, and I watched it just the once.
So I'm wondering if like, I go back for it again with like a
different set of expectations, would I be more OK with it?
Because I know like, I love the road.
The road was fucking sick. Also depressing.

(01:04:57):
Another just. Just uplifting.
Happy, fun smiley book. Yeah, I have that.
I have that book. I haven't read it yet but I
think I maybe got a couple of chapters in and moved on to
something else. But the fucking movie was great.
Yeah, yeah, that was a good movie.
What else? What else?

(01:05:19):
Yeah, I, I mean, that was a couple of movies I watched this
week, but really not much else. Yeah, there's a lot of TV on,
like a lot of good shows on. So I've been.
Oh, Invincible Season 3 just ended.
Yeah. Holy.
Fucking that is the best superhero thing ever fucking
written. I'm sorry dude.

(01:05:39):
It is good. It's fucking rad.
Yeah, I like just the fucking how, Like intensely like into
it. I am watching this cartoon.
Like, I don't know how much of the storyline you read, but it
was the story with Conquest, like when he first comes to
Earth. It's definitely way past what I
read. Yeah, I read like the first like

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8 trades. OK, yeah.
So I don't know how far into thecomics this is.
Yeah, it's probably well past where.
I was, yeah. It is fucking brutal.
Yeah. I mean, holy shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, man, Like as in
terms of like best superhero stuff that's ever been on TV,

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Like it's got to be Batman the Animated Series, like you.
Can't you? Can't.
I don't. I don't.
And justice. Is so weird, like that was
always the show I could just watch like throw it on and
watch. Whereas like I am waiting for
that new episode of Invincible. Like I'm sitting there watching

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it with like open eyes and just like mouth dropped, like just
watching Mark go through this horrible, fucking brutal shit.
Like it is, I like I, I fucking love that show.
Yeah, but, and I don't disagree that like it's, it's an adult
superhero show like, but I'm going to make the argument for

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Batman the Animated Series. Anybody can watch it and it's so
good for everybody involved. That is true.
Like that is universal. You can't show Invincible to
kids. No, Yeah, no, I'm trying not to
spoil it. Like, the shit that happens to
Eve is pretty fucking brutal too.
Oh, really? Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, now I'll eventually get
back into it. Like I I watched the first
season and I loved it because I loved the comic.
But then I just like, it was like, oh, season 2 and I was
like, Oh yeah, I got other shit I need to be doing.
No, it gets exponentially betterI think every fucking year,
really. Yeah.
Like Season 1 was good but it was just a very basic like kind

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of intro starter and like season2 really digs into the story
more and like season 3 has just been a brutal fucking assault
like. No, Jesus.
Yeah like multiple people dying just like brutal fucking yeah I
I am so in on that show. I like I really hope that they I
I know they're like on a quicker, like production

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schedule, so it's not going to be like 2 years.
Invincible W Kirkman Yeah, I, I.And who did the the art at the
beginning at least? Was it Ryan Otley?
Yes, yeah, I believe so. Yeah.
I'm loving the hell out of that.I feel like something else just

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ended or is ending. Yeah, maybe I was thinking of
Invincible I. Don't know, I keep forgetting to
watch new episodes of The Pit. Of what?
The Pit. Oh, the pit.
I'm like the bit. What's the?
No, not the bit. Not the bit, the pit.
I'm an episode behind on Matlock.

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Yeah, I don't think I watched itthis week.
Yeah, I've watched the newest one.
I had a busy weekend. Yeah, I'm trying to remember
where I left off on that. I'm getting ready to give Yellow
jackets the gong. Really.
Yeah, I don't know, like I was watching it today or was it
today or you asked whenever I was watching it, Just like why

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the fuck am I still watching this show?
Really. Yeah.
This is not good, I heard. It was awesome when it first
came out. It was then it's just yeah,
diminishing returns has been fucking garbage.
Yeah, I think me and Monique aregoing to start watching The
Righteous Gemstones. That came back.

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Tomorrow. Yeah.
No, I mean like we're going to start watching it tomorrow.
Oh God, it's a really good show.Well, she's been walking around
the house singing the fucking misbehaving song because it's in
all the fucking Tik Toks that she watches.
So I'm like, I got to do this. I got to watch this again.
Walton Goggins is great in that fucking show.
Walton Goggins is amazing in everything that he's in, bar

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none. Speaking of Walton Goggins, he's
in, you know, the new season of White Lotus and there's a
fucking scene with him and Sam Rockwell in last night's episode
that is just fucking wild. It's like a, it's like a 4
minute monologue of like him andSam Rockwell are like, you get
that they're old buddies, like they used to be like old

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partying buddies and like they're into something illegal.
I don't know if it's like guns or whatever, but like he
definitely brings him a gun. Yeah, Where do you know Walton?
Goggins from another fucking yeah.
Cultural like, you know, litmus test, but like they're talking
and he's like, you know, he's like, you know, you want to
drink and like Sam Rockwell's like, you know, I actually been
sober for like 10 months and, and you know, they're there's

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talking. He's like, holy shit.
Like, you know what happened? He's like, well, you know, I had
this religious experience. I moved here and he's like, he's
talking. He starts talking, goes into
this monologue about like how hegot into fucking lady boys.
And then like he while he was fucking a lady boy, he realized
he wanted to be the lady boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like how he would like, he just goes on about how you would

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hire guys to fuck him, like 3 or4 guys in the night.
And like, I was just like, holy fucking crap.
He's like, yeah, yeah. Is that like the bar for that
show? It's like, that's kind of weird.
Shit intense for that show. I mean for in general, but like
that was one of the more memorable.
Scenes because I haven't seen it.

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I know a lot of people rave about it, but.
It's a good show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's on like season 4 now. Season 3.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Severance is another one.
Why? Why am I watching this show?
Severance. Which one is that?

(01:11:52):
The one on Apple TV that everybody's raving about.
Ben Stiller like created. It Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's like, you know. The one that Christopher Walken
can't watch because he doesn't have any smart devices.
Yeah, Yep, that's the one. Yeah, Season 1 was good.

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The second season is just like II'm ready to again.
I'm warming up the gong like I'mready to fucking swing.
God damn. Yeah.
What's coming out that we're excited about?
Nothing. Pretty much nothing.
I saw a couple of horror movies coming out that looked good and

(01:12:33):
I just don't remember them rightnow.
Yep, Nope. It's gone.
Yeah. It can't be that important.
Yeah. Yeah.
Frankenstein. That's what October.
Yeah, I think so. Something like that.
We get a while. Yeah, November.
Oh fuck you. I want that movie now.

(01:12:55):
I want that movie last year. I don't know, that might be a
good place to call it. I think so, yeah.
Yeah, I think so. I know they're working on the
new monster verse movie. They've announced a couple of
people. Whatever.
The last couple of Godzilla X Kong New Empire was awesome.

(01:13:19):
As long as they can keep that cool, fun vibe up.
Yeah, Dan Stevens is going to beback for that one.
They Yeah, yeah. I forget who else they said is
in it. Oh, Sam.
Yeah, Fantastic Four looks like it's going to be awesome.
Yeah, I forgot about that. I am very much looking forward
to that. Yeah, I'm not usually one to
look forward to anything Fantastic Four or superhero ish,

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but that looks fun and different.
Yeah, which is really all I want.
Just give me fun. Give me different.
Stop giving me the same shit over and over again.
Yeah, that's why I like the Captain America.
Brave New World was a political thriller.
Yeah. What I don't know the guest too

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The guest? I don't know if I saw the guest.
I don't. I don't know.
Anyway, anyway, where are we going to be?
Possibly at Retro Nerd Fest in acouple of weeks.
I'm still waiting on confirmation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, I, I think we're good.

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If we are not there for some reason, you are going to be able
to find us at Saratoga Comic Conrapidly coming up May 3rd and
4th at the Saratoga City Center.Rapidly coming.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to be.

(01:14:46):
We got a panel with some actors.We have a Saturday nights 18 and
up trivia panel. It's.
Going to be so good. It is going to be a barn burner.
The majority of us don't have todrive anywhere afterwards.
Yeah, it's going to be wild after that.

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You'll find us somewhere. Yeah, it's a long summer.
We'll be in Saratoga again. We're we're going.
To be in Tampa Bay. I'm just too lazy to do the
plugs I. See that?
Yeah. Yeah, no, try that again.
August 2nd and 3rd will be at Mid Hudson Comic Con in

(01:15:33):
Poughkeepsie. That same weekend, I will be at
Tampa Bay Comic Con in Tampa Baydoing some hosting there.
I'm not going to be burping on the panel.
Mike's one there. We'll see how it goes.
Yeah. And then we're back at Saratoga
in November. We might have stuff popping up

(01:15:54):
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We'll see. Yeah.
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