Ep. 199 - Kung Fu Frightening - Big Trouble in Little China

We're taking a break from scary monsters this week and going with more action-adventure-y monsters as Nick and Chris are talking John Carpenter's 1986 film Big Trouble in Little China. Starring Kurt Russell.

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Episode Transcript

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Hey everybody, welcome to big dumb monsters.
I'm Nick. And I'm Chris.
And this week we talk about an absolute classic masterpiece
piece of cinema. Big trouble in Little China.
Yeah, yeah. So good.
This one's fun. We're, we're, we're, we're
spoiling ourselves lately. I feel like we've had a lot of
good movies. We've got a couple of good

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movies coming up. We.
Don't always have to watch garbage.
Yeah, but. There's a lot of garbage monster
movies, but like, this ain't oneof them.
No, this is this is just fun. It's awesome.
Yeah. Like it was one of those
situations where we we like we tried to think of anything to
criticize this movie on and and have a hard time doing.
It. Yeah, yeah.

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Whatever. It's our show.
We can do whatever. We want exactly.
Yeah, get your own show if it's a problem for you.
Yeah, but anyway, just listen tous fall all over ourselves
praising this movie up and down on this week's episode of Big
Dumb Monsters. Enjoy the show.

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This is podcasting, folks. Yeah, hey.
Hey, we got it back. Yeah, baby.
All right. We're good.
Are we? We are.
I mean, I mean, technically we're working mentally.

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Yeah, no, I'm, I'm Shotsky's dog.
Open that can of worms. Yeah, well folks, This is why
you should have a producer on these type of things.
No. Well.
But we will say he will be back next week.
Or maybe we hire Monique to takehis job.

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I'm not opposed. She'll be here.
All right. Anyway, as we were saying, well
as we were saying, everything sucks but that's weird.
Luckily for us, the movie we picked this week Movie has
sound. Is.

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Get your version. There we go.
My God, man. It's been a fucking day.
Yeah. I'm still not all the way on,
Mike. You never are.
Look, I'm looking. Look, we're we're on the air
now. It's fine.
Yeah, the movie is not playing, but there it goes.

(03:44):
Yeah. We don't have sound.
We're watching Big trouble in Little China, is what we're
trying to say, and we're not getting to it.
Hey, this week we watched Big Trouble in little China there.
We go. A John Carpenter masterpiece.
It is no joke. Probably been about 15, probably
even closer to 20 years since I've seen this movie.

(04:05):
That's absurd. Yeah.
I could never. I could never.
It was one of those like, I, I, I, I it was always on all the
time when I was a kid. So I've seen it like hundreds of
times. Oh, yeah.
And I just needed to put it awayfor a while.
And then like I just like when Iwas ready to watch it again, I
just never made the opportunity and like it just kept me longer
and longer and longer. Did you have a sweet reunion?

(04:27):
So sitting down yesterday to watch this, Yeah, I actually had
to keep going back because anytime I got distracted, I'm
like, no, like, I got a fucking like, focus on the fucking
movie. Yeah, Not you know.
I I I am telling you right now, this has got to be rated on A2
movie scale. OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It has to be.
All right, Yeah, this is a fucking delight.

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Yeah. It's so good, it's so fun.
It's got like so much of what you want in a in like a fucking
movie in an action movie, like it's just a big you only do you
have like cool action. You have awesome like fight
scenes with the other two, like warring, like great characters,
great characters. You have awesome monsters like
with makeup and fucking like Mystic shit going on.

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Like it's fucking awesome. It's so 80s.
It's so unbelievably 80s. Oh, you're you're kidding me.
The movie with the guy in moccasin boots in his 80s?
What? They're not moccasins, they're
just high. They're high brown leather boots
OK. Our ratings will be 145% higher

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because of tariffs. Terrible.
Yeah, anyway, yeah, now that everything seems to be working.
I love this movie so much and I have loved this movie since the
day I saw it. Yeah, like I have never waned

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from being like this movie ruleslike every time that it is on, I
was watching it. Yeah, it didn't matter.
This was on HBOA lot and it was not it wasn't R rated.
So it was on during the day. Yeah, it's PG13.
Yeah. And it I mean, aside from that,
it would be on like basic TV. It was.
On yeah, it was on like TNT all the time.

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Saturday afternoons and all thatshit.
It is. It is a fucking delight.
Like you have Kurt Russell at his Kurt Russelliest.
Like just mullet fucking yeah. He's got like that hemp fucking
pullover on for like the first half of the movie.
Possibly moccasin boots. They're not moccasins.

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I don't know they button really low.
Yeah, yes, Arthur is still working night shifts at the
Stewarts in Vermont. Yeah.
And not the Stewart's we usuallytalk about.
No Stewart's Bar and Grill, where they have pole Night on
Monday. So, you know, fucking yeah.

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There's art. Yep.
Anywho, beer. Beer.
We have a button for that, but I'm.
It's all the way back there. Yeah.
I there is so much nostalgia attached to this movie.
Yeah. I'm sure that's bumping it up
for me too. And like in my opinion.
It is, but like it's also just afun fucking movie.

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Like you don't have to be like heavily invested in what's
really going on, but like you get some of the jokes you'll
watch cool action, like there's always something cool happening
on screen and it it's either something really like big or
something like even the smaller stuff is really cool, like shot

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setups or little jokes or or things like that.
Like, it's just, there's always something to grab you and keep
your attention if you're just coming in, you know, like, fuck.
And it's a John Carpenter joint,so the music is off the hook.
Yeah, I used one of the one of his songs for our promo post on

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Instagram. Oh really?
There's the Pork Chop Express song, actually.
Oh, OK. Yeah, but yeah, I know, like,
everything about this movie fires on all cylinders.
Like, not only does, you know, like we saw all these, you know,
story elements kind of coming together, really making it an
awesome movie. You have awesome actors.
You know, not only do you have Kurt Russell, you have fucking
like, these, you know, classic like Chinese actors like James

(08:27):
Ong. What's the other fucking guy?
Victor Wong. Victor Wong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking James Hong playing a 7
foot, you know, ancient wizard. Like yeah, I know, with gold
plated coke fingernails. David Lopan.

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I'm Dave Lopan. Sounds like the wussiest name,
yeah. David.
Really. Yeah.
Yeah. Not even a Dave Davey boy Davey.
Davey Lopan. Olive loaf pan.
Yeah, that was the joke last night.
His skin looks like an olive loaf.
The makeup is awesome, like you have monsters, the old man and

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the like. The monsters you have like the
bolder looking thing. You have like the beast man
looking thing. Oh yeah, and his, his like full
on lopan, like ancient deity like makeup.
Yeah, so cool. It was love that he had a nail
going through his hat. Yeah.

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Yes, the weird spy meatball. It looked like a beholder from
Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah, a less cool beholder.
Yeah, 'cause he had an eye in his mouth.
Yeah, instead of rows and rows of teeth and an anti magic
field. And yeah, dreadlocks with eyes,
man. I'm honestly trying to think of

(10:00):
things I can criticize. Nope.
Not a goddamn thing. Not a fucking thing.
No, don't even try. Like I'm struggling.
I'm trying to be critical here. Don't you dare make me do that.
I know that that's my job and that's what I'm supposed to do.
I didn't even do the one star review segment for this 'cause I
couldn't stomach it. Because fuck that.

(10:22):
Fuck you if you think this is a one star movie.
You can eat my whole ass. Yeah, and no universe is this
one star, unless you're just trying to be contrarian.
Yeah, it was a lot of like, justlike, yeah, just contrarianism.
Like, is it? It's a, it's a fucking beloved

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movie. Like who doesn't love this
fucking movie? Like, OK, there, I'm sure there
are people who are indifferent to this movie.
Yeah. Who actively hates this fucking
movie? I'm sure like you, you're going
to get somebody like, who only sees movies at the spectrum,
like, you know, who thinks this is the worst kind of drivel ever

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made, you know? I only watch foreign films
without the subtitles in the backroom of the yogurt Hut if.
You can't handle that. Then this is going to work out.
The effects are very 80s. Yeah, they are, But they're not
bad 80s. They're awesome. 80s because if

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they're from the 80s. For like the time I mean like
you can go to movies up into the90s that have way shittier
effects than this fucking. For sure.
I mean the fucking, the, the, those like the, you know, the
non Scooby CGI characters in Scooby-doo were worse than the
fucking you know, you know, thenthen it's not CGI, but whatever

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they used to do the beholder thing like.
The beholder in this, yeah, yeah, that was a puppet.
Yeah. But like, they had to shoot it
probably against something and then like remove that background
and then put that, yeah. Yeah, probably.
But I don't care. I don't care.
I guess like. I guess if I had to pick

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something like the like the gangwar stuff is like really
shoehorned in and also not that great because it just it happens
and it's just a reason to get from one thing to the next.
Yeah, I kind of throw in some big battles every now and again
in the movie. Yeah, but.
They're cool, but they're rats. Yeah, I don't care the.

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Scene like coming up where they pull into the fucking alley and
like, they just happened across.Like, what the fuck is this?
It's badass. Yeah.
Like it's a funeral. And then like, wait a minute,
like, what are these guys doing?Like, like, oh, this is about to
be a fucking gang war. Like, yeah, it's.
It's just awesome. I want to criticize this, but
it's fun. Yeah, I, you know what?

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If I had, if I really, really had to, like, critique one thing
they should have given, what's his name?
Dennis Dunn yes, they should have given him more, not screen
time 'cause he got plenty of screen time, but like I guess
importance on the screen time. What's his name?
I'm trying to is. It Wang Chi.

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Yeah, yeah, OK. Wang Chi.
They should have made it more important on screen.
I think, yeah, 'cause he's the hero of the movie.
Yeah. But yeah, Kurt Russell is the
star. So we're constantly following
Kurt Russell where it's. Yeah, yeah.
They could have balanced it out a little bit more between the
two of them, yeah, but again. There should have been sequels.
There's your criticism. No, I disagree because it would

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have been diminishing returns every fucking time now.
Maybe, maybe not. They had a comic book.
Read the comic book. I do want to check that out.
Yeah, it was good. I had the first like 2 issues I
think and I I liked it. That was at the same like around
the same time they were doing the Escape from New York comic
too. Yeah, yeah, I watching this

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yesterday, really did not realize how much Chris Pratt
bases like particularly Star Lord on fucking Kurt Russell.
Specifically in this movie too. Really.
Yeah, I I think so. 'Cause he's just blowhard John
Wayne in this movie. Which is kind of fucking star

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Lord. Yeah, I guess so.
I mean, I mean, I mean, before we even putting that together,
like him playing his father in the second movie, like, is
perfect because, like, you know,it fits in with the vibe.
It fits in with the era. But like, knowing like, again,
just watching him and realizing like, oh, that's just what Chris

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Pratt's doing for, for fucking Peter Quill.
Yeah. Like he's perfect to cast him as
Peter Quill's father, like. Oh God.
He's like the, the kind of like obnoxious guy, but you still
like him. You know, he's always like not
serious. He's kind of schlubby, but you,
you still, you know, want to root for him.

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Yeah, oh shit. Boots, boots, Boots bought Mead,
and he's going to bring it for Saturday.
Yes, Fuck yeah. Sweet.
Thanks brother. Yeah, oh, moderate kerfuffle in
Little Italy. Yeah, kind of serious.
Dust up in the Bower. Great brouhaha, the Bowery.

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There we go. Oh Boots, we are never going to
be stuck with you. We like you.
Yeah, you're stuck with us. That's right, fucking Rorschach
style. You trapped in here with me.

(15:50):
Oh, thanks for subscribing againbud.
I let's see the moccasin boots. I'm sorry, those are fucking
moccasin boots, right buddy? Just cause their suede doesn't
make the moccasins. No, because they button down to
his feet is what makes the moccasins.

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Moccasins are just like slippersdog.
Like what are you talking about?You've never seen those like
Native American boots that like go like usually have the frills
on them like fucking they they button like all the way down.
You mean? Boots.
Yeah, Moccasin boots. I think we're going to stop
talking about the movie and justdiscuss Boots and.

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And not you, boots. No, we're talking about Kurt
Russell's boots. Yes, please lay on my foot so
you can bark at me later when I try to move an inch.
I don't know. Those buttons look a little
medalliony. I don't like.
I fucking hate you. You're not the first person to

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say that. Weird.
God damn. No, for real.
This movie is it's awesome. It's so important to me like
like beyond like I love this movie beyond like how funny it
is, how great the action is. You know, it's it's another Kurt

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Russell, John Carpenter joint and they just work so well
together. Like this movie is like
essential for me because like somuch of what I like is in this
movie and because of this movie.Yeah, this came out in 1986.
So I think I was in second gradewhen this came out.
And it was like one of those movies were like all the, you

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know, kids in the playground, like fucking seen this movie
yet. Like, we're all talking about
it. Like it?
Flopped like a bastard too. We all I can, you know, if
you're polling second graders atthe time fucking we all loved
it. Yeah, I know.
It was like, it is a cornerstoneof, like, my, like, movie
viewing as a kid. Like, yeah, it's just I've seen

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it hundreds and hundreds of times.
And it never gets old. Yeah, I I really needed that
break though for like, I didn't need to be that long.
Yeah, but like having stepped away for a long ass time.
I'm good for at least once a year I watch.
This Oh, I'm definitely watchingthis again, like soon.
Yeah, this might actually be a go to sleep movie.

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No DJ says hydrate. All right, all right, don't mind
if I do. Oh, Doug Arthur is commenting on
our post. Oh yeah.
What's up, Doug? Oh, he just wooted.
Yep, It is it. It's wootable.
It's a wootable. Movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, it's just so fun.

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It's so fun. It's and unique.
Yeah, because you can't say likethis is biting off of this like
it's not I I can't. It wears its inspirations on its
sleeve for sure, but like nothing, I don't think really
combined all of this. You know, like, yes, there was a
lot of your like Kung Fu comedy movies like this takes

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inspiration from that, but it's not strictly a Kung Fu comedy.
There's, you know, all the, the mysticism and stuff like that in
it and like the idea of Kurt Russell being the like, lovable
goof. He's the sidekick in this movie.
Yeah. And it's so cool that, like,

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he's the sidekick, but he's yourstar.
Like nobody ever really thinks about it that way.
That is pretty crazy when you think about it, yeah.
He's the doofus that doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
Where Dennis Dunn is is like thehero.
Yeah. Yeah, he's, you know, fighting
for the the girl he's loved his entire life.

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Yeah, whereas Kurt Russell's just trying to bang this chick.
Yeah, he he stumbles into greatness is what he does.
Yeah, huh. Yeah, I didn't even think about
that. Yeah.
Oh, you're a fucking Ali Young too.
Oh, that guy. Yeah, yeah, the fucking

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henchiest motherfucker that everhench he.
Is the hench. Yeah, look, hey, shut the fuck
up about that, man, all right? Yeah, we don't know anything
about. That look, just because Arthur's
not here and the Pope died, there's no, there's no
correlation at all. I'm not saying Art is JD Vance,

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but look, have you ever seen thetwo of them together?
I haven't. I'll.
I'm just saying he's looked verylongingly at that couch.
Couch fucker. If we mentioned this movie's

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fucking awesome, it's so good. All right, You ready to rate it?
Yeah, let's. Do it.
It's a 10. This movie's a fucking 10 if
we're if. We're talking nostalgia.
If we're talking, you know, we're doing we're doing the two
movie scale. Yeah, yeah.
It's a fucking 10. Like, you know, again, like this
is like in the in the pantheon of action movies that founded,

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you know, the the movie lover that I am today.
Yeah, This is there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's a, it's a fucking 10 nostalgia, just eightiesness of
it. Like it's just it's.
Just there's greatness here. I I cannot believe.
We haven't done this on Defenestration Hour yet.
Well, here's your chance. To do it again, I guess.
Yeah. Oh.

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Christ, pardon me. Yeah.
Wouldn't nap on that couch. But if we have to do like, OK,
if I have to bring it into reality, yeah, movie.

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Movie, ass movie. Even that I'm not going that
low. I'm not going that low because
like it's fucking John Carpenter, who is a legendary
director. This is arguably, you can
arguably say this is his best movie if we want to go all of
his movies, like, I mean The Thing, all right?
Yeah, OK. All right, Let's not talk about
The Thing. Let's forget about that for this

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argument, 'cause I'm trying to win this argument, God damn it.
But I mean, it's it's at least in the top three.
Of John Carpenter movies. Yeah, yeah, Halloween the thing.
Fuck, I forgot he did Halloween.Yeah, it's it's definitely top.

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4. 'Cause they live is.
Yeah. In terms of influence, though,
what do you think has bigger influence?
This or they live? I think they live.
I don't know. I don't know.
Yeah, maybe they're like neck and neck.
I mean you literally. Have a a modern, you know,
action star aping Kurt Russell in a, you know, in one of the

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biggest movie trilogies of the past.
Fucking that is true. You know. 30-40 years.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it like inin the in the overall scope of
the movies, this is probably more influential the fucking
street fight scene and they live.

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Like even. Like South Park ripped that off,
yeah. Yeah.
You have. I mean, if we're going pop
culture influence, you do have that low pan meme from like
COVID times with like me. After I drink flashlight, I
drink. I drink bleach.
Stick a flashlight on my ass like a picture of Lopan with the

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glowing eyes and mouth. Yeah, oh man.
And you have the. The three storms too, like
fucking everybody knew these characters when I was a kid too.
Yeah shit. We mean we haven't even
mentioned these 3 mother fuckersuntil right now and they're like
yeah. That dude.
You know, expanding and then blowing up like because he was

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mad. Oh, Christ.
OK, OK, OK, so I have to put this out like a real ass movie
scale. It's an 8 all right.
All right. That was.
I'm trying not to go that high a. 7-5 maybe, yeah.

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I'll, I'll, I'll I can do 75. Let's let's let's settle on A-75
on this OK, movie ass movie. If we're trying to be movie
snobby about it and you know, there's the cinema, fine, it's a
75, but all day fucking 10, yeah.
It's a 10 in my heart. Yeah.
Christ. Yeah.

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It's just unreal how fun this movie is.
Yeah. And that's, like, what a lot of
this boils down to because, like, it is cheesy and tacky on
purpose. Yeah.
It is a nod to those, like, 70s Kung Fu movies that like, yeah,
like this kind of generation allfucking identified you and, you
know, grew up with. Yeah, it's a love.
Letter to everything that's likein the influence here, but while

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also. Like doing the modern style
really well too. The modern 80s action.
Yeah, a poo poo platter. Yeah, yeah.
Who wanted the poo poo platter? Oh my God, yeah.
Living, they live. Yeah, are.
You ready for some trivia on this movie?

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Yeah, let's do some. Trivia We have a button.
We do have a button. Have to bother you with trivia?

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OK, John Carpenter envisioned the movie as an inverse of
traditional scenarios in action films, with a Caucasian
protagonist helped by a minoritysidekick.
Jack Burton, despite his bravado, is constantly portrayed
as a rather bumbling in one fight sequence, even knocks
himself out unconscious before the fight begins.

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Wang Chi, on the other hand, is constantly betrayed as he highly
skilled and competent. Which?
Goes back to exactly what I was saying.
Like the goofy sidekick is you're like star of this fucking
movie. Yeah.
Yeah. Fucking the audio on the on the
bumper I guess is a little loud.I don't know who fucking knows
at this point. Look, we have sound.

(26:51):
I don't know if you're here in the beginning.
Let's just be happy we have sound yeah.
Oh, that mic is? Probably jacked up from.
I didn't touch anything. No, Yeah, I don't know.
It'll be OK. Oh, I also.
Did like turn a bunch of shit on, Like hold on, let me make
sure we're not. What are you doing?
I want to make sure we're. Not like double and like

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layering our sound. You know, like double and
tripling. Oh.
Does it sound like we're doubled, tripled, or echoey?
Do we sound like a late? Era Beatles album.
No, we're good. We're.
Good. Does it sound like Phil Spector
is producing us? That was not a great Ramones
album. Jackie Chan was John Carpenter's

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first choice to play Wang Chi, but producer Lawrence Gordon was
highly against it, fearing Chan's English wasn't good
enough after seeing his performances in Battle Creek,
Brawl and The Protector. But Carpenter wanted Chan after
the success of Police Story, which is a dope fucking movie.
Chan declined and Dennis Dunn was cast instead.
I think that's the better spot, yeah.

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I don't know like. I like, I like Dennis Dunn.
He he did a fucking great job inthis.
Yeah, yeah. For.
Sure, Jackie Chan. Like, as good as Jackie Chan is
at what Jackie Chan does, he's not a great actor.
Yeah, let's. Just say how am I trying to put
this? It's as if his English is an
opponent of his in martial arts.Let's just say like and it's

(28:22):
just beat the fuck up. Yeah.
Shit. And yeah, you know what?
Madison had her. We are pretty fucking fine.
That's right. Kurt Russell suffered a bad case
of the flu during the scene justafter the brothel, so the sweat
on his body is real, caused by the fever.

(28:44):
Oh. Jesus.
Yeah, it's probably not a great sign when you get a fever after
being in a whore house, but. Go on without me.
I got the whore fever. I'm not going to make it, boys.

(29:09):
I got the. Whore fever.
What the? Fuck.
Christ. Derailment.
You know the. Whore fever vaccine causes I'm

(29:33):
fine. Are you sure it's more for the?
For the film's many fight scenes, John Carpenter worked
with martial arts choreographer James Lew, who planned every

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scene in detail. Carpenter stated.
I used every cheap gag, trampolines, wires, reverse
movements and upside down sets. It was it was much like
photographing a dance. Which?
Good. Like he's he was branching out
'cause like what? What had he done like similar to
this before this, right? Like with like really.

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Yeah, I'm trying to think like before.
They seem to be known for Halloween and what else?
Like Capri 86, Prince of Darkness is like 87.
Was that? Yeah.
I think that was a little later,yeah.
Halloween, the thing. Yeah.
Because that was what, 8280? One the same year as No.

(30:40):
It was 80 or 81 same year as Empire I think it was. 80
Because that's why it didn't. Do so hot in the theatre.
I think that was 80. Yeah.
RFK cut funding into horror fever.
Gross The. Thing and.
Christine are both before this. OK.

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So, yeah, he's got a name for horror at this point.
And then like to do a big, you know, action movie, a Kung Fu
movie, kind of, you know, Yeah, I like, I like the genre.
Switch. Yep.
I mean you. Say what you want about John
Carpenter, he wasn't afraid to do what, like, excited him.
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Let's see here. The interior of Egg Chen's

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garage office is Fire Station 23, the same building used as
the business interior for the Ghostbusters.
Oh, alright. Yeah.
I don't know how true this is, but it's on IMDb, so it must be
true, right? Kurt Russell turned down the
lead role of Connor McLeod in Highlander to appear in this

(31:46):
film. Both movies were made and
released by 20th Century Fox. I don't want that.
I I don't want I I don't want Kurt Russell in that role.
Yeah. No, that's not a Kurt Russell
role. No, I don't.
'Cause. He wouldn't play him as
Scottish. He'd just be Kurt Russell.

(32:06):
I'm Scottish. Unless he had.
A good Scottish accent, but maybe?
Escape from New York is also before this.
Yeah. Yeah.
So he's known for a little bit of action.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, his his first movie was anaction movie.
Well, was it? Was it?
Oh, wasn't it a? Escape from precinct. 13 yeah.
Or attack on precinct 13. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Which is, yeah, a zombie movie

(32:28):
with, you know, Mexicans insteadof zombies.
I'm not wrong. Oh shit, Kurt Russell had to
learn how to drive the semi truck for a few shots in the
film. He jokes that he was terrified
of hurting someone. John Carpenter jokes he was more
concerned with the actor breaking the truck.

(32:50):
Let's see, the lipstick coming off Kim Cattrall and onto Kurt
Russell wasn't a planned joke, but something that improvised
when they saw the makeup used onthe actress came off so easily.
That is pretty. Hilarious that scene.
Fucking love it. Carpenter.
Notes that this is just another example of how certain actors
won't let themselves look like afool, and why Russell was such a
perfect choice for the role of Jack Burton.

(33:12):
Yeah, 'cause he was like, he's playing a dumb guy, and Kurt
Russell knows that he's a dumb guy, but he needs fucking Jack
Burton to not know that he's dumb.
Yeah, he needs. To think he's the hero like.
Yeah, it's great. It's so good.
Yeah. And our last?
Little piece of trivia fact here.
Body count 46. Oh yeah.

(33:34):
Those dudes are dropping like flies in the street.
Yeah, for sure. That's it.
That's all the trivia, Yes. Like I said, I assault on
percent 13, yes. Assault on Precinct 13.
My bad. Yeah, like I said, I couldn't.

(33:55):
I couldn't stomach the idea of putting one star reviews in this
movie. Yeah, I know we're.
Good. It doesn't doesn't fit.
It is just a fucking awesome movie, Yeah.
But it's time for better known as we're.
Going to move on to that. I know you.

(34:18):
I knew. I knew you.
I knew. I knew.
All right, we are going well. We're going to start off with
John Carpenter, our director, but we have talked about him
several times at this point at least.
Twice before, Yeah, because we. Did the thing, we did the thing
and we. Did they live?
You're right, yeah. He's John Carpenter.

(34:41):
You know John Carpenter. He's the director of Halloween.
We've mentioned you still have something coming.
Halloween comes around. They're.
Not making another Halloween movie, are they?
I don't know. I don't like that.

(35:03):
That. That looks like a fan film.
Yeah, maybe it's a. Fan.
Let's hope it's a fan film. Who the fuck is?
Timetrius Thompson, the so-called director of that,
Yeah. No, that's got to be all.
Just fucking yeah. Honestly, can it be worse than
Halloween Ends? Not by much.

(35:24):
Yeah, yeah. Sam.
No, there is. There is never a bad time to
talk about John Carpenter. Yeah, we've talked They Live,
which is another fucking masterpiece.
There's a lot of Halloween stuffin here.

(35:44):
He directed the erect, the original, and oh, you did
screenplay for that? It's probably based on his
screenplay, the remake. Oh, the fog.
Yeah, same. With assault on precinct 13 yeah
Michael versus G oh it's short again like why are is all these
fan films in his IMDb because he.
He's the creator of the character, yeah.

(36:07):
Oh. We've done 3 movies, 'cause we
did Ghost of Mars we did. That's right.
Holy shit, what a fucking. Turd that was Ghost of Mars.
2001 Escape from LA 1996 I like that.
Movie a lot and seeing that at the.
Cinema 10, it's like. Yeah, it's not good, but it's

(36:28):
another one that's like fun. Yeah, yeah.
You know it's it's. Not, not the.
Cinema, The Cinema 12 at Crossgates, yeah.
It's, yeah. It's like the goofy little
brother of Escape from New York.Yeah.
Characters again, he did. I'm like he directed Halloween
5. They Live was 1988.

(36:50):
Prince of Darkness 87. Black Black Moon Rising 86.
He wrote Uncredited writer for Halloween 3.
Yeah, well, he also. Directed it.
I didn't realize, he directed. It yeah, he directed.
The first three, OK, I'm pretty sure all.

(37:11):
Right, we're going to move on. Up next, Kim Cattrall.
Why is fucking, what's his name not here?
Oh, because I just fucking closed him instead of John
Carpenter. Oh.
Oh, Kurt Russell, Yeah. That's how we do it.
Yep, there we go. Up next is Kurt Russell, who we

(37:36):
have also talked about before. He is in the thing.
Of course he is McCready, yeah. I.
Mean another guy like he's Kurt Russell you know him you have
you have seen at least like 10 Kurt Russell movies in your life
if you by. Accident, you can see 10 Kurt
Russell movies. Yeah, yeah.
Like, you know who Kurt Russell is?

(37:58):
Wyatt fucking. Earp, that's who he is.
Why? Yeah, exactly.
He's down by the lake walking onwater if you're looking for him.
Yeah. What would he be most known for?
God. The thing obviously the most no.
Captain Ron, obviously. Yes, Captain.

(38:18):
Ron. It's got to be Wyatt Earp.
The Dexter Ryan trilogy of films.
Fell and they. Were watching her for us yeah I
mean it's probably tombstone I mean like a lot of people know
that movie because it's amazing you.
Meant to say perfect. Yeah, it's perfect.

(38:39):
Yeah. Yeah.
That's it. Yeah.
I mean, he was, he got a lot more like modern recognition for
Hateful 8. I didn't love it.
He. Was recently in the Monarch
Legacy of Monsters show on AppleTV.

(39:00):
He wasn't a couple of the Fast and Furious movies.
Unfortunately, he wasn't Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which
is an awesome, awesome movie that was really good.
Yeah. We mentioned earlier Guardians
of the Galaxy Volume 2 where he he's really good at that movie.
Tomahawk. Tomahawk was gruesome, yeah.

(39:23):
The Hateful 8, of course, a Tarantino joint, and Death
Proof, another Tarantino joint, which was part of the grindhouse
package. He was in the Poseidon Adventure
remake. He was like the Gene Hackman
character. He was sky high in 2005.

(39:43):
I remember. I never saw it, but like, I know
a lot of people, like, really love that movie.
Yeah, it was OK. Miracle was only in 2004.
Why do I feels like? I feel like that was the 90s.
I thought it was like newer. Than that oh.
Really. Yeah.
Shit, that's a good movie too. It's so good.

(40:04):
He. Actually was pretty good in
those Netflix Santa Claus movies.
Oh, I never saw. Those yeah.
I mean, he's Kurt Russell. He's going to be good in
anything. He's yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was in 3000 Miles to Graceland in 2001.
There's him and Nicholas Cage, right?
I think. No, Kevin Costner, Kevin.
Costner That's right where they're like bank robbing Elvi.

(40:30):
Yeah. Though there's I just recently
found out today that there's an extended ending to this movie.
All right. I would like to see that.
Yeah, he had a really good run of movies again.
He's fucking Kurt Russell. You have Soldier in 1998 which

(40:53):
is a set in the same universe asBlade Runner, Breakdown 97,
Escape from LA 96, Executive Decision, Excuse me with Steven
Segal in 1996, Stargate 1994. He did the voice of Elvis in
fucking Forrest Gump in 94. I didn't realize that in no

(41:15):
universe should Tombstone have alower rating than Forrest Gump,
but somehow it does. You hate.
Forrest Gump I don't hate. It, I mean, it's it's kind of
it's marriage, but it's just like it's the Olive Garden of
movies. Like, you know, it's schmaltz
like, you know, everybody likes it.
Yeah, but I wouldn't say it's anybody's like favorite movie.

(41:38):
It was under fucking 65, you know.
Yeah, probably. Let's see Forrest Gump
tombstone, of course, which is A10, the legendary Captain Ron
unlawful entry. I remember seeing that that was

(41:59):
like Ray Liotta was like a bad cop, like stalking Kurt Russell
and Madeline Stowe. Yeah, the.
Their security code for their house is pyramid.
Why do I remember that Chris I saw?
That movie once in like 1993 just burned.
In there, Yeah. He was a backdraft in 1991,

(42:23):
which I saw a lot growing up because my best friend's dad was
a firefighter. Yeah, was.
He also a fucking a Howie fan, no?
No, no, no, Tango and Cash, which we recently just did on
the Defenestration Hour, which is an awesome, awesome movie,

(42:44):
TJ. We're going to fight Escape from
LA and the prequel. You do not talk.
About escape from New York like that as.
Much as I love. Escape from LA.
He was in overboard with Goldie Hawn in 87 and somebody contact
IMDb because this is incorrect. So, so incorrect.

(43:05):
Yeah, I. Big trouble in little China.
IMDb has rated as a 7.2. We're going to do we get to is
this where we rate this? We do it up top.
Fuck, totally lost my spot. I don't care.
It's worth it because this moviedeserves a fucking 10.
Here we go, rate. There you go, right there. 10
fucking stars. Rate, OK.

(43:28):
Yeah. He was in Silkwood in 83.
We had to watch that like directing class in college.
The Thing 1980 was 82. Thing was 1982.
Escape from New York was 81. Used Cars is a pretty good movie
that he was in 1980. He played Elvis in ATV movie in

(43:49):
1979. He's in the original Hawaii 5 O
before he was an action star he was a Disney star.
Oh shit, yeah. Yeah, appearing in. 7 episodes
of the Magical World of Disney. He was in Gunsmoke.
Of course we've. Done this before?
You're right, we're going to move on.

(44:13):
He was a Daniel. Boone, apparently.
Damn it, I did it. Again, what is wrong?
With you I usually have the. Movie open first?
Yeah, For some reason, I don't. Well, we don't need the movie
open. Yeah.
So what are? You.
Doing fucking. Up there we go.

(44:36):
Walt Disney's last words, allegedly Kurt Russell.
All right, up next is Kim Cattrall.
I thought we had might have talked about her before just
because he's she's in so much shit, but we haven't apparently.
Really. Yeah, believe it or not.
Well, yeah, I guess. She doesn't really do a whole
lot of horror monster stuff. Yeah.

(44:58):
A lot of like dramas and stuff, yeah.
Like Romantic? Comedies.
She's most known for being in Sex and the City and for hating
Sarah Jessica Parker. Oh, really?
They fucking hate each other. Yeah.
Really. Yeah.
Yeah. She's only been in one episode
of that, that sequel series, because they fucking can't stand
each other. She was the narrator in the How

(45:23):
I Met Your Mother sequel series,How I Met Your Father.
Not a lot of recent stuff. We mentioned Sex and the City.
She's been on 2 episodes of The Simpsons.

(45:44):
God damn, yeah. She kind of, I think it's a lot
of stuff. But like, she was bigger.
In the 80s and 90s, yeah. She was An episode of Duck Man
in 1997, Hell yeah. Rugrats, 97, an episode of Dream
on 2 Cares. Split second.
With the Rutger Hauer in 1992, she was in Star Trek 6, The

(46:08):
Undiscovered Country. She was a Klingon in that, if I
remember correctly, or Vulcan. Vulcan, yeah, she was in
Mannequin in 1987. That movie was pretty big in the
80s. And of course, Porky's.
That's probably the thing she might be most known for next to

(46:29):
our audience. I.
Don't get why people love that movie.
Yeah. It.
Was it was the era, like where like, sure, like the raunchy
comedy was like, like the Porky's pushed the boundaries of
like what a raunchy comedy couldbe and still come out, I guess.
But that doesn't make it a good movie.

(46:50):
Yeah, no. Like, I, I mean, as somebody
who's grown up on those movies, like, that's never been one of
my favourites. Like it's just, yeah, like
animal. House is better.
Revenge of the Nerds was better,yeah.
Yeah, for sure. She was an episode of the
original Logan's Run TV series 1977.

(47:10):
What a long ass boring movie that is.
Quincy. She was also in another I think
fucking show from the Pentaveritt.
Maybe Trapper John? Not really.
Oh, she was in police Academy inthe first one, 1884.
We're going to move on from there.

(47:31):
Up next, Dennis Dunn, who plays Wang Chi in this.
Not really in like a whole lot of notable stuff.
He's in an episode of The BernieMac Show, an episode of The
Nanny. He's in the movie Warriors of
Virtue. Wasn't it like Kung Fu
Kangaroos? Yes.

(47:53):
Yes, yeah, yeah, you do like a hold.
On go up a little bit. Oh, I don't even know what the
fuck show that is. Midnight Caller.
Yeah. I think it's.
Based, I think. What's his name?
The guy who plays Lundberg in Office Space.

(48:15):
I think he was the main character.
Like he was like a radio DJ. Like he solves mystery.
Yeah, it is him. Gary Cole.
Yeah, he was the late night talkradio program while getting.
Yeah, he solves like mysteries and shit in his free time or
something. Yeah, I want to watch that.
Howard Stern solving mysteries, something like that.

(48:37):
Was it an episode of the 80s Beauty and the Beast TV series
with Ron Perlman? He was also in Prince of
Darkness in 1987. He is in The Last Emperor in
1987. Oh.
OK, I remember that movie. Yeah.
We're going to move on from there.
Up next, James Hong, who I thought like legend I, there's

(49:01):
no way. We have not talked about him
before, but I don't think we have.
I don't. Think so?
I thought he might have been theold.
Guy in gremlins, but maybe not. No, I don't.
Think he was? Yeah.
No, no, no, he definitely wasn't.
What he is, I mean, he's known for just being like the old
Chinese guy in a lot of things, yeah.

(49:25):
Well, he was. He was the the girlfriend in
Wayne's World. Why can't I remember her name?
Cassandra. Cassandra's dad, Yeah, yeah,
yeah. That was a great fucking scene.
Ram and Wayne fight the Kung Fu movie.
He was in the Kung Fu Panda movies.
He's done a lot of voice over stuff for that from the show and

(49:48):
like all the movies it looks like, yeah, I could have.
Swore we did. Him for.
Something I. Like for sure, keep going.
Oh, Turning Red. They're actually kind of decent
movie, yeah. Yeah, Pixar, Disney movie.
Yeah, he was in Everything Everywhere All at Once, which of
course won like Best Picture that year.

(50:11):
More Kung Fu Pan. There's a lot.
That Kung Fu Panda franchise is 17 years old.
Gross. Yeah.
I did not. Realize that hey, he was in a.
Sharknado movie? Yeah, he was.
Hawaii 5 O the reboot did a voice in Star Wars Rebels.

(50:33):
He's in rush hour, the TV seriesThe fuck All the.
Way off, he said 2. Episodes of the Mike Tyson
mysteries. Oh, Jesus.
Christ, a lot of kung. Fu Panda stuff.
He's an episode of Agents of SHIELD.

(50:53):
More. Star Wars stuff.
He's an episode of Drunk History.
He and Peele. He's an RIPD with.
I still have not. Seen that.
Like I was kind of excited because the concept was like
rad, but then everybody was like, this is God awful it
looked like. Garbage and it's just Men in
black with ghosts instead of aliens comic.

(51:14):
Book, I think. Yeah, I think it.
Was Yeah, He's in episode 2, Broke Girls.
More Kung Fu Panda. Some voice work in a couple of
Diablo games. More Kung Fu Panda.
Yeah, they use. In all of them, he's did.
Some scooby-doo voice work, moreKung Fu Panda.

(51:36):
Done. Some Call of Duty voice work,
More Kung Fu Panda 2008. Yeah. 17 years old, shows up in
an episode of Chuck. His name's Ben Lopan.
And Chuck. That's right.
Jesus Christ. He's in.
Balls of Fury in 2007. Yeah, and Christopher Walken

(51:59):
too. That is a weird movie.
That's so weird. I saw.
That in the theater. He's done a lot of video game
voice work. Yeah, he's got a super notable
fucking voice too. We've been scrolling this.
Whole time. And we're not even out of the
2000s. No, no.
No, the man works, yeah. I think we've hit the high

(52:20):
points there's, I feel like there's bigger stuff that we're
going to miss if we leave, like hanging with Mr. Cooper.
Mchale's Navy Yeah or Bloodsport3 home.
Improvement Kung Fu, the legend continues.
Hell yeah. The Dalai Lama.
Of course he did. Oh, he's a diagnosis murderer.

(52:40):
So that's like 2 shows at least of the bent Everett that we've
hit. He's an operation.
Oh my God. Who the fuck was the lead in
that? Bill Murray, wasn't it?
I don't think it was. No.
Wait, that's. Larger than life, Ray Liotta,
isn't it? I don't.
Know it's only a clip away, yeah.

(53:01):
That might have been. Ray Liotta.
Yeah, Danny. Glover, Ray Liotta and Dennis
Leary. I liked that movie a lot when I
was a kid. I liked that movie a lot.
Oh, good God, James Hogg is in alot of shit.
Yeah, Archer, we already had this shit.

(53:23):
Yeah. It's fine.
It's fine. It's.
It's fine. It's fine.
Yeah. We're past an hour.
Victor Wong, up next, who playedEgg Shan in this movie.
He's just always. The eccentric Chinese guy?
Yeah, we've talked about. It before because he was in
Tremors, yeah, which is another fucking classic I.
Love it. I'm I haven't seen anything

(53:44):
about it other than the poster, but the Tremors show on Netflix.
Yeah, looking forward to that. I'm down for.
It we forgot to mention one James Hong role.
He's snotty in Revenge of the Nerds too.
Like boogers, like sensei. Oh my God, Master.

(54:10):
But yeah, we've talked about Victor Wong before.
He was in Tremors. He's the grandpa in all the
three Ninjas movies. He was in Jade with the chick
from Men and Linda Fiorentino and the red headed dude from
NYPD Blue, David Caruso. There we go.

(54:31):
We've mentioned Tremors. We've mentioned 3 Ninjas on
Midnight. Collar too.
He was in. Prince of Darkness also and Last
Emperor. He's in the Golden Child as
well. I love that movie.
We watched that. Recently we had it on an air.
Is it as fun as I remember being?
No, it is. It's, it's not like Eddie
Murphy's, like one of his finer comedies, but it it's good.

(54:52):
I saw that a lot. When I was a kid, yeah, same.
Here, same here it's so you're. Telling me it doesn't hold up, a
la Big Trouble in Little China. No, I don't think.
I nowhere near I haven't seen that in a while.
But yeah, Kate Burton, who playsMargot, one of the prisoner like
one of the women being held prisoner in this Margot Oh, she.

(55:15):
Was the right redhead, yeah. Yeah, she's the.
Journalist. That's what it was.
Yeah, recently she was on an FBIshow on CBS.
She was in that movie Dumb Money.
I think that was the one about like the the GameStop stock
thing. Oh how it just got tanked by the
Internet. Just Cause yeah yeah, blew.

(55:36):
Up by the the Internet. Let's see, she was in a.
Couple episodes of Supergirl, her enemy.
Oh, she was in a couple episodesof that The Gifted show on Fox,
which wasn't bad. It was like it was like 50%

(55:58):
X-Men, 50% like X Force. It had like some characters,
like Polaris was one of the maincharacters, the like the three
like telepathic twins that are like Emma Frost, like proteges.
They were on it. But then there were, like, a

(56:18):
couple of, like, made-up characters, and it was it was it
was. It was better than really what
you were expecting. Yeah.
It only lasted a couple of seasons, though.
Like, the Fenris twins were, like, one of the main
characters, too. Like, the most obscure fucking
Jesus. Yeah.
Mutant characters, were they? Werewolves.
They're not, no. They're German though, so I
mean, that's close. OK Golden Child is the movie

(56:46):
Eddie Murphy chose to do insteadof Star Trek 4.
Really. I don't want that to be true.
I don't know that I. Want Eddie Murphy in my Star
Trek? Yeah.
That is nothing against. Eddie Murphy.
I love him. I don't believe he belongs in
Star Trek. I just recently.

(57:07):
Saw a preview for the next season of Strange New Worlds.
I can't wait. Yeah, yeah, that is my favorite
track. I gotta go.
Back. I gotta go back for it.
Yeah, I think I need a refresher.
I might just move on because I don't even know why we're
talking about her. Was she in a Pentaverich?

(57:27):
Show maybe she was in 127 hours.Max Payne, the movie with Mark
Wahlberg. No thank you.
She was in six episodes of Rescue Me, which is a really
good show. It started.
Off as a really good show and itgot fucking.
Repetitive and weird. Yeah.

(57:48):
Like, OK, we get it. Dennis Leary's an asshole.
Like, we get it. All right, we're going to move
on. Up next.
James. Pax, who was lightning in this
movie, One of the three storms he was in The Dark Knight he was

(58:10):
a Guardsman in. That must have been like one of
the dudes on the boat that was going to blow up towards the
end. It was an episode of Nash
Bridges, an episode of the steamy USA drama you got to skip
over. Martial law like that?
Silk Stockings. Martial law with Sam O hung

(58:31):
nasty boys. I watched the shit out of that
show when it was on. It was like a it's like a show
about like a SWAT team. It was like 19/19/90 so it was
like 90s as fuck. Yeah.
Yeah. Kinjute.
Forbidden subjects. That's for.
You know what this is, don't you?

(58:53):
It's for. Jerking off it's.
For jerking. Off OH.
God, there's an episode of the original Matlock in 1988.
There's three shows from the bent.
Everett shows up in MacGyver. TJ Hooker, It's an invasion.

(59:15):
USA in 1985. Chuck Norris.
We're going to move on. Chao Li Chi was Uncle Chu in
this movie. He was in The Prestige in 2006.
There's also some Wedding Crashers in 2005.
Blood Work, The Clint Eastwood movie, 2002.

(59:37):
Student of the Big, like early 2000s.
I'm going to say he's probably dead.
Is he? Yeah, yeah.
Didn't make it out of the man, the prestige.
That's. That's a good.
Ass movie. I think that's another.
Ten. Yeah, it's like at least a nine.
Yeah, that. Is a really fucking good movie.
He's in the Dragon to Bruce Lee story.

(59:59):
I think I saw that. 1000 times same here.
When I was a kid, yeah, I love watching.
Him fight the fucking the the statue, yeah.
Demon yeah, I had that on. VHS man I watch that all the
time. Did a voice in Batman the
Animated series. That guy.
Played the guy that played BruceLee in that.

(01:00:21):
He also played Mowgli in a fucking Jungle Book.
Jungle Book, Yeah. Yeah, he was in Fantasy Island.
Quincy. So that's four.
No, no, that's three. No, it's 33, 'cause we counted
one that isn't in the Pentagon. I forget.
Let's see. Yeah, that's it.

(01:00:44):
Yeah, we're gonna move on from there.
Up next, Craig ING. No, not Craig ING Craig and G He
was in recently an episode of Grotesquery, which is the thing
we watched that started. So good and had so much promise.

(01:01:07):
Man, did it suck. After that, Oh my God, He was,
of course, in Roadhouse. Not the good one.
The 2024 one. Yeah, I.
Haven't seen it because I don't want to.
Yeah, like I I won't. It's worth it I.
Think for the what the fuck of it all?

(01:01:27):
Yeah, but it's not something you're ever going to watch
again. Exorcism.
At 60,000 feet, all right. Is there a fucking?
Reason I saved this dude? I don't know.
I don't know dragnet low down, dirty.
Shit. Oh, that's why I saved him.

(01:01:48):
Oh Christ. Because he is in in 1994.
The Steven Seagal classic on Deadly ground.
Oh my gosh. Which will be the next featured
movie on the defenestration. Yeah, it is featuring Steven
Seagal kicking ass for the environment.

(01:02:08):
Dressed as an Alaskan Native, this.
Is like in the transition, like in the transition, I think like
he tried to like dress all Asianfor a little bit like and then
probably got crap for it. So it's like, you know what we
try to dress, you know, Native American for a while and then he
made on deadly ground and then like just immediately went back
to the Asian stuff right now forsure.

(01:02:34):
Well, I mean like. To be fair in 1994.
Suede. Jackets with fringe were in.
Glimmer. Man, spiritual trash trilogy,
Yeah, yeah, those were like right in a row.
Yeah. Those are films, yeah.

(01:03:00):
Oh my God. I.
Think I really only seen that's when like.
That's when he started like his trend of like.
I'm a better. Actor if I squint harder.
He was in The Perfect Weapon in 1991 with Jeff Speakman.

(01:03:21):
Did I think we did this movie onthe Defenestration Hour on like
one of our first episodes? I am almost positive we I
honestly don't remember. It doesn't sound familiar.
It is a film. He's like a master of Kenpo.
So he beats people up with sticks.
Oh, Jesus. Christ, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:03:43):
What's his name? Kevin Pollak used to do a joke
about it. He's like, they tried to make
like an action movie with his name's Jeff Speakman.
He's like, he's a he's a Jewish superhero, like a Jewish action
star. He's like, what's it going to
be? Stop with the kicking.
Whoa, whoa. I'll.

(01:04:05):
Yeah, I am like 99% positive we did.
Yeah, no, we totally did this onthe defenestration hour it.
Looks like shit it is. Which is why we did it on the
Defenestration hour. All right, we're going to move
on. Last up, we have June Kyoto Liu.
I saved her. She was White Tiger in this.

(01:04:29):
She was on 11 episodes of Vice Principals.
She's Walton Goggin's mother. Jesus.
Christ, yeah. I cannot believe the finale of
Gemstones is next week. Yeah.
I I was watching it last week itwas like episode fucking 7
already like this season. Hasn't been bad but I feel like

(01:04:50):
nothing has happened. Yeah.
Nothing's happened and it's overwith already.
Like what the fuck? Yeah.
Although this new episode was really good I thought.
I didn't. I didn't watch someone from last
night. Oh, it's pretty good.
Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, Yeah.

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Must. End with a bang.
Is there any other reason to keep going?
I don't think so, no. Let's get into the We're going
to the crapshoot, OK? Let's take a crap.
Shoot. Yeah, they've been doing nothing

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but character stuff. Yeah, that just that seems what
it's. Yeah, I don't.
I'm paralyzing BJ. I don't mind the.
Character stuff, yeah. Like you said, you weren't a
fan. Of the one Michael Rooker
episode, I like that one, I thought it was good.
Look, it was fine, it was fine, but like nothing developed the

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plot. It like nothing has been
developing the plot all season like.
They still have like all these problems and stuff that like,
they've never like, resolved andsomehow everything's ending next
week, like, all right again. Like, not that it was bad, it's
just that there's no plot to theseason.
This has probably been my. Least favorite season?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, saw sinners again last night.
Again. It's.
Fucking. It is really good.
Yeah. Yeah.
I like seeing it again. Like I yeah, I was just as like
blown away as a good again. It's like, that's like, you
know, late night with the devil.Like I knew that was going to be
my movie of the year. Like this one's going to be

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really, really tough to unseat for movie.
Yeah. For me anyway, like my personal
taste, it's like just fucking good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh man, what else came out this,
well, I mean Nosferatu? What else was I?
Like amazing this year my years blend together.

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So fucking yeah there. Hasn't been anything like mind
blowing. We're still early in the year.
Or was that last? Last last last year because he
was nominated. This year for Best picture that
wouldn't surprise me if Senatorsgets Best picture nomination.
Yeah, I think I. Think the only like big horror

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movies this year are that in Nosferatu, right?
Yeah, Nosferatu. Was Christmas.
I mean, technically that was 2024, was it?
Oh, Jesus. Christ, yeah.
Fuck. Yeah.
Something was coming out in a couple weeks.
Final Destination I know is coming out in a couple weeks,
which I yeah, I was never reallylike a huge fan of those.

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I think the first. One, yeah, 'cause it was like
cool and interesting, yeah. The classic Wolfman.
Yeah, God, that movie was bad. Yes.
Minecraft was horrific. It was a horrific experience in
the theater. Minecraft.
Whoa. Whoa.
Sorry, sorry, wrong channel thatone's got.
AK and umlauts on it I. Read issue 2 of The Mummy this

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week. Yeah, I, yeah, I'm starting to
dig it, although it is like, because the original, the first
issue was about them finding Artif Bay's tomb, like how he
gets out basically. And now issue 2 is them finding
like the, you know, the Princessmummy that they find in the
movie. That's, you know, the movie like

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centres around. So Artif Bay is like, you know,
entered the story in this one. So I'm digging it.
Like the artwork I'm not crazy about, but it's it's it's still
pretty good. It's still pretty good.
I'm not like, you know, I'm not like mad at it.
Let's say I'm here for it, as the kids say, I reading more of

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the absolute stuff. Martian Manhunter 2 came out
this week. I haven't read it yet, but we
were talking about that on the comics brain trust the other
night. That comic is fucking really
good. Peter and Nick were of the same
opinion. Like it.
Probably the best out of all those comics that have come out.
Really. Those absolute ones.
Yeah, it's. It's good to see Martian
Manhunter get his due. Yeah, that's because he's always

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been a solid character. It's just nobody's ever cared.
Yeah. Yes.
There was actually thank you Mattis Tatter for the setup.
Someone did put out a really sick draft traffic Dracula
graphic novel this year. There's been a whole.
Series of them they did. There was the James.
Tynion one that the the Universal Monsters one.

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Yeah, which you can win yourselfa copy of this Saturday plug
time, baby. At the big dumb monsters.
Trivia tournament. Yeah, yeah.
At the Saratoga. Comic Con more about that later,
but I just wanted to throw that in there while you mentioned,
but yeah, they. Did Frankenstein.
They did Creature, they did Dracula.
Now Mummy. Mummy is the one out.
Now, yeah, 4 right? Yeah.

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So next is. Probably either going to be
Wolfman or Invisible Man. Yeah.
I really wish they would do likesomething obscure like throw us
a curveball like Jekyll and Hydeor like.
Like Hunchback of Notre. Dame or something like that,
like you know, that would be. Sick.
Yeah, yeah. I haven't really partaken in too

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much media this week other than like.
Dude, I'm. I can't stop watching Love after
lockup. But there's a.
There's like a sequel series called Life After Lockup, which
is like a let's catch up with these guys a year after the
show. How many of them have?
Gone back to jail, dude. It's more than more than 0.

(01:10:50):
More than one, Yeah. Phantom of the Opera would be
awesome too. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
No, it's just, it's. Just fucking trash.
Yeah. Love it.
It makes me feel so good about myself.
Love it. Yeah, I started watching The

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Bondsman on Amazon. I heard good.
Things like I heard, but like, it's really repetitive.
Yeah, it's. Not great, you know, not like I
need to watch this, all of it immediately.
Yeah, but it's good, you know, I'll watch the, you know, the
rest of the season. My.
Buddy who watched it, like he was talking to me about it and

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we kind of came to the same conclusion where like because I
haven't seen it but like he was complaining about the show we
were talking about. It was like, So what if it was
like an hour long show instead of 1/2 hour and he doesn't kill
a demon every episode. He's like, that would make it
great. Yeah, yeah.
I. I could.
I could see that, Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I.
Do I do really want to watch it?I just haven't gotten around to

(01:11:55):
it yet, Yeah. What the fuck else, man?
Oh, I bought Artie Lang's third book to read.
I'm going to try to read the theConan versus Leno Burke book
first. But I do want to read Artie's
third book because I'm I'm really loving Jesus Christ.
How many did he write? 3 Three, yeah.

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I have the signed his first bookaround here somewhere.
Oh, really? Signed copy.
Yeah. Nice.
Yeah. It's been like a busy week.
This week is going to get crazy.Yeah.
Yeah, well the the pre con thingis.

(01:12:42):
Is upon us. It's it's real.
Yeah, it's real. God, I'm so excited to Hardy
Lang. Yeah, his his third book is
just. You got any more to him
snorting? Glass stories.
Yeah, like. You know, life advice from like
for like degenerates. So I really want to read that.
Jesus Christ. It's like a Bukowski book.

(01:13:03):
Yeah, yeah. Basically, yeah.
I mean, I just read a couple of comics.
Really not. Like, I don't know, it's been a
light. Week.
Yeah, for sure. I haven't even played Call of
Duty this week, which is I usually play the shit out of
that. You falling out?
No, I just. Haven't had time.
It's not this week. Yeah.

(01:13:23):
Yeah, I. Feel like we're beating a dead
horse here. There's got to be something I'm
forgetting, No? Like.
I don't think so. Yeah, they went.
To the movies the one time. That's it, yeah.
Let's do some. Plugs.
Get the fuck out of here then get the fuck.
Out. As we mentioned this this

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Saturday and Sunday, we're goingto be at Saratoga Comic Con in
Saratoga Springs, NY at the Saratoga City Center.
Yeah, so excited. I am hyped.
We're going to be. Doing 2 panels, we're doing 3.
Panels across two days, Yeah, 'cause you have Saturday we've
got Nick and I are going to be talking with the voice actors

(01:14:08):
from Red Dead Redemption 2. I believe that's like 2:00 or
2:15. I think it's. 130 whatever same.
Thing, whatever, yeah, just point me to the room at that
time and we'll get through it. Yeah.
And then the the big one, the main event, the thing you are

(01:14:29):
not going to want to miss Saturday night at 6:15 in the
panel room is going to be the second ever big Dumb Monsters
trivia tournament. If you are interested in
participating, you can sign up at our table.
We'll have a list throughout theday.
First four, four people to sign up will get a bye to the second

(01:14:54):
round of the tournament. If you're not in that first
four, you're going to be fighting it out, you know, with
the with the lower caste. Arthur's actor to say something.
Oh yeah, I'm sure we can get something out of them.
I. Think you're going to get stuff

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out of all of us? Yeah, the amount of liquor I
know I am personally bringing like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If if you are, you know, going to be there any of our our, you
know, usual watchers, you're going to want to stop on by,
maybe get a shot of dude shot ofbodega cat with us.

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Yeah, that. Bottle is not going to last.
That bottle is not. Making it to the panel, I don't
think I would like to save it for the panel and kill it at the
panel, but that might be a tall order because we're going to be
drinking all day. We don't have to be savages.
I don't want to hear that. Negativity in this shit.

(01:15:57):
I need to be. At least level headed enough for
the panel because it's my first one like so I'm I'm nervous.
Oh yeah, for. That one, yeah.
Yeah, but after dude, I have done those clinging to
consciousness at times fucking like, no joke.
I don't know how I survived the the the the biling panel.

(01:16:19):
Oh my God. Is that the one you came back?
You were like, I understand whatstage legs are now.
Yeah. 'Cause immediately, as soon as I
was done, I felt like I was going to die, like I had to
crawl across the Convention Center to get food in me, 'cause
I had not eaten anything all dayexcept liquor.
And candy. Liquor and table candy donate to

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free art. We're going to let art out once
for the convention. Yeah, yeah.
He's going right back to his cage, Yeah.
And then Monday after the con, it is episode 200.
Yes. For your.
Boys, here we are going to be joined by special guests Alex
and Thor, who have both assured me that they are showing up.

(01:17:05):
Uh huh. Yeah.
No, Alex is, you know, he's likemy kid is gone for the day.
He's like, I am in the clear. I'm still coming.
So you're not going to miss that.
We always have fun. Yeah.
We are taking it easy on ourselves for once.
Yes. Yeah.
We are not going to be watching.We didn't let them pick the.
Movie, that's the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep, Yep. We are going to be watching

(01:17:30):
Godzilla King of the Monsters, the 2018 legendary monster verse
movie. One of my favorite Godzilla
movies. I fucking love that movie.
It's it's the total. Package.
Yeah, yeah. So, you know, yeah, that's
that's going to be a fun episode.
We're doing a good movie. We've got good guests.

(01:17:51):
Arthur will be in the house returning Pope ever Thunder
penis. Yep.
Yeah. The best monster versus Godzilla
movie. I can 100% agree with that.
Yeah, for sure. So yeah, that'll be the movie
for next week, I'm sure. Well, it'll be day three of us

(01:18:13):
drinking Mead. Fucking.
Yeah. Because Hay Boots is bringing
it. Thor's bringing it.
Yeah, I'm sure Alex will bring it on Monday.
Oh my God. We're.
Going to be. Full of honey and booze?
Yeah, I think. We're going to be ossified by
Tuesday. Yeah, that's.
That's the thing. The Raymond Burr one.

(01:18:36):
No, no, no, we're doing the yeah, yeah, the 2018 one.
And then after that, we might have stuff coming up in the
summer. We might have something coming

(01:18:56):
up in July. I have a lead on, OK and then
for sure things we have booked, you can get a hold of us in
August. We're going to be the same
weekend. August it's going to be, I think
it's August. I know you guys are August 2nd

(01:19:17):
and 3rd at Mid Hudson Comic Con.I will be at Tampa Bay Comic Con
August 1st through the 3rd. That is in Tampa Bay, New York
and in Poughkeepsie, NY. Not going to want to miss.
We're going to be hosting panelsand stuff at both of those
shows. You guys should be doing trivia
again too, but I'll let you knowwhen I hear.

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OK. And then maybe something in
September. I have to reach back out to that
guy. I just forgot to.
Yeah, things. Happen.
Yeah, yeah. All right, but that'll be a fun
one, too. Yeah.
And then for sure, we're back inSaratoga in November, right
before Thanksgiving, always where we'll be up to more of our

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shenanigans and hijinks. And and.
Whatnot, shenanigans, hijinks and whatnot.
All right, so that's everywhere we're going to be now.
We're going to tell you where you can find us on the regular.
Our website is www.bigdumbmonsters.com.
You can e-mail us. Suggestions.

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I'm definitely going to work on that and then you should listen

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to these words of wisdom that we're about to drop on you.
That wasn't me forgetting that that's the end of the plugs.
Not at all for the. 100 and. 99th time we're.
Going to leave you with some words of wisdom and then get the
hell out of here. Don't let gooey's eat your ass
and. Never sleep in a deathbed.
Bye bye.