Ep. 205 - The Amazing Spider-Jam - Eight Legged Freaks

Nick returns this week and we're BUGGING OUT! We're watching 2002's giant spider horror comedy, Eight Legged Freaks! Starring David Arquette.

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Episode Transcript

(00:32):
None. Hey everybody, welcome to Big No
Monsters. I'm Nick.
And I'm Chris. Holy shit, that's me.
Wow. Jesus, this week we take a trip
back to 2002 for 8 legged freaks.

(00:54):
We did, yeah. The David Arquette comedy horror
giant spider movie. Yeah, it's really the most
accurate description. It's a fun watch.
It's a brief watch, thankfully. Yeah, Yeah.
It it's in entertains you, it gets out, then we mostly like it
and we'll tell you exactly why. So hang on tight and listen to

(01:18):
the episode here. And I don't know, maybe watch
the movie. Give the movie a watch first.
Sure, yeah, whatever. But yeah, big dumb monsters
talking about 8 legged freaks. Enjoy the show.

(02:06):
And there we are. Here we are.
As you can see, we've got Nick back this week we had to once
again prisoner swap with Art. Yeah, he is back in Secot.
We will hope he will be home soon.
Fingers crossed it's. Whatever.
What's up ladies and gentlemen, let me start this movie.

(02:30):
I have never seen this movie before yesterday despite working
in the movie theater when this movie was out.
Really. Yeah, yeah.
Wow. We are watching 8 Legged Freaks
tonight. The 2002 giant spider.
You know, it's kind of a throwback to like that.
I almost said like spider Kaiju.Not really.

(02:53):
Yeah, I don't know. Not quite.
It's more of a throwback to likethem and like stuff like that.
Yeah, it's like the atomic age kind of thing.
I thought this was fun. It is fun, but it's also not
good. It's not good, but I I enjoyed
it. I'd like I don't regret watching
it. Yeah, I, yeah, I'm, I'm like

(03:14):
right there with you. Like, it's, it's fine.
And I, I like what it's doing, but just like, I don't know,
like it didn't, it didn't do allof the things that it's trying
to do very successfully. Yeah, yeah, I do wish there was
less CGI or better CGI. For 2002, it's not bad.

(03:36):
Yeah, yeah. Really not bad.
There were some of the spiders looked pretty good, and there
were some that just looked God awful, like, yeah, like 90s,
like TV show quality, like CGI, right?
But I mean, like, the practical stuff looked really good.
The practical spiders. TJ, what's going on, man?

(03:57):
He's laying in to you already. This played at the Adonis All
Men's Theatre in Bath House where Chris was a towel boy.
He's. The assistant greaser.
OK. Jesus, yeah, I'd rather be towel
boy. You're gonna work your way up
to. That all right?
That's disgusting. Yeah.

(04:18):
Oh my God, yeah. I don't like like the scary
isn't like that scary and the funny isn't that funny.
But like, I as I was watching this, like I was really thinking
like, not all horror movies haveto be scary.
No, it's true. Like they can be fun like this.
This is a perfect example of it.Like, you know it is.

(04:41):
The horror isn't like, you know,obviously these bugs are killing
everybody, but it's not shown toyou in like that scary of a way.
It's a goofy, like, funny kind of way, right?
No. I I you know, I won't say I
didn't have fun watching this. Yeah, yeah.
It just, it's it's it's just a lot less good arachnophobia,

(05:01):
that's all. I could think the whole time
through. I don't even think it's fair to
compare them though. Like yes, they do have spiders,
but arachnophobia is more of like a like a realistic like
scientific like horror type of thing where you know, it's not
giant spiders, it's normal. It wasn't giant spiders, but it

(05:22):
was killer spiders and it was a comedy.
It was a comedy about spiders, like a a horror comedy about
spiders and arachnophobia just did a better job.
I don't know, like, and, and this is like, I don't want to
shit on this movie, right? But like the, the, the CG is a

(05:46):
little janky. Yeah.
David Arquette is not a good actor.
No, he's not. I will say this is one of like
the only roles I think he's everbeen in where he hasn't been
fucking annoying, where he hasn't been playing David
Arquette. Yeah, because he like he plays
it as your straight, like, you know, hero fucking movie

(06:06):
character. Like, you know, usually he's
like the goofy side guy, like making all the jokes and being
funny, like, you know, like he'susually just fucking annoying.
So I don't know, I, I, I will agree with you on that.
He's not a great actor, but thishe didn't really bother me in.
This and there's also like there's always a lot of weird
tension in his face. I don't know what it is.

(06:29):
He's, he's always like, he's like, like pulling his face
back. He's about to say something.
He's trying not to. Yeah.
Yeah, throwback to the 50s giantmonster movies.
Yeah. Yeah.
And if you're, if you're lookingfor more than that hydrate,
you're not going to get it. Cheers.

(06:51):
Cheers. Yeah, it's it's, it's wearing
its inspiration on its sleeve and it's fine.
Yes, that is his attempt at BlueSteel.
You know, because I, I don't love the the like Atomic Age big

(07:16):
bug movies, like they're just, they're just super hokey, right?
Like, and that wasn't my era of movie.
Like I, I like the things that came after that, but I can
appreciate them. Like, I know that like it was a
thing and culturally, culturallyvery important.
I was to say I do have a little bit more of appreciation for
those after like we watched them.

(07:38):
Yeah. Yeah.
Because that was actually prettygood.
It was. I just, I can't imagine many of
them are of that quality. Yeah.
No, no. Cast.
Cast was good. I like, I like pretty much
everybody that's in it. It's pretty stacked cast like

(08:00):
David Arquette, Carrie were. Leanne Rippy.
Yeah, that dude who's like in everything.
Yeah, this dude who's like the bad dude in everything, Like,
you know, he's like a villain orlike a weird guy.
His fingernails give me the ick.They're they're long and yellow
and like curved around like I'm grossed out.

(08:21):
I just realized he's not in my movie credits.
I'm going to bring him up anyway.
Tom Noonan. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure he'sbeen in like 1,000,000 movies.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we've eventalked about him before.
But yeah, he's been in so many things.
Yeah, here we go. Christ, yeah.

(08:45):
Tom Noonan. Yeah, I'm trying to think of
like, what else is there to say about this?
Because it's not a very deep movie.
It's not. It's like.
There's cool moments though, because like I, I do, I do
appreciate all the like, you know, I'm being chased by these
things. I'm on a dirt bike.

(09:06):
Got to get out of this whole situation.
They're killing everybody. Like cool action scenes.
Like it has like a good blend ofstuff.
You know, you have those like chase scenes and then there are
the like creepy moments and thenthere's some suspense.

(09:26):
And I I didn't hate the comedy in it.
Like it just, I don't think it, it wasn't just, it just wasn't
hitting like the right beat for me.
Yeah, I will say I wish there was less of the comedy and more
of like the horror aspect of this.
Yeah, because that's. Just kind of who we are as
people when it comes to these movies.
Yeah, but I, like, I could do without the scenes of like,

(09:47):
people getting wrapped up in goofy ways going like, like, you
know, shit like that. I will tell you that it drove me
insane to hear noises coming outof the spiders.
Yeah, spiders don't go. You know what noise they make?
Nothing. They don't have lungs.
What noise they make? Squish.

(10:09):
Yeah, that's the one. Crunch.
Squish. Oh shit, I had something and
then it's gone. Oh, was it?
Yeah. I like that there was a variety
of spiders. Yeah, instead of just like copy
and pasting the same fucking spider over and over again.
Yeah, if you're going to keep out on the effects at least
like. Yeah, there was like 3 or 4

(10:29):
varieties of spider. Yeah, make it a, you know, a
variety. Good and they all did different
things too, which was cool. So like the tarantulas, they're
bigger and beefier. They're the ones that are, are
like breaking down doors and moving cars and shit.
And then the the like the orb Weaver spiders are, you know,
like the they're fast and they're like chasing after
people and then. The trapdoor.

(10:49):
Spiders. Yeah, that's cool.
I I remember what I was going tosay.
I swear I had like a Mandela Effect moment cause the one of
the theater check scenes for this movie was the dirt bike
chase. So I saw like I've never seen
this movie but I saw that scene like dozens of times.
I fucking swear the one kid getsbitten in half by one of the

(11:11):
spiders when he does like the the jump and like kick to the
side. I could have sworn he got bitten
in half and he doesn't and I'm this version anyway.
Think there's anything like thatgrizzly to the people in the
movie? Yeah, like when people die, it's
just like you see a spider, you know, pounce on them and like,
you just hear, like, sounds and.Stuff, yeah, which is fine.

(11:33):
Like that's that's one of the things that makes it like, you
know, for your younger kids, youknow, like this is probably not
a terrible place to start because it's got big gross
spiders, which is, you know, scary on its own.
And then but there's a lot of moments where it's not scary.
It's it's, you know, it's entry level.

(11:54):
Yeah, this is like in the era oflike we're going to make this
Peach. Well, it's we're still in the
era of like we're going to make this PG13 because this is the
most marketable we can get the most kids into.
It for sure. And I would like to see an R
rated version of this. Yeah, maybe.

(12:16):
I don't know. I don't know that I want.
I don't know that I want like a a crazier, gorier version of
this. Like, I like the tone that this
sets. Yeah.
I just think it, it should have executed a little better on
like, what the comedy is and what the horror is.

(12:37):
Yeah. But like the the deputy is a
complete laughingstock, right? Like.
Yeah, friend of the show Rick Overton.
Again, if I had like, known he was in this movie, I could have
made the effort to like, reach out and try to fucking get him
on the show. Yeah, but he's like, he's too
goofy. Like like he's serious in

(13:02):
moments and then he's a completegoofball.
You know what I mean? Like pick a lane.
But like, I don't think this needed like a a crazy wacky
character. Yeah, that was another.
Scene the same with the maintenance guy in the mall.
Another scene that I can do without is the cat getting
killed by the spider. That was dumb.
Yeah, it was like, you see face prints of the cat in the wall

(13:24):
and come on, it's drywall, not fucking jello.
Like, yeah. That's what I was saying.
When I was watching. I was like, that's not how
drywall works. Yeah, yeah.
You would not see a perfect imprint of a cat's face or a
spider coming through. Like just have like impressions,
like things are breaking through.
Like it's fine, you can do that,but don't make it like laughable

(13:49):
because that wasn't funny because it was like good.
That was funny because it was fucking stupid.
Yeah, yeah. What else is there to say?
Like there really isn't much to say about this.
Again, 'cause it's just. It's shallow.
Yeah, it's really shallow. I you know what I love The

(14:11):
conspiracy theorist radio host. Yeah, character, lone black guy
in the movie. Actually, there's two.
The other guy that gets killed, the guy that gets killed in the
mine with the spiders coming outof his mouth.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, I think they could
have, they could have been a little more creative with like

(14:34):
the progression of the spiders, right?
Because you see them small as normal, then you see them as
like the medium size, and then they're just big.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Within like a few hours
basically. Yeah, like I I could have used
some more like medium sized spider shenanigans I think.
Did like the giant huge female tarantula at the end.

(14:55):
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they they they designed and paced the movie
well, like I I didn't get bored.I wasn't like, all right, get to
the point. I was 90 minutes flat too, which
was good, yeah. It's, it's decent.
I just don't, I don't know man. Like it's it's not something

(15:16):
that I want to rate low enough to even.
Carry were in a sponge bath. And it's not something I want to
rate low enough to say like I it's below rewatch ability.
I just don't want to watch it again.
You know what I mean? Like it it, I'm going to rate it
enough like that we're above thethe line of rewatch ability.

(15:38):
I just don't care to watch it again.
OK. You know what I mean?
OK, I honestly hadn't thought about a rating until right now,
but I think I know where where Ilie on this one.
Oh, really? Because I really, I really did
have fun watching and I really enjoyed it.
Yeah, You know, if I had like, anostalgia factor attached to it
because this movie is 23 years old.

(16:00):
Shut up. Tall.
I might, you know, I might really, I might think this is
like an amazing movie. If I saw this, like, even when
it was out, I was like in my 20s, so I wouldn't have been
blown away by it. But like, if I were like, you
know, 1213 and I saw this like, oh, I'd be amazed.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, because I would have that same kind of thing for like

(16:20):
arachnophobia, where like I saw it as a kid and it creeped me
the fuck out. And I never realized like kind
of how funny it was until I saw it as an adult.
And so like, if I had that same nostalgia for this, I'd feel the
same way. Lac Octopus we are.
We're doing well. All right, what's going on, man?

(16:41):
We. How are you doing, man?
Maybe, man, we don't know that. Oh yeah, sorry.
I, I didn't mean to, to impose, you know, don't.
Gender. The cephalopods.
All right, I think we can move on to the ratings.
Do you want to raise it? Because we're we're like, we're

(17:01):
really ringing this movie for, like, comments right now.
Yeah. Oh man, it's just.
I don't know, I, I will say like, you know, like I've been
saying, I I really had fun watching this.
Yeah, it's not the greatest horror movie I've ever seen, but
like if you know, I for for 90 minutes I had a blast.

(17:21):
I think I'm going to go with a flat 6.
Yeah, I'm right there too. OK, because like I'm definitely
I would, I would voluntarily rewatch this again, like if it
were on like, you know, just on TV and like Pluto or Tubi or
something. Absolutely.
I'll throw it on for like a little a little bit, but I don't
think it's like something I would ever own or something like

(17:43):
that that's classified. Yeah, I'm right there.
It's a six and you know, like ifit was on or somebody turned it
on, I I wouldn't argue it, but I'm not going to choose it again
because like I can find stuff init to be entertained by it.

(18:05):
Like it's it is an entertaining movie.
I like we're on the same. It's just not.
It's just not doing the thing for me, like I'm not getting.
I guess I'm more forgiving of its flaws, Like, I don't know, I
again just 'cause I had never seen this.
It was a quick there's like, it was just a quick watch and like
it was just fun. It's fine.

(18:27):
Yeah, it's fine. It's fine, it's just.
But I was gonna say it's weird that we're on the same, we're on
the same number, but we're like completely different, like
viewpoints of the movie. Yeah, yeah, I like, I, I wanna.
You're building it up to A6, I'mdropping it down to a six.
Yeah, I even want, I even want to go to a 65, but that just
sounds wrong. Yeah, like it.
TJ rated it at 65. TJ, when you went 65, All right,

(18:52):
Yeah. I, I, I as much as I liked it, I
can't go to a 65 'cause that's, that's like verging on A7 and
he's definitely in seven. Like yeah, yeah.
Christ now. Yeah.
So yeah, straight 6. I usually try to aim for like a
.5 to give it a range but yeah flat 6 not.
With this one it's 6. All right.

(19:16):
God damn it. We're going to move on to the
trivia. You have a button to press.
We do not to bother you with trivia.

(19:41):
TJ 65 In your Dreams. He could be from Canada, he
could be talking centimeters, you don't know.
And everybody uses the imperial system well.
They should. OK, let's move on to 8 legged

(20:02):
Freaks IMDb trivia, which there wasn't.
The whole lot of like it was there was weird shit in the
trivia. Hold on.
There's a Hulk Hogan beer. Yeah, real American beer.
It tastes like suntan lotion andfucking flower sweat.
Yeah, I have not tried the Hulk Hogan beer, but I do.

(20:26):
I do want to try that. I don't think they sell it
around here. There was one I almost grabbed
the other day and I should have.It was just garage beer like
that. Sounds good.
Oh, that's the Kelsey's the. Oh, is it really?
Yeah, Travis and. That makes me, like, a little
less Jason. Jason.
Yeah. He's rad, all right.

(20:47):
Travis Kelsey. Whatever, whatever.
The the one that was on the Eagles is awesome.
Sure, he's an animal. I'll, I'll be, I'll give as
thumbs up as I can for an Eaglesplayer.
Yeah, yeah, they have. There's like the regular beer

(21:07):
and then there's one with lime. Yes, producer.
Fake producer beer universe in Troy.
Watervole food Mart and Walmart on Hoosick Rd. in Troy.
Sell the real American beer. Yeah, send an expedition out to
the beer universe on a voyage. Voyage into the universe.

(21:31):
For Hulk Hogan beer, these are the voyages of the Starship
Drunkard. Oh my God, me and Maisie crack.
When it goes, how did they do that?
Every kid. Oh Jesus Christ.
All right, here we go. The title did not come from the

(21:53):
script, the director or the studio.
In one scene, actor David Arquette improvised the phrase 8
Legged Freaks and that became the title.
The original title was Iraq Attack.
In in. Many European countries the film
was released under that title and the scene the scene can be
seen in the movie with that phrase intact.

(22:14):
So like what is this? Stupid fucking cat scene.
I fucking hate it. Iraq attack comes from like when
the kid was in the Uncle Molesti's spider emporium.
Like the one spider jumped on the other one and said that's
called an Iraq attack. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

(22:36):
Yeah. And then I thought to myself,
that's dumb. No, it's not.
It's an even worse name than 8 Legged Freaks. 8 legged freaks
is all right that it kind of gives you that like.
It is. Like monster movie.
And it does kind of like, you know, tip its hat that it's, you
know, a little goofy, like a little, you know, jokey.
Yeah. You can get everything at the
Stuarts in Vermont. Trust me.

(22:57):
Everything. Yeah, everything.
Let's see here. The spider that bites Joshua is
a pink toe tarantula from South Africa or South America.
I'm sorry. All right, Yeah.
Just in case you wanted to know the exact spider.
Pink toe tarantula sounds like something you see in Tijuana,

(23:18):
yeah. It's a drink, I think.
Yeah. You're one of those pink toe
tarantulas. What are you trying to die?
Bartender gives you the kiss to death and walks away.
Like what the fuck? He.
Hand you the note like that, Mariachi.

(23:40):
The band just packs up and walksup.
Oh fuck. Oh no.
Christ. The film on the TV when Mike
Parker tries to convince his momthat there are giant spiders is
them from 1954, A film about giant irradiated ants.

(24:01):
Yeah, I noticed that. Good to give a shout out, but
that was a little on the nose, you know?
Any reference in this movie is ham fisted.
I think that's another reason I'm like, you didn't need to do
that because like subtlety can be a thing.
Like we can do subtle nods. You don't have to be hit over
the head with the yeah, the nod.Yeah, let's see here.

(24:27):
It was shot for the relatively low cost of $30 million.
A third of that budget went to the special effects if there.
There were a fair amount of practical effects too.
Yeah, which I did appreciate because the practical stuff did
look pretty good. I was, you know.
I I still say that the the CGI that they had in this is not
that bad. Like it really wasn't.

(24:49):
But I still like, I still can, you know, contend that they
spent more on certain spiders than they did on others.
Oh yeah, for sure. Pardon me.
Let's see here. A Springfield M 190383 is one of
the rifles that Deputy Pete Willis takes from the gun locker

(25:10):
at the station. For some reason, he says that
the weapon is the Lee Harvey Oswald.
Rifle. I don't even know why we have
this. Which was actually a Carcano
M9138. That was funny, I will say that.
Why? Why do we even have this?
And then he gives it to Dougie. Doug.
Yeah, a conspiracy theorist. And he goes, Harlan, Harlan, he

(25:32):
goes, we Harvey Oswald rifle. I do like a conspiracy theorist
character, you know, one that's obviously mentally ill.
This I'm I'm I'm cutting to the crapshoot, but I'm going to

(25:52):
forget if I don't mention this now.
Jesus Christ. Speaking of odd conspiracy
theorist characters, one of the guests they just announced for
Tampa Bay Comic Con, Randy Quaid.
Oh, what? Why?
Why would they do that? For me, for me.
That's why I I would fucking shoot somebody to host that

(26:14):
panel. Please, too.
Yeah, please let the universe line up to let me host the Randy
Quaid panel. Only if you dress like Cousin
Eddie. I will buy the white shoes and
everything if I have to. Oh, that'll be amazing anyway.

(26:36):
Gross. All right, now our last trivia
fact is whenever a major spider attack happens, the theme
playing is a play on the song Itsy Bitsy Spider.
I didn't notice that. Right, but that's cool because
you didn't notice. So if you go back and you watch
it again, you'd be like, Oh yeah, see, like that's cool.

(26:56):
Shit. Yeah, that's cool.
I don't need ham fisted old movie references.
I can see those. I can hear them.
Like it's fine, let's just move it along.
But Are you ready for one star reviews?
Oh. Let's do those one star reviews.
Oh my. God, here we go.

(27:17):
Title of this one. Horribly bad for lovers of
serious sci-fi. I saw this movie when it came
out in the theaters and I was expecting something like past
giant spider films like Tarantula, Earth Versus the
Spider, The giant spider, invasion spiders and arachnid
like, you know, too many giant spiders.
Yeah, yeah. But you're also expecting too

(27:39):
much. Exactly.
But nothing like them at all. It was awful.
It was actually a send up or a spoof of old giant spider
movies. So I wasted 99 minutes of my
money and time on this movie because I thought it was going
to be something that it wasn't. Stay away from this movie unless
you like spoofs of original serious films like.

(28:01):
What the fuck were you expecting?
Yeah. There is nothing really I can
say about this movie except thatit blows.
This is not a serious fucking movie.
Yeah, it's cold. 8 legged freaks.
What, Like what did you go in expecting Shakespeare like?
Yeah, also those old bug movies were not totally serious.

(28:22):
Yeah, yeah, I hate to break it to you, bro, but yeah, they
like, they didn't really like put everything into those
movies. Those cost $0.30 to make.
Yeah. And like, the spirit of it is
like, those were fun to watch. Like, yeah, this is fun to
watch. Yeah.
Granted, it might not be for thesame reason it's sending up
maybe that reason in your mind, but like, that doesn't make it

(28:45):
not enjoyable. Like, right.
Yeah. Grow up, man.
Yeah, they were all goofy, too, said DJ.
Yeah. Yeah.
Shit, there's a giant spider with this watch or this watch or
this watch or this watch or thiswatch or this watch or this
watch. I could have saved so many

(29:05):
lives. Oh, thank you.
That was Schindler's Giant Spider AA1 band show by Chris
Martinez. I.

(29:40):
Couldn't make more hinges. They were calibrating my web.
Jesus Christ, the worst. I don't know if you knew this.
Anyway. God damn.

(30:04):
All right, moving on. Title of this one.
This movie was lame. It's creative.
A film about giant spiders trying to be funny.
Were the film makers on drugs? A little humor is nothing bad.
Yeah, probably a little humor isnothing bad, but the amount here
was absurd. It was like they were trying to

(30:25):
make a it palatable for 10 year old girls.
Yeah, they were. Have you noticed that in all of
these reviews, when somebody thinks that like a movie isn't
serious, it's for 10 year old girls?
It's almost like a There's a vein of misogyny running through
the Internet. What?
But like, yeah, they're dumbing it down to friggin bringing the

(30:47):
kids. Like you're not seeing a movie
for adults. Like it's another thing you need
to realize. There is a way to broaden the
audience for horror movies, and that's with movies like this
that are palatable for everyone.Like everyone can sit down and
watch this. Like if you can sit down and
say, oh I had fun watching this giant spider movie, like what

(31:09):
else could I watch? What other giant spider movies
are there? Yeah, yeah.
But how can that be? There are scenes of spiders
sucking life out of human webbedhuman beings, barely.
And those silly spider voices. Oh Lord, was I ever laughing?
Not. Why is that in every one of

(31:31):
these reviews like at least oncea week so.
They were written in 1993. This is why I like similar
themed 50s films more. They don't try to be something
they're not. You watch them and them is what
you get it. Is them a children's film?
I don't know, but I did see it first when I was a child.

(31:55):
Oh no wait, that's right. People are so much more
sophisticated today. This guy is such a pretentious
Dick hole and he's wrong. It's like a pretentious and
wrong Dick hole. Sitting in front of like a word
processor from like 1998 like. Oh my God, you.
Know like a cup of wine and a plate of cheese.
Typing up his review of eight. You know this.

(32:17):
Dude is wearing suspenders, rolled up cuffs, and no fucking
for the. Record.
I did just say, did I say a plate of wine and a cup of cheap
whatever? Yeah, probably.
He probably is. You know why?
Because that's how they do it inFrance.
Yeah, exactly. Fucking peasant.
They can never accept giant spiders on the loose, so they so

(32:39):
it's got to be made into a comedy for them to quote.
Enjoy. Obviously there is a contingent
of people out there who think genre stuff is ridiculous.
OK, slash, whatever. But why do some people who
handle genre stuff act as thoughthey need to pander to someone
else, to someone else's contempt?

(33:00):
Avoid this film totally. You are a douchebag.
Douchebag, douchebag. OK, Dice, but yeah, I.
Get it? If you don't like this movie, if
you dig on the shit that's blackand white with fishing line all

(33:22):
over the fucking place, that's the movie you like.
Yeah, fine. There is literally nothing wrong
with this movie. Like content wise, the way it's
made is fine. Does it do the things I want it
to do? No, but I have constructive
criticism of it. I say I think they lean too hard

(33:44):
on the jokes. I don't think they leaned enough
in the horror whatever but to just write it off as like this
was made for 10 year olds. They don't make movies like they
used to. Like grow the fuck up.
You are not Siskel. You're not Ebert.

(34:05):
Yeah. And nobody cares.
Well, I care because I get to make fun of you.
They've been trying to make ostrich meat happen for a while,
and it hasn't happened yet. Ostrich meat.
Yeah, that's a whole like subplot of this when we go down
to Jesus Christ. Ostrich rancher.
What did I just have a stroke? Like nobody's eating ostriches.
I don't know why. Like it just doesn't sound

(34:26):
appetizing. Ostrich leather is a thing.
Yeah, you get like wallets and shit, man.
Yeah. So that's that's probably more
what you're going to get at an ostrich farm.
And eggs. Ostrich eggs are a thing.
Yeah, I don't know how they taste though.
Probably like eggs. OK I like the the title of this

(34:50):
one is just sucks. This would have been an OK movie
in the day of Revenge of the Creature or before.
This would have been an OK in the movie.
In the movie that it's like homaging.
Yeah, in the in the era of the movies that it's homaging.
If you have an 8 year old who has never seen this storyline,

(35:11):
whether spiders, monsters, aliens or whatever, then they
might like it if you can stand to watch it yourself.
Bro. Like, get over yourself.
It's not that bad of a movie. Do I love it?
No, I'm not. Do I think it's?
Crucify it. Yeah, well, that's going to earn

(35:34):
the sound hydrate. Yeah, probably.
Oh man, I you know what? When Chris was talking about
this movie when we were like oh hey 8 legged freaks, I was
thinking of Evolution as well because TJ had mentioned it
here. But if I'm remembering Evolution

(35:58):
correctly, I like that a little better because that's like,
that's a goofball comedy. Yeah, yeah, with.
Like monsters and stuff. That happens to have, excuse me,
monsters in it. Yeah, and this is nowhere near
Tremors. Tremors is fucking God tear.
Yeah, yeah. I fell asleep the other night

(36:19):
watching listening to Tremors anyway.
Oh yeah? Oh, you're still doing that
thing where you go to sleep watching or listening to movies?
Yeah, now I've just moved on to,like, streaming services that I
can, like, play like, you know, in the background on my phone
while it's off. Yeah.
So Paramount, Amazon Prime and Hulu are like the big three.
That's still like that. Will let you play in background

(36:40):
mode. Yeah, yeah, if you have a
YouTube Premium account, you can.
You can do that there too. Yeah.
I'm not paying for YouTube then.No.
Just seems wrong. It does, right?
Yeah, yeah. Foul.
But anyway, that is it for trivia and one star reviews all.
Right. We're going to move on to the
better known as I know you. I knew.

(37:04):
I knew. I knew.
I knew. I knew, I knew.
All right, we will start off with the director as we normally
do. Ellery, LKM.
That's a fucking name. Yeah, yeah.
That sounds like a comic book name.
Like I'm pretty sure that was one of the, like, guys who,
like, was the Rhino and Spider Man.

(37:30):
This is probably the most notable thing he's ever done.
He directed a sequel to Without a Paddle, which I didn't
realize. Jesus, no.
Yeah, yeah, that wasn't even that good of a movie in the
first place. Without a paddle, yeah, no.
He directed to Return of the Living Dead sequels Necropolis

(37:52):
and Rave to the Grave Rose. Although I I do have a little
bit of hope for that remake that's coming out for Christmas
I think this year. Yes.
Can it be any worse than any of the other sequels we've gotten?
Like, no, yeah, yeah. I mean why remake it though?

(38:18):
I don't it's not necessarily a remake.
I think it's like in the same like universe.
I think it's just called Return of the Living Dead.
Yeah, it's, it's called Return of the Living Dead, but I I
think it's, it's like a sequel ish.
Not, not really. Like it's a reboot, not a remake
basically. Oh, all right.
We'll see. We'll see.
Well this shit is exhausting it.Just still blows my fucking mind

(38:38):
that like they like this perfectfucking movie they couldn't get
it like one sequel that gets anywhere near as good as the
first movie. I haven't seen any of the
sequels. Really don't, don't.
It's very we well, now that we've just said that we're.
Gonna have to. We're gonna turn living dead.
Part 2. I guess that's we're watching
next week, motherfucker. Yeah, like I'm I like, it's just

(39:03):
how many are. There like 8.
There's at least like I want to say, 4 numbered ones.
Oh God. And then there's like the other
ones with like the names like Necropolis and Rave to the
Grave. Real, real high rating on those.
Yeah, both of those came out thesame year, too.
That doesn't bode well. Yeah, now this is the, this is

(39:28):
the biggest thing he's ever. Done.
Yeah, it is. That's it.
Yeah. So we're going to move on from
there. Up next, David Arquette,
professional annoyance. I liked the the little
documentary thing with him doingpro wrestling.
Yeah, he got. Back into it.

(39:49):
Huge pro wrestling fan. Yeah, I am kind of jumping ahead
of the crapshoot again, but he was recently in the the Pee Wee
Herman documentary. Yeah, yeah, which was fucking
awesome. Yeah, I told you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is it like.We'll talk about it.
All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll bring it back. He is probably most well known

(40:11):
for being Dewey in the Scream movies.
Probably. I mean, other than that he's in
the original Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
He shows up in a lot of shit. Yeah.
Like, so you know him, but he's probably just most well known
for being David Arquette being weird, you know, quirky dude

(40:33):
from the Arquette acting family.Yeah.
I don't think a single one of them is like normal.
Bro, what's your name? No, the sisters seem normal.
Rosanna and Patricia. Do.
They, I can't say I know them. Yeah, they're not in the
tabloids a lot anyway. Yeah, it's true.

(40:57):
He's in so much shit and like none of it is like, known.
Yeah, 'cause it's all like crap.Yet you know him somehow.
Like from something? There's like.
He's in Pee Wee's big Holiday. Speaking of Pee Wee Herman the
weird, like. Yeah, I didn't love that.
Like I, I always get like, you know, I always love, like, the

(41:18):
whimsiness of it. But that was just, like, very
weird. Yeah.
It was basically just him, like being real life infatuated with
Joe Manganiello and, like, coming up with an excuse to,
like, be in a project with him. Yeah.
I think so. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
And. Have Joe Manganiello be obsessed
with him, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a bone
tomahawk, which is a fucking awesome movie.

(41:39):
It is really good. Better than the 7.1?
It's got IMDb right now. We've been scrolling forever and
we're only on 2015, no? TJ says hydrate.
There we go. These clubs really got on top of

(42:00):
me tonight, yeah. Yeah, Jesus Christ.
We. Just finished one of them.
I am most of the way through #2 yeah, again, he's in like a lot
of wrestling stuff. WWE.
He did like a couple of documentaries, you know, just
the one you just mentioned. Yeah, well, I think like any of

(42:23):
the the big shit that anybody knows from him was like mid late
80 or mid late 90s. Yeah, again, we're scrolling and
still like none of the shark boyand lava girl.
There you go. That was 2005.
Was that the? One that was Robert Rodriguez.
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was pretty good.

(42:45):
He was in the Howard Stern produced Son of the Beach
Paywatch spoof Johnny Queefer was this.
That show was unhinged. Yeah, yeah, it was any show that
has, like Hank the Angry DrunkenDwarf feeling like guest spots.

(43:07):
He's in 3000 Miles to Graceland.Ready to rumble?
Ready to rumble? Yes, yeah, the the wrestling
movie that he made, Well, he wasin it anyway.
Yeah, Muppets from Space, Never Been Kissed again.
All the Scream movies. Oh, he's in Airheads 1995.

(43:31):
Oh, that's right. Yeah.
He's like the, he's the dude whoworks in the radio station.
He's the blonde. Surfer dude, Yeah.
Yeah, that movie is a classic. Way better than a 6.2. 100%
yeah, that's an 8. A pimp to fart on a snare drum,
are you? Farting on a snare drum.
Here's it called the Lone Rangers.

(43:52):
There's three of you. Yeah, yeah.
We're going to move on. Up next, Carrie were who we have
talked about before she was in Anaconda.
That's probably what she's most like.

(44:12):
This Anaconda and thinner also, she's in that.
I remember seeing thinner, well maybe most of thinner when like
it first came out on like VHSI think my dad rented it.
I was not interested at all. Yeah, no, I never saw it.
We that came out when we were inhigh school.
Yeah, 96. So we must have been juniors.

(44:34):
And we had a we had a teacher. I won't say her last name, just
to like, not shit on this person'cause I'm sure she's long dead,
but she fucking stunk. And like Tom, you would, Tom was
the one who would fucking do this.
It was hilarious. Like when he would curse
somebody, he'd go, he'd say their name.
I almost said their name. Maybe he'd be like, you know,

(44:55):
like brush their face and the curse would be that you would
stink until you die anyway. Tom's.
Tom's wild man. We were fucking weird back in
the day. She's done a lot of voice work
for both DC and Marvel. She voices Maria Hill in a lot
of like the Marvel video games and animated stuff.

(45:20):
Silver Banshee in a Batman video, Marvel heroes Maria hill
again. Avengers Earth's mightiest.
Was this the good Avengers cartoon series?
No, no. Maybe.
No, I think this was the good one.
Yes, it is. This was only on for two

(45:43):
seasons. It was like a really good
Avengers cartoon. And then of course they took it
off because they wanted to like whenever like they do animated
series, they never really run for more than like two or three
seasons because they want to update it and sell different
toys basically. And this was like a really good
like Avenger. Like Marvel Animation has been

(46:03):
shit. Like I say that as a huge Marvel
fan. Like they've never had a good
animated project. Only with X-Men.
Yeah, like the X-Men and Spider Man 90s cartoons and that was
about it. Oh yeah.
She most likely auditioned for Maria Hill in the movies, but it
was really good. It was on.

(46:24):
It wasn't like the most obscure fucking not Boomerang.
It was like Disney XD or something like that.
Yeah, yeah. And just like I would TuneIn
every week on Disney XD and watch the show because it was it
was that. Good as a grown man.
Yeah, as an adult, this came outin 2010, so I was 31.

(46:45):
You're a Disney adult. Yeah, let's.
See, it was loud it. Was Carrie?
We don't need to talk about Carrie, Werr, because we've
talked about her already. We're going to move on.
Scarlett Johansson is in this movie.
Never heard of her. Yeah, you may have heard of some

(47:07):
of the roles she's been in. She's probably most well known
for being a Black Widow in the MCU.
The new Jurassic World that she's in looks.
Pretty fun. Yeah.
I like they're just going crazy and just we're throwing all
these fucked up crazy dinosaurs like.
Yeah, like. Nobody wants science, we just

(47:28):
want dinosaurs eating people. Yeah, yeah.
She's been on Saturday Night Live 6 times.
She's been on a couple times this past season.
It's been pretty funny. Oh really?
She's married to fucking Colin Jost and in the like in the joke
swap episode for Christmas. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

(47:48):
Fucking Michael Che wrote him a bunch of jokes about her and she
was there like and they kept cutting to her watching the
jokes on the screen like in the do.
I remember seeing clips of that.It's like.
The Arby's like roast beef. Oh God.
Anyway, she's been in like some really, really good movies too,

(48:14):
aside from like MCU stuff. JoJo Rabbit was really, really
good. That is a gut punch of a, of a
movie. Yeah.
No, there is a, there is an emotional gut punch you just
don't see coming. Then it just Wham, fucking nails
you. Yeah.
Goody goody goody. She's been in a couple music

(48:36):
videos where she's like the musician.
She's in the video with Pete Yorn.
I vaguely remember that. There's she did solo video too I
think. There you go Ash and sing the
singing porcupine. She was in Hail Caesar, which
was disappointing. So disappointing.

(48:57):
Yeah, wanted to like that so much more.
She's in Chef, which is a really, really good movie.
Is that the well, what the fuck's his name?
Gutter, Yeah. Jon Favreau.
Jon Favreau like as a like a a chef doing a food.
Truck thing, Yeah, it's him and John Leguizamo.
And he's like this like star chef and like has a fucking

(49:19):
meltdown one night and like fucking just attacks like this
food critic. Like a Like a chef will do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like he gets fired, like he
opens up a a fucking like food truck and like rediscovers like
why he loves to cook basically. OK.
It's it's a really fucking good movie and it I like wanted to
cook so bad after I like saw that movie.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what the bear does

(49:41):
to me. Yeah, same.
I have to cook so much after I watch the bear.
Yeah, let's see. I'm sure many of the dudes in
our audience have seen Under theSkin.
I have not reasons, they've seenthe stills anyway.
Jesus. Christ, she's been on 6 episodes

(50:03):
of Robot Chicken. That's pretty funny.
She's got a sense of humor, you know?
Yeah. She is in the Prestige 2006.
It's so good. That is so unbelievably fucking
good. Yeah, 8.5 that, that sounds
about right. I might go a little higher on
that. Fucking TJ.
She was in in good company with Dennis Quaid, brother to Chris's

(50:25):
man crush Randy Quaid. We'll see who's laughing when
it's me and Cousin Eddie in a hilarious panel.
Is it going to be hilarious because it's funny, or is it
going to be hilarious because it's an unhinged nut bag?
Yes. So, Randy, why don't you think
you have to pay taxes? So, sex slaves, what's up with

(50:47):
that? Oh, that's right.
Yeah. Fuck, I gotta remember that.
That'll go over well. Yeah, she's a Lost in
Translation with Bill Murray. That's 2003, which was a a
really, really good movie. Ghost World is a really good

(51:08):
movie too. Yeah, that was 2001.
It was that Thora Birch, Steve Buscemi.
Yeah. Somebody else big was in that, I
think. Those are the three on top.

(51:30):
Brad Renfro. Yeah, maybe I was thinking Brad
Renfro was. Good.
Anyway, Yeah, that's a good movie.
Yes, based on a comic comic. Book.
Yeah, Daniel Clowes. She's at home alone.

(51:50):
Disgusting. Her first appearance on TV was
an episode of Late Night with Conan O'Brien.
Weird 1994 Doug E Doug was Harlan the conspiracy theorist,
radio host, the Art Bell character.
Basically he's probably most well known for being in Cool

(52:14):
Runnings. He's one of the the Jamaican
bobsledders. He's like shown up in a ton of
shit over the years, like TV andmovies.
You've probably seen him in something.
He's in two episodes of Justified Law and Order.
He's in Shark's Tale. He's a voice in that he's in 95

(52:34):
episodes of Cosby. I'm sure he's got some things to
say. Yeah.
Maybe not. Yeah, I don't.
Know 'cause like all the other actors who were on like The
Cosby Show and they were like Bill was awesome.
Yeah, he was a nice. Guy, he was so good.
'Cause he didn't drink anything he made, he was in an episode of

(52:57):
Crutch, diagnosed his murder as himself.
Hey, yeah. And of course, cool rings.
He's in Doctor Giggles in 1992 the.
Movie sucks so bad. That was a back in the comic
book movie. He's also in class act in 92
with Kid and Play. I watched the shit out of that
when I was a kid. Oh, class act.

(53:19):
Yeah, he's in a third base video.
That's his first appearance. God damn. 1989 Up next, Rick
Overton, who I have done like four or five podcasts with over
the years. Fucking solid, solid dude.

(53:41):
I met him at fucking. What's the name of the?
IT was the comedy club at Meltdown Comics, the Nerd Melt
studio in Los Angeles. He was in the show there when he
was one of the comedians and like, we got to talk for a
little bit and then yeah, we him.
Tom and I would do podcasts every now and again and he was

(54:02):
always good to us. Like fucking Yeah.
Great fucking dude. He's I.
Feel like we talked about him atsome.
He's come up. He was in Cloverfield.
So yeah, he came up. Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, we don't have to talk about him too much.
But yeah, no, he's, he's a soliddude.
He's like, like he was there on the forefront of comedy in the
70s, like of like stand up and shit.

(54:22):
He was like friends with Robin Williams.
Like he was doing stand up at the time himself.
So yeah, like, he's also into like, really, really into making
miniatures. And like, Tom pulled that out of
somewhere. He must have done some research.
I had no clue. And like, him and Tom got
talking about like, making miniatures and stuff.
He's won like contests and stufflike dioramas.

(54:43):
And shit. Or like Warhammer.
Like like like for like movie sets and shit like that.
Like until we get started into it was like yeah, making like
dioramas and stuff. No, somebody got a commercial.
Are you for in Prince your again?
It's 5 bucks a month to not see commercials.

(55:04):
But yeah, no, he's always good to Tom and I and yeah, I've got
nothing, nothing bad to say about him.
Always a good always a good conversation.
Moving on, Leon Rippy, who's again one of those guys who's
just like in everything, you just see him and there's one
thing you know him from he was in Deadwood.
Tom not all he's in the like allof the series and he's in the

(55:27):
movie as well. I loved him in The Patriot.
Yeah, he's in the Patriot. That's like really, really good
movie. It's.
So good for. Just being American like
American Braveheart, like it's the.
Full Yeah yeah, well cuz Braveheart is amazing.
It's Braveheart with muskets. He just.
Changed the weaponry? Awesome.
I'm here for it. Some of the things he's been in

(55:50):
recently. The Blacklist, 11/22/63 Under
the Dome. He was in the Unfortunate Lone
Ranger movie with Johnny Depp and Armie Hammer.
I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it.
It was just like the most fucking mid thing I've ever.
Seen in my life when like I I like when I was a kid, I somehow

(56:11):
like loved The Lone Ranger. It must have just been on like
it. Was a fucking famous cowboy.
It was on Nick at night. So it was disappointing that
like, that wasn't a better fucking.
It's got a 6.4 on here. That's outrageous.
Yeah. So yeah, I like, I wanted more
out of that. I wish somebody would do
something cool with it. Let's see. 36 episodes of

(56:34):
Deadwood. Shows up in an episode of 6 Feet
Under. 4 episodes of Walker Texas Ranger. 13th Floor.
I think Craig Bierko was in thatmovie.
I have never seen it. Stargate. 2 episodes of

(56:54):
Diagnosis Murder. That's the same character.
Yeah, Bob Cole, also in a Perry Mason mystery in 1993.
I love it. Let's see.
And Young Guns too in 1990. Hi Bob.
Bye, Bob. So the guy he fucking, I think
Pibilio Estevez shoots him. Yeah. 2 episodes of Quantum

(57:18):
Leap. Star Trek, Next Generation King
Kong lives. There we go.
That's. Yeah, We talked about that movie
before. Yeah, I completely forgot we did
an episode on that. Maximum OverDrive and fucking

(57:38):
raw deal. Come on. 2 mid ass movies for
movies. Maximum OverDrive, The movie
that Stephen King doesn't remember because of cocaine.
Yeah. That's a lot of coke.
That is so much cocaine. A lot of cocaine.
Yeah. He's done a lot of Steven
Spielberg stuff. He's in.
I'm sorry, I was reading that he's a fire starter as well.

(58:00):
Yeah. All right, we're going to move
on. Up next, Eileen Ryan not.
Eileen Ryan. Yeah, I really only saved her
not because of anything she was in, but because of things that
were in her. Excuse me?
She is the mother of the Pen siblings Chris, Sean and

(58:23):
Michael. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesus. Yeah.
What a weird way to say that I. Can spice things up here a
little bit, you know, But she's been in some stuff over the
years. Oh, she's in Benny and June.
Yeah, not the seller's shorts. She's in Benny and June, Grey's
Anatomy. We'll just do a quick couple of
things. Private practice, yeah, and like

(58:49):
it freaks moving on CSI there we.
Go Oh, I am Sam. Oh, yo, you never go full.
Yeah, yeah. And last up, Tom Noonan we added
here at the last minute. I just realized he was in
Monster Squad. Yeah.
Which we were just watching before the movie started.
The show started. This is another dude you just

(59:10):
know from something. Probably most famously he was
the Ripper in Last Action Hero. It's probably the biggest thing
you remember him from. He's an 18 episode the 12
Monkeys series which I didn't watch but movie was pretty good.
Oh, they made a roadside picnic TV series.
I don't know that. I don't know what that is.

(59:32):
We'll get into it in the crapshoot.
All right, he was in Horace and Pete.
That was like the web series that Bill Burr and Louis CK
made. He's in 18 episodes of Hell on
Wheels, which looked good. I just never got into it.
It was, until it wasn't. Like.

(59:53):
The first couple of seasons werelike.
Rad. It's about like the building,
the railroads and stuff, right? Yeah.
And it's just it, I don't know, it's just like they were like,
how do we make it bigger? Like you don't need to just make
it good. Yeah, exactly.
Let's see. He's in Louis.
The TV series Hatch and the Devil.

(01:00:14):
That was a pretty good movie. That's a Ty West movie, one of
his early ones. Was it Synecdoche, New York?
That's Charlie Kaufman, I believe.
Yeah, not a lot here. Yeah, but we've talked about him
already. So you're right, we have.
So we're gonna end things there and move on to the crapshoot.

(01:00:43):
Oh, he's a real genius. Which is also an awesome movie,
so. Oh, Roadside Picnic.
We're like right there. Roadside Picnic is the book that
was the inspiration for the movie Stalker and which was the

(01:01:06):
inspiration for the video game Stalker.
OK, OK. But the book is called Roadside
Picnic and it's like drasticallydifferent from both of those
other things. So I'm interested if that TV
series was more like the book. I would assume so 'cause it

(01:01:28):
shares the title. Yeah, yeah.
But that's the book that I read on the the travel segments of my
vacation. All right, It's pretty good.
Like it's not it wasn't like blowing my mind, but it was
pretty entertaining. It has a very non ending ending
though, so basically like the guy goes after a thing, gets to

(01:01:55):
thing and then it just kind of cuts all right.
But worth the worth the trip. It's a it's a pretty good book.
I have seen a shit ton of moviesover the past two weeks.
This weekend, Friday night, I saw Ballerina John Wick spin
off, which is pretty good. Is it pretty much a John Wick

(01:02:17):
movie? Yeah, it's John Wick with Anna D
Aramis instead of Kean. I mean, Kean Reeves even shows
up for a couple of scenes. But you know, fucking awesome
action. Like, cool, you know,
choreography. Yeah, I guess he actually had
input on like the ending of thatmovie.
Yeah, he is part of the ending. Yeah.
Yeah. So yeah, that's pretty cool.
Yeah. I think John Wick is part of the
ending is what I'm trying to say.

(01:02:40):
And yeah. And then the RMS is pretty good
in it. So yeah, I know.
I hope they do another one. They left it open.
Yeah. Saturday night we went and saw
Dangerous Animals. It looked it, it.
It looked probably able to say it looked pretty good.
I didn't really know much about it.
It's like a Shutter movie that like, you know, got released.
Yeah. With Jai Courtney, who was like

(01:03:03):
Captain Boomerang in the SuicideSquad, he was in Terminator
Genesis. Yeah, I'm trying to think of
something else he was in. Like, I can't right now.
But he's like a serial killer and like, he kills people.
Like he he's also like a like a tour guide for like shark boats
kills people by feeding them to sharks while they're alive.

(01:03:23):
It's pretty fucking it's pretty good.
It's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I I recommend Hey,
can wait for streaming, but yeah, no, I recommend it.
It was it was pretty good. All right.
Yeah, you were telling me there's some like Tulsa King
stuff? Yes.
A good day. Oh, he's in a good day to die
hard if that. Don't hold that against them.
That was not a good movie. Oh, the guy was in the Divergent

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series as well. OK, it's supposed to be on the
other screen. They, I just read this before as
I was setting up the computer. That's why I had the article
open. Yeah, they're setting up a spin
off. Oh, no, no.
No, dude, it gets better. It gets better than just hang
with me it wait for it. They're setting it up in Season
3. It's going to star Samuel L

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Jackson. Why?
It's going to be called Nola King.
Get out. Get out.
I can't wait for this fucking show.
I want to die. It's gonna be so bad.
It's so good. No, no, no, no, because Sam

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Jackson can actually act. I don't know.
I'm gonna. They're giving us more of the
Tulsa King universe like that can't be bad it.
Can. It can.
And you know why it can? Because like, they could lean
into the fact that everybody knows that this show sucks.
That would be bad, yeah. That I would say that would be
bad, yeah. I.

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Think that's what they're gonna do?
But I oh God, because yeah, somebody gave me some antoufave
like I hope it is the opposite of Tulsa King in that like Tulsa

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King has to be good. It has like a supporting cast of
good actors that are propping upthe main actor who's not the
greatest actor in the world. Where I really hope this Nola
King show is going to be like opposite Sam Jackson just
holding up this cast of shitty like fucking second.

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Really. I have faith this is going to be
good in one way or another. When the when the fuck does that
happen? They're setting it up in this
new season. So like, it's oh.
So they're going to ship fuckingslur face up to NOLA.
And I guess Samuel L Jackson's going to be like a crime king in

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New Orleans. Oh my God, yes.
I didn't know what I thought. OK, so if I have to, if I have
to, like, think about it in my head.
So at the end of last season, hegot taken by the CIA and they're
going to use him to try to pinchSam Jackson, and that's going to

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introduce his character. Maybe and.
That's going to fall apart and he's going to like double cross
like CIA. Sam Jackson's like an old, like,
mob friend of his and like, you know, he's reaching out for some
reason. Oh God, it's going to be so bad.
I think it's going to be so bad.It'll be enjoyable.

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As is Tulsa King. Well that's the reason Tulsa
King is so good. It's fucking trash.
Sorry, I'm looking at my movie history because I know I've seen
like a bunch of movies recently,but yeah, yeah, I, I got so
excited when I saw that. I, I please.

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I just need it to be entertaining.
I don't need it to be good. I I don't want it to be good, I
want it to be stupid. I don't want them to try to make
like, like lean into the the fucking.
The absurdity of Tulsa King No, just keep doing what you keep
thinking. You're making a good show.
Just do that. Christ, yeah, but we went to

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Myrtle Beach last week and we had a really good time.
Saw all the, you know, like the typical touristy stuff like went
to the aquarium, saw the the Wonderworks, like the upside
down building that's there. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's it was so fun I. Was looking like you guys were
having a blast. Yeah, we were having a really
good time. It was just relaxing.

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Like we went without the kids, met up with my dad and my
stepmom for, you know, like a day and 1/2 or whatever, which
is a really good time. Turns out the so the act of
actually like flying uncool takes take off in landings.
Not really my jam. Not really my jam.

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Yeah, especially when the the you can feel the plane bounce
side to side like when it lands.Do not like.
I like I usually try to go to sleep immediately and there's
always a moment during take off specifically where I swear to
God it feels like we're doing a barrel roll.
Like I don't know what the fuck I think it is because of the
tipping side to side but I'm just like did the plane just

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fucking roll over because I havemy eyes closed during the whole
time? Like, I swear to God, we just
did a barrel roll. Yeah.
I don't mind flying. Like it's it's I actually I.
I got used to it. Yeah, I hate the experience of
it just being, like, herded likecattle from like, place to place
and like, shoved into an uncomfortable, like, you know,
compartment. Yeah, no, we got pretty lucky

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though. Like we didn't.
So we had layovers, but the layovers weren't like insane.
They weren't like a it was like a six hour layover and no.
No, that's fine. I want like a good like 2 to 3
hour layover so I can get drunk in the interval in between.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also hate, like, having to
fucking dash, like for planes. Like, I've done that plenty of

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times. Yeah.
So like, I'll just take my time.Oh look, a bar.
Let's go get a drink. Yeah, All right, let's head to
the gate. Oh, we'll look, another bar.
Let's stop and get a drink. Yeah, yeah.
That sounds expensive. After the second or third one,
you don't care? No.
Is that what it is? Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I'm. Drunk is fun too.
It was. It was fun.

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Just like we went Sunday to Wednesday.
Excuse me. When we came home, we took took
a little family trip to Six Flags New England.
All right? Yeah.
I went down South and did not get sunburn.
I went to Massachusetts. Got roasted fried.
Let me guess, was it a grain overcast out?

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No. Oh.
Really. Well, a little bit, but I I
just, I spent too much time in between coats of sunscreen and
you also. Look like an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet
of paper. Yeah, that is true White.
I am burnt. I can feel the texture of my

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T-shirt today. Yeah, I I've had my thing going
on as well. It's been fun.
What? Oh, I saw bring her back last
week. That was pretty fucking intense.
That's. What I've been hearing.
Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. It looks good, yeah.

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I just haven't gotten around to it.
Yeah. It does a really good job of
giving me the creepy like what the fuck is happening feeling.
I love that. Yeah, yeah.
That is, that's, that's what I want in order.
Like I, I've said this a milliontimes, like I love the blood and
guts and all that stuff, but like it, I'm moving from that.

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Like that's not what I want so much anymore.
I want to feel like. Give me an impact.
I want to feel creeped out, I want to feel uncomfortable.
I want, but I want it to make sense, right?
Like that's why long legs suckedbecause like they could make you
feel like creepy and uncomfortable, but like the
movie didn't make a lick of fucking sense and it was like a

(01:11:17):
terrible time watching it. So like, you got this right, but
everything else you got wrong. You know where what I'm looking
for is like, you know, the original Conjuring where like
it's just like creepy moment, creepy moment.
And it just like builds and builds and builds and then you
get the payoff. I like the the scene in the

(01:11:38):
original Conjuring like that. I remember the like, it just
creeped me the fuck out. Is the hands coming out of the
wardrobe and clapping? Yeah, like, simple.
It's simple and it's so effective.
Yeah. Yeah.
'Cause you're, you're imagining like being her and then like

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you're like waiting for your kids to clap to find them and
then like it's right behind you and like, I love that you like
you could see her fucking hair move with a clap too.
And it was like. It also makes you think like how
many times in my life have I mayhave heard like a sound that I
thought for sure was something but didn't realize it might have
been like created supernaturallylike.

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Yeah. Yeah, fuck.
Yep. So, you know, as much of A of a
gore hound as I've always kind of been, this is my, my taste
these days is just like, make mecreeped out, make me
uncomfortable because like, that's, that's what's giving me
that fucking dopamine hit, you know?
Chasing the Dragon Man. Really.

(01:12:49):
Like I, I think I'm just desperate for TV shows.
I started and I'm actually into The Walking Dead Dead City.
It is. I like it.
It's set in Manhattan, which is kind of cool.
I like it because it's not like it's not like The Walking Dead,
which is basically a soap opera with zombies, like where every

(01:13:10):
episode was just like, you know,OK, there's a it ends in a
cliffhanger, the next episode answers the cliffhanger and then
just builds up to the next cliffhanger without.
Actually, it's all just interpersonal conflict with
zombies. Yeah, yeah.
And this one is just more like it's, I think the first season
is like 8 episodes. I think the second season is
like maybe just as much so it just gets right to the fucking
story. Like it is none of that

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bullshit. So it's actually pretty
entertaining. It's just Maggie and Negan, like
in Manhattan, looking for Maggie's kid.
And, like, they run into this dude who, like, Negan knows
from, like, back in the day. Like, it's just, it's pretty
good somehow. Yeah.
Whatever, I don't care. I'm not going to watch it.
Yeah, so I started, I started watching that.
I'm almost done with the first season.

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It's entertaining, kills an hourhere and there.
I also, I started watching this when it first came out and like
wasn't blown away. And then in the past week, I
like, I started watching it again and now I'm fucking
hooked. Is that mobland show on on
Paramount Plus? Oh, really?
Yeah, with like, Pierce Brosnan and Tom Hardy.

(01:14:13):
Is it the one you? Yeah, 'cause it's like you were
saying it was giving you a little bit of that Tulsa King
fix. No, no, yeah, no, it wasn't
that. What was that other one?
Oh, that was Lioness. Oh yeah, yeah.
And I haven't watched that in months.
I felt right the fuck off of that.
Yeah. But no, this like it actually.
Yeah. It's like the Irish.
Well, it's set like Pierce Brosnan is Irish.

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So it's like British and Irish mob shit.
Yeah. It's like produced by fucking
Guy Ritchie. OK, Yeah, it was I I the first
like 3 episodes I was like. And then after episode 3, I'm
like, all right. Fuck it up now.
Like I'm a fan of all three of those names, so.
Yeah, yeah. So I I recommend it.
It might be a little bit of a slow start, but it picks up and
it's really good. Oh, so you you watch the Pee Wee

(01:14:59):
documentary series? Yes, that was really good, man.
Like, I didn't know that Paul Reubens was like that deeply
artistic. Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like I knew, you know, to to be able to have that like Pee Wee
character and you know, all the the crazy sets and the cartoons
and stuff, like the guy likes, you know, like avant-garde

(01:15:21):
stuff. But like, I never knew he was
that deep into it. Yeah, like kitschy, like, yeah,
you see, you know, mid century type of shit.
And like, yeah, like that was kind of cool.
Like I hope they do open like a museum with all of his stuff
like that. Like he they were talking about
it in the documentary. But like the thing like that
really fucking broke my heart. Is that like, you know the thing

(01:15:41):
like where he gets caught beating off in a theater like
which he said like I didn't evendo.
I just had to plead no contest to like, avoid the trial.
And then, like the child porn thing, which, like, which
wasn't, yeah, clearly, like, they were just going after him.
Like, the dude wanted to make a name.
And like, you know, there's thatrecording of the day before he
died. And like, on this dude's
deathbed, he's still fucking thinking about that.

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Like, you know, it's still consuming him.
Like, it's fucking heartbreaking.
This dude is like just wanted tomake people happy, like make
kids happy, like, you know? Well, there's that.
And then like the the entire concept of him, like I just
won't have personal relationships.
Like like the the pee wee thing was such a big deal for him.

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And like being pee wee and beinglike an entertainer and like an
educator for kids, like was so important to him.
Like he was just like, well, I'll just focus on that.
And then like, I'm out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
'Cause like, if you really like watch the show, it was Mr.
Roger's neighborhood. But just for.

(01:16:45):
For weird kids, yeah. Yeah, like.
It was so fucking good. Yeah.
And what's your name was? Was it?
Oh God, the one who was in. Natasha Lyonne.
Yeah, yeah, she's one of the kids.
Yeah. She's.
One of the kids and she's like, I had the time of my life.
I after I watched that, it must have been like one of those

(01:17:05):
weird, like, you know, everything's tracking you type
of suggestions. Yeah.
There is a Twitch channel calledPee Wee Herman TV that just
streams Pee Wee's Playhouse all day.
Yeah. So I've been watching that like
here and there and it's just fucking comfort food.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, he'll just, you know, do like, it's just him being goofy.
And then like, old weird cartoons that are like, I didn't
really appreciate it. There was like the where, like,

(01:17:27):
when I was a kid, like another one of these weird cartoons.
But like, now they're fucking awesome.
Like, I love them, Yeah. Because he also did all the what
the hell did they used to call them?
But they're like, they're like, this is how to be a good kid.
You know, like videos and stuff like this is how you're a bad
kid. Yeah, but yeah, no, I've, we, we

(01:17:49):
followed it on the big dumb monster Switch account because I
just throw it on and it's just like comfort food, like
everything is right for a littlewhile.
Yeah, I yeah, like I had assumedlike his life was like, all
right, especially with all the controversy and shit, because
and he and he bounced back from a lot of that stuff, but like.
I had no idea. Yeah, on this on the face

(01:18:10):
anyways. I mean, like, he's fucking dying
and still saying like, I didn't do these things, like talk.
It's just heartbreaking. Yeah.
But that that was like, it's fucking long.
But it's worth the watch. Yeah, it was.
It's almost 4 hours, Yeah, almost 3 hours I think. 2
episodes out, about an hour and a half I think.

(01:18:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, he was longer 'cause it was like the first one
was like an hour and a half. I think the second one was like
an hour and 45 minutes or so. So yeah, like 315.
But he was so fucking funny. Yeah.
Like during those interviews where he's like giving the
producer. Shit, he's being funny.
Yeah, but you? Can't tell.
He's like, oh, is he like actually upset in this moment or

(01:18:50):
oh, wait, no, he. Just 'cause it seems like he's
upset and then he'll, like, crack a little smile like, oh,
motherfucker, yeah. He got me.
Yeah. Everything was just so good.
Yeah, no, highly, highly recommend watching that.
Yeah. Anything else I reading more of
that Conan and Leno book. Oh.
You're not just. That yet?
Dude, it's like 400 pages. Oh, Jesus, That's going to be a

(01:19:11):
while. It is somehow fascinating just
reading like, just like behind the scenes, like, yeah, TV
executive. Politics.
Yeah, yeah, just how like basically NBC like and a series
of like hedged bets basically ended up fucking themselves.

(01:19:32):
Oh really? With the this whole shitty
situation, like yeah. Well, they wound up paying both
of them at the same time for a while, didn't they?
Yeah, yeah. Because they had already like,
basically what they did was like, they like they didn't want
Conan to leave, so they promisedhim The Tonight Show, even
though, like, Jay wasn't ready to leave.
Like they didn't tell Jay about it and like, they're just like,

(01:19:53):
OK, what we'll do is just we'll tell Jay this is his last
contract and like, he'll be finewith it.
He's not fine with it. Yep.
Yeah, yeah. So it's it's like, like I said,
it's it's like the most mundane shit, but it's somehow
fascinating. Yeah.
Yeah. Contract disputes.
Yeah. I work in contracts that I I

(01:20:14):
shouldn't be reading about contracts in my free time, but I
am and I'm somehow enjoying it. Yeah, wild.
Let's see. Do we do anything else?
Do we watch anything else? It's yeah, like it's the usual
shit comics. I don't think I've been
anywhere. No, you didn't go any fucking

(01:20:37):
four-star restaurants around here or nothing.
I have actually. Of course you did.
Yeah, fucking War Room. Thumbs up.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess that's it.
Wrap it up. I think so.
I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Push it in an hour and a half. Yeah, why that?
Whatever. All right, we'll give some

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