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July 21, 2025 43 mins

In the special segment "Today I Learned," Laura and Shanna discuss the intriguing things they have learned recently related to the world of parenting, including a mind-blowing fact about fetal DNA and the "otherworldly" origins of a popular personality assessment. Also, Shanna talks about her quest to celebrate her birthday while managing a migraine, and Laura reports on juggling work deadlines and child care during her 6-year-old's summer break. Finally, the moms share their BFPs and BFNs for the week. Shanna's kids are 6.5 and 9 years old, and Laura’s kids are 6 years old and 4 years old.


Topics discussed in this episode:

-How to treat yourself on your birthday when you are a mom and have a migraine

-Balancing work deadlines and parenting when you don't have child care

-Does fetal DNA remain in a birth mom's bloodstream?

-How do fetal stem cells in a birth mom's bloodstream benefit the mother?

-What is the Cosmic Laboratory of Baby Training?

-One of Shanna's new favorite picture books for kids

-A thought-provoking idea that Laura came across in a fellow mom's Substack


Products, links, and resources mentioned in this episode:

-Burke Williams Day Spa

-Non-Invasive Prenatal Test (NIPT)

-The Cosmic Laboratory for Baby Training

-Myers-Briggs Type Indicator

-"The Personality Brokers: The Strange History of Myers-Briggs and the Birth of Personality Testing" by Merve Emre

-Maintenance Phase podcast's episode on the Myers-Briggs Personality Test

-"Buffalo Fluffalo" by Bess Kalb and Erin Kraan

-Bess Kalb's Substack - "The Grudge Report"

-Kira Cook's Substack - "The Way We Weren't"


Past BFP episodes mentioned in this episode:

-Ep. 367 (For Shanna's mammogram/breast biopsy check-in)


This episode's full show notes can be found here.


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