Pluto Ep 4 Pt 2: Inferiority Complex

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Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy.
I'm Caitlin. And I'm Fiora.
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epic discussion of Pluto the series and today we will be
concluding episode 4, which is the. 33%.
Done with the series. Mark Woo officially his math.
We figured out the math. Well, Caitlin did.
Yes. All right, bye.
Before we get into the episode, we finally have winners for our

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You've we, there are so many people who have spent so much

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future. OK.
Do you want to announce who on what?

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We never even talked about the what part but you, I'm going to
say a name and you just hold up whatever you want.
So. First, we're going with the mug.
Woo. Well, I don't have the actual
mug. This is the box that will come
in and I don't know if I showed you guys, we showed you guys
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I don't know that they're holding the mug you're getting,
but they've held a similar item that could.
You imagine they make them hold every single mug.
Out. They have to bless each item.
OK, Caitlin, who won the mug? The winner of the mug is.

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Pooja S woo yay pooja. So this.
Hope you enjoyed. It and mug is coming to you.
No, just the empty box. Just the empty box and the card
from No David Film. All right.
And and our second winner. Our scented candle.

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Jackie S Woo Hoo. All right, that's Jackie S The
two of you have not been contacted yet.
You will be as of this releasing.
But just in case that they don't, we do have backups, but
those are our winners. So congratulations to the 2.
Yay, congratulations. And like you said, we'll be back

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to do more stuff. We might do our merch as a
giveaway. We'll do.
We'll see. We're going to see.
Listen, if somewhere somehow sells Piggy, that's happening.
Who wants Piggy? Let us know if you don't.
If you didn't read the book, youhave no idea who Piggy is yet.
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That's all I'm saying. If we could give away Beyoncé,
we thought we would. God, we can't do.
That anyway thank you guys let us know what you.
Want us to give away? Let us throw in the comments.
OK? O, now that we've gave our good
news, we'll go straight into ourcorrections and clownery
section. Section O.

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We got a couple of writings fromPatreon on our last eisode and
both of them deal with the same thing.
So I'm just going to read them both and then we'll talk about
it. So first is from Nat B, who
wrote your thoughts on the themeof warmth in this episode.
Got me thinking of the name Ayoun.
I believe it means warm slash, warmth and Thai, which I think

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could have been deliberate on the author's part.
Just a quick thought and not sure if anyone has mentioned it
before. Love your breakdowns on the
series. It's one of my favorites.
That was real sweet. OK then.
So yeah, I did hear that and I just forgot that that's what I
means. But yeah, it's it's true.
And so I think that in the last episode there was that was the

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basically like you make my make me feel warm, make my heart warm
kind of thing. And like, so it's a play on her
name, which I think is really cute.
And then we have a second write in from Wordspin, who is
basically expanding on what Nat wrote.
So Wordpin writes fun fact, the name Ayun is rooted in the Thai
word I, that I get UN meaning warm.

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But it's more than just a description of temperature.
It carries a soft, comforting feeling, like the gentle heat of
sunlight or the embrace of a blanket.
If that doesn't describe I, whatdoes?
I'm. Sorry, first of all, where'd you
be? Where'd you pin?
You're going to just have beep pin now you are writing like I
wrote. This.

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Not I. It's beautiful.
It's poetic, yes, it's beautiful.
Oh it's so good. OK, wait, words bring continues.
So when May says quote, it makesmy heart feel warm.
End Quote. You can see I sit up a little
and ask her to repeat it. Not because she wanted to hear
the words again, but because forthe first time she hears her
name coming from May's mouth. Not Oh shit, I didn't even catch

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that. Damn, we're.
That, that was. As soon as I saw that I was like
oh shit, I was so dumb for saying that.
Language barriers, man. So, yeah, that makes sense to
say What? You know what?
She does know who you are. I That's the whole thing anyway.
So we're just thinking to news. In that moment, I isn't just.

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Oh, I already said that. Yeah.
In that moment, I isn't just hearing her name.
She's understanding what it means to someone else and maybe
even to herself for the first time.
By choosing the name Ayun, whichcan be loosely translated as the
warmth I breathe or a breath of warmth, her character becomes a
symbol of quiet comfort. Someone who doesn't shine
loudly, but brings a calm, subtle warmth to the lives of

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others. Even when she feels invisible,
May notices. And in that moment, I finally
sees that she's warm too. God damn it, that was so fucking
good. I know, right?
Damn, you should. Get your own stuff like I was
like. All of you should be on here.
Right. What the hell?
No, it's great. Thank you.
That was so beautiful and it really does contextualize that

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scene and like thank you for putting out shit we missed.
Like I mean we do talk for many hours, but still like so we
still manage to this shit. So thank you for explaining
that. That's really beautiful and it
just makes me laugh. I more honestly which I didn't
think was possible. That it just, it adds so much
more depth to that scene. It does like that beautiful

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scene that we talked so long about.
But like, I wouldn't put it pastChow to do that on purpose with
the name Play because she does tend to pick names that have to
do with the character, like Playing's name had something to
do with music and so that would make sense.
What does Abu mean? Does it mean destroyer of lives?

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Destroyer of lives? Oh my God that's awful.
Especially when. We get to OK, but like OK, and I
don't mean that against SHO Oom because SHO oom I love the most,
but like novel Oom was a piece of work.
So I just, you know. Does Abu mean the devil?

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Who knows. We're still getting there.
I still have. To yeah.
Was that the inspiration for Satan?
Who knows, yes, we will get there eventually when I start to
write the novel. OK, thank you.
Please continue to write in to us.
We really appreciate it and we will give you a full shout out
like we just did when we record our next episode.
Sometimes there might be a delay, sometimes it's right

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away. Just kind of depend you.
Can you see our recording schedule right now?
It's a little rushed, but OK. Thank you everybody.
We appreciate the corrections and helping us learning.
We all see new insight into the scenes, so we appreciate that.
So with that, let us get into Part 3 of episode 4, which

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starts with the most explicit sex scene I've ever seen in a
Thai girl live, which is OfficerHottie doing paying.
That's how we start this episode.
I was not expecting that, no at all.
Yep. That's what's happening.
And to break down this scene, Officer Hottie's doing her thing

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and Pain can't get off because she's not into Officer Hottie
anymore. And that's just the crux of
this. And this has nothing to do.
Sorry, go ahead. It's just a crime that you're
not into, officer. I understand though, but like.
I don't understand, but I understand.
Her feelings are valid, I just in general.
Yeah, her feelings are valid. And it this isn't saying it's

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not that Officer Hottie can't please a woman.
Just look at her it this is a paying problem.
Paying has an emotional and mental block.
So it's just not going to happen.
It's basically how that works. So paying calls it off.
She's like listen, it's not going to happen.
Which also valid like know your body know when something is and

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isn't going to happen. And Officer Hadi looks
disappointed because, you know, she gets it.
She's a woman. And then she asks paying, is
there something on your mind? Because she's having a mental
block. And it's pretty obvious.
And paying admits it. Like she nods, but then does not
expand on what the mental block is.

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And Officer Honey doesn't push her on like, what's bothering
you? Instead she goes into like, fix
it mode, which I think is her response to like, problem must
fix problem. Like that's kind of how she
operates. So paying has a problem, must
fix problem. So basically she consoles paying
a little bit and she's like, everything's going to be fine.

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Everything's OK. And if you look at paying like
it's not really working, she's like just so distracted and you
just see it on her face. And then Officer Heidi's like,
I'll up the affection to make you feel better because I think
it's like, this is what she would want.
So she's like trying to do it. And so she like gives paying
like a sniff kiss. And then that causes pain to
smile. That's distracting enough to

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where she like gets out of her head for like a second.
And I don't think that that's a way that paying is like, Oh, I'm
into you again. I think that's more of a like
they have they have some kind ofemotional connection and I think
it's just for paying has become platonic.
But it's still there in the factthat like Officer Hottie can

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still make her smile and feel better like as a friend.
It's just Officer Hottie doesn'tknow that yet.
But look at Officer Hottie she looks so cute all she just As
for officer hottie, she really needs someone to love her the
way that she. Loves with her whole.
Self. It is such a crime that she's
signal at the end of the show. I don't understand that she

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could have been with whom? I don't get it.
It's. Just kind of like she was an
afterthought. This whole time absolutely sad.
Because even the production has her ass.
Listen, she got pluted by production, which is fun.
Pluted by production. So OK, so then Officer Hottie
UPS her game. She's like, OK, you're smiling.
Great. I'm going to go get you comfort

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food in the form of kanji. OK, So then she, like, goes to
go do that, basically, which, again, Officer Hadi's just being
really sweet and trying her bestto just fix the situation and
make Pang feel better. That's her only foe.
And then she's like, if Pang feels better, we can get back on
track. That's kind of her motivation.
But then the second officer, Hadi, is gone.

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Pang lunges for her cell phone because, like, this is where her
head was at the whole time. She was distracted.
She wanted to check on something, I assume I related.
And that's where her brain was at the whole time.
And the minute she has the opportunity to like, do it, she
lunges like for the phone. And then, as if she summoned
her, there's a knock at the door.

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Pang goes to answer it, and she finds a really animated I at the
door who's like, paying. Help me.
I need your, you're the only onewho can help me.
And then we cut away from that. I just look like this is a
constant thing now in this show because this is not the first

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time we've seen. I just show up randomly 2 pangs
house and just let her like justimmediately help me.
I mean, yes, she's always seeking help from paying because
like, I think that we're establishing that, like, OK,
they've been friends for a really long time, and then this
is paying, this is AI's best friend.
Like when something's wrong, shegoes and talks to paying.

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Like that's the person she confides in.
And then it's going to get weirdin this scene because of what
she's confining in her about. But we also saw the reverse
where like paying will just showup at eyes on an out.
So it's like that's part of their friendship, you know?
OK, so let me cut away from those two to see what Officer
Hottie is doing. So Officer Hottie goes to her
favorite street food vendor to get the kanji.

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And today really is not her day because the vendors like,
listen, today was Kanji day apparently, and I only have
enough for one serving. I can't get you 2.
And she's like fuck, because shestarts like berating herself
because she's like fuck, like her whole she's like, well, if I
don't get the kanji, I can't fixPang.
But at least she can get one survey.
So she could still feed Pang, but then they can't do it

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together. And she's like damn it, if I got
here earlier, blah blah blah. And then somebody behind her is
like, you can have mine. And lo and behold, it's Jan,
because Officer Honey cannot escape Jan's orbit for some
reason. No, there's like a tracker on
her and like it's a magnet. Listen, it's just, it's a lot.

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The way Jan just appears, it's. Gravity they just she's like, I
don't know, that's not the rightthat's good.
She's. Orbiting Pang is the real thing,
because where are they? They're our Pangs department.
OK, so, but question number one is, well, why does Jan have
extra kanji? She's just one of those people

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who's like, I'll buy it all now and I'll reheat it and eat it
later. Relatable girl.
You're there at the street vendor.
But that's not why she doesn't. She's like, well, I've gotten in
the habit of buying extra for OOM, which I found really sweet,
OK, Because like, OK, the way they're using kanji is amazing,
first of all. But the way they're using it in
these scenes is it's like a comfort food, right?

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That's why Officer Hot is like you're not feeling well, I'll go
get you this comfort food, right.
So I wonder if like Jan used to do this to cheer up OOM when OOM
because we've seen we we will get into Oom, but OOM does not
is not always like sunshine and rainbow.
So I wonder if like that was Jan's way of cheering up her
best friend, you know, And then that's just a habit.
Was Oom so sad all the time. Extra for Oom.

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Well, that's very sad. Right now, the darkness.
Of OOM, it shows like how true of a friend that Jan is that
she's still buying extra food for UMM just out of habit.
But it's like so sad because nowshe's like staring at this extra
food and she's like, Oh, my bestfriend is in a coma.

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Yeah, no, that's really fucking shitty.
Or I also wonder if like Jan just like that was the thing
that her and UMM always did liketogether.
Like maybe that's how they got, they did their catch up sessions
after she like was done flying around and like she was just
like oh man, this is what me andUMM used to do.
And it's just she's used to UMM being there.
Like that's really sad. We don't really get sadness from

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Jan going forward about UMM, butshe must be sad about it because
UMM was like so close to her as what it seems like.
I mean you never know and could magically wake up from a coma,
be released from the hospital and show up randomly, so she has
to have extra just in case that happens.
Could be, I think it's it's an unconscious thing is what she's

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saying. She's like, I'm just used to it
and I just forgot it wasn't here.
Yeah, I was mostly joking, but Ido love how she is.
She's not sad when she says any of this, and she's just her
bubbly self. And the way that she says she
just talks about, umm, to Officer Hadi, she's like, you

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know, the one in that car accident and the reason I needed
to get evidence from you. It's just like the nonchalant
about like, you know, breaking and entering into the Police
Department to get evidence that she's not supposed to have.
And she's. Just like, yeah, you remember.
That time, you know how we keep meeting and you know it's all
because of her. It's.

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Because of OOM. The shadow of OOM.
All right, so then, yeah, Jane is like explaining she's like,
don't worry, I'm totally not stalking you.
I'm here to see one of my regular clients.
OK, so I found this is really interesting that basically
because like, what did Officer Hidey do?
Officer Hidey like left Pang's apartment to go to the street

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vendor. So I mean, the conclusion is
that this vendor is near Pang's apartment.
So Jan is saying that I'm seeingone of my regulars, meaning she
comes here often to see this oneclient on a regular basis.
So here's Jan orbiting Pang again, because it's Pang's
apartment, not Officer Hidey. But Officer Hidey keeps getting

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pulled into the gravity of thesetwo against her will, and I find
it really interesting that Jan has been near Pang's apartment
for so long but never ran into her organically like Pang's,
almost like her Pluto. Like she's near Pang but Pang
can't see her which is interesting.

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That is interesting. Yeah, but it's Officer Hottie
that brings them kind of closer than later.
I poor Officer Hottie. All right, so then like, OK,
then Officer Hadi's like, oh God, with the fortune telling
again, she's like clearly not somebody who's into it, doesn't
buy into it because truly, like Officer Hadi strikes me as the

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type of person that like needs to be in control and wouldn't
leave things up to chance. Hence, like pangs, like I'm
upset Officer Hadi's like, I will fix it.
Like I need to control the situation.
So I I wonder if that's like part of her inversion to like
fate and things like that. That would be out of her ability
to like influence. I She also seems like someone

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who needs proof and, like, concrete evidence to know that
it's true. Like, can't just believe without
seeing it. Yeah.
That's also valid. So Jan tries to change her mind
by reading Officer Hadid filth, which what a way to execute
this. And she's like, you're having

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marital problems, all right? Officer Hadi.
And I'm sorry he's like damn girl, you can tell that by loose
looking at me. Does my face scream puppy that
was just kicked? Like that's so sad.
It is and it does because she has been kicked for a while now.
Because. This.
Poor puppy. It's not fair to the puppy, but

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Jan's like, listen, it's not that you look like a kick puppy,
but let me let me explain my rationale to you.
So basically she put, she explains how she put together
that Officer Heidi's having relationship issues.
She's like, well, you're not near your home because your home
is next door to me and you're not near the police precinct,
which is where you work and you're buying 2 meals, which I

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conclude means date, but said date is not here.
So that means you're fighting. And it's like great job Jan, you
are correct. But also like you just said, you
bought 2 kanjis also and one wasfor UMM whom you're not dating.
So like it doesn't necessarily mean romantic problems, right?

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So like was this a Freudian slipfrom Jan?
Like was Jan into UMM and that'swhy she's like 2 means
relationship. And here you are buying 2 Kanjis
1's for UMM. Who's not here?
What was that about Jan? That's a really interesting
theory. Maybe if we got Boom Story this

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show instead of I, it would havebeen the same thing.
And maybe that's what somebody, two people may bond over at some
point. Maybe that's why Jan was so
pressed to break into a police station.
For oh too. You know what I mean?
I mean that was. Weird, I assume she just means

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in general because it's all about the odds and more times
than not that's what people are doing and that's how she can
come up with these things. I'm just saying, Jan, you
literally just said I was doing the same thing and you're not
dating anybody. OK?
Either way, Officer Hadi is really impressed by Jan's

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fortune telling abilities and orher ability to just read people
really well because that's really what she was doing.
I am also very impressed. By this because while.
Watching, I'm like, damn, girl, how are you doing listing all
these things out and just like understanding what is happening
so well, because I mean, like she may have some things to

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learn about detectiving because,you know, you do not call
somebody with the phone number that you stole right outside the
place that you stole it. But she does kill it at reading
people. So aside from being a detective,
I could see Jan working alongside May sitting in the
courtroom and like reading the jurors and figuring out where it

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what they are thinking to help May in the cases.
Not that May needs it first of all.
No. Maybe that's not skill, but yes.
And it's well, because if she's working with the defendant,
maybe she can't see all the jurors at once like she needs
someone else to be able to. Well, blind may can also use
this blind may. Need see them?

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Anymore. And this isn't exactly what Jan
did here too, but I swear she could hone that skill very
easily. Yeah, of course.
And I think we just need to add that to the spin off idea.
There's just a lot to explore inthe Pluto universe and we would
like more. Please yes.
Please and thank you. Yes, so, OK, so at this point

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things get interesting because then Officer Heidi relents to
Jan reading her fortune after Jan's demonstration.
So to me, this like doesn't readas like suddenly Officer Heidi's
like maybe fortune telling is real.
Oh my God. I think this is more so a
comment on how comfortable Officer Heidi feels around Jan
that she's like, oh, let's let'sdo this thing I don't really

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believe in, but I seem to trust you kind of thing.
So it could be that. And then also like, I think
officer Hadi needs a friend to like unburden her troubles on to
because she seems very alone andisolated and like obviously
paying is not communicating withher.
We don't see her interact with other people outside of work.
So I think by accepting this offer from Jan, it's Officer

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Hadi taking like a small step out of her own comfort zone,
which is like, I don't know, hiding behind walls of
rationality, evidence, all that kind of stuff, her denial over
what's going on with paying. So she's like taking a step into
the unknown, which I think is interesting for her character
who doesn't, like, read that way.
And I think it's more a comment on Jan and how much she trusts

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Jan to like kind of do that. And the fact that she trusts her
after catching her trying to steal evidence multiple times.
I just. Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous.
Man. But I think it's just like, Jan
is so harmless. Like, look at her.
She's just like this bubbly, kind person at the end of the
day. And then she's like told her

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she's like, the reason I was doing all this crazy shit is for
my friend who obviously means somuch to me that I buy her food
when she's not here. I think maybe Officer Hadi saw
that and put that together and being like, OK, I understand
because when they were at the precinct and her boss was like,
stop, you know, meddling in thiscase.
And Officer Hadi's like, well, Ican't get over the sister.
And the way the sister was so upset and she just wanted

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answers. I think she's seeing that in
Jan, that Jan was like, had goodintentions.
And I think Officer Hadi's like,OK, like, you were just being
fucking weird about this and didn't trust me to do my job is
more. So you're just really worried
about Boom. And it's clear in this scene
that, like, Jan really cares about Boom.
So maybe she put that together too.

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All right. And then Jan took this
concession from Officer Hottie as, oh, she's into me.
So then Jan stares gayly at Officer Hottie and Officer
Hottie stares gayly back at Jan.Like that is confirmed in those
scenes. So there, there's something
happening here. I don't know what it is, but it

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seems gay to me. Proven gay until otherwise.
Right, they're they're locked ina gay off right now.
And then meanwhile, the food vendors in the background, like,
ma'am, your Kanji's ready. Get your fucking food.
Stop staring at her. I guess to say it multiple times
before they're like, oh, whoops.All right.

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So then Officer Hadi tears her attention away from Jan long
enough to get the food. And then she tries to give Jan
money because why are you payingfor me?
This isn't our date. This is I'm trying to get this
for pay and Jan is like, OK, wait a minute, how about this
captain? You know, she's another title.
She's like, how about you pay meback when I read your fortune so

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that that will force you to takemy business card this step.
The way Jan didn't let the business card thing go, her
audacity. I just, you know the.
Master of that, it was great. And OK, so and then Jan does not
take while she concocts this way, she's like, how can I get
her to actually take the fuckingcard?
So she's like, OK, you'll have to pay me back at the time of my

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choosing. You'll have to use my business
card to figure that out. And then she's like, just so
there's no more chances, OK. She does not give Officer Hottie
an opportunity to respond and said she holds Officer Hottie's
hand with with one hand and thenwith the other, she slips her
business card in between OfficerHottie's fingers.
Like, Jane is just the gayest when she does stuff.

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Like she could have just handed it over.
No, she's like, I'm going to touch all of your hand and like
give you my business card and make this more intimate than it
needs to be. Just like the fall into her
arms. Listen.
She knows what she's doing. It works.
Officer Howdy looks real impressed by this move and like,

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let's think about this for a second.
When was the last time someone was this persistent to get her
attention? Because being with Pang right
now is like being in an attention desert.
And like, Jan is this Oasis of affection that comes out of
nowhere. And honestly, like, I was
rooting for them because like, Oscar Hadi really deserves love

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and somebody who tries to get her attention and tries to,
like, make her happy because like, Pang is not trying in the
slightest. Like, not even trying to get her
feelings back on track. Not that like she needs to, but
she needs to figure her shit out.
Yeah. Which is which, you know, it is.
Granted, we will get there with her.

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But seriously, Officer Hadi is constantly trying so hard and
everything that she's doing, like, you can tell like she
wants that reciprocated. I mean, who wouldn't?
And the fact that she receives nothing at all.
It's she texted back from him sometimes like, it's the bare

(28:24):
minimum isn't even there. Yeah, it's super fucked.
But this was really cute. And I was just like, again, I
was shipping them from the scenebecause I just wanted Officer
Heidi to be happy and have somebody who actually cares
about her. And I was like Jan is giving her
actual attention and look at herlight up like it's just not

(28:46):
fair. OK, so then Officer Hottie and
Jan part ways after that super gay exchange.
And we see Jan like afterwards and she just looks so happy and
just like Victoria's that she actually ended up giving her
card to Officer Hottie. Like finally I got this pretty

(29:06):
lady to take my number. I have listen, she's been trying
to get Officer Hottie take her business card for a while and it
finally works. So good job, Jan, you did it.
Very proud of you. So after that exchange, so
remember, Officer Heidi's back to going back to Pang's
apartment with the kanji now andthen we cut back to what's going

(29:27):
on in Pang's apartment. When I burst in, the room was
like, help me, Pang. You're my only hope.
So Pang, I mean, I sits down at the bar with Jan.
Jan, that'll be wild with Dancer.
How'd you get here, Jan? With Pang.
And she passes her phone to Pangand she's like, read this.
Basically. She's like, I wrote this novel.

(29:47):
I need you to read it. And if you look at I, I look
super excited to tell Ping aboutthis novel she's not creating.
And this is May's impact becauselook at her confidence at like
sharing this and like the way she looks all hopeful because
like, I has her dream back and she's like got life in her
again. She's not just like resigned to

(30:09):
shit. She just looks animated and
happy. And this is all because of May,
but Pang looks super concerned by this.
She's like, what the fuck is this?
And then we cut to a flashback to when they were in high
school, I think, and they're walking in the halls and
basically they're talking about that writing contest.
So this is the one that I got really excited about on her own,

(30:32):
wrote the story, was going to show me mom emails like I is
useless and then burns the story.
They're talking about that. OK.
And I think this takes place after I burns the story because
you'll see in the flashback, she's really resigned and like,
not confident, doesn't believe in herself.
And I think it's because of me mom, but I don't think she

(30:52):
shared that with Pang. OK, so in the flashback, Pang is
encouraging I to, like, participate in this event.
And I guess the contest was a short story.
And she's like, well, if you don't want to write a short
story, write a novel, right? She's like, she's like people at
book fair seem to really love novels and quote, I know you

(31:12):
like writing in your diary. So this is Pang trying to
support I in something. But if you listen to what Pang
is saying, it's very different from May's support.
So May encourage, you know, was I's muse for the novel because
May and I both share a love of stories and novels together.
And that's what encourage like inspired I to do it.

(31:34):
She's like, oh, you love this. I love this too.
What if I made you want one? Then you'd like it even more.
That was her inspiration. And it's not that Pang doesn't
love. I like she does in her own way,
and she is being supportive of I's dream.
But it's, it feels less personalbecause Pang is saying, well,
other people like this and I know you like writing in your
diary, why don't you put those things together?

(31:56):
Pang's not saying I like it. And I think it'd be, you'd be
great at it. She's like, well, people like
this, you like this, put those things together.
So it feels more detached than what?
Like May's May's support, you know.
Yeah, But I do love that she is supportive.
So but you got the differences in it.
It's definitely. I can feel that too.

(32:20):
Yeah, and I think that's why it doesn't work for inspiring I to
continue with this, because it'smore detached from from I than
May's interest in her dream, right?
Because if you look at I after Pang says this, I just look
super, super defeated, right? Because Meemaw's like I's
useless and could never do this.And then I don't think paying's

(32:40):
words are hitting home because they're detached from I in a
way, even though they are supportive.
It's just a different type of support.
And basically I's response is tosend your business paying.
And she walks away and paying looks crushed.
OK? Because she was trying to be
supportive in the only way she knew how and it didn't work OK.
And she obviously cares about I.So let me come back to the

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present. And I's explaining to Pang,
she's like May likes to read novels.
And so I wants to write 1 because again, that's more of a
personal connection to what she's doing versus what Pang was
saying in the past. So then Pang's inferiority
complex goes from zero to 100 and she again, she's like, I
tried to spur you in the past and you just blew me off, and

(33:24):
now here comes Umm's girlfriend who mentioned she's a book fair
girly and suddenly I is staying up all night.
Right, novels. Like what the fuck from Pang's
point of view? Yeah, 'cause like to pang, she
can't even win with being supportive because like she's
tried so hard to be this person that May is to I now and she

(33:48):
could never do that. And she's like, I've been
working on this for years. And then this person just comes
in and can make you react like this.
Yeah, she was like, I tried to support you.
You're like, it's not your not your God damn business.
And then here comes Oom's girlfriend and you're like, I
wrote 10 novels for her. All right.
And then, to just rub more salt in that wound, I wants Pang to

(34:12):
be the beta reader so she can present the perfect version of
this novel for Mae. And this is kind of like her
telling Pang that she doesn't matter, so it's better that she
reads it first before someone who actually matters does.
Right, exactly. So Ping's like, wait a minute

(34:34):
before we get to the novel. Like, aren't you confused?
Because last time we talked you told us, you, me and Casol that
you're confused over this whole May situation and how you feel.
What the hell is this? Then you stayed up all night
writing a novel. Like what do you mean?
And so like, I think a small part of paying from the last
conversation they had was hopingI would get over whatever this

(34:55):
is with Umm's girlfriend and realize this is insane.
I mean, it is, but basically I says, well, I haven't sorted out
my feelings because feelings arehard and I don't know what to do
with them. I'm like, it's too sued for
that. And then she says, in fact,
quote, I have no idea why I likeher.
OK. And this line comes from Chow.

(35:16):
And I think this is one of the most insane things she did in
the novel. And I just have to read you a
piece of the novel because like,I don't get this.
Because we've sat here and talked at length about why I and
May like each other. But according to Chow, they
don't know. So OK, this is the end of the

(35:38):
novel. OK, Spoiler.
This is after May. This is yes, this is after May
knows who I is. And they're sitting here talking
about their feelings and where they go from here.
And May asks, why do you love meI.
And I says I don't know. I look at the sweet faced woman

(35:58):
and ask her back. Why do you love me?
May and May responds. She said.
I don't know. Yes, OK, so why do you love me I
May asks. I responds.
I don't know Eyes in her monologue.
I look at the sweet faced woman and ask her back.
Why do you love me? May and May responds.
I don't know. We go quiet again.

(36:23):
This is the Eisener monologue. And I think that May has the
same belief as me. There's no reason when it comes
to love. If there were, it wouldn't be
love. It keeps going.
Hold on, this is I. We love each other, but we don't
know that much about each other.Will there be more surprises?
Eisener monologue. I mentioned this as I look at

(36:46):
Pang, 'cause they're at Pang's concert, thinking, thanking,
Ping's thanking, sorry, not Pingplaying, they're playing
concert. As soon as I look at playing,
thinking, thanking everyone after she finished her last
song, I clasped May. Our clap is May turns towards me
and whispers into my ear becausethe cheering is too loud for her
to speak normally. May says it's OK, we can

(37:08):
exchange our name cards and get to know each other again.
I responds. What should I do?
I don't have a name card, I don't have a job.
How can I get one? May says we can exchange our
IDs, then I guess mine IDs so wecan be sure of each other's
identities too. Anyway.
But I was like, what do you meanyou don't know each other?
Like you guys spend all this time together.

(37:31):
If the show happened in the book, that's what I mean.
They write the novel together. How do they not know?
Both of them don't know by the end of the story why they're in
love. With each other, Mae knows who I
is. OK.
Now in the novel, Mae knows who I is the entire time.

(37:52):
In the novel, Mae is faking her blindness when she's with I, and
by the end of it, they don't know why they love each other.
Which makes no sense because if you like watch them together,
it's very clear they have thingsin common.
They're able to support each other.
What do you mean you don't know why you like her?

(38:13):
Well, I mean, why do you have feelings, Mae?
The why were you pining after this twin?
That's literally what you could have said.
I don't know why were you piningafter this person, after the
initial interaction you had withthem?
Was it not the interaction wherethey gave you courage to be
yourself? Like is that not a reason to

(38:35):
love them? This was insane what Shao wrote.
Because like there are so many reasons for them to like be
connected to each other. It's not irrational.
Like it's actually there's very rational explanation for like
why I specifically and May specifically connect where like
umm and May did not connect. Like you can see it in the show

(38:56):
where like like umm is May is paying where it's like it's not
that she doesn't love May. It's not that she's not being
supportive. It's just like they don't
connect the way I and May connect because I may have more
things in common with each other.
This was insane. I'm so mad at this was a novel.

(39:17):
I thought this was insane. I want to see your reaction to
it. It's the first time you read it.
I was just like what the? Fuck am I reading?
I mean to be fair the novel is very different but like the way
GMMTV is like outlining this shit so like this is like I
don't know why I like her. This comes from Chow, and I
think it this stage in the storycoming from I, who's having her

(39:40):
first love ever and this is all brand new.
This kind of makes sense for herto be like, I don't really
understand this because she doesn't understand the feelings
because she's never been in thisposition before.
That makes sense to get to the end of the story and then be
like, I don't know why I like you.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
That is crazy. That's crazy.
So I just. And the fact that they have to
do the we'll have to get to knoweach other thing.

(40:06):
For me to not know why she likedI is insane.
Why did you like I? Why didn't you like like?
It's just it's insane. This was insane to me anyway.
I just had I had to rant about that because I just I'll never
be over it and I thought it was fucking weird.
But I'm pretty sure that line the if it made sense, it

(40:29):
wouldn't be love. I personally use that blank when
Little Note was reading Pluto. Yeah, but again, their love also
made sense if you looked at. Anyway, we spent many hours
talking about that. Check out our blank episodes.
Many, many, many. All right, so let's get.
Back to this So I is basically at the point where she wants.

(40:53):
Oh yeah. The only thing she conveys to
Pang is that she's like, she's at the point where she's like, I
want to do things that bring me joy and do what's best for me.
Is that so wrong? And by that she means she wants
to do may, I mean write novels. So that's what's making her
happy. So like she's like, is it so
wrong for me to do this? Fuck my sister?
And the fact that my sister's involved with this, this makes

(41:15):
me happy. It makes her happy.
Why can't I indulge in this, which like we've seen I struggle
with that to like do what, you know, accept her feelings and
what they're what she's having when she's having them and just
act on her own feelings because there's all this shit going on
with whom. But here's I being like, fuck
it, I've jumped off the deep end.

(41:37):
I'm just going to jump fully offthe deep end and do what's best
for me for once and not worry about other people because I
very consistently puts other people before herself.
So she's telling Pang, I'm putting me first for once, which
is huge. And she's saying it out loud,
which is also huge. And while she says this, Pang is
browsing through the novel on the phone.
And she stops for a second to process what I just said.

(42:00):
And what she, Pang hears is I'm choosing May over you.
That's what Pang hears. So Pang's like, fuck this, shut
him out. And she gives I the phone back.
And she's like, I'm not reading this.
It's not, this isn't for me. I'm not, this is weird.
I'm not doing this. And I's like, wait, why won't I?
It's just a small favor I'm asking you to do.
And I understand. You're my best friend.
That's why I'm here. Why won't you do this?

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Like you said, like that this isthe first time she's choosing
herself over other people. It sucks that this is the time
that she's choosing to do that and now that she's hurting her
best friend in the process because it's just gonna make her
like reconsider choosing herselfin the future.

(42:45):
And it's, it's sad, like the first time she does this, like
it's an issue. Yeah, but if you like watch the
rest of the scene like I does not seem concerned about paying
this. Feeling.
Oh no. Well, yeah, we will get.
Yeah, yeah. Which this is I jumping off the
deep end right and being like I'm more important in this
situation, and she fully sticks to that, even when paying starts

(43:06):
getting upset, right, because I one point O would have been
like, OK, sorry, paying I'm hurting you.
I was like, no, my happiness is more important.
Sorry, not sorry, basically. And at this point, paying is
really at her breaking point with all of this.
And she finally tells I all of her pent up feelings for like a

(43:26):
decade. And she boils it down to this
sentence, which is if you're going to like girls, why can't
it be me? And please, at this stage, if
you've ever been personally victimized by this line, please
raise your hand or leave it in the comments because this line
is so real. It's so real.
OK, so this is something I have to thank Chow for because this
whole thing with paying, this plot line, the way this is

(43:49):
handled, this comes from Chow. So there are some insanities and
some really good things in the novel.
And this was a good thing because it's really, really
relatable the way paying feels about I because it's like when
she gets into it, like ping was like, I didn't really like when
we hit puberty and you started dating men and she's like, I

(44:10):
didn't like that. But it's like worse now because
now that I is serious about dating a woman, it's like I
suddenly became this option. Like in your mind, like if like
she's dating men, it's like, well, she's not an option.
So like I need I can it's never going to happen with me because
you're not into women, But then it's like, Oh no, I'm going to

(44:32):
women do. And then she's like, fuck, well,
what the hell, I've been here and queer this whole fucking
time. What the hell?
I basically so it's like pangs, like why couldn't it have been
me? I was here the whole time.
Like she's upset about that. This is the danger of having
feelings for friends, basically is what his pang story and then

(44:53):
I rubs again and she's just likeevery time paying is wounded.
I was like, let me throw, let metwist the knife more paying.
I'm not going to come for you. I'm going to make this worse.
So I makes it worse by telling paying.
Oh, you still feel this way about me like like what the fuck
I this like paying is literally crying and I was like, you
haven't gotten over this. So when we were doing our murder

(45:17):
board, we should have had who knew that paying like I, because
that's something I apparently knew the whole time and is
bringing up now at the worst possible moment.
And in the worst tone. Possible.
No. I know like I comes off as
really callous in this scene andit she reads more like I from

(45:39):
the novel because I from this whole scene read more like novel
than like what GMMTV was doing. It's giving me UMM vibes And
like honestly her outfit's not helping either because look at
what I's wearing in the scene. She's wearing this like I don't
know this like V-neck button up shirt.
It looks more like Umm's wardrobe.
Like I don't know why she wore this I.

(46:01):
Can see that. It's really weird.
It's like she's channelling her inner UMM when she came here.
Maybe because she thinks that UMM got to choose her own life.
Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
But the way that she handles this is one of the two things
that she's done wrong in her life because just like the way

(46:24):
she handles it, because she's saying things like this when she
knows the history and of Pang's feelings and she's saying it
like Pang's feelings aren't valid.
Like she could have helped her through it or like let her down

(46:46):
gently. But like, it's something that I
noticed was that her friends seem to talk like this.
They're fairly harsh when they say things.
They're like very direct and just say what's on their mind
without thinking about how they come off.
Probably because they're like just comfortable with each other
but they don't realize how it actually sounds to other people.

(47:11):
If that makes sense. No, it does.
And I think part of this, again,it's just the eyes.
This comes from the novel where eyes never had feelings for
anybody, so that she doesn't understand when people have
feelings. So she doesn't know to tread
delicately, like she has no ideabecause she's never been.
She's like, I don't get it. I don't know how much this is
hurting you because I've never been there.
It's one of those things, but the shitty part is that like OK

(47:34):
so by I basically being like you're not over this yet.
I essentially noticed pangs behavior change when she started
dating Kasol. She noticed it way back when and
I way back when, chose to ignorethis and hope paying would get
over it. And like here we are now.
And This is why talking about our feelings is important.

(47:56):
But it's hard to do and avoidingit is easier and but that's how
we end up in this situation a decade later and eyes like the
feelings didn't go away. Tough shit.
Paying basically is the scene OKbut paying?
Paying is upset because why is Isuddenly having feelings for

(48:16):
another woman? And basically is Pig's
inferiority comics. She's like what does she have
that I don't like? That's the whole energy of the
scene basically. And I does not have an answer
for this because apparently she doesn't know why she likes May.
OK Ciao and I've already went over this.
This is I's first love. She's a late bloomer to having
feelings and that's honestly nother fault.

(48:38):
And that's going to take time tofigure out to be honest.
But Pang has been having these feelings for years and doesn't
know where to put them all. And so it's kind of like if you
think about the situation with Pang and I, it's very much like
her situation with Officer Hadi from Officer Hadi's point of
view, OK, where Officer Hadi hasall these feelings for Pangs,

(49:00):
but Pang is not reciprocating them so that she's trapped.
And then Pang has all these feelings for I that are not
getting reciprocated. So she's trapped with them.
And I do wonder if her relationship with Officer Hadi,
when she has time to really sit and reflect on it, helps paying
process, because we'll see paying eventually processes all
of this, which I think was a good thing they're depicting.
But I wonder if like, her relationship with Officer Hadi

(49:21):
really helped her see things from I's point of view.
You know what I mean? Because paying is like, it's not
that your feelings are not valid, Officer Hadi.
It's just that I don't have themback.
And that's the situation with I right now.
That's why I was like, in a way,like to me, your feelings don't
matter because like I'm not going to reciprocate them ever.
So like, you got to get over it.And that's like basically how
pain feels for Officer Hottie. So like, I do wonder if that

(49:44):
helps her process shit. Not now because now she's having
big emotions, but like later on when she like goes to process
it. Yeah, that's a good point
because they're she really can connect with her again on this.
Yeah, because pain really has tosit down and be like, what the
hell am I doing, you know, in life?

(50:05):
And like probably has to like reexamine her current relationship
and be like, oh, maybe this is how I feel because that's how I
feel with Officer Hadi kind of thing.
I think this, this conversation really is the catalyst for what
we see happen with her. Oh yeah, in the future.
It has to, because this is like the illusion is shattered, the

(50:26):
hope is gone that someday I willlook at me.
It's over. So I explains how she feels to
Pang about Pang, which is like she's like, OK, like me being
into you has nothing to do with gender.
It's you I don't like. And like this is literally what
Pang was saying earlier and that's why it hurts paying more.
It's not that like you'll never look at me because you're not

(50:47):
into women. It's like you'll never look at
me because you're flat out rejecting me basically as a
person, which really hurts more.And that's why I like.
Pang had the hope in the back ofher mind, I just like fuck you,
just don't like me and you can call IA coward for like, you
know, skirting around this yearsago and like pretending it

(51:08):
doesn't exist. But like to be fair, this
conversation with her best friend was never going to be
easy and that's I think why she avoided it was like, maybe it'll
go away, I hope. But.
And while this is like hard to hear this whole conversation and
it's a hard conversation to have, I needed to say all of
this and Pang needed to hear it so that Pang can move on and

(51:29):
heal because clearly she hasn't.Oh, and also, as I mentioned,
Pang as a girlfriend she fuckingtotally forgot about yet again
she's stringing along of. Course.
So then after this failure of beta reading, I was like, this
was a mistake. I should never have come here

(51:49):
because honestly May should be the first person to read this
novel since she was the muse forit.
And that's true, honestly, like May was inspiration, but I think
truly she came here to see paying for the same reason that
Jan bought the second kanji, because for umm, because paying
is her best friend. And I think that this is the
person she normally goes to tellthings to when she has big news.

(52:11):
Like we saw her at the very beginning of the show.
She was like, what the fuck? Who's dating a woman?
What is this? She goes to talk to Ping, and I
think that's why she really camehere.
Like, yeah, you could. I said earlier that like, oh,
she needs a beta reader. But really, I think it was just
like, the reflex of like, this is who I talk to.
And then she's like, now she's got somebody else in her life
that she can talk to. And May understands this part of

(52:31):
her better. So she's like, really, I should
have went to May. This was a mistake.
And it's like I choosing May overpaying again in front of
paying, which like, again, twist.
It's just twisting the knife. It hurts.
Because it's just hurting payingthe way that she says it even
more. Yeah, this was the paying as
devastated episode. And then, OK, so then I was

(52:53):
like, fuck this shit, I'm out. And she leaves to go see May.
And as I is walking the way downthe hallway, we like Pan into
the stairwell where Officer Hottie is bawling her eyes out
because of course the cop installed security cameras into
her girlfriend's apartment so she can see what the Hell's
going on inside and just eyes twisting.

(53:16):
Another knife and somebody shouldn't even know she stabbed.
I have some questions about thisthough.
One, Does Pang know about these cameras?
I hope she does. I would imagine so, but again,
Officer Heidi's not a thought inher mind.
Yeah, but then when hottie, likedid hottie get an alert that

(53:36):
someone, a stranger was in the house?
Like why is she watching these cameras right now?
Like did she come back over herethat eyes there?
Because I feel like if she heardPang crying, she would go in and
be like, what's going on? Or did she hear?
Was it like paying, saying I've always had feelings for you?

(53:58):
I wonder if it's like she might have alerts on the camera, on
the camera and then saw like voices in the kitchen.
I was like, what's paying doing or because she's nosy And then
or it's like who knows how thin or thick those walls are?
And like Pang was not quiet. Like they were arguing.
So I wonder if she heard arguing, heard another voice and

(54:21):
was like, what the fuck is goingon?
And then was like, oh, I'm paying.
She listened to it was like, oh fuck, how much of the
conversations that officer had to hear?
That's what I want to know. Like how far away is the street
vendor? Is the street vendor like
literally outside the apartment?Did you have like walk a bit?
We don't know how much this conversation Officer Heidi
heard, but we do know it wasn't good because she's crying

(54:42):
because I at the minimum, she heard Pang being like, why can't
it be I, me, I, I still have feelings for you.
All this shit probably heard that part because now Officer
Heidi knows why Pang has been acting so distant and why their
sex capads did not work out at the beginning of the day.
And what I thought was interesting is if you notice

(55:04):
officer already doesn't go confront.
I like she doesn't go and try tolike attack.
I because like, you know, I kindof caused this, right?
She doesn't do any of that. Officer already just watches
pain crying alone in the apartment and she starts crying
too. So because this is something
like officer Hadi really can't she can't fix I right.

(55:26):
So like what she does, I think is she's like internalizing this
moment as her failure to make pang love her more than I like.
She takes this as AI failed, notI walked in and stole my
girlfriend. She's like oh man, I failed
which is so fucking sad. Just.

(55:50):
Yeah. I should be justice, Justice for
Officer Hottie. Yeah.
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and threads over there talking about everything that's going
on. It's a great time.
Make sure you join that and findyour community because I really
do love seeing that the community that we've built.
It's really, really cute. It is so back to Pluto.
We start part 4 with I voice messaging May that she will be

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there soon and she asks if she can get her anything and May
tells I that she has an urgent meeting with the council so she
will see her tomorrow instead, which is devastating to hear
when you're so excited to see someone you're like what?
What do you mean I can't see you?
So I changes her order to two blood pudding soups instead of

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three and then voice messages Maybach somberly saying that she
can't wait to see her tomorrow. Don't worry I the sun will come
out tomorrow. It is really cute how excited I
is already and we'll get like the little Prince line later.
And she's like when I see when we have a meeting together at 4,
I'm excited by three. Like that's what I is doing

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right now. But my question is like, who is
the second blood pudding for? Because she's like ordering 3
and then may she's like we don'twant any may make it 2.
Who's the second one for? Is I eating both or is like one
for Mima? Like who was this for?
I also wondered this while watching because what?
Yeah. Is wondering is.

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She like here you go like amaze maid.
She like, brings her food. My first thought was like maybe
like the offering for the shrineor whatever, but Meemaw makes
that so. Yeah, and usually I decide first
thing in the morning. This is like.
But you know what? Maybe this is one of eyes
favorite foods and I just wants more.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong withthat.

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Everybody out here buying food for their significant other eyes
like I'll take two for me and maybe it is the shrine.
That's true. But yeah, I doesn't specify.
So I was just wondering like whois she buying?
She buying 2. For anyway, totally valid if
it's for you I. Yeah, no, I'm not judging.
It's just it's never explained. So we cut to May and see her

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slowly close her phone and placeit down on the table.
And the way that this shot, likewith the way that this is shot
makes it look like she's just this evil mastermind.
And I mean, she is a mastermind.She's not necessarily evil.
She's not evil. That's her father.
But it's looks like she's an evil mastermind who just had to

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like her plan placed like just put in the place.
And she's like, yeah, I. Was like putting down the last
pot or whatever. OK.
And while she's doing this we get a close up of Mae's hands.
And as a lesbian I need to comment on Mae's nails because
girl you out here wooing eye andyou are wooing Oom.

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What is with these nails? Girl, they are long.
You need trim that shit. What are you doing?
It's not this is not her first rodeo like girl, what are you
doing? You're going to hurt someone.
Well, she has been with OOM thiswhole time, which of a
relationship we still have no idea of, which they've never
shared a. Bed together allegedly.

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So yeah, maybe, maybe May's like, well, I've never had the
opportunity, but I'm just sayingyou got to get your shit
together. Don't hurt I.
Never hurt. Never hurt I.
That's the ultimate crime anyway, so Tan asks.

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We find out that it's Tan that she's actually meeting with and.
We oh, wait, can we talk about the fact that she's like, I have
a meeting with the council and it's just him.
What was that line? It's just Tan.
He's the council. Because he is her counsel and
she doesn't have many people in her life.

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But yes, that is hilarious. It sounds like a.
Committee, It's just one person.I love that.
There probably is a council thatshe's lying about.
Probably, but the Council is just.
I just love that. And the council asked if she is
sure that it was Oom's ex who hurt her.

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To which she says that she isn't, which is why she needs
his help to look into it. Because she doesn't want
theories, she needs evidence. Because she is a lawyer, she
needs the evidence. Yeah, and honestly, this scene
puts into context why May was acting so distant towards I

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after the run in with Kasol, because she wasn't expecting any
of this shit, OK? Like she's so shaken by this
development. Like just like look at her face
when she's like, I need evidence.
Because if the the question is like, was this Umm's axe?
We don't know if this is umm or Isaxe first of all, So like
which, which twin was this? And if her one of the twins

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knows knows her attacker and or dated him like that's a huge
betrayal to may like because this is the person that blinded
her. Like has the person that she's
supposed to be in love with beenin on her blind this entire
time? Right.
That throws a wrench in everything for May.

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This is new evidence. It's like putting her in a
spiral and she's like, I need toknow the specifics of like who
this person was involved with. Did he know about me?
Like that's the thing, like was this personal, you know, cuz
like her and whom we're not doing well at the end.
So like. No, And who was definitely
making. Questionable choices, Right,

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right, right. So like, May was not expecting
any of this. I think that's why she's like,
we need to figure out what the fuck happened here because this
could be really bad on multiple fronts.
I just need to know what happened.
Yeah, and Tan asked her what she's going to do if it is him.
We don't get an answer to that. We instead we just flashed back

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to 2023 to Ben's trial and May is in her lawyer mode
questioning the sole witness of the accident.
So as we know that there are multiple witnesses to this
accident, but I'm assuming because they the others fled the
scene, they didn't want to come forward and actually say they
witnessed it because that would tell them that they were also

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there doing something they shouldn't have been.
Yeah, so that would be I, Pang and Kasol were all there, but
some reason they don't get questioned.
And the sole witness. It is unless may cherry pick
witnesses or something. Yeah, but like they're saying

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it's a sole witness, so like they don't know about the
others. Which seems weird, yeah.
Did they not go to hospital to see what happened to Ben?
Like they seem to worry about I think.
I said that like they all separated waves like they
didn't. I'm wondering if that's why like
they didn't go, they didn't see him for a while.

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Yeah, but still like. Wouldn't the?
Police like Inquire. I don't know.
Especially because later we talkabout camera footage and I.
Don't. Fully know how he got away with
this. I wonder if may concocted some
of this shit. I don't know to be like look
there's one witness like omittedstuff.

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Who knows, but it is weird. But like I would OK, so I feel
like the other side would have had like the same things if
it's. Who knows?
I don't know how Thailand. I don't know how it's in
Thailand. Who knows?
Anyway, the witness testified that I forgot his name at.
Batman, his name is. Batman Batman does not deserve

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the name Batman so I called him drunk scumbag so but I can use
Batman. Use whoever you want.
The witness testified that he intended to run over Ben and
then fled the scene and May pushes further on why the
witness thinks that he was trying to flee and the witness

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saw him get out of his car and suffer many setbacks trying to
get away, but he couldn't escapebecause he couldn't even stand.
I mean, that's how drunk do you have to be to not even be able
to stand up. And also like, why did you want
to run bent over? I don't understand what his

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motivation was other than I'm rich and I get away with murder.
Like this was so random for him to run over somebody on their
bike. And it's like if you look at the
if you look at this whole thing,it's like there's three lanes.
He could have easily swerved around them, but no, he like ran
over Ben in the middle lane. Like this was so weird, like.

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It is. It's so weird, I'm just like a
rich guy power tripping. It's the only way I can explain
this. Like even drunk driving doesn't
fully explain this. Because he like no.
Accelerated when he saw a Ben like.
Yeah, this whole thing doesn't make sense because I'm like,
wasn't it a drunk thing? But no, he was fully on purpose

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trying to. Trying to run him over.
Well, I mean, May is playing this office.
He's really drunk to get him on charges but like this is insane.
Yeah, and like this is when May does like, lead the witness into
her Master plan because she getsthe witness to come to the

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conclusion that Batman was drunk.
That sentence, man. Batman was drunk.
Sorry, I wasn't prepared for me to say that.
That might be the title of this episode.
Batman was drunk. Oh my gosh.

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Drunk Batman. Oh my gosh.
OK, that got me way too much. OK.
So before the trial, I assume this is before the trial because
there's really no timeline for this.

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This is before the trial, yeah, 'cause he's like smiling along
when she's doing this. So he knows, really.
So before the trial, May and Batman had a meeting where she
told him her plan and because he's complaining that he managed
to avoid the blood alcohol content test.
Basically bragging but she made him admit that he was drunk

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anyway and Mae's like this is better than being in prison for
your rest of your life for attempted murder so you got you
can't get away with this withoutanything.
Like that's just not possible this is your better chance.
And then she calls him dumb because he managed to avoid the
test, but he didn't avoid being caught on camera when he chased

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after the guy. So like, again, there are
cameras, they they saw everything.
So there's more witnesses. So I I guess, yeah, I don't
know. Because even if they hid this
video, then they wouldn't have had that anyway.
It doesn't matter. So Batman relents and asks what
they do now. So May tells him that she's

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turning this case into driving under the influence causing
bodily harm again. But if we have that video, that
wouldn't really show. We don't know the video showed
or how good it was or like how much of the accident, if it
showed him fleeing, not necessarily running over Ben,

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like we don't know what it's all.
That's the thing. Yeah, I mean, everything's going
so fast. Where were the cameras placed?
It it is a lot. We don't get all the evidence.
No. And neither does Ben's lawyer,
probably. Anyway, back to the trial.
Ben's lawyer objects to the lineof questioning because it is
literally leading the witness. He is correct about this.
Her questioning was totally. She's like, what do you think

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happened? She's.
Like what do you think happened to cause him to stumble to the
ground anyway? But May is a good lawyer and
immediately gets his objection overruled because he mentions
the punishment and as soon as she hears that she's like oh I
got this and this could cause the witness to feel biased in
her testimony and she does get this overruled.

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I personally feel like this objection should have been
sustained, but Ben's lawyer should have been like just
reprimanded and like given a warning to not mention
punishments again because it wasa valid objection.
Yes, it was. But I am not a lawyer and I
don't know how this fully works so.
Also, we don't know what this works in Thailand either.

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The whole Thailand aspect just adds more layers to this.
So in a trial, May literally hasto look at her cases from all
sides and think of any possibilities that could be
thrown at her during it and how she would manage to use
everything to her advantage. And I was just thinking about

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this because, like, it's no surprise that she brings these
tactics into her everyday life, which is like, we see how she is
handling this whole thing with Ilike she's always one step ahead
thinking of like, oh, if she does this, I can do this.
She just doesn't turn this part of her brain off.
And it just seems like it has tobe exhausting trying to stay on

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her toes and try to figure out situations and people because
like, I don't think she does it on purpose.
It's just something that she can't turn off.
I just how her brain works does it well, I think it might stem
from her childhood shit where she had to do that with her dad
just to like survive. So I think that's just like
ingrained now. It's just how she operates.

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Which is still really. Sad.
It's really fucking sad. I think this is a survival
thing, but it makes her a very effective lawyer.
So there's like the good that came of that for about, you
know, OK. And then I found one line during
the trial really, really illuminating, which is where May
says we shouldn't introduce anything that might cloud the
truth from the witness, should we?

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And this is when she's like arguing for the, you know, the
objection thing. And honestly, this line to me
sounds a lot like what's going on in the present with the whole
Kasol situation, because Kasol is a new piece of evidence that
is clouding the case of does I love me for real?
And once May finds out the truthof who is connected to Kasol,

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then we have the clouded truth of eyes identity.
But that's like a later problem.But that kind of reads like this
is the situation she finds herself in now, and like the
irony of that, you know? Yeah, that.
I mean, there's a reason why we have these flashbacks and these
specific lines. That makes a lot of sense.

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Yeah. So back in the flashback, Land
May continues her line of questioning to get the witness
to give the testimony that she wants.
Because she's really good at leading the witness without
being told. Not to.
That's ridiculous. And again, she leads the witness
to say that she smelled alcohol on Batman's breath.

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How? Close was this witness.
Yes, that's my question, that she could smell that like right
and or how drunk was Batman? Even so, like she must have been
like meters away, you know what I mean?
Like she had to have been real close to him.

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And like, it almost reads like, it almost reads like he fled the
scene, ended up somewhere else. And then like maybe he went to a
gas station or some shit and then like she happened to be
there and sees like saw him racing and then stopped.
He had to have stopped somewhereunless he was like stopping to
get bend. But like where is this woman?
And she's like walking down thatroad, like.

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Yeah. It's weird.
And then she did, she go out to see what's going on with Ben.
And then he tried to get in the car and leave and she was with
Ben and like, maybe like called the ambulance and like.
Was she not even a witness? And she's just, I mean, if
there's cameras, allegedly she'scaught on camera.

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And maybe when I and Casol peeled off, like, they weren't
caught on whatever section of this camera was.
So that's why they didn't see them.
But they saw this pedestrian whothen, like, maybe ran out to bed
when he got hit. And then Batman stopped.
And, like, maybe she was. That's how she would have gotten
close enough because he would have checked on his body and,
like, tried to leave. But it implies they were close

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enough for her to smell that. Yeah.
And it had to have been plausible on camera.
She can't be, like, a mile away and, like, the alcohol.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Or someone's really not doing their job.
Or that, yeah, May's really doing hers, though let's be
honest, she's she's doing her job.
And Ben's lawyer knows that because we jumped to Ben's

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lawyer confronting May. At the end of the.
Time. Yeah, and he asked her if she's
aware of what she's doing, and I'm assuming that he means
helping a terrible person evade.He does.
Yeah, he does mean that. And she tells him that she's
always aware of what she's doing.

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And this says a lot because she's talking about every moment
of her life because she's has toconstantly.
She's always on her game. And this is when the lawyer
responds that she's a very competent attorney.
And I feel like this is probablythe highest praise that he gives

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out first of all. But he he is also acknowledging
that she has these mad skills. But they both still know that
she's helping a terrible person.Like she's really good at her
job, but this is not a good situation to put these skills to
use. No.
And May's face is stone while she is talking to him, but as

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soon as he walks away you just see her walls crumble and her
face like it. You could see that it pains her
to have to do this, but she doeshave her reasons.
Which we find out that if she wins her case, her father will
leave her and UMM alone. And she's choosing to be selfish

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in this moment out of self preservation instead of
following her own values. And that's what her father's
taking away from her. And we see a flashback with them
too. But I also find fascinating
because she kept preaching abouttruth and fairness during court.
And I this was probably to persuade the jury that whatever

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she says, she has those values and they can trust what she
says, but at the same time that she has all this going on in the
background. Yeah, so it's a it's a messier
situation that we're led to believe.
And like after the lawyer leaves, that's when we get a
shot of May's phone where she gets the text from her dad that
says win this case and I'll leave you and that woman alone.

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So to your point, the only reason May is even on this case
at all defending drunk Batman isbecause her father was
threatening basically like we'llget the flashbacks later of like
he was threatening. And May to your point abandoned
her moral high ground for the person she quote loves.

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Because remember, May thinks UMMis I right now.
OK? May does not know that UMM is
not the twin she's in. UMM is a twin.
She doesn't know that yet and she doesn't know that any of
this. She's just like, this is the
person that saved me. I love this person.
So at this stage in May's life, aside from her, her only

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confidants are ton her cousin and playing to some extent or
not playing. I'm sorry, ploy to some extent.
And then umm, like, umm is the only other person she is close
with, OK. Other than that, Mae is a very
isolated person. Like her parents, we see over
and over again, did not love herin the way she needed them to.

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And she's like basically all alone.
So all she had for really like kind of was her reputation and
her career. And now she's soiling her own
reputation. That's what the lawyer was
saying. He's like, you know, you have
this good reputation as a lawyerand you're you do realize you're
squandering that right now with this case because as a lawyer, I
see what you're doing and you just admit it.
She's like, I know what I'm doing, but he doesn't know the

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reason why she's doing it. Like like to your point was self
preservation and and more so to protect the person she loves.
OK, but that's why she's soilingher own reputation right now.
Which is a terrible situation tobe in.
Yeah, obviously we see that it'slike weighing on her as like the

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scene continues. Yeah, And we, like, end this
flashback with Mae sitting in a dark courtroom with barely any
light coming in. And this is basically her
headspace right now because we know that she's not happy to be
doing this. She wants to be on the right
side. Her values are not to let rich,

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rich men off and evade the law. Yeah.
And her world just feels so darkright now because she's doing
her father's bidding. Like she has to do with her
father once, first of all. And like, that's also a terrible
thing. But if you see like there's a
sliver of light on the top of her from coming in from the

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windows of the room. And I see that as like in her
headspace, like the thought thatshe can finally have everything
she wants with rooms. Like there is that light.
It's like the light at the end of the tunnel that's saying.
Yeah. Yeah, and but it's so dim.
It's still like so far away right now because it's not right

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in front of her. And you see Mae mostly in the
shadows and like only 1/4 of herface is in light and it's
showing. Although she's doing this to be
with Oom, the guilt is still overshadowing what she's doing.
And it's. This is so heartbreaking.
Yeah, it really is. And like, later on when you get

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the full story of like, why May was, like defending Batman and
like, how that kind of went down.
But the bottom line is that May is on this particular case
because she's extremely good at what she does.
And her father extorts her talents to essentially help his
rich friend's son avoid prison. You know, typical rich people
should. We're above the law as long as

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we have a good lawyer because. Throw money at it.
Because privileged people were lawyers and they wrote the law
to protect themselves. So like, that's kind of how this
works. That's why they keep, they
always get off. They wrote the laws.
OK. So like you said, we know May
does not want to defend this deplorable rich boy.
But Despite that, it's evident throughout this trial that May

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enjoys being good at her job. OK, So like throughout the trial
and in the flashbacks with Batman when she's counseling
him, we see her confident and triumphant smiles throughout.
OK, first when she's like concocting the drunk excuse plan
with her client, like you just see that like confidence wafting
off of her and she takes joy in being good at this.

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And then later when she successfully leads the witness,
we get this really cool shot that's like this like angled
from above May where May looks even bigger than she is.
And she's got that like really smug gotcha smile.
So you can see that like she does enjoy this.
Like despite helping this despicable being, being a

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successful lawyer and outmaneuvering people is
something she loves doing and she's good at it.
And she takes, she takes pride and joy in her job.
It seems like in the moment she can separate what she's doing
from like her goal. So like she knows that the goal
is to reduce the charges. She knows how to get there.

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She's not even thinking about like would that she's from, I'm
sorry, the words she's not even thinking about like she's doing
something that she would not normally do, that she doesn't
want to do. Her job is win the case and
she's like, I'm winning. That's it.
There's no thought outside. I'm going to win, right, because

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that's what a lawyer does. My job is to win the case,
right? That I don't care.
She's like most slick, slimy attorneys are like, I don't care
what happens after that. My job is to win.
And so like you, you know, kind of like we said earlier, like
this is the sacrifice of May's morality.
So like, it's really evident by like the end of the sequence.
So you saw her taking pride in being a good lawyer and winning

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because that was her job, right?And she's very good at it.
Hence the other attorney being like, you're very good at being
a lawyer, but like what you're doing is bad.
And she's like, I'm aware. So then the end of the sequence,
the end of this whole sequence of May alone in the courtroom, I
find is really heartbreaking because to your point, you were
describing the scenes where likewe're getting the view from
where the judges sit, basically,where you're seeing May sitting

(01:22:55):
in the, you know, where the audience sits basically.
And then we transition to the opposite angle where it's behind
May, looking towards the courtroom where you can see,
like, where the witnesses, the witness stand and like, the
judges. And Mae is sitting there in this
abandoned dark courtroom making peace with the fact that she's

(01:23:16):
sacrificing her spotless career and her reputation as an
attorney for her father. OK.
And I think this shot at the endor we're seeing her from the
back is, you know, that's what that really represents, like her
kind of giving this up. And like, she's basically
sitting in the dark before the seats of the judges.

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And in a way, it's like a setup for like, bad karma in a way,
because May is like, kind of like almost in this moment,
accepting whatever outcome awaits her at the end of all of
this because she's doing this bad thing that's ultimately
going to end in a, you know, badkarma from the bad action.
But it's almost like she's sitting in here and she knows

(01:23:58):
that, right? She's admitted I'm aware of what
I'm doing. So I wonder if she's like
sitting there accepting whateveroutcome's going to happen for
her as her karma because she's doing this for the person that
she loves, right? And to her, that's worth it.
So what I found really interesting from all of this is
like this flashback was really illuminating as to who May was

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before her accident because we only get we've seen her as a
child. But like this was May the adult,
May the confident, successful lawyer.
And it's really sad that in the present we don't see the side of
May very often. We don't see her being super
confident, super joyous in what she's doing, except when she's

(01:24:40):
with I. That's when we see her being
like playful and like happy and stuff with her.
Like cool move with V. That was probably the closest
thing to like May the lawyer like coming back out again.
And you can just see how much she enjoys being a successful
lawyer. Like she really loves it.
So it's so sad that she had to sacrifice this thing that she
loves and is good at for the person she loves because her

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father was threatening that person.
And that person wasn't even who she thought it was.
But yeah, it's a shame that her father is just so good at
ruining. Everything.
Everything in her life. Everything.
And Speaking of her father, we go to when she gives her father

(01:25:25):
money for her freedom. And the first shot we get before
we see who's talking or where we're at is May's cell phone,
which has got umm, and her in the back as the background of
the phone. And then there's a check.
And I just, I have to say, because this is the check her
dad like is trying to pay her off for like the case and like

(01:25:46):
he signed it. And I have to point out how
fuck, it's stupid. His signature is OK.
It's so dumb. It's just like the letter MAT
and an M. It's like literally anybody can
forge this. This is the worst signature I've
ever seen. That's not like an X, you know
what I mean? This signature is fucking dumb.
And I have to point that out because I really hate her dad.

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Same and I love that. Like that's the thing that you
chose to point out. Right now it's so shitty.
Look at it. I mean, you're not.
Wrong. I know.
It's just so dumb. He's so unoriginal.
He's just dumb. He's like a cookie cutter
villain. Oh my gosh.

(01:26:27):
Anyway, her father says that he will have his people stop
following UMM and turn a blind eye to her being a lesbian.
People following umm so like he was literally threatening UMM
that's how bad it was. So like I understand why May was
like fuck my reputation he's going to like kill UMM or worse.
Yeah, she really had no choice because this was not.

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Actually her no this was not really a choice.
It was just like a she's back into a corner again by her dad.
So fucked up. But I have to say, OK, there is
something good in this scene, which is film's hair.
Like Oh my God, I think for film's hair in the scene, it's
so good. The layers.

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Oh my God, wardrobe. This suit she's got on like her
power suit lawyer May. I wish you were in more scenes
because ma'am, if this is what you're bringing, a girl rolls
like we won't survive. I would have loved to see her be
a lawyer more especially a lawyer went during being like

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while she's blind and like see her navigate that, especially
not being able to read people. I would I would have loved to
see how that. What?
As long as she shows up in thesepower suits, I'm here for
whatever. It doesn't have to make any
sense, doesn't have to make sense.
Just just lawyer May. It's a good job, Phil.

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I wish I could see you in the scene.
She might not survive. And someone else who's barely
surviving hanging on a thread isMay's mom.
Because May's mom has to deal with the father 24/7 and Mae's
mom really does want to be her mom.

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And like, she tries to show affection by telling Mae to eat
up and that she has dessert. But before she can even like
continue her sentence, she's interrupted by narcissism who
has the audacity to backhandly continue to give in to Mae.
I don't know what that means. Yeah, I don't know what that

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means. I mean.
No, I know what it means. I do know what it means.
OK, that candidly like give in to her meaning like he's giving
her what she wants, but not really because she's not allowed
to make it obvious. Like she's allowed to be with
UMM and she can do whatever she wants, but she can't make it

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obvious because people still know that she is his daughter.
Yeah, that's true. Which is not really letting her
do whatever she wants. And it's still only him thinking
about himself. And you can never, ever, ever
convince me that this man has changed.
No, no, this was the one. Well GMMTV did 2 crimes in

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Pluto. First is officer Hadi single at
the end? That was insane.
Second crime is Dad getting a redemption arc in the last
episode. That was insane and unnecessary
and I didn't need that. Nobody needed that.
There's no pay off to this man having a redemption arc at the
end. No.
No. I like us yeah us the US ending

(01:29:53):
where the moms just like bullshit the more.
Yeah, that would have made way more sense.
And then mom shows up at the endwhen they're doing their wedding
photo shoot. Like it would have made more
sense that they're like now they're one big happy family and
then Mays family is there, but they're not.
It's just me Ma. So like it would have been
better if like the dad never hada redemption arc, Mae and her
mother make up and then Mae's mom and Mima and umm are there

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at the wedding. Like that would have been made
more sense. But like this man getting a
rushed redemption arc was ridiculous and one of the
crimes. Wasn't even an arc, it was no
like oh I'm good now, bye. Right.
It was an off screen arc we never see and there's no payoff
to it is I mean, like you could remove it from the story and the
story would be the same. Like it it doesn't add anything

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at all to the story to have him suddenly have a redemption arc.
Like it doesn't do anything. There's no payoff.
Like again, if you had the big wedding at the end where all the
families are there unhappy, likethere's a payoff.
There's no payoff to this. It's just like they get an
orchid. Like that was the what the fuck
was that? Like it was no payoff to him
having a redemption arc. It was insane.

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And it's on screen, so it's not even believable.
It's one of the few crimes GMMTVever really convinced like
they're they're really solid most of the time.
This was unnecessary. It didn't make any sense and had
no payoff. And I'll never be over how Devil
was. No, and nor should you be.
But we will rant about all this again when we later.

(01:31:21):
And then finale. And it will be longer and you
will hear the same thing. Yes.
Anyway I. Hope you enjoy the previous.
Back to the scene, May is channeling the advice I gave her
back in the day and stands up toher father.
And by standing up, I mean she physically stands up to give
herself the power in the situation and she slides a check

(01:31:42):
to him so face down, which is her attorney fee for the.
Case I just love the way she does this.
First of all, the hand in the pocket, Hot.
Second of all, the way she slides it, no one says anything.
And she just like, slides it, staring daggers at the dad and
everybody else's eyes is lookingat the check, not me.

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They're just like, I love it. The silence was so good in the
scene, the way it made it more powerful.
The fact that nobody's talking, nobody's saying anything.
It's just like, what a power move.
It's just so good. I love it.
Evian she is bad ass in the scene because oh, we'll get

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there anyway. So May tells him that it's the
price of her freedom and I am now calling the dad narcissism.
Apparently. So narcissism mocks the amount
saying her freedom cost so little.
And May smiles and like, scoffs a bit at this, and like tells
him that it's just a little extra.
I'm sorry. The way her face turns into this

(01:32:49):
like, mocking like smile where she's like, I got a secret and
you don't know it. That smile is going to haunt me
all the way to girl rules because like, this is Bambi to
me. This is Bambi.
Like films going to kill it. I can't wait.
They're all going to kill it andI can't wait.
I know I can't wait. Oh.

(01:33:13):
My God this is giving Bambi thiswhole scene and I can't wait.
Can you tell we're excited for girl rolls?
We only bring it up, I think, inevery episode.
I'm. So excited.
OK, so then we cut to narcissismAKA amazed dad after saying this

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and you actually do see his facefalter slightly and the check
that he's holding like starts totilt back a little bit.
And it's indicating that he was caught off guard by this a bit
because he's not used to this response from her or probably
anyone, because who stands up tothis?
Scary dude. Also who refuses money.

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Money is everything. And she's like, I don't want
money. What I want is you cannot buy is
basically the scene. So yeah, he's like, oh, he's not
used to that because for him, money means more than obviously
his family. Yeah, but I love that we do see,
like, it's it's just very slight.
But you do see him falter. And May tells him that she's

(01:34:15):
already paid for her freedom with the pride that she has in
her profession and tells him that he's completely destroyed
her. Now, I wish we didn't tell him
that. I mean, he did.
But like, that is giving him more power.
But it is the truth. And now it isn't about him and
his feelings. So he has a sour face and is

(01:34:36):
starting to get pissed off because now it's about her
feelings and that's not good because narcissism.
And she then asked him if the price is enough for her to
finally have true freedom because she knows that she will
never be free until she can get narcissism to stop holding his
power over her because it's constantly there.

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You are my daughter, you are under me.
I rule over you. Yep, Yep.
Yep, and May's mom, who I still feel so sorry for.
Like I cannot imagine having to deal with a guy like this in a
place that's supposed to be safefor you.
Like your home is supposed to bethe place where you can go to

(01:35:19):
escape and this she's not escaping here.
No. May's mom gets May's attention
and slightly shakes her head no because I'm sure that she knows
exactly what this man is capableof and no matter what happens
he's most likely going to take out the most of this on Mae's
mom. So I think this might be a self

(01:35:42):
preservation thing for herself in addition to trying to avoid
conflict between the two becauseyou don't want your family
members who you love. Well, I don't know if she loves
the dad. I hope she does.
I mean there's probably conflicting feelings for her but
I don't. I just scared of like what he
could do to her. Yeah, I do.

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OK, So this scene I don't want. I mean this scene, but like, a
lot of the scenes make me reallywonder about May's mom and what
her life has been like married to him.
Because her reaction to May hereis really interesting because
what is May doing? May is trying to unshackle
herself from his control, right?And as we see over and over

(01:36:26):
again, Mom is very much shackledunder this control and she
submits to it constantly, whereas May doesn't, OK, until
she's like literally beaten downand back into a corner and has
no other trust. But May tries to resist, right?
So I do wonder if like Mom ever tried to escape in a similar way

(01:36:47):
that Mae was doing right now, but was like, quote, beat down
for it either physically or emotionally by this narcissist
she's married to? Or was she so conditioned by
tradition and culture to be, quote, like the good subservient
wife that she internalized this abuse And now that she's got

(01:37:10):
this daughter who's looking to rebel, like the thing that she
was always afraid to do, like isshe like scared on May's behalf
because she was always scared todo it.
And that that's why she respondsthe way she does to May in the
scene where it's like fear more than anything.
So I do wonder, we don't get a really a lot of them.
And I had a good reason. It's fine.

(01:37:32):
But I just like wonder about hermother and like, what actually
is the situation? Because like it gets weird at
the end where they're like suddenly your dad's all better.
And so like like was the way Jamie MTV wrote it, it was like,
it almost like the dad wasn't always like this and then became
like this. And so like, I just wonder like
what the hell their marriage really was like.
Because then at the end it's like everything's fine and he's

(01:37:53):
loving again, like again. So like indicating that like he
wasn't always like like this, but like it doesn't make sense
to me. It seems like he's always power
hungry, obsessed about status, and that scene that would always
be there wouldn't be like new. I think this family dynamic was
an afterthought. I do too.
It doesn't read as consistent tobe quite the way like in Blank

(01:38:17):
like the families are very consistent, you know the way
they were written. But like the story is more like
in Entwined with all the family drama, whereas here it's not
like. Yes, you don't really know
what's going. On right, it's more about like I
and May and in the novel, the novel is, is written purely from
I's point of view. So like I think GMMTV was trying

(01:38:40):
to do the family drama thing andlike flesh out these family,
like this family, but there's like not a lot to go on.
So and then they're like, well, we have to make it happy.
And then like just like right asweird sometimes.
But I do like that they did write some of the stuff because
it does flesh out may a little bit more and explain like why
she is the way she is, like how she had an isolated childhood.

(01:39:01):
This was the control that she broke free of and how she did it
and like why she ended up in this case.
And like it does help, but like the characters don't read as
consistent to me. So it's really hard to read into
them is my point. Like if anybody else feels that
way, let me know or you have more insight or what you think
about these parents and they're dynamic.

(01:39:23):
I would love to know cuz like it's hard to like get a good
grief on like who they are. It's just really hard.
You can only assume things. It's there's nothing to go on.
Yeah. So May's mom trying to get her
to, like, not have conflict here.
But May has made-up her mind to stand her ground.

(01:39:45):
And good for her because I'm glad that she's in a place where
she feels confident to do this. And she tells him that she has
paid him with all her heart and now she just wants to love
someone and she hopes that he can give her that.
But of course, narcissism barelylistened to that probably, and

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was only thinking about how he thinks he is being wronged so
he's just shaking his head as she walks away.
So she gets the last word here. She does.
And then Mae's mom tries to get up to go after her because
again, she wants to be with her daughter, but the dad grabs her

(01:40:28):
arm so forcefully as she's aboutto pass and like like it's, it's
a tight grab. And he gives her this ugly look
and like physically throws her arm away because of course he
has to assert his dominance since his little ego was
bruised. Yep, and this is not the first

(01:40:50):
time we've seen him do that withthe mom.
Like he did it when they went towhen they were yelling at when
he was yelling at Mae in her apartment in her house.
And I showed up like he did the same thing where he like throws
her hand. So he's been doing this for like
a long time is like the implication.
It's just. Fun.
I just feel so bad for her. I wish, I wish we could get her

(01:41:13):
out. Yes.
OK. So then we come to find that
this is the same night as the accident where May became black.
There's a lot that. Happened this day.
This is the worst day ever. Like, Oh my God.
Forget 2020, May never wants to go back to 2023.

(01:41:34):
Seriously. And May's trying to call UMM
after this confrontation with her father which makes sense.
She's like this whole thing happened.
I want to talk to UMM who I justdid all this for because I love
her and she knows UMM just landed and wants her to call her
immediately. So UMM didn't answer.

(01:41:56):
Was UMM ignoring her or was she still at work or busy trying to
get home and you know, sleep? Because we saw in another
flashback that she was like sleeping because, you know,
she's up early in the day. I'm assuming she doesn't have
service because later it's like UMM has service.
So I think she was just like, I know you landed, call me

(01:42:18):
immediately when you can. I think that's what this was.
Yeah, I was like, maybe she didn't land yet and because
usually when you get, I don't know.
I think that maybe, UMM didn't turn airplane mode off on the
phone yet because she's working.It's not like she's in the
flight. She's like, yay, you know, she's
got to, like, get people off theplane.
And she's working, Yeah. OK, so May pulls over because

(01:42:42):
there's something in her tire that I can't really make out
because it looks like it's twisted on top.
A little bit. I think there's some kind of
nail like. It's just so dark that it's hard
to tell it is. But it's some kind of nail
thing. But OK, my question is like when
did this happen? OK, 'cause obviously Kasul

(01:43:03):
sabotaged her car. So like when did he do this?
Like I'm wondering if he tailed her to her parents house
somehow. And like that seems to make the
most sense that he ended up at somehow he ended up at her
parents, which like how he he got especially.
If this if this happened right after court.

(01:43:23):
I don't know that it did. Like that's the thing.
Like I I think May was wearing askirt at the courthouse here.
She's wearing pants. I don't know if this is the same
day. Like it's just like you're
getting the sequence of like howwe got to her being blinded.
But like, I don't know if this was the same day.
No idea. It could be because later we get

(01:43:45):
the flashback with Kasol and I and they're pissed off about the
outcome. But I don't know if this was the
same. I don't know if this is the same
day, like May's wearing something else that maybe she
went home and changed. I don't know either way.
Like he had to fall because like, yeah, I don't know because
I assume if she changed clothes,she like went home then went to

(01:44:06):
her parents house. So like he was tailing her
somehow. And then while she was in one of
the houses, I guess put the likesabotage the the tires with
whatever nail device he put in there.
And then like tail like tailed her home.
Here's the deal though. Sometimes when you put nails and
tires, they don't like deflate immediately.

(01:44:28):
It's like, how long was she tailing her to like wait for
this to happen? Why did it take her?
Why did he she only noticed him now it seems like he was tailing
her for a while. Like, you know, it's.
It's very weird. That's what I was thinking,
because like with the nail in there and it stays in there,
then it's kind of blocking the air and it creates that seal
stuff. Sometimes it's fine because like

(01:44:50):
that's why. Like if you find a nail, don't
remove it. Yeah, but these look like, I
don't know, they look like hooksor something.
So maybe they deflate the car tire faster.
So like it would have had to have been in her parents house
because there's no way he did this at the courthouse and then
she got all the way. You know what I mean?
It must have been in her parentshouse, like the timing.
And he was just like, what? Stalking her for like a long

(01:45:13):
time? Like it just.
I would love to know the. Timing of this this is just kind
of weird. Yes, I would like a whole
timeline. That would be great.
Yeah. But Caso after this, after May
stops, yeah, pulls overcomes, zooming right to her on a
motorcycle. And then we get this extended

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version of the PTSD flashback that we got in Part 2 of this
episode, where May is desperately trying to escape as
her attacker is playing up that he is coming for her in like,
terribly, like, just trying to elicit fear out of her.
And like, again, we'll get into the other point of view, too.

(01:45:57):
This isn't OK. Nothing with me.
Nothing. About this was.
OK, but May dials 191, which if you're in America, it's their
version of 911 obviously. Anyway, the attacker who we now
know is Kasol, what we did in the show, it was alleged.
But anyway it's like you aren't getting out of the car.

(01:46:20):
And no dude, why would she? Because you're literally aiming
a baseball bat at her and that'snot what someone does when you
get attacked. Like he didn't even say get out
of the car before this. Like why would she get out of
the car? That's insane.
And I guess he remembers that henever actually asked her to get
out of the car. So he then screams get out of

(01:46:42):
the car. And I'm amazed that she can hear
this through the window because like I'm pretty sure like the
windows aren't open. Like I understand you can hear
some things but it's usually like muffled.
And he's got his helmet on too, so he must really be yelling
very loudly. And like, aren't there people?
I I didn't I don't remember likethe scene but aren't there

(01:47:04):
houses nearby? Yeah, there are.
They're like on a side street behind some houses.
Where are these people? Noise.
I don't know. I assume somebody hears
something and calls 911 because or 191 because.
She blacks out at the end of this and he leaves.
He flees the scene. So.

(01:47:25):
Like somebody had to. Notice this commotion and like
get her to a hospital. I don't know if 191.
Had her on hold or something or?If they if they were trying to
talk the whole time because she didn't have the phone to her ear
at some point. So like I'm wondering if they
were like, ma'am, what's going on?

(01:47:45):
Hello. But they are still.
Like on the phone? When May gets a notification
that UMM can now be reached. So that's when she turns off
airplane mode and. Apparently, umm.
Is more helpful than emergency services, so Mattie hangs up

(01:48:06):
with them and calls UMM instead.This is insane.
And then we get. Her screaming for UMM to help
her. Because you know, Umm's right
there and she can help. But you may be wondering what
can OOM do that emergency services?
Can't. And you know, literally this is
exactly what I think every single time I watch this.

(01:48:30):
Is that exact thought the only possible thing I could?
Think of. For to be in May's head.
Right now is that. OOM air quotes which is really I
was her original protector. Who gave her?
Like the confidence? And also like, that's who she's
turning to because that's the person that makes her feel safe.
However, she's at an airport right now.

(01:48:51):
She's still on the plane probably.
What is she supposed to do? I don't know, emergency service,
you stay with them even. If you're on hold, I don't know
why you'd be on. Hold, I don't know how it works,
but yeah, I don't know how the Idon't know how it works in
Thailand. Could.
Could maybe? It's defunded, who knows?
And there's just, there's a wait, but like, yeah, this was

(01:49:13):
insane. But I.
Think this is. A this poorly calculated move I
think speaks to how out of control everything feels for May
and how fucking scared she is that she's not thinking
rationally like she normally does or strategically.
She's just like, I'm scared, OOM, because this made no
goddamn sense for her to do this.
So I think like to your point, she's like, umm, save me from

(01:49:37):
bullies. Umm, come save me from a bully.
And she's just so fucking scared.
She's not thinking. I think that's what it is.
But this was insane. This was like Jan breaking into
a police station. They're like, what are you
doing? And then being like officer
hottie, how dare you. And it's like, girl, you are
breaking into a police station. Horror movie level decision
making. Yes, really.

(01:49:58):
Of course you don't. Go into the dark forest.
Yeah, when there's open the. Door.
You know what I mean? It's.
That and then Kasol breaks the. Window.
I guess we should also point outthat like.
Meg can't escape because she dropped the.
Keys when she went to go look atthe the tire and cannot start
the car so that's why she can't escape.

(01:50:22):
Good catch, she's trapped. Terrible.
Terrible position to be. Trapped in.
Yes, and OM can't do a. Goddamn thing about this.
Also this is. What is this May's signature?
Where? She's like just yells at these.
Twins and she's like help me now.
No contacts. No no contacts.

(01:50:44):
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
So this. I too like oh help me and I was
like what the fuck? Like you love me enough?
Just to come no matter what. So I'm not even going to give
you the context, Just come. You just come.
You'll get to know if I'm dying when you get here.
You'll figure it out. Oh, also, where are you?
I was. Supposed to find you unless they
have the tracker apps because I later on I has this tracking

(01:51:07):
maze phone she has like find my friends on or whatever and I'm
like why don't you do this? I I was thinking when because we
see maze phone screen when it says OOM.
When it's I calling her or she'scalling I or something like that
and like does she have two Ooms in her phone?
Well, I has OOM cell phone. I is using.

(01:51:29):
Cell phone to contact me. Got it.
Never mind. All right.
Thank you. I was really.
Confused for a second, so then we go back to present May who
says. Those who do wrong must be
punished. And when she's saying this, May
is like staring off into the distance and I.
Do wonder if there's a double meaning to this statement also,

(01:51:51):
because again is me talking about Kasul's bad karma.
Meaning must be pun, Bad actionsmust be punished.
That's like a karma. Thing or is.
She talking about herself because again, she's the one
that is the reason that Batman. Got off.
On lesser charges for screwing over Ben.
And that's actually what led to the blindness.

(01:52:13):
So I think that like initially she was like, my blindness was
my punishment for this bad deed I did to protect umm, which was
get the rich boy off of a murdercharge or whatever.
Not a murder charge, but like, you know, a disabling charge.
So now this casual stuff is kindof in the background and I I
wonder. If part of her is.
Wondering like if she might loseeye over Ben's case.

(01:52:39):
And that's the ultimate bad. Cop karma right, because if I is
connected to Casol and I is the one that dated Casol, which is
true, she's like well, where does eyes loyalty lie as I
involved with Ben like because Ithink she kind of put together
these are all connected and she's like fuck, I could lose
eye and that would be like the ultimate irony right, because

(01:53:00):
she was trying to she took the case to protect her love who was
quote umm, who she thought was Iat the time and by doing so,
that's how we ended up in this whole situation to begin with.
So like what? This is just a literary irony of
its finest that like ultimately she could lose the thing she was
trying to preserve, right? That and.
Caused this whole. Fucking clusterfuck, you know?

(01:53:23):
And is this her being like, yeah, I guess like I have to be.
Punished too, if this is. Really.
My punishment like damn poor May, there's so much going on
every single. Line is always layered.
Which is why we're here. Yeah.
Talking about this for so long. Yeah, exactly.
That's what made Pluto fun to dive into.

(01:53:44):
Because there's there's a lot. Of double meetings, especially
with May when she says stuff because again, she knows exactly
what she's doing so her words are very purposeful when she
says them. So we then head over to I, who
picks up her journal to write and she.
Thinks for a moment before writing, and she's very cutely

(01:54:06):
thinking before she writes, so it's just cute.
I just love her and she writes. I just understood this feeling
from the Little Prince. If you come at 4:00 in the
afternoon, I'll start being happy by three.
When you told me you liked reading novels, I suddenly
wanted to write 1. And it's just like this
anticipation of knowing the novel will make me happy will

(01:54:26):
make I happy in return. And it's just so cute.
First of all, yes, that feeling I so relatable because it's just
that anticipation and you just you see it earlier in the
episode too, where I just like so excited to see May.
It's just so cute. They're so cute.

(01:54:47):
I. Love eyes.
Happiness. It's really, really, really
cute. So, first of all, the little
Prince. Comparison is just proof that I
has it so bad, like so bad for May because like you said, this
is the anticipation of like, I'mgoing to see you.
I'm already happy because I knowI get to see you, right?

(01:55:08):
And your point about the novel, like that's the ultimate
motivator to be like, May's going to love this.
So like, it's the ultimate motivator to keep going even
when this gets challenging. And I love that she's again,
look at her headspace, Little Prince.
What's Little Prince A? Novel so she's already like back
in her headspace of like making novel comparisons to May and to

(01:55:29):
explain her feelings for May, which is really fucking cute and
says a lot about her. Like her passions are coming
alive again because of May and since we now know.
From Pang. That I.
Used to. Like writing in her journal as a
kid. Do you think she's been
journaling since the incident with Meemaw?

(01:55:52):
Because that seemed to be like the death of I, the writer for
the time being. Like when she burned the story
and was like fuck this shit. Or like, did she start
journaling again when she met May?
Because this particular journal she's writing and she's like
starting at the beginning. So I just wonder was that I
continue journaling or is like again?

(01:56:13):
Is this like? Her revival of journaling, what
she loved to do. Did that come along with meeting
May also? I think it could be both like.
Either one, because what do? You think?
Yeah, really that. Was her only way to escape, so I
wonder if she. Did keep that like it would make

(01:56:35):
sense that she didn't and she's just picking.
It up again. I'm of that thought only because
like, her escapism was reading. It was writing, then Mima's
like, then she used to bike, it'd be useless, then she'd be
got on the bike. Journey with Ben and.
Her friends and then was like, my life became about my friends.
So I feel like she started doingthis again when she met May as a

(01:56:57):
way to just like sort out her feelings.
And then it evolved back into writing fiction and not just
about herself. And so again, which like, that's
another way that like may gives her life again.
It's reconnecting I with who shewas before that really damning
incident with Meemaw. Because thanks to paying, we do
know that like, I always loved doing this.

(01:57:19):
And then like, gave up what she loved basically because the
world beat her down, basically told her she wasn't worthy of
it. Poor I, poor I.
It always ends. With poor I.
So the next. Day.
I gets back from the shrine and is met with Meemaw with.
A customer and it's important toknow that we had definitely had

(01:57:45):
to take the time to watch I takeher motorcycle gear off again
and then very gayly run her hands through her hair.
It was appreciate that shots OK and again I have to point out I
undressing was not. In slow motion, it's only I
putting full gear on, not the undressing.
So we have to get to the hair thing.

(01:58:07):
Yeah, I would take that in slow motion any day.
Back to Meemaw though she is. Dealing with a customer saying
something is. Cheaper online but Meemaw tells
him that is important that what online is imported but her
product is made locally and he should support Thai businesses.
She isn't wrong. You should shop local when

(01:58:28):
possible. People also we learned this in
Wales store as well. Just saying.
They would, you know. Mima has a shop there too.
Anyway, Mima notices Eyes back and asks her if she's eaten, and
Eyes tells her that she's finished the food after the
offering ceremony and that it may help with Umm's recovery.

(01:58:52):
So Mima responds that she hopes.I can do this every day because
it helps. Her sister's recovery and you
just this. I love this exchange between the
two of them because you just see.
The. Change in the way they
communicate and I is no longer upset or jealous when Mima is
focused on UMM in her recovery because I still smiling.

(01:59:14):
It's not like oh she asked me how like if I ate was eating
like that's her showing me affection.
But no she's going back to UMM now.
So she really only cares about UMM.
Like no it's like oh I know she cares about me.
She cares about both of us and Ijust love that she's actually
smiling when. Meanwhile, is talking.
About helping her sister. It's really cute, but I has big

(01:59:37):
plans for the day so. She darts off.
And I mean the way I flies into the.
Shop and she just has a. Smile on her face and she's just
like so happy and upbeat this morning.
It must be 3:00 I guess. I guess so with I gone.

(01:59:59):
It leaves Mima with her customerwho is about to put his foot in
his mouth because he says that they should prepare for the
worst since Oom's condition is severe and this pisses Mima off
and she. Grabs her sponge.
That she was going to sell him back and like she says, she's

(02:00:19):
not going to sell it to him because his mouth is too filthy
to be cleaned. Like damn Mima, this is
something I would say and like you.
You've said multiple times they are the.
Same they are. But meanwhile's not going to
have him putting this negative energy into the universe, right?
You don't need that, no. So the customer takes his money

(02:00:41):
back and walks. Off very.
Confused saying he was just stating the truth but my
question is like why is this guymansplaining?
Boom's condition to Mima like ishe a doctor?
A doctor that's. Arguing over the price of
sponges, Like, get a life, bro. Like she's upset about her, like

(02:01:03):
granddaughter. And then like, what are you
doing in here? Being like her condition is what
do you know about her condition?You know what I mean?
Yeah. Also, like, how does he know
anything? I assume that, like, community
and people talk. Yeah, that's.
But also the like. How up to date your information
like she goes? And sees him every.
Day, you know what I mean? Like what?
Like why are you mansplaining this to her?
Like I understand that he's likeyou got to prepare yourself.

(02:01:27):
For the worst, but like who? Are you that you're giving her
this advice? You know, don't tell somebody
how to grieve. Yeah, like you're not.
Close. I feel like you're.
Not close enough to her to like,really give her this advice and
mansplain UN's condition, you know what I mean?
You're not a doctor if you are, you're really poor.
Unsuccessful when arguing about the price of.

(02:01:48):
Sponges. Seriously.
Seriously, Like what the fuck? Anyway, Eye comes back down.
Quickly and meanwhile asks whereshe's going.
And why she has a rose? OK, I need to talk about this.
So when I first like burst. Into the shop and she's like,

(02:02:09):
I'm back from the shrine. You see her holding this, the
food from the the shrine offering and then she's a
bouquet. Of flowers she.
Didn't just buy one. She had a bouquet like she had
multiple flowers. So I imagine what happened was
she went back in the in the backto like put on her jacket and
stuff and then carefully was going through that bouquet and

(02:02:29):
being like, what's the prettiestrose?
And she picked out the best one to then bring to May.
But my question is what did she do with the other roses?
Like did she leave them? For me, Ma, why didn't she?
Bring all of them. She just brought a single rose
to May. What the what happened to the
other ones? I wonder if that's like
something that you want to. Sell in the.
Shop or like. Do something.

(02:02:50):
With it Or just give them to Mima.
They're going to go to Umm's shrine later.
What were the rest of them for? I don't know.
So. But we still aren't
communicating about me, no, but between Mima and I.
But like, that's a whole situation and we don't have time
to get into it yet so that's fine.

(02:03:13):
And I is being her cheeky self. And kisses meanwhile's cheek and
then says that the Rose smells better.
What an asshole, seriously. And meanwhile calls her wicked.
While I runs off. To her motorcycle where we see
her give the Rose a little kiss before tucking it away and see
her redress in her right riding gear.

(02:03:34):
But like just a little kiss withthe Rose and like tucking it
away was so cute. So I have thoughts about this
because it's it is adorable. But like, remember I as a?
DoorDash driver so on the back of her bike she has that like
cooler container. She could have easily put the
Rose in there to keep it safe while she like rides over to

(02:03:56):
May's house, right? So to me, like keeping it tucked
in her jacket where like the flower bud is exposed seemed
really risky. It's almost like calling umm
instead of the police when somebody's breaking into your
car, you know what I mean? It seemed really risky and
illogical because like what if it falls out while you're

(02:04:16):
driving? What are you going to do?
And then? What happens if the wind?
Knocks off the pedals like you clearly picked this one Rose you
wanted to give her so this seemed really like illogical for
her to do. But just like when May was like.
Not thinking. Clearly because emotions are
heightened because she's scared.I think I is in La La land about

(02:04:38):
seeing May because it's 3:00 andshe's excited and so she does
something that's really romanticbecause that's how she's feeling
right now, right? She's keeping Mays gift close to
her heart, secure against her body during the travel when
she's going to ride over there. And then she kisses it and it's
it's just really sweet. To your point, the way May the
way I is treating May as gift, it's really adorable but

(02:05:02):
illogical because I think she's in La La land right now.
And also I need to point out Meemaw's in the background
watching I. Do this.
So I wonder if Mima's like what the hell has gotten into I?
Because what is I doing right? And I has never done anything.
What is I? What is this?
This is weird, right? Do you see?
Mima be like. What is she doing?

(02:05:28):
She's like. She's been happy, but never.
This happy? Why is she?
Kissing roses. Who is this person?
There's a. Person, right?
I think Mima's putting. Together I has a person.
Because I never really had like,a person.
She did this forever. And I wonder what Mima's putting
together about this, because she's like this.

(02:05:49):
Is weird coming from. I If only she knew she will, but
I think. I think Mima's getting
suspicious something's going on with the eye.
Because she's paying more attention to I right to your
point where she was like, did you eat yet?
How are you doing? Like she's paying more attention
to her and then she has been. So yeah, that is true.

(02:06:09):
Because now what is this? Together?
Yeah. So in May, no.
So when? I shows up to May she is.
Greeted by Todd and she's not expecting that yeah where's the
base expecting that where's the mate well made I was like
where's the pretty lady like I didn't ask for this and she's
very like confused why he's there she's.

(02:06:30):
Like didn't make sure. You away last time and Todd
doesn't really address that, he just says that.
He brought a guest to visit May.And we find out it's May's
ex-girlfriend, Floyd. We don't actually get a name in
this season, but it's Floyd who is looking a little too close to
May right now. Yeah, and May.

(02:06:52):
No, Floyd. Sorry.
Keep bringing. The wrong names May's here.
May is here. May is floy.
Brought May an entire bouquet ofroses and so poor I has to watch
this cute scene. Between the two of them.
Where Floyd tells May to smell them and May pretends to to be

(02:07:14):
allergic to them, making Ploy laugh and play it off, saying
she's never allergic to flowers and this is just proving their
closeness to. I and that there is history.
There because at this point I doesn't know that this is May's
ex, but it doesn't mean that she's not jealous because
there's another pretty lady withher pretty lady.

(02:07:36):
So that signals there's warningsthere.
I mean, also like look at May. May is being playful.
May is not playful with anybody.Except her.
So that's the other warning thatlike, oh, May is being playful
with this person. That's different.
Danger. Danger, yes, that's true.
And she needs to know who this is, so she asked.
Tan who this woman is and that'swhen he tells her that ploy is

(02:08:00):
May's ex. But he doesn't stop there
because of course he doesn't. He makes sure to rub in eyes
face that ploy is May's first girlfriend quote the one she can
never forget a favorite ex. What the hell Tom?
Like what the hell is that? This is the twisting the knife.
Episode. Everybody's twisted knives at

(02:08:20):
everybody. 'S backs.
Seriously. Lloyd then plays with May's
hair. A bit showing.
Even more. Intimate closeness between them
and when this happens it's in slow.
Motion. This part is in slow motion so
it starts actually with I watching this go down and eyes

(02:08:45):
in slow motion. Then it cuts to Ploy touching
May's hair, which is also in slow motion.
And I think this is a reflectionof how I is feeling like her
world is grinding to a halt right now and so everything
slows down because that's how I.Feels in this.
Moment. Oh, you poor kid.
You poor kid. Yes, so eyes.

(02:09:07):
Left there feeling alone, confused, sad, jealous, all the
feels. And she looks down at her
singular rose. And right now that rose
represents eyes, feelings. It's her love.
But it's all alone. I mean, she could have brought
the whole bouquet, but she did not.
She brought, I didn't. Realize she had a whole damn.

(02:09:27):
She had a whole damn bouquet. She brought the one rose, but
look at what ploy. Brought like she brought like
$100 like, you know, American dollar like bouquet like a real
fancy as fuck. Like it came like wrapped in
like, I don't know, fancy wrapping paper.
There's more than just roses in there.
Like it was like a well done arranged bouquet.
Whereas when I comes in the shop, she has just roses wrapped

(02:09:51):
in newspaper. Like she obviously went to like
a local vendor. It was like, give me roses ploy
went all out and went to like probably went to like an upscale
fancy flower shop and she's likethat it's real expensive.
And these were these flowers specifically that's got
customized. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly what they like. But like the fancy.
Arrangement is what I'm getting at, yeah.

(02:10:13):
So yeah. At this moment, I is definitely.
Thinking about how she can even begin to compete with this
person who already knows me so well and is able to bring a big
ass bouquet of flowers to her, but is also able to elicit the
same emotions from her that I has.

(02:10:37):
Yeah, this is definitely like this is.
So early in the episode we had like.
Pangs inferiority complex towards May.
Now we have eyes inferiority complex coming out towards Ploy.
Because that's a look at how Ploy is dressed.
Not only does she get her give May a fancy as fuck bouquet of
flowers look at Ploy. Ploy looks wealthy just like

(02:10:58):
May. OK so then I is like feeling
inferior again right? Because she can't compete when
it comes to money and that's like part of Mays orbit.
And so like, it really sucks that I.
Is back in this place. Feeling inferior because she was
finally getting over her inferiority complex towards OOM.
And now here's this other personcoming in who's close to May,

(02:11:20):
who's making her feel inferior all over again.
Like in these like 2 seconds that she's witnessing this and
it's like, and Tan's like, oh, it's her favorite ex also, by
the way, it's like just rubbing more salt in the wound, you
know? Like I was like fuck, I can't.
How do I compete with their history?
That's real. I'm still pretended to be umm.
And then like she has money and she's on May's social level.

(02:11:43):
Fuck, like I can't compete with that.
So shitty. It's just not a great situation
to be in for us, no, and it's a really rude way to end the.
Episode GMMT. Yeah, it is.
It seriously is. It is.
But but here we are that it. Brings us to the end of episode

(02:12:05):
4. But to the.
Our section of Taylor Swift songs and which relate to this
episode. Yeah, series.
It's actually quite a few. Yeah, I.
There's there are a. Lot I mean Taylor Swift like.
She's got something for everything but I focused on.

(02:12:27):
Hanging her. Little heartbreak with I
because. It's just such a.
Big scene and it is such a big moment in Pang's life and I
thought that champagne problems worked for them because.
I really did break. Her and the specifically the
lyrics. Your heart was glass.

(02:12:47):
I dropped it. You had a speech.
You're speechless. Love slipped beyond your
reaches. And I couldn't give a reason.
Champagne problems. I mean, her reason is that she
just doesn't love her. But yeah, like to hang.
It's just like, why can't you still like, why can't you love
me? Well, here's the deal.
She's like, why do you like me? I couldn't give a reason because

(02:13:07):
Chao said so. So like, it's true.
And she was like, it is what it is.
Paying champagne problems. Yeah, I think that fits such a
great song that fits them. It is a.
Very good song. I love the way it's sung too.
I have two first is August and Ithink August fits paying an

(02:13:28):
officer hottie's like realizations in this episode.
So to piggyback off the paying scene and then the officer
hottie scene where she's in the stairwell and she's like
witnessing this fucking thing. So the chorus goes that's
relevant is but I can see us lost in the memory.
August slipped away like a moment in time because it was
never mine. So this is paying holding on to

(02:13:50):
her feelings for I that were never reciprocated and the
moment in time refers to paying and I's relationship when they
were younger and how it changed when I like hit puberty and
started dating Ben basically. And then it completely shattered
when I kissed May and suddenly has feelings because it was

(02:14:11):
never mine. Like from paying his point of
view. And then the chorus keeps going
and I can. See us twisted in bed sheets.
August slipped. Away like a bottle of wine
because you were never mind. So this is Officer Hadi's point
of view, right? So she's holding on to paying
and what their relationship was in the beginning.
Like I can see us twisted in bedsheets because that's what it

(02:14:31):
used to be like and that's what she was trying to recreate at
the beginning of the episode andit didn't work out.
But their relationship completely changed because of
pangs, unresolved feelings for Iso like it slipped away.
And then the bottle of wine reference I think is fitting
too, because it's like drinking away your sorrow to numb the
pain because like, Officer Hadi hasn't dealt with the reality of

(02:14:52):
their situation. She's just trying to like drown
it in like, let's get Kanji. Let's do things like to like
avoid the actual problem with a copay mechanism.
So I thought that that like fit them and those realizations.
Yeah, or or obviously hottie. I listen.

(02:15:16):
She deserves. Better.
OK. And then the last one I have is
about May, and that's you're. On your own, kid.
So this is I think it fits this episode when it comes to May's
relationship with her father. I in general this is May, but
really like the father stuff. So the chorus that's relevant is
from sprinkler splashes to fireplace ashes.

(02:15:37):
I gave my blood, sweat and tearsfor this.
I hosted parties and starved my body like I'd be saved by a
perfect kiss. So this is May living under her
father's tyranny as a child and as an adult, and where she like
lost herself in stories to escape.
But her encounter with Quote Oomchanged her life forever.

(02:16:02):
And like, she gave everything toget out from under her.
Father's Time like. Thumb like blood, sweat and
tears for this, for her freedom,her freedom to just love this
person that later she's reunitedwith and made her life worth
living. And that's like the hope of
that, like the perfect kiss thatwill save her from this like

(02:16:23):
horrible existence that she has.And then it keeps going.
The jokes weren't funny. I took the.
Money, my friends from. Home don't know what to say.
I looked around in a blood soaked gown and I saw something
they can't take away. So this is me taking on the case
to save UMM from her father and how she felt backed into a

(02:16:44):
corner with no way out. But like she learned something
from the experience, right? So it keeps going because there
were pages turned with the bridges burned.
Everything you lose is a step you take.
So make the friendship bracelets.
Take the moment and taste it. You've got no reason to be
afraid. So May took that case despite
knowing it was terrible and it tarnished her reputation as a

(02:17:05):
lawyer and then she was later blinded for it.
But she learned lessons from this experience, right?
Everything you lose is a step you take.
So she discovered a new perspective on life by walking
the world through a blind person, and how she can then use
her powers as an attorney to make the world a better place
for disabled people. And she, at the end of the day,

(02:17:27):
is still this badass, capable person she was before, because
she's got no reason to be afraid.
That's a great song for us. It's a great song in general,
but yeah, that that perfectly matched up.
But also I know it wasn't in this part but like you're on
your own. Kid, you always.
Have been that's literally her childhood.

(02:17:48):
You're on your it's her as an adult too.
You're on your own, kid. Always have.
But like, that's just May. May is so isolated even now.
Just such a great song. It's just.
Very may, but I thought it really fit.
This like the case and the. Dad in the background stuff
really nicely. All right, Big Energy award.

(02:18:09):
What was the big energy? Award for you, Jan.
Yeah, Jan, you know, she has a lot of big gay energy.
Honestly, she might have. Does in the show, honestly the
big gay audacity energy? Seriously though, Jan has a lot
of big gay energy. Yeah.
Jan and Officer Hottie I think. Wins hands down.

(02:18:30):
I will give honorable mention toI and the Rose because that was
reckless and insane the way she rolled over there with the Rose
exposed, but that was really gay.
So I'll give it to I but Jan Janfor sure, yes, but also that
rose was really cute. It was.
Cute, but had a lot of big. Energy.

(02:18:51):
Because, girl, that was impractical.
All right, so we've come to my section.
Where I give you a word to use in a review.
Or comment wherever you can. And today we're going to do
something else, like one of the other episodes I gave you Pang,
but not the name. The word.
Today I'm going to give you the word.

(02:19:13):
Well, name Batman, not Batman. In this show.
I'm going to give you D CS Batman.
Figure it out. It's on you.
What you got to use Batman in here?
Like, I don't know. Use Batman.
In a review or comment, let's see what you guys got.
I got nothing else. I cannot.

(02:19:34):
Wait to see what you guys do with that.
And. I think after this episode we
have somewhere, somehow. Coming.
Out, yes, OK, so next. Week after this episode, we will
be taking a short break. From Pluto you will be getting
somewhere somehow, volume to thebook club and then after that

(02:19:55):
episode comes out the following week we'll be back for episode 5
of Pluto, so. Stay tuned for all that
goodness. And hey, that happens to
coincide with when somewhere, somehow the series is coming
out, which is real soon. All right, well, thank you
everybody. Hope you enjoyed this.
And until next time, hydrate forlesbian Jesus and get it up all

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