Us the Series Part 2: Pam and Dokrak are Green Flags

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about one of our favorite shows ever, us the series.
And this will be a continuation of our overview of why we love
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So we'll be concluding the the series here.
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so we can continue talking aboutthis show.
Yes, and this is this. As we said in Part 1, this is an
overview. However, this overview is just a
little longer than normal because there's so much to talk
about. There's so much, there's so
much. And honestly, yeah, ode to this
well done television series. So let's just get into it, shall

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we? Let's do.
It all right, let's start with one of my favorite things about
the show, which is the original songs in this show, particularly
Emmy song. So like, OK, let's just back up.
They did a whole bunch of them for the show.
So if you haven't like seen their music video like OST's
like they're on YouTube and stuff, go watch them listen to

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them. They're honestly all really,
really good. They did a really freaking
amazing job, which I love. But the thing I love most about
the OST's in the show is how they chose to use them in the
show because it was really brilliant and really powerful
the way they used them. And I'm going to specifically

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get into how they used more thanwords, which is the the T doc
song that Emmy sings, because they weave this particular song
into the show at really pivotal moments.
And to me, I've come to the conclusion that it reads as like
hams. I'm in love with Doc Rack music.
Like anytime she's having that afeeling, a big feeling towards

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Doc Rack in that way or coming to that realization, like you
will hear the song. So let me just walk you through
a few examples of like how this escalates and how they choose to
weave it into the show. So one big example early on is
in episode 2 when Duck Rock is performing at Oates bar in front
of the coworkers and Pam. How we get there is really cute,

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where like all the coworkers go and they're just like her
biggest fans, which is fucking adorable and so cute.
The supportiveness, they're adorable.
But we're going to focus on Pam because what happens with Pam in
the scene is really important. So the sequence starts with Dog
racks up on doing her thing and singing the some acoustic song.
And it's not more than words. She's singing something else and

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it's a love song. And at some point it cuts to Pam
who's watching her and listeningto the lyrics.
And Pam starts having a reactionwhen Duck Rack starts singing
this love ballad and we you start hearing the melody from
more than words play kind of in the background while you hear

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Duck Rack. And that's what tipped me off.
I'm like, I keep hearing the beginning because I've listened
to the song a million times by now because it's so good.
And I'm like, that's the beginning of the song.
And it crescendos. So that first note that like
it's louder and louder and louder when Duck Rack starts
singing the lyrics. You probably don't know how I
feel that I'm in love with you head over heels and it's focused
on Pam and you. That melody starts crescendoing,

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and then that's when Pam, like, does the thing where she touches
her chest because her heart starts racing as the
crescendoing is happening. And in this moment, she's coming
to the realization that she actually has genuine feelings
from Duck Rack. Duck Rack's not just the
mission. She's like actually falling in
love with her. And that's when when she's
having that realization, that's when more than words, the actual

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song drowns out Duck Rack's performance.
And it's, I think it's really brilliant the way they did this
because by the editors choosing to do that, you're getting
sucked into Pam's realization, right?
Because think about it for Pam'spoint of view.
She's having these big feelings while Doc Rex on stage
essentially serenading, well, the audience.

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But if to Pam, it feels like DocRex is singing directly to her
about love. And so we get the sense of like
what it feels for Pam in this moment because like in this
moment with more than words, drowning at everything.
And we're just focused on Pam. We are Pam in this moment where
like we're just everything else is drowned out except this
feeling that she's having that'sreally, really big.

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And this is the first big example of like how they use the
song to really like weave into the story.
And it's so brilliant and powerful.
And I just, I love it and it keeps going.
But like, this is the first example that I found that was
big. That's a really good catch with
the. Drowning it out and I love that
you caught that. It's important to also say that

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there's a butterfly on her shirt, so just in case you don't
know how she's feeling, the butterfly that she touches on
her chest. Oh, that's cute.
You. Pointed it out the first time we
saw. I don't remember, but that's
really. Cute.
Yeah. So I do agree that this is this
is when she was like, shit, I'm in deep.

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Yeah. And then so then as the show
continues, this OST keeps playing when Pam specifically is
having big feelings for Duck Rack.
So again, to me, this feels likethis is a manifestation of Pam's
feelings for Duck Rack. And so which makes sense because
in the OST only Emmy is singing it.
So it's like it's Pam's feelingslike about Duck Rack.

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And it's a plan her name, which is my.
Which is maybe more meaningful too, because it is.
It's her song. Yeah, her song.
And they, I mean, again, they probably planned that from the
very beginning. Like it is interesting that
she's the only one singing like the the song that they chose to
open the show with. Yeah, and there's another like

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there's another example that I'll point out really quickly is
when Pam is in front of the store shop with Doc Rack and
Doctor is like playing with the rain because she's trying to
send her away. And Pam.
I have that scene down. And Pam's like Pam says I love
you, but it's a dream sequence. You hear the OST start
escalating when she before she says it.
That's what I mean when I say like they put in this song

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specifically when Pam's having areally big feeling towards Duck
Rack. But the pinnacle of the use of
this glorious OST and its incorporation to the show is
when Pam literally sings the song to Duck Rack.
And that ties into my other favorite thing of the show,
which is the play on Duck Rack'sname, which is the fun with the

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T Doc pun, which again, this actually came from chaos in the
very first like chapter, there'sa play on duck racks name when
she's talking to Pam. So like it actually comes from
Chow. So it's like a homage to Chow,
but like Oh my God. And like an elevation of that is
like her singing the song to her.
So if you haven't caught on by now, like rock means love in hi.

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So I didn't know this when I read the novel because in the
novel they just call her love like just in English.
So I had no idea this was a playon her full name.
I was just like, oh, that's her nickname.
Like milk love. Like I didn't know like, but
it's more apparent here. That's what they're doing.
And the first scene where they like flat out explicitly have

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the pun, which is it comes. This comes from the novel is in
episode 3. And So what I've noticed from
like Thai speakers is that there's a lot of ways to say you
like, there's so many. I don't even know them.
I don't, I cannot claim to know the ball.
But one one thing I've noticed is there's this like reference

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to yourself in third person whenyou're intimately speaking to
somebody you know pretty well. So in episode 3, when they're on
the bus ride and Doc rack literally gets pushed into Pam
because it's a crowded bus, likerush hour or whatever the fuck.
And then she tries to say like, Oh, I, I fell on to you, Pam.
Like she apologizes and she's like, why are you apologizing?

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It's a crowded fucking bus. And doctor, I said, well, I fell
on to you. Like I'm sorry, but the way
she's talking to Pam is really intimate.
So she says her name like Rock fell on to you.
And then Pam is like, you fell in love with me like because
she's saying her name. And so and then Dr. Rock is
like, oh shit, no, that's not what I said.
I mean, yes, but that's not whatI said.
So it's a really cute like getting flustered, like

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miscommunication pun with the way they speak their language,
which I fucking love. And it was Chad was being evil
when she named this character. And she's like, I'm going to
fuck with you so hard. I was too focused on the
actually falling into her that first of all, I was adorable.
I love that part and so this. Happened to have an accidental.

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This is such a plausible fallingon top of somebody, correct?
I agree it's natural and a natural scenario.
The naturalness, it's such a natural relationship.
No, I, I that's really, that's really cute.
So that's why all that happened.Yeah, that's why Pam's like
you're falling in love. This is the way Doc Rack said

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it. She's like, no, I'm sorry I fell
on to you. Whoops.
But also a shout out to Pam, who's reflexively like, holds on
to her the rest of the ride because she's like, first of
all, you're a disaster child. I've watched you try to eat
noodles and you almost killed yourself like 10 times.
So like, you can't be trusted ona crowded bus.
Anyway, very protective Pam. You gotta protect the puppy.

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You do at one point later rock like why do you treat me?
I'm not a kid. And then Pam's like I'm always
going to see you that way cuz when we first met you would do
things where I'm like are you OK?
Like you're going to hurt yourself anyway, so.
I mean, OK, so to be fair, Dog Rock is fully capable of taking
care of herself. She's killing it on her own

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overture. I think with Pam around, it's
kind of the first time she doesn't have to worry about
herself so cuz she does have someone else who cares enough to
like really take care of her. So I think she just not that
she's letting it have him, but subconsciously she doesn't think
as much about what's going on. So that's why she's more of a

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disaster. I, I think subconsciously she
wants Pam to take care of her, hence like the dentist
interaction. She's like, I like when you tell
me what to do. I think on some level she kind
of like likes when Pam, you know, that's.
Because she, again, she doesn't.She didn't have that type of
love in her life too. Yeah, for sure.
Also like I think the gay fries her brain sometimes and Pam's
like what are you? Have you ever eaten noodles

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before? Like what are you doing?
So anyway, it's. A disaster, too.
She's kind of a disaster. She's adorable.
I love her to death. OK, so that's like the first big
explicit instance of like the pun game with Duck Rack's
nickname. But what I so not only is that
cute, but what I love again, just like the song, the way they
choose to like escalate the namethat Pam calls Duck Rack is just

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utter perfection in like beat with their intimacy.
So they basically slowly start changing what Pam verbally
refers to refers Doc rack to over time.
And it's so sweet and clever andI will literally never be over
it because the execution of thisthe concept is cute number one,
but the execution was perfect with how they did this.
So basically the way it goes is it starts with Pam just calling

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her duck rack, like her name, and then eventually it gets
shortened into the more intimaterock, right, which translates
into love, then eventually escalates into Tedoc, which is
one of the most intimate things you can call your partner.
So like not not only is it just like another fun play on her
name, but it's like their relationship gets really
intimate. And so Pam explicitly calls her

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that to like show her that like her feelings towards her, which
is so. Which means my love in English.
Yeah, or like my darling, it, ittranslates into this really
intimate term. So yeah, T it seems like my
love, that's one way to translate.
I've seen it translated so. I was the English translation of
the song that I saw, that's why.I saw that.

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But like, if you go back to like, blank, they say it blank.
Yeah, it's my like, there's a ways to translate it, but it's
basically like a super intimate thing to call your partner,
like, bottom line, regardless ofhow you kind of translate it.
But if you're playing with the rock means love and love is her
nickname, then yeah, like my love.
Like it's one way to translate it.

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OK, so Pam first says OK, but but again, we don't just get to
the Pam saying it explicitly, like not explicitly, but saying
it directly to Doc Rack to be like, this is what I'm saying.
She plays the pun game with her,which is really cute.
So we get to Episode 7. OK.
And this is when Pam first says Tdoc to her.
So I don't fully understand the actual like translation of this,

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but I noticed it when I was watching it.
So this is when Doc Rack shows up to get desserts from grandma
Abua and like Pam walks out to go to dentist school and like
there's her future wife hanging out with her grandmother and Pam
offers to carry these desserts to the cafe 'cause that's what
that's Doc Rock's excuse for being there.

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And then Pam says, well, I'll carry it for you.
And then it translates to since you're my.
And then it like pauses and if you listen, she says T Doc and
then like duck rack freezes. They're first of all, they're in
front of the grandmother. And the second of all, she's
like, what did you just call me?And then after the gay panic
happens, like because Pam is playing with her, she clarifies.

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She says, you're my customer. So I don't actually know exactly
what the the translation, what like the actual Thai phrase was,
but she does say it and it freaks out Duck Rack.
And then she's like, you're my customer and shamelessly froning
in front of your grandmother. Good job, Pam, because she knows
that grandma's all into this expressions.
Pam's like customer, dunker's like, oh God, it's just

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happened. Meanwhile, Grandma's like, come
on. She's not listening.
Like it wasn't weird to grandmother because I think that
like Pam, whatever Pam was saying like was like legitimate,
but like she was emphasizing it to get Duck Rack to freak out,
which worked and it was very cute.

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So they're just so. Cute.
So that was cute to as a way of flirting.
She's like, I'll play with your name and be like, no, it's fine.
I'm not, I wasn't saying that. But then in the same episode, it
doesn't last long 'cause in the same episode, this is the
thirsty Pam episode. We then get to the end of that
episode and we get to the impromptu proposal scene, which,

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Oh my God, this was like, this. Was it the best use of the OST?
First of all, So we get the apromptive Parozal scene.
Then later, like Doc Rock's like, OK, can you help me
practice this song for my performance at Oates Bar?
She's like, I need to learn the guitar part.
I already know the lyrics. Can you be my singer?

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And they go through the motions of like, singing this, doing the
song together. And Pam admits at the beginning
she's like, oh, I've heard the song before.
I know the lyrics and then they go through the motions, and then
once we get to the TDOC part, Pam stops Doc Rack from playing

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before that line can be spoken. And like everything stops, the
whole room goes quiet. And then because Pam is
essentially getting Doc Rack's undivided attention before she
says this, which was what a power move this is.
Oh, would love this type of flirting.
This is like Olympic gold medal flirting is the scene.

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So with Doc Rock's undivided attention, Pam continues the
song and really emphasizes the TDoc line.
And you can watch Doc Rock like visibly melting because Pam is
pet naming her in this super intimate romantic way while like
singing of a song. And what's really worth noticing

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is that but while the scene's playing out like if you were the
two of them, this is just Pam singing.
There's no because she stopped the guitar.
But we hear like a melody playing and the music in the
background, it's not the OST that goes with the lyrics.
It's this gentle, generic music that they decide to play in the

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background. So it really lets Emmy's voice
in the scene stand out because if you're Duck Rack in the
scene, all you hear is her voice.
There is no music. So I love that cause again, it
sucks you into the moment as Duck Rack who's melting.
Hence this like this like warm music that's really subtle, but
like the focus is Pam's singing.So again, clever way to use the

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music and the singing and. That's a great thing.
Yeah, it's really brilliant. And then at the very end, like
Pam ends it as it to emphasize her point, as if she didn't make
it. She just very blatantly calls
Doc Wreck Tdoc as the very last thing that she says.

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And she's like, if you didn't understand what I was doing, I
was basically calling you the most intimate thing I possibly
could. And after this, Doc Wreck was
legally obligated to make out with Pam, which she does, and
when she does, then the music transitions fully into the OST
with the full melody and the lyrics.
So the way that they broke that up, wove it in, made it this

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super intimate and relevant moment to their story was just
mind bogglingly brilliant. I'll never be over how they use
the song. It to me, it makes that song way
more special because there's this connection to the show and
how they used it in this pivotalmoment that makes it so special
and beautiful. And if I could give an Olympic

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gold medal for just being amazing to everybody that
decided to do this and worked onit and Emmy, I would.
But I don't have that power. But if I did.
Well, an honorary big Gay gold medal to you.
For this, everybody who worked on this.
But I do. Yeah.
That's that's great that you pointed out that she stopped her

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from playing to get her attention.
Because. I mean, yeah, it's her.
Because if if you listen though,what happened in the scene was
that Duck Rack was about to start.
Duck Rack starts because Pam stops, because Pam knows the
lyrics. She's like, oh, I can make my
move. And Duck Rack waits a minute and

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then continues the lyrics. So she stops her so that Duck
Rack doesn't say it. And then Pam picks it up and is
like, This is why I stopped. Like so I could call you this.
So it's just, it's just like theway they executed this, even the
actors like damn, like it was it's powerful.
This scene, it's so powerful andbeautiful.

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Speaking of the actors though, can we just talk about those
micro expressions and the my? Body's facial expressions, good
Lord. That fully tells so many things
without saying anything. It's.
It's so good. They're so and all of them are
so good. My boss has got some good ones.
I don't know who said it, I apologize Patreon, but someone

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in her Patreon comments mentioned that Bonnie is like
really new to acting. I don't know if she's been in
other projects or what she's done, but I would never have
guessed. I would have thought that these
two were huge, were a huge couple in the Thai girl love
scene or just in Thailand in general because they killed it.

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Oh my God. Killed it.
They killed it. Oh my God, Bonnie.
Great job. I mean, they both did.
They did a great job in general.But yeah, Bonnie, Bonnie knows
how to use her. Eyes.
Oh my God, yeah, her her eyes say volumes.
Basically her micro expressions are always on point.

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Like she's a good reaction actor.
Like she does the reactions extremely.
Well, is first of all very helpful to the editors, because
that means that they know that they can rely on to cut to you
if they need to cut to something.
Literally, yeah, she's always having her.
Job so much easier but yeah thatis that is acting that's acting

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because the reacting is such an important part you don't see her
in her head thinking like oh I have to say this next note you
see her living as duck rock and that's what makes this show 100
times better because because I fully believe like if I met her
in person I'd be like you're a dog cracker right No remember

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these are people though, no matter how good of an actor they
are they are people with their own lives and personalities
correct. But as an actor, she embodies
this character and has done sucha great job.
Yeah. I love her.
And on the other side of that, cause again, this is kind of

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like a loyal pen situation whereyou have Duck Rex like the Inan
character in a way. Like that's the expressive, more
extroverted character. So you're going to see her see
the reactions a lot more obviously in that character
versus like the pin Pam character who's more in her head
and less expressive because that's part of the character,

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right? Like Pam is like quote, the ice
queen in the beginning, we have to thaw the ice.
So you're not going to see stuffas obviously with that
character, but Emmy does a fucking amazing job of like
still giving you a sense of whatshe's thinking with the subtlety
of the way she does the character.
When the character is reacting to something and not verbally
saying something out loud, like she like dips her head or like

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she, she's less with the eye contact, but more with like
these subtle facial expressions to show you like what this
introverted character is doing. And so she also they they
balance each other out really nicely with their micro
expressions is what I'm getting at.
And the the micro movements in the.
Body. Oh my God.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's another way to
convey emotion. So the characters who may not

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express it on their face, if younotice the body language and
like the way they move and like point themselves towards other
people in the scene or it, it says a lot.
And you do see Emmy use that a lot throughout the show too, to
convey what she can't verbally say.

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Exactly. And on that train, the
characters who also do that extremely well is 1 Kawi, the
actor that played Kawi, because a lot of his character was like
he wasn't sharing what was actually going on with Kawi.
So he had to do a ton of just like body language, facial
expressions to be like he is notOK.

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He is not OK. And like he would have to do
that consistently throughout theshow and did an amazing job.
And the other character who did that a lot because we didn't
know what was going on with themis Mom Duck Rex Mom, that actor
give her an award. Holy shit, did she act her ass
off in this show? Like, damn, because that's

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another character will like you don't know what's going on, but
you can see the turmoil. You can see like the shame.
You can see all the things just on her face by the way she was
acting like Oh my God she did anamazing job.
Like damn. Seriously, first of all,
everybody made you feel exactly how you're supposed to feel in
every single moment because there are times where you're

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supposed to be like, oh, I don'tknow if I like her because she's
doing this stuff. But then the way she acts, she
she makes you realize all this stuff going on.
You can see what's going on in her head once we get more into
her story towards the end. And it's just that understanding
of when you go back and watch what she's actually doing in

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that scene, that's and how you see how she actually feels
rather than what she's saying. So that separation of what she's
saying from her expressions is just again, yeah, great job,
actor. Now a great job and great job.
To the guy that played Keem, thedad you made us hate you like

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that was your job. As the actor, you did your job.
It was your job. You did your job.
You did well, you acted the hellout.
Of you and grandpa. He made me love you.
Give her. An Oh my God.
God damn. Grandma Bua.
What an acting job. Love you.
Yeah, she was good. The acting, but let's let's get

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into dog rocks, mom. More because.
What a layered. Character, first of all, I'm
just so glad they gave her a full journey because oftentimes
where I have issues with shows when the main focus is a younger
character is that the adults areone-dimensional and it's
basically like Mom is evil. That's it.

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That's the whole story. Mom is this cartoon kind of a
character. But no, Duckbreck's mom had a
full had a full character arc and growth and like all this
stuff. And I didn't expect that going
into this because in the novel, like the the parents are
background. They're they're mentioned,
they're kind of there at some points, but they're not people
here. They're like, hold my beer.

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You're going to love this mom. Like the way they gave her a
full character. I wasn't expecting that, that
that's subverting my expectation.
I didn't think Mom was going to have a full character arc but
like. No, it's not normal for what
we've seen from the shows that we have watched.
From the Thai girl love series we've seen so far say that.
Yeah, if the dad is problematic or one of the parents is
problematic, the other ones usually just going with the

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motions and slope. We don't.
Yeah, I'm dead, but we don't really see any results from them
because they're not. The dish goes completely
changing. No, they're not.
That but. With this show.
Again, GMMTV, their strength is making ensemble shows where the

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other characters have growth. It's not just your point of view
characters or the ship. You're rooting for those two.
It's everybody. That is one of their strengths
as a production company. They do actual ensembles where
the characters are three-dimensional.
All of them and even the dead. You could, you could argue that
he's like, yeah, he doesn't grow, but he is a

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three-dimensional character. Like he's not one-dimensional
where it's like he, you know, hewas 3 dimensional as well.
It's just like he was frustratedbecause he chose not to change
at every crossroad he was at. But and you saw his connection
with the hospital, like he caredabout this hospital and having
it succeed. And that's literally why we're

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here, right? Now, I mean, and the other thing
is like, OK, remember we keep getting the flashback at the
lake when he was with young DuckRack and young Cowie and he was
happy and smiling and playing with them.
So like, that's the image of their dad they're clinging to is
the guy that like took them to the lake every weekend for
family time. So like, you know, like, and
then he made a choice to be like, no, I'm going to do evil

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things for the business. And that was it.
He just became that person. So like, that's the guy they
were clinging on to. Like that memory, you know,
that's why they kept showing us that.
In that scene, it's really easy to focus on because we get that
scene because of Mob Boss. Yeah.
So you're focusing more on mob Boss because it's her watching
them. So it is hard.
It's easy to forget that, oh, they're having fun there.

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And that's why mob boss is sad. I mean, there's still that
implication. Well, you don't know it at the
time, but there's that implication of that he didn't
accept her. So technically that was a choice
he made too. But yeah, in that scene alone,
you're seeing a three-dimensional character
because he is being a dad and having fun with his kid.
But there's also this decision that's right here on the edge

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looking in, and it's kind of like foreshadowing to the
future, like he will continue tomake decisions that will start
putting people on the outside. Yeah, no, that's a really good
read. And that's the other thing I
really love about GM MTV is theyplay with point of view really
well because they because they create an ensemble, you, you as

(28:45):
the viewer get these point of views and you don't even realize
you're seeing the scene through somebody else's lens.
So like it's constructed to feela certain way because you're
seeing it through their point ofview.
But if you like for this scene, for example, if you take away
the bias that is mob boss's point of view and like look at
the scene for what it is, you'relike, Oh, this is actually also
happening. But like her vengeance is
fueling your point of view when you're going into the scene

(29:08):
because you're like, oh, no wonder she's so mad.
But like, look at Doc Wrack and Cowie for a minute and be like,
that was a happy moment they hadwith their dad and then go to
the future and they're like, fuck this guy, you know what I
mean? Like what happened like that
must have been heartbreaking forthem.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
Too GTV loves doing that shit and I I love it.
The most explicit thing is Plutowhen they do like the I point of

(29:28):
view and the may point of view for like the one scene and they
had Nam Tam do it twice depending on the point of view.
Like they love doing that stuff and they're so good at.
But this and this was like a subtle like just depending on
whose point of view it is, your view of the scene is going to be
different because they want you to feel what the point of view
character is feeling. I definitely have not really an
issue, just like I'd never really see the point of view

(29:51):
until you pointed out. And I'm really glad you pointed
out to me whenever it happens because it definitely helps me
realize, Oh yes, always keep thepoint of view in mind because it
really does affect what you're seeing and even in real life
that's what's happening. We only have our point of view.
So being able to see the show and have the other points of
view really makes you think like, OK, there there's other

(30:14):
things going on in somebody else's head.
So what's their connection? What are they reading out of
this? And I love, I love ensemble
shows. I I think they, they're the
best. It just gives you more like to
your point, it just enriches what you're watching because
again, it's that there's the surface of a read of what you're

(30:36):
just seeing and reacting to for the very first time, your
reaction to it. But then when you take a step
back and you're like, for me, I would say it's media literacy
and all this stuff. But really, I'm a suspicious
person. I'm like, what are you trying
to, what are you trying to like trick me?
Why are you, What are you tryingto really show me with this?
And it comes from living in a time when, like, misinformation
is everywhere, when you have to look at something and be like,

(30:57):
OK, but like, who wrote this andwhy?
And like, what are you trying toget at?
Because even facts can be skewed.
Like statistics is the famous thing.
Like. It's like, what are you trying
to sell me right now? Yeah, exactly.
What are you trying to sell me? Like statistics are like that
too. Like there's many ways to show
the same statistics. And like you could give a point
of view to be like, I want you to look at this favorably.

(31:19):
So I'm going to like skew the graph, like skew the, you know,
the X axis, Y axis, so it looks better, that kind of stuff.
So when I'm looking at something, I'm always like, OK,
but like, who's telling me the story?
Because depending on what character is telling me the
story, like their point of view is going to cloud what I'm
seeing because I'm seeing it through their eyes.
So I'm just a suspicious person.I'm like, what are you?

(31:40):
What is the writer trying to tell me what this is like
really? Because there's more to it than
like what I'm seeing. I am suspicious.
So there's that. So anyway, so let's get back
into Duck Rack's mom. So episode 4.
So that's when Duck Rack finallytells Pam her why she ran away
from home, right? She's like, oh, I caught my
father cheating. And then when Doc Reck found

(32:04):
this out, she can she. There's this hopeful last scene
where Doc Reck confronts her ownmother and begs her to get a
divorce. But like, what?
What happens to mom? Because mom in the beginning
again is probably clinging to the man she married.
OK, The man she married and the man she has right now.
Probably not the same dude. OK, It should happen.

(32:24):
He's awful now. And I think she's still in
denial land. But mom in the beginning is set
up as quote, the traditional wife, right?
Because what's her excuse or rather rationale to Doc Rack in
this scene in the flashback, she's like, well, Doc Rack I
it's not that simple because I have to, I have to think about
the fallout of our entire family.

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It's not just me and my happiness, right?
That's the traditional wife. The the female character is the
sacrificing one, right? She's like, it's not about me.
It's about everybody else, right?
She's like, what's your grandmother going to say?
If I don't, you know, I'm a bad wife, right?
Whatever, or I'll be ostracized.And then she says, how is this
going to affect your uncles? Like my brothers that borrowed
money from your dad for their businesses?

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Because Keem is always holding money over everybody's head.
He'll be like, well, I'll take that money back.
I'll sue them. She's like, I'm going to, I
could ruin my entire family, their social reputation, hence
grandma. And then financially with her
brothers because she's like, we're entwined now because we're
a family. That's what families do.
Like getting married at its coreis a business transaction.

(33:28):
Like really that's what it is. That's what it was always
designed to be. And then people assign meaning
to it. As we move into people who don't
have assets, they marry for loveand all.
It's, you know, it has changed. It's religious to some people,
but at its core, it's a way to solidify contracts.
It's like blood contracts. They're like, we will make a
child that will solidify the businesses and all the money

(33:50):
going to those one kid, all the land.
That's what like wealthy people would do.
They're like, we have this child.
That's the blood murder. That's how money gets
transferred. That's really what it is.
And so mom is like, I'm now in this position where like money
is already entangled. And so if I step back, they
could get hurt. And and then the heartbreaking

(34:11):
part was when mom's like, I already know what your dad's
doing. There's like a don't ask, don't
tell policy in this house. She's like, I already know what
he's doing, but I'm trapped in this marriage now.
Other people are involved. Like, as long as he keeps it
from me, I can go on pretending this is normal because like,
unfortunately for women historically in patriarchies,
this is normal. That she wouldn't, if this was

(34:32):
like 200 years ago, she wouldn'thave any right to say anything.
Like, it just it is what it is. Like, she wouldn't be able to do
anything about this. But now we are not in that time,
right? And that's what Doc Rack is
saying. She's like, hey, ma, this is not
the 19th century anymore. You can do something about this.
And Mom's like, well, I bet all these other people, dear, all
these other people, I just, it'sreally shitty for like the mom

(34:53):
to have to be living as a hostage essentially in this.
Yeah. And she's like, I also have you
kids, you know, like she's. Trapped, she's in a place where
she can't think about her own interests.
Yeah, marriage is designed to trap women because women were
property. So yeah, mom is like, I'm sorry,

(35:15):
honey, but like, I, I'm feel very, she feels trapped, right?
But then, you know, we kind of go on this journey with mom
where she I like Nini is like basically the camel straw that
broke the camel's back kind of thing.
Or she's like, OK, there's a huge ass file of evidence that I

(35:36):
now cannot ignore. Like she comes in with this
novel. She's like, there you go.
And I'm like, good Lord, this man is awful.
And mom's like, OK, but like, you can clearly see that like
mom boss was not the thing that really like blew up the family.
The family was already in shatters.
It was just like, this was like kind of the last one of one of
the last straws. I think Kylie's health was

(35:57):
another one Doc wreck being like, fuck off.
I think eventually the mom was like, it got to a point where
she's like, something needs to change.
And you can see that in scenes with Kylie that like, mom was
like, I feel responsible for allthis falling apart.
And like, he had to be like, daddid this, not you.
Like, everybody feels like they're the failure.
And you're like, we're all victims of this one guy.

(36:22):
That is very true, Mom, says. A comment.
Being like about the deal where like, as long as I don't see it,
I don't care. Yeah.
Don't ask, don't tell. But The thing is, with Mob boss
coming in constantly, like the evidence aside, Mob Boss is
literally showing up. Dog Rex Well, mom can't ignore

(36:47):
it anymore because this evidenceliterally keeps showing up,
which is why the dad is more pissed off that she's around
because I'm sure that he knows that she's able, the mom's able
to ignore it because she doesn'tsee anything happening.
But then once she sees first of all the way that this has
affected mob boss too because she sees mob boss's need for a

(37:09):
mom. Like she learns about her
throughout this whole time too and tries to be there for her.
But my boss isn't a place to lether be there for her in the
beginning. We've talked about that already
in Part 1 and but the when the mom saw how much it was
affecting all the people around her with like her children, like

(37:32):
really understanding like, oh, this is affecting me and starts
to like let herself realize the negative effects of this
marriage. It's kind of like, well, do I
protect my whole family or my children and myself?
Like now the the pros and cons are kind of like balanced in a

(37:56):
way. So let me be selfish for a
second. Let me make things better for
the people that I'm with right now instead of putting us all in
a position where everybody's miserable.
We're also in a time where things are more accepted.
I think one of the really validating moments was when

(38:18):
she's at Grandma Bua shop with Kaoui and she sees what Dark Rex
life is like without them because there's a moment with,
first of all, I love that they made her a psychiatrist.
So you talked about like, OK, a lot of Tiger roll off shows
don't get into therapy. And it's like, OK, it's a
therapy being like mental healthtreatment is becoming more

(38:41):
accepted like just in general around the world versus being a
stigma and like something's wrong with you kind of thing.
And like we don't talk about that kind of thing.
Like grandma's crazy. We don't talk about that
Spamming more like normalized, Iguess is a better way to put it.
And so I love that they made hera psychiatrist first of all,
because for a couple of reasons.One, because then she has the

(39:02):
conversation with Nini who needshelp.
And like the psychiatrist in hersees that like immediately like
can see that there's more going on than this like surface level
stuff that she's saying because she's trained to see those
things as a psychiatrist. So to your point, she sees all
the stuff going on with mob bossand she sees that this person is
like she asked her at one point when mob boss comes to the house

(39:25):
and then and she's like, aren't you tired?
Like aren't you tired of like being alone?
Because I think in those moments, like I think part of
the a part of her, the mom sees Doc Rack in mob boss because mom
boss is on her own dealing with all this bullshit and she's has
no support. So in mom's brain, dog Rack is

(39:45):
on her own with no family support.
Is my daughter suffering the waythis girl is suffering because
of the dad, what he did, right? So later when we jump to the
grandma Boo is making them a meal and mom just starts crying
because she sees how loved her daughter is.
Like they're in they're all all four of them are in the kitchen

(40:06):
laughing. First of all, I love the scene
because Dark Wright's like, mom,I'm going to make rice.
I'm real good at making rice. Then she goes in the backroom
and they start nagging and they're like, can you cook it
properly this time? Like they start banter like
making her the butt of the jug. And they're like, last time it
was too watery and all like loudly saying this in this
house. And so mom is watching this
exchange and it's just like so tears of joy because she's like,

(40:27):
wow, my daughter is so loved. That's what.
She's like this house feels so warm, even though it's small.
So she was worried that like without the big house and the
money that like that she was providing by being with the dad
that like Doc Rock would be struggling.
But she's like, she's not. Look at how loved she is.
She's like there's more love in this kitchen than we've ever had
as a family in this big hat wealthy house that shows we've

(40:48):
made it right. So it's kind of one of those
things for the mom where being apsychiatrist I feel like is a
really I liked as a character trait for her because you get to
see different things because of the way her brain works.
And so I love that she. Shows that yeah, even though
she's aware of the things like how other people it would affect

(41:10):
other people, doesn't mean that you can always recognize it for
yourself either. Oh, absolutely.
And so that I love that she, again, she's going on this
journey to be like, she has to come to the realization that
like or not has to, but she's coming to the realization that
like keeping the family physically together is not the
best thing for the family. Like the, like the dad Keem has

(41:32):
chosen to like not be a part of the family and like being able
to let go of that is so difficult because for so many
reasons. Like she, you know, like she
said when Duck Rack first confronted her about it.
But she's like, look like we arethe like at this point, me,
Kylie and my daughter, we're thefamily.
And what's best for us is for us3 to be together in a smaller,

(41:53):
happier environment. And so like, it's hard to come
to that realization, but she's doing it.
And I love that she gets there and then does integrate herself
into her daughter's life. Like when Pam's grandmother
died, her and Chloe come to the funeral as family members would.
So they very much like like she just and she adopts mob boss.
She's like, I'm not mad at you for being the, you know, love

(42:15):
child of my cheating husband. You didn't ask for any of this.
Like she just sees another daughter that needs like another
human being that needs help and chooses to like be like, you're
my sibling, you know, you're my children's sibling, like and
you're neglected and she takes her in and then Ma bust does the
same thing back. Like I just love that she got
this full arc of just like it's not even a redemption arc.

(42:39):
It's just she came to the realization of like, I have to
let go of this marriage because it's and and and be happy
afterwards because that was her journey on the on the theme of
the show, basically. And I love that they gave the
mom that. It was really good.
I love the way they did it. It was very subtle, but it's
fucking amazing. Back to the theme of the found
family, in that moment where Dokrak is cooking with everybody

(43:03):
else, she's seeing that found family because again, with her
saying like, there's more love here, she's be able to witness
like, OK, this this is a family right now.
Yeah, but they're not related because to Tang.
Tang Yeah. Yeah, Tatang is also there, not
related to anyone, but she is part of that family.

(43:27):
Oh yeah, more than any like whatrelative in Dombarak's family
is, she's there for them, she even moves with them.
And by her seeing that, I think that even helps her to accept
mob boss even more even though she was already willing like to
be there for her. I think that really showed her

(43:49):
that she could like that she is family no matter what.
And that was just their her character learning about the
found family part. Yeah, I, to your point, found
family is another humongous theme.
Like Oat has this whole conversation like she's like the
guru. Like she shows up, flirts with

(44:10):
women and then is like, let me just give you some life advice.
Like just casually, you know what I mean?
And she does talk. She has some conversation with,
I forget who it was. It was just Cowie or mob boss, I
can't remember. But she basically says
explicitly that she's like, well, you know, family doesn't
necessarily mean blood. It can mean lots of things.
Like it's whoever you're comfortable.
I think it's my boss. She's like whoever you're
comfortable with. Like it's people that are there.

(44:32):
And so they do reinforce that onmultiple fronts with it's like
in a show don't ask, show, don'ttell kind of way.
And that scene to your point is a show don't tell where like,
you see, that's a family. Like that's why Mom's like it
feels warm in here. Like tit Dang says the same
thing. She's like, I showed up here one
day, I don't know why, and just stuck around because it felt
warm being around Grandma Boo. And I was like, I needed that

(44:52):
because she was another like herparents died when she was young
and she like went through it andwas like, I found you guys and
now I'm Pam's big sister and like that kind of stuff.
And Pam sees her that way. And she's like, Pam's like,
yeah, no, you're like my big sister.
Like that's just the way it is. So I love that they reinforce
that on multiple, multiple fronts.
It's really, really great. Also props to the mom for being

(45:16):
willing to go through with the divorce because she she battles
that decision for a little. While yes and also that.
That conversation with Kawi, howhe does not talk her out of it
and is fully backing. Her up, so sweet.
Is a huge moment. Yes, for both of those
characters. Yes, we're going to jump to him
next, but I also I have to say one of my favorite mom scenes is

(45:39):
again that scene with in the grandma Bua shop.
That was the cutest. I love when she starts teasing
Pam openly and like again, just being like, first of all, she
just accepted her daughter as dating.
First of all, doctor, when she had to tell her mom she's like,
I'm really scared. I'm sorry, mom.
I was like, I don't care and like hugs her.
And then he's like, I'm sorry, Idon't hug you enough.
I don't care. Let's go to lunch and bring Pam

(45:59):
so I can meet her. And then they go to this thing
and she's like, my daughter's sohappy.
Why is my daughter so happy? Pam?
Like Pam's like, ah, normal reasons, like doctor's like stop
teasing her. So it's really cute that like
again, mom just like fell into the pattern of being like a
supportive like mom teasing the girlfriend.
Like it was really it was reallycute that moment with the mom.
She's like teasing Pam because usually Duck Rack's the one

(46:22):
getting teased. So it was really cute that she
was. Like, yeah, teasing.
The girlfriend. But do you know when they're
teasing someone and being teased?
Like that's when they're really connected.
Yeah, that's such a family thing.
That's like my family's lovely. Yeah, it's it was sweet.
It was cute. I just.
Want to talk a quick minute about divorces?
Because we know like in Thailand, it's not as accepted

(46:43):
and like the culture. So I just did a little bit of
research on and I have a few bullet points just about divorce
in general in case people are interested.
So divorce was legalized in Thailand in 1924 under the Civil
and Commercial Code, but it was only granted for specific
grounds like adultery, desertion, imprisonment over

(47:08):
three years, or physical mental incapacity preventing
cohabitation. Sorry, So you know, they, they
would fit under this. And then in 1976, the law was
amended to allow divorce by mutual consent, though it was
uncommon. And then in 2022, which once I

(47:30):
saw 2022, I'm like, are you kidding me?
Like laws are still being like changed for divorce right now.
That's a big thing because like,there's so much going on that's
still not allowed or accepted today, and we don't think about
that. Like, there's still things that
people aren't allowed to do. So a new law was passed allowing

(47:53):
divorce without specific grounds.
So they didn't have to have like, adultery or anything.
It could just be a decision if both parties agreed.
In America, it's called no faultdivorce.
And I'll bring I'll say that because in America, there are
some states right now 2025 who are trying to pass laws to make
no fault divorce illegal. Because do you know who in

(48:15):
America initiates like 70% of divorces?
Women, Women. So it's a way to control women
if they get rid of that. Because the way divorce, the way
that progression, that progression fits with just like
Western world as well, like you know the story of Henry the
eighth. Do you know who Henry the Eighth

(48:37):
was? Yeah, I think he has a whole
musical about all his wives. Why does he have so many wives?
What did he do? He cheated or I don't.
I killed them. Yes.
So he killed them. So why?
Because no fault divorce wasn't a thing.
So the reason we have divorce laws is because back then he

(48:58):
probably had a low sperm count and couldn't father children.
So it's the woman's fault. So instead, he couldn't divorce
them, so he would kill them, right?
Then we got divorced later. So right.
So when you're talking about like in the 1920s where you had
to like these are the only ways that you can get divorced, like
you had to legally prove that that was happening.
So if the wife couldn't prove hewas doing all of these things,

(49:22):
then she couldn't divorce. And you had to legally prove
this in a court of law that it was happening.
So like in the 20s, like it might have been harder if you
didn't have access to DNA tests or things like that because you
legally had to prove and it was really high barrier to prove
these things. So while like, yeah, you could,
it was extremely difficult in a court of law to prove these
things. So like, they had to keep

(49:43):
loosening the reins to be like, OK, but the key is like, you
mutually had to agree. So that's why like in the show,
he's like, I'm not going to agree to this.
So then I can't legally. That was the whole crux of
affair where like, Ike is like, I'm not legally divorcing you,
Juan. We will legally be married this
whole time. Like he was trying to pull the
same shit here to be like my last move is to not sign the

(50:04):
papers basically. Yeah, and I, I did look into
that too. And I believe that it's still
allowed. It's just like this huge court
hearing cost so much money, right.
And again, with if they're you're getting divorced, the
woman has to be able to fund that trial.
Too well, also to in this case, she's like basically because

(50:25):
he's a, he has a bigger name. She's like, well, that's going
to be all over the press. Do you want that to us our our
divorce is going to be super public.
Do you want that? Because then the shame of that
would, would coax him to be like, fine.
But yeah, you had to go through a giant legal battle to, like,
leave these awful men basically as the bottom line.

(50:45):
Yeah, it to your point where like the marriage is like just
controlling women and like divorce is predominantly led by
the women. When the law was passed in 1976
that that was just amended that if both parties agreed there was

(51:06):
about 10,000 marriages divorces a year.
Where in 2022 with the reform allowing without any specific
grounds, it increased to 146,159divorces in one year.
And that's even the year before that it was 118,539 divorces.

(51:32):
So that is a 23% increase just in one year by allowing women to
not have an actual like reason. Well, no, I'm sorry, I shouldn't
say women. It was just marriages in general
not have to have a reason like cheating or anything like that
be the reason for the marriage to dissolve.

(51:55):
But then also again, it is beingmore accepted.
We know that religion plays a big part.
Like they don't really accept divorce.
It's more you work through it, ignore it.
I don't know if they tell you toignore it, but that's what
people have to do to stay married if they're not happy.

(52:16):
But with Western culture being more viewed in media, it's
becoming more accepted. And that is why #representation
matters, bitch. Yeah.
Because you're able to. It's it normalizes it.
Also, women are increasingly becoming more independent and

(52:36):
able to separate because a lot of these women, again, we see it
in the show, she's with him and she didn't have the money and
now her whole family is wrapped up in his money, which is why
she is staying. But she does have a job and she
is working and unfortunately it is in the hospital though, so

(52:56):
that's the whole thing. Yeah, I was always wondering,
I'm like, what's going to happento her and Cowie at the end of
this because they work in his hospital.
Will they go somewhere? Else to work.
That was never addressed, but just that was by curiosity.
But yeah, it's your point. Then there's a whole political.
There's a stigma attached to divorce is like the bottom line,
there still is. Like there is there is a stigma

(53:16):
attached to divorce like still to this day.
And then people looking at that figure to be like, OK, once you
made no fault divorce a thing and you see this huge spike in
divorces that's like sustained, then people are like, wow, this
ruined marriage. Like marriages don't last
anymore. And it's like people were
hostages in their marriages and legally couldn't leave these
hostage situations, right? Like it's not this glamour.

(53:39):
Like you look back at the past and be like, wow, tradition.
It's like, no, no, no, people were hostages in their own
lives. And it's like that wasn't a good
thing. Like again point of view
matters, but anyway so. Yeah, I also don't want people
to think that I'm just advocating for people to get
divorced, like because I know inthe show I was like, she really
needs to get a divorce. And I say that in a couple

(54:01):
different reaction because, like, they're not happy and I
just really want them to get outof it and live for themselves.
Unfortunately, some people are not able to do that, but I'm
just glad it's become a little more accepted because the the
mom really did need to get out of there.
Well, here's the thing they easily could have.
It's how it was handled in the show.

(54:22):
Like obviously, like again, thatwas the letting go part that for
her arc, but also for Kawi. Let's talk about Kawi too,
because it easily could have gone down that mom told him I'm
getting a divorce because Duck Rack was championing that years
ago. And then she could have easily
been like, son, I'm divorcing your dad and he the man of the

(54:42):
house, right? The next man in the house could
have easily flipped out on his mom.
Be like, how could you? And blah, blah, blah.
And like he easily could have flipped out on her because he
was always trying to be the goodson, right?
He's set up as like, I'm going to take over the business.
I'm doing everything dad wants me to do.
He easily could have flipped outon his mom, but he didn't like
he was very supportive of her, which it to me is a GMMTT twist

(55:03):
on this whole thing. But he easily could have been
that person and mom, another reason for mom to be scared.
So let's talk about Kawi for me.Let's like way into him because
with him we get a really good depiction of like mental health
and a positive male role model. I dare to say we get a few in
this show, positive male role models, which are really

(55:24):
important. Kyle is one of them who just
tries to be a really good brother.
And then we have the doc racks like Cafe friends.
So ache really. He's a goofball and a dork, but
like he's a father figure for everybody in that cafe.
And like Peem also was really sweet and always was like, let's
be supportive and like so I lovethe men in this show, excluding
the dad like that. There's a lot of positive male

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figures, and I appreciate that because #representation matters.
Like too many toxic male characters.
Like I like this. But let's focus on Kylie for a
minute. So Kylie throughout the show
battles with #1A savior complex that he has and two, depression.
So, and he's constantly battlingbeing like, oh man, there's a

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darkness in me that nobody knowsabout.
I keep to myself. So he's really this more like
internal character that does keep things to himself, but we
very consistently see he feels like he's inadequate because he
sees his family falling apart. And it becomes really apparent
when Duck Rock fucks off and she's like, I can't with you
guys and leaves. And I think he takes that as

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personal failure. And so I think that's why he
maybe like does more to like people please his dad because
he's like, I'm trying to get DocRock back.
I'm trying to like put the family back together.
It fell apart because I couldn'tkeep her here.
And like every time there's a problem, like Pam's mom has
Pam's grandmother has cancer or like mob boss needs something or
Oat needs something, he jumps inimmediately.

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He's like, how can I fix it? He's like got that controlled
tendency that his dad has, but it's in the not in a malicious
narcissist way. It's in the complete opposite,
self sacrificing way where Kawi's like he's kind of the
father figure also, but he's like the loving father figure,
not the narcissistic father figure.
Or he's like, how can I keep thefamily together?
How can I be paternal to everybody?

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And then the end ends up sacrificing himself because
there's no room or no energy left for him to take care of
himself because he's trying to take care of everybody.
And it like ends up to his detriment because he can't
control all these situations andhe can't make everybody happy.
And I think he takes that reallypersonally.
And that's part of that like savior complex that he has that

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harms him. Oh, Kylie, Yeah, he's definitely
living to make sure everyone else is OK, because you also see
that like he found another one of the children and that's

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that's another big reveal. Like there, there are multiple
children that he had that the father has.
And he's just constantly trying to hide the father's mistakes.
He's he's helping the dad continue do that so the mom
doesn't see it and making sure everything's OK like you're
saying. Yeah, but I mean, he didn't like

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find these people and do this out of the goodness of his
heart. The dad ordered him to do all
these things like the dads like go shut up this kid.
But instead of like throwing money at the child and being
like, uh, it's your fault my family broke apart.
Koi tries to be the dad where he's like, you know, the Koi I
think is the the other child that we see who says like you're
the only person who like gives me gifts every year.

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Like comedy. The way he chooses to handle it
is this paternalistic, like loving kind of way where he
handles the situation versus thedads like here's money bye.
You don't even like with Bob boss.
What happened with mob boss? Mob bosses mom dies.
What happens? Dad sends his assistant with a
check, that's how he handled it.Kawi physically goes and sees
the kid and it's like happy birthday.

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Like he handles it in a completely different way than
his dad, but he's doing it because dad ordered him and this
is the despicable thing the dad did.
And like this happens with kids.I don't know if you could relate
to this, but like when parents are fighting, sometimes the kid
gets did it against the parents and like the dad did that with
Kowee. He's like, you're going to be
the next you're going to take you're my successor.

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So you should know all the things that I'm doing and here's
how you handle it so I can teachyou how to follow in my
footsteps. So he like makes him an
accomplice and all this bullshitthat's tearing the family apart.
And poor Kowee, the Savior is like, well, as the son being the
good son, I have to listen to mydad, even though what I'm doing
is despicable. And you can see it tears him up

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because he's a good, he's a good-natured person.
He's a loving person by nature. And his dad is forcing him to do
things that go against his nature and it's eating him up
inside. Like you very much see him very
conflicted with what he knows what the dad's doing is wrong.
But he's like, if I go against my dad and I stand up to him,
that's also wrong. Like that society tells me

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that's wrong. So like, he's like trying to do
his best to like people please and make everybody happy.
And he's the one who's miserableat the end of the day.
And it gets so bad that it escalates to like self harm
basically with Chloe. There's a strength in these
kids, though, to like, not go with the same thinking as the
dad. I'll say the dad because the mom

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again couldn't really be present.
She had her own thing going the way that.
She wanted to be so, but the waythat he did not actually
continue on with the dad's beliefs, that is that strength
in itself. Every time he sent a birthday
present for Koi, Will gave it toher.

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That was him being strong enoughto know that that was wrong and
the way that they were able to see that.
I don't know if it was media or how because Dokarak also
challenged the same beliefs thatshe was raised with.
I mean, Doc Rick was straight upbullied by one of the kids.
Remember that scene where she's at school and the kid bullied

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Doc Rack and they're having thismeeting and the kids like your
dad, my dad is so upset because your dad's fucking my mom and
Doc Rick got bullied. So that's where she got it from.
And she was like, this is wrong.That's what she has personal
experience and I'm sure Kaoui like this comes from personal
experience, but he chooses to beto do be a loving person.
Like he makes those choices whereas his dad was like callous

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about everything. Yeah, you see the the contrast
of the choices you make. Exactly like Howie easily could
have followed in his father's footsteps in every aspect, but
he didn't. He fought it like and you see
it, but he internalizes it. He's complicit, he goes along
with it, he handled, he makes his own choices where he can to

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like do it his way, but he is complicit up to a while, but
it's eating him alive. Like you can see that he's not
happy about this, but he's thinks he's doing it and.
Fortunately. For the right reasons.
He he takes after his mother in the fact that he does
internalize his problems and does not let other people in on

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it. Where like mom was just like
keeping all of her feelings down.
Kawi again, is not showing people that he's not OK and that
is why it gets worse. Luckily we do have Oat who knows
him so well because she's able to read people that she's able

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to alert like, hey, something's wrong, keep an eye out on him.
But Kylie wasn't taught to sharewhat's going on.
It's like you do what I say, notwell.
He didn't care if he would do ashe did does.
I mean, Kawi, again, the people pleaser, he's not going to

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burden other people with the wayhe feels.
And let's go to my favorite thing that they did was again
making mom a psychiatrist. So the irony of having your
mother being a psychiatrist, somebody who takes care of
people with clinical depression and missing all the signs of
what's going on with Kawi. I will say she didn't just she
didn't miss everything. There were moments where she's

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like, you're not OK, what's wrong?
And he was so good at masking that she didn't, she was like,
OK, I believe you because he hadplausible excuses.
Every single time somebody wouldask, are you OK, He'd be like,
you know, long hours at the hospital work.
It's work stuff. It's work.
And they're like, that's plausible because the doctors
are very busy and they don't sleep.

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And like, yeah, that's plausible.
So it goes to show you again, that lesson of like, people
could not be OK. But when if they're not ready to
tell you that, you're not going to know, especially somebody
who's intelligent like this, whocan mask and be like, it's fine,
it's fine, it's fine. But then he would get to his
breaking point around certain people, like his psychiatrist
friend, like he would get to hisbreaking were like he couldn't
hold it in anymore and would just kind of it would come out

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and burst. And then he would have to like
rein himself back in and be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I
can't get this under control. Get yourself under control.
And Oak kind of saw that when hewas at his breaking point and
he's at the bar and he kind of like lashes out a little bit at
the friend. And that's when she's like,
something is wrong because he's not, he's not masking right now.
And that's when she's like, I'm actually worried about him
because he's not behaving like himself.

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And I can see that. Whereas in front of mom, he was
more controlled because he's like, I have to keep the family
together, like, you know. Yeah, it's also just the nature
of being in that damn house. They're all.
Like under the dad's thumb, likethey can't even talk at dinner
unless he shows up. Like everybody is small and
under his thumb and like, that'sthe house they're in.

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So like, they're, they behave. Everybody behaves that way.
They're like, I can't be myself in this house.
Nobody is. That's why dark rocks.
Like I can't with you mother fuckers and Julies, Yeah.
Good for her, I'm so proud of her.
But yeah, like, and the big scene when from Kawi, when he's
with his psychiatrist friend at the hospital, there's like,

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having a lunch or whatever, and that's when he really slips up.
And he says the lines, like, andhe says something like, well,
who's going to hold everything together?
Like, if I'm not OK, like, because the friend is like,
you're not OK. And he's like, I have to be.
And he's like, well, why? And he's like, well, if I'm not,
everything's going to fall apart.
So again, he sees himself as like, trying to control himself

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to, like, be OK because he has to be OK.
Because if he's not OK, nobody else is OK because he's the one
that takes care of people. And so just goes to show you how
much pressure he puts on himselfconstantly to like be
everybody's savior basically. And it really like gets to him
to the point where he's at like the self harm stages and like

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that's when nobody can ignore it.
He can't hide it anymore once hegets to that or he doesn't want
to hide it or I don't know. And that's when poor mom in the
hospital, she's like, I'm a psychiatrist.
I didn't even see any of this. And it's like I feel so bad for
her in her moment because I'm like, you did.
You did see something was wrong with him, but he was so good at
masking and like convincing you that he was fine that like

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that's why you didn't, that's why you quote didn't see it.
Like, Kylie chose to, like, do these things so that you
wouldn't see that he was not OK because he felt so strongly that
he had to be OK. Like, for you and for everybody.
And just that's like, the ultimate irony of their
situation. It's really sad.

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You know what, I so Kali in the beginning I kept forgetting that
he was there, but by the end I definitely did not forget he was
there because you do grow to love him as you really do see.
Him. Because you don't see everything
going on at the very beginning. Because, you know, it's a show
with arcs. And stream MTV.

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Yes, and Chloe, he's I'm just I'm just glad that that family
is back together, happy without because that family is together
fully because it's full stop. The dad should never have been
part of. It he chose to leave the family
a long time ago, it's just they were physically trapped in the
same house together. OK, favorite scenes?

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Let's jump to this. Let's do some happiness after we
got through the heavy stuff. Does that sound good?
Why not? Yeah, I, I, I want to bring up a
scene first because it's just it's it's the most light hearted
scene of the show. I'm just maybe not the show, but

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of episode 2. OK.
And it's where it's where Dunk Rack is just being herself and
playing in the rain. Oh my God, and.
She's so cute licking the raindrops.
It is so adorable. You you first start by like,
seeing her kind of dance. Not really dance.
So is it the bus? Stops.

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Yeah, because she's. Listening to music too, so she's
like dancing and like playing inthe rain, so.
You see her like moving her feetwith the rain, kind of
reminiscent of a kid splashing in puddles.
And then she's just like literally just standing in the
rain with her hands out and justlooking up.
So joyful. And the reason that I love this

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is that it shows that even though she's had to find her own
path and didn't have the supportof her family, she is still
taking those moments to be young, be in the moment and
present and not have the weight of the world take over.
Again. This is the character who shows

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us that don't let the past define who you are.
And in this moment, you really see like, she's, she's just
being herself. And it's so, so cute.
I mean, you're watching a puppy play in the rain.
Literally this is a puppy. So cute.
Love her and I love these moments of her just being young.

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I'm not. Just.
Stressed and being happy. That's it because that was the
theme, right? Fine happiness throughout the
day. And that was her little moment
of happiness. She's like, I just like when it
rains. Which good thing you live in
Thailand, girl, because like yougot rainy seasons and shit, like
you got top. I'm glad you like, I'm glad you
like the rain. This could have been real bad
for you. Like in a tropical as somebody
who lives in a tropical environment, honestly, tropical

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rain is, is when it's not flooding.
Like it's fun because it's like warm rains.
It's not terrible. Yeah.
OK, so Speaking of Duck Rack being adorable and fun, I love
when we get to episode 3 where Oat shows up at the Cafe to like
talk to Duck Rack and then Pam shows up and and like and like

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Oat starts like flirting with Duck Rack or just like being
flirty. I don't know that she's actually
like, flirting or she's just a flirtatious person which my boss
hates. But then I was like, you're
stuck with me, bitch. Anyway, so she comes to talk to
her and she's like, I don't know, like I don't know what
she's doing. She's like touches her hair or
something. And then Pam comes in and then
we get jealous Pam for the firsttime who's like, that's mine,

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hands off, even though I'm dating her brother.
That's mine. And then oh, it's like, this is
this is fun. I sense gay stuff.
So oh, it starts this hand holding game with Pam to piss
off Pam and like, OK, so then itends up pissing off duck rack,
which is my favorite part because then like, oh, it's
like, how about I hold your handPam and then duck racks.

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Like I want to play the game. And then she puts her hand on
top of Pam's and like makes thispouty puppy dog face.
And then and then, oh, it's like, well, that's interesting
duck rack that you're you quote,playing the hand holding game
involves touching Pam's hand andnot mine.
And then duck rack. Oh yeah, God damn it.
That's like end the game. And again, it was so masterful

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flirting from boat and like shitstirring.
But also the way duck rack was just like mad puppy.
Well, the way they put her hand on Pam, it's so the face she
made had. Have you seen that trend where
the two people put their hands in and then they the dog puts
its hand? Oh yeah, we have our dog do
that. She actually did it the first
try. Really.

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Damn girl, she did. It it's so cute, but yeah,
that's the way that you just look at her.
Face like her face was like thisis mine.
It's so funny and I was like, that's weird, but that's how you
chose to play the game Duck rackThat's not revealing at all.
It was so funny and in the scenewhen it's happening, we do get a

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whiny puppy dog sound from duck rack when she does that.
So like she is being a puppy, putting her paw on on basically
a pan stand, which is she's really cute and funny and just
everything about that was hilarious.
And like, again, it's a good it's a jealous scene, but it's
like, oh, it's like this is funny that you guys are being
jealous right now. I wonder why?
And then they're like, we're notgay, whatever, Oh, whatever.

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Like it just gets get them to like realize that the way they
feel is so funny. You think?
Oh ever gets tired that she has to work so hard to get people
together? I think she finds it amusing.
She does. She does.
Not a scene, but episode 7 is myfavorite episode.

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So there's a couple of scenes inparticular that I love, but as a
whole episode 7 is my favorite episode in the whole show.
Maybe GMMTV has a thing for episode 7 because episode 7 like
23.5 was like a good one too. The rewatchable 1.
I think they have a thing for episode 7 anyway, so a couple
scenes I just want to highlight from that episode.
First of all, the scene where Duck Rock takes Pam to the fair

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house and Duck Rock almost breaks down in front of her mom
it when she first walks in and hasn't seen her mom in a while
and almost starts crying becausethe mom's like, are you
struggling? Because like, mom's worried
about her. But the way it comes off, it's
kind of like, are you a failure daughter is like the way I
interpreted it. And Duck Rock almost starts
crying because she's like, yeah,this is fucking hard.

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And then Pam sees this and Pam'slike, I'm proud of her though,
because what she's doing is really difficult.
And like, Pam just steps in and like defends her then later and
she she's like, oh, it's so impressive what she's doing,
isn't it? You should be proud of her, all
of you. So like, and that that's when
Kylie's like, wow, OK, Pam actually cares about my sister.
Like that was a big moment that Pam did that.
And then unfortunately later thedad shows up and then does some

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domestic violence to Duck Rack and Pam, who just like gets in
his face after he just assaults his daughter and is like don't
fucking touch her ever again. But easily like the way she like
defends Duck Rack on both frontsto both parents in very
different ways was huge. And I love that Pam does that
for Duck Rack. First of all, love someone

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stepping up for the person that they love and not being
intimidated by them because she's meeting her girlfriend's
parents too for the first time well, in.
Keem's mind. This is the first time, but this
is not the first time she's met this bitch.
It's not. Actually, the first time, yeah.

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1st, I mean the mom, yeah. There's a lot of history there.
So yeah, I guess why that's why she's not.
Partially why she's like, because in your face, Sir, I
know that you're awful. You killed my parents.
Yeah. Don't fucking touch.
No, she doesn't. There's no respect there because
there shouldn't be. But also, this is really like
Pam's introduction. Or like, not introduction but

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Pam seeing for her own two eyes what the family is like behind
closed doors. Like he's assaulting his
daughter, like, and then he thenshe's like, how why would you do
this? This is illegal.
And he's like, it's my daughter.I legally can hit her and teach
her a lesson. And Pam's like, wow, this is the
environment you grew up in. Like it makes her second guess a

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lot of things. So he's not just awful to people
he doesn't know, he's awful to his own family.
Like that's why I started clicking for Pam.
Like this man is the problem. Not these are hostages and this
house like they're hostages. I was probably thinking that
moment, if my boss just saw this, yeah, she would realize
that there the whole family's not.

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Yeah. Exactly.
He's like assaulting them and shit.
Yeah, anyway, so I love. Def White.
Yeah, go ahead. Sorry, I was just to say I love
protective girlfriend Pam. That was great.
I mean, protective girlfriend Pam is amazing.
Oh yes, but I love when I would think we talked touched on this

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scene, but the mom tells mob boss that their family was
broken a long time ago because she asked my boss like what do
you want? And my boss is like, I want your
family to be destroyed. And she's like, OK, well you
succeeded then because that's been destroyed for a long time
now. So then mob and then she's
basically like, So what are you working for towards?

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Because what you want has already been done, whether you
know it or not. Yeah, like, but like Mob, the
problem with Mom Bus is she doesn't know who she is without
that mission because she's been focused on that mission so
solely for such a long time, shejust doesn't know it.
Even the same conversation happens in the in the hotel,

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hotel, the hospital after she gets assaulted and Pam sees her
and Pam's like, it's done. They're in shambles, It's over.
And like you see mob boss havingtrouble accepting that because
like, what is her life without this just mission she has?
Like because again, the vengeance doesn't solve the
problem. It just gives her a sense of

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purpose while she's like dealingwith or avoiding her grief
basically. So like, anyway, wait to go back
to episode 7, I already talked about the OST song because in
detail, because I love that scene.
The other scene I love in episode 7 is the impromptu
proposal scene, which is the DocRack being like, well, my dad

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just took my last name away fromme and I don't have one Pam.
And Pam's like, is this you asking to share mine?
And then Doc Rack's like, well, yes, but do I have to marry you
to get it? Can we get married the way she
just does? And Pam was like, do you know
what you're saying right now? And she's like, yeah, no, I
we've been dating for three weeks, but I know exactly what
I'm saying right now. This was such a lesbian move,

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but smooth as fuck. Like, go Duck rack to be like, I
want to marry you. And I'm just letting you know
that right now. And the way Pam is just like,
consider us engage and I'll get you a ring when I got money.
Like that was the cutest proposal scene of all time.
The thing I love about that is the way they, like, positioned
them where they had like, Duck rack sitting on the bed and like
her, like the way Pam was like on the floor and the way her

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legs were like, intertwined withPam and they're when they're
hugging. It was so cute.
I just love the positioning theyhad.
It was very like tender and sweet the way they blocked the
two of them basically. It was really beautiful.
They may have only been dating three weeks, but in docker ex
mind she's been pining longer sothey've been dating that whole

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time they were dating. The whole time.
She's the one who's drawing the postcard, so.
Yeah, no, she was a deep in deep.
Speaking of their relationship, Episode 8 where Kawi accepts
Duck Rock and Pam's relationship, that was such a
good scene because the three of them, this could have been a

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blow up. This could have been we have to
have drama scenes kind of scenario.
But I love that the three of them have an honest conversation
and all three of them admit theyplayed a role in deceiving each
other, including Pam. Like Pam doesn't 100% come clean
in this situation, but she's like, I was also like into dog

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crack while dating, you know what I mean?
Like they were like, we all wereat fault here in in one way or
another. Like this was messy.
But they like talk about it likeadults.
And I love that Kylie's like, I'm not angry like cuz again,
this is coming off the cusp of watching Pam almost like broke
hands with his or her dad, like,and so he's like, obviously you
care about her. Like this isn't some fake weird

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thing. And this is after mom Boss was
like, well, if I had a family member that tried to date my
significant other, I would exilethem forever.
And so Kylie's like, again, he'sat it.
That's a crossroads for him. He's like, I could either be mad
at my sister and cast her out orlike really reflect on this and
work through it. And he chose the other option.
And what I love about this too is not only does he, like,

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accept their relationship and they talk it through later in
the episode when they're talkingabout it, like, you know, Doctor
Rick's like, well, we're not really telling anybody about our
relationship. And and he's the one who
encourages them. He's like, don't be closeted
about it. There's nothing wrong with your
love. Like, I want to support you.
I'll support you. So I love that he's like not

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only do I support this, like I will out and proud support you
because I see how good you guys have it.
You know what I mean? Like he like encourages them to
like be public with their relationship.
That was huge, you know, coming.From him, that's yeah, that's
the best part of it is like, be public about it.
Because they'll support you. Oh my God, it was really sweet.

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Really sweet, I mean. It also helped that like he did
find out before and they didn't know.
He had time to process. That time to like, process
everything that was happening and like, calculate his words.
Again, he is the people pleaser,but like, he can calculate, OK,
how should I exactly react to this?
And he didn't have to worry about them seeing his first

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reaction. So again, it's just the
processing of what's going on. And deep down, I mean their
relationship was not a relationship, so.
It was surface level stuff. Yeah.
Like she didn't really know him.He didn't know her, you know?
But that was really sweet, he was.
Doomed from the start? Yeah.

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Also because it was started for other reasons on Pam's part.
It was a relationship that started in deception and you can
clean. You can make the same argument
that like Pam and Doc Rex relationship was a relationship
that started with deception. And so like when they have to
come clean, you know, also dealtwith it in the same way where
like Dark Rock's first reaction is just like, wow, poor Pam.

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I can't believe that with her parents, like, you know what I
mean? She's like, I care about you,
you know, it's whatever it is, whatever.
But anyway, OK, other favorite scene that I absolutely love,
which is a super fun, cute scene, was that in episode 12 at
after the funeral where everybody's about saying goodbye
to Pam basically, and everyone besides the gang up on Duck Rack
because Duck Rack's like, oh, I'm studying.

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And then, you know, I'll be in university soon and like mom's
like, well, Kylie's going back to work soon.
And Kylie's like, wait, I want to go back to work.
I won't be able to help you as much.
And then my boss is like, I'll help you Duck Rack.
And like, they just start like ragging on her.
Everybody is ragged and, and Duck Rack's like everybody's
gagging up on me. It's such a funny scene, like in
front of Pam's, in front of her mother.

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Pam is like, this one's stubborn.
You have to like make sure she studies and like they're just
like ragging on her and it's so and she's like, God damn it, why
am I always the butt of the joke?
It's. So funny there because you're
the, you're the glue for everybody right now.
And it's just, you're the, the common denominator.
Yeah. It's cute for a lot of reasons.

(01:22:26):
It's just funny dialogue and Docand then Bonnie's acting like
the sad puppy. But what I really love about the
scene as I love it for what it is, which is it's family
bantering. Like you have like Pam the girl,
you know, the girlfriend slash the in laws, you know, teasing
duck rack, and then you have mobboss who's there, who's like
acting like a sibling, You know what I mean?

(01:22:48):
Like and to have their mother there.
Watch all this go down. It's very like the kids are all
right moment. You know what I mean?
Like the kids are all right. Like look at them bonding and
making fun of my youngest daughter.
It was the point. Of the joke, it's a it's a very
sweet scene, but my favorite part is definitely Nini mob boss
yes, stepping up being like, I'll help you.

(01:23:10):
That was her. That's when you know she fully
accepted her spot in that familyand she was looking forward to
the future. And she volunteered and then
she's like, I'm not as nice as Kami, though, just so you know.
I do all that, she keeps it real.
So funny and like, yeah, like Docker's like, damn, he's not
going to be just fierce. It was just cute, like

(01:23:30):
everything about it was. That should have been the rare.
You can't have this cat noise asthey're sons.
We got cat noises in Pluto Fiora.
Did we? We did for May, I'm pretty sure
for. Yeah, for May.
That would make sense. That would make sense.

(01:23:51):
I mean, go back and rewatch Pluto.
Oh well, no. OK, last thing I'll say and what
I want. Do you have any other points
before we just end this with DocRock and Pam?
No. OK, last point before we end
wrap this up is Doc Rock and Pamhave never done anything wrong
in their lives. Like no, never.

(01:24:15):
Not a goddamn thing. They're so well.
Because like, even things that were like.
Were they wrong and? They're they're, they're choices
like we've, we've talked about this.
It's choices for everything. It's not wrong.
They chose one way or the other.No, no, yeah, I love them.
I thought that they were a very complimentary type of couple

(01:24:37):
where you had like sunshine, black cat and then as in the
beginning, and then they got to know each other and they start
rubbing off on each other. And you see like Dark Rack's
cheekiness. The, the one of the running
jokes is like Pam, you're suddenly all cheeky and
affectionate and stuff. And that was because Dark Rack
taught her how to do it. And then she's like, I'll do it
back. And like you can see them
rubbing off on each other, whichis how relationships work.

(01:24:59):
So like the way they flesh them out was very realistic.
It felt organic and realistic and not circumstantial.
It was just like a consequence of them spending time together
and they started to like rub offon each other, which is how that
works. And it was really cute.
Personally, I really enjoyed that.
What? OK, so ending with the two of

(01:25:21):
them. Speaking of ending, you're
going. To talk about the last their
last scenes. Yes.
Yes. OK, wait, wait.
Before we get there, I just wantto in the middle say one more
quick thing. I love that there was no
grandiose end for them. It's just they were just living
a simple life at the end. And particularly I love that

(01:25:44):
there's no like big marriage thing with them like this.
This show was shot in a time where like it is legal.
Same sex marriage is actually legal in Thailand.
But the when they filmed this orwhen it released.
And so I love that we get like the cute, like can I have your
last name proposal thing? And then we just time jump and
they're already married and there is no like big

(01:26:05):
announcement. If you notice when if you notice
when they cut four years later and we get to Doc rack and Pam,
they have this the shot of them like waking up together.
And if you notice on the side table is their marriage license.
That's how they announce it. They're like, here it is.
There's their marriage now there's a marriage license in
the bed with them and they have rings.

(01:26:27):
And then later it comes out verbally.
But like that's it. There was no big anything.
It was just they were just living their life.
And that's like how marriage really is most of the fucking
time. Like it's just this thing that
happens. And like, I love that they
didn't make a big deal about it.They just continued being Dark
Rack and Pam and they wake up the same way they've always woke
up together, which was like being like Dark Rack not waking
up because she's not a morning person, which never changes.

(01:26:48):
And then Pam was the morning person.
He's like Dark Rack, you got to get out.
I'm like, let me pepper you withaffection so that you'll wake up
and the dark rock's like yay. That's how I like the way like
they don't change like that. They're just still them and
that's what marriage is. It doesn't change you in this
profound way. It's just like a thing you it's
a big party to celebrate your I mean it some some people, but
like, you know what I mean? It didn't change them and make

(01:27:10):
it this big announcement. They were just like, that's part
of our journey. That was it.
I love that. Thank you GMM TVA for that
choice. I liked that choice a lot.
Also I'm just personally glad wedidn't get the wedding because I
hate weddings. I do too.
I'd rather have the proposal than the Wed.
Unless like again, unless I meanso it works for some stories,

(01:27:30):
but like here I love they skipped all of it.
They're like, no. Because this, this show is more
about living in the moment, right?
They're living their lives and just, yeah, I mean, they
couldn't find. Jump to the wedding when they
did. It.
Yeah, yeah. I like that they didn't.
You know what, because it kind of makes this next part more

(01:27:52):
impactful because you know what,let's just get into this, do it.
So they go teach these little children about taking care of
their teeth and the all these scenes with the kids are the
cutest thing. So they didn't do like, oh, Duck
Rack and Pam have children, but they have them interacting with

(01:28:12):
them. And I think that's like a better
way cuz like not all couples need to have children but it's
still you getting that like dynamic.
And then they are all having lunch.
First of all, I don't understandwhere their actual teachers are
because these two are definitelynot their actual teachers.
I think they in the dialogue, they're like we're the

(01:28:33):
substitute teachers for the day cuz like they did dental health
and then they did art. So I think they were the
teachers, OK. You know what, that that would
make sense then. Yeah, OK.
They are the adults. They are the adults and the kids
are like, are you 2 dating or girlfriends?

(01:28:54):
And then the looks that they got, they were like, first of
all, the fact that they're able to say this is amazing, but they
tell them we're actually married.
And then the kids are so happy. For it.
And it's just like showing that the generational acceptance,

(01:29:15):
like we don't have any of that. What?
You're married. She's like, girl, no, it's just
like, yay, you're married. And they, they love that.
And it's just so cute. I love those scenes so much.
It makes my heart happy. I love.
I think that was beautiful for all the reasons you said.
I also love the Pam being like stop looking at my wife scene

(01:29:37):
with the child. First of all, Oh my God, it is
funny, but this is a nod to the novel because in the novel mini
spoiler, what ends up getting the two of them back together in
the end is this little boy who basically tries to flirt with
Pam as the dentist and Doc Rack finds out like they're not on

(01:30:02):
speaking terms. It's like it's very different
than the but anyway, the Doc work essentially like sends the
kid to Pam and is like give her this cake because Doc work owns
a bakery. That's why I thought doc work
was going to take over the dessert saying because in the
novel shows up with her own coffee shop and massage bakery
and is like, hey, try to give her cake because Pam doesn't
like dessert. It's very famously because she's

(01:30:23):
a dentist and this kids tries flirting with Pam basically, and
Long story short, the kid is thecatalyst to get them to talk
again and like gets them back together.
So I like that they did a like atake on that here where like
this boy is trying to essentially flirt with duck rack
and Pam's like she's mine. Mr. so dark.
I was like David Pam, like he's a child.

(01:30:44):
But like it's, it's funny for a lot of reasons, but also like
you get a lot of dialogue in theshow where people who know Pam
are like, Pam's a sore loser. Pam is super jealous, like all.
And then she's jealous because that was really funny the way
she did. Like the way Emmy played it too.
It was very playful. So it made it like endearing,
not like, why are you threatening children?

(01:31:05):
It was just really fucking funnyto have her be like, she's mine,
Sir. Like it was so funny.
I love the way to get all of it.It was, yeah.
It was a cute way to end it for them because, like, you know,
there there was a scene where they're like, well, Pam's like,
should we run away together? Should we run away to a small
town? And like, they ended up getting

(01:31:25):
that like, quiet life because that's what they both wanted.
And they they make their own life together in, you know, the
house where grandma passed away with the happy memories.
And they made their lives what they wanted.
And do you see just how happy they are just like living their
life together? And it's just, I love that for
that. It was a very fitting story for

(01:31:46):
them. And just in general to see how
you make it work with the relationship when things are
difficult and how you know it with the drama scenes, you know,
that are in a drama, how they can just get their happy ending
and what that looked like for them.
And this is what it looked like for them, just a quiet little
life doing their thing. And so I'm very I love the way

(01:32:08):
it ended. It was really sweet.
And there's like pan brushing her teeth.
Like the ending was fantastic. We'll ignore the noodle scene at
the end because I feel like a that was out of sequence because
that noodle scene at the very end, that was like Doc wreck
moving out of her apartment and that should have happened before
the time job. So like.
That. Was I feel like they didn't know

(01:32:29):
where to put it. So they're just like.
Didn't she move out of that place to go to Pam's house?
And then she no, she that, whichwas really weird.
She didn't in the novel that ends up happening, but in the
show she never got rid of the lease.
So I don't know when she got ridof that lease.
It might have been before they took Grandma Bua.

(01:32:50):
I don't know. I feel like they didn't know
where to put. They had that somewhere and then
they're like, crap, where did weput those?
So they just like tag did not. They did that in Pluto too, a
few times. So they're like, we have this
product placement scene. We don't know where to put it.
We'll just put it at the end. Maybe when it aired, it aired
differently. I'm not, I'm not sure on the
YouTube if it was different, butlike I feel like they were just
like, we'll tag it out at the end because we don't know where

(01:33:11):
to put it. But if you ignore that, where it
actually ends is like a perfect ending for them because it's
just them living their cute little life.
It's us. It's just us.
Yeah, I do. The the ending is great.
I also would have accepted and kind of loved.
So to preface this, you you reminded me that Dokarak was

(01:33:37):
saving up to travel the world and use that money for the house
that Grandma Billa died in. Yep.
And so they could live in her hometown.
I would have loved if Pam saved up money and like presented
Dokarak with a ticket and they were going to go travel

(01:33:59):
together. That would have been cute.
Because then that would be like,OK, well, now we're doing it
together. We, we had to take this like
sidestep for our, our family. But now we can go live your
dream. That's becoming our dream.
Or I like that. Or like when they're in the
house getting ready, just see a bunch of travel pictures to show

(01:34:21):
that they travel. That would be a faster way to do
it. But yeah, so.
That that way we could have bothof the like just showing that
she didn't just and let go of what she wanted because she
wanted to travel. But if you listen to pay, if you
listen to Duck Rock, she's like,I kind of just, you know, I kind
of want to do. I think she was just figuring
out who she was. She was I want to see the world
or Thailand or Bangkok because Idon't have a lot of money.

(01:34:43):
That's true. You know, maybe she was just
trying to find her place in the world and here it is, and now
her place in the world is. Right here.
Exactly. Yeah.
But it would have been cute if they travelled.
Or like, there's evidence of them travelling.
That's for fan fiction guys. We're our fan fiction writers
anyway. Let us know, Let us know.
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So we'll start with Nerd Life 0789.

(01:36:30):
So we asked everybody why do youlove us a series and these are
the answers that we received. So nerd life says only girl love
couple to make it work no matterwhat.
Very different from the book andthey never broke up Yes, and I
like that they explicitly very much throughout the show would
be like we're going to get through this together.
We're going to get through this together.

(01:36:50):
They said it a bunch of times like and stuck with it.
So thank you, GMMTV. And yeah, this was not the novel
at all. This was an AU fan fiction.
We've we've already kind of described it.
And no third act breakout I again, we don't always need them
to break up for drama. There could be other dramas.
No GM. MTV Yes.
Thank you, I loved it. Loved it, loved it.

(01:37:12):
Camille under score RG5 says thestoryline mental health and Pam
and rock. Yeah, I don't know what the
subject. They they said the sub like
specifically the mental health and Pam and Rock the subjects
that they liked a lot. And I agree.
I think they they like we said abunch of times, they hit the

(01:37:34):
mental health thing in multiple angles, like subtly and then
explicitly with like Bah Bahs going to therapy and like that
kind of stuff. And that was a really good way
to handle that by like making psychiatrists out of one of the
characters like that was smart. And then Pam and Rock were just
absolutely adorable and their relationship evolution was so

(01:37:55):
beautiful. It cannot be stated enough.
It's very heart stoppery. We will compare things to Heart
Stopper because it's warm and fuzzy and tender and beautiful,
and that's what Heart Stopper is.
This is very hard stoppery. Team MTV is basically like
Thailand's heart stopper, essentially product factory.
It's so sweet. All right, then we got Paige

(01:38:17):
Zinoman who said from Instagram he says us.
The series brought more than just a healthy women loving
women relationship. The show explores the
complexities of love, identity, social pressures while
delivering A heartfelt and relatable narrative, one that is
pure and raw and beautifully crafted by everyone.
Yes, 10 out of 10. No notes to that.

(01:38:38):
Everybody deserves an award who worked on this show Like Oh my
God cannot be stated enough. Never All right next is from I
Dongs. Their intimacy and cute moments
are incredibly natural and realistic.
I found so much about myself in their I found so much yeah about

(01:38:59):
myself in their relationship. It was so soothing to watch
their pure love and connection. I think this series showed us an
authentic WLW representation like no other.
Girl love again, accurate. I love it.
Yeah, I like the word soothing because, yeah, it really is a

(01:39:20):
soothing television show to watch.
That is a really good way to describe it.
And I'm glad you found yourself in the material because it
really was relatable on a lot ofaspects.
Like I related a lot to Pam whenshe was going through what she
went through with the grandmother because I had a
loved one pass away with cancer and it was the same scenario

(01:39:42):
where you just see them deteriorate and there's like
nothing you do. And it's just that whole process
like is rough. So it was very relatable and
like Cowie with the masking and there's, there's a lot in it
that was just really well done and just everybody felt human
and not like it wasn't. Campy and not that it was trying

(01:40:05):
to be, but it didn't feel cartoonish or overly dramatic.
It was just very grounded. Caricature of people, correct.
Yeah. Like personalities.
Yeah. It was very grounded.
Everybody, even the villain, waslike, human, you know, very
grounded. Yeah.
All right, then. Rosie Pooh.

(01:40:25):
Rosie Pooh. Not sure, but thank you for
writing. So Razzie Puth says, OK, first
of all, they're actually, this is one of my favorite comments.
Shout out to you. You already know this because I
commented back. OK, First of all, their
chemistry doesn't. And this is talking about Bonnie
and Emmy. Their chemistry doesn't
chemistry. It's chemistry ING in all caps.

(01:40:47):
Yeah. Also, despite the minor false
pretense, they fall in love witheach other knowing who they are,
and they face the challenges together without being dramatic.
And Doc Wreck is not just a green flag, she's a freaking
Scandinavian green forest. Very relatable.
This read like a Tumblr post to me and that made me so happy.
Like I love this comment so much.

(01:41:10):
Oh my God yeah. They're.
Scandinavian Greens. Scandinavian green forest She is
though. Like Oh my God.
Like Dark Wreck is like she's a puppy dog.
Puppies can't do anything wrong.Like they're little green flags.
They're a whole fucking forest, like you said, and I do their
chemistry is very good. Like they like again, like
someone else said in our last last episode, like I hope they

(01:41:32):
get more projects and me and Bonnie, because like they have
something very special as an acting pair and that was their
first project. So I I can't, I would love to
see how that develops over time because they already got
something really good together. So I'm hoping GMMTV they're just
collecting all the good actors like at this point.
I hope they give them another show.
They did a great job. I I agree, I need I need to see

(01:41:59):
the chemistry anymore. Exactly.
What if they were chemists? I'd be OK with that.
Yeah. OK, So next we're going to go to
YouTube. And this is from Dominic
Thornburg, AKATRG. Now it's a lot.
They have a lot of comments about the show we're.

(01:42:20):
Here for. It let's get to it all right,
Don't crack was the greenest flag ever in any girl of yes.
She never said or did anything unkind.
That pure soul she really does. Her love and kindness is what
made Pam realize that she didn'thave to be alone anymore.
Also the grandmother was supportive of their relationship

(01:42:40):
from the start instead of being hateful like most girl loves.
Oh my God, remember when like they told grandma that was so
cute. Grandma's like, finally you have
a party at home. I'm so happy for you.
Yeah, I Oh Grandma Boo, we love you.
I'm also glad they didn't give the dad a.
Redemption art. Same.

(01:43:00):
He didn't need it. Dang yes it felt more realistic
that way. Dang, yes.
Because people are people, and some people thank you.
Just keep reading. Just keep reading your next
party with this whole comment. OK, some people won't change or
yeah change no matter what and he didn't deserve one anyway.
I do feel that they could have done more with the other

(01:43:23):
characters though. NACHA never got NACHA never got
a new partner. If you and Min's characters
barely even got started on theirrelationship, yes.
Yes. We never got a partner either,
and after what he went through, I feel he deserved a happy
ending too. But I also understand that his

(01:43:44):
character might not have been ready to be in a relationship
again. And great, great point, great,
great point. And I think that's also why too
much to our frustration, why it took Mob boss and Oates so long
to get together, because I thinkmob boss needed to do so much
healing because of her life thatlike it probably took her a
really long time to fully open up to another person like in

(01:44:04):
that way. So I feel like.
Also, how is she supposed to love someone when she doesn't
even know what love is she? Doesn't love herself.
Yeah, it's going to start with you first.
Work that has to happen. I mean, there's a lot of.
Work, well that makes sense but you know, season 2 or spin off
exploring her character and oh it's character more.

(01:44:25):
She's saying. Saying they all face different
traumas in this series and almost all overcame them.
It just shows how strong the characters were.
My favorite series last year wasPluto.
It still is my favorite, but this is a close second for me
Again, and this is this. GMMTV fan podcast because they

(01:44:49):
kill it. Everything you really do they.
Really do. They're just making it better
and better and like, those are great.
I love it. Girl rolls, baby, all of that,
all of that, literally everything.
We agree with you. That was great.
All right and last but certainlynot least, let's head on over to
TikTok. So we have S Desmond 1 Gen.
X. Thank you for always interacting

(01:45:09):
with us, by the way. We appreciate you.
We see you. We see you, we love you.
And they say just a soul healingshow, Supportive, trusting
girlfriends and a grandma that was loving.
Yeah. Soul healing is a good way to
describe this show also. Like, it's just that warmth and,
like, tenderness from the show, despite talking about, like,

(01:45:30):
difficult concepts, like grief, losing people, like, yeah, soul
healing because there's just so much support throughout the show
that it just. It really does heal, you know?
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
The support it's just. Yeah, it's the best just.
Love it. I can't.
I'm sorry my words are not wording right now because I
just. All I can say is I love it.

(01:45:53):
I know I love it. Sarah B says beautiful non-toxic
relationship, good communicationvillain Nini not the dad with
depth. OK understandable motive, not
just homophobia like in most girl loves and a deserved
redemption arc mental health Rep.

(01:46:14):
Yeah, they definitely did not gothe homophobia route at all.
Yeah, at all. Like they're like, no.
No, they didn't. Not at all.
Yeah. Well, I think did the dad have
like a line? I mean, he's.
Really, No, I don't think he hada line about Doc Rex's
relationship ever. It was more so just like he made
everything about himself. Yeah, because he didn't.

(01:46:38):
Care he was mad about her not going to Med school, basically
like he flipped out about art. He's like art, you know what I
mean? That's what he was mad about.
I don't even even put together that she was with Pam in that.
I don't even know it's about Pam.
Why would she tell him? I don't think you ever knew.
He doesn't deserve to know. He doesn't deserve to know about
you, girl. Fuck that man.

(01:46:59):
All right, let's move on to Alexa.
Alexa says. Love the whole cast.
They did their roles beautifullyin parentheses.
Chemistry was on point. Sure.
Was it chemistry? It was chemistry ING to quote
our other listener. Love that they went a different
route with the story than the yes.
Honestly like I tried to reread some of the novel and I was like
this is so different. I'm so glad they did what they

(01:47:20):
did. It was a really good fan fiction
based on a child plenoid novel. That's how I describe it.
So good. All right, last comment is from
Amrus Lunar Lunaray, I apologize, I butchered your
name. All right, the stories delivered
from any OK, I'm sorry, let me restart.

(01:47:43):
The stories delivered from any girl of series I have watched
are very beautiful and wholesome.
Love each and every one of them.Hell yeah.
The consensus is we loved us. Us was beautiful.
So good. OK, but if you had to give out
the Big Gay Energy award to something in us, the series or

(01:48:04):
someone, what would it be? OK, but can I have I need a last
name. You know what?
Oh, yeah. Oh my God.
Yeah. That scene.
Can I have your last name? That was amazing.

(01:48:26):
That had so much big gay energy coming from Duck Rack, who like,
Oh my God, that was amazing. I'm going to give it to the way
Oat ran her bar, which was just shamelessly flirting.
Oh yeah. Oat walked inside that bar.
Yeah, after I said that, I was like, how did you forget about
oat? Oat.
Oat is just big. Energy, the embodiment of big
energy. But no, that's that was my other

(01:48:46):
thought was that scene where DocRick's like, I don't have the
last name, Can I have yours? Yeah.
And then Pam took it a step further as like, I will get you
a ring one day. Like, like damn girl like that
with the whole scene, that was adorable, that had a lot of big
energy and I appreciate it. Big energy across the board,
though. Let us know what you would give

(01:49:07):
the Big Energy award to. Yeah.
All right. Secret word no.
All right, well that concludes us the series.
If you would like us to ever getinto the show in more of a scene
by scene format, just let us know.
Obviously, we'll happily talk about this forever, so just let
us know. But Next up, we're going to be
talking about Pluto. Finally, for those of you

(01:49:27):
waiting, we're sorry, it's just us happened.
What did you want from us? So that is what happened.
So we will get it to Pluto and it will be a scene by scene.
We'll go episode by episode and really dive into it because
there's so much to be said aboutthat incredible show.
O that's what's coming U next. And until next time, hydrate for
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