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August 24, 2025 34 mins

Our planet is getting hotter – and deserts, covering 41% of the Earth and nearly 20% of Australia, are on the frontline. What will the sweltering and scorching temperatures mean for the people and species that live there? At Secret Rocks in South Australia, Tiahni joins Dr Katherine Moseby and Jack Bilby who are braving extreme temperatures to help to protect native animals like bilbies and numbats survive.

Gareth Catt from the Indigenous Desert Alliance tells of how deserts are changing rapidly, making the practice of reading Country more difficult for Traditional Custodians.

Author Clive Hamilton explores resilience as social justice, while Dr. Rebecca Spindler urges bold, science-driven solutions – to make sure people and wildlife alike can handle the heat.

Topics Covered:

  • How rising temperatures are transforming Australia’s deserts
  • What’s being done to protect desert wildlife like bilbies and numbats
  • The challenges climate change poses to reading and caring for Country 
  • Why social justice and science must go hand in hand in climate resilience

Guests: Dr Katherine Moseby, Jack Bilby, Gareth Catt, Clive Hamilton 

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