SNL’s Comeback, IG Lowers Video Quality & Flag Football Pops Off (E7)

Is flag football the future of the NFL? Why is Instagram lowering video quality for certain users? And what’s on our Christmas list this year? For this week’s Big Things we’re talking about social media, marathons, SNL and more. Be sure to subscribe, follow and rate the show if you’re enjoying it!

More from us:

• Mitzi Payne @mmmitziP 
• Mike Payne @mmmiiike

Timestamps: 

• 01:00 – What we’ve been up to and highlights from The Gathering summit (Gary Vee, the NFL, sonic branding, huge brands & more). 
• 10:00 – The most important part of the conference: Our team karaoke picks. 
• 12:00 – Big Thing #1: Why is Instagram lowering the video quality on videos that don’t get as many views?
• 16:00 – Ideas to improve your Instagram engagement.
• 20:00 – The role of IG highlights. 
• 23:00 – Mitzi can’t stop crying at the New York Marathon. 
• 29:20 – We can’t stop singing Domingo (is SNL back on the rise?). 
• 31:40 – On our Christmas list this year. 
• 40:00 – Big Thing #3: Morgan Stanley is now letting investors invest in a portfolio tied to sports. 
• 45:00 – Flag football and the future of the NFL. 

Show notes:

• Arcade’s TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@helloarcade 
• SCAN 👀 CLUB’s 2024 Trend Report: https://scanclub.substack.com/p/what-digital-audiences-want-in-2024 

Big Things with Mitzi (@mmmitzi) and Mike (@mmmiiike).

For more from Arcade, follow us on Instagram and TikTok @helloarcade. https://www.arcadearcade.ca/

Production by Morgan Berna, editing by Oliver Banyard.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
welcome to big things .
I'm mitzi.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is mike and this is our show where we talk about
the big things that we'reseeing in marketing, social
media, pop culture and sports.
We'll also talk about thesignals that we're watching and
how they could inform the futureof digital marketing.
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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If you're watching this onyoutube, we just would love to
hear from you.
So it's great to be here.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
My pyt is pretty.
Youtubers.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Oh cute.
Today we're going to becovering a few big things.
The first one is Instagram isdowngrading creators' view
quality if they're not driving afuse, Apple is slowing down
production of the Vision Pro andMorgan Stanley is letting
clients invest in sports leagues.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Who's Morgan Stanley?
We're about to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, we'll talk about it, but, man, it feels
good to be back.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It does the last time we were here.
Man, it feels good to be agangster.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Wow, that's a throwback.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I know.
This chair reminds me of when Iwas healthy.
Well, you're healthy again.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I am healthy again.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's just been a bit of a journey since we were here
last.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yes, we had to delay a few recordings because we got
hit with a crazy stomach bug.
It was unlike one we've everexperienced and it took everyone
in our family out and we havetwo young kids, so both of us
struggling with that and thenthem also struggling with that.
It was a tough few days.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It was.
It was first our daughter,while we were away at a
conference, and then our son asshe just finally got better and
then we were last.
But we got hit at the same timeand it happened to be the
weekend that both of my parents,who live in the same city as us
, were gone, for differentreasons.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
And it just we weren't okay.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I was not okay.
We survived, but I was like canwe hire a nurse to?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
come and help us.
Like where do I pay for privatehealthcare?
Yeah, I was like can we hire anurse to come and help?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
us Like where do I pay for private healthcare?
Yeah, I was so desperate, I wasreally like at the, at the
bottom.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it's really something when both of us are
out of commission.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's like the one downside of doing this together,
like if we're both out fully,like everything is on hold.
Yeah, business, podcast,childcare like it's tough.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, we had to clock out on Friday from work and
reschedule some things and pushsome deadlines and just I got my
first migraine as far as Iunderstand it.
I didn't know at first what itwas, but I was obviously had a
headache.
It came on kind of slowly, um,but I also had vertigo.
I was dizzy, I felt like I wasdisoriented, my eyes hurt, I

(02:49):
couldn't focus.
I felt like I couldn't hold eyecontact with you or the kids.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Questions were hard.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm glad it was just a migraine and not something
more serious.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I'm glad you weren't just mad at me, but I
was truly concerned because I'venever seen you have a migraine.
We are one of the lucky fewpeople who don't get migraines.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I barely get headaches.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I know Same I never get headaches.
If I get a headache, it's likemy ponytail.
It's like never serious.
I'm very thankful that we don'thave migraines.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's because we got freaking vaxxed, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Stop, don't get into that.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Politics politics.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, no, no, no, no, no, stay with us, we're trying
we're a couple of sheep and wegot vaxxed.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, no, we didn't get all the boosters, but stop,
stop, stop now we're paying theprice okay, let's move on my
first migraine.
We should talk about aconference we were at.
Yeah, that was a good one yeah,it was really good.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
We went to the gathering.
We took 12 of our teamincluding us, and it was so fun.
It was three days in themountains and Banff.
We got to hear from amazingspeakers.
My favorite was Gary V, which Iwas not expecting to like so
much.
No offense to Gary V people,but I just felt like I've
consumed so much of his content.
I was expecting to just kind oflike it, to feel like the same,

(03:58):
but it was so good.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I think we still think of like grind culture.
Gary V from like the 20 20around like 2020 or like late 20
teens, and he just seems moregrounded now, like a little more
well-rounded, a little morelike you don't have to break
your back to do this, but justbe smart, work smarter, not
harder, kind of vibe, and that's.
I'm subscribing to that.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
And he was so validating to us because we're
in the business of social mediaand like obviously he talked a
lot about that and how it's suchlike a great time to be in that
space and how important it isto brands, so it was really
really cool to hear from him.
I also really loved hearingfrom the creative director of
Pinterest and she had such aunique point of view and like I

(04:45):
just loved what she and her teamare doing at Pinterest and yeah
, it was really good.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of Pinterest predicts and I feel
like they've done a really goodjob of like helping people
think ahead of time instead ofjust being reactive to
everything, and they're kind ofone of the inspirations for us
in the trend reports we'vestarted to produce even though
we think a little bitdifferently about it totally.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
And then we also heard a lot from the nfl, so the
nfl like the marketing team,and then they also brought some
players and their head of socialmedia, and their head of social
media and their agency partner.
So they brought like theiragency partner that does like
their super bowl commercials,which is 72, and sunny, which is
an agency I really look up to,and then they also had their

(05:30):
social creator agency.
Anyways, I went to every singlenfl talk that was offered
because I just like I'm excitedabout the space and it was
really really cool yeah, Ithought it was really sweet that
they brought a couple athleteslike diana Flores from the flag
football side of things.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
And then Brandon Marshall, who used to be an
awesome wide receiver and nowhe's.
It was cool to hear from himbecause he's really been an
advocate for players as mediaentities.
And he's kind of been the one ofthe big kind of tipping points
or difference makers to giveathletes a bit of a platform

(06:07):
outside of just their play onthe field.
Like he was one of the firstpeople to be on uh I think it
was an ESPN panel, um, I thinkit was called around the NFL or
something like that Um, and nowhe has his own company I am
athlete that represents a lot ofthese athletes to become
creators right and to work withbrands so he walked, so the

(06:28):
Kelsey brothers could runexactly respect

Speaker 1 (06:31):
respect that man yeah , it was really good and he was
an elite athlete.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
He was an elite wide receiver yeah, for sure, he was
around when I was just gettinginto fantasy football too.
I remember at the time he waslike one of the sought after
fantasy wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Now he's just an og it was cool what he was saying
about like his cleats, like hehelped start this, like movement
.
Yeah, my cause, my cleats.
But basically I guess there wasa game that he wanted to wear
these neon cleats and it was ata time where you couldn't really
do that, or you still can't.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I guess there's always been really heavy
restrictions in the NFL forwearing custom anything.
It's funny because you can wearlike watches and yeah, like
crazy jewelry you can'tcustomize any of your equipment
so sometimes players would wearcustom cleats and they'd get
fined for it, and he was one ofthe players that, instead of
just doing it as in a way forclout or to flex, he was
starting to do it attached tocauses, and I think the story

(07:25):
you're talking about was formental health awareness.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah.
So he wanted to wear this pairof like lime green cleats to a
game and they kept saying, likeyou can't.
You can't wear those cleats,you're not allowed to wear those
cleats.
If you wear those cleats, we'llfine, you, he's still planning
to wear those cleats.
And then I guess they likeknocked on his hotel door and
they're like we can't let you onthe field with those cleats.
And then he like he was likewell, then you tell the fans why
I'm not playing today.

(07:47):
And he like slammed the door onthem.
But then from there it likereally got him like he really
got determined and he went tothe NFL commissioner's office
like every day asking him tolike let the players do
something with, like raisingawareness for causes to care
about.
So, like, because he was sorelentless, the NFL commissioner
finally said, fine, like, we'llcreate a cause about this, like

(08:09):
do whatever and just get out ofmy office.
So now they have this like onegame a year or something where
they can like all these playerspick a different cause and they
like wear cleats based on thosecauses and raise awareness for
those causes and lots of moneyfor those causes.
So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, it's cool to be a change maker that way.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, I loved it.
It was a great conference.
It was also fun to just havequality time with our leads and
directors.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, I think one of my favorite sessions was around
Sonic Branding I think it waswith Song Trader, and then I
went to Inner Sanctum with them.
Inner Sanctum with them InnerSanctum is kind of like a
smaller like workshop sessionwith them and Massive Music and
we got to do this exercise.
Morgan, our producer, was theretoo.

(08:57):
We got to do this exercise wherethey basically gave us a
pretend brand and kind of a toneor style guide for it and then
gave us worksheets and played abunch of different tracks for us
and we got to kind of rank andshare notes about whether we
felt those tracks were on brandfor the type of um, like what
they were trying to accomplishwith that sound, whether they
were trying to contrast anelement of the brand or like

(09:20):
express comfort or things likethat.
So it was cool to just kind ofhave this like interactive
session where we got to actuallykind of pull back the curtain
and see part of the process andstart to pull out our own kind
of perceptions andunderstandings about what a
track or sound accomplishes froma branding standpoint.
And I I've been really excitedthe last couple of years to work

(09:41):
with our team to integrate thata little bit more, cause we do
so much around content and youcan get like royalty free music
or pick songs in app, but itjust doesn't do the same thing
as like a well produced orcomposed track or even sound
design, depending on what thetreatment is.
But yeah, I'm excited about it.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, it was super cool.
Speaking of sound, our team didanother very on-brand thing, I
think, for us.
We went and sang karaoke.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, Sonic branding for us is just karaoke.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, it's bad singing, which I'm very proud of
.
It was so fun.
We went for dinner to HelloSunshine and they have private
karaoke rooms, so we definitelyhad to indulge there and it was
great.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
If you could only sing one karaoke song over and
over again until you die, whichone would it be?
I can't pick one you have tojust right now, for the sake of
the audience.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Now for the class probably super based by nikki
minaj I knew it was gonna benikki minaj only because people
get really excited about merapping and I think it's like a
crowd pleaser.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I feel like Nicki is approachable on karaoke because
she's got like raps that arelearnable, yes, but also like
melodies that are likeachievable it's not like too
hard like sometimes we've done.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I've done like other rap songs and we're like no one
wants to hear me say those words.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
It's like a little too far so yeah, we don't need
to be trying like swiss beats orlike jadakiss or like crazy
rhymes like that.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, I've done like cardi, yeah, cardi B ones, and
that sometimes, like you know,in a workplace setting.
It makes people uncomfortable alittle bit.
So yeah, try to keep it PG.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
PG-13.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Crazy that we'd be calling nikki minaj pg totally
but compared to cardi b she canbe for sure yeah we should get
into the first big.
Thing yeah, let's do it youwant to do it or me um you do it
okay, instagram is downgradingcreators view video quality if

(11:44):
they're not driving enough views.
According to Adam Masseri,instagram is maximizing its data
storage potential andminimizing the cost of that
storage by degrading the qualityof videos posted by creators
that it doesn't bring enoughviews, he said we bias to higher
quality or more CPU intensiveencoding and more expensive

(12:06):
storage for bigger files forcreators who drive more views.
He also said that Instagramlowers the quality of older
videos whose view counts havedropped off.
If something isn't watched fora long time Because the vast
majority of views are at thebeginning, we will move to lower
quality video, he said.
There is, however, will move tolower quality video, he said.
There is, however, a path tohigh quality.

(12:26):
If an older video is watchedagain a lot, we will re-render
it to a higher quality video.
This has been met with a lot ofbacklash, of course, with some
people responding and sayingthat, from a creator's
perspective, spending time oncreating high quality content
just for it to be downgraded tolow resolution really sucks.
And and there was a socialmedia consultant, matt Navarro,
who we're big fans of.

(12:47):
He told the BBC that Masseri'sposts seemed somewhat contradict
Instagram's earlier messages orefforts to encourage new
creators.
So I think this is superinteresting because I think I
never zoomed out to think whatdoes Instagram pay for storage?
Like I kind of forget that allthis content like needs a server

(13:09):
, right, right, like it needslike things to like run it.
You just kind of consider, likedoesn't it sit in the cloud
somewhere?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, there would still be servers.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Right yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'm sure they pay an incredible amount yeah, but they
also make an incredible amount.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
But they also make an incredible amount of money
Right.
So I don't think we need to beempathetic towards Instagram
about their server costs.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
No, I'm not empathetic, but I guess I never
considered it.
I never considered like, oh,there has to be a way to decide,
or not?
Why can't they just giveeveryone the highest quality
content uploads, you know?
yeah but, um, it's.
It's hard for me becauseinstagram has, like always been
the platform that like really isproud of being a platform for

(13:58):
creators and to support creatorson the app.
Like it's never it's alwayspublicly said that it's for
creators it's never been forbusinesses.
Like.
As a business account, it'sactually really hard to get a
lot of traction and as an agencythat supports business accounts
, that's really frustrating.
But we've always known likeInstagram is going to create
cater towards creators, notother accounts.

(14:20):
So it's also discouraging tosee that, like, smaller brands
or smaller creators can't reallyget the same high quality of
content when they're competingbased on views yeah, I think it
makes me feel that all the stuffthat they've said about wanting
to give small creators more ofa platform is just virtue

(14:42):
signaling.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's just trying to keep those creators from leaving
to go to tiktok or otherplatforms.
It's not actually because theycare I think this shows that,
that everything that they do isstill for the big creators and
celebrities and entertainmentproperties when I say
entertainment properties I'mtalking about, like tv movies,
comedians, sports and athletesbasically.

(15:05):
And I think about the ones thatwould typically have more high
production content which wouldbe all of those, all of the
above.
Sports.
It's on the brand side.
It's not necessarily on thecreator side, but it's high
production content that drivesan incredible amount of
attention.
So I think those are still theproperties and the people and
entities that they clearlyprioritize attention.
Right, so I think those arestill the the properties and the
people and entities that theyclearly prioritize Cause I think

(15:27):
it makes sense to me if oldercontent gets compressed, because
yeah, we've all moved on.
Like these days.
You know, if something's morethan a week old, we're not
seeing it again.
It used to be 24 hours.
I think, now the way thealgorithm is.
You could still see somethingfrom last week in your algorithm
, but after that no one caresanymore.

(15:48):
Yeah so that makes sense to me,but what I think is frustrating
is the fact that it doesn'tserve creators proportionately
based on because of their size.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
So, like if a, for example, if a creator at our
level like say they have 2,500followers, they're posting reels
consistently and they'regetting a thousand views per
video, which is pretty good forsomeone with 2500 followers,
that's what is that?
How much of their?
What percentage is that?
40 percent of their audiencesize?

(16:20):
In video views.
But you compare that to a bigcreator with 250,000 followers
and they're posting reelsconsistently and getting 25,000
views.
That's only 10 percent of theiraudience size, but they're still
going to get prioritized overthe small creator, even though
the proportions are actuallybetter for the smaller creator,

(16:41):
which would signal bettercontent, more resonance from the
content from the small creator,but it's better from a volume
perspective from the big creator.
So it just goes to show thatbig creators are going to
continue to win um, regardlessof, like the percentages or
proportions.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Or how good their content is.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Because sometimes big creators can put out content
like it's going to get the viewsbecause they have a bigger
following yeah, which isfrustrating, like unlike.
Like TikTok, for example,there's so many small creators
have views or videos that go forlike hundreds and thousands of
views because their content'sjust good.
Like.
That's a platform for creatorswhere, like, anyone can really

(17:20):
go viral and like build anaudience, while on Instagram
it's just like so hard to dothat yeah, tiktok seems like the
great equalizer right now.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Truly anybody in their pet dog could go viral
tomorrow for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
And that's you know the danger of it too, because so
much misinformation can getspread on TikTok, because it can
just all go viral yeah, I thinkit also.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
It kind of almost brings me back to like I don't
know years ago.
I feel like a lot of peoplewould talk about like Instagram
engagement pods where they'dlike get together with their
friends and they'd have a groupchat and then whenever one of
them posted, they'd let thegroup chat know and everyone
would go engage with it.
And I feel like we kind of havethat a little bit organically
with Arcade because we have likeour team of people that work

(18:02):
here and we're all kind ofpaying attention to our
Instagram and TikTok so whensomething new goes live we're
all kind of like jumping on itorganically.
But I'm sure that gives someboost to views and engagement
and just like Instagram'sranking of how important that
content is which is helpful.
So I think maybe that would be apiece of advice for people.
To try and test again is createa little engagement pod with

(18:24):
you and your little creatorfriends, or you and your sports
enthusiasts or whatever it is,and and just help each other get
a little bit more of thatalgorithm favor, but also that
video production quality.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I know Cause like there's a lot of work that goes
into these videos and I think Ithink in this ranking system, we
instagram should be looking atthe, how old the content is,
like you said, but also notnecessarily the size of your
audience, but how frequently youpost.
Because, like, there are peopleout there who are creators and

(18:58):
they're actively working onmaking more content and they're
posting more frequently.
And then there's people outthere who are just like they're
here for the and they're postingmore frequently.
And then there's people outthere who are just like they're
here for the vibes, they're justwatching content.
It's like or like family members, like they're not trying to be
creators, they're like poststuff here and there but like
quality of video doesn't reallymatter for them or, you know,

(19:20):
like it doesn't like weigh thesame.
So I feel like they shouldcount like factor that in, and
less on like views and more onlike how often are you using a
platform?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, it also, I think, going back to the fact
that it's favoring big creatorsand entertainment and
celebrities.
It just shows their truepriority, which they have said
before, and TikTok says the samething, which they want to kind
of replace television yeah, Imean everyone who doesn't yeah
so they're more.

(19:51):
They want better production forthe more entertaining and more
like a-list figures and theywant longer attention for those
people and everyone else is justkind of like participants and
sometimes they'll go viral justto keep them on the platform.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
One thing I think is interesting to think about is
that it may just inevitablydrive more dissonance between
those big types of creators andtheir high production and the
rest of us and our like lo-fi,ugc style content, which, if
there's still a lot of usproducing that kind of content,
I think there will always beattention and desire for that

(20:28):
kind of content too, because,like you kind of notice and
engage more with stuff you'remore accustomed to seeing.
I think that's why lo-fi hasperformed well for so long is
because it blends in.
That's why brands go for thatUGC style content a lot, because
that's what people are used toseeing and so they want to see
it from brands, for it to feellike part of the conversation,

(20:51):
and I think that we're justgoing to see more and more of
that from small creators.
It's like, okay, if my highproduction content is just going
to get compressed anyway, I mayas well just shoot this on my
iPhone in my room with naturallighting, rather than worrying
about the set.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, and iPhones today the quality is pretty good
, they're pretty dang good.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, and vlogs are going, are like more and more
going in that direction.
You would know this better thanme, but I think, just from like
watching from the sidelines,it's like edit it as little as
possible, like produce it aslittle as possible in terms of
like creating sets andenvironments, and lighting and
everything you know it's moreabout creating a storyline than
it is about production level.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, lesson here is go to YouTube.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, true, we were trying to spend more time on
YouTube.
We like YouTube.
It seems a little bit morereasonable around here.
The last thing I'll say aboutthis that I was thinking about,
because I I'm just been tryingto think about practical
takeaways, so thinking about thefact that video gets lower
quality and more compressed themore it sits, the thing that

(21:55):
comes to mind for me isInstagram highlights.
Because I think a lot of people,especially brands, will create
Instagram highlights early,because we talk a lot about how
your Instagram profile shouldkind of feel like your website.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah should answer all the questions.
You shouldn't have to leaveInstagram to get the information
they want about you site.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, like you should answer all the questions.
People shouldn't have to leaveInstagram to get the information
they want about you.
So you create highlights aboutyou and about your services and
you show some case studies orsome examples and you show some
trips and times like excitingthings, like the conference we
just went to, or like employeeengagement, whatever it might be
but that can end up justsitting there for a couple of
years because you put a lot oftime into creating it and you
don't want to recreate it overand over again but this might

(22:34):
just be a signal that we need torecreate that content a little
bit more frequently, yeah, sothat it's not getting we do.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, I think that's one of the first things we
always do with the new client islike reset all their instagram
highlights yeah, but maybe it'san annual thing instead of uh
yeah, I think they do likepretty often yeah.
Yeah, Mel and the team.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Forget me then.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Shout out to the social team, who's always on top
of those highlights, but alsoour internal, like engagement
bots.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Our engagement pod.
No one's bots around here,Sorry not bots.
Not bots All real humans.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Pods.
I feel like our team does sucha good job at hyping up our
TikToks, so if you are on TikTok, you should go check out
Arcade's TikTok.
I'm just like so proud of theteam and all the work that
they're putting into thataccount.
It's really fun to watch it.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, it's been cool.
It's actually been growing too,which it's hard to grow a brand
account these days, yeahespecially our Halloween TikTok,
which, I must say, was reallygood.
Was it?
Did it get good engagement?
Yeah Well, I mean, it was goodfrom like an enjoyment
standpoint, yeah, which is good.
Did it perform well?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I mean it's doing fine.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, it's not amazing Cool, but yeah, it could
use some love.
I'm not a big Halloween stan,so I know it's neither here nor
there.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Speaking of TikTok, I've been watching so much New
York City Marathon content.
I can't stop crying, Like I hadto stop myself from watching it
before this recording.
But it's all so good and soemotional.
There's so many videos ofpeople seeing their loved ones
cheering for them as they'rerunning and stopping and hugging

(24:08):
them.
There was this teacher who wasrunning and his whole class
showed up like kids and theirparents.
I can't even talk about it, I'mgoing to start crying, but it's
really, really cute.
And then there's another.
Like all the signs, like NewYork City Marathon signs are so
amazing.
This year they were like 10 outof 10.

(24:28):
Like I feel like I just need toexperience the New York city
marathon.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Maybe you do.
I still remember when you ranyour half marathon in Vancouver.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
That's nice.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That was when we were dating and I just that was like
a Canon event for you.
That was it was.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I mean running in general is so hard Like
literally running around theblock is hard but running a
marathon is so, so hard.
So I just have so much respectfor people who do it and I think
this year might be the yearthat I do another half marathon.
I can't run a full marathon yet.
I'm too scared.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
You can definitely run a half marathon.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, I think I want to do a half marathon.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
The furthest I've ran since high school was a 5K, and
that was one time just becauseI woke up one day and I had to
prove to myself that I could doit.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
But that's the crazy thing, is you just woke up one
day and did it?
Imagine what you could do ifyou trained it?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
wasn't like off the couch though.
I was doing like Peloton ridesand stuff like that, so it
wasn't like the craziest thingto be able to do a 5K, but I was
sore for three or four daysafter that, used muscles I
didn't know existed.
But I don't think I could do ahalf, let alone a full, marathon
.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I think if you wanted to, you could.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Okay, let me correct myself.
I don't want to do a half or afull marathon.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I've never wanted to do a full marathon because I've
been.
Actually, I'm really scared ofhaving to go to the bathroom
during a marathon.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's the thing that's going to keep you.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
That to the bathroom during a marathon and also
that's the thing that's going tokeep you that kind of freaks me
out.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I feel like you've got to be sweating enough that
you're not going to need to pee.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
No, lots of people have to pee during a full
marathon, just pee yourself in,that's like four hours.
Pee yourself in public, it'sall the same.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
No, it's not.
You're sweating, you're peeing,you're stop, that's.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
You're sneezing like no, but what if you have to do
the other thing?
Like in the middle of amarathon.
Yeah, exactly and lots ofpeople do apparently yeah, so
that's why like what happens.
Well, they have porta pottiesall over it, like all over the
like marathon route, because youhave, like your body is still

(26:29):
you know I'd be stopping atporta potties just for a break.
Lots of people do too, andthere's like people who like
haven't you ever seen a marathon?
Or like the marathon content.
Like people.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, of course I've seen content, but I don't see
porta potties.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, yeah, there's tons of porta potties and they
like have long lineups.
That's the other thing.
So if you need to go, you cango potty.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Wait, are athletes sharing porta potties with, just
like fans and observers?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, no, no, it's just for the runners.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, porta potties aside, you mentioned some good
signs.
What are some of the highlights?
Do you remember?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, there's so many .
One I saw said I also loveattention or run if you think
I'm hot In the club.
We're all fam All this for alittle attention.
You're running better than thegovernment.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
That is timely content, right there.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
There's a sign that said worst parade ever.
Slow down, I can't tell ifyou're cute.
There's a sign that saidtherapy was also an option.
I bet you're second guessingthis year's resolution that's
why you don't do New Year'sresolutions looking for a
boyfriend.
Run like your mom, just usedyour full name.

(27:42):
Go random stranger.
Run like a stallion.
Hurry up so we can drink somany good ones.
And there's also I saw a TikTokof this, like group of friends
they made.
They chose a generic name andthey chose John and they made a
sign and they're like yeah, john, and so they in the app.

(28:06):
Like the New York city marathonapp, you can like find the
runners you're training for andsee where in real time they are.
So you can like find therunners you're cheering for and
see where in real time they are.
So you can go and meet them,like in the marathon route, and
they would like pick a spot andthen just see when the next
Johns are coming and they'd likecheer for Johns.
And it's like a video of allthese guys named John being like
wow, thank you.
Like they're just so touchedthat people are there cheering

(28:27):
for them.
It's so funny.
Sucks to have a niche name on,like my fun day.
Yeah, no, mike's common.
Oh yeah, as common as sorry.
Yeah, niche name for sure likethey would never pick like
henrietta yeah or mitzi truealthough I've we've seen a few
mitzis where around.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
You've met a couple there's been restaurants named
Mitzi.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Oh yeah, A restaurant named Mitzi.
That wasn't spelled the same.
I've only met one Mitzi in mylife.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Quite the reaction.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I'm actually possessive of my name.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I know, should we get on to the next thing?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, well, before we go on, I just want to just talk
about my favorite thing on theInternet right now on TikTok,
please.
This is an Internet podcast, tojust talk about my favorite
thing on the internet right nowon TikTok.
This is an internet podcast.
It's Domingo Domingo, the SNLskit, and I just think it's
amazing.
It's.
I can't stop watching it.
I think about the song in myhead over and over and over
again.
I've showed it to you I don'tthink you're that excited, but

(29:26):
it's when Ariana Grande washosting SNL and she did this
like bridesmaid skit and it waslike they did like a pretend
song to like espresso, likeSabrina Carpenter's song, and
then they talked about this guythat they, like the bride, hooks
up with.
And then he shows up and he'slike, hey, I can't, I can't do
it.
Yeah, it's so funny, I justcan't stop watching it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, it was good content.
I just felt concerned forAriana.
Like she, she looks unwell.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I hate to say it.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Hate to say it I hope she has good friends.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Ariana, if you're watching this, we're here for
you.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I think she's okay.
I think she's just has stuff Ina phase, but Chapel Roan
performed on SNL this week.
I'm in like a I think maybeit's just my algorithm right now
, but I have.
I get so much SNL content on myfor you page and I'm really
enjoying what I'm seeing.
I am not.
I used to actually watch a lotof SNL, but I haven't in a long

(30:27):
time.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
But the skits the skits that I'm seeing have been
really funny.
I wonder if how many peopleactually watched full like snl
show?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
probably not as many people consume it this way, like
I think so yeah, and it'spreferred to be honest, because
then I can just go and see, likewhat has the most views and the
good stuff you know rises tothe top I wouldn't mind watching
a few just to get more familiarwith some of like the new
up-and-coming like comedictalent yeah, that guy, I think
his name's like MarceloHernandez, I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
But he also sent me another skit that it was like a
was it the same dude?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
yeah, so, um, it was the weekend update, which has
always been one of my favorite,like staple skits or sketches
that they do, and they hadinterviewed the most unlikely
couple and he was there with hisgirlfriend, that one was funny.
And he was so crazy outgoingand his girlfriend was really
meek quiet.
It was just so good.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Whoever she is, she played that really well, yeah, I
loved it.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Okay, we can move on.
Let's get on to thing two.
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Apple is slowing down production of the Apple Vision
Pro for now.
A new report from theinformation cites multiple
people involved in making partsfor Apple's Vision Pro headset
say that production plans havebeen scaled back in recent
months.
This follows a Tim Cookinterview published recently by
Wall Street Journal where hesaid obviously I'd like to sell
more, but acknowledged that at$3,500, it's not a mass market

(31:55):
product.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
What a funny quote.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Obviously, I'd like to sell more.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Obviously, I'd like to sell more.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
So Apple is shifting its strategy to focus on making
a cheaper headset which couldship as soon as next year, tim
Cook told Wall Street Journal.
Right now it's an early adopterproduct People who want to have
tomorrow's technology today.
That's who it's for, but plentyof early adopters are probably
waiting around for something abit cheaper to land on more
shelves.
That's kind of where I'msitting.

(32:20):
I'd like to consider myself anearly adopter to an extent, but
$3,500 USD for something that'sstill experimental to me just
wasn't worth it.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, I would not consider myself an early adopter
, nor do I strive to be like I'mokay with waiting for the
second wave.
Like I have not self identifiedmyself as, like a VR goggle
wearing person.
It's just not.
Not for me.
It's not compatible with makeup, to be honest, which is like a

(32:50):
huge barrier for me To that tothat point.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I think it needs to be glasses.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
We talked about this a few episodes ago because of
what meta and snapchat have beenworking on, but I think it's
got to be lightweight glasseslike something that's
comfortable to wear, thatdoesn't completely remove you
from your surroundings, and wecan still interact while both
having glasses on but even that,like I don't, I just feel like
it's too, like the novelty isnot exciting to me, like I did

(33:15):
get to try the Apple Vision ProsShout out to Gary who lent me
them and who also made me customlike makeup, like things.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Liner.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Like liners for it which was really sweet, yeah, he
just like cut it out in theshape of the Apple Vision Pros
so I could wear them, um, but itwas so heavy.
It was very cool, but it was soheavy and it's like I
appreciate that the technologyexists and it could be really
cool, but it doesn't seem likesomething I would use in my
everyday life.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, it's heavy.
Yeah, you gotta be a thick neckdaddy.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Last thing I want is a thick neck, if you know you
know.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, daddy.
Last thing I want is a thick,if you know you know, yeah, I.
Uh, I think what tim's sayingmakes sense.
Like it's an early adopter thing, it was meant to be something
that begins the development of anew market, and it's cool to
know that that's what it was,and now they're also moving
quickly onto something that'snext, that will come soon,
that's more mass market, moreapproachable from a price point
standpoint, and you're going tosee a lot more people start to

(34:14):
have those devices, maybe meincluded oh one thing that I was
chatting with gary speaking ofthe guy I was chatting with him
about this just to get his take,because he's like our apple
insider at arcade and one thingthat he pointed out was that
while there hasn't been a lot oftraction yet on the consumer
market, he's heard cases whereit's been used in more of a

(34:37):
commercial setting, likesurgeons using it to assist with
surgery.
And if you get into more of acommercial setting like that, or
medical, like health care, forexample, suddenly that price
point is so small compared toother equipment that they're
getting for like an operatingtable or like a surgeon's room
or even a doctor's office.
So if you start to integrate VRwith AI and other elements and

(35:00):
it comes at a $5,000 Canadian,$3,500 USD price point, there's
a potential market for that.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, but I just don't see like why Apple would
be in that business Like they'refor the everyday consumer.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
They're in the business of money For sure, and
tech that changes lives.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
For sure, but like I don't disagree with that, but
they're also like their mainconsumer is everyday people.
Like everyone in the world hasan iPhone.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Right, so why would they make specialty grade?
But think of business.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
But even those Apple business accounts is to buy the
same products that everyone elseis buying.
You know they don't makespecialty products, so I can
definitely see the value in that, but I just don't see why Apple
would be dabbling in that.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, the reason, it's just the reason to keep
that model, keep a high pricepoint model for early adopters,
but also for people where theprice point doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Right, yeah, maybe, maybe.
Point model for early adoptersbut also for people where the
price point doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
right, yeah, maybe maybe it's pretty heavy imagine
being in an operating room andlike doing heart surgery and it
falls yeah like it's hard tokeep up or like starts to plug
your nose because it's just likeresting on the bridge a little
too heavy if it just like startsto like lean slightly off or
your face starts to get a littlesweaty.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Totally, which.
I'm sure those surgeons likethat.
Needs a built-in fan or likesweat wicking material, or like
a system that's just responsiblefor keeping it in place.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Wow, important task Should we get into thing.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
three Well before I moved on.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I was trying to move so quick from that one.
What do you?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
got.
Well, I was gonna say like Ipersonally don't see myself
being one of those like VRgoggle people but I knew there
was a but coming.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
do want.
I've been working on myChristmas list and I think I
want a red light mask don't youhave one?
No, I, I had one, a cheapversion, that broke why'd it
break?
Because it's a cheap version.
But I want like a good one,like a medical grade red light
mask, that's.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
That's my big thing so where do you get a medical
grade one?
Not from amazon, they're justfor end users.
No, apple is for the everydayconsumer.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
So medical grade one Not from Apple because they're
just for end users.
No, Apple is for the everydayconsumer.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
So medical grade isn't for the everyday consumer,
so you probably don't need amedical grade one.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
No, I definitely don't need a medical grade one.
It's like the layer just beforemedical grade.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
If I'm honest, do.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I dare ask what else is on your wishlist other than
red light masks?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Just tons of little trinkets here and there.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Tons.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Tons, Just like little actually.
I have a lot of things for thekitchen You'd be pleased to know
.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, you're on your kitchen wave, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, I actually want like a stop trad wife, I want a
stand up mixer.
I really resisted.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Where is that going to go?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I knew you would say that.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh my goodness, the amount of gear we have on our
counter already.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I know.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
We're also about to get a big new cutting board.
It's going to take up half thecounter.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
But the cutting board is part of the counter, Like.
I think that'll fit perfectlythere.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
So is the stand-up mixer going to go on top of the
cutting?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
board.
I don't know.
We're going to have to find aspot.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
This is very.
These are important questionswe need to ask before we make
the purchase.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
But it reminded me of .
We are working on a scan clubgift guide which includes a few
other trending not trendinggifts, but things that we think
could relate to trends coming up, like, example, pistachio,
which I think we talked about onthis show before.
Pistachios on the rise.
The price of pistachios isgoing up.
Olive oil is also on the rise.
These are like gifts that youcan like get for people who look
for something that maybe noteveryone else is getting, not an
average type of person to buyfor.
So look out for that.
It's called Scan Club.

(38:53):
You can subscribe to thenewsletter and get it straight
to your inbox.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Maybe we need to do a gift guide Mitzi's version.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's like Mitzi wants a cow.
She wants a standup mixer.
Yes, a cow, standup mixer.
She wants a red light face maskmedical grade.
No, just the layer right belowit.
Right, if there's 20 layers,it's layer 19.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, scan Club has been popping this year and I'm
very excited to finish off theyear with the gift guide and
then start next year with thetrend report.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
The trend report.
Guys, you got lots of goodcontent to look forward to Thank
you, Morgan.
For sure, let's move on to thelast big thing All right.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Thing three Morgan Stanley is letting clients
invest in sports leagues.
The financial services companyrecently rolled out the
parametric custom core sportsleagues strategy portfolio of
holdings.
That you can't say five timesfast.
It's made up of publicly tradedcompanies that sponsor specific
sports properties.
The idea of the sports sponsorportfolio came about when a
Morgan Stanley client who worksfor a league asked if the
company could put together acustom portfolio of sponsors of

(39:57):
the league for him to invest in.
The Morgan Stanley teaminitially viewed the opportunity
as a way to allow athletes andteam and league employees to
financially support theproperties they're affiliated
with without investing directly.
Support the properties they'reaffiliated with without
investing directly, mostly dueto some restrictions in the
space.
Like, the NBA's most recentcollective bargaining agreement
allows the Players Associationto invest in NBA teams on behalf

(40:21):
of all NBA players throughselect private investment funds,
and it also allows players toinvest in WNBA teams, but some
leagues, like the NFL and NHL,prohibit active players from
investing in franchises.
Plus, the sports portfolio alsoallows non-athlete investors
like us to get involved beyondjust fandom, which I think is

(40:42):
the most exciting element ofthis, probably because I'm not
on a team.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Wait, you got to get into the minimum investment
amount.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Sure, I'll share a bit more here.
The company's aiming to targetsports-centric clients and
potentially bring in new ones,all while raising Morgan
Stanley's profile in the sportsspace.
Who doesn't want to raise theirprofile in the sports space
right now?
That being said, the offeringisn't for every investor.
Clients of Morgan StanleyFinancial Advisors must meet an
investment minimum of $250,000in order to be eligible, so this

(41:14):
sounds like a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Right, because it is.
It is a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
But over the span of a typical middle class person's
career, investing $250,000compounding isn't that crazy
Like that's achievable and Ithink, to put it into
perspective before somethinglike this, when you think of
team ownership or leagueownership, that's like for

(41:39):
hundreds of millionaires, if notbillionaires.
That's for the Mark Cubans ofthe world and the Bezos of the
world and the Elon Musks of theworld or the Jay-Z's and
Beyonce's of the world, but notfor us you know so 250 000
compared to that level of networth is much more approachable
for your typical middle class orentrepreneur creator I actually

(42:02):
thought it was much lower, like, I mean, it's lower than I
expected.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I should say that, uh , it's still high, but lower
than expected.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I'm sure that minimum minimum doesn't get you much,
but it's still a piece of thepie I mean, that's a decent
amount of money, so if you'reinvesting at that level, I think
you can decide how much of that.
That uh portfolio goes towardssports teams and leagues.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah and you can choose from the portfolios of
sponsors of the NBA, wnba, nfl,nwsl, mls, mlb, lpga, pga, nhl,
usa Open Tennis, f1, nascar andcollege basketball, according to
Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
So you got all the options.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Literally all of them .

Speaker 2 (42:46):
If you had to pick one of those, I was just going
to ask you that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
In terms of a league or a sport.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
And then pick a team.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
It depends Like.
out of personal interest, Idefinitely want to be in on the
NFL but, I, think as a brandit's like very far along the
development curve, you know, andthere's tons of brand deals.
Obviously it's growing in valueyear over year, so there's
still investment potential there.
But if you're really lookingfor a bigger payout, I feel like

(43:16):
you want to be in somethingthat's more early in the curve,
which.
A few episodes ago we talkedabout F1 and some of their
recent dealings and I feel like,even though F1 is not a new
sport, it's newer to like massmarket outside of Europe because
of the Netflix show but alsojust compounding attention over

(43:38):
the last couple yearsspecifically yeah, so and also
the fact that it's in Vegas nowtoo, in North America.
So I think I would probably tryto think about that.
If I could do both, I wouldlove to think about getting in
on the NFL and probably the LasVegas Raiders.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Really, why Las Vegas ?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Because they're one of the newer NFL teams.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Does it have an all women's ownership group?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I think they have a woman president or CEO.
Right and she's a woman ofcolor as well which is really
cool, but also it's newer.
The stadium's newer.
It's a newer market in Vegas.
And then I'd also love to getinto F1 and potentially
specifically F1 in Vegas.
I'm not personally a big fan ofLas Vegas as a standalone place
to go, although they have goodfood and you can have a good

(44:24):
time, but I think I could becomea fan if, like I, had a vested
interest in a football team andF1 and.
I'd benefit both from like mypersonal interest and the
investment opportunity and beingearlier in the curve.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
If I had to pick a league, I would probably pick a
women's league, just because Iknow that it's just getting a
lot more lucrative, it's likeyeah, early, it's not
established yet, there's stilllike lots to go in terms of like
creating teams, like additionalteams that could bring in more
value to the league.
So I would probably do WNBA.
Because there's been so muchexcitement around college

(45:03):
women's basketball, thatnaturally feeds into the value
of women's professionalbasketball.
Um, I also like I don't think Iwould invest in like an
individual sport league likeWimbledon or US Open or whatever
.
Yeah, tennis, um or F1 not thatI have anything against f1, I
just feel like team sportsthere's just a bit more like um

(45:27):
potential around team and likeso many more players.
Like I just feel like there'smore to build from um.
I don't have no idea what sportor what actual team in the WNBA
I would want to invest in.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Probably whichever team Caitlin Clark is on.
Yeah sure, indiana.
But what if it's?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
yeah, what if it's like Indiana, Like that's the
last place?
I'd no offense.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah, maybe that's too short-sighted.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, so just like as a league WNBA.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Is there a Vegas team ?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Let's just go all in on our Vegas shares.
I'm not that interested inVegas.
If I were to invest in anotherleague, I would invest in the
upcoming Flag Football League,which is apparently coming out
next year.
So that would be reallyinteresting.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Well, yeah, and flag football might even be in the
Olympics, or it's going to be,it is going to be and I think
that's the future of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
personally, those are my personal opinions.
I know you disagree with thatand that's fine.
We don't have to open that kindof worms today.
But I think flag football isgoing to be a really hot,
up-and-coming sports.
Only because there's so manykids going into flag football
and I think when you see so muchmovement in junior sport it can
kind of show you where futureexcitement around other sports

(46:39):
or professional sports is goingto go.
So I think flag football wouldbe a great place to invest in.
In terms of a team, I'd have tolike selfishly just pick a
random team.
Like I think it'd be fun tolike invest in Miami Heat.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Because it's like, it's flashy, it's in Miami or
the Dolphins, like that'd be fun.
Miami yeah, why not?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Miami's, Florida's good Cause they don't have any
tax either.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Loved it Love to see it.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
We're going to Florida.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, see in Florida.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I changed my mind.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Um, which reminds me of like I.
I know I've talked about whoI'm cheering for in the NFL and
again it's, it's everyone, butright now, currently my favorite
team, I think, is the Detroitlions.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Naturally, they're the best team in the league.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Oh really, yeah, I thought I was being so original
and cheering for an underdog.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Bandwagon girly over here.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
That is so classic me .
I am such a bandwagoner.
I'm not a first wave person, no, I'm just like obsessed with
everything about Dan Campbell,like the head coach.
That's his name, right.
Yep or is it Will Ferrell?
Literally?
Will Ferrell could have playedhim in another life.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
If he committed to the role he could do it.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, the Lionsare fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
It's kind of fun because I as a kid lived in
Michigan.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Oh wait, detroit and Michigan.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Connection for me back to Detroit.
Um, I never went to a Lionsgame, but I definitely went to
some Pistons games at the Palace.
Malice at the Palace.
I wasn't at Malice at thePalace, but I was at the at the
venue for sure.
Yeah, but yeah they're.
They've got their team withhistory and they've had a.
They've struggled for a longtime and they're just finally
starting to have their moment.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
They used to be one of the worst teams in the league
, right, but it was just likelast year.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
For a long time they used to be like the Jets.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Can't get into the Jets right now.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
That was Mitzi's favorite team a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
A few weeks ago.
I just can't.
I'm so over Aaron Rodgers.
He needs to go.
Okay, over aaron rogers.
Yeah, he needs to go.
Um, okay, what I love about thedetroit lions the team that I
love, my favorite team, rightnow that I forgot their name, um
is that they've got heart anddan campbell.
Like I saw a video.
This is what changed the gamefor me.

(48:54):
I was just easily influenced oninstagram, but there was this
video.
They do this, like most teamsdo this.
When they win the game, theyhave the game ball and they
present it to a player of thegame whatever.
It's really sweet, and theypresented it to the quarterback.
What's his name?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Jared Goff.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Jared Goff, isn't he like really highly well
compensated?
Yep, yeah, so they presentedthe coach, dan Campbell
presented it to the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Jared Goff.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Jared Goff, and then he presented it back to Dan
Campbell.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
And he was like no, you are the player of the game.
No reverse card on him.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
And everyone was cheering for him and you could
see Dan Campbell was likevisibly like emotional, Like so
touched that they would honorhim with the game ball.
And the cool thing is DanCampbell used to play in the NFL
, so he's like former playerturned coach and you can just I
watched Hard Knocks when theydid the season on his team and

(49:50):
you can tell like in the game helike wants to go in there, Like
he wants to like.
Let me try.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Even in practice he's like down doing pushups with
the boys and slapping their bums.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
So he's like such a as what they like.
I feel like they say he's likea player's coach.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
And I love to see it.
He's also just like a wholesomefamily man.
His wife posted this photo ofhim at date night and he was
like just classic, like buttonup, like nice hair, like cut out
on a date with his wife beforethe game.
It was just so sweet.
It went viral because it waslike so wholesome, like such dad

(50:25):
vibes and you just love to seelike a good dad win.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, it's true, he's a good man.
He seems like it.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
He's a good man.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, from what we can tell, health check on my
favorite team.
While we're on the topic, theColts benched their highly
drafted, their high draft pickquarterback.
He's 22 years old AnthonyRichardson.
They decided to bench him,which I think was the wrong
decision, just because they'vebeen winning and losing, like I

(50:50):
think they were four and fourwhen they benched him, but they
felt like their old veteranquarterback, joe Flacco, gave
them the best chance to win andthen Joe Flacco went out and
they lost a pretty rough gamethis weekend after the fact.
So I don't know.
I'm pretty disappointed in that.
I was excited about AnthonyRichardson.
I think they didn't give him afair chance classic upper
management yeah, I think it wasa classic ownership decision and

(51:13):
not a coach's decision and theColts owner, Jim Irsay, is just
a curveball loose cannon, maybeon drugs.
So yeah he continues to ruinthings for us.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah, so it's hard.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
We've won some games, we've lost some games, but it's
just going to be anothermediocre season.
And who knows what's going tohappen with what was supposed to
be our franchise quarterbackit's too bad.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
That's why you have to be like me and just pick a
team that's hot in the day.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
If I was, to switch my allegiance right now to a
different team.
I'm not going to, because I amnot a bandwagon jumper.
If I was to pick a new team, itwould be the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I heard they had a good game.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I feel like they lost .

Speaker 1 (51:58):
They lost to Detroit this week.
I feel like they lost.
They lost to Detroit.
Oh, this week Right.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
They played a decent game, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Isn't that where Robert Saleh is Saleh?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Rumor has it that he's there as like an advisor.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Oh, he's not officially there.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
I haven't seen anything official, Well good
thing is football, you get awhole other week.
Yeah, the only thing I'm notsure about for you with the
Lions is I don't know what Ithink about their merch.
For you Like the Lion logo.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
That's one thing I like about.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Green Bay.
Is that's like vintage, or Iknow you also like the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
I love the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
That's one thing I like about the Steelers for you
is like if you go and thriftsome Steelers gear or get a
sweater or a hat like dealer'sgear or which I have get a
sweater or a hat like that'sthat looks.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, I do like the sealers for merch reasons, for
sure, and also they have aplayer's coach, mike Tomlin love
him.
What a guy um, also, before wemove on from football stuff, did
you see that Jason Kelseysmashed that kid's phone?
Yeah, I loved, loved it.
Jason Kelsey is such like anhonorable man.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, I mean I think I agree that he was in the right
for standing up to the kid andlike standing up for his brother
, but I think both parties hadsome pretty like unsavory things
.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Really, I don't know if you can fully vouch for it.
No, I was fine with it.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
I approve.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
You approve of the Kelsey bros.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I love.
Jason Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Jump in the YouTube comments.
Let us know what you thinkabout Jason and Travis, kelsey
and T-Swift.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
And Kylie Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
And the Detroit Lions .

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Kylie Kelsey is such a queen Cause she will cheer for
Travis Kelsey Like go to thegames.
Kylie Kelsey is such a queenBecause she will cheer for
Travis Kelsey Like go to thegames, but she will not wear
Kansas City merch.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Because she's a die hard Phillies fan.
Eagles fan.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Sorry, yeah, philly, like she, I feel like
Philadelphia, just like lovesher.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Yeah, she's like, she bleeds green, she bleeds green.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
One thing about me I do not bleed.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
No, you're a bandwagon jumper.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I could not Flavor of the week for Mitzi.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
when it comes to sports, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Hey, yeah, at least I'm in it as long as you're
riding the wave.
I'm riding the wave Just havingfun.
You're here with me having fun.
I'm just here for the vibes.
I just want everyone to have agood time truly.

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Thank you for being here today, for the vibes having
fun with us riding the wave,jumping on the bandwagon.
We got there.
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(54:40):
Any last words.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
See you next week.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
That was way too gentle, that time.
Yeah, that was nice it wasalmost like healing gong vibes.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, that was like spa vibes, the end of a moment.
Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
I think I was like 80% better from this weekend and
now that gone, just like thevibrations took you to 20%.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah, I'm there now.
I think it took me 2% take itall the way.