We Listen & We Don’t Judge (E13)

This week, we’re celebrating 500 subscribers on YouTube (thank you!). Mike and Mitzi step into the magical world of Harry Potter, for the first time, and we break down Instagram's new “Trial Reels” feature. Plus we share our thoughts on the Golden Globe 2025 Nominations and explore the viral TikTok trend “We Listen and We Don’t Judge” that puts relationships to the test. 

More from us:

• Mitzi Payne @mmmitzi
• Mike Payne @mmmiiike

Timestamps: 

• 04:00 – We hit 500 subscribers on Youtube! Thank you for listening!
• 05:00  – Mike and Mitzi experience Harry Potter for the first time. 
• 12:20 – Check out the Easy Reads podcast and join the community!
• 13:00 – Big Thing 1: Instagram introduces ‘Trial Reels’ to test content with non-followers. Should you try this? 
• 19:55 – A trip down memory lane: Mike was a hipster and an emo?
• 22:00 – Mitzi wants to start a reality TV show—but we need a villain. 
• 24:50 – Who would win in a fight at Arcade? (HR did NOT approve this question).
• 27:20 – Big Thing 2: Golden Globe 2025 Nominations are out and we’ve got opinions.
• 40:58 – Big Thing 3: TikTok’s ‘We Listen and We Don’t Judge’ trend, explained - Relationships are falling apart while others get stronger.

Show notes:

• The SCAN 👀 CLUB Gift Guide: https://scanclub.substack.com/p/gift-guide-what-people-want-for-the 
• The SCAN 👀 CLUB 2024 Trend Report: https://scanclub.substack.com/p/what-digital-audiences-want-in-2024 

Big Things with Mitzi (@mmmitzi) and Mike (@mmmiiike).

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Production by Morgan Berna, editing by Oliver Banyard.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, all righty , shall we let's do it.
Cheers to the last thatquestion.
Anyways, welcome to Big Things.
I'm Mitzi.
This is Mike.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is our show where we talk about the big
things we're watching inmarketing, social media, pop
culture and sports, and we alsotalk about the things that we're
seeing that could influence thefuture of digital marketing.
You can catch the show everyweek on YouTube or wherever you
get your podcasts and, of course, check us out on Instagram and
TikTok for all the in-betweenupdates.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I just got to say we're the Gore-Tex gang today.
Cute, it's winter, it's almostChristmas.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
You're finally matching with me.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
We've been doing the hard pitch for people to embrace
Alberta and move here and gettheir Gore-Tex and their
down-filled jackets, and we'repracticing what we preach For
sure.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
And I am doing this thanks to you.
You got me these shoes.
Yeah, this is my favoritepurchase of 2023.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We need to get you another color for 2025.
Yeah, I would love to.
I just watched a clip onInstagram of George Costanza in
Seinfeld showing up at Jerry'sapartment with his Gore-Tex
downfield jacket.
I feel like we need to share it.
On big things.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, you should, that is so you coded.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, it was like puffier than puff.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Who do you relate most to from Seinfeld, jerry,
yeah, you are.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Jerry, oh, I thought thought you're gonna argue with
me on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
no, you are jerry for sure.
He's kind of like intense aboutcertain things in his home and
like oh, I see, not because he'slike good looking or like witty
you're witty and good lookingfor sure about because I'm
particular, I'm like Jerry.
Yeah, and he always has likehis home very neat and tidy.

(01:48):
That's a compliment.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
True, I do identify with him, but I feel like the
person he reminds me of the mostis Drew from our team.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh yes, Drew is Jerry .

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Drew equals Jerry.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't know if he'd like us saying that.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, I think he'd love it because it's his favorite
show.
Yeah, I think Drew is LarryDavid.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, Drew chose not to be in the office today, so he
can't defend himself.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's true, if you can't catch the Drift, it's
going to be a very light andeasy breezy show.
We've got no deep stories foryou.
Whoa stories for you.
So we got we still got somegood stuff.
Oh no, yeah, this is very likeworth your while, worth your
time.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's just like it's not going to be that deep so
you're welcome, it's like theend of the year.
Yeah, it's still going to beworth a watch for sure.
And I also want to take thisopportunity, since this is the
last one of 2024, to say ifyou've been listening to big
things on Apple or Spotify orwherever, just give it a try, go
on YouTube and watch theepisode and see what you think,

(02:50):
compared to the usual in-earlisten.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, it would be really nice if you did that.
This is also our 13th episode,which means that we've been
consistently posting for 13weeks.
That's great.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, and we just hit 500 subscribers on YouTube,
which is a goal that we had forthe start, the end of this year
yeah, if you listen to thispodcast anywhere, at any time,
we love you yeah, if you're partof the apple gang, you're part
of the bigger audience.
Definitely, we're really tryingto juice things up on youtube
and even spotify.

(03:22):
We're going to be getting videoepisodes on Spotify in the new
year.
So, wherever you're listeningor tuning in from, thank you,
but check out YouTube.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, so for the last episode of the year, we're just
going to cover three big thingsfor today, plus follow a few
rabbit trails.
One of them is Instagramannounced that they're releasing
trial reels.
We'll get into what that is andwhy it's important.
We're also going to talk GoldenGlobe nominations and we're
also going to unpack the viraltrend on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
that is, we listen and we don't judge.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
So we'll see.
But before we get into thosestories, I do want to share an
important announcement.
You and I, this weekend dabbledinto something that we've never
experienced before.
That is a very I would say it'sa pillar of our culture and
we've always haven't been ableto participate.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Haven't been able to or chose not to.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Or chose not to until this weekend.
Right, and that is the realm ofHarry Potter.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
And we said it at the same time.
Isn't that from New Girl?
Yes, I love New Girl.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
But anyways.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah.
So your family came to visitfor our daughter's birthday a
few weeks ago and oursister-in-law is a big Harry
Potter fan and was talking abouthow good the books were and she
wished she could read themagain.
And I've been like kind ofspinning my tires on a few books
recently that I've started andnot finished.

(04:56):
So I was like, why not?
I've got a Kindle, I may aswell just download Harry Potter
and give it a try.
And uh, so I did it and Icruised through the first book.
It was like a pretty easy read.
Um, so we kind of impromptu,spontaneously decided to watch

(05:16):
the movie this weekend.
Yeah, harry Potter and the thePhilosopher's Stone.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Philosopher's Stone.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah and it was.
Yeah, it was my first dabble inHarry Potter.
I've never seen the movies, norread the books, and and you
were going off in your Instagramstory.
Yeah, I decided to do like alittle recap of it, like a live
reaction to the movie on myInstagram stories, and people
loved it because I think I hadlike some funny hot takes and

(05:40):
one liners, yeah, overall likecute, cute and spooky.
I can see why there's like likekids who like it, adults who
like it.
I think the fact that it's likekind of old and like looks old
adds to the charm a little bityeah.
I love Hermione.
I will die for her.
She's amazing.
She's the cutest character ever.

(06:01):
They're all so young and cute.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, I think my favorite is Ron.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Ron is such a cutie.
Ron Weasley I have a crush onall of them.
They're so cute, yeah, and Iloved Hermione the best.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
And I don't know, maybe I'm like I don't really
know anything about this series,but I'd really love to see the
origin story or, like the lovestory between Harry's parents.
I wonder if that's part of it.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Maybe I feel like I was looking at.
I was trying to find booknumber two in my Kindle and when
actually no, it was on Fable.
Shout out to Fable the newGoodreads, except better.
But I was trying to find booknumber two on Fable so I could
update that I was currentlyreading it and it shows when you
start to search for it.
It shows all the differentbooks and there's a prequel.

(06:46):
There's a Harry Potter prequelthat like comes before book
number one.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm assuming it was published later, so maybe, yeah,
maybe it's like the originstory.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I hope it's a romance .
I have no idea.
And how?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
they like came to be together.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
But I was not.
The one thing that'sinteresting about Harry Potter
is it mixes all of the things.
It's like you got ghosts, yougot witches, you got spirits,
you got dragons.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
You got frogs, frogs and toads, yuck.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Frogs are like my all time worst, most disgusting
thing.
If I had a greatest fear, itwas toads.
They got frogs.
There's a lot of frogs.
There's so many owls in it.
But then there's also like ascene with like a unicorn that
died and they were drinking itsblood.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And a centaur and a centaur.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Like I was not mentally prepared.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
And there's dragons.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, I already said dragons, I wasn't mentally
prepared for all of those things.
In one movie I feel like wewatch like other mystical
fantasy type shows or movieslike Game of Thrones.
It's like okay you get you getused to the dragons, you get
past the dragons mentally andthen you can move on and enjoy
the show.
But with this I had to like,confront all these like

(07:55):
imaginary things and then likespells and like it was sports a
lot sports sports is a hugetheme of that movie, quidditch
sheesh.
So it's, it's like a lot for thesenses and like it was one big
signal of like pop culture todayno no, no, am I reaching?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
that's reaching for sure.
Why there's sports?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
there's like fantasy, mysticism that's not a signal
it's all things that are verypopular now yeah, but it's just
like it's a popular thing.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's been popular for like the last 20 years next
thing I'm going to get youwatching is Lord of the Rings no
, thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's the one thing.
I'm sorry to all those likeLord of the Rings nerds out
there.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I don't think there's dragons in it, or there's.
I don't think there's frogs.
I don't think there's dragonsin it, or there's.
I don't think there's frogs.
I don't think there's.
Well, there's probably unicorns.
There's definitely centaurs.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Centaurs are so weird .

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Like centaurs are weird I don't know, I haven't.
I haven't read the books in awhile, but yeah, I feel like
it's a little more narrow.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Less mass mysticism.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I just like more narrow, yeah, mass mysticism.
I just like I really likereality.
I just like have a hard timewith, like, my imagination, but
they did it.
I mean it was a really cutemovie.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'll watch the second one, and I'm sure they get a
little bit more modern and likebetter effects as they go,
because I'm pretty sure it wassimilar to lord of the rings,
where they didn't come out likequickly one after the other.
It was like every couple yearsthere's a new one.
So I feel like we're going tofeel the jump from movie to
movie.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and now that I see them as kids, I'm so proud
of them for like being in thepublic eye for so long, like
they were really child stars andthey're all kind of like good
people.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, the only thing that's hard, hard.
I think this is just aperception thing, I haven't
experienced it, but the thingthat seems like it would be hard
is when you're part of a movieor a tv show that becomes such a
cult classic that it's hard tolike redefine yourself as an
actor for sure, because likethey.
None of them have like done toomuch noteworthy stuff past that

(10:04):
series.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Right, but at that, at that like, um, like, at that
being that popular, like being aglobal sensation, like that,
you don't really need to doanything else.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Right Like Emma.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Watson is Hermione, and if she has to be anything
else besides that, she's Bellefrom Beauty and the Beast, and
that's it.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, I feel like Emma Watson was probably the one
that had the most expansivecareer after Harry Potter, but I
feel like Harry and Ron.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't even know their names.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah Me neither I know Harry Potter like the guy
that acted.
Harry Potter had some othernotable roles, but I just feel
like Emma Watson was the onethat like exited that and then
did a lot more.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right, yeah, but I feel like they probably don't
even need to.
It's like nice yeah, must benice.
It's kind of like like Seinfeld, like you don't really need to
do anything else when you'rethat big of a like sensation
right, except Jerry's touring aswe speak yeah, he's a comedian
though right, elaine had veep,which was a goaded.

(11:11):
Oh for sure, so good yeahanyways, so that was a huge
update for this.
Um.
I also will take thisopportunity to plug my other
podcast.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's called easy reads because you're doing harry
potter on it next.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
No, we're not but we actually talk about harry potter
literally in every singleepisode that we've ever done all
year, because people can'tbelieve they haven't watched or
read the books.
So it's a huge update for theEasy Reads community.
So if you're part of that, wewill do a follow-up episode
about it as well.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I don't think it is that big of an update until you
actually pick up one of thebooks.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Because it's a reading podcast.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Right, Well, we talk.
It's like a movie based on abook.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Right.
So are you just going to watchthe movie of every book that you
guys talk about on the podcastnow?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
We do sometimes, Just you know.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Instead of reading the book.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
No, we read the book.
You better read the book Idon't want to.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
No, we read the book you better read the book I don't
want to.
Sorry, easy Reads community.
Should we get into the thing?
One Sure, instagram announcestrial reels, so Instagram is
allowing creators to test theirreal ideas on new audiences
before sharing them withfollowers.
Trial reels will be shown tonon-followers first, providing

(12:21):
engagement data, including views, likes, comments and shares,
approximately 24 hours afterpublishing, to help creators
determine whether it's worthsharing with people that follow
their account.
So this feature aims to helpusers try out new ideas and
expand their audiences withoutnegatively impacting their
established following on theplatform.
Many, which may be useful forcreators who feel chained to a

(12:44):
particular style of content andthat is largely what Adam
Mosseri kind of talked aboutwhen he was announcing trial
reels was that, uh, this was forthe creators that had
apparently expressed to him thatthey felt that they were afraid
to try other types of content.
What do think?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
yeah, I mean, on the one hand, it seems like
Instagram is giving creators achance to test out concepts, and
I think that's really cool, um.
But on the other hand, like I'malso seeing a lot of
frustration from creators whoare just like asking for their
content to be seen by theirfollowers.
This isn't really like doingthat necessarily.
This is getting shown to peoplewho aren't following you.

(13:26):
So I mean I think I would useit just to see, like net new,
who would be interested in thiscontent, who doesn't know me.
But then your face the harshreality that, like I feel like
it's really hard to make contentfor people who don't know you
very well.
It takes like another muscle,which, I mean, that's the whole

(13:47):
point of Instagram.
They're just trying to favorcontent that will get shared and
saved.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, I think I can't relate to big creators.
I don't have the stakes thatthey have when sharing content
and I don't even share that muchcontent on Instagram in the
first place on my own channel.
But I can imagine that if youhave 300,000 followers and an
engagement rate that you'rehappy with that, you would feel

(14:15):
that there's a level of riskattached to publishing a
different style of content and Ithink Instagram's really gone
above and beyond to make themfeel that there's a level of
risk attached to publishing adifferent style of content.
Um, and I think, like Instagram,has really gone above and
beyond to like make them feelthat way, like get like your
audience is King, give them thecontent they've they've known to
expect from you.
This is why they trust you, thatkind of thing.

(14:35):
As I've thought about this, Ithink it's actually a really
interesting tool to use,potentially differently than
Instagram intended it, because Ithink people have wanted to
have some sort of test featurefor a long time and that's
obviously interesting.
But I also feel like you couldtake the angle of, like this is
a different type of reel thatyou can publish and a different

(14:58):
type of content, different typeof reel that you can publish and
a different type of content,and that's that Like.
I kind of liked the idea thatyou can now create content to
publish on trial reels anddecide that it's only going to
go to people that don't followyou.
It's almost like top of funnelcontent and maybe content that
you frame differently becauseyou know that people that don't
follow you and likely don't knowyou are going to see it.

(15:19):
And then you still get toproduce content for your
audience outside of trial reelsand just a traditional reel that
is specifically for youraudience.
So it almost they're giving usthe ability to create our own
funnel and have differentcontent, perform different ways
with different audiences.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
For sure.
That's the most interestingthing to me, yeah, and I think
once you do a trial and if itperforms well, you can say like,
send it to the rest of myfollowers.
And so I'm curious about whatthat flip looks like, because
then it'll show up like on yourfeed and on your reels tab and
then get shown, presumably, toyour followers.
So whatever flip they'reswitching for that like that's

(15:58):
interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, like does it.
If, once you decide to publishit to your followers, does it
like suddenly show up like itwas published, like that moment.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And like get the initial, like boost that a new
post usually gets.
Like that would be curious tome and I also would be curious
to know if there's like a timelimit, like do you only have?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I think so.
I think there is a time limit.
I have the feature.
I haven't tried it yet, though.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, we should try it and report back.
I know it says approximately 24hours after publishing you get
those insights, but I wonder ifyou have to decide at that point
if you want to publish it toyour followers or if you can go
back and do that four days later.
Right, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I kind of like the idea of like sending something
out to people that don't followyou and just leaving it there.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's exactly what I'm saying, too.
Like that's, I'd be moreinclined to use the feature that
way.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I wish they had this kind of feature for other
things like podcasts.
Yeah, I think it'd be fun to doa podcast trial of like
different like subject matters.
Like I know we always jokeabout having like a sports show
one day.
Like if we could just likedabble and see like what would a
sports, how would it perform inthe podcast network or universe
.
But like doesn't have to go toour immediate audience.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, because we feel kind of not stuck, but like
people, our audience expectsmarketing content from us.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, and we're giving them pop culture right.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
So like it would have been cool to test that before,
just like going out on a limbwith it, but hopefully y'all
like it yeah, I know it's.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's a huge gamble and I I get that pressure.
It's like you.
You people expect one thingfrom you and I think oftentimes,
like creators, can feeltypecast, similar to like actors
, like they have to do this onecertain thing, this one niche
they double down on and that'sthe only thing that people care
about.
So if they want to trysomething outside of that, it
can be daunting.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, and even we talked about like influencers'
aesthetic a few weeks ago, andeven that I feel like
influencers could have somestress around evolving their
style, even Not even just thetype of content, but just how
they look or dress themselves intheir content, depending like
what their authority is.
Cause if someone followedstarted following you when you

(18:10):
were a hipster and then nowyou're not, you know remember
hipsters?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I do.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I feel like I didn't we see one in the wild?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I was going to say, the other day we saw a hipster
and we're like wow, that Ihaven't seen a hipster in so
long.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I know I feel like the days of the hipster were
like the golden days, notbecause being a hipster was so
fun, but just because it waslike pre all this crazy world
stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, not to get into politics, but just like
there's so much stuff happeningaround the world, I feel like
anything 2019 or earlier wasjust the golden age, an ease
that we didn't know we had right.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
We're just like naive and just drink your little
lattes, yeah, like.
Take me back to the lumbersexual aesthetic when everything
was simpler.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I think you were a hipster, definitely.
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I was a hipster and then even earlier than that,
like late high school, I waslike kind of like emo, like punk
vibes oh yeah, like the tightband t-shirts and like did you
ever dye your hair?
I like had like highlights orwhatever, like bleach yeah
frosted tips not frosted tips somuch as like highlights you

(19:18):
never went dark no, my dad wouldnot allow it good job, todd.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, I wouldn't be into that you did have a top
knot, just just just so thepeople put that out there for
everyone.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah so that was something yeah, it wasn't
like the full long hair with thetop knot, it was like shaved on
the sides, it was like anundercut and long on the top
with the top knot.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
That's crazy, Mike.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah.
That's why we're lucky, we meteach other when we did.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
We might not have.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
The vibes might not have been present.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
It would not have been present.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
No, I heard you used white eyeliner.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
You know that's still cool.
By the way, there are somegirlies out there doing it right
the way the white eyeliner yeah, yeah, I haven't seen it, but
I'll take your word for it um,the other thing I wanted to say
about like shows and testingdifferent formats is if I could
have this feature for a podcastor for any type of media.

(20:20):
It would be to test a realityshow.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I thought you were going to hit me with something
crazy, but yeah, that's notsurprising.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, I've said it lots, Like our team knows this.
It would be super fun Maybe notalways fun to have like a
little BTS reality show ofarcade.
The only thing that I can't getpast is like who would be the
villain?
And it's not allowed to beanyone within the team.
Like no, like inter-teamfighting, which I know every

(20:49):
good reality show needs like avillain.
So the only thing I've landedon and I've thought about this
long and hard is that it wouldhave to be clients yeah, we've
talked about that and that'sabsolutely not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
But I actually I've thought about it more and I
think the villain would have tobe like one of our competitors.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Like you think back to one of the goaded movies of
our time.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Good, Burger, oh wow, remember Good Burger.
Yeah, and the villain in.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Good Burger was Mondo Burger Right.
Good Burger yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
And the villain in Good Burger was Mondo Burger,
right.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
So we got to figure out like what is Arcade's Mondo
Burger and build a reality TVshow around that villain.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yes, maybe we need to just do that for just like the
vibes, like every Even without areality TV show we need to give
our team someone to hate.
Yeah, we need a villain.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Like we need to like compete against something.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, someone that just like keeps us awake at
night yeah, and like we justhave to be better than them.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, yeah, every good hero needs a villain yeah,
like I feel like michaeljordan's chicago bulls their,
their villain was the detroitpistons yes like who's our
Detroit Pistons?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Who is our Detroit Pistons?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
And that's assuming we're MJ Malice at the Palace.
I guess that wasn't with theBulls.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
But yeah Well, I'm not going to name any names, but
I've got some thoughts, so I'llsave them for off camera.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
For the reality TV show.
How about that?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I feel like the closest thing we have to a
reality TV show right now is ourTikTok, because it's like the
point of view of the socialgirlies.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Shout out to our social girlies.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, they're doing vlogmas as we speak.
So, they're posting a vlogevery single day.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I really feel for Pamela because she came.
She's our social media internwho's here watching this record
the show, but she came to theoffice today to like do her
vlogmas and it is so boring likethere's no way we could have a
reality today is extra boringit's just because most of our
team doesn't come to the officeon mondays or fridays, and it's

(22:50):
the last week before theholidays.
Yeah, I don't expect anyone tobe here, but it's just like a
tough day to do a vlog yeah theother closest thing we have to a
reality show is my my youtubetell us more about that oh,
thanks, um, I just startedyoutube.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
It's really fun and I'm gonna do more of it yeah,
you've been doing monthly vlogs,but we've been talking about
how you need to go weekly yeah,and I think you're also going to
add a weekly vlog for vlog whoa.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I did not sign off on that yet.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yes, but I have signed off on this.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Just when will I do that?
I barely have the time to dothis show.
You're doing it anyway.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
No, I know you just cherry pick some of the stuff
that you're shooting for yourweekly vlog on your channel to
be specifically around buildingour weekly episode for big
things and showing off the team.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I mean, you know what ?
We have a writer's room everyweek.
Sound off in the comments ifyou would like to see a weekly
vlog on Big Things' YouTubechannel Be right, brb, just
texting all my friends to jumpin the comments real quick Okay
before we move on to the nextbig thing, I do have a note in
here about who would win in afight in arcade.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Whoa, and I think so.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
HR did not approve.
No, totally, um.
But I think that came outbecause the team was talking
about, like who would win in afight if it was up against Mel,
our social media director, orMorgan, our editorial lead, and
everyone.
The consensus was Morgan, andno shade to Mel.
Mel is a very wonderful, strong, resilient person.
But I just think we all kind oflike sense that Morgan's got

(24:23):
that that girl in her, she's gotthat dog in her.
So, anyways, it kind of startedpeople thinking like okay, if
we had a reality show.
And it reminded me on Vlogmas,when I was doing my vlog, and it
was also like kind of a boringday around here.
I'm really doing this likereality show, pitch lots of
favors, um.
But Ben was joking like oh,like maybe we'll like start some

(24:46):
drama, like maybe I'll get in afistfight with Mike or
something, and then that startedlike the conversation, like if
there was a fistfight, who wouldwin?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
yeah, I think, I think I agree that Morgan would
win.
Um, mel's pretty tough, but Ithink, think the sole thing that
tips the scales in Morgan'sfavor is that she swims
competitively.
I feel like to be on a swimteam or to swim competitively.
You have to have that edge.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Like, you got to be willing to like dunk someone you
know.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, the older I get , the less I care about like
physical strength.
Yeah, the older I get, the lessI care about like physical
strength and the more I careabout being the ability to like
like talk circles around.
Someone Like this reminds me ofthat Yellowstone episode where,
like, beth went to the bar andshe's like this is what I do for

(25:36):
fun, and she just like getsdrunk and then like picks some
guy and like just lures him overand then reads his mail and
embarrasses him.
Yes, that would be like a reallycool skill.
I just don't have it.
I don't.
I'm not like that ruthless.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
You're not that type, that personality type.
Yeah, you're too nice.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I am too nice, you're not too nice.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
You're too nice to do that.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm too nice.
You're the perfect amount ofnice.
That's nice.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Thank you, I'm pretty nice too.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Anyways, enough of that.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Anyways, enough about trial reels.
I feel like we barely talkedabout this story, but it was
iconic.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's there.
I'm sure Adam Masseri has apost on it on his Instagram that
you can go watch.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, we'll drop some stuff in the show notes.
Do you want to talk about theGolden Globe nominations?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, Golden Globe nominations came out and it's
really interesting because weactually watch TV and so I feel
like we have some thoughts.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, I got to confess I feel like we didn't do
a great job with the lastawards breakdown.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
We didn't, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Which one was it?
Even it was the Grammys.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
The Grammys?
Yeah, it was only because wedon't like, we're not like music
heads, we're more podcastpeople.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, so we don't listen to a lot of the new
emerging artists, so I feel likewe just were biased towards the
few that we knew, like Shibuzyand.
Sabrina Carpenter.
But when it comes to the GoldenGlobes, we know TV around here,
so we've got opinions.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
For sure.
What are our opinions?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Favorite nominations, one would be the Bear.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yes, we like that show.
It's also again nominated inthe comedy category and I went
to see Matty Matheson last monthfor this book event and someone
in the audience asked him isthe Bear a comedy?
Because that's a big criticismof the show.
It's getting all these awards.
In the audience asked him isthe bear a comedy?
Because that's a big criticismof the show.
It's getting all these likeawards in the comedy category

(27:24):
when like really it's like notreally a comedy show.
But Maddie explained that ifyour show is under like 45
minutes or something, there's noother category that you can be
up for except for comedy.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Oh, so he's like.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I have no opinion on whether it's comedy or not, but
that's the only category we cango for.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It definitely has comedic relief, but it's like I
would say it's more written likea drama.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, for sure, it's like I think it's a drama.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, but there's funny parts for sure, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Um, so that's a show that I'm excited for.
I also parts, for sure.
Yeah, um, so that's a show thatI'm excited for I also.
We both watched mr and mrssmith this year with donald
glover and that was also up foran award, and we really like
that show, and both actors inthat show are also up for their
categories that's cool.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, donald glover never ceases to amaze me with
how this isn isn't the rightword, but I want to say
ambidextrous.
He is Like he's.
That's not what he is, but he'sjust like so versatile across
different forms of art, whetherit's like music or poetry or, um
, I'm sure he's great like withvisual art but also acting.

(28:36):
He's such an artist, yes, and Ithink he's even talked about how
, like he likes to move kind offluidly across mediums.
So for a while he was known asa musician, but then as soon as
he gets fame or recognition inthat art form, then he wants to
be in something else.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, and he started as a writer.
He was a writer for 30 Rock,which was super cool.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Oh't even know that yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
He.
That's how he started, like hiscareer.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Cool yeah and 30 rocks.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
So then he was a writer in 30 rock and then he
acted in no he was a writer in30 rock, then he was a comedian,
then he acted in right, he didstand up.
Yeah, I went to a show with forhim.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh, oh, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I went to a show for him, or one of his shows, early
in his career and it was a showthat was half stand-up comedy
and half music cool.
And then I got to meet him yeswe got a really cute picture
together.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I remember, I remember seeing that picture
when I was like just starting tobe into you and wanting to date
you and just kind of feelingjealous of that photo.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I know I would have been jealous too.
Like we look like we're dating.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
You definitely looked like there was a vibe.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
We looked like a cute couple.
Nothing happened, nothinghappened.
He was just like hey, bye.
Good to know.
I was like bye, um, but anyways, back to the golden globe.
The other category that I thinkis interesting is in best
performance by a female actor ina supporting role.
We have ariana grande, who'snominated, and so is selena

(30:04):
gomez.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
to pop disney, pops girlies is selena for that, only
murders in the building no, shewas nominated in that category
for emilia perez.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
so the golden globes is interesting because it's
movies and tv.
So there's a bunch ofnominations or categories for TV
and then there's a bunch formovies and she's interestingly
nominated for both TV and moviesthis year, get it girl.
I know it's a lot going on forher and she just got engaged.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, to Benny Blanco .
To Benny Blanco.
I don't really know anythingabout him, but I'm stoked, I
knew that.
So I don't really know anythingabout him, but I'm stoked, I
knew that.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, and there's a lot of other categories.
Wicked was nominated for a fewthings, which is no surprise In
terms of other TV shows thePenguin was nominated right.
Yep Shogun is nominated, whichyou really liked.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
And Nobody Wants Us was nominated, which is one of
our favorite shows, but I thinkare saying like it shouldn't
have been nominated.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
it's like not that good according to the critics,
but yeah, it kind of scratchesthe itch of like, kind of like a
cheap rom-com, you know, likethat, which is what everybody
has been wanting.
So I think that's probably whyit got nominated like we just
have a severe lack of good likelighthearted, almost like
borderline PC comedy, and Ithink that was the type of

(31:26):
rom-com that people just weremissing.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
So, and it made Adam Brody great again.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I'm all for that.
Yeah more of that, even have acrush on the guy like he's just
like he checks all the boxes heseems really nice yeah um, so,
yeah, interesting to see allthat stuff come out.
But I think one thing we weretalking about with the golden
globes is, yes, you know, theseshows and movies are quite

(31:55):
popular and lots of people aretalking about them and watching
them, but it doesn't compare tothe numbers of people who are
watching YouTube and Internetshows.
And we saw, I think it was twoyears ago, the Emmy Awards,
which is the awards body forjust strictly TV.
It includes like more TVcategories, like reality and

(32:17):
talk show and daytime, like itreally covers like all facets,
facets of television.
They started to recognizeinternet tv shows like hot ones,
and hot ones was nominated foremmy award, which is like a huge
deal because, like, they'venever done that.
Um, so, and when it comes to tv, youtube is actually the most
watched and people spend moretime watching youtube on tv than

(32:39):
they, and people spend moretime watching YouTube on TV than
they watch network or streaming.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I don't think we really watched a lot of
YouTube on our TV until we hadkids and then we started
watching some of their shows onYouTube on the TV.
I think sometimes you watchvlogs on the TV, but so far we
haven't made the leap personallyinto watching a lot of what we
watch through YouTube.
We could definitely do it forsports now that YouTube has more

(33:04):
sports licensing deals, um, andwe haven't yet sprung for
YouTube premium to to miss allthe ads, but I think it could be
a contender in the next year orso for us as a family, totally,
I think.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
So I mean, I feel like I watched, I don't realize
what, like what is considered aninternet show to me, like it's
also just like a YouTube series,you know, but like it with all,
like it is a YouTube show or aninternet show, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
So we do watch some things like Hot Ones was
probably the first one wewatched, so it makes sense that
it's the first one to benominated, not that, like we're
the standard that everyone elsefollowed, but, like for us, when
it came to watching YouTube onour TV, I feel like Hot Ones was
the first one, and thenArchitectural Digest, open Door
was another one that we watcheda lot on our TV, just like

(33:57):
sometimes on the weekend or inthe evening, yeah, or NPR's Tiny
Desk series.
True yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I feel like we've been watching that for years.
We just like have it on.
I also really love Chicken ShopDate Amelia de Mordenberg De
Mordenberg, that's how you sayit yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's a good one.
Mr Beast is obviously the bigone.
I just personally am not thatinto his content.
I think like it's interestingsometimes, but I catch more of
it on social media just kind ofclipped down than like
committing to like going to hischannel and watching his latest
episodes.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Mr Beast is so crazy.
Actually there was like a newreport that came out kind of
similar to the timing of, like,the Golden Globes, but according
to this report that they rankedall the top Netflix shows in
terms of total hours watched andmr beast surpassed all of them.
So they had like for fornetflix.

(34:49):
They had you.
Season four, queen charlotte bybridgerton.
Wednesday season one, the glory.
Season one, jenny and georgia.
Season two, the night agent.
Season one, which happened tobe the top watched netflix show
with 81.2 million.
But even surpassing all ofthose shows was mr beast with
1.06 billion watch hours that'sjust hard to wrap my head around

(35:13):
I know it's crazy, so I justwonder like, when will these
like award shows catch up towhat people are actually
watching?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
If they were to start including more internet shows,
which one would you nominate?

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Chicken Chop Date.
I love her.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, that's a good one.
I'm jealous of that one.
Like jealous that you pickedthat one.
I don't know which one I wouldpick.
Beyond that Like Hot Onesobviously got its recognition,
mr Beast is getting itsrecognition.
Pick beyond that like hot onesobviously got its recognition,
mr beast is getting itsrecognition.
I feel like when I think ofother big creators, they're more
like streamer style, like kaisanat or right or um jake paul

(35:51):
yeah um, and then there's someolder ones.
I don't know if they're stillpopular.
Is david david dubrick or daviddubrick still?
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I think he kind of like had some legal troubles, um
, but we actually just listenedto a podcast episode with Jake
Shane and yeah he was sayinghe's like a tiktoker turned
podcaster and his podcasttherapist is on YouTube and it's
quite popular it's a funny name.
I know um, but he was talkingabout how he really has a lot of

(36:23):
vision for himself as like thisnew media creator to like kind
of take over late night.
So when you think about latenight tv, it's hosted by like
all the jimmies in hollywood andthey kind of like have these
like really um produced segments.
So then they'll have like acelebrity come on who's there to
talk about the latest projectthat they're promoting, and all

(36:43):
the stories and anecdotes andlike little off, like things are
just like very produced.
And what Jake Shane was sayingis like he's able to get these
celebrities and it's totallyreal, raw conversation.
There's not like a producerthat had like five calls with
their pr person to kind of likefigure out what stories they're

(37:04):
going to bring to the show andthey're not being prompted.
It's not scripted by any means.
Well, that's kind of like whatlate night is and people are
like steering away from thatbecause they're kind of over
that, like shenanigans, and theyreally want something that's
real and unproduced andunfiltered and a little unhinged
, and that is someone like JakeShane.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
He described himself as like Andy Cohen, mixed with.
Who is it?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I'm having a hard time remembering.
Andy Cohen is the one that Iremember.
Yeah, shoot, I wish I wrotethat down.
Yeah, well, anyways, keep youreye on Jake Shane.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
I think he's Shoot.
I wish I wrote that down.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Well, anyways, keep your eye on Jake Shane.
I think he's going places.
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
He just has a knack for being creative, being really
entertaining and then also likebuilding lore really quickly,
Like the way that he talks tohis followers and his community
and just the like terminologyand phrases yeah, I'm not going
to say it cause I know yourparents are watching, but um,

(38:08):
just the way he addresses hisfans and like, like phrases
catch on really quickly.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, he's so good at that.
Um, speaking about Hot Ones,did you see it got sold.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yes, I think it's interesting that it got sold one
.
I didn't realize it was ownedby Buzzfeed, cause I view it as
a complex show.
I didn't realize it was ownedby BuzzFeed, because I view it
as a complex show, but it wassold by BuzzFeed to another, I
think some Soros investmentgroup or something like that.
But the interesting thing for methat I really liked out of this
transaction was that, from whatI've read, sean Evans, the host

(38:37):
of the show and the creator ofthe show, actually has an
ownership stake as part of theinvestment group that bought it
so that's, really cool to seesomeone who was like, I say,
just the talent, because that'swhat he was, but obviously is so
much more than just the talentnow also have a stake in the
show as it continues to grow andyeah increase in value and

(38:57):
things like that well, I sawsome like content about when it
first went on sale and howpeople were saying it actually
doesn't make business sense forit's kind of like a liability to
buy hot ones without havingSean Evans as part of the
ownership group because he wouldbe kind of like a flight risk,
like just being the talent eventhough he's so integral to the
show.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Like could the show survive without him?
Maybe not.
He's all obviously like quiteexpensive to keep on board
because he's so prolific now.
So it's like for whoever isgoing to own this new entity,
they like sean evans has to comewith it.
They either have to pay like ahigh price for his like
involvement or give him part ofthe ip so he can be part

(39:39):
ownership yeah so good, good for.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Sean Evans.
Yeah yeah, smart by theownership group and good move by
Sean Evans.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
For sure Should we move on to our last big.
Thing.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, we listen and we don't judge, so some
relationships may be fallingapart on TikTok thanks to this
new trend we listen and we don'tjudge.
Others may be getting stronger,but overall at least it's
entertaining.
So if you're unfamiliar, it's atrend where a couple will look
at the camera, sitting next toeach other, and they'll chant

(40:11):
together.
We listen and we don't judge.
There you go and then they'lltake turns listing confessional
style issues that they have witheach other or things that they
do on their own because of, like, each other's quirks, that
maybe that their partner didn'tknow, and the whole idea is that
they can't be judged forconfessing that thing and it's

(40:33):
supposed to be entertaining.
Sometimes it's a little bitmore cringe.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, there are some that are so hard to watch
because people are really likeputting it all out there.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, some of them are like pretty savage and you
can tell that there's somedysfunction in that relationship
.
Others are almost like justfunny and endearing and you can
tell that like it's just funnyto each other because they have
a good base.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
For sure, like some of my favorites, like the good
ones where, like one person waslike, sometimes I watch show
episodes without you and fake myreaction when we're together.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, and then you could, you could tell in that
one how they react to each otherthat it's like not that big of
a deal.
They just think it's funny.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
And then one of my favorites I saw is this wife
telling her husband sometimes ifI want you to do something, I
give you a compliment first andthen then you can just see like
doesn't just think about all thetimes where that has worked,
where like he's so like easythat he just like needs to be
complimented, and then he'll dowhatever, but that would work on
me no, for sure, that istotally you 100.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
That same couple.
The guy said that sometimeshe'll act like he doesn't smell
the silent and deadly farts thatshe rips, which is so funny.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, that's so funny .
Yeah, there are some that areso savage that I can't believe
they're on the internet.
Like one person said, sometimeswhen I'm doing the laundry, I
check your underwear for skinmarks.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Which honestly reason numero uno that I don't wear
white underwear just to be safebut like how could you put that
on the internet about yourspouse?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
like that's crazy, yeah and someone else said,
sometimes the dog will get intothe floss, and then I wrap it up
and put it back, so you don'tknow or get mad at me yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
But also like why would a dog want to get into the
floss?
I know that's so specific.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
That's a head scratcher to me okay, this one
that was actually so crazy whenI said that your dad's car was
in a hit and run.
It was actually me.
That's gnarly and some of themare really rude.
Like one person said, I screen90 of your calls and text.
Yeah, the worst one I saw ofall of the internet and I
watched a lot of these issomebody said this man said

(42:43):
about his wife I found yourwedding vows before a wedding
and read them and then wrotemine to make sure that mine were
going to be better than yours.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
What a strong start to a relationship.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
And then so she was like so you faked your reaction.
And he's like yeah, like atyour wedding.
Imagine thinking back like thatmoment.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
That is a narcissist.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, that was so much that the comments went
crazy, cause, like I was likerun girl.
But like, imagine, like you'rethe moment when you're like
saying your vows to your partnerat your wedding.
It's like seared into yourbrain, like, and for all of that
to feel like a lie, like like Idon't know how you can come
back from that yeah, that's likepretty, pretty intense I'm.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I personally lean towards the more endearing ones,
like, I think, the couple thatwe both like that feels like
they have a healthy relationship, so this is just like water off
their back.
One of the guys said thatsometimes he'll eat her
leftovers and then tell her thatthey went bad and he threw them
away.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Classic, that's just like marriage.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
That's just like marriage.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
That's like honestly roommates.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
True.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Like whatever.
It's just not a big deal, it'snot that deep.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
But it's funny, especially when it's the type of
roommate where they like puttheir name on everything oh yeah
and they're.
They're like keeping track ofeverything that's in the fridge,
just to make sure there's.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
So there's two extremes with roommates.
It's like people who are likethat, who are like they're like
this is my side of the fridge,this is your side of the fridge,
and then everything is labeled.
And then there's people who arelike share everything.
Or there's that roommate thatlike like.
I remember a friend of mine hada roommate and he would like
come home to their apartment,open the fridge, be like hmm,

(44:27):
what should we have for a snack?
And he's like what do we havein the pantry?
Like as if it's like his mom'shouse, and she like came back
from Costco, like everyone inthis place is like buying their
own stuff.
Yeah, so I always leaned more.
I don't know what kind yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
So I always leaned more I don't know what kind of
roommate you were, but I alwaysleaned more towards like the end
of we just share everything butwe all do our part to make sure
that, like, we make up for whatwe consume.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
You had some pretty good roommates then, yeah.
I was like I think I've livedin both scenarios and both were
fine.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah.
I'm a pretty were you everlabeling your stuff in the
fridge?
I did Um in one situation whereI like didn't know my roommates
, like I was put into like ahouse with a bunch of other
people too, and so like we allkind of just like did that and
it's fine, it's like not not ahuge deal.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Did you ever have like a really messy roommate
situation?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Tell me more.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
It wasn't that bad.
It was just like this person'slike really messy.
Is this dramatic?
Oh like literally messy.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I thought I meant more like like it was a dicey
experience.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I don't think I want to.
I don't want to share it.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
No, no Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Um, but yeah, this trend has been really fun to
watch.
We actually wanted to do thistrend for you, live on the show,
but we have such we have toogood of a relationship to do
that we like literally couldn'tcome up with anything yeah, we
definitely like.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
There's things that I do that annoy you for sure,
like every married couple, yeah,and I think we do some of the
things that, like some of thesepeople talk about, but, like
with each other's knowledge,like sometimes I just need a
break because the kids are crazythat day, so I spend a little
longer in the bathroom thannormal.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, like every man.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Just like scrolling on my phone.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Or sometimes if you're going out with your
friends, then I'm going to takethat opportunity to order
McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
For sure, or like.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I might even watch ahead some shows.
There was a couple actuallythere's a couple of times where
I watched ahead some shows andthen you were kind of upset at
me, so I didn't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
What shows?
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
House of Dragon.
Maybe, Cause you weren't sureif you wanted to keep watching
it after the first coupleepisodes of season two cause
they were so intense, but Ireally wanted to see what
happened, so I watched ahead andthen I was like it's okay,
You're going to like thisepisode.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Right, yeah, yeah, and I actually I'm glad that you
did, because then you can giveme like spoiler alerts or like
trigger warnings.
Yeah, that shows intense.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Are there other things that you've seen people
talk about in this trend thatyou relate to?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Like kind of, but like nothing that that's like
okay.
So the reason why this trend isreally hard for us is like
there's two types of likeversions of the trend.
One is like when they confessthings that they've done that
were a secret, and then theother is like quirks and
patterns that the other persondo does and how they react to
them, and like the quirks andpatterns stuff like doesn't
really like phase me.

(47:17):
It just kind of like I've,we've been together for like
almost 10 years, like I'veaccepted you for who you are.
Oh, thank you, and I don't carethat much.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
You know right, I was always stressed that because I
know that I snore, I was alwaysworried that the person I ended
up with would have a really hardtime with my snoring yeah, and
as a perfect angel that doesn'tmove an inch when I sleep, then,
like I actually have learned tolove your snoring.
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
No, I'm totally joking.
I'm such a disruptive sleepertoo, so it actually worked out
great.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, we've accepted each other for who we are.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
So, anyways, the reason why this trend doesn't
apply to us is because Iliterally can't keep any secrets
from you.
Like I tell you things that youdon't ask to hear.
Like everything that kind ofenters my brain comes out to you
, so like I don't have likethose like deep, dark secrets,
and then for the pattern stuffwe've just kind of like we don't
care.
And then you are so undramatic,like you don't like make things

(48:18):
bigger than they are, like youwouldn't even think, like if
something I do is like kind ofannoying, you don't like make
things bigger than they are,like you wouldn't even think,
like if something I do is likekind of annoying, you don't like
think about it.
Or do you Like you think aboutit, but you don't like make it a
thing?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Right.
Yeah, it's annoying sometimes,like there's things that feel
frustrating, but it's not alwaysjust the result of you doing a
thing A or B.
It's like also am I tired?
Are the kids?

Speaker 1 (48:45):
crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Like, is work stressful?
You know there's so manydifferent dynamics so it's not
like it's not that deep.
Yeah, and you're kind of thesame way.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Totally, yeah.
What's the bigger picture?
Yeah.
One of my favorite things fromthe internet, though, is when,
like, there's couples that arelike we're on the same team same
team, same team yeah, becausethat's more relatable to us like
when life is crazy.
Kids are crazy, work is crazy,the world is crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Like we're on the same team yeah, but tell, tell
our audience like one thing,that is really annoying, that I
do just pick one.
I don't know just pick one,just say it.
I don't know we all know thatyou have a list Is there
something like specific you wantme to say.
No, I just know that I'm notflawless, so there's got to be a
couple of things.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Well, yeah, you're not flawless, but like I can't
think of one on the spot.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yes, you can, you're just afraid to say it.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I don't really know.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
You want me to say yeah, I do.
It's not like that deep though.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
You're prepping me, I can handle it.
We listen and we don't judge.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
So we are doing this.
It's just like one.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Well, just tell me something that's annoying.
It doesn't have to be like asecret.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Well, it's just like you're on your phone a lot, and
it's often for fantasy football.
Yeah, true, like a lot.
And it's often for fantasyfootball yeah, like a lot yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
That's okay, yeah, and I feel like we don't really
get to do like keep up withstuff on our phone that much
during work because we're onlike so many calls.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
We listen and we don't judge.
Now you.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
First off, do you think I'm on my phone more than
you?

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I don't think so.
Well, we?
I think it's a classic trope.
I feel like you see it all allthe time on TikTok.
It's like the they're both ontheir phone scrolling and then
as soon as the girlfriend stopsscrolling, she's like annoyed at
the boyfriend that he's stillon his phone.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I will say that we are for sure that, but we can
just look at our screen time howdo you even see that?
I don't know you don't know I'mjust looking up screen time
what's your daily average?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
six hours and 39 minutes what mine's eight hours?

Speaker 1 (50:52):
hey, you heard it here first folks okay to be fair
.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
It says down 16 from last week.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Mine is down 40% from last week.
Gotcha, I don't know how that'spossible.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
That's so lit.
I love that.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, I needed that today.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
You need to tell me what's one thing that bothers
you about me.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I think you already know.
I think the thing that bothersme is such a small thing, but
it's that you leave a messeverywhere you go.
So I don't really like cooking,but I'd prefer to cook because
I clean up as I go.
So then, like, if you're goingto be the one cleaning up after
I'm done, there's very littleleft to do.

(51:36):
You might have to wash a pan,but if you're cooking, then it's
kid.
It looks like we just movedfrom another apartment into the
kitchen and then someone spilledthe flour.
So then I'm like I really have abig, a tall task, you know, or
you come in from the car andit's like four bags and six

(51:56):
pairs of shoes are in the in thewalking path.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I am like the normal amount of messy when I'm
juggling two kids by myself,like that's just so normal, like
my.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
We listen and we don't judge.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
No, the way you pregnant is like so funny.
She's like you know this.
It's not a big deal at all, butyou leave a mess everywhere you
go.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I just almost spit up my coffee and I swallowed it.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Weird and my throat hurts like everywhere I go is
like such a stretch noteverywhere you go, but like in
the walking path you make itsound like I leave a trail
behind me of like stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
You leave a mess in the kitchen and the entryway.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
That's not everywhere I go.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Primarily yeah.
And it's not a mess and I loveyou all the same, and most days
it's a joy to tidy up thoseareas.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
I think you're just extremely tidy.
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
So I'm moderate moderate, something that I
inherited from my father.
I'm moderate and you're extremebut here's the thing I will
give you credit.
We care about different things.
You care that the house is likeclean, like from like a like a
using a cleaner and like germfree standpoint, which is
important, especially when yougot two young kids, but I care

(53:25):
more about tidiness.
So, like, visually is the spaceclear because I feel like how I
feel mentally is a reflectionof like the environment I'm in
yeah so I can't relax until Ithink all that stuff is out of
my sight and, in addition, Icare about organization.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
So if you're putting everything in a drawer, I won't
stop thinking about what's thecontents and what's the
situation in that drawer.
Yeah, and does everything inthat drawer?
Should it go in that drawer?
Is that the home for everythingin that drawer?
And does everything have a home?
That's what I think about.
Right, but you're like, oh,it's in the drawer, it's fine.

(54:01):
Which means same team, sameteam.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
We're a great team, same team.
So yeah, it's not a big deal,it's not that deep, but that's
one that's.
If I had to pick something,that's the thing I'm picking.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I'm okay with it.
It could be worse.
Yeah, totally.
I want to unpack that today.
No, yes.
Well, with that, should we endit on a high note?
Yes, before we sign off, I justwant to say thank you to
everyone on the big things team.
That's oliver, that's morgan,that's drew, that's pamela

(54:32):
everyone who's like behind thescenes helping us make this
episode go live every week.
Um, also alissa, who's in ourwriter's room.
Um, I just like it.
This is such a fun thing to do.
Like this is probably thefavorite part of my job.
If I could do more of this, Iwould be so excited, and it's
because of people who arewatching.
So thank you for listening,thank you for being here and
supporting the show.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, and you have a special episode to look forward
to in January that many of thoseteam members are contributing
to.
We're going to be releasing our2025 trend report via Scan Club
, but we're going to have aspecial big things episode with
Morgan and Alyssa to unpackthose new trends and how we're
thinking about them, how theycan influence your content or

(55:15):
your campaign plans in a newyear.
So I think it's going to be fun.
We're going to have to changeup the set a little bit.
We still have to figure outwhat that looks like, but plan
for that middle to late January.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, thanks for listening and we'll see you in
2025.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Should I ring the last gong of 2024?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Do it Make it a good one.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
All right, here we go .
Three, two, one.
Happy new year.
Happy new year.
Happy New Year.
We came out of that oneunscathed.
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