October 3, 2025 • 57 mins
Trout Lake and Mount Adams in Washington State constantly come up in conversations about sasquatch, UFOs, and other strange encounters. I speak with someone who has regularly visited the ECETI Ranch for over a decade, and has experienced these events countless times throughout the years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When I first saw the lights at the tree line
that seemed to move and they interact. It's interesting. I've
had experiences with the lights where I'm the only one
in the field. Like a friend of mine was with me.
He went to the bathroom for a few minutes, and
I just kind of openly spoke into the atmosphere, like
thank you for you know, showing my friends what's going
(00:22):
on out here. I really appreciate that. And then the
same light on the south side of the mountain karu
to a luma's bright ball, like bigger than it had
I've ever seen, just just me and it, whatever it is.
And you get up there, you get up to the
last road, and you hiked up on the ridgeline where
the trees stop, and there's nothing there. There's multiple as
(01:15):
setis around the world. There's one in Australia, I think, Japan, Hawaii.
James owns the one in Hawaii, and the Mount Lake
or Mount Adam's Trout Lake location. And they're not all
connected either, some of them. Some of them are just
from other people, you know, like I think that guy
doctor Stephen Greer or something. I think he's all about
(01:36):
that stuff. I know he is, and I tried this
app and he's he's kind of I don't know. I
definitely believe in what's going on with his side of things,
because it's very much the same, except for we have
our own Pacific Northwest kind of hippie edition where if
you are out there, it's just it's very it's very
(01:58):
kind of like I don't know if you've been to
the area up here, but it feels feels like something
that would be in Eugene, Oregon, like very very grateful,
daddy hippie. Everything's homemade, but it's nice. The people are nice.
They're all spiritually kind of aligned, no matter what their denomination.
A lot of meditation, a lot of spoken words stuff.
(02:19):
James does his podcast there every Sunday during the summer
and you can sit in with him. I've done it
a bunch of times. I found out about that place
during my apprenticeship as a young tattooer in a local
like kind of an adjoining town to Skimania County, which
is I'm sure you know Scimunita County. Well, this this
(02:43):
van pulls up and it says Seattle Paranormal and UFO
Investigation Unit, and my sister happened to be in the
tattoo shop at the time, just kind of hanging out,
and I was like, go, you have I go. They
walked out, way go see what they're doing, like right now,
And so she came back and she tracked them down
(03:05):
and said that they said that there was ninety five
reports of UFO activity in trout Lake, Washington the night before. Wow,
And I'm like, what that? What is? Where is trout Lake? What? Like?
I didn't even know where it was or what it
was or anything. And that was two thousand and two,
so before the kind of the dawn of the Internet.
(03:27):
So there's no YouTube, there's no Google, there's no nothing.
So I couldn't figure it out. I just kind of
had to sit on it like okay, well, and then
YouTube happened, and then slowly things started and Google was
going on. Slowly. I was finding out that there's this
is SETI place up there and they have all these photos.
I'm like, well, that must be what's going on and
(03:48):
these people are onto something. And then then I found
out you could visit yourself in the summertime if you
pre register for camping, do the SkyWatch weekend and all that.
So I've just been doing that for a little over
ten years, just going out there every summer once or
twice a year, checking out the ranch and just it's
(04:10):
always consistent as it's interesting. So that's where it all began.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So like, obviously the van caught your attention, so you
were already interested in that sort of stuff. Where did
that interest stem from?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, I just I always kind of had this inclination
that there was more than us going on, and I'm
and then just from paying attention, I was kind of
I still am very much like an autist in the
sense of I have a very photographic memory. It goes
back to when I was like two and a half
years old. I just I noticed things and they stay
(04:50):
in there forever, like just the world, society, the public history, this,
that religion. I'm like, you know, maybe it was this,
Maybe it was where some advanced civilization and maybe well,
I don't know. And then I started reading books on
alien stuff. And then once I found that little section
(05:11):
in the library when I was I don't know, maybe
eight or nine ten, maybe with lockness and Bigfoot and
YETI and all the stuff, I checked out most of
the books, read all those books. My mom took notice.
She bought me this peculiarium, Tales of the Bizarre. It
(05:31):
basically was like an encyclopedia of every strange thing that
can happen on the planet. Like, oh no, just fascinated
with things on this earth that don't really check out,
but that didn't have kind of like a scientific backing
to them. Some stuff is just kind of whatever it was.
I'm very much like I have to see it with
(05:53):
my own eyes, you know. So I've been going up
there trying to figure this all out, and it's been interesting,
just the coalation of everything and how up in Mount
Adams when I go through this kind of stuff, I
try to explain it away, like, no, it was this.
So I when I first saw the lights at the
tree line that seemed to move and they interact like
(06:17):
we do the meditation in the Ezekiel Hall, and everyone
would go out to the field and Jeames has a
bunch of really fun you know, telescopes and night vision
and these military grade goggles and we mess around with those,
and it's interesting. I've had experiences with the lights where
(06:41):
I'm the only one in the field, Like a friend
of mine was with me that I brought from Seattle
who's kind of into the similar stuff, and he went
to the bathroom for a few minutes, and I just
kind of openly spoke into the atmosphere like, thank you
for you know, showing my ends what's going on out here.
(07:02):
I really appreciate that. And then the same light on
the south side of the mountain crew to this alluminous
bright ball, like bigger than it had I've ever seen,
just just me and it whatever it is in the field.
And then then the second it goes away, i'd hear
the door to the portage on closed and my friend
(07:22):
steps out and it's completely not there anymore. And in
the video I could I could send you where I'm
messing around with the night vision goggles. We have like
a laser pin that will kind of like point up
there to show people where the lights are, and you'll
see the laser pin hit and then it'll start doing
(07:42):
some stuff, and then I'll I'll greet it, say thank you,
thank you, and then I start whistling. And the moment
I start whistling, it doesn't seem thin. It just gets bright, aluminous,
and it's everyone in the field is you know, well, wow,
that's me Oh wow. It's like, come on, It's like,
(08:04):
how how many times do you go up there and
then have the same thing happen over and over and
over without it being like you're not winning the lottery
every time you go up there. Right, Just it seems conscious.
It seems like there's a conscious entity to it. And
I had to I had to hike up there myself
just so just to get an idea of like what
(08:26):
it all is, you know, like, well, it has to
be cars or pikers or and you get up there,
you get up to the last road, and you hike
up on the ridgeline where the trees stop, and there's
nothing there. It's just it's like bowl. There's the size
of Volkswagen bugs as far as you can see, and
there's no trails. There's minimal trails, But it's not somebody
(08:51):
with stadium lighting pointing it down at the ranch every
single night of the week on a clear night. It
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I mean, what do you think.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think. I've been reading and researching, if you want
to call it, that, a lot of other similar phenomenon
and it happens about Shasta. I couldn't remember off the
top of my head. But there's a couple other places
along that corridor that it happens. And I've heard a
lot of the native people say that there are ancient
(09:25):
either ancient like spirits of the mountain, protectors of the mountain.
But you never go up there at night because that's
when people don't missing. So I don't know. I really
don't know. I'm not giving up there at night. I
went in there. I went up there at the daytime
and it was amazing. But and then another good point
(09:45):
is once you look down and see the lands from
that that perspective, it just there's no way it's forst
three people. First of all, for three people, I don't
think it'll be up there at night. And then it's
not the off road people, I would say, because it's
like every single night, and that town is pretty small.
(10:09):
There's not a lot going on out there, and it
is kind of us forestry land. So I don't know.
I couldn't tell you what it is, but it seems
to move around. It does move around. I have a
video of it moving around. I have one video where
it seems to be a beam of light is coming
out of the side of one of them, and another
(10:31):
source of light comes off of the first one, and
I don't know. James also has videos and pictures of
the classic saucer looking shaped discs zipping around up there,
and black helicopters and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So do the light stay like a consistent color?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
They're that bright white like, right is the sun light color? Usually?
I mean to the naked eye, they are when I
zoomed the military grade goggles. What's kind of funny, I'll
tell you those goggles don't zoom, so most of the
videos you see on their YouTube and website, it's just
(11:21):
at a wide pan from thirteen miles away. Well, I
took the goggles and I had one of the volunteers
helped me rest it on the lens of my iPad,
and I zumed my iPad way in and you could
see inside these balls of lights. It's different. In one
shot it's multi colored that looks like blue and green
(11:42):
and yellow lights like all within that ball at light
and dancing around. I don't know. It's very strange, but
it's up there every single time I go up there.
And one of the lights this time that was different
than all the other trips. It was way up on
the ice cap in the middle of like the ice
field or a snow field. It was summertime, so I
(12:06):
was assuming the shia ice, like why would you climb
up there? And it was in the middle of the snowfield,
and then within a minute or two it reappeared at
the bottom. And it's like the distance is at least
a mile a mile and a half, you know, like,
how did that light go from there to there at
(12:28):
that elevation in the middle of snow and ice. It
just doesn't make sense. It's not night skiers. And another
funny part about that is that the ball of light
in the ice field on the on the mountain didn't
illuminate the snow or ice itself. So I don't know,
is it is it a national natural phenomenon of some
(12:49):
kind of ball energy thing going on because of what's
inside of the mountain because it's a dormant or the
mountain had blown and it's a lava field is where
the ranch sits of pulling today. But I don't know
when it blew. It's probably hundreds of years ago, because
it looks it just looks natural now, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I mean these kind of lights are seen on
mountains all over the world.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes, yeah, there was one video I taught recently, and
it was in Mexico, But with all the AI stuff
going on, I couldn't really tell if it was, you know,
kind of messed with or and it didn't look anything
like the stuff that I see up there either. This
light in Mexico is like jumping across one valley to another.
(13:41):
You can see the light cast across the mountains. I
don't think that was the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So, whenever you decided that you were going to make
this pilgrimage to the ranch and every thing, what was
that first trip like for you?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
If I remember, I remember, I was real nervous. First
of all. I remember. I think I went with an
ex girlfriend. If I believe light, I remember. And since then,
I've also met someone who who's been going there a
lot longer than I have, and she, as it turns out,
(14:16):
we've been friends for over a decade. She didn't ever
tell me about this stuff that she goes up there,
and she was she is the woman who had first
set up the Galactic wheel and blessed it before they
changed it the second time. And I was sitting with
her one day having lunch, and she found out about
(14:38):
this stuff with me and her, and she asked me, like,
what what did you feel the first time you stepped
onto the property? And the first time I remember it
was just like a wash of this kind of cool,
tingly energy from the nape of my neck down my spine,
over my body. It was very apparent, and it was calming,
(14:59):
and it was bizarre. I didn't expect that that happened
when I got there, and then you check in and
all the people are very nice and sweet. Me and
my girlfriend just they kind of leave you around and
give you a small tour for your first time, and
we just checked it out and it was a little peaceful.
We had a really great time. We saw the lights,
(15:20):
we did the radio show. It was it's kind of
mind blowing. I know, it was everything I wanted to be,
but I wasn't expecting it to be so real. It's like, wow,
and this just happens all the time, Like we just
showed up and then the things that they say happened
happened on a clear night. Keeps out of mind because
I've been up there during firewatch once and it was
(15:44):
stick with smoke. You couldn't see the mountain. You can't
see the mountain, can't You won't see those mysterious lights.
And then of course there's the aerial stuff. The stuff's
cruising around in space or the stratosphere or atmosphere of
the ranch. Not all of it is SpaceX, not all
of it is the iss or satellites. There's definitely things
(16:07):
going on out there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Do you think those things are connected to the lights?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I personally think maybe not. But then again, they have
videos and photos of things like zipping off out of
the mountain at like you know, light speed, So I
don't know. Maybe they cruise across there to refuel. I
don't know. I really like to be kind of a
(16:34):
skeptic in the sense of like figuring it out and
trying to put sense into it, and a lot of
it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's another reoccurring theme with these locations that seem to
have this sort of ball of light for lack of
a better word, energy associated with them. A lot of
times UFOs are seen in the area, and a lot
of times things are seen, like you're saying, apparently zipping
(17:04):
in and out of the mountain itself. And that's something
I've heard, you know, from multiple locations. Not just this
one location that you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, absolutely, it seems to be in a lot of
tribal lands typically I hear. I've got some friends that
some tribesmen and local natives that they say the same
thing down then, I think it's the Pendleton, Oregon area,
just outside of there where they're Yeah, they don't know,
they don't they know. I think they know what they
(17:36):
don't know, you know, like it's above and beyond us.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
So trout Lake, what's going on there? Lots of weird
stuff happens at trout Lake.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah. There there was once an older gentleman that lives
in this neighboring town, Carson, who he was an old
kind of just like an old mountain. Then from what
I hear it, I guess he had something like seventy
three written in a notepad accounts with Sasquatch up there.
(18:08):
And so that was the first thing that top my
ear was skimming the county Carson, and then trout Lake
came into it. And I was in Carson in comedia
doing that kind of stuff when I was younger. Well,
once I got to trout Lake and just I don't know,
I think it's the mountain to be honest, the feeling
of it. It feels different there for some reason. It's
(18:31):
there's volcanic tubes and natural farming geology all over there.
Up near Goose Lake there's the old volcanic tube Native
Ice Cave that the natives used to store all their
their goods in the winter because it's it's it is
so freezing pold in that cave. If you walk down
there with the T shirt and source in the summer,
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you'll be shivering within ten minutes and want to get
the heck out of there. It's just interesting that there's
a lot a lot going on. I think, I think,
I think there must be some kind of energy well
of vortex or whatever it may be connected to that mountain.
It's definitely, it's definitely, definitely has a totally different feeling
(19:17):
of like tranquility, energy, calmness. It's very different there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
What's some of the things that you've experienced there.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It's mostly I guess at the SETI, like the other
gentleman was talking, that's where I seem to see the
most phenomenon, hear the most stuff. I talked to that
strange gentleman that same weekend before that event that was
speaking of synchronicity. He was talking about he was once
(19:48):
related or his mom was. I can't remember all the
details specifically, but I had to do with Indiana, Abraham Lincoln,
a certain street he was born on. His mother worked
for the family. He believes he's like a reincarnate of
the Abraham lineage, and he was. He was very strange
(20:11):
and came to my campsite and in the night he
had this this tumor or this growth thing that made
him look kind of, you know, not so easy on
the eyes. And he saw my son and my nephew
with me. They we're also at that Trout Lake Bigfoot encounter.
(20:32):
That's what I'd like to talk about at some point.
Then they could tell you about what happened that this
old man came up to the camp camp light after
my son and my nephew had gone to sleep, because
he he didn't want to startle them, but he wanted
to talk to talk to me and told me all
about synchronicity and this and that that was that was bizarre.
(20:53):
I kind of look into some of that, some of
that kind of stuff. James Yellow and talked about it
last time I was up there. Actually one gentleman from
Utah that was there on the retreat was talking to
me about a vision that made a vision that he
(21:14):
had had while he was there that manifested back home
when he got home with his daughter, his daughters saw
it and this and that, and you know, when they're
hearing these things from people you don't know who just
opened and eager to come up and talk to you
in this sacred place or you know, spiritual land, it's
just it's kind of just a lot to take in.
(21:35):
But then that evening I went to sleep and I
had what would someone tell it lucid dream, which now
I think is definitely some kind of vision of a
bumblebee that just appeared like coming out of my sleeve
onto my hand, walked to the tip of my finger,
and I just looked at this bumblebee and I was like, hey, friend,
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you know I must know you or something. What you know?
How like what do you need from me? Or how
can I help you? Whatever? And then I just woke up.
And then the very next morning we got to check
out and leave leave camp, and I'm going to take
my nephew and my son to the Wasshego Rivers and
Be's some swimming in one of our family swimming holes
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that we like to go to, and this bumblebee climbs
out of a towel that was in between my son
and my nephew in the backseat, and my son says,
freaking out, Dad, Dad, there's a dad. I look back
and the same exact bumble bee is just sitting on
the towel in the center, just camas can be And
(22:45):
I'm like, bar no, stop, stop, you got it. It's
it's okay. It's just a bumblebe. It's like a little
teddy bear. They don't even sting or bite or anything.
Just he's just warming up, just chilling. Just leave him alone.
And he sat there with my son for at least
forty five minutes. As we drove to the fishing bowl,
everyone got out of the car. I put down my hand.
(23:06):
A little bumblebee crawls right into my hand and onto
my finger, and I'm like, de what I go? I
don't know who you are, but I don't know. I
don't know what this is about. But it's nice to
meet you. I hope you I hope you have a
good day. And I just took put my finger out
to this fir tree and he climbed out of the
fur tree and I stood there with him, and I'm pondering,
(23:28):
like what is going on right now? But I'm also
watching my family play and you know, the swimming whole
life played in as a child, and it just felt good.
I don't know, it didn't scare me. It was just
like what is what the heck? Yeah, that in all
all three of those things, the big Foot encounter is
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I took my son and my nephew initially up to
a SETI to camp because of that encounter. Well not
because of the encounter, but I wanted to take him
to Trout Lake because there was a there's a report
or a sighting one month prior that was posted on
a different Northwest Bigfoot podcast. The guy doesn't do it anymore,
(24:11):
but he posted it and I was like, oh, Trout Lake.
I know where Trout Lakes, said, I go through a
CETI you know, let's go, let's go check it out.
There was just a sighting. So we went out there
just to get the kids out and have some fun.
And you're fishing in the lake. So I don't know
if any of the listeners have been to Trout lake,
but where you park is tiny. The lake is only
(24:34):
something like me to thigh high all the way across.
To my knowledge, I tried to walk across it and
has never gotten deeper. And the trail that runs along
the lake that eventually runs into the it's like a
Christian camp or a koa or something like that. It's
only maybe maybe just over a quarter mile maybe half
(24:58):
a mile long total. And so I take my nephew,
who's seventeen at the time, and my son, who was
nine at the time, down the trail. I assume the
lake stretched out at the end of the trail because
where you park it it's just not very doesn't look
very fishible. The waters really shot up. So we're walking
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along the trail and then I'm doing my best to
kind of educate the kids on like let's let's do
some tracking, like let's look for deer tracks or you know,
I'm trying to get them into the big footing. So
initially I start being trees bent over the trail, but
they're kind of like loose leafy trees. I'm like, well,
(25:41):
maybe it's the snow is bending the things over the trail.
I'm seeing trees snapped and I'm finding foraging trails for
mushroom hunters and deer tracks and me and the kids
are getting into it. And then then my son points
out this big prince. It's a print, and Dad, Dad,
(26:03):
check this out. Dad, look at this, it's big food.
I was like no, no. I'm like, that's why we're here.
But I'm like, no, man, And then I I'm looking
at it, and then of course I pick some of
the bigger leaves out of the shape of it. I'm like, well,
and I'm looking for the second track and I'm not
(26:24):
seeing it, but I'm seeing a tree about five or
six feet from the track, and then up on the
tree in the bark, about six and a half to
seven feet up on the tree, all the bark, in
the shape of like a serving platter, is torn off
this tree. And I'm like, huh, well, it's kind of
(26:48):
tall for like a deer rut. It's way up there,
and why would they do it on a steep bank
of a So I'm like bear like, there's no claw marks,
and all the sine from the barks is on the ground,
fresh and white, like it just happened maybe within a
day half day. I'm messing with the sinew the fibers
(27:12):
and playing with it. I'm like, man, this, I'm looking
at the track. I'm like this, what is going on?
So I take I took my shoe off, put it
next to the track, Go to take a picture. Do
my due diligence. Make sure you know, I gotta get
some photos. I got a picture the trees. I was
taking pictures of stuff. I managed to find the track print,
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but all the other photos are on the old camera.
I got to dig up somewhere. And as I'm putting
my shoe on, and I'm standing there and I'm looking around,
and now I'm just my senses are going. So I'm like,
what's going I hear something up on the little ridge.
It's only it's like right ahead of us. And at
(27:54):
first I thought I was hearing a distant helicopter like
coming over this ridgeline at a distance. Because I heard
that's what it. That's what it sounded like, the very
soft And I looked at my nephew, and my nephew goes,
did you hear that? I was like, I'm like, fuck, okay, fuck,
(28:19):
uh So he heard whatever it was. I heard it.
It didn't think it was what it was because it
was so subtle and soft. And then right when I
look at him and say, yeah, what do you think
it is? I could even get the whole sentence out,
and then it did it again, and it was definitely
not what I thought it was, and it was. It
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was a growl and it was the deepest, most guttural
that who that turned that got louder, so it wasn't
so like the clicks in the throat were tighter this time,
so it was more of a like just I can't
make I can't make the sound because it's to it's difficult.
(29:02):
It was low. It sounded almost similar to like that
when a crocodile does that weird hoick and he printy thing.
And it was so deep, it was so like the
octaves were so deep, and it was growling. It was
a growl, clearly. And then I looked at my nephew
and he looks at me and his pupils do the thing.
(29:24):
My hair stands up. I got goose bumps. I grabbed
him and I grabbed my son by their shirts and
I'm like, go and we start going towards I go,
go that way right now. So we started going towards
the campground, because you can hear kids playing, people making noise,
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and you can see the clearing like, you know, forty
to fifty feet down the trail, like let's go, let's go, go, go,
as if whatever this is going to do something, we're
going to be within earshadow of human beings. So let's go.
And so we start moving and I'm just lo looking back,
looking back, looking back, and so this also the sound
that was coming at us was right in front of us,
(30:09):
but there was nothing there. It wasn't over the ridge.
The ridge was the little ridge line was about. Because
I went back there a few months ago to face
my fears and kind of figure it all out, and
that didn't work. I'll go into that the ridge line
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was only about thirty thirty yards away, so if it
was on the other side, the sound wouldn't hit my ears.
If it was on this side, I would see it
because the trees were about eight to ten feet apart.
In this part of the hillside. There's no underbrush or
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scrub brushers. It's just pine needles. So these trees pine
needles in a hill line, and so when it's growling
at us, it was right in front of us, but
there's nothing, nothing there, and so it's terrifying enough as
it is, but then there's nothing there, but it's there,
but it's nothing there. So we go. We get to
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the edge of the creek that feeds the lake and
we get in the tree like, out of the tree line,
into this clearing. And then I don't want to scare
Baron because he didn't hear the sound the growl. I'm like,
we're just fishing. Let's go, let's go fishing. Well, my
nephew heard it. I heard it. So me and my
nephew are trying to fish this creek with Baron to
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you know, and I'm looking into this hollow where the
the trail starts of the tree line is and I'm
just waiting for something to come out of there. I'm like,
and then about fifteen twenty minutes goes by and our
nerves had kind of calmed down. Nothing that happened, like
(32:02):
all right, well, and then mosquitos started hitting us and
the sun's like barely sitting I'm like, all right, well,
I'm not going through there in the dark, and I
think it just wanted us to leave, and we left.
So well, we got to get back to the car.
So I tell my nephew, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go.
(32:23):
You go in front a baron you keep them between
me and you, and I'm going to be behind you.
And let's go and make make it quick. Don't run,
let's go. And so we're moving and we're moving. And
so where this was was on the top side of
the trail and it's about I don't know, I'd say
(32:45):
it's about like a thirty five degree declined to the
lake as we go up the trail. So then we're
going up the trail, we get to the area where
the thing thing was, the graul was, and I'm just
evil eyeing this area. I'm like, nothing better happen, nothing
gonna happen. And there's nothing there. And I saw between
all the trees and like out there's nothing behind any
(33:08):
of these trees, and this thing when if it is
a fast watch, these trees are only a foot wide,
maybe fifteen sixteen inches some of them, unless it's really skinny,
I don't know. So we get passed. We get just
passed where it's growling at us. And now there's something
downhill in the creek crashing the bushes splashing in the creek,
(33:33):
making all this racket. Clearly it wants to be known
and seen, or wants us to be No, it's there.
And then I stop and get my phone out and
I'm doing the thing. And then my nephew has my
son by the hand, and I'm like, I'm gonna get
this on video. I'm gonna get to some video. I'm
get this on video. I take my camera out. It's
(33:53):
splashing and crashing and do all this stuff, and I'm
and it's this sound once again, is thirty feet away,
and it's right in front of me, in the in
the thick of this bushes in the creek. And so
I let go of my kid's hand. I take like
three steps and I turned my video on on my
phone and it goes silent the second I clicked for nothing.
(34:22):
And then my son is behind me, going, Dad, Dad,
can we go? I want to go? Can we go? Dead?
I want to go. I want to go home. And
I'm like, jeez, all right, yeah. So I turned it
off and I looked at the video. There's there's nothing,
there's nothing. Put the phone in my pocket, grab the kid,
we get the heck out of there. I'm so kind
of shook it up. Like I remember backing into this
(34:44):
big gass rock kind of crunched the inside of my
finger a little bit. Getting out of there, I was like,
I don't care. I don't not care fighting that rock
or whatever. And that was the beginning of the day
before we checked into a city institute, and then all
that other weird stuff happened later. It was a big day.
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That's why I was so compelled then to message you
after during the episode one seventy, I was like, oh, okay,
well it's not just me.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That's so obviously there's a lot of stuff that happens
around this area.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes, yeah, in all the locals that I thought to
say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Why do you have all these different types of phenomenon
taking place in kind of the same area like this.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I think that the Bigfoot thing, now, I was. I
was fully boots from the ground, as they say about
it being you know, kind of like I'll just say
something cheesy, is I'm sure the listeners will like it,
Like if it bleeds, we can kill.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
It, right, I can't be stopped.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
So I was I was like, you know, all this
stuff's happened. I'm going to figure it out too. I'm
going to put my point into the piggy whatever, right
and so, but w apple was growling and I can't
see it and splashing and I can't see it. And
so when I went back up there in May with
(36:17):
my friend this year so that he has a pit
bull that I used to be roommates with him. We're
dear friends. I love his old pit bull, his old
pit bull, Bubba, so I know Bubba would do us right.
I'm like, can you please go with me and fred
Buffa to the place. I don't want to go along,
(36:37):
I really don't. And so we went there and I'm
explaining to him the same thing I just said, and
nothing happened. But I stood in that spot where it
was happening, and I was just I always wanted to
look up in the trees. I never looked up, and
then I literally did a raspberry with my mouth and
I looked up. I was like, yeah, right, it wasn't
(37:02):
up in the trees. There's no branches all the way
up there, and the trees are so skinny up at
the top. There's no way I was up there. And
the sound wasn't up there. It was right here, there's
nowhere for a sound a growl that deep. Even if
it was some animal that is unbeknownst to me. It's
not bigfoot. It would have been big enough to couldn't
(37:23):
hide behind one of these trees, is no way. And
so then we walked to the area where where by
the creek, and then I walked back, and then I
walked over to that area as we're leaving where the
scrub brush it was on the side of the creek
where I think it was in this cluster of bushes,
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and at this time of year, there's no leaves on
the trees in the bushes. So I was standing in
the same position where it was making the noise in
the creek and looking where it was, and it was
right there, like it was so close, but because it
granted the bushes with it. But I was doing that,
(38:05):
you know, kind of like the chicken head thing, moving
my head around, trying to get the light through the
bushes to be a darker in one spot. There's just
I didn't see anything. But then, as you have, you
already know something else happened. Right at that moment when
(38:25):
I started, I'm like, okay, well I didn't get any answers.
So I just started walking the trail back to the truck.
And then right after we leave the area that it
all happened. That you can't hear the creek ripple anymore,
you can't hear the wind rustle softly through the trees,
you can't hear the birds trup anymore, and it went
(38:45):
full on recording studio, dead dead, dead silent. I was like, oh,
oh man, and I just stopped because I'm not gonna move.
I'm just gonna use my ears and my senses. And
then my friend walked up with Bubba. Bubba's not alerted,
so I'm not too alerted. But then I go, do
(39:05):
you notice anything? And he goes, yeah, it's it's so
quiet right here. I go, yeah, we should probably right now.
I go, this is the type of stuff that happens
before the next thing happens. He goes, oh, okay, yeah,
let's get out of here. So we just we just left,
and then I gave them a nice warm of thanks
for not scaring the crap out of my friends again,
(39:30):
and I left. So the next step is to go alone,
and I don't know when that's gonna happen, but eventually
I don't know. I just think, I think, because there's
so much of that WU factor stuff that I've even
experienced some of it, that I think that what's going
on up in Mount Adams and all of that phenomenon
(39:50):
is just I would have to just speculate and go
as far out on a limb as to say it's
some kind of multi dimens thing that we don't have
the cognitive sense to be able to be a part of.
If you, if anybody ever goes up to a city
and does any of the work up there and talks
(40:13):
to change or does any of the the things up there,
they talk about multi dimensional in this ascension theory quite
a lot, so he's he might be the guy to
ask those questions too, but he'll give you a bible's
worth of information of answers.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
So I just don't even know how to begin to
unpack this stuff. I agree about, you know, something clearly
energy based that we can't perceive for some reason until
it hits spectrums that we can you know, see visibly
(40:52):
or hear. And there's just so many of these locations
where it just seems like a concentration of just every
thing weird is going on at the same time exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I feel so lucky to live so close to the spot.
Very fortunately. I take friends up there, and most most
of them are just just like You're like, even when
I show them like this, see you go, yeah, I
don't know. I just I don't know what that is.
They can't wrap their head around it, even when it's
right there. It's very mysterious.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Well, there's so many times that, you know, I've experienced this.
I've talked to so many people that have experienced it.
People talk about, especially in bigfoot stuff, running into a
wall where you're just moving forward and then all of
a sudden, it's like you hit this invisible wall and
everything's different and the atmosphere changes and you can't take
another step forward.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You're terrified whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, and it's almost like how you were talking about
everything going quiet. It's almost like you walk into something
that was streams.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
That never happened to me in all of my camping.
And do you know, I used to do a lot
of the wood knock and WHOOPII do stuff, and I
don't do that anymore because you don't need to think.
I think you know, they just find you if you
want him to find you. They'll find me, right, And
I think some of that intention as well. They don't
(42:20):
want to find everybody. But yeah, when it happened, I
heard like I remember looking at the creek and hearing
the creek, and then not hearing the creek. I've been
hunting and fishing with. My father is since passed, but
my whole life. And also keep keep in mind a
(42:41):
little fun fact. My dad was my dad's Lakota Sue.
I have a certain degree of Lakota Sue blood. He
was raised on the reservation for a period of time.
He taught me a lot about all of that stuff
through spoken word, and I don't maybe I'm attracting that stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Do you think that some people do.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I definitely do think some people do, for sure. Some
of the people I've met up there at the City Institute, Yeah,
they're different for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
What you're talking about, like everything going quiet, I mean
there's times when you're out in the woods and something
alerts the wildlife of your presence, or a predator enters
the area and you may not even see it. It
could just be a dog or a cat or something,
and everything goes quiet. The insects stop, the birds stop,
(43:37):
everything goes quiet like you're talking about. However, creeks don't
stop running.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
That's the thing. That's the thing that was weird. Because
I heard the creek, and because I was listening, I
was once again on high alert listening and sensing, and
with all the tracking experience and hunting and talking experience
that I had as a young man with my father, like,
I'm paying in a little gemitism, I'm paying close attention
(44:07):
to stuff. And yeah, I was staring right at the
creek and not hearing the creek, and it wasn't that
far away. That's why I was like, oh, oh, this
is different. That's why I just stopped. I wasn't afraid
to keep moving. I just stopped so I could keep listening.
And that's when my friend walked up. My friend was
(44:29):
probably fifteen keet behind me, so it only took a
few seconds for him to walk up. And then I
definitely asked first. I didn't let him sing anything first,
just because I wanted him to if he didn't notice,
I wanted him to notice, like Katie, he knows anything, yes, yes, yeah,
it's really really you can't hear anything. It's so quiet.
(44:49):
I'm like, yep, we gotta go. Time to go.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
There is another guy I had on the podcast a
while back. It's been a long time, and he was
out hunting and he had an encounter where at first,
if I remember, he heard something kind of paralleling him,
(45:17):
and then ultimately what happened was something screamed at him,
screamed slash roared. He compared it. He was like, it
was the loudest vocalization.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Like it made my ears ring. It was so loud,
and it was right in front of him and he
couldn't see anything.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Wow, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
He's like, there's no where this thing could have been hiding.
It was so close that it you know, it was
literally rattling me as it roared. Yeah, there's no cover
of any kind. I mean it's right there. I know
it's right there, and I'm looking all over and there's
just nothing there.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
And I'm sure he's in a state of Chakler's eyes
are wide.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Oh yeah, he's hunting. He's hunting. He's he's on full alert,
you know, and it definitely changed his life. But yeah,
there's these reports like you're talking about, like the same
exact thing that you experienced where there's something right there
making noise, but you just you can't see it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I tattooed a woman a few weeks ago. She'll actually
be listening to this. I mentioned that we were going
to have an interview. She had an encounter at Mount
Adams at Goose Lake, or near Goose Lake, she said,
at the elk camp, or her family elk camps in
the winter, but they were camping in the summer for
fun and having family times around the bonfire. She said
(46:50):
that they heard a fresh evergreen tree go down near them,
like snap, snap, buckled pal you know, like not dead,
and it got pushed or fell directly over the road
that leads into that camp, the only road in. And
(47:12):
so the men in the family, she said, well, we
gotta go see what that was, and they said they
went and found it, and sure enough, it's a fully
alive tree, snapped and pushed over that the whole road.
Luckily they had chainsaws and saws and stuff to get up.
But then that's beside the point. Then, they said the
(47:33):
men alerted other people and said that they saw eye
shine up in the tree, up behind a tree in
the in the tree line, and she said, she looks
she said she couldn't see anything. She wasn't seeing whatever
they were seeing. But she's she said that they swear
that they saw eyes big guys up in the tree
(47:56):
right after that occurrence. So I don't know. There's just
a lot of stuff like that that happens up there.
Another guy I talked to through a different channel, he's
a local fish and wildlife game warden for the local
fisheries and stuff. He said he was out doing some
(48:18):
They send them out to do some kind of I
don't know what it is, field work sometimes in remote locations,
and he said he saw a large harry seven to
eight foot upright walking thing. He said, he got into
this area near this creek and he startled it and
it stood up and walked off through the brush. And
this guy works for the fishery department. So I don't know.
(48:42):
There's so many stories up here of that stuff going on.
There's something going on.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Do you hear a lot of stories like your tattoo shop.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I ask anybody that if we can get into certain
knowledge about stuff or certain you know, if they're a hunter, Yeah,
if I basically ask them questions about themselves to try
to kind of distract them from the process because it
helps a lot, you know, as I get to know people,
if they say anything about they fish a lot, hunt
(49:17):
a lot, el elk camp up in the mountains, blah
blah blah, I'm definitely asking them, and I a lot
of them say no, A lot of some of them
say yeah, they've heard some wild screams in the woods.
They couldn't tell, but that could you know, there's there's
certain animals like mountain lion scream, certain I think certain
(49:38):
owl screams can kind of certainly sound spooky in the night,
but you can tell them apart.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, and then if they're getting like a big foot tattoo,
I would assume that, Oh.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, I love the big Foot. These for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Do you hear any dog man stories?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
No, nuts, No, No, I'm always curious about that happening
in this area. Like I think I've heard of one
or two on different channels maybe, but I haven't heard
a person specifically say they had encountered anything like that
in this area.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I know people are going to leave comments and correct
me on this, but you don't hear many dog man
stories from the Pacific Northwest?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
No, No, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, But like Mount Adams and Mount Shasta both. There's
just so much weird stuff going on in so much
history involving the mountains themselves.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I haven't been to Mount Shasty yet. A friend of
mine that's been there says he sees similar things that
are on Mount Adams, because I brought him up there
to Mount Adams to show him my version, and he
was saying, they're very similar. The phenomenon, that light phenomenon, Yeah,
who Yeah, it could be natural, but it doesn't. It
(51:04):
just does not seem to fall into the natural category
with me when it comes to all the times that
I've been there where it's when you talk to it,
it's always when you vocalize towards it, it responds. Me
and me and a few friends were up there. It
was the same weekend that you aired one seventy eight.
(51:27):
It was that weekend I had. I heard a friend
of mine, childhood friend of mine up there and him
and his wife and yeah, we it was just the
four of us. I think up there that like no
one and no one was camping. It's just us, and
the lights were only responding when we were like having
(51:49):
our own conversations and being jovial and laughing and telling
funny stories. Then the lights would go off and it'll
be like, oh, oh, here they are, here they are.
Then we'd stop talking, and then it'll stop and we
just wait and nothing happened. And then eventually somebody would
say something that would lead to another and we start
laughing again. In the boom, it's all back twinkling on
(52:11):
the mountain again when we're laughing then, and then even
my friend's wife was say, it only does that when
we're all talking and laughing. It's pretty strange.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Buddy of mind.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Actually, the artist that did my logo art, Jonathan Dodd,
shout out to the Dodd Brothers. He experienced he saw
some strange lights and basically the exact opposite side of
the United States.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
From where you're at.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
With some other people, and he was talking about how
these weird or black lights seemed to have intelligence and
consciousness to them as well and was responding to their actions.
It seems to be sort of with some of the
witnesses with these type of lights having some sort of
(53:07):
I don't know, reaction, like an actual reaction and response
to the people observing them at the time, which I
how would that even work? I mean, because you're seeing
these things, how far away are they when you're looking
at them?
Speaker 3 (53:20):
If you had to.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Guess exactly the lights on not Adams are exactly thirteen
miles away from where we stand in the field at
James's property. That's why I had to climb up there
and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
I mean, that's nuts, Yeah, I mean, first off, I
don't even understand how something thirteen miles away could somehow
respond to you. But then let's look at it from
the skeptical perspective. Let's say that somebody's just up on
the mountain messing with you. How would they know what
(54:00):
you're saying and what you're doing thirteen miles away?
Speaker 1 (54:03):
And even if you were to manage to get a
drone or something with a brighten the light would have
to be bright enough. Think about shining a flashlight thirteen
miles away as someone and how that would look, Or
putting the brightest light bar on your canopy and then
(54:24):
shining it thirteen miles and then calling someone being like, hey,
can you see me? And flashing it. What's the likelihood
you could even see it? And then what's the likelihood
it would be? It definitely would not be as bright
as what we're seeing up there. These lights are so
bright to the naked eye thirteen miles away. It has
(54:46):
to be some kind of massive amount of energy. And
the strangest part is is that light that was in
the ice patch, the snow patch. If anything that right
was being illuminated up there, you would think it would
light up that entire spats of snow because it is
(55:06):
white in the night time, you know, But it doesn't
do that. It's just it doesn't do that. It's almost
like it's its own energy source that doesn't cast physical
light in its realm, if that makes any kind of sense.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Not at all, you know, but I know what you mean, like, yeah,
that's so weird.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
That's just kind of stuff that you think think it's
something else. It's not natural.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
And it's like traversing across mountainous territory just smoothly without
any problems, huge distances at a time. And it's been
going on forever.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah, forever. Why aren't the what's that place, the Skinwalker Ranch?
Why aren't those guys up there now, Adams, it's every
night you have to you have to shoot stuff in
the air and do all this weird techno geek crap
to like figure it out. It's just there. I dare
then just freaking go up there in the night time
(56:11):
and figure it out. I really appreciate it. Yeah. I've
been wanting to tell some of these stories, but no
one seemed to reach out, And this is the perfect opportunity.
So I thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
Synchronicity man. Oh one more thing. Uh, I didn't like
ask you if you wanted to, like, you know, say
your name or whatever, but like, if you want to
shout out your tattoo shop.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Oh yeah, for sure, dragon Fly Tattoo Vancouver, Washington can
get a big Foot tattoo or alien tattoo or whatever.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Yeah. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
If you've had your own encounter with bigfoot, strange lights,
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one place. And until next time, remember there's something in
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the woods.
When I first saw the lights at the tree line
that seemed to move and they interact. It's interesting. I've
had experiences with the lights where I'm the only one
in the field. Like a friend of mine was with me.
He went to the bathroom for a few minutes, and
I just kind of openly spoke into the atmosphere, like
thank you for you know, showing my friends what's going
(00:22):
on out here. I really appreciate that. And then the
same light on the south side of the mountain karu
to a luma's bright ball, like bigger than it had
I've ever seen, just just me and it, whatever it is.
And you get up there, you get up to the
last road, and you hiked up on the ridgeline where
the trees stop, and there's nothing there. There's multiple as
(01:15):
setis around the world. There's one in Australia, I think, Japan, Hawaii.
James owns the one in Hawaii, and the Mount Lake
or Mount Adam's Trout Lake location. And they're not all
connected either, some of them. Some of them are just
from other people, you know, like I think that guy
doctor Stephen Greer or something. I think he's all about
(01:36):
that stuff. I know he is, and I tried this
app and he's he's kind of I don't know. I
definitely believe in what's going on with his side of things,
because it's very much the same, except for we have
our own Pacific Northwest kind of hippie edition where if
you are out there, it's just it's very it's very
(01:58):
kind of like I don't know if you've been to
the area up here, but it feels feels like something
that would be in Eugene, Oregon, like very very grateful,
daddy hippie. Everything's homemade, but it's nice. The people are nice.
They're all spiritually kind of aligned, no matter what their denomination.
A lot of meditation, a lot of spoken words stuff.
(02:19):
James does his podcast there every Sunday during the summer
and you can sit in with him. I've done it
a bunch of times. I found out about that place
during my apprenticeship as a young tattooer in a local
like kind of an adjoining town to Skimania County, which
is I'm sure you know Scimunita County. Well, this this
(02:43):
van pulls up and it says Seattle Paranormal and UFO
Investigation Unit, and my sister happened to be in the
tattoo shop at the time, just kind of hanging out,
and I was like, go, you have I go. They
walked out, way go see what they're doing, like right now,
And so she came back and she tracked them down
(03:05):
and said that they said that there was ninety five
reports of UFO activity in trout Lake, Washington the night before. Wow,
And I'm like, what that? What is? Where is trout Lake? What? Like?
I didn't even know where it was or what it
was or anything. And that was two thousand and two,
so before the kind of the dawn of the Internet.
(03:27):
So there's no YouTube, there's no Google, there's no nothing.
So I couldn't figure it out. I just kind of
had to sit on it like okay, well, and then
YouTube happened, and then slowly things started and Google was
going on. Slowly. I was finding out that there's this
is SETI place up there and they have all these photos.
I'm like, well, that must be what's going on and
(03:48):
these people are onto something. And then then I found
out you could visit yourself in the summertime if you
pre register for camping, do the SkyWatch weekend and all that.
So I've just been doing that for a little over
ten years, just going out there every summer once or
twice a year, checking out the ranch and just it's
(04:10):
always consistent as it's interesting. So that's where it all began.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So like, obviously the van caught your attention, so you
were already interested in that sort of stuff. Where did
that interest stem from?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, I just I always kind of had this inclination
that there was more than us going on, and I'm
and then just from paying attention, I was kind of
I still am very much like an autist in the
sense of I have a very photographic memory. It goes
back to when I was like two and a half
years old. I just I noticed things and they stay
(04:50):
in there forever, like just the world, society, the public history, this,
that religion. I'm like, you know, maybe it was this,
Maybe it was where some advanced civilization and maybe well,
I don't know. And then I started reading books on
alien stuff. And then once I found that little section
(05:11):
in the library when I was I don't know, maybe
eight or nine ten, maybe with lockness and Bigfoot and
YETI and all the stuff, I checked out most of
the books, read all those books. My mom took notice.
She bought me this peculiarium, Tales of the Bizarre. It
(05:31):
basically was like an encyclopedia of every strange thing that
can happen on the planet. Like, oh no, just fascinated
with things on this earth that don't really check out,
but that didn't have kind of like a scientific backing
to them. Some stuff is just kind of whatever it was.
I'm very much like I have to see it with
(05:53):
my own eyes, you know. So I've been going up
there trying to figure this all out, and it's been interesting,
just the coalation of everything and how up in Mount
Adams when I go through this kind of stuff, I
try to explain it away, like, no, it was this.
So I when I first saw the lights at the
tree line that seemed to move and they interact like
(06:17):
we do the meditation in the Ezekiel Hall, and everyone
would go out to the field and Jeames has a
bunch of really fun you know, telescopes and night vision
and these military grade goggles and we mess around with those,
and it's interesting. I've had experiences with the lights where
(06:41):
I'm the only one in the field, Like a friend
of mine was with me that I brought from Seattle
who's kind of into the similar stuff, and he went
to the bathroom for a few minutes, and I just
kind of openly spoke into the atmosphere like, thank you
for you know, showing my ends what's going on out here.
(07:02):
I really appreciate that. And then the same light on
the south side of the mountain crew to this alluminous
bright ball, like bigger than it had I've ever seen,
just just me and it whatever it is in the field.
And then then the second it goes away, i'd hear
the door to the portage on closed and my friend
(07:22):
steps out and it's completely not there anymore. And in
the video I could I could send you where I'm
messing around with the night vision goggles. We have like
a laser pin that will kind of like point up
there to show people where the lights are, and you'll
see the laser pin hit and then it'll start doing
(07:42):
some stuff, and then I'll I'll greet it, say thank you,
thank you, and then I start whistling. And the moment
I start whistling, it doesn't seem thin. It just gets bright, aluminous,
and it's everyone in the field is you know, well, wow,
that's me Oh wow. It's like, come on, It's like,
(08:04):
how how many times do you go up there and
then have the same thing happen over and over and
over without it being like you're not winning the lottery
every time you go up there. Right, Just it seems conscious.
It seems like there's a conscious entity to it. And
I had to I had to hike up there myself
just so just to get an idea of like what
(08:26):
it all is, you know, like, well, it has to
be cars or pikers or and you get up there,
you get up to the last road, and you hike
up on the ridgeline where the trees stop, and there's
nothing there. It's just it's like bowl. There's the size
of Volkswagen bugs as far as you can see, and
there's no trails. There's minimal trails, But it's not somebody
(08:51):
with stadium lighting pointing it down at the ranch every
single night of the week on a clear night. It
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I mean, what do you think.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think. I've been reading and researching, if you want
to call it, that, a lot of other similar phenomenon
and it happens about Shasta. I couldn't remember off the
top of my head. But there's a couple other places
along that corridor that it happens. And I've heard a
lot of the native people say that there are ancient
(09:25):
either ancient like spirits of the mountain, protectors of the mountain.
But you never go up there at night because that's
when people don't missing. So I don't know. I really
don't know. I'm not giving up there at night. I
went in there. I went up there at the daytime
and it was amazing. But and then another good point
(09:45):
is once you look down and see the lands from
that that perspective, it just there's no way it's forst
three people. First of all, for three people, I don't
think it'll be up there at night. And then it's
not the off road people, I would say, because it's
like every single night, and that town is pretty small.
(10:09):
There's not a lot going on out there, and it
is kind of us forestry land. So I don't know.
I couldn't tell you what it is, but it seems
to move around. It does move around. I have a
video of it moving around. I have one video where
it seems to be a beam of light is coming
out of the side of one of them, and another
(10:31):
source of light comes off of the first one, and
I don't know. James also has videos and pictures of
the classic saucer looking shaped discs zipping around up there,
and black helicopters and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So do the light stay like a consistent color?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
They're that bright white like, right is the sun light color? Usually?
I mean to the naked eye, they are when I
zoomed the military grade goggles. What's kind of funny, I'll
tell you those goggles don't zoom, so most of the
videos you see on their YouTube and website, it's just
(11:21):
at a wide pan from thirteen miles away. Well, I
took the goggles and I had one of the volunteers
helped me rest it on the lens of my iPad,
and I zumed my iPad way in and you could
see inside these balls of lights. It's different. In one
shot it's multi colored that looks like blue and green
(11:42):
and yellow lights like all within that ball at light
and dancing around. I don't know. It's very strange, but
it's up there every single time I go up there.
And one of the lights this time that was different
than all the other trips. It was way up on
the ice cap in the middle of like the ice
field or a snow field. It was summertime, so I
(12:06):
was assuming the shia ice, like why would you climb
up there? And it was in the middle of the snowfield,
and then within a minute or two it reappeared at
the bottom. And it's like the distance is at least
a mile a mile and a half, you know, like,
how did that light go from there to there at
(12:28):
that elevation in the middle of snow and ice. It
just doesn't make sense. It's not night skiers. And another
funny part about that is that the ball of light
in the ice field on the on the mountain didn't
illuminate the snow or ice itself. So I don't know,
is it is it a national natural phenomenon of some
(12:49):
kind of ball energy thing going on because of what's
inside of the mountain because it's a dormant or the
mountain had blown and it's a lava field is where
the ranch sits of pulling today. But I don't know
when it blew. It's probably hundreds of years ago, because
it looks it just looks natural now, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I mean these kind of lights are seen on
mountains all over the world.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes, yeah, there was one video I taught recently, and
it was in Mexico, But with all the AI stuff
going on, I couldn't really tell if it was, you know,
kind of messed with or and it didn't look anything
like the stuff that I see up there either. This
light in Mexico is like jumping across one valley to another.
(13:41):
You can see the light cast across the mountains. I
don't think that was the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So, whenever you decided that you were going to make
this pilgrimage to the ranch and every thing, what was
that first trip like for you?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
If I remember, I remember, I was real nervous. First
of all. I remember. I think I went with an
ex girlfriend. If I believe light, I remember. And since then,
I've also met someone who who's been going there a
lot longer than I have, and she, as it turns out,
(14:16):
we've been friends for over a decade. She didn't ever
tell me about this stuff that she goes up there,
and she was she is the woman who had first
set up the Galactic wheel and blessed it before they
changed it the second time. And I was sitting with
her one day having lunch, and she found out about
(14:38):
this stuff with me and her, and she asked me, like,
what what did you feel the first time you stepped
onto the property? And the first time I remember it
was just like a wash of this kind of cool,
tingly energy from the nape of my neck down my spine,
over my body. It was very apparent, and it was calming,
(14:59):
and it was bizarre. I didn't expect that that happened
when I got there, and then you check in and
all the people are very nice and sweet. Me and
my girlfriend just they kind of leave you around and
give you a small tour for your first time, and
we just checked it out and it was a little peaceful.
We had a really great time. We saw the lights,
(15:20):
we did the radio show. It was it's kind of
mind blowing. I know, it was everything I wanted to be,
but I wasn't expecting it to be so real. It's like, wow,
and this just happens all the time, Like we just
showed up and then the things that they say happened
happened on a clear night. Keeps out of mind because
I've been up there during firewatch once and it was
(15:44):
stick with smoke. You couldn't see the mountain. You can't
see the mountain, can't You won't see those mysterious lights.
And then of course there's the aerial stuff. The stuff's
cruising around in space or the stratosphere or atmosphere of
the ranch. Not all of it is SpaceX, not all
of it is the iss or satellites. There's definitely things
(16:07):
going on out there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Do you think those things are connected to the lights?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I personally think maybe not. But then again, they have
videos and photos of things like zipping off out of
the mountain at like you know, light speed, So I
don't know. Maybe they cruise across there to refuel. I
don't know. I really like to be kind of a
(16:34):
skeptic in the sense of like figuring it out and
trying to put sense into it, and a lot of
it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's another reoccurring theme with these locations that seem to
have this sort of ball of light for lack of
a better word, energy associated with them. A lot of
times UFOs are seen in the area, and a lot
of times things are seen, like you're saying, apparently zipping
(17:04):
in and out of the mountain itself. And that's something
I've heard, you know, from multiple locations. Not just this
one location that you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, absolutely, it seems to be in a lot of
tribal lands typically I hear. I've got some friends that
some tribesmen and local natives that they say the same
thing down then, I think it's the Pendleton, Oregon area,
just outside of there where they're Yeah, they don't know,
they don't they know. I think they know what they
(17:36):
don't know, you know, like it's above and beyond us.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
So trout Lake, what's going on there? Lots of weird
stuff happens at trout Lake.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah. There there was once an older gentleman that lives
in this neighboring town, Carson, who he was an old
kind of just like an old mountain. Then from what
I hear it, I guess he had something like seventy
three written in a notepad accounts with Sasquatch up there.
(18:08):
And so that was the first thing that top my
ear was skimming the county Carson, and then trout Lake
came into it. And I was in Carson in comedia
doing that kind of stuff when I was younger. Well,
once I got to trout Lake and just I don't know,
I think it's the mountain to be honest, the feeling
of it. It feels different there for some reason. It's
(18:31):
there's volcanic tubes and natural farming geology all over there.
Up near Goose Lake there's the old volcanic tube Native
Ice Cave that the natives used to store all their
their goods in the winter because it's it's it is
so freezing pold in that cave. If you walk down
there with the T shirt and source in the summer,
(18:54):
you'll be shivering within ten minutes and want to get
the heck out of there. It's just interesting that there's
a lot a lot going on. I think, I think,
I think there must be some kind of energy well
of vortex or whatever it may be connected to that mountain.
It's definitely, it's definitely, definitely has a totally different feeling
(19:17):
of like tranquility, energy, calmness. It's very different there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
What's some of the things that you've experienced there.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It's mostly I guess at the SETI, like the other
gentleman was talking, that's where I seem to see the
most phenomenon, hear the most stuff. I talked to that
strange gentleman that same weekend before that event that was
speaking of synchronicity. He was talking about he was once
(19:48):
related or his mom was. I can't remember all the
details specifically, but I had to do with Indiana, Abraham Lincoln,
a certain street he was born on. His mother worked
for the family. He believes he's like a reincarnate of
the Abraham lineage, and he was. He was very strange
(20:11):
and came to my campsite and in the night he
had this this tumor or this growth thing that made
him look kind of, you know, not so easy on
the eyes. And he saw my son and my nephew
with me. They we're also at that Trout Lake Bigfoot encounter.
(20:32):
That's what I'd like to talk about at some point.
Then they could tell you about what happened that this
old man came up to the camp camp light after
my son and my nephew had gone to sleep, because
he he didn't want to startle them, but he wanted
to talk to talk to me and told me all
about synchronicity and this and that that was that was bizarre.
(20:53):
I kind of look into some of that, some of
that kind of stuff. James Yellow and talked about it
last time I was up there. Actually one gentleman from
Utah that was there on the retreat was talking to
me about a vision that made a vision that he
(21:14):
had had while he was there that manifested back home
when he got home with his daughter, his daughters saw
it and this and that, and you know, when they're
hearing these things from people you don't know who just
opened and eager to come up and talk to you
in this sacred place or you know, spiritual land, it's
just it's kind of just a lot to take in.
(21:35):
But then that evening I went to sleep and I
had what would someone tell it lucid dream, which now
I think is definitely some kind of vision of a
bumblebee that just appeared like coming out of my sleeve
onto my hand, walked to the tip of my finger,
and I just looked at this bumblebee and I was like, hey, friend,
(21:59):
you know I must know you or something. What you know?
How like what do you need from me? Or how
can I help you? Whatever? And then I just woke up.
And then the very next morning we got to check
out and leave leave camp, and I'm going to take
my nephew and my son to the Wasshego Rivers and
Be's some swimming in one of our family swimming holes
(22:21):
that we like to go to, and this bumblebee climbs
out of a towel that was in between my son
and my nephew in the backseat, and my son says,
freaking out, Dad, Dad, there's a dad. I look back
and the same exact bumble bee is just sitting on
the towel in the center, just camas can be And
(22:45):
I'm like, bar no, stop, stop, you got it. It's
it's okay. It's just a bumblebe. It's like a little
teddy bear. They don't even sting or bite or anything.
Just he's just warming up, just chilling. Just leave him alone.
And he sat there with my son for at least
forty five minutes. As we drove to the fishing bowl,
everyone got out of the car. I put down my hand.
(23:06):
A little bumblebee crawls right into my hand and onto
my finger, and I'm like, de what I go? I
don't know who you are, but I don't know. I
don't know what this is about. But it's nice to
meet you. I hope you I hope you have a
good day. And I just took put my finger out
to this fir tree and he climbed out of the
fur tree and I stood there with him, and I'm pondering,
(23:28):
like what is going on right now? But I'm also
watching my family play and you know, the swimming whole
life played in as a child, and it just felt good.
I don't know, it didn't scare me. It was just
like what is what the heck? Yeah, that in all
all three of those things, the big Foot encounter is
(23:49):
I took my son and my nephew initially up to
a SETI to camp because of that encounter. Well not
because of the encounter, but I wanted to take him
to Trout Lake because there was a there's a report
or a sighting one month prior that was posted on
a different Northwest Bigfoot podcast. The guy doesn't do it anymore,
(24:11):
but he posted it and I was like, oh, Trout Lake.
I know where Trout Lakes, said, I go through a
CETI you know, let's go, let's go check it out.
There was just a sighting. So we went out there
just to get the kids out and have some fun.
And you're fishing in the lake. So I don't know
if any of the listeners have been to Trout lake,
but where you park is tiny. The lake is only
(24:34):
something like me to thigh high all the way across.
To my knowledge, I tried to walk across it and
has never gotten deeper. And the trail that runs along
the lake that eventually runs into the it's like a
Christian camp or a koa or something like that. It's
only maybe maybe just over a quarter mile maybe half
(24:58):
a mile long total. And so I take my nephew,
who's seventeen at the time, and my son, who was
nine at the time, down the trail. I assume the
lake stretched out at the end of the trail because
where you park it it's just not very doesn't look
very fishible. The waters really shot up. So we're walking
(25:21):
along the trail and then I'm doing my best to
kind of educate the kids on like let's let's do
some tracking, like let's look for deer tracks or you know,
I'm trying to get them into the big footing. So
initially I start being trees bent over the trail, but
they're kind of like loose leafy trees. I'm like, well,
(25:41):
maybe it's the snow is bending the things over the trail.
I'm seeing trees snapped and I'm finding foraging trails for
mushroom hunters and deer tracks and me and the kids
are getting into it. And then then my son points
out this big prince. It's a print, and Dad, Dad,
(26:03):
check this out. Dad, look at this, it's big food.
I was like no, no. I'm like, that's why we're here.
But I'm like, no, man, And then I I'm looking
at it, and then of course I pick some of
the bigger leaves out of the shape of it. I'm like, well,
and I'm looking for the second track and I'm not
(26:24):
seeing it, but I'm seeing a tree about five or
six feet from the track, and then up on the
tree in the bark, about six and a half to
seven feet up on the tree, all the bark, in
the shape of like a serving platter, is torn off
this tree. And I'm like, huh, well, it's kind of
(26:48):
tall for like a deer rut. It's way up there,
and why would they do it on a steep bank
of a So I'm like bear like, there's no claw marks,
and all the sine from the barks is on the ground,
fresh and white, like it just happened maybe within a
day half day. I'm messing with the sinew the fibers
(27:12):
and playing with it. I'm like, man, this, I'm looking
at the track. I'm like this, what is going on?
So I take I took my shoe off, put it
next to the track, Go to take a picture. Do
my due diligence. Make sure you know, I gotta get
some photos. I got a picture the trees. I was
taking pictures of stuff. I managed to find the track print,
(27:33):
but all the other photos are on the old camera.
I got to dig up somewhere. And as I'm putting
my shoe on, and I'm standing there and I'm looking around,
and now I'm just my senses are going. So I'm like,
what's going I hear something up on the little ridge.
It's only it's like right ahead of us. And at
(27:54):
first I thought I was hearing a distant helicopter like
coming over this ridgeline at a distance. Because I heard
that's what it. That's what it sounded like, the very
soft And I looked at my nephew, and my nephew goes,
did you hear that? I was like, I'm like, fuck, okay, fuck,
(28:19):
uh So he heard whatever it was. I heard it.
It didn't think it was what it was because it
was so subtle and soft. And then right when I
look at him and say, yeah, what do you think
it is? I could even get the whole sentence out,
and then it did it again, and it was definitely
not what I thought it was, and it was. It
(28:40):
was a growl and it was the deepest, most guttural
that who that turned that got louder, so it wasn't
so like the clicks in the throat were tighter this time,
so it was more of a like just I can't
make I can't make the sound because it's to it's difficult.
(29:02):
It was low. It sounded almost similar to like that
when a crocodile does that weird hoick and he printy thing.
And it was so deep, it was so like the
octaves were so deep, and it was growling. It was
a growl, clearly. And then I looked at my nephew
and he looks at me and his pupils do the thing.
(29:24):
My hair stands up. I got goose bumps. I grabbed
him and I grabbed my son by their shirts and
I'm like, go and we start going towards I go,
go that way right now. So we started going towards
the campground, because you can hear kids playing, people making noise,
(29:45):
and you can see the clearing like, you know, forty
to fifty feet down the trail, like let's go, let's go, go, go,
as if whatever this is going to do something, we're
going to be within earshadow of human beings. So let's go.
And so we start moving and I'm just lo looking back,
looking back, looking back, and so this also the sound
that was coming at us was right in front of us,
(30:09):
but there was nothing there. It wasn't over the ridge.
The ridge was the little ridge line was about. Because
I went back there a few months ago to face
my fears and kind of figure it all out, and
that didn't work. I'll go into that the ridge line
(30:34):
was only about thirty thirty yards away, so if it
was on the other side, the sound wouldn't hit my ears.
If it was on this side, I would see it
because the trees were about eight to ten feet apart.
In this part of the hillside. There's no underbrush or
(30:55):
scrub brushers. It's just pine needles. So these trees pine
needles in a hill line, and so when it's growling
at us, it was right in front of us, but
there's nothing, nothing there, and so it's terrifying enough as
it is, but then there's nothing there, but it's there,
but it's nothing there. So we go. We get to
(31:17):
the edge of the creek that feeds the lake and
we get in the tree like, out of the tree line,
into this clearing. And then I don't want to scare
Baron because he didn't hear the sound the growl. I'm like,
we're just fishing. Let's go, let's go fishing. Well, my
nephew heard it. I heard it. So me and my
nephew are trying to fish this creek with Baron to
(31:38):
you know, and I'm looking into this hollow where the
the trail starts of the tree line is and I'm
just waiting for something to come out of there. I'm like,
and then about fifteen twenty minutes goes by and our
nerves had kind of calmed down. Nothing that happened, like
(32:02):
all right, well, and then mosquitos started hitting us and
the sun's like barely sitting I'm like, all right, well,
I'm not going through there in the dark, and I
think it just wanted us to leave, and we left.
So well, we got to get back to the car.
So I tell my nephew, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go.
(32:23):
You go in front a baron you keep them between
me and you, and I'm going to be behind you.
And let's go and make make it quick. Don't run,
let's go. And so we're moving and we're moving. And
so where this was was on the top side of
the trail and it's about I don't know, I'd say
(32:45):
it's about like a thirty five degree declined to the
lake as we go up the trail. So then we're
going up the trail, we get to the area where
the thing thing was, the graul was, and I'm just
evil eyeing this area. I'm like, nothing better happen, nothing
gonna happen. And there's nothing there. And I saw between
all the trees and like out there's nothing behind any
(33:08):
of these trees, and this thing when if it is
a fast watch, these trees are only a foot wide,
maybe fifteen sixteen inches some of them, unless it's really skinny,
I don't know. So we get passed. We get just
passed where it's growling at us. And now there's something
downhill in the creek crashing the bushes splashing in the creek,
(33:33):
making all this racket. Clearly it wants to be known
and seen, or wants us to be No, it's there.
And then I stop and get my phone out and
I'm doing the thing. And then my nephew has my
son by the hand, and I'm like, I'm gonna get
this on video. I'm gonna get to some video. I'm
get this on video. I take my camera out. It's
(33:53):
splashing and crashing and do all this stuff, and I'm
and it's this sound once again, is thirty feet away,
and it's right in front of me, in the in
the thick of this bushes in the creek. And so
I let go of my kid's hand. I take like
three steps and I turned my video on on my
phone and it goes silent the second I clicked for nothing.
(34:22):
And then my son is behind me, going, Dad, Dad,
can we go? I want to go? Can we go? Dead?
I want to go. I want to go home. And
I'm like, jeez, all right, yeah. So I turned it
off and I looked at the video. There's there's nothing,
there's nothing. Put the phone in my pocket, grab the kid,
we get the heck out of there. I'm so kind
of shook it up. Like I remember backing into this
(34:44):
big gass rock kind of crunched the inside of my
finger a little bit. Getting out of there, I was like,
I don't care. I don't not care fighting that rock
or whatever. And that was the beginning of the day
before we checked into a city institute, and then all
that other weird stuff happened later. It was a big day.
(35:05):
That's why I was so compelled then to message you
after during the episode one seventy, I was like, oh, okay,
well it's not just me.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That's so obviously there's a lot of stuff that happens
around this area.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes, yeah, in all the locals that I thought to
say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Why do you have all these different types of phenomenon
taking place in kind of the same area like this.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I think that the Bigfoot thing, now, I was. I
was fully boots from the ground, as they say about
it being you know, kind of like I'll just say
something cheesy, is I'm sure the listeners will like it,
Like if it bleeds, we can kill.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
It, right, I can't be stopped.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
So I was I was like, you know, all this
stuff's happened. I'm going to figure it out too. I'm
going to put my point into the piggy whatever, right
and so, but w apple was growling and I can't
see it and splashing and I can't see it. And
so when I went back up there in May with
(36:17):
my friend this year so that he has a pit
bull that I used to be roommates with him. We're
dear friends. I love his old pit bull, his old
pit bull, Bubba, so I know Bubba would do us right.
I'm like, can you please go with me and fred
Buffa to the place. I don't want to go along,
(36:37):
I really don't. And so we went there and I'm
explaining to him the same thing I just said, and
nothing happened. But I stood in that spot where it
was happening, and I was just I always wanted to
look up in the trees. I never looked up, and
then I literally did a raspberry with my mouth and
I looked up. I was like, yeah, right, it wasn't
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up in the trees. There's no branches all the way
up there, and the trees are so skinny up at
the top. There's no way I was up there. And
the sound wasn't up there. It was right here, there's
nowhere for a sound a growl that deep. Even if
it was some animal that is unbeknownst to me. It's
not bigfoot. It would have been big enough to couldn't
(37:23):
hide behind one of these trees, is no way. And
so then we walked to the area where where by
the creek, and then I walked back, and then I
walked over to that area as we're leaving where the
scrub brush it was on the side of the creek
where I think it was in this cluster of bushes,
(37:43):
and at this time of year, there's no leaves on
the trees in the bushes. So I was standing in
the same position where it was making the noise in
the creek and looking where it was, and it was
right there, like it was so close, but because it
granted the bushes with it. But I was doing that,
(38:05):
you know, kind of like the chicken head thing, moving
my head around, trying to get the light through the
bushes to be a darker in one spot. There's just
I didn't see anything. But then, as you have, you
already know something else happened. Right at that moment when
(38:25):
I started, I'm like, okay, well I didn't get any answers.
So I just started walking the trail back to the truck.
And then right after we leave the area that it
all happened. That you can't hear the creek ripple anymore,
you can't hear the wind rustle softly through the trees,
you can't hear the birds trup anymore, and it went
(38:45):
full on recording studio, dead dead, dead silent. I was like, oh,
oh man, and I just stopped because I'm not gonna move.
I'm just gonna use my ears and my senses. And
then my friend walked up with Bubba. Bubba's not alerted,
so I'm not too alerted. But then I go, do
(39:05):
you notice anything? And he goes, yeah, it's it's so
quiet right here. I go, yeah, we should probably right now.
I go, this is the type of stuff that happens
before the next thing happens. He goes, oh, okay, yeah,
let's get out of here. So we just we just left,
and then I gave them a nice warm of thanks
for not scaring the crap out of my friends again,
(39:30):
and I left. So the next step is to go alone,
and I don't know when that's gonna happen, but eventually
I don't know. I just think, I think, because there's
so much of that WU factor stuff that I've even
experienced some of it, that I think that what's going
on up in Mount Adams and all of that phenomenon
(39:50):
is just I would have to just speculate and go
as far out on a limb as to say it's
some kind of multi dimens thing that we don't have
the cognitive sense to be able to be a part of.
If you, if anybody ever goes up to a city
and does any of the work up there and talks
(40:13):
to change or does any of the the things up there,
they talk about multi dimensional in this ascension theory quite
a lot, so he's he might be the guy to
ask those questions too, but he'll give you a bible's
worth of information of answers.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
So I just don't even know how to begin to
unpack this stuff. I agree about, you know, something clearly
energy based that we can't perceive for some reason until
it hits spectrums that we can you know, see visibly
(40:52):
or hear. And there's just so many of these locations
where it just seems like a concentration of just every
thing weird is going on at the same time exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I feel so lucky to live so close to the spot.
Very fortunately. I take friends up there, and most most
of them are just just like You're like, even when
I show them like this, see you go, yeah, I
don't know. I just I don't know what that is.
They can't wrap their head around it, even when it's
right there. It's very mysterious.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Well, there's so many times that, you know, I've experienced this.
I've talked to so many people that have experienced it.
People talk about, especially in bigfoot stuff, running into a
wall where you're just moving forward and then all of
a sudden, it's like you hit this invisible wall and
everything's different and the atmosphere changes and you can't take
another step forward.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You're terrified whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, and it's almost like how you were talking about
everything going quiet. It's almost like you walk into something
that was streams.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
That never happened to me in all of my camping.
And do you know, I used to do a lot
of the wood knock and WHOOPII do stuff, and I
don't do that anymore because you don't need to think.
I think you know, they just find you if you
want him to find you. They'll find me, right, And
I think some of that intention as well. They don't
(42:20):
want to find everybody. But yeah, when it happened, I
heard like I remember looking at the creek and hearing
the creek, and then not hearing the creek. I've been
hunting and fishing with. My father is since passed, but
my whole life. And also keep keep in mind a
(42:41):
little fun fact. My dad was my dad's Lakota Sue.
I have a certain degree of Lakota Sue blood. He
was raised on the reservation for a period of time.
He taught me a lot about all of that stuff
through spoken word, and I don't maybe I'm attracting that stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Do you think that some people do.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I definitely do think some people do, for sure. Some
of the people I've met up there at the City Institute, Yeah,
they're different for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
What you're talking about, like everything going quiet, I mean
there's times when you're out in the woods and something
alerts the wildlife of your presence, or a predator enters
the area and you may not even see it. It
could just be a dog or a cat or something,
and everything goes quiet. The insects stop, the birds stop,
(43:37):
everything goes quiet like you're talking about. However, creeks don't
stop running.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
That's the thing. That's the thing that was weird. Because
I heard the creek, and because I was listening, I
was once again on high alert listening and sensing, and
with all the tracking experience and hunting and talking experience
that I had as a young man with my father, like,
I'm paying in a little gemitism, I'm paying close attention
(44:07):
to stuff. And yeah, I was staring right at the
creek and not hearing the creek, and it wasn't that
far away. That's why I was like, oh, oh, this
is different. That's why I just stopped. I wasn't afraid
to keep moving. I just stopped so I could keep listening.
And that's when my friend walked up. My friend was
(44:29):
probably fifteen keet behind me, so it only took a
few seconds for him to walk up. And then I
definitely asked first. I didn't let him sing anything first,
just because I wanted him to if he didn't notice,
I wanted him to notice, like Katie, he knows anything, yes, yes, yeah,
it's really really you can't hear anything. It's so quiet.
(44:49):
I'm like, yep, we gotta go. Time to go.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
There is another guy I had on the podcast a
while back. It's been a long time, and he was
out hunting and he had an encounter where at first,
if I remember, he heard something kind of paralleling him,
(45:17):
and then ultimately what happened was something screamed at him,
screamed slash roared. He compared it. He was like, it
was the loudest vocalization.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Like it made my ears ring. It was so loud,
and it was right in front of him and he
couldn't see anything.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Wow, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
He's like, there's no where this thing could have been hiding.
It was so close that it you know, it was
literally rattling me as it roared. Yeah, there's no cover
of any kind. I mean it's right there. I know
it's right there, and I'm looking all over and there's
just nothing there.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
And I'm sure he's in a state of Chakler's eyes
are wide.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Oh yeah, he's hunting. He's hunting. He's he's on full alert,
you know, and it definitely changed his life. But yeah,
there's these reports like you're talking about, like the same
exact thing that you experienced where there's something right there
making noise, but you just you can't see it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I tattooed a woman a few weeks ago. She'll actually
be listening to this. I mentioned that we were going
to have an interview. She had an encounter at Mount
Adams at Goose Lake, or near Goose Lake, she said,
at the elk camp, or her family elk camps in
the winter, but they were camping in the summer for
fun and having family times around the bonfire. She said
(46:50):
that they heard a fresh evergreen tree go down near them,
like snap, snap, buckled pal you know, like not dead,
and it got pushed or fell directly over the road
that leads into that camp, the only road in. And
(47:12):
so the men in the family, she said, well, we
gotta go see what that was, and they said they
went and found it, and sure enough, it's a fully
alive tree, snapped and pushed over that the whole road.
Luckily they had chainsaws and saws and stuff to get up.
But then that's beside the point. Then, they said the
(47:33):
men alerted other people and said that they saw eye
shine up in the tree, up behind a tree in
the in the tree line, and she said, she looks
she said she couldn't see anything. She wasn't seeing whatever
they were seeing. But she's she said that they swear
that they saw eyes big guys up in the tree
(47:56):
right after that occurrence. So I don't know. There's just
a lot of stuff like that that happens up there.
Another guy I talked to through a different channel, he's
a local fish and wildlife game warden for the local
fisheries and stuff. He said he was out doing some
(48:18):
They send them out to do some kind of I
don't know what it is, field work sometimes in remote locations,
and he said he saw a large harry seven to
eight foot upright walking thing. He said, he got into
this area near this creek and he startled it and
it stood up and walked off through the brush. And
this guy works for the fishery department. So I don't know.
(48:42):
There's so many stories up here of that stuff going on.
There's something going on.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Do you hear a lot of stories like your tattoo shop.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I ask anybody that if we can get into certain
knowledge about stuff or certain you know, if they're a hunter, Yeah,
if I basically ask them questions about themselves to try
to kind of distract them from the process because it
helps a lot, you know, as I get to know people,
if they say anything about they fish a lot, hunt
(49:17):
a lot, el elk camp up in the mountains, blah
blah blah, I'm definitely asking them, and I a lot
of them say no, A lot of some of them
say yeah, they've heard some wild screams in the woods.
They couldn't tell, but that could you know, there's there's
certain animals like mountain lion scream, certain I think certain
(49:38):
owl screams can kind of certainly sound spooky in the night,
but you can tell them apart.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, and then if they're getting like a big foot tattoo,
I would assume that, Oh.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, I love the big Foot. These for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Do you hear any dog man stories?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
No, nuts, No, No, I'm always curious about that happening
in this area. Like I think I've heard of one
or two on different channels maybe, but I haven't heard
a person specifically say they had encountered anything like that
in this area.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I know people are going to leave comments and correct
me on this, but you don't hear many dog man
stories from the Pacific Northwest?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
No, No, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, But like Mount Adams and Mount Shasta both. There's
just so much weird stuff going on in so much
history involving the mountains themselves.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I haven't been to Mount Shasty yet. A friend of
mine that's been there says he sees similar things that
are on Mount Adams, because I brought him up there
to Mount Adams to show him my version, and he
was saying, they're very similar. The phenomenon, that light phenomenon, Yeah,
who Yeah, it could be natural, but it doesn't. It
(51:04):
just does not seem to fall into the natural category
with me when it comes to all the times that
I've been there where it's when you talk to it,
it's always when you vocalize towards it, it responds. Me
and me and a few friends were up there. It
was the same weekend that you aired one seventy eight.
(51:27):
It was that weekend I had. I heard a friend
of mine, childhood friend of mine up there and him
and his wife and yeah, we it was just the
four of us. I think up there that like no
one and no one was camping. It's just us, and
the lights were only responding when we were like having
(51:49):
our own conversations and being jovial and laughing and telling
funny stories. Then the lights would go off and it'll
be like, oh, oh, here they are, here they are.
Then we'd stop talking, and then it'll stop and we
just wait and nothing happened. And then eventually somebody would
say something that would lead to another and we start
laughing again. In the boom, it's all back twinkling on
(52:11):
the mountain again when we're laughing then, and then even
my friend's wife was say, it only does that when
we're all talking and laughing. It's pretty strange.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Buddy of mind.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Actually, the artist that did my logo art, Jonathan Dodd,
shout out to the Dodd Brothers. He experienced he saw
some strange lights and basically the exact opposite side of
the United States.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
From where you're at.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
With some other people, and he was talking about how
these weird or black lights seemed to have intelligence and
consciousness to them as well and was responding to their actions.
It seems to be sort of with some of the
witnesses with these type of lights having some sort of
(53:07):
I don't know, reaction, like an actual reaction and response
to the people observing them at the time, which I
how would that even work? I mean, because you're seeing
these things, how far away are they when you're looking
at them?
Speaker 3 (53:20):
If you had to.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Guess exactly the lights on not Adams are exactly thirteen
miles away from where we stand in the field at
James's property. That's why I had to climb up there
and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
I mean, that's nuts, Yeah, I mean, first off, I
don't even understand how something thirteen miles away could somehow
respond to you. But then let's look at it from
the skeptical perspective. Let's say that somebody's just up on
the mountain messing with you. How would they know what
(54:00):
you're saying and what you're doing thirteen miles away?
Speaker 1 (54:03):
And even if you were to manage to get a
drone or something with a brighten the light would have
to be bright enough. Think about shining a flashlight thirteen
miles away as someone and how that would look, Or
putting the brightest light bar on your canopy and then
(54:24):
shining it thirteen miles and then calling someone being like, hey,
can you see me? And flashing it. What's the likelihood
you could even see it? And then what's the likelihood
it would be? It definitely would not be as bright
as what we're seeing up there. These lights are so
bright to the naked eye thirteen miles away. It has
(54:46):
to be some kind of massive amount of energy. And
the strangest part is is that light that was in
the ice patch, the snow patch. If anything that right
was being illuminated up there, you would think it would
light up that entire spats of snow because it is
(55:06):
white in the night time, you know, But it doesn't
do that. It's just it doesn't do that. It's almost
like it's its own energy source that doesn't cast physical
light in its realm, if that makes any kind of sense.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Not at all, you know, but I know what you mean, like, yeah,
that's so weird.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
That's just kind of stuff that you think think it's
something else. It's not natural.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
And it's like traversing across mountainous territory just smoothly without
any problems, huge distances at a time. And it's been
going on forever.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah, forever. Why aren't the what's that place, the Skinwalker Ranch?
Why aren't those guys up there now, Adams, it's every
night you have to you have to shoot stuff in
the air and do all this weird techno geek crap
to like figure it out. It's just there. I dare
then just freaking go up there in the night time
(56:11):
and figure it out. I really appreciate it. Yeah. I've
been wanting to tell some of these stories, but no
one seemed to reach out, And this is the perfect opportunity.
So I thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
Synchronicity man. Oh one more thing. Uh, I didn't like
ask you if you wanted to, like, you know, say
your name or whatever, but like, if you want to
shout out your tattoo shop.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Oh yeah, for sure, dragon Fly Tattoo Vancouver, Washington can
get a big Foot tattoo or alien tattoo or whatever.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Yeah. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
If you've had your own encounter with bigfoot, strange lights,
or something else you can't explain, send me an email
at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com. Check out the
website Bigfoot Crossroads dot com. You can find links to
social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you need all in
one place. And until next time, remember there's something in
(57:05):
the woods.
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