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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, Big Fit Society. We've
got the privilege of talking to E today. He is
an individual that reached out to me through email from
central Ohio about some things that he's experienced in that state.
(00:43):
So it's a pleasure to talk to you tonight. E.
I'm going to go ahead and hand it right over
to you. Sarah, thank you for being here tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, thank you for having me. I'd like to stay
up on since a while. I guess I've always been
abliever now a kind of a knower. Had to type
be our class be exciting, pretty pretty, I guess Volger
you'll say that happened to me never, never will forget it.
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So obviously living a while Grassman is the terminology. Didn't
even know about the Grassmen until I moved to Ohio
about over ten years ago. In so Forth State Park
is like the mecca of it all, and told me
I always want to go out there and check it out.
This situation happened to me April twenty ninth of twenty
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twenty two. I know that because it was OHI bien
for ohiped for conference and I'll want to go. I
want to meet people. I knew, you know, all the
big names in a bigfoot community. We're going to be
there and just and it's like, you know, the place
to be for Ohio. So the place that my situation
(02:01):
happened was a spot called Bigfoot rich It was Campsite
number six. I'll never never forget it, still go there
to this day. So it was on Friday nights. Got
there kind of late, probably about eight o'clock, nine o'clock
and it's still kind of like that sunsetting about six.
So I was putting on my camp got off work
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setting everything up in the middle of the kind of
like darkness. How to use my headlamp to put it up.
And then it was going to get cold that day too,
so I got my mister heater got everything I needed.
So after after I set everything up, I had Chipotle
and a chipole and I forgot I left it outside
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and raccoons were I could hear little footsteps coming in
and whoever was at the whibigfoot conference. I even told
the story to them Mark who runs it to everybody
that year as well too. That fall on Sundays, So
if you were there, you know who I am, what
I looked like, and everything else. So yeah, fast forward
(03:08):
to you know, raccoon's coming in and out of my
camp and this is about two o'clock and they kind
of just served me de side of the unzip my zipper,
kind of scam away and used the bathroom. Also to
mention there are people from the BFROL They were campin
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that night around me. Later found that out they were
from New Jersey. They drove allway from New Jersey to
a while to experience the Lopiens for conference. So they
went out for a night investigation. So it's about two thirty.
Now I'm going out to relieve myself and they're coming
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back from a night hike. They had their red lambs
and everything, and so I knew I wasn't the only
one up during that time, so decided to go. Because
they're coming back from the cars and have their head
lamps and going into their tents, and I'm going back
to my tent as well. So I'm kind of surmounded
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by people. If you've ever been at both Biffer Rich
there's a brush line near the connector by that sign
if you're pulling in and be on your right hand side,
and campsite number six. Like I said, so I had
a red tent, had my mister here. It was going
to be in the thirties. And so I hear this raccoon,
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like I said, they're coming in and out, in and
out here go back to the brush line, and they're
taking food that I left out chipole. They kind of
hear rolling through some other stuff as well, and here
nibbling like and you can hear it's like a small
creature of raccoon, possums upon that nature. And as the
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miss is this animals eating whatever it was, small rodents,
naturnal animal, I hear it die like like I hear
it like like it's fighting for his life, like somebody's
attacking him. And I'm like, okay, I'm thinking I'm trying
to be logical, like a coyote fox something like that.
(05:14):
You know that'd be could kill like a preada or
some type of predator the only predators we have, or
black beer. But we only got like a population of
one hundred you know who. It's not like Tennessee was.
It's in the thousands. So so yeah, by all woke
like this animal die and so forth. Decided to turn
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on my mister heater to keep me warm. Say, thirty
degrees came a little bit colder in the nap from
the brush line. I heard, and I was like, did
I just hear that? And it was all because I
turned on my mister heater and my whole tent lit
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up from being red. And I heard it the third
time and it blew me away. And the third time
at first time I turned it on, the missig heat
is weirder because it's like connor clockwise to turn it off,
like I said, it was the first time, I'm using
it two and such. Like I said, I turned it on.
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I didn't believe, but I heard and then it happened
again the second time, and I had it on the
low setting and it got super loud when I accidentally
turned it from low to high and I was trying
to turn it off. I mean, the loans on this
stage it was like and I'm laying on my back too,
like laying on my back, and I'm like, it's not
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even ground level, and I'm like, this thing is up
like if I was a stand up, like you know,
six feet plus, like I'm trying to because I'm trying
to get distance from a distance and how high up
it is and I'm like that that sounds it's like
taller than me. And I can't even do justice of
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with the grunts and so forth. So in my mind,
like I'm thinking, did I just disturb a big foot kill?
And I didn't even hear it come up. And I'm
thinking thinking to myself, if this was a black bear
like it would it would have it should have went
through my camp, which it didn't, should go to other
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people's camps, but it didn't. You hear it slowly like
crunch crunch, crunch away. But for something that big, I
should you to come up to the brush line. And yeah,
it pretty much ambush whatever that was. It was a
raccoon or possum or whatever. But I didn't hear it.
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I mean, I didn't hear anything until it made to kill,
Like I could hear that little animals and then it
just like if you ever heard like a like like
a calf, not a calf fight, but something fighting for
his life. And then he could tell a small like
a dog or like a dog fight or whatever. And
(08:13):
so yeah, something is I mean, I'm up by then
turn on my my mister heater, my tense red. And
I heard the grunts and I didn't believe it, and
I heard it again, and I'm thinking to myself, is
this is this the vocalization that people? Is this what
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it sounds like? And it clearly is directed towards me
because I'm the only one that they had to like
litup the tents. I mean I when I went out
to use the bathroom prior, nobody else had the TN
lit up at all. So and that red on red
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really glowed up the area. And I'm probably like twenty
twenty yards five yards pretty close to our brush line.
I know that because I played football, so I like,
you know, first downs and all that. So yeah, I'm
pretty close. It's this thing. I mean, it could have
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been on me right right then and there, and luckily
it didn't. And the third grunt, because I was trying
to from load, I actually journey to low to hide,
and so hit grunted. So I didn't get a look
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asleep all night. I know what was gonna happen next,
I was gonna come back. I didn't at all, And
so as soon as daybreak, as soon as daybreak, I
go back. So the Central Islands on one stity, that's
really an essential. So so go back to Columbus. My wife,
(10:04):
all of us gonna spend the night there, like you know,
the morning in the laud come home. And I even
come to her and said they're out there. I said,
they're out there. She said, I look like I've seen
a ghost, like I. I yeah, my pain my skins.
You know, I'm African American, and I'm just kind of
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like lost pigmentation. I guess a little bit in my skin,
fair skin like African. So so I I guess I
look whitish and pale. Scared. Kept me playing that over
and over in my head that night, kept listening and listening,
didn't hear anything, but I did hear it, like by
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Peter walk Away. So I just left everything there, you know,
I was just gonna come back and get it. And
so because I just there's no way I was gonna
sleep out there, I needed some sleep. So my son
had a sarcer game anyways, so I decided to go
later that afternoon. So the April twenty ninth, that Friday
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night was cacast technically is April thirtieth, two thirty in
the morning, So April thirtieth the next one because the
week in the Bigfoot Converversus just a weekend thing. So
later go to the afternoon and I pull up and
the BFM people from New Jersey came to me immediately
(11:30):
after I got in my car and asked me, did
you hear anything? And I said, yeah, two thirty in
the morning. They're like yeah. So that gave me validation
that I wasn't the only winner, and it was I
don't know what else. In a while, the biggest thing
we really really got is well white tailed deer and
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a hundred hunder bear roughly black bear. And I mean
the place is notorious for obviously big foot and grass,
so yeah, I mean I what validated for me was
after we playing it over and over and over my
head was the fact how high up those vocals and
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I can tell if it's ground level or not. You
can tell if this is six feet or more. You know,
you know from the treat light. So it definitely was.
And what runs at you and like walks away And
there was nobody with flashlights, nothing like that. So if
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it was, if it was a bear, it should have
went through everybody's stuff. It didn't. It was particular. It
had a mission, it completed a mission, and I think
I deserved part of its mission. That's why I got
those vocalations directly towards me. And yeah, yeah, So share
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with my experience that with helping for conference that Sunday,
whereas it's like a town hall meeting that Mark Coles,
I can't remember my last name, where he's pretty much
runs a sort of let everybody there in front of
Nanny Cliff, doctor Meldroom, even a moneymakers World too. Do
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Ginny was there as well, so John as well. I'll
see John quite a bit when I go there. So
so I after that happened, I was like, I'm never
don't need to go back don't need to. I was scared,
Like it took me months. They even built up the
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courage because like I said, this is COVID, the ending
and ending of COVID, And you know, I was always
curious about it. And before I was hiking, that was
my first time spending the night there. And you know
there's a map of I guess where all other sightings
has happened as well. And I wanted to go to
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a primitive site and it's a primitive spot throughout the park,
the snow running waters, electricity, and yeah, I've done hikes
there where I've seen footprints in March which is still
like thirty degrees and I wear a size a little
boot and the width, the length, the depth, the depth
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is like incredible that something can leave an impression like
that in frozen ground. The heel print like when you
step like heel first, toe second, and the heel was
somewhat deeper. The heel leaves the bigger impression because that's
where all the weight goes, and it's is the earth
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which as it rolls it up. I got pictures of
that Conshocton County went on the high control there. This
is probably like a year or so ago ing season.
It sounds I'm walking there's deer everywhere. I think Constocton County,
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in Jersey County they got the biggest kills deer deal
Caro kills. You're in your al plenty of food and
those two kind of kind of touch each other, aboard
each other, and so yeah, fall obviously deer season. Walking
down this trail fire like, and there's houses on my
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right hand side, not houses. I was a farm, a farm,
but the loudest like Louisville, Celever not ever. And oh,
I do a lot of hyping, hope when I get lucky,
Like I said, to build some time after this. The
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situation happened to me in two thousand and two, and
this not probably happened last year last fall, So there
was some courage to go back out there and heard
that's what. I don't know what else I mean, It
wasn't It was so early in the morning, it was
like seven thirty in the morning, and I'm like, who's
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building anything? And it wasn't repetitious knocking. There was just
one solid like power and that was it. It wasn't
a like, it wasn't even a tree falling over because
you were with crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, fall over. It
wasn't even that so I had a walker stick. I
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tried to knock back nothing, but I saw when I
saw the deer on that day, that day, this is
like last fall. It felt like a knock, like someone's here.
The grunts. I'm going back to the grunts. I'm sorry,
I'm all over the place because the grunts felt like
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someone's saying, hey, hey, knock it off, like that's what
That's what it felt like, cut it like, cut it out,
knock it off type grunts. And I didn't act fast enough.
Of the grunts are probably a second apart, and the
third one just got pretty pretty pretty low like it
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escalated and I couldn't get that mister year shut off
fast enough. So I mean, I've I still go out.
I reached out to Harley Owens let him know that
I am. It's pretty close six hours away. Two I
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heard them. I've seen the impressions they leave on Earth,
and I do I do one day I want to
have a class. Obviously, I don't want to if I'm
going to have a class A, you know, if I
have my pickings of something that is I can go
home that day. But so, yeah, so far I had
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those Class B and they were never never forget and yeah,
I mean they're definitely here. I mean, I don't know
what else, what else could leave that type of type
of front in the middle of the night, and yeah,
it's yeah, it has to be.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So that's that's very interesting, that whole situation happening that weekend.
Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You leave early in the morning to go back to Columbus,
which is under an hour and a half, is right,
and then you go back to get your stuff. Now,
when you went back to the campsite to get your stuff,
you know, did you notice signs of a struggle? How
you know you were saying, like that raccoon or whatever
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it is got taken out or did you see any evidence?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So yeah, So one of the guys from how I
knew it from Bilfarro because he had a Berfarro aad on,
and and I talked to him and they told me
they were from New Jersey. And there was this one
particular skinny lady, red hair, pink hair that we went
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back there to look to see like a tussle. This thing.
It sounded like a gut a hold of and it
was like you know how if you pick up a
wild cat's trying to get out of your arms, and
I think, I think this like snapped his neck, twisted something,
and that was the end the bed. So it wasn't much.
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It wasn't even tusseling. Really, it was like I snatch up.
It wasn't like the bushes weren't, you know, rumbling around
the leaves, none of none of that. It's like like
I said that that animal that was eating my chipotle
was occupied, yall, And I don't thinking to my that night,
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I'm thinking, what a perfect opportunity to ambush animal in
the midst of it, you know, being occupied eating this food,
you get behind it or and get it. So I'm thinking,
what do we have in a while that can do that.
I'm like, possibly fox, coyote. But they're not going to
leave those vocalizations like how I heard, or bared for
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that matter, because they don't go like they this is
a growl and a grunt. And this is definitely a grunt, right,
And it was immediate.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So you you said you heard, you actually heard like
bipuedal footsteps as well afterwards.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, it was odd. It was. It sounded like a
sneak sneak up. I mean, I mean when I say
it sounds like the fact that I didn't hear it
come the fact that I didn't hear it. And it
was it was large. It was large. It was and
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it was And I'm laying on the ground and I
can hear it like six feet up. And I'm being
conservative when I say that too. When I say six
feet up, I'm like a minimum of six street, like
a minimum of that. I'm glad I got the validation
from the people from the UFR telling me, hey, did
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you they I couldn't. They came out. I couldn't get
out the car fast enough without them coming towards me, right,
and and and the lady he heard it, the skinning
girl from New Jersey. The guy with the BFR had on.
He said he fell asleep. I mean when they went
in their ten and after I got done doing number one,
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it happened ten minutes thirteen at the most. And I'm
thinking that they like, you know, when you're in the
woods and if you're looking for a bigfoot like they were,
you're gonna want to stay up a little as long
as you can, especially just got into your tenth So
for him to say that, yeah, I fell asleep, I
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was like, man, you fell asleep less than ten minutes
fits and I was kind of like, there's no way
you tell it. And then here and that. I was
like that that didn't that didn't like wake you up
at all, Like you're I can understand if you're going
slowly to sleep. But so he was kind of bummed out.
He didn't hear it a little bit if you did.
And other people were saying that, yeah, there was a
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lot of animal activity, which makes sense because there's a dumpster.
There was the prime opportunity for them to get into
the trash cans after the people leave or you know
this camps But yeah, big Foot Big for Ris is
obviously a hospital. Whoever's been there knows about it. So yeah,
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they've been saying throughout the osport.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Can you can you share it? Just in case listeners
don't know? Do you can you share any information about
why that area is called big Foot Bridge.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
The story that I know of is that there was
a picnic area before they made it a campsite, and
I think John has said this on one of his
podcasts on YouTube, or he was telling the store as
somebody was is that. I guess this is going back
to the eighties maybe early nineties, that some a tool
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stepped out. Man. I think it was a handicap like
picnic area. So and then they converted into a campsite eventually,
a primitive campsite. Like I said, it didn't doesn't have
any electricity or running water or anything like that. And
I guess when they named it, they named it Bigfoot Ridge.
There's a sign up ford and everything. You can look
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good up on Google. I guess once like it was
being known as the hot spot of Ohio in a sense,
they decided to name it biffoot Ridge.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Absolutely, a Salt Fork State Park is a huge, huge
bigfoot area for people that aren't aware. It's also the
site of the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, as you said earlier.
But were there any other reports from that night or
weekend of other people in other areas having big foot interaction?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So the place there's a horse there's a horse camp area.
Everybody everybody that has courses I likes to go over
there as well too. And there's a lot of bridle trails.
It's like four or five. While I like, it's a
great place if you want to go for long hikes.
I do now just to see what I can see.
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I think the next thing for me is like possibly
smelling them. Never I didn't smell anything. I did get
asked the question did I felt sick? I remember tell
my story at the conference and one one guy came
up to me, did you feel sick? And I said, no,
I didn't feel nauseous because I heard of ultrasound with
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the aggression of the vocalization towards me. Because I turned
on my mister here and just lit up the place
with my red tent, and so I just kind of
gave it like a you know, a glow. It lit
it up for sure, and that's why I think I
didn't hear it. It was certainly trying to be stealthy
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and me lighting up the tent, you know, like somewhat
cover so and so. Yeah, I mean it was definitely
towards men. I mean, like I said, it happened a
second as soon as they're turning on the mystic here.
But other people did the There was another lady from
New Jersey from the bfrol By. Like I said, the
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horse camp. There's the orange trail that kind of begins there,
so to speak. There's like the white trail, Blue trail,
Purple trail, Orange trail. They saw two sets of blowing
red eyes, one blow and high. So yeah, there's other
people that saw something glowing red eyes. And they were
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out there when I was setting up tents, Like I said,
eight o'clock six six whatever it was, they were heading out,
So they were out there for like six hours from
about being able to say from eight to to.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
That's very very interesting. Besides, so I guess a few
few follow up questions. No strange smells in the campsite.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
No, no, nothing nothing words like the stuff you hear, right,
the stuff that like like the skunk, the wet dog
and all that, this stuff that makes you want to
throw up like none of that. No, no, thefofo sick.
But the like the sound, the best way I can
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describe is like below the diro frame, like like guttural
bulleting your gut. If you can like make sounds from
your belly up versus from your lungs up, like That's
how I would describe it. It sounded like if if
a gorilla could do that. That's I mean, that's I
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never really heard of gorilla grunt, but but it's not
a known animal in Ohio that can, like I said,
deer and bear right, And it was like it had
intelligence because it didn't do what I wanted to like
it clear stop the grandsons. I turned off the mister
heater you know after the time a third run. So
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I had intelligence like to do that.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
And I'm thinking, if this this this thing, we're not
no for a bear state at all or just just
not West Virginia and Tennessee are right, but we're not
no for that.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well, I used to tell people you have a better
chance for running to a big foot than a than
a black bear here in Ohio. And I mean I
think Ohio is the hospital because all our rivers run
into Ohio River. So you got the water stream, all
the creeks and the small rivers at Sayota Rivers and
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all that running to its obviously you got the great
lakes that that you know, so we were surrounded by water.
Really no main big predators hunder beer, black bear which
was nothing to them. And well mean trophy if you
want a trophy book the house. Whereas at for a
trophy book be trying to get that to two fifty
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range of pounds. You can definitely get it here. So
and I know winters are not whether lately they've been
very very mild, but but yeah, I mean it goes
back to the eighteen hundreds when that one particular father
and daughter are walking down and she just I don't
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even think she's said really because a couple of gorillataty
exists back in those terms. I forget what she called
it and attacked her dad. So so yeah, I mean
it's it's And then I also go to Hawking Hills
as the stories the National Forests. I haven't had experienced there,
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but yeah I don't. I don't. I really don't go
once in the summertime just because you can't see any foliage.
I mean, the foliage is so thick. But yeah, the
situations that happened to me with the knock vocalizations, they
were spring and fall.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So yeah, that makes that makes sense. Yeah, that's a
that's a good time, especially the fall from what I hear.
So you are you're actively going to Hawking Hills or
you've been there a few times?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean living living in Columbus. You know
you're about I mean, I live on a I went
fifteen that get to South Fork and then like an
hour hour and fifteen pen of Hawking Hills, the National Forests,
southeast Ohio. Tayor Hall is a good place, Broke, It's
a good place. State park. Trying to think of some
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other ones as well, but yeah, anything over there is
obviously in Hawking Hills. That whole general region is a
good spot. If you look at it on a BFR
map that's mapped out, you can pretty much draw a
straight line from Lemon County all the way down to
Hawkin Hills, which runs into SOUTHFLK. So it's our highest
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point of the state. And it's I guess the appellation
of foot foothills and plateaus, I guess, And it kind
of makes sense why they stay from eastern Ohio southeast
to northeast, so kind of a diagonal line, which kind
of much through South Fork if you were d on
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the map. But but yeah, I'll never forget. There's nothing.
And I've been to the zoo. I've been at San
Antonio Zoo. Columbus Zoo is pretty well known. There's there's
there's nothing that makes not there's nothing in North America,
well at least classified. It makes that noise.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Did you say that you had actually seen a track there, Yeah, yep,
tell us. I think it end that was in the weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Something that was that was like the year priory. That was.
I was going out there like two thousand and two
I'm sorry, two thousand COVID COVID years because there's not
much else to do then go hiking and camping, and
I was getting tired of playing golf all the time,
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so needed another outlet of And I think that's where
I picked it up because, like I said, one story short,
I was working from home and I'm listening to a
bunch of podcasts and so forth, So it kind of
expired me to go out, you know, to soft Fork
and get on those trails. Like I said, it's a
whole bunch of bottle trails that can go eight miles
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to ten miles, and I guess I'm four mile once
as well too. So yeah, I got on the trail
and I saw the footprint, Like across the trail there
was this one single footprint that stepped on the trail
off and you couldn't see the recipe because it was
you know, leaf litter everywhere, but the trail didn't have
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any leaves. And you can definitely see a heel for sure.
It looked blocky, like a blocky foot it really it didn't. Yeah,
just wide and blocky. You can see toes as well
in it. But the heel looked like the dirt just
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rolled upon his heel when it's stepped on it, because
it's pretty blank rounded rounded at the heel area as
it's pushing off his heel into the toes, so or
landing it heel and going onto the toes. But yeah,
I was walking down the trail of it and step
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right over it, step right over it, and it was
kind of it looks fairly fresh. But but what caught
me was the impression. And I was looking for rocks,
but I'm thinking like, and it's a horse trail, so
like they're going to clear rocks out the way. They
don't want their horses breaking their bessive animal welling and
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take care of and all that, so they keep it
somewhat kind of cleared out for the horses. And I'm
looking around for rocks, not firing a rock, but it
is clearly going on the us this is on the
blue Blue trail. That's all this and the blue trails.
If you look us all focused on the peninsula, you
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can say and a lesser crossing the waters is a
really one way in and one way out on land
without crossing water. So that's the reason why I went
on a blue trail, and that's where I noticed it.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Did you have any way of did you have like
a tape measure or anything with you to try to Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I did, I did. I mean my size a little foot,
so I can I can send it to you love
it to compare. And it makes my foot like a
child's foot, it really does. That was that was that
was astonished. I'm like, I got I guess one unquote
grown man feet. I mean I'm not six four sixty five.
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But that made my stuff with like my my toddler
when I have my kids were toddlers.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
So were you able to try to do like a
cast or a three D scan or anything like that?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Besides me? No, I didn't have anything. I didn't have
anything on me. I mean the only thing I don't
even think. I didn't have my wallet on me. I
left it in the car, So I didn't have really
not much other than I knew everybody knows what the
size of leven foot looks like or a boot. So
so I put my foot up against it to say, hey,
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this is like almost twelve feet right here at the
size eleven, So man, it's another three to four yeah. Yeah,
it looked like fifteen feet to me. Yeah. And then
the whiff, like my it was like the width of
my foot plus another half of my foot at least.
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So I got, I put my foot in it, and
it was spaced on left and right of it. And
I waited to forty. So I'm not I'm not a
skinned guy, and I couldn't do nothing in the ground.
And the ground was frozen. It was freezing that night
and thaws out a little bit, so but we're in March,
so it's like forty for a high. It's not throwing
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out that fast or that that efficient. So it's more
frozen throughout the death than it is above freezing. So yeah,
and it's to leave their impression into the ground like
that was something.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
How how deep into the ground did it go?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Again? At least at said inch? At least like inch
and a half. That's wild. And I couldn't do nothing
I couldn't do nothing. Like I tried stopping on it
and everything around it, like not in it, but around
it to see what I can do. I couldn't moved it.
I mean the grounds like sex seemen almost, So there's
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nothing I can my two hundred and forty pound body
could do to put it impression into the earth like that,
and coming out of winter so barely.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Scott from Patreon has a question for you, what was
it that first got you into a Bigfoot in the
first place?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Manster Quests, Monster Quests definitely did the the Ohio grassmend episode,
and I just moved to I guess a while and
seven and I think that came in like two thousand
and seven, I want to say eight really, and that
floored me. And then they had another one about Kentucky,
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like they're in a while Kentucky. They got to be
in West Virginia and found out about the Florida's country,
so they intrigued me. I was in colle and that
was about going to college and then school and girls
and bars and parking and all that gotten away and
then COVID hit and it's like, okay, I think everybody
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had to find an int is because if you're guy
was going to the gym and I was going to movies,
going out to eat all I came to a hall,
So I need something to gravitate take towards keeping my
interest throughout the day. And that's what kind of I
guess we sprung it or it was there. But I
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always believe boys believe in evolution topology as well too.
Its evolution of you can say beings human beings, I
guess neanmathos and so for from but yeah, I mean,
and then the fact that every Native American has a
word for it, and I was like, oh my, and
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then like from coast to coast, like they're they're definitely
not calling each other, writing each other, none of that.
And then yeah that and definitely and everybody can be crazy.
Everybody is like making this up over and over and
over and over and over again. I'm like, you know,
and I was like, there's no money to make this
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stuff up there, like you're not you're not going to
get rich off of telling the story.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Well, it's you know, all these people emailing and giving
reports and it's like they're not. My emails is full
every day and it's like these people are not getting
anything from sending these emails like it's just yeah, I
totally get what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
And then like for me, like, but the podcast was
that was the harshness of treatments. I guess higher authorities
in the governments that people get And I was like, really,
like they go that far off threats and stalking and yeah,
the harassment, it was like wow, So that that caught
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my interest on my cred They definitely not making this
up absolutely at all.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Have have there been any other interesting encounters you've heard
of from the Salt Fork area? Just curious if you've
ever heard anything.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to give out this guy's name. Sure,
so I don't know if it's his permission, but he's
pretty well known. Yeah, there was a guy if you know,
well even Google or the I met him a big
foot bridge. This is he knows who he is if
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he's listening. His name starts Real to Eat as well too.
Let's say that. And over by the group camp there's
like a swampy area and it's a little road that
goes into it and him and his his his prime Yeah,
(41:50):
there's only YouTube changes. Well, so he's I don't want
to tell too much about him. M hm, but uh,
him and his partner go out for a hike and
come back. His story is that I think his wife
was going to don't have one car, so normally he
goes in with his car, comes out of his car,
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go back in his car, and leaves. This time, like
I guess, his wife was dropping him off, and so
they dropped them off. They go in and out they
where they normally park at. They kept on walking and
at soft Fork, like I said, at the campus is
little road and it's kind of swampy on both sides,
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he saw one about ten feet tall, all black. Moved
trees out the way to see if they left, because normally,
like I said, they drive in, drave out, they doors close, opening,
flows and all that. And I guess the big foot
was like where are they? I didn't hear him get
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back in their truck, and hear them away, And they
were walking towards his bridge near a bridge over this
little swamp spot to get I guess closer to his
wife that was on her way. She was running a
little bit late, and so they did something out of
the routine that they normally do. And he saw one
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and he was shook up for months. He told me,
showed me a picture. I guess Mark Seene went as
well too. I talked to Mark, I think you know
who Marks who wants to be a big for conference.
He saw a black one as well, So I guess
they're pretty common to be black here in Ohio. Not
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to say there's not brown ones or anything like that
or whatever. But two of the people I saw talk
to face to face that had an encounter and that
class a good class a that they had, they're black.
So so yes, I that's the class that I heard
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of as solt Fork. Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
That's extremely interesting. I'm sure a lot of people listening
to this would be like, Man, I've always wanted to
go to soft Fork and look for Bigfoot. Do you
have any advice for people that are going to sell
Fork for the first time to go camping.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
There's gonna be a lot of knuckleheads out there. Don't
go and don't don't don't. Don't go out there in
the summertime because every everybody that I know, there's people
that don't even bother going to soft Fork anymore because
it's it's some people nothing. It's just saying it's getting
squashed out. But you get all these people going out
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there in the summertime, knock on trees, hooping and hollering
and doing hoops, and you know they got they got
the kids camp where they go out there and they
walk up around. It could be pushing them away at
certain times of the year. And that's why I talked
about a while. If you look on the bfr O,
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you can plot a straight line so they can go
up and down on line in the state so they could,
like I said, Hawking Hills is just right below it
on that appellation, the appellation of why really that they
do get pushed out because there's too many people in
the state park. They got someone else to go. So yeah,
(45:32):
if you're going to do this, do it when I
did it really spring lay fall. I like going because
if you're going on these trails, it's so thick in
there you can't see ten feet and you're almost wasting
your time doing that. If you're going to do it,
you want to go when all the leaf leaf flitters down,
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you know it's November, December, January, February, where you actually
can see a mile, no half a mile. This pointless
doing it during the summertime. He really is, so I
don't even waste her. I mean, I'm not saying not
go out there, but I have a little expectations. In
other words, I would say, if you want them to
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come up close, you're going to need at least three days.
I think I just got lucky that one night of them.
It really didn't come up to me. It really had
no interest in me. I just disturbed it but turning
on my mister Hero lamp glowing up my tent, and
it got pissed off of me. So it wasn't there
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to check me out. It was really there to do
its normal routine of getting a dinner, a meal and
keep keep it, keep it moving. But if you want
these things, I guess I've heard you need at least
a week a LA about that four or five days
for the don't even feel comfortable approaching you. So it's
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clearly pissed off of me, and you know probably didn't
want me there to begin with. So if you want
to have an accounter, I guess them coming into your
camp mind didn't come in my camp. I don't count
that account is passing my camp by. I just got lucky.
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I'm turning all my mystery here at the time that
I did and definitely directed towards me, and the other
people heard it too, So yeah, I think it's a
solid Yeah, a solid class B vocalization. I really haven't
heard too many stories like mine, like kind of like
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the old man get off on your type of thing,
like yelling at me. Never really heard that from anybody else.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
He Thank you for coming on and sharing. This is
a very interesting interaction. It's kind of a unique one.
I would say, definitely haven't heard many like it. But
I appreciate you coming on to talk about your experience
at soul Fork.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, appreciate it. Thank you for having me. It was
a pleasure. Yeah, I'm surprised we don't have more form
a while, be honest with you, I don't know why
that is.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
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