Caught in the Rain With the Hairy Folk!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

(00:20):
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us. Hey, Melissa, how are you.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
How are you doing great? So have you had a
bigfoot experience?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (00:39):
When I was young, I did.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Are you over eighteen?

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Yes, I'm forty five.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Okay, sorry. You have a very youthful voice, which is great.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Is that something you could share tonight?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, for sure. I actually listened to your podcast a lot,
so when I saw you on live, I was like, whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I come from Eastern ban Cherokee of North Carolina.
My grandma casts him to a sakadu or hairy man.
I grew up in the Appalachia Mountain of southwest Virginia.
I don't know if you've ever heard of that area.

(01:15):
It's like near East Tennessee, eastern.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
Kentucky that area.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
So I grew up in a really very denced area
of the mountains. My grandmother used to tell us when
we were younger, we have to close the shes at
night because the hairy man would look through the windows.
And this one particular night, my cousin and I forgot
to close the shades. We were on the second floor.

(01:45):
We spent the night with her on the weekends because
I lived in about an hour away, closer to the
Tennessee warder and she lived closer to the eastern Kentucky border. Anyways, sorry,
it's my first time telling this ever to anybody outside.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh wow with a bank So.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
No, it's no problem. I tell people like friends, but
not anybody else. But anyways, I was asleep it was
probably like two thirties in the morning, and I woke
up to something tapping on the window and I was like, okay,
So I look out and I see a big black silhouette,

(02:23):
which is little eyes.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
The eyes were like kind of like a hazel color.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I can see the eyes, but just a big black
silhouette because it like blocked out the light of the
of the window. And I obowed my cousin. Her name
was Chamberlaine. I elbowed her, told her like, hey, do
you see that? And she starts screaming like instantly, because
she was probably eleven, I was probably more like a

(02:49):
fifteen around fifteen sixteen. She's screaming, what is that?

Speaker 7 (02:53):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
But when I noticed it, it like tapped on the window,
but kind of like pointed his finger for me to
come outside, which was kind of creepy. So I instantly
elbowed her. Of course, I was closest to the window,
My grandma was closest to the wall, and then my
cousin was in the middle. Everybody jumped up.

Speaker 8 (03:12):
My uncle got out of the bed.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
He went outside, and there was nothing there. It disappeared
like it like vanished. It was too it was too
big to be a human, because it would have had
to be at least seven eight foot tall to even
hit that window. I told my grandma what it looked like.

(03:34):
She told me that we should have shut the shades
because I think she was asleep before we got there
because he's been a long time, of course before she
we got in the bed before after her, and she
just said it was probably the hairy Man.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Well, my great uncle.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Lived deeper in the woods, and he told me the
hairy man would come out at nighttime all the time
picking their windows. Also, he had like cattle, and they
would steal the calves when the cattle would have the
babies or whatever. But he lived deep in the mountains.

(04:10):
But he called him the hairy man too. But my
grandma had another name, like I said, Toussacado. But yeah,
I saw it when I was probably like fifteen sixteen,
and since then, I mean, I've believed I've been told
stories as a child, the little people, the hairy Man,
the rotten u we call something called the spear finger.

(04:30):
I don't know if you've ever heard of any of
these folklore, yep, but I grew up on that kind
of folklore. I wasn't the person who was I saw
this and it changed my life because it's not supposed
to be there. I was the person who'd been told
this since I was little, that these things were real.
Not to listen to your name being called, not to

(04:51):
whistle after dark, close your windows, she so it wasn't
like a surprise. But there've been a lot of things
my grandma had seen in that area, not just Bigfoot,
other things like gnomes. She would tell me about little
people all the time.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
Gnomes.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Uh, she talked about the wumpus catalot, things like that. Yeah,
but I was very young, and I've been a big
foot believer of course since i was little. But seeing
that it was just too big. And someone posted a
video online, not probably a couple months ago. I seen

(05:31):
it and it was exactly what I had seen, exactly
the same style like.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
It's just it was so black.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
That you couldn't tell it was anything. All I could
see was a silhouette of something big, and I could
see the finger like a human finger. It was a humanoid,
it was it was different.

Speaker 9 (05:53):
I think that is so.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
That is that is creepy beyond belief. Do you remember
looking outside the next day to see if there is
anything weird you could see in the daylight, like tracks
or anything like that.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
I guess I was too.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Young to think about that, you know what I mean.
And then my uncle he just jumped up out of
the bed and literally in his underwear right outside. He's
like there's nothing out there. My grandma, my cousin, she
remembers to the stage. She don't I don't really talk
to her that much anymore, but she remembered it last
time I talked to her about it, because she was
really young. It scared her to where she screamed, like

(06:26):
I was trying to keep it low key, like, don't scream,
let's kind of see what's doing kind of thing. But
I was also told stories of when we were young
that they love, they like children and women, and they
like to lure kids out. And that's why you don't
listen to your name being called or whistling or baby cries,
because they like to lure you out. And I don't

(06:48):
know if they have a factuation with women or children,
but I do know that there's a story about a
Cherokee girl who married a bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Really I've never heard that one.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, so she was I don't know if she was.
She wasn't stolen, she was, she married one, but my
grandma said they were still women and children, So I
don't know if that was our lord to come outside.
It was kind of creepy a little bit, and I
wasn't scared. I just tried to get someone else's attention
so they could see what was going.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
On too, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
So, but my grandma didn't see it, not that she
didn't believe, she just didn't see it. It was just
me and my cousin.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Like, inness you you really grew up in the thick
of it down there. Thank you for sharing what you've experienced.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's exciting. I mean, I'm glad I could share with
someone who was like outside of my friend group, who
doesn't look at you weird and like just believe in that.
And I'm like, yeah, do you believe you're the only
thing on this planet? Like come on, yeah, So and
I've seen I've seen I've seen the UFOs two later
on yeah, later on my life. So I've seen some weird.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Stuff, but that man, crazy stuff. Would you be okay
if I could use this audio from our conversation on
the podcast?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh yeah no, that's awesome, and I'll be listening to it.
I said, I saw you in here, and I was like,
let me join because I want to see what it's about.
And I don't care to tell you my story because
I want somebody to know that they're real, they're not
it's not something people make up. Too many people that
say these things too much folklore in my tribe, there's.

Speaker 10 (08:29):
Just no way, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Absolutely well, Melissa, thank you so much for coming up.
I do appreciate it. Hi there, how are you?

Speaker 11 (08:37):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Am good? Yeah? Well, my story is.

Speaker 12 (08:44):
Like, it's kind of a I don't know if it
was a bigfoot because I couldn't really see that it was,
but it was definitely a huge shattle thing, and it
creeped me out. It was like, right, yeah, so I
passed the Tioga Pass and Yosemite rate and so I'm

(09:07):
pretty sure that it was a bigfoot, I want.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
To say, but I am not one hundred percent sure
because it like.

Speaker 12 (09:15):
So I spent like a day in the forest, you know,
when it became night and I was camping and my cats.
I had two cats, and they wanted to go pee,
and all of a sudden, my cats freak out. They
don't make a sound. So that freaked me out. So
I go in, like, you know, I go and check

(09:37):
on them, and uh, all of a sudden, I also
see what they were looking at and they were frozen
like cats, you know. So what I saw was like
a big black shadow like it just was huge. But
I couldn't see eyes or anything. But I froze, was

(10:00):
you know, That's all I could remember. But the thing
was huge. It was like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Ten feet wow, ten feet tall.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yes, And I didn't know what to do.

Speaker 12 (10:12):
So I started calling my cats and I it's almost
like you're frozen, you know. But I don't know if
it was because I was so scared it was doing
something to me. I really don't know. It was like
I just couldn't It was like I was paralyzed. I
don't know if that makes any sense, but I don't
know if it was.

Speaker 10 (10:29):
No.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Absolutely, I've been through that myself, where I wasn't able
to move for about five minutes in an area. So
did it eventually leave on its own then or what happened?

Speaker 12 (10:42):
I think I honestly, I think I I am froze
after like the five minutes or so, and then all
of a sudden, all I could just remember is like
grabbing my cats and I put them in the car
as fast as I could, and I just took off.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
So I drove away. That's how I got.

Speaker 12 (11:00):
I thought it was following me because I but you know,
you just it's almost like this thing if it's a
big food, it's almost like they know.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
It's like they talk to you telepathically. I don't know
if that makes any sense, No.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
It absolutely does. What is it that makes you think.

Speaker 9 (11:16):
That, though?

Speaker 12 (11:18):
Because I just felt that, like I felt like it
followed me throughout, Like even when I was far away
and I was able to go into like a little
town and I got away from the forest, it was like.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
I could still feel it, like trying to call me back.
It's weird. I don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
It is not weird at all, because I've talked to
so many people and I've experienced this myself, where you're
in an area, you have interaction and then all usually
they say their dreams get very intense and they are
they feel like they're getting drawn back to the area
for months and months afterwards. Yeah, it's a very very

(12:01):
common thing.

Speaker 12 (12:02):
It's weird because I feel sometimes like whatever it is
is trying to call me, Like, you know, it's weird,
but I am scared, you know. After that experience, I
kind of I got freaked out and I don't go
alone per se to the forest anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's it's very interesting.

Speaker 8 (12:24):
I have not had.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I've not had any witness I've talked to where they've
had that experience in addition to having the encounters, so
your yours is pretty unique. I'm sure that that's also
happened before. I just haven't talked to those witnesses yet.
But would you be all right if I if I

(12:49):
use the audio from our conversation in a big foot
podcast that.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
I have, Yeah, that's fine, but if if you know
you won't use my name?

Speaker 8 (13:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Absolutely not?

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Okay, great? Then yeah, absolutely perfect.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, thank you for coming up. I appreciate you sharing about.
That's an area I have never had anyone share about.
What was the year on that?

Speaker 8 (13:12):
Again?

Speaker 12 (13:13):
I how am I encounter in twenty twenty three? So yeah, okay,
and then my grandma passed away like the next year
in April, which was really weird.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
But yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:28):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, thank you for sharing and for coming up. I
appreciate you coming up and keep us in the loop
if you ever experienced anything else out there?

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Okay, thanks Tom?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
How are you I see your comment year from out
there in the Pine?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Or yeah?

Speaker 10 (13:47):
Yeah, really good to talk to you. I've been following
your show for quite a while.

Speaker 9 (13:50):
Now.

Speaker 10 (13:51):
And you know, I had lived in an Oregon my
whole life, but I've been here about twelve years in
La Pine, Oregon. I'm a contractor and I have multiple
friends that I've talked do that have had experiences, but
I had one even. I live out in Ponderosa Pines
outside La Pine, which is just real close to the

(14:12):
upper to Shoots River where it comes out of Wikiap Reservoir.
And there was one night I was talking with my
mom on the phone on my back porch, and our
back porch was blm land, you know, as far as
you could go all the way to Walldo Lake, you know.
And I was talking with her on the phone that
night and I was looking out there and all of

(14:33):
a sudden, I see these big red, glowy eyes and
it flipped me out. I told my mom, I go, Mom,
I can't believe it. I'm looking out there in the
forest right now. I see these big glowy eyes and
they were way up high, like pretty tall. So I
was like, I need to get my labbador out here.

(14:53):
You know, he was in the house. I'm just out
in the backyard, you know. So I got my labbador
out there, but the time that I took to get
him out there. By the time I got him out
there and called him out, those eyes were gone wow.
And I'll tell you what after the other stories that
I have from a few other friends that I know

(15:14):
around here, like, for instance, I know a blacksmith here
in town that him and his wife they had their
horses up at Elk Lake, you know where they you
know that area up there where you can have your
horses and stuff and park your trailer and all that stuff.
They were up there and it was a real slow weekend,

(15:34):
like they were the only campers up there. And what
he said was is in the middle of the night
they had an experience where their horses started freaking out.
So Connie went out there to check on the horses,
and she got him calmed down and everything, and then

(15:56):
came back inside and like her husband said, you know,
she came back to bed. They didn't even lock the
door on the trail on their fifth wheel and about
fifteen minutes later they hear their trailer just goes bam,
bam bam. Something slammed on the side of their fifth
wheel way up high at the very top corner and

(16:18):
it dentted it in and they were freaked out. They
didn't know what to think. But he right away was like,
because he already believed in sasquatch, he was thinking, you
gotta be kidding me. This could be a sasquatch doing this.
And so the whole night they were freaked out hiding
out in there, that they heard footprints all around their

(16:39):
whole fifth wheel. And I guess when they got up
the next morning, it finally calmed down enough where they
left and they went to bed, and when they got
up the next morning, they found three different size footprints
of bigfoots all around their fifth wheel, and they actually
took pictures of them, and they drove all the way

(17:01):
home here in the pine and bought some uh some
plaster to make cast. Now I got a chance to
actually look at their photos before they cast them, and
look at the bottom of their actual cast, and they
lined up perfect, okay, And it didn't look fishy to

(17:23):
me at all. I was I was compelled by it
to be honest with you. I know you're out of
like are you an oak Ridge or no? Or are
you in Eugene No?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I like this this is gonna blow your mind. I'm
in Central Iowa. So yeah, I believe it or not. Yeah,
but I I I go out to.

Speaker 8 (17:48):
Uh Or again.

Speaker 10 (17:50):
I drove through their want to have that job up
there years ago, right.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Okay, yeah, yeah, but I love that Actually, yeah, that
will lay at National Forest is wild?

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Have you ever had anything happen over bydel Lake?

Speaker 10 (18:14):
You know Odell? You know, I hear I watch a
lot of stuff happening in the Oak Ridge Odell, in
the area of Waldo Lake, you know. But as far
as the people I know around here, I have another cup.
One old couple. I won't tell your name, but she

(18:35):
died a couple of years ago, but I did a
bunch of work for her, and she told me, she goes,
we've lived your our whole lives. And we were at
the backside of Wikia back in the eighties driving our
jeep close to dark and they saw she said, they
didn't tell anybody for years, but she told me and Jim,

(18:55):
she goes, we saw a bigfoot run right out in
front of us all the week with like two hawks
hopped across the road road in front of him on
the back side of Wiki at Reservoir. So you never know,
I mean, you know, I have another guy that two
years ago was walking his dog in State Wrecked Park
right here in the pine and it was late. It

(19:15):
was late, you know, late in the winter, kind of
coming into spring where there was still a good foot
of snow on the ground or soap. And he saw
tracks that he could not believe. And he took pictures
and showed him to me where he saw like three
to four, like between three and four foot strides with

(19:37):
huge footprints where you could see where his toes peeled
up and then it froze and left the lines of
where it froze. It must have been a real cold day.
And so he called the game warden and he called, uh,
let see, had two people out there, the game warden
and fishing game. He got out there and they were

(20:00):
going away. They didn't want to say much, but he could.
He told me, he goes. They were like, we're gonna
follow these tracks and see if we can figure this out.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Really, they're all.

Speaker 10 (20:10):
Around these casgage, I'll tell you what. They're all around
these cascades. I really believe that now.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Oh, I'll tell you one hundred percent. Dudes like this.
Last time in July, I went up north of Oak Ridge.
I drove through Lieberg and McKinsey Bridge and a crossover
to Sisters. Dude, once you get up there, man, it's
like there's no one's gonna save you. You're on your own, dude,
it's crazy.

Speaker 10 (20:38):
Oh you get up above Sisters up in there, you know,
around Clear Lake and all those areas up there. I
mean there is that's such secluded forest up there.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Absolutely that.

Speaker 10 (20:49):
I mean, if there are big poots there there, you know,
I believe that. I definitely do.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
One hundred percent. There's so many places in Oregon I
want to get you that it's it's it's hard to
get any anywhere else.

Speaker 10 (21:03):
And I'm almost done cooking right now. I probably should
let you go, buddy.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Absolutely, talk you mind if you buddy? Can I use
the audio from this in the podcast? Are you cool
with that?

Speaker 9 (21:15):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (21:15):
Yeah, all right, permission?

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
All right, sir. It's been great. Hopefully talk to you later. Man. Yeah,
you got it, buddy, all right, Tom's Tom's a good guy.
You can tell he's a good guy.

Speaker 8 (21:35):
Hey man, how you doing good?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
How are you doing, sir?

Speaker 8 (21:41):
I'm doing well. Hey.

Speaker 11 (21:43):
I got a little story for you, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, Hey,
I live in East Texas in the Davy Crockett National Force. Sure,
a couple of years ago, I was hunting and I
was home, and I had a dough walk up on

(22:03):
me and everything. And she was eating corn and stuff
like that, and all of a sudden her head perked up.
She was looking around, and all of a sudden she jetted.
And when she jetted, there was something about eight foot
tall that jumped her and everything. I mean, I don't

(22:24):
know if you got her or whatever, but he was
about eight foot tall. He was brownish gray. I don't
know what I saw, but I know what I saw
wasn't natural. And if you keep up with the Davy

(22:46):
Crockett National Forest, that's where a lot of the Gulf
Coast bigfoot research people come out, yep. And man, what
I saw.

Speaker 8 (22:57):
Was a bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Oh oh my goodness.

Speaker 11 (23:01):
I don't I don't have a whole bunch to say
about it, but I just want to say, man, it's
something that that gave me the chills.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
And he was about eight foot tall.

Speaker 11 (23:09):
Couldn't see his face, he was just brownish gray, and
he was in the Davy Crockett National Forest.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Sure, I'll tell you you're not the first I've heard that
have had things happen in that forest for sure? Uh,
in that area, East Texas is a wild area. Have
you heard anything over by Boak and Springs and Angelina
National Forest?

Speaker 8 (23:33):
What National Forest?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Angelina by Zabala?

Speaker 11 (23:37):
Yeah that's yeah, Angelina National Forest, Davy Crockett National Forest.

Speaker 8 (23:43):
Everything.

Speaker 11 (23:44):
I know there's a lot of stuff going on around Livingston,
Texas and everything, but uh, yeah, I wasn't sticking around,
you know, he was on that doze, but like like,
I mean, he was owner like quick and yeah, man,

(24:07):
I love what you're doing and everything, but we do
have these things around here and people need to be careful.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh yes, sir, absolutely, yep. Absolutely. Hey, you know, do
you mind if I use the audio from this conversation
in the Bigfoot podcast?

Speaker 8 (24:25):
I have absolutely?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Man, all right, all right, well thank you for coming up.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Are you a hunter yourself? Do you go out looking
for them?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
So I'll tell you it's an interesting thing because it
started out talking to people, and uh, it's very engaging,
and it has gotten to the point where I've gone
out in places in Oregon and I go out to
places in Iowa where I'm from, and the line kind
of becomes blurry right between. I would see journalist and

(25:02):
researcher at times.

Speaker 11 (25:05):
Right, well, man, you need to come to East Texas
and check it out and everything around deer seas and everything.
So uh yeah, a man, Hey, we're full of them.
I have a neighbor that lives out in the Brass
River bottom and everything, and she has been run out
of her house by one that just she it's run

(25:31):
her out of her house. I mean it beats on
the it beats on the side of her house and everything.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
And this lays about eighty years old.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh my goodness, that's gonna stop.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Yeah. I mean.

Speaker 11 (25:47):
I have some people around here that kind of bait
them a little bit with apples and oranges and stuff
like that and everything. But I don't know of anything
in the Davy Crockett National Forest where they're doing that.
But that day changed my life. These things are real.
They're out there.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I would love to talk to that lady. She needs help.
I might be able to get her some help.

Speaker 11 (26:16):
Hey, that would be awesome, man. Yeah, because we're right
here on the Trinity River. Well, I'm about fifteen miles
from them, but she lives in the bottom of the
river and everything, and this thing has scared her to do.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
My email's big Foot Society at gmail dot com. I
can give you a phone number right now too, if
that might be easier for Okay, it's just let me
know if you're able to make a note of it.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
Yeah, let me get a pin real quick.

Speaker 11 (26:53):
Okay, all right, won't you tell me what's your number?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's five and five uh five oh five five one five.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Uh one uh ato nine oh one six five oh one?

Speaker 8 (27:19):
Uh and where you're at? You're in hour yep Iowa.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
An easy thing she could do is start putting up
a few game cams around her house.

Speaker 8 (27:29):
No, let's already run her out of herrow.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh she won't go back.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
No, she ain't going back.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Oh brother, Yeah it's bad.

Speaker 8 (27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (27:43):
Whenever you start getting comfortable around something, are gonna come
visit you?

Speaker 8 (27:48):
Mm hmm, Joe.

Speaker 11 (27:51):
But yeah, man, I just want to share my little
story with you about the Davy Crockett National Force and everything.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
Man.

Speaker 11 (27:57):
I appreciate you listening, Thank you for your phone up
number and everything. But if you ever get a chance,
come to David Crockett National Forest in Houston County, Texas.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Come on, all right, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, all right,
well thank you for coming up.

Speaker 9 (28:12):
Man.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
Oh absolutely, thank you for listening. Buddy man.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
That was legit. That was a good dude. That was
a good dude. Feel bad for that. Uh, I feel
bad for that lady though. Hey Joseph, how are you, sir?

Speaker 9 (28:33):
Doing good?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
How are you defeeling doing well? What brings you up today?

Speaker 9 (28:38):
Well? I just thought I want to share a couple
of accounts I been seen between Texas and Washington State.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Okay, well, I don't know you like which state you
want to hear first, I'll let you choose.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
Well, I'll b by Texas. I was I was twenty
five at the time, and I had to get to
work one morning and I was waiting at but stuff.
It was like five am and it was still dark
and everything. As I was waiting for the bus. You know,
it is only it's like an outskirts of town. And

(29:23):
I heard this tree knock because it across me there
was you know a bunch of forests and stuff like that. Yes,
I had for this, but I trailed their homes and
other stuff people people live in. So anyways, I heard
the tree knocks and I ignored it at first. And
as time went on, like thirty or forty five minutes later,

(29:47):
big uh. I'm not saying a big giant boulder, but
it was a good sized rock. It was thrown like
at me, but barredy missed me, and so I went.
I walked towards where the rock was thrown from, and
I asked, and I shout, and I said, anyone there

(30:10):
her tree knock again. And then at the same time,
another rock was doing at me. This time I had
to move. It was going towards me, so I decided
to do I got the same, well not not exactly
the same rock, but another good sized rock. I decided
to throw the rock back at it, and I'm sure

(30:34):
I hit it, and it really pissed this thing off.
And they are a good grunt and I moved towards it.
As I was moving towards it, I see the yellow
beam eyes and reddish hair. It was around seven to

(30:54):
eight feet tall. And when I saw this thing, I
grabbed another rock and a stick. I just starts doing shit,
and it just it took off.

Speaker 13 (31:06):
And.

Speaker 9 (31:07):
I believe I was being challenged. I was challenging a
sasquash because it went so fast it could scoot and
one and the other time I was in Washington state.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Before you start Washington, what part of Texas was this in?
Do you mind sharing that.

Speaker 9 (31:29):
It was in the outskirts of San Antonio?

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Really, wow?

Speaker 9 (31:34):
It was between. It was between the outskirts between it's
going out between the I forgot what interstate, but I
used to live in the little town between Elmador, Texas
and Santorini, Texas. I live in the outskirts of town
of the south side of San Antonio, and you know
I used to live right there, and that's when my

(31:56):
first encounter happened. Like I said, I was only twenty
five at the time, I was young. So if you
and if I may, I could start my watching a
state one.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
If you don't mind, go right ahead, go right ahead.

Speaker 9 (32:09):
This has happened in twenty thirteen. My daughter was like
one at a time, and we went camping and her
and her mother were cooking, and her mom came up

(32:29):
to me. She goes, she goes, bab, I'm like, what
she goes, there's a gofill smell, like a stench. I
was like, I smelled too, So I decided went over
there hellone again, like I always do. This time I
heard instead of throwing rocks at me, I was just

(32:51):
getting another tree knock. So I got a stick. I
decided to do a tree knock again, and I'm like,
oh boy, I told myself round two. I told myself,
I hope that's not the same one. I mean at
this time, I ain't took a good look at this one,
but I did the most loudest tree knocks and it

(33:12):
kept knocking. And once at these tree knocks, it got
closer and closer, it sounded like I was surrounded, like
it was all around me this time. So this time,
I well, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I pissed
him off, though, well because I'm the type of guy
who stands his ground, so I had to pee really value.

(33:34):
So I pissed by a tree. And the dumbest thing,
the funniest thing, though, I was tree knock at the
same time I was. I was peen, and my wife
came up to me. She goes, what on earth are
you doing? And I said, beb whatever's out in these woods.
I'm telling it to stay at stay out of my hair,
so as I'm marking it. And she thought it was crazy.

(33:58):
And later on that night we were sleeping again, we
heard all a bunch of tree knocks like they were pissed,
not just I, I guess I pissed in the tree.
It got to a point that we had to get
out of there because it was just like too much,
and I really pissed them off. I suppose.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Literally and figuratively. What part of Washington was this?

Speaker 8 (34:27):
Then?

Speaker 9 (34:30):
It was like it was in the outskirts of Shacklepy Scape. Yeah, Shock,
I mean not Shackapy. Oh, I remember the name. What

(34:51):
was it?

Speaker 13 (34:52):
No?

Speaker 9 (34:52):
I was sorry, it wasn't Shock, it was it was
the outside the coma. And that's when I decided, I
mean myself as an independent paranormal investigator. But I'm just
doing out in the Midwest right now. So I'm out
of the Midwest and I'm doing my own investigation and

(35:12):
I just did just gotten doing a ghost hunting one
in a small town called Elberty, Minnesota. It was a
hot theater and this place used to be a hospital
for the Spanish flu back in the nineteen twenties and
the twenty six years. One died there of complication of

(35:33):
the flu. And this most activity happened in the basement,
so I recorded some sounds and stuff and not much
but just the life flickering. But all I got was
culture and I know something was there. And I don't
think that Labe was going to do harm. She just
didn't want to leave. And the person came up to

(35:58):
me the other day wants me to do an investigation,
to go to Wisconsin do investigation the beef and great Road.
So that's my next assignment.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Well that's great. Yeah, that'd be a fun one man
that that gets so wild up there.

Speaker 9 (36:13):
So but yeah, I decided to call myself the Midwest
Monster Hunter. I love it. I love it, dude, because
you know, yeah, like if they're going to groove, I
do so low.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Gotcha, Well, dude, keep us, keep us in the loop
with what happens next for you. But you know, right,
if I use this conversation audio and my big SI podcast.

Speaker 9 (36:42):
Please most certainly get get my story out there and
I could become known. And I just followed you, and
you know, like I said, though, there's always something out
there bumping in the night, and we are now alone
in this whole planet. That's one thing that's one's for
sure though.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, absolutely I agree with that. Welldge, Joseph, thank you
for coming up. Man, I am going to check them
with thank you.

Speaker 9 (37:07):
Thank you for giving me the opportunity. You have a
good name.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
I don't have a good Yeah.

Speaker 8 (37:11):
There.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
How are you doing today? I'm doing good? How are
you great?

Speaker 8 (37:15):
Great?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
What brings you up?

Speaker 8 (37:16):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (37:18):
H Well, I just wanted to share my story. I'm
from eastern Kentucky, Okay. Last year, we was out riding
cyb asides and uh we come off a reclaimed strip
job down into a deep hollor we call it dark collar.
And my friend and his wife was in front of

(37:38):
me and they have a little bit bigger of a
cyb a side set up a little bit better, and
they went through this mud hole and I had my
two boys with me, so I kind of took a
different way and I got I got held up. I
had to move some a little bit of brush to
get through the creek, and they was on ahead of me.

(37:59):
And when I was moving the brush, they come speeding
back and Uh, my buddy, Chris, he jumps out. He says, man,
we gotta get out of here. And I said, what's
going on?

Speaker 9 (38:08):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (38:09):
He said, something is hollering on both sides of the
hills and down there. He said, I don't know what
he is. And I'm thinking maybe it's just some kind
of owl or something, or it's just somebody messing with him.
And so we get the brush cleared and I jump
on him my side a side and I get up
on earth creek and I kind of pass him up
and I just watch watch behind me there, you know,

(38:34):
to see where you know, he was stopped at. And
he told me to stop, and we shut off the
side of sides there and I stepped out and uh,
we was on on down the creek there, and uh,
something gets thrown about kim foot from their side to side,
and it's just like a stick or something. And I

(38:57):
pull out my glock and I shot two shots took
there and I kind of went about walked about ten
feet up on the bank and a rock goes whizzing
right by the side of my head. I mean it,
they this thing through it so hard, man, you could
hear it like wiz by my ear. And just as

(39:17):
soon as it did, man, it led out a big,
big howl, like a screeching howl.

Speaker 9 (39:22):
Man.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
And I knew write them what it was, you know,
because I was kind of a skeptic or whatever. And
I've heard stories, but I wasn't going to stick around.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
I had my boys in the side beside and they
was already spooked and we got out there, dude, And
that was my experience.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
It's a different situation, especially when you got family involved
or friends. And you said it was an eastern Kentucky
was it a.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yeah, it's right at the Johnson Johnson Martin Floyd County line.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Okay, gotcha. Well I looked that up real quick. I
can have an idea.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
And uh, that buddy that was riding with me, he
actually works for Pocahontas Trail Development Company, and uh, he's
got a picture. They him and his buddy was going
through there and they was mapping trails and they they
got a picture of one bigfoot right down the railroad tracks.

(40:27):
It's like some railroad tracks that's not in you know,
in service. And I'm trying to get a hold of
him right now and have him send that picture to me.
And when he does, I'll send you the picture.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh man, I mean, if you could, that would be incredible. Yeah, yeah,
no problem.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
That next weekend, Uh, you know, when I tell my
boy's home to the mom me and me and Chris
went back up here and I took my rifle with
me and everything. And we've seen a couple of footprints
in the mud, but they kind of look like human footprints.
They wasn't very It's about the size of my foot

(41:08):
about it, ten to twelve inch princh, you know, not
very wide.

Speaker 8 (41:13):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
It could have been a juvenile. I'm sure nobody's up
there with with no with no shoes on.

Speaker 9 (41:23):
I'm well, the.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Thing, yeah, that is the thing. Well, man, you are
you are having some wild stuff happened out there, you know,
gept be sure in the loop if stuff continues to
happen when you go out. But is this a conversation
I can use on my podcast?

Speaker 8 (41:40):
Absolutely? All right?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Cool, Well, thank you Adam for coming up man, no problem, Yeah,
mister hook, how's it going.

Speaker 14 (41:50):
I'm all right. I'm sixty five years old. So when
I'm eighteen nineteen years old, and even before that, probably
seventeen sixteen, me and my fishing buddy used to go
to a place. I don't know if you know where

(42:12):
Marshall County, Iowa is.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
At Marshall County, I believe so. But let me look
real quick.

Speaker 14 (42:19):
The Iowa River runs through marsh Marshalltown. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,
So the Iowa River runs you'll see a little town
of Albion, and there's a long ago river it's called
Mormon Ridge. The reason it's called Mormon Ridge is when

(42:40):
the Mormons went out to where they're at now, they
got held up one winter and a lot of lost
their life here on this bridge. And I used to
fish this bridge called Indian Bridge. Now he got his
name because there was an Indian settlement just off the

(43:04):
side of this bridge many many years ago. So me
and my buddy fish are quite often. And it started
out we would it be around, you know, it'd be
well after dark or trying to fish all night. And

(43:27):
the first time I had to encounter was an owl
booted and all of a sudden, I heard this screen
I've never heard before in my life. And within I'm
going to say within two minutes, it was like it

(43:48):
was right underneath us on this bridge, and it was
very scary, very traumatic. I mean it was loud enough
that I didn't us stay there. We left.

Speaker 8 (44:04):
I went back.

Speaker 14 (44:04):
Before I was an amateur radio operator, I parked my
van on a bridge, was talking to my friends while fishing,
and it came back. It ran me off that night.
I didn't even rew my pulls up. I just shut
the doors and took off. So then one other time,

(44:28):
there's a night that me and another gentleman walked to
about a mile and a half back to a feeder
creek that feeds into the Iowa River. And we were
on a sandbar and there was a big curve and
that bank on the other side was probably twelve to
thirteen feet high. And after our fire night out that night,

(44:54):
this thing came out on this tree that had warshed
out into the river and fell into the river. It
went out on that tree, grabbed this branch and was
slamming it into the water, which we're right across from it.
And I'm telling you, you talk about being scared, and

(45:18):
we're back there with flashlights. So to leave was I mean,
it was dramatic, and the sound that it made I'll
never forget. And when I told the story to my
friends and people here around it, NA, you're kidding, You're
kidd And that didn't happen. So there was four carloads

(45:41):
of us guys that go out there one night and
I told them, I said, you just wait, and that
owl sound came again, and the same thing happened with
the scream of this what I know was bigfoot, and

(46:02):
it got to a point where I don't even I
don't even want to I didn't even want to go
back and to.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
Be out there.

Speaker 14 (46:09):
It put all of us on our I mean we
basically duck and ran to our vehicles to lead and
it was pretty traumatic. And it's been known for him
to for it to frequent that area. And you're not

(46:31):
far from me, because you're in five to one five
area because so I'm assuming you're in Story County or.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
I'll tell you this, I'm on the other side of
the Moine, but not too far.

Speaker 14 (46:43):
Okay, Well, i'll tell you what. I could take you
out there, and I guarantee you you'd have an experience. Really,
I'm in the U six four to one area code,

(47:06):
like I said, from the State Center, I'm just more
and it runs that river and the Iowa River, and
it is scared the heck out of me many times,
and it's I haven't been out there in probably twenty years,

(47:30):
but I grant you it's still there. I know it is.
And to be out there alone or to be with
a buddy and be out on that bridge and to
have it do what it done to us. I mean,
it just make your hair stand up. The scream alone

(47:50):
was you could hear it probably for a mile, and
all of a sudden it sounds like it's right underneath
a bridge.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
News that fun that the screams.

Speaker 8 (48:03):
Eighties.

Speaker 14 (48:05):
Yeah, it would have been, well, I'm sixty five now,
so it would have been in the eighties, Okay, yeah,
the late eighties or early Yeah, the late eighties, because
I would have been I was in my twenties and
thirties when I was going out there. You know, it
started even when I was younger as seventeen. That's where

(48:27):
we fished. But once it got in the area, every
time I can't figure out why the owl is with it.
You hear the owl, and after the owl, lookout with
all Hell's gonna break loose because it's like it's some

(48:49):
I don't know if it's a messenger, if it's it
doing the.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Owl sound or what.

Speaker 14 (48:54):
But the scream that it makes and the noise it makes,
I don't want a.

Speaker 13 (49:01):
Part of it.

Speaker 14 (49:03):
I don't want to face with it. And when we
were out there. We were back to almost a mile
and a half two miles back in September and following
this feeder creek that feeds into the Iowa River, and
that bank is nine feet tall, ten feet tall, and

(49:24):
it's three o'clock in the morning, and the fires died
down and we don't have any more wood to put
on it, and this thing is lashing out at the water.
It's a it's a stick because we heard we heard
it break it and all of a sudden it just
starts slamming the water.

Speaker 8 (49:45):
And it was just, yeah, it was.

Speaker 14 (49:49):
It wanted us.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Out of there, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Man.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I mean, people don't realize how crazy Iowa can get
for bigfoot stuff, especially the Des Moines River. I also
has some crazy stories from over the years, all the
way down to Missy Border.

Speaker 8 (50:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (50:06):
I wouldn't want to come face it, I can tell
you that. And I don't understand why what it has
to do with the owl that I've taken many people
out there and I've told them you wait, it'll show up,
and it's sure enough, there's that owl sound and then

(50:32):
there's that screen.

Speaker 8 (50:35):
And it's just.

Speaker 14 (50:39):
It's hard to describe.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
And some some wild wild stuff, mister hook, thank you
so much for coming up. Do you mind if I
use this conversation for my podcast I have?

Speaker 14 (50:53):
I don't care, all right, I'll tell you what. You
ever want to get scared or you ever want to
try to have an encounter, look me up. I'm glad
to take you off.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm going to follow you just so I have a
contact for you. But thank you so much. Man, All right,
enjoy it, guys, and you have a good one.

Speaker 14 (51:18):
You two thinks?

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Hey Brian, how are you?

Speaker 8 (51:23):
Hey? Brother?

Speaker 7 (51:24):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
What brings us?

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Just jumped on here and was looking at some lives
and noticed that you were doing a Bigfoot live. And
I don't ever get on these. I don't. I don't
follow these a whole lot because I've had experiences in
my life and anytime you try to tell somebody something
you know exactly how that goes, well, you have actually

(51:54):
to get a hold of me. You probably read some
of my comments.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I saw one of them that was pretty interesting.

Speaker 7 (52:03):
Yeah. So back in oh my gosh, it was I'm
fifty two now when I heard when I my first experience,
and uh I was I believe at that time I
was ten maybe eleven. I think I was eleven years

(52:25):
old and my buddy was a couple of years older
than I was. We all had a lived in rural
Missouri and you know, played in the woods.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
We were still familiar with the.

Speaker 7 (52:36):
Woods we were we work with all the time, squirrel hunting,
rabbit hunt and whatever. One day we were playing out
in the yard, jumping bikes over ramps and you know,
having a good time like kids do, and we decided
we're just going to go to the woods, because that's
what we did all the time. Well, the woods after
we crossed into into the wood part, they were different.

Speaker 8 (53:01):
There.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
There were things different. Stephen and I I'll never forget this.
My buddy, Steve and I both stopped and we were like,
what is going on? Trees were bent over, there were
it was just something that we'd never seen. We've been
We grew up in those woods, you know what I mean.
We knew those woods like the back of our hands.

(53:23):
And there was something different going on and these trees
and they were young, you know, kind of young trees.
They were bent over and out of nowhere. And there's
people that believe different things about Bigfoot. This came out

(53:47):
of nowhere. Steve and I both stopped. I'll never forget this.
We both stopped because the woods were different, and all
of the sudden, out of these bent over trees, it
was like, and I know this is gonna sound really weird,

(54:10):
it was like something opened up and jumped out of
like I don't even know it, like a portal maybe you.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Know as an older and just crashed.

Speaker 7 (54:26):
I mean such a loud crash, maybe fifty feet ahead
of us. Scared us to death, and I will never
forget what it looked like. And we turned around to
run and everything was in slow motion. I mean it

(54:48):
was like we could not get away fast enough. And
the there was like some sort of a weird it's
hard to explain, like I had almost like a magnetism,
like a some it was like over the top of us.

Speaker 8 (55:06):
It was.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
It was crazy. And it wasn't until we hit the
tree line to where the houses were back in the country,
to where it all just went away. And that was
the first I'm going to call that a bigfoot experience
because what we saw was a huge What we saw

(55:34):
and heard was a huge, hairy something man looking beast
ape huge, and it just came out of nowhere. It
came out of like a just a space and just
landed in front of it with a big, huge crash wow,

(55:55):
and it was it was just so I'll never forget this,
and Steve and I have not. This is the first
I've ever talked about it, and I don't know why
I was drawn to your show. I have not mentioned
this in detail to anybody over the years. Well, my
wife knows, my kids know about it. I mean, you know,

(56:16):
close people. But I don't go out and talk about this.
I mean, I mean, that's something that was very personal
and very scary and horrifying. Steven will not talk about
it to this day. I mean, it's just something that
we don't share with people because it was so out
of the ordinary and just so I've learned a lot

(56:38):
since then because I did a lot of bigfoot research
and I've done UFO research everything else. Now, that was
the first experience whenever I was like eleven, so in
nineteen I believe it was nineteen ninety six. I think
I used to do some storm chasing. I graduated back

(56:59):
in nineteen ninety one. Used to do some storm chasing.
I've been in radio, I've been in broadcasting, for years,
thirty two years, and so I was doing some storm
chasing and in South Missouri there was, oh my gosh,
it was tornadoes running just rampant everywhere they were. It

(57:20):
was like a breakout. And I was going down to
Twin Bridges. I don't know, there's some people may know
about Twin Bridges and in Missouri, but was driving through
that area and things were flooding, things were just blowing around.
I mean it was crazy, just crazy. And I was

(57:41):
going around a corner and Twin Bridges is a there's
a canoe rental area down there, and I actually had
in mind to check on some canoe prices because someboddies
of mine wanted to go canoeing this, that, and the other.
And I thought, well, this is perfect because I'm headed
that way to chase storms. So I thought i'd stopped
by the canoe rental place and just kind of see

(58:02):
what they had going on. But right at that time,
they had some tornadoes going on in that area. Whenever
I went around this corner down by where the river was,
things were getting flooded out, trees were blowing over. I mean,
it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Oh I think, Brian, I think you may have muted
yourself by accident. Oh no, man, just when it was
getting good. We'll give him a minute to see if
you can figure it out, hopefully.

Speaker 7 (58:49):
I oh my god, it took my breath, but I
knew it was a female because you could see the
breast area.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
And Brian, I apologize, you've muted for the last like
half a minute. Oh shoot, yeah. So the last thing
I heard was like, you were looking into rental canoes.

Speaker 7 (59:09):
Yes, yes, And we were storm chasing and looking into
rental canoes down on the Twin It was there now okay,
and the tornado was storm chasing at that time. I
reported back to the weather station. All the and up

(59:30):
a hill. It was a steep grade walks this bigfoot.
It was a female. You could she was holding hands
with a baby. A small well, he wasn't small, I
mean he was like he or she whatever. It was
like four foot tall. They were holding hands and they

(59:52):
were coming up the hill.

Speaker 8 (59:54):
That was so steep.

Speaker 7 (59:56):
You and I could not walk up this hill. I mean,
there is no way, and I mean that's a hill
that if you wrecked your car around. I mean it
was like a twenty five mile prior corner kind of
hill down to the canoe rental place, and that was
the first female that I'd ever seen. You could tell

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by the breast, and I mean that was and it
took my breath away. I didn't even catch my breath
til I got down to the actual canoe rental place.
I'll never forget it. It's burned a place in my brain.
She was holding its hand and they were walking up
that freaking hill. That's not what's wild. Here is what's wild.

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Whenever I pulled down to the canoe rental place, there
was some old timers in there. You know, it was
like one of those places where people just.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Kind of hung out.

Speaker 7 (01:00:52):
What steps this old guy, this gentleman, was outside and
he looks at me and he says, are you okay?
And I said, I just saw something up the hill
and he says to me, was at Bigfoot And I said, I.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
Think it was.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
And he opens the door and hollers in there, and
like three guys come running out and apparently they had
experiences or something. I don't know, but these three guys
run out and they all go somewhere I don't know.
I just stepped out of my car to breathe, You
know what I mean, because that experience took my breath.

(01:01:35):
I mean, I didn't even it was crazy. I could
have rolled down my window and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Oh no, mut it again.

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
Thrown there.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Yeah, they took off. I don't know if they ever
found nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:02:04):
I went in, I bought a soda and the clerk
was kind of in on it, and he was like,
what did you see?

Speaker 8 (01:02:10):
And I told him what I saw.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
And I got my soda and I went home. I
went to visit my mom.

Speaker 8 (01:02:16):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Chasing storms, you know, and it's wild. I think I
may have missed a part. So the three guys that
went running, where did they go running to?

Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
I don't know they headed? Yeah, I would, dude, I
was so taken back. I would. I mean, I was
out of breath, you know what I mean. I was
so whenever I pulled down to the canoe rental place,
I didn't I didn't even ask for prices.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
So that's a canoe rental placed at three Bridges, Missouri.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
Yeah, well it's twin Bridges in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
A twin Bridge. Sorry, yeah, it's.

Speaker 7 (01:02:59):
Yeah, it's done around. Oh god, I used to know
that area so well, but I've I've been up the
northern part since and but it's got twim bred if.
In fact, if you google twin Bridges Canoe rental, yeah,
it take your right because they're down there and it's

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so squatchy.

Speaker 8 (01:03:24):
I pstaly it is that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Area, gotcha? Okay, Yeah, that's might look. Might look and
said the first story you had with the portal is
that is that southern Missouri as well?

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
Yeah, that's the West Plains area, just outside of West Plains.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Okay, I just want to look at it real clear.
Oh sure, Yeah, Okay, that's awesome. I haven't had anything
from that area yet, but that's good to know. Awesome. Wow,
thank you for sharing what you've experienced over the years.
I really appreciate that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:16):
Yeah, I appreciate you and your show. And like I said,
I don't share a lot because, you know, after the
storm chasing thing, I started doing some bigfoot investigation. I
started doing some us UFO investigations and different things like that,
and come to find out, over the years the two

(01:04:37):
kind of go hand in hand. I haven't quite figured
out that missing link yet, and I don't have time.
I'm fifty two now. I did a lot of investigation
and I've found a lot of things out, and I
mean it's too much to share here, but I have
been around some places like Northview, Missouri, when they had

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that big sighting down there of UFOs. There was also
which was not reported. The UFO siding was reported as
a hoax. However, there's more things about that, but there
was also some bigfoot sightings at the same time, and
that was never reported. I found that out from some

(01:05:23):
locals because I used to go to interviews, this, that,
and the other. And I have found out over the
years with my investigation. I've been broadcasting forever, like half
my life or more, but I have found out that
a lot of the times UFO reports and bigfoot reports

(01:05:46):
kind of go hand in hand. So there is a
missing link there somewhere that we kind of need to
figure out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
You know, I agree one hundred percent. There's a lot
of people don't realize that there's bigfoot reports in the
mof ON database. From what I've heard, Oh right, yeah, yeah,
it's just it's wild. It's wild man, Brian. This has
been just a really really fun conversation. Is it one

(01:06:16):
where I know that you don't share this a lot.
Would I be able to use the audio from it
on my podcast. If not, that's no problem.

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
Yeah, I hope you're a good editor. I probably stuttered
a lot, or would. I just have never shared my stories.
Anytime that I try to do some there's always trolls.
Some reason. I've found yours on here tonight and I
just had some free time, and first I just watched
it and was listening to it, and I thought, you

(01:06:47):
know what, I might the whole portal thing. That's the
one that I don't share with anybody because nobody believes that.
Nobody believes that that first experience that was that Bigfoot
did not come from the ground, that it came from
somewhere else. And Stephen, Stephen and I seen it with

(01:07:09):
our own eyes. It came from this somewhere the sky,
between the trees whatever it we there was an actual light.
I mean it was it sounds like a movie and
it was. It was actually came out of something I

(01:07:30):
don't know what, and whenever it came through, it crashed
so loud in front of us that we I mean,
I can't even explain it. And that's why I never
have until tonight, because nobody would believe it. I can't
just come face to face with somebody and explain it
because I can't you you can't imagine what it was,

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you know what I mean. It's like all of our
little tree I mean, we know these woods like the
back of our hands, and all these trees were turned
and bent like in a U shape. They met each other,
these younger trees, some of them were older. We knew
these woods like the back of our hands. And when
we got to that part of the woods, we did

(01:08:16):
not recognize and we stopped. And then all of a sudden,
something came from somewhere and just exploded, with this creature
coming out and landed in front of us. I mean,
it shook everything and we turned to run but couldn't run.

(01:08:42):
Steven and I will both tell you today we were
running as fast as we could. I remember the woods
going by, but I also remember just not being able
to get anywhere. And Steven would say the same thing,
but he don't talk about it either. And until we

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hit the clearing, until we cleared the woods. Right when
we hit that wood edge and hit the clearing, that's
when everything went off. And Steve and I were both
running full speak. I mean, we were kids. We were like,
what was that, but we were being chased by a
monster that came out of nowhere, came out of not

(01:09:26):
the woods, came out of a freaking circle, came out
of a pumple. You know, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
It's an incredible story, for sure. I just want to
double check. Would I be able to be cleared to
use the conversation or what? Do you think?

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
You know what? Go ahead and use it because I'm
fifty to you and I've never shared it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Brian, thank you so much for coming and for sharing
publicly what you experienced. I appreciate it. I'm going to
check in with some other people, but it's been good
stalking to you today, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:10:10):
Thank you all right, thank you for having me on.
Just edit me good okay, you gottare all right? Brother,
all right, brother, check in with you soon.

Speaker 8 (01:10:19):
I'm going to follow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Thank you all right, good good stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:10:24):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
What I can't imagine keeping that in for more than
forty forty years. Hey, Karen, how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:10:36):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
I'm doing okay.

Speaker 13 (01:10:37):
I apologize for sending a request earlier and then chickening out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Oh you're okay.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
I've never done this before, so bear with me.

Speaker 13 (01:10:52):
I've had two experiences little backstory. I'm I'm a real
time I was born a tomboy, used to go fishing
all the time with my dad. My first experience happened
when I was with my dad and I was about
twelve years old. I'm sixty years old now, and I'll

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share the location on this one because it was so
long ago. We were at Table Rock Lake down in
the Ozarks. We vacationed there every year. My dad would
save us time up, you know, and we'd go for
a long period of time, like a month, and we
were fishing real early in the morning. My dad had

(01:11:39):
a health condition and he would kind of randomly fall asleep.
My mom, you know, go fishing with your dad, which
I wanted to go anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:11:48):
So we go out there.

Speaker 13 (01:11:49):
It's about five thirty six o'clock in the morning, and
we have a little trolling motor on the boat.

Speaker 7 (01:11:54):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:11:54):
We're going back into a cove. And as we got
back into this cove, I heard something. I just assumed
it was like deer or something, and I think my
dad did too. And my dad was an outdoorsman, and
we kind of got back into that cove, you know,
and we were going to rest a little bit and
do a little fishing back in there, and I think

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we got too close in because something yelled.

Speaker 6 (01:12:22):
At us that was so loud. I just remember that.

Speaker 13 (01:12:29):
Years later, I went to a concert and that like
vibration in your chest from the base. It was almost
like that. It was unbelievably loud. And it was the
first time I ever heard my dad drop the F bomb.
He didn't know what it was, scared the living daylights

(01:12:52):
out of me, and I just remember him being like,
the effing paddle, the trolling motor wasn't getting us out
of there fast enough.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
He never told my mom.

Speaker 13 (01:13:06):
He's like, don't, don't say anything about it, and I
never did until years later when I had my second experience,
which was only three years ago. Oh wow, if it's okay,

(01:13:27):
I don't want to share the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Location, that's fine, yep.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
But I live in Illinois and I actually live.

Speaker 13 (01:13:37):
Just south of Pekan in a rural area, a little
rural town, and uh, there's been a lot of sightings
I know up in the peak in Peoria area a time.
One of them was really weird because that that remember
that one of that truck driver that was like a

(01:13:58):
mail guy or something, and he was one by Glasgow, Illinois,
like in the morning, and it was.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
Like in the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Yeah, he's come on this live before to talk about it.

Speaker 13 (01:14:10):
Actually, that morning was the same morning of a of
a thing we have here called the Spoon River Drive, Okay,
and that morning, about an hour and a half later,
my daughter, her best friend, and myself went right down
that same road. But I didn't know that there was

(01:14:31):
Obviously I didn't know there was a sighting that morning.
But yeah, later on that same day we were going
down there as part of the Spoon River Drive because
we were garage sailing and antiquing and what have you,
and we were going to glass Glasgow, I think, is
how you pronounce it, and that was.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
That was kind of weird.

Speaker 13 (01:14:49):
I was like, oh my gosh, I was glad I
was with my daughter and her friend and we had
seen a sasquatch because I think they both would have
we would have had to come home because they would
have soiled themselves.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
I'm sure too.

Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
But my experience was I'm a rockhounder, like I said,
I'm a real tomboy, and I don't know if you
get a lot of rockhounders that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
Have called in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
A few of them yep.

Speaker 13 (01:15:17):
Because you know that takes us out in the deep woods,
not on a trail. And this is something that I do.
And I can tell you what state.

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
I was in. I was in Arkansas, Okay.

Speaker 13 (01:15:34):
I had gone there with one friend and we had
kind of taken off that morning and in an area
kind of he went one way and I ended up
going another. And a small little part of this story,
but I can't help but feel like it added to it.

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The one girl that was there that that kind of
she works in the area. And there was a raccoon
that had had babies in a woodpile and they had
cleared them out of the woodpile. And I'm guessing the
mother must have either taken off scared and didn't come back,
or ran back into the woodpile. I don't know, but

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I know they had these babies, they bottle fed them.
They all took off except for one. And that one
raccoon that day, that little baby raccoon really wanted to
go with me.

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
So she's like hanging onto my pant leg.

Speaker 13 (01:16:34):
I ended up picking her up, sticking her up on
my shoulder, and taking off. Walked off out in the woods,
got on the side of like, I was kind of
down in.

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
Kind of like a it was almost like a.

Speaker 13 (01:16:50):
Little gully or pit or whatever, and I was I
was doing some mining, and I'm making a lot of noise.
I'm slammed, banging around, and every so often I am
having a little conversation with this baby raccoon because she
was really trying to get to my sandwiches that were
in my backpack, which I ended up sharing one with her,

(01:17:15):
and probably, gosh, I would say probably two hours into
the time I was down there, I was kind of
paying more attention to what I was doing, but I
started to like, I smelled something that did not smell

(01:17:39):
very good, and I remember I picked her up and
looked at her, and I kind of brought her in
close to me and I was like, is that you
You haven't smelled like that all day?

Speaker 6 (01:17:50):
What's going on? Kind of thing?

Speaker 13 (01:17:52):
And I set her down, and of course she kept
running back up on me and stuff, and I was like, okay,
and so I give her some more of my sandwich
and I'm kind of talking to her and she keeps
looking off this one direction and I'm like, okay, well
it still stinks in the air, and I stand up

(01:18:14):
and I'm like, I'm down, Like, so this ridge is
kind of like kind of hiding me in a way.
But it was really really hot that day. It was
probably ninety eight degrees with one hundred and four heat index.

(01:18:34):
So any animal that would have been around there would
have smelled me too, I would imagine. But I kind
of like, I pop my head up to take a
look around, and there was a sasquatch behind a tree,

(01:18:58):
looking out from behind the tree at us, and it
was high enough up on the ridge that it saw us.
And I looked at it, and it looked at me,

(01:19:20):
and it put its head back behind the tree. And
the tree wasn't big enough to hide the whole creature
I'm gonna call, I say creature.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
The hardest part for me has been.

Speaker 13 (01:19:45):
How much it looked like a man. I haven't been
able to wrap my head around it completely. And I
don't know why. I didn't feel like women have a

(01:20:12):
kind of a sixth sense.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
I mean we, and.

Speaker 13 (01:20:18):
I mean yeah, I don't think I was breathing for
a few but I didn't feel fear, and that doesn't
make much sense to me. And this happened three times.

(01:20:41):
He put his head back behind the tree, and I
sat back down, and I thought, my friend is not
even in screaming distance to me. I got no phone
because there's no signal out there anyway. My phone's in
my jeep, and I'm just like sitting down there, wondering,
like what I should do. I'm five five, one hundred

(01:21:07):
and fifteen pounds. I'm a little bitty thing.

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
I was.

Speaker 13 (01:21:14):
I was scared, but I wasn't scared, if that makes
any sense. A lot of it didn't make sense to me,
I guess. But so I sat there and all these
things went through my head, like if that thing has
been there the entire time I smelled it, it could

(01:21:35):
have came down here, picked me up, and carted me
away and there wouldn't have been jack nothing I could
have done about it. I popped my head back up,
and I don't know why I did this, but I mean,
this happened three times. I popped my head back up,

(01:21:59):
and it was looking back out from behind the tree
at me and the raccoon. And I looked at it.
I mean, I got a look in the face.

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
It had.

Speaker 13 (01:22:17):
Like an amber, like a brownish amber eye color, and
it wasn't black. It was brown like a darker brown,
and it was like hair, like it wasn't for it

(01:22:47):
was like hair. I don't know if anybody's ever said
that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Of people have a lot of people have.

Speaker 9 (01:22:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Wow, how far away from from it were you again?

Speaker 13 (01:23:03):
Oh god, I'm not very good with distance. Maybe gosh,
I don't know, five hundred feet wow. Like I saw
like I saw like his face and his like his shoulder.

(01:23:26):
He was like behind the tree and he was facing
to the side, so his body was like a profile
to me, and his head was turned and he was
leaning back. I saw like the side of like the
hip area, and a little bit of the leg because

(01:23:50):
I was looking up, so I did not see feet,
you know. And I didn't know what to do. And
I got back down, and I thought, I wonder, like what,

(01:24:10):
I don't feel uncomfortable to like walk away.

Speaker 6 (01:24:14):
I'm like frozen here. I didn't know what to do.

Speaker 13 (01:24:21):
And I looked back up again and it was still there,
but it wasn't looking out at me. So I got
back down, and then the third time it was like
I went down and then I popped right back up
again to see if he was like trying to time me,
you know what?

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
I mean.

Speaker 13 (01:24:41):
Like a pattern, like if I was going to come
back up soon. So I went down and then I
came back up soon and he was looking down at
us still, but he didn't hurry to go behind the tree,
especially like the third time. And I didn't know what

(01:25:01):
I like. I literally was like, I didn't know what
to do. There's not many times I'm like I said,
I'm kind.

Speaker 6 (01:25:13):
Of a tomboy. I kind of face things head on.

Speaker 13 (01:25:16):
I'm a lot of people probably would describe me as
being brave or bold. I kind of say what I think,
and I don't have a whole lot of a filter
sometimes and I just I was at a complete loss

(01:25:39):
as to what to do. I literally I volunteer at
a local dog shelter and sometimes with bigger dogs that
would be aggressive, I would sit with food and I
would talk to them and I would talk him into

(01:26:02):
letting me work with them.

Speaker 6 (01:26:05):
I didn't know what to do.

Speaker 13 (01:26:07):
And I was like when I stood back up and
it was there, I was like, And the funny thing
was was I said the same thing, which there would
be no way that I would be able to hurt
something like that, But I was like, should I talk
He's like hello, and it just looked at me, and

(01:26:29):
I'm like, I'm not going to hurt you. And he
looked at me for a minute, and then he put
his head back behind the tree and I just kind
of stood there for a second, and then I sat

(01:26:51):
back down in there, and then I heard him move away.

Speaker 6 (01:26:57):
He just went back into the woods.

Speaker 13 (01:27:01):
I didn't get to hear any noise, Like, he didn't vocalize,
he didn't scream at me. I felt like like maybe
he was curious what I was doing, or what I
was doing talking to this raccoon and giving it food,

(01:27:26):
I don't know, or just curious as to why I
was banging on a rock making all that noise. I
don't know. I mean they hit three. Maybe he wondered
why I was hitting these rocks. Maybe I actually drew
him in without knowing or even thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
It's really it is super interesting. Thank you for sharing
what you experience. I appreciate you coming up here. Is
it a thing? Where would you be all right if
I share this account on the podcast that I have

(01:28:08):
about Bigfoot?

Speaker 6 (01:28:11):
Yeah? I would that would be okay.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Okay cool? Have you ever been back to that place again?

Speaker 9 (01:28:17):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:28:18):
I want to go real bad and I have not.

Speaker 13 (01:28:23):
But I'll tell you a small little part of this
is I have two friends that live off grid that
work in the area, and I should I could maybe
email you if you didn't share some of the more
detailed information.

Speaker 9 (01:28:45):
I have.

Speaker 13 (01:28:46):
I'm kind of changing a few things here and there
of the location stuff and what was going on.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
But I have two friends that work in the area.
And you may even been able to read between the
lines here. I don't know, but.

Speaker 13 (01:29:01):
They live off grid and they only drive about five
miles to get to this area. And when I shared
it with them because I was kind of freaking out,
they were like, oh, well, you saw the big guy.

Speaker 6 (01:29:24):
Very casually.

Speaker 13 (01:29:27):
And I'm like, so, like you know, and they're like yeah,
and they both look at each other and we're like,
we should have probably said something before we just let
you go down there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Wow, that's wild. And only three years ago.

Speaker 13 (01:29:49):
Yeah, and they have been putting baskets of apples in
an area where.

Speaker 6 (01:29:58):
Not just this one. We have figured out that.

Speaker 13 (01:30:05):
The one I had my experience with I believe to
be kind of like the equivalent of like maybe a teenager.
The big guy is probably the father of this one,
and a female has been seen only a couple of times,

(01:30:27):
and the.

Speaker 6 (01:30:29):
Female has a more reddish color to her.

Speaker 13 (01:30:40):
The big guy is humongous, huge, eight to nine foot tall.

Speaker 6 (01:30:50):
I did see footprints.

Speaker 13 (01:30:53):
I was shown the apple area and the footprints going
back and forth to that area.

Speaker 6 (01:31:00):
Yeah, lots of.

Speaker 13 (01:31:02):
Them, and they I mean, I wear a seven. I
can put my foot heel toe, and it was the
foot was still bigger than mine. And when I put
my feet side by side, they were wider than mine.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Okay, wow.

Speaker 13 (01:31:22):
But the one that I saw, it was hard to
tell because I was looking up, but I'm guessing that
maybe it was six and a half to seven foot tall.
Its head was huge. The head was huge, and it
had like ever since I ever since I came back.

(01:31:48):
One of the things I've said to people that just
my family know, and one of my close friends who
is a believer and does follow you and a lot
of other people. I told him and I showed him

(01:32:13):
two pictures that were given sent to me by the
people that work there, and he freaked out because he
said that they were the best photos he had ever
seen in his life of a sasquatch. They never shared him.

(01:32:34):
They don't They don't have Wi Fi. They don't listen
to anything. They don't they're completely off gride people. He
was pretty excited about it when I told him, But
the way that he looked, I if someone told me

(01:33:00):
that they saw a bigfoot and it looked like a gorilla,
I would look at them like they were lying. If
if somebody told me it looked like a gorilla, I
would know that that's not what they did not see.
As watched, they were not talking because it looked like
a man.

Speaker 6 (01:33:21):
It looks so human. That's been the hardest part for
me to wrap my head around.

Speaker 9 (01:33:29):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
That is the thing that a lot of people struggle
with that I've talked to, just how it looks so human.
It's it's and I haven't had a visual yet myself,
but that'll be a hopefully that happens someday. We'll see.
But Karen, it has been a pleasure talking to you tonight.

(01:33:52):
Thank you for sharing what you've experienced over the years.

Speaker 13 (01:33:56):
Well, thank you for being there to feel comfortable to
share with.

Speaker 6 (01:34:03):
I listen.

Speaker 13 (01:34:05):
I put my EarPods in at work and I listened
to you all the time.

Speaker 9 (01:34:11):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:34:12):
Yeah, that's awesome, and I just got to like, you know,
after you listen to you for a while, you know,
you become more comfortable. And I know that people are
not going to make fun of me, and I don't
really worry about that because I know what happened to me.
I know what I experienced and what I saw, and

(01:34:33):
I now know that after years later, all the audio
that's came out, I know that what my dad and
I heard when I was a little kid.

Speaker 6 (01:34:42):
Was a sasquatch, absolutely so loud. It was so loud.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
If anything else happens to you in the future, we
would love to hear about it. But thank you so
much for coming up, Karen, Thank you, thank you for
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