Driver Spots Massive Sasquatch Standing Beside I-90 Near Snoqualmie River In Broad Daylight

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to BIGFLA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

(00:20):
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. We've
got the privilege of talking to Jimmy ton Gate today
from off Road x Files YouTube channel and podcasts. Jimmy,

(00:40):
it's great to talk to you, finally, I've wanted to
talk to you for a while.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
How's it going, man, It's awesome to be here.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Jeremiah, I can't believe how excited I am about this.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Our plaid shirts kind of matten in a weird way,
they do.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, Listeners will have to check out the YouTube channel
of version to see that for themselves. But Jimmy, you
have been popping up and a few things lately that
I like to watch, like Salish Sasquatch channel. You were
in one of those at least one. And but before

(01:19):
we get to stuff like that, you know, Jimmy, let's
start with you know when I talk to people that
are into the subject and it feels like you're you're
kind of a researcher slash content creator yourself. But what
brought you into the bigfoot field to begin with?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Was? What was it that drew in? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I was really involved in hiking for a while until
my had some health issues and had to stop hiking.
And I'm a photographer, and so I was trying to
figure out, like how can I still do landscape photography
and get out to those same area And I was
like maybe off roading or overlanding. And I'd getten a

(02:05):
really big promotion at work and was able to afford
my dream vehicle, which was a Toyota four Runner, and
I got it all outfitted out and started going off
roading and overlanding, which put me, yeah, there we go,
put me out into areas where bigfoot are. But I

(02:25):
wasn't thinking about bigfoot. I was thinking more about like
the fun of off roading, the adventure, doing photography, creating content. Primarily,
I was creating content for one of my Instagram pages
for my forerunner's name is Buckeroo, so it's a Buckeroo Adventures,

(02:46):
creating content for that. Hanging out with friends, camping and
I went to off roading with a group of friends
out near Mount Baker and specifically, well, we'd been out
there all day and we'd planned on camping, so we went.

(03:09):
There's a snow overflow park that's a big kind of
circle oval gravel kind of thing where when the parking
lot is full up ahead, people can park there. But
there was nobody around. It was in kind of early June,
and we got there in the afternoon. I had just

(03:32):
gotten that rooftop tent. It was a Smitty belt Overland
or XL so I believe it or not, that thing
folded out to a king size plus bed. It's really big,
you know, pretty epic. Had never really used it before,
and I'd just gotten a annex that zipped into the
bottom that covered the lyre that you climb up in.

(03:54):
It was like a big tent underneath my tent, and
so I was really excited to use everything on the
driver's side. There's an eight by eight awning that you
could pull out and it's eight feet by eight feet.
It's about eight feet in the air. So everything was

(04:16):
like really cool. We were having a good time. We
sat around, drank a few beers, had the you know
fire campfire eight supper, and we're all pretty much older
and go to bed on the earlier side. So we
went to bed like around ten o'clock, I think maybe
ten thirty, and there was nobody else camped, you know,

(04:38):
immediately by me. We were all spread out. So what
you see there on the screen is like exactly how
it was set up.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
This was on that trip.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
So I'm up in the tent and I'm asleep, and
at about twelve thirty I think it was twelve thirty,
I hear something that wakes me up. And I'm not
necessarily a light sleeper. I sleep pretty good, but it
was a lot enough that it woke me up, and

(05:10):
so I'm laying there listening to try to figure out
what it is that I'm hearing. And it's also pitch black.
The inside of those rooftop tents are coated with aligning
to act like a blackout from the sun, so even
like in the morning, you can't tell it's morning yet
it's really dark. So when it is, you're out in

(05:32):
the middle of nowhere and it's dark, it is really dark.
You can't even see your hand in front of your face.
So I'm listening very intently trying to figure out, Okay,
what is this sound? Is there danger? What's going on?
And I realize that it sounds like if you're parked
on gravel and you turn your tire, that kind of

(05:54):
crunch sound. That's what I was hearing. And I'm like, oh, well,
that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
And then I hear another one, and then it turns
into footsteps and it's walking around, so I believe it started.
There's kind of a pile of dirt behind my rig,
behind the driver's side, and that's where I started hearing
the sound, and I hear it walk around the front

(06:24):
of my Forerunner and it's walking very slowly, methodically. I
can hear this every step and crunch I'm hearing, you know, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch,
until it gets around to the passenger side of my
vehicle where the tent door is. And then at this

(06:47):
point I've already been. I'm like setting up in the tent, listening,
trying to figure out, you know, it's this, you know
what is happening. And so then I kind of transition
to where the tent opens, where the ladder comes up.
If you're looking on the YouTube channel, you can see
the ladder inside the tent through the tent door. So

(07:11):
I'm up at the top of that looking down because
some of the windows are open, and I'm trying to
see what is out there. Is it a person? What
is it? But it's so dark, I can't see anything.
But I hear something get to where that door is
and kind of take the fabric in their hands and

(07:32):
stretch it. And I was terrified at that point. I
was like, I didn't know if it was fixing to
come in. I knew whatever it was, it sounded very big,
and I think I gasped at that point, and then
it moves away. So eventually I was able to get

(07:53):
back to sleep. I was too afraid to go outside
to see what it was. I wasn't armed or anything.
I just had a knife and so but the next morning,
as soon as I heard somebody up, man, I'm down
out of that tent and I'm outside asking everybody, you know,
did you see anything last night?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Did you hear anything?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
And everybody says, no, you know, I didn't see anything,
didn't hear anything. So I walk around my vehicle and
I'm looking to see, you know, is there anything missing,
is there any footprints, anything, any evidence? Don't see anything.
But then I realize where the awniness. I had a
camp organizer hanging there, and I didn't see the camp

(08:35):
the organizer there, and it had like tent steaks in
the bottom, and I didn't really have anything else in
there yet.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I was just mainly hanging it to.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
See like it was one of the first times I
was using it as well, to see like what could I.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Use this for?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
But it had tent stakes to keep it from blowing
in the wind anything like that, but it wasn't there,
and so I start rationalizing and thinking, you know, it
was somebody was a camp robber. Somebody just came in
and they stole that. It wasn't anything weird, That's what
it was. It was just somebody coming in to steal stuff.

(09:13):
So I'm hanging out over at the campfire, We're having breakfast,
and it's kind of a little bit more elevated than
where my rig is, and I happened to look over
and I see the organizer isn't missing. It's laying on
top of the awning and it stretched completely out. And

(09:38):
I sent you a pictures you can see what it
looks like and how big it is. So this organizer
is stretched out completely on top of the awning and
it's is like eight feet up in the air. I
had to get I'm five six. Back then I think
it was closer to five seven, but now I'm like
five six.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
So I go there and I get the step stool
that I used to put the tent up and take
it down, and I pulled the aunting down and then
I'm standing there trying to throw it back up there
like if the wind blew, but I could only get
it to go like a foot maybe two feet in.
I couldn't get it to lay flat. So while I

(10:20):
didn't see anything, I was like really afraid by what happened.
But I really kind of think maybe it was a
bigfoot just messing with me.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Came in.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Maybe I had never seen a rooftop tent before, especially
one in that configuration with an annex or something like that.
It didn't bother anybody else, and I asked around a
couple different times. The people that were camped the closest
to me I called earlier this year, and I was like,

(10:53):
and so, like, this happened in June of twenty twenty three,
it's not that long ago. So I called them up
and like, you know, hey, do you remember we went
camping up by Mount Baker. They're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
I said, And You're like, did you see anything or
hear anything that night? And the person I was talking
to was like no, He's like, does something happen to you?

(11:14):
Like did somebody do something to you or take something
from you? And I said no, I think there was
a big foot in camp and it was just kind
of messing with me and some of the stuff in
camp there. And they were like, oh okay, So they
didn't want me to tell who they were. But so

(11:37):
that was kind of my first experience, real world experience
with what I think was with a bigfoot at that time.
So that started. They started bringing back like memories and
stuff from when I was a kid and growing up
in the late sixties seventies. There was quite the bigfoot

(12:00):
craze back then with the legend of Boggy Creek stuff
like that, and I'd remembered my parents would tell me, like,
you know, I could play everywhere. We lived on a
cotton farm way out in the country, didn't have a
lot of neighbors. I was a free range kid, and
I just ran all over and played in the woods.

(12:22):
But they would tell me, you know, be hung before dark,
or the wooly Booger will get you here the Boogerman
and then my grandparents would say the same thing. They
lived way out in the country. So but at that time,
I didn't associate wooly Boogers or Boogerman or Harryman with Bigfoot.
But now I understand that that's what it was. But

(12:43):
even like you know, that was kind of my introduction
to Bigfoot back then.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
So did you grow up in the southeast part of
the US then Central Texas? Central Texas? Okay, so yeah,
that makes sense, definitely. Okay, Wow, that's that is is
wild stuff. I mean, yeah, it can get very very
intense when you're in a tent like that and there's

(13:10):
something super close. Uh yeah, I mean you've heard the
stories I've lived through. Also, it was a solo camp out.
I was on in Iowa and something was walking around
my tent. It just feels like you're, yeah, blood pressure
is gonna just take you out. Man, It's wild. It

(13:31):
sounds like you were in a similar situation. But was
that was that a time? Was that what pushed you
over the edge into like, Okay, let's let's focus on
Bigfoot now, or was there something that that came later
you were just kind of just getting into it.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
So it I've always been intensely interested and curious about
the unknown. One of my favorite shows growing up was
Unsolved Mystery. Still love it, Like I've watched all the reruns,
reruns and everything. Love Unsolved Mysteries, love any kind of mystery, monsters,
anything like that. But it wasn't and so it kind

(14:12):
of rekindled my interest, and I started listening to some
podcasts that I found and watching YouTube videos and stuff
and kind of trying to figure out was that what
it was, see if anybody else had similar experiences. And
I know I was listening to your show recently, well,

(14:33):
I've listened to all of your episodes except for the
most recent ones, but I was listening to the guy
that is an Overlander also an off roader in the
jeep in Oregon that has had some pretty crazy experiences
in his rooftop tent also, so I know that it
does happen. It was the hook that got me kind

(14:56):
of re reinterested in the subject and looking into it,
but it wasn't the catalyst that finally pushed me over
the edge. So that happened in November of last year.
So it's been a year and ten days since this happened.

(15:18):
So it was November tenth of twenty twenty four. I'd
been camping. It was a week after my birthday, so
I went over to Crescent Bar on the east side
of the Cascade just to kind of solo camp, decompress,
and actually just stayed like at a campground. I was
also testing out some new overlanding gear and wanted to

(15:41):
make sure, you know, everything was working perfectly before I
go out somewhere very remote and had a really nice weekend.
Was coming back home on Sunday. Traffic was really heavy
on I ninety headed west coming back into Seattle, but

(16:01):
before you get into North Bend you cross the Snowkwami
River a couple different times, and recently I was back
out there and realized that maybe the exit or the
crossing that I thought where this happened wasn't quite the
one I thought it was the one after. So it's

(16:26):
the exit after the fire training Center on I ninety West,
where Homestead Road is. I'm coming down I ninety. It's
like one o'clock in the afternoon on a Sunday. There's
traffic four lanes wide. I'm in the right hand lane.
It's light rain, and I'm just kind of hanging out

(16:47):
because I was tired of all the aggressive drivers. And
I contend to be aggressive myself, and whenever somebody else
is aggressive, it makes me more aggressive. So I didn't
feel like any of that nonsense. I just wanted to
continue the relaxation, and so I was hanging out in
the right hand lane. But I'm always you can ask

(17:10):
my wife. I can't cross a creek or a river
without looking at it to see, like what's the water
at you know, what can you see? And so I
always I always look. And so I'm coming down High
ninety West headed into North Bend, and I get to
the bridge going over the snow Kwamie River and I

(17:31):
look to my right and like seventy five yards off
the Highway. There's a freaking sasquatch standing there, and my
mind just kind of locks up and I was like, no,
that can't be there. I believe they exist, but it

(17:52):
can't be standing right there right now. It's the middle
of the afternoon and there's cars and I'm thinking all
of this. There's cars whizzing by, and it's just standing there.
It's looking so it would be facing northeast. Its back
was to me. I could see it from head all

(18:14):
the way down to the to its feet where they
were on the ground. It was standing on river rocks,
so the big rocks in the river. It was kind
of a cinnamon color, so reddish brown, dark reddish brown.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
It had.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Very long hair hanging off of its arms. Its arms
went down to right around its knees. But what really
caught me off guard, Jeremiah, was the size. And it's
unless you've seen one and you've seen the size it.
Even saying how big it is, it really doesn't. It

(18:50):
really doesn't come across. This thing was massive. It was
like four and a half feet wide at the shoulders
and it's just standing there kind of looking across the river,
and so I'm wondering, like what's it looking at? Why
is it standing there? And what is it looking at?
But I only had, like, you know, maybe three seconds

(19:14):
to take all of this, and as I'm driving by,
and so as I drive by and I'm out of sight,
my mind is still just reeling like and I start
trying to explain it away. I start trying to rationalize
that that couldn't have been that couldn't have been.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
A big foot.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
It had to be a tree or dead wood or
something else that just happens to have like hair hanging
off of it six inches longer. So you know, this
thing was massive. So I debated on whether I should
turn around and go back, but there really isn't a
place to pull off there, and it's really a pain

(19:53):
in the butt to get back to. You have to
go a couple of miles down, then take an exit
and go back a couple of miles and then circle around.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
And so.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I just ultimately decided not to do it that day,
but I knew right away I wanted to come back
and take a look at it. So two weeks later,
I drove back out there and went to Homestead Road
exit where the fire training center is, and I came
back around. I drove down the road kind of on
the other side of the river, looking to see is

(20:26):
there a place that you know, you could see through
to see, you know, exactly where it was standing, or
there any trails anything. It's pretty heavily brushed right there.
It'd be pretty difficult to get down to the river
from there from what I saw. So then I came
back up and went really slowly back on. It's a

(20:46):
very short exit to get back on I five or ninety.
And I'm looking and I don't see any dead trees.
I don't see any anything that could explain what I saw.
So I was able to roll out the possible and
what I'm left with is kind of the impossible. And

(21:08):
that said, you know, there had to be a bigfoot
standing there. So I went on another podcast earlier this year,
and two weeks later I get an email from a
guy who said, hey, Jimmy, I was hunting on the
east side and coming back over and in kind of

(21:32):
that same area, I saw bigfoot standing off the highway too,
And he sends me a Google map and Jeremiah, it's
the same place. And then I did an episode with
a Flash of Beauty where they interviewed me about all
of this, and somebody contacted me and they're like, Jimmy,
I saw one in the same place. So there's been

(21:55):
myself and two others have seen a bigfoot standing in
that same river bed. So I really think that they
use that as a point of ingress and egress in
and out of the North Bend area coming down the
snow Kwamie River from out of the mountains. But like
it's private land on the west side of where the

(22:20):
river is, and then it's like really difficult to get
to from there. So but like why why why be
standing there in the middle of the day just kind
of looking around kind of it doesn't make sense, but
I know what I saw, and that was the catalyst
that gave me this intense burning desire to like I

(22:41):
need to figure.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
This out now.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Oh man, that is that is incredible. I've I don't
know if I've even heard that on my own show
where there's two other people that have had a similar
sighting in the same exact area where the witness had
to say, that's awesome. Yeah, it's like, yeah, there's no question.

(23:04):
Three seconds super quick during that time, were you able
to see did you notice anything about the shape of
the head or what the face looked like, anything like that.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Well, I didn't see the face because it was facing
away from it. It was facing to the northeast and I'm
headed west, so but what I could see is the
top of the head, the back of the head, the
back the shoulders. It had long hair, and one of
the things that really kind of struck me, Like I
spent an intense amount of time thinking about this and

(23:39):
trying to recall every detail because it happened so quickly.
But it's really quite amazing, Jeremiah, which your mind can
capture in a split second. It can capture an incredible
amount of detail that you can then refer back to
and recall. So the head wasn't conical, it was more round.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
It didn't have a.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Neck, So I think I might be related because I
don't have much of a neck either. And some of
the folks in the Flash of Beauty video didn't quite
get that joke. They said it must be a tongue gate,
and they're like, what's a tongue gate?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Like, it's me.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I don't have a neck either, But so I noticed it,
like it didn't have a neck, it was just a
head on the shoulders and it came down. The trapezoids
were just like immense coming down into these huge shoulders
and then the arms hanging straight down. The hair on
its back was long, but it wasn't matted. And that's

(24:41):
something that really stood out to me, is it actually
looked kind of well kept. And I would have thought
it would have been all matted and have you know,
stuff caught in it and would look kind of like
maybe dreadlocks or something. But it didn't look like that.
And I don't know if it's maybe they because they
spent time I'm in the river that maybe it helped

(25:03):
wash that out, or if maybe the groom, who knows,
But that was one of the things that really stood out.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
The legs were like really big. It was standing flat footed,
so really other than like the head, the shoulders, how
big the shoulders were, the arms, the size of the legs,
I don't really have any other details.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Okay, okay. The whole thing covered with hair, you would say,
oh yeah, okay, yeah, it was it was thick hair.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
It wasn't thin. You really couldn't see the color of
the skin at that distance. You just saw the color
of the hair, which was a kind of a sentiment,
so a dark red.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Brown, right.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
The size of the head. When you think of, let's say,
objects in your house, is there anything that comes close
to the size of it?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Was no, No, not even my own melon.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
It was thinking about it. Remember, I'm seeing it from
like seventy five to maybe one hundred yards away, and
at that distance it looked like it was two or
three feet wide, so it's probably quite a bit wider

(26:28):
than that. And part, you know, right up close.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Oh yeah, because that's uh, I mean that length is
about what like three tennis courts.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's pretty Everything was.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Really big, and it's it's shocking how big it is.
I was really kind of taken back. I went down
to Margie's Outdoor store in Bench in Washington to interview
James Shubski and in the store they have a big
foot there with kind of like a measuring tape that

(27:01):
goes up to like twelve feet and when you get
to I mean this thing, from the distance I saw it,
I estimated it was probably eight and a half feet.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
That is so huge.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Man, it's like shocking when you're standing close up, how
big something eight and a half feet is and to
think that, you know, we get reports of bigfoot that
go up to like twelve feet out there.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
That's must Yeah, at twelve feet or I mean depending
on who you talk to and where they are. I mean, yeah,
it could get higher, but yeah, twelve for sure. Those
man in Oakridge, the people I talked to there, they've
seen some big boys.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Out in the woods.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
So when you're looking at you're looking at it for
a few seconds, are you able to see any muscle definition?
Could Was it very muscular or lean or could you
tell anything like that?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
So yeah, it was kind of in between.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
It wasn't like Louf Frigno muscular, but it looked like
it could toss a big tree, like very very easily
with the size and the girth, you know, like the legs,
the arms. Everything was just huge about this guy. But

(28:23):
it wasn't like Lou for Igno, but you could tell,
you know, it could definitely has a lot of power.
It wasn't lean like a basketball player. It was more
like on the well built, on the well built side
of things, And that's wild.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I just I can't imagine that.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
You must have just gotten nuts when you were getting
those messages about like, yeah, I saw one in the
same the same area.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I can see the email from the hunter, so you
can see what.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, the picture, and then the other comment is in
the flash of beauty, you know comments, so it's available publicly.
I called my wife because you like, we talk about everything.
We don't have any secrets, and so I got a
little ways down the road and once I kind of
my mind settled a little bit, I called her and

(29:17):
I'm like, honey, you're not gonna believe what I saw.
And she's like what, And I said, I think I
just saw a bigfoot standing off I and hunting, and
she's like, no, you didn't see a bigfoot and I'm like, no,
I really think I did.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
So I went.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
From like being an intense believer to a very intense
knower in the space of like three seconds.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Absolutely, that's true. That's a that's a big difference. And
once you once you get over that.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
That line, it really does change things.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
So then after that it's just you're you're one hundred
and ten percent into it. And I mean I've seen
you're you're doing all sorts of cool stuff. You're doing
stuff where it's like, oh man, that.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Is really cool.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I would love to talk to you about you were
able to go on kind of an adventure trip with
a mutual friend. His name is Randy from the Bend area. Yes, right, yeah,
so yeah, definitely happy to talk about that.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
So it kind of can I start with something that happened.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Earlier, because it's kind of all leaves the same thing.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Absolutely, So I had this intense desire to figure out, Okay,
what is this, but then also listening to thousands of
interviews on podcasts, also understood that it's a cathartic process
and people need help, and so I decided, you know,
one of the ways that I could help and contribute
besides creating content, would be also to create a safe

(31:01):
space for people to talk about their experiences that happen
when they're overlanding, off road, disperse camping, things of that nature.
And so I decided to form off road x Files.
I was also a huge fan of the X Files,
watched all the reruns and everything, so I wanted to
kind of tie the two together and generate curiosity from people.

(31:22):
So that's how off Road x Files was formed. So
then I had to like figure out, Okay, how do
I get out and research. So I start going to
conferences and talking to people and making connections online, and
I got into a couple of different groups, and then
I started posting like little ads that I would use

(31:46):
chat GPT to create with a picture of me that
then it would take and turn into a cartoon with
my drone and my camera and my gear. I'm also
a professional fraud investigator, so I've been doing investigation on
a professional level for a decade with Amazon, and then
prior to that, I also did sales compliance investigations. So

(32:07):
I have about a good solid fifteen years of being
a professional investigator. And I have like skills that I
can offer through that how to build modus operandi and
patterns and how to figure out what criminals are doing.
All of that translates into research and tracking something. And

(32:28):
so I wanted to like make myself available and see
if anybody would bite. So I create a couple of
these ads, and I made them funny, like you know,
I bring my own snacks and I'll tell you jokes
around the campfire. And somebody bent and ask somebody else
that knew me, like, you know, what's Jimmy like? And
he said, it's a pretty solid guy. It's very you know,

(32:50):
intently interested in the subject. And so I got invited
to the Blue Mountains and that's kind of where it
started with my first big research. I'd been out researching
in the North Cascades, you know, kind of by myself
and with a guy I was researching with at the time.

(33:10):
But I go down to the Blue Mountains and I
met a lot of people there, and we went down
to the Paul Freeman site, and so I got to
know some folks, and through getting to know those folks,
I got invited to other things. And so that's how
I ended up at Mount Adams. Is I got to
know the Browns pretty well, and we've become really good friends.

(33:33):
We hang out a lot, we researched together, and so
I started going on these trips with the Browns, and
the Mount Adams thing was one of their annual trips,
and I happened to I was there for Thursday to Sunday.

(33:54):
Shane Corson had been there earlier in the week and
I had just missed him. But he got one of
the best screams that he's gotten to date from anywhere.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
So I know you've heard that. Yeah, Yeah, they showed
me that campground.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
They showed me the audio pretty quick, and I was like, whoa, guys,
that's something wild.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
So being out in the Blue Mountains with you, this
big research group, I made some good friends and that
helped me kind of get my direction set to where
it is now with researching with Sarah and Jonathan and
some other folks, and we've become a pretty tight group.

(34:36):
But we get out there and on Friday night, I'm
sleeping up in my rooftop tent. We've been watching movies
and I go to bed kind of on the earlier side,
but it's like, I think it was eleven, right around
eleven thirty, I'm laying there and I'm listening to a

(34:59):
podcast and I think it was yours in the tent
and I'm not kissing, but but I'm pretty sure it
was your podcast, thank you, because I had some downloaded
that I wanted to listen to. So I'm laying there
and I'm listening to your podcast and I hear ah,

(35:21):
except it's a lot louder and a lot longer, and
also sounded feminine, and so I like, I look at
my phone and I'm like, it's eleven thirty two. And
I'm laying there and I'm like, somebody has to be
call blasting. That's just too perfect. But the sound came
from back in the forest behind where I was, and

(35:43):
there's nobody camp back there. Everybody was kind of in
a circle around. So the next morning I get up
and I go around and I start asking everybody noticed
anybody call blasting last night. Nope, we don't do call
blasting in this group. So I started asking around and
two other people heard it as well, and so we

(36:06):
start pulling recorders trying to figure out did anybody capture it.
One person captured part of it that had a recorder
back in that area, but they didn't get the whole thing,
and then they hadn't cleaned up their files in years
on the recorder, so we didn't know which file it

(36:26):
was to get back to it. So like the next
day we're sitting there, me and Steve and some other
people are sitting there analyzing audio, all the audio that
we'd pulled from the night before, and Steve says, hey,
one of my buddies, Randy, his crew's coming through here

(36:48):
and there Overlanders doing a sasquatch expedition. I was like,
I got to meet them. So they come into camp,
and since they had a dog, they were down in
banishment camp because we don't allow dogs in the main camp.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
And so I walked down there later on.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
With Steve and he introduces me to Randy, and Randy's like,
I'm so excited to meet you. I'm like, how do
you know who I am? It's like I've been following
you on Facebook. Like, oh, that's awesome. So I got
to meet Randy and we sat there and talked hung
out for a good while. Then they came back up
to camp and we sat there and analyzed audio and stuff,

(37:28):
and then I ended up doing a whole episode with
him called Sasquatch Overlanding Expedition on my podcast, where I
interviewed him about that whole trip, how he prepared for it,
anything special they had to do, you know, what methodologies
did they use to go out and look for Bigfoot.
So it was like a really great episode for me

(37:50):
because I got to tie it back into off roading
and overlanding, which I try to do as often as
I can so that I stayed consistent.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Randy is one of the nicest dudes you'll ever meet,
and I was able to talk to him for a
few hours in person at Oakridge last year, which is
really cool because I've I've interviewed him a few times,
but it's it's definitely way better when you're able to
talk to someone in person.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
You know what I mean. I'm going to see him
this weekend. Oh cool, you are. He's going to be
a fast Squatch summit. Oh right, yeah, that's yeah. My
friend Sleigh is going to be at that too.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
So listeners, you'll want to check out that episode of
off Road X Files to get the whole story. Were
there any highlights from that adventure that you you got
into with Randy though, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
They had some interesting vocalizations, They had some interesting experiences
while they were camping. You know, there were very remote
and I believe they followed part of They did go
through part of the WA BDR Section one. So in Oregon,

(39:11):
Washington and other states we have back road Discovery routes.
So I've literally driven from Carson, Washington all the way
to Packwood on dirt roads and twenty five miles in
about eight hours because we had to make some stops.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
But it's very remote and very rugged.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
There's areas where you're like you definitely have to have
four wheel drive and lockers to get through it. So
it can be pretty intense. And they did part of
section one, I believe, but it's like, you know, there's
nothing out there.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
You may not even see people.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
During the summer, you will, but that time of year
things are starting to wrap up.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Very very cool stuff. So is when I'm thinking of overlanding.
How crazy do these roads get out there? When when
you're doing a track like that, that eight hour track,
are you having to like go over boulders and stuff
or it's just really rutted out trails or.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
It depends on when you go, like if you're talking
early July, the snow is just melting. It kind of
goes in between Mount Adams and Mount Saint Helen's a
Section one does all the way up to Packwood and
then you can go from Packwood to Ellensburg and then
from Ellensburg to Levenworth and then Levenworth to Canada. So

(40:41):
it goes start roads all the way to Canada. Pretty crazy.
It does get very rugged. You definitely want to make
sure that you're prepared. Can it be done in a
stock vehicles like a stock for runner? Yeah, their bypasses
for some of the harder stuff, unless it's rained and

(41:03):
getting really rutted out and then like you know, sometimes
you get through it, you have one person pushed through,
and then you start wenching people across.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Oh my goodness, I can I can't even imagine that. So, guys,
if this is like serious stuff, this is not like
you're taking your rental from the airport and you're going
out in this way. You're not doing that. If you
do it, you're not coming back alive. Seriously, Probably you're
not running a rubicon and going out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're definitely not.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Man you are.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
You are pretty much almost I would say, like you've
you've probably gone through some crazy adventures to get to
the point where you are now where you can handle
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm guessing I've almost died. Yeah, a couple of different
times I was.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
So.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
One of the things I do is I'm a trail
guide and an ambassador for on X off Road. So
I go out and map trails and right guides for
them that are then published for.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
People to go out and do.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
So I go out to like some crazy areas that
haven't been driven in years. Old logging cuts and drive
down them to see like where they go. And I
was following one of my buddies who was in a
super cross track that's lifted, and we overlain together a
lot and we're going we're over in the Olympics trying

(42:31):
to get to Spider Lake, but we're not going Spider
Lake by the normal for service roads. We're trying to
go over a pass to get to it.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
And so we're like.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Driving up the side of this mount where we go
through like this crazy brush area where I've got this Forerunner.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I just hear.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
As the limbs are coming down pinstriping it. Yeah, yep,
it's really hard to hear, you know, like that paint
being scratched right off, but it's what it's for. But
we finally get through all that. We get up on
the side of this mountain and there's been a landslide
and Jeremiah, it's a vertical drop outside the driver's door.
I look over and like, you don't see any ground there,

(43:11):
it's just air. And so we get around the side
of this mountain where there's been this landslide and I
see there's this big mound of dirt and my buddy
and his super is driving up over this mount of
dirt and I'm looking at his wheelbase and I'm like,
he's barely fitting over that. I'm not sure I can fit.

(43:31):
And he's like, oh, you'll be fine. He's like, i'll
spot you. So I get up to it and I
start going up this mound of dirt and I start
to slide a little bit, so I just stop, kind
of take a breath. I put it in four low,
put it in a gravel mode, and then step on

(43:53):
the gas And as I start going up, my rear
and start sliding to the left, and I'm like, I'm
fixing the go off. So I just stomped on it
and I sent it and went flying over the mound
of dirt, got across, I almost hit his super rue.
We get up to the top where the pass is
and there's there's so much snow. It's like two or

(44:14):
three feet of snow at that point. We can't get
past it. So then at that point I know I
have to go back across that. That's the only way
back down.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
And I was I was shaking standing there and I'm
like on the radio, I'm like, I'm not sure I
can do this, And he's like, oh, you'll be fine,
I'll spot you. I'm like, okay, I made it across
it once, I'll just I'll do it again. And so
I made it back across. But like I called my
wife later that day and I'm like, you know, I

(44:43):
almost went off the side of the mountain. And so
now she tells me when I walk out the door,
she's like, don't do anything stupid.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, I still do, but that is horrifying goodness. I
can't I can't imagine going through that, Jimmy. I mean,
I was a out. I barely got over what's what's
the pass from let's see, like come on Rainbow or again,

(45:14):
and then you go up north and then you sandym
passed that one. I had to go over that to
Subtle Lake and like that's nothing, probably compared to what
you're talking about. But even so, do you think all
of a sudden you're on these huge mountains. I'm like, oh,
my goodness, this is a lot crazier than Iowa.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
But you should look at some of the pictures on
my Facebook page or the instagram of going snow wheeling.
We'll go out and drive on top of two or
three feet of snow and air our tires down man
and go camping. But I was up like it was
with another buddy and a Forerunner, and we're, you know,

(45:49):
maybe forty miles from Canada, out snow wheeling up this mountain,
going out to Twin Lakes area, and we're about sixty
five hundred up and the snow is getting really nasty
because they'd been raining a lot. And we start breaking
through the snow and hitting ice. And so it's another

(46:09):
situation where the passenger side is a vertical drop off
and I'm going around a bend on a mountain and
so I'm starting to hug the shoulder more and more
and it's kind of this way, and ended up sliding
into the little ditch there and getting stuck. So I've
only really gotten stuck a couple times in it, but
I was like really stuck this time. But I just

(46:32):
had a wench installed on the front end of my Forerunner.
So I called my buddy on the radio and he
gets turned around and he comes back and we hooked
my wench up to the front end of his Forerunner.
I sat there and winched myself out of that ditch,
and then we turned around and.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Went back down. Oh my goodness, you are wild.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I can't imagine that, dude, they get blood flowing Jeremiah.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Absolutely, But like that's how you get to the big
foot spots, like exactly.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, you get out to places where nobody else is
out there and that's where they are.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Oh my goodness. So the on X thing, that's awesome.
That's really cool, man. I have so I love on X.
Not a sponsor, but I also love on X and
such a great, great app.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Everyone should use it.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
I've tried for years to get a connection within on
X because for this reason, because I'm like, there's got
to be someone in this app business sphere universe that
has amazing bigfoot stories. Because they have a bigfoot icon
in on X that you can choose when you're putting

(47:49):
a marker in.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
It's like someone's got to have a story. I just
haven't gotten through yet.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Being an ambassador, I also get to work with the
program managers for.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
The application, and.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
It was earlier this year. I sent them a really
long email and I'm like, I have a whole list
of ideas, like we should be at bigfoot conferences because
people that are bigfooters go out into these remote areas
and they need to know how to get there safely
and get back safely. And then I also think that
we should work with Matt from the Bigfoot Mapping Project

(48:29):
and we should add a bigfoot siding layer into on X,
so not only can you navigate out there, but you
can find where the bigfoot siding was reported and then
navigate to it safely. Because and this isn't a commercial
for on X, but they've also added like turn by
turn navigation, so you can be off road on a
dirt road and as long as you have selected your endpoint,

(48:53):
it will give you turn by turn directions. Even on muddy, dirty,
rutted roads. It will say like turn in twenty feet. Wow,
And it may be a road you're even having trouble
seeing and then you're like, oh, there it is. Yeah,
so it's a great tool.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, that's solid. It is.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
It is really man, great ideas. Yeah, really man. They
need to they need to get on one of the
Bigfoot podcasts. And I don't care who it is, maybe me,
wink wink, but they need to get on one of

(49:34):
those podcasts because, as you said, like the Bigfoot community
loves that app and like it's just it would be
so cool to talk to someone who really knows that app.
But also you'd be a great person to talk to
them for sure, because you like know the whole overlanding thing.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
But I've been thinking about doing a video on how
to use all the different features that are built into
to be able to go out and bigfoot find locations,
because once you have the GPS coordinates from a report,
you can get there.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Put those GPS.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Coordinates right into on X and then hit and navigate
and it'll take you from your house to where that
siding was. And there's also really important features in there
for wildfires to show you where current wildfires are, avalanche.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Slopes, snow levels.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
They've now added the big three cellular service select AT
and T Verizon, T Mobile. You can go into layers
and select T Mobile and it'll show you where there's
voice or text. Oh wow, get into a situation where
you need to make a phone call urgently, you can
pull that up in the layer and see, okay, I

(50:51):
need to go right here to get a voice service
and make a phone call.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Holy macrol, I didn't know that that is? Is that
in the Was it the off road one?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah? On ex off road.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
I believe they've also probably added them to Hunt and
the high calso, but definitely an off road.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
The other cool thing and I know listeners who are like, oh,
this is a great ad for.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
On X, Well, it's awesome, guys.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
So the other cool thing is, let's say hypothetically you
are going out with some people and and it's an
area where you don't know where you are. Yeah, but
it would be great if you knew how to get
back if something happens like to the you like, you
should probably know how to get back, right. So there's

(51:41):
actually a place where you can track. You can track
your route, which is really helpful. I use it all
the time.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
So I leave with bread crumbs. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah,
it's cool.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
If you look at my on X map, there's bread
combs everywhere in Washington, like everywhere I go that it's
a dirt road I have track on and then if
it isn't already mapped, I'm mapping it also taking pictures
and then writing guides for it. So they are having

(52:15):
a sell right now for Black Friday, so it's a
good time to subscribe. It is interested if anybody's interested.
Also being an ambassador, I have a discount code. You
can just send me an email or reach out and
I'll get you the code. Also, they've recently added grouping,

(52:36):
so if you're going out with a group of friends
and y'all have on X and you get in that
group together and I haven't played with this yet, but
it will show you.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Where everybody is.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Oh, no way, yeah, Oh that's pretty cool. Yeah, I
need to look into that. Do you do they just
like release updates on Do they have like a YouTube
channel or how do they release updates?

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Like?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
How do you know all this Facebook, YouTube, Instagram? You're
like talk actively going out there.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
That's pretty constant.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
And then like we find out about stuff way ahead
of time and sometimes test it before it comes out live.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
That's fantastic. But yeah, it's a it's a great product,
it really is. And if on X is listening, thank
you guys.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Another thing I wanted to talk to you about is
you were at the conference in Packwood, right?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yes? How was that? So?

Speaker 3 (53:35):
There's the conference in Packwood, the Legends of the Mountains
town Hall. Oh I think that Melp puts on if
you're talking about Randall?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I sorry, yes, okay, I was meaning to say Randall,
And so tell me about the conference at Randall, the
camp out conference thing.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Yes, So the conference at Randall is Sasquatch Beyond the
foot Print and I'm actually the host in MC for that.
I was incredibly honored to be asked to do that,
especially with how.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
New I am to the community.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
But it was so much fun, and I think that
this conference has so much potential with like especially the
camping part. And we actually have a planning meeting coming
up in a couple of weeks that I'm going to
with the East Lewis County Chamber of Commerce, so we're

(54:33):
already actively planning next year. But it was great for
being a first year conference. We had a pretty decent turnout.
There's tons of improvements that need to be made, and
we're going to make those to make sure that, you know,
like it's successful going forward before. We're planning on doing
this for perpetuity and I've been invited to be the

(54:54):
host for as long as I want to be, so
I'm pretty excited about that. But we we had a
great lineup of speakers. We're already talking to folks for
twenty twenty six. It's going to be in September again.
But like one of the great things about the conference
is the ability to camp out there and hang out

(55:17):
with people. So there's campfires, you know, there's parties, get
to hang out with the speakers and get to know people.
But like, even if you're coming in from the East
Coast or somewhere else and flying in, you can rent
camping gear from RII and go pick it up in
your rental car and go camp for the weekend and

(55:39):
then take it back and drop it off to ARII
on your way back out of town. I know, you
don't have to get a motel. You can rent camping
garret ARII. Okay, that's I'm also actually huge gonna look
at you know, is there a way we can work
something out with ARII where people can order the gear
ahead of time, pay for it, and an ARII deliver

(56:01):
it to the campground.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Like that would be huge and you're making it.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Yeah, Like at and it's a huge property. So it's
a working a working farm, and where the campground is
I think is a couple hundred acres and so it's
really spread out. They had nice clean porta potties everywhere,
beautiful campground right on the River, the College River. They

(56:31):
had a five k race there, but I think it
was around eleven o'clock in the morning. I had introduced
Barb Choot and she was on stage talking and it
was transitioning that part of the day where it's starting
to get a little bit warmer. So I went back
over to my rig to change shirts, and I'm standing

(56:53):
there and I'm with my friend Janie, and.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I hear this. Ah.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
It was like really loud, and it was back over
kind of where Mark Marcell was camped. But this one
was not Mark. If you've seen that video.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I watched that story where Mark marks.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, so but this wasn't him.
He was over at his table when this occurred. But
during the day I heard this really loud scream and
then you know, there were definitely codies in the area
at night that we got on recorder and stuff, but
we did hear, you know, some other kinds of vocalizations
that we can explain. It's definitely it's in a super

(57:35):
squatchy area. It's in the triangle. So there's a triangle
from Mount Saint Helens, Mount Rainier, Mount Adams and Randall's
right in that triangle. So there have been reports. I
think there have been forty reports right around Randall since

(57:56):
the late eighteen hundreds, and those are credible reports. So
it's an active area. But the conference itself, it has
a huge amount of potential. I'm really excited about it,
and I'm really excited to get to planning twenty twenty

(58:16):
six here in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, that I heard nothing but good things about that.
Oh good.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
That podcast is art about that conference because I was
my buddy Jonathan Easley was I believe he was there. Yes,
he was one of the speakers. Yes, and he told
me all about it and it sounded like a really
really good time. So did you also go then to
the Packwood Town Hall?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Oh man, that must have been incredible the stuff you
heard there.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Yeah, that was that was pretty neat. That's where I
sat down with with Breton Joe and he interviewed the
Flashy Beauty that I did. There was a great little
venue at the I believe it's.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
The Long Maar Brewery.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Tasty Tasty said, had a couple of beers, nice little venue,
good time of year, a lot of great presentations.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
It was good.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
It's more of a on the smaller side, which is
nice rather than you know, like a big conference.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
That area is on the list eventually to get up to.
I mean, I've talked to so many people from Packwood.
But also have you ever been to I think it's Ashland, Washington,
over by Rnier, Yes, yeah, Okay, have you had any
experiences over there, because I've had some interesting interviews from

(59:50):
that area. Some researchers have really gotten in some wild
stuff over there.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
No, I haven't. I haven't done a lot around renew
Like you said, I'm I'm pretty wide ranging when it
comes to research. I spent a lot of time down
in south central Washington. Schimania County was just down. I've

(01:00:18):
become really good friends with one of your former guests, Henry,
and you know we talked about Henry and I hang
out a lot. Yeah, we were together a couple of
weeks ago down north of Golden down the Simcoe Mountains.
I went down to interview him and shoot film for

(01:00:39):
a little documentary that I'm making called Bigfoot in the
Ponderosis about his sidings. So we went out to where
he had his first two sidings, and he's had some
other experiences there and it was a great location. It's
a cattle ranch in the mountains about five thousand feet
up and we're we stayed is where the cowboys have

(01:01:02):
been camping out together the cattle at for the winter.
So they had a you know, campus tent there. We
didn't stay in that. I stayed in my rooftop tent.
But it was a nice area to camp in. And
then you know, we're out there, you know, bigfooting, driving
around talking about Bigfoot. But I had like this really

(01:01:24):
crazy I don't know if you want to talk about this,
but I had like this really crazy experience that night.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Absolutely, So.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
I had my fur runner all set up, and I
decided i'd brought my ground tent. But I decided because
it was going to be a lot colder, I was
going to sleep in my rooftop tent and it was
supposed to be like thirty two degrees, so I had
I was sleeping on top of two blankets, and I
didn't bring my diesel heater with me because it wasn't
ready yet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
I hadn't had it prepped.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
But I get up there and so I have a big,
thick fleece, dark green blanket over me, and then a
dark gray electric blanket and it's like covering my head.
So I'm covered head to toe with blankets and I'm
sleeping on my right side and sleeping really well. And
then around four o'clock in the morning, this bright light

(01:02:18):
wakes me up and it's shining Jeremiah. It is shining
through the blankets, that's how bright it is, and so
I kind of pull the blankets down and I'm looking.
And so remember I'm on my right side. The bottom
of the tent is probably eight feet up. Top of
the tent like fourteen feet up, and there's this light

(01:02:41):
shining through the tent, going through the fabric of the tent.
Through that it also has that black app material in it,
and it's orbiting above my tent. It goes so I'm
laying on my right side as it's going up about
it took about three maybe four seconds to go completely
over my tent. As it's going over, I'm rolling over

(01:03:04):
and when it gets to the left side of my tent,
the light goes out and I was like, holy smokes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
What was that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I'm like, was that Virgil coming out of Because his
trailer was right next to me. I'm like, was he
coming out and was that a flashlight? So the next
morning we get up and I'm like, hey, Virgil, did
you get up about four o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
In the morning go to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
He's like, no, I have a bathroom inside, so I
don't need to come outside, and it's too cold.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
So I'm like, huh, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
So we kind of start talking about what happened, and
then we're out driving around the property doing our thing,
and as we're talking, we both realized like, hey, we
had recorders out and wonder if we got anything. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
So we get back to camp.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
I get my laptop and I had a recorder, a
task Cam DR seven X on my driver's side front tire,
which is to the left of where the tent is.
So I remember it was coming from north to south
over me, so it would have been right to left,
right over where that recorder was. So I get the

(01:04:13):
recorder and I'm sitting there and I start the recorder
at ten thirty PM. At ten thirty eight. In like
five seconds, you hear four tones kind of a and
there's quite for a few seconds, and then you hear static,

(01:04:34):
and then it does it again, and it goes on
for a while. And then you hear a sound and
Virgil and you know, we're standing there playing this in
real time on the recorder.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Or on my laptop using Adobe Audition, and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
I have a spectrum analyzer up so I can see
the signals and we're looking at it. And then you
hear something that sounds like a mechanical thunk and then
like pressurize and he's like, dude, was that a door
for a UFO coming down?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
I'm like, I don't know if I want to stay here,
maybe we should leave. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
And so we had like a very serious conversation. Are
we going to spend another night because this happened on
Friday night? Or we stay on Saturday night? But I'm
so curious. I'm like, I've got to find out what's
going on. So I eventually figure out that sound with
the thunk and the pressurization is Virgil's heater coming on

(01:05:36):
as trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
So I was able to debunk that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
And this is like a really critical part of any
kind of investigation that you're doing, not just to assume
things and accept things, but you have to think about
it rationally and figure out what does it really mean,
and if you can explain it it needs to be
explained that way. Once you explain everything, if you're left

(01:05:58):
with anything else, then it's like the impossible, the things
that you haven't considered or that aren't known, or the fantastic,
like you maybe it was a UFO. So this goes
on randomly. Sometimes it overlaps with the sound of the

(01:06:19):
heater and stuff coming on, and sometimes it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
So I get back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Home, I set the recorder on my mantle and I
let it run for eight hours. Play it back that night,
look through all the audio. There's no defects, there's no static,
there's nothing. So at that point I know it's not
the recorder. That evening after work, I go out and
I put my recorder back on my front tire in

(01:06:47):
my parking space, and I let it set there for
two or three hours running. Bring it back in nothing.
You can hear it traffic, you can hear all the
normal stuff. There's no status, there's no tones, there's nothing.
So reached out to me and he's like, I want
to let you know. I took my trailer and I

(01:07:11):
set up everything exactly the same is when we're in
the simcos and I put a recorder next to it.
And it's just beautiful audio, no static, nothing. So we've
been able to roll out my rig, we've been able
to roll out his trailer, his truck, we've been able
to roll out that. It's the recorder because it functions
just fine here. So it has to be something about

(01:07:34):
that location. So going back Thanksgiving weekend and we're going
to camp there and set everything up again and see, like,
you know, does anything happen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
But I also followed a move on report. Oh okay,
that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
It's a case one four five zero zero five or
something like, I can get it. I posted it on
my YouTube channel on the video that I did about this.
I did a twenty two minute video with like that morning.
As soon as I got up, I recorded what happened
so I would remember.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
It and I would have it on video and audio.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
And then as I'm kind of investigating in the whole
thing's unfolding, I'm like interviewing myself and recording everything and
analyzing the audio where people can see it. So it's
pretty interesting. I love that move on. It's reached out
and they want to talk to me and investigate it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Also, Oh really, oh that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
So yeah, that'll be very interesting to see what happens
in your follow up. And I'm sure you may even
do something about the follow up expedition on your channel too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yeah. Perhaps, Yeah, that's cool. I'm hoping there will be
a part two. Well, there'll be a part two. It'll
be a part two.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Nothing happened or something happened, and this is what happened,
and this is what we're able to explain, and this
is what we're left with. But everything is all about
the evidence.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Have you ever done anything out by the Lake Cushman area?

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
So I have off roaded out there. I haven't done
any investigations, but I've spent a lot of time off
roading around Hamahama and that whole area. I've driven on
dirt roads all the way from kind of the Belfare
Washington area Skycomish all the way to Quanault Lake Quanault

(01:09:25):
on dirt roads.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Oh wow, that's that's pretty awesome. Yeah, that is it.
It's one of those areas where there's a lot that
happens around Cushman.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Over the years, I've had some interesting stuff happen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Up in the North Cascades, like well, you know, I
had the whole experience around Mount Baker and then not
too far from there east of Darrington. I was researching
in that area for the first half of this year
and did some camping in solo camping out there, and
I was camped with one of my overlanding.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Buddies in the research area. And it's actually.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Probably about two miles from According to Fish and Wildlife
Washington State, they get the most reports from Buck Creek Campground,
and that's two miles from where this little story happened.
Pretty remote, rugged area. I'm camped in a like a

(01:10:30):
cutout to look a little clearing. I picked that spot
because it has open sky for set up my starlink,
but it's right on the river, and so I'm parked
facing towards the river and my buddy Austin is parked
facing away from the river, and our ladders are both
coming down kind of maybe eight feet apart from each other.

(01:10:53):
And we camped this way a lot. We camp all
over Washington and Oregon. So like the closest campground is
two miles to the west, and then the next closest
campground is like maybe four miles to the east Sulfur Springs,

(01:11:15):
and there's a few pullouts, but they're like over a
mile away. So we're sitting there. It's starting to get dark,
and we're kind of sitting in behind my forerunner, and
so I have if you've seen pictures of it, I
have a swing out hitch that has a table on
it for cooking and stuff like that, and so we're

(01:11:38):
sitting behind it, and I also have a refrigerator freezer
cold beer. So we're sitting back behind that, and I'm
about five feet from the tree line and the river's
over here, and I keep hearing something to my right
and the trees, but it sounds like somebody's having a conversation,

(01:11:58):
but it's just outside the edge of my hearing, and
so I'm like looking over and Austin's like, dude, what's
going on? I'm like, what do you mean? He's like,
you keep looking over there. I'm like, well, I keep
hearing something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I said, do you not hear that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
And he's like no, I said, keep hearing like somebody
talking over here to the right, back in the tree lines.
But I can't quite understand what they're saying. But I'm like,
you know, maybe because I try to rationalize everything, maybe
it's the whole like water Paradoila type thing, So like
babbling brooks, there's a whole effect that goes with moving

(01:12:35):
water running over rocks and things where it can sound
like somebody talking. I think that's why they call them
babbling brooks. It sounds like somebody babbling. So I just
kind of attributed it to that. We go to bed
at ten thirty and at eleven o five, i'd already

(01:12:55):
gone to sleep, but I had a recorder running. You
hear the first tree knock and it's quite a ways away,
it's pretty distant, and then over the next minute and
a half you hear a succession of tree docks that
get closer, until eventually the last one woke me up
and it sounded metallic, almost like a gunshot. But it

(01:13:19):
was like right there, and I'll send you the audio
so you can hear it. It's pretty eye opening. So
that happened right there in the Swaddle Valley. So I

(01:13:40):
get home and I don't know if this explains it
or not, but I was telling my wife about it,
and I'm planning the audio for her, and she's like,
it's crazy. She said, if you looked at your rig.
It's like, well, yeah, I did. I'll walk around the
next morning to see if anything was out of place,
having had that experience at Mount Baker. So we go

(01:14:00):
down to my parking spot and start walking around, and
I realize that on the passenger door there's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
A new dent about the size of a rock that
was not there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
I mean, I regularly clean that rig, so I know
like where every dent, every scratch is. So I don't
know if it's possible to. I'll send you the audio
file of that so you can hear it and maybe
you can tell me if you think it's a rock.
But it definitely has a metallic quality to it, so
that may be an explanation. But you hear it, get

(01:14:37):
closer and closer and closer.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, I'd love to take a listen to that. That'd
be pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Jimmy, you are getting involved already. I mean it's only
been a few years. You've already been in some crazy adventures.
I love it, man, It's like, what are you going
to get into next?

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
We're signing twenty twenty six and like the rest this
year too. So this weekend I'm going to the Sasquatch
Summit and Ocean Shores at the quinnat Casino. Then Thanksgiving weekend,
I'm going back to the Simco Mountains to go down
and see if we can recreate what happened or get

(01:15:17):
something new to happen. We also have some interviews to
finish up with some events that happened out there. It's
a really interesting area. And then after that, there's one
more research event that I know of before the end
of the year, and then I'm already filling my calendar

(01:15:37):
with stuff for next year.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Yeah. Same. My wife's like, when are we going on
family vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
I'm like, well, you better plan it soon while I
still have weekends and stuff open, because twenty twenty six
is going to be a banger.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Yeah. I get it, I get it. I have a
I have a certain amount I can.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
You guys like, there's three or four areas that were
actively researching that have a lot of activity going on,
and we're kind of spreading ourselves around hitting those areas
as often as possible. One of them in the on
the Olympic side, kind of where the grays Harbor footcast was.

(01:16:21):
We're doing some research out there and with Jonathan and
Sarah and their crew, and we've gotten some pretty pretty
interesting vocals and you know, heard things while we're sitting
in camp, moving through the brush nearby, and one of
one of our research partners, I won't tell his story

(01:16:45):
because it's his, but he had a really really interesting
siding in the middle of the night across into a
little clearing where something may have there may have been
two that split.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Apart and ran. Oh wow, really yeah, it was pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
So we're planning on going back, you know, to that
area again, just trying to get as much as much
research as we can, to keep documenting and collecting evidence.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
To contribute to the community. I think that's that's great. You.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I can tell you definitely got a good heart for this, Jimmy,
and you're really getting out there and doing some solid,
solid research but also helping out with different events.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
It's it's a cool combination.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
But I just want to say thank you for coming
on the show and for you know, sharing everything that
you have.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Been involved so far.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
You know, we'll definitely be keeping in touch, but could
you take a few minutes and share with people again,
you know, just remind them how they can keep up
to what you're doing out there. The YouTube channel and
the podcast and just everything you got going on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Sure, so kind of your one stop shop is my
website www dot off road xfiles dot com. There's no hyphens,
no periods other than the www dot in the dot com.
It's all one word off road x files. You can
get to my podcast through there, you can get to
my videos. I have my favorites links if you want

(01:18:22):
to see what my build is for my Forerunner.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
So I've put like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Probably an excess of thirty thousand dollars in modifications into
my Forerunner. It's fairly unique, but I have the complete
build listed on the website with all the different things
that are installed. Eventually I'll do a complete video series
on how everything works and why I picked it, because
I think that's important. Also, it's like videos my podcast.

(01:18:55):
My podcast is on Spotify, but I found that you
tube is way more successful with getting people to listen,
and I'm trying to move towards having video along with
the podcast as well, so there's something for them to
see as well. That's the biggest complaint I've had. It's
just audio with a static picture, so I'm going to

(01:19:17):
try to raise the bar on that. But my podcast,
off Road x Files is on Spotify, iHeartRadio, good Pods, Audible,
Amazon podcast, and YouTube of course, and then also have
a Facebook page off road x files. There's two pages.

(01:19:38):
One is like an actual page, please go to that one.
That's where I'm primarily active. The other one is like
you have to accept friends and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Well, definitely that's how you're going to keep up to
date with everything Jimmy's got going on.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
But thank you so much for coming on. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
We'll definitely keep in touch and hopefully I'm able to
meet you some event out there someday.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
For sure, you ought to come out to the conference
and hang out. It's going to be a really great one.
And then people can also keep up with the conference
at Beyond the Footprint dot com. We'll have all the latest.
We'll be posting pictures very soon from Sorry, there was
a delay in getting the pictures from the photographer of
the event, but we'll have a lot of pictures coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
But I really appreciate the opportunity. Jeremiah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
You're absolutely one of my favorites. And I'll continued listening
and I'll keep you posted on what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Awesome. Thank you, Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Before we wrap this episode, I want to see something
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told
to stay quiet. If you're a pilot who's seen something
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

(01:21:00):
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

(01:21:21):
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

(01:21:42):
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

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