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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've
got the privilege of talking to Joe today. Joe is
a listener of the show, has experienced some really interesting
things in different states among the years. But thank you
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for coming on to the show today.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
How's it going, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, you're welcome. Man. It's going great. It's a very
nice day here in Missouri.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm excited to hear more about what you've experienced. I
know we'll be talking about some different states that usually
have some really interesting things happen in those states. So
feel free Joe to take us back as far as
you need to when you started to have some of
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these interactions with Bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, so we'll start with Arkansas because that was pretty
much the very first state. I was born on the
Gulf Coast in Mississippi, but I've lived most of my
life in central Arkansas. So we had a bunch of
us were truck drivers at the time. So there's like
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seven of us that decided to lease some property from
a paper company in north central Arkansas, op the neo's
arts and we leave. It was right at five hundred
acres of land, and I don't really want to say
where that's at because we still have that lease, and
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I don't want anybody trying to go in there and
then get hurt and then try to see this kind
of legal thing. You can understand that. But so north
central Arkansas, we hunted there for years, and I was
what they called a rescue driver, so I would sit
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at home with my truck for weeks on in if
somebody's truck broke down, I might run all the way
to California and pick up their trailer and deliver their
load from them. So I only work, you know, maybe
one or two weeks a month, So I would go
up to this property and I would stay there for
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weeks at a time by my a boat, hunted. I
was an avid bow hunter, gear hunter. Everything was great.
This property we had was a pine forest on top
of a mountain in the Ozarks. We had two very
nice creeks at the bottom of the mountains, just beautiful.
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They were full of little streamed by us and brim
and stuff like that. You could go fish. We would
go camp in the summertime. Never had any issues. I
would love to be up there by myself and just
camp out. Well, then they started putting in natural gas
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pipelines and that's kind of when things got started. So
right outside of our main gate there's a natural firebreak
a trail that I went up there one weekend in October.
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This was in twenty fourteen, and I'm going up there
to make sure everybody's ready for dear season. I'm off
there on the road that are all over the country,
so I go put corn in their feeders and make
sure their stands are good. And I'm up there by
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myself with a boat, and I go down this one
fire break that borders are property, and I noticed there's
like these three really large rocks stacked on top of
each other, right in the middle of the path, and
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I thought that was odd. I was like, somebody's trying
to sneak in on our property and they're using this
as a marker on where they need to turn and
go into their stand, but as a lecture. The right
there's an old oak tree that had been falling down,
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probably for ten or twelve years, just laying on the ground.
I'm like, why would somebody need a marker when all
they have to do is walk down the trail and
see the old oak tree so they knew where to turn.
It didn't make any sense. So I just I kind
of took my foot and I pushed over those stacked rocks,
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and I went on and checked everybody's stands, and I
went to where we had a camp site on the
very top of the mountain. And I didn't even bring
a tint. I was just going to sleep in my
truck for the night. But I made a small campfire,
made me a sandwich, pulled out a bag of chips,
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eat my dinner, and I was just about ready to
go to bed, and the most god awful screw you
ever heard come from, Like I think it comes from
where those pipelines peed together, because it made like like
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an interstate through the mountains, through the woods, and every
hair on my body raised up. I've never heard of
anything like that before, especially not out there. I put
my campfire out, I got in my truck, and I
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left because I'm thinking, I'm out here all by myself
with a bow and arrow. Nobody knows where I'm at.
I'm way out in the middle of these mountains, so
I leave. I go find a hotel at one of
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the closest towns too, and I stay in my hotel
all night, and I say I'm not going back there
until daylight. So at daylight I got up. I drove
back to camp. Someone one of our friends, just for
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just so we won't get his name away, I'll call
him Bob, one of the guys that came in during
the middle of the night with his camper trailer. And
he usually brings the camper trailer in around October and
then doesn't take it out until December. Well, on my
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way in to hunt, I noticed that his camper trailer
was there, so he must be on a stand. I
went and hunted that morning unsuccessfully. I didn't see anything
as I'm coming back out, I know to sees as camper.
So I stopped and talked to him, and I tell
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him about what I heard the night before, and he's like,
it's funny. You should mention that he goes last year
when nobody was up here and I was here by myself,
I was laying in my camper, and it sounded like
a freight train came through the woods and it stopped
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right at the back of my camper, and I never
heard another noise. He's the only one that doesn't laugh
at me about believing at Bigfoot. But so to get
back to my story, two weekends later, Arkansas has a
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special modern arms season. It's only like for one weekend
and it's just to kill a dough It's kind of
like a deprivation hunt. So me and a friend decide
we're going to go up there and we're going to
try to kill some meat for the freezer before the
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actual season opens. So this time we have his tint
and it's like a Coleman pop up tent cabin tent.
So at the very center of it, it's like six
foot tall, so you can stand up in it and
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get dressed, but it sets up really quick and tears
down really quick. So we had set this tent up
and we went out scouting around picked out where we
wanted to hunt for the next morning. Well, we had
rain moving in. It was very cloudy that night, and
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it was supposed to rain the next day, but we
wanted to hunt the morning before the strong storms got there.
So once again built a little campfire. We had a
radio on, and then we got ready and we were like, okay,
let's let's go to bed and get some rest. We
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got to get up early and go hunting. We put
out the campfire. We both crawled into the tent and
I'm right there on that edge of sleep, you know,
you get to where that edge of sleep where you're like,
you're not completely asleep, but you're not awake either, And
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I felt him tap my legs and I was like,
what he goes, sh listen, And whenever I came awake,
I could hear the guttural breathing. It wasn't growling. It
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was like a really fat drunk guy snoring almost. I mean,
I can't describe it the way this breathing was, but
every time it breathed out, it rattled my chest. I
could feel it in my chest, and it was maybe
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ten foot behind our tent. But you know how you
can hear when someone is talking from the left or
right or over there. This thing was above our tent.
It was taller than our tent, and it must have
had the biggest chest cavity of anything I've ever heard.
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It was not a bear. If it had to have
been a bear, it had to have been like one
of those Yukon gold giant brown bears or something, and
it had to have been standing up on its feet.
Both of our weapons were stealing my truck in bags unloaded.
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Like I said it was, it was very cloudy, rain
was coming in. It was a very dark. There was
no name, there was no stars, and we're just laying
there in pitch dark blackness. The only thing I could
think was I had a pocket knife, and so I
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pulled my pocket knife out and I opened it up,
and I had a death grip on that pocket knife,
and I laid it on my chest. I said, well,
if this thing's going to get us, it's not going
to go down without a fight. I've never been so
scared of anything in my entire life. At the time,
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I was forty three years old. I've never heard anything
like that, and it's right there. It's right outside the tent.
So about fifteen or twenty minutes goes by. It never
touches the tent, It never throws anything at us, It
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never makes any noise other than the breathing. And then
you slowly start to hear the breathing going away, like
it's walking away. And it's a pine forest, so there's
pine needles are covered ground, so it's not like you
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have dry leaves or you can hear footprints walking away.
It just kind of disappears and we end up falling sleep.
I'm somewhere around four or five am. I wake up.
I had to go to the bathroom, so I just
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do what I normally do, throw my cover off of me,
and I start crawling towards the edge of the tent
and I just got to unzip the tent when I
realized I still have the knocks in my hand, and
that brings back, Okay, what just happened, And so I
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freeze and I just start listening to everything around me,
and I can hear the breathing again, but it's not
behind our tents. It sounds like it's across the logging
road that we drove in on, and I know what's
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across that road. It's a bunch of its that's kind
of like a small thicket, very sick, dense brush rowed
up and it sounded like it was behind that. And
so once again I told myself, I am not getting
out of this tent until daylight, until I can see
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what is going on, especially without a gun. I am.
So somehow I managed to lay back down and go
to sleep. The next thing I know, the sun was up,
and I'll wake up and I look at my friend
and he's waking up, and we just kind of look
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at each other. We crawl over unzipped the tent. The
first thing we do is run to the truck, grab
both of our rifles, load them up, and then we
use the bathroom. We hunted that morning successfully did not
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see any deer whatsoever, again, which is unusual for that place.
The rain started picking up and sums were moving in.
So we went back and we broke down that camp
site and left, and on our way out, the only
thing I ever said to him was you know that
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wasn't a bear, right, And he said yeah, but he
was still kind of in shock because I don't think
he's ever been a believer in these things. So that
was Arkansas, and we still have that property there, although
the paper company has come in. They cut down the
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pine trees about three years ago and they plant as
new ones. There is still deer there, but I have
not camped there or been back since my incident. Well,
I went back one time in the daylight to drive
around and see where they cut everything down. But we
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moved to Idaho a couple of months after that, and
I was lucky enough I got to go to I
lived just north of Pocatello, Idaho, so I got to
meet doctor jeffan Over him and Cliff Brockman at one
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of the Bigfoot conferences there in Pocatello. It was a
great day and I talked with doctor jeffan Over him
about the stack rocks and things. And he is very,
very smart, very scientific. He applies the scientific method to everything.
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And when I talked to him about the stack rocks,
he was like, well, you prove that bigfoot stack those up?
And I go, no, I cannot, and he goes, that's right,
we can't prove that bigfoot stacks rocks. We can't prove
that they make structures. We can't prove anything because we
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don't have somebody like Jane Goodall to go out there
and you live with the family of them and watch them.
And the scientific mythic says that we have to witness
this behavior of them to be able to know that
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they were the ones who did it, although I don't
know anyone else who would do it, but that's just science.
Just because you believe a man murdered somebody does not
mean he did unless you actually seen there or have proof.
So then the very next year after I got to
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meet with them and talk to them, a deer hunting
trip I had in Idaho. Once again, I'm by myself
out in the middle of the mountains, so I've always
noticed these deer where I fish at up on the mountain.
So I decided, hey, I'll give that a try and
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see if there's anything there in the fall. So I
parked at my fishing the spot on the Snake River,
very beautiful, heavy trout river. I left my truck and
just started walking up the mountain. I got up to
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a ridge that I could oversee that had a small
now what would you call it? It was like a
small creek coming out of the side of the mountain,
just a little bit of water, and like deer had
been in there, he's in natural water instead of going
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down to the river. And I looked up on the
ridge and there's a whitetail buck up there. I was like, man,
I got in here too late because I don't go
into the woods at dark anymore. But the deer he
cuts over into this heavy stuff, and I'm like, well,
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maybe there's a trail up there. So I walked up.
Sure enough, there's a big game trail up there, and
I started following the game trail to the west. Walking
right along the side of the mountain, I came upon
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the track that I sent you the picture of, and
I wasn't even sure if it was a real track
or not. And then I took about five more steps
and I come out into this water in between two
mountains where the snowmelt and all the rain runs down,
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and that's what you will see on the picture of
the tree. And it's really hard packed, mostly rot, a
lot of sage brush things like that. But then I've
seen this tree and it has a limb ripped off
of it. It's a completely green live tree. If you've
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ever built a campfire, you know you can break deadsticks
they break right away. But I'm sorry, if you break
a green one, the bark doesn't just break. You got
to kind of like strip it off. And that's what
I was seeing on this tree limb. And it wasn't
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I mean fifteen yards away from the print that I've seen.
And I walked up to the tree and curiosity had
got the best of me. So I started doing the
circles around the tree looking for that tree lamb, and
I'm thinking, what could have broke it off? It could
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even if it was a storm, it would have just
snatched off and it would still be hanging by some
of that green bark. Or you know, maybe somebody walked
up this way and broke it off and threw it down.
But I walked circles around that tree up to about
twenty yards out. I never found that tree lamb. And
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if you look at the picture taking a picture of
it going up the mountain, which is that wash has
turned into another main game trail. It's easier for the
elk and the deer to move up and down the
mountain through that and climbing over all the rock. It
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gets really dmp some dark up there, and I started
thinking to myself, you know, I've heard of them building
structures and bedding and stuff. Maybe it tore this limb
off and took it up there. But here we go again.
I'm by myself in the middle of the mountains and
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no one knows where I'm at, so I did not
pursue it any farther. I turned and walked down the
wash back to the logging road coming in beside the river,
and went back to my truck.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Joe, real quick, I'm looking at the photo right now,
But how how tall off the ground would you estimate
that break to be?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That break think was probably about six and a half foot.
I mean, it would be easy for me to reach
up there and grab that limb, but it was about
two inches in diameter. I don't think I could have
snapped that off.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, it is definitely a sizeable branch. I would agree
with you on that estimate of how wide around it
it is. And I mean you can see the trail
pretty close to it too.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, And the footprint was actually pointed in that direction
where I came out onto that wash. It was like
right on the side of it. It was like the
only possible place you could have actually made a footprint
was right there because everything else was either overgrown or
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it was rotted. It was like that was the only
place that had a little bit of uncompacted dirt, you
know what I mean. And I've put it on social
media and I've got slammed for it, Like, while is
there only one prant? Oh, it looks like a cowl
or it could have been a bare double stamps. I'm
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not saying it's big foot. It just got my curity
curiosity to rouse why it was there. And then you know,
a few yards from it, I have this tree with
this limb ripped off. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
It is very weird. And you said on the Snake.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
River right, Yes, it was right outside of a Palisades reservoir.
We lived not far from there were We lived like
an hour and a half hour and forty five minutes
from Yellowstone Park. We lived there by Wyoming and Montana line.
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So if you bring up a Palisades reservoir, it's going
to be right there on the Wyoming line.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh, absolutely, because you've got Palisades, But then you've also
got Swan Valley right there. Right, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And this was to the south of Swan Valley. There's
a dirt road that goes up on the south side
of the Snake River there at Swan Valley, and it
was off to the south on one of those before
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you get to the move.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Absolutely. Yeah, this this location has come up on the
show before. It was back in episode eight fourteen. There
were a ton of accounts that were sure there's been
a lot of things out of happened around Palisades Reservoir
over the years, going back to late nineties, sightings and
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tracks and multiple tracks, screams, roars being growled at. So
I am not actually even things that sounded like the
Sierra sounds. So I'm not surprised that if that's where
you're you know, doing your hunting, that you're you're finding
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stuff like that. I mean, it is a really active
spot in Idaho.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I wish I would have done that while I lived there.
We'd done a little bit more investigator right there you.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Go, there you go, I mean, yeah, you never know.
That's why I've been trying to put this map together.
I have on my website of all like the different
encounters I've taken over the years because like some places
you would have no idea unless you have access to
the information.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
This place in Idaho, I mean you have this is
a very popular trout fishing location.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You have like homes that are along that dirt road.
You have you know, people's vacation homes. They have, you know,
trout hunters and lodges and stuff like that. And the
footprint and the tree was like, I don't know, maybe
a quarter of a mile behind them. I mean, you
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wouldn't think it would be that close to civilization, but
it is.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Absolutely that. It is weird when you start to see
stuff in civilized area, but it's I don't think it's
out of the question for sure. Did you have when
you lived in that area, did you ever talk to
any neighbors to see if you know, they had ever
seen any weird stuff or things like that around the reservoir?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I do, And I have stickers on my throat, and
you know sometimes I've got a big tattoo in the
back of my leg of big Foot and people stop
to me and talk to me. And that's why I
do it, so that I can learn things. Not everybody talks,
you know, what we are now, They don't they were
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kind of scared that people are going to laugh at them.
I don't care if people laugh at me. It's I'm
not saying that it's one true. I'm asking a question,
you know what, what did you run into? What happened
to you? And I have had several people talk to
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me about their experiences, uh some of them in Idaho.
One guy that I actually worked with said that something
through a rocket has head about the size of a softball,
and it hit a tree right in front of him,
and it hit so hard that it sounded like a
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gun going off, and he got scared and ran out
of there and got back to his truck and left
and he's never been back. He also had extremely good
pictures on his phone of a trackway that he found
in Washington, where his parents lived, and I thought that
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was very interesting. So I'm not really sure, I said,
I'm just I'm telling you what happened to me. And
as far as the one in Arkansas goes, I said,
I've never been more scared of anything in my life.
But it didn't try to attack me. It didn't, it
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didn't do anything. It was like it was more curious
than anything. It just kind of stood behind the tent
and walked stuff. And the odd thing is we had
a lot of raccoons there in Arkansas, big ones. They
would have run up and stealed the chips out of
your hand while you were eating them. They were brave.
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But my buddy had left it an open bag of
Cheetos on the chair when we went to bed and
part of the families. Nothing came to our campground that
night and took anything. If it would have been a bear,
I could see it stealing food. Raccoons, Yeah, but nothing
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was touched. Even when we went and hunted the next
morning and come back and broke the campdown, everything was
still there. There had been no animals around our campground
for that entire time.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You know, bringing up the Arkansas situation. I did have
a few questions for you about that, And I know
it sounded like you weren't really in the mindset that
next morning to go looking around at stuff, just because
you're like, get the weapon, use the facilities, right, But
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did you notice like anything of the ordinary, like any
tracks on the ground or that was just totally out
of your mind.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Well, I did try to look for something around the campground,
but it's a pine forest. Like I said, everything is
completely covered with pine needles, so you really don't get
any like crushed down brush or footprints in the mug
or anything like that. It's just a really thick layer
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of dead pond needles. So that being said, we wouldn't
really hanging out that much, you know, to do that much. Lookingly,
we kind of loaded our rifles, got in the truck,
drove on down to the other end of our camp,
and hundreds a little bit until it started ringing, and
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then we come back, just broke everything down and left
as quick as possible.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Gotcha when you were there during that time, besides the
very just the strange breathing noise, did you guys hear
any other sounds that were that didn't really fit the area,
anything else strange that you were hearing?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, there was nothing nothing, No birds, no frogs, no crickets.
Everything was completely silent except for that. And I've been asked, well,
did you see a shadow on the tent? Well, no,
because the moon went now, the stars went out. It
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was cloudy. It was like laying in pitch darkness just
listening to something right behind you and that's all you
can hear. Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Uh at any time where there are any trees or
stick breaks or maybe trees getting sounded like trees fell,
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, nothing, No coyotes, and we have a lot of
coyotes up there, and usually as soon as the sun
goes down, you can hear the packs running chasing rabbits
or whatever they're doing. We heard nothing, nothing whatsoever. We wow.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
So it sounds like you the way you're explaining it
sounds like you're in that that overpowering silence where it's like,
so there's nothing and it's just I don't know if
you've ever experienced that where it's like it's hard to
think because it is so so quiet.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, And as I was panicked, I really was, and
I was gripped in that pocket night and I don't
understand how I fell asleep, because I mean almost as
immediately as we stopped hearing it, I was out. I
fell asleep and I didn't wake up until I needed
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to go to the restroom. Most people would have been
panicking and go, Okay, it's gone, let's get in our truck,
let's go. We fell asleep and slept the whole night.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That that is the thing you hear that you hear
that a lot in these and it's just it's just
one of those weird things you just cannot explain. Not
even any owls in the area.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
No, nothing.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
That that is just that's a freaking night dude. My goodness.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So you've had that in Arkansas and then the things
you you found in Idaho. Is that the last time
that you've experienced anything out of the ordinary or have
there been things where you are currently as well?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Well? I haven't. I haven't been able to get back
out there here lately the past couple of years. They've
had to put me on disability. I was an iron
worker and a loader and everything. My back's gotten bad.
Hopefully the end of September I'll get my last back
surgery so that I can get back out there. And
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so I haven't been able to hunt or do anything
like that in a couple of years, but I'm hoping
to get back out there. We still have property in Arkansas.
The guys want me to come back down and hunt
with them after I get my back surgery. I'm hoping
next year I will actually be able to get back
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down there into Arkansas, and this time is not just
going to be hunting. For deer. You know it's going
to be looking and seeing if there's any signs or
you know, you go through stuff like that. It makes
you look at things differently, it really does. I used
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to love the woods. I would be on my tree
stand at least a half hour before daylight and it's
just magic out in the woods. You hear the birds
wake up, the squirrels start coming down right at daylight,
the forest starts looking up, all the animals are getting out.
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It's purely magic. Yeah, I don't do that anymore. I
am not going into the woods unless it's daylight. I
have to be able to see what's around me. I
really do. I get scared. The woods aren't the same anymore,
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not like they used to be. And I think if
people ever experiencing things like I did, they're not going
to be the same for you either. You're going to
look at them differently.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
It is. It's a weird experience, I don't think. I
think it's hard for people to understand that and let
until they get in the situation like you've been in,
where you experience that thing that is just extremely strange
and has just affected the rest of your life. Now,
is it Okay to mention where your current state is.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yes, okay, uh, we just recently moved to Jefferson c Missouri.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Gotcha. So you're down in Missouri.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Now you.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Have the tattoo on the back of your leg. You
can't really get rid of that, so you have at
least some form of a big footfalling you around. Have
you gotten people down there that have been like, hey,
I've I've had stuff happen down here too.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yes. Absolutely. I went to the ose Art big Foot
Conference last year. I was hoping to go again this year,
but just with medical conditions, I just can't get down there.
But that was in Springfield, Missouri last year, and I
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talked to one other guys that was in the audience,
and he was he was kind of a believer, but
he didn't know what to believe. And I talked to
him in the audience and he said that he was there.
He got elected from his small town in South Missouries
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to come there and learn about it because they had
so many occurrences there, like they've seen them coming out
of their sheds and their barns and stuff and running
off into the woods. And I was trying to talk
to him. I told my story a little bit, and
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then they sent everybody to lunch. Well, when we come
back from lunch, I really wanted to talk to him
and find out what town this was that he had
left and he didn't come back. I've also ran into
people at grocery stores and things like that. We'll say, oor,
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you know you a big foot hunter and I go, well,
I'm kind of a researcher, or what do you got.
They'll tell me, you know, one time when I was
a kid, this happened, and so yeah, it's a great
way to meet people. And I believe the most important
thing we can do as far as researchers or a
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bigfoot community is listen to what other people have done.
Like I say, we're not going to get to go
out there and live with a family of bigfoot and
see what they do and record it all down. So
our best information comes from people like me, people that
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have seen something, They've had something happen to them, and
then maybe somebody on your show hears about it and go, hey,
you know what, that happened to me too, and so
maybe they'll make a report of it, and so we
can start gathering this information up a little by little
one goes, hey, this guy over here, Thank Lewis said this,
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and that matches the same thing in the sky room Pennsylvania,
or you know. I mean, that's how we're getting all
our information of how they behave and what they do.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I think that's a great idea. And the other interesting
thing is, I mean there are people that say they
have I mean that they are I guess not to
the extent of doctor Jane Goodall, but that they have
them on their property and that it's like a habituation
thing going on. But yeah, it's it's interesting when you
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listen to all the accounts, you know, and maybe not
maybe not kick some to the side, right and as
you were saying, you know, kind of listen to everything
that's going out there at all parts of the US
and actually the world really. I mean there's stuff we
can hear from other countries that applies to the US
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to situation as well.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
But yeah, I mean there's just those little small things
that somebody might tell you a story of something they've
seen and there's one little small part of it that
matches with somebody else's story, and it matches with somebody
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else's story, and so that we can get to build
a picture of it. I mean like you would do
if you were, say a murderer investigator and you went
out and interviewed everybody and showing that one little thing
that ties everything together. And that's kind of what I
think is. I love listening to people's stories. I really
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love hearing their sightings because it gives us just that
one little bit more of information every.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Day, Absolutely, Joe. And that's part of why I do
what I do too. The main part is to give
people a place to share where they don't have to
worry about, you know, being made fun of or anything
like that. But it is also it's a learning experience
for me as well. But you know, it's been fun
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talking to you this afternoon, Joe. I want to make
sure that you know you were able to share everything
that you came on the show to share today.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah. I think that that's about it. I'm just ready
to get Sergerie done. I'm ready to get back out
there and put some boots on the ground and you know, see,
we're looking find.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Next absolutely well, once you're able to do so, and
if you do run into some other things, you know,
please reach out. We'd love to hear from you again
and and hear any updates further down the road. But
thanks so much for coming on the show today, Joe, absolutely,
thank you. Thank you for listening to this episode of
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