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September 20, 2025 70 mins
What happens when a spiritually sensitive woman moves to Sweet Home, Oregon — and is immediately flooded with face-to-face sightings, glowing red eyes, and mysterious footprints? In this gripping and emotional episode, we sit down with Chelle Heaton, founder of the Sweet Home, Oregon Sasquatch Research Group, whose lifelong obsession with Bigfoot began with reoccurring childhood dreams and took a stunning turn in the forests of the Oregon Cascades. From ethereal face-to-face encounters to trails filled with 50+ massive prints, Chelle shares how these beings have revealed themselves to her — and even told her they've been protecting her since childhood. You’ll hear stories from Quartzville, Green Peter Reservoir, McKenzie Watershed, and the backroads of Sweet Home — including disappearing figures, energy malfunctions, and the moment she realized the Sasquatch from her dreams might be real. This one’s about connection, calling, and the thin veil between the seen and unseen.

Resources:

Sweet Home FB Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1769549100224800

Chelle on the Area 58 Museum Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQBTRY9xuMo


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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

(00:20):
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. We've
got the privilege of talking to Shelley Heaton today. She
is the founder of the Sweet Home, Oregon Sasquatch Research
group on Facebook and also off of Facebook. I mean,

(00:43):
you guys are out there doing some boots on the
ground research as well, as we'll probably hear about in
a bit. But welcome to the show. Shelley. How are
you doing today?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm doing great, Thank you so much. I'm so excited
to talk to you today.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Absolutely in myself as well. It feels like we were
just all in Oakridge about two months ago, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
That. I know it feels like yesterday, but.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
It was really fun. You were one of the people
that I was excited to meet in person or to
talk a little bit there in person with. And it's
such a fun festival. You know, if people can make
it to the Sasquat Summer Fest in Oakridge, I would
really really recommend that they check it out. And you'll

(01:32):
hear about that as we get closer to it.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
But every year it gets better, it.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Really does, you know, to talk about it for a
little bit, man, there were people. I don't know if
you notice this at your booth, but at my booth,
I was talking to people all over the US that
were at that festival. Yeah, it was crazy. I had
people from Pennsylvania, down California, Canada, man all over and

(01:59):
it is really starting to become a huge festival and
I'm excited to Plans are already made to be there
again next year, so that'd be the third year for me.
So I'm excited. But you know, Shelley, I want to
make sure that we have the time for you to
share some interesting experiences you've been a part of out

(02:22):
there in the Cascade region of Oregon. Would you consider
sweet home to be in the foothills of the Cascades.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
We are directly in the foothills. As a matter of fact.
Our motto is we are the gateway to the Cascades.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I love it. Oh yeah, I love it too. You.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'll tell you what. So before we get going, man,
after the festival last year, I took one twenty six
past Leeberg and Mackenzie Bridge and like over Sandy m
Junction over to Sis and it was like, oh my goodness,
what have I gotten myself into?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
It? Is it crazy? There? That's part of my area too,
all the way. So I researched just north of me
at Detroit Lakes and then I come down to the
Sweet Home area all the way down to Mackenzie Watershed
and then back up to Sisters like that whole area

(03:24):
is my research area. So and it's great. I love it.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Oh wow, I didn't know it was your research area.
Went out that far. That was really good to know.
But I'd say, you know, before we get too far
into it, can you can you share a little bit
about what got you into the whole Bigfoot subject to
begin with?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, I'd love too. So when I was five years
old and it starts. I'll try to make it short.
But when I was five years old, I saw Ufo
with my aunt and I remember all I can really
remember about that incident was that I saw something shiny
and disshaped in the sky. It was hovering rollo over

(04:07):
a cornfield across the street from my house, and I
asked my aunt what is it and she said it's
a ufo and I was like, oh cool. You know,
so that year, and I remember what year it was,
it was nineteen seventy eight. Because I don't know if
you remember this, Jeremiah, I don't know how old you are.

(04:27):
I don't want to aid you. But in nineteen seventy eight,
we had a big snowstorm in the Midwest and there
was like eight feet of snow. So I remember it
being that year because of that snowstorm. And that same
year I started having dreams about Bigfoot. And it was

(04:49):
the same dream. It was a reoccurring dream, and it
scared the heck out of me. I was petrified, and
I had it very often. So I had that dream
from the time I was fo until I was nineteen,
and I finally I remember I woke up one morning
when I was nineteen, and I was crying, and I

(05:10):
was overwhelmed, and I was stressed out because the stream.
I would start out in an old house, in an
old Victorian house, and there was no electricity, and I
remember like gas lamps and wooden furniture, and I'd look
out the front window and there'd be a sasquatch, this
huge hairy man just walking up on the porch and

(05:35):
gently opening the screen door and walking in the living room,
and it startled me, and I would turn around and
I would run through the house out the back door.
And so I'd run out the back door through like
a maybe like a grass field or you know, wheat

(05:56):
or something like that. And every time I would turn around,
he'd be walking behind me. And I felt like he
was chasing me at the time, probably because I was
so young, but he really wasn't. He was just walking
behind me, you know. So fast forward, I had that dream.

(06:18):
My aunt took me to one of her psychic healers
and we discussed it, and you know, she said this
and that, and she said, well, you have to just
confront him and tell him stop scaring me. So I did.
I confronted him, and he got right down into my face,
and I was face to face with him, and he

(06:39):
had the most I don't want to say beautiful but
not It wasn't a threatening face. It was just a
very calm, kind of almost like a monkey face, you know.
And he got right in my face and he said,
please stop scaring me. You're terrorizing me. And so after that,
I continue to have the dreams, but instead of him

(07:02):
coming up to the porch and into the house, he
sat behind a tree in my front yard and just
watched me. He would peek around the tree and just
keep an eye on me, you know. So that was
pretty comforting. But so that's how my obsession with Bigfoot began.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh my goodness, that's incredible. So that was ages five
to nineteen.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Five to nineteen wow, mm hmm. And then when I
was in my early teens, after a friend of mine
had passed away, I started having experiences with mediumship and
I started speaking to people who had passed while I
was sleeping, only while I was sleeping.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
And this all happened in the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
He said, yeah, I lived in Michigan. Yeah, okay, center
of the Palm.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, well that's that's very interesting. So that was definitely
that was east of Mannistee National Forest, I would guess.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay that yeah, right in the center of the palm.
So it's about twelve miles north of Battle Creek, Michigan.
You know Battle Creek where they make the cereal.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's further south than I realized, the south of Grand Rapids. Okay,
well that's cool.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that all happened, and then that's
how I came into my obsession with big I wrote
literally like took over my entire childhood, you know, so
fast forward I did. Just because of the mediumship. I
started really getting into ghost hunting and stuff like that.

(08:45):
And then you know, I lived my life. I did
my bucket list before I had my baby at forty two.
You know. So when I had my my daughter, I
started I became a raking master because I wanted to
you know, try to help heal me my body and
my soul, you know, before really getting into motherhood. And

(09:06):
I started having a lot of you know, feelings of
Bigfoot again. And so I had the opportunity to go
camping in Klamath Falls and Wolf Creek and we had
some way. Yeah, it was oh my god, it was awesome.

(09:27):
It was so primitive. Wolf Creek is so primitive, but
so that when we were up there, I had a
few experiences that were unexplained, just noises and sounds and
feelings energy, you know, vibes and stuff. And so I
was like, you know, I have to move to Oregon.
I was living in California at the time, so I

(09:50):
was like, I got to move to Oregon. So we did.
We packed up and we moved to Oregon. And it
ended up in Sweet Home just because of the location
and circumstances. And when I got to suite at home,
I had I got a car and I had put stickers,
a few Bigfoot stickers on them, and all of a sudden,

(10:14):
it was like a magnet for people who wanted to talk.
And these hunters and fishers and sportsmen would see the
stickers on my card loggers too, Oh my gosh. So
they would see the stickers on my car. They'd either
they'd flag me down when I was driving through town,
or they would wait in the parking lot at the

(10:37):
grocery store and wait for me to come out of
the grocery store to tell me their stories about Bigfoot.
And it was overwhelming. I could not believe the amount
of people, men in particular, who wanted to get this
off their chest. You know what I mean. It was
like it was painful for them, but when they talked

(11:00):
about it, they felt so much relief. And I felt
that from them, and I was like, you know what,
something that Sweet Home doesn't have is a bigfoot group.
And I said, I felt like, I'm I felt like
that this is what I'm supposed to do. This is
what I'm going to do, and this is what I'm
going to focus on. And so I started the Sweet

(11:23):
Home Sasquatch Group and I keep it private and they
trust me, and I keep my locations private, and it's
just ever since I started it, it's just been like
this big, wonderful gift. And so that's when I put
my boots on the ground, was when I started the group,

(11:44):
and that was in February of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
That is such a really cool story of how that
just that whole journey. And because I honestly didn't know
what your background was with all this o's nobody does,
I know.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's why that's why I wanted to tell you, Jeremiah,
because I was like, I feel like this is a
story that is really going to resonate with a lot
of people, and then they'll be able to understand me
a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
So one thing you said it was very interesting. I
want to make sure that I heard it right. So
you're driving around in this town and you have just
a few probably like basic Bigfoot silhouette stickers on the back,
and you have people actually saying like, pull over, I
need to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yes, yes, yeah, that was before I decked my car out.
Now my car my rig is like, well, you know,
it's like the Bigfoot rig. But yeah, this was, this
was before all that. I just had a few stickers
and you know, I think I had one in the
window that said Bigfoot Research you know. Okay, so yeah,

(12:53):
yeah it was it was a magnet. Yeah, how cool
is that? So?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, you you created the group in sweet Home, and
did all of a sudden you start getting these people actually,
you know, doing boots on the ground things with you
in real life, not just on Facebook. You have actual
groups going out and investigating things or how does it

(13:19):
usually go?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah? Yeah, So generally it started out with just me
and Boots on the Ground and I would go to
these locations where the these people who had you know,
stop me or flag me down these reports that I've gotten.
I started going to those specific locations that they had

(13:40):
given me and researching them. And then slowly people in
the group, you know, would started to get interested and
wanted to participate. So now I have a small group.
There are five of us and then myself, so six altogether.
So yeah, and then we just that's what we do.

(14:02):
And then I also have sometimes I have people like
Priscilla from Oakbridge, and I had Jimmy from Washington come down.
So I have different people come down and do research
with me, you know, who have areas of expertise or whatever.
So yeah, so I started learning. Yeah, I started learning

(14:26):
the trails and sweet Home and I know the system. Now.
I went up to the ranger station and I asked
them for a map, and I also asked them for reports,
and they're not allowed to take reports. However, they do
tell me that they get a lot of reports, and
they tell me they give me the locations of where
they get the reports from. So anybody who's listening who

(14:50):
wants to you know, find out more about their area,
go to the ranger station. They don't they're not supposed
to take reports, but if you find the right one,
they'll talk to you.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
So I think that's just really that's a huge takeaway
for it. For listeners, it sounds like you got you
got the relationship going with the Rangers. You were probably
you know, nice, just shelley, bubbly, just the way you are,
and they're like, well, yeah, let's let's contact this person

(15:21):
from here on out, which is really cool. Or maybe
you go there every every week or so and you're like, hey,
anything new. I don't know how you do it, but
it is pretty.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I go there about once a month. Yeah, yeah, once
a month. I'll go in there and you know, see
if they have any new maps or any new information,
you know, and make sure I go in there when
the right people are working, you know, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, your area has come up a few times on
the podcast the I Believe I talked to a lady
about some weird things that happened up in Green Pewter
Reservoir area, And of course, you know, you don't have
to confirm or deny since you know, you're not really
saying locations, which is fine, but yeah, but there are

(16:08):
episodes out there on the same podcast where you can
listen to sweet Home Things. But you know, so the
question for you is, so you move to this area,
you're starting to get the reports from people on the street,
from the rangers. It's really getting interesting. Is there a
time when you first have an actual encounter or something

(16:29):
weird happen in this area to yourself?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Absolutely? Absolutely so. In the summer of twenty four, right
after I started the group, I started finding a lot
of structures and footprints in a couple of different camping
areas and also logging areas up off of Highway twenty
and so I didn't really in this area. I didn't

(16:56):
really get a lot. I went up to Washington and
I did some research up there with a friend of mine,
and I had some experiences like rock clapping and stuff
like that, but I didn't really start I didn't visually
see anything until this summer, and so this is when
it all started to happen, And so I went up.

(17:22):
I guess I'll just I'll start with the summer. I
went up in the spring to one of the local campgrounds.
It was two days after they had actually opened. It
was like, I think they opened on May seventh, and
I went on the ninth or something like that, and
we were driving down a trail and it was a

(17:42):
group camp, so all the group camp sites were locked,
the gates were locked, but the trail was open. And
we were one of my research partners and I were
in We were driving in my car down the trail
and it's an out and back. So we're driving down
the trail and I thought I saw to the left

(18:03):
of me like a head and shoulders and a back
or something. And I didn't know right away if it
was a bear or what it was. So I hurried
up and stopped the car. And when I stopped the car,
a tree was blocking me, so I had to back up.
So I stopped the car, backed up, took me about

(18:24):
thirty four seconds, and I looked again, and that head
and shoulders that still had the back to me. And
mind you, the bushes, the very bushes and stuff like
that were really high, so it was really thick, thick,
kind of prickly stuff that you would have to truck through.
So he was about ten feet away, and then when

(18:45):
I backed up and looked, he was like another thirty
feet away. And it was so strange, it was like
time laps. So I was like okay, And I looked
down and I said, look at that. Look look and
I grabbed my phone and as I lifted my phone up,
it had moved another like thirty or forty feet to

(19:09):
the left, so it was behind me. I couldn't really
turn around, and you know, so I backed up again
and it disappeared. So just like that, it was like boom,
boom boom, and it was gone. And I was just like, okay,
what just happened here? Because this is not normal. Like

(19:32):
I said, it was kind of like time laps, so
it was really just kind of in pictures almost. I
didn't see it move, and so that was my first experience. Wow.
And yeah, it startled me and I thought, well, maybe
I'm going crazy. I don't know, you know, because it

(19:52):
wasn't normal. It definitely wasn't natural.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Man, I want to hang out there for a minute.
So that just it is so very interesting. So you
saw it from the back view, head and shoulders back.
How tall would you say it was? Approximately?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh, at least six feet? Okay, I know that if
I if I would have stood up, it would have
you know, towered at least ahead or so above me.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And would you say it was a certain color.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, it was like a like a reddish brown, but
it was on the softer side, so like a pale
reddish brown. Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
At any time did you see a front view of
it or was it always from the back view?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Never? It was always from the back or from the
back side. But I didn't get a profile of it.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Gotcha? Were you able to were you able to see
what maybe the shape of the head looked like even
from the back.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, it was conical, definitely conical, and it I didn't
have ears, and that's why I thought at first it
could have been a bear. But then I was like,
it doesn't look like a bear. It looks like that's
the only thing I could associate with it because I've
never seen it in real life, you know what I mean.
So the first thing you think of is what can

(21:16):
I compare it to? And I thought, well, it's got
to be a bear, but no, not the way that
it moved.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, it's you also said something really interesting, which I
hear come up a lot, and which is when you
have a sighting of something immediately or soon after, sometimes
the person will jump to I'm not crazy. I'm not crazy,
because it is so jarring, right, and I've heard that

(21:43):
come up multiple times. So was this the thing that really, like,
were you already over the one hundred percent mark or
did this like really push you over once you had
this actual sighting?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, this pushed me over. I was like at ninety
nine percent just because I had such a strong pull
to it. You know, my childhood was surrounded with you know,
this this thing, and but this pushed me over one
hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
My goodness, It's just it is absolutely wild. The person.
So there was another person with you, right.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, so this I had my one of my research partners,
Tammy Virus with me. Okay, yeah, but she didn't see it.
She did not say I pointed. I was like look, Tammy, look,
and she just she did not see it. Oh but
something I forgot something when we had So it was
an in and out trail. So we went down and
returned around and came back. And as we were leaving

(22:45):
that trail, something was in those bushes right alongside the
car on Tammy's side, which would have been the same
side that I had saw the creature on. Something was
moving the bushes and I would stop the car and
Tammy and say the bushes are moving, they're moving, you know,

(23:05):
and I'd start the car and they'd start moving again.
And it did that almost all the way off the trail,
but we never saw anything in the bushes. Wow.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
What What an incredible thing to experience. Also, if people
are listening and they are thinking the same thing, like, oh,
I'm crazy for seeing this, You're not. You are You're
not crazy. It's just this is a thing where it's
very unique to see and it's a special thing for
you to see. So don't think you're crazy again.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh man, So after you had that sighting, did that
how did that affect you? Did you have any out
of place emotions or thoughts or did it make your
life weird? For a while?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
It did well. It made me want to go back
out there, and it made me want to just I
kind of started obsessing over it, like I need to
be out there. I need to you know, I need
to figure out what this was and what it meant,
because I felt like it was there. There was a
reason why I saw it. So I felt like, you know,

(24:16):
at their head, this can't be it, you know what
I mean, Like there's a message. I don't know what
it is, but I need to find out, you know.
So yeah, so I went up. I started going out
very often, like two, three, four times a week even,
and I started, you know, doing the trail, all the

(24:40):
trails up there in that area really hardcore. And as
a matter of fact, one of the specific trail is
one of the trails that the ranger told me that
they had had sightings on. So so I was taking
the trails and I took another friend up there with me,
who is not to be named because he wants to
remain anonymous, and him and I together we were finding

(25:05):
structures and prints. And one time when we were coming
out of this long trail, I was driving probably about
ten or fifteen miles an hour that's usually my speed
limit back there, and I was watching in front of me,
and probably about I would say, maybe two hundred feet
in front of me, I saw two black shadow, well

(25:27):
one black shadow, but I saw it twice. It crossed
the road and then it came back really quickly, and
I stopped the car and I told my friend, I said,
what is going on up here? There's something going on.
I just saw something. And just as he looked up,
we both saw it again, and he was just like, wait,

(25:49):
did you just see blah blah blah, And I said, yeah,
that's exactly what I saw. So I saw it twice
and then you saw it once, and you know, so
I saw it three times. So we saw that and
we I then I had to research that, you know,
like there's a lot of different stories about the shadow
people of the forest and how they're messengers or protectors

(26:11):
or you know things like that. So yeah, that was
my Yeah, it was really intense, also life changing. You know,
did you.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
After you've had these experiences, did you notice any change
in dreams at all?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
No, not at all, which is really surprising to me
because since I've been in Sweet Home, I have not
had any of my previous dreams that I have had,
and none about Sasquatch. Yeah, and so that was another thing,
Jeremiah that things for reminded me. I felt like, because
I was missing those dreams, I was missing something and

(27:02):
I wanted to communicate with them, and I felt like
maybe I was in the right It made me feel
like Sweet Home was the right spot because they were
actually reaching out to me and communicating with me in
real life now, like we switched from one medium to another.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's really cool. It's like, we don't have to we
don't have to do that anymore because she's right there.
That is actually really.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Exactly exactly yeah yeah. So ah So anyways, I got stopped.
I got flagged after that. I got flagged down by
a logger at the bank one time. Actually I was
it was it's a funny story. I was over in
the line at Dairy Queen. I was getting ice cream

(27:48):
with my daughter and he was over at the bank
and he yelled at me. He's like, hey, have your
phone bigfoot yet, you know. And so we're talking. We're
yelling back and forth, and we exchanged numbers and he's
a great guy. He ended up telling me about a
spot up in Quartzville. And Quartzville is where Green Peter

(28:11):
Reservoir is, and it is full of water and it
is full of quarts and it is one of the
most energetic places I have ever been. I love it there.
I spend all my time, and all the locals love
it there too. That's like their playground, you know. So

(28:32):
so I went up there and I hung out, you know,
every day or every other day for a couple of
weeks in the spring. This was still spring and I
took my anonymous friend up there with me again, and
we were cruising around and we found a spot where

(28:56):
there was just a really fresh, beautiful a canopy of
moss on top of asphalt. So it was an old
blogging road and the road had been blocked off by
concrete barriers. And we pulled up to the concrete barrier,
and I'd been there a couple times before that week,

(29:17):
and I wanted to show him because I thought it
was just so beautiful with all the moss and everything
was a beautiful spot. And we pulled down and we
could tell that the moss was pulled up like there
was something going on, something that ran through there. And
he said, well, hold on a second, let me get
out and check it out. So he got out, and
he walked out about maybe about fifty feet or so,

(29:39):
and he turns around and looks at me and he he,
you know, does that beckoning call with his finger, like
come here, you know. So I got out of the car,
and as soon as I got to the other side
of the barrier, there were just bigfootprints everywhere like they
had just ran through their and you can see it's

(30:01):
kind of a downward slope and you could see a
slot like there would be slides that were like two
three four feet long, and then a footprint. And this
went on for maybe gosh, I don't know, maybe about
one hundred or two hundred yards. So there was I

(30:21):
quit counting after I got to fifty. I lost track.
There were elk prints too. Later on, I took somebody
up there with me and I showed it to him,
and he showed me that some of them were elk prints,
and he showed he stuck his fingers in the moss
and he pushed it back and he showed me, so
this is what an elk print looks like, but this

(30:41):
is what a big footprint looks like. So there were
elk and big footprints. And at the time when I
had first I actually recorded it. It's on the web
or on the Facebook page. Actually Priscilla recorded it, and
I didn't know that at that time, but I know
that now. So yeah, so we were like, okay, this

(31:05):
is the place, you know. And a couple of weeks
after that, I was driving through with Tammy and Lee Sanford.
She's in my group, she's one of my research she's
actually one of the original researchers and we were driving
together down that road and I looked kind of looking forward,

(31:31):
and then I kind of glanced off to the left
a little bit, and this bigfoot appeared right in front
of me and from the toes up, just kind of
manifested and was standing there in between two trees, and
I could see like it was it was absolutely an

(31:54):
organic figure. It had hair, I could see it fingers,
and then just as quick as it appeared, it disappeared.
And I stopped the car and I told Tammy and Lee,
I said, did you guys see that? And I started
hyperventilating because it was it startled me, and They're like, no,

(32:16):
what are you talking about. I'm like, you gotta be
kidding me. This is twice now that I've seen them
with somebody, but they haven't, you know. So then I
started really thinking, Okay, God, what's wrong with me? You know, Like,
am I manifesting this myself or what? But Jeremiah, this

(32:40):
is the interesting thing is when I got home, I
cried about it for about twenty minutes. I was so
upset because nobody else saw what I saw, and it
spoke to me and it told me I have been
with you your whole life. I've been protecting you. So

(33:05):
I met him. He was the one in my dream.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Okay, wow, oh that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, I know it still gives me goose bumps when
I think about it. But that's when, like around the
time that I started having I guess telepathy with them
or visions. It's more like visions of you know, seeing
things and stuff. When I went down to the footprints,

(33:36):
I remember I turned around and I looked, and I
was like, where did they come from? And I thought,
there's a road, there's another road. There a trail that
goes up and then it's blocked by a bunch of
trees and stuff. But then on the corner there's some
trails and there's an old what do you call it
the line where like the loggers used to use to

(33:58):
run the logs down the hill. I forget what it's called.
It's like a spit spit line or something or I
don't know, Yeah, I forget what it's called. But anyways,
that's a you know, it would be a good trail,
especially for big game and stuff. But in my mind,
I saw them come down that the paved asphalt trail,

(34:23):
and I said, that's where they came from. And the
person I was with was like, no, no, no, I
think they came from up there where that old bogging
trail is up on the hill. And I was like, no,
they came down the asphalt. So I drove up there
and lo and behold, there's a whole bunch of prints
going all the way back and over those trees logs
that were lying down over the asphalt. So and there's

(34:46):
also a moss up there on the sides of the
road and the asphalt. So that's where I saw the
prince was in that moss right there, these visions start
happening or this telet that the starts happening, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That's exactly where I wanted to go. So that is
that just started happening this year in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that just started happening this spring in May,
as soon as I, you know, really started getting into
these trails up here in Courtsville. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
So that's that's extremely interesting, and it kind of there's
there's a theory I have which is people go to
certain areas, especially in the Pacific Northwest, that are like,
I don't want to say, well, kind of heavily charged

(35:42):
with bigfoot activity, like really really charged, like we're talking like,
you know, Oak Cole is probably another example of this,
And after they go away from there, sometimes stuff will
kick in. They'll start experiencing the same exact things that
you just mentioned, which is maybe things like telepathy or

(36:04):
you know, sometimes I talked to many, many people that
went up to that area in Oakridge and then they
started having really intense dreams and related phenomenons. So I
don't know exactly what it is, but it really lines
up with how you're explaining what you're experiencing.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah. Yeah, when he told me, I I wanted to
mention too that when he told me that he was
protecting me my whole life, Jeremiah, that rings true because
I needed that kind of protection when I was younger,
because I was surrounded by a few really bad people,
but I didn't experience the badness as bad as I

(36:47):
could have. So that resonates with me, Like I do
believe that I had some kind of spiritual protection during
that time in my life. It could have been way worse,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Absolutely, So yeah, knowing you know, you have a lot
of knowledge about this area and living in the Pacific Northwest,
and this is just a really active bigfoot area.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Have you.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Are most of the things that you hear relatively peaceful
encounters when a person has a sighting, or are there
times when things can escalate or bluff charges things like that.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
That's a really great question, and I've been studying that.
So during the spring and summer, they are very peaceful interactions.
There's no aggression. It's usually family oriented or you know,
it's just some guys outfish and whatever. They don't start

(37:55):
getting aggressive until hunting seasons starts, and both seasons starts
August thirty first, and in August mid August is when
these reports start getting aggressive.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, it makes sense that you have humans going out
there with their weapons, and of course things might get aggressive, right.
I would too if someone came out to my house
with something.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
With a grocery sack and like started taking food out
of your refrigerator. That's what I compare it to. You know,
it's like they're competing for a food source now, so
you know, they're like, hey, okay, just get out of here,
you know, yeah, totally. So recently I wanted to tell

(38:48):
you this. This is I know that I had scheduled
an appointment to talk to you earlier, but that was
during the time when I was having a lot of
stuff going around going on around me with the bigfoots,
and I wanted to wait and kind of write it
out and see what else was going to happen. And

(39:10):
so this happened four weeks ago and I was driving
down Quartzville Road and actually it had started. I had
meetings on the last Saturday of every month. We all
meet at this place called the Damn Bar in Sweet Home,
and you know, it's for anybody who was interested in

(39:31):
talking about bigfoot. You know, we gather, we hang out,
and then you know, we go out squatch and afterwards
that's really fun. And most of the time I have
one of my group members, Eric Massey. He's one of
my advans. I love him to death. He's a squatcher
through and through. He comes all the way from Ben
and he camps because that's kind of a long drive,

(39:54):
you know. So he camps up in Quartsville and we
always go up there and we go up to that
spot now I call it my spot, the sweet Spot,
and we camp. And so one night, this was four
weeks ago, at our last meeting, we went up there
and nothing was happening. It was super quiet, and I'm

(40:15):
so close, like as the crow flies. I'm probably about
maybe fifteen miles maybe twenty at the most away from
my spot, you know, so it takes me about an
hour to get home. I was like, dude, there's that.
I'm not camping tonight. I'm gonna go home. I want
to sleep in my bed and I'll be back at
six o'clock in the morning. And he's like, all right, cool.

(40:37):
You know. He had his fiance with him, so he
wasn't alone, you know. And so I headed down the hill.
I was excited because I wanted to see how fast
I could get down the hill in the dark. So
I time myself and it took like seven minutes. I
was like, wow, this is awesome. I'm driving down the road,

(40:57):
Quartsville Road, and I get to this really popular camp
site and there's a curve and right as I come
around the curve, right straight in front of me, about
fifty two one hundred feet in front of me is
two sets of red glowing eyes. And there's one set

(41:20):
on the left side of me that's really low to
the ground, really low to the ground, like its head
was on the ground, and then to the right there
was another set of eyes that was from the side
of the road. From the ground, it was probably about
four feet or maybe five feet up in the air,
so it was relatively low to the ground. And the

(41:44):
first I instantly slowed way down, almost to a complete stop.
As a matter of fact, I think I did stop
for a moment completely, And I remember thinking right away,
who is in the woods in the middle of the night.
It was ten thirty. It was ten thirty at night,
in pitch dark, with like steampunk goggles, you know, That's

(42:10):
the first thing I thought of. I'm like, who has
steampunk goggles in the mill of nite on Quartzville Road.
This is just crazy. So I started sneaking up. I'm
going about ten miles an hour, and I'm sneaking up
to them. I'm getting really really close to them, and
I'm just looking at them. And then I noticed that
their eyes are kind of shaped. They're about as big
around as a large a large chicken egg, and they're

(42:36):
so far apart they would each eye would be. You
could measure it by probably putting the eggs on the
side of my head. That's how far apart. Their eyes
were and I thought, this isn't an owl. There's no
you know, it's not an owl. Their heads aren't that big.
It's not an elk. You know, elks are huge, they

(42:58):
have horns. You know. All these things are running through
my head. And the one to the right behind the tree,
and I say she because it just gave me that
feminine energy. I could see a silhouette and she kind
of had curly hair, and she would look she'd look

(43:19):
at me, and then she's kind of standing sideways behind
a tree, so I can only see her from the
shoulder off, and she'd look at me, and then she'd
turn around and look behind her. And she did that
maybe three or four times. She was trying to pay
attention to something that was behind her. And then I

(43:39):
looked over at the one on the ground and it
kind of locked eyes with me. To the one on
the left hand side of the road. It locked eyes
with me, and it didn't take its eyes off me.
It just kept his eyes on me the whole time.
I looked back to the right to that one, and
she was doing the same thing, and she was kind

(44:00):
of making it was like a weird motion. It was
like a real delicate kind of sway. And then I
looked over again at the one on the left, and
I was so close I was almost even with and
my headlights went over its back, and as it did that,
it's back kind of rippled and like this sparkly kind

(44:24):
of glow, like an iridescent kind of glow, and it
just it watched me pass and my window was down.
Never once did I have the feeling like I should
roll my window up. I didn't. I wasn't scared. It
didn't make me feel uneasy. It just made me like, wonder,

(44:46):
what is it? You know? And yeah, So I passed
through both, in between both of them, and he's literally
ten feet away from me. He's right on the side
of the road, and I passed between them, and I
remember I slowed down right down again once I got
probably about one and a half two car links away

(45:08):
from them, and I looked in my rear view mirror
and I couldn't see anything, nothing at all. I was like, Okay.
I took a deep breath, and I drove home, and
I thought about it a little bit and I was like, oh,
I don't whatever. I got to be up at six
o'clock in the morning. So I went to bed and
I came back at six through at six o'clock in
the morning, and I remember I stopped and I looked,

(45:31):
and I saw that on the side, on the driver's side,
where the one was really low to the ground, there's
a culver there, and if you were to stand in
it and bend over, you would be even with the
ground with you know, your head would be on the
ground on the side of the road. The calver is
probably about four feet deep at least. And then I

(45:55):
looked on the other side of the road and the
grass is all pushed down, and also there is a calvert.
And later on me and my other friend went up
there and checked it out, and there's a footprint there
and if you would stand, if you would stand where
that creature was standing, it would be about seven to
eight feet tall.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
That is incredible. When you were driving down there that night,
So did you have lights on whatever it was or
we did you have your lights off?

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah? No, So when I came around the corner, I
had my bright lights on and when I saw them,
instantly I flicked down to my dims. Okay, because I
didn't I didn't want to blind them, you know, and
just instant reaction. I just flicked them down to my
dims and I kept my dims on until I passed
them because I didn't, like I said, I didn't want

(46:49):
to blind them, you know, I was just thinking trying
to be courteous, you know. And this was before I
had my floodlights on. Like a few days after that,
I ordered floodlights for my car. I was like, I
need floodlights. And also I got cameras for my car too,
So now I have front and back cameras. I wish

(47:09):
I would have had them during that time.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
But yeah, after you put the cameras in, did you
notice that you were still having things happen when you're
driving around different places or did that kind of did
that peter out?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, petered out? Yep, Yeah, yep. So I started just recently,
within the past couple of weeks, I started actually turning
my cameras off when I drive into certain places because
I don't want to. I feel like they know, you know,
they know, they don't want to be seen. And I

(47:47):
have a theory about their eyes too. I think that
because I've I posted about it in my group and
in the Sasquatch Highway because I admin that group as well,
and I posted about it asking people, you know, hey,
have you seen these red glowing eyes? Not yellow, not blue,
not you know, purple, whatever red glowing eyes and what

(48:09):
people's theories are on it. And I've come to a
conclusion that I don't think it has anything to do
with them being evil or you know, a dog man
or anything like that. And my personal belief, this is
my personal belief. I believe that it could be a
way for them to signal to other sasquatch that they're

(48:32):
with that you know here I am, That's how they
keep track of each other, you know. Or it could
even be like a night vision for them, like that's
how they see at night.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I would say, I have heard some similar things, and
I think you are on a very interesting track. I'll
leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, Yeah, it's still new. That's where I'm leaning at least. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
You mentioned that your research area goes up to Detroit
sometimes Detroit, Oregon. I drove up through there on the
way to Esta Kaida after the festival last year. Detroit
is such an interesting area. I mean, it was it's
very hard to explain. It's beautiful. You have the island

(49:26):
in the middle of Detroit Lake. But it's just something
about I mean, it feels heavy in there. It's very weird.
I tried to talk to a few people. I was
stopping at random places. No one was really wanting to talk.
It was interesting. Yeah, have you had anything interesting happen

(49:51):
up there in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Not anything out of the ordinary, aside from that heavy
feeling that you talk about. So when we go up there,
we camp on the south side of the lake, and
that area actually backs up to Quartzville area, so they're connected.
You can actually take the trails back there and you
can drive all the way to Detroit Lake from Quartzville

(50:15):
and it's awesome. It's so because it goes through the
old Santium Forest and everything else. But as far as
Detroit Lake goes, it's just a feeling. It's that heavy feeling.
But yeah, no, we've never never, but I've heard so
many reports of that area. That area in Highway twenty two,

(50:37):
twenty two is the one that goes through Detroit and
the lakes. On the north side of twenty two. There's
a lake up there called Fay Lake that I research
a lot, and I have quite a few reports of
them being very aggressive up there, and it's usually during

(50:58):
hunting season, and it's men who take their campers up there.
They'll actually throw rocks and sticks and shake the campers
at night when they're sleeping. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Okay, yeah you said, did you say Fay Lake.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Say f a y Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Okay Fay. I was like, Fae that would be interesting,
So f a y Lake now mm hmm, because you
brought it up again, and I was like, if she
brings it up again, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask a
little bit more.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
So.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
You mentioned that this area does have a lot of
aggressive reports. Are there any that you can and think
of in particular or it's just you find certain patterns
in these reports that usually come out when it's an
aggressive report.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
M hmm. Well, I there's a gentleman that I talked to.
Him and his brother in law. I've both had experiences
up there during hunting season with their campers, and yeah,
it was just the rock throwing at the camp and
then the shaking of the campers. And he told me
that his brother in law was so frightened that he

(52:06):
just he hooked his trailer back up and left that
night before it even got daylight. He was odd of
there and he won't go back. So but the gentleman
who gave me the report, he told me he's really
cautious when he goes up there. He pays attention to
his surroundings. And you know, and I notice a lot
of people too, like they won't a lot of these

(52:27):
hunters they want to remain anonymous because they're like flesh
and blood, you know. But when they go out into
the forest, they'll talk to him and they'll be like, hey,
I'm here peacefully. I don't you know, mean you any harm.
I'm just I just want to get my deer for
the winner and go, you know. And I noticed that

(52:49):
when they when they talk to him and just you know,
tell them their intentions and manifest that spiritual protection or whatever,
that they'll have better experiences out there.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Oh wow, So you're these are a actual hunters that
are talking in a way that you you might not
normally hear hunters talk. But it seems like they're aware
of that we better do this or there could be
could be issues. Absolutely fascinating.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah, it really is. Because I want to mention too,
like they will that changed them. Those experiences that they
had with Bigfoot changed them and made them more like
spiritual beings.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
You know absolutely, I mean that would that would really
change you? Did I tell you? Actually, I wouldn't have
been able to tell you because this happened after the festival.
I don't know if if you've heard. So I was
up in oak hole and I actually did try speaking
out loud to the forest. What happened?

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Nice that happened? It was weird.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
It was really weird.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Shelley.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
So it's in you know where o Cole is, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Was there a couple of weeks ago with Persilla.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah, so you met you know the meadow, right, So
picture the meadow and then there's that opening in the back.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
So I was.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I was walking back in that opening behind the meadow
and I was like, hey, if there's anything here, can
you make a noise? And like half a second later
there was there was like a three knocks in the woods,
and I was like, oh my goodness, And I said

(54:42):
it again. I tried it because I was like, that
just had to be you know, that just had to
be like coincidence, right. So I did the same thing again,
and the same thing happened, and I was like, I'm
out of here, Like I was, I'm getting back to
Ronnie and those guys. I should walked, I should have
walked into the woods, but I was like, I don't

(55:02):
want to. I'm I'm out here. Yeah that's not smart, right, Yeah,
it was awesome, it was it was freaky.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, I bet. I remember Priscilla telling me about that,
but she didn't tell me who it was. But now
I know. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. I was still
stuck there a couple of weeks ago, and this is
this is another really cool thing, Jeremiah that I figured out. So, like,
I'm really into maps and mapping and like lay lines

(55:30):
and stuff like that. So I've been studying the region
and I finally figured out a couple of weekends ago
when I was up at Oak Hole. We went over
to al Moonlab and checked that out for a bit.
That Quartsville, Oak Cole and all Moonlab make a perfect
triangle on the map. That crazy. Yes, and Mackenzie Watershed

(55:57):
runs right through it. Yeah, and Mackenzie Watershed is a
huge place. They have a huge lot tons of reports
out of there. Yeah, okay, wow, crazy, I know, I
know it.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah, I've actually never heard that term before. Mackenzie Watershed.
Is that just a term for region in that area?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Or well, the Mackenzie River runs through there, Okay, so
and Okol and Almon Lab and Quartzville are all. They
all have like a lot of quartz and stuff, a
lot of rock, you know, it's up in the mountains
of course, but the quartz in particular is it's an

(56:43):
energy rock. You know, it's a conduit. So with the
water and everything, with Mackenzie River being right there, I
have a theory that it's just a really really powerful
energy point in that whole area.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Absolutely. I remembers I've heard and talked to so many
people over these it was either a conversation with Tobe
or an interview with Tobe where he was talking about
where's That's pretty much what Henry Franzoni would bring up
about the Al Moon Lab areas. There's so much quartz
and also you have the water as well, and it

(57:20):
just it potentially charges it, right, which is absolutely interesting
to think of.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
And I think that's yeah, that's my Oa. Cole and
al Moon Lamb in Quartsville are so active and there's
so many reports coming out of those areas is because
and I kind of feel like too, like the attitude
is different. They're not, as far as I know, even
in Oak Hole and Al Moonlab, they're not super aggressive

(57:47):
and they're more willing to communicate. So maybe that might
have something to do with it. It could.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I'm trying to think real quick. Well, let's see, I
the only aggressive thing would be and this is This
is all in how you'd interpret it, because you've got
Ronnie and Dwaine's encounter. Ronnie made the noise that was aggressive,
and I think that was kind of a bluff charge thing,

(58:14):
an extended bluff charge for multiple hours kind of aggressive.
But yeah, everything else, you know, you're capturing language and
voices on audio sometimes up there. Have you had anything
out of the ordinary happen up there at all?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah, So most of the stuff that I've experienced has
been electronic. So when we were up there, when I
was up there with Priscilla a couple of weeks ago,
we were having a lot of equipment malfunctions, our cameras, audio,
everything was just malfunctioning. I think Ben drove up there,
Persilla's son, and he something was going weird with his car.

(58:56):
Or his car battery or something. I also have a
lot of electronic malfunctions over in my area with my car,
not with any of my equipment, but the mirrors on
my car. So I've got a twenty seventeen out back,
so I have eyesight and it's a you know, it's

(59:16):
a limited edition, so it's got the works. And on
my mirrors, I have that blind spot sensor. It'll blink
when there's a car in my blind spot. And this
has only happen up at Quartzville. On Quartzville Road at night,

(59:37):
those sensors will occasionally go off, and it's so weird
because first the one on the left will go off,
or the one on the right will go off, and
then directly after the one on the left will go off,
kind of like something's running behind my car, you know,
and there's there's no cars or anything behind me. So

(59:59):
I get that all lot up there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, that's that's the kind of thing that makes you
makes you think for sure when when you hear stuff
like that, just very very weird stuff. You said that
you go over to Sisters as well, is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yeah? Sisters area, Yeah, it's we go up to Santiam
Junction and then Tombstone Passes up there and everything, and
then towards Sisters. I haven't done any overnight camps or
anything up there, but it's a beautiful place I do have.
There's been several members in the group who have seen

(01:00:40):
structures and footprints up and Sisters, So okay, I need
to I need to do a little more exploring up there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah, it's it's really an interesting area. I stayed at
a place called Subtle Lake there after the festival for
a few days and drove up to a place called
Camp Sherman, which a beautiful area. I mean it's like
a trout fishing vacation area, but it's like, yeah, you
get out in those woods, it's a whole different time

(01:01:13):
period for sure. You just feel like you're back in
the fifties or something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
It's weird, right, Yeah, it's really weird. That's like up
at Courtzville there's old logging cabins that you can't really
get to, but you can see them if you stop.
I mean you look over the hill and down and
you can see these old logging cabins that had probably
been abandoned for one hundred years. You know. That's so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Since we're talking about Quartzville, have you do you have
any thoughts about the whole Giant store thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I do. I actually I researched that area. Now. You know,
we all know about the video that went viral, and
then there's been a couple other videos of people repelling
down that rope. There's a rope there, and I don't
advise anybody to do it because it's a very steep
slope and the rope ends abruptly thirty feet off the

(01:02:09):
ground and if you were to fall, you would definitely
hurt yourself. But there had been bigfoot. There's two that
I know of bigfoot reportings of somebody seeing one on
top of that ridge up there. But as far as

(01:02:29):
the door goes, the only thing I've really heard about
that is that video that went viral and then a
couple of other people who checked it out. I don't
really it doesn't It doesn't really pique my interest all
that much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
It's just it's one of those weird, you know, kind
of viral TikTok things. And then when I found out
where it was, I was like, oh, yeah, okay, well
that kind of makes sense. But you know, with the
sweet Home group, Shelle, do you have a a goal
in mind? You know, why is it that that you

(01:03:05):
want to keep growing this group? What is it that
you guys are working towards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yeah, so, I think in the beginning I wanted to
be able to connect with somebody in this way because
of my special interest in it and because I just
I needed that support at that time in my life.
And there's several things about the group, like I don't

(01:03:35):
you know as far as growing it, that's I'm not
interested in growing that. I admin for the Sasquatch Highway
and you know his group. Ken's group is huge, and
I love that it's growing every day, and it's it's
a perfect place for everybody to go. My group is
I vet everybody very carefully because of privacy issues, because

(01:03:59):
of beliefs. If you don't believe in Bigfoot, I don't
particularly think that my group would be good for you.
If you're interested, or you have an open mind, or
you want to know more and explore, by all means,
please come join us, you know, but I can't. I

(01:04:21):
for number one, one of my pet peeves is people
trolling on the internet. I hate it. I don't It's
unnecessary it's the past time I can't get into you
know what I mean. So it's it's a serious group.
And so now my goal for the group is just
exploration and research. I just the more researchers I know,

(01:04:45):
the more I learn, and I love that. It's it's
ultimately it's for me, you know, it's for my own
you know, source of information and education. But anybody is
welcome to join. Just know that you'll be vetted. So

(01:05:05):
if you don't believe, Yeah, if you don't believe, then
go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Right, It is a really good group. You do a
really good job with keeping drama and stuff out of it,
and I appreciate that as a member.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
As our time starts to to wrap up, I do
I'm curious just because of you know, the way you
view things in your background, having also had a few visuals,
do you have any thoughts about, you know, what a
bigfoot actually is when we are or what a sasquatch actually?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's real, and I think it's
a flesh and blood type creature who has the abilities
that we either can't haven't been able to really tap
into yet, or abilities that we've lost over you know

(01:06:04):
the ages. I think that it's there's a reason why
it's here. And I believe that once you're tagged, you're tagged,
and that if you have one experience, you will continue
to have more experiences upon their discretion. I don't think

(01:06:25):
that they're by chance. I think that there's a purpose.
I do think that some people have, you know, happened
to come upon them accidentally or something like that. But
I think that a lot of these people, a lot
of the serious researchers in the community, they've been tagged

(01:06:46):
and they've been chosen, and there's so much more to learn,
and I think we're starting to finally come into that
age of you know what exactly it is. I don't
know exactly what it is, what the message is, but
it could just be personal for each one of us.
It could just be a personal message, and each one

(01:07:08):
of our messages is different. But they're spiritual. There's something
metaphysical about them, and it's magical and it's I'm going
to start crying, that's a way to put it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's awesome, And that's just how I feel about them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yeah, Mi, Shelley, this has been a great conversation. I
want to say thank you so much for coming on
the show. I want to make sure you were able
to share everything that you had wanted to share on
the show today as we start to close out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yeah, I think I did want to mention that just
recently I got some really cool photos up on the
ridge in Quartsville of what I think could be portal,
So I don't know if you guys are interested in that,
then head over to the Sweet Home organ Sasquatch research

(01:08:06):
group page and check that out. The photos are there.
I get a lot of conflicting reports from photographers and
stuff like that, but I think they're really interesting and
they do coincide with some things that I've seen up there.
So yeah, but that's it. I think we covered everything, Jeremiah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
That's fantastic up until today, which is pretty awesome actually.
And I'll have the link for Shelley's group in the
description or show notes for this episode guys, so you
can easily find it. But thank you so much for
coming on the show, Shelley, and look forward to being

(01:08:48):
able to talk to you in person next year as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Absolutely, I can't wait. Thank you, Jeremiah, thank.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
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