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In this shocking and emotional episode, a former Canadian student shares the unforgettable series of events that unfolded while living outside Rolla, Missouri—a rugged, wooded landscape hiding far more than wildlife. What began as strange rocks hitting the trailer roof escalated into one of the most disturbing signs of a Sasquatch encounter ever reported: the violent death of the household’s pet potbelly pig, found with its neck crushed upward and a hind leg torn clean off.
Through firsthand testimony—and the reactions of two Romanian roommates unfamiliar with North American cryptids—you’ll hear how repeated encounters, window sightings, tree knocks, and a dramatic riverbank observation painted a chilling picture of something massive sharing their 240 wooded acres.
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In this shocking and emotional episode, a former Canadian student shares the unforgettable series of events that unfolded while living outside Rolla, Missouri—a rugged, wooded landscape hiding far more than wildlife. What began as strange rocks hitting the trailer roof escalated into one of the most disturbing signs of a Sasquatch encounter ever reported: the violent death of the household’s pet potbelly pig, found with its neck crushed upward and a hind leg torn clean off.
Through firsthand testimony—and the reactions of two Romanian roommates unfamiliar with North American cryptids—you’ll hear how repeated encounters, window sightings, tree knocks, and a dramatic riverbank observation painted a chilling picture of something massive sharing their 240 wooded acres.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Jeremiah from the Big for Society Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I've got a preview for a special members episode for you,
and it is a wild one. It's all about an
individual named Curtis and what his Romanian friends experienced way
out in the woods outside Aurala, Missouri, and it gets
pretty wild. If you want to hear the whole thirty
five minute episode, please consider becoming a supporting member of
(00:25):
the Big for Society Podcast. You can do that one
to two ways. You can either go to Big for
Society podcast dot com click on the members login button
to join through supercast, or you can go over to
YouTube dot com to the Big for Society YouTube channel
page and you can click the join button over there,
and that's how you'll hear episodes ad free and also
(00:46):
these members only episodes that you won't hear anywhere else.
Either way, you're gonna hear the ten minute preview of
this episode, so enjoy and hope to see you in
the inside. Hey Curtis, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hey, how's it going? Can you hear me? Hey?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, you sound great.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
As you can see.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I am in Canada, but this was when I lived
in the state of Missouri.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh nice, perfect.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So I lived in Missouri. Mine's a bit of a
weird story and it has like some fun things added
to it that make it to me seem a lot
more factual. Obviously. So I lived in the state of Missouri.
I am Canadian, but I went to school in Missouri.
I went there in the end of nineteen ninety nine,
(01:31):
so I was there for the year two thousand until
two thousand and four. And I had a couple of
roommates and they were not from America either. They were
actually from Romania, so obviously learning English was something for them.
It turns out that I too grew up Romanian, so
for me, I could talk to them and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It was fine.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But we lived out in outside of Ralla, Missouri, and
we were up in the hills and we had like
a trailer home, I guess you'd call it right, like
the long mobile style homes, and then we had two
hundred and forty acres of woods behind us. Now there
was like there was caves and stuff nearby that we
(02:14):
went and did some tours of that belonged to private properties,
so we know that the topography there was really unique.
So it was really quite a rugged area. But my
story is strange that in the fact that I had
these two roommates that they didn't have any idea about
North American cryptids or anything, because they're coming from a
(02:35):
country that has a lot of folklore, you know, like
stories to them mostly would be like about vampires and
wear wolves and things of that nature, you know, things
that to us were like, Okay, that's neat, but it's
old folklore. So for me to hear accounts of their
stories about what we experienced was that was the most
(02:56):
interesting to me because they had no firsthand knowledge of
what they were experiencing aside from the fact that they
were experiencing something. So it all started. It was around
October because we were just getting ready to get into
deer season, and I remember the two of them were
in the kitchen and they told me that they heard
(03:20):
what they thought it was hailing outside.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So we went outside.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And it was I said, guys, there's no rain, there's
no nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's nice.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Don't worry. Because they were really nervous about tornadoes. They
went through their first storm season in the state and
it really made them nervous. So when they heard like
clanking on our tin roof, they thought, you know, should
we seek shelter because we had a little storm shelter
on the property. So I went outside and there was nothing, like.
The sky was clear. I could see we would get
(03:49):
the planes fly over from Jefferson Air Force Base quite
a bit, and I could I could clearly hear airplanes
flying by, and sometimes when they were doing their training,
you could hear when they would break sound barrier would
make a big noise, and sometimes it would feel like
you could hear the roof rattle on the trailer. So
I thought, well, it wasn't that, because I can see
aeronautical lights in the sky.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Nothing special.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And I went back in and I stood in the
kitchen with them for a little bit. They used to
eat at really weird hours of the night because they
weren't quite adjusted to our our time zone. So it's
like eight thirty nine o'clock at night in October and
they're cooking their dinner at that time, and I am
standing with them talking and we're going over some stuff
(04:33):
we're going to do the next day and I and
I hear the clinking again, and I'm like, well, what okay?
So I was just out there, So I went out
and now I was on a j one like student visa.
I didn't have any firearms. I was. I was hunting
with some friends there that they allowed me to go
(04:55):
out with them and sit in their tree stands and
stuff like that for deer.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That's what I mean when I.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Say it was just about deer season for us. And
so I went around back and I didn't have any
weapons or anything.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I wasn't expecting anything.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And I went around to the back of our cabin
and something fell off the roof and hit me on
the shoulder. And I looked down and there was a
rock on the ground, like just a you know, something
smaller than.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
A golf ball.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And I was like, what the heck, where did that
come from? At first I thought something got thrown off
me or thrown at me. So I went inside and
got my spotlight. When I came out, there was other
rocks on the roof. When I turned around and looked
so where our part of the trailer was, there was
a few just standard Like are you familiar with the
(05:39):
trees they call them like hedge apples?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely got them in eyeway.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So we had hedge apples nearby, but there was no
hedge apples on the ground. There was no hedge apples
on the roof, but I immediately show my light up
there because I thought, oh, maybe some hedge apples are
falling up there. And there was like a good amount
of rocks just sitting on the on the t and
you know, a corrugated tin roof, sometimes stuff lands on
(06:04):
it doesn't slide right off. And I was like, maybe
that's what we were hearing. So I went inside and
I told them what I found, and then I saw
it to myself, well, why the heck are they up there?
I didn't it didn't dawn on me at all that,
you know. I just thought, oh, there's rocks on the roof,
(06:25):
And then when I went inside, I was like, well, yeah,
where the heck did they come from? So I tried
not to think too much of it. I was just like,
whatever it is, what it is. If it happens again,
we'll have an issue. So I went to bed that
night and I was confused by the whole thing. But
I woke up in the morning and one of my
roommates told me she was in like when she was
doing the dishes at night, that she saw something go
(06:47):
past the window, and I said, well, what did you
see go past the window?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And she says, well, it was like a big person.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And the way our trailer sat it was on bricks,
and then we had like lattice that went underneath, so
that if you needed to access the underside for like
the plumbing or anything like that, you could just like
open up the gate and go underneath. So I knew
that the kitchen window sat up pretty high. So I
went out there with Eugenie and I said, hey, let's walk.
I want to walk past this window, and you tell
(07:17):
me if you can see us when we walk by,
because she said that she saw like shoulders and head
walk by the window. I'm not a very tall guy
man like I'm brtally honest, I'm like five six, so
I'm not a good judge of height. But he was
probably like five ten. And we both walked by, and
neither of us were anywhere close to the actual window
(07:40):
where we would look out like or be able to
look in. I could see the window ledge and I
could see her looking out, which was like, okay, I
can definitely see that, but I can't stop and look
in the window or if I were to walk past it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
She wouldn't be able to see it.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
She said she could see the top of our heads,
no problem, Like she looked down and then she could
see it.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So I was like, okay, well what is this.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And we had a lot of leaves and stuff around
our around the trailer, so I couldn't see if anybody
had walked by. Like there was no footprints or anything.
Nothing crazy, nothing out of the ordinary. So again, chalk
it up to whatever we go inside, we talk about it.
I just tell them not to worry, no big deal.
(08:26):
There's a lot of stuff out here animal wise, maybe
something walk by.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And we.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Went about a week without any other incidents, like nothing
happened and.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Everything was good and everything was normal.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
We had a pot belly pig, like one of those
ones that we had thought it was going to be
like stay small and be really cute, and it ended
up being really.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Big, and.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We used to let him roam around out in the
yard and he had those like the big tusk teeth
there at the bottom. And I remember our vet told
us that a lot of people when they keep them
as pets, they use like a hand wire and they
saw those off so that they're you know, they they
don't have to worry about the pig catching it with
that tooth because it's really sharp. We never did it
(09:15):
because we let him be outside a lot, so we
thought that's gonna be the only way that he can
protect himself, so we'll just let him, you know, keep
those not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
The vet said it wouldn't harm him. And it was into.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Like probably the beginning of November, after these incidents, and
I remember we went outside one warning to get right.
We were getting the four wheelers warmed up and we
were going to go for a ride, and we found
him and he was out by one of our outbuildings
and where his you know, I don't know if a
lot of you guys are familiar, but a pig, they
can't look up. Their neck doesn't move that way.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
We found him.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
He was on the ground and his neck was caved
in from the base of his spine, like where his
neck met his back, and it was like a U
sh ape. So the only way I could explain it
was he was looking up. Does that make sense? Like
something hit it so hard that the vertebrate vertebrate fractured
(10:12):
and the neck was up. So we're like, okay, well
this isn't this isn't good. So we look and one
of his hind legs on the other side, when we
flipped them over because we saw blood and we didn't
know what it was. The hind leg on the one
side had been like ripped off, but it wasn't like
(10:32):
a clean cut.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It was like the hide was.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Torn in places and the leg was gone, but there
was no drag marks on the ground where it had
gone away, like where like a coyote or something. We'd
seen coyotes out on the property a lot. And I
remember hearing stories somebody told me before. There was stories
about like a Missouri howler or something like that, like
a type of wolfer, or like a cryptid out there
(10:56):
or something like that. And I again, I I've been
an outdoorsman the majority of my life, and I knew
that there would be signed, there'd be drag marks if
something dragged off a portion of our pig our pet.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And there was nothing. It was just gone.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So that really stuck with us because it was the
way that his neck was arched upwards, like something had
just hit down on it was such force that when
it fractured the vertebrae, it caused that U shape in
the spine, and that was pretty terrifying because immediately I
looked around next to him because I thought, well, maybe
(11:35):
a tree branch fell and hit him, like a big
heavy branch fell hit him, broke his neck and he
stumbled a little bit and landed right there, like you know,
fell on the ground, and there was nothing around man,
Like the ground was disturbed, like the leaves were moved around,
there was dirt kicked up, So there was definitely a
scuffle of some type out there. And we didn't hear
anything that night either, And the night prior to that
(11:58):
we had had a rainstorm, so I don't think if
we would have tried, we would have hurt anything, because
if anybody's ever slept in a trailer with a tin
roof during a rainstorm, that's all you hear.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So we didn't hear anything.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And you know, unlike a lot of these encounters that
I've heard prior, I've talked to individuals with the BFRO
about this. I talked to a guy named I think
it was Bender Nagel was his last name or something.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
He had messaged me
Hey, this is Jeremiah from the Big for Society Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I've got a preview for a special members episode for you,
and it is a wild one. It's all about an
individual named Curtis and what his Romanian friends experienced way
out in the woods outside Aurala, Missouri, and it gets
pretty wild. If you want to hear the whole thirty
five minute episode, please consider becoming a supporting member of
(00:25):
the Big for Society Podcast. You can do that one
to two ways. You can either go to Big for
Society podcast dot com click on the members login button
to join through supercast, or you can go over to
YouTube dot com to the Big for Society YouTube channel
page and you can click the join button over there,
and that's how you'll hear episodes ad free and also
(00:46):
these members only episodes that you won't hear anywhere else.
Either way, you're gonna hear the ten minute preview of
this episode, so enjoy and hope to see you in
the inside. Hey Curtis, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hey, how's it going? Can you hear me? Hey?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, you sound great.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
As you can see.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I am in Canada, but this was when I lived
in the state of Missouri.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh nice, perfect.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So I lived in Missouri. Mine's a bit of a
weird story and it has like some fun things added
to it that make it to me seem a lot
more factual. Obviously. So I lived in the state of Missouri.
I am Canadian, but I went to school in Missouri.
I went there in the end of nineteen ninety nine,
(01:31):
so I was there for the year two thousand until
two thousand and four. And I had a couple of
roommates and they were not from America either. They were
actually from Romania, so obviously learning English was something for them.
It turns out that I too grew up Romanian, so
for me, I could talk to them and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It was fine.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But we lived out in outside of Ralla, Missouri, and
we were up in the hills and we had like
a trailer home, I guess you'd call it right, like
the long mobile style homes, and then we had two
hundred and forty acres of woods behind us. Now there
was like there was caves and stuff nearby that we
(02:14):
went and did some tours of that belonged to private properties,
so we know that the topography there was really unique.
So it was really quite a rugged area. But my
story is strange that in the fact that I had
these two roommates that they didn't have any idea about
North American cryptids or anything, because they're coming from a
(02:35):
country that has a lot of folklore, you know, like
stories to them mostly would be like about vampires and
wear wolves and things of that nature, you know, things
that to us were like, Okay, that's neat, but it's
old folklore. So for me to hear accounts of their
stories about what we experienced was that was the most
(02:56):
interesting to me because they had no firsthand knowledge of
what they were experiencing aside from the fact that they
were experiencing something. So it all started. It was around
October because we were just getting ready to get into
deer season, and I remember the two of them were
in the kitchen and they told me that they heard
(03:20):
what they thought it was hailing outside.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So we went outside.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And it was I said, guys, there's no rain, there's
no nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's nice.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Don't worry. Because they were really nervous about tornadoes. They
went through their first storm season in the state and
it really made them nervous. So when they heard like
clanking on our tin roof, they thought, you know, should
we seek shelter because we had a little storm shelter
on the property. So I went outside and there was nothing, like.
The sky was clear. I could see we would get
(03:49):
the planes fly over from Jefferson Air Force Base quite
a bit, and I could I could clearly hear airplanes
flying by, and sometimes when they were doing their training,
you could hear when they would break sound barrier would
make a big noise, and sometimes it would feel like
you could hear the roof rattle on the trailer. So
I thought, well, it wasn't that, because I can see
aeronautical lights in the sky.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Nothing special.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And I went back in and I stood in the
kitchen with them for a little bit. They used to
eat at really weird hours of the night because they
weren't quite adjusted to our our time zone. So it's
like eight thirty nine o'clock at night in October and
they're cooking their dinner at that time, and I am
standing with them talking and we're going over some stuff
(04:33):
we're going to do the next day and I and
I hear the clinking again, and I'm like, well, what okay?
So I was just out there, So I went out
and now I was on a j one like student visa.
I didn't have any firearms. I was. I was hunting
with some friends there that they allowed me to go
(04:55):
out with them and sit in their tree stands and
stuff like that for deer.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That's what I mean when I.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Say it was just about deer season for us. And
so I went around back and I didn't have any
weapons or anything.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I wasn't expecting anything.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And I went around to the back of our cabin
and something fell off the roof and hit me on
the shoulder. And I looked down and there was a
rock on the ground, like just a you know, something
smaller than.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
A golf ball.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And I was like, what the heck, where did that
come from? At first I thought something got thrown off
me or thrown at me. So I went inside and
got my spotlight. When I came out, there was other
rocks on the roof. When I turned around and looked
so where our part of the trailer was, there was
a few just standard Like are you familiar with the
(05:39):
trees they call them like hedge apples?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely got them in eyeway.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So we had hedge apples nearby, but there was no
hedge apples on the ground. There was no hedge apples
on the roof, but I immediately show my light up
there because I thought, oh, maybe some hedge apples are
falling up there. And there was like a good amount
of rocks just sitting on the on the t and
you know, a corrugated tin roof, sometimes stuff lands on
(06:04):
it doesn't slide right off. And I was like, maybe
that's what we were hearing. So I went inside and
I told them what I found, and then I saw
it to myself, well, why the heck are they up there?
I didn't it didn't dawn on me at all that,
you know. I just thought, oh, there's rocks on the roof,
(06:25):
And then when I went inside, I was like, well, yeah,
where the heck did they come from? So I tried
not to think too much of it. I was just like,
whatever it is, what it is. If it happens again,
we'll have an issue. So I went to bed that
night and I was confused by the whole thing. But
I woke up in the morning and one of my
roommates told me she was in like when she was
doing the dishes at night, that she saw something go
(06:47):
past the window, and I said, well, what did you
see go past the window?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And she says, well, it was like a big person.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And the way our trailer sat it was on bricks,
and then we had like lattice that went underneath, so
that if you needed to access the underside for like
the plumbing or anything like that, you could just like
open up the gate and go underneath. So I knew
that the kitchen window sat up pretty high. So I
went out there with Eugenie and I said, hey, let's walk.
I want to walk past this window, and you tell
(07:17):
me if you can see us when we walk by,
because she said that she saw like shoulders and head
walk by the window. I'm not a very tall guy
man like I'm brtally honest, I'm like five six, so
I'm not a good judge of height. But he was
probably like five ten. And we both walked by, and
neither of us were anywhere close to the actual window
(07:40):
where we would look out like or be able to
look in. I could see the window ledge and I
could see her looking out, which was like, okay, I
can definitely see that, but I can't stop and look
in the window or if I were to walk past it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
She wouldn't be able to see it.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
She said she could see the top of our heads,
no problem, Like she looked down and then she could
see it.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So I was like, okay, well what is this.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And we had a lot of leaves and stuff around
our around the trailer, so I couldn't see if anybody
had walked by. Like there was no footprints or anything.
Nothing crazy, nothing out of the ordinary. So again, chalk
it up to whatever we go inside, we talk about it.
I just tell them not to worry, no big deal.
(08:26):
There's a lot of stuff out here animal wise, maybe
something walk by.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And we.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Went about a week without any other incidents, like nothing
happened and.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Everything was good and everything was normal.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
We had a pot belly pig, like one of those
ones that we had thought it was going to be
like stay small and be really cute, and it ended
up being really.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Big, and.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We used to let him roam around out in the
yard and he had those like the big tusk teeth
there at the bottom. And I remember our vet told
us that a lot of people when they keep them
as pets, they use like a hand wire and they
saw those off so that they're you know, they they
don't have to worry about the pig catching it with
that tooth because it's really sharp. We never did it
(09:15):
because we let him be outside a lot, so we
thought that's gonna be the only way that he can
protect himself, so we'll just let him, you know, keep
those not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
The vet said it wouldn't harm him. And it was into.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Like probably the beginning of November, after these incidents, and
I remember we went outside one warning to get right.
We were getting the four wheelers warmed up and we
were going to go for a ride, and we found
him and he was out by one of our outbuildings
and where his you know, I don't know if a
lot of you guys are familiar, but a pig, they
can't look up. Their neck doesn't move that way.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
We found him.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
He was on the ground and his neck was caved
in from the base of his spine, like where his
neck met his back, and it was like a U
sh ape. So the only way I could explain it
was he was looking up. Does that make sense? Like
something hit it so hard that the vertebrate vertebrate fractured
(10:12):
and the neck was up. So we're like, okay, well
this isn't this isn't good. So we look and one
of his hind legs on the other side, when we
flipped them over because we saw blood and we didn't
know what it was. The hind leg on the one
side had been like ripped off, but it wasn't like
(10:32):
a clean cut.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It was like the hide was.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Torn in places and the leg was gone, but there
was no drag marks on the ground where it had
gone away, like where like a coyote or something. We'd
seen coyotes out on the property a lot. And I
remember hearing stories somebody told me before. There was stories
about like a Missouri howler or something like that, like
a type of wolfer, or like a cryptid out there
(10:56):
or something like that. And I again, I I've been
an outdoorsman the majority of my life, and I knew
that there would be signed, there'd be drag marks if
something dragged off a portion of our pig our pet.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And there was nothing. It was just gone.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So that really stuck with us because it was the
way that his neck was arched upwards, like something had
just hit down on it was such force that when
it fractured the vertebrae, it caused that U shape in
the spine, and that was pretty terrifying because immediately I
looked around next to him because I thought, well, maybe
(11:35):
a tree branch fell and hit him, like a big
heavy branch fell hit him, broke his neck and he
stumbled a little bit and landed right there, like you know,
fell on the ground, and there was nothing around man,
Like the ground was disturbed, like the leaves were moved around,
there was dirt kicked up, So there was definitely a
scuffle of some type out there. And we didn't hear
anything that night either, And the night prior to that
(11:58):
we had had a rainstorm, so I don't think if
we would have tried, we would have hurt anything, because
if anybody's ever slept in a trailer with a tin
roof during a rainstorm, that's all you hear.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So we didn't hear anything.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And you know, unlike a lot of these encounters that
I've heard prior, I've talked to individuals with the BFRO
about this. I talked to a guy named I think
it was Bender Nagel was his last name or something.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
He had messaged me
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