Texas Woman Finds Headless Horses in Bigfoot Territory!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Big Flat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
These are the.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,
because today you'll hear another account that just might change
the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Hey, Lisa,
how are you?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
How are you do?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
In great?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So it sounds like you have an encounter of yours
to share.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yes, I have an encounter. I'm originally from Texas. I
live in New England now, but I lived on the
Brass River Bright if you know where Lake Whitney is.
I lived in the first house that was on the
side of the dam. And I was really young, like
nineteen years old. But my husband, he worked in Dallas,

(01:04):
so he would leave every morning at like at three
o'clock in the morning to go to Dallas to go
to work three to four and we lived right on
the river and there was dogs out there, and I
would go out and sit. And I'd been raised in
Texas and lived in different places. But I started hearing
things running across the river, and you could hear the

(01:29):
thump of the feet, and I just got chills. And
after I heard the sound of it running, I heard
it climbing up up. Something was climbing up. There was
like a big hill, not a mountain, but a big hill.
And so this went on for like three days, three

(01:50):
different times I saw I heard it. I couldn't see
it because it's pitch black. But my husband and we
decided I had told him about it, and we decided
we were going to do some investigating of our own,
and so we went. And this area is between Waco
and Whitney, and at that time, it's like forty mileels
of nothing, just a few farms. And we started walking

(02:13):
in the woods and the first thing we noticed that
there was no birds or anything making any sound. And
we started smelling horrible, horrible smells. And as we were walking,
we found a dead horse. And the thing about the
horse is it was missing its head. And so we

(02:37):
saw the first dead horse. We kept walking. Evidently weren't
too smart at that time, but anyway, we kept walking
and then there was another dead horse, and at about
that time we heard some movement, but it wasn't a
movement like what you would think. It was more like
a brush of air. And my husband, he's passed it

(03:04):
this time, but he was an avid hunter, avid sportsman,
and he I've never seen someone so scared in my life.
I mean we both took off running and we ran
and ran and ran. And to make a long story short,
we lived there for about a year and I heard

(03:25):
this thing several times. Never went back up into those
mountains or hills to look for it because it was
a terrifying experience. And then I was in Oregon. I
tried to go on with you Live a while back,
but I was in Oregon. I had cancer and I

(03:46):
had surgery in Washington. Then I recovered in Oregon. It's
on the coast, and I was staying at my friend's
house and right on the ocean, which you know, that's
where it was. Walport, Oregon, which has Bigfoot on there
their sign local city sign. And my friend, her husband
is a firefighter, and they were working some fires and

(04:10):
organ and I was covering from surgery. I'd spent five
weeks in the hospital and I had one hundred and
fifty staples in my leg and I couldn't walk. And
I was dog watching their dog and I'm in the
woods and the Oregon and they have these windows that
I didn't stand, but you couldn't close them. You couldn't
close curtains, you couldn't close the blind and something. The

(04:32):
dog was just a little like Kickney's dog, a really
small dog. She started going crazy and something was running
around the house. It was on I didn't it just
sounded like a person running, but whatever it was, it
ran around the house several times. I ended up turning
off all the lights, going to the back bedroom and

(04:53):
kind of like barricading myself in the room because I'm like,
is this the hotown had that area of Waldport is
about fifty miles from Corvallis. In that area there, they
only had like one state trooper that worked that whole area.
And I'm like, there's no one to call. What we're
gonna do? And anyway, So that was my experience with Bigfoot,

(05:15):
and I really do think that they're real, and I
do think that they're inter dimensional because of the sound
that I heard in Texas.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
The.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Brush of air or rush of air. I don't know
how he would say it, but it was real, and
it wasn't a sound that I'd ever heard or that
I've heard since that It just felt like something was moving,
moving in a different area that I wasn't going. And
I do believe they're inter dimensional, and I think the

(05:49):
vell is lifting, and I think that there will continue
to be sightings, and evidently they're pretty aren't creatures, And
I don't know what their row is here on Earth.
You know, who knows where they come from their nephelin,

(06:09):
if they're from that area, that's where they came from,
or what started, you know, with the children of the
Angels and the things that they became. I don't know
if these were spinoffs from that are what happened, But
they're definitely not on the same level of this Earth

(06:30):
as we are. I think that's just my opinion as
far as who knows.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
What they are.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's one of the most interesting topics because there's so
many different ways of looking at it. But you know,
one thing is for sure, there's something out there that
we're at most times not able to see sometimes we
are able to see them though for sure. Now in
Lake Whitney, Texas, when you saw those two horses were

(07:04):
there and you said neither of them had heads. Were
they cut off or torn off? Or could you tell?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
The first horse, I couldn't tell because it was too
far gone so far as everything being not being there.
But the second horse, it looked like I had horses
and showed horses from matt Lock Rose out of North Texas.

(07:39):
If anyone watches Yellowstone, that's where all the horses and
stuff from that show came from North Texas. And the
horse's head was ripped off. It wasn't cut, it was jagged.
It didn't look like a bite. It looked like a
like someone something just ripped the head off.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
You think about it. What kind of things can do that, right?
I mean, there's not many that come to my mind,
some weird stuff. I'm glad you guys got out of there.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
And yeah, it was a bad feeling and the whole
experience ended up us living there on the house. It
was just a bad experience and I never want to
live in Lake Whitney again. But after this bigfoot thing happened,
I was in the house, and you know, I didn't

(08:40):
have a car with me, we didn't have a phone.
And this was back in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Five around that area in Texas. Did you ever talk
to your any other neighbors that had things going on
as well?

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yes, we did. They're all past way now, you know,
the old timers that used to live there and everything,
and it's such an area that is so just desolate.
It used to have more, you know, it was greener
and all that, but now it's just becoming more and
more arid and drying. Texas is turning into a desert

(09:20):
in some places. But there was a lot of people
that I'd seen some things and hard things, but people
don't delve into it. And I don't know why, but
it's something about it that's almost sacred that you just
didn't at that time, we didn't delve into it too much.
Get aary feeling when I was in the area.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I appreciate you coming up and for sharing. Is this
a conversation that I would be able to use on
my opics of the podcast?

Speaker 4 (09:52):
I have, sure, it's fine. I don't have any rights
or anything over the story, and just it's a crazy
woman from Texas, living in New Hampshire now in the
mountains again, but haven't seen anything here.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
But yeah, you can use my story.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Thank you, Thank you guys for I'm saying thank you
and about the experiences, because I've really never talked to
anyone other than like my son's and my close family
about it. And the smell was it wasn't a sulfur smell,
and I don't know if it was a smell from
the horses or if it was a smell from a creature.

(10:32):
I don't know which one it was. Of course, the
horses smelled really bad, but I don't know if it
was the horses or if it was the creature.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
But I do know that something was running along that
river bank because at night, you know, they would generate
through the night and the water would go down really fast.
I mean, fish get caught, and you know when the
water drops, it goes down really fast. And so there
was only a certain time period that would have had

(11:05):
a chance to go down onto the river and then
get back up into the mountains before the the water
came back up. Absolutely, so there was just a small
time period here.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, Lisa, I appreciate you coming up. Thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Thank you, and you guys have a good night.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Hi there, how's it going good?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
How are you good?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Did you have a big fit experience you'd like to share?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I did so.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Have you ever heard of the Hotel California in Kentucky?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Is that by a land between the lakes?

Speaker 6 (11:54):
It is?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
So I was out there with a couple of friends
and we heard tree knocking and screams. At first we
thought somebody was like messing with us because there was
other people.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
In the area.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
But then later we meet them in the parking lot
whenever we're getting ready to leave, and they said that
they heard the exact same thing.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Now there's been that's the big abandoned building area, right, yes, sir, okay,
because there's been other stuff that's happened in the same area, right.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah, there was a supposed werewolf attack in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yep, it's the same area. Wow. Wow, So you experienced
tree knocking? Was there anything else weird going on at
the same time?

Speaker 5 (12:51):
It smelled like two skunks dead. Whenever I was headed
by towards the parking lot, towards my car, my friend
looked at me, and he said, hey, do you smell that?
And I'm like, yeah, it smells like a dead skunker
animal or something. And then after the tree knocking, like

(13:13):
five minutes later, we just hear the most blood curdling scream.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Have you heard of any other recent things that have
happened in that area besides the because I believe that
the dog man attack was in the eighties, right.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yes, as far as I know, yes, there was a
dog man attack in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is that an area you go to pretty often to
check it out?

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Actually, that was my first time going to the Hotel California.
I didn't expect to hear what I thought was a
sasquatch at the time. Either I was actually going to
take pictures and I was actually going there to spray paint.
But I went there to take some pictures too, and
then my friends and I started hearing like banging on trees,

(14:07):
and at first we just thought it was the other
tourists like messing with us, And then we hear the
most and then we hear the scream. And then later
we relocate to like a because it was starting to
get dark, So we go to like a beach and
we see like footprints on the beach, like human footprints,

(14:30):
but like they were like the size of my foot
and my half of my friend's foot put together.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
What would what length? Would you say? That approximately would be.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Fourteen if I had to guess, I'd say fourteen to
fifteen inches.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
And you said that that was pretty recent, that that
dis experience happened back in June, sir, June of twenty
twenty five. Yeah, okay, wow, would you ever go back
to that area again after experiencing that?

Speaker 5 (15:09):
If I'm by myself, no, if I'm with my friends, maybe, Well.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I appreciate you you coming out to share what you experiences.
It's a conversation I can share in my podcast as well.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
All right, well, well, thank you for coming up. If
you ever do experience anything else out there, please feel
free to reach out.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
All right, yes, sir, thank you for your time.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Thank you. Good stuff, good stuff. We're going from one
side of the US to the other. Guys, Lisa, I
just sent your request if you want to share your
uncle's story there?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, oh again, okay, Hello, Well, I was born in Gainesville, Texas.
I don't know if you guys know where that is.
But it's right on the Texas Oklahoma border. Red River.
There used to be a tow bridge there and they
called it the Old tow Bridge. Since gone. You know,
there used to be riverboats that went up and down

(16:07):
the Red River, and there's a lot of houses and
things that were up in the hills that were abandoned
after the you know, the riverboat stopped. And so my
aunt and my uncle they would go and they'd go
scavenging through those places and find a lot of things.
But my uncle, he was my mom's older brother, and

(16:31):
my mom was born in nineteen twenty seven, so he
was like ten years older than my mom, so he
would have been born in like nineteen twenty or somewhere
in that area. And Uncle Bud was his name. He
was old Sage Indian, he was, and we said Indian.
I don't mean to offend anyone. They say Native American

(16:55):
then now, But back when I grew up and we
were Native Americans and we were Indians, no one said
Native America. It wasn't a thing back then. But anyway,
he told me a story about when he was down
in the Red River area. There's a lake there called
Leaper Lake where a bunch of rich people go and

(17:17):
hunt and fish and things like that. And this was
basically this doesn't happen anymore. But I was like thirteen
years old at the time, and he was teaching me
how to drive three on the tree. We're out just
kind of rolling in the backwoods in Texas and Oklahoma,
and he was telling me where to go and everything.

(17:38):
We went, and we stopped on this bridge and it
was an iron bridge, and he was a he had
a purp just a very interesting man. He went to
World War two, had a purple heart, and never he
never talked about it in life. But I had my
mom's Bible and I was going through the Bible and
then I opened it up and there's his purple Heart

(17:59):
award there. And but he said he and his friends
were out on that bridge as teenagers did back in
the nineteen twenties or thirties. And he said that they
were there and the bridge was about at that time,
about ten feet up like, and he said they were
all on the bridge and they started hearing something down

(18:22):
in the river by the river. And the Red River
has quicksand, and I never that's one river. I'd never
even go in the Red River and Trinity River really
anywhere river anymore. But so they were on this bridge
and he said that they kept hearing these things, like
something was like throwing things down in the river bed.

(18:46):
And they're still on the bridge at that time, and they're,
you know, trying to figure out what it is. And
then they were getting real quiet quiet, and he said
that something walked up or I don't even know how
to tell it, but he said that the thing was

(19:07):
so tall that his eyes were over the bridge and
his eyes were red. And this was way back before
like flashlights. People didn't have flashlights back then. This was
lanterns or you know, or nothing. But he told me
that story, and you know, took me there and it's

(19:28):
quite an experience. And I never thought that I would
experience one like that. But no, I don't live in
the area anymore. I'm in New Hampshire, someone had asked.
But no, I don't live there. But I was born
and raised in Gainesville, Texas. My mom my dad migrated

(19:50):
from Italy and it's like, welcome to America. You're in
the United States Army. And he was sent to a
German pow camp and called Camp camp Hood and my
mother was Native, and the reservation backed up to where
the German peel W Camp was, and my mom and

(20:13):
her friends would go look at the German men because
they were so beautiful, and she ended up meeting my
dad there at that peel W camp.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Wow, that's an in story. My goodness. That area you
were talking about, Like, is that around Thackerville.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yes, it's between Thackerville and the Texas Oklahoma border Red
River right there.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, a lot of.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Nothing that area today, or I would say in the
last ten years by bigfoot researchers. It's called purgatory because
the encounters that come out of that area with Bigfoot
are I would say, the most aggressive I've ever heard.
I've interviewed a few people from that area and it's

(21:02):
a very very sketchy area that I would not recommend
anyone just go in by themselves. It's pretty wild.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
I wouldn't go in those woods, I mean. And also
you had the goat Man that story that came from
that area. Actually that was more around White Rock Lake
and Fort Worth. But the goat Man was this creature
that was half man, half goat, and it was just
I don't know if it's true, but it was a

(21:34):
fable when I was a kid, and back then wrestling
was a big thing, and I remember we went to
wrestling match and this guy was his thing was he
was the goat Man. This was the time during like
Andre the Giant and I don't know if you've ever
heard of the van Erks the wrestlers, but anyway, the
goat goat man was going to fight in this thing.

(21:57):
And I remember sitting with my mom and dad, I'm like,
for you years old, and I was just terrified. I'm like,
is this man going to kill all of us? Or
is this goat man going to take us all out?
But he was a scary looking guy. He kind of
looked like what Howard Hughes looked. Have you ever seen
pictures of him before his death? He had the long
nails and the long hair. That's what the goat men

(22:20):
that I saw was the goat Man. And another place
is Maxdell Bridge outside of Colleen, Texas. It washed away
during the floods in July, but it was probably the
most and my hair stands up and my voice trembles

(22:41):
because it was a place that there was something definitely real.
I don't know what it was, but it was definitely
real and you could feel the dimensions. That's the only
way I know how to say it. But the Maxdell Bridge,
anyone knows it, you can look it up. It's not

(23:02):
about Bigfoot. It's more about ghost and hauntings.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
There's there's so many weird stories from Texas and southern Oklahoma.
But you had you had something about the goat Man Bridge.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
You were saying, yes, the the goat Man Bridge. Well
they called it the Goatman Bridge. But there's different places
that I've heard about it. But the one that we
went to was in outside of Killeen, Texas, and just
it was called Maxdelle Bridge and it is a bridge

(23:39):
that borders a cemetery and it's been closed off. You
can't you couldn't drive on the bridge. And my family
and I we went out there because we had heard
all these stories. And my son had told me a
story that I thought he was crazy. But there's a
story about a flying squirrel, but it wasn't spelt squirrel.

(24:02):
It was more like a squire. And that's just something
that my son saw and heard. I didn't, but he
was pretty terrified at that place and he's like, let's
go there. My old younger son was playing hockey in Austin,
so we'd drive by there, you know, drove one hundred
miles to take my son to hockey. And my son's like, well,

(24:26):
we need to go there. So we weren't there one
night after we got out of hockey practice, and it
was a scary night and definitely something there. I don't
know what, but something.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Goodness. Thank you for sharing some stories from your family
history as well. I appreciate that, Lisa. Is this second
conversation one I can use as well?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Sure, well you can use it well.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Thank you for coming up again. I am gonna check
in with I've got you know, when you know it,
we all of a sudden, we got a ton of
people and to come up and but I appreciate you
coming up again.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Thank you. Okay, I have a good one.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Lisa has some great stories. My goodness. Hey Wade, how
are you man?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Great?

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Great, it's good to be speaking with you again.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Absolutely. How are things out there?

Speaker 7 (25:20):
Oh? Well, you know, working too much as usual? You know,
that's that's normal. I have to tell you about the
museum I went to uh in Boring, Oregon. Okay, what
a great resource of information. It's hard to articulate what

(25:41):
a great thing, uh that that museum is. I got
there and nobody was there, and then it got really packed.
But what the information As you walk through they have
casts and photos and uh and look cations and the
stories of how they got the different casts in there.

(26:05):
And it was absolutely fascinating. And I went on a
motorcycle ride from Redmond, organ to Boring, which is a
fantastic ride. And the two men that were working in
there at the time were very decent people, very likable

(26:27):
and approachable, and I kind of made a small mistake.
I told him that we had him on the property
for four years in Oregon when I was very young.
And they were absolutely thrilled to speak to me about that.

(26:49):
And we didn't agree to speak again about it, you know,
and because they were busy and working at the time,
and I can appreciate that. And you go there and
they'll give you a pin and you put the pin
on it where you had your sighting. And I was
shocked at how many pins in the Pacific Northwest they

(27:11):
had on their map. And it's a map of the
entire United States, but it is absolutely stunning in some
spots you can't put a pin anymore in that area.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
No, absolutely, yeah, that just in case people have made
the connection. The North American Bigfoot Center is a really
cool place. I was able to go there in July.
It was awesome.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
It is absolutely awesome, and it's a place where you
can bring your whole family, because certainly I was the
only singular individual there. It was all families. Everybody was
smiling and thrilled, and it was great vibes.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Like I said, the.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Two men working in there were wonderful. I understand. It's
owned by Cliff. Forgive me, I don't remember his last.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Name, the Cliff.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
Then yep, thank you, thank you. And I was kind
of hoping to see him, and and they said no,
he you know, he gets here, you know, kind of sporadically.
And I said, well, as long as he gets there
on pay day, everything's kosher, right, And then of course
we had a good.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Laugh, right.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
And and it's right off the freeway. It's so there's
big signs on the highway, you know, uh, pretty easy
to find and what I thought it might in all fairness,
I kind of had to steal myself a little bit
when I wrote up there to think you know, I'm

(28:43):
almost sixty years old, and I'm not a gen z or.
I don't get like with all due respect, I don't
get like triggered, right.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I really don't have those.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
But I had to really steal myself before I walked
in there. And after a few minutes, I thought, you
know what, this is fantastic. And let me qualify that,
say that you have seen Bigfoot or a little bit,
or you have seen them a couple of times or whatever,

(29:15):
and you walk in there and you can and you
can educate yourself. I'm thinking, okay, I'm not an idiot.
That's exactly what I've seen. And it's okay to say, hey,
you know what, I seen one of these things and
it looks like this and there in this location is
where it was, and it's a It is a fantastic

(29:39):
tool for to walk in there and say, you know what,
I'm not crazy and it's okay, and this uh, and
you can educate yourself. Certainly. They have a profound amount
of information as you've seen when you walk in there,
and it's a lot to take in and so and

(30:04):
of course I bought my girl a T shirt. I
bring her back a T shirt you know, because you
know the old saying, Hey, bring me back a T shirt.
I splurged and bought one of the castings that they
have in a clear glass case right there. They had
a dozen, and of course it's not the original, and
I understand that the original is being studied. It's off

(30:28):
being looked at. And I didn't keep it because I've
seen it before. I'm okay with that. But and I
gave it to one of my peers who is very interested,
and I'm glad. I had a trunk on the back
of that BMW big enough for this cast. And it's

(30:51):
just a it's a very visceral thing to hold in
your hands. They put a little card in there before
they wrapped it saying this cast was cast in this
location on this date and it's a right foot but

(31:12):
it is an uncanny thing. Even as a gift. I
gave it to one of my friends that I respect
a lot, but it's still there was that moment standing
out in the parking lot holding this thing, even in
the bubble wrap was it was quite jarring and it's
a very visceral experience. So and at the end of

(31:35):
the day I went in there had a fantastic time,
lovely people, and I spent money there to help that
place continue.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's worth it. It is absolutely worth it to support them.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I got to ask you, was it hard being in
front of Murphy like that because.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
Of your his No, Murphy kind of looked like the
large female that I was in practice of seeing at
least maybe once a month, sometimes once every two months.
That was she was a little shorter than the male
and blockie, and that's what Murphy looked like. And but
she was she was no problem. She always the girl.

(32:23):
My sister's seen her more often than any of the
two younger ones or the large male. So but there
was a there was a moment of pause before I
stepped through that doorway past the countertop where I really
had to steal myself.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
The crazy thing about that area is that it is
so close to some really really high activity bigfoot locations,
you know.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
And that's exactly what they told me. For Betam and
any rational person, once you get past the UH reservation
and you start hit the tree line and start going
over mount Hood, you're like, okay, well yeah, that's absolutely
absolutely wow.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Uh it is.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
It's always a pleasure to talk to you, and I'm
glad that you're doing well. Is this a Is this
a conversation I can use for the show? If if I.

Speaker 7 (33:26):
I would be delighted.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Okay, okay, well thank you for coming up.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
Yeah, you're you're doing great on your your podcast, and uh,
I jump on whenever I can.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Always good to talk to you. We'll we'll connect in
the future as well. You have a good one, man, Absolutely,
you have a good evening. Bye bye, Hey Scott, how
are you, sir?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Hey man?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
What's the good word?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
What's the good word?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
So here's the deal. All right, here's what I know.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
So, uh, the fifty eight lifetime s Pacific Northwest Lifetime
Hunter never seen anything, never heard anything, brothers never seen anything,
really heard anything. But that was more down in the
lower Willhamotte Valley in Oregon, Okay. And so then I

(34:21):
him getting a job in nineteen ninety matter of fact,
in Stevenson, and that Stevenson is in Skimania County, Okay.
And I was in radio equipment, and I got to
know all these really not old but these old enforcement

(34:44):
deputies that worked for the county sheriff and and me,
you know, and they had all they were all twenty
twenty five year plus guys, you know, And if you
get to know these guys, they're very factual, meaning short
of if they don't see it, it didn't happen. If

(35:06):
they don't if it's not on film, it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
They're very literal, all of them.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
You know.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
And and you know, and in that group that they
were in, not me, but what they were in, you know,
And you never want to spout out something odd, you know,
like I saw UFOs, which they none of them believe.
That's another thing that they're very kind of what the
ones that I talked.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
To didn't believe in. But but.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
The one thing that they did say is this, and
it was very interesting. I have a few other stories
about the the big foot thing is they all have
the same the ones that I talk they all have
the same similar stories and never had a dead one.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Look.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
But they were driving along way up high in the
county it was called North County, and they would like
catch something they would catch so something like what like
something was like, hey, they saw us a flash and
it and it was never a confirmed thing, and that
was always what it was. And then even during that time,

(36:13):
I remember there were three Native Americans up in the
county next to uh Skiminia, which is I can't even
remember what it was. And they had said that that
they had trapped actually had trapped one in National and
I remember National gig Ray. It was a huge, big deal.
And then it turned out that it had been nothing.
But there are It's a weird thing up there in

(36:38):
Scamania County.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
It is.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know, the things I've heard out of Skamania County
are absolutely wild, because you gotta you know, people have
to realize if you don't know the area you're talking
about from down the Columbia River, you know, all the
way up to Mount Saint Helens and a little bit
north of it. It is just it's a crazy amount
of area.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
And it is huge. And that's one thing that people
don't realize is just how big it is. It's enormous.
But you know, and this is an odd, a different,
an odd story of how this item got here. In

(37:23):
nineteen ninety matter of fact, people were that was like
people were kind of into like extreme camping. You know,
you'd go out and camp for like two weeks, like
like fifteen miles and you know that that kind of
stuff well, I got to know some other guy and
he was like, hey, man, I went on this extreme camp,
you know, and I found something cool. You know. I'm like, well,

(37:46):
what is it?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
You know?

Speaker 6 (37:46):
And he had found and I mean way out in
the middle. We're like like fifty miles in the middle
of he found a true and I looked it up
with it stills the serial numbers, a true World War
One American dagger just stoved in the ground. The wood

(38:09):
handles had rotted away, and it was just sitting there.
And they were out there and uh, I mean, I
mean in the middle of nowhere. And he found that.
He was just stunned, It's like and so I'm like, well,
how on earth? So I got a hold of the

(38:29):
county guys and said, well, how is the military out there?
And Lyric heck, no, nothing's out there. And so I
actually then I sent some guys that military people that
knew like these serial numbers. And it was truly it
was a World War One US bayonet that someone had

(38:50):
stuck out there and and so and even better. Uh,
when I left in ninety two, my friend gave me
the bayonet and I I still have it, and I
still have it and so what I'm getting at too,
you don't know what's out there. I mean, I just

(39:14):
it's like you know and you just don't know. Man.
I'm just I know I'm rambling on, but uh, you know,
I've seen your show, and uh I we want always
kind of want to get on and tell you that
tell you what I knew.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
But I appreciate you doing so. I mean, there's so
many I mean, we've both we both heard the wild
stuff about this this area of the legends, and certain
areas are crazier than others in Skamania maybe, and it's
just it is a wild area. I appreciate you coming
up and sharing what you what you heard over the years.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
It does help.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
They're convinced there's something. You know, it's just not they
but they're they're they're just not a not They're just
not there's not enough proof for them to say, yeah,
we've seen it. But the funny thing is it was
there was multiple of them, of different kinds of guys too.
You know, you might have like the tough guy over there,
and you might have an athletic one, and they all

(40:14):
kind of have the same freaking in which we always
thought was odd. But uh, great show, dude. You got
a lot other people who want to get on and
but nice chatting with you.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Hey, yeah, is this a conversation I can use on
the show as well?

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Scott?

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Man, all right, sir, well thank you for coming up.
I appreciate it. All right, dude, talk to you. Good stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Man.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh, Scott's a good guy from up there. You can
tell Hey, say, Shasha, how are you?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I am nervous?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Oh you're good?

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (40:49):
Oh so I can't hear myself the first time I've
ever been live.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
On TikTok you go.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
So I'm from Long Is in New York, very flat,
surrounded by water. Nothing going on here, maybe the occasional
red Fox here and there. This is in twenty fifteen.
I has got a job offer to go to Washington
State to help build a restaurant with people that lived

(41:22):
in Washington State. In Aberdeen. Actually, and so we met
the husband and wife became very good friends, and they
were showing us around Washington all the time.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Great people.

Speaker 8 (41:38):
The wife of the restaurant owner, she's pretty pretty powerful woman.
So anyway, so she lives on Lake Quinault in Washington State.
So she's you know, I brought up the subject of
Bigfoot because I was always interested because I'm a child
of the seventies when Bogie Creek came out, and me

(42:01):
and my sisters were always like a little freaked out
by it, you know, and interested. So I had dropped
my husband off at Seattle Airport and she invited me
up to Quinna for dinner. And I had had her
adopted daughter with me, who was seven, and my daughter
who was eleven at the time, and we were driving

(42:24):
up Highway one on one. It was like five o'clock,
so I was just starting to go down a little
bit of lightly raining and it was, like I said,
Highway one on one. I don't know if you've been
on that road. It's very the logging road. It's you know,
I'm driving up there my New York plates, going really slow,

(42:44):
very intimidated. And I'm driving and I was actually on
the phone with my friend from New York, and I
was on the speakerphone with her, and the two kids
are in the back of my niece on Morano and
and I noticed something that.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Just didn't look looked out of place.

Speaker 8 (43:07):
With my peripheral vision on my right hand side.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I was like, what was that?

Speaker 8 (43:14):
It was like enormous and with and it was very
very you know, textured and reddish. So I took my
foot up the gas and I was gonna like dismiss
it because I thought I was just seeing something, you know,
but I saw like just in my windshield.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Like his torso.

Speaker 8 (43:39):
So I took my foot off the gas and I
was gonna dismiss it. And I looked in my rear
view mirror and my daughter's eyes were as big as
sauces and she said, gasped, She said, Mom, did you
see that?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
And I just wanted to. I guess she is just she.

Speaker 8 (44:01):
Must have sare like more than I did. So we
get up to Lake Quanaut, and of course my friend
is one hundred percent Native, and she did not dismiss it.
She said she has smelt it on the reservation. But
in Native American folklore they say never to turn around

(44:25):
or look at it, she said, but she has smelt it.
And she's like, well, I guess you're not going home tonight.
I'm like, no, I'm staying in your place now. And
at the time, my daughter, who's very chatty, just shut down.
She just just shut down. Would not talk about it.
So now the next day we go home and I

(44:46):
sat down quiet, quietly with her, and she told me,
on the left side, whatever I saw with my right
and my peripheral vision in my windshield, I just saw
it like it's torso.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Excuse me, she said.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
On the left hand side, there were two of them,
and she thought they were hunters at first, she says,
but it turned around and it looked at her, and
she said, mommy, I saw it soul like.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
That was the words of an eleven year old.

Speaker 8 (45:21):
Which was pretty let me get out, dogs barking, let
me go in here?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
So what else?

Speaker 8 (45:34):
So it was just, you know, I'm I'm a little nervous.
Told the story and it was like, you know, ten
years ago. But then you know, asking around and asking
conservationists men and talking to police. They were like, you're
not the first person to have an encounter here, you know,

(45:55):
and they appreciated the story. But I'm my life as
ever has changed since that that that creature exists.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Didn't I want to I want to clarify something. Sure,
so you said that your daughter said that she saw
it soul.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
That's what she said. It looked, she said it looked
at her.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
Now there was two on apparently on her side, which
was my driver's side.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I was looking to my right when I saw.

Speaker 8 (46:28):
That that that torso in the in my windshield. So
when I was looking briefly to the right, she was
looking left. So there must have been three of them.
Like maybe it was just a road crossing and it
hurt my car and it stopped. The third didn't craws

(46:51):
you know whatever. But she said, yeah, she said, it
turned its head and it looked right dead at her.
She said, and it's his eyes were just black. And
she said, and I saw it soul. That Those were
her words of an eleven year old. I saw it soul.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
That is such an interesting way to put it. I've
never had anyone say that, I would be it would
be really interesting. I don't know if you've ever asked
her what she meant by that statement.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
I think I think she almost had like a maybe
like almost like a telepathic encounter, because she she got
she had said she could look.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
At them, not like I did.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
I just got like I just got a periphial, you know,
textured something I was like because at first I thought
it was a telephone pole and I was like, that's.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Too thick, it's too broad, you know, And like I.

Speaker 8 (47:51):
Said, I was going to dismiss it until my daughter said.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Mom, did you see that?

Speaker 8 (47:57):
And I was like, oh, so I thought she was
seeing the one that I was looking at, But they
were on the opposite side of the road, the ones
that she saw. And she's twenty one years old right now.
And I always figured should come out one day and say, ma,
I was joking around, but she tells that story to everybody,

(48:19):
so do I for years and years. And it was
it was incredible, incredible, incredible.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
And it was highway. It was mile marker one fourteen.
I'll never forget that.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
She you know, the exact mile marker as well.

Speaker 8 (48:36):
Really awesome because as I drove away, I said, just
in case something happens, I need to know. My grandfather
always told me not look at your mile markers when
you're traveling.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yep, so.

Speaker 8 (48:49):
And I looked it up. I think it's humped Tulips.
I think that's the city.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Okay, how has this affected you since.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
Well, I'm the youngest of four kids, you know, I
have three older sisters. And they were like, I mean,
I think everybody believes me. I think, you know, they're like,
tell you a story, tell your story.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
It has affected me.

Speaker 8 (49:14):
I became a I've become a I mean every podcast
that's out there, every book, every story I read.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I was just like, it's fascinating. It's it's really fascinating.

Speaker 8 (49:27):
And like I said, I was always waiting for my
daughter to say, oh, it's just kidding around.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
But she told the teacher at school when she came.

Speaker 8 (49:34):
Back to New York because we moved back a year later,
and but she really couldn't speak for days, which is
like I said, my daughter is very gabby, and she
just could not.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
She shut down.

Speaker 8 (49:49):
She shut down for a while, like you know, I
guess she was felt a little shameful, I don't know,
or just maybe in shock.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
You know.

Speaker 8 (50:00):
That night she's like, we're not driving home mom. I'm like, no,
I'm not going to at home?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, I don't blame yet at all. What what? What
a fascinating encounter because both of you were able to
have a citing Yeah, it's it's very very unique. And
you know, I want to say thank you so much
for sharing what you experienced.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
We welcome.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Is this a conversation that that I can use on
my Bigfoot podcast that I have absolutely yes, okay, thank you,
thank you for that. Well, I appreciate you coming up now,
thank you. But what an account looks like? That area

(50:43):
she's talking about is about halfway between Quinnall and Aberdeen
and it is a very very small community, about two
hundred and thirty six individuals. Hey, Duel, how are you
hey good? How are you just having a good night
hanging out?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah? I always love hearing all the stories.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Same here.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I'm kind of one of those that I feel kind
of either blessed or cursed because I've had a couple
of encounters. I shared one with you, which was the
one where I actually had we actually had a visual
sighting my entire family in southeast Georgia. Yep, but actually
i've had in that same area. This is in Yeah,

(51:35):
it's near I won't say near, it's it's actually our
hunting property is in Kite, Georgia, which is just a
little bit north or yeah, northeast of Adrian, Georgia, which
is just off of by sixteen. We had the visual
sighting and this occurred, oh gosh, probably about four years ago.

(51:57):
Where my both my boys are you know, they're grown
that oh I say grown, they're twenty three and twenty eight.
But they were with me. We were down there at
our hunting property and one night goofing a round. We
had all been watching you know, the oh gosh, what
was the Bigfoot show? The one with oh gosh, like

(52:22):
driving bok Foot finding big Foot? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah yeah. And then when I say rule, there's probably tight.
Georgia probably has five hundred people in the in that
area as far as residents, Adrian probably you know, eighteen hundred.
So very very rural. I mean we hunt on three

(52:46):
different tracks of land that we have that are are
that we have a permission to that are seventy eight acres,
another one's seventy nine and the other one's over split
between two tracks exit back to back that are probably
right around two hundred acres. And we've had some unusual
things happen, but this this one occasion was probably the

(53:10):
weirdest thing we've ever had. As far as being out there,
We've always heard unusual alcols. You know, you hear the
bobcat screams, coyote yells and kind of get just you
just get used to it, but it sets you on edge.
But one night we were sitting on this little stoop
of this little an old house built back in the
fifties and kidding around. I was kidding with my oldest son,

(53:34):
and he's like, I'm going to do one of those
those whoops. I at first was kind of reluctant. I
was like, okay, yeah, okay, whatever, And he he did this,
I would say, more of a guttural whoop that was
just like better than anything I could have done. I mean,

(53:55):
I mimicked the guys from you know, from the Bigfoot show,
and we were getting around, but he did his and
from across and when I say across the road, the
house sits probably one hundred yards from the road. There's
a pond to the right, and then it's nothing but
woods behind us that flows all the way down to

(54:16):
a river. And we heard something start to crash through
the woods coming up towards us. And when I say crash,
I mean the intensity of what we heard, like limbs
breaking and almost like you could hear a bipedal motion

(54:38):
of stomping. Is it ran towards us. It literally came
up to the road, sits up on an embankment and
it sounded like you could hear it just land onto
the road side and it just had this piercing kind

(55:03):
of I don't know if screams the right word or yell,
but it just let out this horrendous yell or it
was not a whoop, It was more of a screen.
And the three of us froze kind of sitting there wondering, okay,

(55:24):
whether we just call up, and the entire evening it
felt like we were being just surrounded. I mean like
you could hear movement on two different sides of the house.
Of course, we couldn't hear anything behind us because we're
sitting on the front stoop of this little bitty home,
but you could hear movement going through and how the

(55:47):
best way to describe this property is of course in
South Georgia, so it's nothing but tall timber and tall pines.
It's not the butt pine trees that was just literally
devastated this past year by Hurricane Milton and Helene. But
you could hear it come up between us and the pond,

(56:09):
and we kept hearing I wouldn't say it sounded more
like a grunt, but you could hear movement coming up
each side of us and to the left facing the road.
To the left is an old creek bed that in
part of that area of the front yard goes down

(56:32):
into almost like a marsh, but it's a very small marshland,
and you could hear something moving around it coming up
to the left where we could constantly hear something moving
through the scrub brush between us and the pond, coming
up to the right. And of course my oldest son,
he's kind of the wild child, and my youngest is

(56:55):
going shut up, quit stop, and he would kind of,
I don't want to say, antagonize it, but tended to
antagonize or let out another whoop, and you would hear
more rustling. Now, at first I thought, okay, this is
I tried to explain it off coyotes because we have

(57:15):
tons of coyotes down there, bobcats. You know, it's it's
South's rural Georgia, so you've got plenty of coyote and bobcats. Anyway,
So sorry, I'm getting nervous. I'm getting a little nervous
talking about it. But it was it was such an
unusual encounter that that's the first time I literally because
having my two sons with me, I got up, grabbed

(57:40):
my shotgun, walked off the porch because we have no
ambient light outside of the house, and walked towards way
or I heard something moving into the There's a large
area that has blueberry bush, blueberry bushes and large scrub
rush that goes down towards the pond. I walked straight

(58:04):
towards it with my shotgun pumped at once and just
said that's enough. If somebody's here at make yourself known.
And it went dead silent. I mean to the point
literally it was like early just no movement, nothing moved,
nothing was heard. But it was that was you know.

(58:28):
I only decided to tell this one story because of
the encounter we had gosh, fifteen years earlier, probably forty
miles south of there, which is where we saw the
road growth crossing.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Right right exactly. Oh my goodness, man, I'm trying to
put myself in this situation.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
But yeah, I mean, you.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Had your kids there, You're on a high alert, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's I've had we've had
some a couple of different we've hunted the same property.
I've been hunting it since I was I'm fifty five.
I started hunting there when I got out of the
Air Force in the early nineties. We've had some strange encounters,
me and my buddy, whose family owns the property. He

(59:23):
no longer hunts there, but we have permission to continue hunting.
But we've had several in strange encounters that have just
really piqued my curiosity of what is you know, what's
in that area? Is it? And we've we've had years

(59:45):
where there's been nothing, and then we've had two or
three years in a row where we've had such unusual encounters.
Like one one time, which would have been oh gosh,
this would have been in the mid nineties. I had
I had killed a dough cleaned it, drug off the

(01:00:07):
remainder of the carcass, carried it down into some scrub brush.
And this is probably from the house that I'm describing
from the first encounter is probably half a mile through
the woods, but a mile mile and a half on roadway.
We had left that evening, went into town, went and

(01:00:29):
had dinner, came back and it was me and my buddy,
who of course had whose family that owns all of
this land. You know, we were pulling back up when
we were in my jeep and another friend of ours
is in the back seat and he's he's like turned
down the music and I was like, I don't have
the stereo on. And as we pulled into the the

(01:00:52):
Soul this is an old old This house was built
over one hundred something years ago. It's now been torn down.
This is the primary area that we currently hunt. We
pulled up and we could hear we heard this chattering,
like almost unusual noises, Like I won't say unusual noise,

(01:01:14):
it just sounded like chattering. And when I got out
of the jeep and we went to kind of go
around the house, I pulled out my flashlight, I had
my gun. We immediately go around and we hear this
literally a blood curdling screen, and we hear something just
tear off down towards the pond that is on this property,

(01:01:37):
and you could hear it crashing through the woods running.
We basically wound up just curling back up towards the
house and trying to calm all of our nerves and
didn't hear anything else. The next morning we go over
to where I had drug the carcass into the woods,

(01:01:58):
which was just this eletal remains in the the ENTERDS
of the deer and they were strewn and part of
the deer was completely removed and gone. So anyway, don't know,

(01:02:18):
and I mean bobcats. Bobcats are pretty, you know, agile
and able to do a lot, but I've never seen
them carry off that much of a carcass that quickly,
not in one evening.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
There is some man, you have to experience some some
weird stuff down in Georgia. That's that's for sure. Joel,
my goodness, thank you for sharing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
That my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Yeah, no, is this a is this a conversation I
could also put on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
All right, awesome, awesome, Well, thank you for coming up again.
Of course, thank you for supporting as well. I appreciate that.
That means a lot. Absolutely appreciate you. Appreciate all you do.
All right, you have a good one shirt you too. Hello, Bob, Hello,
how were you, sir?

Speaker 9 (01:03:18):
I'm fine. I was going to tell you I talked
to you several nights ago. But I remember back when
I was eleven years old, I was duck hunting with

(01:03:39):
my father and his best friend in spring wool Bottom, Tennessee,
and they were getting ready to put the boat into
the water, and I was just wandering around and I
looked with my flashlight and I found a track that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Had like four or five toes.

Speaker 9 (01:04:06):
It's been so long, I can't remember exactly how many.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
And this was in like.

Speaker 9 (01:04:16):
The middle of January, and so there were spots of
snow around and I looked and I saw this track.
I called my dad. He came over and we looked
at it, and then just a couple of minutes later,

(01:04:38):
we heard the most hideous scream out of the woods
a little ways from us. And the best I can
describe the scream was it was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
All like something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Something that iron.

Speaker 9 (01:05:01):
But it screamed for like thirty seconds and then it
went silent, and we just stood there looking at each other,
and then we got in our boat and went duck hunting.
But I got to thinking, after I talked to you

(01:05:21):
the other day, that there's been two or three times
when I'd be deer hunting out in the woods and
I would have the same smell filled my nostrils, and

(01:05:42):
I would look and I would hunt for the source
of the smell, and I could never find it. But
it seemed like I was right on top of it,
but I never did pinpoint where it was at and
after a few minutes it would seem market would just
dissipate and go away.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Hum.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
And you said this is in Tennessee, Bob, Yes, wes Tennessee.
That's rights nasty. Some some really really interesting stories. Thank
you for coming up again and for sharing, uh some
more things you've experienced over the years. Sure do you

(01:06:34):
mind if I use this conversation on the show, Bob
of course? All right, Well, thank you for coming up, sir,
No problem, Hey, Barb, how's it going.

Speaker 10 (01:06:52):
Good? How's it going with you? Way northern Wisconsin, driving
home one night around two am, in the middle of nowhere, nowhere,
no homes, no nothing, just a deep, dark back road.

(01:07:18):
And yeah, there was something on the side of the road.
And I think I may have sent you something about this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
It was.

Speaker 10 (01:07:33):
Very big, very hairy, two am, and it was wearing
a flannel shirt and blue jeans. Yep, yep, yeah, oh yeah,
like me out. Oh yeah it was it was really.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:07:58):
I didn't slow down, didn't stop, but there was hair everywhere,
I mean, the face, the hands. But blue jeans and
a flannel shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
What.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
It's a thing where you don't hear about it a lot.
But there is a there's a book called Where the
Footprints And which is a good collection of like really
weird bigfoot stuff and kind of maybe even paranormal stuff.
And there's a whole section about sightings where there's ben
encounters and they seem to be wearing some sort of

(01:08:43):
clothing like that is very strange.

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
Right right. And the face I'm saying behind you was
the face I saw. I mean there was hair everywhere
from the hands to the head. Yeah, it was really bizarre.
And I'm the one that did see monkeys on the

(01:09:06):
road too. And listen, I'm sixty five years old. I've
lived in this area for forty years, and I'm I
was a dental assistant, you know, I'm I'm somewhat normal.
I guess, I don't know, but yeah, so I've seen

(01:09:31):
I've seen some interesting things up here. I'm right now
at my grandparents' cabin way far more in the middle
of nowhere. And my sister spent the last night here
and she said that she was looking out towards the

(01:09:55):
west and she heard some thing that she'd never heard before,
and there were two deer chasing it. She saw something
that was like, Oh, I don't know, if you can see,
my hair is kind of brown, but the hair color

(01:10:19):
on whatever it was the deer were chasing was darker
than my hair. And yeah, I don't know. I mean
it was something the deer were chasing. Couldn't be a
wolf or a coyote. I mean, I don't know what
the hell it was. But yeah, there's there's some weird

(01:10:42):
stuff that goes on in the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Absolutely, you know, Wisconsin really does have a lot of
weird stuff, especially up in the north. That area, like
where you had the sighting of the one that was
wearing clothing? Was that Are you you able to share
the area that that was that sighting was in or

(01:11:05):
is that we can keep that? Oh not public as well?
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:11:13):
It was in let's see, Washburn County, Wisconsin, and it
was on I don't want to say the road, you know,
I don't want a lot of people go on there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
You got to yeah, no, nope, that's okay, Washburn And
what was approximate year on that again.

Speaker 10 (01:11:38):
Two thousand and thirteen, I want to say, gotcha right, yep.
And like I say, there may be a game farm
around here, because I had a peacock on my deck.

(01:11:58):
And I've seen monkeys on the roads. So if you
look that up you can kind of see, you know,
who is in that area.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
You looking it up. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, there are
a few Safari parks up there too. I'm noticing right right.

Speaker 10 (01:12:34):
And you know, it may, like I say, it may
have been something that escaped. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:12:39):
I have no idea.

Speaker 10 (01:12:41):
And what the being was that I saw on the
road at two am. It freaked me out. There's no
way I was going to stop. I wasn't going to stop.
And you know, see, do you want to help? Because
there was no homes, No, there was nothing around.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
It's some wild stuff. It might help explain the monkeys
you saw, but it does not explain what you saw
wearing clothing for sure. I mean that's just something completely different,
right but my goodness.

Speaker 10 (01:13:20):
Yeah, and I don't drink or do drugs, you know,
so I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Not true right right right there you go. Yeah, Wisconsin's
got some some weird stuff. Well, it was good talking
to you. Thank you for coming up and for sharing that.
I do remember the email you sent me now.

Speaker 10 (01:13:38):
Oh yeah, yep, yep, all right, take.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Care is this a conversation I can use for the
show as well. Barb of course, of course, all right,
thank you, thank you so much. You bet take care,
good stuff. Wisconsin is weird. He see how's it going?

Speaker 11 (01:14:01):
Oh hey, I don't even know it was on Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
So yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:14:07):
I told my story on here before about driving and
seeing a bigfoot run across the road. And I mean,
it's the only thing you could describe it as is
a big foot. I've seen bears all my life, mountain lions.
I grew up in Bluemouth's National Forest and also off

(01:14:27):
Good up in there, and it's part of the Sierra Mountains.
But and then years and years later, me and my
brother not too long ago, had an encounter. We didn't
get to see it, but we heard it in the snow.
It was about like two feet of snow and I

(01:14:48):
was doing like some whooping noises and it was making
some weird I can't even repeat what it was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
It was.

Speaker 11 (01:15:00):
It is really deep and almost like I was trying
to talk, and my brother was getting nervously scared, but
he just wanted to run up the road a little
bit with his dog. And then that's when I heard it.
Just it sounded like an elephant stomping through the snow
up the hill towards me. So I started yelling for

(01:15:21):
my brother and he starts flying back down to the
car and he's like, let's go, let's go. I'm not
doing this no more. Let's go, and then we left.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
But I have.

Speaker 11 (01:15:32):
A couple questions for you. What got you into this?
Did you see one? I'm just really curious.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Oh yeah, I can talk about that for a minute.
So really what I watched a lot of old shows
with my dad growing up about Bigfoot and unsolved mysteries
and stuff. And then during well right before twenty twenty,

(01:16:01):
I was like, hey, I should start a podcast, and
then it was the right time to start it, and
then about two years ago I made it focused primarily
on talking to people about Bigfoot. It just kind of
really escalated from there because I realized there's a lot
of people that really just need to share what they've experienced,
and not a lot of people are willing to listen.

(01:16:24):
So that's really what it turned into. And it's it's
been a really wild ride so far.

Speaker 11 (01:16:32):
So have you ever went out looking for one?

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Yeah, a few times I have.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I go to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
A place in Iowa, where I'm from, and it's pretty active.
We've heard wood knocks and whoops and got trees got
pushed over. There's been a few sightings in the area,
and I went to vent to a place in Oregon

(01:17:05):
a few times and we got roared and screamed out
out there. It's pretty wild. I haven't had a visual yet,
but uh, but it's just uh, I've had a lot
of really other weird things happen so far. Sony.

Speaker 11 (01:17:21):
When you do get a sighting and it's going to
shake you down to your.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Gore, man, yeah, I'm trying to get ready for it,
you know. So it's kind of if you can get
prepared for it. But sometimes you don't even get that.
That a luxury, you know, like you.

Speaker 11 (01:17:35):
Don't even know how it's really going to react to
you if it's close to note, you know what I mean.
That's the scary part.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
You don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:17:45):
The way it moved across the road wasn't like a human.
It was more like a wild animal or right the
way a gear moves across like just float. The way
it just flowed across the road like so natural and
so fast, but it was so big.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
It's just it was, we're just thing I've ever seen it?

Speaker 11 (01:18:08):
Yeah, I watched the Bob Gibblan film and stuff like
that when I was a kid, and I was always
interested in it, and it was like hoping it was
out there, but I didn't really think it was going
to be out there. But man, it scared the crap
at me when I seen it. And I do have
the video footage on YouTube right after we've seen it,

(01:18:29):
the reaction of the kid screaming like we've seen it too.
I got out of the car. I was trying to
look for prints, but it was like the ground was
so solid that you couldn't really see too much. But
I found one spot that I mean, if you pause
it there and just look at it, you can see

(01:18:51):
the out line of a huge foot and the tree
that it ran past. I thought it was small, smaller, bigot,
you know. But the tree that it went past. I
went up to that tree, it was like twelve feet hyphan,
so that thing had it been like ten feet.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Or no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Absolutely, Wow, some wild stuff, dude, Jesse. I appreciate you
coming up. Thanks for asking me a few questions. It's
good talking to you, Matt. You do all right, Bette,
It's tough. Thank you for listening to this episode of
The Big Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us

(01:19:32):
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