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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've
got the privilege of talking to JD today. JD's a
listener of the show and sasquatch enthusiasts from Oregon. We
got connected and he's got some interesting things to share.
(00:43):
Sounds like over there on the coastal side of Oregon.
So welcome to the show, JD. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm great, Jeremiah, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Absolutely it sounds like we are headed to a new
part of the state that I don't think has come
up on the show before. I'm looking at I have
a sightings map that is on Bigfoot Society podcast dot com,
so listeners can follow along with that. And I don't
see any marks in that area yet, So can you
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tell us a little bit about that area that we're
headed to today.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, the area I was speaking of is in the
northern area of the Oregon Coast. It's south of Cannon
Beach and south of Seaside, which are large tourist attractions
to the area, and it really isn't. It's an unincorporated
area and it's at least it used to be. I
haven't been there in years, but it's just some of
the most beautiful and remote feeling coastline of the Oregon
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Coast I've ever been to. I grew up in the
central Orgon Coast and just east of the actual beach
in the logging community where you know, I would play
in the woods, you know, group camping, and it was
very familiar with being outdoors. Was never hunter, was never
that you know, robust for viral perhaps that loved you know,
(02:06):
being outside and being in nature. And that area of
the beach is beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. Anyway. I discovered
archcapes there. It's a very sparsely list at the time
a very sparsely populated area with a few you know,
bungalows or cabins and maybe some luxury houses. I think
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there's a resort there, but other than that, it's pretty
much You've got Highway one O one the coastline, and
then you have essentially forest that goes into the Cascade Range.
So it feels, you know, very much organ very like
wild and green and lovely and serene. Usually. Anyway, as
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I said, as I got older, I have rediscovered camping
idle when my my interest in the big Foot phenomena
was kind of reignited growing up. I mean, I remember
I'm at the age I remember seeing Andre the Giants
box going man and of course Lendard Nemo, you know,
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in search of like in the Boggy Creek, blah blah
blah all that. But again kind of remained enthusiastic but
very skeptical about it. Yet there's always a part of
my head that I thought, oh, wouldn't that be fun?
My brother and I when we were very we both
you know, funny and stuff, and it was, you know,
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pretty innocent, all right. So fast forward mid thirties, I
got read, like I said, red into camping and the outdoors,
and I found Archcakes as little kind of a period remote,
very close to churiosy stuff. So if you needed you know,
a store or you know, medicine or something, things were accessible.
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And I believe the area I'm speaking of specifically is Arcadia,
feat between Arcadia and hug Point, which beginner south of
Kenney Beach. And I was there just kind of scouting
out areas to go, and the first time I went down,
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I think it's Arcadia. I believe that's correct. You pull
into the parking lot and it's just kind of, you know,
your average beautiful beachline. It's flat, it's a very short
distance between the parking lot and the beach itself, and
it's honestly just kind of like any beach line. But
if you hike north or south, maybe a quarter of
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a mile through these little capes, and in these capes
the tides out there are these little spots that are
just kind of hidden gems, particularly the one south, and
I remember thinking, oh, I want, I want to come
down here with you know, somebody in vacation to be
really fun. Leading into the incident and booked. There's a
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little bungalow right up I will not on the beach
in our scape that I booked I think four or
five days at and I brought a friend down and
we got there and it was lovely. We went I
showed him the beaches and you know, we're having some fun.
Let's see the first the first incident is we went down.
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I said, oh, there's a secret spot. But when the
tide is out, you can get around this cape and
there's this little cove. And I think that cove is
just I believe it's just north of what is known
as had Point. I'm not positive about that, but I
believe that to be correct. And we had down there
and ironically it did not feel this. It's like this
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little kind of like nook where the in the tie out.
It's just these these cliffs that are moffed and there's
you know, the rocky formage adorning the coast. It just
feels extremely remote, extremely serene, and very much cut off
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from civilization. You can't hit the highway, there are no
telephone lines. It just feels very remote, even though it's
really not in proximity that far away from stuff. Anyway,
we went down and there were all these rock formations,
all these piles of rocks piled up, some of them big,
and it didn't seem I mean, I wasn't thinking anything
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you know, odd about it. It's funny because there were
no footprints. Again, when the tides up high, you can't
really access that tape, but when it's blow you can.
And usually you see, like I would assume when I
first saw footprints or you know, dog prints or you
know something, there was nothing there except these rock probations
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and huge divots in the sand that did not look
like footprints. And I'm not saying they were, but these
big and soft sand kind of divots, and it seemed odd.
But my friend and I sat there and was cool.
Sandwich not you know, nothing to really built, I believe.
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The next evening the bungalow were staying. It was not
on the beach itself, that was maybe a five minute
walk down to it. We went down. We had a bonfire.
It's very you know, just a small point bonfire and
just kind of we're enjoying the coastline and we were
drinking some wine and my friend went back to the
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bungalow and I wanted to stay and I actually fell asleep.
Now the odd point of this is that. I don't
think I was asleep very long, and it wasn't like
a deep sleep. It was like I just can knot
it off. And it was somebody who was bipedal I
assume was a human, came jogging past me extremely fast
and woke me up. I was not dead asleep, but
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I was just kind of you know, when you're not off,
like on the bus or on the airplane or something.
And I was overwhelmed by her. Embarrassed I was because
I looked like a hobo on your you know, hop
ground and stick on the beach. But then I thought
it was night out at that point, But who's jogging
on the beach and I didn't. I just had a
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glimpse of just something dark and it was just zoomed,
I mean just zoomed past me. And again, this is
in soft sand, it's not wet sand. This is where
there's a bit of an embankment where I was able
to kind of, you know, build a small fire and
kind of posey up against it, so to speak. So
I mean it didn't Again, it didn't seem that weird
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in that moment. I was just embarrassed because I thought, oh,
put the fire out, you know, behave and you know,
go to bed. That was my thought at the moment. Okay,
So the next day, this is the incident that really
has stricken me over the years, is I woke up
and my friend, who at the time we're not friends anymore,
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but at the time I know was using a lot
of marijuana and alcohol, was very intoxicated when I woke up,
and I was very irritated to I thought, I just
want to get some copy, I want to go for
a jog or do something. And they wanted to down
to the beach, so I drove us up to again.
I believe it's Arcadia. I think that's the parking place
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that we found that the beach entry point, and we
went in and we hiked versus south where you would
find the little nook that I spoke of earlier. If
you went north, there's another case. It's much less obtrusive
and access at any time. But what you kind of
cross that. And the reason I say that is the
main beach itself can be very populated for families go
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you know, there's a lot of activity, but the kids
if you head northern south and again we're talking maybe
maybe a quarter of a mile, not a huge walk,
but it's much more remote. And my friend was driving
me nuts and wanted to go play down, you know,
wait in the water and goof around, and I said, go.
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I brought a book and a beattell I mean, set
up here by the tree line, by the green read
and just like be away from your drunk and read
and just kind of like chill out. So I sat
there and was reading, and at some point, and it
had been maybe thirty forty minutes, my entire body was stricken.
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I'm a hairy guy, and I swear every hear in
my body stood on it. And I can't very hard
to articulate, but I have was so stricken with this
intense fear I've never felt my life and something or
somehow or you know, a hallucina of my own. I
don't know studying my brain. Things here will hurt you,
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I will hurt you. You must leave, you must leave now.
And I it wasn't words. I don't know exactly how
to again explain it, but it was just the most
fearful moment I think I've had in my entire life.
And I looked up into the greenery, which is you know,
two feet in front of me. I didn't see anything,
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I did not smell anything. There was no movement that
I was able to detect. I was being watched or
greed upon her something. It was just terribly, terribly overwhelming
feeling a fair And then I'm talking of that right now,
and I thought that, and I started to gather again
that sense safe in my head was like you must
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leave right now, get out, go right now, go right now.
It wasn't words, but it was a very powerful sensation.
And so I kind of gathered my book. I didn't
have anything with me but know, a butt storage, my
cowel and the book, and it went down to get
my you know, my grouped up friend and we kind
of stirred off the beach and once we got back
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to the public area again a little bit south of there,
it was like a button switched and all that anxiety
completely shut off. I've never felt the way in my life.
I have a bungee jumps, died given a few times,
a few times. You know, I can't buy myself. I've
been in the woods, like I have. I had moments
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where I'm like, oh that's a little freaky or exciting,
but this was different. This was like terrifying, and I
really again though I didn't think anything about Bigfoot at
that Oh maybe it's a cougar or maybe there's a
black bear, you know something, you know, some of the
indigenous that is causing it. Except it was just it
(12:53):
was still win my brain. Anyway, moving on, So this
is the three things that personally involving. I lived in Portland, Oregon,
and at the time I was bartending at a neighborhood bar.
And maybe a month later, what in my regularly who
I saw several times a week came in and he's
(13:15):
a contractor and does remodeling, and I think he's specialty
is tile work. I will not mention this name, but
we had just opened the bar up and he was
a little early, and the king he said, hey, maybe
tonight I could grab a quick beer. I just I'm
just posted. And I had a really weird time there
(13:36):
and I said, yeah, of course, And I said, are
you you know what's going on? Man? It'd be cool
And he said, well I did that. That's a weird experience.
My brother bought this bungalow, just this place called Archk
and I was there giving some drywall and some tile work,
and I only had, you know, the night either, so
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I had fans light set up so I could kind
of finish the work, and he said, I don't know that.
He I thought, the weird kids. But somebody whistled at me.
And then somebody threw one of my fans, big industrial fans,
off to the site, and then her kept turning my
lights in a different direction, and I'm like, well, what
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do you mean were their kids there? He said, well,
I don't know. I went out. I was pissed off
and I went out to given peace of my mind,
but there was no one there, and they came in
and said everything back, and then the lights got moved again,
and he said, I think of some pard of my
word asking ghosts down there, you know, and was and
this is like a blue collar, very non woo woo guy.
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And it's funny because I thought I didn't associate it. First.
I thought, well, I said, you know, don't enjoy your view,
don't sweat it. I'm sure it's nothing, and I thought,
then I started thinking about getting scared off the beach,
and then there's other incident and I got it while
at the time I was also watching online. There wasn't.
(15:06):
This is back again in the year is probably two
thousand and six, two thousand and seven. That area. I
was following the BFRO and organ Bigfit Society online and
it was more for entertainment in all honesty, but I
don't it was one of those two. I believe that
we're doing a private investigation in that area around the
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same time. It wasn't when I was there, but it
was within a few months, and I thought, did I
have a big Foot encounter? Because it certainly, I mean,
there's a lot of me that seemed like a lot
of coincidences that fell into that realm or that dynamic
rather of that period of time. So I really didn't
(15:51):
think too much of it. One of my moving on
still camping, One of my favorite camping spots is an
area and the difforit pen Show Forest to set for
Washugl in the Washington side of the Columbia by the
I believe it's the Lewis River and outside of the
small town of ya Coult, Washington, And nothing happened there.
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It's happening there, but beautiful and very remote. But then
I started listening to that point in time, the Sasquatch chronicles,
and I believe that the webmaster of that west I
think it was seen as brother had incident and it
was right in that vicinity. And then upon frigg of research,
I found that you cult actually is Native American for
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evil spirit of the forest. And so all these things
kind of made me freak out about because I used
to can't buy myself a lot and do all this stuff.
It's just all these things, so thinking is this around
me all the time, and I just haven't really been
privy to it or not, you know, astude enough to
be alerted to it. Anyway, moving on, as work became
(17:03):
more intense by bluster camping and all that kind of
diminished in any time, but I did when were venture
down to Archcape only because it's such it really is beautiful.
Different friend brought down and said, oh, you've got to
see this beach. Unfortunately, we got to the coast, the
weather it wasn't very nice, which is often if not,
and I got out of the car and we started
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to go down to that again. It was I believe
it's Arkadie at that beach area, and I just thought,
I don't want to be here. It was something about
that experience I had the time before that completely freaked
me out to go back again, and I will probably
never be back again. AnyWho, those are my accounts.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's some extremely interesting stuff, JD. I mean, I've, as
I said before, nothing has ever come up from that area.
But just if you conbine everything together, there's some weird stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Well exactly, that's the thing is, honestly, Jeremiah. It was
listening to your podcast and there's a few other select others.
I like, just let people speak and their experiences because
mine was not visual. Again, I didn't see anything. I
didn't smell anything. There were some things that seemed a
little you know, like the divots in the sand by
the stack rocks, but I mean that could be anything.
(18:21):
It's loose band. They were not They did not look
like footprints, but they were big whatever they were. But
again I didn't think, I mean as an enthusiast, I
didn't think fit fit at all. I just thought, I
don't know, I didn't think anything.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I guess did your contractor friend, what did they describe?
What kind of whistle it was?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
They said it sounded like some I think he thought
it was some teenagers with him. Part of my friend Chigan.
You know, I think, I don't think he's not this
is this is a very blue collar gentleman who not
you know, prone to fantastic, you know, wu supernatural stuff,
I would think, but the humans shook up. It was very,
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very strict and it was amusing to me. And I
did not mention to him my experience because I thought, well,
he will just think I'm goofy as well, and I
don't want to make him feel more awkward, you know,
as a bartender. But it was just it only stuck
in my head because at that well, I had some
weird experiences there and it was I don't know exactly
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where his brother's house was for the bungalow was, but
it sounds like it's right in that same arch. Take
is not. It's lugging in a not really a town.
It's just an area, and it's really forced it, you know,
especially he was to what I understand that bungalow was
on the side of one oh one, So that was
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the poor the written southes or developments in that region.
And then again you go right back into the cascade.
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
What year was this again that your year things happened.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, it's been a while, but I believe it between
I think it's two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Okay, gotcha. Did you ever do any research to see
if other people on the internet anywhere had had experiences
close to this area. I know you kind of mentioned
the bfro or the well it was.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I didn't because I didn't associate it being bigfoot necessarily.
It was just odd. I thought, maybe, you know, the
when I got scared off the beach, I thought it
was a bear. It was a cougar. But again, there
was just something different about it because it was in
my brain. It was like something was speaking to my brain.
I don't know how else to say it. And it
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was terrifying. I mean, it was really I mean when
I again, I don't remember if I believe it was
one of those two sites. We're doing an investigation of
private in that area. I don't reach it sense they
don't think they've had anywhere aboards in that area a
big fitting to my knowledge, but I do know that
the Coastal Range has had accounts. And again, growing up
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in the coast, even though I grew up in the
Central Coast, which is much south of there. You know,
you wouldn't talk about things like that. You know, my
father didn't hunt. A family didn't hunt, eat fished a lot,
and we, like I said, you know, kind of grew
up playing in the woods, but you didn't talk about them.
I mean, everyone was aware of it. It was the coast,
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it was you know, the seventies eighties when I grew
up there. It was very apparent in lore, but no
one discussed it. I mean that was just you look
like an idiot if you did. And you know, thus,
I get my reluctance to even comment on some of
these moments because they could easily explained away individually, but collectively,
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I feel like, I don't know, there's something that just
in my gut feels like I think there's something that
was something going on at that moment. And if you've
been there at all, if you've been to that area,
it is at least at the time, it is gorgeous,
but it is very remote. Even though you're close to
some small town. Choice attracts and generally speaking, it's quite wild,
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you know, and there's it's I don't know, it just
kind of I feel like. Also, there was a report
I read from. I think it was in Gearhart, which
is just south of the Washington border, and probably maybe
twenty miles north of that area I'm speaking of where
I feel like on I think it was the DFRO
not Positive, where there was somebody out and they saw
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somebody looking like they were taking it for clams, but
they were extremely tall. There were some tourists that was
just walking the beach at night and when they in
the again, the thing didn't run, but walked past them
and they realized it was huge. So anyway, that's all
I got here.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Mayah, Yeah, it's it's it's interesting stuff and it helps
kind of look into an area that we haven't before.
So I say thank you so much. When you went
back to your your home, did anything weird happen after that?
You feel like you may have had stuff happen at Homeland. Yeah,
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after you left from ARCHK.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
No, I mean not, No, I don't. I don't believe.
So again, when I sort of listened to I kind
of went on the we'll call the Sasquatch bypass where
I just didn't I just wasn't interested in hearing about
that stuff. For a while, I got busy with work
and focused on other things. And more recently, I had
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an injury where I had to end a job and
I've been at home work and I staid listening to
your podcast and a few others, and all those memories
that came back very very strong, and they were in
my dreams a lot, and it was very frightening in
the dream. I mean, it was just a re iteration
visually or you know, dream like as of what had happened,
which again I didn't really pay a lot of credits
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to at the time, and tuckled it off because that, oh,
it wasn't that funny. That sounds kind of big pooty.
And then just as of late, I'm like, I think
that was actually something. I think something was going on.
I don't know what it was. Also, this is one
thing I forgot this is I put this in an
even lower category of relevance. But perhaps you know of
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interest is before I fell asleep at the campfire where
I heard some with somebody jog right in front of me,
my friend and I earlier there were all these lights
along the coastline. Now I assume it was some kind
of maybe like naval defense or some kind of like
air plane maneuver thing, but they were doing all these
(24:57):
weird triangular things. And oh, I don't know. I'm not
a UFO fanatic at all, but I did think it
was a little odd. But then again, I think that
let's see where we're saying. If you go to Astoria,
which is again not quite on the coast, but in
the day of the Columbia, which is in north of
where I think there's an army base up there, where
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there was an individual doing a routine that I think
he saw three individual squatches about. So I mean, like,
I don't all these things seem so unrelated, but when
I speak of them together in my head at least,
it's like there seems to be something somewhat tohesient about it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Absolutely, it is, just it's one of those things where
it's just enough to make you think, like, wow, I
bet other people have definitely experienced stuff in the same area.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well that's my thought. And you know, again, grown up
the coast, you know, most people that have lived there,
at least when I grew up, were you know, falty.
But we didn't talk about stuff that was weird. You know,
if there was like eachus in the household or economical
troubles or things. It generally was not discussed. We didn't
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make that public and so anything remotely esoteric for you know,
pertaining to anything supernatural slash payer normal, I'm you know,
would only be scoffed at at best. But I don't know.
I just I liked your podcast and I thought I'll
throw this in and if it sticks cool. If not,
I mean, it's no worry because it's nothing of great substance.
(26:35):
But these are things that happened, you know, And I
don't know, I'll just again, I'll leave it at.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
That, absolutely, and I think you definitely hit on something
really important there that The way I look at it
is it's one it's helping you share what you've experienced,
but also it's making sure there's a documented record of
whatever happened in a certain area, which could in turn
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help other people too that you know, maybe have never
seen arch cape come up on a Bigfoot show. So
that's why, you know, I am more than happy to
talk to two people when they approach about really anywhere.
But j D, I want to say thank you so
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much for coming on the show, for sharing what you experienced.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh just yeah, everything, And I again that commentary is
what kind of is what kind of tipped the kettle
in my brain a bit because I thought, Okay, it's
not just me, because I thought, you know, oh, I'm
just being kooky and just you know, being you know,
writing things together that probably were just stupid. But then
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with an outside opinion, and then also with that you
know whoever was doing again I don't recall exact I
think was row, I'm not positive we're doing an investigation there.
That's when I was like, oh, this might this might
be well.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Jadie, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Please keep us in mind. If you do happen to
hear anything else about the area and the future, feel
free to reach reach out. And thank you so much
for chatting today.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yes, Jeremiah, you have a wonderful day. Good luck with everything.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
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