BiggerPockets Money Podcast

BiggerPockets Money Podcast

For those who have money… or want more of it! Join Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench (from BiggerPocketsMoney.com) weekly for the BiggerPockets Money Podcast. Each week, financial experts Mindy and Scott interview unique and powerful thought leaders about how to earn more, keep more, spend smarter, and grow wealth.

Episodes

Are We Heading Into a Recession? J Scott Breaks It Down

July 29, 2025 • 56 mins
In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by real estate expert J Scott to break down the mixed signals dominating today's economic landscape. Are we or we not heading into a recession? They discuss what's really happening with GDP growth, consumer spending patterns, and the evolving nature of work itself. From the rise of gig economy jobs that complicate traditional employ...
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How to Fast Track Your Path to FIRE | The Wealth Ladder

July 25, 2025 • 49 mins
In this insightful episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench delve into the practical steps for building wealth with financial writer Nick Maggiulli. They discuss his new book, 'The Wealth Ladder,' which introduces a six-level wealth ladder for assessing and enhancing one's financial strategy. From establishing emergency savings in level one to focusing on investment choices in level three and conte...
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How to Achieve Financial Independence in the Military

July 22, 2025 • 69 mins
In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench, along with guest David Pere, delve deep into achieving financial independence while serving in the military. They discuss the unique advantages of military benefits, such as zero-cost healthcare and housing allowances, and how these can be leveraged to fast-track financial independence. The episode is packed with actionable advice and real-life...
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The Portfolio Strategy That Could Double Your Safe Withdrawal Rate

July 18, 2025 • 56 mins
In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench welcome Frank Vasquez back on to challenge everything you thought you knew about safe withdrawal rates. Frank reveals how a properly constructed risk parity portfolio can support a 5% withdrawal rate—meaning you could comfortably pull $125,000 annually from a $2.5 million portfolio without the traditional fear of running out of money. This isn'...
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The Portfolio that Supports a 5% Safe Withdrawal Rate | Frank Vasquez

July 15, 2025 • 62 mins
In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by Frank Vasquez, host of the Risk Parity Radio Podcast. Frank introduces the concept of a risk parity portfolio. Rather than relying on traditional stock-heavy portfolios, Frank reveals how strategic diversification across asset classes can potentially support higher withdrawal rates while actually reducing your risk of running out ...
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How Much Do You Need for Early Retirement? (How to Calculate Your FI Number)

July 11, 2025 • 42 mins
What’s your financial independence number (FI/FIRE number)? Are you being too conservative, or are you cutting things close? Do you even have one? Today, we’re taking a deep dive into this hotly debated topic to help you build a nest egg that will support your early retirement! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! How much money do you actually need to retire? For years, the four-percent rule has been the “official” st...
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The Best Investing Order of Operations for FIRE (2025)

July 8, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench discuss the order of operations for investing your money to achieve FIRE. They outline the steps for both traditional early retirees and those looking to invest in real estate (or start a business).  If you’re a beginner in the FIRE movement, start here and work through these steps to FIRE the fastest. If you’re close to FIRE already or at a si...
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How I'm Accessing My IRA at 45 (Without Paying Penalties)

July 4, 2025 • 56 mins
Want to access your IRA before turning 59½ without paying the brutal 10% early withdrawal penalty? You're not alone, and there are completely legal ways to do it that most people never learn about. In this comprehensive guide, John Bowens from Equity Trust will walk us through the exact strategies that allow you to tap into your IRA funds for early retirement, major expenses, or financial emergencies while staying on the right side...
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Your Complete Guide to Financial Independence (2025)

July 1, 2025 • 41 mins
The FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement has transformed how people think about work, money, and retirement. In this comprehensive episode, Mindy and Scott break down everything you need to know about achieving financial independence and potentially retiring decades earlier than traditional retirement age. We explore the mathematics behind FIRE, different approaches to the movement, and practical strategies for dra...
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Wall Street Pro Reveals Why He Ditched Trading for Index Funds

June 27, 2025 • 45 mins
In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy and Scott speak with Victor Haghani, a seasoned financial expert whose journey from Wall Street titan to FIRE advocate will transform how you think about wealth building. Victor's path from Salomon Brothers and Long-Term Capital Management to founding Elm Wealth reveals the shocking truth: the complex strategies that made millions on Wall Street pale in comparison to simple...
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How to FIRE Without Investing in Real Estate

June 24, 2025 • 35 mins
You're eager to build serious wealth, but the idea of managing tenants, fixing toilets, handling trash issues, and dealing with the endless headaches that come with real estate investing makes you cringe. Even though we're the world's largest platform for real estate investors, we totally understand that the landlord life isn't suited for everyone. The great news? Real estate is definitely not your only ticket to wealth. There are ...
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Is Your FIRE Strategy Wrong? The Middle Class Trap Debate with Brad Barrett

June 20, 2025 • 59 mins
Buying a house, maxing out your 401(k), and leveraging real estate are considered the gold standard for building wealth, but what if these strategies are actually sabotaging your early retirement? Today, we're diving into the controversial "middle-class trap" debate with Brad Barrett from the ChooseFI podcast! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Is your net worth locked up in home equity and retirement accounts you c...
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The Proven Path to Financial Independence in Your 40s

June 17, 2025 • 65 mins
On this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with Dave Fleischer, a teacher who's proving that you don't need a six-figure salary to achieve financial independence. If you've ever felt discouraged because your FI number seems impossibly high or your current salary feels too small to build real wealth, this episode will completely shift your perspective by showing that financial in...
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How to Access Retirement Funds Early Using the 72(t) Strategy

June 13, 2025 • 66 mins
On this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with John Bowens from Equity Trust. John is an expert on the often-overlooked 72(t)t rule that could be a game-changer for early retirees. This often misunderstood withdrawal strategy allows people under 59.5 to tap into their retirement accounts without facing the brutal 10% early withdrawal penalty that typically guards these funds....
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Money with Katie: Breaking Free from the Middle-Class Money Trap

June 10, 2025 • 59 mins
Katie Gatti Tassin from "Money with Katie" escaped the middle-class wealth trap of endless working and spending by having her "financial awakening" early. Through just a few years of self-education she more than doubled her income, built a profitable business, and mastered retirement investing and passive income strategies. She's documented all of these wealth-building strategies in her new book "Rich Girl Nation: Taking Charge of ...
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4% Rule Creator Bill Bengen Reveals His NEW 5% Retirement Strategy

June 6, 2025 • 54 mins
The 4% rule just got a major update! Bill Bengen, the creator of the famous 4% withdrawal rule, returns to share his latest research that's changing retirement planning forever. Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Discover why he's now recommending a 4.7% withdrawal rate and what this means for YOUR retirement strategy. In this episode, you'll learn: Why Bill Bengen updated his iconic 4% rule after decades of res...
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The Ultimate Guide to Asset Protection: LLCs, Insurance & Partnerships

June 3, 2025 • 54 mins
Do you really need an LLC for rentals? What kind of insurance should you get? With so many questions (and confusion) surrounding asset protection for real estate investors, we’ve brought on an expert to set the record straight so you can protect your assets—without going overboard or breaking the bank! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Today, we’re chatting with real estate attorney and fellow investor Bonnie Gala...
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The “Set It and Forget It” Path to FIRE by Your 40s

May 30, 2025 • 40 mins
If you invest consistently, reaching FIRE (financial independence, retire early) by your mid-40s is absolutely possible. These two financial-freedom-chasing twins are proof of it! Only in their 20s, both Andy and Oliver from Twin Finances have six-figure net worths, rental properties, and fully-loaded stock accounts! Conveniently, right after getting their first jobs, they found out about the FIRE movement, and have been quickly ap...
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Leaving His Job at 36 to Give Back, NOT Get Rich During FI

May 27, 2025 • 55 mins
For many of us, FI (financial independence) isn’t just about having the biggest bank account. Growing wealth is one thing, but getting rich isn’t the goal. Freedom, time with loved ones, and giving back to your community are. So, when he reached the millionaire mark and achieved Coast FI, Ryan Brennan knew it was time to leave his new director role and focus on something that fueled his FIRE in a non-financial way. But, how did ...
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If No One Follows the 4% Rule, What IS the Right Withdrawal Rate?

May 23, 2025 • 61 mins
Most people assume the “safe withdrawal rate” for retirement (or early retirement) is 4%. But, if that’s the case, why is it SO hard to find anyone who’s gotten to their FIRE number, quit their job, and lived entirely off of the 4% rule? If the 4% rule is so safe and backed by solid math, why are so few FIRE followers confident enough to actually use it? We don’t know. So we asked Karsten, AKA “Big Ern,” from Early Retirement Now t...
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