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Research suggests that the perception of aging varies depending on factors like age, gender, and location. Join host Bill Monty in this intriguing episode as he delves into the fascinating concept of the "age gauge" and explores how individuals perceive their place on the spectrum of aging.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If it's warm outside but you're feeling colder, not
sure what to do.
Without a friendly shoulder,you're not alone, so start
feeling bolder.
Welcome to Bill Monty's Guidefor Getting Older, thank you.

(00:24):
Thank you very much and welcometo Bill Monty's Guide for
Getting Older.
The oldest person in the worldjust turned 117 years old.
I didn't even get her abirthday present.
Sorry about that, but I have towonder you know, at 117,?
Is that when you finally say,yeah, I'm old, because people

(00:48):
are living longer?
The concept of at what agepeople perceive themselves as
being old is starting to change.
New research suggests that 74is the new 71, which I don't
find all that impressive, to behonest.
I mean three years, 74, 71.
Tell me 74 is the new 54.
I'm impressed.

(01:08):
74, 71, not as much.
But it does show that ourperception of when old age
begins is changing, with mostpeople believing that this phase
of life begins later than itused to for them, according to a
new study published in theJournal of Psychology and Aging.

(01:28):
While the study didn't look atwhy this particular shift has
occurred, experts say it doesmake sense, and that's not a bad
thing.
Humans, on average, are livinglonger than ever some to 117,
and examples of people livingfull lives well beyond
retirement age are everywhere.
Experts on aging, many of whomare already in their 70s, into

(01:50):
their 80s.
They're not surprised and theysay it's part of a promising
trend away from negativestereotypes about what getting
older means.
Now, if you listen to my lastepisode, the Invisible
Generation, you'll see I don'texactly agree with the negative
stereotypes.
Listen to my last episode, theInvisible Generation, you'll see
I don't exactly agree with thenegative stereotypes.
I think we're on an uphillbattle here to still stay

(02:15):
relevant in the minds of youngerpeople and in just society as a
whole in America.
But what does this particularstudy say?
Well, researchers at theHumboldt University in Berlin
asked more than 14,000 Germanadults when old age begins.
They posed this question eighttimes over a 25-year period,
quizzing participants when theywere anywhere from 40 to 100

(02:37):
years old.
At age 65, those who were bornin 1911 said, on average, that
old age begins at age 71.
But when people born in 1956reached the same age, they said
that someone was old at age 74,on average.
And it wasn't just agenerational difference.

(02:58):
People also pushed back theirold age number as they
themselves aged.
So at age 64, people said thatold age starts at 74.
But by the time those peoplereach 74, they believe they
still weren't yet old and saidold age begins at just a little
bit under 77.
Women also tended to say thatold age started later than men,

(03:23):
and the older people got, thewider that gender gap grows.
What I'm wondering today, inthinking about this person who
turned 117, and in thinkingabout myself, is do middle-aged
and older adults today set thebeginning of old age later than
the generations before them?
You know, I remember when I wasabout 20.

(03:44):
I was at a New Year's Eve partyand a friend of mine about my
same age was getting, shall wesay, amorous with the mother of
one of our peers and I rememberthinking dude, what are you
doing?
She's old, she was probablyabout 45 at the time.
So my perception of whensomeone else was old certainly

(04:04):
has changed as I've gotten older.
But what about my perception ofif I am old?
I certainly am physicallyaffected by being older.
I can't do some things that Iused to be able to do, and I'm
not talking about what I used tobe able to do when I was 25.
I'm talking about what I usedto be able to do just about five
or six years ago.

(04:24):
But am I old or am I just older?
That's why this show is calledBill Monty's Guide for Getting
Older and not Bill Monty's Guidefor being Old, because I think
there's a difference.
So in the US the average lifeexpectancy is now 77 and a half.
That's five and a half yearslonger than in 1974, according

(04:47):
to the latest CDC data, and Igot to tell you something again.
That's not very impressive.
So since 1974, we've onlyincreased life expectancy by
five and a half years, andinteresting to note that in
Germany by five and a half years.
And interesting to note that inGermany, where that study was
conducted, the average lifeexpectancy is 78 for men and 83
for women.
I'm not surprised by that,considering how we live in

(05:11):
America, based on how I assumethey live in Germany.
I've never been there, but Ihave to assume they're living
better than we are becausethey're living longer.
Maybe it's better health care,maybe it's better diets, I don't
know.
But let's face it.
These days many of us knowsomebody who is 100 or at least
in their mid to late 90s.
In the past you didn't knowanybody who lived to 100.

(05:33):
George Burns might have been itfor everyone in the world, but
they were there just few and farbetween.
Have been it for everyone inthe world, but they were there
just few and far between, so notas many people knew about them.
So back then, when people weredying at 70, 75 more on average,
we started to think ofourselves as old at 50 or 60.
How many times years ago didyou go to a birthday party or to

(05:55):
your own party?
When you turn 50 and think I'mold, I guess it's all over,
because culture tells us onoccasion how we're supposed to
be at a given age.
Right, but there are alwayspeople who are willing to ignore
that and they become rolemodels for everyone else.
I remember health guru JackLaLanne from when I was a child.
You know he was on the comicbook covers, the back covers,

(06:18):
but he had a show in the earlymorning, I remember, and he wore
that jumpsuit and he would doexercises.
I remember thinking at the timewow, he is old.
He was probably 55 or 60, buthe appeared to redefine the
concept of what old was and whatolder people could do, could do

(06:43):
.
More recently, jane Fonda comesto mind as someone who
continues to push the concept ofold age further and further
down the road.
Changing perceptions of whatconstitutes old age is good news
, but not surprising, sayexperts.
Catherine Esty, a socialpsychologist and author of the
book 80-somethings, says thatshe thinks it's positive.
She adds that how and whenpeople think about old age is

(07:03):
very powerful.
People say I'm older or I'maging, and they'll use that
phrasing, but they won't say I'mold.
She says if you have a positiveattitude toward aging, you're
going to live that seven and ahalf years longer.
And seven and a half years.
She's referencing some previousresearch that found that people
who have a positive outlooktoward aging live an average of

(07:26):
seven and a half years longerthan those who don't.
Our whole American society doesnot handle old age well.
We need a redo where we alllearn what it is really like to
be older.
By the way, we all learn whatit is really like to be older.
By the way, ms Esty is 89 yearsold.
People are mistaken, she says.
They dread it and they thinkthey know for sure how it will

(07:47):
be and spend so much energy andmoney trying not to look old.
I think that's important whatshe says there.
They dread it and think theyknow for sure how it will be.
It's kind of like you make thatprediction and then you live it
because you've already be.
It's kind of like you make thatprediction and then you live it
because you've alreadypredicted Self-fulfilling
prophecy.
So for me, the key to aging wellis not only believing that you

(08:07):
can live a long and active life,because if you think life is
over, it probably will be andyou'll have a tendency to
withdraw from the world insteadof interacting and trying to add
more life to your years.
You're going to need towithdraw from the world instead
of interacting and trying to addmore life to your years.
You're going to need to stay apart of the world Again.
In the last episode I spokeabout how baby boomers are

(08:28):
becoming a forgotten, invisiblegeneration, but that can only
happen if we let it.
By reducing the negativestereotypes around aging.
The world and our society wouldsay oh, look, look at these
people, look at what they'redoing, look at this community
out there, look at how they keepcontributing in ways that are
beneficial for everyone.
So what steps can you take tolive longer and push your

(08:51):
personal definition of oldfurther away?
We're going to discuss thatright after this quick break.
Going to discuss that rightafter this quick break.
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(09:11):
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Thank you, and now back to theshow.
While a lot of what determineshow long we live is out of our

(09:55):
control, genetics and plain dumbluck play their part too.
Right.
There are some habitsassociated with living healthier
and, by extension, livinglonger lives.
Now, some of these are reallynot going to be that
mind-blowing for you You'veheard them for many years but
it's better to explore them andlet's talk about them.

(10:15):
First off, get some more sleep.
Quality sleep is regenerativefor your body.
It supports cognitive functionand regulates mood.
Now, I know if you're like me.
Sleep means you go to bedsomewhere around 10 o'clock,
somewhere around 1 o'clock, youwake up to, you know, do your
thing, and then you come backand you lay in bed for four

(10:38):
hours wondering what you'regoing to do, okay, and then you
fall asleep and when you have towake up for me to go to work,
you can't wake up Because youhaven't had enough sleep.
Get some more sleep, this willhelp.
This one was surprising to me.
Eat more fermented foods, fromkimchi to yogurt to pickles.

(10:58):
Adding more fermented foodsinto your diet could bolster
longevity.
Fermented foods are anexcellent natural probiotic and
great for digestion and immunity, says Maddy Dickwalt,
co-founder of AgeWave andco-author of Ageless Aging A
Woman's Guide to IncreasingHealthspan, brainspan and
Lifespan.

(11:19):
Not about spans at all, doesn'tit?
So I'm all for that.
Hey, I love kimchi.
I'll eat that all the time.
Pickles, yes, yogurt not asmuch.
And you know we said beforethat people in Germany live
longer.
Are sauerkraut?
Is that fermented?
Don't see a lot of that there.
Maybe there is something tothis.
The next one if you don't knowit by now, you never will.

(11:40):
Avoid smoking and curb drinkingyeah, nothing big there.
Try and curb drinking yeah,nothing big there.
Try research-backed workoutstrategies.
Boy, you can find workout stuffeverywhere.
If you're on Medicare, chancesare your Medicare Advantage plan
, if you use that, has some kindof free plan for you to go to a
gym or a local community centerand it's not going to cost you

(12:01):
anything to go do a workout.
Silver sneakers, I know, is onethat you can do that and that I
use where I live.
So, yeah, get out there, take awalk.
You know, don't just sit aroundwatching TV.
And the last one make stressmanagement a part of your
routine.
Now, I know, easier said thandone, especially these days.

(12:22):
All the news that we getdoesn't it seem like none of
it's good.
Don't you just watch the news,maybe hoping something good
comes along and sometimes theywill, you know, a squirrel gets
rescued or something like that.
But the fact of the matter isthat long-term stress
contributes to serious healthissues such as a heart attack,
stroke, diabetes, depression,migraines, heartburn, nausea and
so much more.

(12:43):
Managing stress can bechallenging, right, there are
ways to control it, though, likemeditating and physical
exercise.
Now, I know we have talked aboutthis before, but if you're new
to the show, I'm going to preacha little bit about meditation.
And don't get scared.
I'm not talking about sittingon the floor which most of us
can't do anymore and sittingcross-legged and closing the

(13:05):
shades and turning the lightsoff and sitting with your hands
in some funky position likeyou're a Vulcan and then coming
up and meditating.
Not talking about that at all.
Go back to an earlier episode Idid in the first season where I
talk about it.
I'm not going into great detailabout it now, but if you
haven't, pick up a book called10% Happier by Dan Harris.

(13:29):
In it, dan Harris used to be aco-anchor on Good Morning
America on the weekends and wasan ABC reporter talks about how
he got into mindfulness,meditation and what it comes
down to is you just need to finda quiet space and if you only
do it two minutes a day, that'sokay.
And if you can't fall asleep,if you're lying in bed and you

(13:50):
can't go to sleep, meditationwill help.
It has helped me.
When I saw Dan Harris speakseveral years ago at a
conference and he talked aboutthis and I bought the book.
I can tell you it changed mylife.
And no, I don't get anykickback.
I have no relationship with DanHarris or 10% Happier, which is
also an app.
None of that.
I'm just passing it on, like Iwould to a friend.

(14:12):
If I found a good restaurant, Itell you to go eat there.
I'm telling you meditation willhelp.
And this takes the mystery outof it.
10% Happier, a Skeptic's Guideto Meditation by Dan Harris.
So my final question is goingback to the one at the beginning
of the show when do youconsider yourself as being old?

(14:35):
What age Are you already there?
Or do you see it in your nearfuture or your far future?
Or will you be forever young?
Oh, isn't that a song?
Forever Young, will you beforever young?
I know that physically thingsstart deteriorating, but I think
it's a state of mind.
So stay young.
Do silly things.
Do the things that make youlaugh again.
Don't forget what made youenjoy life years ago.
If you're not enjoying liferight now, remember when you did

(14:58):
.
I know things can be tough.
I know we face a lot ofhardships and a lot of
challenges right now, and I'mnot trying to minimize those or
downplay it.
But we have to find a way tohardships and a lot of
challenges right now, and I'mnot trying to minimize those or
downplay it, but we have to finda way to survive, right?
We can't just throw our handsup in the air and say that's it.
As a reminder, this program isfor entertainment purposes and
any advice that I give you isbased on my experiences.

(15:20):
Before you take any action onany recommendation that I make,
I encourage you to do your ownresearch, since your situation
is probably different than mine.
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(15:41):
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But if you just want to leave anice word, I appreciate that

(16:02):
and you can do that too.
Finally, always remember to bekind whenever possible because,
my friends, it is alwayspossible.
Thank you for listening andwe'll talk to you soon.
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