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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to a place where we're thinking together
and thinking deeper about who weare.
Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello, I'm William fortune.
And this is[inaudible] today.
God, according to dictionary.comGod, the one Supreme being the
creator and ruler of theuniverse, the Supreme being
(00:40):
considered with reference to aparticular attribute.
God, this is my seventh episode,my seventh podcast, and using
the number seven it's symbolismto godliness from the medium
maria.com.
(01:02):
Every day we come across thenumber seven.
We even sometimes don't realizeit, but it is part of our
everyday life.
The seven days of the week, theseven colors of the rainbow.
This number is also aparticularly strong symbol.
In many cultures, it isconsidered beneficial and
protective it's mysticalaspects, opened the door to many
(01:24):
beliefs and superstitions oftenconsidered a sacred number.
The number seven bears withinit, something spiritual eternal,
the number seven in religiousbeliefs.
This mystical number can befound in many sacred books, such
as the Bible, the Torah, or theKabbalah.
(01:46):
Here are a few examples.
The seven capital sins and theseven Catholic sacraments, the
seven days resulting in thecreation of the world, mentioned
in the Bible.
The seven chakras in Hinduismfrom Bible study.org seven is
the number of completeness andperfection, both physical and
(02:08):
spiritual.
It derives much of its meaningfrom being tied directly to
God's creation of all things.
According to some Jewishtraditions, the creation of Adam
occurred on September six, 37,60 BC, or the first day of
Tishri, which is the seventhmonth of the Hebrew calendar.
(02:29):
Today.
As I delve into God, I willbring to it my opinions, which I
also encourage each of you tocomment and add in your opinions
and create a, a conversationabout God.
In my opinion, God, capital G isnot a noun for it is not a
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person place or thing.
It is all in trying to explainGod or my idea of an explanation
of God.
Uh, I have a few differentmetaphorical descriptions of
God.
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One that I like to use whenpeople say, well, prove that
there is a God or prove thatthere isn't a God.
Um, you have to do either one orthe other.
And I use the example of radiowaves.
There are radio waves around usall the time and without the use
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of a receiver, a radio receiver,we would never recognize those.
And so to say that it'sabsolutely quiet in a very quiet
space would be incorrect becausethere are radio waves.
There are multiple manydifferent long wave short wave
am, FM radio waves around us,almost everywhere.
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There are very few places thatthose radio waves are not being
transmitted to.
And yet without the receiver,we're not aware of them that
also takes into account.
I do believe that by not beingaware of them, we also consider
that we're not affected by them,but we are.
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Those radio waves are out there.
And the same for God, if God wasto be used metaphorically as a
radio wave, if we don't have thereceiver to receive, or if our
receiver is not tuned to afrequency to, uh, to make sense
of that radio transmission, thenit would seem that God does not
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exist.
Or if we shut ourselves off tothat, that God does not exist.
But as we know with the rate,same as with the radio, when we
shut off the radio, it doesn'tmean that the radio station no
longer exists or that the radiostation is no longer
broadcasting.
It's still there.
We have just closed the means ofreceiving the information that's
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being put out there, or that isout there.
That being said is that, thatsame transmission, that same
transmission, that is God that'sputting, being put out at all
times, is that the, the radiosignal, the radio wave that
causes our heart to beat whenwe're inside in the womb, is
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that what gets the rhythm forour breath going?
And our hearts, is that whatcauses flowers to bloom?
Is that what gives the impulsefor
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Life?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Is there a transmission taking that same
analogy?
If there is then somewhere outthere is a transmitter?
Well, yes and no.
What if the universe itself wasthe transmitter?
I know it gets reallycomplicated and complex just as
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imagining that something thatvast or that huge or taking a
simple idea and put it into thescope and depth of God turns it
from simplicity to absolutecomplexness, uh, or complexity.
And, uh, it would, it bogglesthe mind.
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It absolutely boggles the mind.
In 2005, I rode my motorcyclefrom Los Angeles, California to
Atlantic city, New Jersey, uh,cross country trip of a few
thousand miles.
And as I was leaving the Westcutting through the canyons of
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California and then into Nevada,and as I rode my motorcycle
through one of these canyons,um, or cut in the rock two
mountains, it seemed on eitherside.
I looked up ahead on the roadand there was a dot coming down,
uh, what at first I thought,wow, another motorcycle coming
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down.
But then I realized how thedistance at which it was coming
this little dot.
And as I got closer, it gotlarger, of course.
And when I recognize what itwas, it was still a great
distance off.
And I realized it was a bus, aGreyhound bus coming through
that cut.
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And when I first noticed it,that tiny little dot on this
black ribbon, that's laid acrossthe face of our earth.
It made me think of cells in abeing or cells in an organism.
And that each of us were theselittle cells.
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We were tiny in the grand schemeof things on that stretch of
road, stretch of highway.
We were these tiny little specsand my brain exploded with the
idea that we are these specs onthis larger thing earth, which
was really just a speck in theuniverse or in the galaxy
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really.
And then that galaxy is a speckin something larger.
And that's something larger is aspeck in the grand scheme of
things in this universe ormultiverse, or however you look
at that.
And it constantly, as I gotbigger and bigger, everything
just got smaller and smaller.
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And I also realized that we aremade up that each of these
things, us, me on themotorcycle, the bus full of
people, we are also made of, ofother component parts, the bus
buses, all the components thatmake up the bus.
So each of those things are madeup of molecules of atoms, of
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tiny little things.
And I just, as I expanded out tothis on a universal scale or a
multi-vessel scale, I shrunk itdown on a atomic scale and
realized that as far out as wecan go, we can also go in.
And what does that have to dowith God?
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It's the same mind boggling,genus, that that is that, you
know, we, I mentioned that God,the idea that God could be a
radio wave and being transmittedthroughout, or God could be an
organism and each planetpossibly a cell in that organism
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or each galaxy, a cell in thatorganism and each planet I
particle making up that cell.
And once again, brain boggle,uh, to think of the, the idea
of, of godliness of the enormityof that.
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And, uh, I don't even know whereto go from there.
Um, both outward and inward.
I also use the analogy of Godbeing like an ocean and that God
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energy is the water of thisvast, vast ocean.
That vast ocean, that is theuniverse.
That is the multiverse.
That is all that is out there.
And that being made up of justpure energy.
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And then I take ourselves, ushumans, animals as living
creatures.
And then each of us is a portionof that ocean.
Imagine that you are a vessel, aglass, a jar, and the life that
is you, that is in you, yoursoul, your energy is as if that
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glass was scooped into thatocean and filled up with the
water, the life force.
That is God.
When I use that analogy, uh, Ialso, it helps me and it also,
it helps me with the concept ofreincarnation, um, that if we
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are scoops from that, that Godocean, we are dipped out and
filled up into the vessel thatwe are.
And we are just the jar, thewater balloon, we are the
baggage that holds that energy.
And we dip, we pour that energyback in, at the end of our
lives, back into the ocean thathas God.
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We can take that same jar andscoop again.
And just like you would in anybody of water, if you scoop
again, you're not going to getthe same exact, that is exactly
the same particles that were inthat first one.
Some will be the same and somewill be different if each of
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those particles is charged witha life and experiences, as we
dip back out, we will get otherexperiences.
So there are many of us havethese things where we go, huh?
I recognize you.
And I've never met you before.
Or I remember a moment or I can,I feel like I've lived this life
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before, or I've had thisexperience before, or I know
something that I am really, I'venever learned, uh, intuition,
deja, VU, many of these things,there are quite a few of us.
Who've experienced them.
What if those are memories inthat life force that was scooped
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out of the ocean that has God,then there will be many people,
thousands, millions of peoplewho will say that they are the
reincarnation of GeorgeWashington or Napoleon Bonaparte
or Gandhi.
And they could be correct.
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They may be correct.
They may have portions of thatmemory, that energy of that
vibration, that was GeorgeWashington, Frederick Douglass,
Napoleon Bonaparte in the worldthat we live in.
If in our godliest state, we area vast ocean of
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interconnectedness and we getscooped out and poured into the
vessel.
That is our bodies, our humanlife.
That existence becomes aseparation from that, which is
the divine space of godliness ofconnectedness, which creates
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that longing to connect, toreconnect.
It also opens that door of, ofkindredness, of where you feel
connected to someone, forwhatever reasons.
There are some people that go,this is my opposite.
This is my, this is the personthat makes me whole, or these
are the people that make mehold.
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This is my tribe.
Could it be that in that you aresimply remembering the
connectedness in that godlydivine state?
Yes.
I've diverged a bit from God togodliness, to the idea or to a
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metaphor analogy of what God isfrom the ocean to the radio
wave.
And I know that there are manyother explanations that are out
there on that.
And there are many more, if youput your mind to it and think on
it, you can go much deeper andfind so many other things.
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And I encourage you to engage,uh, engage in discussion on this
with others.
And in that engagement ofdiscussion, do it in a godly way
and a connected way.
What is that?
Openness?
I throw out my opinion, not asthe opinion or the one way, but
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as an idea, as a prompt to getus started in a conversation,
because I want to open that doorto hear back from you, this idea
that I throw out there, or thisopinion that I throw out on God,
which is huge, which isenormous.
And that's capital G God, thisis his harebrained, really a
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hair in my brain, uh, stirredthis up.
And, and I worked, I went withit.
I let myself meditate on it.
I let myself ponder on it.
I let myself engage you on that.
And I ask that if this so movesyou, whether it fires you up and
you go, William, you arecompletely off base, William,
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you haven't, you don't even havea clue.
I say, of course you arecorrect.
I don't have a clue.
I am firmly in the center of, Idon't know, Ville and looking
for anything.
It's a path that I'm willing totake in any direction, um, of
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enlightenment that you have tooffer.
I am don't know that I amoffering enlightenment.
I'm shutting a light in mypocket of awareness or my pocket
of concern, or my pocket ofunknowing in this God's space.
And I ask that you turn on yourlight and aluminate, what's in
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your mind to show us some ofthat.
Really.
I see that in another way thatGod is a puzzle and it's a
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puzzle that we are all piecesof.
And only when we connect, do weactually get the bigger picture?
Will we ever get the bigpicture?
I don't think that we'reactually going to get a few
billion people to connect, tocome up with the big, the full
big picture, but we can getcloser and we can start to see
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some things, similarities anddifferences in my search for
answers for my search for moreinformation, because I don't
know that there is any onedefinitive answer.
I know there are portions to theanswer and in my search for
more, I have sought outreligious teachings on God, in
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references in the Koran, theTorah, the Bible, of course, in
miracles, I have brought in alot of that thinking to help
shape a bigger picture, to helpopen a door for a bigger
picture.
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So on God, I don't believe thatI am a puppet of God that I am
without my own will that I amjust following a path of
destiny.
I see myself more like a windupcar that I was wound up at birth
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and set out or set down.
My wheels are spinning.
I keep I've bumped into manythings.
I've fallen in some potholes.
I've come out of them.
I've been lifted up in manytimes, not knowing how to
different places and I'm stillrunning, seeking.
I'm not seeking the divineanswer to the meaning of life,
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the universe and everything,which I know is 42.
And I'm not even asking thequestion, cause I can't have the
question in the answer at thesame time.
Right?
And I think that's, that'sbrilliant.
You can have the question or youcan have the answer, but when
you get them both together, allthings cease to exist.
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That to me is absolutebrilliance.
And that is the answer to whatis God.
We can have many differentopinions on God and each of
those will be apportioned.
And each of those will be acorrect portion or puzzle piece
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to the big picture of what isGod.
And what I am saying is if youseek comfort in that godly
space, through religion, if itgives you a place and a home,
then that's your path.
If you seek it outside ofreligion, then that's your path.
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Which path is, is the correctpath.
Both of them, all of them, whichpath will get you to where you
need to go.
Both of them, all of them.
That is the conundrum of God.
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God is end of sentence.
God is what you put after.
That is correct.
God is this laptop in front ofme?
God is the shoes that I put onGod is the ocean.
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God is the sky.
God is the cloud.
God is God is person placething.
Animal mineral.
God is earth, wind fire, airspace, particles, atoms.
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As you can hear, as you can inlistening to this, this
discussion of God, hopefullyfrom reading the comments that
are put up there, hopefully fromyour engagement, this becomes a
much larger conversation.
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I ask that as you put up yourcomments, respond with open
heart and open mind.
One of my, the things I I dowith my children is the test of
the three Gates as it comes out,whether it's written spoken, is
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it kind, is it necessary?
Is it helpful in the idea of Godand godliness, which I do
believe will be another episodeof our, another podcast of bill
RCFE on godliness?
What is godliness?
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Um, it is impossible to beperfect and understanding where
the need or the necessity forgodliness comes from in each of
us, I think is important todiscover for self does not
necessarily something that needsto be shared process might be
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shared.
Uh, but the idea of thatperfection, the idea of the
perfect Knicks, the perfectnessof God, the all knowing the all,
seeing the all being the allthinking.
And for me, my awareness of Godhas taken me in the other
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direction.
Oh, I sought perfection becauseI knew how imperfect I was and I
know how imperfect I am yet.
I also know that my imperfectionmakes me the perfect me.
So in my imperfection, I becomeperfect.
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Once again, that the duality ofGod in going in both directions,
God being perfectly balanced,God is light.
God is dark.
God is balance equilibrium.
God is all one of the things Ididn't say about this was how
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deep this is, how deep theconcept of God is.
Of course, if there is duality,it also has to be unbelievably
shallow as well, mind bogglingin my studies and my spiritual
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studies, um, in studying of Godand searching for clues in
reading the Bible would read God, speaking directly to people in
the Bible and wanting to hearthe voice of God.
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What is the voice of God?
What does it sound like?
And one of the things Idiscovered is that the voice of
God sounds like your voice attimes.
Oh, that's not the general.
You I'm speaking directly toyou.
The one whose ears, this soundis going into and knowing that
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sometimes the voice of Godsounds like me.
There are times when I findmyself speaking and I'm saying
words, and I'm hearing the wordsthat I'm not thinking about.
And afterwards, I, I wonder wasthat God speaking through me, or
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there are things, questions thatI'll have in my mind.
And I'll be having aconversation with someone and
not ask the question and yet getthe answer directly spoken to
me.
And I wonder was that the voiceof God, I also in hearing the
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voice of God in others, andsometimes in myself, I also hear
the voice of God in silence,sitting quietly, walking
quietly, hearing nothing andeverything at the same time, the
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pattern of which I'm speakingright now is intentional for in
my voice, you hear the silenceis between the words in that
pattern of silence lies.
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God stands, God exists.
God, pardon my soft voice.
There are times as I speak as Iwork, as I move through this
life, that I am completely awedto silence, to listen and
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experience that, which is out ofmy control.
The sounds of birds, wind leavesfootsteps in the leaves,
animals, humans, car tires onthe ground, airplanes, far off
vehicles, cars, trucks, a dogbarking crickets, the hum of
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energy.
And as I listen to that, ittakes me to a place of knowing
and unknowing that there is Godout there.
The God that is orchestratingthat symphony of sound that we
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might call nature.
We might call environmental thesounds of the blood pumping
through our planet, the blood orthe cells on the surface, but
there's other blood pumping inthe core underneath.
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And to me, that is magnificentand beautiful.
And it, me a glimpse
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Of what looking into the face of God might be as I
close out this episode of billossify on God, I'm grateful for
the ear spoon for giving me aplatform to be heard.
I'm grateful for you forlistening.
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I am William fortune, and thisis bill[inaudible] go forward
with passion and purpose.
Thanks for listening.
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[inaudible].
Welcome to a place where we're thinking together
and thinking deeper about who weare.
Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello, I'm William fortune.
And this is[inaudible] today.
God, according to dictionary.comGod, the one Supreme being the
creator and ruler of theuniverse, the Supreme being
(00:40):
considered with reference to aparticular attribute.
God, this is my seventh episode,my seventh podcast, and using
the number seven it's symbolismto godliness from the medium
maria.com.
(01:02):
Every day we come across thenumber seven.
We even sometimes don't realizeit, but it is part of our
everyday life.
The seven days of the week, theseven colors of the rainbow.
This number is also aparticularly strong symbol.
In many cultures, it isconsidered beneficial and
protective it's mysticalaspects, opened the door to many
(01:24):
beliefs and superstitions oftenconsidered a sacred number.
The number seven bears withinit, something spiritual eternal,
the number seven in religiousbeliefs.
This mystical number can befound in many sacred books, such
as the Bible, the Torah, or theKabbalah.
(01:46):
Here are a few examples.
The seven capital sins and theseven Catholic sacraments, the
seven days resulting in thecreation of the world, mentioned
in the Bible.
The seven chakras in Hinduismfrom Bible study.org seven is
the number of completeness andperfection, both physical and
(02:08):
spiritual.
It derives much of its meaningfrom being tied directly to
God's creation of all things.
According to some Jewishtraditions, the creation of Adam
occurred on September six, 37,60 BC, or the first day of
Tishri, which is the seventhmonth of the Hebrew calendar.
(02:29):
Today.
As I delve into God, I willbring to it my opinions, which I
also encourage each of you tocomment and add in your opinions
and create a, a conversationabout God.
In my opinion, God, capital G isnot a noun for it is not a
(02:54):
person place or thing.
It is all in trying to explainGod or my idea of an explanation
of God.
Uh, I have a few differentmetaphorical descriptions of
God.
(03:15):
One that I like to use whenpeople say, well, prove that
there is a God or prove thatthere isn't a God.
Um, you have to do either one orthe other.
And I use the example of radiowaves.
There are radio waves around usall the time and without the use
(03:37):
of a receiver, a radio receiver,we would never recognize those.
And so to say that it'sabsolutely quiet in a very quiet
space would be incorrect becausethere are radio waves.
There are multiple manydifferent long wave short wave
am, FM radio waves around us,almost everywhere.
(04:01):
There are very few places thatthose radio waves are not being
transmitted to.
And yet without the receiver,we're not aware of them that
also takes into account.
I do believe that by not beingaware of them, we also consider
that we're not affected by them,but we are.
(04:23):
Those radio waves are out there.
And the same for God, if God wasto be used metaphorically as a
radio wave, if we don't have thereceiver to receive, or if our
receiver is not tuned to afrequency to, uh, to make sense
of that radio transmission, thenit would seem that God does not
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exist.
Or if we shut ourselves off tothat, that God does not exist.
But as we know with the rate,same as with the radio, when we
shut off the radio, it doesn'tmean that the radio station no
longer exists or that the radiostation is no longer
broadcasting.
It's still there.
We have just closed the means ofreceiving the information that's
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being put out there, or that isout there.
That being said is that, thatsame transmission, that same
transmission, that is God that'sputting, being put out at all
times, is that the, the radiosignal, the radio wave that
causes our heart to beat whenwe're inside in the womb, is
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that what gets the rhythm forour breath going?
And our hearts, is that whatcauses flowers to bloom?
Is that what gives the impulsefor
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Life?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Is there a transmission taking that same
analogy?
If there is then somewhere outthere is a transmitter?
Well, yes and no.
What if the universe itself wasthe transmitter?
I know it gets reallycomplicated and complex just as
(06:20):
imagining that something thatvast or that huge or taking a
simple idea and put it into thescope and depth of God turns it
from simplicity to absolutecomplexness, uh, or complexity.
And, uh, it would, it bogglesthe mind.
(06:43):
It absolutely boggles the mind.
In 2005, I rode my motorcyclefrom Los Angeles, California to
Atlantic city, New Jersey, uh,cross country trip of a few
thousand miles.
And as I was leaving the Westcutting through the canyons of
(07:04):
California and then into Nevada,and as I rode my motorcycle
through one of these canyons,um, or cut in the rock two
mountains, it seemed on eitherside.
I looked up ahead on the roadand there was a dot coming down,
uh, what at first I thought,wow, another motorcycle coming
(07:24):
down.
But then I realized how thedistance at which it was coming
this little dot.
And as I got closer, it gotlarger, of course.
And when I recognize what itwas, it was still a great
distance off.
And I realized it was a bus, aGreyhound bus coming through
that cut.
(07:44):
And when I first noticed it,that tiny little dot on this
black ribbon, that's laid acrossthe face of our earth.
It made me think of cells in abeing or cells in an organism.
And that each of us were theselittle cells.
(08:06):
We were tiny in the grand schemeof things on that stretch of
road, stretch of highway.
We were these tiny little specsand my brain exploded with the
idea that we are these specs onthis larger thing earth, which
was really just a speck in theuniverse or in the galaxy
(08:30):
really.
And then that galaxy is a speckin something larger.
And that's something larger is aspeck in the grand scheme of
things in this universe ormultiverse, or however you look
at that.
And it constantly, as I gotbigger and bigger, everything
just got smaller and smaller.
(08:52):
And I also realized that we aremade up that each of these
things, us, me on themotorcycle, the bus full of
people, we are also made of, ofother component parts, the bus
buses, all the components thatmake up the bus.
So each of those things are madeup of molecules of atoms, of
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tiny little things.
And I just, as I expanded out tothis on a universal scale or a
multi-vessel scale, I shrunk itdown on a atomic scale and
realized that as far out as wecan go, we can also go in.
And what does that have to dowith God?
(09:38):
It's the same mind boggling,genus, that that is that, you
know, we, I mentioned that God,the idea that God could be a
radio wave and being transmittedthroughout, or God could be an
organism and each planetpossibly a cell in that organism
(10:04):
or each galaxy, a cell in thatorganism and each planet I
particle making up that cell.
And once again, brain boggle,uh, to think of the, the idea
of, of godliness of the enormityof that.
(10:28):
And, uh, I don't even know whereto go from there.
Um, both outward and inward.
I also use the analogy of Godbeing like an ocean and that God
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energy is the water of thisvast, vast ocean.
That vast ocean, that is theuniverse.
That is the multiverse.
That is all that is out there.
And that being made up of justpure energy.
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And then I take ourselves, ushumans, animals as living
creatures.
And then each of us is a portionof that ocean.
Imagine that you are a vessel, aglass, a jar, and the life that
is you, that is in you, yoursoul, your energy is as if that
(11:37):
glass was scooped into thatocean and filled up with the
water, the life force.
That is God.
When I use that analogy, uh, Ialso, it helps me and it also,
it helps me with the concept ofreincarnation, um, that if we
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are scoops from that, that Godocean, we are dipped out and
filled up into the vessel thatwe are.
And we are just the jar, thewater balloon, we are the
baggage that holds that energy.
And we dip, we pour that energyback in, at the end of our
lives, back into the ocean thathas God.
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We can take that same jar andscoop again.
And just like you would in anybody of water, if you scoop
again, you're not going to getthe same exact, that is exactly
the same particles that were inthat first one.
Some will be the same and somewill be different if each of
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those particles is charged witha life and experiences, as we
dip back out, we will get otherexperiences.
So there are many of us havethese things where we go, huh?
I recognize you.
And I've never met you before.
Or I remember a moment or I can,I feel like I've lived this life
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before, or I've had thisexperience before, or I know
something that I am really, I'venever learned, uh, intuition,
deja, VU, many of these things,there are quite a few of us.
Who've experienced them.
What if those are memories inthat life force that was scooped
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out of the ocean that has God,then there will be many people,
thousands, millions of peoplewho will say that they are the
reincarnation of GeorgeWashington or Napoleon Bonaparte
or Gandhi.
And they could be correct.
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They may be correct.
They may have portions of thatmemory, that energy of that
vibration, that was GeorgeWashington, Frederick Douglass,
Napoleon Bonaparte in the worldthat we live in.
If in our godliest state, we area vast ocean of
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interconnectedness and we getscooped out and poured into the
vessel.
That is our bodies, our humanlife.
That existence becomes aseparation from that, which is
the divine space of godliness ofconnectedness, which creates
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that longing to connect, toreconnect.
It also opens that door of, ofkindredness, of where you feel
connected to someone, forwhatever reasons.
There are some people that go,this is my opposite.
This is my, this is the personthat makes me whole, or these
are the people that make mehold.
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This is my tribe.
Could it be that in that you aresimply remembering the
connectedness in that godlydivine state?
Yes.
I've diverged a bit from God togodliness, to the idea or to a
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metaphor analogy of what God isfrom the ocean to the radio
wave.
And I know that there are manyother explanations that are out
there on that.
And there are many more, if youput your mind to it and think on
it, you can go much deeper andfind so many other things.
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And I encourage you to engage,uh, engage in discussion on this
with others.
And in that engagement ofdiscussion, do it in a godly way
and a connected way.
What is that?
Openness?
I throw out my opinion, not asthe opinion or the one way, but
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as an idea, as a prompt to getus started in a conversation,
because I want to open that doorto hear back from you, this idea
that I throw out there, or thisopinion that I throw out on God,
which is huge, which isenormous.
And that's capital G God, thisis his harebrained, really a
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hair in my brain, uh, stirredthis up.
And, and I worked, I went withit.
I let myself meditate on it.
I let myself ponder on it.
I let myself engage you on that.
And I ask that if this so movesyou, whether it fires you up and
you go, William, you arecompletely off base, William,
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you haven't, you don't even havea clue.
I say, of course you arecorrect.
I don't have a clue.
I am firmly in the center of, Idon't know, Ville and looking
for anything.
It's a path that I'm willing totake in any direction, um, of
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enlightenment that you have tooffer.
I am don't know that I amoffering enlightenment.
I'm shutting a light in mypocket of awareness or my pocket
of concern, or my pocket ofunknowing in this God's space.
And I ask that you turn on yourlight and aluminate, what's in
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your mind to show us some ofthat.
Really.
I see that in another way thatGod is a puzzle and it's a
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puzzle that we are all piecesof.
And only when we connect, do weactually get the bigger picture?
Will we ever get the bigpicture?
I don't think that we'reactually going to get a few
billion people to connect, tocome up with the big, the full
big picture, but we can getcloser and we can start to see
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some things, similarities anddifferences in my search for
answers for my search for moreinformation, because I don't
know that there is any onedefinitive answer.
I know there are portions to theanswer and in my search for
more, I have sought outreligious teachings on God, in
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references in the Koran, theTorah, the Bible, of course, in
miracles, I have brought in alot of that thinking to help
shape a bigger picture, to helpopen a door for a bigger
picture.
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So on God, I don't believe thatI am a puppet of God that I am
without my own will that I amjust following a path of
destiny.
I see myself more like a windupcar that I was wound up at birth
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and set out or set down.
My wheels are spinning.
I keep I've bumped into manythings.
I've fallen in some potholes.
I've come out of them.
I've been lifted up in manytimes, not knowing how to
different places and I'm stillrunning, seeking.
I'm not seeking the divineanswer to the meaning of life,
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the universe and everything,which I know is 42.
And I'm not even asking thequestion, cause I can't have the
question in the answer at thesame time.
Right?
And I think that's, that'sbrilliant.
You can have the question or youcan have the answer, but when
you get them both together, allthings cease to exist.
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That to me is absolutebrilliance.
And that is the answer to whatis God.
We can have many differentopinions on God and each of
those will be apportioned.
And each of those will be acorrect portion or puzzle piece
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to the big picture of what isGod.
And what I am saying is if youseek comfort in that godly
space, through religion, if itgives you a place and a home,
then that's your path.
If you seek it outside ofreligion, then that's your path.
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Which path is, is the correctpath.
Both of them, all of them, whichpath will get you to where you
need to go.
Both of them, all of them.
That is the conundrum of God.
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God is end of sentence.
God is what you put after.
That is correct.
God is this laptop in front ofme?
God is the shoes that I put onGod is the ocean.
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God is the sky.
God is the cloud.
God is God is person placething.
Animal mineral.
God is earth, wind fire, airspace, particles, atoms.
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As you can hear, as you can inlistening to this, this
discussion of God, hopefullyfrom reading the comments that
are put up there, hopefully fromyour engagement, this becomes a
much larger conversation.
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I ask that as you put up yourcomments, respond with open
heart and open mind.
One of my, the things I I dowith my children is the test of
the three Gates as it comes out,whether it's written spoken, is
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it kind, is it necessary?
Is it helpful in the idea of Godand godliness, which I do
believe will be another episodeof our, another podcast of bill
RCFE on godliness?
What is godliness?
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Um, it is impossible to beperfect and understanding where
the need or the necessity forgodliness comes from in each of
us, I think is important todiscover for self does not
necessarily something that needsto be shared process might be
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shared.
Uh, but the idea of thatperfection, the idea of the
perfect Knicks, the perfectnessof God, the all knowing the all,
seeing the all being the allthinking.
And for me, my awareness of Godhas taken me in the other
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direction.
Oh, I sought perfection becauseI knew how imperfect I was and I
know how imperfect I am yet.
I also know that my imperfectionmakes me the perfect me.
So in my imperfection, I becomeperfect.
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Once again, that the duality ofGod in going in both directions,
God being perfectly balanced,God is light.
God is dark.
God is balance equilibrium.
God is all one of the things Ididn't say about this was how
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deep this is, how deep theconcept of God is.
Of course, if there is duality,it also has to be unbelievably
shallow as well, mind bogglingin my studies and my spiritual
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studies, um, in studying of Godand searching for clues in
reading the Bible would read God, speaking directly to people in
the Bible and wanting to hearthe voice of God.
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What is the voice of God?
What does it sound like?
And one of the things Idiscovered is that the voice of
God sounds like your voice attimes.
Oh, that's not the general.
You I'm speaking directly toyou.
The one whose ears, this soundis going into and knowing that
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sometimes the voice of Godsounds like me.
There are times when I findmyself speaking and I'm saying
words, and I'm hearing the wordsthat I'm not thinking about.
And afterwards, I, I wonder wasthat God speaking through me, or
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there are things, questions thatI'll have in my mind.
And I'll be having aconversation with someone and
not ask the question and yet getthe answer directly spoken to
me.
And I wonder was that the voiceof God, I also in hearing the
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voice of God in others, andsometimes in myself, I also hear
the voice of God in silence,sitting quietly, walking
quietly, hearing nothing andeverything at the same time, the
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pattern of which I'm speakingright now is intentional for in
my voice, you hear the silenceis between the words in that
pattern of silence lies.
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God stands, God exists.
God, pardon my soft voice.
There are times as I speak as Iwork, as I move through this
life, that I am completely awedto silence, to listen and
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experience that, which is out ofmy control.
The sounds of birds, wind leavesfootsteps in the leaves,
animals, humans, car tires onthe ground, airplanes, far off
vehicles, cars, trucks, a dogbarking crickets, the hum of
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energy.
And as I listen to that, ittakes me to a place of knowing
and unknowing that there is Godout there.
The God that is orchestratingthat symphony of sound that we
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might call nature.
We might call environmental thesounds of the blood pumping
through our planet, the blood orthe cells on the surface, but
there's other blood pumping inthe core underneath.
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And to me, that is magnificentand beautiful.
And it, me a glimpse
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Of what looking into the face of God might be as I
close out this episode of billossify on God, I'm grateful for
the ear spoon for giving me aplatform to be heard.
I'm grateful for you forlistening.
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I am William fortune, and thisis bill[inaudible] go forward
with passion and purpose.
Thanks for listening.
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Thank you for listening to the philosophy
podcast.
Keep checking in as we will beregularly releasing new
episodes.
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