IT'S FINALLY HERE YAPPERS!!! In this two-episode deep dive, Shalini and guest host Alyanna Felix unpack the emotional chaos of The Summer I Turned Pretty Season 3’s big return. Is Jeremiah somehow even less mature than Season 1? Has Conrad's spark with Belly reignited—or did it ever leave? Plus, will Steven and Taylor have a future, and Jenny Han is dropping subtle easter eggs all over the place!!! Whether you're Team Jeremiah, Team Conrad, or Team "Belly needs therapy," we’ve got thoughts. Let’s yap about it.
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Happy summer yappers. Today's episode is all about the
summer I turn pretty Season 3 episodes one and two.
We break down all of the plot points between Belly and
Jeremiah, as well as Belly and Conrad.
That crossword identify some keydifferences between the books
and the show and talk through all of the Easter eggs that
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Jenny Hahn has blessed us with so far this season.
Oh, and let the record show, we are Team Conrad in this
household. Let's get into it, yappers.
Hello fellow yappers. I'm Ruchi and I'm Shalini and
we're your hosts. A binge, yap, repeat.
We're two best friends who spendan embarrassing amount of time
binge watching TV and honestly, we just need to talk about it.
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If you're here, we're guessing you do too.
Fair warning, this is a spoiler friendly zone.
We will be discussing lots of spoilers.
So if you haven't watched the show yet, hit pause, go binge,
and come back when you're ready to yap with us.
And now it's yap time. Hi Yappers, welcome to another
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episode of Binge Yap Repeat. I am joined today by my dear
friend Aliana. She and I are actually Co
workers and in 2023 we were working together on a project
and we bonded over our obsessionwith the Summer I Turn Pretty.
So I thought who better to bringon as a guest for our Summer I
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Turn Pretty series. Welcome, Aliana.
Thank you, I'm so excited to be on the show.
I've been a fan for a while and also I don't know if I'm
remembering correctly but I feellike I'm the one who told you to
watch the summer I turn Pretty. Maybe not.
We so we talked about Season 2 together, but I think I had
maybe decided not to watch season 2 or something.
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And you were like, no, no, no, you have to watch it.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, OK. OK, perfect.
OK, that that makes sense. And Season 2, I feel, I'm sure
we'll talk to you about it, but like, Season 2 is so different
from Season 1 tone wise. And also I feel like everyone
just kind of levelled up with the acting.
The script was a lot better, a lot less cringy.
So you picked a good season to get back into it?
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Or like you picked a good seasonnot to stop watching?
Yeah. I agree.
And I remember, I guess going back to season 2, I remember
because the episodes came out one by one.
I was like, oh, the season just like feels different.
It feels so dark and not a lot it.
Doesn't feel like summer. Yeah it doesn't feel like summer
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but then I in preparation for this season I went back and
binged re binge seasons one and two and I thought season 2
actually floats so much better as a binge than like a week by
week episode thing. Yeah I agree and I also did the
same exact thing. I rewatched both, but I I don't
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I think season 1 it all came outonce because it was a new show
and then because it was so popular they decide to do season
2. But I feel like they they did a
good job with season 2. The rollout.
I think they did like the first 3 episodes all released on the
first day and then weekly. But of course the first 3
episodes it's like you catch up on the timeline.
It's like Belly and Conrad and prom and I'm like I can't wait.
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I need to know what happens next.
So. I know, I know.
I'm not ready for the season. No one's ready.
And I read the books and I'm notready so.
That's right, yes. OK.
I was going to ask you about just your history with the
Summer I Turn pretty. So you have read the books.
You've read all of them. Yes.
So I started watching. It was, it was funny, 'cause
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it's kind of a full circle moment.
I started watching it when I first moved into my apartment
with my roommate in New York. And we were watching like on the
floor, phone stand, like no furniture.
And then we got obsessed with itand it became this whole huge
thing. And now for the last season,
it's just when we moved out. So we're like, Oh my gosh, we're
not watching it together. And it's summer.
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Like we're trying to coordinate.Like maybe we can watch the
finale or something together. But after last season, season 2,
that horrible ending, cause of course I'm team Conrad.
Like that ending, I was like, I cannot wait one year to know how
this ends. Like I cannot wait.
And good thing I didn't because I'm SAG after we had to wait two
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years for it. So I read all of the books like
that week because I was like, I just have to know.
So that's why I read the books. I didn't even read the books
before the show came out. It was just like I cannot wait.
I need to know. I was happy with how it ended.
That's all I'll say. OK, OK, interesting.
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But who knows what Jenny Han will do, because maybe Belly
will choose himself and I'm shutting the TV off if she does.
Like, absolutely not. No, literally same I was.
I was reading stuff that about how Jenny Han was saying that
the ending no one can expect or like no one will expect the
actual ending to the show and I was.
Like what? Don't say How could.
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It be that different. It's either Conrad or Jeremiah
or neither and I feel like I'll be upset if it's anyone but
Conrad. I will admit rewatching season 2
I actually started becoming teamJeremiah.
I don't. Say it, but I get it.
I get it, but don't say it. I know, I know.
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I was actually quite ashamed. But I think in season 2, they
they just, I think that's what the viewer is supposed to feel a
little bit. If you haven't seen or if you
haven't read the books, you're supposed to feel that like, OK,
Conrad was not giving Belly whatshe needs, but Jer is kind of
the steady, happy, like positiveforce.
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You're calling him Jer. You're on the right side.
Actually, no, but if that's that's totally what it is, I
feel like she's like the first book you kind of get to know
them as like a family, two families and all the characters.
Like you don't really, I guess you can find a team, but it's
not really like a strong way on each side.
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Yeah, I think really honestly show Jeremiah that much in
season 1. It's like all.
Exactly. And then episode 2, Book 2, it's
more Jeremiah because it's like,I think they have this
friendship and he's what she needs at the time.
Like she feels so rejected. And I think for some of the
wrong reasons too, that's why she ends up with Jeremiah
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because she's like, I just can'tgo through rejection.
And I want to be close to someone who cares about me.
So it makes so much sense. And I think Conrad knows like
he's not ready emotionally to bewith her even though he cares so
much about her. But book 3's Conrad is all I'm
gonna say. It's a lot of Jeremiah too.
But I would say you get you get a lot more perspective from
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Conrad. And in the book at a point it is
from his POV. So I'll see if he gets an
episode. I would love to hear him like
narrating. That would be really cool.
This. Season amazing.
OK, OK. I'm excited for that.
I feel like that's very possiblebecause in season 2 we got a
Jeremiah POV episodes. Yes, I remember that.
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Yeah, OK, well let's get started.
So today we are yapping all about the Summer I Turn Pretty
Season 3 episodes one and two that just dropped this past
Wednesday, July 16th. So far this season we've seen a
time jump of about four years since the end of season 2.
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So Belly is now finishing her junior year at Finch.
Jeremiah is a senior who is not graduating and Conrad is a first
year Med student at Stanford. We find out that Belly and
Conrad haven't really seen each other much since season 2 aside
from the occasional family reunion and a stealthy Christmas
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hang, and that she and Jeremiah have been pretty much going
strong for basically four years.We do find out that on a spring
break trip, Jeremiah cheated on Belly with a girl named Lacey
and that Steven has been in a serious car accident after a
fight with Taylor Aliana. What were your overall thoughts
for these two episodes? I think they did a great job.
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There are some differences from the books, which I was really
surprised about, but overall I really enjoyed it.
I feel like, like you said, season 2 felt different a lot of
ways. Like it was darker because
Susannah died, but also it wasn't summer like a lot of it
was during the school year. It was a lot during the winter.
So this felt like summer again and I feel like it'll feel more
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like that when or if they go back to Cousins.
I'm sorry. I really liked how it was just
like a different tone. I think Lola tongue is
beautiful. So I'm like, thank God they no
more no makeup belly, no more depressed belly.
She looks so good. I know she's into, she's a
beautiful girl with her without it, but I was like, she's
glowing and it was so good to just.
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We talk about that a little bit.So in Season 2, I remember doing
something about this too. Do you think they intentionally
changed her makeup to look like a little more washed out a
little more? Just depressed.
And like, not the bright and sunny belly we remember from
season 1. Exactly they did and I
completely get it, but I would just so funny with such a big
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trend on social media where they're like give her some
chapstick like give her a lip gloss please.
Like I get it, she's depressed, but you know I will it.
She definitely is back to life now.
She looks amazing and I felt really good about the the two
episodes. I feel like it was very similar
to the books in the most important ways, maybe barring
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one, which I'm not sure how that's going to flush out.
But I also think the acting was great.
Like it was so great seeing the time jump, see how everyone's
doing. And so yeah, I would say overall
I really liked it. And we're going to definitely
talk about all the Taylor Swift references, of course, but I was
just personally hoping, like Jenny Han, you have to use Laci
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by Olivia Rodrigo, like you haveto use it.
And she did. She listened, I'm sure as soon
as it came out she already had it in her mind.
But yeah, I was happy about a lot of like the music choices as
well. Yeah, totally.
OK. I want to double click on the
book differences you were talking about.
So yeah, what were those differences and how do you think
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they kind of shifted how the season is playing out?
One of the small differences that I was expecting is that she
was going, she applied to study abroad in Paris because in the
books it was supposed to be Spain.
But I kind of expected it because Season 2 in the very
beginning, she's reading the Congo games in French.
She's in French class. So I was like, OK, probably
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season 3 she's going to apply togo to Paris.
So that's a very small difference.
Another difference is Taylor andSteven weren't together in the
books. Like there was no relationship.
May I? I may be misremembering.
If I'm wrong, don't Do not crucify me.
Yeah, first let us know. I'm pretty sure they didn't have
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a relationship in the books likeso I think the whole cheating
aspect with Taylor and Steven was surprising to me, but also
made sense that that's a conversation with parallels
between Jeremiah cheating on belly.
So that was another thing that Iwas kind of expect, not
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expecting the cheating, but I was expecting there to be a
continuation of their story, butI wasn't sure how it would lead
into the car accident with Steven.
The last big difference. Oh, wait, I think one small
difference again, Conrad in therapy.
I'm I don't remember if that wasin the books, but I think it
makes so much sense. Like it makes sense also with a
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time jump and like how he is in this book makes so much sense.
But the biggest difference was in the books, I think it was
only maybe like a two year time jump.
So belly was a little bit younger.
She was like a a sophomore to one year younger.
But Jeremiah was only a junior and in the books they never had
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sex, which is kind of a big deal.
What so? Have sex with Conrad over
Christmas. Yes, so that's why in the books
it's a big point of contention later on.
Like, you know, Jeremiah at somepoint finds out and so he takes
it very personally because he's like my girlfriend of she was
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with me longer than she was evenwith Conrad.
And then she was intimate with him before being like, it's this
whole thing in the books and also ties into the cheating
aspect as well. Like it's like he cheated
because, you know, they weren't having sex the whole time they
were dating. So I thought that was, I was
hoping she would keep it straight to the books because I
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feel like maybe it's because I'ma Jeremiah hater, but I'm like,
it shows. She was so in love with Conrad.
She felt so rejected. And then she was like, OK, like
after I gave this part of me to him, we broke up very soon after
because it was like in December.And then prom, I think was very
soon after. So I thought it made a lot of
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sense in the books. But Jenny Han took it out and
they she showed it really early.She made it very clear from like
the first 5 minutes. So yeah, what do you think about
that 'cause that's a big deal. I would say it's.
A huge difference. I think it yeah, it definitely
changes the psychology of Jeremiah's decision to cheat on
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belly. I also think it definitely
changes Belly's psychology of like her choices and maybe shows
kind of how comfortable she really felt with Jer or not
comfortable maybe. And yeah, I think, OK, so it was
it was a plot point that Jeremiah finds out that Belly
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had sex with Conrad but still refuses to have sex with him.
I think that would have been a really interesting scene to see
where it's this big reveal and he's like, wait, what?
Like you're not even a virgin? What if we've been waiting for.
And like I, yeah, now that I'm, I hate her, I want to see that
like terrible plot, like come out.
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Yeah, And I won't spoil it, but the way it comes out to like the
setting in which it comes out and how it involves Conrad is
just like, so, so dramatic in the book.
So I'm like, oh, we really missed out on that scene because
then Conrad, what he does after,it's dramatic.
And it's like a big point of thebook, like the climax of the
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book comes right after that. So I'm just like, Jenny, what
are you doing? Because I definitely think she
wants to have surprises for the people who read the books as
well. But yeah, I have no idea what
she's going to do so. Interesting.
Wow. OK, OK, yeah, let's talk a
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little bit about Belly and Jeremiah in general.
So I feel like we see. Let me know if you agree with
this. I feel like we see them being
super codependent. Oh yeah.
And like she totally coddles him.
I I feel like actually he treatsher like a replacement Susanna.
That's such a good point. I didn't even think about that.
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But yeah, it's so codependent. Like it's hard to watch
sometimes, even from the very beginning.
She's like, my mom was lucky shefound Suzanne in college, but
lucky for me, I already found mysoul mate.
Like already referring to Jeremiah as her soul mate.
I guess that was what about a year into the relationship at
that point when she started college.
But then Taylor even mentioned she's like, you're always with
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Jeremiah and she's basing so many decisions off of him.
Like it's hard to watch, but it makes, it's so true in a lot of
college relationships and you can just move so quickly and
basically live together really soon.
So I'm not surprised, especiallywith how Belly's character was
in Season 2, where it just seemed like she just needed
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someone to be there for her, notnecessarily someone that was
good for her. But yeah, I it's hard.
It's a really hard watch for me,especially because, like, we've,
we've been watching these characters for so long and I
have certain attachments and I'mlike, belly, stand up for
yourself. Like, go to Paris or, you know,
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don't base your decisions off ofthis boy who doesn't even take
school seriously. Like you're gonna base your
academic decisions around him. Oh, yeah.
I don't understand. That I know, I know.
And yeah, talking about his him like not being committed to
school at all. How do you go your entire four
years without realizing you're not hitting your graduation
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requirements? Like how did you know from your
academics do you need to be for that to happen?
And he totally shrugs it off too.
He's like, it's not a big deal dad.
Like he did. I didn't see my e-mail.
Like it's really. It speaks to his character
though. Totally.
And when he tells Conrad, he says, like, his major changed
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requirements, and so he didn't hit them all.
And it's like, no, if you knew your major, you would know what
the requirements were. It was that you didn't check
when you changed majors. It's not that they changed
requirements. Yeah.
It's just like not taking accountability.
Exactly. Exactly.
And I feel like that that's another way they show the
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difference between Conrad and Jeremiah.
And I feel bad 'cause there is, of course, there's like a
complex between them where Jeremiah feels like Conrad's
perfect and he's not. But it's also like when you use
that as an excuse to continue tobe that way, then it's
completely on you. It's not anyone else's fault.
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Yeah, totally. And the way he just like fishes
for sympathy with belly and belly gives in and she's like,
I'm so sorry this happened. That's like nothing happened to
him. He did this.
I know and even I think I, I enjoyed a lot of Stevens scenes
with Belly 'cause he was very honest with her.
He was like kind of going in on Jer and he's like, that's how he
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is. Like why are you surprised?
And he also was upset that Bellydidn't.
She was kind of coddling him like you said.
So I really like that change in Steven.
I feel like before he was a verynon serious character.
He's like comedic relief. But I feel like their
relationships gotten better overthe years and it was cute seeing
them have their like their little dinner together as well.
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Yeah, that was really sweet. Yeah.
And it was also sweet how she like what?
Well, I'm skipping ahead a little bit.
But in the hospital, when he finally wakes up, she, like,
runs to him and wraps him in a hug.
I was like, oh, this is such a tougher moment between siblings
you don't really see tender moments from.
I know it was really cute and itwas so funny.
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Their parents, their parents were.
I was laughing so hard. I was just like, of course this
is going to happen when he gets into an accident.
Like Oh my gosh, Laura's going to be crazy in the next episode.
But yeah, my God. I'm enjoying the sibling bond
for sure. Yeah, OK.
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When Jeremiah and Belly are talking about the fight that
they had right before the Cabo trip and Jeremiah's like, oh,
like we broke up, blah, blah, blah.
I had such flashbacks to Logan and Rory.
Oh, I was just. Talking about friends, also
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friends. But yeah, like Logan and Rory
being like, I thought we were broken up, blah, blah, blah.
And Rory was like, we weren't broken up, you were broken up,
you know? So yeah, that was one thing.
And then the friends parallel, definitely we were on a break.
And then there was also this onescene after she takes her
passport photo and she's like coming down the steps and she
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runs into Jeremiah and he is like begging for forgiveness,
blah, blah, blah, and then gets down on both of his knees and
he's like, begging her to take him back.
And she says, you're the one person I thought could never
hurt me, and now you're the one that hurt me the most.
That's exactly how the Ross and Rachel confrontation happens
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after. Really.
Yeah. Like, he's literally on both of
his knees. He's hugging her like around her
legs while he's begging to take,for her to take him back.
And she goes, you were the one person I thought would never,
ever hurt me. And now all I can picture is you
with her. And so I was like, oh, my God.
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I I don't know if it was intentional, but they like
basically recreated that entire scene it.
Could be intentional because I feel like Jenny Han's a big, you
know, romance girly, and she loves to sprinkle references in
the crossword. A reference to herself, if you
saw that, yeah. We OK, I do wanna ask about
that, but yeah, we can add to that, yeah.
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But yeah, I think, I think it was intentional 'cause even
there are some other little Easter eggs, like there's a
picture on Belly's wall of her and Jeremiah, and they were
dressed as Laura Jean and Peter Kavinsky on Halloween in the
exact same pose. They were like wearing clothes,
look like them. So I feel like she probably, she
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did that on purpose. Oh my gosh, that's such a good
Easter egg. I I totally missed that.
It upset me so much in the book,the whole like, we were on a
break, like you are not on a break, though.
Also, the fight was so silly, like it was obviously his fault.
Yeah. And the way she apologized at
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the end and was like, I can see how you thought we were broken
up. Like I'm sorry for reacting the
way I did. That's why we're all stand up,
belly, stand up. Yes, also so you know how he
bought her that like Pooka shellbracelet basically.
Oh my gosh. I saw something on Reddit that
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was like Conrad buys her this very nice Infinity like sterling
silver necklace. Not even when they're together.
And then here we have Jared buying her a stupid fucking puka
shelled bracelet after sleeping with someone else twice.
Yeah. And I didn't, I didn't see if
she was wearing like other noticeable jewelry.
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Like if he gave her a really nice necklace, I feel like she'd
wear it all the time, just like the Infinity necklace with
Conrad. But that's what she was wearing.
It's it's so it shows that he's lazy, you know, but the whole
like we were on a break thing. Yeah, that would never fly.
It doesn't matter. It's like even if you thought
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you were truly broken up, the first thing you do is sleep with
someone. Like, no, it would be done.
It would be done so. Literally.
Yeah, I think it's just like she's disregarding it because
she's valuing like their historyover what he did to her.
And she is vulnerable with Steven.
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Like maybe if the car accident happened maybe she wouldn't have
taken them back, but I feel likeshe would have at some point.
Yeah, yeah, I know. Also, when after after like the
big blowout happens after she finds out he cheated, then you
see the text that he sent her and he says I hate myself, tell
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me what to do. And I'm like, this boy can't
even like that. This is another example of him
treating her like his mom. He's like.
Please. Just tell me what to do.
It's like no figure out what thefuck to do.
You don't meet her, the girl youcheated on to like write it out
for you. That pissed me off so much.
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He's just so immature, like he there's no, there's no
accountability like he could have, even if they didn't get
back together or if they got back together like he could have
admitted like I was, I was in a bad place.
Alcohol was not an excuse. But I cheated on you and I'll do
everything to make it up to you,but I don't deserve you anymore.
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Like, something along those lines would be way better than
what he actually said to her. He was just saying, like, like,
love bombing her the entire timeand just begging her to forgive
him. It was just like, no, that's not
enough. And if Conrad knew, oh, my gosh,
it would be over. He's like, I've been staying
away for how long? And you cheated on belly?
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Like, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, I cannot wait for
Conrad to find out. Actually, I want to see what
happens. I can't wait to 'cause I.
I don't know how it's going to look because it's going to be
different than the book. I assume at least in the in one
way, maybe it could be similar to the book, which would be very
dramatic. So we'll see.
We'll see how that comes out. Okay, okay.
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Interesting. Okay, also with the the tell me
what to do thing, it kind of reminded me of towards the end
of season 2 when she, Jeremiah, and Conrad are all driving back
from Cousins and they're on thatroad trip and Jeremiah turns to
her and he's like, are you cold?And she's like, no, I'm fine.
And then he's like, OK, whatever.
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And then Conrad just gives her his sweater without without even
looking. Up.
Yeah, it's. Like, no, like just just do what
she needs. She's I think she was shivering.
It's like she's obviously cold. Take action.
Don't ask her that's. Always been a thing with them
though. It's like Jenny Han's always
showing how her connection with Conrad is so just like, easy and
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natural even like. That that.
Whole car ride scene even after with like her favorite snacks,
like Conrad always knows what she wants.
And then even when they were doing that late night study
session, when they were throwingthe McDonald's burgers, when he
threw it to Jerry, he kind of like Hot Pocket, like hot
potatoed it a little bit and then kind of caught it.
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And then Conrad didn't even lookit up and he caught it.
It was so effortless. And that was like another way
for her to show that. So that's throughout the whole
series. Honestly, Jenny is team Conrad.
She likes to pretend she threw in delicate last season to give
the Jeremiah fans a crumb, but she's always been team Conrad.
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Like, I feel like from the beginning, it's very obvious.
In the trailer alone, the trailer loving him was red.
Come on. Yeah, Belly's wearing red.
And so many of the promo videos and pictures.
Oh yeah. That's true and obviously.
Christmas. Of course it's Christmas, but
she was wearing like head to toered when Conrad showed up at the
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door. And I was like, that's so true.
What was it? Her pajama outfit?
That's like fully red. Yeah.
Cute. I can't wait to talk.
About that, I was like, no, they're feeding us.
They're feeding us. After the gross montage with
Jeremiah, I'm like, I don't wantto see that.
OK, let me see if there was anything else about Jerry.
I wanted to talk Jeremiah, not Jer Shalini that I.
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Wanted to talk. About let him go. 01 thing.
That I think I will say Belly has always been very good at is
not is like standing up for herself in the moment when
Jeremiah is trying to bring her into his drama with Conrad.
Like in season 2. I think after the party,
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Jeremiah is like, you're doing the same thing you always do,
like you're giving up just like you gave a belly.
And then she's like, don't use me to get at him.
And then this season he's sayinglike, Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not
like perfect Conrad. And she's like, don't put your
inferiority complex on me. I really I'm I'm glad she said
that. That was like the one moment she
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stood up for herself. Yeah, no, I.
I I completely agree. Like exactly those two examples.
Wait, I have a question for you.Oh.
After. Your Season 2 rewatch 'cause you
said, like you kind of, you could see the Jeremiah appeal
while you're watching. Do you feel like now knowing
what he did in Cabo, does that change your opinion at all about
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him? I think.
It does change my opinion. I, I do still think like in
season 2, they showed Conrad to be like such an annoying little
bitch honestly, in so many scenes where he's like being
really petty and like snarky andstuff that I do think in season
2. I, I definitely think that
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Jeremiah was a made way more sense as a choice for her in
season 2. But I do think it just shows
that Jeremiah as a character doesn't have a lot of depth or
critical thinking. And like, now I think seeing how
it plays in in college where he cheats on her, it's just like,
oh, he's always just living in the moment.
He's not like, cherishing memories with her.
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He's not thinking about the future with her.
He's just kind of like always inthe moment, which is maybe what
she needed in the season 2. But like, definitely just isn't
a good forever person. Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense. And I I totally agree.
I think we talked about it, but season 2, she just wanted
someone to like be there for her, especially after Suzanne is
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like ripped from her life. And so, so was Conrad.
And even though I always felt like their connection was easier
and they have such a shock, her and Conrad had such a strong
connection that you can see in so many different scenes.
I could see Jeremiah really prioritized her and I don't
think she felt that from him in that moment.
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But also Conrad, he like he doesn't want to disappoint
anyone. He always holds it in.
I'm like, don't hold it in. Tell her how you feel.
So it really it's like it, it's true to their personalities.
But I feel like season 3 and like the the third book, you see
how it changes over time, like how those behaviors before have
changed and now this is like whothey are.
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But I feel like it's very telling.
Boo am IA Boo, we hate you not. Gavin though, Gavin, we love
you. Oh, but there's.
T thirsty with the cast cause did you see that the past Gavin
got married within the past yearand he didn't invite any of the
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cast? He didn't.
No. And also they were doing some
type of promo last year. I I don't know if it was for the
show or they were filming, but they were being interviewed and
it just seemed like Lola and Chris were very uncomfortable
around Gavin and it people thinkit's because he is a Trump
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supporter, not to bring politicsinto the Yap podcast, but yeah.
So I feel like, 'cause last yearwas just like there was so much
going on in the world and I think he made his stance very
known. And Lola and Chris are like very
like outspoken about being on the opposite side.
So I think that's why there's tension.
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I haven't seen it in their promoyet this season, but I
definitely there was like a really awkward interview from
last year where it was very clear they were just sitting so
far away from him. Was like, Oh my gosh, you guys
have to get it together for Season 3.
But I don't see any of it now. Season 3 is good so far, but
yeah, that's isn't that crazy that is.
Crazy. Oh my God, I cannot be married
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and not. Inviting anyone.
I feel like this is like your claim to fame and people you've
worked with so many times and they were so close Season 1 and
2. So yeah, I think that's probably
why. Damn, what happened?
That reminds me, the actor that plays Christopher in Gilmore
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Girls is also like a huge misogynist Trump supporter, no?
Christopher Why? I know.
But not loop. I don't think.
Scott, I don't think, I don't think we know what Scott
Patterson's opinions are. Well, maybe he's publicized
them. I personally don't know but
apparently I'm forgetting Christophers real name.
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But yeah, he's made it very public.
Mystic. It's like, do you even know
what? Show you were on and what the
audience was. You know, more reasons to hate.
Christopher. Exactly, exactly.
I'm a big Christopher hater too.One thing that has annoyed me is
I feel like the actress, Lola and Gavin have so much
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chemistry. I'm like, can you guys tone it
down when you make out? Because it's like so passionate
each time. And I feel like that also feeds
the Jeremiah like train. And I feel like Lola and Chris,
like they're really good friends, but I feel like they're
more respectful because he has, he's had a girl for the entire
time they've been filming and Lola's really good friends with
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her. And the girlfriend kind of looks
like her if I do say so. That's so funny 'cause.
Gavin's wife looks like so similar to belly too.
I know I'm like. You guys casted it a little bit
too well. And Chris Bryony's girlfriend's
name is Isabella. It's like belly.
Yeah, I know. Oh, my God.
I'm. Crazy, that's something I've.
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Always noticed like their kissesup since season 1 have always
been like super passionate. I'm like season 3, we need to
see it. Like I need to see, I feel like
they always have had really great chemistry together, but I
want to see like more of that chemistry on screen because I
feel like season 3, there's going to be a lot of
opportunities where they spend time together, which you'll see.
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And I just like, even even though I feel like Jeremiah and
Belly have had better like physical chemistry, at least
from the show, the scenes that like make me kick my feet up and
blush are always like Conrad andBelly when they're chatting.
Like even season 2, like the thelittle moments they would have
together would always be so cute.
And all the the flashbacks were so cute.
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When I was watching the trailer,I felt more from that candy cane
moment where he was at the door than all of the montages of
Belly and Jeremiah like completely.
It's such a big difference. So I'm really excited to see
that and I'm, I'm excited to seewhat they do with Jeremiah's
character because I do agree with you.
Like he can be a little bit one-dimensional, but there's no
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reason he should because there'slike his family dynamic, his
dynamic with his brother, his relationship with his mom and
like the role he's played in thegroup is kind of like cheering
everyone up. So I feel like we, I I'm excited
to see what we see from him thisseason.
Even though I don't like him, I feel like acting wise, there
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could be really, he could take really cool, like choices and
scenes. Yeah, yeah.
I know, I'm very excited to see.I can't wait for the fallout
from all of this. All right, let's finally get
into Belly and Conrad. Yay.
I can't wait. OK.
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So I guess. There one big scene together was
the Christmas scene. Yeah.
I guess just overall thoughts. How did you feel about it?
Let's get into it. Uh huh.
I was so. Excited to see it.
Ever since the trailer, like I mentioned, like I just got
butterflies when he's at the door with the candy cane.
And then of course, like she's covered in chocolate and she's
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shocked. But I thought it was so sweet
that they had that was those moments.
And it was very innocent. But Belly was like, we spent the
whole day together, but not together.
But they did spend it together. They were like, it shows how
comfortable they are. Like I feel like Jeremiah is
very much the kind of person he likes to fill silence.
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Like he finds silence to be awkward because he's such a like
activities, you know, driven person.
But Belle and Conrad, like, theycan just like be in a
comfortable silence together. They can do their own thing.
They can be independent in the same space, which is very
telling that that's like a more healthy relationship, in my
opinion. And also the last time they were
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there at the same time was when they had sex, which is so crazy.
Like when he was like, maybe I should light a fire and they had
the brief flashback. I was like, the editors are
actually diabolical for including that.
But that's what I would be thinking about, too.
It's like the last time we were here together was when I lost my
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virginity. Like that's such a huge deal.
But I thought it was very sweet.And the the text after when she
was like locked up and with the the little animation, I was just
like, she's just keeping in how much that meant to her and he's
doing the same. But I thought, I thought they
did it perfectly. Like, that's how I would have
wanted to see it from the books for sure, yeah.
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Totally. I thought it was super realistic
for both of their characters andtheir history for that to be
like how that day went and for both of them to be like
courteous to each other but obviously not wanting to be too
close. So just kind of doing their own
thing, but like, light and fun. And yeah, I think it's
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absolutely shows how comfortablethey can be in each other's
presence without needing to fillsilence.
And I also think it was a great example of, like, what their
future life could look like. Kind of where they're just, you
know, he's doing the crossword and she's watching a movie or
reading a book or whatever. And just like how comfortable
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they are around each other and because they're so nerdy.
Too, And I feel like that's something maybe in other
relationships, like their partner could make fun of, you
know, like I could so see Jeremiah, like, stop reading.
Let's do something, you know? But Belly is honestly, I would
say, pretty introverted. And she loves like these
specific activities. She seems just like so at peace
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and Conrad's the same. So I felt like it shows like
they're so compatible. Like it's right there.
You guys just look up. But yeah, I loved it.
I loved every second of it. And I I forget which movie they
were watching, but they when when they were arguing on who
should be with the main, the lead, the lead actress in it.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, of course it's another love
triangle. And do you did you remember what
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movie they were watching? No, I don't.
I wonder. If we can look it up quickly.
I'm also really bad with old movies so I probably have no
idea, but I would bet that Conrad was arguing for the lead
that's more more similar to him.She loves to put love triangles
in it and. I have.
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A, a side thing that I noticed, it was, it was earlier on in, I
think it was in Episode 1 when Jeremiah and Belly were talking
about her major 'cause she's majoring in sports psychology or
sports psychology or sports therapy, something like that.
But I wrote it down 'cause I thought it was a good one.
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So Belly was saying something about like, Oh yeah, if it
weren't for my injury. Like, it's crazy how one choice
could end up shaping your whole future.
And then Jeremiah says without it, you wouldn't have found
sports psychology. And Belly says, I think I would
have, it just would have taken me longer to get there.
And I was like, come on, That's so about Conrad.
Like it's so like she it's like they were always end game.
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But whether she stayed with him maybe in like book 2 or gets
together with him later on, likeit was always going to be them.
And I feel like that's somethingsince season 1, even their mom
would say like it was always going to be you and Conrad.
So I just thought, like Jenny, Jenny's like putting these right
in front of us, yes. Oh, that's so good.
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Yeah. She.
He's like, you wouldn't have found it.
And she's like, I would have. It just would have taken me
longer. It's like it's it's like a Dare
Jeremiah thing to say. And then it's such a good Easter
egg for what's to come. So good.
Hopefully. Who knows?
Who knows what Jenny Hanna's gonna do?
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Hopefully. OK, let's talk about the
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crossword in in the Christmas episode.
So you were saying that that's acall back to Jenny Hahn?
Yes, 'cause it the the prompt was Jenny Hahn, like best
selling author Jenny Hahn, PSI Blank Love you and it was her
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book PSI Still Love You. I don't know if that was one of
the semi called pretty books or it's yeah, I think it was to all
the boys. I think it's to all the boys.
OK, OK. Oh, I didn't realize it, but she
and she wrote. Still, did you notice?
That Conrad had written still and erased it.
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No, stop. No, I'm not, Scream.
You wrote her so. Freaking.
Cute. She.
Rewrote. Over in.
Did she write in? Pen.
Or was it pencil? Imagine his pen pencil.
But yeah, she. Still loves him.
It was so cute and he. Still loves her and he did the
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rest they. Did the rest of the crossword
right. He's so dramatic erasing it.
He's so dramatic. But that was a cute like nod to
her her other books, because also the name of this book, I'm
pretty sure it it was it's not summer without you.
And that was Laurel's book in season 2 about Susanna.
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So there's like a little crossover.
Yes, I. Noticed that too.
I when when I saw the name of Laurel's book, I was like, oh, I
think this is one of the books about this show.
But yeah. OK, so is that book 3 or is that
book 2? I'm pretty sure that's.
Book 3 it's not summer that you but let me look it up right now.
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Just so we know I do have something else on jar.
Why did he get your losing me? Why did he get your losing me?
That was the only Taylor song. We got this set of episodes
right. No, there's a few.
I thought, really? Wait, is it the only one?
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I was I was trying. To write down the songs as they
came up. And I think that was the only
one. That was the only. 1 Yeah,
you're right. Oh, also you're right.
It's not Summer without You as asecond book.
The third book is We'll Always Have Summer.
Oh. OK, OK, cool.
The only other song that I wrotedown besides Lacey and You're
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Losing me was I Wish I Hated Youby Are You?
Oh my gosh. That was perfect for that.
Also the Call Me by Your Name song, I was like, Jenny, you
need to go to jail. You need to stop.
God, I know, I know. That was so good.
And that's the first song that she.
And. Conrad have together I think in
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this season so good. Oh my God.
She needs to. What's that song called?
Mystery of Love by Sufjan Stevens.
Yes. Yes, that's the song she gave
for Belly and Conrad. Yes.
A great song. OK, the last belly Conrad thing
I had was that the scene where she falls off the stairs and is
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on her back, actually no second to last thing.
She's on her back looking up, and then you see like Conrad's
face hovering above her so that.So.
Cute and mirrors 1 scene into all the boys I loved before.
Yes. Scene in.
XO Kitty where? Oh my gosh.
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Were. Was here when she when.
She's on the track, Yes, when she's.
On the track. Oh, this is so good.
Oh, that's so perfect. I don't remember.
The XO Kitty scene. XO Kitty, I don't remember when.
No idea, I have no. Idea when she did that she was
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so dramatic, so it could have happened any episode, but that's
so cute the parallel. I also for that scene.
I thought it reminded me of the notebook when they were both
laying down and it was kind of like the view above that if
you're a bird, I'm a bird, but not wasn't it if you're a bird,
I'm a bird, but it's the one where they were laying in the
street in the notebook totally forgot about.
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That kind of reminded me. Of that too.
But I was just like, of course he would get down and lay with
her. I know.
Like he loves me so much. It was so cute.
But also, why did she fall like that?
How did she fall? She was like so worried that he
had left I. Know and he was like no, I'm
still here still here and. Then also in that scene he had
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very wet hair and I was wondering if you think that he
did that on purpose because he knows that she finds wet hair
romantic. Romantic.
That is so true. Maybe, I don't know.
I always feel like he just lookslike extra hot when they're not
together and I don't know why. It's just like the flirty banter
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between them is so good. Like the one liners he had in
season 2. Like when he was like I thought
Coco was your specialty. I was like he did not need to
say that. He did not say that so.
Diabolical and Jeremiah doesn't.Even know he has he has like no
idea the references that they have together.
But that's a good point. I feel like knowing him, he
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wouldn't though. He wouldn't do that.
That's. True.
Even though he like, loves her, I think he just got out of the
shower. Yeah, he would.
He would never intentionally tryto woo her while she's with her.
Yeah. Yeah, well, we'll see.
I'm kidding. We'll see.
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I enjoyed every single moment they had.
I thought it was super cute. And also I have Conrad specific
things like when he was talking to his friend about July 4th, I
was like my heart July 4th music, everyone was so happy so
I had to be happy. Oh, it shows how he also like
always puts people's happiness before his.
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And I completely forgot that he never told her that he loves her
even in that painful season 2. Like second to last episode
where he's like, I thought you knew.
That was such a good like iconicscene for both of them.
Good. So good.
But I just. Feel like in every single book
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like Belly never knew how much he really cared about her.
That's fully on him. But she doesn't even know.
She doesn't even know to this day.
It was so sad. He was reminiscing about it like
he's down and. He got fired.
I know, 400. I loved hearing his recounting
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of their relationship from his point of view, 'cause I feel
like we never really got to see that.
And I thought it was really revealing how, you know, in
Season 2, she tells Susanna thathe broke up with her, but it's
not really true 'cause he never says anything, really.
She's just like, if you're not gonna say it, I will like you,
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we're breaking up, you don't want to be with me, blah, blah,
blah. And then he's like, wait, belly,
wait. And then she's like, no, like
don't even say anything, blah, blah, blah.
So like, technically he did not break up with her.
But I liked that he admitted that nuance to his friend Agnes.
Or he was like technically she broke up with me but I really
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laid out all of the groundwork for her to do it.
Like it was it was definitely onme even though I wasn't the 1.
So I loved that very self aware admittance from him.
Or therapy. Therapy yes Conrad after like
Conrad post therapy is so great.So I really like that.
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I also loved hearing just everything about the
relationship from how it startedlike just everything from his
point of view. It was so cute that like.
You're, you're falling asleep like how we describe falling in
love with her. Beautiful.
It was always there. And then a scale of 1 to 10.
It was a 10. Like, seeing him be so openly
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emotional about it was really sweet.
But the fact that it's like 4 years later and it's still such
a sore spot for him. Like, he couldn't even tell his
therapist that about when he wastalking about his best case
scenario, that he couldn't even say Belly's name to his
therapist. And I was like, Oh my gosh, this
poor boy. Yeah.
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But yeah, I completely forgot about the Christmas moment from
the books, 'cause I had, I read it two years ago.
I can't believe two years. Like, I don't know how anyone
else has waited because I truly could not have waited that long.
But I I thought it was so sweet how he was saying like, I just
could not spend any time alone with her or I would have told
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her how I felt. And I feel like that was like a
theme before to like there were moments where he almost told
her, like his mom was sick in the first episode, but then he
got interrupted by someone like he was, he's always felt like
very vulnerable and safe with him with her.
And he knows himself. He's like, I can't be around her
because I need to respect that, you know, it didn't work out
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with us and her relationship with my brother.
So yeah, I felt bad. Konrad was really annoying at so
many times. But end of Season 2, I felt so
bad when he was like sliding down the the the wall, listening
to Exile. I was like, Oh yeah, I stopped
the. Motel, OH.
Like, and they just lost their mom weeks ago.
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I was like, Bella, you're evil. You're evil.
Why did you do this? Poor Conrad.
I know. OK.
The last topic I wanted to talk about was Steven and Taylor,
which we haven't really spent any time.
Oh my gosh. Oh my God.
First of all, I love Steven's like Korean Gen.
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Z haircut, thank God. People were some people were
hating on it and I was like, I think it looks better.
Yeah, it's better. It's cute.
There's some sort of perm? Situation going on, Yeah, and it
makes sense. Like he would he would go to
college and be like, let me change my look up, you know?
And also Taylor looks cute without the bangs.
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I feel like she's looking good. Yes, love her.
Without the but. I can't believe like the total
cheating thing. Like it also it makes sense for
their characters honestly because like she is very like
protective of herself since the beginning of how they started
and I feel like Steven is just like he'll do whatever she wants
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honestly. But it makes me sad because they
have really great chemistry together.
Like you can see they have smallsweet moments together too, but
then they're just like in each other's way.
So when she was going to tell him that she broke up with
Davis, I felt so bad that her face just dropped.
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But I get it, 'cause Steven was like, this is a sign from the
universe. I literally got hit by a car
when we were fighting. So I don't know.
I have a feeling because I don'tknow what's gonna happen with
them, 'cause this wasn't in the books as far as I remember.
I have a feeling there might be something with his Co worker
like the Co worker like they're keeping there's.
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No reason she should. Be that hot.
Like she's gorgeous. I'm like, they're not going to
invest in an actress that's thatgorgeous if they're not going to
have a whole. Like she took her glasses off
and her hair was down. She was beautiful the whole
time. Like, I feel like there's going
to be a moment like that, but I don't know how I feel about that
because I do like Steven and Taylor, yeah.
I agree. I think I was, I was really
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surprised by their cheating plotline.
I I guess I was not surprised that Taylor was cheating on
someone with Steven, but I was surprised that Steven was
cheating on someone with Taylor because I feel like he's always
been like pretty morally grounded as a character.
And yeah, so that that did kind of surprise me.
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But yeah, I think it's totally fair for him after his car
accident to be like, I need to finally let you go, especially
because he doesn't know what howshe was feeling at the time.
But yeah, I agree, I hope they find their way back to each
other. They're really sweet.
But I would also understand if if Steven moves on with someone
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else. Yeah, it yeah, let's see,
because it could also be like anexample of like a cycle that
doesn't work and they use as a comparison with like Belle and
Jeremiah or Belle and Conrad. But yeah, I really don't know
that that's a big unknown for me.
But I'm glad at least like if there's no more moments between
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them this season that they had like a lot of cute moments this
past two episodes, but I feel like they didn't get closure.
So I feel like there's there's probably gonna be more Taylor's
a but a much better friend. Now that's one more note I wrote
like season 3. She's like at the hospital with
belly and like she is telling belly when she's not
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prioritizing herself and she's being Co dependent on her
relationship. So I really like that character
growth from her because season 1I was like, this is a horrible
friend. Like why is she Why is she
friends with this girl? And it started to get a lot
better in the last season. But I love that growth.
But I also loved when she told off Jeremiah.
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I loved her. Outside so much.
And at the same time I also lovethat Jeremiah called out Taylor
for also cheating and like he was like, oh, now you care about
like loyalty to a partner because I think that it it's so
it's so true that like when the tables are turned back on you,
you're like, oh, wait, whoa, yeah, I'm doing the same thing.
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But she was she was so comfortable, like telling off
Jeremiah so strongly. And then she was like, whoa, I
need to check myself. I'm also doing that.
Yeah. Yeah, I love, I love that
moment. She was kind of like the
president of the Jelly fan club.So for her to have this moment,
I think, was so telling. But then, of course, you know,
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she saw how vulnerable Belly was.
And she was like, if you're going to get back together with
him, just do it. Like, I don't know what Belly
would have done if she didn't say that.
I feel like that kind of gave her, like, the seal of approval
from her best friend. But I love that she was the one
to call Conrad. And Conrad was like, I'm going
to talk to someone. And then he helps her get a
better doctor. I was just like, Taylor, It's
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right there. Like Taylor, he's a better
choice for her. He makes things happen.
Another. Example of Jeremiah, Jeremiah
waiting for Belly to tell him what to do and Conrad just
taking care of business. Exactly.
I feel like Stevens definitely team Conrad, which we saw last
season, so we'll see how that pans out.
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But I don't even know. Will Steven find out that
Jeremiah cheated? Like, I don't know how that's
gonna look. Yeah.
He starts to talk about the factthat Jeremiah proposed because
that's crazy. Oh my God, Yeah.
Wait, I can't believe we didn't talk about that.
That proposal was psychotic. He didn't even get down on with
me. Like, what is going on?
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Yeah. No, he didn't get down with me.
At least in the book he had a ring so he didn't even have a
ring for her. But Belly and I are getting
married. I love that.
But yeah. And she knew the fact she knew
what he was going to say. I was like, any normal person
would have been shocked, especially like, I guess not any
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normal person, but knowing theirbackgrounds, like where they are
in the US to, it's not normal for people to get married in
college. So for her, the fact that she
was already like, yes, like, I already know my answer.
I was like, girl, you're embarrassing me.
Stop. I would have been like.
What the fuck? I would be like stop.
(57:37):
Like stand up right now please. That reminds me, did.
You watch how I got your mother yes, that scene where Robin
thinks Ted is proposing to her, but he's not.
They just like accidentally got someone else's ring and she's
like no, no, no, no, no, Ted, you can't do this to me.
No, no, no. He's like he.
Counts it. He counts the amount of nose
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exactly. That's how it should have been.
That's how belly should have reacted.
But yes. After he cheat like.
After he found he cheated on you.
No, that's not how it's supposedto be like this.
That's so crazy. They're not ready for the
fallout, which, you know, there's going to be fallout.
Yeah. What do you think?
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What do you think the reactions are going to be like?
How do you think Conrad will react?
How do you think Taylor and Laurel will react to Conrad?
Will. Kind of just like shut down and
like pretend and just be like Congrats Jer, whatever.
But inside he'll be obviously like super sad if he finds out
about the cheating. He's going to fucking punch
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Jeremiah in the face and I'm ready for it.
I think actually I saw a trailerfor Season 3 when Laurel is
reacting to finding out about the proposal and she's like,
you're way too young to do this or something.
So yeah, I think that's a very logical reaction.
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And that is the reaction she should have.
I feel like Taylor will all. I I hope that everyone in their
life is like, why? Like, what are you doing and
why? Yeah, I think.
Maybe the only person who would be supportive is Taylor, but
just because she's like, that's my best friend.
If that's what she wants, like, I'll be there for her.
But yeah, it's Stevens going to be also, I feel like a big
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voice. Like, what are you doing?
He doesn't even know about the cheating.
But I think he has already been concerned about the
relationship, so I can so see him saying something.
So the doctor seen it was very much Grey's Anatomy, like the
first day of work when she was like, don't ask me stupid
questions, like, blah, blah, blah.
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I was like, this is just borrowing Grey's Anatomy right
now. Yeah, so true the.
The only last thing I put is, Ohyeah, when Belly was upset about
Jeremiah cheating and she was like, now like, how am I going
to go to Cousins this summer? Like I have a part time job
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there, but I can't do it becauseJeremiah.
And then I can't go to Susanna'smemorial anymore because of
Jeremiah. And I was just like.
No, like you should still do these things, even if especially
the memorial. Why would you not go when it has
nothing to do with this? I was just like seeing her kind
of like her. Her world revolves around him,
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which is just I really hope we get that growth from belly this
season, which I feel like will be hard because she's literally
engaged now and it's all going to be about him.
But yeah, I really want us to have that moment because I feel
like I do have like a love hate relationship with belly too,
where I'm like, you keep doing these crazy things and I can't
justify it. Queen.
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I'm sorry. Like making out with your ex
boyfriend's brother on his car wearing his sweatshirt.
I have nothing to say to that, truly.
No, literally. I know I also have a love hate
relationship with Belly, but I, yeah, I I'm still rooting for
her and I hope, I hope she findshappiness and I hope it's not
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with Jeremiah me. Too, But I hope she doesn't
choose herself only. Like, please, please, Jenny Han,
please don't make that the ending that we're not expecting,
because we're also expecting that, don't you?
Literally. I will riot.
I was going to riot end of season 2 when she was like the
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future's unclear but it's still mine.
I'm like Jenny, don't please. Sometimes so cringe.
Exactly. But yeah, those are all my
notes, but I'm really excited. Do you know when episodes come
out? Is it every Monday or is there a
specific day every new? Wednesday.
I believe every Wednesday. OK, yes, that's gonna go until
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like basically the end of the summer, I think, because it'll
be 10 episodes. Yeah, it's. 11 episodes this
time. Oh yeah.
OK, good. And I hope one of the episodes
longer 'cause yeah, well, I hopeso too.
Well. Maybe it doesn't need?
To be longer and we'll see, but there's a lot that's gonna
happen I just hope there's not afiller episode 'cause I feel
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like kind of the gate. The arcade episode last season
was a filler, and there were a lot of cute moments where it
showed like relationships with the boys.
But I felt like that was a filler episode.
And then when they like stayed overnight in the golf course, I
was just like, I'm. Not getting anything.
Out of this. Stupid, yeah.
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But then they came back and their house was empty and I was
like, oh, see, we'll see. Maybe I need to reread the book
or I kind of want to just be surprised because it has been a
while and I'm like being surprised by what's going on,
but I'm surprised at how much I also remembered.
But Belly and Jeremiah never having sex in the books is a big
deal. So that one I was really, like,
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different. So I don't know what Jenny Han's
cooking up, but I'm excited. This is these are my summer
plans for the rest of the summer.
Awesome. Well, at the end of every Benji
app repeat episode, we generallyrate the season, but I guess we
can do ratings of the season so far.
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So Aliano, what would you rate the season so far?
I would rate. It I'll say 9 so far I'm really
happy with it, but I need my girls to have more of a backbone
so that's the only reason I'm saving that last point.
What about you? I was also.
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Going to give it a 9 or maybe a 9.5.
I thought, yeah, I like I for some reason, anytime there's a
new season of some of a show that I love, I'm always afraid
it's just going to feel different and like I'm going to
notice that it's a completely new season shot in a different
year. But I thought it flowed so well
and the little details in the show were amazing.
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I'm really enjoying it so far. My like, my emotions were so
strong watching both of the episodes.
So yeah, 9.5 I would say that's.It I would also agree that 9.5
the .5 for the music alone because lazy, if lazy wasn't in
it we would have had an issue for sure.
So yeah. And that's one of the best parts
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of the show, too, is that they invest so much in the music for
for each episode. So I'm excited to see what the
next Taylor reference is. Yeah.
Me too. OK.
And our last segment is called Binge in Progress, where we just
talk about the other media we'reconsuming, other TV shows we're
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watching, if you're reading any good books.
So Ayana, what are you binging right now?
Because I was on vacation, I'm behind on Love Island, so I'm
watching the last episode of Love Island now.
That's the last thing I I started watching.
And is there anything else? Nothing else right now, but I
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want to watch that new show thatI saw.
You have an episode like K Pop Hunters or something like that?
Yeah. K Pop Demon Hunters.
It's a movie. It's a movie.
Well, I really want to watch that next because it looks
interesting, but I need something soon because Love
Island has been consuming my life the past six weeks.
So yeah, I need something soon. But I'm definitely gonna watch
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the Beyond the Villa too. Like, even though it kind of
looks really like planned, I still love the cast from last
season, so I'm gonna watch that for sure.
Me too. All fun.
What about you? I just started this new show
called We Were Liars, which actually oh, I watched it.
Kind of. Oh, you.
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Did OK OK. I think I'm on episode 4 or
something. It's like kind of the summer I
turn Pretty meets like dark mystery mystery.
Yeah, I love the vibes of it. I don't feel anything for the
characters, unfortunately. Like, I think they're all pretty
hateable. They're all hateable and which I
think matches the premise of theshow, but I do remember it was
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really popular in like the 20 tens and I never read it.
It's like been on my list for a while but I definitely am not as
attached as I am to like the summer I turned pretty.
Me too. Awesome.
Well, Alyona, thank you so, so much for being a guest on this
episode. Your insights were so valuable
because I've never read the bookbefore and you pay such close
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attention when you watch the show, so thank you so much
yappers. Probably going to do the finale
as well or probably just like the whole season after the
finale comes out. But if you want a season
midpoint episode also let us know.
Open to doing that. I haven't asked Alyana about
this ahead of it I bought a mic for.
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This so I'm down. Let me know, right?
Awesome. Well, Alyana, thank you so much
for being here. Thank you.
Shalini, thanks for yapping. With us, if you loved this
episode, have some hot takes we missed, or if you've got a show
you're dying for us to binge next, follow us on socials we're
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at Binge Yapp. Repeat until next.
Time. Happy bingeing.
Happy summer yappers. Today's episode is all about the
summer I turn pretty Season 3 episodes one and two.
We break down all of the plot points between Belly and
Jeremiah, as well as Belly and Conrad.
That crossword identify some keydifferences between the books
and the show and talk through all of the Easter eggs that
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Jenny Hahn has blessed us with so far this season.
Oh, and let the record show, we are Team Conrad in this
household. Let's get into it, yappers.
Hello fellow yappers. I'm Ruchi and I'm Shalini and
we're your hosts. A binge, yap, repeat.
We're two best friends who spendan embarrassing amount of time
binge watching TV and honestly, we just need to talk about it.
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If you're here, we're guessing you do too.
Fair warning, this is a spoiler friendly zone.
We will be discussing lots of spoilers.
So if you haven't watched the show yet, hit pause, go binge,
and come back when you're ready to yap with us.
And now it's yap time. Hi Yappers, welcome to another
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episode of Binge Yap Repeat. I am joined today by my dear
friend Aliana. She and I are actually Co
workers and in 2023 we were working together on a project
and we bonded over our obsessionwith the Summer I Turn Pretty.
So I thought who better to bringon as a guest for our Summer I
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Turn Pretty series. Welcome, Aliana.
Thank you, I'm so excited to be on the show.
I've been a fan for a while and also I don't know if I'm
remembering correctly but I feellike I'm the one who told you to
watch the summer I turn Pretty. Maybe not.
We so we talked about Season 2 together, but I think I had
maybe decided not to watch season 2 or something.
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And you were like, no, no, no, you have to watch it.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, OK. OK, perfect.
OK, that that makes sense. And Season 2, I feel, I'm sure
we'll talk to you about it, but like, Season 2 is so different
from Season 1 tone wise. And also I feel like everyone
just kind of levelled up with the acting.
The script was a lot better, a lot less cringy.
So you picked a good season to get back into it?
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Or like you picked a good seasonnot to stop watching?
Yeah. I agree.
And I remember, I guess going back to season 2, I remember
because the episodes came out one by one.
I was like, oh, the season just like feels different.
It feels so dark and not a lot it.
Doesn't feel like summer. Yeah it doesn't feel like summer
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but then I in preparation for this season I went back and
binged re binge seasons one and two and I thought season 2
actually floats so much better as a binge than like a week by
week episode thing. Yeah I agree and I also did the
same exact thing. I rewatched both, but I I don't
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I think season 1 it all came outonce because it was a new show
and then because it was so popular they decide to do season
2. But I feel like they they did a
good job with season 2. The rollout.
I think they did like the first 3 episodes all released on the
first day and then weekly. But of course the first 3
episodes it's like you catch up on the timeline.
It's like Belly and Conrad and prom and I'm like I can't wait.
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I need to know what happens next.
So. I know, I know.
I'm not ready for the season. No one's ready.
And I read the books and I'm notready so.
That's right, yes. OK.
I was going to ask you about just your history with the
Summer I Turn pretty. So you have read the books.
You've read all of them. Yes.
So I started watching. It was, it was funny, 'cause
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it's kind of a full circle moment.
I started watching it when I first moved into my apartment
with my roommate in New York. And we were watching like on the
floor, phone stand, like no furniture.
And then we got obsessed with itand it became this whole huge
thing. And now for the last season,
it's just when we moved out. So we're like, Oh my gosh, we're
not watching it together. And it's summer.
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Like we're trying to coordinate.Like maybe we can watch the
finale or something together. But after last season, season 2,
that horrible ending, cause of course I'm team Conrad.
Like that ending, I was like, I cannot wait one year to know how
this ends. Like I cannot wait.
And good thing I didn't because I'm SAG after we had to wait two
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years for it. So I read all of the books like
that week because I was like, I just have to know.
So that's why I read the books. I didn't even read the books
before the show came out. It was just like I cannot wait.
I need to know. I was happy with how it ended.
That's all I'll say. OK, OK, interesting.
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But who knows what Jenny Han will do, because maybe Belly
will choose himself and I'm shutting the TV off if she does.
Like, absolutely not. No, literally same I was.
I was reading stuff that about how Jenny Han was saying that
the ending no one can expect or like no one will expect the
actual ending to the show and I was.
Like what? Don't say How could.
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It be that different. It's either Conrad or Jeremiah
or neither and I feel like I'll be upset if it's anyone but
Conrad. I will admit rewatching season 2
I actually started becoming teamJeremiah.
I don't. Say it, but I get it.
I get it, but don't say it. I know, I know.
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I was actually quite ashamed. But I think in season 2, they
they just, I think that's what the viewer is supposed to feel a
little bit. If you haven't seen or if you
haven't read the books, you're supposed to feel that like, OK,
Conrad was not giving Belly whatshe needs, but Jer is kind of
the steady, happy, like positiveforce.
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You're calling him Jer. You're on the right side.
Actually, no, but if that's that's totally what it is, I
feel like she's like the first book you kind of get to know
them as like a family, two families and all the characters.
Like you don't really, I guess you can find a team, but it's
not really like a strong way on each side.
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Yeah, I think really honestly show Jeremiah that much in
season 1. It's like all.
Exactly. And then episode 2, Book 2, it's
more Jeremiah because it's like,I think they have this
friendship and he's what she needs at the time.
Like she feels so rejected. And I think for some of the
wrong reasons too, that's why she ends up with Jeremiah
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because she's like, I just can'tgo through rejection.
And I want to be close to someone who cares about me.
So it makes so much sense. And I think Conrad knows like
he's not ready emotionally to bewith her even though he cares so
much about her. But book 3's Conrad is all I'm
gonna say. It's a lot of Jeremiah too.
But I would say you get you get a lot more perspective from
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Conrad. And in the book at a point it is
from his POV. So I'll see if he gets an
episode. I would love to hear him like
narrating. That would be really cool.
This. Season amazing.
OK, OK. I'm excited for that.
I feel like that's very possiblebecause in season 2 we got a
Jeremiah POV episodes. Yes, I remember that.
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Yeah, OK, well let's get started.
So today we are yapping all about the Summer I Turn Pretty
Season 3 episodes one and two that just dropped this past
Wednesday, July 16th. So far this season we've seen a
time jump of about four years since the end of season 2.
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So Belly is now finishing her junior year at Finch.
Jeremiah is a senior who is not graduating and Conrad is a first
year Med student at Stanford. We find out that Belly and
Conrad haven't really seen each other much since season 2 aside
from the occasional family reunion and a stealthy Christmas
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hang, and that she and Jeremiah have been pretty much going
strong for basically four years.We do find out that on a spring
break trip, Jeremiah cheated on Belly with a girl named Lacey
and that Steven has been in a serious car accident after a
fight with Taylor Aliana. What were your overall thoughts
for these two episodes? I think they did a great job.
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There are some differences from the books, which I was really
surprised about, but overall I really enjoyed it.
I feel like, like you said, season 2 felt different a lot of
ways. Like it was darker because
Susannah died, but also it wasn't summer like a lot of it
was during the school year. It was a lot during the winter.
So this felt like summer again and I feel like it'll feel more
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like that when or if they go back to Cousins.
I'm sorry. I really liked how it was just
like a different tone. I think Lola tongue is
beautiful. So I'm like, thank God they no
more no makeup belly, no more depressed belly.
She looks so good. I know she's into, she's a
beautiful girl with her without it, but I was like, she's
glowing and it was so good to just.
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We talk about that a little bit.So in Season 2, I remember doing
something about this too. Do you think they intentionally
changed her makeup to look like a little more washed out a
little more? Just depressed.
And like, not the bright and sunny belly we remember from
season 1. Exactly they did and I
completely get it, but I would just so funny with such a big
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trend on social media where they're like give her some
chapstick like give her a lip gloss please.
Like I get it, she's depressed, but you know I will it.
She definitely is back to life now.
She looks amazing and I felt really good about the the two
episodes. I feel like it was very similar
to the books in the most important ways, maybe barring
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one, which I'm not sure how that's going to flush out.
But I also think the acting was great.
Like it was so great seeing the time jump, see how everyone's
doing. And so yeah, I would say overall
I really liked it. And we're going to definitely
talk about all the Taylor Swift references, of course, but I was
just personally hoping, like Jenny Han, you have to use Laci
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by Olivia Rodrigo, like you haveto use it.
And she did. She listened, I'm sure as soon
as it came out she already had it in her mind.
But yeah, I was happy about a lot of like the music choices as
well. Yeah, totally.
OK. I want to double click on the
book differences you were talking about.
So yeah, what were those differences and how do you think
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they kind of shifted how the season is playing out?
One of the small differences that I was expecting is that she
was going, she applied to study abroad in Paris because in the
books it was supposed to be Spain.
But I kind of expected it because Season 2 in the very
beginning, she's reading the Congo games in French.
She's in French class. So I was like, OK, probably
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season 3 she's going to apply togo to Paris.
So that's a very small difference.
Another difference is Taylor andSteven weren't together in the
books. Like there was no relationship.
May I? I may be misremembering.
If I'm wrong, don't Do not crucify me.
Yeah, first let us know. I'm pretty sure they didn't have
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a relationship in the books likeso I think the whole cheating
aspect with Taylor and Steven was surprising to me, but also
made sense that that's a conversation with parallels
between Jeremiah cheating on belly.
So that was another thing that Iwas kind of expect, not
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expecting the cheating, but I was expecting there to be a
continuation of their story, butI wasn't sure how it would lead
into the car accident with Steven.
The last big difference. Oh, wait, I think one small
difference again, Conrad in therapy.
I'm I don't remember if that wasin the books, but I think it
makes so much sense. Like it makes sense also with a
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time jump and like how he is in this book makes so much sense.
But the biggest difference was in the books, I think it was
only maybe like a two year time jump.
So belly was a little bit younger.
She was like a a sophomore to one year younger.
But Jeremiah was only a junior and in the books they never had
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sex, which is kind of a big deal.
What so? Have sex with Conrad over
Christmas. Yes, so that's why in the books
it's a big point of contention later on.
Like, you know, Jeremiah at somepoint finds out and so he takes
it very personally because he's like my girlfriend of she was
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with me longer than she was evenwith Conrad.
And then she was intimate with him before being like, it's this
whole thing in the books and also ties into the cheating
aspect as well. Like it's like he cheated
because, you know, they weren't having sex the whole time they
were dating. So I thought that was, I was
hoping she would keep it straight to the books because I
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feel like maybe it's because I'ma Jeremiah hater, but I'm like,
it shows. She was so in love with Conrad.
She felt so rejected. And then she was like, OK, like
after I gave this part of me to him, we broke up very soon after
because it was like in December.And then prom, I think was very
soon after. So I thought it made a lot of
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sense in the books. But Jenny Han took it out and
they she showed it really early.She made it very clear from like
the first 5 minutes. So yeah, what do you think about
that 'cause that's a big deal. I would say it's.
A huge difference. I think it yeah, it definitely
changes the psychology of Jeremiah's decision to cheat on
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belly. I also think it definitely
changes Belly's psychology of like her choices and maybe shows
kind of how comfortable she really felt with Jer or not
comfortable maybe. And yeah, I think, OK, so it was
it was a plot point that Jeremiah finds out that Belly
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had sex with Conrad but still refuses to have sex with him.
I think that would have been a really interesting scene to see
where it's this big reveal and he's like, wait, what?
Like you're not even a virgin? What if we've been waiting for.
And like I, yeah, now that I'm, I hate her, I want to see that
like terrible plot, like come out.
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Yeah, And I won't spoil it, but the way it comes out to like the
setting in which it comes out and how it involves Conrad is
just like, so, so dramatic in the book.
So I'm like, oh, we really missed out on that scene because
then Conrad, what he does after,it's dramatic.
And it's like a big point of thebook, like the climax of the
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book comes right after that. So I'm just like, Jenny, what
are you doing? Because I definitely think she
wants to have surprises for the people who read the books as
well. But yeah, I have no idea what
she's going to do so. Interesting.
Wow. OK, OK, yeah, let's talk a
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little bit about Belly and Jeremiah in general.
So I feel like we see. Let me know if you agree with
this. I feel like we see them being
super codependent. Oh yeah.
And like she totally coddles him.
I I feel like actually he treatsher like a replacement Susanna.
That's such a good point. I didn't even think about that.
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But yeah, it's so codependent. Like it's hard to watch
sometimes, even from the very beginning.
She's like, my mom was lucky shefound Suzanne in college, but
lucky for me, I already found mysoul mate.
Like already referring to Jeremiah as her soul mate.
I guess that was what about a year into the relationship at
that point when she started college.
But then Taylor even mentioned she's like, you're always with
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Jeremiah and she's basing so many decisions off of him.
Like it's hard to watch, but it makes, it's so true in a lot of
college relationships and you can just move so quickly and
basically live together really soon.
So I'm not surprised, especiallywith how Belly's character was
in Season 2, where it just seemed like she just needed
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someone to be there for her, notnecessarily someone that was
good for her. But yeah, I it's hard.
It's a really hard watch for me,especially because, like, we've,
we've been watching these characters for so long and I
have certain attachments and I'mlike, belly, stand up for
yourself. Like, go to Paris or, you know,
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don't base your decisions off ofthis boy who doesn't even take
school seriously. Like you're gonna base your
academic decisions around him. Oh, yeah.
I don't understand. That I know, I know.
And yeah, talking about his him like not being committed to
school at all. How do you go your entire four
years without realizing you're not hitting your graduation
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requirements? Like how did you know from your
academics do you need to be for that to happen?
And he totally shrugs it off too.
He's like, it's not a big deal dad.
Like he did. I didn't see my e-mail.
Like it's really. It speaks to his character
though. Totally.
And when he tells Conrad, he says, like, his major changed
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requirements, and so he didn't hit them all.
And it's like, no, if you knew your major, you would know what
the requirements were. It was that you didn't check
when you changed majors. It's not that they changed
requirements. Yeah.
It's just like not taking accountability.
Exactly. Exactly.
And I feel like that that's another way they show the
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difference between Conrad and Jeremiah.
And I feel bad 'cause there is, of course, there's like a
complex between them where Jeremiah feels like Conrad's
perfect and he's not. But it's also like when you use
that as an excuse to continue tobe that way, then it's
completely on you. It's not anyone else's fault.
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Yeah, totally. And the way he just like fishes
for sympathy with belly and belly gives in and she's like,
I'm so sorry this happened. That's like nothing happened to
him. He did this.
I know and even I think I, I enjoyed a lot of Stevens scenes
with Belly 'cause he was very honest with her.
He was like kind of going in on Jer and he's like, that's how he
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is. Like why are you surprised?
And he also was upset that Bellydidn't.
She was kind of coddling him like you said.
So I really like that change in Steven.
I feel like before he was a verynon serious character.
He's like comedic relief. But I feel like their
relationships gotten better overthe years and it was cute seeing
them have their like their little dinner together as well.
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Yeah, that was really sweet. Yeah.
And it was also sweet how she like what?
Well, I'm skipping ahead a little bit.
But in the hospital, when he finally wakes up, she, like,
runs to him and wraps him in a hug.
I was like, oh, this is such a tougher moment between siblings
you don't really see tender moments from.
I know it was really cute and itwas so funny.
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Their parents, their parents were.
I was laughing so hard. I was just like, of course this
is going to happen when he gets into an accident.
Like Oh my gosh, Laura's going to be crazy in the next episode.
But yeah, my God. I'm enjoying the sibling bond
for sure. Yeah, OK.
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When Jeremiah and Belly are talking about the fight that
they had right before the Cabo trip and Jeremiah's like, oh,
like we broke up, blah, blah, blah.
I had such flashbacks to Logan and Rory.
Oh, I was just. Talking about friends, also
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friends. But yeah, like Logan and Rory
being like, I thought we were broken up, blah, blah, blah.
And Rory was like, we weren't broken up, you were broken up,
you know? So yeah, that was one thing.
And then the friends parallel, definitely we were on a break.
And then there was also this onescene after she takes her
passport photo and she's like coming down the steps and she
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runs into Jeremiah and he is like begging for forgiveness,
blah, blah, blah, and then gets down on both of his knees and
he's like, begging her to take him back.
And she says, you're the one person I thought could never
hurt me, and now you're the one that hurt me the most.
That's exactly how the Ross and Rachel confrontation happens
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after. Really.
Yeah. Like, he's literally on both of
his knees. He's hugging her like around her
legs while he's begging to take,for her to take him back.
And she goes, you were the one person I thought would never,
ever hurt me. And now all I can picture is you
with her. And so I was like, oh, my God.
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I I don't know if it was intentional, but they like
basically recreated that entire scene it.
Could be intentional because I feel like Jenny Han's a big, you
know, romance girly, and she loves to sprinkle references in
the crossword. A reference to herself, if you
saw that, yeah. We OK, I do wanna ask about
that, but yeah, we can add to that, yeah.
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But yeah, I think, I think it was intentional 'cause even
there are some other little Easter eggs, like there's a
picture on Belly's wall of her and Jeremiah, and they were
dressed as Laura Jean and Peter Kavinsky on Halloween in the
exact same pose. They were like wearing clothes,
look like them. So I feel like she probably, she
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did that on purpose. Oh my gosh, that's such a good
Easter egg. I I totally missed that.
It upset me so much in the book,the whole like, we were on a
break, like you are not on a break, though.
Also, the fight was so silly, like it was obviously his fault.
Yeah. And the way she apologized at
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the end and was like, I can see how you thought we were broken
up. Like I'm sorry for reacting the
way I did. That's why we're all stand up,
belly, stand up. Yes, also so you know how he
bought her that like Pooka shellbracelet basically.
Oh my gosh. I saw something on Reddit that
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was like Conrad buys her this very nice Infinity like sterling
silver necklace. Not even when they're together.
And then here we have Jared buying her a stupid fucking puka
shelled bracelet after sleeping with someone else twice.
Yeah. And I didn't, I didn't see if
she was wearing like other noticeable jewelry.
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Like if he gave her a really nice necklace, I feel like she'd
wear it all the time, just like the Infinity necklace with
Conrad. But that's what she was wearing.
It's it's so it shows that he's lazy, you know, but the whole
like we were on a break thing. Yeah, that would never fly.
It doesn't matter. It's like even if you thought
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you were truly broken up, the first thing you do is sleep with
someone. Like, no, it would be done.
It would be done so. Literally.
Yeah, I think it's just like she's disregarding it because
she's valuing like their historyover what he did to her.
And she is vulnerable with Steven.
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Like maybe if the car accident happened maybe she wouldn't have
taken them back, but I feel likeshe would have at some point.
Yeah, yeah, I know. Also, when after after like the
big blowout happens after she finds out he cheated, then you
see the text that he sent her and he says I hate myself, tell
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me what to do. And I'm like, this boy can't
even like that. This is another example of him
treating her like his mom. He's like.
Please. Just tell me what to do.
It's like no figure out what thefuck to do.
You don't meet her, the girl youcheated on to like write it out
for you. That pissed me off so much.
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He's just so immature, like he there's no, there's no
accountability like he could have, even if they didn't get
back together or if they got back together like he could have
admitted like I was, I was in a bad place.
Alcohol was not an excuse. But I cheated on you and I'll do
everything to make it up to you,but I don't deserve you anymore.
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Like, something along those lines would be way better than
what he actually said to her. He was just saying, like, like,
love bombing her the entire timeand just begging her to forgive
him. It was just like, no, that's not
enough. And if Conrad knew, oh, my gosh,
it would be over. He's like, I've been staying
away for how long? And you cheated on belly?
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Like, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, I cannot wait for
Conrad to find out. Actually, I want to see what
happens. I can't wait to 'cause I.
I don't know how it's going to look because it's going to be
different than the book. I assume at least in the in one
way, maybe it could be similar to the book, which would be very
dramatic. So we'll see.
We'll see how that comes out. Okay, okay.
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Interesting. Okay, also with the the tell me
what to do thing, it kind of reminded me of towards the end
of season 2 when she, Jeremiah, and Conrad are all driving back
from Cousins and they're on thatroad trip and Jeremiah turns to
her and he's like, are you cold?And she's like, no, I'm fine.
And then he's like, OK, whatever.
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And then Conrad just gives her his sweater without without even
looking. Up.
Yeah, it's. Like, no, like just just do what
she needs. She's I think she was shivering.
It's like she's obviously cold. Take action.
Don't ask her that's. Always been a thing with them
though. It's like Jenny Han's always
showing how her connection with Conrad is so just like, easy and
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natural even like. That that.
Whole car ride scene even after with like her favorite snacks,
like Conrad always knows what she wants.
And then even when they were doing that late night study
session, when they were throwingthe McDonald's burgers, when he
threw it to Jerry, he kind of like Hot Pocket, like hot
potatoed it a little bit and then kind of caught it.
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And then Conrad didn't even lookit up and he caught it.
It was so effortless. And that was like another way
for her to show that. So that's throughout the whole
series. Honestly, Jenny is team Conrad.
She likes to pretend she threw in delicate last season to give
the Jeremiah fans a crumb, but she's always been team Conrad.
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Like, I feel like from the beginning, it's very obvious.
In the trailer alone, the trailer loving him was red.
Come on. Yeah, Belly's wearing red.
And so many of the promo videos and pictures.
Oh yeah. That's true and obviously.
Christmas. Of course it's Christmas, but
she was wearing like head to toered when Conrad showed up at the
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door. And I was like, that's so true.
What was it? Her pajama outfit?
That's like fully red. Yeah.
Cute. I can't wait to talk.
About that, I was like, no, they're feeding us.
They're feeding us. After the gross montage with
Jeremiah, I'm like, I don't wantto see that.
OK, let me see if there was anything else about Jerry.
I wanted to talk Jeremiah, not Jer Shalini that I.
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Wanted to talk. About let him go. 01 thing.
That I think I will say Belly has always been very good at is
not is like standing up for herself in the moment when
Jeremiah is trying to bring her into his drama with Conrad.
Like in season 2. I think after the party,
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Jeremiah is like, you're doing the same thing you always do,
like you're giving up just like you gave a belly.
And then she's like, don't use me to get at him.
And then this season he's sayinglike, Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not
like perfect Conrad. And she's like, don't put your
inferiority complex on me. I really I'm I'm glad she said
that. That was like the one moment she
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stood up for herself. Yeah, no, I.
I I completely agree. Like exactly those two examples.
Wait, I have a question for you.Oh.
After. Your Season 2 rewatch 'cause you
said, like you kind of, you could see the Jeremiah appeal
while you're watching. Do you feel like now knowing
what he did in Cabo, does that change your opinion at all about
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him? I think.
It does change my opinion. I, I do still think like in
season 2, they showed Conrad to be like such an annoying little
bitch honestly, in so many scenes where he's like being
really petty and like snarky andstuff that I do think in season
2. I, I definitely think that
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Jeremiah was a made way more sense as a choice for her in
season 2. But I do think it just shows
that Jeremiah as a character doesn't have a lot of depth or
critical thinking. And like, now I think seeing how
it plays in in college where he cheats on her, it's just like,
oh, he's always just living in the moment.
He's not like, cherishing memories with her.
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He's not thinking about the future with her.
He's just kind of like always inthe moment, which is maybe what
she needed in the season 2. But like, definitely just isn't
a good forever person. Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense. And I I totally agree.
I think we talked about it, but season 2, she just wanted
someone to like be there for her, especially after Suzanne is
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like ripped from her life. And so, so was Conrad.
And even though I always felt like their connection was easier
and they have such a shock, her and Conrad had such a strong
connection that you can see in so many different scenes.
I could see Jeremiah really prioritized her and I don't
think she felt that from him in that moment.
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But also Conrad, he like he doesn't want to disappoint
anyone. He always holds it in.
I'm like, don't hold it in. Tell her how you feel.
So it really it's like it, it's true to their personalities.
But I feel like season 3 and like the the third book, you see
how it changes over time, like how those behaviors before have
changed and now this is like whothey are.
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But I feel like it's very telling.
Boo am IA Boo, we hate you not. Gavin though, Gavin, we love
you. Oh, but there's.
T thirsty with the cast cause did you see that the past Gavin
got married within the past yearand he didn't invite any of the
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cast? He didn't.
No. And also they were doing some
type of promo last year. I I don't know if it was for the
show or they were filming, but they were being interviewed and
it just seemed like Lola and Chris were very uncomfortable
around Gavin and it people thinkit's because he is a Trump
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supporter, not to bring politicsinto the Yap podcast, but yeah.
So I feel like, 'cause last yearwas just like there was so much
going on in the world and I think he made his stance very
known. And Lola and Chris are like very
like outspoken about being on the opposite side.
So I think that's why there's tension.
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I haven't seen it in their promoyet this season, but I
definitely there was like a really awkward interview from
last year where it was very clear they were just sitting so
far away from him. Was like, Oh my gosh, you guys
have to get it together for Season 3.
But I don't see any of it now. Season 3 is good so far, but
yeah, that's isn't that crazy that is.
Crazy. Oh my God, I cannot be married
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and not. Inviting anyone.
I feel like this is like your claim to fame and people you've
worked with so many times and they were so close Season 1 and
2. So yeah, I think that's probably
why. Damn, what happened?
That reminds me, the actor that plays Christopher in Gilmore
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Girls is also like a huge misogynist Trump supporter, no?
Christopher Why? I know.
But not loop. I don't think.
Scott, I don't think, I don't think we know what Scott
Patterson's opinions are. Well, maybe he's publicized
them. I personally don't know but
apparently I'm forgetting Christophers real name.
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But yeah, he's made it very public.
Mystic. It's like, do you even know
what? Show you were on and what the
audience was. You know, more reasons to hate.
Christopher. Exactly, exactly.
I'm a big Christopher hater too.One thing that has annoyed me is
I feel like the actress, Lola and Gavin have so much
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chemistry. I'm like, can you guys tone it
down when you make out? Because it's like so passionate
each time. And I feel like that also feeds
the Jeremiah like train. And I feel like Lola and Chris,
like they're really good friends, but I feel like they're
more respectful because he has, he's had a girl for the entire
time they've been filming and Lola's really good friends with
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her. And the girlfriend kind of looks
like her if I do say so. That's so funny 'cause.
Gavin's wife looks like so similar to belly too.
I know I'm like. You guys casted it a little bit
too well. And Chris Bryony's girlfriend's
name is Isabella. It's like belly.
Yeah, I know. Oh, my God.
I'm. Crazy, that's something I've.
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Always noticed like their kissesup since season 1 have always
been like super passionate. I'm like season 3, we need to
see it. Like I need to see, I feel like
they always have had really great chemistry together, but I
want to see like more of that chemistry on screen because I
feel like season 3, there's going to be a lot of
opportunities where they spend time together, which you'll see.
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And I just like, even even though I feel like Jeremiah and
Belly have had better like physical chemistry, at least
from the show, the scenes that like make me kick my feet up and
blush are always like Conrad andBelly when they're chatting.
Like even season 2, like the thelittle moments they would have
together would always be so cute.
And all the the flashbacks were so cute.
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When I was watching the trailer,I felt more from that candy cane
moment where he was at the door than all of the montages of
Belly and Jeremiah like completely.
It's such a big difference. So I'm really excited to see
that and I'm, I'm excited to seewhat they do with Jeremiah's
character because I do agree with you.
Like he can be a little bit one-dimensional, but there's no
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reason he should because there'slike his family dynamic, his
dynamic with his brother, his relationship with his mom and
like the role he's played in thegroup is kind of like cheering
everyone up. So I feel like we, I I'm excited
to see what we see from him thisseason.
Even though I don't like him, I feel like acting wise, there
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could be really, he could take really cool, like choices and
scenes. Yeah, yeah.
I know, I'm very excited to see.I can't wait for the fallout
from all of this. All right, let's finally get
into Belly and Conrad. Yay.
I can't wait. OK.
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So I guess. There one big scene together was
the Christmas scene. Yeah.
I guess just overall thoughts. How did you feel about it?
Let's get into it. Uh huh.
I was so. Excited to see it.
Ever since the trailer, like I mentioned, like I just got
butterflies when he's at the door with the candy cane.
And then of course, like she's covered in chocolate and she's
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shocked. But I thought it was so sweet
that they had that was those moments.
And it was very innocent. But Belly was like, we spent the
whole day together, but not together.
But they did spend it together. They were like, it shows how
comfortable they are. Like I feel like Jeremiah is
very much the kind of person he likes to fill silence.
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Like he finds silence to be awkward because he's such a like
activities, you know, driven person.
But Belle and Conrad, like, theycan just like be in a
comfortable silence together. They can do their own thing.
They can be independent in the same space, which is very
telling that that's like a more healthy relationship, in my
opinion. And also the last time they were
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there at the same time was when they had sex, which is so crazy.
Like when he was like, maybe I should light a fire and they had
the brief flashback. I was like, the editors are
actually diabolical for including that.
But that's what I would be thinking about, too.
It's like the last time we were here together was when I lost my
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virginity. Like that's such a huge deal.
But I thought it was very sweet.And the the text after when she
was like locked up and with the the little animation, I was just
like, she's just keeping in how much that meant to her and he's
doing the same. But I thought, I thought they
did it perfectly. Like, that's how I would have
wanted to see it from the books for sure, yeah.
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Totally. I thought it was super realistic
for both of their characters andtheir history for that to be
like how that day went and for both of them to be like
courteous to each other but obviously not wanting to be too
close. So just kind of doing their own
thing, but like, light and fun. And yeah, I think it's
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absolutely shows how comfortablethey can be in each other's
presence without needing to fillsilence.
And I also think it was a great example of, like, what their
future life could look like. Kind of where they're just, you
know, he's doing the crossword and she's watching a movie or
reading a book or whatever. And just like how comfortable
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they are around each other and because they're so nerdy.
Too, And I feel like that's something maybe in other
relationships, like their partner could make fun of, you
know, like I could so see Jeremiah, like, stop reading.
Let's do something, you know? But Belly is honestly, I would
say, pretty introverted. And she loves like these
specific activities. She seems just like so at peace
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and Conrad's the same. So I felt like it shows like
they're so compatible. Like it's right there.
You guys just look up. But yeah, I loved it.
I loved every second of it. And I I forget which movie they
were watching, but they when when they were arguing on who
should be with the main, the lead, the lead actress in it.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, of course it's another love
triangle. And do you did you remember what
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movie they were watching? No, I don't.
I wonder. If we can look it up quickly.
I'm also really bad with old movies so I probably have no
idea, but I would bet that Conrad was arguing for the lead
that's more more similar to him.She loves to put love triangles
in it and. I have.
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A, a side thing that I noticed, it was, it was earlier on in, I
think it was in Episode 1 when Jeremiah and Belly were talking
about her major 'cause she's majoring in sports psychology or
sports psychology or sports therapy, something like that.
But I wrote it down 'cause I thought it was a good one.
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So Belly was saying something about like, Oh yeah, if it
weren't for my injury. Like, it's crazy how one choice
could end up shaping your whole future.
And then Jeremiah says without it, you wouldn't have found
sports psychology. And Belly says, I think I would
have, it just would have taken me longer to get there.
And I was like, come on, That's so about Conrad.
Like it's so like she it's like they were always end game.
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But whether she stayed with him maybe in like book 2 or gets
together with him later on, likeit was always going to be them.
And I feel like that's somethingsince season 1, even their mom
would say like it was always going to be you and Conrad.
So I just thought, like Jenny, Jenny's like putting these right
in front of us, yes. Oh, that's so good.
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Yeah. She.
He's like, you wouldn't have found it.
And she's like, I would have. It just would have taken me
longer. It's like it's it's like a Dare
Jeremiah thing to say. And then it's such a good Easter
egg for what's to come. So good.
Hopefully. Who knows?
Who knows what Jenny Hanna's gonna do?
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Hopefully. OK, let's talk about the
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crossword in in the Christmas episode.
So you were saying that that's acall back to Jenny Hahn?
Yes, 'cause it the the prompt was Jenny Hahn, like best
selling author Jenny Hahn, PSI Blank Love you and it was her
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book PSI Still Love You. I don't know if that was one of
the semi called pretty books or it's yeah, I think it was to all
the boys. I think it's to all the boys.
OK, OK. Oh, I didn't realize it, but she
and she wrote. Still, did you notice?
That Conrad had written still and erased it.
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No, stop. No, I'm not, Scream.
You wrote her so. Freaking.
Cute. She.
Rewrote. Over in.
Did she write in? Pen.
Or was it pencil? Imagine his pen pencil.
But yeah, she. Still loves him.
It was so cute and he. Still loves her and he did the
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rest they. Did the rest of the crossword
right. He's so dramatic erasing it.
He's so dramatic. But that was a cute like nod to
her her other books, because also the name of this book, I'm
pretty sure it it was it's not summer without you.
And that was Laurel's book in season 2 about Susanna.
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So there's like a little crossover.
Yes, I. Noticed that too.
I when when I saw the name of Laurel's book, I was like, oh, I
think this is one of the books about this show.
But yeah. OK, so is that book 3 or is that
book 2? I'm pretty sure that's.
Book 3 it's not summer that you but let me look it up right now.
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Just so we know I do have something else on jar.
Why did he get your losing me? Why did he get your losing me?
That was the only Taylor song. We got this set of episodes
right. No, there's a few.
I thought, really? Wait, is it the only one?
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I was I was trying. To write down the songs as they
came up. And I think that was the only
one. That was the only. 1 Yeah,
you're right. Oh, also you're right.
It's not Summer without You as asecond book.
The third book is We'll Always Have Summer.
Oh. OK, OK, cool.
The only other song that I wrotedown besides Lacey and You're
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Losing me was I Wish I Hated Youby Are You?
Oh my gosh. That was perfect for that.
Also the Call Me by Your Name song, I was like, Jenny, you
need to go to jail. You need to stop.
God, I know, I know. That was so good.
And that's the first song that she.
And. Conrad have together I think in
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this season so good. Oh my God.
She needs to. What's that song called?
Mystery of Love by Sufjan Stevens.
Yes. Yes, that's the song she gave
for Belly and Conrad. Yes.
A great song. OK, the last belly Conrad thing
I had was that the scene where she falls off the stairs and is
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on her back, actually no second to last thing.
She's on her back looking up, and then you see like Conrad's
face hovering above her so that.So.
Cute and mirrors 1 scene into all the boys I loved before.
Yes. Scene in.
XO Kitty where? Oh my gosh.
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Were. Was here when she when.
She's on the track, Yes, when she's.
On the track. Oh, this is so good.
Oh, that's so perfect. I don't remember.
The XO Kitty scene. XO Kitty, I don't remember when.
No idea, I have no. Idea when she did that she was
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so dramatic, so it could have happened any episode, but that's
so cute the parallel. I also for that scene.
I thought it reminded me of the notebook when they were both
laying down and it was kind of like the view above that if
you're a bird, I'm a bird, but not wasn't it if you're a bird,
I'm a bird, but it's the one where they were laying in the
street in the notebook totally forgot about.
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That kind of reminded me. Of that too.
But I was just like, of course he would get down and lay with
her. I know.
Like he loves me so much. It was so cute.
But also, why did she fall like that?
How did she fall? She was like so worried that he
had left I. Know and he was like no, I'm
still here still here and. Then also in that scene he had
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very wet hair and I was wondering if you think that he
did that on purpose because he knows that she finds wet hair
romantic. Romantic.
That is so true. Maybe, I don't know.
I always feel like he just lookslike extra hot when they're not
together and I don't know why. It's just like the flirty banter
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between them is so good. Like the one liners he had in
season 2. Like when he was like I thought
Coco was your specialty. I was like he did not need to
say that. He did not say that so.
Diabolical and Jeremiah doesn't.Even know he has he has like no
idea the references that they have together.
But that's a good point. I feel like knowing him, he
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wouldn't though. He wouldn't do that.
That's. True.
Even though he like, loves her, I think he just got out of the
shower. Yeah, he would.
He would never intentionally tryto woo her while she's with her.
Yeah. Yeah, well, we'll see.
I'm kidding. We'll see.
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I enjoyed every single moment they had.
I thought it was super cute. And also I have Conrad specific
things like when he was talking to his friend about July 4th, I
was like my heart July 4th music, everyone was so happy so
I had to be happy. Oh, it shows how he also like
always puts people's happiness before his.
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And I completely forgot that he never told her that he loves her
even in that painful season 2. Like second to last episode
where he's like, I thought you knew.
That was such a good like iconicscene for both of them.
Good. So good.
But I just. Feel like in every single book
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like Belly never knew how much he really cared about her.
That's fully on him. But she doesn't even know.
She doesn't even know to this day.
It was so sad. He was reminiscing about it like
he's down and. He got fired.
I know, 400. I loved hearing his recounting
(48:11):
of their relationship from his point of view, 'cause I feel
like we never really got to see that.
And I thought it was really revealing how, you know, in
Season 2, she tells Susanna thathe broke up with her, but it's
not really true 'cause he never says anything, really.
She's just like, if you're not gonna say it, I will like you,
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we're breaking up, you don't want to be with me, blah, blah,
blah. And then he's like, wait, belly,
wait. And then she's like, no, like
don't even say anything, blah, blah, blah.
So like, technically he did not break up with her.
But I liked that he admitted that nuance to his friend Agnes.
Or he was like technically she broke up with me but I really
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laid out all of the groundwork for her to do it.
Like it was it was definitely onme even though I wasn't the 1.
So I loved that very self aware admittance from him.
Or therapy. Therapy yes Conrad after like
Conrad post therapy is so great.So I really like that.
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I also loved hearing just everything about the
relationship from how it startedlike just everything from his
point of view. It was so cute that like.
You're, you're falling asleep like how we describe falling in
love with her. Beautiful.
It was always there. And then a scale of 1 to 10.
It was a 10. Like, seeing him be so openly
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emotional about it was really sweet.
But the fact that it's like 4 years later and it's still such
a sore spot for him. Like, he couldn't even tell his
therapist that about when he wastalking about his best case
scenario, that he couldn't even say Belly's name to his
therapist. And I was like, Oh my gosh, this
poor boy. Yeah.
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But yeah, I completely forgot about the Christmas moment from
the books, 'cause I had, I read it two years ago.
I can't believe two years. Like, I don't know how anyone
else has waited because I truly could not have waited that long.
But I I thought it was so sweet how he was saying like, I just
could not spend any time alone with her or I would have told
(50:22):
her how I felt. And I feel like that was like a
theme before to like there were moments where he almost told
her, like his mom was sick in the first episode, but then he
got interrupted by someone like he was, he's always felt like
very vulnerable and safe with him with her.
And he knows himself. He's like, I can't be around her
because I need to respect that, you know, it didn't work out
(50:45):
with us and her relationship with my brother.
So yeah, I felt bad. Konrad was really annoying at so
many times. But end of Season 2, I felt so
bad when he was like sliding down the the the wall, listening
to Exile. I was like, Oh yeah, I stopped
the. Motel, OH.
Like, and they just lost their mom weeks ago.
(51:06):
I was like, Bella, you're evil. You're evil.
Why did you do this? Poor Conrad.
I know. OK.
The last topic I wanted to talk about was Steven and Taylor,
which we haven't really spent any time.
Oh my gosh. Oh my God.
First of all, I love Steven's like Korean Gen.
(51:27):
Z haircut, thank God. People were some people were
hating on it and I was like, I think it looks better.
Yeah, it's better. It's cute.
There's some sort of perm? Situation going on, Yeah, and it
makes sense. Like he would he would go to
college and be like, let me change my look up, you know?
And also Taylor looks cute without the bangs.
(51:47):
I feel like she's looking good. Yes, love her.
Without the but. I can't believe like the total
cheating thing. Like it also it makes sense for
their characters honestly because like she is very like
protective of herself since the beginning of how they started
and I feel like Steven is just like he'll do whatever she wants
(52:09):
honestly. But it makes me sad because they
have really great chemistry together.
Like you can see they have smallsweet moments together too, but
then they're just like in each other's way.
So when she was going to tell him that she broke up with
Davis, I felt so bad that her face just dropped.
(52:31):
But I get it, 'cause Steven was like, this is a sign from the
universe. I literally got hit by a car
when we were fighting. So I don't know.
I have a feeling because I don'tknow what's gonna happen with
them, 'cause this wasn't in the books as far as I remember.
I have a feeling there might be something with his Co worker
like the Co worker like they're keeping there's.
(52:54):
No reason she should. Be that hot.
Like she's gorgeous. I'm like, they're not going to
invest in an actress that's thatgorgeous if they're not going to
have a whole. Like she took her glasses off
and her hair was down. She was beautiful the whole
time. Like, I feel like there's going
to be a moment like that, but I don't know how I feel about that
because I do like Steven and Taylor, yeah.
I agree. I think I was, I was really
(53:17):
surprised by their cheating plotline.
I I guess I was not surprised that Taylor was cheating on
someone with Steven, but I was surprised that Steven was
cheating on someone with Taylor because I feel like he's always
been like pretty morally grounded as a character.
And yeah, so that that did kind of surprise me.
(53:39):
But yeah, I think it's totally fair for him after his car
accident to be like, I need to finally let you go, especially
because he doesn't know what howshe was feeling at the time.
But yeah, I agree, I hope they find their way back to each
other. They're really sweet.
But I would also understand if if Steven moves on with someone
(54:00):
else. Yeah, it yeah, let's see,
because it could also be like anexample of like a cycle that
doesn't work and they use as a comparison with like Belle and
Jeremiah or Belle and Conrad. But yeah, I really don't know
that that's a big unknown for me.
But I'm glad at least like if there's no more moments between
(54:22):
them this season that they had like a lot of cute moments this
past two episodes, but I feel like they didn't get closure.
So I feel like there's there's probably gonna be more Taylor's
a but a much better friend. Now that's one more note I wrote
like season 3. She's like at the hospital with
belly and like she is telling belly when she's not
(54:44):
prioritizing herself and she's being Co dependent on her
relationship. So I really like that character
growth from her because season 1I was like, this is a horrible
friend. Like why is she Why is she
friends with this girl? And it started to get a lot
better in the last season. But I love that growth.
But I also loved when she told off Jeremiah.
(55:05):
I loved her. Outside so much.
And at the same time I also lovethat Jeremiah called out Taylor
for also cheating and like he was like, oh, now you care about
like loyalty to a partner because I think that it it's so
it's so true that like when the tables are turned back on you,
you're like, oh, wait, whoa, yeah, I'm doing the same thing.
(55:28):
But she was she was so comfortable, like telling off
Jeremiah so strongly. And then she was like, whoa, I
need to check myself. I'm also doing that.
Yeah. Yeah, I love, I love that
moment. She was kind of like the
president of the Jelly fan club.So for her to have this moment,
I think, was so telling. But then, of course, you know,
(55:50):
she saw how vulnerable Belly was.
And she was like, if you're going to get back together with
him, just do it. Like, I don't know what Belly
would have done if she didn't say that.
I feel like that kind of gave her, like, the seal of approval
from her best friend. But I love that she was the one
to call Conrad. And Conrad was like, I'm going
to talk to someone. And then he helps her get a
better doctor. I was just like, Taylor, It's
(56:11):
right there. Like Taylor, he's a better
choice for her. He makes things happen.
Another. Example of Jeremiah, Jeremiah
waiting for Belly to tell him what to do and Conrad just
taking care of business. Exactly.
I feel like Stevens definitely team Conrad, which we saw last
season, so we'll see how that pans out.
(56:32):
But I don't even know. Will Steven find out that
Jeremiah cheated? Like, I don't know how that's
gonna look. Yeah.
He starts to talk about the factthat Jeremiah proposed because
that's crazy. Oh my God, Yeah.
Wait, I can't believe we didn't talk about that.
That proposal was psychotic. He didn't even get down on with
me. Like, what is going on?
(56:53):
Yeah. No, he didn't get down with me.
At least in the book he had a ring so he didn't even have a
ring for her. But Belly and I are getting
married. I love that.
But yeah. And she knew the fact she knew
what he was going to say. I was like, any normal person
would have been shocked, especially like, I guess not any
(57:15):
normal person, but knowing theirbackgrounds, like where they are
in the US to, it's not normal for people to get married in
college. So for her, the fact that she
was already like, yes, like, I already know my answer.
I was like, girl, you're embarrassing me.
Stop. I would have been like.
What the fuck? I would be like stop.
(57:37):
Like stand up right now please. That reminds me, did.
You watch how I got your mother yes, that scene where Robin
thinks Ted is proposing to her, but he's not.
They just like accidentally got someone else's ring and she's
like no, no, no, no, no, Ted, you can't do this to me.
No, no, no. He's like he.
Counts it. He counts the amount of nose
(57:59):
exactly. That's how it should have been.
That's how belly should have reacted.
But yes. After he cheat like.
After he found he cheated on you.
No, that's not how it's supposedto be like this.
That's so crazy. They're not ready for the
fallout, which, you know, there's going to be fallout.
Yeah. What do you think?
(58:20):
What do you think the reactions are going to be like?
How do you think Conrad will react?
How do you think Taylor and Laurel will react to Conrad?
Will. Kind of just like shut down and
like pretend and just be like Congrats Jer, whatever.
But inside he'll be obviously like super sad if he finds out
about the cheating. He's going to fucking punch
(58:42):
Jeremiah in the face and I'm ready for it.
I think actually I saw a trailerfor Season 3 when Laurel is
reacting to finding out about the proposal and she's like,
you're way too young to do this or something.
So yeah, I think that's a very logical reaction.
(59:04):
And that is the reaction she should have.
I feel like Taylor will all. I I hope that everyone in their
life is like, why? Like, what are you doing and
why? Yeah, I think.
Maybe the only person who would be supportive is Taylor, but
just because she's like, that's my best friend.
If that's what she wants, like, I'll be there for her.
But yeah, it's Stevens going to be also, I feel like a big
(59:28):
voice. Like, what are you doing?
He doesn't even know about the cheating.
But I think he has already been concerned about the
relationship, so I can so see him saying something.
So the doctor seen it was very much Grey's Anatomy, like the
first day of work when she was like, don't ask me stupid
questions, like, blah, blah, blah.
(59:48):
I was like, this is just borrowing Grey's Anatomy right
now. Yeah, so true the.
The only last thing I put is, Ohyeah, when Belly was upset about
Jeremiah cheating and she was like, now like, how am I going
to go to Cousins this summer? Like I have a part time job
(01:00:10):
there, but I can't do it becauseJeremiah.
And then I can't go to Susanna'smemorial anymore because of
Jeremiah. And I was just like.
No, like you should still do these things, even if especially
the memorial. Why would you not go when it has
nothing to do with this? I was just like seeing her kind
of like her. Her world revolves around him,
(01:00:34):
which is just I really hope we get that growth from belly this
season, which I feel like will be hard because she's literally
engaged now and it's all going to be about him.
But yeah, I really want us to have that moment because I feel
like I do have like a love hate relationship with belly too,
where I'm like, you keep doing these crazy things and I can't
justify it. Queen.
(01:00:55):
I'm sorry. Like making out with your ex
boyfriend's brother on his car wearing his sweatshirt.
I have nothing to say to that, truly.
No, literally. I know I also have a love hate
relationship with Belly, but I, yeah, I I'm still rooting for
her and I hope, I hope she findshappiness and I hope it's not
(01:01:17):
with Jeremiah me. Too, But I hope she doesn't
choose herself only. Like, please, please, Jenny Han,
please don't make that the ending that we're not expecting,
because we're also expecting that, don't you?
Literally. I will riot.
I was going to riot end of season 2 when she was like the
(01:01:39):
future's unclear but it's still mine.
I'm like Jenny, don't please. Sometimes so cringe.
Exactly. But yeah, those are all my
notes, but I'm really excited. Do you know when episodes come
out? Is it every Monday or is there a
specific day every new? Wednesday.
I believe every Wednesday. OK, yes, that's gonna go until
(01:02:04):
like basically the end of the summer, I think, because it'll
be 10 episodes. Yeah, it's. 11 episodes this
time. Oh yeah.
OK, good. And I hope one of the episodes
longer 'cause yeah, well, I hopeso too.
Well. Maybe it doesn't need?
To be longer and we'll see, but there's a lot that's gonna
happen I just hope there's not afiller episode 'cause I feel
(01:02:24):
like kind of the gate. The arcade episode last season
was a filler, and there were a lot of cute moments where it
showed like relationships with the boys.
But I felt like that was a filler episode.
And then when they like stayed overnight in the golf course, I
was just like, I'm. Not getting anything.
Out of this. Stupid, yeah.
(01:02:44):
But then they came back and their house was empty and I was
like, oh, see, we'll see. Maybe I need to reread the book
or I kind of want to just be surprised because it has been a
while and I'm like being surprised by what's going on,
but I'm surprised at how much I also remembered.
But Belly and Jeremiah never having sex in the books is a big
deal. So that one I was really, like,
(01:03:06):
different. So I don't know what Jenny Han's
cooking up, but I'm excited. This is these are my summer
plans for the rest of the summer.
Awesome. Well, at the end of every Benji
app repeat episode, we generallyrate the season, but I guess we
can do ratings of the season so far.
(01:03:28):
So Aliano, what would you rate the season so far?
I would rate. It I'll say 9 so far I'm really
happy with it, but I need my girls to have more of a backbone
so that's the only reason I'm saving that last point.
What about you? I was also.
(01:03:48):
Going to give it a 9 or maybe a 9.5.
I thought, yeah, I like I for some reason, anytime there's a
new season of some of a show that I love, I'm always afraid
it's just going to feel different and like I'm going to
notice that it's a completely new season shot in a different
year. But I thought it flowed so well
and the little details in the show were amazing.
(01:04:13):
I'm really enjoying it so far. My like, my emotions were so
strong watching both of the episodes.
So yeah, 9.5 I would say that's.It I would also agree that 9.5
the .5 for the music alone because lazy, if lazy wasn't in
it we would have had an issue for sure.
So yeah. And that's one of the best parts
(01:04:35):
of the show, too, is that they invest so much in the music for
for each episode. So I'm excited to see what the
next Taylor reference is. Yeah.
Me too. OK.
And our last segment is called Binge in Progress, where we just
talk about the other media we'reconsuming, other TV shows we're
(01:04:57):
watching, if you're reading any good books.
So Ayana, what are you binging right now?
Because I was on vacation, I'm behind on Love Island, so I'm
watching the last episode of Love Island now.
That's the last thing I I started watching.
And is there anything else? Nothing else right now, but I
(01:05:17):
want to watch that new show thatI saw.
You have an episode like K Pop Hunters or something like that?
Yeah. K Pop Demon Hunters.
It's a movie. It's a movie.
Well, I really want to watch that next because it looks
interesting, but I need something soon because Love
Island has been consuming my life the past six weeks.
So yeah, I need something soon. But I'm definitely gonna watch
(01:05:40):
the Beyond the Villa too. Like, even though it kind of
looks really like planned, I still love the cast from last
season, so I'm gonna watch that for sure.
Me too. All fun.
What about you? I just started this new show
called We Were Liars, which actually oh, I watched it.
Kind of. Oh, you.
(01:06:01):
Did OK OK. I think I'm on episode 4 or
something. It's like kind of the summer I
turn Pretty meets like dark mystery mystery.
Yeah, I love the vibes of it. I don't feel anything for the
characters, unfortunately. Like, I think they're all pretty
hateable. They're all hateable and which I
think matches the premise of theshow, but I do remember it was
(01:06:25):
really popular in like the 20 tens and I never read it.
It's like been on my list for a while but I definitely am not as
attached as I am to like the summer I turned pretty.
Me too. Awesome.
Well, Alyona, thank you so, so much for being a guest on this
episode. Your insights were so valuable
because I've never read the bookbefore and you pay such close
(01:06:49):
attention when you watch the show, so thank you so much
yappers. Probably going to do the finale
as well or probably just like the whole season after the
finale comes out. But if you want a season
midpoint episode also let us know.
Open to doing that. I haven't asked Alyana about
this ahead of it I bought a mic for.
(01:07:09):
This so I'm down. Let me know, right?
Awesome. Well, Alyana, thank you so much
for being here. Thank you.
Shalini, thanks for yapping. With us, if you loved this
episode, have some hot takes we missed, or if you've got a show
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