September 22, 2025 ⢠45 mins
Grab your coffee and settle into Stars Hollow with us! In this episode, we take on Gilmore Girlsâthe fast-talking, coffee-fueled classic that shaped a generation. Ruchi is coming in fresh having only watched the pilot, while Shalini brings the full weight of a seasoned rewatcherâs wisdom. Together, we discuss Ruchi's creative predictions for all 7 seasons, debate the highs and lows of Rory and Lorelaiâs journey, unpack what makes these characters so endlessly fascinating, and reflect on how our own growth changes the way we see them. And yesâwe discuss the ultimate showdown: ranking the seasons once and for all.
Ruchi's likelihood of watching through Season 3: 70%
Number of episodes: 153 (Runtime ~115h)
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Hey Yappers, Happy fall. We have a bit of an atypical
episode for you. Today we are covering one of my
favorite shows of all time, Gilmore Girls.
I have probably seen this show through close to 15 times and
Ruchi has only seen the pilot. I asked her to put together
predictions for what happens in all seven seasons of the show.
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So we app about that. We app about all of the
beautiful and tragic mother daughter relationships and of
course weather career Team Dean,Team Jess or Team Logan.
Get a hot cup of coffee and settle in for this cozy
nostalgic episode. Hey Appers, welcome back to
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Binge Apper P Today is the firstday of fall, September 21st, and
so to celebrate, Ruchi and I aregoing to be doing a special
episode on one of my favorite shows of all time, Gilmore
Girls. What we normally do for episodes
is we binge watch a show, then we talk about it, then we like
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give a rating and then do like alittle binge in progress
segment. So this is going to be a new
format entirely where Shalini has watched the show Gilmore
Girls, well, like 10 times all the way through more than.
That probably a little more thanthat.
And I have only watched the first episode last night.
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Is that actually the only episode you've ever?
Seen the only episode I've ever seen.
OK, maybe like snippets here andthere from what you've shown me,
but other than that I have only seen the first episode end to
end. Amazing, amazing.
So 1st I'm going to ask Ruchi togive us everything she knows
about this show. Yes, I know the title.
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Great. That's a good start.
You're welcome. Then I'm going to have her do a
little pilot recap just what shelearned about the show, and then
I'm going to have her predict the entire show.
So I've given her a few prompts of what like questions that I
want her to answer when she thinks things will happen and
how they'll happen. And then we will go into more of
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a discussion about the actual show and about specific
characters and stuff like that. Yeah, I'm excited all.
Right, me too. Happy fall.
OK, so Ruchi, do you want to start by just telling yappers
and me everything you know aboutthis show?
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The show is called Gilmore Girls.
It stars Rory and Lorelei. I know that Rory has like 3
different, at least three different guys who are like love
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interests in her life. And I know that the Internet is
maybe conflicted about which team to be on.
There's no like, you know how. And then the summer I turned
pretty was like, it's obviously team Conrad by the end, but in
the middle it was like team Conrad, Team Jeremiah.
So I know that there are teams, there are camps.
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And I don't know if it's the same with Lorelei.
I don't see people talking aboutLorelai like they do for Rory.
So I'm I'm interested to see what team I should be on.
I want an opinion on that. I also know that Rory dropped
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out of Yale because of that famous like Jeff, that's like,
how could you drop out of Yale? And I am also like, how could
you drop out of Yale? So I why did you drop out of.
Yeah, that one. Yes, exactly.
So I am interested to see who that was and why he said that to
her and why she dropped out in the first place.
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So yeah, let me see what else I know about Gilmore Girls.
I I think that's pretty much it.To be fair, I have tried to
watch Gilmore Girls before and Ithink I've only made it like
halfway through the first episode before I've given up.
So this is the first time that Iwatch it all the way through.
And I will say I actually am excited about watching the rest
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of the season based on what I saw in the pilot.
Wow, yes. Wow.
I'd love to hear it. Beforehand, cuz I when I watched
the first episode before, I basically got to the part where
she didn't want to go to Chiltonanymore because she met Dean and
I was like really? Like you met this guy on your
last day of school and that's why you wanted like not go to
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Chilton. So I judged her hardcore for
that. That's why I never watched it.
But after watching it all the way through, I see the appeal.
OK, great. The pilot is very sweet.
Yeah, it is very sweet. So with that being said, OK or
do you wanna? Do you wanna?
Go through like what? What happened in the pilot?
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Yes. Remind Yappers if it's been a
while since you watched Gilmore Girls.
OK, if it's been more than two days since you watched Gilmore
Girls, here's what happens in the first episode.
So Rory gets into Chilton. Lorelei goes to her parents to
beg for money. We realize that Lorelei comes
from a very wealthy family. She accepts their money on the
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condition that Rory and Lorelai go and do weekly dinners with
her parents. But then on her last day of
school, Rory meets this bad boy Dean, who and then doesn't want
to go to Chilton anymore. But I think in the end that she
is convinced to go to Chilton. I think that was unclear, but I
think she goes to children and then we find out that Rory's
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dad, his name is Christopher andhe has his own Internet startup
and generally Lorelai and and the parents have a bad
relationship and they live in Stars Hollow and Melissa
McCarthy is there. Great recap.
Excellent. Yes.
Oh, and also we meet Patty, the dance instructor.
Yeah, Episode Patty. Yeah, cuz I remember you told me
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about her when we were doing ourAT 12 recap.
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Miss Patty's Dance Studio.
That's right, Miss. Patty's dance studio makes my
parents all right. Great.
So that being said. So what do you think happens in
the rest of the seven seasons? I would love to tell you.
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Okay, so one thing that you toldme, which I think was really
critical to wrap my framework around is that the show starts
with the beginning of her sophomore year of high school
and ends with the senior year ofcollege.
So I basically used that as my framework for seasons one
through 7. OK so in season 1 I say Rory and
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Dean get into a relationship, but then Rory gets in trouble
with Chilton for something that Dean did and her grandparents
have to intervene or something. And Rory loses her virginity to
Dean in this season because she's 16, and that's when
Lorelei gets pregnant with Rory's age, 16.
OK, out of everything you said. Everything is wrong.
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You got one thing right Which? Is that?
She does lose her virginity to Dean.
Let's go. It's more complicated than that,
but we can get into that later. Whoa, it's more complicated.
OK, All right, Season 2 Rory is 17.
So my I think the overall theme for this season is that Rory
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struggles with her Rory from theblock attitude and wants to be
with Dean, but then goes to Chilton and finds some other boy
to be obsessed about at Chilton.I also say that Rory hangs out
with Christopher, her dad, and then tries to convince Lorelei
to get back together with her dad, Christopher and Lorelei and
Christopher date, but it doesn'tlast.
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And then, just as a side note, the Stars Hollow Inn burns down.
Dude, OK, first of all, Rory, OK, wait, I'm trying to remember
what you said, because some of those things were right.
What? OK, some of those things were
right. OK, I'll just start from the
end. The Stars Hollow in or it's
sorry, it's actually called the independence in.
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Oh, it does burn down. No way.
Yes, but it's in season 3, no? Way.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
OK. Also towards the end of season 2
Lorelai and Christopher do try dating and it doesn't work.
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It's like a two episode turn around.
Let's go, OK? The reason that I did the Stars
Hollow in Independence in Burns Down is because Melissa McCarthy
was such a mess and then they got a new stub in in season at
the end of the first episode. So I have a feeling if I can
make another prediction, I thinkit's the most McCarthy burns it
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down. I.
Think they don't say slash? Maybe it was an electrical fire
or something, I don't, but it definitely wasn't Suki's fault.
Suki. OK, that's her name.
You got it. I see.
OK, so. OK, what else was right?
You said that, Rory. Finds some other boy.
Finds another boy at school. There is another boy at school
that really likes her. And actually in season 1 they
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kiss. But then in Season 2, that boy
just like, is really into her still while she's with Dean, and
then Dean feels threatened so. And that boy is Chad Michael
Murray. Wow.
His name's Tristan in the show. Tristan, OK, Yeah, Tristan did
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not play a factor. Pass that season because he
actually leaves for One Tree Hill like midway through season
2. Oh.
Amazing. Great.
That's why he's not a factor in this.
OK, Season 3. OK, so like, this is my
prediction for season 1 and two.Season 3 through 7 is much
smaller, more vague. More vague because I'm like, I
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don't know if those things are right, but let's see, OK, Season
3, Rory's 18. She gets into Yale.
True. Hell yeah, Lorelei and Luke get
together. It doesn't happen.
Season 3. Come on.
OK this. OK, so this is kind of this is
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out there. I say that Lorelei's dad dies
and then Lorelai and Melissa McCarthy Zuki start their new in
with the inheritance from Lorelai's dad.
And that's why I went back to season 2 and I was like, it's
got to burn down, it's got to go.
Or maybe with the inheritance orthe insurance from the
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independence? I think the after the Yale
thing, everything else is wrong but Richard Lorelei's dad does
not die in the series, but he dies between the series and the
reboot A year in the life. So he does die in like in Canon
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everyone. 'S gotta die.
At some point, yeah. He does have some near death
experiences in season 1 and season 7 I think.
Oh. Yeah, like heart attack I.
Don't know. Yeah.
Brushes with death. He oldest book so that makes
sense. Wait, weren't you saying
something about the actor that the actor is like someone that
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we've seen before or no? He he is a pretty famous guy.
His name is Edward Herman. This is crazy that you just know
this off the top of your head. What else has he been in?
Oh, he played FDR in Eleanor andFranklin.
He was. He was in Annie in the 1982
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movie you played. Was it like money banks?
Yeah, like for Mr. Daddy. Long legs.
Daddy Fairbanks, Yeah, maybe he played that.
OK, well, I really just know himas Richard Gilmore.
Got it. Yeah.
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OK. Season 4.
Oh wait, so they don't, they don't start their new end at
this point in Season 3? They do not.
Damn OK season 4 Rory is 19, shegoes to Yale but has a bad time,
has no friends, whatever. Lorelei and Luke break up.
That's all I put for Season 4. OK, she does go to Yale.
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Great. That's about it.
Great. Actually, I would say she she
doesn't. Have a bad time, but she
definitely doesn't have the besttime, so give me that.
Let's go. Yeah, I should have put, I
should have been softer with my language.
Doesn't have a great time. OK but do Lorelei and Luke then
get together at this point? Yes, at the very end of Season
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4, they made us wait a long time.
Seriously, the moment that he showed up in the pilot, I was
like, their end game. Yeah, it's obvious.
It's so obvious. Oh, fun fact, those actors do
not get along with each other. Really.
It kind of seems like Lauren Graham doesn't love Scott
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Patterson, but Scott Patterson would have been down to date
from what I've heard. His interviews on Gilmore Guys,
her interviews with like media, Yeah.
Why? OK OK so maybe this is like then
an off by one thing. So I'm gonna put my Lorelei and
Luke break up to season 5. OK.
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OK, so that's the that's what I'm gonna put Lorelei and Luke
break up in season 5. Rory is 20.
Rory drops out of Yale for a boyand and oh and then I also say
Lorelei has to abandon her dreamof the new in to bail Rory out
for whatever situation Rory has gotten into herself.
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I don't. Know OK Lorelei and Luke do
break up in season 5 but they also got back together.
Oh come on, I put that in season6 then.
Rory, that is at the very end ofseason 5 is when Rory drops out
of Yale. Oh, OK.
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And then season 6 is when Jess, who was actually introduced in
season 2, comes back into her life.
Wait, who's Jess? Yeah, you didn't get there.
No, Jess is not a Chilton guy. Right.
That's that was Tristan. That was Tristan, OK Jess is
Luke's nephew that comes to staywith him in Season 2.
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I see. And then he and Rory have a ton
of chemistry that drives a wedgebetween her and Dean.
I see. Yeah, Anyway, so he.
A lot of wedges between her and Dean.
Yeah, Dean was a jealous boy. He's not in the show in season 5
at all, I think Jess. But then in season 6 he comes
back. They've spent like a lot of time
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apart, at least over 2 years. And then he sees that her life
is so different. He's like, why did you drop out
of Yale? Oh, that's Jess.
OK, Got it. Great.
That changes a lot of things here.
I, like, completely forgot aboutthat boy.
I should have been like, yeah, anyway, he did not play a factor
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in this. OK, what?
Are we on Season 6? Yeah.
OK, so Season 6 Rory is 21. I say that Rory breaks up with
Boy Capital B but doesn't want to go back to Yale.
And then that's where I was thinking that the why did you
drop out of Yale? Happened, But I didn't know who
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that person was. OK.
And that's all I had for Season 6.
Great, so season 6 she does break up with her boyfriend at
the time, whose name is Logan. OK.
He's a Yale boy. I see.
And they're together for most ofthe season.
And then they she, like, decidesto go back to Yale.
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Because of Logan. No.
So why did she drop out of Yale?OK, so in the middle of season 5
she starts dating Logan. His family invites her over for
dinner and his family is like billionaires because they run
like a huge media company. His dad runs a huge media
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company. She wants to be a journalist.
And so when she comes over for dinner, they like, super
overreact to Logan dating her. And they're like, she's not of
good breeding. And like, you know, they they
like, really freak out even though her grandparents are
like, so rich, but they're not like Hunsberger rich.
Yeah. And so then to make up for that,
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Logan's dad hires her on as an intern at one of his newspapers.
But then a few weeks later he has a one one-on-one with her
and is like, you don't have whatit takes.
Yeah, sorry. Some people have it and you
don't. Oh my God.
I. Know what happened to nepo
babies? I know.
And so then she freaks out, has a huge crash out and drops out
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of heel. Oh.
My gosh, she's like, oh, I was on this path my whole life and
like, no, I don't know what to do.
So anyway, then she's still dating Logan this whole time she
takes the semester off. She starts working at her
grandmother's like the the Daughters of the American
Revolution, which is a real thing.
Yeah, actually I have heard of this, yes.
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But yeah, she starts like volunteering with them and then
one semester and she just like, gets sick of it and, and Jess
comes back into her life and she's like, why did you drop out
of Yale? And not just like, does
something to her. And then she's like, Oh my God,
I need to get a job, I need to go back to school, blah, blah,
blah. And then she goes back.
Yeah, good job, Jess. Yeah, good for you, my team,
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Jazz. OK, don't tell me.
OK, OK. And then Season 7 Rory is now
22. She goes back to Yale and she
graduates and ends up with Dean Question mark.
I don't know anyone else at thispoint.
And then and then I put Lorelei and Luke get together in season
7 and then stay together. So that happens in season 6
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actually. And then they stay together
until Season 7. So they break up and get back
together within like 4 episodes of season 5.
OK, then they're together for the rest of season 5 and all of
season 6. OK then at the very end of
season 6 Laura like cheats on him with Christopher.
Christopher. I guess technically it wasn't
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cheating because she gives him an ultimatum, and then he's
like, I can't do that right now.And then she storms out and then
sleeps with Christopher. Yeah, Laura, like.
And then they're broken up for all the episodes of Season 7
until the very, very end. And then they get together at
the end. They like, kiss and that's the
last scene of the show. OK, well I guess we're team Luke
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for Lorelei for the most part, That makes sense.
So for Rory, I guess I'm Team Jess based on what you said, but
I'm not sure. Limited information.
What team should I be on? OK, so yoppers, I'm actually not
100% team Jess because so they start dating.
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Season 3, Episode 7. OK Wow.
Yeah. After this dance marathon.
And so when they start dating, they only date for from Season
3, Episode 8 all the way throughclose to the end of that season.
And he's a terrible boyfriend toher.
She loves going to all the town things, but then he never wants
to go to them. And then she's like, but you
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always. You came to the basket thing
when I was dating Dean. You came to this, You came to
that. And he's like, yeah, that's what
I was trying to get you. Now I have you.
Yeah, yeah. So.
Rude. And then there's this one
episode where, like, they were planning on doing something
Friday night, but he doesn't call.
So then she's just sitting around all day.
And then she pretends like she'snot mad at him.
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Then he still doesn't call untilSaturday.
And then she's like, fine, I'm just like, gonna go hang out
with my friend. And then yeah.
And then anyway. So he doesn't treat her very
well in that way. I will say I think they are the
best match out of her three guys.
So there's Dean, who was first boyfriend Jess, and then Logan.
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And then Logan, though, I think was the best boyfriend to her.
But I don't think they're the perfect match.
Yeah, because I just think she'snot herself around him and she
just cosplays this, I don't know, trophy wife kind of person
when she's with him versus with Jess.
She was just her book for himself.
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Yeah, OK, yeah. Can we excuse the bad behavior
because they are? Chex notes 17.
At this point so I think so and Jess had a pretty tough
upbringing too. His mom was pretty absent and
his dad was also absent and so that's why he goes to live with
Luke in the 1st place. I see.
So he was a troubled kid. He was going through a lot.
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You know, we give him a pass forthat.
Yeah, right. OK.
I think so. I mean, I still, I have a lot of
love for Jess. OK, Yeah, we are officially Team
Jess. Good to know what side I'm on
now. Great.
Oh. Do you wanna hear how she loses
her virginity? Yeah, I wanna wait.
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What is this complicated situation?
So she kisses Tristan. Tristan.
That's in Season 1. OK, flash forward to Season 3.
What? Yeah, so she's dating Jess.
OK Dean is furious. Basically for half of season 2
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and the beginning of season 3, she's like obviously into Jess
but won't drop Dean. And she's, yeah, she's just like
stringing Dean along. Then after she and Jess get
together, Dean, like pretty soonafter that, starts dating a New
Girl named Lindsay. And then Dean and Jess get in a
fight at a a house party. Suspiciously, right after that,
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he proposes to Lindsay senior year of high school.
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, they got married.
What? She said Yes, Yeah.
They get married at the beginning of Season 4, and then
all of Season 4, he and Rory kind of rekindle their
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friendship, and then she sleeps with him and he's cheating on
his wife with her. Yeah.
No. That's how she loses her
virginity. Wait but I thought this was
season one that she loses her virginity?
No, that's what you. Thought OK I see what you're
saying, she does lose her virginity to Dean, but it's not
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in season 1, it's in season 3. At the end of Season 4.
At the end of season 4 when he'sa married man.
Yes, he's been a married man, like almost the entire season.
Oh my God, have you seen that? Clip where she's like my Dean,
he's my Dean. No, OK.
OK, that chews up a lot on my social media.
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But anyway, that's her telling her mom like he loves me, he's
my Dean. And then Lorelai's like, he's
not your Dean, he's Lindsay's Dean.
That's very yeah. Oh, Rory, I know.
If I did see that, I was probably like, is this like the
Yale Dean, the. Dean of Yale.
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Universe Dean of Yale, My Dean, My list, my Dean's list.
Pick me, Choose me for the Dean's List.
Oh, OK, so it's not it's Dean. Got it.
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OK, great. Yeah.
Wow. So I I'm like, definitely not
Team Dean. That's great.
Cool. Yeah.
OK, so now we have some other questions.
OK, about Gilmore Girls in general.
OK, Yeah. So Shalini, you've probably
spent 10,000 consumption hours watching Gilmore Girls.
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Can you tell me why do you thinkyou've watched it so many times?
I think it's a few things. One is definitely nostalgia, so
I can understand why someone watching the show for the first
time right now would not be as into it as I am.
I totally get that a big part ofit is nostalgia.
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That being said, I also think I love it because it feels very
cozy. All of seasons, at least one
through 3, feel just like this utopian town where everything's
just, like, so perfect and cute and adorable.
The Gilmore Girls are just, like, having a good time.
They have, like, fun banter. So I feel like it's just a very
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cozy show where I can just, like, escape normal life.
And I know exactly what's gonna happen.
It's never too dramatic. Like, you know, it's just like a
very steady state slice of life kind of show.
Yeah. Did you used to watch it when I
was like, airing on TV? No, actually I, I watched a few
episodes then, but I, I watched it all senior year college,
which is when it came on Netflix.
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And then from then on I just, I kept watching it and, and what's
interesting is that every time Iwatch it, I start to form
different opinions. Really.
The first few times through I was totally Team Dean, actually.
Really. Yeah.
Cuz in the beginning they show that he treats her really well
compared to Jess. For sure.
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He's not. He's actually not a bad boy at
all. He's sweetheart boy that is
really nice to Lorelei and comesover and just hangs out with the
two of them and totally respectstheir dynamic and stuff in the
beginning. And then he starts getting
jealous. But yeah, so I was like, oh,
like, Dean's something nice. And then later I was like,
actually, he's like a little controlling.
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He starts to get a little controlling in Season 2.
And actually Jess really gets her, like, he knows how to
support her. And so yeah, just stuff like
that, I started changing. Do you think?
That was a result of like you personally growing up and
understanding the world more? Or was it just like things you
noticed in the show more and more?
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Maybe a little bit of both. I do think there's an element of
me just growing up and like wanting a different kind of
partner for myself over time. And also, I think there are
layers to this show where at first something seems a certain
way, and then the next time you watch it you're like, hmm,
actually, I don't know, maybe this is what they were trying to
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show. I see.
Yeah, I love that. Like, your own life experiences
shape how you watch and enjoy the show Even so many years
later. Yeah.
And so many like iteration. Actor and I used to find Emily
the grandmother so horrid and now she's like my favorite
character. Really.
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Yeah, I understand that. I understand that a lot.
I think when I watched the firstepisode where she was like, oh,
yeah, we can give you the money on the condition that you have
to come and call us and you alsohave to come and eat dinner with
us on a weekly basis. I think now living far away from
my parents, I'm like, oh, she misses her children.
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She misses her child. She misses her grandchild.
That is so sweet of her to be like, oh, like I'm this
controlling woman and like, in order to get this money, oh, you
have to like, you know, care about me a little bit more.
And I was like, that is really sad, but also very
understandable why she would putthose conditions in place.
So I think I definitely understand that more.
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Yeah, I just, I love how this show is mostly, it's actually, I
know we've spent a lot of time talking about love interest, but
actually at the core of this show, it really is about the
female relationships. It's between Rory and Lorelei,
it's between Lorelei and Emily, it's between Rory and Emily.
It's just like it's so female and Suki, Lorelei and Suki.
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And actually, I can't say this for sure, but I think it maybe
fails the reverse Bechtel test where like anytime two men are
talking to each other, it's likevery rarely not about the women.
Oh, interesting. OK, I need to pay attention to
that. I think I will watch.
Yeah, it is. It's very slow, which I think
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like, you know, in modern TV it's just not the same pacing
anymore. And it's, you know, 22 episode
season, 7 seasons. So it is a very different pace,
but it's great. It's like a background show.
Yeah, I think I am looking forward to watching more under
stimulating things. This is perfect.
For that, yes, yeah, I've, I've gone through this phase even
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with like the music that I'm listening to recently.
It's like I'm, I've started listening to Circles by Mac
Miller, which I don't know if you've listened to the before,
but it's like so under stimulating, so mellow.
I think it might be like low keydepressed, like depressive song,
but it is very like low key. And I think that's the vibe that
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I'm in right now, which is probably why I enjoyed watching
the pilot, Yeah. Great.
Yeah, as an example, there is anentire episode where Rory's
storyline is trying to find a tree to study under.
That's sweet. You know, I think I've had that
conundrum before where I'm like,well, this patch of ground is a
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little too like dirt and not enough grass and like, this
patch of ground is a little damp, but like, where do I sit?
So I understand. Who is your favorite character
and why? Emily.
I think Emily is my favorite character.
See OK, I will say it does change from from watch through
to watch through. Right now I'm definitely on an
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Emily kick just cuz like I, I think I'm more just starting to
see everything from her perspective.
I kind of started at in Roy's perspective, then went to
Emily's or Lorelai's perspective, and now that I've
like lived in Lorelai's perspective for a while, I'm
like. Wait, Emily.
It's from her perspective, OK? She's a pretty strict mother,
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which I'm sure you can imagine, yes.
Then her daughter gets pregnant at 16.
Obviously Emily and Richard are in run in circles where that
does not happen. And so her whole life kind of
falls apart when Lorelei gets pregnant.
And then when Lorelei's baby is 1 year old, Lorelei just runs
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away from home and she doesn't know where she goes and she
never comes back. And she's just like trying to
get Lorelei back into her life. That's so scary.
I know. And so I really think everything
she does is with the goal of like getting Lorelei back into
her life, becoming close with Lorelei.
She just doesn't know how to communicate like that and is
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stuck in her own ways. So much like there's this
episode where she kind of manipulates Lorelai into doing a
spa weekend away with her, and that whole time she's kind of
like Lorelai. Like, I really want the
relationship that you and Rory have, blah, blah, blah.
They have a great time. And then something happens and
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she just snaps and starts blaming Lorelai for everything.
And then Lorelai's like, mom, you can't want the relationship
that me and Rory have if you're gonna react to things like this.
Like, it goes both ways. Yeah.
And so yeah, So I just, the lastfew watch throughs, I've just
really felt so bad for Emily. Yeah, oof.
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That hits close to home. I totally understand that.
Yeah. I think you'll really like this
show. The.
Mother daughter dynamics are so just so beautiful.
How do you think the mother daughter dynamics that you've
observed in Gilmore Girls has affected your own daughter
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mother dynamic or maybe will affect you in the future?
Oh, that's a good question. I, I think if I do have a
daughter, I think, well, I will say I, I think my mom did a
really great job raising me and my sister and I don't have too
many, I don't have too many complaints.
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But I think one thing that Lorelei does beautifully is just
like she says, we're friends 1stand mother and daughter 2nd.
And I really feel that like, when when Rory does sleep with
Dean, Lorelei does get angry at first, but then she's like, hey,
like, I'm sorry I reacted like that.
Let's pause. Let's just talk like, friends.
What happened? And like, she's so good at
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becoming part of Rory's world rather than like, forcing Rory
to understand her world in a waythat I think a lot of mothers
struggle with. I'm.
I'm sure also the smaller age difference helps with them.
Yeah. But yeah, I think she, she just
has so much empathy for what Rory's going through.
And she is like super protectiveof Rory and I admire that so
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much. Yeah, I think there must also be
like a really strong foundation of trust that the that the two
of them have, especially becauseLorelei was a single mom and
like, they only had each other for a really long time.
Yes. So I think that makes a lot of
sense. Yeah, yeah.
I can't imagine talking with my mom like friends could not I'm.
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Sure. Lorelei doesn't either.
Yeah, maybe one day, but I don'tknow.
OK, Are you ready for the next question?
Yeah, Power rank the seasons andgive your reasoning.
OK, so I will say, Yappers, I amvery biased towards the early
seasons because I just love whenRory's still living in Stars
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Hollow before she goes to Yale. And yeah, just everything about
that. So I would say season 3 was so
good. So I think that season is my
favorite. There was some banger episodes
in there. One of the episodes is directed
by Kenny Ortega, who directed High School Musical.
Yeah, we had a conversation. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
OK. I know a lot of.
I know. I told you a lot about.
I know. More about Gilmore Girls because
you've told me about it, but I would say it's less about the
plot and more about. Just like fun fact, fun facts.
Yeah. Yeah so season 3 she breaks up
with Dean and goes towards Jess,which is a huge very emotionally
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charged plot line Lorelei her inburns down she and Suki are like
trying to find the money to start their own in so that
happens they. Didn't get any from the
inheritance. No inheritance because Richard's
still alive. I think it's the perfect mix of
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the heartwarming steady state ofseasons 1 and 2 with some more
interesting plot lines. So that's why I love season 3.
Then I would say 2, then one because I honestly think when
Jess enters the show things get really interesting.
OK. Yeah, then I would say maybe 5
Season 5 is the early Luke and Lorelai days, so that's very
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sweet. OK, Rory is starts dating Logan,
and so that causes really interesting dynamics between
her, her mom and Emily because Emily and Richard are thrilled
that she's dating Logan Hunsberger.
I see Lorelai feels shoved out because Lorelai's like, this is
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not how I raised Rory. And so yeah, Lorelai kind of
spirals over that, but like, wants to be supportive,
especially after the whole Dean thing in season 4.
Yeah. And so, yeah.
So it's just like a very interesting, very interesting
dynamics. Then Season 4 because Lorelei is
dating Richard's business partner secretly and so there's
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a lot of drama around. That daddy long legs, daddy.
Long legs business partner. Uncle Long Leg, Yeah.
Correct, but he's her age. He's Lorelei's age.
OK, Yeah. Zaddy Long.
Zaddy long legs. Got there in the end.
And so that there's a huge falling out, a huge blow out
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from that. So yeah, I love that season.
OK, then 6 is not good and sevenis worse.
Yeah, wow. OK, So 321-5467.
Yeah. Wow.
OK, I'm excited. Maybe I maybe I'll just stop
watching after three Season 3. Yeah, maybe five.
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Yeah, maybe 75. Is that?
The end, maybe after a year in the life.
Maybe after I watch it 10 times through.
OK, the reason I hate season 6 and seven, well, first of all,
season 6, the first half of it is when Rory has dropped out of
Yale. She and her mom don't speak the
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whole first half of the season because she's dropped out of
Yale. So it feels really weird.
Yeah. She's living in Emily and
Richard's pool house. It's like not right, it's just
wrong. And then they do come.
They they reconcile in the middle of season 6, but then
Luke has a secret daughter that comes in season 6 and that
drives a rift between him and Lorelei.
(38:37):
I see. Yeah, so that whole season is a
mess. And then season 7, actually, Amy
Sherman Palladino and Dan Sherman or Dan Palladino leave
the show. And so it's written by the other
writers and it's not good. It's it, it feels like fan
fiction, it's so bad. Oh no, Oh my.
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Do you think Amy and Dan the Palladinos, do you think they
like tanked the show in season 6?
People say that, like, intentionally.
Yeah, people think that because what was their reasoning?
Oh, yeah. They think that they made Laura,
like, sleep with Christopher at the very end of Season 6 to,
like, screw over the Riders for Season 7.
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They're like, how are we gonna get Laura, Carol and Luke back
together? My God.
Obviously can't prove that. Don't hold me to that yappers,
but. It's Canon.
Look it up, open your eyes. Wow, that's crazy.
But like, is it? I mean, yeah, I guess the
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showrunners do have final say over things.
So I guess it is true that the writers would be like, Are you
sure? And then they would be like,
yes, like evil Kermit, do it. Wow, OK, well maybe I'll see.
It kind of feels like the Officewhen.
(40:03):
Like when Michael Scott leaves. Yeah, when Michael Scott leaves.
But even like one or two episodes after that, it's still
like a little bit like, oh, I guess it could maybe work.
But then soon after that, it's like, why are we still here?
Yeah, what are we doing here? So it's like a little bit of an
existential spiral, but yeah. Yeah, great, great.
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Next question, I guess question.I think this is the last
question. Oh, OK.
We kind of already covered this,but fuck marry, kill, Justine,
Logan and then also Christopher,Luke and Jason.
Who is Jason? Jason is.
Zaddy Long, uncle. Zaddy Long, Uncle Zaddy.
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I see Jason. Right, right, right.
OK, I don't I I have to see pictures of them.
In order to let's show you pictures.
Start with Justine Logan. Let's hopefully there's a
picture of all three of them. OK, Jess, Dean, Logan.
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Fuck Jess. Kill Dean.
Mary Logan. That is a correct answer.
Hell yeah. God I.
Think Yeah, that's a good answer.
You taught me well. OK, now let's see.
Luke, Christopher, Jason. That's.
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Mr. Luke Christopher, American rapper and singer.
OK, this is a meme, but all of them are in here.
OK, so this is Christopher. Or his dad.
OK. You know what Luke looks like?
Yeah. Luke is hot.
Yeah, Luke is hot, and that's Jason.
Kill Jason. Oh my God Jesus.
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I think I personally would marryChristopher, fuck Luke and kill
Jason. OK.
Is it the other way around for Luke and Christopher?
Yeah, yeah, only because like, Luke is Heart of gold and
Christopher is like rich fuck boy.
That makes sense, I think I justdon't like the backwards cap on
Luke. That's fair.
You can't live with that your whole life.
No, I cannot. Sorry, Luke.
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I know it's in the like. I know it's under there.
I saw that. So great.
Yeah. Right.
Well, I guess should we rate, there's no really there's no
point there. I think you're going to rate it
a 10 and then I would rate it like just on the pilot.
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Doing it on a scale of 1 to 10, the likelihood that you'll watch
through season 7 and let's maybelet's do season 3, what's the
likelihood you'll make it to theend of season 3?
By what timeline? Any timeline like in my life?
Hey, never say never. I mean, at some point I'm sure
I'll run out of TV and start watching Kill My Girls.
(43:00):
Don't insult my favorite. Show like that.
No, actually, I do feel I felt like it was a really nice cozy
show. Maybe I think like a 70%.
Wow, yeah, yeah, at least until the end of season 3 because the
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power ranking was so high. But I do think it depends on if
I make it to season 1 episode 2.I will say if I start season 1
episode 2 and finish that, then the likelihood is a lot higher.
If I don't use season 1 episode 2 it goes down to like.
You know what? This is like our episode
(43:42):
Retention Girl. Everyone starts.
That's just exactly what the curve looks like for watching
TVI made it through. I forced myself to make it
through. By the way, I think I've seen
the pilot or I've tried to startthe pilot at least three times
before, and then this is the only time that I've made it
through. So because of that, yeah,
(44:04):
because of that, my, my likelihood of completing season
1, episode 2 is a lot higher. OK, I'll give it a yeah.
What did I say? 70?
Yeah. Yeah, 70.
I'll give it a second. Great.
Great. Yeah.
There. What?
Well Yappers, happy fall. Go watch Gilmore Girls.
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Let us know if there's anything else you want us to discuss
about Gilmore Girls. Maybe we can do it Part 2 once
you've watched more. Yeah, maybe.
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Hey Yappers, Happy fall. We have a bit of an atypical
episode for you. Today we are covering one of my
favorite shows of all time, Gilmore Girls.
I have probably seen this show through close to 15 times and
Ruchi has only seen the pilot. I asked her to put together
predictions for what happens in all seven seasons of the show.
(00:22):
So we app about that. We app about all of the
beautiful and tragic mother daughter relationships and of
course weather career Team Dean,Team Jess or Team Logan.
Get a hot cup of coffee and settle in for this cozy
nostalgic episode. Hey Appers, welcome back to
(00:54):
Binge Apper P Today is the firstday of fall, September 21st, and
so to celebrate, Ruchi and I aregoing to be doing a special
episode on one of my favorite shows of all time, Gilmore
Girls. What we normally do for episodes
is we binge watch a show, then we talk about it, then we like
(01:17):
give a rating and then do like alittle binge in progress
segment. So this is going to be a new
format entirely where Shalini has watched the show Gilmore
Girls, well, like 10 times all the way through more than.
That probably a little more thanthat.
And I have only watched the first episode last night.
(01:40):
Is that actually the only episode you've ever?
Seen the only episode I've ever seen.
OK, maybe like snippets here andthere from what you've shown me,
but other than that I have only seen the first episode end to
end. Amazing, amazing.
So 1st I'm going to ask Ruchi togive us everything she knows
about this show. Yes, I know the title.
(02:03):
Great. That's a good start.
You're welcome. Then I'm going to have her do a
little pilot recap just what shelearned about the show, and then
I'm going to have her predict the entire show.
So I've given her a few prompts of what like questions that I
want her to answer when she thinks things will happen and
how they'll happen. And then we will go into more of
(02:26):
a discussion about the actual show and about specific
characters and stuff like that. Yeah, I'm excited all.
Right, me too. Happy fall.
OK, so Ruchi, do you want to start by just telling yappers
and me everything you know aboutthis show?
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The show is called Gilmore Girls.
It stars Rory and Lorelei. I know that Rory has like 3
different, at least three different guys who are like love
(03:07):
interests in her life. And I know that the Internet is
maybe conflicted about which team to be on.
There's no like, you know how. And then the summer I turned
pretty was like, it's obviously team Conrad by the end, but in
the middle it was like team Conrad, Team Jeremiah.
So I know that there are teams, there are camps.
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And I don't know if it's the same with Lorelei.
I don't see people talking aboutLorelai like they do for Rory.
So I'm I'm interested to see what team I should be on.
I want an opinion on that. I also know that Rory dropped
(03:49):
out of Yale because of that famous like Jeff, that's like,
how could you drop out of Yale? And I am also like, how could
you drop out of Yale? So I why did you drop out of.
Yeah, that one. Yes, exactly.
So I am interested to see who that was and why he said that to
her and why she dropped out in the first place.
(04:14):
So yeah, let me see what else I know about Gilmore Girls.
I I think that's pretty much it.To be fair, I have tried to
watch Gilmore Girls before and Ithink I've only made it like
halfway through the first episode before I've given up.
So this is the first time that Iwatch it all the way through.
And I will say I actually am excited about watching the rest
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of the season based on what I saw in the pilot.
Wow, yes. Wow.
I'd love to hear it. Beforehand, cuz I when I watched
the first episode before, I basically got to the part where
she didn't want to go to Chiltonanymore because she met Dean and
I was like really? Like you met this guy on your
last day of school and that's why you wanted like not go to
(04:59):
Chilton. So I judged her hardcore for
that. That's why I never watched it.
But after watching it all the way through, I see the appeal.
OK, great. The pilot is very sweet.
Yeah, it is very sweet. So with that being said, OK or
do you wanna? Do you wanna?
Go through like what? What happened in the pilot?
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Yes. Remind Yappers if it's been a
while since you watched Gilmore Girls.
OK, if it's been more than two days since you watched Gilmore
Girls, here's what happens in the first episode.
So Rory gets into Chilton. Lorelei goes to her parents to
beg for money. We realize that Lorelei comes
from a very wealthy family. She accepts their money on the
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condition that Rory and Lorelai go and do weekly dinners with
her parents. But then on her last day of
school, Rory meets this bad boy Dean, who and then doesn't want
to go to Chilton anymore. But I think in the end that she
is convinced to go to Chilton. I think that was unclear, but I
think she goes to children and then we find out that Rory's
(06:04):
dad, his name is Christopher andhe has his own Internet startup
and generally Lorelai and and the parents have a bad
relationship and they live in Stars Hollow and Melissa
McCarthy is there. Great recap.
Excellent. Yes.
Oh, and also we meet Patty, the dance instructor.
Yeah, Episode Patty. Yeah, cuz I remember you told me
(06:25):
about her when we were doing ourAT 12 recap.
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Miss Patty's Dance Studio.
That's right, Miss. Patty's dance studio makes my
parents all right. Great.
So that being said. So what do you think happens in
the rest of the seven seasons? I would love to tell you.
(06:47):
Okay, so one thing that you toldme, which I think was really
critical to wrap my framework around is that the show starts
with the beginning of her sophomore year of high school
and ends with the senior year ofcollege.
So I basically used that as my framework for seasons one
through 7. OK so in season 1 I say Rory and
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Dean get into a relationship, but then Rory gets in trouble
with Chilton for something that Dean did and her grandparents
have to intervene or something. And Rory loses her virginity to
Dean in this season because she's 16, and that's when
Lorelei gets pregnant with Rory's age, 16.
OK, out of everything you said. Everything is wrong.
(07:32):
You got one thing right Which? Is that?
She does lose her virginity to Dean.
Let's go. It's more complicated than that,
but we can get into that later. Whoa, it's more complicated.
OK, All right, Season 2 Rory is 17.
So my I think the overall theme for this season is that Rory
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struggles with her Rory from theblock attitude and wants to be
with Dean, but then goes to Chilton and finds some other boy
to be obsessed about at Chilton.I also say that Rory hangs out
with Christopher, her dad, and then tries to convince Lorelei
to get back together with her dad, Christopher and Lorelei and
Christopher date, but it doesn'tlast.
(08:18):
And then, just as a side note, the Stars Hollow Inn burns down.
Dude, OK, first of all, Rory, OK, wait, I'm trying to remember
what you said, because some of those things were right.
What? OK, some of those things were
right. OK, I'll just start from the
end. The Stars Hollow in or it's
sorry, it's actually called the independence in.
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Oh, it does burn down. No way.
Yes, but it's in season 3, no? Way.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
OK. Also towards the end of season 2
Lorelai and Christopher do try dating and it doesn't work.
(09:00):
It's like a two episode turn around.
Let's go, OK? The reason that I did the Stars
Hollow in Independence in Burns Down is because Melissa McCarthy
was such a mess and then they got a new stub in in season at
the end of the first episode. So I have a feeling if I can
make another prediction, I thinkit's the most McCarthy burns it
(09:20):
down. I.
Think they don't say slash? Maybe it was an electrical fire
or something, I don't, but it definitely wasn't Suki's fault.
Suki. OK, that's her name.
You got it. I see.
OK, so. OK, what else was right?
You said that, Rory. Finds some other boy.
Finds another boy at school. There is another boy at school
that really likes her. And actually in season 1 they
(09:43):
kiss. But then in Season 2, that boy
just like, is really into her still while she's with Dean, and
then Dean feels threatened so. And that boy is Chad Michael
Murray. Wow.
His name's Tristan in the show. Tristan, OK, Yeah, Tristan did
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not play a factor. Pass that season because he
actually leaves for One Tree Hill like midway through season
2. Oh.
Amazing. Great.
That's why he's not a factor in this.
OK, Season 3. OK, so like, this is my
prediction for season 1 and two.Season 3 through 7 is much
smaller, more vague. More vague because I'm like, I
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don't know if those things are right, but let's see, OK, Season
3, Rory's 18. She gets into Yale.
True. Hell yeah, Lorelei and Luke get
together. It doesn't happen.
Season 3. Come on.
OK this. OK, so this is kind of this is
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out there. I say that Lorelei's dad dies
and then Lorelai and Melissa McCarthy Zuki start their new in
with the inheritance from Lorelai's dad.
And that's why I went back to season 2 and I was like, it's
got to burn down, it's got to go.
Or maybe with the inheritance orthe insurance from the
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independence? I think the after the Yale
thing, everything else is wrong but Richard Lorelei's dad does
not die in the series, but he dies between the series and the
reboot A year in the life. So he does die in like in Canon
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everyone. 'S gotta die.
At some point, yeah. He does have some near death
experiences in season 1 and season 7 I think.
Oh. Yeah, like heart attack I.
Don't know. Yeah.
Brushes with death. He oldest book so that makes
sense. Wait, weren't you saying
something about the actor that the actor is like someone that
(11:51):
we've seen before or no? He he is a pretty famous guy.
His name is Edward Herman. This is crazy that you just know
this off the top of your head. What else has he been in?
Oh, he played FDR in Eleanor andFranklin.
He was. He was in Annie in the 1982
(12:14):
movie you played. Was it like money banks?
Yeah, like for Mr. Daddy. Long legs.
Daddy Fairbanks, Yeah, maybe he played that.
OK, well, I really just know himas Richard Gilmore.
Got it. Yeah.
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OK. Season 4.
Oh wait, so they don't, they don't start their new end at
this point in Season 3? They do not.
Damn OK season 4 Rory is 19, shegoes to Yale but has a bad time,
has no friends, whatever. Lorelei and Luke break up.
That's all I put for Season 4. OK, she does go to Yale.
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Great. That's about it.
Great. Actually, I would say she she
doesn't. Have a bad time, but she
definitely doesn't have the besttime, so give me that.
Let's go. Yeah, I should have put, I
should have been softer with my language.
Doesn't have a great time. OK but do Lorelei and Luke then
get together at this point? Yes, at the very end of Season
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4, they made us wait a long time.
Seriously, the moment that he showed up in the pilot, I was
like, their end game. Yeah, it's obvious.
It's so obvious. Oh, fun fact, those actors do
not get along with each other. Really.
It kind of seems like Lauren Graham doesn't love Scott
(13:45):
Patterson, but Scott Patterson would have been down to date
from what I've heard. His interviews on Gilmore Guys,
her interviews with like media, Yeah.
Why? OK OK so maybe this is like then
an off by one thing. So I'm gonna put my Lorelei and
Luke break up to season 5. OK.
(14:08):
OK, so that's the that's what I'm gonna put Lorelei and Luke
break up in season 5. Rory is 20.
Rory drops out of Yale for a boyand and oh and then I also say
Lorelei has to abandon her dreamof the new in to bail Rory out
for whatever situation Rory has gotten into herself.
(14:30):
I don't. Know OK Lorelei and Luke do
break up in season 5 but they also got back together.
Oh come on, I put that in season6 then.
Rory, that is at the very end ofseason 5 is when Rory drops out
of Yale. Oh, OK.
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And then season 6 is when Jess, who was actually introduced in
season 2, comes back into her life.
Wait, who's Jess? Yeah, you didn't get there.
No, Jess is not a Chilton guy. Right.
That's that was Tristan. That was Tristan, OK Jess is
Luke's nephew that comes to staywith him in Season 2.
(15:11):
I see. And then he and Rory have a ton
of chemistry that drives a wedgebetween her and Dean.
I see. Yeah, Anyway, so he.
A lot of wedges between her and Dean.
Yeah, Dean was a jealous boy. He's not in the show in season 5
at all, I think Jess. But then in season 6 he comes
back. They've spent like a lot of time
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apart, at least over 2 years. And then he sees that her life
is so different. He's like, why did you drop out
of Yale? Oh, that's Jess.
OK, Got it. Great.
That changes a lot of things here.
I, like, completely forgot aboutthat boy.
I should have been like, yeah, anyway, he did not play a factor
(15:55):
in this. OK, what?
Are we on Season 6? Yeah.
OK, so Season 6 Rory is 21. I say that Rory breaks up with
Boy Capital B but doesn't want to go back to Yale.
And then that's where I was thinking that the why did you
drop out of Yale? Happened, But I didn't know who
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that person was. OK.
And that's all I had for Season 6.
Great, so season 6 she does break up with her boyfriend at
the time, whose name is Logan. OK.
He's a Yale boy. I see.
And they're together for most ofthe season.
And then they she, like, decidesto go back to Yale.
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Because of Logan. No.
So why did she drop out of Yale?OK, so in the middle of season 5
she starts dating Logan. His family invites her over for
dinner and his family is like billionaires because they run
like a huge media company. His dad runs a huge media
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company. She wants to be a journalist.
And so when she comes over for dinner, they like, super
overreact to Logan dating her. And they're like, she's not of
good breeding. And like, you know, they they
like, really freak out even though her grandparents are
like, so rich, but they're not like Hunsberger rich.
Yeah. And so then to make up for that,
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Logan's dad hires her on as an intern at one of his newspapers.
But then a few weeks later he has a one one-on-one with her
and is like, you don't have whatit takes.
Yeah, sorry. Some people have it and you
don't. Oh my God.
I. Know what happened to nepo
babies? I know.
And so then she freaks out, has a huge crash out and drops out
(17:47):
of heel. Oh.
My gosh, she's like, oh, I was on this path my whole life and
like, no, I don't know what to do.
So anyway, then she's still dating Logan this whole time she
takes the semester off. She starts working at her
grandmother's like the the Daughters of the American
Revolution, which is a real thing.
Yeah, actually I have heard of this, yes.
(18:09):
But yeah, she starts like volunteering with them and then
one semester and she just like, gets sick of it and, and Jess
comes back into her life and she's like, why did you drop out
of Yale? And not just like, does
something to her. And then she's like, Oh my God,
I need to get a job, I need to go back to school, blah, blah,
blah. And then she goes back.
Yeah, good job, Jess. Yeah, good for you, my team,
(18:31):
Jazz. OK, don't tell me.
OK, OK. And then Season 7 Rory is now
22. She goes back to Yale and she
graduates and ends up with Dean Question mark.
I don't know anyone else at thispoint.
And then and then I put Lorelei and Luke get together in season
7 and then stay together. So that happens in season 6
(18:53):
actually. And then they stay together
until Season 7. So they break up and get back
together within like 4 episodes of season 5.
OK, then they're together for the rest of season 5 and all of
season 6. OK then at the very end of
season 6 Laura like cheats on him with Christopher.
Christopher. I guess technically it wasn't
(19:16):
cheating because she gives him an ultimatum, and then he's
like, I can't do that right now.And then she storms out and then
sleeps with Christopher. Yeah, Laura, like.
And then they're broken up for all the episodes of Season 7
until the very, very end. And then they get together at
the end. They like, kiss and that's the
last scene of the show. OK, well I guess we're team Luke
(19:42):
for Lorelei for the most part, That makes sense.
So for Rory, I guess I'm Team Jess based on what you said, but
I'm not sure. Limited information.
What team should I be on? OK, so yoppers, I'm actually not
100% team Jess because so they start dating.
(20:07):
Season 3, Episode 7. OK Wow.
Yeah. After this dance marathon.
And so when they start dating, they only date for from Season
3, Episode 8 all the way throughclose to the end of that season.
And he's a terrible boyfriend toher.
She loves going to all the town things, but then he never wants
to go to them. And then she's like, but you
(20:27):
always. You came to the basket thing
when I was dating Dean. You came to this, You came to
that. And he's like, yeah, that's what
I was trying to get you. Now I have you.
Yeah, yeah. So.
Rude. And then there's this one
episode where, like, they were planning on doing something
Friday night, but he doesn't call.
So then she's just sitting around all day.
And then she pretends like she'snot mad at him.
(20:49):
Then he still doesn't call untilSaturday.
And then she's like, fine, I'm just like, gonna go hang out
with my friend. And then yeah.
And then anyway. So he doesn't treat her very
well in that way. I will say I think they are the
best match out of her three guys.
So there's Dean, who was first boyfriend Jess, and then Logan.
(21:13):
And then Logan, though, I think was the best boyfriend to her.
But I don't think they're the perfect match.
Yeah, because I just think she'snot herself around him and she
just cosplays this, I don't know, trophy wife kind of person
when she's with him versus with Jess.
She was just her book for himself.
(21:34):
Yeah, OK, yeah. Can we excuse the bad behavior
because they are? Chex notes 17.
At this point so I think so and Jess had a pretty tough
upbringing too. His mom was pretty absent and
his dad was also absent and so that's why he goes to live with
Luke in the 1st place. I see.
So he was a troubled kid. He was going through a lot.
(21:55):
You know, we give him a pass forthat.
Yeah, right. OK.
I think so. I mean, I still, I have a lot of
love for Jess. OK, Yeah, we are officially Team
Jess. Good to know what side I'm on
now. Great.
Oh. Do you wanna hear how she loses
her virginity? Yeah, I wanna wait.
(22:16):
What is this complicated situation?
So she kisses Tristan. Tristan.
That's in Season 1. OK, flash forward to Season 3.
What? Yeah, so she's dating Jess.
OK Dean is furious. Basically for half of season 2
(22:36):
and the beginning of season 3, she's like obviously into Jess
but won't drop Dean. And she's, yeah, she's just like
stringing Dean along. Then after she and Jess get
together, Dean, like pretty soonafter that, starts dating a New
Girl named Lindsay. And then Dean and Jess get in a
fight at a a house party. Suspiciously, right after that,
(22:59):
he proposes to Lindsay senior year of high school.
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, they got married.
What? She said Yes, Yeah.
They get married at the beginning of Season 4, and then
all of Season 4, he and Rory kind of rekindle their
(23:20):
friendship, and then she sleeps with him and he's cheating on
his wife with her. Yeah.
No. That's how she loses her
virginity. Wait but I thought this was
season one that she loses her virginity?
No, that's what you. Thought OK I see what you're
saying, she does lose her virginity to Dean, but it's not
(23:42):
in season 1, it's in season 3. At the end of Season 4.
At the end of season 4 when he'sa married man.
Yes, he's been a married man, like almost the entire season.
Oh my God, have you seen that? Clip where she's like my Dean,
he's my Dean. No, OK.
OK, that chews up a lot on my social media.
(24:04):
But anyway, that's her telling her mom like he loves me, he's
my Dean. And then Lorelai's like, he's
not your Dean, he's Lindsay's Dean.
That's very yeah. Oh, Rory, I know.
If I did see that, I was probably like, is this like the
Yale Dean, the. Dean of Yale.
(24:25):
Universe Dean of Yale, My Dean, My list, my Dean's list.
Pick me, Choose me for the Dean's List.
Oh, OK, so it's not it's Dean. Got it.
(24:45):
OK, great. Yeah.
Wow. So I I'm like, definitely not
Team Dean. That's great.
Cool. Yeah.
OK, so now we have some other questions.
OK, about Gilmore Girls in general.
OK, Yeah. So Shalini, you've probably
spent 10,000 consumption hours watching Gilmore Girls.
(25:10):
Can you tell me why do you thinkyou've watched it so many times?
I think it's a few things. One is definitely nostalgia, so
I can understand why someone watching the show for the first
time right now would not be as into it as I am.
I totally get that a big part ofit is nostalgia.
(25:31):
That being said, I also think I love it because it feels very
cozy. All of seasons, at least one
through 3, feel just like this utopian town where everything's
just, like, so perfect and cute and adorable.
The Gilmore Girls are just, like, having a good time.
They have, like, fun banter. So I feel like it's just a very
(25:54):
cozy show where I can just, like, escape normal life.
And I know exactly what's gonna happen.
It's never too dramatic. Like, you know, it's just like a
very steady state slice of life kind of show.
Yeah. Did you used to watch it when I
was like, airing on TV? No, actually I, I watched a few
episodes then, but I, I watched it all senior year college,
which is when it came on Netflix.
(26:16):
And then from then on I just, I kept watching it and, and what's
interesting is that every time Iwatch it, I start to form
different opinions. Really.
The first few times through I was totally Team Dean, actually.
Really. Yeah.
Cuz in the beginning they show that he treats her really well
compared to Jess. For sure.
(26:37):
He's not. He's actually not a bad boy at
all. He's sweetheart boy that is
really nice to Lorelei and comesover and just hangs out with the
two of them and totally respectstheir dynamic and stuff in the
beginning. And then he starts getting
jealous. But yeah, so I was like, oh,
like, Dean's something nice. And then later I was like,
actually, he's like a little controlling.
(26:58):
He starts to get a little controlling in Season 2.
And actually Jess really gets her, like, he knows how to
support her. And so yeah, just stuff like
that, I started changing. Do you think?
That was a result of like you personally growing up and
understanding the world more? Or was it just like things you
noticed in the show more and more?
(27:20):
Maybe a little bit of both. I do think there's an element of
me just growing up and like wanting a different kind of
partner for myself over time. And also, I think there are
layers to this show where at first something seems a certain
way, and then the next time you watch it you're like, hmm,
actually, I don't know, maybe this is what they were trying to
(27:40):
show. I see.
Yeah, I love that. Like, your own life experiences
shape how you watch and enjoy the show Even so many years
later. Yeah.
And so many like iteration. Actor and I used to find Emily
the grandmother so horrid and now she's like my favorite
character. Really.
(28:03):
Yeah, I understand that. I understand that a lot.
I think when I watched the firstepisode where she was like, oh,
yeah, we can give you the money on the condition that you have
to come and call us and you alsohave to come and eat dinner with
us on a weekly basis. I think now living far away from
my parents, I'm like, oh, she misses her children.
(28:26):
She misses her child. She misses her grandchild.
That is so sweet of her to be like, oh, like I'm this
controlling woman and like, in order to get this money, oh, you
have to like, you know, care about me a little bit more.
And I was like, that is really sad, but also very
understandable why she would putthose conditions in place.
So I think I definitely understand that more.
(28:47):
Yeah, I just, I love how this show is mostly, it's actually, I
know we've spent a lot of time talking about love interest, but
actually at the core of this show, it really is about the
female relationships. It's between Rory and Lorelei,
it's between Lorelei and Emily, it's between Rory and Emily.
It's just like it's so female and Suki, Lorelei and Suki.
(29:09):
And actually, I can't say this for sure, but I think it maybe
fails the reverse Bechtel test where like anytime two men are
talking to each other, it's likevery rarely not about the women.
Oh, interesting. OK, I need to pay attention to
that. I think I will watch.
Yeah, it is. It's very slow, which I think
(29:32):
like, you know, in modern TV it's just not the same pacing
anymore. And it's, you know, 22 episode
season, 7 seasons. So it is a very different pace,
but it's great. It's like a background show.
Yeah, I think I am looking forward to watching more under
stimulating things. This is perfect.
For that, yes, yeah, I've, I've gone through this phase even
(29:55):
with like the music that I'm listening to recently.
It's like I'm, I've started listening to Circles by Mac
Miller, which I don't know if you've listened to the before,
but it's like so under stimulating, so mellow.
I think it might be like low keydepressed, like depressive song,
but it is very like low key. And I think that's the vibe that
(30:17):
I'm in right now, which is probably why I enjoyed watching
the pilot, Yeah. Great.
Yeah, as an example, there is anentire episode where Rory's
storyline is trying to find a tree to study under.
That's sweet. You know, I think I've had that
conundrum before where I'm like,well, this patch of ground is a
(30:37):
little too like dirt and not enough grass and like, this
patch of ground is a little damp, but like, where do I sit?
So I understand. Who is your favorite character
and why? Emily.
I think Emily is my favorite character.
See OK, I will say it does change from from watch through
to watch through. Right now I'm definitely on an
(30:59):
Emily kick just cuz like I, I think I'm more just starting to
see everything from her perspective.
I kind of started at in Roy's perspective, then went to
Emily's or Lorelai's perspective, and now that I've
like lived in Lorelai's perspective for a while, I'm
like. Wait, Emily.
It's from her perspective, OK? She's a pretty strict mother,
(31:20):
which I'm sure you can imagine, yes.
Then her daughter gets pregnant at 16.
Obviously Emily and Richard are in run in circles where that
does not happen. And so her whole life kind of
falls apart when Lorelei gets pregnant.
And then when Lorelei's baby is 1 year old, Lorelei just runs
(31:41):
away from home and she doesn't know where she goes and she
never comes back. And she's just like trying to
get Lorelei back into her life. That's so scary.
I know. And so I really think everything
she does is with the goal of like getting Lorelei back into
her life, becoming close with Lorelei.
She just doesn't know how to communicate like that and is
(32:03):
stuck in her own ways. So much like there's this
episode where she kind of manipulates Lorelai into doing a
spa weekend away with her, and that whole time she's kind of
like Lorelai. Like, I really want the
relationship that you and Rory have, blah, blah, blah.
They have a great time. And then something happens and
(32:23):
she just snaps and starts blaming Lorelai for everything.
And then Lorelai's like, mom, you can't want the relationship
that me and Rory have if you're gonna react to things like this.
Like, it goes both ways. Yeah.
And so yeah, So I just, the lastfew watch throughs, I've just
really felt so bad for Emily. Yeah, oof.
(32:45):
That hits close to home. I totally understand that.
Yeah. I think you'll really like this
show. The.
Mother daughter dynamics are so just so beautiful.
How do you think the mother daughter dynamics that you've
observed in Gilmore Girls has affected your own daughter
(33:07):
mother dynamic or maybe will affect you in the future?
Oh, that's a good question. I, I think if I do have a
daughter, I think, well, I will say I, I think my mom did a
really great job raising me and my sister and I don't have too
many, I don't have too many complaints.
(33:27):
But I think one thing that Lorelei does beautifully is just
like she says, we're friends 1stand mother and daughter 2nd.
And I really feel that like, when when Rory does sleep with
Dean, Lorelei does get angry at first, but then she's like, hey,
like, I'm sorry I reacted like that.
Let's pause. Let's just talk like, friends.
What happened? And like, she's so good at
(33:50):
becoming part of Rory's world rather than like, forcing Rory
to understand her world in a waythat I think a lot of mothers
struggle with. I'm.
I'm sure also the smaller age difference helps with them.
Yeah. But yeah, I think she, she just
has so much empathy for what Rory's going through.
And she is like super protectiveof Rory and I admire that so
(34:13):
much. Yeah, I think there must also be
like a really strong foundation of trust that the that the two
of them have, especially becauseLorelei was a single mom and
like, they only had each other for a really long time.
Yes. So I think that makes a lot of
sense. Yeah, yeah.
I can't imagine talking with my mom like friends could not I'm.
(34:36):
Sure. Lorelei doesn't either.
Yeah, maybe one day, but I don'tknow.
OK, Are you ready for the next question?
Yeah, Power rank the seasons andgive your reasoning.
OK, so I will say, Yappers, I amvery biased towards the early
seasons because I just love whenRory's still living in Stars
(34:58):
Hollow before she goes to Yale. And yeah, just everything about
that. So I would say season 3 was so
good. So I think that season is my
favorite. There was some banger episodes
in there. One of the episodes is directed
by Kenny Ortega, who directed High School Musical.
Yeah, we had a conversation. Yeah.
(35:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
OK. I know a lot of.
I know. I told you a lot about.
I know. More about Gilmore Girls because
you've told me about it, but I would say it's less about the
plot and more about. Just like fun fact, fun facts.
Yeah. Yeah so season 3 she breaks up
with Dean and goes towards Jess,which is a huge very emotionally
(35:42):
charged plot line Lorelei her inburns down she and Suki are like
trying to find the money to start their own in so that
happens they. Didn't get any from the
inheritance. No inheritance because Richard's
still alive. I think it's the perfect mix of
(36:03):
the heartwarming steady state ofseasons 1 and 2 with some more
interesting plot lines. So that's why I love season 3.
Then I would say 2, then one because I honestly think when
Jess enters the show things get really interesting.
OK. Yeah, then I would say maybe 5
Season 5 is the early Luke and Lorelai days, so that's very
(36:26):
sweet. OK, Rory is starts dating Logan,
and so that causes really interesting dynamics between
her, her mom and Emily because Emily and Richard are thrilled
that she's dating Logan Hunsberger.
I see Lorelai feels shoved out because Lorelai's like, this is
(36:46):
not how I raised Rory. And so yeah, Lorelai kind of
spirals over that, but like, wants to be supportive,
especially after the whole Dean thing in season 4.
Yeah. And so, yeah.
So it's just like a very interesting, very interesting
dynamics. Then Season 4 because Lorelei is
dating Richard's business partner secretly and so there's
(37:08):
a lot of drama around. That daddy long legs, daddy.
Long legs business partner. Uncle Long Leg, Yeah.
Correct, but he's her age. He's Lorelei's age.
OK, Yeah. Zaddy Long.
Zaddy long legs. Got there in the end.
And so that there's a huge falling out, a huge blow out
(37:31):
from that. So yeah, I love that season.
OK, then 6 is not good and sevenis worse.
Yeah, wow. OK, So 321-5467.
Yeah. Wow.
OK, I'm excited. Maybe I maybe I'll just stop
watching after three Season 3. Yeah, maybe five.
(37:52):
Yeah, maybe 75. Is that?
The end, maybe after a year in the life.
Maybe after I watch it 10 times through.
OK, the reason I hate season 6 and seven, well, first of all,
season 6, the first half of it is when Rory has dropped out of
Yale. She and her mom don't speak the
(38:14):
whole first half of the season because she's dropped out of
Yale. So it feels really weird.
Yeah. She's living in Emily and
Richard's pool house. It's like not right, it's just
wrong. And then they do come.
They they reconcile in the middle of season 6, but then
Luke has a secret daughter that comes in season 6 and that
drives a rift between him and Lorelei.
(38:37):
I see. Yeah, so that whole season is a
mess. And then season 7, actually, Amy
Sherman Palladino and Dan Sherman or Dan Palladino leave
the show. And so it's written by the other
writers and it's not good. It's it, it feels like fan
fiction, it's so bad. Oh no, Oh my.
(38:59):
Do you think Amy and Dan the Palladinos, do you think they
like tanked the show in season 6?
People say that, like, intentionally.
Yeah, people think that because what was their reasoning?
Oh, yeah. They think that they made Laura,
like, sleep with Christopher at the very end of Season 6 to,
like, screw over the Riders for Season 7.
(39:21):
They're like, how are we gonna get Laura, Carol and Luke back
together? My God.
Obviously can't prove that. Don't hold me to that yappers,
but. It's Canon.
Look it up, open your eyes. Wow, that's crazy.
But like, is it? I mean, yeah, I guess the
(39:43):
showrunners do have final say over things.
So I guess it is true that the writers would be like, Are you
sure? And then they would be like,
yes, like evil Kermit, do it. Wow, OK, well maybe I'll see.
It kind of feels like the Officewhen.
(40:03):
Like when Michael Scott leaves. Yeah, when Michael Scott leaves.
But even like one or two episodes after that, it's still
like a little bit like, oh, I guess it could maybe work.
But then soon after that, it's like, why are we still here?
Yeah, what are we doing here? So it's like a little bit of an
existential spiral, but yeah. Yeah, great, great.
(40:26):
Next question, I guess question.I think this is the last
question. Oh, OK.
We kind of already covered this,but fuck marry, kill, Justine,
Logan and then also Christopher,Luke and Jason.
Who is Jason? Jason is.
Zaddy Long, uncle. Zaddy Long, Uncle Zaddy.
(40:49):
I see Jason. Right, right, right.
OK, I don't I I have to see pictures of them.
In order to let's show you pictures.
Start with Justine Logan. Let's hopefully there's a
picture of all three of them. OK, Jess, Dean, Logan.
(41:09):
Fuck Jess. Kill Dean.
Mary Logan. That is a correct answer.
Hell yeah. God I.
Think Yeah, that's a good answer.
You taught me well. OK, now let's see.
Luke, Christopher, Jason. That's.
(41:30):
Mr. Luke Christopher, American rapper and singer.
OK, this is a meme, but all of them are in here.
OK, so this is Christopher. Or his dad.
OK. You know what Luke looks like?
Yeah. Luke is hot.
Yeah, Luke is hot, and that's Jason.
Kill Jason. Oh my God Jesus.
(41:53):
I think I personally would marryChristopher, fuck Luke and kill
Jason. OK.
Is it the other way around for Luke and Christopher?
Yeah, yeah, only because like, Luke is Heart of gold and
Christopher is like rich fuck boy.
That makes sense, I think I justdon't like the backwards cap on
Luke. That's fair.
You can't live with that your whole life.
No, I cannot. Sorry, Luke.
(42:14):
I know it's in the like. I know it's under there.
I saw that. So great.
Yeah. Right.
Well, I guess should we rate, there's no really there's no
point there. I think you're going to rate it
a 10 and then I would rate it like just on the pilot.
(42:36):
Doing it on a scale of 1 to 10, the likelihood that you'll watch
through season 7 and let's maybelet's do season 3, what's the
likelihood you'll make it to theend of season 3?
By what timeline? Any timeline like in my life?
Hey, never say never. I mean, at some point I'm sure
I'll run out of TV and start watching Kill My Girls.
(43:00):
Don't insult my favorite. Show like that.
No, actually, I do feel I felt like it was a really nice cozy
show. Maybe I think like a 70%.
Wow, yeah, yeah, at least until the end of season 3 because the
(43:20):
power ranking was so high. But I do think it depends on if
I make it to season 1 episode 2.I will say if I start season 1
episode 2 and finish that, then the likelihood is a lot higher.
If I don't use season 1 episode 2 it goes down to like.
You know what? This is like our episode
(43:42):
Retention Girl. Everyone starts.
That's just exactly what the curve looks like for watching
TVI made it through. I forced myself to make it
through. By the way, I think I've seen
the pilot or I've tried to startthe pilot at least three times
before, and then this is the only time that I've made it
through. So because of that, yeah,
(44:04):
because of that, my, my likelihood of completing season
1, episode 2 is a lot higher. OK, I'll give it a yeah.
What did I say? 70?
Yeah. Yeah, 70.
I'll give it a second. Great.
Great. Yeah.
There. What?
Well Yappers, happy fall. Go watch Gilmore Girls.
(44:26):
Let us know if there's anything else you want us to discuss
about Gilmore Girls. Maybe we can do it Part 2 once
you've watched more. Yeah, maybe.
And happy season 3 of Benji app Repeat.
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