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Hey yappers, welcome back to Binge Yap Repeat.
Today we are yapping all about Prime Videos new psychological
thriller drama The Girlfriend starring Robin Wright and Olivia
Cook. We yap all about the differences
between the book and the show, the dual narratives we got to
see, and what that tells us about the truth and why
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convincing your son's girlfriendhe's dead would never work in
real life. Get ready, our episode starts
now. Welcome to Season 3.
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Whoa. Oh wait, was like was Gilmore
Girl season. Yeah.
Oh, welcome to our first Canon episode of Season 3.
Yeah, season 3 episode 2. Hell yeah.
Shalini, have you ever not gotten along with your partner's
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parents? Literally never happened to me.
How about you? No.
OK. Well, that doesn't stop us from
watching this episode's show, which is The Girlfriend.
The Girlfriend is a psychological thriller
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television miniseries on Amazon Prime Video directed by Robin
Wright and Andrea Harkin. It is based on Michelle
Francis's novel. The miniseries stars Robin
Wright, Olivia Cook and Laurie Davidson, and it premiered on
September 10th, 2025. The premise of the Girlfriend is
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Laura, who is played by Robin Wright, also of the House of
Cards fame. House of Cards, right?
Yes, House of Cards fame meets her son's new girlfriend Cherry,
and suffice to say, they do not get along.
No, they do not. They do not.
What did you think? I really liked this show.
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It really hit everything I love about ATV show.
There was a romance, there was some suspense, there was rich
people you know, I love watchingshows about rich people and
their problems. You definitely do.
Rich people and their path to doom.
Yeah. So, yeah, I, I loved it.
I also liked how I've been describing it to people actually
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as kind of like beef. Do you remember that show Beef
on Netflix? Yeah.
Kind of like Beef but without the comedy, where each one
escalates the situation further and further.
And I absolutely loved Beef. And so yeah, I love that about
the show. I just loved how the story
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unfolded. And I thought the ending, I was
not expecting the ending, which is cool.
So I was happy with it. How about you?
I also really liked it. So when I watched the trailer to
the girlfriend, as many, maybe most of the yappers who are
watching the girlfriend also sawthis while they were watching
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the summer I turned pretty. And so summer I turned pretty to
the girlfriend pipeline I think is actually quite high.
But anyway, so while I was watching the trailer to the
girlfriend, I just thought it was about Laura, the mom's
perspective about how she doesn't like Cherry.
And it's like her trying to unveil the back story of Cherry
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and like she's actually proven right at the end and that Cherry
is some like horrible person, whatever the case may be.
But what I was surprised about is that in the show, it's
actually a dual perspective. So it is Laura's perspective.
And Laura definitely has this perspective about Cherry hiding
something and actually being a terrible person.
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But then it also has Cherry's perspective on how Laura is
overbearing and smothering and but she's just like trying to
date her son Daniel in peace. And they really love each other,
but it's like the mom who's crazy.
So I really loved how there weresome certain key scenes that
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were just so different in each other's.
Eyes. Yeah, that was surprising to me
because I I was similarly surprised that we were getting
both perspectives. I was actually expecting it to
be more like, did you ever watchthat horror movie The
Stepfather? No.
OK, it had Penn Badgley in it and he's like this teenage son
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and his mom starts dating this guy and he is really sauce of
this guy and turns out this guy is a serial killer and it's all
from his perspective and he's trying to like uncover the truth
and show his mom that he's not. So it was similar premise from
the other perspective. And so I was expecting it to be
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more like that, but then I was so surprised to get Cherry's
perspective also. And I was like, oh, what are
they going to show here? Is the is the twist going to be
that Laura's the crazy one? Which, I mean, some could argue
yes. Also, I think they're both
crazy. Yes, I agree.
I was like, OK, you know how some people when they date, they
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like look for things and their partner that kind of remind them
of their parents? I was like, Daniel's got a type
and it's crazy. I was like, no wonder crazy
women like his mom. Yeah, exactly.
I was like, no wonder he likes Cherry, because Cherry's bat
shit and so is his mom. Yes.
Yeah, Yeah, I they were very similar in many ways.
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Just like the lengths that they would go to for their loved ones
was crazy. Yeah, but I I felt a little
underwhelmed by the ending, actually.
The very end like the the when Daniel killed Laura or OK.
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The very ending or the scene after that?
OK, yeah. Where there's like a time jump.
And yes, Daniel has listened to the message that Cherry's mom
has said about Cherry. And then he like, looks at
Cherry and horror like it was some huge revealing thing about
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Cherry. But I'm like, I don't really
think that the message that he listened to was that
incriminating. And also Daniel was the one who
killed his mom. So it's not like Cherry, like
secretly killed his mom and thenwas like, oh, so like, you did
it actually, it wasn't like a big secret.
So that's why I was like, I don't understand why he has such
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a like, shocking revelation about this message.
That's true. That is true.
Maybe his reaction was more likethe whole time my mom was trying
to convince me that she's crazy.She was right and she had a
right to think that she's crazy,but not like a she's the one
that caused my mother's death. Maybe.
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Yeah, maybe. But yeah.
OK. Yeah.
So I maybe it was that. Maybe it was like, oh, Cherry is
not completely innocent, but it's not like her mom was like,
oh, yeah. By the way, Cherry was the one
who broke into your gallery, wrote liar over everything, and
was the one who convinced her employee to, like, sue her.
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Like her mom didn't say anythingabout that.
Her mom said something like, oh,just like when Cherry has her
eyes set on something, like she always gets it.
And then like she eventually will come to you with something
that you're not prepared to give.
And then when she does, like she'll get rid of you.
And then he's like. Right, he.
Was like why wait? You're so right.
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You're so right. I was like.
That I, I mean, yeah, like what?I mean, OK.
She's the mother of your child now, so like, you got to work
with her. What you going to do bro?
Yeah. So I think up until that point,
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I really, really liked it. And then that last scene kind of
just lost me in the end. That's very fair.
Very fair. You were thinking much more
critically about this than I was.
I was like, He finally knows. And I was like, he finally knows
what? He doesn't know anything.
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Yeah, But maybe maybe you're right.
Maybe he that does lead him to, like, start digging into
Cherry's past a little bit more.But even then like you could
argue that a lot of what Cherry does is justified ish.
Like she acts on injustices thatare made against her, yes and
she doesn't. She doesn't just take things
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lying down. She does not, and I feel like
it's very hard to prove a lot ofthe things that she's done.
Yeah, yeah. So I know.
I, I thought it was, I thought it was a good watch until that
point. I, I definitely felt like
addicted to it or I was like, I need to watch the next episode
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and no need to know what's coming next.
Yes. Absolutely same.
OK. I did have a question for you.
One thing that was confused about.
OK, so you know how like they kept shifting the perspectives
back and forth, right? So it would be Cherry's
perspective and Laura's perspective, etcetera.
And then you would see how things played out from each of
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their vantage points. There was a scene when they were
in Spain where I feel like we got Laura's perspective, but we
didn't get cherries. So Cherry is paddle boarding and
she gets knocked off her paddle board and she's like thrashing
in the ocean. And it was a scene that was
pretty prevalent in the trailer,too.
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And then from Cherry's perspective, she's like
thrashing in the ocean. And then Laura's just like
watching her thrash, but then from Laura's perspective, like
the next episode begins and it'sLaura's perspective.
And Laura like immediately like goes out and like swims out and
like tries to save her and like saves her and like brings her
back to the boat. And then they have a wonderful
like mother daughter scene wherethey're like shopping in Spain
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and whatever. But then there's like more
Laura's perspective. She finds out about her ex,
about how she about how Cherry sabotage her ex's wedding with
like the she part or something. And then it comes to confront
Cherry and then finds Cherry just like swimming in the pool.
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And then Laura's like, oh, so you can swim because at the time
that Laura rescued Cherry, Cherry was like, Oh my God,
don't tell anyone I can't swim. But then we never got an answer
from that from Cherry's perspective.
Yeah, I'm not sure, because I did feel that the end of the
previous episode was from Cherry's perspective, right when
she falls into the water and youkind of glance back and you can
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see Laura on the boat, like unmoving, basically just
watching Cherry drown. And then it switches in the next
episode to Laura's perspective. So yeah, I guess I don't know
why we didn't get I feel like they were a little inconsistent
about showing us both perspectives and like what
happened in both perspectives because it wasn't like we real
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like literally rewatched the episode from the other ones
perspective. It would it would they would
kind of like pick and choose scenes, you know, so we didn't
always get both perspectives. So maybe it was just that that
was like pretty explainable. I think it's good that they
showed from Cherry's perspective, Laura hesitated to
go save her. And then from Laura's
perspective, she's like, I jumped in right away to save
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her. So I'm glad we got that from
both sides. But then I wonder if there would
have been any benefit to showingthe pool scene from Cherry's
perspective, or if it's just like, yeah, she, she pretended
not to be able to swim, you know?
Yeah, I guess. Like that's what I'm confused
about. I was like, was Cherry actually
in danger of drowning? Like, no.
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So then it made sense that she didn't jump in immediately to
save her. I don't know, I was like very
confused about. That Oh, I do think, I do think
Cherry made it seem like she wasdrowning from both perspectives
that we saw of that scene. So I don't think Laura jumped in
for no reason. And so I think Cherry did
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intentionally pretend to drown to make Laura come get her or
like to, you know, just to test Laura or to test Daniel or
whoever. Just test people.
Yeah, yeah, I do think that was it.
Yeah, maybe that was it. She was like trying to make a
scene so that Daniel would be like, Oh my God, Cherry, are you
OK? And then he didn't, so there is
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no point. Yeah, Daniel was so aloof.
I'm actually like Team Daniel isthe villain a little bit because
he just, he wouldn't listen to either of them.
I feel like, you know, and he just chose to turn a blind eye.
It actually reminded me this is an unhinged analogy, but it
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reminded me of Selling Sunset where Jason, like anytime
there's an issue between two women in the firm and they come
to Jason, he's like, just deal with it yourselves.
And it's like, that's your job as a manager to deal with things
like this, but like interpersonal issues with your
employees. Similarly, Daniel, it's your job
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to make sure that these two women who are very important to
you get along. Like you can't just put it all
on them and like, make both of them feel crazy.
Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, we kind of talked about
this while we were watching the show, but Daniel is a total Raja
Beta, which is yeah. So yappers for those of you who
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don't know Raja beta in in Hindi, it kind of means like
Prince son, something like that.I don't know.
It's basically a term used for Indian mothers who really,
really dough on their first bornsons generally.
And they just like dough on them.
They never have to lift a fingerat home.
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Like they don't know how to do laundry.
They don't know how to do household chores, whatever the
case may be. And so when they go off to
college, they literally don't know the basics of how to
operate as an adult because theynever had to do that growing up.
And so, like, these are the people who go to college and
don't know how to do laundry, don't know how to operate a
microwave, don't know how to do like these kinds of like basic
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things. These are Raja betas.
Daniel is A Raja beta. Absolutely.
And they grow up like worshipping their mom because
their mom puts them on a pedestal.
So they're like, oh, I can. I would never say anything bad
about my mom. Like, I can't fight against my
mom. And then it causes problems for
them later in life because now they're mama's boys.
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It's like the Indian Indian termfor mama's boy, basically.
Yeah. But there's so much.
Yeah, it's definitely worse because there's so much
historical misogyny in Indian culture that feeds into it to
make these Raja betas feel like they're so special.
And then the women they date, like, they're like, well, my mom
thinks I'm special. Like you should think this too.
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Yeah, they expect that kind of treatment from their partners,
from their girlfriends and wives.
So like, if you can imagine, if you're like dating this person
and they're like, oh, like, why didn't you do my laundry for me?
You're like, the fuck? Like, what did you say to me?
Excuse me? Yeah.
Yes. So it's like that kind of
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entitled person. Yes, Daniel was absolutely Raja
beta. Yeah, yeah.
And especially, like, while he'slike talking to Cherry, he's
defending his mom. And then when he's talking to
his mom, he's like, trying to defend Cherry.
And so as a result, none of themare happy.
With him, yeah. And but he it's always like 1/2
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assed defense. I don't know.
He just, he never forced a conversation between the two of
them. You know, he wasn't doing actual
problem solving. He was just avoiding or
dismissing. Yeah.
Yes, dismissing. He was absolutely dismissing.
He wasn't actually acknowledgingwhat each of the other women
were was like going through and being like, Oh yeah, actually
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you're totally right. It was pretty fucked up what she
did. Like, he never really said that
even when his mom freaking lied about his death to Cherry, he
never even told his friends about it, never even fessed up.
And does like, actually, yeah, my mom like really messed up.
No accountability or anything, just oh, it's like all in the
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past. Come on, Daniel.
Daniel, get out from under her thumb.
I guess you did RIP. Yeah, I was a little surprised
by the ending, though I gotta say I I expected that one of the
two women would die. Yeah, but I didn't know which
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one and how. So I'm a fun fact.
Apparently in the book, it endeda little differently.
When she was writing, she knew one of them wasn't going to make
it out alive, but she didn't know who, and she said it could
have been any of the three. In the book, Laura emerges
victorious. Cherry charges at her, and Laura
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steps out of the way, but also subtly pushes her out the
window. Yeah, so Cherry dies.
In the book, it also seems like Cherry was a little more somehow
a little more crazy, because apparently you know how she,
like, threw the cat out the window.
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Yeah. But then the cat lived.
So go cat. But apparently she like
gruesomely kills a puppy. In the books or in the book?
Oh my God, that's crazy. That is like #1 psychopath slash
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serial killer indication is if you are mean to animals as a
child. That generally means that when
you grow up, you are like more likely to kill.
Humans. Damn.
Makes sense, honestly. Also I was looking up cat like
the reflex. Oh yeah.
OK, so apparently this isn't a trivia the other day, but
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apparently the reflex which allows a cat to land on its paws
is called the writing reflex. Right, like RIDING.
Or WRIRIGHTING. Right they oh.
Yeah, they land on their paws and they're like, oh, I'm
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upright. So yeah, I righted my fact
wrong. Now I righted my left.
Oh, no cats. Sorry, I just looked and those
are the fun facts that you get here on Binge App Repeat.
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Just another example. Oh my gosh, what other
differences in the series versusbook?
Let me see. I do like how they made the
insanity levels of both Laura and Cherry like basically 5050.
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I thought that was funny. That was good.
Me too, I liked that I couldn't decide whose side I was on for a
lot of the show. Yeah, they were both unreliable
narrators. Yeah.
Actually, I did expect to see maybe at the end that it would
be Daniel's perspective on all of these things.
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And it's like, oh, this is what actually happened.
And this is like, these key scenes actually went down like
this. And it wasn't the case that,
like, Cherry was wrong or Laura was wrong.
But the truth is somewhere in the middle kind of thing.
Yeah, I wanted 1/3 perspective too, because especially the
scene where they're talking about their the plans for
Daniel's birthday. And from Cherry's perspective,
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it was like he and his mom were on the bed weirdly like talking
about the birthday plans. And then from Laura's
perspective, it was like Cherry and him were making out while
she was looking at Laura. And I was like, these are wildly
different. Are we going to know what the
truth is for this? One, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, that was really interesting.
That was the one that was very different in terms of
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positioning wise. Yeah.
Yeah. But then I realized that a lot
of the other scenes that happened, it was just the two of
them in the room. So the other example that was
really different was when Laura goes over to Cherry's flat with
the intent of telling Cherry that Daniel is actually alive,
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but then Laura goes over to the flat and she sees Daniel's
boxers and then she's the. Credit card.
The credit card, the laptop, Cherry's Instagram logged in on
the laptop, new shopping bags, everything.
And then she's like, you know what?
We already have the funeral and you weren't invited by.
And then she leaves. Versus in Cherry's perspective
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or no, yeah, sorry, that was Cherry's perspective.
And then versus Laura's perspective, Cherry was like,
get the fuck out. Like you need to leave now.
And then that's when Laura was like, Oh my God, I'm so sorry.
And then leaves. But it's like very different
circumstances. Totally.
Yeah, who knows? Who knows what the truth was?
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I think, OK, if you were to guess for both of those scenes,
so for the birthday plan scene and for the confrontation in
dead Daniel's flat, if you were to guess which one was the
truth, what would you say? I honestly feel myself siding
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with Cherry's perspective as more the truth than the other
way around. Because I think if you think
about like Laura's perspective, Laura knows that she did
something wrong when she told Cherry about Daniel's death.
And so that's why she's going over to the flat.
But then she's trying to make itseem like Cherry has these over
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the top reactions to her. And, like, that's why she is
like, you know, hiding herself or, like, you know, I don't
know, You know what I mean? Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, why? She's, like, trying to make
herself smaller and be like, oh,actually, like, Cherry yelled at
me. And like, I'm actually not in
the wrong. But then when you look at
Laura's position as a rich womanin power, you're like, there's
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no way that this woman would cowherself to anyone.
So, like, what is this weird perspective?
So that's why I find myself siding with Cherry.
But I don't find myself agreeingwith Cherry's actions.
Yeah, I I think I'm with you. I think like Cherry's truth
seemed more believable just because with Laura, it's like,
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why are you? I don't know.
Yeah, I agree. Like Cherry, just Laura had more
of an incentive to lie about these things.
I think because Cherry didn't goin hoping she would hate her
mother-in-law, but like, Laura probably went in hoping that
this one would not be the one for Daniel.
So, yeah, I think that's why. That's why I feel that way.
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OK, I did find an article about all of the differences.
Yeah, give me the highlights. OK, difference #1 the opening in
the book is Laura telling Cherrythat Daniel died, and then the
opening scene in the show was Laura threatening Cherry with a
knife, which is the final scene.Oh yeah, that's different.
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Oh yeah, we should talk about that too.
Like so we were having brunch with our friend Isatu and Isatu,
I had a major complaint, which is Laura, what was your plan?
What was the plan? The long term plan?
For the lie, like how did you think Cherry wouldn't find this
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out? He would eventually get his
social media back. He would eventually find a way
to contact Cherry. Like what?
But I think the point was that he was trying to contact Cherry,
but then he didn't know that Cherry had blocked him.
But if I were Cherry, I would probably go on Daniel's
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Instagram and then be like, oh why is this person blocked?
Unblock Message His story is active.
Yeah, so true. Like you would definitely go
through those things and yeah, yeah, definitely.
What was your plan, Laura? What was your plan?
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Yeah, our friend Isa, too was also like, I have less sympathy
for her, Laura, because she was dumb, which I'm going to wither
to. Yeah.
Yeah, so true. I will say, though, that I
absolutely loved that episode where it's Cherry's perspective.
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We know that Daniel is alive andwell, and now it's Cherry just
like living her life. And we start to see the rising
action of like, what's going to happen?
Tension is rising. It's she's going to find out
that Daniel is actually alive. I wonder how it's going to go
down. I absolutely love that episode.
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It was so good. And then, yeah, I forgot about
that connection with that real estate agent guy or the real
estate investor or whatever, that rich guy.
Yeah, that she finally reached. Out to and I'm so glad he it
came up. Yeah, like since Daniel died and
he's like, what are you talking about?
Daniel's literally upstairs. So good.
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Loved it. OK, OK, apparently in the book
they're in their mid twenties, 24 and 25, Daniel and Cherry
respectively. So they're not as far into their
careers. So the fact that Laura gets
Cherry fired is less of a big deal in the books.
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OK, that's that's a weak 1. Cherry is more sympathetic in
the TV show. Throughout both the show and the
book, Laura believes that Cherryis a social climber who's out to
get Daniels money the source material.
So the book keeps the truth of this morally ambiguous, making
her less sympathetic at times. I mean, I would say, I would say
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that Cherry was a little bit of a social climber.
Yeah, like for sure, yeah. Even her mom said that like
you're not in love, you're ambitious, which I believe she
was both, but I think she convinced herself she was in
love because she wanted to be married to him.
Yeah, I think so. Like I think Cherry tried harder
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with Daniel because of Daniel's position in life.
Yes, I agree. I agree.
OK, this is a big difference. So in the book, Howard, who's
Laura's husband, is a cheating husband and an absentee father.
That changes things a lot, I think.
I think that makes Laura way more sympathetic in the book.
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I was wondering about that because also with Raja Beta's, I
think the other thing that kind of leads to a Raja Beta
situation is generally an Indianculture in our parents age,
which are like now people who are like in their 70s and 80s,
they generally had arranged marriages and sometimes it
didn't really go well. So a lot of the times when when
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women like had their sons, that was like their ban in their
life, who was there for them andloved them for them.
So it kind of like those two things actually go quite hand in
hand. So it actually I was wondering
about that in the show. I was like, oh, I think it makes
sense for Laura to be so attached to Daniel because maybe
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her husband is like cheating on her with that other person.
But then it came out that she wanted to open the marriage.
So like, nothing really makes sense.
Anymore, Yeah, I I totally agreewith you.
I think it would have been a story, stronger story to do what
the book said, which is that it was an absentee father.
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That's why she felt so protective over Daniel because
she was Daniel's main caretaker his whole life.
And she had, she lost another child.
And so she, like, did everythingto protect him.
And that manifested in, like, creepy relationship.
Yeah. I think that makes way more
sense than like, oh, yeah, we had a great, stable family.
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I chose to open this relationship but I still have a
weird creepy relationship with my son.
Yeah. And then I also thought there is
a scene in this show where I thought they would lean into
that more. So when Daniel is basically
sexting Cherry and his mom is getting the texts.
And then Laura and the dad, I forget his name, they're like,
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you know, starting to do their little song and dance before
they have sex. And then she like, sees the text
and she's like, oh God, I don't want to do this.
I thought she would have the opposite reaction and like, want
to have sex with a dad because she's like turned on by these
sex by her son. I know.
I thought they were going to lean into that.
But not that I wanted to see that, but I kind of wish that's
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what they showed because it alsowould have made the story
stronger. I feel like they're always
teetering on the edge of an inappropriate relationship, but
they always kept us guessing about like whether there was
anything that was over the line.Yeah.
And they didn't have to. Yeah, they definitely.
Like, they really did toy with it because even the dad had a
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comment about it being like, oh,there are times when I feel like
your relationship is kind of weird.
And then they had some scenes where she kisses him on the lips
in Spain when they're dancing. And then also she gets like
really anxious about the cut that he gets on his knee.
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So I was like, OK, maybe they'replaying at it, but then they
never actually did it. And I was like, I love that you
didn't, but also thank. God, we didn't watch it, but
also I wish, I wish it was there.
Yeah, it was a very weird. Feeling.
I was like wait do I want this or do I not want this?
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OK, another difference. In the book, Daniel's accident
is from rafting, not climbing. Interesting.
In the book, they both go on a whitewater rafting trip where
nobody is to blame for the accident.
Meanwhile, the show makes it pretty clear that Daniel is at
fault for his own accident. OK, this is actually a good
segue into the actual climbing. So yappers.
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Ruchi is a very seasoned climber, actually a climbing
influencer. Former and nano.
Micro. Nano.
Miller Influencer. Pico.
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Anyway, so I asked her to talk alittle bit about the legitimacy
of the climbing that they showed.
Yeah, you do. What were your thoughts?
So I actually did think it was pretty accurate, but I think no
actual climber would do this. So I feel like Daniel, if he, if
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Daniel is a good climber, which I maybe he was, he would not go
on this like somewhat advanced climbing trip with someone else
who's a complete beginner. And he also wouldn't make the
moves that he made with a complete beginner belaying him.
So the type of climbing that they were doing is lead
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climbing. So when you go outside and when
you climb outside and there's like one person who is the more
advanced climber, who is the lead climber.
So what they do is like they have the rope with them and they
are like climbing up, like very similar to what Daniel does,
right? So he's like climbing up and
he's like putting the rope into those hooks in the wall.
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And then when when he gets to the top, he acts as a belay for
the person who's down on the ground.
So the person who's down on the ground has like is like hooked
from the top instead of the person at the top who's
basically hook is wherever they put the rope last.
So in lead climbing, it's definitely dangerous.
So it's really, really importantthat the lead climber, the, the
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more advanced climber, like putslike hooks in to every single
thing. They do not skip.
Do not skip. Did he skip 1?
He skipped several. Oh, he skipped several in a row.
And that's why Cherry was like, Are you sure you should be like
skipping so many? Like, shouldn't you like hook
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into this? And that's why when he goes for
that really advanced like like jump and he misses and he falls,
it's because he wasn't clipped into the right thing.
So he falls a lot farther than he had to.
Bro you're skipping clips and jumping, what are you doing?
No, no, no. Cannot do that.
Cannot do that. Be safe out there, climbers.
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Be safe. Even if you think you're a
really, really advanced climber.Do not free solo and do not skip
the things that you hook into. Yeah, I forget the technical
term for that, but yes. So I think from that angle, I
was like, this guy's a total Raja Beta because he's so
arrogant about his climbing ability, but a real advanced
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climber is a safe climber. Heard it here first, Yoppers.
Safety is key. So that's why in the show, it
was more Daniel's fault than a mere accident, because he took
risks he shouldn't have taken. Exactly.
Yeah. And he was like trying to show
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off for a cherry, I guess. But still, like if you're an
advanced climber and like this is some person's the first time
climbing outside and they are the ones responsible for holding
you up. No, do not be dinoing please.
Dino is dynamic movement. Yeah, yeah.
It's like when you like jump forsomething.
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OK, cool. You know what?
After Daniel got hurt and then Cherry was grieving and she told
Laura that he proposed to her, at that moment I questioned
whether he actually proposed to her or not.
I did. You also.
Yeah, I. Was like.
Did now, I don't know. So I don't know if that was
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maybe he actually did, or maybe that was Cherry's ambition
coming to light, being like actually before you got your
head injury, you actually proposed to me and he was like,
what? Have you seen the movie
Shattered? No.
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My gosh, it's so good. It's a pretty old movie, but
basically the premise is that this man wakes up from a coma
and wait. Let me look up the premise so
that I don't accidentally give away.
Spoilers for the girlfriend onlyand not for chatter.
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OK so this movie is from 1991 and the premise is that Tom
Behringer is the main character and he is an architect who has a
car accident and develops amnesia.
So it starts with him waking up from the hospital and he doesn't
remember anything, and then his wife tries to help him piece
together his past, but then at some point he starts remembering
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and I won't give anything else away.
She's not my wife. I'm not saying nothing.
Oh my God. Go watch it, Yappers.
Go watch it. It's so good.
I actually watched Bollywood remade this movie and I watched
that first and it was so good. The Bollywood version, it's
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called Yak Keen and Priyanka Chopra is in it.
Yeah, I think it's like from 2005 or something.
OK. Yeah.
Interesting. So maybe watch Yak Keen?
Interesting. Yeah, I really love the idea of
unreliable narrators. It really makes you question
your. Sanity totally, just like in the
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summer, I turn pretty where we can't trust Belly's perspective
we really well, a little bit. I think they, Ayana and I talked
about how everything that Taylorknows about Conrad is through
belly, and that's why Taylor hates Conrad versus like, you
know, if she just met Conrad, she'd be like, oh, he's nice or
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something. I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think yeah, actually this is
some advice that my mom gave me like many years ago.
She was like when you are datingsomeone for the first time you
shouldn't like talk about just your problems to your friends
because then your friends will have a very 1 sided view of your
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partner and then they will most likely not like that person.
Dude, I needed that advice. Yeah, I think at the time I
wasn't dating anyone serious, soI didn't really think about it
too much. But I totally understand.
I think. Yeah, from from your story.
And then also just like trying to be more cognizant of that now
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with my own relationship like. Yeah.
Yeah, which is hard because likewhen you're going through like a
tiff or like some argument with your partner, you one want to be
validated that you're right and so and you want to talk about
it. Especially for me, I'm like, I
always like process things by talking about it.
So I always want to talk about it with my friends.
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But. But now I'm like, no, that's
not. I mean, in some cases it's fine,
but it's as long as it's not like a pattern.
And also, yeah. Totally.
And I, I think there is also a big difference between asking
your friends for advice on how to deal with the situation,
which is like, you know, coming from a place of empathy for both
you and your partner's perspective on like, how do we
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move through this together versus just like using your
friends to rant about your partner.
Yes. Yeah.
And I do think, you know, now that we're much older, I think
everybody understands nuance andlike, even if we're only hearing
one part of a relationship, we're not making drastic
conclusions about. The relationship, yeah, exactly,
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which I think was definitely us in our early 20s.
Yeah, for drastic conclusions left and right.
Everything was black and white when you're in your 20s.
Break up with him, You. Didn't pull your seat out when
you went to dinner. Break up with him.
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OK. Is there anything else we want
to talk about? Any key characters?
Mom's friend Brigitte. I liked her friend and Brigitte
It was. It was crazy that that Brigitte
totally took Cherry's side afterthe fall out.
Yeah, I was. Yeah, I was curious about that
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too. But yeah, I wonder if Brigitte
kind of felt the same way with Laura when she and Daniel were
kind of dating, and maybe that'swhy.
Maybe. Maybe.
Oh, OK. You know what?
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I do really like that Daniel wasthe one that ended up killing
Laura because I think it was like a she created her own
monsters kind of thing, you know?
I think it was very poetic, the way it ended.
Yeah, I think it was either going to be Cherry maybe killing
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Laura but then pinning it on Daniel, Daniel killing Laura and
Cherry Nose, or Laura killing Cherry.
Yeah. Do you think there was a
situation in which Cherry would kill Daniel?
No. Yeah.
Yeah, because then I feel like it's like if Cherry killed
Daniel and Laura was there to see it, Like Laura would not let
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Cherry live. So true there was.
OK when Laura started mixing thepills into the drink.
I was like, is she killing her son?
I thought maybe they were tryingto show like if I can't have
him, no one can or something. But then I was like, oh, she
just wants to stop him from leaving so she can make her
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point. Yeah, I was really confused
about that. I was like, is she killing
herself like I was? Yeah, I was like which?
Glass is what's happening. What's she doing?
Is she trying to garner sympathyby fainting or something?
Yeah, that also went in my mind.And then she I was like, OK, she
took it with her left hand. She took the left hand.
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OK, she's giving the drugged oneto Daniel.
I have don't track her hand me. Too.
I was like OK drugged 1 is in the left hand.
OK. She gave the left hand drink to
Daniel. Yeah, that's exactly what I did
too. I was like, OK, so now Daniel
has it's like that street game where you like put the the ball
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under the cup and then you like mix the cups around.
I was like, OK, tracking it. It's in that cup.
I've lost sight. I've lost sight.
Oh, in the book Daniel does not propose to Cherry before the
accident, so maybe it was her made-up story.
Maybe, maybe, maybe. Oh, Cherry learns that Daniel's
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alive in a different way. So in both the show and the
book, Laura lies to Cherry aboutDaniel's death, going to great
lengths to keep them apart. Eventually, Cherry discovers the
truth. The manner of learning about
Daniel's recovery happens more dramatically in the show.
In the book, she calls the hospital and pretends to be
hysterical so she can find out how he died and where they took
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his body. It's her only option since Laura
shuts her out. However, in the series, of
course, Cherry learns in the elevator.
Or yeah, what from that rich guy?
And then she finds him in the elevator.
So. OK, yeah, that's way more
dramatic than what happens in the book.
I guess she just, like, calls. And then they're like, oh, he's
not dead. And she's like, huh.
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Yeah. I do like the way the show did
it more. I think there was a lot more
tension in the show, which I appreciated.
I 100% agree. OK and then the last one is that
Cherry dies in the book, not Laura.
OK cool. That's all of them.
Great. I think the other thing that I
was confused about is if this doyou think that there is a chance
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that this could happen in today's day and age?
I'm thinking, what do you mean? I'm thinking the answer is no,
because I took an audit of all of the ways that Andrew and I
are connected virtually and it'slike 10 plus platforms.
There's WhatsApp, Instagram, Signal, Discord, Messenger,
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Facebook. Pokémon Go and like multiple.
Instagrams. Yeah, multiple Instagrams, dude,
What else? There's just like so many other
ways that we're connected. Like we have Netflix accounts
connected to each other. Same with like all these
different TV platforms. We once took a an inventory of
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all the different ways that we could message each other and it
was like literally 10 like text.So many, that is true.
It's much harder to completely cut someone off.
Everyone's so connected online these days.
LinkedIn Like yeah, LinkedIn, LinkedIn at some point.
That's true. We didn't, we didn't add
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LinkedIn. That was part of it.
Yeah. So yeah, anyone on LinkedIn, it
was like if if Andrew's mother for some God forsaken reason,
like hated me and like wanted meto block me out of Andrew's
life, like she would have to go through so many different
platforms and let's be. Real like people that age don't
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know what Discord is, you know? Like there's just no way they
can keep up with all of the channels that were connected.
Yeah, Oh, Spotify released a messaging platform, so now we're
connected. On.
Spotify messages Oh. My God. e-mail.
Did you say e-mail? Oh, e-mail, Yeah.
G Chat YouTube. Yeah, there's just so many, so I
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think it's unrealistic. Yeah, I was like, that's cute.
You just blocked each other on Instagram.
Did you try TikTok? What about your work phone
numbers? Like, there's so much, yeah.
So much the online footprint is huge.
Yeah, Also like she. Yeah.
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And and they had, they knew so many mutual people, it would
have been so easy to go to Brigitte and be like, how are
you grieving with Daniel's death?
And then and that. Yeah, easy.
Like, oh, Brigitte, where is thefuneral?
Laura won't tell me. Yeah.
What funeral done? Yep.
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There you go. Ready credits.
Oh my gosh. So anyway, great.
I would rate this. Probably a four out of five on
quality. Would I give it a 5 out of five
on enjoyment? Maybe 4 out of five on
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enjoyment? Like it was very enjoyable, but
I don't think I can give it a 5 out of five.
I'm reserving the five out of fives now.
Yeah, I I feel the same. I feel 4 out of five quality,
four out of five enjoyment. I was 5 out of 5 right until the
last episode and then the endingI was like.
Yeah, in retrospect, yeah. Yeah, but I don't know what a
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better ending would have been. Maybe just like, I don't know,
maybe more of a reveal of what Cherry actually did to.
His Yeah, I think if if Laura had recorded Cherry being crazy
to Laura and then he heard that,that would have been more
powerful. Yeah.
Just like a third hand account. I think that, yeah.
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Yeah. Better.
That would have been better. So yeah, I feel the same way 8
out of 10. Solid.
Solid great binge in progress. Binge in progress.
I am watching the Great British Bake Off.
I guess that's not really a binge because it's one episode a
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week. Yes.
Me too but oh actually I am re binging the Shibira Sandro.
Who else is in that season? The it's it's collection 10 from
three years ago. I'm.
I do remember Sandro. He was like the kind of buff
looking guy. OK, he was good.
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He was a good Baker. Yeah, he was good.
He was great. Yeah.
He made the that like round earth moose cake thing if you
remember. That, yeah, I remember his his
design and his architecture was really, really good, yeah.
Yeah. Nice.
Yeah, Yeah. And I'm watching the new season.
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Who's your favorite in the new season?
I was going to ask you. Oh, I don't know.
OK, so I let me see. I don't know.
Should we talk about spoilers? I mean it's only been 3 episodes
so. Oh yeah, I don't think it's
really spoilers. OK, well, I was really sad when
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Poeman left, but also I kind of saw it coming, yeah.
She really struggled through twoweeks in a row.
Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Jasmine and Tom.
Those are my 2 favorites. Yeah, I think those are my 2
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favorites too. I think those are my favorites
to win. But my like personal fan
favorite. I love Nadia.
She's the Italian greatest one, Yeah.
And she's just, like, so humble and always thinks everything she
makes is terrible. But then it's like, usually
good. I don't know.
She's just so sweet. Yeah, she's sweet.
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And I think, is it Natalie or Natalia?
That you could Natalia. Natalia.
Natalia is also very sweet. I think she's really funny.
Yeah. Wait, who is this other guy?
Wait. I'm thinking there's like Tom
and then there's like another guy with the mustache.
(50:35):
The short guy with the mullet and the mustache.
No, not yet, Toby. Toby.
Yeah, I also really like Toby. Yeah.
I feel like. Toby, he's so cute, Yeah.
And then he's like, I remember thinking I was like watching it
with Andrew. And I like, look at Toby, like
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making his like little bake. And I'm like, why am I attracted
to Toby right now? And then I look at Andrew was
another white man with a mustache.
And I'm like, oh, that's why. Makes sense, makes sense.
Makes. Sense.
A lot of Andrew and Toby. Gotta type girls, gotta type
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the. Girls gotta type.
I also OK the biscuit week wherethey made those cross section
biscuits. Oh yeah, we're so.
Cool, I love them and I love theKnoll cookie.
Oh yeah, the winking 1. OK.
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I was like, he pulled it up whenthey stole space and he was
like. That's great.
I've been watching a lot of reels about Allison Hammond.
It was like Allison Hammond's top 10 funniest moments.
Oh, I am obsessed with Allison. She's so funny, so funny.
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She apparently has an interview with Harrison Ford that has
like, that's going viral now because Oh my God, she is
cracking Harrison Ford up so much.
And he's such a stoic man normally and also hates
interviews. And he is just like losing it
throughout this entire interviewwith Allison Hammond and it's
really cute. Oh my God, wait.
(52:24):
Send it to me, I want to see it.I will.
I will. I hope she never leaves.
OK. Sorry.
Oh, that's all. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Love Allison.
I've been watching Loot season 1on Apple TV.
Such a good show. Season 3 comes out October 15th.
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Kind of soon, kind of soon, but you can do it.
OK, I wondered if that was the real date or if I was getting
confused if nobody. Wants this, I think.
No, no, I think October 15th is right because nobody wants this
as the 23rd. OK, Season 2 on October 23rd,
nobody wants this loot. Season 3 October 15th is OK,
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That's correct. Great.
Yes, yes. Did it Nice.
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