September 4, 2025 • 59 mins
This week on Binge Yap Repeat, we’re trading reality dating drama for cozy crime capers as we dive into The Thursday Murder Club. Based on Richard Osman’s bestselling series, this witty whodunit brings together four unlikely sleuths in a sleepy retirement village who just can’t resist a good mystery.
We’ll break down the show’s sharp humor, lovable oddballs, and twisty plotting — plus LOTS of differences between the book and the movie. Do the murders keep us hooked? Do the jokes land? And most importantly: which member of the Thursday Murder Club belongs in each Hogwarts house?
Grab your tea, polish your magnifying glass, and join us as we yap our way through crime-solving retirees, British charm, and the art of a binge-worthy mystery.
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Hey yappers, welcome back to Binge Yapper Pete.
Today we're yapping about the Thursday Murder Club, Netflixs
new lighthearted geriatric murder mystery film.
We dive into a bunch of the differences between the book and
the movie, discuss the absolutely stacked cast of
stars, and talk about some interesting flower symbolism and
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what a gift of flowers may say about the person who gave it to
you. Let's get started.
Hello fellow yappers, I'm Ruchi.And I'm Shalini and we're your
hosts. A binge, yap, repeat.
We're two best friends who spendan embarrassing amount of time
binge watching TV, and honestly,we just need to talk about it.
If here, we're guessing you do too.
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Fair warning. This is a spoiler friendly zone.
We will be discussing lots of spoilers, so if you haven't
watched the show yet, hit pause,go binge, and come back when
you're ready to yap with us. And now it's yap time.
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Ashley hi Ruchi, welcome to another episode of Benji App
Repeat. Thanks.
It's Thursday and you know what that means.
Another murder club meeting. It's funny because we we covered
Wednesday, which came out on Wednesday and now we're covering
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Thursday Murder Club which came out on Thursday.
And then you're going to see Freakier Friday.
On Sunday on. Sunday.
What a shame, What a. Shame, I know.
Oh, I guess this is related, butso I think this is the last
episode that we're going to release on a Thursday.
We're shifting. Yeah, OK.
Yeah. So this is the last episode that
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we're going to release on a Thursday.
And it's very appropriate that Thursday Murder Club is the last
episode that we do this because we we are shifting our release
schedule to actually release on Mondays after this episode comes
out. So from now on.
Mostly because we can't edit this podcast in the middle of
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the week anymore like we have. Yeah, both.
Both Shalini and I are starting new jobs, which I think will
take a lot of our attention. But the good news is your
episodes come three days early, so.
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I just realized I haven't told any of
my Co workers that I'm starting a new job because I'm waiting
for my manager to come back fromvacation.
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But I don't think any of my Co workers listen anyway.
Just. Go find out.
OK, actually if they listen to this podcast and find out this
way, they deserve to know early.I'm like, waiting for the day.
I don't think this will happen anytime soon, if at all.
But I'm waiting for the day thatsomeone, like, recognizes me out
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in the wild. And it's like, are you the host
of Benji Upper P? And I'll be like you.
Listen. I think it'll be more exciting
as a podcast host for people to do that.
But when people did it at the climbing gym, it was exciting.
But also like when I go to the climbing gym, I'm not, I'm not
on, you know? And so I feel like when I like
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post, when I posted reels, it was like, oh, ha, ha.
And like when I chose to engage,I was on, but I was when I was
at the gym. I'm like getting frustrated at a
climb and I just wanted to save space to do that and like work
out and stuff, you know? I do feel like we're very much
ourselves on this podcast, so it's not like we have to put on
a front for the podcast. I agree.
Yeah, If you're in the Bay Area and you see either of us, come
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say hi. There's also a good chance that
many of our viewers don't actually know what we look like
because they don't watch the video.
Faces made for podcasts. Anyway, today we are here to
talk about Thursday Murder Club,which is a Netflix movie that
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premiered on Thursday, August 28th.
The Thursday murder club is based on the novel of the same
name by Richard Osmond and it's about a group of retirees or
British pensioners who spent every Thursday solving cold case
murders for fun. However, their casual sleuthing
takes a turn when they find themselves in the middle of a
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real whodunit on their hands. The film stars Helen Mirren,
Pierce Brosnan, Celia Emery and Ben Kingsley as the the Thursday
Murder Club members. And yeah, some some heavy
hitters, honestly. Stacked cast.
So stacked. Yeah.
What did you think? I thought it was absolutely
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delightful. I thought it was so adorable.
I love murder mysteries and the cast was amazing.
The acting was obviously so good.
And yeah, it was just really cute.
I think I I've been watching so much television recently that I
haven't watched a movie or like a made for TV movie in a long
time. But I really liked it and I
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thought the pacing was great andit was so adorable.
Yeah, I agree. I even wrote down, I think it
was like the first 3 to 5 seconds of the movie starting, I
was like, I'm locked in. Like I already know I'm going to
love this movie. Just like something about the
saturated colours and the beautiful sets and the gardens
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and the British and the UKI was like, I'm in, this is.
Great. Oh, and David Tennant we forgot
to mention. Oh yes, David.
David, When I saw David Tennant,I was like, I'm so in.
I I experienced a little bit of face blindness when I saw him.
At first I was like, is that theguy in Department Q?
And I was like, Oh no, no, no, it's not.
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That Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes.
Yeah. Then I was like, is that Doctor
Who? It is.
He is Doctor Who, right? David Tennant.
I actually don't know, I know him as well.
Fuck JK Rowling, Barty Crouch Junior and as the guy in
Broadchurch. Yes, I recognize him in
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Broadchurch. Yes, he is Doctor Who.
OK, I've never. Watched Doctor Who, but yeah.
I haven't either, but I rememberseeing like pictures of him,
like dressed up as Doctor Who and I was like, OK, yeah.
Lot of lot of heavy hitters. Yeah, and the High Septon,
what's his real name? Oh, sorry.
High Sparrow. Jonathan Pryce.
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He was Helen Mirren's husband inthis movie.
Oh yes, and also the guy who plays Bobby Tanner.
I recognize him too. Oh.
His name is apparently Richard Grant.
Oh, he's in Saltburn, apparently.
Oh yeah, he's the dad in Saltburn.
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Yeah, I think he's just one of those guys who's in randomly
everything, and I'm like, oh, him.
Yeah, don't actually know his name.
OK, now I know Richard E Grant and the guy who plays the Butler
in The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. That's how I know him.
Yeah, he was the minister guy. Yeah, if he plays Father Mackie,
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his name is Joseph Marcel. OK, OK, cool.
Yeah, OK, I have a fun fact about him too.
His character when we when it comes to the differences between
the book and the movie, if you want to get into that.
Yeah, let's just, I've read it. Oh, OK, OK.
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So there's actually quite a lot of differences between the book
and the movie. So I think the the director, I
think his name is Chris Columbus.
Well, he read the book and was so in love with the characters
and everything that he was like,I need to make a movie out of
this. So I think he he said something
like, I think the quote was something like if I were to
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remain extremely true to the book, the movie would have been
7 hours long or something. Whoa.
Yeah, and so I found this Entertainment Weekly article
that basically talks about the differences between the book and
the movie. There's definitely a lot.
So I guess the biggest difference is that there are
there is like one major missing character.
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So in the novel, they have this character who is called Turkish,
Turkish Gianni, and he's apparently a major red herring.
He is the other business partnerof Tony Curran, Jason Ritchie
and Bobby Tanner. And Jason and Bobby both think
that this guy, Turkish Gianni, has like, found a way to like,
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come back from Cyprus and is actually the one who killed
Tony. And they have like a whole thing
where they actually go to Cyprusand they interview his mom and
his mom's like, I've never. It's like, yeah, I haven't seen
Turkish Gianni in quite a long time, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, So I think he's supposedto be like the biggest suspect
in the book, and then he just doesn't even exist in the movie.
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So I think what has happened is that Bobby Tanner takes a little
bit of that heat about like he'sthe aggressive third individual
who everyone is kind of scared of.
And then there's also Bogdan, who is trying to get his
passport back. There's a little bit of a flavor
in Turkishiani with Bogdan and then I think.
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Was Bogdan in the books? Bogden was in the book and okay,
this is another big difference of Bogden is that in the movie,
Bogden is basically like, yeah, I killed Tony, but it was a
mistake, it was an accident. And then it turns out in the
book, he actually intentionally kills Tony because Tony kills
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his best friend. Tony uses Turkish Gianni to kill
Bogdan's best friend and then Bogdan is like waiting for
revenge and then like finds his revenge and kills Tony because
of the murder. Yeah.
So the fact that the sky TurkishGianni is completely removed
means like that There is some other storylines that need to be
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a little bit fin angled. Interesting.
That's, that's funny cuz I do, Idid notice like a dearth of red
herrings in this movie. I think that just I, you know,
in movies like this or in shows like this, you always expect
every single scene. It's like, oh, what if it's that
person? What if it's that person?
And I was like, we didn't reallyhave any of those except for, I
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guess Ron's son, Jason Ritchie, and that's it.
Yeah, I mean, there was kind of a little bit of Father Mackie,
too. People were like, Oh yeah,
Father Mackie has like, been acting strange lately.
Like what's going on with him? There are a couple lines like
that. That's true, but they didn't
like actually heavily investigate him or anything.
Yeah, exactly. There were just like a couple
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lines here and there. There were also some characters
like Bernard, who I think was mentioned maybe only once or
twice. So in the very beginning of the
movie, when Joyce comes into thepicture, Joyce and Bernard are
actually sitting next to each other and talking.
He's playing the Sudoku. Yes, the Sudoku.
Yeah. I was like, why did he say it
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like that? Yes.
So that was Bernard. And so actually in the books,
Bernard. Yes.
So actually in the books, Joyce and Bernard are supposed to be
kind of a couple. They're like supposed to be like
this new couple that has met at Cooper's chase.
And Joyce is kind of into him. But Bernard has a tragic story.
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OK, let me read this out to you.Oh my.
God. OK, so in the book, Bernard is
another red herring. Joyce has a rather obvious
question. Bernard regularly bring some
special cakes. Bernard has a habit of sitting
on a bench outside the cemetery that Ian Bentham, played by
Devin David Tennant, plans to demolish.
Thus, the Thursday Murder Club 6suspects him of having a motive
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for killing Bentham. So it turns out that Bernard sat
there because he secretly buriedhis wife in the cemetery with
the plans to relocate her ashes at a future date.
And I article doesn't go into why this is the case, but
apparently the bench with its cement base was built over the
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burial place, making it impossible for him to move her.
However, Bernard told his daughter that the ashes that she
brought to India were really hermother's.
So guilty over the possibility that the his daughter will
discover his lie, Bernard kills himself so that he can finally
be reunited with his wife. My.
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God, I know I was like the. Fuck.
Like up until that sentence I was like, oh, I guess that's
interesting. OK, what?
Oh my God. OK, I can see why that would
have added so much time to the movie.
So much. Complexity, yeah.
But the the Easter egg is that even though that story is not
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fleshed out at all and is basically completely removed,
Joyce or the character who playsJoyce still kind of plays into
that idea that she has a crush on Bernard, that her character
has a crush on Bernard, which iswhy she's sitting next to
Bernard and why he he's like kind of there still.
Cute like. The actress said that she played
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her scenes as if Joyce has a crush on Bernard.
Yeah, yeah. Even though it's not in the
movie. Yeah.
Cute. Yeah.
Cute. OK, I have two things to say.
One, I have a fun fact about Chris Columbus.
My fun fact is that he directed the first two Harry Potter
movies. Fuck JK Rowling.
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Chris Columbus yes, fuck JK Rowling.
But yeah, same Chris Columbus. And then after I saw that he
directed the movie, I realized, like the last shot of the movie
was so Harry Potter like where they're like dancing in their
room and then it zooms out of the window and then like shows
the whole thing. It's I feel like that's how so
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many Harry Potter scenes were. You're right.
Even even in the beginning of the movie where they're kind of
like panning over a Cooper's chase, I was like, oh, it's like
Harry Potter but for pensioners.Yeah.
OK. And the second, the thing that I
had to say was that this is a Gilmore Girls Easter egg.
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So if you don't care about this,you can Fast forward for the
next minute. But what you're saying about the
actress that played Joyce playing her character like she
had a crush on Bernard, remindedme that the actress that plays
Gypsy in Gilmore Girls, Rose Abdu.
She was a guest on Gilmore Guys the podcast, and she said that
she played all of her scenes as if she had a huge crush on
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Lorelei. Whatever.
It is never a plot in Gilmore Girls in the slightest.
She just like pretended like shehad a crush.
It was like her own little bit through the whole.
Why like did did you ever pick up on that?
After I learned that when I wentback and rewatched, there are a
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few scenes where you can kind oftell.
Like she she comes over for a super last minute party for
Lorelei's mom because she's throwing her mom like a very
last minute Bachelorette and Gypsy shows up and she's like,
I'm always down for a good party.
There's like one line like that and then there's another one
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where Luke and Lorelei have justslept together for the first
time and they haven't told anyone.
And then Lorelei comes down the stairs to get coffee, but the
diner is full of people. And you just see Gypsy go, like,
that's it. She's, like, so excited.
And she's like, because Lorelei is like, kind of partially
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dressed like, yeah. Oh nice.
So silly. That is funny.
I really love little Easter eggslike that where you're like,
someone's bringing something in and it's not obvious, nor is it
really relevant to the plot, butit's still kind of fun to know.
Yeah. Oh OK, Ready for more book and
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movie differences? Yes.
OK, so we're talking about Father Mackie, right?
Father Backie also has a crazy plot line that it kind of makes
sense that they just completely removed it.
OK, so so basically in the movie, he's he's kind of just a
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guy who is a resident of Cooper's Chase.
And he has some sentences aroundlike, oh, he's been acting
weird, but it's never really followed up on.
Or is it relevant? So in the novel, Father Mackie
gets confronted by Elizabeth because she discovers that he
was living in the area in the 1970s, putting him in proximity
to the mysterious set of bones that bogged and finds hidden in
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the cemetery. Mackie reveals that he's not
actually a priest, but a Doctor Who served as a priest to the
sisters living at the condo in the 70s.
During his time there, he fell in love with one of the nuns,
Sister Margaret, whom he affectionately called Maggie.
But then Maggie gets pregnant and then and then gets exposed
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by another nun and then kills herself while like she is
pregnant. So then Father Mackie is like,
well, I don't want the cemetery to be demolished because Maggie
and my unborn child are buried here.
So he's like another red herringtype of figure.
But ultimately. He has so much to hide, but it
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has nothing to do with the murder.
Exactly, Yeah. Wow wow.
You know, I feel like if they had made this ATV show, like
could have fleshed out more of these plot lines.
Probably. I was thinking about that, but
then I was like, I wonder if it would turn out to be like the
resident, which is like, oh, there are so many random red
herrings and some of them are addressed and some of them
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aren't for the sake of time, youknow.
Mm Hmm. Mm hmm.
The residents, not the resident starring What's his face Matt
Zukry about being a resident in a.
Hospital. Sorry, not the resident.
The residents. The White House murder mystery,
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which did not get renewed for a second season.
Oh sad. I mean, what could they have
really done with this season 2? But.
You know, OK, Also, Motorheads didn't get renewed and they
really left it hanging at the end of season 1.
Yeah. Season 2 for Motorhead's Sad.
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So sad. OK, I have more, I have more
difference. Dude, keep on coming.
OK, here we go. Another difference is Jason,
Jason Ritchie. So a minor difference is that
it's not really a mystery that Jason was photoshopped out of
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this photograph. Like in the book.
He's like obviously in the photograph.
So it's like very clear that he's one of the investors, which
is fair because again, there is that guy, the Turkish Gianni
guy, who is actually like another investor who is more of
the menace. So yeah, Jason Richie's in the
photograph and in the novel, Jason actually doesn't get
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arrested because the detective chief inspectors don't actually
have enough evidence to arrest him.
So he does ask the Thursday Murder Club for help, though,
because he is in the photograph and he doesn't want the murder
to be pinned on him. So he gets their help.
And the whole thing with him being in an affair with Ian
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Bentham's wife is actually. Not the case in the novel.
So what happens actually, is that Jason begins to suspect
that another local, Karen Playfair, who lives with her
father Gordon, is the one guiltyof Bentham's murder, and he goes
on a date with her to suss her out.
But then they just end up dating.
OK, unexpectedly wholesome. I know right?
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And then in the movie, there's like 2 characters that like,
don't exist at all. So.
OK yeah. So yeah, I thought it was
interesting that like, they kindof like, clip out all of these
different storylines and kind ofreseem them together and they're
like, let's just make it so thatJesus have an affair, OK.
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Oh, and then there's like a lot more differences in this
Entertainment Weekly article. But then the last one that I
pulled out to talk about is the fate of Cooper's chase.
So in the movie, Joyce's daughter Joanna buys Cooper's
chase via her hedge fund. But in the novel, everything is
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actually orchestrated by Joanna,who then surprises the Thursday
Murder Club and is like, hey, bythe way, like, I bought this
place because she reviews Bentham's legal files And then,
like, ends up buying, there's the Cooper's Chase.
Yeah. So it's like Joanna's idea
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versus the Thursday Murder Club being like, hey, please buy us.
It's for sale. Yeah, exactly.
OK, that does make more sense because I was like A like, she's
not a real estate mogul. She runs a hedge fund.
B, No person that runs a hedge fund would be like, oh, it is
for sale. Oh, that sounds great.
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Yeah. I was very unrealistic.
Oh, yeah, So I my question that I I wrote down here was I put
why would Joanna even think thatCooper's chase was a bad idea
for her widowed mother? Do you remember how?
Joyce like, was like, oh. This is Cooper's Chase.
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Like, we have llamas and we havepuzzles and we have a Thursday
Murder Club, I guess. And then Joe was like, like.
Everybody has llamas. Yeah, I was like, your mom, your
mom wants to live here like. Yeah, I don't know why she would
be against it. I don't know.
Maybe she like wanted her to live with her or something.
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Maybe. Yeah, like why would?
You want to live away from family?
Like, yeah. Yeah, that's a fairpoint.
But I was like, this place is beautiful.
And she, your mom wants to make friends.
Yeah. Yeah, one thing that I did find
a little disbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable was
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the police officer, PCPC Donna Defritus.
I was a little like, how is thismeeting happening?
Like, why was she randomly called to Coopers Chase to do a
talk on home safety? Like what?
And then when her car was being towed, she just happily joined
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them for lunch. I was like, what?
That was funny. I thought her being there kind
of made sense cuz it kind of reminded me of in Parks and Rec
when Leslie's like giving all those sex Ed talks to the old
people, you know. So I feel like, you know, city
employees or whatever will do that.
But yeah, the just being like, Oh, my car is towed.
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Well, let me go get lunch. Yeah, that was that was less
believable for sure. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It was cute, but yeah, it was just like, wow, she's like fast
friends with these guys, conveniently.
Yeah, yeah. Also, what was unbelievable was
just the fact that they like notonly, well obviously the
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Thursday Murder Club was giving information to the police, but
then the police was also giving information to the Thursday
Murder Club. I was like, this would never
happen in real life. Yeah, like even if you did have
a woman on the inside, but maybeit was because Elizabeth had her
MI6MI5 credentials that Donna was like, OK, I'll share
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information with you, maybe. Maybe.
Yeah, we also didn't hear any reason why Donna transferred
from London in the first place. Oh, I, I think she did explain
it in the beginning. I don't remember exactly what
she said, but it was something like, oh, yeah, I used to work
in London, but then it was like too big blah, blah, blah.
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And then they were like, oh, so is that boring here?
And she was like, no, I think orsomething.
No, she like she did. Say it was boring, something
like that. OK, I think she did explain why
she moved in that conversation. I.
Just thought, OK, maybe I was waiting for some like big back
story reveal and then. Yeah, like she's.
I wasn't. Able to solve the murder myself.
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Yeah. And then also, I was like, wait,
she's a big city cop that came to this place and she's really
bored, but they have her just like going to retirement homes
and doing random talks. Like that's kind of a waste too.
I know. Yeah.
Well, I have no idea how the police world works, especially
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in the UK, but it would be surprising to me if, like a
seasoned cop, if they move to a different area, they're put at
the complete bottom of the totempole.
Yeah, like I feel like she wouldhave if she has more experience,
They would be like, oh, great, like let's use you for this
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murder, right? Yeah, exactly.
I mean, that's what I expected too.
And then she was like, I don't know, confused that she got put
on the murder case or something.And I was like, you're a big
city London cop, you probably like have more murder cases than
cops. That's.
Kind of true, yeah. I think at that point, though,
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she was just surprised that theywere going to give her anything
useful or like anything, anything interesting to do.
Yeah, that's true. I have a fun question for you,
considering the four members of the Thursday Murder Club.
Please sort them into the Hogwarts houses.
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Wow, OK, Joyce is a Hufflepuff. Ben Cosley.
What's his name? Ibrahim.
Ibrahim. I feel like Elizabeth is
Ravenclaw. Really.
I put Elizabeth as Ravenclaw. OK.
Well, if each of them needs to go in a different house, I would
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put Elizabeth and Gryffindor. I think cuz Ibrahim was so
nerdy, he was so nerdy and he loved like overcomplicating
things. Remember his like experiment to
see how long it takes to get to the house had nothing to do with
his feet and stuff. That's very, that's true.
And then Elizabeth, I was very like bold and like got to take
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matters into my own hands even though it's none of my business.
That is classic Gryffindor. So who would be Slither and Ron?
I think I guess so he what he did love.
He admired the success of his son in the wrestling world,
which admiring success slash having ambition is very slither
and. OK, OK.
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I think if I had to soar, I would have been, I would have
said Elizabeth Ravenclaw, Ibrahim, Slytherin.
But I think the way that you described Ibrahim just now, I
was like, Oh yeah, that's actually kind of true.
Maybe I wouldn't put Ibrahim in Slytherin.
Maybe I would put. I don't think I would put any of
them in Slytherin to be honest. Oh, I didn't know that was an
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option. Too late.
I would put David Tennant in. Yeah, fair friggin Barty Crouch
junior. Yeah, God.
OK, you just automatically put Joyce in the Hufflepuff, right?
You suffered. First of all, rude.
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Second of all, I am a Hufflepuffmyself.
I respect it, OK. Second of all, I was like, why
is Joyce just catching strays over here when Elizabeth was
like, oh somehow you have a clever daughter And she was like
so fuck, that was so rude, I noticed.
That too. Yeah, I was like, she's like
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trauma nurse. Like she she she's not not
intelligent. Obviously, yeah.
And then when when they went to the police station for the first
time and then Joyce was like, she's a nun.
And then Elizabeth was like, oh,nun.
That was very smart of you to say.
I was like, why are you so surprised?
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Yeah, I think it's probably because she's used to working
with Penny, the detective policeofficer person.
So I feel like she's probably missing her friend and that's
why she's like I have to get this cake loving trauma nurse as
my next Penny. That could be When you were
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reading about the book, did it say anything more about
Elizabeth's husband Steven? Cuz I feel like they were giving
us a back story to him but then it ended up being extremely
irrelevant and like he was superlucid when it mattered most AKA
like figuring out who the killerwas.
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Let me see, I think there wasn't, there wasn't really
anything more with Steven and the differences with the books.
The only, the only difference that was related to Steven is
that so Bogdan and Steven are playing chess and Bogdan
confess, confesses his murder toSteven.
But in the novel, there's no like recording of Bogdan's
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confession or anything. So Steven still knows that
Bogdan kills Tony, but he like promptly forgets.
But he was. He recorded all his chess games.
So then Elizabeth was like, oh, we have the recording.
Yeah. I think the only difference is
that the way in which Bogdan confesses the murder because of
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the murder happens differently. Like in the movie, it's an
accident, but in the book, it's a very intentional thing that
Bogdan does. So I think Bogdan is like
telling all this stuff to Steven.
I see. But Steven still forgets.
Yeah, I see. This is also reminding me.
What is that show we all watchedtogether on Netflix while we
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were in Colorado? Perfect weekend.
Perfect. No.
With Nicole Kidman. Yeah, 4 perfect strangers.
No, not 9 perfect strangers. Nicole Kidman.
Perfect couple, perfect couple the.
Perfect couple. Oh yeah, the perfect couple.
(31:50):
So. 4 perfect couples strangers.Couples are cheap.
Perfect match. Love is love is bland.
Love is bland. So OK, in The Perfect Couple it
was actually the opposite, wherein the book it was an accidental
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murder, but then in the show they showed Oh yeah.
Also spoiler alert for The Perfect Couple in the show, it's
not it's not an accident. And Abby actually did kill her
intentionally. Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, that's
opposite too. This movie in which in the book
it was intentional and in the show it was an accident or in
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the movie. I was actually surprised that
there were there ended up being 2 murders.
So when Tony died I was like oh who's it going to be?
It's probably Ethan or they wantyou to think it's Ethan or Ian
but it's actually not Ian. And then Ian dies too.
And I was like. What two bodies?
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I actually did expect that because he was like really
shifty. And they were like, why are you
so shifty? And I was like, he probably
thinks he's next. And then he was.
Oh, I see. Yeah.
I didn't catch that. I thought he was shifty just
because he was nervous about being considered the killer
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because he had the most to gain.And then he was like, Oh no,
they're obviously going to thinkit's me, but it's actually not
me. That is true.
That is true. I also like that it tied back to
the very first murder that they were talking about, the Angela
Angela woman in the white dress.Angela Davis.
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Maya Angelou, love. Island.
Oh my God, We should figure thisout, OK?
Peter Kessler. Peter Mercer is the boyfriend of
the stabbing victim. Hughes, Angela Hughes.
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Angela Hughes. I think, how'd we get here?
I was just saying, I was saying that I like that they tied it
back and then we closed the loopon that as well.
And it actually like if this murder hadn't happened, that one
never would have been solved. Probably right?
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Yes, because. Yeah.
Because what happened is that Bogden uncovered the bones.
Bones equal Peter Mercer. Peter Mercer's death equals
Penny Killing Peter Mercer equals.
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John protecting Penny for killing Peter Mercer equals John
fentanyl killing he and Bentham to continue to protect Bunny.
Yup. OK.
That is kind of a stretch though, right?
I mean in terms of how realisticit is.
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Probably in terms of like, he's like the only way that I can
keep my the secret is to kill Ian.
Like if he didn't kill Ian and they just uncovered the bones.
Oh, it still would have. So it's not connected really.
They just happened to solve the second one.
Right, that's exactly I guess. So I guess so.
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I guess he would have dug it up anyway.
Wait, why was he digging up the grave?
Now that I'm also trying to figure that out.
So I think what happened is theywere just trying to break
ground, right? Because Ian Belton was the
start. Of breaking ground.
Yeah, he was in the car with with Bogdan.
He was like, Bogdan, you just have to go and break ground
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because legally we have to breakground on this day.
And then Bogdan goes to that particular grave and starts
digging up bodies. That is what's confusing to.
Me, yeah. Like why would Bogdan just try
to dig up the cemetery? Yeah, why are we starting with
the cemetery? Yeah.
OK, so it's just a very fortuitous coincidence.
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I guess so yappers, if you know,and if you paid way more
attention and probably also readthe book, let us know.
Cuz I was very happily, I had myhead in the sand.
And now that I'm thinking about this, I'm like, wait, what?
But yeah, I agree. I mean, I did like how they
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pulled that case into this one and kind of tied it together.
Yeah. And we learned a little bit more
about Penny. Yeah.
Yeah, and then John and Penny died at the same time.
That was really. Sad yeah cuz he fentanyl
overdosed both of them. I don't think so.
(36:56):
I think they just died. Is that what he did?
I thought so. That's crazy.
Wait, now let's look this up before I fake news all over the
place. No, I think you're right.
I think that is what they did, and that's why they died at the
same time, because Elizabeth found out their secrets, right?
And so they were like, well, nowwhat do we do?
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Penny's in a coma and John's like here, so.
Yeah, OK, I asked Google. Did John kill Penny in Thursday?
Murder Club and Gemini says no, John did not kill Penny, though
he does administer A lethal doseof fentanyl to both himself and
Penny, which results in their deaths.
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OK. So yes.
So yes, what freaking stupid assGemini.
Gemini 2.5 Pro. So yes.
OK, got it. OK, so yes.
And that's why they died at the same time.
(37:58):
Yeah. Yeah.
OK, that makes sense all. Oh, I guess another like minor
difference is that in in the movie, Elizabeth confronts Penny
and John just by herself. But in the OR sorry, in the
book, she confronts John and Penny by herself, but in the
movie everyone else is there too.
So maybe that's why John was like, I have to, yeah, I gotta
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administer this lethal dose, butnot kill her, according to
Gemini. Just result in her death.
It's a loophole. Did I murder her or did I just
administer A lethal dose that resulted in her death?
(38:47):
Tomato. Tomato or a Gemini's case,
tomato, potato are two differentthings.
Oh yeah. One thing that made me tear up
was when Steven and Elizabeth were talking at the beginning of
the movie. And then Steven was like, oh, I,
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I saw a magpie in the garden andI was looking it up again.
It was only a, a lone magpie. And I saw that magpie's mate for
life, just like us. And I was like.
So cute. Cute.
But the the poor magpie. So, Dad.
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Where's the Magpies meet? Yeah, anyway, cute, I wrote,
crying in the club in all caps. So sweet.
Oh, I also wanted to say that Ron is really good at making
banners. You go Ron.
Oh, my gosh. The whole time I just, I
couldn't tell if Pierce Brosnan was very good at acting super
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old or if that's just how old heis now.
But I was like, whoa, like, yeah, I don't know.
I just know him as James Bond. And also the love interest in
Mamma Mia. Oh, I'm gonna look him up now.
OK, OK, he's he's not that old. I mean, he's old for sure.
(40:15):
But do. You think he was acting older
than he really is. I thought he was acting kind of
the same. I think, OK, he acted exactly
his age. OK, all right.
He's just super old now. Do you want to guess how old he
is? 74720 All right, Yeah.
Cool. Nice.
Silver Fox. Silver Fox.
(40:38):
Yeah, I I guess we're super old cuz I was like Mamma Mia like
just came out like wait, no, no,no, no. 20 years ago, yeah.
Wait, when? When did Mamma Mia come out?
I'm gonna guess 2009, 2000. 8. Oh, I was so close.
(41:01):
Yes, correct. Yeah.
Wait, now I'm trying to see whatPierce Brosnan looks like in
Mamma Mia. He was also silver fox, but like
more zaddy than complete silver fox.
Yes, OK. Wow, he that movie did come out
many years ago. So I was like, huh, Well, that
(41:25):
is Pierce Brosnan. But that is, I guess he's just
the beard. The beard makes him older too.
Yeah, and the fact that he's notlike salt and pepper, it's like
fully white. Yeah, yeah.
I have a sad fun fact about Pierce Brosnan, which is that he
has only been married twice and his first wife died.
(41:50):
Oh no. Yeah, and he's been with the
second wife for, like, a long time now.
Yeah. Such a loyal Hollywood man.
Oh, yeah. Divorced twice.
Opposite story of Pierce Brosnan.
Yes. Yeah.
Aw. Pierce.
Yeah, yeah, he was cute. Actually, I thought there would
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be a love story between Pierce and Joyce, not Pierce and Ron,
Ron and Joyce. Because when Ron and Joyce first
meet, he's like Enchante and then, like, kisses her hand or
something. And I'm like, oh, OK.
But I guess maybe he's just a flirt.
Maybe. Maybe.
(42:30):
Were they showing at the end that Joyce and Ibrahim were kind
of a thing? No, they were showing Ibrahim's
sexuality. Oh, Oh my gosh.
(42:53):
Ibrahim's like and this was my roommate who's make sure I keep
in my. Wallet.
Oh my God, I'm so dead. I'm so dead.
I was like, not, I did not put that together.
And I was like, oh, they're holding hands.
Cute. Oh my God, how heteronormative
(43:13):
of me. Great, No?
Yeah, actually. OK, to be fair, when this scene
started, I also was like, oh, I guess they are being coupled
together. And then when Ibrahim showed her
the picture, I was like, oh, OK,confirmed.
Got it. Oh, this is another movie and
book difference is that in the in the book they don't talk
(43:36):
about Abraham's sexuality at all.
It's kind of just like a mysteryor a mystery, I guess.
But yeah, book, it's like confirmed.
Cute. Yeah, yeah.
And then one last book and moviedifference in the book.
Bobby Tanner is not really a menace.
I thought it was so wholesome how he was like, my one true
(43:58):
passion is pruning flowers and making flower arrangements.
I was like. Cute, but yeah, I don't have to
show his hands, like, dripping with blood like.
OK, agreed. That was a little weird.
I thought they would explain that somehow and then they just
didn't and I was like, you mightbe good at making flower
(44:20):
arrangements, but you could use some gloves.
At what cost, Sir? At what cost?
I think that would help you just, you know, chilled a little
bit. Yeah, that was kind of morbid.
But yeah. So in the book, Bobby Tanner is
not not a menace really. So that that's what I was
(44:41):
talking about. That guy, Turkish Gianni, like a
lot of his aggression or aggressive behavior, it was kind
of put into the character of Bobby Tanner for the movie.
But in the book, he's just like another business partner.
Got it. Yeah.
Oh yeah. And then did you think when you
(45:02):
saw the flower bouquet that Elizabeth got, were you like,
that's a killer flower bouquet? Cuz I just kind of thought it
was like, cute. I thought it was cute.
I was like, why would someone send a threatening flower
bouquet? That's kind of weird.
And then Elizabeth I was like. Such a giveaway.
Yeah. The man the floor is sending
(45:24):
flower bouquets never would haveguessed.
Yeah, I was like, that's so weird.
Like, why is he doing all of this?
He's basically begging her to come and, like, find him at his
flower shop. Literally, literally.
Yeah. And then.
But yeah, she was like, oh, theywere.
The bouquet was made of lilacs and ranunculus, which is just,
you know, that's a threat if I've ever seen one.
(45:46):
And I was like, is it? I would be very happy if someone
gave me ranunculus and lilacs. It sounds like a good time.
Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna look up
ranunculus butter cups. Binunculus.
Oh, they're so cute. This means death.
Yeah, I don't know. Oh, OK.
(46:09):
The 10 flowers that you should never give to anyone.
You should never give butter cups because there is a reason
you don't often see butter cups in floral bouquets.
They represent childishness. No matter how sweet you think it
is, never give butter cups to a loved 1 butterfly weed.
(46:29):
That means leave me yellow carnations.
They symbolize rejection and disdain.
Oh my God, If someone gives me butterfly weed and it's like
you're supposed to know that I want you to leave me, I feel
like get the fuck out. Leave me, Yeah.
It's seriously OK. Orange Lily.
I think lilies were in the bouquet, right?
(46:51):
Maybe. I'm not sure.
OK, but orange lilies specifically orange symbolize
hatred, pride, and disdain. So you shouldn't put orange
lilies in your bouquet. Petunia symbolizes resentment
and anger. Just like on Petunia, she's.
So resentful. Fuck JK Rowling.
(47:12):
We're saying that a lot this episode.
Black rose symbolizes death. Makes sense.
Let's see what else. And begonias means deep
thinking. Yeah.
OK. And then Akonite or otherwise
(47:33):
known as monks hood. This pretty looking flower means
hatred and be cautious. Oh, wolfsbane.
That's the flower that ingenian Georgia Georgia uses to kill
people. Oh.
Wow wow OK well now that is goodto know cuz I think if someone
(47:56):
did give me akinite I'd be like oh purple what do you I need the
ones. You can suck.
Are these honeysuckles? Let me suck on that flower.
Yes, that is what 1 does after one gets a flower bouquet.
(48:18):
You just suck on all of that. Wait question, did Florida have
honeysuckle? Is that like the white flower
with like the four? Like white petals?
No, let me look it up. It is a purple flower and you
like take the flower off the stem and like suck on it and you
taste a little bit of sweetness.Oh, I don't.
(48:40):
I didn't know that. I guess that makes sense why
they call it a honeysuckle, but OK, got it.
I don't think Florida had a honeysuckle, but I do remember
as a kid I would eat those little clovers.
I would pick the clovers and then eat the stem because the
stem had some like a purple thing in the stem and I would
eat it and it would be like a little tangy.
(49:02):
It tastes pretty good. Wait, okay, now I'm looking up
honeysuckle. Yeah, okay, wait.
There's one picture that looks like what I know is honeysuckle,
but all the other pictures are not, so I don't know what flower
I was sucking on. Thank God it wasn't wolfsbane.
Thank God you are here. Today that's funny back in the
(49:25):
90s when parents just let children roam free and for.
We just ate Clover stones. Yeah, but oh, actually.
So all varieties of Clover are edible.
So survival tip, if you see clovers and you are really
(49:45):
hankering for a little snack, clovers.
Yum. Yeah, and you know, just stay
away from all purple flowers just in case.
It might be honeysuckle, it might be wolfsbane.
Well, sometimes you just no, don't do it just.
(50:05):
Don't. Don't do it.
Don't do it. Don't do it.
OK, so that makes sense that he was like putting together murder
flowers in a little bouquet and was like.
And she'll? Understand the symbolism.
It's still kind of weird though.I don't think I if I owned a
flower shop and I was trying to like.
(50:27):
Send a message. Yeah, send my OPS a message.
I would not be like, like, I'd just be like, back off.
Yeah, let me send a message through these flowers.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, OK.
Well, now we know. Now we know.
Great. Should we rate?
(50:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, let's do it. OK.
I think I would give this a fourout of five for quality and
probably a four out of five for enjoyment.
Yeah. Oh, OK.
OK. Wait, question when you say
quality, because I've actually had this question for the last
(51:07):
three episodes and I just forgotto ask you.
When you say, what do you mean by quality?
I guess just like a high qualityshow is like the shows that
prestige TV covers, you know? Like like good cinematography.
Yes, good acting, amazing writing, amazing acting, amazing
(51:30):
directing, cinematography. OK, Yeah, yeah, OK.
And then enjoyment is like how you personally enjoyed it.
Yes. OK, so an example of a show
that's bad quality but high enjoyment.
Love is bland. Love is bland.
Yeah, sure. Yeah, exactly.
(51:52):
Both of those shows. Yeah.
Yeah, I see. Got it.
But I. Can't think of one that's high
in high quality but low enjoyment maybe like.
Probably like a show like Hostage because I feel like it's
very personal, right? So I think for me it's probably
a high quality show, but I personally wouldn't enjoy it.
Yeah, Yeah, that's true. That's true.
(52:12):
Yeah. That's a good.
That's a good example. OK, cool.
OK. I think for me it would be 5 out
of five quality. I kind of want to give it a 5
out of five enjoyment, maybe 4 out of five enjoyment.
Yeah. So I think I think I would give
it a nine. Cute.
OK, yeah, OK. Yeah, it was very enjoyable.
(52:36):
Yeah, I really liked watching it.
I thought like the cinematography was very high
quality. I thought obviously acting was
good. Chris Columbus.
Chris Columbus. I think I guess the only reason
why it would be 4 out of five enjoyment versus 5 out of five
is I don't think it's a movie that I would like wanna watch
again. I guess like I think I got like
(52:57):
there's a reason to watch it again.
I feel like I got the enjoyment that I got out of it and it was
a great watch. Enjoyed it while I was watching
it but wouldn't go back again and again.
Not like K Pop Demon Hunters 10 out of 10.
How many times have you seen K pop demon hunters?
I've seen it. I've seen it all the way through
twice, but I've seen many, many clips of it.
(53:22):
Online, I feel like I know golden by heart.
I know that song so well already.
Oh my gosh. OK, so I know these two things
probably aren't correlated, but when we actually recorded our
Byr episode on K Pop Demon Hunters, which is our number one
listen to episode, by the way, when we were recording that at
the time, there were two songs and we talked about this in the
(53:44):
episode, there was your idol andGolden that were in the top five
Billboard songs and your idol was slightly above golden.
And I told Izzy I was like, we need to get on that because we
need to make the Hone Moon golden.
So everyone should listen to Golden.
And then after that, Golden became #1 and I'm not saying
(54:09):
causation, correlation, whateverthe case may be.
Who's to say? Who's But I will be taking
credit for that. You're welcome, K Pop demon
hunters. You're welcome.
Nice. Yeah, OK, great, great.
And your. Progress, progress, Yeah, the
(54:29):
segment where we talk about things that we are consuming
outside of the show. Yes, I What have I been
watching? I just restarted Scandal.
Did you ever watch Scandal? I think I watched like the first
two episodes but I never really got into it.
OK. I think I watched like the first
two or three seasons and then fell off.
(54:51):
But yeah, I'm using that as my solo show for like when I'm
working out or when I'm like, inbed or whatever.
Yeah. Gosh, I don't even think I have
anything that I've been binging.I feel like I talked about a lot
last episode. Yeah, you did.
You did. Which we only recorded like 3 or
4 days ago. Yeah, Yeah, it was 3 days ago.
(55:14):
Sorry I've been binging cough. Syrup and cough syrup by Young
The Giant. Nope, actual cough syrup.
I see. Yeah, so I haven't been binging
anything, but one thing I am looking forward to is all the TV
(55:38):
that's coming out now. So with Love Megan season 2 just
came out. I don't know if I'm going to
watch it actually. I know I don't know either.
We should go back and listen to our first episode.
So Yappers, you probably know this, but with Love, Megan,
Season 1 was our very first episode of this podcast.
(55:58):
And I think people are listeningto it now because there's like
there's been some activity on that episode since Season 2 was
released. And I don't know if at the end
of that episode that we said that we were gonna watch it or
not. Can't remember.
OK, we have to go back and listen and figure it out but I
(56:19):
that was only 5 months ago. I can't believe they've already
released to season 2. I know and cancelled all the
other season twos of the other shows that we've covered.
Crazy, crazy. I think I said something like I
would put it on in the background and watch it in the
background, something like that.But I don't even think I'm going
to do that, mostly because there's so much other stuff
(56:39):
coming out. Yeah, yeah, Wednesday Part 2 is
coming out very soon. Then there's like another
cartoon show that was released on Netflix that I keep getting.
I keep seeing reels about. It's like a long life.
Yeah, I think that was one we considered for this podcast.
And then we were like, it's ugly.
(57:01):
Sorry, Yappers. Yeah, so we did consider it.
I don't, we didn't really like the animation style that much so
that we didn't, but it feels it feels like a similar thing to
Bojack Horseman if people ever watch that.
So I probably won't be watching that show either though.
(57:27):
But you're so excited for everything coming out.
What else is coming? Out.
OK, you're right, this is a lot of compounds my life with the
Walter boys that I will also notbe.
Watching Do You Even Like TV? Excuse me for having a life.
(57:48):
Oh, OK, You know what I've been actually doing in my time?
Pokémon Go. OK, that's that's your binge.
Yeah, there was a community day today and I'm getting our friend
Poonen, I'm getting her fiance Michael into it and I'm very
excited. Oh yeah, he told me.
Yeah, I told him all that. I was like, hey, in 2 minutes
(58:11):
the rickety community day will be starting.
Here's what you need to know. Yes, and then there's like a
mega Gyarados raid day tomorrow cited for that.
And when I'm not playing PokémonGo, I'm playing pickleball.
Hell yeah. Getting ready for Shalini's
(58:34):
birthday party, which is a pickle ball tournament.
Pickle best 4 point O. It's been 4 years.
No, but it's been 4 tournaments.Yeah.
Do you have that? I've been doing it twice a year.
Yeah. Yeah.
Thanks for yapping. Thanks for pickling with us.
Thanks for yapping with us. If you love this episode, have
(58:58):
some hot takes we missed, or if you've got a show you're dying
for us to binge next, follow us on socials we're at, Binge Yapp,
Repeat. Until next time, happy binging.
Hey yappers, welcome back to Binge Yapper Pete.
Today we're yapping about the Thursday Murder Club, Netflixs
new lighthearted geriatric murder mystery film.
We dive into a bunch of the differences between the book and
the movie, discuss the absolutely stacked cast of
stars, and talk about some interesting flower symbolism and
(00:22):
what a gift of flowers may say about the person who gave it to
you. Let's get started.
Hello fellow yappers, I'm Ruchi.And I'm Shalini and we're your
hosts. A binge, yap, repeat.
We're two best friends who spendan embarrassing amount of time
binge watching TV, and honestly,we just need to talk about it.
If here, we're guessing you do too.
(00:43):
Fair warning. This is a spoiler friendly zone.
We will be discussing lots of spoilers, so if you haven't
watched the show yet, hit pause,go binge, and come back when
you're ready to yap with us. And now it's yap time.
(01:14):
Ashley hi Ruchi, welcome to another episode of Benji App
Repeat. Thanks.
It's Thursday and you know what that means.
Another murder club meeting. It's funny because we we covered
Wednesday, which came out on Wednesday and now we're covering
(01:37):
Thursday Murder Club which came out on Thursday.
And then you're going to see Freakier Friday.
On Sunday on. Sunday.
What a shame, What a. Shame, I know.
Oh, I guess this is related, butso I think this is the last
episode that we're going to release on a Thursday.
We're shifting. Yeah, OK.
Yeah. So this is the last episode that
(01:58):
we're going to release on a Thursday.
And it's very appropriate that Thursday Murder Club is the last
episode that we do this because we we are shifting our release
schedule to actually release on Mondays after this episode comes
out. So from now on.
Mostly because we can't edit this podcast in the middle of
(02:21):
the week anymore like we have. Yeah, both.
Both Shalini and I are starting new jobs, which I think will
take a lot of our attention. But the good news is your
episodes come three days early, so.
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I just realized I haven't told any of
my Co workers that I'm starting a new job because I'm waiting
for my manager to come back fromvacation.
(02:44):
But I don't think any of my Co workers listen anyway.
Just. Go find out.
OK, actually if they listen to this podcast and find out this
way, they deserve to know early.I'm like, waiting for the day.
I don't think this will happen anytime soon, if at all.
But I'm waiting for the day thatsomeone, like, recognizes me out
(03:04):
in the wild. And it's like, are you the host
of Benji Upper P? And I'll be like you.
Listen. I think it'll be more exciting
as a podcast host for people to do that.
But when people did it at the climbing gym, it was exciting.
But also like when I go to the climbing gym, I'm not, I'm not
on, you know? And so I feel like when I like
(03:25):
post, when I posted reels, it was like, oh, ha, ha.
And like when I chose to engage,I was on, but I was when I was
at the gym. I'm like getting frustrated at a
climb and I just wanted to save space to do that and like work
out and stuff, you know? I do feel like we're very much
ourselves on this podcast, so it's not like we have to put on
a front for the podcast. I agree.
Yeah, If you're in the Bay Area and you see either of us, come
(03:47):
say hi. There's also a good chance that
many of our viewers don't actually know what we look like
because they don't watch the video.
Faces made for podcasts. Anyway, today we are here to
talk about Thursday Murder Club,which is a Netflix movie that
(04:09):
premiered on Thursday, August 28th.
The Thursday murder club is based on the novel of the same
name by Richard Osmond and it's about a group of retirees or
British pensioners who spent every Thursday solving cold case
murders for fun. However, their casual sleuthing
takes a turn when they find themselves in the middle of a
(04:31):
real whodunit on their hands. The film stars Helen Mirren,
Pierce Brosnan, Celia Emery and Ben Kingsley as the the Thursday
Murder Club members. And yeah, some some heavy
hitters, honestly. Stacked cast.
So stacked. Yeah.
What did you think? I thought it was absolutely
(04:54):
delightful. I thought it was so adorable.
I love murder mysteries and the cast was amazing.
The acting was obviously so good.
And yeah, it was just really cute.
I think I I've been watching so much television recently that I
haven't watched a movie or like a made for TV movie in a long
time. But I really liked it and I
(05:17):
thought the pacing was great andit was so adorable.
Yeah, I agree. I even wrote down, I think it
was like the first 3 to 5 seconds of the movie starting, I
was like, I'm locked in. Like I already know I'm going to
love this movie. Just like something about the
saturated colours and the beautiful sets and the gardens
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and the British and the UKI was like, I'm in, this is.
Great. Oh, and David Tennant we forgot
to mention. Oh yes, David.
David, When I saw David Tennant,I was like, I'm so in.
I I experienced a little bit of face blindness when I saw him.
At first I was like, is that theguy in Department Q?
And I was like, Oh no, no, no, it's not.
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That Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes.
Yeah. Then I was like, is that Doctor
Who? It is.
He is Doctor Who, right? David Tennant.
I actually don't know, I know him as well.
Fuck JK Rowling, Barty Crouch Junior and as the guy in
Broadchurch. Yes, I recognize him in
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Broadchurch. Yes, he is Doctor Who.
OK, I've never. Watched Doctor Who, but yeah.
I haven't either, but I rememberseeing like pictures of him,
like dressed up as Doctor Who and I was like, OK, yeah.
Lot of lot of heavy hitters. Yeah, and the High Septon,
what's his real name? Oh, sorry.
High Sparrow. Jonathan Pryce.
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He was Helen Mirren's husband inthis movie.
Oh yes, and also the guy who plays Bobby Tanner.
I recognize him too. Oh.
His name is apparently Richard Grant.
Oh, he's in Saltburn, apparently.
Oh yeah, he's the dad in Saltburn.
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Yeah, I think he's just one of those guys who's in randomly
everything, and I'm like, oh, him.
Yeah, don't actually know his name.
OK, now I know Richard E Grant and the guy who plays the Butler
in The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. That's how I know him.
Yeah, he was the minister guy. Yeah, if he plays Father Mackie,
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his name is Joseph Marcel. OK, OK, cool.
Yeah, OK, I have a fun fact about him too.
His character when we when it comes to the differences between
the book and the movie, if you want to get into that.
Yeah, let's just, I've read it. Oh, OK, OK.
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So there's actually quite a lot of differences between the book
and the movie. So I think the the director, I
think his name is Chris Columbus.
Well, he read the book and was so in love with the characters
and everything that he was like,I need to make a movie out of
this. So I think he he said something
like, I think the quote was something like if I were to
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remain extremely true to the book, the movie would have been
7 hours long or something. Whoa.
Yeah, and so I found this Entertainment Weekly article
that basically talks about the differences between the book and
the movie. There's definitely a lot.
So I guess the biggest difference is that there are
there is like one major missing character.
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So in the novel, they have this character who is called Turkish,
Turkish Gianni, and he's apparently a major red herring.
He is the other business partnerof Tony Curran, Jason Ritchie
and Bobby Tanner. And Jason and Bobby both think
that this guy, Turkish Gianni, has like, found a way to like,
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come back from Cyprus and is actually the one who killed
Tony. And they have like a whole thing
where they actually go to Cyprusand they interview his mom and
his mom's like, I've never. It's like, yeah, I haven't seen
Turkish Gianni in quite a long time, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, So I think he's supposedto be like the biggest suspect
in the book, and then he just doesn't even exist in the movie.
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So I think what has happened is that Bobby Tanner takes a little
bit of that heat about like he'sthe aggressive third individual
who everyone is kind of scared of.
And then there's also Bogdan, who is trying to get his
passport back. There's a little bit of a flavor
in Turkishiani with Bogdan and then I think.
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Was Bogdan in the books? Bogden was in the book and okay,
this is another big difference of Bogden is that in the movie,
Bogden is basically like, yeah, I killed Tony, but it was a
mistake, it was an accident. And then it turns out in the
book, he actually intentionally kills Tony because Tony kills
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his best friend. Tony uses Turkish Gianni to kill
Bogdan's best friend and then Bogdan is like waiting for
revenge and then like finds his revenge and kills Tony because
of the murder. Yeah.
So the fact that the sky TurkishGianni is completely removed
means like that There is some other storylines that need to be
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a little bit fin angled. Interesting.
That's, that's funny cuz I do, Idid notice like a dearth of red
herrings in this movie. I think that just I, you know,
in movies like this or in shows like this, you always expect
every single scene. It's like, oh, what if it's that
person? What if it's that person?
And I was like, we didn't reallyhave any of those except for, I
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guess Ron's son, Jason Ritchie, and that's it.
Yeah, I mean, there was kind of a little bit of Father Mackie,
too. People were like, Oh yeah,
Father Mackie has like, been acting strange lately.
Like what's going on with him? There are a couple lines like
that. That's true, but they didn't
like actually heavily investigate him or anything.
Yeah, exactly. There were just like a couple
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lines here and there. There were also some characters
like Bernard, who I think was mentioned maybe only once or
twice. So in the very beginning of the
movie, when Joyce comes into thepicture, Joyce and Bernard are
actually sitting next to each other and talking.
He's playing the Sudoku. Yes, the Sudoku.
Yeah. I was like, why did he say it
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like that? Yes.
So that was Bernard. And so actually in the books,
Bernard. Yes.
So actually in the books, Joyce and Bernard are supposed to be
kind of a couple. They're like supposed to be like
this new couple that has met at Cooper's chase.
And Joyce is kind of into him. But Bernard has a tragic story.
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OK, let me read this out to you.Oh my.
God. OK, so in the book, Bernard is
another red herring. Joyce has a rather obvious
question. Bernard regularly bring some
special cakes. Bernard has a habit of sitting
on a bench outside the cemetery that Ian Bentham, played by
Devin David Tennant, plans to demolish.
Thus, the Thursday Murder Club 6suspects him of having a motive
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for killing Bentham. So it turns out that Bernard sat
there because he secretly buriedhis wife in the cemetery with
the plans to relocate her ashes at a future date.
And I article doesn't go into why this is the case, but
apparently the bench with its cement base was built over the
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burial place, making it impossible for him to move her.
However, Bernard told his daughter that the ashes that she
brought to India were really hermother's.
So guilty over the possibility that the his daughter will
discover his lie, Bernard kills himself so that he can finally
be reunited with his wife. My.
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God, I know I was like the. Fuck.
Like up until that sentence I was like, oh, I guess that's
interesting. OK, what?
Oh my God. OK, I can see why that would
have added so much time to the movie.
So much. Complexity, yeah.
But the the Easter egg is that even though that story is not
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fleshed out at all and is basically completely removed,
Joyce or the character who playsJoyce still kind of plays into
that idea that she has a crush on Bernard, that her character
has a crush on Bernard, which iswhy she's sitting next to
Bernard and why he he's like kind of there still.
Cute like. The actress said that she played
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her scenes as if Joyce has a crush on Bernard.
Yeah, yeah. Even though it's not in the
movie. Yeah.
Cute. Yeah.
Cute. OK, I have two things to say.
One, I have a fun fact about Chris Columbus.
My fun fact is that he directed the first two Harry Potter
movies. Fuck JK Rowling.
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Chris Columbus yes, fuck JK Rowling.
But yeah, same Chris Columbus. And then after I saw that he
directed the movie, I realized, like the last shot of the movie
was so Harry Potter like where they're like dancing in their
room and then it zooms out of the window and then like shows
the whole thing. It's I feel like that's how so
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many Harry Potter scenes were. You're right.
Even even in the beginning of the movie where they're kind of
like panning over a Cooper's chase, I was like, oh, it's like
Harry Potter but for pensioners.Yeah.
OK. And the second, the thing that I
had to say was that this is a Gilmore Girls Easter egg.
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So if you don't care about this,you can Fast forward for the
next minute. But what you're saying about the
actress that played Joyce playing her character like she
had a crush on Bernard, remindedme that the actress that plays
Gypsy in Gilmore Girls, Rose Abdu.
She was a guest on Gilmore Guys the podcast, and she said that
she played all of her scenes as if she had a huge crush on
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Lorelei. Whatever.
It is never a plot in Gilmore Girls in the slightest.
She just like pretended like shehad a crush.
It was like her own little bit through the whole.
Why like did did you ever pick up on that?
After I learned that when I wentback and rewatched, there are a
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few scenes where you can kind oftell.
Like she she comes over for a super last minute party for
Lorelei's mom because she's throwing her mom like a very
last minute Bachelorette and Gypsy shows up and she's like,
I'm always down for a good party.
There's like one line like that and then there's another one
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where Luke and Lorelei have justslept together for the first
time and they haven't told anyone.
And then Lorelei comes down the stairs to get coffee, but the
diner is full of people. And you just see Gypsy go, like,
that's it. She's, like, so excited.
And she's like, because Lorelei is like, kind of partially
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dressed like, yeah. Oh nice.
So silly. That is funny.
I really love little Easter eggslike that where you're like,
someone's bringing something in and it's not obvious, nor is it
really relevant to the plot, butit's still kind of fun to know.
Yeah. Oh OK, Ready for more book and
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movie differences? Yes.
OK, so we're talking about Father Mackie, right?
Father Backie also has a crazy plot line that it kind of makes
sense that they just completely removed it.
OK, so so basically in the movie, he's he's kind of just a
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guy who is a resident of Cooper's Chase.
And he has some sentences aroundlike, oh, he's been acting
weird, but it's never really followed up on.
Or is it relevant? So in the novel, Father Mackie
gets confronted by Elizabeth because she discovers that he
was living in the area in the 1970s, putting him in proximity
to the mysterious set of bones that bogged and finds hidden in
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the cemetery. Mackie reveals that he's not
actually a priest, but a Doctor Who served as a priest to the
sisters living at the condo in the 70s.
During his time there, he fell in love with one of the nuns,
Sister Margaret, whom he affectionately called Maggie.
But then Maggie gets pregnant and then and then gets exposed
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by another nun and then kills herself while like she is
pregnant. So then Father Mackie is like,
well, I don't want the cemetery to be demolished because Maggie
and my unborn child are buried here.
So he's like another red herringtype of figure.
But ultimately. He has so much to hide, but it
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has nothing to do with the murder.
Exactly, Yeah. Wow wow.
You know, I feel like if they had made this ATV show, like
could have fleshed out more of these plot lines.
Probably. I was thinking about that, but
then I was like, I wonder if it would turn out to be like the
resident, which is like, oh, there are so many random red
herrings and some of them are addressed and some of them
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aren't for the sake of time, youknow.
Mm Hmm. Mm hmm.
The residents, not the resident starring What's his face Matt
Zukry about being a resident in a.
Hospital. Sorry, not the resident.
The residents. The White House murder mystery,
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which did not get renewed for a second season.
Oh sad. I mean, what could they have
really done with this season 2? But.
You know, OK, Also, Motorheads didn't get renewed and they
really left it hanging at the end of season 1.
Yeah. Season 2 for Motorhead's Sad.
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So sad. OK, I have more, I have more
difference. Dude, keep on coming.
OK, here we go. Another difference is Jason,
Jason Ritchie. So a minor difference is that
it's not really a mystery that Jason was photoshopped out of
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this photograph. Like in the book.
He's like obviously in the photograph.
So it's like very clear that he's one of the investors, which
is fair because again, there is that guy, the Turkish Gianni
guy, who is actually like another investor who is more of
the menace. So yeah, Jason Richie's in the
photograph and in the novel, Jason actually doesn't get
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arrested because the detective chief inspectors don't actually
have enough evidence to arrest him.
So he does ask the Thursday Murder Club for help, though,
because he is in the photograph and he doesn't want the murder
to be pinned on him. So he gets their help.
And the whole thing with him being in an affair with Ian
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Bentham's wife is actually. Not the case in the novel.
So what happens actually, is that Jason begins to suspect
that another local, Karen Playfair, who lives with her
father Gordon, is the one guiltyof Bentham's murder, and he goes
on a date with her to suss her out.
But then they just end up dating.
OK, unexpectedly wholesome. I know right?
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And then in the movie, there's like 2 characters that like,
don't exist at all. So.
OK yeah. So yeah, I thought it was
interesting that like, they kindof like, clip out all of these
different storylines and kind ofreseem them together and they're
like, let's just make it so thatJesus have an affair, OK.
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Oh, and then there's like a lot more differences in this
Entertainment Weekly article. But then the last one that I
pulled out to talk about is the fate of Cooper's chase.
So in the movie, Joyce's daughter Joanna buys Cooper's
chase via her hedge fund. But in the novel, everything is
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actually orchestrated by Joanna,who then surprises the Thursday
Murder Club and is like, hey, bythe way, like, I bought this
place because she reviews Bentham's legal files And then,
like, ends up buying, there's the Cooper's Chase.
Yeah. So it's like Joanna's idea
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versus the Thursday Murder Club being like, hey, please buy us.
It's for sale. Yeah, exactly.
OK, that does make more sense because I was like A like, she's
not a real estate mogul. She runs a hedge fund.
B, No person that runs a hedge fund would be like, oh, it is
for sale. Oh, that sounds great.
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Yeah. I was very unrealistic.
Oh, yeah, So I my question that I I wrote down here was I put
why would Joanna even think thatCooper's chase was a bad idea
for her widowed mother? Do you remember how?
Joyce like, was like, oh. This is Cooper's Chase.
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Like, we have llamas and we havepuzzles and we have a Thursday
Murder Club, I guess. And then Joe was like, like.
Everybody has llamas. Yeah, I was like, your mom, your
mom wants to live here like. Yeah, I don't know why she would
be against it. I don't know.
Maybe she like wanted her to live with her or something.
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Maybe. Yeah, like why would?
You want to live away from family?
Like, yeah. Yeah, that's a fairpoint.
But I was like, this place is beautiful.
And she, your mom wants to make friends.
Yeah. Yeah, one thing that I did find
a little disbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable was
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the police officer, PCPC Donna Defritus.
I was a little like, how is thismeeting happening?
Like, why was she randomly called to Coopers Chase to do a
talk on home safety? Like what?
And then when her car was being towed, she just happily joined
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them for lunch. I was like, what?
That was funny. I thought her being there kind
of made sense cuz it kind of reminded me of in Parks and Rec
when Leslie's like giving all those sex Ed talks to the old
people, you know. So I feel like, you know, city
employees or whatever will do that.
But yeah, the just being like, Oh, my car is towed.
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Well, let me go get lunch. Yeah, that was that was less
believable for sure. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It was cute, but yeah, it was just like, wow, she's like fast
friends with these guys, conveniently.
Yeah, yeah. Also, what was unbelievable was
just the fact that they like notonly, well obviously the
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Thursday Murder Club was giving information to the police, but
then the police was also giving information to the Thursday
Murder Club. I was like, this would never
happen in real life. Yeah, like even if you did have
a woman on the inside, but maybeit was because Elizabeth had her
MI6MI5 credentials that Donna was like, OK, I'll share
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information with you, maybe. Maybe.
Yeah, we also didn't hear any reason why Donna transferred
from London in the first place. Oh, I, I think she did explain
it in the beginning. I don't remember exactly what
she said, but it was something like, oh, yeah, I used to work
in London, but then it was like too big blah, blah, blah.
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And then they were like, oh, so is that boring here?
And she was like, no, I think orsomething.
No, she like she did. Say it was boring, something
like that. OK, I think she did explain why
she moved in that conversation. I.
Just thought, OK, maybe I was waiting for some like big back
story reveal and then. Yeah, like she's.
I wasn't. Able to solve the murder myself.
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Yeah. And then also, I was like, wait,
she's a big city cop that came to this place and she's really
bored, but they have her just like going to retirement homes
and doing random talks. Like that's kind of a waste too.
I know. Yeah.
Well, I have no idea how the police world works, especially
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in the UK, but it would be surprising to me if, like a
seasoned cop, if they move to a different area, they're put at
the complete bottom of the totempole.
Yeah, like I feel like she wouldhave if she has more experience,
They would be like, oh, great, like let's use you for this
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murder, right? Yeah, exactly.
I mean, that's what I expected too.
And then she was like, I don't know, confused that she got put
on the murder case or something.And I was like, you're a big
city London cop, you probably like have more murder cases than
cops. That's.
Kind of true, yeah. I think at that point, though,
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she was just surprised that theywere going to give her anything
useful or like anything, anything interesting to do.
Yeah, that's true. I have a fun question for you,
considering the four members of the Thursday Murder Club.
Please sort them into the Hogwarts houses.
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Wow, OK, Joyce is a Hufflepuff. Ben Cosley.
What's his name? Ibrahim.
Ibrahim. I feel like Elizabeth is
Ravenclaw. Really.
I put Elizabeth as Ravenclaw. OK.
Well, if each of them needs to go in a different house, I would
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put Elizabeth and Gryffindor. I think cuz Ibrahim was so
nerdy, he was so nerdy and he loved like overcomplicating
things. Remember his like experiment to
see how long it takes to get to the house had nothing to do with
his feet and stuff. That's very, that's true.
And then Elizabeth, I was very like bold and like got to take
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matters into my own hands even though it's none of my business.
That is classic Gryffindor. So who would be Slither and Ron?
I think I guess so he what he did love.
He admired the success of his son in the wrestling world,
which admiring success slash having ambition is very slither
and. OK, OK.
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I think if I had to soar, I would have been, I would have
said Elizabeth Ravenclaw, Ibrahim, Slytherin.
But I think the way that you described Ibrahim just now, I
was like, Oh yeah, that's actually kind of true.
Maybe I wouldn't put Ibrahim in Slytherin.
Maybe I would put. I don't think I would put any of
them in Slytherin to be honest. Oh, I didn't know that was an
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option. Too late.
I would put David Tennant in. Yeah, fair friggin Barty Crouch
junior. Yeah, God.
OK, you just automatically put Joyce in the Hufflepuff, right?
You suffered. First of all, rude.
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Second of all, I am a Hufflepuffmyself.
I respect it, OK. Second of all, I was like, why
is Joyce just catching strays over here when Elizabeth was
like, oh somehow you have a clever daughter And she was like
so fuck, that was so rude, I noticed.
That too. Yeah, I was like, she's like
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trauma nurse. Like she she she's not not
intelligent. Obviously, yeah.
And then when when they went to the police station for the first
time and then Joyce was like, she's a nun.
And then Elizabeth was like, oh,nun.
That was very smart of you to say.
I was like, why are you so surprised?
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Yeah, I think it's probably because she's used to working
with Penny, the detective policeofficer person.
So I feel like she's probably missing her friend and that's
why she's like I have to get this cake loving trauma nurse as
my next Penny. That could be When you were
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reading about the book, did it say anything more about
Elizabeth's husband Steven? Cuz I feel like they were giving
us a back story to him but then it ended up being extremely
irrelevant and like he was superlucid when it mattered most AKA
like figuring out who the killerwas.
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Let me see, I think there wasn't, there wasn't really
anything more with Steven and the differences with the books.
The only, the only difference that was related to Steven is
that so Bogdan and Steven are playing chess and Bogdan
confess, confesses his murder toSteven.
But in the novel, there's no like recording of Bogdan's
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confession or anything. So Steven still knows that
Bogdan kills Tony, but he like promptly forgets.
But he was. He recorded all his chess games.
So then Elizabeth was like, oh, we have the recording.
Yeah. I think the only difference is
that the way in which Bogdan confesses the murder because of
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the murder happens differently. Like in the movie, it's an
accident, but in the book, it's a very intentional thing that
Bogdan does. So I think Bogdan is like
telling all this stuff to Steven.
I see. But Steven still forgets.
Yeah, I see. This is also reminding me.
What is that show we all watchedtogether on Netflix while we
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were in Colorado? Perfect weekend.
Perfect. No.
With Nicole Kidman. Yeah, 4 perfect strangers.
No, not 9 perfect strangers. Nicole Kidman.
Perfect couple, perfect couple the.
Perfect couple. Oh yeah, the perfect couple.
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So. 4 perfect couples strangers.Couples are cheap.
Perfect match. Love is love is bland.
Love is bland. So OK, in The Perfect Couple it
was actually the opposite, wherein the book it was an accidental
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murder, but then in the show they showed Oh yeah.
Also spoiler alert for The Perfect Couple in the show, it's
not it's not an accident. And Abby actually did kill her
intentionally. Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, that's
opposite too. This movie in which in the book
it was intentional and in the show it was an accident or in
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the movie. I was actually surprised that
there were there ended up being 2 murders.
So when Tony died I was like oh who's it going to be?
It's probably Ethan or they wantyou to think it's Ethan or Ian
but it's actually not Ian. And then Ian dies too.
And I was like. What two bodies?
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I actually did expect that because he was like really
shifty. And they were like, why are you
so shifty? And I was like, he probably
thinks he's next. And then he was.
Oh, I see. Yeah.
I didn't catch that. I thought he was shifty just
because he was nervous about being considered the killer
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because he had the most to gain.And then he was like, Oh no,
they're obviously going to thinkit's me, but it's actually not
me. That is true.
That is true. I also like that it tied back to
the very first murder that they were talking about, the Angela
Angela woman in the white dress.Angela Davis.
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Maya Angelou, love. Island.
Oh my God, We should figure thisout, OK?
Peter Kessler. Peter Mercer is the boyfriend of
the stabbing victim. Hughes, Angela Hughes.
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Angela Hughes. I think, how'd we get here?
I was just saying, I was saying that I like that they tied it
back and then we closed the loopon that as well.
And it actually like if this murder hadn't happened, that one
never would have been solved. Probably right?
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Yes, because. Yeah.
Because what happened is that Bogden uncovered the bones.
Bones equal Peter Mercer. Peter Mercer's death equals
Penny Killing Peter Mercer equals.
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John protecting Penny for killing Peter Mercer equals John
fentanyl killing he and Bentham to continue to protect Bunny.
Yup. OK.
That is kind of a stretch though, right?
I mean in terms of how realisticit is.
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Probably in terms of like, he's like the only way that I can
keep my the secret is to kill Ian.
Like if he didn't kill Ian and they just uncovered the bones.
Oh, it still would have. So it's not connected really.
They just happened to solve the second one.
Right, that's exactly I guess. So I guess so.
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I guess he would have dug it up anyway.
Wait, why was he digging up the grave?
Now that I'm also trying to figure that out.
So I think what happened is theywere just trying to break
ground, right? Because Ian Belton was the
start. Of breaking ground.
Yeah, he was in the car with with Bogdan.
He was like, Bogdan, you just have to go and break ground
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because legally we have to breakground on this day.
And then Bogdan goes to that particular grave and starts
digging up bodies. That is what's confusing to.
Me, yeah. Like why would Bogdan just try
to dig up the cemetery? Yeah, why are we starting with
the cemetery? Yeah.
OK, so it's just a very fortuitous coincidence.
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I guess so yappers, if you know,and if you paid way more
attention and probably also readthe book, let us know.
Cuz I was very happily, I had myhead in the sand.
And now that I'm thinking about this, I'm like, wait, what?
But yeah, I agree. I mean, I did like how they
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pulled that case into this one and kind of tied it together.
Yeah. And we learned a little bit more
about Penny. Yeah.
Yeah, and then John and Penny died at the same time.
That was really. Sad yeah cuz he fentanyl
overdosed both of them. I don't think so.
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I think they just died. Is that what he did?
I thought so. That's crazy.
Wait, now let's look this up before I fake news all over the
place. No, I think you're right.
I think that is what they did, and that's why they died at the
same time, because Elizabeth found out their secrets, right?
And so they were like, well, nowwhat do we do?
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Penny's in a coma and John's like here, so.
Yeah, OK, I asked Google. Did John kill Penny in Thursday?
Murder Club and Gemini says no, John did not kill Penny, though
he does administer A lethal doseof fentanyl to both himself and
Penny, which results in their deaths.
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OK. So yes.
So yes, what freaking stupid assGemini.
Gemini 2.5 Pro. So yes.
OK, got it. OK, so yes.
And that's why they died at the same time.
(37:58):
Yeah. Yeah.
OK, that makes sense all. Oh, I guess another like minor
difference is that in in the movie, Elizabeth confronts Penny
and John just by herself. But in the OR sorry, in the
book, she confronts John and Penny by herself, but in the
movie everyone else is there too.
So maybe that's why John was like, I have to, yeah, I gotta
(38:23):
administer this lethal dose, butnot kill her, according to
Gemini. Just result in her death.
It's a loophole. Did I murder her or did I just
administer A lethal dose that resulted in her death?
(38:47):
Tomato. Tomato or a Gemini's case,
tomato, potato are two differentthings.
Oh yeah. One thing that made me tear up
was when Steven and Elizabeth were talking at the beginning of
the movie. And then Steven was like, oh, I,
(39:09):
I saw a magpie in the garden andI was looking it up again.
It was only a, a lone magpie. And I saw that magpie's mate for
life, just like us. And I was like.
So cute. Cute.
But the the poor magpie. So, Dad.
(39:29):
Where's the Magpies meet? Yeah, anyway, cute, I wrote,
crying in the club in all caps. So sweet.
Oh, I also wanted to say that Ron is really good at making
banners. You go Ron.
Oh, my gosh. The whole time I just, I
couldn't tell if Pierce Brosnan was very good at acting super
(39:54):
old or if that's just how old heis now.
But I was like, whoa, like, yeah, I don't know.
I just know him as James Bond. And also the love interest in
Mamma Mia. Oh, I'm gonna look him up now.
OK, OK, he's he's not that old. I mean, he's old for sure.
(40:15):
But do. You think he was acting older
than he really is. I thought he was acting kind of
the same. I think, OK, he acted exactly
his age. OK, all right.
He's just super old now. Do you want to guess how old he
is? 74720 All right, Yeah.
Cool. Nice.
Silver Fox. Silver Fox.
(40:38):
Yeah, I I guess we're super old cuz I was like Mamma Mia like
just came out like wait, no, no,no, no. 20 years ago, yeah.
Wait, when? When did Mamma Mia come out?
I'm gonna guess 2009, 2000. 8. Oh, I was so close.
(41:01):
Yes, correct. Yeah.
Wait, now I'm trying to see whatPierce Brosnan looks like in
Mamma Mia. He was also silver fox, but like
more zaddy than complete silver fox.
Yes, OK. Wow, he that movie did come out
many years ago. So I was like, huh, Well, that
(41:25):
is Pierce Brosnan. But that is, I guess he's just
the beard. The beard makes him older too.
Yeah, and the fact that he's notlike salt and pepper, it's like
fully white. Yeah, yeah.
I have a sad fun fact about Pierce Brosnan, which is that he
has only been married twice and his first wife died.
(41:50):
Oh no. Yeah, and he's been with the
second wife for, like, a long time now.
Yeah. Such a loyal Hollywood man.
Oh, yeah. Divorced twice.
Opposite story of Pierce Brosnan.
Yes. Yeah.
Aw. Pierce.
Yeah, yeah, he was cute. Actually, I thought there would
(42:10):
be a love story between Pierce and Joyce, not Pierce and Ron,
Ron and Joyce. Because when Ron and Joyce first
meet, he's like Enchante and then, like, kisses her hand or
something. And I'm like, oh, OK.
But I guess maybe he's just a flirt.
Maybe. Maybe.
(42:30):
Were they showing at the end that Joyce and Ibrahim were kind
of a thing? No, they were showing Ibrahim's
sexuality. Oh, Oh my gosh.
(42:53):
Ibrahim's like and this was my roommate who's make sure I keep
in my. Wallet.
Oh my God, I'm so dead. I'm so dead.
I was like, not, I did not put that together.
And I was like, oh, they're holding hands.
Cute. Oh my God, how heteronormative
(43:13):
of me. Great, No?
Yeah, actually. OK, to be fair, when this scene
started, I also was like, oh, I guess they are being coupled
together. And then when Ibrahim showed her
the picture, I was like, oh, OK,confirmed.
Got it. Oh, this is another movie and
book difference is that in the in the book they don't talk
(43:36):
about Abraham's sexuality at all.
It's kind of just like a mysteryor a mystery, I guess.
But yeah, book, it's like confirmed.
Cute. Yeah, yeah.
And then one last book and moviedifference in the book.
Bobby Tanner is not really a menace.
I thought it was so wholesome how he was like, my one true
(43:58):
passion is pruning flowers and making flower arrangements.
I was like. Cute, but yeah, I don't have to
show his hands, like, dripping with blood like.
OK, agreed. That was a little weird.
I thought they would explain that somehow and then they just
didn't and I was like, you mightbe good at making flower
(44:20):
arrangements, but you could use some gloves.
At what cost, Sir? At what cost?
I think that would help you just, you know, chilled a little
bit. Yeah, that was kind of morbid.
But yeah. So in the book, Bobby Tanner is
not not a menace really. So that that's what I was
(44:41):
talking about. That guy, Turkish Gianni, like a
lot of his aggression or aggressive behavior, it was kind
of put into the character of Bobby Tanner for the movie.
But in the book, he's just like another business partner.
Got it. Yeah.
Oh yeah. And then did you think when you
(45:02):
saw the flower bouquet that Elizabeth got, were you like,
that's a killer flower bouquet? Cuz I just kind of thought it
was like, cute. I thought it was cute.
I was like, why would someone send a threatening flower
bouquet? That's kind of weird.
And then Elizabeth I was like. Such a giveaway.
Yeah. The man the floor is sending
(45:24):
flower bouquets never would haveguessed.
Yeah, I was like, that's so weird.
Like, why is he doing all of this?
He's basically begging her to come and, like, find him at his
flower shop. Literally, literally.
Yeah. And then.
But yeah, she was like, oh, theywere.
The bouquet was made of lilacs and ranunculus, which is just,
you know, that's a threat if I've ever seen one.
(45:46):
And I was like, is it? I would be very happy if someone
gave me ranunculus and lilacs. It sounds like a good time.
Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna look up
ranunculus butter cups. Binunculus.
Oh, they're so cute. This means death.
Yeah, I don't know. Oh, OK.
(46:09):
The 10 flowers that you should never give to anyone.
You should never give butter cups because there is a reason
you don't often see butter cups in floral bouquets.
They represent childishness. No matter how sweet you think it
is, never give butter cups to a loved 1 butterfly weed.
(46:29):
That means leave me yellow carnations.
They symbolize rejection and disdain.
Oh my God, If someone gives me butterfly weed and it's like
you're supposed to know that I want you to leave me, I feel
like get the fuck out. Leave me, Yeah.
It's seriously OK. Orange Lily.
I think lilies were in the bouquet, right?
(46:51):
Maybe. I'm not sure.
OK, but orange lilies specifically orange symbolize
hatred, pride, and disdain. So you shouldn't put orange
lilies in your bouquet. Petunia symbolizes resentment
and anger. Just like on Petunia, she's.
So resentful. Fuck JK Rowling.
(47:12):
We're saying that a lot this episode.
Black rose symbolizes death. Makes sense.
Let's see what else. And begonias means deep
thinking. Yeah.
OK. And then Akonite or otherwise
(47:33):
known as monks hood. This pretty looking flower means
hatred and be cautious. Oh, wolfsbane.
That's the flower that ingenian Georgia Georgia uses to kill
people. Oh.
Wow wow OK well now that is goodto know cuz I think if someone
(47:56):
did give me akinite I'd be like oh purple what do you I need the
ones. You can suck.
Are these honeysuckles? Let me suck on that flower.
Yes, that is what 1 does after one gets a flower bouquet.
(48:18):
You just suck on all of that. Wait question, did Florida have
honeysuckle? Is that like the white flower
with like the four? Like white petals?
No, let me look it up. It is a purple flower and you
like take the flower off the stem and like suck on it and you
taste a little bit of sweetness.Oh, I don't.
(48:40):
I didn't know that. I guess that makes sense why
they call it a honeysuckle, but OK, got it.
I don't think Florida had a honeysuckle, but I do remember
as a kid I would eat those little clovers.
I would pick the clovers and then eat the stem because the
stem had some like a purple thing in the stem and I would
eat it and it would be like a little tangy.
(49:02):
It tastes pretty good. Wait, okay, now I'm looking up
honeysuckle. Yeah, okay, wait.
There's one picture that looks like what I know is honeysuckle,
but all the other pictures are not, so I don't know what flower
I was sucking on. Thank God it wasn't wolfsbane.
Thank God you are here. Today that's funny back in the
(49:25):
90s when parents just let children roam free and for.
We just ate Clover stones. Yeah, but oh, actually.
So all varieties of Clover are edible.
So survival tip, if you see clovers and you are really
(49:45):
hankering for a little snack, clovers.
Yum. Yeah, and you know, just stay
away from all purple flowers just in case.
It might be honeysuckle, it might be wolfsbane.
Well, sometimes you just no, don't do it just.
(50:05):
Don't. Don't do it.
Don't do it. Don't do it.
OK, so that makes sense that he was like putting together murder
flowers in a little bouquet and was like.
And she'll? Understand the symbolism.
It's still kind of weird though.I don't think I if I owned a
flower shop and I was trying to like.
(50:27):
Send a message. Yeah, send my OPS a message.
I would not be like, like, I'd just be like, back off.
Yeah, let me send a message through these flowers.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, OK.
Well, now we know. Now we know.
Great. Should we rate?
(50:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, let's do it. OK.
I think I would give this a fourout of five for quality and
probably a four out of five for enjoyment.
Yeah. Oh, OK.
OK. Wait, question when you say
quality, because I've actually had this question for the last
(51:07):
three episodes and I just forgotto ask you.
When you say, what do you mean by quality?
I guess just like a high qualityshow is like the shows that
prestige TV covers, you know? Like like good cinematography.
Yes, good acting, amazing writing, amazing acting, amazing
(51:30):
directing, cinematography. OK, Yeah, yeah, OK.
And then enjoyment is like how you personally enjoyed it.
Yes. OK, so an example of a show
that's bad quality but high enjoyment.
Love is bland. Love is bland.
Yeah, sure. Yeah, exactly.
(51:52):
Both of those shows. Yeah.
Yeah, I see. Got it.
But I. Can't think of one that's high
in high quality but low enjoyment maybe like.
Probably like a show like Hostage because I feel like it's
very personal, right? So I think for me it's probably
a high quality show, but I personally wouldn't enjoy it.
Yeah, Yeah, that's true. That's true.
(52:12):
Yeah. That's a good.
That's a good example. OK, cool.
OK. I think for me it would be 5 out
of five quality. I kind of want to give it a 5
out of five enjoyment, maybe 4 out of five enjoyment.
Yeah. So I think I think I would give
it a nine. Cute.
OK, yeah, OK. Yeah, it was very enjoyable.
(52:36):
Yeah, I really liked watching it.
I thought like the cinematography was very high
quality. I thought obviously acting was
good. Chris Columbus.
Chris Columbus. I think I guess the only reason
why it would be 4 out of five enjoyment versus 5 out of five
is I don't think it's a movie that I would like wanna watch
again. I guess like I think I got like
(52:57):
there's a reason to watch it again.
I feel like I got the enjoyment that I got out of it and it was
a great watch. Enjoyed it while I was watching
it but wouldn't go back again and again.
Not like K Pop Demon Hunters 10 out of 10.
How many times have you seen K pop demon hunters?
I've seen it. I've seen it all the way through
twice, but I've seen many, many clips of it.
(53:22):
Online, I feel like I know golden by heart.
I know that song so well already.
Oh my gosh. OK, so I know these two things
probably aren't correlated, but when we actually recorded our
Byr episode on K Pop Demon Hunters, which is our number one
listen to episode, by the way, when we were recording that at
the time, there were two songs and we talked about this in the
(53:44):
episode, there was your idol andGolden that were in the top five
Billboard songs and your idol was slightly above golden.
And I told Izzy I was like, we need to get on that because we
need to make the Hone Moon golden.
So everyone should listen to Golden.
And then after that, Golden became #1 and I'm not saying
(54:09):
causation, correlation, whateverthe case may be.
Who's to say? Who's But I will be taking
credit for that. You're welcome, K Pop demon
hunters. You're welcome.
Nice. Yeah, OK, great, great.
And your. Progress, progress, Yeah, the
(54:29):
segment where we talk about things that we are consuming
outside of the show. Yes, I What have I been
watching? I just restarted Scandal.
Did you ever watch Scandal? I think I watched like the first
two episodes but I never really got into it.
OK. I think I watched like the first
two or three seasons and then fell off.
(54:51):
But yeah, I'm using that as my solo show for like when I'm
working out or when I'm like, inbed or whatever.
Yeah. Gosh, I don't even think I have
anything that I've been binging.I feel like I talked about a lot
last episode. Yeah, you did.
You did. Which we only recorded like 3 or
4 days ago. Yeah, Yeah, it was 3 days ago.
(55:14):
Sorry I've been binging cough. Syrup and cough syrup by Young
The Giant. Nope, actual cough syrup.
I see. Yeah, so I haven't been binging
anything, but one thing I am looking forward to is all the TV
(55:38):
that's coming out now. So with Love Megan season 2 just
came out. I don't know if I'm going to
watch it actually. I know I don't know either.
We should go back and listen to our first episode.
So Yappers, you probably know this, but with Love, Megan,
Season 1 was our very first episode of this podcast.
(55:58):
And I think people are listeningto it now because there's like
there's been some activity on that episode since Season 2 was
released. And I don't know if at the end
of that episode that we said that we were gonna watch it or
not. Can't remember.
OK, we have to go back and listen and figure it out but I
(56:19):
that was only 5 months ago. I can't believe they've already
released to season 2. I know and cancelled all the
other season twos of the other shows that we've covered.
Crazy, crazy. I think I said something like I
would put it on in the background and watch it in the
background, something like that.But I don't even think I'm going
to do that, mostly because there's so much other stuff
(56:39):
coming out. Yeah, yeah, Wednesday Part 2 is
coming out very soon. Then there's like another
cartoon show that was released on Netflix that I keep getting.
I keep seeing reels about. It's like a long life.
Yeah, I think that was one we considered for this podcast.
And then we were like, it's ugly.
(57:01):
Sorry, Yappers. Yeah, so we did consider it.
I don't, we didn't really like the animation style that much so
that we didn't, but it feels it feels like a similar thing to
Bojack Horseman if people ever watch that.
So I probably won't be watching that show either though.
(57:27):
But you're so excited for everything coming out.
What else is coming? Out.
OK, you're right, this is a lot of compounds my life with the
Walter boys that I will also notbe.
Watching Do You Even Like TV? Excuse me for having a life.
(57:48):
Oh, OK, You know what I've been actually doing in my time?
Pokémon Go. OK, that's that's your binge.
Yeah, there was a community day today and I'm getting our friend
Poonen, I'm getting her fiance Michael into it and I'm very
excited. Oh yeah, he told me.
Yeah, I told him all that. I was like, hey, in 2 minutes
(58:11):
the rickety community day will be starting.
Here's what you need to know. Yes, and then there's like a
mega Gyarados raid day tomorrow cited for that.
And when I'm not playing PokémonGo, I'm playing pickleball.
Hell yeah. Getting ready for Shalini's
(58:34):
birthday party, which is a pickle ball tournament.
Pickle best 4 point O. It's been 4 years.
No, but it's been 4 tournaments.Yeah.
Do you have that? I've been doing it twice a year.
Yeah. Yeah.
Thanks for yapping. Thanks for pickling with us.
Thanks for yapping with us. If you love this episode, have
(58:58):
some hot takes we missed, or if you've got a show you're dying
for us to binge next, follow us on socials we're at, Binge Yapp,
Repeat. Until next time, happy binging.
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