July 24, 2025 • 56 mins
In this week’s episode of Binge Yap Repeat, we dive into Untamed, Netflix’s newest procedural set in the wild heart of Yosemite. We yap about the plot holes, try to piece together Lucy Cook's life from end to end, and bust the formaldehyde facial recognition myth. Spoiler alert - we're not totally sure what happened in this show. Come be confused with us! And stay for the wild theories, attempts at explaining Yosemite's history, and the usual amount of laughter.
BYR average rating: 5/10
Number of episodes: 6 (~5h runtime)
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Hey yappers, today we chat all about Untamed, Netflix's latest
procedural set in stunning Yosemite.
We yap about the confusing plot lines and red herrings, try to
nail down exactly what happened in Lucy Cook's life from end to
end, and we bust the formaldehyde facial recognition
myth. Spoiler alert, we are still not
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totally sure what happened in this show, so come be confused
with us. Our episode starts now.
Hello fellow yappers, I'm Ruchi.And I'm Shalini and we're your
hosts. A binge, yap, repeat.
We're two best friends who spendan embarrassing amount of time
binge watching TV, and honestly,we just need to talk about it.
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If you're here, we're guessing you do too.
Fair warning. This is a spoiler friendly zone.
We will be discussing lots of spoilers, so if you haven't
watched the show yet, hit pause,go binge, and come back when
you're ready to yap with us. And now it's Yap time.
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Welcome to another episode of Binge Yap.
Repeat host gone wild. Or should I say untamed?
I was wondering where you were going with that.
I bring it back eventually. Today we'll be talking about
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Untamed. Untamed is an American drama
murder mystery television seriesfor Netflix set in Yosemite
National Park starring Eric Bana, Lily Santiago, Rosemarie
DeWitt, and Sam Neill. It was released on July 17th,
2025. The show starts with a body just
falling down El Capitan, which leads to a twisty, turny
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investigation led by Kyle Turner, a federal agent who
investigates the death of a LucyCook.
Shalini. And give me your untamed
thoughts. Yeah, I enjoyed it.
I think I generally like all of these shows that are like, Oh
no, someone died, How did they die?
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Oh, it's a small town with a small community.
Let's go around to all the suspects and see who did it and
then finding out A twist. So, you know, I liked it.
I would say as much as I always like those types of shows, I do
think I like Department Q betterthan this one.
So I guess if I were to make a comparison, yeah, I think that
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one had like a bit of a better twist.
And I don't know, it was like a bit more gripping, but I really
liked all the shots of Yosemite.You smart.
I kept thinking that the entire time.
Oh, OK, yeppers. So the reason why Shalini is
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saying yes, my is like way back when my friend Jing Jing is a
podcast host on this podcast. Anyway, so Jing and I went to
Australia and we were like waiting in line for some ferry.
And there were these two Australian women in front of us
in line. And they were like, and one of
them was like, Oh yeah. And then I went to OK, this is a
horrible Australian accent. She was like, Oh yeah, I went
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to, I went to Yo Smart in California.
Whatever. God, that's so bad anyway.
She kept a little. British.
But it is, isn't it? Anyway, she was she was saying
how she visited California and then she went to Yo's my, you
know, Yo's my. And then the other lady was
like, what are you talking about?
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yo-yo, what is Yo's my? And then she's like, you know,
Yo's my like the big park and Yo's my.
And then the other lady was like, what the hell?
And then finally they were she was like, oh, Yosemite went to
Yosemite. And then Jing and I behind them
were just dying of laughter because we're like, what?
And then the lady like the ladies noticed and they and like
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the person who kept saying yo, is Mike was like, oh, I don't
know, it's Yosemite that she sawus laughing.
And she was like, is it your is it Yosemite or Yosemite?
And we were like, it's Yosemite.And she was like, OK, OK, so
anyway. So now it's just yeah, it was
my. Yeah, it's my forever known as.
Yeah, it's my yeah. Thank you for sharing that
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story. Yeah, I so I did enjoy all the
shots of Yosemite, and I didn't see where the ending was going
at all. But I don't know if that's like,
a good thing or a bad thing. You know, it's like either I
can't decide if it was well doneor it was too random.
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Yeah, you. Know, or like they were just
trying to make it mysterious forthe sake of it being mysterious
or something. I don't know.
But yeah, I thought it was like,OK.
Yeah, I think that's exactly howI thought.
And I remember when we were talking about Department Q, how
I was like, oh, I don't normallylike these shows, but I really
like Department Q. I did not like this show.
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So I think when we were talking about department cure, like, or
do you really like these types of shows, but you only like
something else? I was like, no, I don't think I
like these types of shows. So I didn't like this one.
And I think for the same reasonsthat you didn't like the show.
So I agree. I think what I loved were all of
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the stunning shots of years my or Yosemite.
But what I didn't love is that the plot didn't really capture
me. It was really confusing.
And I think they're like, Oh my God, twists moments came very
soon after you got the clue about them.
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So one example was in episode 2,it was revealed that the sun
wasn't actually alive and he wasjust an apparition.
And then you like, basically gotthe final clue that you needed.
And then literally in the next scene, it was like, oh, yeah,
the sun's like the sun passed away like so many years ago or
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something in the park. And then you're like, OK, so
then why? Like if you were just going to
tell me, why was there so much mystery and lead up behind it?
And it felt like that happened so many times, like, Caleb not
actually being alive, how they hired McGuire to kill Sean
Sanderson. It was just like, they gave you
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90% of the mystery, and then in the next scene revealed 100%.
And then when they revealed it, you were just like, well, yeah,
you had given me all of these clues beforehand.
So like the fact that you like, are now revealing a few key
details is not really that important anymore.
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree withthat.
It wasn't like, that's why blah blah blah.
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It's like. Yeah.
We knew that, we just didn't have it spelled out for us, and
now you're just spelling it out for us.
Yeah, exactly. I just.
Like Caleb's death thing would have been so much more
interesting if it was revealed at the end that he was dead or
something. Yeah, I totally agree.
Because then you you're like, oh, the reason why Kyle and
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Vasquez are really vibing is because they both have young
sons and not because Kyle's son is actually dead.
And that's why I have a lot of questions about the plot itself.
Oh, I hope I can answer that. OK, So what I want to do is
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basically just put together the timeline of Lucy's life, just so
I understand, because I feel like this is the one thing where
they put together. Oh my God, don't look at me like
that. So the thing with Lucy is out of
all of the different twists and turns that they gave you 80% and
then just like gave you the restof the details in the next
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scene. The only thing that was not
explained fully was what happened to Lucy end to end,
which was like, you did that forliterally everything else and
why wouldn't you do it for Lucy?OK, so I'm just going to go
through and put together what I think happened to Lucy.
OK. And I will confirm if I agree or
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say oh. OK.
More of the latter, probably. OK, let's go.
OK, so starting with Lucy's birth, she is born to her mother
in. The park.
OK, so she she's she's born in the park, or like to that
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community in the park, right. OK, then she lives there until
she's seven. OK, wait, who was?
That guy when whenever she like turned around and was like.
Yeah, that was that. I also had a question like that
because we found out that like, OK, so we were led to believe
that she has some adult in her life who she actually knows and
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is familiar with. But in the flashback scene,
she's like in her room and the window opens and there's like a
man who's like this, presumably,And then she's like.
So. That so That's Captain Park
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Ranger. Yeah, Captain.
Daddy. Captain Daddy.
Captain Real Daddy, I guess. I guess he was like a presence
in her life always. And then right before her mom
died, her mom was like, actually, that's your real dad.
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OK, let's go with. That.
Let's go with that. OK, so assuming that her whole
family is in the park, includingRory and half brother, they're
all in the park. Mom dies, she lives with Rory.
She hates Rory, Rory knows that she's not his kid, she keeps
running away from Rory, eventually ends up going
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missing, Kyle Turner investigates, assumes that Rory
killed her, Rory leaves the parkbecause everyone assumes that
it's him, then gets beaten up and then dies outside of the
park. Got it.
In the meantime, though, She actually went to Captain Park
Ranger Daddy. And then he said, you should go
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live in Nevada with this foster family who the Gibbs, who I've
heard a lot about. And they're good people.
And she's like, I don't know about this.
And he's like, trust me, babe. And then she lives with them for
like years under the name Grace Mcclary or something, and then
is treated badly there, runs away from them, comes back to
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the park and then starts. Living with the commune.
Yeah, living with the commune and threatening and blackmailing
Captain Park Ranger. Daddy got it.
Yes. Oh, yeah.
OK. And then so the other question
is like, OK, she's living in thepark.
It's not like she has rent or anything.
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So like, what? What does she need so much money
for? Is she just basically trying to
teach him a lesson? And like, like, what is it?
Like, is she using drugs or? Yeah, I think the motivation
behind her blackmailing Captain Park Ranger Daddy was lost on
me. I thought what they showed was
that she's gotten in with this like drug hustling group with
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the gold X tattoo and stuff. And so maybe she like let it
slip that her real dad is or like her dad is the park Ranger
or something. And then all the people were
like, hey, you need to like he, he's rich, probably go get money
from him. Or maybe she just knew that he
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had some money and like she wanted money to buy drugs or
something. And basically, I feel like
anytime they show someone in theworld of drugs, they're always
trying to hustle the people in their lives for money, you know?
And so I think it was maybe justthat we're like, she was like,
oh, this is an access point to money.
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Let me exploit this. Oh, OK.
And then that's where she meets Shane McGuire and like, falls in
love with him. Is that gunman?
Yes. OK, OK, this is my question.
What did he have to do with anything?
OK. Yeah, that's also.
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I'm like, oh, he went from beingan unimportant person to an
important person and then an unimportant person again.
OK, so he's important because hewas keeping secrets for Kyle
Turner and his wife Jill. So he was the one who ended up
killing Sean Sanderson. And that's why Kyle felt like
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they have, they have like a weird relationship where it's
like they're like pointing like Spider man meme, right?
They're like, if you shoot, I shoot kind of thing.
And then secondly, he is generally kind of like a bad
seed, it sounds like. And it also was revealed that he
was also part of the whole drug ring and that he was letting
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people in and out of the park tosell drugs.
OK. And then they also revealed that
he and Lucy were in a relationship.
Kind of. Yeah.
He is tersees secret spelled backwards.
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
That was the other thing. They were like, Oh yeah, she
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called him tersees. And I was like, secret spelled
backward. And then the next line was it's
just secret spelled backwards. I was like.
To be fair, I don't think I would have put it together that
that was secret spelled backwards.
I don't even know how you thought of that.
Just like I was like, that's like, I think whenever I see
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like weird words, I'm like, whatis it backwards?
The Mirror of Eris said. Also, fuck JK Rowling.
Fuck JK. Rowling.
Yeah, exactly. So yeah.
Yeah, OK. But yeah, that was just another
thing that was like, oh, a mystery.
Oh, let me quash. OK cool, glad we sorted that
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out. Yes, OK.
And I guess Oh yeah, the other thing that I wrote down is that
there's no actual resolution on why Shane was doing the drug
stuff. Like yeah, I got assuming he's
just a CD character but like nothing about him or his back
story so who knows, yeah. I think just like, oh look, an
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easy way to make money. Yeah, I guess.
Weird. Yeah.
The other question that I had islike when there's this big
reveal about how Captain Park Ranger is actually Daddy.
He was like, oh, Lucy ended up kidnapping Sadie.
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I didn't know who Sadie was. I forgot.
I don't know if that was mentioned.
Oh, Sadie, I think is his granddaughter, you know, the one
with the black curly hair. Oh, OK.
Yeah. And then what was the connection
with Kate? Because at the whole beginning
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of that conversation, he was like, oh, when I got the
pictures of the family, Kate wasremoved or something.
And he was like, oh Kate, like trouble just sticks stir like
white on rice or something. Yeah, it was it was not the
pictures, it was the DNA. So they were like DNA testing
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and probably using using DNA of people that live in the park to
like clear their DNA from something or something.
But then he didn't submit his daughter's DNA as part of that,
which it would have become a match because Kate and Lucy are
half sisters. But he didn't submit it.
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And then I think he said that because as a response to the
fact that her DNA was already inthe system, because she's been
like arrested multiple times fordrugs, because it was already
previously established that she is an addict and had a relapse
recently. So I think he was saying.
So it was. It was like Agent Turner being
like, bro, I know what's going on.
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Because even though you didn't submit Kate's DNA, her DNA
already existed. And guess what?
It's a match with Lucy. Oh, man.
Her DNA exists in the system because she's a delinquent.
Yeah, Daddy. Oh, OK, that makes a lot worse
sense now. I like this.
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That that really crystallized itup here.
I'm glad. Yeah.
That was good. That was good.
The other things that I had issues with, The penultimate
episode felt like the end of theseason kind of where it was like
this big chase scene and then itends with him being shot or
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sorry, I guess this is more intothe first half of this last
episode. Then there's like this huge
thing where he's like running through the park, like running
away from Shane, and then he gets caught by Shane.
And then Vasquez comes with the last second and then there's
still 20 minutes left in the episode and no answers.
So I kind of just kept going after that even though I felt
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like the big chase scene was theend of it.
And then it turned out that it wasn't like, cuz like you said,
Shane was not even a part of herstory all that much.
He was just some guy. Yeah, I know.
I thought it was just like a massive red herring.
I mean, I won't hold it against the show that they had like a
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really exciting part happened before a calmer part where you
get all the answers, because I feel like shows do that a lot.
But yeah, it was. I just don't think that entire
Shane thing was necessary at all.
But I guess that's it's just a red herring.
I don't know. I think like the massive action
part normally happens with the person who actually committed
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the crime, right? Like even in Department Q, it
was like a massive action scene where they're like trying super
hard to get her out of the hyperbaric chamber and they're
like, Oh my God, are they going to make it?
But at that point you kind of, you already know like who are
the perpetrators? And then they end up like going
after the perpetrators and then you get your answers because the
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person that they're going after is the one who did it.
But in this case, the chase scene was was with Shane.
Unrelated. Yeah.
Yeah. And like, yeah.
He didn't even kill her. OK, question.
When the chasing was happening, did you think he had anything to
do with her death? Yeah, because that was the point
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where we had found out that he was in her.
Video OK, so in that case I think it was fine because it was
clearly an intentional red herring.
And then they're like, oh wait, you were just in love with her,
but I have nothing to do with her death.
Interesting. Then what could it be?
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Wait, so. You think it's?
Fine that they did it that way. I think it's fine that they did
it that way. I think like, I don't know why
he got so violent though, because he thought they were
going to frame him. Question why, why Shane got
violent or why Kyle? Why Shane got violent with Kyle?
Why was he like hunting him down?
I don't know why Kyle was hunting Shane down.
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I think. I think it was just like.
I thought it was the other way around.
Or Kyle went to Shane's camp andthen was like looking for
something, unclear what, and then found the drugs and then
was like Shane does know something and then he gets shot
by Shane. Yeah.
OK. So I think so.
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Kyle was obviously trying to figure out what happened to
Lucy. Then he finds drugs and he's
like, oh, this is clearly a connection to Lucy.
Interesting. I should investigate this
further. Oh no, I got shot.
And then Shane's like, Oh no, he's found the drugs.
He probably thinks I killed Lucy.
I need to kill him before he gets any further down this
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rabbit hole because I don't wantto get framed for this bitch's
death. But why would he do that?
Because then like, Shane would be like, you can't believe
anything he says. And here's why he paid me to
kill Sean Sanderson. Like they have leverage over
each other. That is true.
That's a good point. I don't know if he was thinking
like that. Yeah, I guess, like, there was
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just a lot of, like, questionable character
motivation. Like, why did you do that?
Like, I understand that you could, and it was an exciting
chase scene, but then it was just like, but you didn't even
kill her. Yeah.
I know it's like bro what are you even defending yourself
against right now? Looking awfully suspicious.
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Shame for no. Reason the lady doth protest
too. Much.
Oh yeah. And then Speaking of unnecessary
deaths, just like Captain Daddy just shooting himself at the
end. I was like.
I also could barely even tell that he was the one that shot
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himself because like you barely even see his arm go up as he
shoots himself. Like it's that's definitely what
happened. But I was kind of like, are they
going to show like Vasquez somewhere having shot him or
something? He's just like.
Kyle, I made a mistake. Kyle, I was.
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Like. Whoa, I thought he was like at
this. Oh that makes sense because I
like didn't even see the art. I was like what?
It all happened too fast. They should have shown him like
dramatically like Kyle and then.Shot himself.
Yeah, I like that better. Instead of being like, and then
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Kyle's like, he doesn't even like, look around.
Yeah. And then I was like.
Bro. Like, I don't even.
I don't even know this guy. Like, we didn't.
I feel like we didn't really have a lot of empathy for him.
He barely showed up during the episode.
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You mean park Ranger Daddy? Yeah.
Park Ranger. Daddy.
Yeah. OK I so I both think this show
should have been longer and alsoshorter.
Like if it was longer, they could have established him more
as like Turners mentor and like Turner owes him a lot because
they kind of tried to do that where they were like, oh, like
Turner would be out of a job if it wasn't for park Ranger daddy
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like saving his ass, blah blah blah.
And so I think they were supposed to show that like he
was very indebted to him and stuff And they're basically like
family. Like he and his ex-wife are
invited to their anniversary party.
His godson was Caleb and stuff. And so they're supposed to show
that, like, their lives are veryintertwined, but I just don't
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think we got enough of that during the show to, like, feel a
lot for this man. Yeah, yeah, I think they could
have done away with some characters.
So I think Shane to a point was a little unnecessary.
I think also the the native parkRanger guy, he didn't really
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play that much of A role. I thought, yeah, I thought he
was going to be. For some reason, I thought he
was the guy that baby Lucy was waving to because he was like,
Oh yeah, I was close with her. Maybe that's what we were
supposed to think. Maybe he's also a red herring.
Maybe. Oh, yeah, I was close with
Maggie. Yeah, not that close.
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
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See that's what I'm saying. Like what?
Just like goes up and then gets quashed.
It's like, oh, OK, great. Yeah, yeah, I just like the
pacing of this show was. It was weird.
It was weird and there was a lotof just unnecessary things and
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we never even got an under an understanding on what those
symbols were either. Right.
No, I think. Do you think she learned them
from Indigenous park Ranger man or something and then drew them
both in the house and also in the Nevada house?
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As probably. Reminder of home kind of thing.
I think so so strange but but Speaking of natives, I did do a
little bit of research on the native tribe in Yosemite Valley.
So they are called the Me Walks,MIW OK.
And I couldn't find too much on Elowin.
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So that in the show it's supposed to be this afterlife
for the me Walk or for the native tribe, which is not
actually mentioned by name. So anyway, but it's called the
afterlife. But I actually couldn't find too
much on what Eloin actually was via Googling.
There's just a camp Eloin, whichI don't, I don't Yeah, that's
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all I could find via Googling. So yeah, Bruce, if you know, let
us know. And another fun fact about the
Miwok is that the Star Wars films that feature the forest
dwelling creatures are called Ewoks, which may or may not have
been named after the Me Walks. There's no confirmation or
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denial. Those are the two options.
They either are or they're not. I think it's like it's a.
Baby, and that's on very useful information that we provide to
you. Yeah, for.
This may or may not be true. You're welcome.
They call me fake news, Richie. Or do they?
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They Call Me Maybe sometimes truthful, but maybe sometimes
not. One of us tells the truth.
One of us lies. Oh, they're both me.
Oh. Feels like north of north again.
Our heart is in the right place,OK?
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We. Tried.
Indigenous stories should be told.
We just can't tell them. We wouldn't be having this
problem if Indigenous stories were told more.
Exactly. Educate us, please.
We're. Begging you.
Please tell us. We're so sorry.
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Oh my God, oh so sorry. Oh gosh.
OK, I had a fun fact. Well, it's not that fun,
honestly. Is it a truth or is it a lie?
It's a truth, but like you probably already guessed, that
is it. A me what?
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Isn't that the Miwok we're basedon?
Played the other way around. No is that I looked up whether
there actually are underground mines in Yosemite and there are.
There are a lot of there. There may or may.
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Not be under underground mines at Yosemite.
Great. No, there are.
There definitively are there areremnants of underground mines
within the park. While mining is no longer active
within the park's current boundaries, historical mining
operations left behind shafts, tunnels, and mine structures.
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I think they were mining gold, which makes sense because
California and B, the XS in the OR the tattoo had gold in it.
OK, Oh, this is another question.
Why not just sell the gold? Maybe, well, maybe per oz the.
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Drugs are more. Drugs are more lucrative, I
don't know. Or maybe there's just more
drugs. Like, you can make drugs, but
you can't really make gold, you know?
But they're tattooing every single person, and they're
tattooing the bottles with gold,yeah.
But that's like that much gold. OK, fair enough.
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But you know what? Good point.
Just pan for gold. Good point.
Maybe not. The California Gold Rush of 1749
fake. News Ruchiata again.
Or is it 1850? Yeah, actually.
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Oh, OK. Yeah, I thought it was 1848.
Oh, I thought it was 1849. I think 1848 is when it was
discovered. And I know this because in 4th
grade in California, we learned about the we we did California
history in 4th grade and our class did a musical called Gold
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Dust or Bust. And then the first song in that
musical goes blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and 1848.
And so that's how I know. And then I think it ended in
1865, because I think that's happens at the end of the
musical. Oh OK, so I thought it was 1849
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because of the 49ers. I think you're.
Right, my God showing me. It's gold.
No, I'm right. I'm right.
OK. Gold was discovered January
24th, 1848. OK.
And then maybe 1849 is like whenthe gold rush happened, maybe
something like that because we're a traveled slow back then.
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So it took a full year to establish the rush.
Oh wait, no. The California Gold Rush
officially began January 24th, 1848.
OK, now we. Can do as Richie strikes again.
Yeah. Why is it called the 49ers then?
The gold prospectors who flockedto California in 1849 during the
Gold rush. They're based on people who were
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a year late to the Gold Rush. That's crazy.
That's like calling. That's like calling if there was
a sports team called the Moonwalkers or something and
then like nicknaming them the 70s like.
Yeah. Crazy.
OK, well anyway, what? This is crazy.
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It's like every every source I go to is that it's just the
people who flocked in 1849 that's crazy.
It was also discovered in January 1848, so they had an
entire year to get there. They had to start flocking a
year to go viral. It took a year to go viral.
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Wow. Wow.
Oh, you know, I, I, I don't knowif we talked about this yet, but
another thing that I found like really out there was how the
bracelet, like her bracelet fellfrom the top of El Capitan and
he found it. And it didn't like break and
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fall apart. Yeah, he like found it in a tree
or I think it did break, but andthen he found the beads too, and
then it wasn't even important. Well, I guess it was it a little
bit important in that they foundwho she was because of the
bracelet. They discovered she was Lucy
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because Lucy showed up in those camp photos and they knew what
camp photos to look at because he found the bracelet.
Were they camp photos? Remember, it's like the first
assignment. Did we watch?
This show I feel like. You and I watched completely
different parts of the show. Mutually exclusive.
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Everyone watching this episode once again, we already said this
during Department Q Everyone watching this episode is going
to be like these bitches don't even know anything.
Like I didn't even have questions about this show.
What am I doing here? OK.
I can host this podcast. Please, please tell us we don't.
(34:04):
Want to do anything? OK, so he finds the bracelet.
He sees his ex-wife has rearranged into take a hike or
whatever. And then he's like, I know where
this bracelet is from. And then his first assignment
for Vasquez is looking through all of the camp photos from all
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of the years that that camp existed to try to find this
girl's face. Wow, did I miss this episode or
like what? That's how she's like.
I found a match, run the facial recognition.
Her name's Lucy. Oh, yeah.
OK. And then the the bracelet that
they found was like on her as a young girl.
I think they just, I don't know if the photo had her with the
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bracelet, but it was like in therepository of camp photos of the
camp that made those bracelets. I see, OK that thank you for
actually watching this show. Well I didn't know who Shane was
so I don't like have paid attention to the show.
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I think you got the first half, I got the second-half.
Nice, nice, great. OK, what else did I want to talk
about? Oh, yeah.
OK, I think just that initial scene of El Capitan.
I put I put this on our Instagram.
That made my palm sweats. Oh much?
(35:33):
Oh, anytime anyone was on top ofit.
Just like opening scene where there's like climbers going up.
I was like, Oh my God, just thinking about it now I'm
sweaty. Yeah, yeah.
It was so scary. I can't believe people do that.
Yeah, lead climbing. It's terrifying.
Looks so scary. Also.
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I'm pretty sure people call it El Cap.
Let me confirm that. Like, do people call?
Yeah, yes. Many people, especially those
familiar with the Yosemite National Park and the climbing
community, refer to El Capitan as El Cap.
So I. Don't think, I think everyone,
all the Park Rangers would probably be calling it El Cap,
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but they were always like El Capitan, like they had never
said the word before, didn't it feel like?
That it did. It did.
El Capitan Park Ranger Daddy. Yes, exactly.
It was always him. Oh, OK.
Yeah. Wow.
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What was I going to say something about El Cap?
Oh yeah. Have you ever been to Yosemite?
You have right? I have nice, I have never.
Actually been to Yosemite before.
I haven't been in a long, long time.
Probably since then. Yeah.
Oh, wow. Yeah, 25 some years.
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I think I do want to go though because the views did look
stunning. Yeah, actually this is a
question I was going to ask you.Did this show make you more want
to go to Yosemite or did it makeyou not want to go to Yosemite?
It made me want to go to Yosemite.
It felt very similar to Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, where,
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like the content of the show aside, the views in the
background were stunning. Like Utah, like Salt Lake City
is beautiful. Mm Hmm.
Gorgeous mountains. Yeah, yeah.
Did. Did you not feel that way?
No, I did. I think, I think it, it made me
want to go to the park, But thenI was also like, oh, there's
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such an A dark underbelly to this park.
Like damn. But it's not like real, Yeah,
they don't actually have drug rings there, right?
I mean, do they? Maybe, maybe not.
We don't know. I was also actually looking up
if there were actually people like encampments living in
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Yosemite. I also looked that up.
OK, what did you find? I couldn't.
Find anything? I mean, maybe it was the way
that I searched, but a lot of people were like, yeah, of
course people live in Yosemite, like all of the Park Rangers and
their families or something likethat.
And I was like, well, that's notreally what I was asking.
Yeah, I kind of had the same thing.
I I, I looked up, are there communes in Yosemite?
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And then the results were like, while there aren't traditional
communes, there are a lot of community like towns in Yosemite
where people live and like a lotof residences that have a very
community feel. I was like, I feel like that's
different. Because it's not.
That there were shops and restaurants.
That's different. Yeah.
(38:50):
So I don't think they're like these random communes in the
park. Yeah, at.
Least there's no evidence of that.
I want to see if like people named Glory like actually exist
and live in the park. Yes, yes, same.
Yappers, let us know. If you're one of them, let us
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know. Oh, you know that shot of a deer
getting shot? Do you remember that?
I think so. It was like such a CGI dear.
Oh yes, I did. So I was.
Like, oh, it's low budget, got it.
(39:32):
I actually was like, wow, CGI has come a long way.
Same dear. Two different responses.
That's. Funny.
Oh, another note I had. So after Gail's dad comes to
(39:52):
take him from Miss Jill, AKA Turner's ex-wife, and like she
defends, she like defends against him and he basically
like strangles her and breaks her, breaks a window against her
head, blah blah blah. And then afterwards everyone's
just like, yeah, you did the right thing.
But no one's like, I'm so sorry that this happened to you and we
(40:15):
didn't warn you that this would happen.
Yeah, yeah. Like even Vasquez is just like,
thanks, Thank you. And like, walks away.
She's not like, I'm so sorry. Yeah, also, like, what was the
point of him? Another character that honestly
could have just gone away. I don't know.
(40:36):
I think I I was more OK with that because it gave Vasquez a
good back story. About like this is the reason I
left. Yeah, yeah.
And like, This is why I'm new totown.
Yeah. So I was OK with that.
But yeah, I was like, no one apologized to Miss Jill.
(40:56):
Poor Miss Jill. Miss.
Jill be out here killing people though, or paying people to get
killed. True, true.
OK, question. Do you think what she did was
fair? To who?
To Sean Sanderson, Like, do you think that's an appropriate
(41:16):
response to someone who presumably sexually assaulted
your 6 year old boy and killed him?
I can see where she's coming from, but at the same time, I
don't know why she felt that way, that like she had to take
matters into her own hands because she very obviously had
video footage of Sean Sanderson doing this to her son.
(41:40):
So I feel like Sean Sanderson would have gone to prison.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
She was just kind of like, I couldn't stand the thought of
sitting there watching him in a trial try to defend himself or
something. Yeah, and I'm like you got, but
you got video evidence, so. Yeah.
Like the trial is not going to go anywhere, so you're fine.
(42:01):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I wasn't really like super
convinced why she was like, I guess like, I understand why she
felt so much rage and she probably like saw the full video
about what he actually did to him, but I can't imagine that
she would want to pay someone tolike kill him.
(42:24):
I guess. I don't know.
I don't know. I just felt like she just seems
like a sweet lady, and maybe if there were more aggressive
tendencies that we never really saw, then it would kind of make
more sense. But I don't know.
Yeah. I think I'm with you.
I think I forgot that or like, yeah, I didn't think about the
(42:47):
fact that if they did go to trial, it would definitely come
out in her favor. So why did she feel the need to
take matters into her own hands?So yeah, I think if I was her,
I'll probably just let it go to trial.
I don't know, honestly. I can't predict how I would feel
in that situation. Yeah.
But. I don't know.
(43:08):
I don't even know if paying someone to kill him for me would
even be cathartic like I wanted to be.
Exactly. I think if I felt so much rage
that I couldn't wait for the criminal justice system to take
place, then I would just go witha shotgun and kill him myself.
If I felt so like so much rage. Yeah, yeah.
(43:29):
OK Oh my last point is that formaldehyde heat camera thing
was such bullshit. Was such bullshit.
AI don't formaldehyde heats up abody.
Doesn't it? Isn't it to be a preserver?
(43:51):
Yes. I also had that question too.
No, exposure to formaldehyde doesn't directly cause a rise in
body temperature. It primarily affects the body by
irritating mucous membranes and disrupting cellular function.
So only in alive bodies will it induce any sort of reaction.
(44:12):
OK, that's AB. Facial recognition cameras do
not need heat to work. They have an IR light that sends
IR infrared dots to your face, creates a 3D image of your face,
and then an IR camera to look atthat 3D image.
So it has nothing to do with theresting temperature of your
(44:36):
face. Thank you for that explanation
because I also was like why didn't it just work the first
time? Like it sounds like having OK
Also then using what you just said about the face biometrics
then does it still make sense that he put drops in the eyes to
make it work to like make the eyes glassy?
(44:56):
I don't know. I guess I don't really know,
like what dead eyeballs are like.
So maybe it had to be, it neededthe drops to make it like the
same topography as like an aliveeyeball.
But I think it's just about the topography and nothing about the
like characteristics. Yeah.
OK I'm going to look this up. Would biometric face sensor work
(45:20):
on dead body? Yes, a biometric face sensor
could unlock a phone using a diseased person's face.
OK, there you have it. Sorry.
Why was that necessary? It was so fake and so
unnecessary and wrong. They could have cut.
Yeah, so wrong. They could have cut 10 minutes
of the show right there. Yeah.
(45:40):
That's that's funny. Big formaldehyde doesn't want
you to know. That formaldehyde does not cause
a rise in dead body temperature.Let me see.
OK so I think there are some things around, like a dead hand
could maybe not surpass touch IDbut.
(46:07):
Yeah, we see that on TV shows all the time.
True, but that's it's a. That's because Apple developed
biometric uses. Wait, oh.
The Apple developed biometric uses radio frequency waves to
check the skin underneath a finger's outer layer, a trick
(46:27):
that supposedly prevents a dead one from being used.
It also relies on a capacitive sensor which is activated by
electrical charge and living. Skin.
Oh, that's true, I did know that.
OK, so you can't do it for the touch ID, but you probably could
do it for a face unlock. So TV shows are wrong and wrong.
(46:50):
Dang, you heard it here. Yappers.
You know, yappers, we may not know anything about indigenous
folks, but we know science, but not Star Wars Chambers.
That's. Yeah, exactly.
I learned a lot from that. Great.
OK. And then I guess like one last
thing about Jill is so she is Rosemarie DeWitt and she is in
(47:13):
United States of Tara and Mad Men.
Oh yeah, I recognize her from United States of Tara.
I loved that show. United States of Tara, like
really freaked me out to be honest, 'cause I think that I
forget the actress's name, but she's a really good horror
actress. Yeah, Toni, Toni Collette.
(47:37):
Yeah, she's a very good horror actress.
She's. So good.
She was also in the. Staircase.
She was also in. She's been in a lot of stuff.
She was in the staircase. She was in the way, way back.
(47:57):
Oh, she has a Golden Globe. She was in hereditary.
Hereditary. The Sixth Sense.
Oh, OK, yeah, hereditary. That was the one that also
really stuck in my head. Oh, and she's in About a Boy and
Little Miss Sunshine. She's in Everything OK Other
actors, Captain, Park Ranger, Daddy was, I think, like the
(48:20):
main character in Jurassic Park.Huh.
Or he was someone big in Jurassic Park.
He's going to Google. Captain, Park Ranger and.
Tamed Park Ranger captain. What is his actual name?
Sam Neil. Sam Neil.
(48:41):
Yeah, he's the main guy. OK.
Yeah, OK, OK. Yeah.
Cool. Alan Grant, the Doctor.
Sorry, Doctor. Alan Grant.
Yeah, put some respect on his name.
We should also then give him respect because his name is
actually Sir Nigel John Dermott Sam Neil.
(49:07):
He's knighted. He's knighted, yeah.
Oh, he's also in Apples Never Fall.
Did you watch that? Oh, no.
Is that something? Moriarty, Yeah.
Leanne Moriarty. Leanne Moriarty.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
They just made a show about it last year.
Yeah, I guess he was the dad in that.
(49:28):
Oh, I totally forgot. Oh nice, I think that was the I
didn't watch the show but I readthe book.
Oh, the book was so good. Doesn't help but spread this
particular case. But fun fact.
Oh, and then Eric Bana, who plays Agent Turner, the main
(49:50):
character, was the original Hulk.
Oh, that's why, OK. Angie recognized Eric Bana and
was like that guy, that guy. And I was like, I've never like,
I don't know. And then he was like, oh, it's
Eric Bana. And I'm like, could be anyone,
(50:12):
yes. He was also in Troy.
I don't know if he's the main character.
He is the main lead in The Time Traveller's Wife.
He's apparently in the other Bowling Girl.
Great hope he succeeded. He's in Finding Nemo.
Who is he? Finding Nemo?
Oh my God, do you want to guess who he was in Finding Nemo?
OK, crush. OK, wait, wait, wait, wait.
(50:36):
Sorry, I need to find who he wasactually.
So not crush the. Turtle is not crush.
No, he's not crush. Is he Scar the guy?
The fish tank guy? No, wait, no, that's not Gill.
Gill, he's not. He is not American.
(50:58):
The Seagull. No, but getting closer.
The. Dentist accent wise, getting
closer accent wise no. Who is possibly left?
He's Bruce's friend, the Hammerhead.
Shark. Named Anchor.
Oh my. God, he might be the one that's
(51:19):
like, oh, look at me, I'm flippy.
I'm a flippy little dolphin. That might have been him, or
that might have been the other shark.
I'm not sure. Amazing impression that really
took me back. Oh this episode is so useless.
So stupid, So stupid. So anyway, should we meet
(51:40):
ratings? I I'll give it like a six out of
10. Yeah, I think it was still net
enjoyable. I don't think it was an entire
waste of time. But it was like, the story
wasn't that good. The twist wasn't that good.
(52:01):
The shots are visually stunning.That's about it, yeah.
I think I'll give it a three. I thought it I thought it was a
waste of time. OK.
Fair. I think, OK, to be fair, I think
maybe I'll give it a four. I'll give it a four because I
(52:23):
think I was just really tired this weekend.
And then when I watched the lastepisode yesterday, I was like, I
spent so much of my time for that.
I was actually angry and so that's why I don't like it.
And I will say I will give it a four because their shots of
(52:43):
Yosemite were stunning. Yeah, yeah.
I don't even know what would be a one or a 2D NFI guess.
Binge in progress. Yeah.
What you binge in? I started the.
The hunting wives today. I just started that one too.
(53:05):
I can't wait to talk about there's.
Also, there's also a Miss Jill in that one.
Oh yes, yeah, I yeah, I cannot wait to talk about.
Same. That series.
Yep, I just finished We were Liars last night.
Oh my God I wish we did that show for this podcast.
(53:28):
It was so good. I think you should watch it.
OK. It was so good.
Yeah, I won't give spoilers, butI did not see the twist coming
at all. What is the premise of the show?
The premise is that So it's set on this private island off the
(53:51):
coast of Martha's Vineyard. And on this private island,
there are four houses, all ownedby the same family.
And there's like a patriarch grandpa.
He has three daughters and then they each have one child.
And so those cousins, it's more it's about those cousins and one
(54:11):
of the girls. So like, they always spend their
summers on this island. And then when they're 16, she
only remembers half a summer andthen wakes up at the end of the
summer from a coma and like doesn't remember what happened
and no one will tell her. And so the next summer she goes
back to that island and is like asking everyone to help her
piece together what happened andlike, no one really wants to
(54:33):
tell her what happened. Wow, yes, it's.
So good. OK, apparently the.
Book was really bad, Jing Chen told me.
But the show I thought was very good.
OK, I'm kind of burnt from watching too many terrible shows
that I didn't really like, so I might try and watch this one.
(55:00):
Yes, do it. Do it at first.
OK, I will say at first, for thefirst few episodes, I was like,
oh, this is like so infuriating.Like is this show just bad,
blah, blah, blah. And then it's like, no, there's
an explanation for everything. OK, Yeah.
High praise. Great.
Yeah. All right.
(55:20):
Thanks for listening to us yappers.
I'm. Sorry and also we deeply
apologize. Thanks for yapping with us.
If you love this episode, have some hot takes we missed, or if
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Until next time, happy bingeing.
Hey yappers, today we chat all about Untamed, Netflix's latest
procedural set in stunning Yosemite.
We yap about the confusing plot lines and red herrings, try to
nail down exactly what happened in Lucy Cook's life from end to
end, and we bust the formaldehyde facial recognition
myth. Spoiler alert, we are still not
(00:21):
totally sure what happened in this show, so come be confused
with us. Our episode starts now.
Hello fellow yappers, I'm Ruchi.And I'm Shalini and we're your
hosts. A binge, yap, repeat.
We're two best friends who spendan embarrassing amount of time
binge watching TV, and honestly,we just need to talk about it.
(00:41):
If you're here, we're guessing you do too.
Fair warning. This is a spoiler friendly zone.
We will be discussing lots of spoilers, so if you haven't
watched the show yet, hit pause,go binge, and come back when
you're ready to yap with us. And now it's Yap time.
(01:14):
Welcome to another episode of Binge Yap.
Repeat host gone wild. Or should I say untamed?
I was wondering where you were going with that.
I bring it back eventually. Today we'll be talking about
(01:35):
Untamed. Untamed is an American drama
murder mystery television seriesfor Netflix set in Yosemite
National Park starring Eric Bana, Lily Santiago, Rosemarie
DeWitt, and Sam Neill. It was released on July 17th,
2025. The show starts with a body just
falling down El Capitan, which leads to a twisty, turny
(01:58):
investigation led by Kyle Turner, a federal agent who
investigates the death of a LucyCook.
Shalini. And give me your untamed
thoughts. Yeah, I enjoyed it.
I think I generally like all of these shows that are like, Oh
no, someone died, How did they die?
(02:21):
Oh, it's a small town with a small community.
Let's go around to all the suspects and see who did it and
then finding out A twist. So, you know, I liked it.
I would say as much as I always like those types of shows, I do
think I like Department Q betterthan this one.
So I guess if I were to make a comparison, yeah, I think that
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one had like a bit of a better twist.
And I don't know, it was like a bit more gripping, but I really
liked all the shots of Yosemite.You smart.
I kept thinking that the entire time.
Oh, OK, yeppers. So the reason why Shalini is
(03:04):
saying yes, my is like way back when my friend Jing Jing is a
podcast host on this podcast. Anyway, so Jing and I went to
Australia and we were like waiting in line for some ferry.
And there were these two Australian women in front of us
in line. And they were like, and one of
them was like, Oh yeah. And then I went to OK, this is a
horrible Australian accent. She was like, Oh yeah, I went
(03:28):
to, I went to Yo Smart in California.
Whatever. God, that's so bad anyway.
She kept a little. British.
But it is, isn't it? Anyway, she was she was saying
how she visited California and then she went to Yo's my, you
know, Yo's my. And then the other lady was
like, what are you talking about?
(03:49):
yo-yo, what is Yo's my? And then she's like, you know,
Yo's my like the big park and Yo's my.
And then the other lady was like, what the hell?
And then finally they were she was like, oh, Yosemite went to
Yosemite. And then Jing and I behind them
were just dying of laughter because we're like, what?
And then the lady like the ladies noticed and they and like
(04:11):
the person who kept saying yo, is Mike was like, oh, I don't
know, it's Yosemite that she sawus laughing.
And she was like, is it your is it Yosemite or Yosemite?
And we were like, it's Yosemite.And she was like, OK, OK, so
anyway. So now it's just yeah, it was
my. Yeah, it's my forever known as.
Yeah, it's my yeah. Thank you for sharing that
(04:35):
story. Yeah, I so I did enjoy all the
shots of Yosemite, and I didn't see where the ending was going
at all. But I don't know if that's like,
a good thing or a bad thing. You know, it's like either I
can't decide if it was well doneor it was too random.
(04:57):
Yeah, you. Know, or like they were just
trying to make it mysterious forthe sake of it being mysterious
or something. I don't know.
But yeah, I thought it was like,OK.
Yeah, I think that's exactly howI thought.
And I remember when we were talking about Department Q, how
I was like, oh, I don't normallylike these shows, but I really
like Department Q. I did not like this show.
(05:19):
So I think when we were talking about department cure, like, or
do you really like these types of shows, but you only like
something else? I was like, no, I don't think I
like these types of shows. So I didn't like this one.
And I think for the same reasonsthat you didn't like the show.
So I agree. I think what I loved were all of
(05:42):
the stunning shots of years my or Yosemite.
But what I didn't love is that the plot didn't really capture
me. It was really confusing.
And I think they're like, Oh my God, twists moments came very
soon after you got the clue about them.
(06:04):
So one example was in episode 2,it was revealed that the sun
wasn't actually alive and he wasjust an apparition.
And then you like, basically gotthe final clue that you needed.
And then literally in the next scene, it was like, oh, yeah,
the sun's like the sun passed away like so many years ago or
(06:27):
something in the park. And then you're like, OK, so
then why? Like if you were just going to
tell me, why was there so much mystery and lead up behind it?
And it felt like that happened so many times, like, Caleb not
actually being alive, how they hired McGuire to kill Sean
Sanderson. It was just like, they gave you
(06:51):
90% of the mystery, and then in the next scene revealed 100%.
And then when they revealed it, you were just like, well, yeah,
you had given me all of these clues beforehand.
So like the fact that you like, are now revealing a few key
details is not really that important anymore.
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree withthat.
It wasn't like, that's why blah blah blah.
(07:15):
It's like. Yeah.
We knew that, we just didn't have it spelled out for us, and
now you're just spelling it out for us.
Yeah, exactly. I just.
Like Caleb's death thing would have been so much more
interesting if it was revealed at the end that he was dead or
something. Yeah, I totally agree.
Because then you you're like, oh, the reason why Kyle and
(07:37):
Vasquez are really vibing is because they both have young
sons and not because Kyle's son is actually dead.
And that's why I have a lot of questions about the plot itself.
Oh, I hope I can answer that. OK, So what I want to do is
(07:59):
basically just put together the timeline of Lucy's life, just so
I understand, because I feel like this is the one thing where
they put together. Oh my God, don't look at me like
that. So the thing with Lucy is out of
all of the different twists and turns that they gave you 80% and
then just like gave you the restof the details in the next
(08:22):
scene. The only thing that was not
explained fully was what happened to Lucy end to end,
which was like, you did that forliterally everything else and
why wouldn't you do it for Lucy?OK, so I'm just going to go
through and put together what I think happened to Lucy.
OK. And I will confirm if I agree or
(08:45):
say oh. OK.
More of the latter, probably. OK, let's go.
OK, so starting with Lucy's birth, she is born to her mother
in. The park.
OK, so she she's she's born in the park, or like to that
(09:08):
community in the park, right. OK, then she lives there until
she's seven. OK, wait, who was?
That guy when whenever she like turned around and was like.
Yeah, that was that. I also had a question like that
because we found out that like, OK, so we were led to believe
that she has some adult in her life who she actually knows and
(09:32):
is familiar with. But in the flashback scene,
she's like in her room and the window opens and there's like a
man who's like this, presumably,And then she's like.
So. That so That's Captain Park
(09:54):
Ranger. Yeah, Captain.
Daddy. Captain Daddy.
Captain Real Daddy, I guess. I guess he was like a presence
in her life always. And then right before her mom
died, her mom was like, actually, that's your real dad.
(10:19):
OK, let's go with. That.
Let's go with that. OK, so assuming that her whole
family is in the park, includingRory and half brother, they're
all in the park. Mom dies, she lives with Rory.
She hates Rory, Rory knows that she's not his kid, she keeps
running away from Rory, eventually ends up going
(10:41):
missing, Kyle Turner investigates, assumes that Rory
killed her, Rory leaves the parkbecause everyone assumes that
it's him, then gets beaten up and then dies outside of the
park. Got it.
In the meantime, though, She actually went to Captain Park
Ranger Daddy. And then he said, you should go
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live in Nevada with this foster family who the Gibbs, who I've
heard a lot about. And they're good people.
And she's like, I don't know about this.
And he's like, trust me, babe. And then she lives with them for
like years under the name Grace Mcclary or something, and then
is treated badly there, runs away from them, comes back to
(11:25):
the park and then starts. Living with the commune.
Yeah, living with the commune and threatening and blackmailing
Captain Park Ranger. Daddy got it.
Yes. Oh, yeah.
OK. And then so the other question
is like, OK, she's living in thepark.
It's not like she has rent or anything.
(11:46):
So like, what? What does she need so much money
for? Is she just basically trying to
teach him a lesson? And like, like, what is it?
Like, is she using drugs or? Yeah, I think the motivation
behind her blackmailing Captain Park Ranger Daddy was lost on
me. I thought what they showed was
that she's gotten in with this like drug hustling group with
(12:12):
the gold X tattoo and stuff. And so maybe she like let it
slip that her real dad is or like her dad is the park Ranger
or something. And then all the people were
like, hey, you need to like he, he's rich, probably go get money
from him. Or maybe she just knew that he
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had some money and like she wanted money to buy drugs or
something. And basically, I feel like
anytime they show someone in theworld of drugs, they're always
trying to hustle the people in their lives for money, you know?
And so I think it was maybe justthat we're like, she was like,
oh, this is an access point to money.
(12:53):
Let me exploit this. Oh, OK.
And then that's where she meets Shane McGuire and like, falls in
love with him. Is that gunman?
Yes. OK, OK, this is my question.
What did he have to do with anything?
OK. Yeah, that's also.
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I'm like, oh, he went from beingan unimportant person to an
important person and then an unimportant person again.
OK, so he's important because hewas keeping secrets for Kyle
Turner and his wife Jill. So he was the one who ended up
killing Sean Sanderson. And that's why Kyle felt like
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they have, they have like a weird relationship where it's
like they're like pointing like Spider man meme, right?
They're like, if you shoot, I shoot kind of thing.
And then secondly, he is generally kind of like a bad
seed, it sounds like. And it also was revealed that he
was also part of the whole drug ring and that he was letting
(14:01):
people in and out of the park tosell drugs.
OK. And then they also revealed that
he and Lucy were in a relationship.
Kind of. Yeah.
He is tersees secret spelled backwards.
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
That was the other thing. They were like, Oh yeah, she
(14:21):
called him tersees. And I was like, secret spelled
backward. And then the next line was it's
just secret spelled backwards. I was like.
To be fair, I don't think I would have put it together that
that was secret spelled backwards.
I don't even know how you thought of that.
Just like I was like, that's like, I think whenever I see
(14:42):
like weird words, I'm like, whatis it backwards?
The Mirror of Eris said. Also, fuck JK Rowling.
Fuck JK. Rowling.
Yeah, exactly. So yeah.
Yeah, OK. But yeah, that was just another
thing that was like, oh, a mystery.
Oh, let me quash. OK cool, glad we sorted that
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out. Yes, OK.
And I guess Oh yeah, the other thing that I wrote down is that
there's no actual resolution on why Shane was doing the drug
stuff. Like yeah, I got assuming he's
just a CD character but like nothing about him or his back
story so who knows, yeah. I think just like, oh look, an
(15:29):
easy way to make money. Yeah, I guess.
Weird. Yeah.
The other question that I had islike when there's this big
reveal about how Captain Park Ranger is actually Daddy.
He was like, oh, Lucy ended up kidnapping Sadie.
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I didn't know who Sadie was. I forgot.
I don't know if that was mentioned.
Oh, Sadie, I think is his granddaughter, you know, the one
with the black curly hair. Oh, OK.
Yeah. And then what was the connection
with Kate? Because at the whole beginning
(16:10):
of that conversation, he was like, oh, when I got the
pictures of the family, Kate wasremoved or something.
And he was like, oh Kate, like trouble just sticks stir like
white on rice or something. Yeah, it was it was not the
pictures, it was the DNA. So they were like DNA testing
(16:32):
and probably using using DNA of people that live in the park to
like clear their DNA from something or something.
But then he didn't submit his daughter's DNA as part of that,
which it would have become a match because Kate and Lucy are
half sisters. But he didn't submit it.
(16:53):
And then I think he said that because as a response to the
fact that her DNA was already inthe system, because she's been
like arrested multiple times fordrugs, because it was already
previously established that she is an addict and had a relapse
recently. So I think he was saying.
So it was. It was like Agent Turner being
like, bro, I know what's going on.
(17:17):
Because even though you didn't submit Kate's DNA, her DNA
already existed. And guess what?
It's a match with Lucy. Oh, man.
Her DNA exists in the system because she's a delinquent.
Yeah, Daddy. Oh, OK, that makes a lot worse
sense now. I like this.
(17:40):
That that really crystallized itup here.
I'm glad. Yeah.
That was good. That was good.
The other things that I had issues with, The penultimate
episode felt like the end of theseason kind of where it was like
this big chase scene and then itends with him being shot or
(18:03):
sorry, I guess this is more intothe first half of this last
episode. Then there's like this huge
thing where he's like running through the park, like running
away from Shane, and then he gets caught by Shane.
And then Vasquez comes with the last second and then there's
still 20 minutes left in the episode and no answers.
So I kind of just kept going after that even though I felt
(18:24):
like the big chase scene was theend of it.
And then it turned out that it wasn't like, cuz like you said,
Shane was not even a part of herstory all that much.
He was just some guy. Yeah, I know.
I thought it was just like a massive red herring.
I mean, I won't hold it against the show that they had like a
(18:47):
really exciting part happened before a calmer part where you
get all the answers, because I feel like shows do that a lot.
But yeah, it was. I just don't think that entire
Shane thing was necessary at all.
But I guess that's it's just a red herring.
I don't know. I think like the massive action
part normally happens with the person who actually committed
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the crime, right? Like even in Department Q, it
was like a massive action scene where they're like trying super
hard to get her out of the hyperbaric chamber and they're
like, Oh my God, are they going to make it?
But at that point you kind of, you already know like who are
the perpetrators? And then they end up like going
after the perpetrators and then you get your answers because the
(19:29):
person that they're going after is the one who did it.
But in this case, the chase scene was was with Shane.
Unrelated. Yeah.
Yeah. And like, yeah.
He didn't even kill her. OK, question.
When the chasing was happening, did you think he had anything to
do with her death? Yeah, because that was the point
(19:50):
where we had found out that he was in her.
Video OK, so in that case I think it was fine because it was
clearly an intentional red herring.
And then they're like, oh wait, you were just in love with her,
but I have nothing to do with her death.
Interesting. Then what could it be?
(20:10):
Wait, so. You think it's?
Fine that they did it that way. I think it's fine that they did
it that way. I think like, I don't know why
he got so violent though, because he thought they were
going to frame him. Question why, why Shane got
violent or why Kyle? Why Shane got violent with Kyle?
Why was he like hunting him down?
I don't know why Kyle was hunting Shane down.
(20:32):
I think. I think it was just like.
I thought it was the other way around.
Or Kyle went to Shane's camp andthen was like looking for
something, unclear what, and then found the drugs and then
was like Shane does know something and then he gets shot
by Shane. Yeah.
OK. So I think so.
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Kyle was obviously trying to figure out what happened to
Lucy. Then he finds drugs and he's
like, oh, this is clearly a connection to Lucy.
Interesting. I should investigate this
further. Oh no, I got shot.
And then Shane's like, Oh no, he's found the drugs.
He probably thinks I killed Lucy.
I need to kill him before he gets any further down this
(21:14):
rabbit hole because I don't wantto get framed for this bitch's
death. But why would he do that?
Because then like, Shane would be like, you can't believe
anything he says. And here's why he paid me to
kill Sean Sanderson. Like they have leverage over
each other. That is true.
That's a good point. I don't know if he was thinking
like that. Yeah, I guess, like, there was
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just a lot of, like, questionable character
motivation. Like, why did you do that?
Like, I understand that you could, and it was an exciting
chase scene, but then it was just like, but you didn't even
kill her. Yeah.
I know it's like bro what are you even defending yourself
against right now? Looking awfully suspicious.
(21:57):
Shame for no. Reason the lady doth protest
too. Much.
Oh yeah. And then Speaking of unnecessary
deaths, just like Captain Daddy just shooting himself at the
end. I was like.
I also could barely even tell that he was the one that shot
(22:18):
himself because like you barely even see his arm go up as he
shoots himself. Like it's that's definitely what
happened. But I was kind of like, are they
going to show like Vasquez somewhere having shot him or
something? He's just like.
Kyle, I made a mistake. Kyle, I was.
(22:41):
Like. Whoa, I thought he was like at
this. Oh that makes sense because I
like didn't even see the art. I was like what?
It all happened too fast. They should have shown him like
dramatically like Kyle and then.Shot himself.
Yeah, I like that better. Instead of being like, and then
(23:03):
Kyle's like, he doesn't even like, look around.
Yeah. And then I was like.
Bro. Like, I don't even.
I don't even know this guy. Like, we didn't.
I feel like we didn't really have a lot of empathy for him.
He barely showed up during the episode.
(23:26):
You mean park Ranger Daddy? Yeah.
Park Ranger. Daddy.
Yeah. OK I so I both think this show
should have been longer and alsoshorter.
Like if it was longer, they could have established him more
as like Turners mentor and like Turner owes him a lot because
they kind of tried to do that where they were like, oh, like
Turner would be out of a job if it wasn't for park Ranger daddy
(23:49):
like saving his ass, blah blah blah.
And so I think they were supposed to show that like he
was very indebted to him and stuff And they're basically like
family. Like he and his ex-wife are
invited to their anniversary party.
His godson was Caleb and stuff. And so they're supposed to show
that, like, their lives are veryintertwined, but I just don't
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think we got enough of that during the show to, like, feel a
lot for this man. Yeah, yeah, I think they could
have done away with some characters.
So I think Shane to a point was a little unnecessary.
I think also the the native parkRanger guy, he didn't really
(24:36):
play that much of A role. I thought, yeah, I thought he
was going to be. For some reason, I thought he
was the guy that baby Lucy was waving to because he was like,
Oh yeah, I was close with her. Maybe that's what we were
supposed to think. Maybe he's also a red herring.
Maybe. Oh, yeah, I was close with
Maggie. Yeah, not that close.
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
(24:59):
See that's what I'm saying. Like what?
Just like goes up and then gets quashed.
It's like, oh, OK, great. Yeah, yeah, I just like the
pacing of this show was. It was weird.
It was weird and there was a lotof just unnecessary things and
(25:19):
we never even got an under an understanding on what those
symbols were either. Right.
No, I think. Do you think she learned them
from Indigenous park Ranger man or something and then drew them
both in the house and also in the Nevada house?
(25:42):
As probably. Reminder of home kind of thing.
I think so so strange but but Speaking of natives, I did do a
little bit of research on the native tribe in Yosemite Valley.
So they are called the Me Walks,MIW OK.
And I couldn't find too much on Elowin.
(26:05):
So that in the show it's supposed to be this afterlife
for the me Walk or for the native tribe, which is not
actually mentioned by name. So anyway, but it's called the
afterlife. But I actually couldn't find too
much on what Eloin actually was via Googling.
There's just a camp Eloin, whichI don't, I don't Yeah, that's
(26:26):
all I could find via Googling. So yeah, Bruce, if you know, let
us know. And another fun fact about the
Miwok is that the Star Wars films that feature the forest
dwelling creatures are called Ewoks, which may or may not have
been named after the Me Walks. There's no confirmation or
(26:49):
denial. Those are the two options.
They either are or they're not. I think it's like it's a.
Baby, and that's on very useful information that we provide to
you. Yeah, for.
This may or may not be true. You're welcome.
They call me fake news, Richie. Or do they?
(27:13):
They Call Me Maybe sometimes truthful, but maybe sometimes
not. One of us tells the truth.
One of us lies. Oh, they're both me.
Oh. Feels like north of north again.
Our heart is in the right place,OK?
(27:33):
We. Tried.
Indigenous stories should be told.
We just can't tell them. We wouldn't be having this
problem if Indigenous stories were told more.
Exactly. Educate us, please.
We're. Begging you.
Please tell us. We're so sorry.
(27:58):
Oh my God, oh so sorry. Oh gosh.
OK, I had a fun fact. Well, it's not that fun,
honestly. Is it a truth or is it a lie?
It's a truth, but like you probably already guessed, that
is it. A me what?
(28:26):
Isn't that the Miwok we're basedon?
Played the other way around. No is that I looked up whether
there actually are underground mines in Yosemite and there are.
There are a lot of there. There may or may.
(28:47):
Not be under underground mines at Yosemite.
Great. No, there are.
There definitively are there areremnants of underground mines
within the park. While mining is no longer active
within the park's current boundaries, historical mining
operations left behind shafts, tunnels, and mine structures.
(29:10):
I think they were mining gold, which makes sense because
California and B, the XS in the OR the tattoo had gold in it.
OK, Oh, this is another question.
Why not just sell the gold? Maybe, well, maybe per oz the.
(29:36):
Drugs are more. Drugs are more lucrative, I
don't know. Or maybe there's just more
drugs. Like, you can make drugs, but
you can't really make gold, you know?
But they're tattooing every single person, and they're
tattooing the bottles with gold,yeah.
But that's like that much gold. OK, fair enough.
(29:56):
But you know what? Good point.
Just pan for gold. Good point.
Maybe not. The California Gold Rush of 1749
fake. News Ruchiata again.
Or is it 1850? Yeah, actually.
(30:17):
Oh, OK. Yeah, I thought it was 1848.
Oh, I thought it was 1849. I think 1848 is when it was
discovered. And I know this because in 4th
grade in California, we learned about the we we did California
history in 4th grade and our class did a musical called Gold
(30:38):
Dust or Bust. And then the first song in that
musical goes blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and 1848.
And so that's how I know. And then I think it ended in
1865, because I think that's happens at the end of the
musical. Oh OK, so I thought it was 1849
(30:59):
because of the 49ers. I think you're.
Right, my God showing me. It's gold.
No, I'm right. I'm right.
OK. Gold was discovered January
24th, 1848. OK.
And then maybe 1849 is like whenthe gold rush happened, maybe
something like that because we're a traveled slow back then.
(31:20):
So it took a full year to establish the rush.
Oh wait, no. The California Gold Rush
officially began January 24th, 1848.
OK, now we. Can do as Richie strikes again.
Yeah. Why is it called the 49ers then?
The gold prospectors who flockedto California in 1849 during the
Gold rush. They're based on people who were
(31:41):
a year late to the Gold Rush. That's crazy.
That's like calling. That's like calling if there was
a sports team called the Moonwalkers or something and
then like nicknaming them the 70s like.
Yeah. Crazy.
OK, well anyway, what? This is crazy.
(32:04):
It's like every every source I go to is that it's just the
people who flocked in 1849 that's crazy.
It was also discovered in January 1848, so they had an
entire year to get there. They had to start flocking a
year to go viral. It took a year to go viral.
(32:28):
Wow. Wow.
Oh, you know, I, I, I don't knowif we talked about this yet, but
another thing that I found like really out there was how the
bracelet, like her bracelet fellfrom the top of El Capitan and
he found it. And it didn't like break and
(32:50):
fall apart. Yeah, he like found it in a tree
or I think it did break, but andthen he found the beads too, and
then it wasn't even important. Well, I guess it was it a little
bit important in that they foundwho she was because of the
bracelet. They discovered she was Lucy
(33:11):
because Lucy showed up in those camp photos and they knew what
camp photos to look at because he found the bracelet.
Were they camp photos? Remember, it's like the first
assignment. Did we watch?
This show I feel like. You and I watched completely
different parts of the show. Mutually exclusive.
(33:36):
Everyone watching this episode once again, we already said this
during Department Q Everyone watching this episode is going
to be like these bitches don't even know anything.
Like I didn't even have questions about this show.
What am I doing here? OK.
I can host this podcast. Please, please tell us we don't.
(34:04):
Want to do anything? OK, so he finds the bracelet.
He sees his ex-wife has rearranged into take a hike or
whatever. And then he's like, I know where
this bracelet is from. And then his first assignment
for Vasquez is looking through all of the camp photos from all
(34:28):
of the years that that camp existed to try to find this
girl's face. Wow, did I miss this episode or
like what? That's how she's like.
I found a match, run the facial recognition.
Her name's Lucy. Oh, yeah.
OK. And then the the bracelet that
they found was like on her as a young girl.
I think they just, I don't know if the photo had her with the
(34:51):
bracelet, but it was like in therepository of camp photos of the
camp that made those bracelets. I see, OK that thank you for
actually watching this show. Well I didn't know who Shane was
so I don't like have paid attention to the show.
(35:11):
I think you got the first half, I got the second-half.
Nice, nice, great. OK, what else did I want to talk
about? Oh, yeah.
OK, I think just that initial scene of El Capitan.
I put I put this on our Instagram.
That made my palm sweats. Oh much?
(35:33):
Oh, anytime anyone was on top ofit.
Just like opening scene where there's like climbers going up.
I was like, Oh my God, just thinking about it now I'm
sweaty. Yeah, yeah.
It was so scary. I can't believe people do that.
Yeah, lead climbing. It's terrifying.
Looks so scary. Also.
(35:55):
I'm pretty sure people call it El Cap.
Let me confirm that. Like, do people call?
Yeah, yes. Many people, especially those
familiar with the Yosemite National Park and the climbing
community, refer to El Capitan as El Cap.
So I. Don't think, I think everyone,
all the Park Rangers would probably be calling it El Cap,
(36:18):
but they were always like El Capitan, like they had never
said the word before, didn't it feel like?
That it did. It did.
El Capitan Park Ranger Daddy. Yes, exactly.
It was always him. Oh, OK.
Yeah. Wow.
(36:38):
What was I going to say something about El Cap?
Oh yeah. Have you ever been to Yosemite?
You have right? I have nice, I have never.
Actually been to Yosemite before.
I haven't been in a long, long time.
Probably since then. Yeah.
Oh, wow. Yeah, 25 some years.
(37:01):
I think I do want to go though because the views did look
stunning. Yeah, actually this is a
question I was going to ask you.Did this show make you more want
to go to Yosemite or did it makeyou not want to go to Yosemite?
It made me want to go to Yosemite.
It felt very similar to Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, where,
(37:22):
like the content of the show aside, the views in the
background were stunning. Like Utah, like Salt Lake City
is beautiful. Mm Hmm.
Gorgeous mountains. Yeah, yeah.
Did. Did you not feel that way?
No, I did. I think, I think it, it made me
want to go to the park, But thenI was also like, oh, there's
(37:44):
such an A dark underbelly to this park.
Like damn. But it's not like real, Yeah,
they don't actually have drug rings there, right?
I mean, do they? Maybe, maybe not.
We don't know. I was also actually looking up
if there were actually people like encampments living in
(38:08):
Yosemite. I also looked that up.
OK, what did you find? I couldn't.
Find anything? I mean, maybe it was the way
that I searched, but a lot of people were like, yeah, of
course people live in Yosemite, like all of the Park Rangers and
their families or something likethat.
And I was like, well, that's notreally what I was asking.
Yeah, I kind of had the same thing.
I I, I looked up, are there communes in Yosemite?
(38:30):
And then the results were like, while there aren't traditional
communes, there are a lot of community like towns in Yosemite
where people live and like a lotof residences that have a very
community feel. I was like, I feel like that's
different. Because it's not.
That there were shops and restaurants.
That's different. Yeah.
(38:50):
So I don't think they're like these random communes in the
park. Yeah, at.
Least there's no evidence of that.
I want to see if like people named Glory like actually exist
and live in the park. Yes, yes, same.
Yappers, let us know. If you're one of them, let us
(39:11):
know. Oh, you know that shot of a deer
getting shot? Do you remember that?
I think so. It was like such a CGI dear.
Oh yes, I did. So I was.
Like, oh, it's low budget, got it.
(39:32):
I actually was like, wow, CGI has come a long way.
Same dear. Two different responses.
That's. Funny.
Oh, another note I had. So after Gail's dad comes to
(39:52):
take him from Miss Jill, AKA Turner's ex-wife, and like she
defends, she like defends against him and he basically
like strangles her and breaks her, breaks a window against her
head, blah blah blah. And then afterwards everyone's
just like, yeah, you did the right thing.
But no one's like, I'm so sorry that this happened to you and we
(40:15):
didn't warn you that this would happen.
Yeah, yeah. Like even Vasquez is just like,
thanks, Thank you. And like, walks away.
She's not like, I'm so sorry. Yeah, also, like, what was the
point of him? Another character that honestly
could have just gone away. I don't know.
(40:36):
I think I I was more OK with that because it gave Vasquez a
good back story. About like this is the reason I
left. Yeah, yeah.
And like, This is why I'm new totown.
Yeah. So I was OK with that.
But yeah, I was like, no one apologized to Miss Jill.
(40:56):
Poor Miss Jill. Miss.
Jill be out here killing people though, or paying people to get
killed. True, true.
OK, question. Do you think what she did was
fair? To who?
To Sean Sanderson, Like, do you think that's an appropriate
(41:16):
response to someone who presumably sexually assaulted
your 6 year old boy and killed him?
I can see where she's coming from, but at the same time, I
don't know why she felt that way, that like she had to take
matters into her own hands because she very obviously had
video footage of Sean Sanderson doing this to her son.
(41:40):
So I feel like Sean Sanderson would have gone to prison.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
She was just kind of like, I couldn't stand the thought of
sitting there watching him in a trial try to defend himself or
something. Yeah, and I'm like you got, but
you got video evidence, so. Yeah.
Like the trial is not going to go anywhere, so you're fine.
(42:01):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I wasn't really like super
convinced why she was like, I guess like, I understand why she
felt so much rage and she probably like saw the full video
about what he actually did to him, but I can't imagine that
she would want to pay someone tolike kill him.
(42:24):
I guess. I don't know.
I don't know. I just felt like she just seems
like a sweet lady, and maybe if there were more aggressive
tendencies that we never really saw, then it would kind of make
more sense. But I don't know.
Yeah. I think I'm with you.
I think I forgot that or like, yeah, I didn't think about the
(42:47):
fact that if they did go to trial, it would definitely come
out in her favor. So why did she feel the need to
take matters into her own hands?So yeah, I think if I was her,
I'll probably just let it go to trial.
I don't know, honestly. I can't predict how I would feel
in that situation. Yeah.
But. I don't know.
(43:08):
I don't even know if paying someone to kill him for me would
even be cathartic like I wanted to be.
Exactly. I think if I felt so much rage
that I couldn't wait for the criminal justice system to take
place, then I would just go witha shotgun and kill him myself.
If I felt so like so much rage. Yeah, yeah.
(43:29):
OK Oh my last point is that formaldehyde heat camera thing
was such bullshit. Was such bullshit.
AI don't formaldehyde heats up abody.
Doesn't it? Isn't it to be a preserver?
(43:51):
Yes. I also had that question too.
No, exposure to formaldehyde doesn't directly cause a rise in
body temperature. It primarily affects the body by
irritating mucous membranes and disrupting cellular function.
So only in alive bodies will it induce any sort of reaction.
(44:12):
OK, that's AB. Facial recognition cameras do
not need heat to work. They have an IR light that sends
IR infrared dots to your face, creates a 3D image of your face,
and then an IR camera to look atthat 3D image.
So it has nothing to do with theresting temperature of your
(44:36):
face. Thank you for that explanation
because I also was like why didn't it just work the first
time? Like it sounds like having OK
Also then using what you just said about the face biometrics
then does it still make sense that he put drops in the eyes to
make it work to like make the eyes glassy?
(44:56):
I don't know. I guess I don't really know,
like what dead eyeballs are like.
So maybe it had to be, it neededthe drops to make it like the
same topography as like an aliveeyeball.
But I think it's just about the topography and nothing about the
like characteristics. Yeah.
OK I'm going to look this up. Would biometric face sensor work
(45:20):
on dead body? Yes, a biometric face sensor
could unlock a phone using a diseased person's face.
OK, there you have it. Sorry.
Why was that necessary? It was so fake and so
unnecessary and wrong. They could have cut.
Yeah, so wrong. They could have cut 10 minutes
of the show right there. Yeah.
(45:40):
That's that's funny. Big formaldehyde doesn't want
you to know. That formaldehyde does not cause
a rise in dead body temperature.Let me see.
OK so I think there are some things around, like a dead hand
could maybe not surpass touch IDbut.
(46:07):
Yeah, we see that on TV shows all the time.
True, but that's it's a. That's because Apple developed
biometric uses. Wait, oh.
The Apple developed biometric uses radio frequency waves to
check the skin underneath a finger's outer layer, a trick
(46:27):
that supposedly prevents a dead one from being used.
It also relies on a capacitive sensor which is activated by
electrical charge and living. Skin.
Oh, that's true, I did know that.
OK, so you can't do it for the touch ID, but you probably could
do it for a face unlock. So TV shows are wrong and wrong.
(46:50):
Dang, you heard it here. Yappers.
You know, yappers, we may not know anything about indigenous
folks, but we know science, but not Star Wars Chambers.
That's. Yeah, exactly.
I learned a lot from that. Great.
OK. And then I guess like one last
thing about Jill is so she is Rosemarie DeWitt and she is in
(47:13):
United States of Tara and Mad Men.
Oh yeah, I recognize her from United States of Tara.
I loved that show. United States of Tara, like
really freaked me out to be honest, 'cause I think that I
forget the actress's name, but she's a really good horror
actress. Yeah, Toni, Toni Collette.
(47:37):
Yeah, she's a very good horror actress.
She's. So good.
She was also in the. Staircase.
She was also in. She's been in a lot of stuff.
She was in the staircase. She was in the way, way back.
(47:57):
Oh, she has a Golden Globe. She was in hereditary.
Hereditary. The Sixth Sense.
Oh, OK, yeah, hereditary. That was the one that also
really stuck in my head. Oh, and she's in About a Boy and
Little Miss Sunshine. She's in Everything OK Other
actors, Captain, Park Ranger, Daddy was, I think, like the
(48:20):
main character in Jurassic Park.Huh.
Or he was someone big in Jurassic Park.
He's going to Google. Captain, Park Ranger and.
Tamed Park Ranger captain. What is his actual name?
Sam Neil. Sam Neil.
(48:41):
Yeah, he's the main guy. OK.
Yeah, OK, OK. Yeah.
Cool. Alan Grant, the Doctor.
Sorry, Doctor. Alan Grant.
Yeah, put some respect on his name.
We should also then give him respect because his name is
actually Sir Nigel John Dermott Sam Neil.
(49:07):
He's knighted. He's knighted, yeah.
Oh, he's also in Apples Never Fall.
Did you watch that? Oh, no.
Is that something? Moriarty, Yeah.
Leanne Moriarty. Leanne Moriarty.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
They just made a show about it last year.
Yeah, I guess he was the dad in that.
(49:28):
Oh, I totally forgot. Oh nice, I think that was the I
didn't watch the show but I readthe book.
Oh, the book was so good. Doesn't help but spread this
particular case. But fun fact.
Oh, and then Eric Bana, who plays Agent Turner, the main
(49:50):
character, was the original Hulk.
Oh, that's why, OK. Angie recognized Eric Bana and
was like that guy, that guy. And I was like, I've never like,
I don't know. And then he was like, oh, it's
Eric Bana. And I'm like, could be anyone,
(50:12):
yes. He was also in Troy.
I don't know if he's the main character.
He is the main lead in The Time Traveller's Wife.
He's apparently in the other Bowling Girl.
Great hope he succeeded. He's in Finding Nemo.
Who is he? Finding Nemo?
Oh my God, do you want to guess who he was in Finding Nemo?
OK, crush. OK, wait, wait, wait, wait.
(50:36):
Sorry, I need to find who he wasactually.
So not crush the. Turtle is not crush.
No, he's not crush. Is he Scar the guy?
The fish tank guy? No, wait, no, that's not Gill.
Gill, he's not. He is not American.
(50:58):
The Seagull. No, but getting closer.
The. Dentist accent wise, getting
closer accent wise no. Who is possibly left?
He's Bruce's friend, the Hammerhead.
Shark. Named Anchor.
Oh my. God, he might be the one that's
(51:19):
like, oh, look at me, I'm flippy.
I'm a flippy little dolphin. That might have been him, or
that might have been the other shark.
I'm not sure. Amazing impression that really
took me back. Oh this episode is so useless.
So stupid, So stupid. So anyway, should we meet
(51:40):
ratings? I I'll give it like a six out of
10. Yeah, I think it was still net
enjoyable. I don't think it was an entire
waste of time. But it was like, the story
wasn't that good. The twist wasn't that good.
(52:01):
The shots are visually stunning.That's about it, yeah.
I think I'll give it a three. I thought it I thought it was a
waste of time. OK.
Fair. I think, OK, to be fair, I think
maybe I'll give it a four. I'll give it a four because I
(52:23):
think I was just really tired this weekend.
And then when I watched the lastepisode yesterday, I was like, I
spent so much of my time for that.
I was actually angry and so that's why I don't like it.
And I will say I will give it a four because their shots of
(52:43):
Yosemite were stunning. Yeah, yeah.
I don't even know what would be a one or a 2D NFI guess.
Binge in progress. Yeah.
What you binge in? I started the.
The hunting wives today. I just started that one too.
(53:05):
I can't wait to talk about there's.
Also, there's also a Miss Jill in that one.
Oh yes, yeah, I yeah, I cannot wait to talk about.
Same. That series.
Yep, I just finished We were Liars last night.
Oh my God I wish we did that show for this podcast.
(53:28):
It was so good. I think you should watch it.
OK. It was so good.
Yeah, I won't give spoilers, butI did not see the twist coming
at all. What is the premise of the show?
The premise is that So it's set on this private island off the
(53:51):
coast of Martha's Vineyard. And on this private island,
there are four houses, all ownedby the same family.
And there's like a patriarch grandpa.
He has three daughters and then they each have one child.
And so those cousins, it's more it's about those cousins and one
(54:11):
of the girls. So like, they always spend their
summers on this island. And then when they're 16, she
only remembers half a summer andthen wakes up at the end of the
summer from a coma and like doesn't remember what happened
and no one will tell her. And so the next summer she goes
back to that island and is like asking everyone to help her
piece together what happened andlike, no one really wants to
(54:33):
tell her what happened. Wow, yes, it's.
So good. OK, apparently the.
Book was really bad, Jing Chen told me.
But the show I thought was very good.
OK, I'm kind of burnt from watching too many terrible shows
that I didn't really like, so I might try and watch this one.
(55:00):
Yes, do it. Do it at first.
OK, I will say at first, for thefirst few episodes, I was like,
oh, this is like so infuriating.Like is this show just bad,
blah, blah, blah. And then it's like, no, there's
an explanation for everything. OK, Yeah.
High praise. Great.
Yeah. All right.
(55:20):
Thanks for listening to us yappers.
I'm. Sorry and also we deeply
apologize. Thanks for yapping with us.
If you love this episode, have some hot takes we missed, or if
you've got a show you're dying for us to binge next, follow us
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