Tears of the Nameless: Ch. 14-27

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Welcome. We are the Bitches of Death and
Mirror podcast. We are a print media podcast and
we are specializing currently inthe High Republic.
My name is Rachel. And I'm Jen, and we're super
excited to have you on the podcast today.
What are we talking? About Yeah, today we're talking
about our second part of George Mann's book, Tears of the

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Nameless. And these set of chapters, which
are chapters 14 through 27, are unbelievable.
I don't know how we lucked out so well on these chapters
because like from start to finish, they're like, they're
just like a nice little neat section.
It was, it worked out perfectly.It wasn't like planned that way
because we don't read the whole book before we do these

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recordings because we want to, like, not say things based on
hindsight so that you, the listeners kind of are going
along with us in surprise. And ooh, buckle up because these
chapters are a doozy in the bestway.
But before we get to that, we talk about Star Wars news.
What do you got? Star Wars news.

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OK, You know, my first point wasEmmy nominations, and I really
don't have much to say other than like, I think Andor got 14
nominations and then the Acolytegot one.
I'm just excited. Acolyte got one.
I'll take it. I'll.
Take it too What was it in music?
Not music, but a sound. Sound editing.

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Yeah. OK.
OK. I'm curious.
You know what? It's something.
Just to see like what that one is going up against.
I actually haven't really done much like digging into to see
what other like TV shows were nominated in that category.
Yeah, I haven't looked into it aton.
I know Pedro Pascal was nominated for The Last of Us for

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a lead actor. I can't think of any other
denominations that actors are upfor besides I think Alan Tudick
for K2. SO maybe.
Yeah, that's right. I can't think of anybody else.
My gosh, yes. I'm so sorry, Forrest, because I
know you listen to this podcast.I shared a meme about it and
everything. I can't believe I forgot.
But you know what? 2 actors is still better than

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zero. I was really hoping to see some
of the female characters on there because some of those
performances were just incredible.
But I know it's tough competition in television,
especially right now in the age of streaming.
There's just so much content, things get competitive.
And Star Wars, I think, has historically been kind of
overlooked in a lot of ways in terms of like awards for things

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like this. And so just the fact that we're
getting any makes me excited that that's starting to change.
Oh absolutely. So many times they put sci-fi
fantasy in this little box. They're like pat them on the
heads. Like OK, that's precious.
You're not a serious show. Like you're not addressing like
big world concepts or anything. And just like, do you watch the

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same show? What is your problem?
Exactly. It's like they view ones that
are entertainment focused as notqualifying really.
And I, I just don't agree with that.
It's the same for horror stuff. Horror has been just
historically left out of all of this stuff, even though there's
some really beautiful horror films out there.

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So I sci-fi fantasy is starting to see an uptick in
considerations for these kinds of things.
Oh yeah, totally. Because like, even at the end of
the day and or getting 14 Emmy nominations is so huge.
That is a lot. Amazing.
Yeah, that's exciting. Yeah, I have two things.

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First one I'll say is the lovelyZuraida Cordova, who is one of
the authors of the High Republic.
She has a new book called I'm SoSorry.
I'm going to try my best. The Inheritance of Orkita
Davina. And it was actually featured on
The View, which is awesome. Yeah.
She had shared something about it because she was watching it

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on TV. And like, how surreal must it be
to see your work show up on a daytime talk show like that,
that is so popular. Well deserved.
So it's it went on the very longlist of books.
I will hopefully get to 1 day. Yeah.
Public but if you have space anyone to read other things

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other than Star Wars, please go check that out and give her a
follow. I think it's a Zoraida Solo on
Instagram I believe is reasoning.
Oh. My God.
Next one I will be as brief as possible but real quick, just a
reminder for everybody that in sci-fi fantasy, the things that
people ship or get excited by oraccept are very different than

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real life. They are not the same things.
I barely talk the men in real life.
So like, you know, I and this isrelevant, I swear.
I was like, where is this going?I promise it'll make sense in in
a minute, but there is this book, I don't know if you're
familiar with it, Rachel or viewer is called the love
hypothesis and it is a very entertaining.

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I would call it like a really great summer read and it's by
Ali Hazelwood. I happen to read this before it
was ever published, and the reason for that is because it
was actually a right lo fanfic. Shut up.
Not kidding. And it got published and it was
amazing, which a lot of right low fanfics have gone on to be

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published as books under different characters, obviously,
because they can't just be like Ray and Kyle Orman.
But if you look at the cover, itis Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver
like it's Yeah, it is. I'm.
So dead. Like literally laying on the
beach or by the pool reading that book is just.
There's nothing quite like it. If you can get a Margarita or a
virgin Margarita if that's your thing, go for it.

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Definitely would recommend. It's fun.
Whatever. No, that's been out for a while
and there's been talk of a moviecoming out based on that, which
is awesome. There was so much speculation
about like, Oh my God, wouldn't it be so funny if Daisy Ridley
and Adam Driver did this? Guys, there was no way.
But there is kind of a way because they just announced the
lead cast and guess who is playing the male lead?

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Who was Adam Driver in the situation?
I have no idea. You would never guess because
it's Daisy Ridley's husband, TomBateman.
What? Yep.
I know people that were aware ofwhat this was lost their mind.
I laughed about it for like a solid day.
I would just forget about it andthen think about it again and

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laugh because I love the thoughtof Daisy and her husband having
a good chuckle about that situation.
It's such a like bizarre turn ofevents.
It's so funny. What are the odds?
I know it's so, so funny. So I'm not a big romance like
movie person. I'm going to go support this

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whenever it comes out for a lot of reasons.
I'm sure it'll be silly and fun,but I just thought it was
hysterical that that's the way the casting ended up.
And I'm like, I want to know howthat conversation went.
I was like, hey, so I'm up for this role.
That's a fanfic about you and Adam Driver and the chemistry
you had in Star Wars. So good.

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I love the messages I got from alot of you on Instagram.
There were memes, there was laughter.
It was just a very funny thing. But of course this brought.
Up a lot of. Feelings from a lot of people
about ships and things. And it's like, guys, just
remember, this isn't this isn't real.
Probably the only Star Wars shipthat is actually real life

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completely healthy is Ahera and Kanan.
Everybody else is a hot mess Express in some way, shape or
form, and none of it's real. And people enjoy things about
fantasy and sci-fi that are not relevant to them in the real
world. Try to be kind to people who
find joy and comfort in things you don't agree with.
It's not hurting. Yeah, anybody.

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And now we get a hilarious storyabout this movie.
Just because I find Kylo Ren hotdoesn't mean I think all, like,
serial killers are hot, you knowwhat I mean?
It's just like. Yeah, look like he's so, so hot
in theory, right? And then in the real world I
would punch this motherfucker inthe face, right?
Because like. Not yeah.
And I'm like, I don't get why people don't get that, you know,

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fantasy, yes. It's like, have you just tried
finding people attractive and not worrying about anything
else? 10 out of 10 would, but I
thought that was hilarious. I wanted to mention it in case
there's any relo people listening that.
Funny God. I found it hilarious.
Yeah, that's so amazing. Yeah.
All right. That's a good one.
I know, random as hell, I loved it.

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But that's all the Star Wars news that I had.
But I did want to mention you are heading to San Diego Comic
Con. I am, Yep.
I'm going ended up getting an opportunity to volunteer there
so I'm so excited I'll be able to volunteer a couple hours in
exchange for a pass for the day.Love that.

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I know I have never been to San Diego Comic Con.
It's just like in one of those things that just like there's so
many deterring factors. It's so like difficult to access
and all the things anyways. So it's never been like top of
my things to try and get, but I had this opportunity and I was
like, I'm just going to go for it.
And I'm so excited. There are so many like people

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that are going to be there, likeactors within the Star Wars
community and then even like writers and authors.
And then did you hear that George Lucas is going to be
there? Did actually that's great Star
Wars news that I don't think we've ever brought up, but I
think a lot of people were really excited about that.

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I'm, I'm not really, to be perfectly honest, but I get why
people are excited because he doesn't go to these things.
Exactly, totally. Like it's a big deal and it's
it's indicative to me that he'llprobably show up for Star Wars
Celebration coming up. Maybe he.
And maybe this is him like taking two years to practice,
which totally fill you on that, George.

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Maybe. I mean, he's going to talk about
his new Lucasfilm museum. So it really is like Star Wars
adjacent. So I don't think he's going to
really talk about Star Wars like, you know, per SE.
So I don't know. I don't know why he's decided
now of all times to like vote. It's so random.

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There's like one of those like once in a lifetime opportunities
that like, I really hope that I'll be able to get into that
panel for. Yeah, I, I know like 1,1,000,000
other people are going to and, you know, whatever.
If I don't make it, it's not theend of the world.
I was just excited. I found some other like fantasy
authors that I have followed my whole life.

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I've never come to say San DiegoComic Con are going to be at San
Diego Comic Con. So I'm just like so excited on
many, many layers and levels. So yeah, I.
Can wait. Super exciting.
I cannot wait to hear how it went.
And I will manifest so hard thatyou get into that panel so that
you can see George Lucas in the flash, because that really would
be such a unique opportunity. I know totally.

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So we'll see. All right, now we're done with
Star. Wars, tears.
We're done. We're going to start off with a
bang. Do I want to do a quick
previously on or? Do Oh my God.
Into it? Yes, please.
Go for it. OK so previously on we had the
characters Wreath and Amadeo. They're working together to link

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up the information about the blight and the nameless, finding
out that they have a shared ancestry.
And we also find out that Wreaths former master Komak is
also doing research on the nameless and he found this
ancient ruins that have a link to the Ptolemites which have a
link to the nameless. So I love that Wreath and Komak
are working together but separate.

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And then we find out that Afy Hollow, Lyox Geode and the crew
aboard the vessel are deliveringsupplies.
And even Jedi, we've got 2 new Jedi that are named E Fire and
Zaf Mora and both of these two characters were delivered to a
planet named Oyson. And then lastly, we have a new
character named Sicaris that is A child of the storm, which is

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under Baron Bulin. And the more, more important
part is that he is being injected with nameless blood.
And what does that mean? Dun Dun, Dun.
And that was most like the main meet of I think the last episode
we discussed. No, that was like such a perfect
previously on. I thought it was beautiful.
Thank you. And I mean, it's funny, you kind

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of ended with Sicaris because Chapter 14 where we're starting
is a Sicaris chapter. And I was both excited and
nervous. This dude is crazy, which is not
necessarily his fault, but also he's crazy.
So I'm a little worried about what he's doing.
Well, especially because the last section we found out that
he's headed to Oyson to track down a bunch of Jedi.

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So we're like, OK, well, we knowthe Jedi that are on Oyson
currently and no, he's headed there.
So like, what's this gonna look like?
Yep. So how, how does this chapter
go? My goodness.
Well, he's up to no good. Surprise, surprise.
And he's got a pack with him andhe's outside of what he's
calling the settlement. And we're left to assume this is

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the settlement where Zaf and Eveit's Eve.
Right, Eve? Yeah.
And Eve are protecting or helping and he calls the
nameless his brothers because their blood is the same.
And I was like, creepy, creepy, creepy.
And they had, it turns out they had heard radio chatter about
the Jedi stopping a Nihil raid on Oysen.

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So that is how the information kind of got passed through the
Nihil phone tree. And they just kind of hovered
above the planet to help pinpoint exactly where they were
at on the planet. So they knew where to land.
And so now he knows there's two Jedi.
And he's like, that's great. It's one to take to my dad, you
know, to play with and another to let the nameless eat so that

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they can get their fill. And it's so funny.
He views it not funny, but you know what I mean.
He views it as a gift to the Jedi when he kills them, which
is so, I mean, cognitive dissonance of the situation.
But I get where he's coming from, even though it's
completely wrong where it's likehe thinks like freeing them from

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the torment of their lives of being slaves to the Force or
something. I I don't know is.
So crazy yes and the fact that he's like, I wish I could have
that piece, but no no, the Jedi get to have this beautiful piece
that maybe one day I'll have I don't know, but I.
Don't want to do business for sure.
Depression, there's nice for that.

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You don't have to go around killing Jedi, you know what I
mean? Like Prozac out there?
Oh my God. On it sucks, right?
Because now that they're on planet, the Nameless don't need
help with tracking. They can, they can figure out
where the Jedi are AT. And they do.
They like run and run and run and they find the building the
Jedi are hiding in. And this is where the chapter

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gets really, really rough. So so sickers can hear Zaff and
Eve whimpering and their lightsabers coming and he just
like, jams his Electro staff into the door panel and the
Nameless are able to slip inside.
And this is how we get to read about what happens to Zaf and
Eve. And it is.

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Terrible. It's so terrible.
You know, I I text you on the side kind of like laughing but
also crying about how in the last episode you had talked
about like, RIP Zaf, like this is the end.
Like I'm just preparing for the worst.
And like, now, here we are. I'm sorry Zaf, I just knew deep

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down in my heart it didn't make the blow any easier.
No it didn't. It's been a while since I like
legit cried reading The High Republic.
I like, I had to take a, a breather from this one because
it's like we talked about Zaf and how hopeful he is about
everything in his outlook on life.
And it was just so different from what a lot of the other
Jedi are experiencing right now who are just struggling to get

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there with all that's going on. And so to have this like beacon
of light essentially have this happen to them was so hard to
swallow. It's so awful and it's such
because ZAP already reminded me of Kev MO and the fact that like
I was like last episode I was like, oh, like Kev MO and Zala

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died and is that what we're going to see with these two
characters? And the answer is yes. question
mark. I mean, we see that Zaf gets
drained of the force and Eve gets taken away.
So good luck Eve on surviving all of the injections and
whatever chaos that Bulan does to her.
Freaking hate it, it's disgusting.
It's so bad. It's so bad and I hate it too

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that the moment where sickers was like they do the master of
the pad one, master of the pad 1and the whole time I was like
neither. And I'm like, what if we just
stopped right now? Well, not only that, but he like
watches while Zaff cries. Oh, I know.
It's and I was like freaking well now you can watch why I
cry. Thank you Sikaris.
And I guess so. He's got 3 nameless with him,

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and it's kind of interesting because he's only letting 2
feed. I was really confused by this
too. Yeah.
And it gets, I think it gets brought up later, so hopefully
we'll come back to it. But it wants to eat.
The third one was like, yo, man,I'm hungry to you.
And he uses this little like zapper that is apparently
sending a current through its brain to tell it no.

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It's like an electrocuted brain impulse of some sort.
Yeah, that boolean put in crazy.And so yeah, Sicaris has the
trigger and can command them like that.
And I don't know if this was a way to get people who don't have
the staff or the rod to be able to control them, I'm assuming.
But yeah, maybe it's so sad. Yeah, cuz like he tells that one

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creature I did like that they that the creature that didn't
eat and I still don't understandthis part of that that creature
the nameless chose to not eat Zaf or was out competed from the
other two nameless. But either way, it's thinner
than the rest of the nameless that are there.

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And that's also sickly. So I know we talked about how
the nameless over time really start to like fall apart and it
kind of gross. So maybe this was an intentional
like don't let this nameless eatbecause it's going to die soon.
I don't. Know which is terrible, I mean.
Yeah, absolutely. The whole chapter is terrible.

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I didn't think it could really get much worse after he drags
Eve back to the ship crying and rocking and all that stuff cuz
she's traumatized. But then he's like OK great.
Next I got to pick up the trail of this force user I've been
tracking for several months thatkeeps getting.
Away No, I had a feeling that was who that was and I was like

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I kept like rereading my notes and I was like, it's got to be
Komak, right And then to have this they're just like.
Yep. I just wrote a curse.
Word at the end of this chapter and was like no more please
thank God we get to switch over to chapter 15 because I just
yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot.

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Well, we find out that Wreath isin Elzar's chambers.
He had just told Elzar. But the link between the
Nameless and the Blight. Elzar's delighted by this news
because this is just what the council needs.
They've been trying to figure out a way to capture the
Nameless and I love this add in because we've been wondering
where we are in the timeline andnow we can pinpoint it.

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We are. Now, currently before Beware the
Nameless and so it's almost likethese two novels like overlap a
little bit. Yeah.
And I feel like we've seen that before, right, with the young
adult in the middle grade where it's like they're happening,
happening kind of parallel. And then the adult ones are sort
of like the in between. Oh yeah, it's so great.
Yeah, yeah. So Elsar goes to talk to the

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Council and Wreath goes to the Jedi Archives.
Naturally, instead of going to sleep.
He can't sleep, so he's gonna godo research on the Nameless even
further. I love this bit though because
they explained that Wreath is specifically a researching an
old tale of the Three Ancients and the Plague of the Tolomites.

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It's like the three agents. Who are these?
I was like, is this the father or the son?
A daughter. It felt very like that coded,
Yeah, even like typed up the ancients just out of curiosity.
Like Star Wars, but they connected the ancients to this
like really old Force religion. I don't think it's the same one

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as the three ancients that are here.
But do you remember that Bad Batch episode where they go on
an excavation to find the trinket but it ends up being
this like giants like Droid thing?
So that apparently were a group that worshipped the ancients.
So not the same as this one, butI thought that was interesting

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that they had a similar name and.
Like I had totally forgotten about that.
Yeah, time frame. Yeah.
The Ptolemites existed 20,000 years prior.
They had built this utopian empire, and apparently the three
ancients that they had worshipped required gifts.
So the Ptolemites would go out and search far and wide for

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special items to bring back, oneof which was flora and fauna
from a beautiful, lush world. I was like, I know where this
is. Right as you like.
I wonder where that could possibly be?
It's Planet X, guys. It's Planet X, Yeah.
And especially the little tidbitwas that one of the four legged
creatures with a tentacled MA turned on the group that were

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those of faith. They didn't actually like, have
a word for the Force, they call them.
They believed in the faith. Yep.
Which is essentially like force users of today.
Crazy. That's like for sure in the
Nameless. Hopefully there's nothing else.
And not only did they bring backthe Nameless, supposedly these
are just like passed down stories, so Wreath's not really

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sure what's true and what's not.They also brought back a plague
with them and the plague almost wiped them out.
That's crazy. And I was like.
So he's got these two different stories. 1 sounds like the
Blight, 1 sounds like the Nameless.
And he's trying to piece together like how much of this
is truth? How much is legends?
And the most interesting part isthat the Ptolemites figured out

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a way to beat the plague. How do they do it?
I need to know right now. Do you think they were like
marquee on row and had the rod? Because Marquee out technically
controls the blight. Right, yes.
I wonder, do the three ancients each have a rod?
Is that R3 rods? Yeah, like, to me, it's like Y-3

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ain't like that would just make sense.
And they figured out a way to use these rods to control like
the Nameless and the Blight. I like the thought of that.
We'll see if that's how it turns.
That's. Interesting.
OK. And of course, Wreath is like,
I've got this cool information Ican't wait to tell Aslan.

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Yeah, the theme of this entire section, besides sadness is a be
careful wreath. I think it's the like general
vibes and the fact that he immediately was like almost
excited to tell Aslan. I was like.
I know, yeah. I'm really interested to see how
Reef's perspective changes because right now he's at this

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point where, like Aslan is like this, not great, but like he
respects his perspective and like, he kind of like wants his
approval and a lot of things. And I want to see like, will
Wreath change from that? I don't know.
I. Know I'm very excited for where
this character is going, but nervous.
Very I did like this next chapter.

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Tell me about chapter 16. Well, I'm super excited about
chapter 16 because it's Komak and it's not a 30 years prior.
It's in the present. We know that he's in the Super
cool ancient ruins of Thal whichare like friends adjacent to the
Ptolemites and he's heading towards this religious structure
to try and find more informationabout the nameless.

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And of course like all the buildings have been destroyed.
But after doing some exploring he finds this soup like mostly
intact vaulted ceiling and he looks up and he like notices
that it is a star map. I got so excited.
Me too, I love star maps. Same and like.
This might be the star map. We've got multiple places people

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are looking for in the entire story and any of them would be
helpful at this point. Oh my God, totally.
And I love that Komak can still like make out some of the
planets and the constellations and that while he can't their
language, he can still make out that the words next to the
planet is their name is like, maybe I can like match this map

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with like other maps. I can kind of like get an idea
of like where things are brilliant, brilliant.
Yeah. So like he has just, he knows
that Tallest exists, the home ofthe Ptolemites and he just needs
to combine it with knowledge elsewhere to like really
pinpoint where it's location is.But this is huge.
So huge. This is groundbreaking.

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Yeah. So he does find a planet that is
rather. Let me get back up on there.
So you come back is looking at all these planets and
constellations. He's trying to find Tolis.
And like, he reaches out to the forest to let it guide him.
And he finds this golden planet.And while he can't read the
words, he knows immediately thatthis is Tolis.
And he's going to record all of the map and then send it and try

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to figure out how to map it overwith existing maps at the Jedi
Temple, which has all the old maps.
Problem, though, is that he's not quite ready to go back to
the Jedi Order. Yeah, it's like, this is a
sticky situation emotionally. It's not like the Jedi are going
to like lightsaber him in half or anything.
But I know I don't know that Comac has actually addressed

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within himself everything that has happened.
And so I'm sure he's just feeling like not stable enough
about this situation to actuallysee Wreath or see his old, like,
friends and, you know, the Jedi.And so he's got a decision he
needs to make. This is super important
information that could provide achange in what's happening.

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And he just needs to be able to like, ruminate and think about
getting over that feeling. Which apparently he's going to
sleep on it and make the decision tomorrow morning.
Sounds great, Commack. I'm sure nothing bad will happen
between now and getting to Coruscant.
Nothing chapter. 17 Yay Chapter 17.

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This is going to be like so surprising but Lyox and AFI are
at a diner record. I love the description of this
diner. It was like a old fashioned
diner. It totally reminded me of Dex's
Diner. Like in the Skywalker time,
Yeah. Same, I loved it so much and
here is reference number 2. To.

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The weird engine situation happening on their ship.
I thought about you when I read that.
Yeah, the reason Gio doesn't like hanging out in this diner
picking up ladies is because he's obsessing over whatever
this weird thing is going on. And I was like, no, I don't like
it. I.
Don't like it either. They have such a good
conversation, though. It's a hard conversation.

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Leox basically brings up to Afy,who has been like, really thrown
herself into this situation between the Jedi and the
Republic and everything, everything.
And he kind of, he's not asking why as much.
It's more like he's trying to get her to the point that she
knows she has a choice to step away from this situation
whenever she wants to. And I think he's afraid.

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She feels like she has to. Be there totally.
I think that like, it's all fineand good when you're helping,
but I think at some point peopleare going to like, especially
the Jedi and the Republic are going to start to rely on that
help. And then it becomes like this
massive of like, now you can't let these people down if you
suddenly it's just too much. So I did appreciate that Leox

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asked and like brought up these points.
And I hope it allows Afy to kindof like, think about what she's
doing because she's so young, you know, she's not a a Jedi
Knight or anything. Like she hasn't trained her
whole life to be out in the field helping people.
Like she's just a girl. Yep, and these are dangerous
jobs sometimes. Like this is not just like an
easy grocery store, Ron, you know what I mean?

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These are things that could costthem their life or like, 'cause
something bad to happen to them.And so to be this invested in a
'cause that's not actually your 'cause, I think is giving Leox
some pause there. And it's not that he's saying
they should stop. He just wants her to acknowledge
that this is an active choice she's making, that she can take
back at any point and that he's going to support her no matter

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what. So I loved that.
What a great conversation. And at one point it made my
heart squeeze a little AFY was like, you know, if you and Geode
don't want to do this anymore, you can go, you know, off and do
your own thing and it's fine. And reacts is like weird, never
leaving you. I know it's almost like she
misses the point of the conversation at first, where

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Leox is like, I want you to think about that.
You have a way out. And she's like, oh, that means
you want out. Like if you don't want to do
this anymore, you can go. Right.
And it's more like he's older and more experienced and he
knows that when you're younger, sometimes you just don't learn
these lessons yet. And he wants to kind of expedite
the lesson for her. And yeah, he's not trying to

(30:41):
discourage her. He just wants her to realize
that there's always a choice in what she's doing.
Yeah, I did. Appreciate that she eventually
did understand his perspective and was like, This is why we're
friends and family is having these, being able to ask and say
these really hard things to eachother and keep us accountable
and I love that. Yeah, same.

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It was such a great conversation.
It was the bulk of the chapter. Was this because the only thing
left is really that we find out they haven't heard from Eve or
Zaff? Crazy.
I wonder. I wonder why?
I hate this. I hate that they haven't heard
from them. Not this obviously they can't
hear from Eve and whatever Azaf because RIP.

(31:24):
But why didn't the other people on Oysen contact them or contact
Coruson? Did they just like see the like
the dust and we're like, well, I'm just going to sweep this
under a rug like pretend this didn't happen.
Like what? Yeah, they were set to go do
things, and the fact that they didn't show up to their shift
should have been alarming. I agree.

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And it's odd that it doesn't. Like everyone's just like, oh,
I'm sure they're fine. OK, guys, but.
Man. Because they haven't heard from
them and won't be. Caffey told the Jedi that
they're free and they can do jobs in the meantime until they
hear from them. So now they're going to return
to the ship and try to convince Gio to stop obsessing over this
thing so that they can find another job to do.

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No, Gio needs to find this mysterious issue in the vessel
because I need to know what the mysterious issue is.
I do too, because I feel like we're going to get even more
mentions of it and I just need to.
I don't need another mystery right now, guys.
You know, I was thinking about our Dome of Deliverance whole
thing and that was a George Man special.
So here we are with George Man again.

(32:31):
My God, I didn't even piece thattogether.
George killing us here. Killing us.
Well, chapter 18 we go back overto Wreath who slept like shit.
He had nightmares of an ancient civilization being attacked by
the Nameless and then the Blightfollowing after and destroying
everything. And like he wakes up and he's

(32:51):
just like he is, comforted. Wreath is comforted by the
knowledge that this civilizationwas able to finally find a way
to stop the Blight and the Nameless.
But he still can't shake this feeling that something is off
and that something is missing. This made my brain like.
Me too. Yeah, while I was reading this I

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could not figure out what it was.
I was so confused. Same.
And I was hypothesizing that wasjust going to be something
completely out-of-the-box, you know what I mean?
So I, I really didn't know what this feeling was or what this
like perceived threat he's like getting from the forces that he
can't see. And obviously in this like

(33:32):
vulnerable state, the best decision he could make is to go
see who. Aslan.
But in his wreath's defense, he did say he was going to go talk
to Aslan the day prior when he found out about the Tolomites.
It's not his fault that he had nightmares.
And then, you know, he could have changed his plans.
I don't think Aslan knew about his plans, so he would not have

(33:54):
known. It's true, but he does also
acknowledge it feels better to share the burden he's facing
with all of this with someone who genuinely understands the
gravity of the situation. And I think at this point, he
feels like Aslan is the best person for that.
And that's a tricky situation tobe in when you have your

(34:15):
emotions making you feel like, Ifeel very alone.
I feel like I'm working by myself or whatever, and to have
that little pinprick of light and comfort from somebody is
great if they have your best interest in mind.
Yeah. And Aslan has Aslan's best
interest in. Mind.
Totally. Especially because I was trying
to remember the whole Aslan murder thousands of people

(34:39):
issue. And I was like, why did he do
that again? And it was because Aslan and
Yoda were going to go find the device that would have led them
to Planet X. And Aslan was like, no, no, you
can't find Planet X I'm just gonna blow everybody up.
Yeah, right. Isn't that what happened?
That's what I. Remember.
And so like this whole like Aslan.

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To me Planet X is the final solution to all of this chaos.
But apparently Aslan doesn't think so or has other ideas.
Maybe he wants to destroy the Jedi before.
I know it's hard to. Tell yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I agree about your point about Wreath being in this
super vulnerable state and then only feeling like Aslan is the

(35:21):
only one who understands him andit's just like a recipe for
disaster. Oh, it is.
We've seen many a time in many stories, and sometimes it works
out and sometimes it does not. And of course he goes down there
and Aslan knew he was coming. He's like ready to go sitting
there, like ready to do all of this.
And he says something interesting, which is that he

(35:44):
knows now that Wreath is ready to listen.
And Wreath is like, I've literally been listening to you
this whole time. What do you mean?
And Aslan's like, no, no, you'rejust hearing, you're not
listening. My God.
This guy. I know, but he senses that
Wreath is at that tipping point,right between like who Wreath

(36:05):
was prior to all this happening and whatever's going to happen
next. And so Wreath asks him about the
Ptolemite. Yeah, Aslan answers oddly, in
that he's very vague. As Lynn tells RE that the
Ptolemites lived long ago. They're a peaceful civilization
that worshipped the Force and used the Force to do great

(36:28):
things. These are all like common
information about the Ptolemitesand that the Ptolemies believed
in a balance between light and dark understanding, a need for
balance, yada yada. And Aslan then goes on to say
the Tolman's were too arrogant and brought about their own
demise with the plague. But the three ancients and a few
Ptolemites had escaped, found a way to end the plague, and then

(36:49):
created a new Kingdom on an island chained in Tolis.
That last little bit is new information to us and to Wreath
and I, I mean immediately grabs on to that information and it's
just like, excuse me. Yep.
So at least it's something, right?

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Yes, but it's for an approved that Aslan is not being
forthcoming with any information.
Yes. Or like, I wonder about this in
particular. Does he just not know that much?
But he doesn't want to tell everyone he's useless like it.
Does he want to feel important? Like I'm not sure what he's
doing. He spent 150 years obsessing
over the nameless. I feel like he has found out

(37:31):
about the whole the Ptolemites along time ago and has already.
I don't know. I almost feel like he's already
been to the thal ancient ruins and has seen all these things
and he's just like toying with everyone for unknown reasons.
I don't know. My end like Reese is obviously
excited, right? And the best thing Aslan could

(37:53):
have said was what was next, which is oh, but PSI know you
want to find Tolas now, but it'sgone because it's too hard to
find among the many planets out there.
And whatever surviving Kingdom of the Ptolemites was there was
destroyed in a flood anyway, So like, there's nothing there.
How does he know that that surviving Kingdom was flooded?
That is such a specific detail. He's been to Tolis for sure,

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right? Yeah.
OK, OK. This guy this.
This guy. Well, they thought was like, we
just had a whole book on how they swam down to the bottom of
the sea to find the ship. You're telling me that you can't
swim down to the bottom of another ocean to find this
sunken ancient civilization to find information like give me a

(38:41):
break. Like this is this is.
Atlantis like this has been done.
So like, like we know it, we know it can happen.
Where's Milo? We need you now more than ever.
That's funny because I feel likeWreath is a little Milo S.
He totally is perfect. Yeah.
So anyway, so Wreath explains the the leak, the link between

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the creatures that the Ptolemites bring back to the
Nameless and the plague, to the blight.
And Aslan is ecstatic by this information and becoming so
energetic in a way that Wreath has never seen before.
Aslan tells Wreath he's proud ofhim.
OK. Again, manipulative vibes.
Yes, and this next part where Wreath explains how, yeah, we

(39:24):
already talked about that, the searching everywhere.
Anyways, so yeah, Aslan is in a weird mood.
And Aslan then changes the subject to ask Wreath what's
really bothering him. And Wreath opens up to say that
he feels like something is off and unsettling.
Aslan's like great, you're on the right path.
Keep following that I know. It goes back to your point that

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you think he knows a lot more and this does give that vibe of
like, you already know what's happening.
Just tell people like it's like he's pushing Wreath because he
wants Wreath to get to that point, even though that's not
necessary if he already knows the information.
Just tell people I'm so. Frustrated with is this where

(40:07):
like your teacher in school is like, I'm not going to tell you
the answer you need to find it yourself kind of thing?
Yes, 100 percent. And he kind of like says that
about the Ptolemites too, right?Because Wreath gets defeated
finding out that they're all gone and Aslam is like, Oh my
God, no, this is great news because I already knew about the
Ptolemites, but you found it completely separate from me and

(40:29):
that's great. And it's like, so we could have
saved Wreath all this time of research and not sleeping if you
had just told him. But again, he.
Won't. Go down this path, and that's
what makes me nervous, is that he's sort of manipulating things
to force Wreath on a different path than what the Jedi might.

(40:50):
Suggest exactly, because that isAslan's next point.
He goes and tells Wreath, hey, I've noticed that when things
are rigid, they eventually will break.
And right now I can see that theJedi Order is becoming more and
more rigid every single day. And I don't want that to happen
to you. And OK, so Aslan, sure, you're

(41:11):
right about this. This is very valid.
But I don't think you're right at the same time.
Yeah, it's like, it's like, you're not wrong, but you're not
right. And it's.
Yes, though it's because of his motivation.
What he's trying to get out of this is wrong.
The actual sentiment is right. And we see what happens to the
Jedi Order because of that. But this whole thing about like

(41:34):
Reef, open your mind and walk your own path and see the bigger
picture. And it's like it's so hard for
Wreath to hear because essentially the messages, the
Jedi are not the bigger picture.And Wreath has grown up with the
Jedi and feeling like that's, you know, the center of the
universe. And it's it's not Aslan's right.

(41:54):
The Jedi are not the only thingsgoing on here.
And Wreath does need to look outside of things.
But I don't like Aslan's motivations.
For, you know, especially because like the last tidbit
that he leaves with Wreath is like something's coming in a
very eerie premonition way that freaks Wreath out and he runs
away. I did like the line.

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It reminded me of the prequels, you know, a bit where he's like,
the Jedi are trying to bring reason to a situation and that
won't work. And because they're trying to do
that, they're missing out on this, like, danger in their own
midst. And it's for like, different
reasons. But that's what happened, right?
To the Jedi and the prequels. They couldn't even see that
Palpatine was right there this whole time because they were so

(42:39):
up their asses about other things and about becoming a
military with the Clone Wars. And it's just interesting to see
that history happened this way prior for different
circumstances. Totally.
Yeah, that was. An intense.
Chapter that was another chapterI was like do I write everything
down as all the Aslan chapters are just.

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Oh my gosh, all of my Wreaths and Aslan chapters are excessive
notes and I I like cut it down South.
It's tough because like, he's going on such an interesting
journey and Aslan is of course such an interesting character
himself. And so between the two of them,
I just want to absorb all the information.

(43:22):
It's so good. But yeah, I don't like this
thought of Wreath knows what he needs to do.
And I'm like, what does that mean?
What does that mean? I know, it's so vague.
And like everything has, yes. Well, we switched gears to
Chapter 19. We are with Master Locks and
Amadeo. They are practicing a new
fighting technique. This one is a little bit

(43:43):
different. It's a maneuver that allows
Amadeo to kind of like be pushed, pushed up and jump over
and into the middle of a bunch of like enemies.
In this case, it's most likely the Nile so that both Amadeo and
Marrow canmore effectively combat that a large group of
enemies. It's like, I like wow, you guys

(44:06):
have the forethought to do this great.
But at the same time I hate the concept of it too.
They are so extra. I do love that they like so much
of their fighting style. Seems to be they are working,
working together so much like physically, obviously generally
he's working together emotionally or whatever, but
it's interesting. It does feel like what?

(44:29):
Are you doing but poor out Mateo, he slips and falls.
He doesn't make the landing and immediately is like really hard
on himself and thinks that he's a failure, all these things.
And so like Meryl comes over, he's like, wow, that was so
great, you did it. That was really.
Miro is so cute, I I wrote. We need to protect Miro at all

(44:49):
costs. Nothing bad can ever happen to
him. I'm not saying anything cuz we
know what happened last time I said something.
Not a word about Miro. I love that they're what did
Miro say? Oh, he goes like, because he he
sees that Amadeo is very upset and he's like, it's OK.

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This is why we're practicing. You have to practice it wrong a
couple times before you get it right.
And sure enough that they practice it again and they get
it right, Precious. Precious I like Wreath came
looking for Amadeo and he was atthe door and like watched this
whole thing and I I just love him being like what?
Like, he's really impressed by it, but he's also like, what?

(45:32):
Wreath, who'd, like, spent most of his life in the archives on
chorus on, you know, it's like such opposite human being.
Let's see, where are we? Yeah.
So Amadeo Miro take a break so that Wreath can tell Amadeo the
new information he found in in the archives.
And when Wreath mentions that hetalked to Aslan about this,
Miro, like, picks up on that andreally asks Wreath, like, can

(45:56):
you tell me more? And like, his whole demeanor
changes and eventually Mira warns Wreath that Aslan really
can't be trusted. He spent too many years in
darkness cessing over the nameless.
And this is like what the warning number?
500. Yes, that wreath has gotten and
I'm deflected because Yoda was like, yeah, talk to Aslan.

(46:19):
And so I'm like, OK, well, maybeyou ought to know something.
And then at the same time, it seems like so many other people
are like, no, don't talk to us. You know, and I will say too, I
feel like the Jedi have a bit ofa problem with infantilizing
their Knights a lot, even thoughthey're putting them in these
very adult situations, right? Even Padawans.

(46:40):
But then they're acting like Wreath isn't strong enough to
like figure these things out. And it's like a.
Point if you trusted. Him enough to make him a knight
when he's, you know, so young orwhatever.
You should trust him to be able to do this.
And if you don't, there's an issue there you need to address.
And so it's driving me crazy howoften they feel they need to
tell him this. And I'm like, I know it's coming

(47:01):
from a good place. I'm just feeling frustration for
Wreath. And totally, totally.
Especially because like, Wreath has no one else to really talk
to about it. Like thankfully Amadeo came and
like helped out but other than that like he has no one to talk
to. Yeah, and I mean, Miro's like,
hey, so next time just don't do that and come talk to me
instead. It's like Miro, you don't know

(47:22):
the situation. I mean, he knows Nameless
because he's been out in the field and stuff.
So like, I get where he's comingfrom.
But again, it's that thing of I don't think Wreath feels the
same about how Miro understands things versus.
Aslan, totally, yeah. And so go ahead.
I was going to say sweet baby wreath, I think is so tired of
this. He just doesn't even argue.
He does. He's like, I don't, you're

(47:44):
right, whatever. And leaves.
And after he leaves, Miros like,hey, so we should really be
there for free, like a lot more than we currently are because
I'm deeply concerned about the pressure he's under.
Which fair. I'm also concerned about the
pressure he's under. But you probably should have
gotten to this point a little earlier.
I know it seems like they're only concerned because of Aslan,

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not because of the pressure to begin with.
Yes, they're concerned about what'll happen with Wreath and
his like Jediness or whatever, and not actually about Wreath as
a person. Absolutely.
Yep. And I'm like, oh, why are you
guys like? This because the dark side is
bad. Dark side bad, Light side good.
Speaking of Dark Side Chapter 20, we are with Sicaris.

(48:30):
This. Bitch.
But this bitch is on thaw. How did he go from oysan to thaw
to thaw so quickly? He is, I don't know, made the
nameless blood is just, it's like a what is that Red Bull
gives you wings? I love this.
Yep, Yep, 100%. Sometimes.

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Well. Really interesting information
about him, right? We do.
Yeah. Yeah, he secret is battling
these old memories of his time as a brother of the 9th dorm.
And I didn't really want write down too many notes about like
all the details there other thanlike going back to his crazy

(49:14):
concept about Jedi being killed by the nameless and how they're
at peace and how like he loves to kill the Jedi and watch their
expression and how they're all the same.
It's very serial killer fee. It is especially because like
the very like the things he's thinking about are being a
brother of the Ninth Door and apparently he could never get to

(49:37):
the point of killing someone andhe always chose mercy.
And it's so interesting to see the Sicarists now who is just
like killing is best for you. How did you get to this point?
This is so random and has nothing to do with anything.
Do we think Sicarus could be a Ptolemy?
I don't know, but I like that idea.

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His like memories when we first met him of like running around
through tunnels was like, are you talking about an ancient
civilization? I, I don't know.
I don't know how this works. I don't know how old Sicarus is.
I don't know if that's even possible, but it could be like
he's a descendant of the Ptolemites or something.
Yeah, I don't know why that got stuck in my head.
It probably doesn't have anything to do with.

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This that's so interesting that got stuck in your head because I
was on a similar vein, but with the ever any because the ever
any killed their planet and we're descendants of like this
thing and though known as planetkillers, I was just like, it's
so like it's very similar to thePtolemites, and I don't really
think at the end of the day, theever any are the Ptolemites, but
what would be so cool if they were?

(50:40):
I don't know, didn't. Even piece that together, but
yeah, they are very like they have the same story almost, and
I didn't even think about that. So good.
Sweet Sicaris. He's like, Oh my God, not
supposed to be thinking about myold life.
And so instead he's like, I'm going to think about this old
Jedi I killed. And the way he like, thinks
about it is interesting because he feels like it happened to

(51:01):
someone else. He's like watching himself dude
things, but it feels like a different person.
And I'm like, yeah, that's because you've got your old you
inside of you still. Like you talked about last
episode being like stop, stop, stop, stop.
And so I'm sure everything he's doing as part of the children,
it feels like a different personbecause it is.
Yeah, I do feel for Sicarus, especially the little Sicarus

(51:25):
that didn't want to kill Pryor and still has connections to the
Brothers of the Ninth Door. It's just like.
Yeah, you feel, I feel bad for that, Sicarus.
Yes, not the one. That this Sicarus is making the
choices. But it's twitchy and it's like,
I love the nameless. We have the same blood and.
He like hits his head to like get the memories away until he

(51:47):
sees Bulens face and it's like Ifeel peace OK man.
I did like this next part where he talks about the special blood
that links him and the nameless together and now I'm starting to
get the impression that the nameless blood actually allows
these force users to hang out with the nameless without being

(52:07):
impacted by them. And I wonder if it's he's not
the one actually doing the husking but but the nameless
are. But he feels like it's him
because of that connection. Yeah, because they're like
family or whatever that. Yeah, I think that's a really
good explanation for it because I know we thought maybe he could
husk, but then we'll see coming up that that's maybe not the

(52:27):
situation and we did see that. Yeah, totally.
And it we've, we've asked about this before, like how are these
four sensitive individuals able to hang out with the nameless?
Like it doesn't make sense we see this.
So like OK well if all of these 4 sensitives all have nameless
blood in them, maybe that's why or how they're able to not be

(52:49):
eaten? I think so.
I think that's super cool. Finally got a semi maybe answer
to. That.
Yeah, totally. This is where I knew it was
somewhere we get more information about these three
nameless with him. What happened to the Sickly 1?
I know well, and it's funny, he says.
Like we've got this one, it's got additional arms attached to

(53:09):
it with talons on the end. That looks human esque.
Yeah, and I was like, who did you chop these off of?
I want to know that too. Is this one of the Jedi that you
killed? Like I don't.
Another one has a metal contraption on its head.
And then he talks about the older 1, and that's the one that
keeps getting like, ignored for feeding time or whatever.

(53:30):
And you were talking about how it's not looking well.
And he says it's going through the transformation that the
older ones go through where theyget a little more feral and a
little more desperate. But when they eat, they're not
actually able to get as much outof it, which is interesting.
And so that's why they become soemaciated.
Well, that's crazy. Yeah.
And so I think your point about like he doesn't see the point in

(53:52):
letting this nameless E if it's going to be kind of waste.
I think that's very accurate based on this chapter.
Oh yeah. And it answers a lot of other
questions that we've had prior about the Nameless and how
emaciated looking that they are,especially in like phase two or
the the leveller got so big but was just so emaciated.

(54:14):
And yeah, I guess it makes sense.
We have mentioned that like they're not getting the correct
sustenance and that they need etcetera.
But I liked seeing it through Secret's point of view.
Yeah. And I'm curious, it's like on
Planet X where they're where they're supposed to be and
eating the things they're supposed to eat.
Like, does this happen much later in their life?
Does this happen at all? Is this how they age naturally

(54:36):
and it's just expedited? Like I just have a lot of a lot
of. Questions about me too.
Well, suddenly Sicaris has access to the gift.
He can sense and smell things that he's never been able to
sense and smell before, and it'sall because of the special blood
that's moving through his veins.So is able to pinpoint the

(54:56):
location of the force user and the hunt begins.
Terrifying. Terrified.
Don't like it? I know, but still kind of like
it. So you're like sitting on this
Cliff side, right? It's.
Super fun and interesting. Yeah, I just imagine that like
majestically on this Cliff, it'slike, you know, the sun is
rising and like. Yeah, What's the way that I like

(55:17):
or both of us probably watch or read horror right where you're
like, yeah, with like a big smile on your face where you're
like, I promise. I'm concerned.
I'm just also having a good time.
Just have a hard time with monster movies because the
monsters are always so cute in my mind.
Oh my God, you got to completelydisconnect yourself because
otherwise you're like, that's not that.

(55:38):
Shark would never. Do you know a shark is just so
hungry he can't eat anything natural in his environment
because it was all fished out bythe humans?
It's like. So this makes total sense, OK.
Yeah, they're taking revenge. All right, so chapter 21, this
is where we do go back to 30 years earlier.
So we're with younger Komak and he's telling Orla about the

(56:02):
advice he got from Master Simicsand how even through that
conversation he's still like, I don't know what to do about this
problem I'm having this little mental block he has, and he
doesn't understand why it's happening so suddenly because in
his mind nothing's has really changed.
But that's not accurate, right? I love Orla's like, oh, of

(56:22):
course things have changed. We have explored the Galaxy, we
have seen how awful people can be to one another, and we have
seen what a huge responsibility it is that the Jedi's role is
in, like, helping to protect these people from all of the
evils and atrocities that exist in the Galaxy.
So of course you're feeling the weight of this responsibility

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and everyone responds to it differently.
Oh, yeah. It's like, yeah, you've grown up
and you've experienced all thesethings, like you're a different.
You are the one who has changed,not the situation necessarily.
And he just wasn't quite gettingthat before.
So I like the way that she verbalized it for him.
Yeah, Orla is so insightful. She knows that Komak will figure

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it out. And she tells Komak that if he
doesn't make the jump and he attempts it, she'll catch him.
Because at the end of the day, Jedi are never alone and that
they are stronger together. Let's hurt my soul, Orla.
You were a real 1. No, I'm so sad.
Same. Well.
Fine. Not sad news.

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Yeah, not sad news. This is enough to make Komak do
the jump and surprise to no one.Maybe surprise to Komak.
He actually. Komak.
Yeah, he's like, oh, I can't jump.
He jumps and makes the crossing of the giant Canyon.
Yeah, because he's stronger withOrla and I was like, George, you

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didn't have to, didn't really need to add that in there, but
you did. You did.
So yeah, I was surprised by thischapter because that flashback
memory was like only a part of the chapter.
I know usually when we go in different times it's a whole
chapter to itself, but that's not how this chapter goes.
No, because we get a now and it's Komak waking up from his

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dream, and he's of course dreaming of Orla and this memory
that we just read about, and he knows that he has to return to
Coruscant because his lack of faith himself was preventing him
from being able to help others. So Komak puts on his pack, gets
ready to leave, looks at the beautiful sunrise and suddenly
doesn't feel well. Yeah, the way my chest just like

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got so tight when this happened.Totally and.
I was like, well, that was it was nice to learn about your
your life before because it's leaving now.
I know. I mean, he thinks that too.
He he picks up on what's happening pretty fast because he
starts to like scream and he's like, I know the Nameless have

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found me. I do like that he still had the
wherewithal to be like have to get back to my ship to survive
because I feel like sometimes they just get so overwhelmed
they don't even try. They just like ball up on the
ground which is fine. Like I get why that happens, but
I liked that he still had that moment of like I need to survive
because I need this information to get to the Jedi.

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I love that so much. And then I also love that we've
been like reading all these likechapters of him like 30 years
prior of how he runs around likea crazy person and what does he
do now? He runs away.
It's like all of that marathon training has come into play in
this very moment. It's like we were wondering what
this whole how this all was going to like fit into the

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current timeline, and here it is.
Oh, Commack I I do have to ruin it a little.
I'm sorry. I can't do anything without
picturing a GIF of some kind GIFwhatever.
And I have a perfect one for himjust running and crying through
like the jungle. And I will share it with you
later because I know you haven'twatched this show.

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I think it's called Broad City and anyone who has watched it.
That little moment where Ilana is like crying and running
through a hallway and that's allI can see in my mind when I run
this. I'm sorry I'm so unserious.
This is a serious. Situation.
That's really funny though when you accurate.

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You're going to laugh. I can't wait.
I can't wait. Well, no surprise to anyone,
because Komak runs and runs and runs to a chasm.
It can't be the Canyon again. Yes.
And it's so good, though, because even though he can't
see, he knows he's at the edge of this chasm.
The Nameless are right behind him.

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He has nowhere else to go. All he can do now, at this
point, is have faith in himself and in the Force.
So he takes that leap of faith and leaps into the chasm.
Wow. Yep.
I was like, surely George doesn't mean enough that we're
going to come back and he'll be like.
And he fell like, I'm really. I was hoping in this moment that

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George gives us a break and he did, just not in the way I
thought it was because we go to Chapter 22 and it's not with
Komak at all. So we just have to put that
aside somehow, the anxiety, and now we get to have anxiety with
Wreath. Instead, poor Wreath.
He's in the in with the Jedi Council.
He's poor thing. Obviously an introvert, doesn't

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like public speaking in any regard, certainly doesn't like
public speaking in front of the Jedi Council.
But here he is preparing himselfmentally to have this talk about
all the things he's learned to the Council.
And I like that we get all the information about the Jedi
Masters that are filing into thechamber, including Avar Chris,

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who's all healed up from her injuries on VIX SF.
And I did like the tidbit that Master Carl is here.
So there's that other nod to she's still alive and has not
left for her adventure to that planet.
What was the name of? That girl, you know, if you
don't remember it, I certainly don't remember.
So was it TVD? I'm.

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Sure, it'll come to me at some point.
Hey, well you're going to literally say the planet name in
the middle of like chapter 25 orso.
Yeah, goodness. So once everyone has arrived,
Yoda addresses the Council, saying they're all here to
discuss the nameless. And they finally addressed Marky
on row, having arrived on Coruscant and.
Thank God me. Too this whole time, like where?

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Where's the talks about mark on row?
I need to hear the gossip. So he talks about how mark your
own row so claim to be the savior of the Blight and how no
one believes him for a minute, especially because Nile is still
raiding. The Blight is still blighting
and spreading. Yeah, I like that they address
that there's just too many things going on at one time and
that the Jedi are really spread thin and are really having a

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hard time focusing on what? Like, what is the bigger picture
here? They have no idea what it is.
Yeah, it was another moment where Yoda, I was like, OK, I
feel you on this one. I get where you're at.
And I'm glad he's here to kind of be this voice of reason
because he's like, I know we're all thinking about all these
different things, but Yoda is sosure they're all connected, just

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like Aretha's. And he's like, if we can
understand the nameless, everything else will fall into
place. I love that.
I especially loved that he said that without the nameless Marky
on ROW is just another warlord and we would have defeated him
like 2 years ago when he first showed up, you know?
Yeah, it's like, I know you can't completely ignore the nigh

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hill in the storm wall situation, but like putting so
many resources into something that's not the main threat at
the end of the day has kind of been at their detriment.
Totally. So they asked Wreath to recount
his nameless research and most of the stuff is stuff that we
already know. But I did like that Wreath talks
about how the Nameless feed on the Force and likely come from a

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planet rich in the Force, where they can feed without upsetting
the balance. But when they're taken from that
habitat, they feed on the next best thing, which is in this
case, a bunch of Jedi. And then Wreath goes on to talk
about the connection to the Blight, the Ptolemites, and how
they eventually defeated the plague.
But Wreath needs more research to prove all of this.

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And that's where we get more information about why they're so
bent on finding a live nameless.Because they know Wreath needs
more research on live nameless in order to like put some of the
like connect some of the dots. Everyone's on board.
No, I like that though, because I'm not, I'm not on board.
I think this is very dangerous. It's a.

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Massive risk and it's one of those where it's like this is
either going to be the ultimate thing that pushes you towards
winning or you're going to all die.
Like those are the options. There's none of the middle here.
I just. Don't understand the idea that
like, oh, let's bring the Nameless to Corusoft.
Yeah, why not? I don't know any other planet.

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Yeah, exactly. I'm, I'm sure some of that has
to do with they're trying to like put a lot of the burden of
this onto the RDC. And so I guess there's a lot of
like, like, well, they're already here.
They have like, you know, resources here or whatever.
But who knows why they are deciding this.
But they do ask Wreath for his opinion, which I really liked.
I did too. And he actually agrees with

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Master Yoda that it's worth the risk, so.
Yeah, I liked his explanation about looking at the anatomy to
try and understand how Marky andRoe can control them.
Interesting thought. I don't know if like looking at
the anatomy would give you thoseanswers, but I don't know.
I've never looked at nameless anatomy, So what do I do?
I'm curious about their brain. I want to see what's going on up

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there. Little pea brain.
I literally was like, if it's just a little peanut, yeah.
Goodness. Yeah, they put it to a vote,
right? And it passes.
So it's happening. So Elzar is going to meet with
Chancellor so about how the Republic can help them with
this, since obviously the Jedi aren't going to be holding it at

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the temple and everyone else is going to work on finding a
target site where they can steala nameless from.
Oh God, yeah, Yep. I know I'm nervous.
This is going to go so well. Obvious.
I especially love that they're talking about how like serious
this is and we know that a bunchof kids are the ones that
captured the nameless. Yeah, I was like, so good.

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It's the serious. You don't seem like you're
taking it that serious, but it'sfine.
Well, the council meeting is over and the Jedi are dismissed.
But before a Wreath can go, a master, right Kisaka pulls him
aside and he tells Wreath how proud he is of him, and he says
that he understands how heavy a burden this all is.

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And this is where we have another person that's like,
well, it's a heavy burden, but also so is it a heavy burden or
do you want to say, don't trust Aslan?
Which is it? Yep, I can't with them
sometimes. My only gripe about this
chapter. Super glad they mentioned that

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Marky on Row had been there and had been like, I can control the
blight and save you. But like in that moment, he's
like holding a flower and it's obviously blighted and it
dissolves and flies off into thewind.
Nobody is. We're not.
Maybe we're not going to. Maybe Mark Monroe like use the
rod to control the blighted flower into nothing.

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Like I don't really understand how much control he has over the
blight with the rod. Can he?
Like to. Fly somewhere.
Somewhere else. None of the Jedi's seem to be
bringing up the fact that particles of blight have been
spread everywhere. Maybe we assumed that it was
Blight and it wasn't blight after all.
But it was blight, right? It's got to be blight and I'm

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just that's what's bothering me is that no one's addressing that
blight just got like blown in the wind all over the place.
Unless they really were just so focused on Mark Yon they didn't
notice. I I don't know, that's the only
thing I was like, why aren't youaddressing that?
There's random blight. Is it because you hope it just
fell to the bottom of chorus on it and you're not going to see

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it for 50 years like? No comment.
I promise this was not a hindsight thing.
I was so irritated by that, but yeah.
I agree. It is what it is.
Again, they are stretched so thin.
I understand that this is what happens when you're stretched
then, right? Is things fall to the wayside
and maybe this is one of those things that quite literally

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slipped through the crack. Whoops, it's going to be fine.
Mystery floating around on a croissant is totally going to be
just great. It's fine, there's so many
levels like, we'll let the bottom layer deal with it.
Yeah, Speaking of bottom layers,Chapter 23, Komak is falling and

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falling and falling and falling over and over.
The plus side about this is thatthe effects of the Nameless are
finally starting to fade. And then he can hear Orla's
voice calling to him. This was such a Rise of
Skywalker moment for me. Yes, you too.
Yes, Orla's calling to him, telling him to reach out to use

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the Force rise. Komak.
Yeah exactly. But it works cuz Komak opens his
eyes and sees this ledge he's about to hit, so he reaches out
to the force to slow down his fall and he tumbles directly to
the edge of that outcropping. I'm really glad he did that
because it seems like if he continued like the chasm is not

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done, it would just continue down.
Yes. So thank you, George, for not
doing what I thought you were going to.
Do I kind of like laughed when Iread this?
I was like, what if he just felllike 50 feet?
That's. Where my brain was because I'm
just too traumatized. And the the nameless and the
Sicaris or just like there you are.
Well. He's paralyzed on the bottom now

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we can get him like, yeah. So I'm glad that's not how this
is going. We do find out some interesting
information, which I love this so much.
There's he knows that there's ancient catacombs all over this.
Yeah, I love a good catacomb. So.
Cool, and he knows if he can navigate through him through

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them. Girl, I haven't had any dinner.
You know, my brain is running on0 power right now besides the
force, and if he can navigate through those catacombs, his
ship is just on the other side of this.
Like whatever, whatever. Yeah, it's awesome.
Yeah. So he runs through the catacombs

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and he looks into one of the alcoves and he sees, like, the
where the old remains were left.And he notices that the bones
were so old and brittle that they had turned to dust.
And it kind of reminds him of nameless husking.
Part of me is like what if they were husked and we do see just a
bunch of like old hust remains. I mean, maybe that's where they

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took all of the people that might have died from
encountering nameless, like, whoknows.
Totally. Well, unfortunately, Komak is
really struggling to breathe andhe can't get air.
He stumbles and falls and he hits his head so badly.
And of course, like he gets up and like, the first thing he
sees is his figure ahead of him.And at first he thinks it's

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wreath, but suddenly it like becomes clearer that it's Orla.
And for a moment I was like, Oh my God, is this force ghost Orla
Gereni? I was really excited for about
.2 seconds. Yes.
But that's what was happening. But it was not.
It was not. This Orla is like angry

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screaming pointing at him. And then in this wonderfully
horrifying moment, he sees more figures just like coming out of
the dark and it's all these Jedifrom his past.
And I know what's happening hereat this point because at first I
was like, oh, he hit his head. He's having a little moment.
But now he's so afraid that he like can't control it anymore.

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And he knows the nameless are inthe tunnels with.
Him. Oh my God, I was so devastated.
I was like, no, he got away. Close.
Yes Oh my God I also hated this description where Komak is like
clawing at his face. It gave me such Aslan vibes.
Yeah, to the point he's bleedingawful.
You have to be so terrified and out of your mind to do something

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like that. And he is.
And the other worst part is he hears sickness in the tunnels
and he hears him command the nameless to like, slow down,
chill, we're all going to share situation.
I was like, oh, how horrifying must that be for Commack?
Yeah, Commack is like, this is it?
And he kind of like stumbles andlike this is one of those
moments where like the force wasdefinitely with Commack in this

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moment because he falls again, the ground beneath him
completely collapses and he's going down.
Except for this time, like I feel like it's a much more
narrow, like, passageway, and he's like scraping against all
the rocks and hitting his head and like he's not going to look
very pretty when this is all done.
No. And I mean, it's so kind of

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ridiculous to him that he he almost thinks it's just the
experience of the nameless and like they're sucking the life
force out of him and this is howit's manifested.
It's not until he like hit stuffand gets on the floor of
whatever this like passageway isthat he's like shit.
Yeah, and like, Komak can finally, like, hear the Jedi

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hunter above him screaming so angrily.
And Komak just gets up and begins running again.
And luckily, he sees a light at the end of the tunnel, quite
literally, and runs straight through the catacombs.
I didn't expect this to happen. Komak is so lucky.

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He is. And this was such an anxious
part of the story. And every time I was like, this
is it, this is it, It's happening like goodbye.
And then it just keeps like the force so obviously wants him to
make it. And it made me really happy that
it's finally working out. One thing is working out.
Yay. Go, Komak.

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Yeah, Komak finds the ship, runsinside, begins to navigate
towards Coruson. And he's like, oh, I wonder
what's down below me? And he looks down and sees the
Jedi hunter just crawling out ofthe catacombs, too.
He barely made it. I feel like that Jedi hunter was
maybe like just like I. Feel like I feel like.
Steps behind him totally. Yep, I I was still anxious even

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when he got to a ship. Absolutely, it was interesting
that he looks down and only seesthe Jedi hunter.
In my mind, I feel like if the Nameless are far enough away and
are not impacting the Jedi, do you feel like they could see
them? I think maybe it's just After
Effects because he's like, now he's had like two different very

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strong reactions to the namelessin these situations.
And I wonder if his mind is justso like all over the place.
He's just not going to be able to see them.
And I mean, he says like he doesn't even want to close his
eyes and go to sleep on his rideback because he's afraid of what
he's going to see. Oh my God, I don't blame him.
That's going to be a long journey back to Coruscant
though. He isn't.
He like way out of the outer edges of the Galaxy.

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He's like. Wild yes, and he like fell and
hurt himself like his body is physically not OK.
He almost scratched his own eyesout like.
He probably has a concussion, yes.
Yeah. Oh yeah, like he is unwell.
I hope he has a Bach to tank on board, but I have doubts.
Maybe he has whatever that Droidgave for Nestra that heals him

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in less than a day. The expedited stuff, oh man,
Well, with that. Chapter 24.
Wait 24. Right.
And did I get it wrong again? Did I get it wrong?
I did. I wrote chapter 23.
We're doing so great today. This is awesome.
We're doing amazing. That's okay.
We just balanced each other out so it's like none of it ever

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happened. I did get really excited cuz
Wreath is down in the tunnels under the Jedi Temple and I was
like yes more catacomb. I know when I first was reading
this chapter I thought Wreath was like having visions of Komak
but didn't realize that he was. But yeah, we immediately find
out that he is underneath the Jedi Temple.

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Yeah, which still cool. Still cool.
That would have been cool too. But I started to get really
nervous right away though, because he feels so off the
further down he's going, and hismovements are jerky and sounds
are feeling muffled. And I was like, Oh my God, Is
this the Nameless? Like what he's about to find,
but he also feels this weirdly like inviting feeling, like he's

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supposed to be coming and he's being welcomed into the space
even though his body is so obviously rejecting it and so.
Kind of like. They're nameless down there,
just like siren singing to wreath right now.
I don't. I love that.
I kind of took it as like the darkness of the Sith temple,
like calling to him. And I was really nervous because

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he just had that conversation with Aslan and Aslan telling
Wreath that he knew exactly whatto do.
And now Wreath is having this like semi vision dream thing
where the darkness is beckoning to him.
And I got really bad vibes from this whole thing.
Yeah, I probably shouldn't go down to a Sith temple, but
whatever. He's there.

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He's in darkness. But like, in this moment, he can
still see, which is already freaky.
And he knows he's at something called the Shrine of the Depths,
which is the ancient Sith templebuilt on the virgins of the
forest level of love that the Jedi were like, OK, we can fix
this. We just plop ourselves right on
top of it and it'll cancel out. It's totally fine.
I know, yeah. This is oh, let's go ahead.

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I was going to say this next part where Wreath like is being
called to the temple and he opens up the door and inside he
sees a figure. There's long hair and the
figures emaciated and very old looking and has no eyes.
I was like, oh, it's Aslan. Aslan is calling to Wreath,
right? Yeah, which makes total sense.

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No, it's it's Wreath. What is Wreath going to be like,
Aslan? I know I was like, oh, is this
our like warning that this is the path he's heading on is.
Totally. Almost towards the dark side a
bit. Whether he makes it like all the
way there or not, who knows. But yeah, Reef is also horrified
by this because he screams himself awake.
So thankfully up until this point, I wasn't, I thought this

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might be real. I wasn't sure.
And so I was like, oh, thank God.
Oh I know. It seemed like a a dream vision
to me. I couldn't tell if he was
meditating or if it was a true dream, but I was very grateful
to see that it was indeed not reality for now.
Well, for now, yeah. Until he's like, well, now I

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have to go down there and I'm like, maybe.
Do we though? Right.
It's like, what if we didn't go follow the noise in the dark?
But he does go get a friend, andthat friend is Renestra Rowe.
Loved this. Me too.
Yeah. Wreath finds Vernestra in the
meditation chamber. She also is having a hard time
sleeping because every time she closes her eyes, she feels like

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something is trying to get her attention.
This is where I go. Yeah.
It's Mari Santeca who's trying to remind her about how she
needs to go follow the path to Planet X.
It's like, remember that time I've tried to tell you?
Mari has talked to Vernestra five times.
Ernestra, get your shit together.
Whatever, in this moment I'm glad Vernestra is here, because
otherwise Wreath would just haveno one to go with him down into

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the scary Sith temple. Yeah, I did like how she handled
this. Because when he tells her like
there's something in the Shrine of the Depths, he tells her
about the vision. I wanna go down there.
And she's thinking that Aslin has gotten into his head.
And so she is concerned about the situation, but Wreath is
also trusting her with this, with what is a very emotional

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situation. And so she's almost like a
parent who's like, I'll go checkthe closet.
Totally not a monster in there, just to make him feel better.
She wants him to see that nothing's wrong.
Yeah. And so she's like, of course,
I'm going to go with you. We'll put your mind at ease for
sure. Not going to find a monster in
the. Closet yes, well, I did like

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that chapter 25 was a continuation of the story and
Vernestra are walking through the tunnels beneath the Jedi
Temple and this was another moment where I was like, is are
these temple? Is the Sith shrine just open for
everyone? Like can all Jedi just like
waltz down there? Like is it the hubris in this
moment of the Jedi not concernedabout the Sith ever coming back

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or is it I don't know. It's so bizarre.
Yeah, it is. It seems like there should be
like a padlock or something. I don't.
Know a temple guard at the minimum.
Literally anything other than just free walk in it.
Totally. Well, they talk about Aslan.
Bert Astra thinks it's dumb to keep Aslan at the Jedi Temple,
and she tells Wreath that she doesn't think Aslan is actually

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being very helpful. Valid points, I agree.
But again, this is like another Jedi telling Wreath that Aslan
is not great. So yeah, I'm curious to see what
he does with this. Yeah.
I mean, at this point though, he's kind of like whatever,
whatever we're going down to thehe's like got this singular
focus, right? And he is just not concerned

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with that at the moment. And he's like, I, I need to get
down here. And he gets to a certain spot
and recognizes it from his vision.
And so his response to that is to light his Saber.
And this is the point where Vernestra's like, oh, shit, this
is making me feel almost afraid.Not afraid, but like, worried
about what is going on in his mind, I guess.

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But at the same time, now that she's in this situation and he's
like, stay alert, something's wrong, she actually feels it
too. That's so crazy.
It is, and the way she describedit was so good, which is that
the force feels sour. Did you know what was happening?
I did not. I did not either.

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I I was pretty like this dark side.
Well, I thought maybe the council was keeping a nameless
down here or like Yoda knew there was a nameless down there,
but nobody else did. And I, I don't know, I was kind
of on the nameless down there track and that Yoda just didn't
want to admit he already had onedown the like.

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I really had no real idea but this made me like Oh my God what
is this? It's intense, this whole chapter
is so intense. So they walk towards the Sith
temple. They even though the, the force
feels sour, they're still going to investigate it.
And they had to where the, to the shrines inner sanctum, which
is where the Jedi placed dangerous artifacts to then be

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purified. And this is where I was like
trying to speculate what the heck's down here?
And this is where I was like, Ohmy God, the other rod is down
here. They found it and placed it in
here. That would be amazing.
Right, whatever. But then this next description
of how Wreath gets this overwhelming feeling of
loneliness, but also feels like there's a strength to it too.

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And there's a raw power of the dark side calling like a sirens
call. I know.
And Vernestra feels it like calling.
Something's calling out through the forest, and it's dying and
angry. And I was like, Oh my God, Oh my
God. And they reached the doors of
this inner sanctum. And they know that it's like

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right beyond these doors, this is the moment they're going to
find out what is here. So Vernestra lights her Saber
because she's like, all right, I'm on board with this now.
Things are not good. Everyone's freaked out this
moment. Yeah, it's like, OK, we're all
on board now. Yeah, they all the kind of three
open the doors together and theydo so.

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And at the very end of the room is something I did not at all
expect. And it's the Blight.
It's here on Coruscant. Under the Jedi Temple.
Right under the Jedi Temple, which makes sense because they
were talking about how the Blight follows force rich
planets and I forgot that Coruscant had a vergence of the
force right there on it. Yeah, the Jedi wanted everyone

(01:24:45):
to forget too. It's like.
Those Jedi are meddling with my brain again.
I know this maybe was obvious tosome people.
I didn't have this in my head atall.
No, I'm I was thinking about Mark and rose blighted flower.
Yeah, we went through like everyother thing it could be besides
the play. This is when Vernestra freaks

(01:25:06):
out and she's like back up, backup, back up.
Cuz she knows like, oh God, thisis a bad situation.
And like there's dust flying up too.
And I'm sure she's afraid like this is the blight coming up and
we're going to inhale it or whatever.
So she's like, Oh my God, we can't let it out of the shrine.
And it's like, girl, how you, how you gonna do that?
So she's like, we got to go. I got to go straight to the

(01:25:28):
council, tell them what's up. And she's like, your research is
so important more than ever right now because they need
answers before it gets passed the doors of the shrine.
This thing travels really fast though.
It does, and it travels faster over certain things.
Yes. And I'm like, you mean like
where the force is the strongest?

(01:25:50):
Yeah. And you have a bunch of Sith
artifacts just sitting there. I know I'm worried about the
artifact. They're worried.
Too. They're angry and sad.
Right. I do like, though, that wreath,
it kind of calls back to like what Aslan said, where he's
like, you know what you need to do.
Wreath in this moment knows exactly what he has to do.
And they like hurry up the stairs to go do their thing.

(01:26:11):
And I was like wreath, wreath, wreath.
But this is another one of thosemoments where I was like, Aslan
knew the Blight was here. For sure.
He did that guy again. I know I want to adjust some
time. Well, Chapter 26, we're back
with Kerr's severed hand. I've missed it.
It's been a minute. And he's in his lab looking at

(01:26:32):
it, wondering if somehow they can contain a room the way
they've contained the hand. But like, how would that even
work? And he knows, like, maybe that's
just not an option. And here's the knock on the
door. And I think he thinks it's
probably Amadeo, you know? But then when he goes to open it
and looks up, he sees this man looking real rough.

(01:26:52):
Just got bruises and gashes on his face and like super dirty.
He's like who is this man? He's probably.
Almost unrecognizable in this moment.
I agree, and especially like Wreath, never expected this
person to come back. Which, yeah, that to it too.
Exactly. It's like he didn't even have in
his mind this was a possibility.Yeah.
But he eventually wreath eventually figures out that it's

(01:27:15):
Komak. He is so stunned and is really
struggling to like form thoughtsand sentences or what to say.
And Komak is like, can I come in?
And Reed's like no. I was like, good for you, wreath
boundaries. I know, but that's not what he
meant. He just was like, you gotta put
a suit on me. But Reese is like, I don't think
that the one Almadeo wears will fit you, so let me get out of

(01:27:36):
here. So.
Yeah, Wreath exits. Yeah.
And that way they can eventuallytalk.
And Komak just starts apologizing and word vomiting
that he should have reached out earlier.
And there's just so much to tellWreath but didn't feel like he
was ready. And this is where Wreath talking
about boundaries. I love this for Wreath because

(01:27:57):
Wreath was just like, stop. Yeah, Yeah.
And they changed the subject to why is Komak here?
And Komak explains that he was also searching for answers about
the Nameless and how he had found a lead on where Tolis had
been. I like this.
Other thing too was that Comec believes that the Ptolemites had

(01:28:19):
left their knowledge in a repository.
Yes. And that all they have to do is
find this. Yes, I love this.
It's the. Same.
Like 1? I don't know actually, I didn't
look up what a repository is. It is like a big item.
Is it small? I assumed A repository was a
reference to, like a library of sort.

(01:28:40):
Okay. But specifically for like
keeping information on a certaintopic or culture I guess.
But I don't actually know what the definition of.
Repository. So it's not like a data pad.
That's like yay big. That's not where my brain was.
I'm gonna laugh if it's like an Acme safe or something, but

(01:29:02):
yeah, this is so funny for Wreath to discover again that
they've been on the same path. This whole time, you know.
And Wreath eventually asked why Komak is so beat up.
And when Komak tells Wreath thathe encountered nameless, Wreath
kind of looks at Komak and then gives him a big hug and tells
him he's so sorry. Oh, Wreath.

(01:29:23):
Yeah, and I guess we do find out.
Komak already told Elzar about this so that he could start
getting the council together andeverything, but he wanted Wreath
to hear it from him. I love that.
So I'm glad he came down and didthis and now they can go to the
council and figure out what the heck they're going to do.
Yeah, I'm so excited to see thiswhere it goes.
You got Komak, who's out in the field and Wreath, who's like

(01:29:46):
archives guy and. And blight.
Blight. Oh yeah.
Well, with that, our final chapter for today, Chapter 27,
Master Locks is taking Amadeo tothe Jedi Council Chambers for an
emergency meeting after Gomac showed up.
And I guess this is Amadeo's first time in the Council
chambers, I think they said. So he was kind of like what's

(01:30:08):
happening. And boy, what a meeting to have
as your first one. I agree, this is so intense.
There's a ton of masters there that can obviously the council
reef Komak and Yoda starts the meeting to be like, all right,
we got to listen to what Komak has to say.
And so he tells them all about his encounter with the Nameless.
And they also know now that he has this map of Tolis, and he

(01:30:34):
proposes that he and Reef go there right away to recover the
Ptolemites cultural archive. Love is not.
Expecting that, but I love it. I wasn't either.
I was totally imagining like both of them would like chat in
the laboratory or at the archives and be like, hey,
you've your field guy, I'm archives guy, let's like have a
meeting and go from there. But I love this concept of both

(01:30:57):
Wreath and Komak going out to find tolas.
It's so. Great.
It is. And I kind of thought Komak was
going to do this, but it was more going to be like, I wanted
you to have this information. FYI, I'm going to find Tolis.
I didn't expect him to be like, I want to be on a mission
sanctioned by the Jedi with another, with a Jedi.
Like, that's just not where I thought he was.

(01:31:19):
And so I'm so proud of him that through all these experiences,
he's gotten to this point. Yeah, it's so great.
And I especially really love theJedi's reception to Komak.
You know, Master Yoda goes, thisis our friend Master Komak.
And even the Komak's like, oh, no, I'm not part of the Jedi
anymore, But they're still like,OK, well, respectful.
And they're like, OK, Master Komak says this.

(01:31:39):
And Master Komak is that. I know I loved that they could
have been like, this is the degenerate.
And instead they were very like nice about it.
And I, and I really liked that. Hopefully it made Komak feel a
little less like panicky. But they do ask Reef, like Reef
do you wanna? And even though this poor baby
boy is so overwhelmed with what's happening, he agrees to

(01:32:01):
go. And so everyone takes a vote.
And they also agree that this iswhat should happen.
And not only that, oh God, but they should hire AFY and friends
to charter their trip there. Remember that talk about
responsibilities being too much?Yeah, it turns out it was all
for not because I have a feelingthey will accept.

(01:32:22):
Yeah, I agree. But I am excited to see them on
a joint mission again, going outto go do cool things.
It's gonna go great, right? Nothing.
For sure, for sure. And even more than that, there's
a second mission that's going tobe going on.
Right, I can't believe the second mission.
Oh my God. So they change the subject about
how sending one crew to go capture nameless is not enough,

(01:32:45):
they need to send out another crew.
And not only that, I guess they have a holding facility on
planet that it's almost done. I also hate that.
But anyways, so they have this whole plan to work with the RDC
to capture the nameless, hold itin the ship that is being held
in the hold of another ship so that it doesn't affect the Jedi.
They're thinking. And they found this Nile base on

(01:33:05):
Angoth where they believe a nameless is being held for Jedi
hunters. And they're like, does anyone
want to volunteer? And Miro Locke says yes, he
does. Not just Miro, though.
I was like, Miro, what are you doing, baby?
Because then he's like, oh, but I want to take Amadeo with me.
Sir, But he does ask for his opinion, or rather the Council

(01:33:26):
asked Amadeo's opinion. And I mean, it's an awkward
situation to put. He's a Padawan, right?
Yeah, Padawan, he's. Never going to say no in this
situation. No, his first Jedi Council
meeting and it's super serious and they asked him to go on this
crazy mission. Of course he's going to say yes,
but I hate it. Man, So yeah, it's going to be

(01:33:46):
Amadeo, Master Locks and Master Caro, right along with there's
going to be like a mercenary situation happening, a combat
Droid, RDC, medical officers, volunteers.
Like there are a lot of people going to kind of buffer the name
wasn't Jedi situation, but. Well, Master Carl's on her own
mission, right? Oh, is she?
She already this? Oh wait, did I mess that up?

(01:34:08):
I always get the two Jedi Masters mixed up.
Is Master Carl the one that diedor is this another one?
Oh, I thought this was another one, but I mean.
It's another one. Be wrong.
I think I'm wrong, actually. Hold on, Hold on.
Phase three. Beware the nameless.
What is that woman's name? Yeah, it's Master Karo is the
one who goes with Zenni and the other younglings.

(01:34:28):
Oh shit, who? Why did I write this?
Because it's very confusing and multiple missions to go collect
nameless or happen to get the same time.
Apparently for myself editing just delete the shit out of OK.
Amadeo and Master Locks are going to be going with this
whole team of people from the RDC that are going to help them
and kind of be the buffer between them and the nameless.

(01:34:49):
Surely nothing's going to go wrong in this mission either.
Yeah, I have a feeling the next chapters we read might get a
little intense because now we have multiple missions going.
Oh my God, I know there's so much happening it's crazy but
it's so good. I loved it.
This section was amazing. Honestly wonderful.
And I am curious to see how Wreath and Komak on this mission

(01:35:13):
together are going to like hopefully repair their
relationship a little bit or at least not confront each other,
but like have an honest conversation about what
happened. And then maybe we can heal a
little bit from it and come backto like, obviously he's
traumatized. So I'm really looking forward to
that relationship in particular and how this mission together is
gonna affect. Yeah, I'm curious about that.

(01:35:36):
And I'm also curious about what happens to Wreath when he has
some time away from Aslan. Like, does he start to, like,
see some of the patterns and recognize that maybe they're not
as good, or maybe recognize thatall the Jedi are a little bit
too wound up, like Aslan was saying?
I don't know. I'm kind of curious to see.
And like, what's Aslan's reaction going to be to this

(01:35:58):
news? Is he going to be happy or mad?
I don't know. I don't even want to say that,
but I'm deeply nervous that Sicarus is going to find out.
They're going to toll it. I'm so scared.
Yeah, that's totally true. But you know what we're going to
in the next chapter series. That is all for this episode

(01:36:20):
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