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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, today I bring you three very
special guests Sheridan andBecca Halfacre, as well as
Thomas Doyle.
Between the three of them, theyown three businesses in the
central North Carolina area Afirearms gunsmith retail
location called RacketbackArmory, as well as a t-shirt and

(00:20):
screen printing company, aswell as embroidery, called Reba
Elite Apparel and a airsoftfield called the Archangel
Battle Park, located right herein central North Carolina.
All three of them long-term,long-time friends of mine.
We we've kind of done a lot inthe business world together.
We've done a lot on the, youknow, across Magic the Gathering

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together.
We've done.
We've done a lot together and Iwanted to bring them to you.
They're Bitcoin-friendlybusinesses, they are ready and
willing to accept Bitcoin, theysupport Bitcoin, they support
small business, they supportCentral North Carolina and
overall they're just a real goodgroup of friends and business
people.
So enjoy the episode.

(01:03):
We appreciate any feedbackanyone may have.
So if you have comments or ifyou want to reach out to the
group, just find the links inthe show notes and enjoy the
show.
A quick round of introductionsThree people I know very well.
I'm going to call them Halfacre, doyle and Becca, but they all
have proper names.

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I'm going to call them Halfacre, doyle and Becca, but they all
have proper names Sheridan,thomas Doyle or Sheridan.
Halfacre, thomas, doyle andBecca, halfacre the better half
of Sheridan.
They all are in their own kindof business world.
They all participate and workunderneath, kind of the same.
I guess you might say group orconglomerate, because they all
work together, kind of the same.

(01:44):
I guess you might say group orconglomerate because they all
work together.
But Half Acre, doyle, becca,all run a gunsmithing business,
they run a t-shirt company andthey have some not paintball, I
was going to say paintball, butno airsoft-related businesses.
So they're all here in AlamanceCounty, correct, right?
The shop is in Alamance, itdoesn't cross the Orange County

(02:05):
line.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Technically we're like two blocks away from Orange
County.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
The shop is in Alamance and the field is in
Alamance.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
So, Alamance County.
Everybody we've had on so farhas at least been in connection
with Alamance County.
We haven't had any OrangeCounty folk on yet.
I have invited some.
They have not responded,probably because they see
Bitcoin in the title and justdelete the email.
But let's start off with themost complicated one, right, at

(02:32):
least I would imagine the mostcomplicated one, the gun one.
The gunsmithing business youhave is not just gunsmithing,
you also have retail stuff youhave license to.
I don't want to misspeak here,oh, go ahead.
License to sell automaticweapons to no.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
So we have an 0702, 07 being the type of FFL that is
a manufacturer, which means wecan manufacture things called
GCA items or just standardfirearms we can manufacture
things called GCA items or juststandard firearms and an O2 SOT,
which allows us to manufacturemachine guns.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
SOT stands for Special Occupational Tax.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, so Is a specific legal category, if you
wanted to get, say, ashort-barreled rifle or a
suppressor or something likethat.
That's an NFA item.
You have to pay a $200 taxstamp and that's your $200 item.
Um, you have to pay a 200 taxstamp and that's your 200 stamp
for the rest of your life.
Um, we have to pay 500 annually, but it allows us to make as
many nfa items as we want.

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So we can't sell um automaticfirearms, but we can rent them
out I got you so you guys couldmake one.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
rent it out.
Let people shoot it Correct,have fun with it.
What have you?
You just can't let it leaveyour possession.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Exactly that's from an ownership perspective.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes, that was part of the wedding right, correct?
I know that we shot guns, butthat activity was legal because
of that, correct?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
That documentation that you had licensed.
I had the proper licensing.
I had the proper licensing.
I had the proper people presentfor that to happen.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah.
So what's business been likefor the gun industry at your new
location?
Previously you were out ofrange, Now you're in downtown
Mebane.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
What's it like now?
It's been up and down.
How long has it been sinceyou've been there?
Two years.
We moved in October 22.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
22?
.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, and it took us about six months or so to get
all of the paperwork in orderfor the move or the new location
updated.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Especially with the ATF paperwork.
Yeah, ATF stuff just took thelongest yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
And other than that, we've just been rocking it since
what march?
When's the dogwood festival?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
we had a grand opening during, not last, not
this year's dogwood festival,but last year's dogwood festival
in 2023, which was april 21styeah, we had a.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
We had a soft opening a couple months before that and
then the grand reopening duringthe dogwood.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I'm gonna throw something out there real quick,
just to make sure it's out thereand everybody knows there's
maybe a little political earlyon, but whatever.
Uh, the atf is evil and needsto be abolished and appeal the
nfa what um?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
do you find that mevin is friendly towards the
business that you have?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
it depends on on who's approaching.
So, um uh, for me, big bearded,angry man that doesn't like to
talk very much no, absolutelynot.
Just in general, people tend toshy away from me because I try
not to outspeak, I try not totalk too much and I'm just.
I guess I look intimidatingbetter than I would, it's

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definitely the beard, Now thatwe've got Becca involved they're
a whole lot more receptive tous.
She's just got that retailbrain.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I'm also the people person.
I'm the smile kind of thing.
People come through.
I'm happy to greet them, I'mhappy to talk to them, I'm happy
to make them feel comfortable.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Very, very stereotypical Half an hour.
The detail guys, the mechanicalguys, the fricking the, the
machinist type guys.
Becca knows the people, thecustomer service, the
interactions, the, the personaltouch, all that kind of stuff,
yep yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
But like from a from the standpoint of politically,
is Mebane okay with you guys.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Not particularly.
No, yeah, just Mebane,specifically Because you are
within the city limits so you dohave to deal with the city.
We've ran into a couple issues.
A lot of the business ownersthemselves tend to be pretty
cool with us.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, they're pretty excited that we're there Local,
I'm sorry, vocal minority tendto be tend to say a lot of how
do they come after you, Likewhat have you run into it's
usually on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, they talk shit on Facebook, like social media
accounts.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
We currently have a couple people who, no matter
what we post, they'll go andreport it.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Just because it's on the Mevin pages, right.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah and no matter.
So the way Facebook reportingworks is you cannot find out who
reports you.
There's just no way to figureit out.
And in order for them to juststop bots from auto flagging
everything that comes out or youpaying a dollar amount for auto

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flagging, it has to be first AIreviewed and then like,
actually reviewed, and AIs nevergo with what we say.
They just see a gun orsomething roughly firearm shaped
and automatically flag it forthe next level and meta is very

(07:41):
anti-gun, so they tend to.
They tend to automatically sidewith things Like we'll have
things that are not for sale andjust say come check us out and
that'll get flagged.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Because we have pictures of firearms.
That's our side, but her side'sgreat.
Oh, like the.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
T-shirt side.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, the T-shirt side.
So, like officially, june 1stof this year, it's been an
entire year since we purchasedthat screen printing shop.
Originally, that shop was ownedby Jay Starnes, who runs Fat
man and His Food, when it waslocated on Clay Street, and he
had that there for years.

(08:21):
I think he moved into thebuilding we're in now like 2018,
2017, somewhere in there, um,and he sold the business to a
gentleman named andy.
Um, he was a full-timefirefighter.
Uh, he ran that for like twoyears and sold it to us.
So, yeah, it's been an officialyear.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's crazy to think about all year yeah, I remember
when, when you were buying it,like yeah, into the process and
oh, that was terrifying emptyingyour savings account yeah,
emptied, emptied my all.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I sold all my bitcoin yeah emptied all my savings and
convinced her to empty hersavings as well.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I tell people all the time, like, if you're going to
sell your bitcoin, make surethat it's for something yeah,
not like, not because you wantsomething, not because you're
buying something, but you'remaking a life-changing.
Like if you said I've got$100,000 in debt and you're
sitting on $100,000 in BitcoinLife-changing.
There is a Sure maybe in fiveyears that'll be $500,000.

(09:19):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
But if you let that debt sit there, you may owe
$500,000.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
You can change your life.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Maybe it's worth it, especially if you're somewhat
knowledgeable or you'reexperienced in the Bitcoin world
and you can get more.
If somebody gave you like$10,000 in Bitcoin and you sold
it to pay off your debt, that'sone type of person.
But if you accumulated thatover time, you understood what
you were doing and you knew that, hey, now it might be a good

(09:49):
time to sell, because the waythe market is and I'll buy some
more later and you're selling itto specifically change your
life, then, yeah, maybe it's agood idea.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
You make me want to buy bitcoin just to get rid of
debt.
Well, actually, yeah, it'sfunny you say that because we've
been talking about it so much.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Um, I actually logged into my, my stash account.
Just like you know, I don'thave any bitcoin right now, but
let's see what my other, thestuff, the other things I've
invested in are are doing.
Um, so that was uh, it was justfunny.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
You mentioned investing and all that well,
bitcoin will always be, I think,at least until something
drastically changes.
If it ever does, uh, willalways be something that I'm
probably messing around with,but what I found is that, even
when I thought I was deep inbitcoin, I wasn't yet oh well,
like seriously, like I boughtthat boat, you know yeah, yeah,

(10:32):
and I was like I'm gonna buy acheap boat and just get it
running and put it on the lakeand then now I'm like I should
have never bought that damn boatI should have bought some
fucking

Speaker 3 (10:39):
bitcoin like this is ridiculous.
When was the last time you?

Speaker 1 (10:42):
brought that thing out.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I never brought it out it's still sitting in the
same place I parked it oh, noshoot.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
But I mean, that's typical redneckery, right?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I gotta have at least one vehicle in my possession
that doesn't work properly.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I was actually talking to, um, a new sort of
business partner that we have umyou I don't think you've met
him, but his name's eric corda.
He actually you met him at thedogwood, um, and I was telling
him how, like yeah, human beings, man, we're gaseous.
We're gaseous creatures, likehow gas works, we expand to fill
whatever volume that we're in,and that's just how people work

(11:12):
with money, like.
So, like hey, you've goteverything, all your ducks, in a
row.
Everything makes sense with$40,000 a year, you can make it,
everything's fine.
And then you get that, you knowthat, that upgrade, and you're,
you're, now you're, you're at$75,000 a year.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, Now you got a different lifestyle.
Now you have a differentlifestyle.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Now you're going to have, you know yeah, yeah, would
you have like financial creep?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, lifestyle creep , financial creep.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
And I and I specifically.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Hey, it is summertime , yeah, well it runs.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
but the problem is the starter.
Remember I told you guys, thebolt that screws, that holds the
starter on Mm-hmm, that bolt,the hole that it threads into
that hole is stripped.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
So the starter will spin and the motor will start to
turn over.
But all of the gyration thatthe motor and starter go through
during that process immediatelypulls the starter off of the
little gear that starts it, andso I've got to fix that.
Uh, the the bottom end of theof the motor, where the um
propeller and everything is theguts of that need to be rebuilt

(12:17):
because a leaky seal and it'sgot seawater in it so it's got a
number of problems.
I should sell.
That's just what it boils downto.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I should have never bought it.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
But now I'm like oh, I got to spend $40 on something.
I'm like maybe I could just buyBitcoin instead.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Just do that instead We'll call it good, we'll
pretend like we did it.
That's the cool part aboutgetting old.
You kind of start to like oh, Iknow a guy.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, so let us take a look.
Well, yeah, I mean you guys cantake a look at it.
This reminds me of this bookthat I'm reading right now,
something that I immediately,when I read it, I was like I've
got to talk to these guys duringthe podcast about it and it's
unrelated to the gun side.
We'll get back to that.
But there was a point inhistory that the author at least

(13:05):
proposes.
The reason that people neverunderstood probability or
calculated risk before, say, theyear 15, 1400, somewhere around
there, was in large partbecause the future was left to
the will of the fates and luck.
You couldn't influence it, sothinking about it was not even a

(13:26):
concept you could really handle.
Right, you couldn't evengenerate that concept because it
wasn't in your control anyway.
And he presents it in a waythat basically describes when
your life is tied to repeatingcycles such as winter, spring,
summer, fall, harvest, plantchurch, no church.

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All these repeating cyclesthere is no future to look to
because you already know thatit's not in your control and you
can't stop spring, you can'tstop winter, so there's no
planning for that andmathematically, this was all
before the number zero wasreally discovered, so before
zero was very difficult to makefinancial calculations because
you're writing out romannumerals or you could only count

(14:11):
to.
You know a certain limit, uh,like zero to nine or one to nine
.
You couldn't just hop into 10,you didn't understand decimal
places.
So calculating out like complexalgebraic formulas were
possible, but the average personcouldn't do it because, like
what's the number 1242 in Romannumerals?
Yeah, it's just becomes verydifficult to do, like weird

(14:33):
translations, and I'm only likethree or four chapters into the
book.
But when I read that I was likethat's interesting.
People couldn't think about thefuture because they just didn't
believe that it was even withintheir control.
And I tie that back to Bitcoin.
I would question that a littlebit.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Because at the time you said up to like $1,400,
$1,500?
.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, zero was invented before that, but up
until $1,400 or $1,500, we nevertried to mathematically
calculate risk in order toenhance decisions in the future?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, but people would make long-term plans at
the time.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Oh yeah, An excellent example of that is a cathedral.
How many years did it take tomake the pyramid of Giza?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, but you're not thinking you're only thinking in
the, in the terms of somethingthat's already happening.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Right, you know that the cathedral is happening
because it's already being built, yeah, but whoever started the
building had to plan that out,and often most cathedrals took
like 100 plus years to build.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, but this is more referencing the average
person.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
like the regular person, Somebody's not planning
cathedrals yeah, maybe theaverage peasant or something.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
And he also said that after the number zero it made
it to where riches no longerexclusively came from either the
church or from government, thatit was possible to build a
business, because you couldforecast, you could look down
the road and say okay, in twoyears this business will be, you
know, able to generate enoughrevenue anyway this side note.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
What was the title of the?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
book it.
It's called Against the Gods.
Against the Gods, yeah.
It starts off with the premiseof like the Greeks discovered
all of this, a lot of this math,but they never applied it
Because they didn't believe atleast the author's opinion was,
they didn't believe that theycould control the future.
It wasn't about how do we doanything.
The Greeks had a lot asked thequestion when they found these

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mathematical formulas.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
They asked the question of why is it this way?
Not how do we implement theseformulas?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Right, right right.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
A whole lot Outside of the golden ratio.
They got the golden ratio downpat pretty well.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I wonder if fate is discussed in that book?
It is.
Fate and luck are the twothings that govern the future
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
And then, once the churches uh, once christianity
came around, post-judaism, youcould talk about the future in
terms of heaven or the future interms of hell, but that wasn't.
That was again something youcould only have a certain amount
of control over.
Right, you do all the thingsthat were right, so you thought
you would get to heaven, butultimately, wasn't your decision

(17:01):
right?
There was a.
There was Right right, that'sinteresting.
A gate guard.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Most modern science and mathematics has its genesis
from the Catholic Church.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Except for numbers.
Research Numbers started like,according to this author at
least.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Maybe numbers specifically Proper numbers.
I know most freaking even mostof the applications of a lot of
that math, a lot of architecture, almost all Western art and
stuff like that had its genesisfrom the Catholic Church.
Most freaking basicmicrobiology and stuff like that

(17:36):
that came from basicallyCatholic monasteries and such.
We'll get into this.
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Doyle would be the person we can go much greater
detail On the gun side where?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
where do you guys go from here, like what hurdles are
in front of you right now, what, what, what can Mebane do to
make it better?
And and what hurdles do youface in Mebane?

Speaker 3 (17:56):
well getting a lathe yeah yeah, yeah, uh, it's.
It's actually super interestingbecause I uh, I talk about a
Doyle to Doyle all the time andI still marvel about it.
We've gone from hey, we need tomake $80 a day.
We make $80 a day, we've notonly paid all of our bills but

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all of our overhead's done,everything's good, and we put a
little bit back into thebusiness and now $80 is like
yeah, it's not Chump change.
We need to be making $500 a dayand it's super interesting to
see how, like, oh yeah, that onehour of bench time that helped
pay for everything, and now onehour of bench time is just chump

(18:39):
change.
It sucks, but we still willnever turn our nose up to even a
small job, because that alladds up.
But the hey, I want to go get afancy drill bit to go do this
one job.
That's what it used to be.
Now it's like all right, cool.
What kind of heavy equipmentcan I get a hold of?

(19:00):
How can I change theinfrastructure of my building so
I can fit that heavy equipment?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
How can we make it more fast, efficient and safe?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Are you guys selling guns now?
Yeah, like on a regular.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, I knew before you were doing mostly
gunsmithing.
We do a lot of consignmentactually.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, that's the overwhelming majority of what we
do.
So, like quick rule of thumb,there's roughly 11% let's say
it's 10% for easy numbers 10%return on firearms.
So if it costs me $1,000 to getthis rifle and put it on the
wall, we can roughly expectabout 10%, maybe $100, off that

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job.
And it's really difficult forhim and I to logistically sit
$1,000 on the wall and notutilize it until it finally
sells for maybe an extra $100.
So we rely heavily onconsignment for the retail
aspects of everything.
But yeah, most everything isgunsmithing working on Trying to

(20:06):
plan plans for long-termmanufacturing.
We have plans to make our ownshit and getting the correct
brains and the correct chairs atthe right time.
That's one of the things we'refocusing on, sort of like
gunsmithing itself.
We have an apprentice that wecan trust.

(20:27):
We have somebody who can do alot of that, or I can teach him
that and he can run the majorityof the smaller things that come
in and that leaves me a littlebit more wiggle room to focus on
the more in-depth projects ormachining and things like that
and also admin and trying to goget those big machines.

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So before it was, I need tomake all of the ends meet.
Now it is.
I have somebody who is helpingme make the ends meet.
How can I expand?
What can I do to expand?
How can I lay?
the groundwork for the expansion.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Are you guys talking?
You're not talking aboutexpansion, physically like to
different locations, physically,are you?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
not to different locations.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Like like multiple like, not outside of your
current establishment.
Yeah, Not um what's the word?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Uh, no, no sister locations or things like that
yet.
But was it yesterday?
Yes, I think yeah, yesterday.
Yesterday, um, I did aconcealed carry class and while
we were there was like all right, cool, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
But we broke ground, yeah, where, at the field, field
and actually officially startedchopping down trees yeah, so
you guys still plan on operatinga range out there kind of?
Full time yeah yeah, has thatbeen.
I know that last time I wasthere.
The lane there's lanes there.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
There is, so there is there's one lane one big lane
and it looks like a bag of ass.
Um, I'm not particularly proudof it.
I don't, I don't like it, Idon't, I don't like anything in
regards to it, and I hate,because you know.
Your store, your location, is arepresentation of who you are

(22:07):
as a person, or who, or moreimportantly, who you are as a
company.
Right and right now, if youcome into our shop, it's a
little messy, but, like we work,yeah we're always working and
practically live there yeah.
And there are times wheresometimes it gets a little more
messy, a little bit cleaner.

(22:27):
You know it ebbs and flows, butI'm still always very happy
with how the store looks Like,even if it gets messy like.
It's not like disgusting, it'snot like a hoarder lives there
it is.
Yeah, I'm working on this oneproject.
That's why there's a bunch oftools out.
Yeah, yeah, I'm working on thisone project.
That's why there's a bunch oftools out, whereas the field,
the current location that we'reshooting at it, just looks like

(22:49):
shit.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Are you going to tighten up the field, the
shooting portion?
We're moving.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
So you saw the parking lot and then off on the
right side there's that lane,the shooting lane.
Yeah, the property actuallygoes very far and left and right
.
Yeah, and we're pushing off tothe left and just creating a
whole new lane like entirelypurpose built range.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Well, I probably won't be able to help you in
time, but I might have a lot oftires one day.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
We know a guy Look at that, we're getting older.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Um, now in in previous conversations there's
been a lot of talk about theother gunsmiths, the gun
community from a businessperspective, in the region or in
the area.
In the Bitcoin world, I'velearned that Bitcoin miners are
very friendly.
They vary wildly in theirexpertise, but the one thing

(23:44):
that matters, that matters, isthat they, they cared.
It's it's all about revenue,it's all about the bottom, the
dollar, right, not the dollar,but it's all about the making,
making your marks, meeting,meeting the, the expectations,
getting new sources of energy,and they're not going to be

(24:04):
friendly necessarily to anotherbitcoin miner going after the
same set of resources.
It is competition.
It is some people are not nice.
My understanding is the guncommunity from a business
standpoint isn't that far offfrom that yeah, it depends on
specifically what side of thebusiness.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
That's actually the whole reason why, one of the
many reasons why um doyle and Iplan to diversify and instead of
just gun smithing we'refocusing on gun smithing and gun
sales and then completelyseparate from guns the spring
printing and embroidery apparelthings like that um completely
separate from that a range, um,you know, but still sort of

(24:42):
tangential to the, thegunsmithing things.
Um, what we've learned with,with, um, like just gunsmiths in
general, um, almost all of themthey're.
They're pretty much exactly thesame as us.
Almost all of them.
There are a few people whodon't care for it, but, um, hey,
my work stands on its own.
There's plenty of fish.

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We do not care.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
What about business-to-business
relationships?
Yeah, pretty good yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
The old gray beard that we all look up to, that we
all aspire to be, is Double HGunsmithing Ken, not H&H.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Double H.
If you type H&H, you're goingto get some weird whatever.
It's Double H Gunsmithing.
Mr Ken Barfield, he's aroundhere.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
He's up in Providence .
Okay so what do you think?

Speaker 4 (25:28):
like an hour and a half or so it's not an hour and
a half, I don't think More thanan hour away.
It's a good drive.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, from where we are and he sends us work, we
send him work.
He is the established guy.
He is an alumni of the sameprogram that we went to and when
he got set up he was a perfectstorm.
Right, he had enough experience, he had enough money and enough

(25:54):
time and he made it work.
And he's just been buildingthat empire ever since.
But he's not expanding.
He doesn't have any plans to gobuild a range.
He doesn't really get intomachine guns, he does
gunsmithing his.
That's what he's happy to doand we're happy to keep each
other where we are.
So, um, there are times wheresomebody's like, hey, I need a

(26:17):
very precise thing lathed in avery specific way.
Um, we send work to his way,whereas the inverse.
His average turnaround was like9 to 13,.
9 to 12 months.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I think it was 9 to 12 weeks.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Asking somebody to put their gun away for 3, 4
months.
It's a big ask.
If they ever want it faster,that's normally when he pushes
it our way.
And he normally doesn't evenreally pick up the phone for
less than a grand.
Not that he's an asshole oranything, he's just like yeah,
you know, I've got he's doingfancy, high-end work, 500

(27:02):
projects and they're all goingto be bringing me at least like
a couple hundred bucks to agrand I could.
I don't really need that $25gun cleaning.
Well, hey, I'm more than happyto take that $25 if they're
willing to drive down their way.
You know you want to fast, youwant to do well and you want to
cheap.
You know we're not all three ofthem, but fast and well done.

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That's normally where we foundour niche.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
He's the high-end racing shop where you bring your
Formula One car to get it fixed.
We're your local oil changeplace.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Or local chop shop.
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Is there a lot of competition in the general area
around here for the servicesthat you guys provide?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, actually he's an hour or so away, you said
right so one thing that I'velearned, especially with the
older crowd, it doesn't matterwhat distance.
Distance is literally not afactor.
If they find a good gunsmith,an older gentleman will drive
four, five, eight hours plusjust for a gunsmith.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
You've even had people come from Maryland that
only trust you and want you towork on their stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Like my grandfather, Great dude.
But he's like yeah, I'm gladthat you're doing that, I'm not
setting him at work.
I've got my gunsmith up inPennsylvania that I drive to.
I make it a weekend trip.
I don't trust you, although Iask.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Thanks, Grandpa.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
He's got a smith that he's been working with for the
past 60 years, so it's hard tobreak that 60-year level of work
.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
There's a relationship there.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
But the other thing, gunsmithing, is in a really
weird spot here.
We're not the triad, what wouldyou call us?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I thought we were in the triad.
I thought we were in the triad,not in the triangle were in the
Triad, Not in the Triangle, butin the Triad.
The Triangle is like theRaleigh-Durham area, where the
Triad is like Raleigh.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
I think the Triad is Greensboro, Burlington and.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Winston-Salem.
If you draw a triangle, don'twe fit within that triangle?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
I don't think so I'm going to Google it.
I believe Mebane is becomingpopular because it's smack in
the middle between the triangle.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Well, that, and it's right next to fucking the Tanger
.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Well, the Tanger is in Mebane.
Yeah, tanger is part of Mebane,but yeah, I think, I think
that's why Mebane is popular,because it's right, smack dab in
between the two.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
So let's say North Carolina, right?
So uh, central North Carolina,it is the tribe.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Uh, so the triad is, uh, the largest cities in the
region, including Greensboro,winston Salem and high point.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Wow.
So, yeah, that's further outWest, yeah, so um, central North
Carolina is is reallyinteresting because there is
this, this super odd phenomenaof there is a hyper like there's
there's a drought of gunsmithsand also a hyper saturation of
gunsmiths.
So, um, there are, there aretwo schools for gunsmithing, two

(29:56):
very, very well, wellrecognized schools uh, two of
the only schools in the unitedstates one in piedmont, uh, in
roxborough you PiedmontCommunity College, and one in
Montgomery, north Carolina, orMontgomery Community College.
So PCC and MCC, those are twoof the top schools in the
country, well, probably honestlyin the world.

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Because where else do you findthis kind of gunsmithing?
Yeah, and you know they're allover.
There are students from thoseschools all over this place.
Right, you know you'll havepeople who graduate or go to it,
stick through it for a littlewhile and then leave, and then
they're like, I'm gonna start mybusiness.
So they start their own littlegunsmithing business or

(30:41):
something like that, or a side,side hustle or something like
that, or a side hustle.
And normally what will happenis either like, yeah, it's not
as lucrative as we thought, orit's not as busy as we thought,
or it was just a side hustle.
My other gig, my main gig, istaking off, and then those guys,
kind of they don't die out, butthey kind of fizzle out and

(31:04):
you'll see a ton of them.
You just Google gunsmiths in thearea.
There's a shitload of them.
There's also a drought, in thatthe overwhelming majority of
those people, like we said,fizzle out.
There's only two, three actualgunsmiths within a couple
hundred miles of around.
Here Is RAD a gunsmith.
No, they're not.
They said that they offeredgunsmithing.

(31:26):
They have a guy.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
So it's sort of like Distinguished Pistol.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Distinguished Pistol wasn't a gunsmith.
They had a person on site whowas a gunsmith, correct, we were
our own business.
Rad is the same way.
They have their own thing andthey offer gunsmithing services,
but it is a separate company.
That's there.
And he's sort of kind of fizzledout Rad or the gunsmith, the
gunsmith I don't know much aboutit.

(31:53):
I'd love to talk to him andpick his brain, but he's similar
to us.
He's doing 07-02 stuff and he'smanufacturing machine guns, but
I think that's almost entirelywhat he's focusing on now.
He's not doing too.
He does like small things andthen making machine guns,
whereas we're trying to do allthe small things, all the big
things, all the weird shit andalso make machine guns.

(32:17):
But the the machine gun sidehas has definitely seen, you
know, been an impact.
We've definitely scaled thatback just because it doesn't
make much money right now.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
But we have a range.
Yeah, as I say, I'd imaginethat there's probably just not
enough people that know about it, because if you told me you can
have a bachelor party inCharlotte or you can have a
bachelor party at a machine gunrange, yes, Automatically.
I'm looking at the gunsmith orthe machine gun range
automatically, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
So with that, like, there isn't a ton of competition
because we all kind of stay inour own lane, um, and we all
kind of have our own like claimsto fame, right.
So I have print test underMaverick way back in the day and
I learned a lot of good thingsand a lot of bad things from him
.
Um, he's still a great gunsmith.
Um, he's still a great gunsmith, but he does take his sweet
damn time and he'll tell youexactly that he sends us work

(33:09):
because somebody wants it donefaster, so he'll send work our
way, he's in Mebane still yeah,he's north 119 oh, but he's not
down where he was correct, so hewas right there right across
from Lowe's.
A couple years ago he got robbed.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Somebody broke into his business.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
And he had been bouncing between two locations
because he can't shoot there, hecan't do any test fires there.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
And that's incredibly important if you're trying to
do gunsmithing and he was justlike how do you guys do test
fires at your?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
We have our range.
You just go down to your range.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, it's not that far away.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
But we're also trying to do eventually we will buy a
pop box.
Well, it's not actually a popbox, it's a giant like a bullet
catch and it looks like a big Idon't know bookshelf, but it's
filled with rubber and differentversions are rated to different

(34:07):
different types of ammunition.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I can't remember the brand, but they they do make
like yeah, it's called likebullet bunker.
I believe, yeah, yeah, and it'spatented and and all that, all
that jazz, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Bullet.
It just looks like a big assbriefcase, or I'm sorry a
bookshelf or a safe or somethingand we just, we just shoot into
it.
There's a pretty popularcompany that I cannot remember
the name of, in a similar veinto us, but they just, they just
make mini guns.
That's their whole thing, youknow.
And just like, the motor forone of these mini guns is like

(34:40):
60 to 80 grand, so it's it takesa lot of money to get into the
business.
So you know, they spent a lotof time and money getting into
that niche and that is theirniche.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
And they test fire all of their mini guns into one
of these bullet bunkers.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Wow yeah you guys have the shop downtown where you
do your work.
You have the range where youcan test your work and other
people can come shoot machineguns.
If I wanted to rent a machinegun and I didn't have a place to
shoot, is there a rental feeassociated with using the range?
Or do you guys say you rent thegun?

(35:16):
Shoot wherever you want to,we'll just be on site.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
So the plan is we bring, bring into our range
because we know, hey, we've doneaerial, you know, and sat
images.
We know the lay of the land, weknow where those rounds are
going to impact, we know thatthere's no damage that can be
done to another person soeverybody.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
So if you rent a machine gun, it's kind of,
unless otherwise discussed,you're renting it to shoot at
your range, correct, correct?

Speaker 3 (35:41):
now we will.
We will do other locations likeper request, but it has to be
like, hey, give us, give us acouple weeks of of research to
determine whether or not this isactually a safe location we'd
have to be able to scout thesite and yeah and scout the site
.
Yeah, um, find a good place.
That's why we were able to dothe wedding location, the
wedding venue, because the guywho owned the venue, he hunts

(36:03):
there all the time and he wasshooting.
I think he was shooting like30-odd-six or something like
that.
So, hey, we're not doinganything near 30-odd-six.
We know we're going to be good.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
And he had like a little mini berm on the property
anyways.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
So we were shooting under the berm anyway, Now
you're the only gun company thatI know of in the world that
100% for sure has acceptedBitcoin for a gun.
At the time April, march whatwas that?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
October.
No, it was March.
I think it was March.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, because I remember the sign now.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
It was cold.
Yeah, it was still cold outside.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
March 2022, I think.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I think 23.
23?
23.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, because it was right before we opened.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Ah yeah, so one of your first sales of a gun in
that facility was to Bitcoin.
Yes, would you do it again?
Yeah, would you do the Bitcoinsale again?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah yeah, it's complicated and we need to
figure out the proper way to doit.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Because we took a pretty big hit on that Only
because you sold early.
No, no, I mean liketransferring from Bitcoin to our
wallet and then so it was likeBitcoin, and then from my wallet
to this other wallet, and thenfrom that wallet to cash, and

(37:28):
then from that location to ourbank account.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah right, so we got hit like three or four times
yeah, there's easier ways to doit, but if if you had to held on
to it, it would be.
I don't remember how much.
The gun was 600-ish, yeah, 600.
So that would be about 1,500now.
Hell yeah, that's the problemwith Bitcoin, though, is it
limits your liquidity unless youreally want it.
So if you're running a businessfor Bitcoin, you need to be

(37:53):
able to either convert that intodollars quickly and cheaply or
you need to have the reservefunds to not have to convert it
into dollars.
A company out of California, ahealthcare manufacturing company
, is now the second company inthe United States to say they're
going to put Bitcoin on theirasset sheet as a treasury
reserve.
So, instead of holding cash in abank account, they convert cash

(38:14):
into Bitcoin.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Well, their stock's up some like 20 or 30% since
they announced this.
So they come out and say we'regoing to buy.
I think their first buy waslike 17 million dollars worth of
bitcoin and then they just cameout and said we're gonna raise
100 million.
We're gonna raise 100 milliondollars just to buy bitcoin.
And so, like you're starting tosee ones and twos and threes of
entities doing this, wherethey're like we want this as a

(38:37):
reserve asset, we want this tomaintain value, and they're like
we want this as a reserve asset, we want this to maintain value
, and they're buying it upfaster than we're producing it.
Hell yeah, today we'reproducing 450 Bitcoin a day and,
like June 4th, the ETF spot12,000.
So there's a supply crunchcoming, but anyway, you being
one of the only gun companiesthat accepted Bitcoin, what I

(39:00):
think is really cool is there'ssituations like this where the
Bitcoin community is like, hey,let's go look at the Bitcoin
store map so you can figure outin your area who accepts Bitcoin
.
But unless you're kind oflooking for it, you don't
necessarily come across thosebusinesses, necessarily come

(39:21):
across as businesses.
But to say that you're a uniquebusiness in the fact that you
offer firearms which I mean.
Let's tell the truth, there's alot of headwind against
firearms politically, socially,so opening that business number
one is tough.
But then number two, to saythat you accept Bitcoin, that
kind of puts you in the 1% offirearms clubs.
You're one of the only firearmmanufacturers and or retailers
that accepts Bitcoin in theworld.
So if anybody's listening andyou want to deal with somebody

(39:43):
who accepts Bitcoin and doesgood work, you should probably
come talk to racket back armoryand Mevin, not to completely
derail, but I wanted to cover alittle bit about what Becca and
the t-shirt side and what allyou guys do for the t-shirt
stuff, because that's the otherhalf of this.
Right, that's the other half.
I know if I walk into yourbuilding, one half is a gunsmith
shop and I go in the back andit's a completely different

(40:03):
business.
It's a t-shirt company.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
So how?
How did all this work out?
What do you guys got going on?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
So, you know, when we purchased the business
originally well, still to thisday it was meant to kind of fund
the gunsmith side because, like, at the end of the day, like
that's where the guys startedback in 2019.
Um, but in return, uh, I got tofind my niche in life, I feel

(40:30):
yeah, yeah, it's a cool feeling,I do, I do sometimes, you know,
sometimes I get frustrated withwhen, when machines break or
you know, things don't go asplanned, but um no, it's been
super rewarding and um yeah, uhhow do you, how do you like
operating in mebane from the,from a business standpoint,

(40:52):
comparatively to the gunsmithbusiness?
from a business standpoint.
A lot of people come in and youknow they don't know I exist
there.
I think I finally got some newsignage on the building recently
, so that's exciting, becausenot a lot of people realize that
there's like multiple and theydon't know I exist there.
I think I finally got some newsignage on the building recently
, so that's exciting, becausenot a lot of people realize that
there's multiple businesseswithin that establishment.
It's almost like its ownshopping center mall.

(41:13):
If you will Like, come in get agun or two leave with a T-shirt
or a sticker.
Go bowling across the parkinglot you know um, but as that, as
that parking lot becomes kindof like the buffalo plaza, so to
speak, um I hadn't heard thatthe buffalo plaza, um it is.

(41:33):
It's becoming a place where alot of people are coming to and
they're realizing we're thereand with the signage, people
come in and they're like oht-shirts, uh, because I have a
lot of customers.
People come in and they're likeoh t-shirts, uh, because I have
a lot of customers who come inand they're like guns yeah oh
gosh, am I in the right place?
And I'm like, yep, that's myhusband's side come over.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
It's like walking into a cooking class, except one
person's dressed up like astripper.
It's like one thing stands outreally heavily, that's the guns.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
And then you realize like oh, there's other really
good things going on right here,yeah, and we and we have lost
some customers due to it.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Not as many as we expected.
You've lost some t-shirtcustomers because you are also a
gun business.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Nowhere near as much as we expected.
Obviously, the majority of themhave been schools.
With schools.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
They kind of draw the line in dealing with guns I've
always advocated forated, for ifyou own a business, you should
sponsor a sports team, youshould do all these things to
help your community.
If you're a community-basedbusiness but guns, it would be
hard to imagine pulling up tothe PTO meeting and they'd be
like sponsored by Rack of.

(42:37):
Backfire, Not because itwouldn't be a good match just
simply because of theconnotations.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, people just imagine, yeah, people just
imagine guns and think like rob,yeah kill right right, but you
know, with with reba, you knowapparel like reba standing for
racket back armory a lot ofpeople think my name is reba and
not rebecca, so I get a lot ofpeople who email me and they're
like hey, reba, nice to talk toyou earlier today and I'm like

(43:04):
and I'll sign my email, you know, like rebecca half acre and um
they won't like, I won't correctthem because I'm not trying to
be rude or anything like.
Call me reba, I don't give ashit yeah, yeah but, um, uh,
yeah, it's, it's.
I haven't experienced too manypeople like not wanting to deal
with us.
I do experience a lot of peoplewho just kind of call around

(43:25):
and price check right, becausemy side of the house we are
heavily in deep with a lot ofother screen printers around.
There are a lot of companiesand most people they're going to
call around and price and I tryto stay as fairly priced as I

(43:50):
can.
You know I'm not trying to.
I still want to make a living,but like I, you know, I still
want like the business at thesame time.
But I'm also not that personwho's like I don't want a
customer, just to want acustomer, Like I want to build a
rapport.
I want to know you by the firstname.
I want to hey.
Oh, you need that order again.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Gotcha, gotcha, we doing this again.
All right, cool.
Well, hey look, I could flatout tell you everybody I've had
on here.
I'm looking at the, the littleum piece of artwork we got over
there outside of racquetbackarmory.
That's already on there fordoyle when he was here
originally.
There's willow tree, uh,muffler, there's also.
Uh, there'll be anothersignature on there soon from the
guy who runs willow tree.
His grandson, evan, runs hislawn care business nice so

(44:32):
there's willow tree lawn care.
Uh, obviously tax man's up there, I'm up there, but there's also
you guys know, probably knowthese guys now a meb and
Electric.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Right there in the parking lot you had Meb and
Electric in here I had Jim fromMeb and Electric.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
He's actually my most listened to episode.
I think it's because peopleread the episode title.
If you read it quickly.
It looks like it says ElectricJim.
Instead of like Electrician Jim.
If you just glance at it it'slike Electric Jim, but he's my
most listened to episode.
I think Wayne is number two.
Ed Priola he's running forAlamance County, commissioner,

(45:11):
but of all the people that we'regoing to have in here, they'll
all be business related, or atleast most of them will be so as
time goes on.
It'd be great to connect youguys from a t-shirt perspective
and a gun perspective, you know,if that serves the case, but
connect you to those businessesbecause they probably don't even
know you're here, likeWillowtree Muffler probably
doesn't know that you're hereand he probably doesn't know.

(45:32):
You own a gun store, yeah, right, and I guarantee you Wayne from
Willowtree wants to buy someguns, right?
I just based on myconversations with him, I think
he likes guns.
So I think that people hearingthat you're there, that you
support firearms, that yousupport all these other things
that we kind of talk about onhere, I think as we grow, that

(45:53):
will help you grow.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
That makes sense.
So, like, as far as like thebusiness model aspect, like with
the apparel side and thegunsmithing side is, you know,
we kind of consider ourselveslike a mom and pop shop, so to
speak, not to like discount,like our business partners by
any mean, but like people comein and they're like ah okay,
sheridan, rebecca, one one runsone side, the other one's the
other side.
That's cool, they're local,hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, I mean it's really cool.
It is kind of mom and pop-ish.
You have almost like a dividingline down the middle of the
building.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
And I get to go have lunch with my husband.
That's awesome, actually.
So I can point directly to aspecific instance very recently
that mom and pop shots tend tobe able to like, from an
entrepreneurial point, they canpivot very, very quickly.
Perennial point they can.
They can pivot very, veryquickly that, if you look at
those, those larger corporations, that's not physically possible

(46:46):
.
Yeah, and we just landed acontract, a pretty decently
sized contract, on thegunsmithing side.
That was completely unrelatedto gunsmithing because we also
do laser engraving and I don'twant to put any names out
because I think that we have tostart signing ndas.
But part of the reason welanded that contract was because

(47:07):
we were a mom and pop shop andthe guy came in hey, can you
engrave this?
And I was like, yeah, sure, andhe's like, okay, I'll be back
in a couple days to see what youdo.
It's like no, let's just go doit right now.
Right now, yeah.
And he's like, okay, he wasvery, very, uh, flabbergasted
that.
I was like, all right, let's doit right now.
And then he's like, oh, youknow, that looks really good.
Let me go talk to my you know,the higher ups and get some more

(47:29):
information.
And he came back the next daywith two blank items for us to
engrave, and I'm guessing thefirst one was just like a shot
in the dark.
Hey, can you do this?
Can you engrave it?
Cool.
And then the second interview,so to speak, was a proof of
concept.
Hey, this is exactly what weneed engraved and we want to see

(47:51):
I want to, like the higher upswant to see what it looks like.
So we did two full runengravings for this guy.
And he walks in and he's likehey, I have these two things for
you to engrave.
Can you, you know, can youengrave them?
I was like, yeah, sure, let'sgo ahead.
And he's like, cool, I'll, I'llgo ahead and drop it off, I'll,
I'll see you in a couple ofdays.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
No, man, let's go sit down right now, you know it's.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
It's very easy for me to you know at the program than
I am, but I've gotten prettygood at the laser engraving
program and I was able to zap itfor them.
It probably took less than 10minutes to get them both done

(48:34):
and they were incrediblyimpressed with just how fast it
was and how flexible that we areas a company.
Because I know one of mybiggest complaints when I was
working with other gunsmiths wasyeah, I work on ARs.
Hey, so I've got this cool 1911.
No, no, no, no, no.
Let me stop you there.
I work on ARs.
That is it, that is the onlything I do, whereas we're the
exact opposite.
We're jumping like, hey, I'venever worked on an air gun, let

(48:55):
me go study air guns, and I'mgoing to go learn how to repair
an air gun.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I've never worked on a black powder gun.
Let me go, you know, learn howto repair one.
Um, I've never run a screenprinting or an embroidery
company but I let me hire mywife.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, I can see how it is very lucrative.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
You know, let's, let's get into that, yeah.
So yeah, it's been Well.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Doyle, obviously you cover both gunsmith and the
airsoft side.
Yeah, do you have involvementwith the t-shirt side?
I know?

Speaker 2 (49:25):
not necessarily legally.
He swung some ink for me once.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
I'll help out when I have time.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, I'll go in there and help out what's kind
of on your plate.
From the business perspective,the airsoft thing is a whole
different field.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Yeah, that's a whole different ballgame, yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
So my main involvement in it is uh, how do
you always put it in the shop,sugar daddy?

Speaker 4 (49:51):
yeah, so yeah I, I work uh a lot of time at a
security company is available.
I am single but I work.
I work mostly at a securitycompany which, uh, also has an
office in that same building,which is how that whole
relationship came about and, forthe most part, I'm making money
so that I can get some of thelast pieces of heavy equipment
that we really need to be ableto do everything.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Yeah, pretty much entirely self-sufficient, so you
need a lathe.
Yes, what?

Speaker 1 (50:16):
kind of price range is that falling into?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
The least 5K at the bottom You're looking Very least
5K on the cheap end A good onewhat?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
$7,000 or $8,000?

Speaker 2 (50:26):
$7,000 or $8,000 up to about $12,000.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
The prices do vary wildly, but no more than $15,000
.
So less than $15,000.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
So if I was in the area and I needed a part
produced, gun or not absent if.
I was in the area and I neededa part produced gun or not
absent lathe right now could youstill produce parts for
machining?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
So we do have a a much smaller lathe, like a
benchtop lathe.
It doesn't have much ass to it.
It has trouble turning verycommon things that we work with.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
It's good for a pinch , but it's yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
It is good in a pinch and we've learned how to
utilize it.
So, instead of using, like, theactual proper lathe cutting
tools, I do it all by hand.
So, uh, sort of sort of likeyour wood turning lathes yeah
right, you know you use a handtool.
Yeah, to get it down to to size.
I do the same thing, um,obviously different tools, but
like, hey, I need to turn thismetal to the specific size.

(51:20):
That's what I'm going to, and Ido it all with, like files and
a couple other things.
So, until until we get to alathe where I can actually start
utilizing lathe tooling, um, Ido it all by hand.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Are you guys expanding into general machining
as a business?

Speaker 3 (51:35):
model?
Yeah, we have no issues with itwhatsoever.
Like we were saying, man likeapparel is very, very different
than than firearms.
Like we were saying man apparelis very, very different than
firearms and we had no issueswith it.
It was just financially a gooddecision.
It came with live contracts.
It came with existing customers.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
It came with an employee.
It came with all of theequipment the stuff to run the
equipment.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
It was a great turnkey operation and it was
just a good decision.
It cost a lot of money and alot of time and all that, but as
of this month we will have paidoff almost the remainder of
that cost for that business.

(52:22):
We'll have paid off that debtand the only debt remaining is
us, to ourselves, to thebusiness.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
What about the Airsoft side?
How does that interact with?
Does the Airsoft business thatyou're a part of interact with
Racketback?
Not directly.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Not as much the way.
The way the airsoft thing worksis basically the gentleman who
owns the security company alsoowned the airsoft business and
he had some some fairly severestaffing issues that that looked
like he might have to close thebusiness down and we use that
as a.
He was allowing us to use thatas a place to test fire and so I

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was like, whoa, wait, pleasedon't close that down.
Um, let me, let me help runthat thing and see if we can
keep it from collapsing.
And there was there's clientelebased, there's people who want
to come out and play airsoft andeverything like that, and that
was basically all it took issomebody to go out there and
manage the thing in order tokeep it from falling apart.

(53:25):
And so basically I manage itand got an ownership share of it
and in return, we get access tothe field whenever we want.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
So to summarize all of the activity inside that
building, we've got machining,we've got gunsmithing, proper
Yep Like it may includemachining, but hand hand tooling
, gunsmithing, yep.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
And Cerakote.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Cerakote Yep.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Laser engraving Laser engraving.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Am I missing anything on the gunsmith's hat?
Gun retail Would you?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
incorporate Corda into that.
Yeah, so that's actuallysomething we've never even
mentioned to you.
Yet we mentioned, I think himonce.
I mentioned him once.
Is it a knife guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he'sa knife guy.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
So he's his own thing now.
Is he out of the same buildingwith you?

Speaker 3 (54:09):
guys.
Yeah, he's on our side.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
He rent section from us oh he has a little spot
inside the store that he takescare of, and he's running
classes he's doing forgingclasses, knife making classes,
where Right there, right in theshop Inside.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
He's doing forging Yep.
Well, he doesn't forge indoorshe forges outside.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Outside, there's a safe area where he can do the
anvil and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Back where that generator is.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, the one that doesn't even work.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Well, theoretically it works.
I'm told that it works.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I've never seen it.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
So you have knife sales knife sales knife making
custom leather, customembroidery.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Like available five days a week.
Yeah, he's like.
He's there all the time.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
He's, so it's not like a once a month gig.
He's, he, he, uh, he has like afamily and kids that he has to
take care of, obviously.
Um, so he's getting a.
He's actually gonna get like anine to five.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Um, hopefully he he's able to get a remote gig so he
can actually come into the shopright, work there normal and do
the remote, but as of right now,it's it's it's his full-time
gig.
As of right now.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
No as of yesterday.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Oh, really yeah, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
He's like all right, cool, I've decided he needs to
go get a.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Gotcha, admittedly, we were very.
I know he talked about it.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
We were very lucky in that when we first started.
I'm 100% VA disabled, soeverything that I don't use to
eat or pay my bills goes to theshop, and Doyle was able to take
a very similar mindset, but hisis much more lucrative being
Shop Sugar Daddy.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
I'm going to make you a t-shirt.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Yeah, you should have an official shirt that you wear
, it'll be polo, it'll be aReuters official.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
I'll wear it.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
We were able to to be very flexible right Two single
dudes way back when, like it waseasy for us to make happen,
Cora opened up the business.
Um, we were able to help himout as much as we could, Um, but
, uh, he's got, you know, a wife, two kids.
Um, his wife is in schoolwaiting to get a job.

(56:19):
She's about to finish her job.
She's already been selected towork somewhere.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
That's another form of income.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
That's a big free fall period.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Especially with household mortgage kids.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
He's stepping back to take some time to go do job
stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Are you still going to retail his work?
Yep, Some knives guns engravingforging leather work woodwork
general machining within yourabilities, given the machinery
that you currently have.
Right Um, CNC, CNC, Uh, I'mtrying to think of all the

(57:05):
machines t-shirts yeah, screenprinting and embroidery.
And that'd be hats, shirts,jackets anything, right,
anything that even backpacksfits inside the machine that you
need.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Anything that can fit on the hoop in theory fit on
the hoop as long as it fits itsits.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
If it fits it prints, yeah.
And then Doyle you have.
You're on the range, but you'reon the range supporting airsoft
processes.
What's the next big thing forairsoft?
With you guys here, you justrunning your recent, your, your
weekend events, weekly events.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
We're just we're open on the weekends, saturdays nine
30 to five.
Sometimes we push that a littlebit later to five 30.
If people want to run a fewextra games or something, but
yeah, that's.
That's pretty much all it is atthe moment.
We're slowly working up tohosting some events, but nothing
, nothing concrete potentiallyopening up on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Yeah, that's been discussed.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Y'all are also like trying to organize more themes.
What about archery range out?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
there, I mean there's no, no reason.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
We never really tried , or thought of.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
I mean you got the land.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
So that's why I said you got, We've got the land.
That's why I said we've gotland.
It's something we could do.
Archery range yeah.
So to pull everybody back in,you have one and the security
business is under that roof,yeah under the roof and all
three of us are involved in itin at least some way.
Yeah, so it's one collective ofpeople running multiple
businesses, kind of all basedout of the same location.

(58:33):
Yeah, all based out of the samelocation.
All red-blooded, patriotic,local business, not necessarily
Bitcoin supporter, bitcoinpromoter, but Bitcoin-friendly
businesses are right here inAlamance County.
Because what I think ishopefully going to happen as we
proceed with the podcast andjust kind of how you guys are

(58:53):
going to grow, is the more ofthese type of things that you
guys get yourself involved with,the more fingers that you have
in different parts of the pie,the more people are going to
figure out about you, whichbenefits your businesses.
And that just continues tosnowball.
So people listening today mightbe in California, but they might
want a gun and they might wantto buy a Bitcoin.
Not necessarily want to buy aBitcoin.

(59:15):
They might want to buy abitcoin and they not necessarily
want to buy a bitcoin.
They might want to buy a gunand like the fact that you
support bitcoin or you supportfreedom or you support xyz and
reach out to you, right.
So we cast a little bit widernet, although we're not catching
all that many fish as far aslisteners are concerned yet.
This is an incremental process,like the toyota plant, right?
like it's just an incrementalimprovement every episode, but

(59:37):
in time I think that thecommunity will eventually be a
lot more involved with you,especially on the machining side
.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Yeah, we're planning a pretty big event when?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Can you talk about it ?
I guess we can.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
It's been under wraps for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
It's been a little under, but some not-so-great
things happened which we'll talkto off the air in regards to
VFW, and they're all really goodpeople and we realize they also
don't have like there isnothing for veterans,
veteran-oriented, anything inregards to Veterans Day here in

(01:00:17):
Mebane.
So we're going to host the REBAor the Buffalo Plaza.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Veterans.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Day event and it will be the entire parking lot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Vendors food trucks.
Oh wow, raffling off.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
At least one rifle Silent auction.
There's going to be indoorvenue, outdoor venue.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Who are you guys bringing in for vendors?
Do you know yet?

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
During the Dogwood.
I actually asked a lot of thevendors there.
A lot of them seemed to be veryinterested.
We're going to have axethrowing.
Hopefully they're able to getthat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Hopefully they're available that day, because that
would be so cool.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
They already said they would they would be
available they're trying to buya portable axe throwing unit
it's not hard to have that there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
It's a trailer with some cages.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
It's a trailer with some cages and, uh and a
backstop, the um I mean youthink every other you know
fucking vet in the world, ohyeah, viking, blah, blah, blah
do that.
So like, of course they'regonna chuck, they're gonna love
that shit.
Yeah, we spoke with the localarmed forces recruiting center
here in Burlington and they'regoing to come out Good idea.

(01:01:22):
Marine Corps is bringing outtheir pull-ups and, funnily
enough, nobody else was therefor us to talk to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Everybody else was busy having the day off, I guess
Doing things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
So only the Marine Corps was there.
So who the fuck can thunk it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Hey you know, come to think of it, when my recruiting
station was multi, I think theNavy was in there as well as the
Air Force, I think.
And I don't think I ever sawthose dudes.
I'm not talking bad about themin general.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
I don't think I ever saw those dudes.
I saw the Navy once and thearmy once and uh, I'd never the
air force guy was just like haveyou watched top gun?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
you know what's hilarious?
I'm sitting up good as the navy, not the air force, but oh I
always thought it was the airforce.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
But we're doing, but we're doing this event and um
marines, like everybody's, likewe have food trucks there, like
all kinds of shit, and uh it'sum, we actually this is a really
crazy one that we had access toOur social media manager.
Her husband is in the NationalGuard.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
I know he's airborne, that's all I know, I don't know
what he is.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
He's in the army of some sort and he already like,
before we even announcedanything, this is technically
the official announcement.
Yeah, he already reached out tohis command and his command was
like yeah, sure, we'll bringout the heavy vehicles and all
those other things.
We'll bring out the armoredforklifts and trucks and all

(01:02:47):
that other shit.
I was like cool, I just wantedlike a Humvee and a Deuce and a
half, but they're trying to gettanks out there and all kinds of
shit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
I just want to climb to the top.
Brian is going to fucking hateme because he just paid a lot of
money to redo that parking lot.
Oh, we have to think about that, because that's a lot of money
right there.
The good news is?

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
American tanks have rubber treads, interesting
Russian tanks, do not?
Russian tanks destroy asphalt,whereas the American tanks were
designed to drive on the UShighway system.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Interesting.
I didn't know that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Why is the highway system thing?
Yeah, it was invented duringwhat?
The cold war.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Yeah, late world war, late world war two, early cold
war.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yeah, it was.
It was to be able to quicklyand efficiently maneuver the U S
military anywhere in thecountry.
I did not know, that I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I did not know that.
I did not know that either.
Wait, the US military can'toperate.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
They can move, but they cannot operate within the
US border Unless we're invadedand that kind of goes out the
window.
Yeah, that's a different story.
That was a much bigger threatback then.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Yeah, yeah, so that was on the menu, but yeah, but
theoretically, if they do bringtanks, they're not going to
drive them down fucking I-40 orwhatever.
They're going to put them ontrucks and then bring them out
there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
No, that'd be cool.
That would be cool.
You guys got food vendors.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Yes, Food vendors.
Like you've already talked toFat man, I'm guessing.
Yep, we've spoken to everybodyin the plaza.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Everybody's got to help out.
Are they paying like?
Is there a charge to be a?

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
vendor, yeah, actually.
So there's a yeah so to be anoutdoor vendor and that'll give
you a 10 by 10 spot, and then ahundred dollars to be an indoor
vendor and that'll give you, Ithink, a 10 by 10 spot, but it
also gives you power ac, youknow, obviously lights I'll be
there if I'll buy a spot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, for sure, I'll host the podcast episode.
That'd be really cool yeah,what does?

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
what does interview veterans?
Well, uh would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
The fat man, the giant food area at the bowling
alley.
It is big enough to warrantitself as a commissary, like a
FDA regulated commissary.
That's actually part of thereason why he's in there,
because he did a lot of foodtruck stuff right In order to

(01:04:55):
exist as a food truck you haveto operate out of a commissary,
yeah so with all the laws, he'sgoing.
He's a food.
He used to be a food truck.
He knows what it's like to runa commissary or to be involved
in a commissary.
So all he's going to be doingyou know, prices and stuff might
change, I don't really know.
But the word that he gave mewas um, he's just going to take
a percentage of profits.
There's not going to be anycost other than like hey, you

(01:05:18):
know, you can use our commissaryand you can be a vendor.
We just want a percentage ofthe of the profit for that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Right, right, that's cool.
That's a great idea.
I think it'll bring a lot ofexposure to you guys.
It's good for veterans.
It's a wonderful idea.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Yeah, yeah, we're going to try and donate yeah, Do
a large portion of what we dolike.
Obviously, the auction ticketsales, the whole gamut donating
to the local VFW, VFW proper orVFW, american Legion.
Mike Barr.
Mike Barr, VFW.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
In this area, there is a dividing line between the
American Legion and the VFW fora variety of reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I've heard of that.
It's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
There are two very different types of people area.
There is a dividing linebetween the american legion and
the vfw.
For a variety of reasons, it'sit's weird it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
There are two very different types of people.
Yes, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
It's a very strange scenario like there's so many
like psychological things that Ithink are built into it and
there's so many it's I'm notgoing to say it's outright a
pissing contest oh, but there'ssome.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
There's some dick measuring going on at some level
I've.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I'm probably one of the few people who've been
kicked out of one or both.
I've been physically removed.
They didn't handle me, theyjust told me to leave, oh wow.
Yeah, doyle was there for thatone.
That was one of my classicexplosions, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
But generally the VFW .
So it's sort of like theargument between Pogues and
Grunts.
Right, yeah, so Legion isessentially Pogues and Grunts
are like VFW.
So the Legion is open toanybody who is served?

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yeah, who is served yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Whereas the VFW is very specific.
It's almost like into thefucking name Veterans of Foreign
Wars.
So you have to have served in aforeign Right, in a war they
have to have served in a foreignin a war and technically, since
what?
Like last year, they aren'tmaking any more people who are,
who can be a part of the VFW.
So, like people who arecurrently joined, if you were to

(01:07:07):
get out like right now, youcannot be a part of the VFW
because you have not beeninvolved in a war.
Kids are coming out of bootcampwith nothing on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
There's no ribbon.
They don't get the fire watchribbon anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
It is gone.
Yeah, so even even then You'regetting your shirt on backwards.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah, change it up a bit, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
That's sort of the from.
In my experience working withboth groups, the dudes who were,
who were at the Legion, theywere fucking pokes.
I'm not talking shit about allof the Legion, but the dudes
that I met they didn't reallygive a shit.
They were like yeah, I was a,I'm a veteran, yeah, that's what
I am Like, yeah, oh, yeah.
But whereas most like dudesthat we've seen that served like

(01:07:46):
actually done, you know, beenthere, done that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
They don't see why not.
Yeah, yeah, I don't have aproblem.
Whenever I was doing stuff withthem that was one thing I
always try to say was likeanything I do, is open to both.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Yeah, right, even though I was really only
affiliated with the vfw?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
yeah, because at the end of the day, the goal is to
improve veterans lives, right?
So?
I think, whatever avenue, moreimportant thing yeah, whatever
avenue you have to take to reachthem is the one I try to tell
the vfw like, look, you want toimprove their lives, actually
improve their lives.
Yeah, like, help their wives, dosomething in the community that
helps them, that gives them abenefit.
One idea I had was um, if, if,if, joining the vfw at whatever

(01:08:33):
whatever the monthly or annualcost is got me 10 free classes
for my wife to go to a yogastudio that the VFW hosted when
its doors were closed.
I would have joined the VFW 10years ago because it would have
been beneficial to improve mylife.
Now, in this example, it'simproving my wife's life, but it

(01:08:55):
improves my life in relation tothat.
So if the VFW offered up thingslike hey, if you're a member of
the VFW, you get a discount atthe community pool, your wife
can come to yoga studios.
We're working with the nailsalon, just touch on all these
little things in life that makeyour life and your family's life
slightly better, instead ofsaying what are we going to have

(01:09:18):
for dinner next week?

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yeah, it's sort of like a boys club and we hang out
and have dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Most of my experiences with the VFW.
The people were pleasant, butthe goals were effectively the
same as last year, and that'snot necessarily a bad thing.
But when you're trying torecruit youth, when you're
trying to to make the claim thatyou improve lives, you can't
just eat chicken and hand outsome money exactly.
You got to actually be in yourcommunity and do real things

(01:09:44):
that improve real lives, liketoys for tots is a great example
of something they do thatactually improves lives.
But that's a ritual every vfwacross the county does it.
Come up with some new things.
Same for the Legion.
Come up with new ways toimprove lives and people will
join you.
That's what I think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Yeah, I know that's been a recurring complaint that
Barr has, and you might getbutthurt that I say it.
But when he took over, when hejoined the VFW, they were very
transparent with their coffers,like, hey, this is how much
money we have as a post.
The dudes that were in chargeof that post beforehand oh yeah,

(01:10:23):
let me do whatever I can tospend some money.
It wasn't for helping veterans,it was doing whatever they
could to spend as much money.
Get a discount here, get adiscount there.
They just demolished thosecoffers and then Barr took over
and he's just been steadilytrying to like, increase those.
You know that the amount of uhmoney, because the money is uh,

(01:10:44):
according to him, um, the.
The whole point of it is hey,this veteran, he just lost his
job, lost his home.
Uh, the house burned down andthe car was in the garage.
Let's just drop half of ourcoffers to give them somewhere
to stay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Do something to help out this local vet that I did
see the bfw do.
Yeah, that I I will give themcredit where credit is due.
I did see them help specificpeople.
Yeah, with with real needs youknow like hey, I don't have
groceries yeah, or I've been,I've been evicted and we you
know the bfw would get them aweek at a hotel and then give
them some resources to help themget back on their feet.

(01:11:17):
Whether or not they did isimmaterial.
Yep, it's.
It's the opportunity and thehelp that you're getting, and
maybe you get repeat helpsometimes.
It just depends, but I saw theVFW do things like that and I'm
actually I've talked to MikeBarr about having him and talk
about the VFW, because that's acommunity thing, right yeah, and
they'd be able to give you amuch more firsthand description
of what they're doing.
What I thought about wasbringing the VFW and the

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American Legion on at the sametime.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I was thinking the same thing and just be like
there's two knives on the table.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
One of them is loaded .

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
We can't stay too late.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I was going to say we could probably wrap it up, but
I wanted to give everybody anopportunity to kind of get their
last piece out and also telleverybody where they can find
out more about either you, yourbusiness, how they can get in
touch with you and general datesthat might be important for
anything that's coming up.
So half will start with you, ifyou want.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Shared in Half Acre.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
How do they find you?

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
On Facebook or on the Twitter or in the Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I know you said you got somebody doing your social
media, but do you still respondto messages?

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
some of the messages yeah, absolutely as long as I
can, as often as I can?

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
What's your business at on Twitter?
Is it just Racket?

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Back Home.
It is at Reba Gunsmithing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Reba Gunsmithing Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
And the website is wwwrebagunspillingcom.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
And you guys are right in downtown Mebane, 202
East Washington Street, right.
So if anybody needs the address202 East Washington Street,
doyle for the security companyand your airsoft side, what do
you got?

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
So the Archangel Battle Park if you type that
into Google, that'll take you toour location on Mineral Springs
Road.
We're only open on Saturdays asof right now.
There's been talk of opening upon sundays.
Nothing concrete yet, but thatis something that's in the works
.
Um, we do have rental gearavailable.
Uh, anybody's free to come outand play.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
You don't need to reserve a spot or anything like
that and how can people get intouch with you and or, if they
need, they have questions aboutthe the airsoft side, because Is
there somebody they can reachout to?

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Probably the Facebook page, right?
Yeah, posting questions on theFacebook page would be Because
there's a couple of admins onthat page.
Yeah, that can see it yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
And I wanted to cover one more thing on the gun
rental stuff for machine guns.
What's the options for peopleto rent right now, kind of, what
are the prices?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
The AK is down.
We we had actually anexperience with shot show and we
cannibalized a lot of our AKparts to go to the shot show job
.
So we currently have theBarrett 50 for rent and 50 bucks
a head, 10 bucks a shot.
After that, sort of likegetting into a strip club, you

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pay your entry fee, you get afree drink with it.
So you pay 50 bucks, you getone free shot with it, and then
you pay for each drink afterthat.
Same thing with the MP5 and theSten gun.
Those are available.
Those are at $60.
And then the AR bog standard,standard AR.

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That starts at a hundred.
Um, we've got a lot of littleonesie, twosie machine guns in
the works.
Um, a G three, ppsh 41.
Um, what else is there?
Um, looking at doing an Uzi, acouple of other things.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Um, every time somebody an Uzi, a couple other
things, every time somebody saysUzi, I just think of that.
Steven Seagal movie, when Ithink he was in Jamaica and
there was a bunch of dudes, thebubba clot.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Bumba clot, bubba clot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
But yeah, we're always making more Sweet.
So machine gun rentals, airsoftsecurity what about the
security side?

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
So, the security side of things, uh, if you're
looking for security, uh hit meup.
I can put you in contact withour sales folks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Um what's the name of the security company signal
security.
Signal security, yeah, andthat's there.
You're based out of mevin foryour location, but you guys have
locations all around um, themain.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
The main office is actually in durham.
The mevin office is kind of asatellite location actually, now
, yeah, and then the t-shirtside becca what you got.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
How can people find you?
What's coming up.
The main office is actually inDurham.
The Mebane office is kind of asatellite location actually.
Now and then the t-shirt sideBecca what you got.
How can people find you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
What's coming up?
Well, you can find me at thesame brick and mortar location
as the gunsmith side 202 EastWashington Street, Mebane, right
across the Bowling Alleyparking lot.
It's that big brick building inthe Bowling Alley parking lot.
You can't miss it.
They can find me on Facebook atReba Elite Apparel.
They can email me at RebaEliteApparel at gmailcom.

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They can call my number.
Yeah, there's multiple ways toget a hold of me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Now, we didn't talk about this during this, but
maybe something me and you canget together on the future.
You have a whole art side thatwe didn't even address.
I've seen your murals.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
I've seen your, your, I've done a couple murals in
meban um I.
I've done a lot of painting inmy in my day are you open to
that type of work or?

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
absolutely discussions with people.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
If they have questions, they want to talk to
you about it um, I've been anartist gosh, I think
professionally like half my life.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I've seen your work.
It's obviously fantastic.
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Thank you, but yeah, I do everything from body art,
body painting, murals,commission work on canvases.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
So somebody can come into one building and basically
find all three of you and gettheir gun fixed, their T-shirts
made, their airsoft going theirmachine guns rented.
You guys are like an anarchistone-stop shop.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Well, I'm trying to learn how to make bread.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
You bought a drone.
Those homestead folk.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I forgot to mention.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
We have a friend of ours.
It's actually mybrother-in-law's girlfriend, she
makes goat milk soap and it'sawesome.
It's helped with my eczema andstuff like that and we're going
to start carrying her soap inthe store as well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
I convinced her to start doing shapes, so she's
doing like grenade shapesbullets?

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
I guarantee you, there's not a single grenade
soap in the planet outside ofyour shop and you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
It's my favorite one.
It's like cedarwood andsomething it smells so good.
Can you make a gunpowder soap?
Yes, we do have gunpowder soap.
She has gunpowder soap.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
I threw out a bunch of options for potential things
like shapes, like gun-relatedthings, and the gun things
didn't work too well.
Grenades have worked great.
She talked me out of bulletsspecifically because they're
kind of phallic and people willput them in places.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
It's kind of hard to shove a grenade up your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
You should come with a warning label that just says.
You should just have a warninglabel that says do not insert,
and then in parentheses, unlessyou want to Do not insert and
then in parentheses, unless youwant to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
But in all seriousness, her business name
is Butterhoof Bath Essentials.
God, that's a mouthful, butButterhoof Bath Essentials Sweet
.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Maybe we should talk to her too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, that would be awesome.
She was actually here today.
I had breakfast with her.
She was on her way back toRaleigh and I was like, hey,
stop in, I'll cook you breakfastNice.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Yeah Well, you know how this ends, doyle, you've
already signed our canvas.
For those of you listening,that might be your first time.
You don't know.
We have a canvas that all ofour guests sign at the end of 21
episodes.
We're going to try to auctionit off.
If nobody bids on it, we'lljust go to the Bitcoin core

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developer community.
So after we're done here, ifyou guys want to drop your names
on.
You can sign whatever colorsize, make a drawing whatever
you want, so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Thanks for having me guys.
Thanks for coming on, thanksfor having us.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
We'll talk to you guys soon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Thanks everybody.