#114 The Coral Castle Mystery

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Any one. And I looked out and there was this
big red bleek in UFO. I can just say this,
something's going on in the woods.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Something's going on.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
They're not dogs, they're not coyotes.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
What could it be? Right?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I had an encounter with a skunk cake and it
completely altered the course of my life.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I got a call got Tolock on building what about
saying sight of a UFO covering over a farm.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Really woke up from a dream.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
And when I went into the bedroom, she said, there's
a market there on the wall.

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They saw that the creature had run through a bombed
wire fence that they were able to obtain cares. They
sent hairs to their lab and it came back as
an online creature creature in Mary's.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
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Alex out, Well, thanks Alex for that awesome intro. Man.
He hit me up man, he sent me this email.
He said, you know what, you guys are my favorite podcast.
I got to do an intro for the show and
I got that.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
So I'm just kind of speechless. You have just rendered
me absolutely speechless. I have no idea what to say.
I mean, you said you had a special surprise. I
was not expecting it to be Ai Alex Jones.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Hey man, you are the hurricane, the hurricane in the sheets.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Now did Alex write that himself or did you do that?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Oh? He specifically Rody, He called you the hurricane in
the sheets? Who's bad? Or big bad boo daddy? And
this cannot be beat. So you gotta you gotta make
them proud, man, like you said, make me proud and
give the give the audience a banger of a show man.

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All right, we will try to give the people what
they want.

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Speaker 4 (05:27):
And getting into today's topic, this is one that Worn
has had sitting on the back burner for a little
bit a little while, and for anybody that caught the
last episode of Bizarre Inquiries, we're talking about it a
little bit. I believe we were talking about the pyramid stuff.
So I guess I will let you kind of leeway
and let them know what we're diving into today. Man.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, So, like you said, this is one that I've
kind of had cooked up for a little while. We
took a break from doing this one so we could
do the Solway Firth space man a couple weeks ago.
That was one I was really excited to do. But anyway,
we're gonna jump into the choral asshole stream.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Okay, Rick gets really, really really upset about when you
say the word coral so just look out for this episode, man,
because if you say it, Rick is probably just gonna
have to scream in the background. That's just how it's
gonna go.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Man, is this a Rick and Morty thing?

Speaker 4 (06:15):
No, it's a walking dead thing. Actually, Oh, it's supposed
to be caral, but he you know, it sounds like coral.
So I figured it would be fitting to throw some
enthusiasm for the word coral today.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Okay, we walking dead, not my thing.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Just as a preface though, just in case it gets
a bit ridiculous, I'm just gonna say this one right
in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Excuse me, I'm sorry. I'm out of control.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I apologize for that.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
We'll just get that one out of the way right
in the beginning, and with that without further ado or
and I'll let you get into it.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, you got any more little soundbites you want to do?
Or are we good to jump in? Oh?

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I got a lot more, but I got to wait
for the red opportunities.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Okay, I'm eagerly anticipating.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I had to wait for the first time you said
the word coral, and that was part of the excitement
for it. So I got a few more. They're on
the back of right front.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
All right, So without further ado, Coral Castle is this
like megalithic site. It's located near Homestead, Florida, which is
like thirty five miles south of Miami, so like real, real,
real South Florida. The site consists of over two hundred
and sixty carved limestone structures, and some of these things

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weigh like nearly thirty tons. Coral Castle was built over
the course of like several decades by this guy named
Edward lead skull In. And since lead skull In doesn't
really roll off the tongue, I'm just gonna call him
ed from here on out.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
And we can bring up a picture of ed if
anybody is curious what this gentleman looks like.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yep, that's what he looks like right there, Just that
little man in the bowler hat.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Early or late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, gentleman.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yes, yeah, and we're gonna talk about him a little
bit more here in a second. But some people have
claimed that Coral Castle was actually built using quote reverse
magnetism or super natural abilities. So this one is going
to get a little bizarre, maybe not as bizarre as
some of our past episodes. But anyway, so getting back

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to Ed.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Sorry, mister bean gets excited about magic Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I wasn't sure what we were doing there.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's mister b okay.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
So anyway, Ed was born on January twelfth, eighteen eighty seven,
in Riga, Latvia, and he came from a family of
stone masons, which is kind of interesting. And his grandfather
allegedly allegedly actually built a full ass castle in their
home land of Latvia, and that's going to kind of

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come up here in a little bit. But Ed, it's
been said, only received a fourth grade education, but he
was taught stonemasonry by his father. And this next bit's
pretty wild. When Ed was twenty six years old, his
sixteen year old fiance, who he referred to as his
sweet sixteen, which isn't creepy at all, broke off their

(09:01):
engagement on the night before their wedding. So that's going
to come up again here in a minute.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Daddy chill, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, Daddy Ed needed to chill.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
He's a chill the fuck out a lot.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
So anyway, after this happened, Ed was like heartbroken and
he immigrated to the United States and he arrived in
New York City on April seventh of nineteen twelve, and
soon after that he relocated to the Pacific Northwest and
he started working as like an axe handle maker. So
in the winter of nineteen twenty two, Ed was diagnosed

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with a terminal case of tuberculosis and he was given
only like six months to live, and so he moved
to Florida City, Florida, due to kind of just like
the warmer climates and the weather down there. It was
supposed to be like better for tuberculosis than the dreary
Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Weird thing with tuberculosis, Like remember the mammoth caves were
actually used as like a place where these do to
tuberculosis treatments. Like I find it's so strange that a
lung disease that you can't breathe, But let's put you
in a really like wet human place, Like I don't know,
I guess it makes sense, but.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, Florida, that's another wet human place.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Ain't got the truth. At least you get some of
the warmth with it, though. I feel like mammoth caves
kind of hit or miss depending on the season.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, and you're underground.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, not to mention that. I mean, who knows what
other debris and other shit might be floating around down
there on top of another tuberculosis from others. So a
lot of tuberculosis down there.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
When Ed got to Florida, he purchased an acre of
land and he paid only twelve dollars for this acre
of land in South Florida. So, man, if you got
some South Florida real estate in the nineteen twenties, you're
good to go.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, talk about kind of return on investment, is that right?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
That's like, uh, that generational thing man, where you'll see
like these families now that have like this giant piece
of property and they have like multiple houses on it
and they all live on it. And then you start
asking him like, hey, like how did you obtain this
piece of property and they're like, oh yeah, my grandfather
like one hundred years ago just pretty much walked up
and said this is my land and we've been living
here since. Like holy shit, man, I wish we still
had the same land claim losses back then. Man.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, but you still got to pay property taxes now,
so they kind of screw you one way or the other.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
But anyway, so Ed claimed that through like some kind
of combination of magnetism and like the Son's energy.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
No, you fucking can't, it's science.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
He was able to like miraculously cure his tuberculosis. And
so once he got cured, he began construction on what
would ultimately end up being like his life's work. And
it was a monument that was to be dedicated to
his sweet sixteen and what was it called? Well, oh,

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Coral col I wasn't sure what you were going for there.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
I just wanted to say that again. Hold on tight, guys.
We'll be right back after this brief commercial break.

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So jumping back in, we're going to talk a little
bit about Ed. So throughout his life he published like
numerous pamphlets on a variety of subjects. He talked about
magnetism a lot like magnetism was like his core thing, dude.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I found when just looking at random pictures of him.
There's a few different covers of these books that he
wrote that's elect magnetic current, Magnetic Current. I don't know,
I feel like I kind of want to copy this
book now.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm just saying, well, we're going to talk about that
again in a minute. But some of the other things
that he wrote about were like more I don't know,
like everyday issues, not quite so scientific. And one of
the subjects he referred to as moral education. And these

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are fucking wild. So he's got some like just crazy
ass opinions about like young girls and oh my god.
And in one of these he states that quote, girls
should be kept pure and that boys are primarily a
soiling influence upon them, and that quote, as everybody knows,
This is my favorite part. He just begins this like

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batshit opinion with as everybody knows, like it's just this fact,
but anyway, as everybody knows, there is nothing good that
can come to a girl from a fresh boy. When
a girl is sixteen or seventeen years old, she is
as good as she ever will be. But when a
boy is sixteen years old, he is then fresher than
in all history ages of development. To allow such a

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fresh thing to spoil a girl, it is wrong every time,
which to me just sounds like him justifying being engaged
to a sixteen year old. But that's just me.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Or he's an incel because he didn't have his chance
with his sixteen year old. So he's like, you know what,
women are great, but they should just exist over there
when we don't touch them.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Well, he goes on to say, and this is even funnier,
in my opinion, in case a girl's mama thinks that
there is a boy somewhere who needs experience than she
herself could pose as an experimental station for that fresh
young boy to practice on and so save the girl.
Nothing can hurt her anymore. She has already gone through

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all the experience that can be gone through, and so
in her case it would be all right. And hey,
it's kind of hard to argue with Ed there. I mean,
if some young boys interested in your daughter, I mean
you just fuck him instead, make it so.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Your daughter won't want him anyways. I mean, at that
point you're just getting sloppy seconds. I mean, two problems
solved in one one sweet one swift move.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Like you said, it would be all right anyway, you
better hope of ds like his moral education. So I
don't know if that's an education you would want to receive,
but anyway, there it is.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
I mean, it sounds like he's a couple steps away
from rating of manifest suff I'm being honest with you.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
He's a definite daddy child.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I'll give him one, all right.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
So some of his more like scientific pamphlets, it's said
that they could contain encoded messages like regarding his research
and techniques. And some people have also suggested that sweets
Sweet sixteen excuse me could refer not just to his fiance,
but also to quote the numerological and or scientific relevance

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of the number sixteen to his research and theories. So
we're going to go into depth about Coral Castle here
in a minute. But he spent like thirty years of
his life building this thing. But in November of nineteen
fifty one, he suffered a stroke and he died twenty
eight days later due to a kidney infection, and he

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was sixty four years old.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Well at least the sixteen year olds are safe, right.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, like you said, as everybody knows, so.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
As everybody clearly knows, all right, So.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Now we're going to talk a little bit more about
the actual Coral Castle aspect of Coral Castle.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Wait, say, what was that word again?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Coral corl So, after he purchased this plot of land
in Florida City, he began construction on like this two
story tall castle. So keep in mind, I said, you
know about his grandfather building a castle back in Lotvia,
So castle's running the family. So after he completed this castle,

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he opened it up to the public and it kind
of became known locally as Ed's Place. And he charged
a admission fee of ten cents to tour the castle,
and he actually led the tours himself, and whenever visitors
would ask him how he was able to like build
all this by himself, he would allegedly answer, quote, I

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understand the laws of weight and leverage, and I know
the secrets of the people who built the pyramids.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
How the fuck did we get to Egypt?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh? You just had that one on deck, didn't you.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, I was waiting for that one, Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
So in nineteen thirty six, there were plans for this
like subdivision to be built near his property, and so
he was like super secretive and private and rather than
you know, have this subdivision encroach upon his privacy, Ed
decided that he was literally going to like physically move
this castle. So he ended up moving at like ten

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miles north to its current location near Homestead, Florida. And
to do this, he kind of enlisted the help of
a local farmer named Bob Biggers. And this guy owned
a truck and trailer, and in regards to like this
whole moving process, Bob Bigger's sister later said, quote, he

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meaning Ed moved all of the rock objects alone from
Florida City. He would put them on a big trailer
and then have my brother Bob come and pull them
to the present location. Then he would say to Bob,
go on now, for I don't want anyone to bother
me while I work. And it took ed like over
two years to move the castle and like reassemble it

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in its current location. But yeah, so apparently he like
tore this thing down, mysteriously moved it himself, and mysteriously
put it back together himself.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
You should take some advice from Alex my.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Superpowers being honest, I will eat my neighbors well see.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's the thing. He didn't want a neighbors. That's why
he moved his castle.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
That's why he just hasked to eat them, like Alex said,
just eat them, So just fucking eat them.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Alex has chimed in, But uh, do you have anything
to add before we move on? I feel like I've
kind of been talking a lot so far this episode.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Well, I just want to point out just the simple
fact of we're already kind of at the point where
I'm sure we're gonna start breaking it down. But this
guy supposedly built these rock structures by himself and just
looking at it, like, I understand the aspect of maybe
being able to cut something once it's placed, but we're
gonna get into like the weird aspect of it. But like,
how the fuck did one single man move these giant

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stones like that is even moving into the truck, Like
I'm sure that that was a difficult task, And is
there like an added part to this where it mentions
like how they put them in the truck, like did
he use whatever this secret thing is or did he
literally like use like a Polley and put him in
the truck like normal? Because he didn't want to give
out a secrets.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
So it sounds to me like what happened was basically
like this Bob guy would bring the truck and trailer
and then ED would like load everything up, and then
Bob would like come back and drive the truck and
trailer to the new location, and then Ed would unload
everything and tell him, you know, leave me alone. I

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don't want to be bothered while I work. So this
guy basically just like transported the shit for him, is
my understanding.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
So, yeah, he didn't even get to see how he
put this stuff on the truck. So I was hoping
that there'd be an extra additional piece where like one
person saw him like doing whatever he did to move
these things, and then maybe you'd have like a good
starting point to maybe figure this stuff out.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
But well, we're going to get into a bit of
speculation about that here in a minute. But uh so,
kind of jumping back in. After he moved the castle,
Ed began this like decades long process of like expanding
out the entire complex. And this is the complex that
you've got the pictures pulled up for now that initially

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or eventually became known as Coral Castle. So at the
time it was, you know, just the castle and Ed's
place and all that, and after many years this when
it became known as Coral Castle. We're going to get
into the details of that later as well. But throughout
the years he built like a ton of stone structures,

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including a functioning sun dial that accurately told the time
of day, the seasons, and the solstices.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Or is that just like a watchtower that.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Might be then No, I don't think that's the sun dial.
He also built an obelisk, which could be that, which
is kind of interesting in light of like everything we
talked about with obelisks when we were talking about the Freemasons.
But he also built a polaris telescope which accurately pointed
to the North Star. He built a twenty three ton

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crescent moon, which you can see in a lot of
the pictures you've got pulled up there. Yeah, that's it
right there. And he also built a lot of other
like astrological structures you can kind of see in that
picture you've got pulled up Shane to the left, Saturn,
Saturn right there. So a lot of the stuff he
built was like astrologically motivated, which I think is kind

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of interesting too.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Did this guy have links to the Freemasons, And that
being asked, he said that is obviously his family was
like stone workers, and they were coming from Lafia, and obviously,
like the whole Freemason thing started over on that side
of the world. So like, I wonder if like his
parents were involved in the Freemasons, his ancestors were, Like,
in a weird way, I kind of feel like he
may not have like figured this out himself, but rather

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they have had some family knowledge from something, because they'll
astrological science and specifically making the moon and Saturn.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
And the obelisk. But yeah, that's something I kind of
got in like theories and thoughts. Later, I never found
anything that specifically said he or his family were part
of the Freemasons, but like we said, they came from
a long line of stone Masons, So I mean it's
very possible as far as I'm concerned, especially when we

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get into some of this other stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I mean, even going off of that, I mean, even
if you had like a great great great grandfather that
was involved. I mean, you're obviously supposed to keep the
secrets within the brotherhood, but that doesn't mean that everybody
always listens to that, so, I mean there could have
been some family secrets that were freemason secrets, and just
because he wasn't involved doesn't mean that that's not the
direct line where these things came from. But even just
like knowing the power of that again, it's like Saturn,

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Like the whole concept with that, like something fascinating that
I was kind of diving into lately, is this whole
idea that like Saturn itself is like a gas giant,
so it doesn't even have like a surface that you
can even go and exist on, so essentially it's just
this giant destructive force which goes into this loop about
like destroying to rebuild the whole like Shiva concept. Like
I don't know, it's just been like a weird rabbit

(23:47):
hole I've been diving down lately. And I feel like
when people use Saturn symbology specifically, like there's no other
like link in my mind that they just they're aware
of something, because why else would people have this fascination
with Saturn And when it's not even a planet you
can quote like go to and put your feet on,
you know, like.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well, Saturn's like really big across the occult, you know,
like it shows up not just with Freemason type stuff,
but like there's the whole like black cube thing with Saturn.
So yeah, there's definitely something to unpack there, and kind
of circling back around to one of your earlier points.
Even though that we haven't found anything that specifically links

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him to the Freemasons, it's just like almost too much
of a smoking gun for me. Like this guy with
stone masonry backgrounds from Europe built this crazy thing that
nobody knows how he did it, and there's these you know,
vaguely occult monuments and symbols in this park that he built.

(24:47):
You know, there's just too much smoke there for there
not to be some sort of fire as far as
I'm concerned, just.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Out of curiosity to him. Trying to look it up
on a map. Obviously, like the Freemasons that we know,
the Illuminati like, obviously it goes way back to like
like biblical times, but the start of like the Freemasons
themselves would have been in Bolivia, So I'm kind of
curious how far Bolivia is from which country you say
it was from again, Lafia, Via. Yeah, so I'm trying
to look it up on a map.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Here I mean, I would think it can't be too
far in the scheme of things.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
No, Eric Blah, I'm gonna bring it up so you
can see it too and you can help me peak
at this because if it's not that far, I mean again,
even if it's a couple of countries over like, it's
definitely within that range that I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, no matter what, Like, it's all the same general.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Area like Lithuania. I mean, it's all you have the eastern.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Lot Via right there, Riga that's where this guy was from.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Where you've seen that at h up up up up.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
You see lithuan down right there. Okay, so that Riga
Latvia that's where Ed was born.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
There's Lafia, so yeah, I mean it's it's still like right,
it's it's within northern Europe.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
What was the other one you were looking for?

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Bolivia?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, I don't know off the top of my head
where that's.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
That's by like Germany and shit, So it's like over
in this area somewhere. But anyways, like I said, it's
it's all within like the northern Ara general area. So
I mean, obviously the Secret Society started spreading out from
I mean, this starts pretting out in Europe. They made
it all the way to the United States, So, like,
is it really that far off that some of these
secrets wouldn't have made it up to Lithuania. I mean,

(26:24):
doesn't seem that far off to me, and especially.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Talking about in our Free Mason episode, they were referred
to as free Masons because they could freely travel between
European countries, which the normal person could not do back
in those days.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
And let me point something else out that's kind of weird.
So obviously this would have been I'm assuming within like
the Soviet Union area anyway, so this all would have
been like involved as the same land at that point.
So I don't know how far you've dug into like
the whole like secret that the Kremlin and everything might
hold as far as like they claim that they have
like all this history that's been just and there's like

(27:00):
a bunch of conspiracy theories that go into the reason
why like we've always been after Russia to try to
attack them. It's because they're privy to all this like
weird information that goes back like way farther than we
expected that might like change history and everything. So I mean,
if you're somebody that's diving into these weird ocult concepts,
and you're kind of within that area. I mean, it
doesn't seem too far off that you know, he, his family,

(27:21):
him may not have done some type of like either
one been privy to some knowledge that people from Soviet
Union were privy to, or on the flip side, if
they were actually doing this like magnetic research and everything, like,
maybe he would have been privy to some other information
that may have been in like the Kremlin. I mean,
there might even be a link not just the Freemasons,
but to whatever the secret of could information is that's

(27:41):
coming out of Russia too well.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
To take it a step further, not something that I
really put a ton of stock, and but I mean
that could very easily get into like totaria type stuff
at that point. You know, it's the same general geographic
area we're talking about. You know, these crazy buildings that
people still today don't know how they were built. So
maybe there's a little nugget of something there too.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, I mean that may even be part of it,
that some of this tartarian technology was just this understanding
of like the best way that I seemed to understand
the whole concept of tartarian technology is essentially the type
of stuff that like Tesla was working on. So Tesla
was looking obviously into. Honestly, something doesn't seem too far
off from this whole like frequency vibration concept, So I

(28:25):
mean it's still again kind of seems like it could
be all within that same realm of like that Tartarian
occult Victorian era type research.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know, yeah, definitely, yeah, No, I think there's definitely
something to unpack there, So kind of jumping back in
probably like the most famous structure that ED built was
a nine ton eight foot tall stone gate, And allegedly
this gate was like so well balanced that you could

(28:55):
open and close it with just like the touch of
a finger.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Was it this one?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, that's it right there. So in nineteen eighty six,
the stone gate like just suddenly stopped working and it
took six men and a crane to repair it. And
during the course of these repairs they kind of figured
out like what its secret was. So ED had quote
drilled a hole talped to bottom and inserted a metal shaft.

(29:22):
That sentence was just hilarious, got in terror and the
rock rested on an old truck bearing. It was the
rusting out of this bearing that resulted in the gates'
failure to revolve. Complete with new bearings and shaft ha
ha ha ha. It was set back into place on
July twenty third of nineteen eighty six. It failed in

(29:46):
two thousand and five and was again repaired. However, it
does not rotate with the same ease it once did.
So here again, this guy supposedly built all this by himself,
but yet it took six men and a crane to
repair this thing.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
So do you have some notes in here on like
what this stuff is made out of, because I'm assuming
that this theory has already been suggested a few times.
But it almost kind of looks like something you could have,
like uh like almost like a concrete you know, like
something that's kind of like but it's.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Not actually coral. It's a type of limestone called uh oohlite,
I think is how it would be pronounced. And it's
called coral castle because this type of limestone like just
has like pock marks and like little holes and indentions,
and that makes it look like coral. So it's not
actually coral. It's limestone.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Okay, that makes sense because even on the other side too,
It's like, even if you did make it out of
some type of concrete, I guess I'm disproving my own idea,
you still would have been able to like move it
once it was all put together, to even put it
up in those trucks. So there's still a component of
like you could have just made some some concrete thing
in a certain area, because you still have to move it.
So that's still the challenging part right there. But so

(31:00):
I'm assuming this stone though, naturally has all these pockets
and everything, so it's not like a like a malleable
type of concrete stone. Then.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, So my understanding is I think this is like
a little later in the notes, but a lot of
this limestone he like basically quarried from the actual property.
It was already there, Like the stone for the castle.
I'm not sure where that came from, but like everything

(31:31):
all the like everything got pulled up in the pictures here,
like the gate and the crescent moon, all that was
basically from this oolite limestone that he quarried from the
actual property.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
So it all came from directly in that area. Okay,
So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
And even like the stone for the castle, came from
that like general area, and he only moved the castle
a few miles, so like all this material came from
a very small geographic area.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I guess it kind of disproves my whole theory right
off the bat. But again I still think that there's
I don't I won't even get into I wait till
we get into theories and stuff because I don't want
to jump too far ahead. Don't go anywhere, guys, We'll
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Speaker 4 (32:42):
And we are back with the high strangeness. Let's get
back into.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
It all right. So this newly like expanded complex ed
began referring to it as rock Gate Park, obviously named
after the big stone gate that he built. And he
also opened this up to the public and when visitors
would like arrive at the complex, they would ring a
bell that was located at the front gate, and Ed

(33:06):
would come down from his living quarters and the castle
and lead the tours himself. And you know, economy's bad,
inflation's bad. This time he asked for twenty five cent donations.
I mean before it's just ten cents, but I mean
he had to hope that twenty five cents.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Now, hey, man, with the times things happen.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Limestone ain't free even though he harvested it himself.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
You know what this story's really reminiscent of is I
don't remember that. I think we're talking about it a
little bit on the Hermit episode for a second, or
maybe I brought it up the first time I talked
to Timothy. But there was this guy who during the
depression era, he built this like structure out of just
like a bunch of like random garbage and random pieces,
and he essentially built this like castle type thing that

(33:49):
he lived in out of like random objects. But this
seems like very like reminiscent of that, and almost weirdly enough,
some of the hermit stories that we talked to last
week that there's generally this like, oh, I had my
heart broken and these guys just go off and do
these weird, crazy accomplishments.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
And it also reminded me of it's been a while
since we talked about it, but do you remember when
we talked about like George van Tassel and the Integratron. Yeah,
it's kind of like that to me, just basically, like
this crazy guy just goes and builds this crazy thing
himself and nobody quite knows how he did it.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
You know, here here it is. Uh, I think I
found a picture of it, just to bring this up
to show everybody. Okay, I found it, all right, Uh
oh screenchair. Okay, so we called it Palace of Depression.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
But yeah, I see like this literally like took a
bunch of random shit and literally built like a like
a depression era castle out of just random random shit.
Like maybe we can do an episode on this guy
one day, but like I don't know, just these stories
seemed very like reminiscent of each other, you know. Oh, yes,
you can look at this damn door, like there you go.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah. But now, since we're kind of diving into more
like folklory type stuff here recently, yeah, I think that
would be a fun one to do and like you said,
a lot of correlations with this one.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
You know, I'm sure we could probably find even more,
Like I don't you didn't have any like giant objects,
and it wasn't some like feet like that, but just
like just the concept, like it's fascinating, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
All right, So jumping back into the notes, and we
have already covered a lot of this, but the vast
majority of the over one thousand tons of ooh light
limestone that were used to build this thing, ed quarried
it on the property himself. No mortar was used, and
the stones are held together using only their own weight,

(35:44):
And it's been said that they're so precisely aligned that
no light is able to pass through the joints, which
is pretty crazy when you think about it.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Sounds to me like a lot of these ancient structures,
which is exactly what the pyramids and shit. Yeah, I
keep talking about with again. I think he was privy
to some knowledge. I don't think he discovered something necessarily,
but I think he already kind of had like a
head start on this just because he probably he had
something from his family. Dude, like there's there's got to
be something there.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Well, I'm gonna save my thoughts to the end. But
I'm kind of on the same page with you, all right.
So Ed continued to work on the complex until his
death in nineteen fifty one, and after his death, the
property came into the ownership of his closest living relative.
But he was actually kind of like a hermit himself.

(36:35):
He was considered like an eccentric by the community. So
he really didn't have any close family or friends. And
his closest living relative was a nephew in Michigan, So
your neck of the woods.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Hey, there's a lot of a cold history in Michigan.
Just throw that in there.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
But in nineteen fifty three, the property was purchased by
a retired jeweler from Chicago named Julie eleven and this
guy changed the name of the complex to Coral Castle.
Before that, it was still known as Rockgate Park, and
he changed the name and began like widely advertising it

(37:12):
and operating it as a tourist attraction. Like before, if
you were, you know, kind of there in the area,
you could come and Ed would give you a tour himself.
But once this guy bought it, it kind of became
what we think of it as today.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Tourist location.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, there you go. And in nineteen eighty one, this
guy sold the property to a holdings company that went
by the name of Coral Castle, Inc. And he sold
it for a hundred and seventy five thousand dollars, which
would be a little over six hundred thousand dollars in
today's money, which I mean, doesn't it seem like a
crazy amount of money for this thing to me? You know?

(37:51):
I mean here in Raleigh you can buy just like
a totally normal house for six hundred thousand dollars, and
I'd way rather have this thing.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yeah right, just point this out. I don't know if
you added this as part of the notes. Do you
see this Polaris telescope?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, yeah, we talked about it a little bit. Yeah,
that points to the North Star. Yeah, like look at that, dude.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
That's tell me that doesn't again, seem reminiscent of all
these ancient structures.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Like megalithic structures.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yes, exactly, especially especially this, Like look how precise that is.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like all those like Mayan structures that
can like tell the solstices and things like that. It's
the same general idea, Like.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
It looks like on this picture, you're like looking through
one hole to look through another hole that looks through
another hole, which perfectly lines it up. Like you imagine
how much time it took to drill these holes perfectly
in that line.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Well, unless he had some sort of occult knowledge done
dunk done, which is a perfect segue in two thoughts
and theories. Okay, So this kind of mystery of how
Ed built this thing has persisted for decades now, as
we've kind of talked about. So Ed was just over

(39:02):
five feet tall and rayed away excuse me, roughly one
hundred and twenty pounds. So he's a little guy, and
you know, how is he able to construct all this
himself when he like worked mostly alone and mostly at night.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Look how tall they make him look in these pictures.
I just want to point that out, like talk about
some strategic placement of pictures like that. That dude does
not look like he's only five foot in that picture.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
And I think that's actually like a cardboard cutout that's
at Coral Castle. Like if you go visit it that
previous picture that you had pulled up, you can like
take your picture with that thing. So I don't know
if it's life size or not. It could be like
six and a half feet tall, and he's just like
really flattering himself.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
I mean even in these pictures that dude doesn't well
maybe he does look like he's that short, but he doesn't.
At the same time, I don't know, like well.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I mean even though people were like smaller back then,
that's still like a very little person, you know.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yeah, holy shit, that's like tiny. Dude. That just brings you, again,
even more weirdness to this whole thing, because I've heard
this story a million times, but I've never heard his
size with the sake of it, because apparently people don't
deem that as important information. But like, yeah, that just
makes it even crazier. Dude, Like, can you imagine one
hundred and twenty pound person trying to lift even like

(40:14):
something that's one hundred pounds and not struggling.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well, that's why some people speculate that he possessed some
sort of occult knowledge that allowed him to like manipulate
the Earth's magnetic energy and levitate the stone blocks.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Doesn't that sound like my UFO theory that I'm always
throwing a little.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Bit, And this I think is kind of interesting. And
you'll like this tidbit. So Allegedly, at one point, a
group of local teenagers snuck onto the property one night,
and one of them later claimed quote Ed calls the
blocks of coral to move like hydrogen balloons. So whether
that's just you know, kids playing around or there's anything

(40:52):
to it, I don't know, but anyway, these kids claimed that.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Then these kids also claim that they heard like vibration
and like humming and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, yeah, the underground humming that people here. But kind
of like all these more fantastical claims, Ed kind of
played into them himself, and as we talked about a
little bit, he had like a lot of unconventional theories
on magnetism and things like that, and he believed that quote,

(41:20):
the animating force in the universe does not come from
the protons and electrons in the atom, but rather from
tiny magnets of different and opposite polarity that imbue all matter.
And he also said that quote, electricity is made up
of two magnetic forces that move opposite each other in
a double helix motion, and this I think is really cool.

(41:44):
He claimed that he was able to construct a machine
he called the perpetual motion holder, and allegedly this machine
was quote composed of two coiled wires, each having its
own terminal and current, and connected to each other knows
to tail in a circuit. This completed circuit allowed individual

(42:06):
magnets to form into one of two currents, and the
currents to chase each other in a never ending loop.
So that's a lot of words salad, but basically it's
this guy had some like crazy ideas about magnetism and
you know, the Earth's energy and things like that, and
he allegedly like built this device that allowed him to

(42:27):
manipulate these stones and place them. So do you have
any thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (42:32):
I mean, look at things through time that there's the
generally believed idea of how things work, and then there's
some heretic that starts throwing these crazy theories, like you know,
we're not the center of the universe, we're not this
and everybody for even like one hundred years, two hundred
years after their death were like this person's bat shit
fucking crazy. But then here it is a couple hundred
years later, we're looking back and we're like, wow, that

(42:53):
person was right, and everybody else around them was crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, what's the saying like yesterday's magic is today's technology
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, so I mean that by that being said, I
mean these may sound like some crazy theories, but you know,
maybe he was just ahead of his time as far
as understanding goes, and it's just a matter of time
before we get to a point where this stuff logically
makes sense. But again, going back to that like occult
knowledge concept, like I don't I say this all the
time in the show. I don't think the occult is
what people think it is. I don't think it's this magic.

(43:22):
I don't think it's I think it's sciences that don't
have specific names yet. So when you are privy to
this occult knowledge, it's not like you have some piece
of knowledge that you can manipulate, like the universe necessarily,
but rather you have a head start as far as
building blocks go to understanding these principles because somebody is
actually laying down the groundwork before you. It's kind of

(43:42):
like how research works in mainstream that there's all the
people that come beforehand that build up to the research,
the research progresses as a whole. I think that's how
this whole occult knowledge aspects work is that there's all
these occult sciences and research and it's just a matter
of it works fundamentally the same that the next generation
figures out more than the last generation. The last generation

(44:02):
figured out more than the next generation. So it's almost
like this like fringe opposite of like what you believe
like the mainstream sciences are, but clearly like they're understanding
these sciences can kind of differ from like what we
have an understanding of because we always talk about this
aspect of like you know, everything's technology, everything's you know,
made with computer chips. With this, with that, this occult knowledge, again,

(44:24):
they could have had an understanding of how to do
things from a different way, like how to manipulate stone
instead of knowing how to manipulate electricity. So, you know,
this may be lost knowledge, but it may be completely
simple knowledge to somebody that understands it and their mind
has been working in that way for a long time.
Because it's kind of like that idea of like learning
a new philosophy. You know, if you're already set in
stone this particular way, this whole idea, I say, what

(44:46):
you did there, Yeah, isn't going to make any sense
to you. But if you already have like a fundamental
understanding of it. Then again, this this will make sense
to you, but it won't make sense to anybody else.
And so we're looking at this guy like he's crazy.
But if it takes the right person with the right eyes,
like everything he's saying completely fucking makes sense. It connects
something that they've been working on, you know, well, and.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Just on like a purely definition level, like a lot
of people use a cult to mean like devil worship
or something spooky like that, when really that just means hidden.
You know. Occult knowledge means hidden knowledge. It's not necessarily
something dark and scary and you know, malevolent, it's just

(45:26):
something that's hidden for whatever reason. So that could be
you know, something that people like you said once had
this knowledge and it fell out of favor, or it's
you know, knowledge that is going to be rediscovered. Who knows.
But yeah, I just think when as soon as you
say the word a cult, a lot of people just
you know, start clutching their pearls. But it's not nearly

(45:48):
as spooky an idea as a lot of people want
to think.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
That's what I'm always saying, Like, I think the main
component of what we view as the occult, like in
the aspect of the Illuminati in the Freemasons, is this
master understanding of psychology mixed with philosophy, because that is
a force to be reckoned with, because if you can
want to manipulate somebody's philosophy on how they view the world,
and on top of that you're using these dark quote
dark psychology tricks to manipulate the way that they perceive

(46:14):
and do things, then that's just you know, that's almost
like the fundamentals of like a cult starting. And I've
thrown the ideas a million times about this that you
need coverage within people that think that they're part of
this bigger mass. So if you have an understanding that
what you're teaching is philosophy and psychology, but the people
you're teaching it to don't understand that that's what you're

(46:35):
teaching them, then they're viewing this thing like it's this
satanic religion when you actually know that you're just using
sciences that they don't understand. But you're now blanketed behind
this whole idea about oh, they're using magic, instead of
actually somebody diving into the fact that they just have
a master understanding of psychology and how to manipulate the
human psyche because it's just a coverage barrier for what

(46:55):
they're actually doing. You know, they'd rather have you think
they're doing all this wou devil worsh then something that's
a literal science that somebody could take home and do
right now. I think that's where the whole idea started
in the first place. Was you started off with this
group that's like, all right, this is some knowledge that
not everybody should have because people can do some damage
with this. And then as generations go on, those people

(47:16):
start feeling elitist because they're private to this knowledge that
other people have, and then they turn into the monsters
that they were trying to fight against in the first place,
and they start using this stuff against people to do
it in their aspect. And I think that's that's kind
of where all this weird mucking the water comes in,
with a lot of this like a cold philosophy. But
not to get off on a side tangent.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
But yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
what does magic actually mean?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
You know?

Speaker 4 (47:39):
But misunderstood science?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
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Speaker 1 (48:18):
And now back to the show, so kind of jumping
back in. It's also been speculated, and this is something
that I didn't find a whole lot of information about,
but that ed you sound waves to move these blocks,
and some article I read, I can't remember what it
was off the top of my head. It even said
that he had like these strange cone shaped objects that

(48:41):
he used to like project these sound waves and move
the stones. So take that with a grain of salt,
but I thought it was kind of interesting and worth
throwing in there. And of course there's the more down
to earth type theories that he just used, like levers
and wheels and axles and pulleys and ramps and wedges
and things like that to construct the castle. And also

(49:05):
so despite this like claim that no one ever saw
ed work, there are actually like photographs and a few
eyewitness accounts that show him like using pulleys and other
like primitive tools to move these stone blocks, which, as
we'll get into a little bit with like conclusions and miscellaneous.
Even if that's the case, I think it kind of

(49:26):
misses the point. But do you have anything else before
we kind of start wrapping things up.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I mean, that's the hard part about this stuff that
comes from the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds is
one you had this whole aspect of small town stories.
So even diving into a lot of our cryptid research,
man like there could have been something small that happened,
but everybody blew it into this thing that was way
bigger than what it was. Because people wanted these stories
because there wasn't much going on in these small talents,

(49:51):
they made them bigger than what they actually were. And
even on the other side, like during this time was
also when like the spiritual movement was happening, where everybody
would doing all these like oh I can talk to
the dead. I can be a medium, I can do this,
and everybody was trying to pull a curtain over everybody's
eyes because things weren't as easily disproved back then, Like
you had people like Cudini going around and trying to

(50:12):
disprove every single charlatan. But on the flip side of it,
like it's not like he can make it to everywhere
with every single claim. So you had so many people
doing these hoaxes without any way of people easily being
able to prove their hoax because you didn't have like
internet solution shit. So essentially, I think that you have
a lot of these stories that there could be something
to them, there could be absolutely nothing to them, but

(50:34):
they're always going to exist in this place of obscurity
with the mindset in the back of your head that
during the early nineteen hundred's, like people were purposely making
these stories to do something interesting, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, And I think kind of like we talked about
with this alway for space man, a lot of this
stuff can just very quickly kind of take on a
life of its own, you know.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Yeah, they see one guy in here moving all these blocks.
I mean he could have literally been using pollies and
just want to be left alone. But as soon as
people started creating the story, I mean, how many there's
a lot of people just run with it, you know.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Well yeah, and my understanding is like Ed really didn't
do a whole lot himself to like promote this and
try to gain notoriety. Yeah, like if people literally knocked
on his door and gave him ten cents or twenty
five cents when times got hard, he'd give them a tour.
But it wasn't like he was like trying to make
money off of this thing, you know.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
I mean in a weird way, though, I think that
there might be a subconscious thing with that, because at
the end of the day, it's like everybody wants to
leave some type of legacy, like whether you admit it
or not, Like every man, every woman, everybody, they want
to be able to leave their impression on this world.
And if he had this family history of you know, stonework,
all this type of stuff, I mean, essentially, what this

(51:48):
guy did, regardless of the stories and how he did it,
he he made his family name and himself like a
piece of time that's always going to exist and always
going to be talked about. So he made his mark.
He made his legacy, regardless of which way you look
at it. At the end of the day, man, I mean,
that's what everybody wants to do. Man, They want to
make their mark on history. So can't blame the guy
regardless if you just did something interesting and people want

(52:09):
the stories like it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Man, even if it is a monument to his sixteen
year old fiance.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I mean, that would explain the stars in the moon. Right,
it seems like a like a prepubescent bedroom. Right, Chill, wait,
excuse me. I'm sorry, I'm out of control. I apologize
for that, all right.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
So kind of jumping back into miscellaneous and conclusions type stuff. So,
Coral Castle has been referred to as Florida's Stonehenge, which
I thought was kind of fun.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Florida's Stonehenge.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, And in nineteen eighty four it was added to
the National Register of Historic Places. Throughout the years, it's
been featured on like numerous television programs, including Ancient Aliens,
which is probably the first place I you know, came
to know about this. But it was also on an
episode of In Search of back in the eighties, which

(53:05):
was hosted by Leonard Nimoy, who is the original doctor Spot.
So that's kind of fun, livelong and prosper my friends.
There you go. So this is kind of funny too,
So Billy Idol like the rock star you know Na's
day for a whitet wedding. You know that guy. So
he started eighteen yes, yeah, So he had a nineteen

(53:27):
eighty six album called Whiplash Smile and it features a
song titled Sweet sixteen. And this song was like actually
inspired by like ed and you know, the fiasco with
his fiance and the construction of Choral Castle, And the
music video for the song was actually filmed at chral

(53:47):
Castle itself. So I mean it's not a particularly good song.
I listened to it just just for research. But yeah,
if you guys want to, like just look up on
YouTube the video for it. That'll give you a kind
of an idea of this place, which is kind of
funny in and of itself.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Possible another weird occult tie here. How many seventies and
eighties bands have songs that reference a sixteen year old girl?
Because you have Christine sixteen by kiss that's just another example.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Like kiss from your neck of the woods.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
So I mean that being said man like, obviously a
lot of these old rock bands, regardless on their level
of involvement, they definitely dived into the occult. Like clearly
there's something with the number sixteen, sixteen year old girl, Like,
I don't know, I feel like there's a there's a
Freemason archetype that we're looking at here that were it's
plainly in front of us. I just don't know like

(54:39):
what the name of this archetype is, but there's I
feel like there's something there with it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
You know, Oh, maybe that's something you can dig in
for one of your kind of what do you call
your free flowing.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Oh my weird research research shows, Come with Me on
a Journey of research shows Shane.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Jones' Journey episode. So anyway, Coral Castle is also kind
of regarded as like a paranormal hotspot, and it's been
said that the you know, big Stone Gate thing could
be like a vortex and quote a major grid point
of the planet, so kind of like a lay line

(55:20):
type situation which would go right into you know, Ed's
ideas about magnetism and things like that. And it's also
been said that quote people who are sensitive to electromagnetic
energy fields will sometimes report headaches while standing inside the archway,
So I thought that was kind of interesting. And there's
also been several reports of like ghostly apparitions and disembodied

(55:44):
voices and quote inexplicable movements around the complex, which has
led some people to believe that Coral Castle is haunted
by Ed's ghost, even though he died at the hospital
and not at the actual castle.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Just to throw this in here as an additional thing,
the isoteric meaning of the number sixteen indicates you have
recently acquired new knowledge and face a decision. You will
need to call upon qualities such as strength and self control.
In the case of addiction, the sixteen will appear if
you have taken the decision to quit. The sixteen card
of the tarot, for example, is the Tower, which means
the breaking down of old forms. Although the imagery looks

(56:22):
like a disaster scene, the tower is actually a great
card to pull in a taroor reading, as it signifies
a change in your life.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
That's pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Yeah, that seems like I said, there's something there, man.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I mean, especially in light of you know Ed started
all of this after he got his heart broken and
he came back and then built a monument or a tower,
if you will. So, yeah, I think there's definitely something
to unpack there, And it kind of goes back to
the idea that, you know, the sixteen has a larger
meaning in his research and not just his fiance. But anyway,

(56:56):
what were you gonna say.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
In jementria the isoteric meaning of the number sixteen corresponding
with the symbolic meaning of the number seven. There is
a divine number of mother goddesses which bears a resemblance
to Binya in the Cabal Tree of Life. This gives
us a clue that's seven and thrust. The sixteen relates
to the accusation of knowledge again going back to that

(57:18):
and talking about this idea of a mother goddess, which
again goes into this sixteen year old female archetype thing
going on. Like I think that it's it's a symbolic
thing that people are using this sixteen maybe to basically
say that, like I've acquired a new piece of knowledge,
like maybe come and question me. And if people have
this idea that they're seeing this sixteen symbology, it's basically

(57:39):
a calling card. It's almost seems like it could be
used as a calling card. I'm just making a claim here.
I don't know if this is true or not, but
it seems like it could be a calling card to
other people that are aware of the occult, to say
that I've acquired something new, come ask me about it.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Well, And that kind of fits in with some of
the thoughts and speculation that we've talked about tonight. So yeah,
I think you're definitely, if not onto something. It's interesting
to think about in light of all this.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
You know, God, always leave the Google up, man, You
never know what little side tangents you might end up
diving into. Man, But once you it's one of those things,
it's patternick nition.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Man.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
You see sixteen enough and start questioning stuff, and then
it's not even just like, oh, these people aren't related
like kiss very occult, Billy Idle, very cult. This guy
clearly has some type of weird culte last name is
Idle exactly, yep. And he has the completely like white hair,
which is like this other symbolic thing like dude. Again,
there's regardless of the level of understanding that they may

(58:33):
have with the occult, Like a lot of these rock
stars and stuff have some type of knowledge of the occult,
even if they're not necessarily in the group. You know.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Oh, I mean, I think it's one of those chicken
and egg situations. Like there's some people like, you know,
we talked about Jimmy Page like literally buying Aleister Crowley's mansion. Like,
there's some people that I think are absolutely like in
the know and actively engage in this type stuff. And
then I think there's probably other people that are like, oh,

(59:01):
this is just like the cool thing that rock stars do,
and you know, they're probably more passive in the whole thing.
It's kind of like we talk about with Freemasons or
anything like that, Like it's like a club within a
club type situation. Ninety percent of them aren't up to
anything nefarious, but then you got, you know that ten
percent upper eschelon that might be doing some shit.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
So see to flip this into another more real world
thing talking about musicians, So everybody thinks again of like
occult musicians being these like Satan worshipers all this type
of stuff. What if that's not the case at all.
It's just a matter of again going back into psychology,
that they know that there's these certain vibrational patterns or
certain frequencies that they can play that will draw people

(59:42):
to them. So you see that there's these like how
do these how do these people get so famous so quick?
Maybe it's again an understanding of psychology that they know
how to put these certain frequencies together that will literally
like draw people to it so people can't help. But
because that's that's usually what happens with these songs. It's
like you'll hate the song, but it'll get stuck in
your head like there's there's something to it. And I

(01:00:03):
think that that's where the occult knowledge comes in with
these musicians, is that they understand what sounds and frequencies
almost get people addicted to hearing those sounds and frequencies.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
And to not just go totally off the top rope
with this, but.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
A lot of glory, sorry, oh Keesling reference a lot
of you know, these bands, once they get big music
label backing, you know, there's a lot you can dig
into with the music labels and the mechanisms behind them
and things of that nature.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
So you know, even if the artists themselves aren't privy
to a lot of this stuff, you know, the powers
that be and the people that are pulling the strings
probably most definitely are you know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
And actually I had John Gusty from The Red Pill
Revolution on inquiries recently and he's worked behind the scene
for the music industry, and he was talking about this
whole concept that basically, like a person becomes fan and
then that name, that person, that identity becomes like a trademark,
meaning that like you're paying to see Taylor Swift, for example,

(01:01:08):
this is what he was saying, and Taylor Swift has
multiple people that look just like Taylor Swift, so you're
not paying to see the Taylor Swift, You're paying to
see the archetype of Taylor Swift. Because he's even said
that he has a friend who will take these recordings
of live concerts and Taylor Swift in particular, and a
couple of them. He pointed out this effect that if
somebody's actually singing, every single time they record the song,

(01:01:29):
it's gonna be a hair bit different. There's gonna be
a little bit of vocal range changes, like it's never
gonna be exactly the same. But this other person that's
researching has found that a bunch of these like artists,
they are doing these big concerts for ten different cities.
You can put the sound waves next to each other
and they're exactly the same. And then when you start
looking at the people, you start noticing these weird differences, like,
for example, like the Biden thing with a detached ear lobes.

(01:01:51):
You'll notice little things like that. So it's this whole
idea that like one, it becomes this this archetype of
a person. It's not the person anymore. So that can
easily be controlled by the label because you're essentially selling
your character to that label, and then you can walk
away from that at any time and they're gonna keep
still filling that role. So with that, of course you
use this of cult psychology to keep people wanting to

(01:02:13):
see this character, and it becomes this again, this money
addiction almost where it's like people are gonna hear this beat,
they're gonna love it, it's gonna get stuck in their head,
they're gonna buy this next album. They're gonna buy this
next album, and it's almost like an addiction to this,
like dopamine hit from hearing these particular frequencies for example.
But weird thing to think about, man, like the whole
like archetype of a musician existing because it's like bands

(01:02:34):
are bands, but like these single idol people. It goes
into again this whole other idea of this like occult
warship idolizing concept. So when you get into that aspect,
it almost makes sense that it wouldn't be necessarily a
person anymore, but rather like like an archetype idea, an idea,
rather than a specific person at that point, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Well one it's Steve Jobs said something like, if you
want to get famous and rich, sell an idea, like
Apple is not selling phones and laptops are selling an idea.
It's kind of the same concept, you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Know, yeah, I mean, because that's usually like what the
X factor is to a lot of these musicians and stuff.
It's just like they have a personality that people like,
and it's an unque personality. But once that personality has
been created, like any actor can go in and fill
that personality at that point because they've had enough being
able to like watch the person just being themselves, Like
it's not that hard to fill the shoes of somebody

(01:03:27):
once that person, that authentic person exists, like it's it's
not hard to impersonate them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Especially when you're you know, looking at them in a
football stadium from hundreds of yards away.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
And shit, man, we're probably only a couple of years
away from full fucking hologram concerts. You know, the band
won't even have to be in the venue. They can
be at home standing one of those little light boxes,
just rocking out, and then they go down and sit
in their couch and they're done with the concert.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
You know, Like fuck, I'm sure ticket Master will still
find a way to bend this over a barrel for
those tickets.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Oh yeah, ten thousand dollars and you can watch a
VR concert Taylor Swift, sign me up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
All right, all right, guys, we got to take another break.
We'll be right back. And now we're getting back to
the bazaarre kind of jumping back in and closing things out.

(01:04:24):
So some people have said that, you know, Ed's experience
with the logging industry and stonemasonry kind of explain how
he was able to make all these monuments and construct
Coral Castle. But like I've kind of alluded to, and
we've talked about, I think that like really misses the
point of all this. Like even if, and let's just

(01:04:46):
say if Ed didn't have any type of occult knowledge
or supernatural abilities or anything like that. It's still like
fucking incredible that this guy was able to build this thing,
even if he did just do it with pulleys and
simple tools and technology. But that's a crazy fucking feat
of construction and engineering. I mean, like we talked about,

(01:05:10):
it took six men and a crane to repair this
gait that this guy built himself. So I mean, either
he did have some sort of knowledge or skills or something,
or he was a construction genius. I mean, those are
basically the only two options, and at some point it's

(01:05:31):
which one is easier to believe, and to me, I
kind of err on the side of it's easier for
me to believe that he had a little something that
at least helped him do this. I mean, I feel
like you're kind of on the same page with that,
just from our conversation so far. But it just seems
impossible to me that in the twenties, this five foot

(01:05:54):
one hundred and twenty pound guy was able to build
all these structures. So what do you think, Shane.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
This dude clearly made an army of homunkey LII and
he was using him like umpa lumpas or like you know,
like the dwarfs, and the humming that people were hearing
was actually the monkey I just just humming away the
tunes like Monculi work songs. Yeah, Homunculi work song. See,
we don't understand it because we're not homunkeyl I, so
we think it's just this constant frequency vibration. But that's
that's literally a song in Homunculi.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Hey, you know who else supposedly had a monkey lie
that we haven't talked about in a little bit Alistair Crowley,
our boy Jack fucking Parsons. Of course, what a magical fiasco, man,
Coral Castle. Just a magical fiasco.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
But getting into a little bit more real world, what
my explanation would be of this is kind of like
the along the lines of the same thing that you
were saying that regardless of if he was doing anything
crazy or not, this is definitely a fascinating human interest
story and this guy definitely did something fascinating. And regardless
of what your idea or anybody's idea of what occult
knowledge is, my assumption would be that he was privy

(01:07:02):
to some type of very simple technology or idea that
was passed down from his family. That seems like this
crazy mystery to us, but it's probably extremely fucking simple
and it's literally like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
An old Eastern European stone, possibly freemason something. You know,
it might not have to be something as crazy as
like some otherworldly technology. But yeah, like you said, I
think this guy had to have some sort of something
in his back pocket. But what that thing is I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Yeah, exactly, that's kind of my view. I mean I
definitely get into a little bit more of well, I mean,
it's probably a little bit more explained now than it
would have been back in the day. This whole idea
of like astrophysics, frequency vibration, even the whole concept of
the ether was what just really getting started to talk
about it and like in like science aspects like back
around in the early nineteen hundred. So, I mean, I

(01:07:55):
definitely think that there's this unexplained technology aspect to this
and to get too crazy woo woo with it. But
I honestly think that regardless of it, if this was done,
I think that maybe he could have used it. But
the whole idea about using the Earth's magnetic frequencies to
basically manipulate things to move how you need him to.

(01:08:15):
And this has always been my theory with like UFOs
is that if you get into the whole idea that
these things aren't actually coming from space, maybe the reason
they're able to travel zero gravity is because they're basically
just working how magnets work when they're opposites of each other.
So if this guy figured out this idea, I mean, fuck, dude,
the whole UFO technology, like you're making this little ship
quick turn pinpoints boom oom boom, boom boom everywhere, and

(01:08:39):
you know, it's just I think that there's something to it.
I mean, diving into even like the Egyptian aspect of
it and the fact that he had references to all
the Egyptian stuff. There's this whole thing with like scaubs
that gets into even this other weird occult philosophy about
like how these specific types of beetles would fly, and
they would talk about how they would basically use something
that was here already that we didn't have an understanding

(01:09:02):
of to basically be able to float on top of
which kind of gets into the ether concept. So I
think that it's like one of those technologies.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
That's interrupt you. But like isn't there like something with
like a scareb or beetle like physically should not be
able to fly or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
Yeah, they're too heavy to be able to fly. So
that's where the whole like idea comes in, that they're
actually floating on top of something, almost like how a
fish does, which again gets into this whole like ether concept.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
But well that even gets back to like radio waves
and things like that, which we talk about all the time,
you know, I mean even at that thread and stuff
like that, like John Keel type stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
I mean, even just to bring in another theory on this,
I mean, if theoretically there are these vibrations that are
constantly flowing through this whatever you want to call it,
the ether, if you were able to figure out what
frequency or vibration that thing was on, maybe something can
simply just vibrate to sit on top of it. It
almost kind of feels like that same thing with uh,
when you play certain vibrations and frequencies at like sand,

(01:09:59):
that it'll turn into like certain like specific shapes and everything.
Maybe those certain specific shapes are almost like showing these
like manipulatable like energy fields. And if you find a
way to basically like mirror that field. Rather than it
falling through it, it'll sit on top of it because
they're they're basically taking up the same like frequency plane
that one can't pass through each other because they're they're

(01:10:21):
existing on top of each other. Like this whole concept
that I'm trying to explain is like something that's like
beyond my area of expertise to be able to try
to explain. But hopefully I'm kind of somewhat explaining it
somewhat rationally.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Here, but it kind of and aroundabout way gets back
to what Ed said that you know, it's not about
protons and electrons, it's about magnets. Man, Like you have
you seen Breaking Bad? Yeah, of course we should have
added the Jesse pigments like magnets, bitch, we should have
added that to the soundboard. That would have been perfect

(01:10:53):
for this one.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
But I'm gonna throw in one right here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Yeah magnets, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
Just for the sake of it in the post.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
But yeah, now I think you're definitely onto something. I
mean that's kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Even with an energy though, there's a thing with magnets,
because I mean, how do you create energy? You basically
take a magnet you wrap it in other things, and
then it basically will create this like reoccurring current. So
it's like even within like electrical understanding of this shit
and frequency and everything, it all goes back to magnetics.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I mean, yeah, So maybe this guy was just a
genius when it came to magnets who he was Jesse
Pinkman before Jesse Pinkman.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
He just saw it from a different perspective, because that's
what I think a lot of this stuff is is
everybody is pushed into thinking this particular way, and there's
just one person who can just It's kind of like
the same idea that like you're working on a project
and everybody's staring at it and they can't figure it out,
and then the one guy walks up who has no
context of the project and can go, why isn't that
right there? And then everybody's like, holy fuck, it was

(01:11:51):
that simple? Like I think it's something like that that
it's just like we're all looking at this one way,
so we can't see it because we don't have to
right set of eyes. So this other guy walks up,
who thinks a little bit differently than the average person,
and he sees this answer that's just right in front
of him that nobody else can see, just because he
has a different context and set of eyes on this thing. Like,
I feel like it's that simple, you know, like it's

(01:12:11):
just something that's just it's been sitting at the tip
of everybody's tongue. But it's just like we just we
don't think that way, So we haven't gotten to the
rational explanation to bring it to that point, you know,
like you just need like a fresh mind to come
and look at it and actually be willing to give
the information out that they give because everybody that gets
this shit, they keep it so fine under lock and

(01:12:32):
key that nobody gets anything of it. But again with
good reason, because what happened to fucking Tesla for example,
that was diving into this stuff. Second he died, us
government rushes in and takes everything, like because clearly there's
something to this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Yeah, So I mean Ed's ideas on magnetism and things
like that. Yeah, maybe we should look into that a
little bit more. His ideas on women and young girls
and uh not so much you know, fucking their mother
to purify. Maybe we should just leave that in the
nineteen twenties.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
But I wonder if he has a reference to three
six and nine, just out of like curiosity in his
magnetism book. I want, I gotta buy this book and
I gotta look through it if there is any reference
to three six and nine. Dude, there's definitely a cross
between the Tesla stuff and what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Well, if you buy it and uh kind of go
through it and find anything good, we'll have to do
like a follow up to this, maybe in Bizarre Inquiries
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
The good news is when I brought up the book cover,
it said Amazon five ninety nine, so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
There you go. I think it's probably very long. They
said it was a pamphlet, so you can probably have
that knocked out.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
But in all fairness, dude, there is some amazing information
in those pamphlets. Because I don't know if you've dived
into like manly p Hall, but like some of his
best information wasn't in like the secret Teachings like everybody
tries to grab but is just weird off the wall
little pamphlets, dude, Like I got one that talks about
this whole like aura and magnetic frequency is coming off
of people, dude, and it's again it dives into all
this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Magnets bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
That's it's fucking magnets bitch. Like, yeah, the little pamphlets
always have like the best information man, because I don't know, man, just.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Distilled down to just the very information you need. I mean,
no reason to have a four hundred page book when
you could have a ten page pamphlet.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Yeah, clearly, man, Like we're looking at if you start
diving into a lot of this like early nineteen hundreds
of cold stuff and just start adding the context of magnetism,
I wonder how far you might actually get.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Well, maybe that's something we can kind of look into
in a future episode.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
But I'm gonna have to go through a manly p
hall book and just replace certain words with the term
magnet and magnetism and see how much sense it might
actually make.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Magnets bitch, Magnets bitch. Stay tuned, guys. This is our
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Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
But no, that's basically all I got for this one. Yeah,
I think this is kind of a fun one to
talk about it. So I'm a little bit different than
we normally talk about. It's not cryptids or aliens, you know,
even though it does kind of skirt with some kind
of esoteric occult things, it's not, you know, super duper
heavy into that stuff. So I think it was a

(01:15:33):
nice little change of pace, a little more lighthearted one.
But yeah, that's basically all I got for this one.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
So I mean, I will say though that as this
show is progressed and just like any project, man like,
things start to kind of take on a different light
and it's still kind of fits in the name, but
like as far as our research, bizarre, Yeah, it's definitely
a bizarre encounter to experience this thing. Like everything that
we've been diving into lately still fits the name of
like what we're diving into, but it's kind of like
growth of a person man like. The show does the

(01:15:59):
same thing realistically, what we're doing with this podcast is
essentially making a medium so that we can research things
and other people are able to hear it. So of course,
as you have more of an understanding, research is going
to change and progress. So you know, a lot of
this stuff we may not have dived into a year ago,
but where we're going with our research, it all connects
in full circle because once you start diving into this stuff,

(01:16:22):
you realize again, like we've mentioned a million times on
the show, that it's all connected. So honestly, man Like,
I like where the show's going, that we're not just
specifically diving into cryptids, but rather just bizarre things in general.
Like this is why I was saying a long time ago,
man Like, bizarre definitely fits the show because everything we
dive into is definitely bizarre and is intriguing. And again,

(01:16:43):
it all it's weird how we'll research something off the
wall like this, and I guarantee you we'll do something
three episodes from now that's completely unrelated and we'll find
these connecting pieces because that's just the research.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
It always happens, I mean, and especially where you least
expect it to pop up.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
But like bizarre increase for EXAs you can only.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Talk about cryptids and aliens so much, so I think
it's kind of fun to look into kind of this
more obscure stuff like the Solway Firth space man, like
that was such a fun one to do just because
it was something so different than what we normally talk about.
But anyway, I feel like I've rambled on.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
I will say that tonight that with that of anything,
what you were saying, if anybody out there, any listeners
or anything, has anything that's, you know, kind of along
this field that you guys might want to be interested
in us covering, or if you guys have any like
weird local stories or.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Anything like that ltry type stuff, throw.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Our way, man, because we'd absolutely love to dive into them.
Because you know, it's with a lot of these podcasts,
you know, you'll see a lot of the stuff get
talked about on a lot of the same shows, so
you know, it's kind of nice to kind of dive
into a little bit more of the obscure stuff. So
we're always always more than happy to take suggestions for
obscure stuff to dive into, so you know, don't hesitate
to shoot us a message and throw us some other
you know, weird little local folk glory things that you've

(01:17:54):
heard about, because who knows really might end up leading
man you throw something like coral Castle or some other
weird little local tourist trap, and who knows where the
hell we might end up going with it, you know.
And with that, if you guys enjoyed today's conversation and
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Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
So thank you, and if anybody wants to get up
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Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
You guys can email us at Bizarre Encounters at outlook
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Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
And as always, all this shit is mentioned in the
link tree and the show description.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
And just like today's show and all of the weird
stuff that we've been diving into lately, the spectrum of
what the bizarre is has definitely shifted, but we always
always remain and we'll always stay bizarre.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Bizarre pop get sixteen year old girls.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
In my moment of fuck hit all the wrong onesdo
that end? Part?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Was that so much a man? Randy Savage?

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
Yeah, I hit the wrong one. Let me read that
us like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Fucked his boss's like sixteen year old daughter. So it's
very apt. Still, we should just leave the whole thing
and

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Yeah, I'm just gonna leave it in there, and just
for the sake of it, I'm gonna hit the one
that I want to hit the end, because fuck it,
the show should end with this co

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