#131 "The Anomalous Meadow" with Trey Hudson

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Any of.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It, and then looked out and there was this big.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Red, blinking UFO.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I can just say this, something's going on in the woods.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Something's going on.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
They're not dogs, they're not coyotes.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
What could it be?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Right?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I had an encounter with a skunk cake and it
completely altered the course of my life.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
I got a call on building.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
What about.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Saying sightings of a UFO covering.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Over a barn. Really woke up from a dream, and
when I went into the bedroom, she said, there's a
monctre on the wall. They saw that the creature had
run through a bob wire fence that they were able
to obtain cares. They sent the.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Hairs to their lab and it came back as an
online creature.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Creature creature Shay, what is up?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Bizarre Rights and welcome back to the most bizarre showing
the Internet. I am the one that's some referred to
as Shane aka the original Shane Squatch, and alongside me
I have the one, the only, the big bat Boo
Daddy himself, sir or in Felix.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Live and in person. And Shane, I've been meaning to
ask you about this, but I keep forgetting. I saw
that you changed your personal Instagram handle to Shane Squatch Jones,
which I just think is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Did I change my cash app? I change everything of
all my personal stuff to that. I am now officially
Shane Squatch Jones.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Everywhere, watch Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I'm Instagram, Facebook, everywhere. If anybody wants to look me
up on the Internet, I'm now officially Shane Squatch Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Just Shane Squatch already taken, so you had to add
Shane Scotch Jones in there.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I just thought it would be a little bit more fun.
I mean, it kind of separates it a little bit. Yeah,
it's more professional that way. It kind of looks like
it's a nickname in the middle at that point, I mean,
you got to change your personal Instagram name to or
in the Big Bad Boo Daddy Felix.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, I haven't done anything with my personal Instagram in
like five years, so I don't think I'm gonna do that,
but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well the thoughts there, at least you gotta at least
do a post or something or you know where you
can put your name on the framework page. It's just
the Big Bad Boo Daddy.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
I might do that.

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We'll have to see.

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for you guys, we have the man who literally wrote
the book on the Metal Project. Please welcome to the show,
Trey Hudson. How's it going today.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Hey, it's doing great. Hey, thanks for having me. I'm
just tickled pink to be here, and you know, hopefully
we'll get to share this amazing story with you all
your listeners.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I think Uri, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
Like we said a little bit before we started recording,
Shane's told me a lot about you. I know a
little bit about the work you do, but I'm super
excited to get to chat with you and pick your
brain a little bit.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
So for our listeners that.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Might not be aware of your work, would you mind
sharing a little bit about the work you do with
the Metal Project?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah? Yeah, I had an organization called the Anomalous Studies
and Observation Group, And for the sake of brevity for
the rest of the broadcast, we'll just call it ASOG
because that sounds cool, doesn't it. But yeah, we'll just
call it ASOG. And ASOG has been investigating a specific
point of high strangeness located in the America's south Land.

(07:18):
And it is so strange and so weird that it's
called the Skinwalker Ranch of the South. And that's a
bold that's a bold claim. I get it. But if
anybody has ever been researched, has been researching Skinwalker Range.
The man who literally wrote the book on skinwascher Walker
Range as a guy by the name of Ryan Skinner,

(07:38):
and Ryan Skinner says, displace, you know, parallels in some cases,
eclipses the famous Skinwalker Range. So it's one of those
places that has the whole gambit of high strangeness, everything
from UFOs, cryptids, portals, orbs, you know, the whole thing.
And we've been researching this since twenty sixteen, so it's

(08:00):
been a it's been nine years, and some of the
stuff that's just been coming out here in twenty twenty
five is groundbreaking. We've been working with some pretty well
known folks and you know, we're just happy to be
out there researching and the sharing it with everybody through
all these various means, be it books, movies, podcast, radio shows, whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
So I guess for our audience, the whole reason why
we originally had you on was we were talking about
actually I think it was the Azo one story. We
were talking about the Wyoming Hunter that got abducted and
there's a few references to these to this like translucent
cube type thing that this guy got trapped in and
I know it's not necessarily exactly related because he kind
of describes it more as like a box or something,

(08:42):
but it kind of inspired us to kind of dive
into some of your work because we think that there
might be some possible correlations between the two with these
cubes for whatever reason. So I guess a good spot
to start for anybody that may not be familiar with
some of the anomalous events that happened in the Metal
Project once you let him know about some of the
stuff that you guys encounter when you're dealing with that area.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, it's interesting. You should actually mention the Carl Higden case, which.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Is, uh, I'm glad you're familiar.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, actually it's a big part of one of the
chapters in my second book because I likewise found correlations
in these mysterious cubes or boxes and as they you know,
coincide with incidents of high strangeness. So yeah, that's as
very astute of y'all. That's the Carl Higden case is
you know, one of the things that you know when

(09:28):
I you know it happened, I'm like, oh my goodness,
this is correlations in between the Higgden case. I've discussed
it a lot with the well known researcher Katie Page.
She's actually been up to the Higden Sight, and one
of these days, you know, she and I are going
to go back up there and take a look at it.
So and I'm sorry, I completely got my my train

(09:49):
of thought derailed. Or what we want was the question?
I apologize.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh, we're going to hop into some of the events
that happened as you had your research area that kind
of correlate, possibly with one case.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Absolutely, I'm gonna start off basically at the beginning. And
every good story has a beginning, and hopefully every really
good story doesn't have an end, so likewise, we'll start
at the beginning. In July of twenty sixteen, we started
looking at this place that we call the meadow, and
I want people to picture a bucolic mountain meadow, just beautiful,

(10:23):
about eight acres. You know, it's really just a beautiful setting,
you know in the mountains, kes beautiful hardwoods, a small
river running adjacent to it. So it's just a beautiful setting,
you know, just you know, to run across, you know,
as you're hiking or doing anything. But it turns out
that this meadow that we kind of stumbled across I

(10:45):
had some unique properties. We really started looking in July
of twenty sixteen, like I said, and the reason we
liked it is because it was a big, wide open area.
We could see the sky, we could put teams out
with night vision in thermals, and there was a ridge
that we could have a listening pose observation post on
top looking down in that particular night. What we decided

(11:06):
we were going to do is set up teams in
the meadow and with their their nods and their thermals,
and have a single member move across the top of
the ridge see if he could flush anything down or
if he could see anything from his vantage point. That's
individual as Bob, and Bob is a weird shit magnet.
I don't know if I can say that on yeah,

(11:27):
but yeah he is. I mean it's just, you know,
weird crap just sticks to him like ugly on an ape.
So it just so happens that Bob was the one
we were going to have walking the top of the ridge.
So as we get in our position, Bob says, okay,
I'm gonna start, you know, moving towards the ridge, and
he goes, oh, wait, I'm left a piece of gear

(11:48):
back at base camp. Because we're all on radio, Colm,
we kind of run our our investigations kind of like
a military organ uh you know, operation, Not that we're militarized,
but it's just it's a good template, it's a good model.
And so he radios back. He said, I'm going to
go back to base camp. Yeh, I'll let you know
when i'm back at the when I start back. And
so a period of time goes by and then he

(12:08):
comes on the radio and he says, Hey, everybody, I'm
at the tree across the trail. I don't know how
I got here. And so, you know, we all have
something called a normalcy box. And what a normality box
is the world that we think is normal. And whenever
we are as human beings, when we encounter something unusual

(12:30):
or strange, we quickly jump in that box of normalcy
and we close the lids on it and say everything's okay,
everything's normal. So that's what we did with this case,
is like, oh, well, Okham's razor. Maybe he's having a
medical episode. So our medic got on the radio and said, hey,
you know, are you dizzy? You know, can you can
you do both hands, feel like you have strength in

(12:52):
both hands, you know, can you repeat? Mary had a
little lean because we were thinking maybe a stroke or
a concussion or something, and he passed that with flying colors.
So once again, you know, we want to really jump
in that normalcy box. And it's like, well, you know,
maybe he was just you know, walking along, focusing on
the mission, and you know, just wasn't paying attention. We'd
never you know, we didn't want to consider missing time

(13:14):
because that would be too weird. So Bob moves across
the top of the ridge and nothing happens. He drops
down into the western side of the ridge and starts
moving towards one of my teams. Now they can see
his white headlamp with their naked eye, and they can
also seeat signature on their thermals, so they definitely know
it's Bob. So they brought their thermals down and they're

(13:36):
watching this headlamp as it slowly moves across the edge
of the meadow, and all of a sudden, where he was,
there's this red sphere of light, this orb this this
blob of plasma appears and it jets across the meadow
about one hundred yards and we calculated the speed was
about twenty six miles per hour. Stopped and they quickly

(14:00):
brought their thermals up and he's standing there and they
get on the radio and they go, Bob, are you okay?
Did you just run? And he laughed. He said no,
I'm too old to run. I don't run anywhere anymore.
He goes why, and he said, do you feel okay?
They say, yeah, I'm fine. Why are you asking? Well,

(14:21):
come over here and talk to us. So he makes
his way over there, and the whole time they're watching
him through their thermals, and whenever they radio him, they
actually see the heats signature on the thermal. You bring
a walk and talking up to its hands up to
its mouth, ki it and respond. So they are seeing
the heat signature of Bob. He gets over there and
they explained to him, you know why it happened.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
We apologize guys for the interference, but we will be
right back and and I'll back to the show.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
These two gentlemen, one of them has dual degrees from
Georgia Tech and Physics and philosophy. As a former US
Army airborne ranger, worked with General motors on some of
their artificial intelligence and self driving products. The other individual
has a degree in marketing from Georgia Tech, a master's
degree in public administration, and has worked in the public
safety sector for many, many years. Both solid guys, okay,

(15:23):
not people prone to flights of fancy. And so they
explained to Bob what they just saw and he's like,
I don't know what you're talking about. I just walked
over here. They said, no, you didn't. You turned into
a ball of energy and jetted across the meadow. And
he's like, you guys are full of crap. I don't
know what you're talking about. I just walked over here. So,

(15:46):
you know, that was a point of argument for years
until we agreed to disagree and accept the fact that
maybe you have quantum effects happening on a macro scale
at this location EU. You have two realities existing at
the same time in the same place, experienced differently by
different people. So that's that's totally unique. And what's really

(16:10):
bizarre about that is years later we put Bob under
hypnotic regression. We have a psychotherapist on our staff, and
he regressed Bob and the block on that top missing
time is so strong that we could never get through it.
We can never penetrate that block, even under hypnosis. He said,
he has no memory of that period of time between

(16:31):
leaving the base camp and uh, you know, reaching the
down tree. So, uh, you know, that's something that you know,
we were never able to explain.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
While we were at camp, our base camp operator radioed
back and he says, hey, guys, I've got your uh
you know, I see your headlamps. Why are you returning
to base camp by coming over the top of the ridge.
That's that's a pretty rugged train. And he radioed back
and said, uh or we rated back, said no, we're
still in the meadow. Why do you ask? He goes,
because I see green headlamps on the top of the

(17:05):
ridge and he goes, wait, those aren't headlamps, and they're
about twenty feet in the air. So we'd had green
orbs dancing along the top of the ridge line just
outside of base camp that night at two hundred hours,
one of our members had gotten out to take care
of some biological business, which always seems to happen when

(17:26):
you're warming your sleeping bag and all, you know, all
tucked in. So he stepped out of his tent to
take care of that, and he saw a white hominid
figure peeking around a tree. Now, anybody you know that's
familiar with bigfoot lords is the tree peepers. You know
that looked at you from around a tree and went back.

(17:46):
And he quickly went to get one of our our
thermal operators, and as soon as she could get out
there with her equipment, the thing had disappeared. What's interesting
is this, this white hominid matches folklore for this area
that goes back years and years and years and years
and years. So now we have cryptid sidings that match,

(18:07):
you know, folklore history of this area. Quite a few
of our members are trained trackers. We went back to
the site where he saw this. We looked for any
compression of vegetation, any disturbed you know, ground litter, you know,
anything like that that could possibly be tracked back to
a source. And we were never able to determine that
anything was there. But he did see this homined figure

(18:31):
the next morning. Uh is Bob, remember weird stuff Bob,
A weird ship Bob. He came to us with his GPS.
Now get a little bit about Bob. He has a
very rich history and expertise in backcountry search and rescue,
did it in California, back in the mountains for many,
many many years. That being the case, he always carries

(18:52):
a GPS with the breadcrumb and track function turned on
so he can always tell you where he's been. He
showed us as GPS track line from the evening before
we had the missing time and he turned into the
ball of energy. The track line on his GPS showed
him being on the other side of the river and
moving in long distances via straight lines. The terrain is

(19:15):
not of such that you can travel on a straight
line on the ground, but how can you travel over
rugged terrain in a straight line in the air? In
the air, So we were excited about that. That's a
good solid piece of empirical evidence that's recorded on his GPS,

(19:36):
and literally while we were standing there, the data erased itself. Wow.
So you know, once again, it's one of those things
where people always hear about, you know, electronics failing or
being wiped of data, you know, while they're at these
areas of high strainedness or are encountering high strangeness. So

(19:57):
that's July twenty sixteen, O in the paranormal world or
the high strangeness world that's called a grand slam. That's
about as good as it gets. But believe it or not,
it gets better. So we go back in February of
twenty seventeen, really intrigued by this place that we're now
calling the Meadow. We had put some protocols in place.

(20:18):
We tightened up our operational structure a little bit, so
we're a little bit more dialed in when we go out,
because we've discovered that this place will throw you these
curve balls and you better be prepared to deal with
them because somebody could get hurt or something could happen.
So we tightened up our operations a little bit, tightened
up our operational template, so we were ready to go

(20:39):
back out and experience something really unique. Well, we did
the same type of our operation as before. We had
teams out in the meadow with thermals and night vision
surrounding the periphery of the meadow, and this time we
had a team of three people moving across the top
of the ridge because quite frankly, we came to the
conclusion that having one person out there by them so

(21:00):
else probably is dumb. You know, it wasn't the smartest thing.
We had three people, but we move across the top
of the ridge, get over to the west end of
the ridge, looking down into the meadow, and Darryl, my
senior researcher, is looking through his thermal and he goes,
that's weird. I've never noticed that before. And I said what,

(21:21):
And he goes, there's a box down in the meadow.
It looks like one of those boxes that's a telecommunications box,
you know, like the fiber optics and all that you
see on the side of the road, a telecombox. He goes,
it looks like a telecom box down in the meadow.
And he goes, I have never noticed that before. How
did I miss that all these times we've been out here,

(21:42):
And so he hands this thermal back up to me
and I look because we're on a very steep hill
and I'm kind of above him, so I'm looking over
his shoulder and I'm like, Daryl, those are deer. I
can see their heads in their four legs. And I
hand the thermal back to him and he's like, wait,
that's not what I saw. There was a box down there. Well,
once again, you know, our normalcy box. It's like, well, okay,

(22:06):
you must have misidentified something or saw a deer, you know,
end on or you know, he didn't see a box
in the meadow, because that would make no sense. Yeah,
it makes no sense. So we dropped down to the
western the meadow and about that time we started getting
radio communications from one of our thermal teams all the
way on the eastern end of the meadow near the entrance,

(22:27):
and they said, hey, we're getting these boxes popping up
on thermal, these cubes, and they're only visible on thermal.
They're not visible with the naked eye. And we're like, okay,
that's kind of strange. What do you think they are.
We have no idea, but they're these rectangular boxes or
cube things and they pop up at a side on

(22:49):
thermal and they kind of dissipate and they pop up
somewhere else and it's like, well, stay put, we're coming
over to you. And so people, you know, they were
continuing to observe this. We made our way over there
to them, and by the time we got there, they
had had one on thermal that dissipated was gone. It's like, well,
you know, did anybody you know, was anybody able to

(23:10):
record that, and they were having some problems with their
thermal and they were not able to capture that on video.
They said, okay, but we know where they were, and
we said, okay, let's vector a team to where the
boxes were and make sure we're recording this, you know,
on your thermal. So we had our thermal operator she
started recording, uh, lady by the name of our Kristen.

(23:35):
And as our teams approached the box, they got to
the edge of it, where the edge of it was
now it was like very faint, you almost couldn't see
it at all on thermal, And as soon as they
got to the edge of this thing, their heat signatures
completely disappear, gone like they never existed. And as a
matter of fact, it shocked one of the thermal operators.

(23:55):
He go, did they just disappear? And uh, And I'm
gonna Paul's right there, because we've gone back to that
during that same time of year, and we've tried to
recreate it and we are not able to recreate it.
And if anybody watches the film The Metal Project, they'll
see that actual video and they'll see our attempt to
recreate it, which there was nothing big enough there to

(24:16):
obscure our thermal signatures. And it was also featured in
Discovery on a Discovery Channel show where they actually did
an analysis of that video and the only thing they
could come up was inconclusive. And you know, I agree
with that, it's inconclusive. We don't see portals every day.
So the team came out of it and their heat

(24:37):
signature started reappearing. Our thermal operator is watching, you know,
through her scope, and she turns to the right and
she says, who or what are those? And she sees
two heat signatures watching us, about three feet high, watching
us from a small group of trees. Now, something neglected

(25:00):
to tell you is right after Daryl saw the box
in the meadow, we recorded a man sized heat signature
about six foot tall, you know, eighten inches wide tall.
It gets tall, short, tall, short, tall, short, tall, and
then splits into two and disappears. So, you know, perhaps

(25:24):
we're seeing the same two entities that we had seen
before that appeared where the first box was at the
western end of the meadow. And so she actually turns
and she says, who or what are those? And we
checked on our radios and one of our protocols is
Once the team is on location, you don't get off
location without permission from the tactical commander there in the fields,

(25:46):
so we don't have people running around helter skelter, so
everybody knows where everybody else is. It was not one
of our teams. The crazy thing is four people went
into the cube or the area where the cube was.
Only fifty percent of them are still alive. Half of
them are dead.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
So you know, that's just that's something to throw out there.
People are thinking getting into this business without being serious
about it. You know, it can be it can be deadly.
So that's that's basically you know what happened in February
twenty seventeen. Now, we did have a business woman appear

(26:28):
at camp in the middle of the forest at ten
thirty at night in the wintertime and an area is
so remote there's not even a cellular signal. This business
woman appears wearing loafers, trousers, a blouse in a blazer,
and she wanted us to stop what we were doing
as we came back out of the meadow and go

(26:51):
with her to chase down these mysterious things that she
called monkey bears. Now, I mean, I know what a
gummy bear is, but I don't know what a monkey
bear is. She described just some kind of like weird
bigfoot thing. And uh, in my first book, I call
her the Mysterious Businesswoman of the Forest. Now since then,
I've communicated with her, you know, and I still, you know,

(27:13):
I'm scratching my head.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
It turned out that we had a common acquaintance, and
you know, I was able to eventually link up with her.
And so in my second book, I've got a whole
chapter on updates to the monkey Bary Ladies, as she's
known to have a high strangers community. Now, so, you know,
it was so weird. She uh you know, was trying to, didn't,
you know, kind of get us to go away with her.

(27:35):
She squatted down and urinated in front of us, you know,
just all this bizarre, weird, just crazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
So that was in twenty seventeen. Uh we've you know,
since then, we've had uh we've gone to other sites
in this region. Uh that's you know, equally a strange
where we've seen uf you know, we've got a really
nice set of UFOs on video. I've got Mark D'Antonio

(28:06):
from move On looking into that video seeing if he
can figure out what it is, because I've certainly racked
my brain trying to come up with it. We've had
strange beams of light, you know that we see. But
one of the really cool things we had is we
did an ST session in November of twenty nineteen in

(28:30):
the meadow. And this is also in the film, and
the transcript is in my first book. If you read
the transcript or watch the video, is it appears that
we are actually in communications with a non human intelligence
using the Esties method. Now and every time I show
this video, I tell people, you know, this is the

(28:52):
ST's method, that this is what it does. I'm going
to let you be the judge whether you think we
were in contact with something. In all, almost to a person,
you know, at these conferences, everybody raises their hand and says, yes,
we think you were. You were in communication with something.
Where it gets really weird is during the UH during
the conversation, I started asking about specific phenomenologies you plasma radiation, UH,

(29:19):
you know, all these different phenomenologies, gravitational fields, micro singularities,
and the entity gets really upset, really agitated when I
start asking about these phenomenologies.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
All right, guys, we got to take another break. We'll
be right back, and now we're getting back to the bizarre.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Uh. So that's uh, you know, that's one of the
things we did which was was quite frankly, very very
compelling and very amazing, was the st session. Uh In
January twenty twenty, we had gone back out and we
had a very small crew at that time, you know,
not many people, and we had tried a CE five

(30:11):
protocol out in the meadow, and anybody that's familiar with
a CE five protocol is where basically you sit in
a group and you project intent out to the universe saying,
you know, hey, UAPs and hi's if you're out there,
let us know, you know, come say hi. And so
we went out there and we're projecting intent. And let
me let me preface that by saying a lot of

(30:33):
our team members are trained formally trained remote viewers, you know,
using the Coordinate Remote Viewing System as developed by the
US Army's Intelligence and Security Command and the Stanford Research Institute.
So you know, we know a little bit something about
projecting intent. And nothing happened. It was a complete goose egg,
you know. Wanh wah, wah, nothing so Unknowingly, we were

(30:57):
getting ready to have one of those weird curve balls
that the meadows sometimes throws you. We've got back to camp,
you know, kind of bummed out that nothing happened. Go
to sleep, Wake up Sunday morning, start packing up our gear,
getting ready to go, and one of my team members
by the name of Tony comes over to me and
he goes, hey, Trey, I need to tell you about something. Now.

(31:19):
Let me tell you about Tony. Graduate of the US
Air Force Academy, spent several years in US Air Force
Special Operations, is now a much sought after expert in
his field of study. He travels all over the world.
I'm not going to go into what he does or
who he is for security reasons, but he's a highly

(31:40):
respectable guy, you know, has a degree in engineering. Really
really solid dude. And he goes, I woke up, he said,
about four point thirty in the morning, wide away, and
he said, I had this word just stuck in my brain.
That doesn't make any sense. He said. The word was
knocks MAGB and phonetically spelled it would be n o

(32:04):
X November oscar x ray MAGB, Mike Alpha golf Bravo,
Echo Echo, Knox, Magbi does that word mean anything to you?
And I said, well, no, not really, and he says, well,
then at six point thirty I woke up again with
that word still there. He goes, it's got to mean something.

(32:24):
I said, TONI, you know, it doesn't mean anything to me,
but I'll you know, I'll look into it, you know,
I'll research it. So went back home started researching it.
Knox was pretty easy. Knox, it turns out, is the
Roman goddess of the night. Okay, you know, in Roman
mythology was pretty much stolen or co opted by the
Romans from the Greeks, and the Greeks she's known as

(32:45):
Nish And I'm actually going to grab something here, So
nicks uh in Knox or is the goddess of the night?
Magbe turned out to be a little bit more difficult,
and we're going to do a little history lesson and
is You're probably familiar that the Romans occupied Britain for
some time. You got Hadrian's Wall up in the north,

(33:06):
and you know you have Roman uh you know, cities
all over Britain, you know, Bath and others. And uh
So I went back and found that word in Old English, Okay,
in the point Beowulf and Old English was spoken right

(33:27):
about the end of the Roman occupation about I think
four hundred uh uh. You know a d was about
the time that the Romans finally left Britain. So it's
reasonable that the word knox and this Old English word
are contemporareous that the people that spoke to Old English
would have some knowledge of the Roman system of mythology.
In God and Goddesses, so the word is magma and

(33:51):
it was found in the point Beowulf, and Magma Magma
means children or kindred, so you put those together, not magba,
and it's children of the night goddess. Okay. So looking
in you know, in high strangeness Lore, what do we

(34:14):
have that are small like children that have big heads,
like children that come and visit people in their bedrooms
at night. I'll give you a hint. Whitley Streeber has
a picture of one of them on his book The Grays.
So that was one of those things where the meadow

(34:36):
completely threw us a curveball. We asked for contact slash confirmation,
we got it, albeit not in a way that we
were expecting. So you really have to go into this
place with an open mind and really be it, be
dialed in on what's going on, because it might interact

(34:59):
with you in a way that you you're not expecting.
July twenty twenty was a hard month for us. On
the eighteenth of July of that year, one of the
key members of our team, one of the four that
went into the cube, died, and we had had a

(35:24):
trip planned and obviously he wasn't going to be able
to make it. We decided to soldier own and go
anyway in memory of him. It was during COVID, so
we would not be able to attend a funeral and
this would be our way of honoring and remembering him.
So we had a very you know, it's kind of

(35:44):
a like I said, a very tough time. And we
went out there, and there were four of us that
went out to the meadow just to kind of take
a look at it, because it really wasn't a research trip.
It was really more of a time to mourn, time
to laugh, time to cry. But we decided, you know,
it was too good of an opportunity not to at
least go out there, and we found a right there

(36:08):
at the stream we found what looked like an oval
actually tied in the top of a small sapling on
a little tiny island out in the middle of the stream.
It was about twelve foot tall and it looked like
the oval of an ank, you know, the Egyptian symbol

(36:31):
you know, for life, an ac. It's also interesting that
that oval or keyhole figure is sometimes called the galactic keyhole,
and you'll find that in places as a motif where
people have historically or mythologically associated with a gateway, doorway
or portal to something else. Now, whatever that something else is,

(36:54):
you know, that's a cultural thing. But it's interesting that
we found that oval right there in the middle of
that stream, only about fifty or sixty yards from where
the box or portal first appeared. But I left out
part of the story. January twenty twenty six months earlier,

(37:16):
we had gone out to the meadow, very small group.
Kristin and I decided to go out and do a
baseline survey of all the areas of high strangeness, recording
electromagnetic fields, radiation in any other anomalies that we could find.
Part of that is we decided we were going to
cross the stream, the small river to the other side

(37:38):
and kind of get an idea of what was on
the other side of this since we had the time
to do it. So it was January, so we took
our boots off, rolled our travelers up, went across the stream.
I exited on the other side of the stream and
came into another big open field. And I was really
excited because like, here's another big open field just on

(37:59):
the other side to this small river that we can
do concurrent investigations, you know, so we can have like
two groups actually doing concurrent investigations on either side of
this river. And I called over to Kristen because she
was working her way across in another part. We kind
of goten separated through some reeds and stuff. I said, hey,

(38:19):
you need to come over here and check this out.
This is really really cool. I said, it's another big
open field and she said, what are you talking about.
I said, no, it's a big open field. You know,
we can do concurrent investigations. I'm really excited about this.
And I mean I'm looking around and it's like, hey,
this is new. I've never seen this before. And she goes,
stay put, I'm coming over there too, you And I'm like, cool,

(38:40):
I can't wait to show it to you. So she
gets over there. She comes up out of the water
and she goes, what are you talking about? I said,
isn't this great? She goes, Trey, You're right where you started.
You never made it to the other side. And this
is where it gets really weird. Yeah, this is where

(39:01):
it gets. Here is it's almost when she said that,
it's almost like the environment changed and I became so disoriented.
They actually wanted to send a medical team out to
get me and escort me back to camp. And I said, okay, guys,
I said, I'm pulling rank here. Leave me the f

(39:23):
alone for ten minutes. Okay, I'm really disoriented. I'm fine physically,
I'm fine, but I'm really disoriented. Give me ten minutes.
And during that ten minutes, we noticed while we were
running our Geiger counters, at that exact moment of the disorientation,
we had a radiation spike.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
And these radiation spikes, if you go and actually do
the research at other places of high strangeness, is these little,
tiny radiation spikes seemed to be indicative of incidences of
high strangeness, not just the meadow, but it's can walk
a ranche in other places. So, and then fast forwarding
back to July of twenty twenty where I stepped foot

(40:07):
out of the river's where the oval was h a
gateway or doorway. Wow. So and that's uh, I can
keep going. You'll have any questions I've got. I've got
tons of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I mean, I'd like to jump in for a moment
if you don't have anything, Shane, Oh.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
No, I was gonna say, I saw you taking notes
over there. I had a few ideas, but I saw
you taking notes. I'll let you hop in man.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
All right, So, Trey, your story is absolutely fascinating to me.
I'm going to try to make this as quick as possible.
Shane's heard me tell the story many times. I grew
up in eastern North Carolina, across the creek from a
very large military base, and you know, growing up there
was always these weird feelings of heaviness, and I never

(40:58):
experienced anything even remote on the level of you know
what you're talking about, the activity here at the meadow,
but just very strange things in retrospect happened in this
area growing up, and just so many similarities to your story.
I couldn kind of relate to about the same timeframe.

(41:19):
Twenty twenty one twenty twenty two, both of my parents
suddenly died. A lot of strange activity happened after their deaths.
My sister was staying on the property for a while
and she was laying in bed one night and called
me absolutely freaking out. She said, she was just laying

(41:40):
in bed and it was like a fought beamed into
her head that said, go look on top of the refrigerator.
And so she got up and went out to the
kitchen and looked on the refrigerator, and on top of
the refrigerator she had three like decorative like chickens, you know,
like people keeping their kitchen right, And the bodies had

(42:03):
been ripped off of these three chickens, and just the
legs were on top of the refrigerator. And so, you know,
I was trying to talk her off the ledge, and
so you know, that's just trickster activity. You're going to
find the bodies of the chickens in the mailbox in
a week or whatever. So anyway, as I got digging
into it, I discovered the story. And I believe this

(42:26):
is like a Eastern European legend of the Bobby Yaga.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Bobby Yaga in her chicken legged house.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yes, exactly, in a clearing in the middle of the woods,
which was kind of the situation where we lived in
a clearing in the middle of the woods. And I'm
not going to get into details with this just for brevity,
but we also had what I would consider a men
in black encounter when I was a child. So just
so many things in your story resonates really deeply with

(42:53):
things that I've experienced. And I don't know if I
really had a question there as much as just to say, man,
your story is really really fascinating to me. And you know,
I knew a little bit about your research and you know,
the the Skinwalker ranch of the Southland, but I was
not anticipating at having this many correlations to my personal experiences.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
And you know that in that there seems to be
a template for this stuff and something that and I'm
just going to kind of go off script here is
something that happened to me and I talk about this
in my second book, is uh, there seems to be
a dog man sort of correlation between extreme high straintness

(43:39):
and the people that experience it. Large canines have been
reported at Marley Woods Skinwalker Ranch, and then I had
my own experience, like just forty yards from where I'm
sitting right now, is uh. I had in my backyard
canine tracks that measured six inches in diameter. Wow, that

(44:05):
appeared to be bipedal, and a track line that started
went a distance and then disappeared. You go back and
you read the follow on to Keller in Knapp's book
Hunt for the skin Walker, which is Skinwalkers of the Pentagon,
and they talk about one of the original NIDS researchers

(44:26):
working for Bigelow National Institute for Discovery Science out of
Skinwalker Ranch. When he got back home to suburban Virginia,
his family started experiencing large, upright canines behind their house.
So there's these all these weird, you know, kind of
occurrences that seemed to be a template for people that

(44:47):
encounter high strangeness. Now, I don't know if you had
any canine.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Strangeness I recall, but you know, a lot of this
stuff happened when I was very young, and it's just
in retrospect as I got more involved in the paranormal
and high strangeness looking back on these things and kind
of putting pieces together. So, like I said, I never
experienced or saw anything you know, as crazy as a

(45:13):
dog man or anything like that. It was just more
kind of feelings and a heaviness and just a general
vibe of.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
Strangeness around the area.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
For lack of a better term. Hold that thought. We'll
be right back after this brief commercial break, and we
are back to the show. Let's hop right in. I
want to throw this into We had a previous guest

(45:42):
at one point, al Santa Riga if you remember him,
or he has a spot in New York that seems
to be this weird spot of high strangers too, maybe
not necessarily seeing cubes and everything, but just like a
mix of seeing sasquatch, seeing reptilian like beings, seeing dog
man in particular. And he actually had an experience where
he doesn't necessarily live super close to this place, but

(46:03):
he had an experience where he started having some like
dog man activity in his backyard. And it started out
with me having some activity where it got up to
the point where he was coming back up on his
porch and ended up going outside and basically like yelling
that like this is my place, you don't come here. Uh,
started screaming out about it, and he said they hadn't
popped back since, but he said it was getting to
the point where it was like they're getting closer and closer,
and they're up to the point where they were like

(46:24):
at his back porch and he was hearing stuff moving
around outside. But yeah, he's got a similar location that
had dog men follow him home too.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, that's uh, you know, it's it seems very common,
these these canines, these these uh, large canine creatures, and
I don't know what the correlation is. You know, you
can go back and look at archetypes. You know, you
can use you know, there's something called semionics, which are
the way symbols transcend cultures. There's something about the canines,

(46:52):
you know, go back to a Nubis and all of
that stuff. Something about the canines that has a link
to this high strangeness. And then you can also go
into the trickster element, which you know, I've had trickster
stuff happen literally just a few feet from where I'm
sitting right now. So there's a definite correlation between that

(47:13):
something that we've had that's very common. And this sounds
this sounds, you know, really crazy, but it's so common
that it's like when people come out to be guest
researchers in the meadow, it's like, oh, yeah, you're going
to see shadow people and orbs and this and about it.
It happened all the time, don't worry about it. So
we're kind of like, yeah, that's an orb. Oh there's

(47:34):
a shadow person. And it's so prevalent that I actually
had a film team out several years ago and we
were doing an ST session with the director and the
cinematographer and the production assistant had this like really strange
look on their face. As we're doing the STY session.

(47:56):
We wrapped it up, everybody packed up, went back home.
The director sent me a message about a week later
and he said the cinematographer and the production assistant refused
to go back out there. They're never going to go
back out there. And it's like, why, Greg, what happened?
He said, while we were doing the ST session, they

(48:16):
saw these shadow figures swirling around me and trying to
enter into me. Now, his ST session was very visual.
He had a lot of visual stuff. And the cool
thing is is we actually captured one of the shadow
people on film Wow, moving behind us. So you know,
that's like just really common as the shadow people. Now

(48:38):
what are the shadow people? You know, I don't know.
You know, there's a lot of theories about you know,
that particular place. The veil is really thin, and I
know that's very cliche. Oh the veil is very thin,
But you know, I think it's one of these places
where reality, our reality and other realities can exist simultaneously

(49:01):
in certain geographical locations. And it's kind of like you
have in a quantum state that light can be a
particle in a wave at the same time. Schrodinger's cat
is alive and dead at the same time, right, So
they're the quantum effects, but now looking at what may
be quantum effects on a macro scale. Some of the

(49:22):
people that went into the cube said that the environment
was different, that it was cold, it was very dark.
They went in unencumbered, there were no brambles or branches
of briers or anything. Yet when they came out of it,
they encountered this stuff. So so there were two realities
existing at the same time.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
So, I mean, if you're looking at it that way,
to go back to the dog thing that you were mentioning,
you know, there's a lot of symbolism with dogs being
like defenders of gates in particular, like they're the ones
that will keep things out. So I mean, if the
dog man thing correlates with this, you know, maybe some
of their purpose might be that they're supposed to be
the defenders and the re and why they have these
instances where they follow people home but they never seem

(50:03):
to get to this point or they're actually attacking, or
they never actually get their hands on them if they
actually do start seeming like they're aggressive, because maybe the
intention is to like scare people away from these portal
areas and kind of correlating into also the shadow people
that you reference. One of the theories that we always
suggest as far as shadow people goes, is that we
might be dealing with multiple things that are all kind

(50:24):
of looking like the same thing. We kind of theorize that,
you know, they might be something that exists in a
spectrum that's outside of what we can see in our
visible light. So rather than them just being not there,
our eyes will just basically fill in that gap with
complete black darkness, and it might be colors that don't
exist in our reality. You know, it might be something
that's beyond our capacity to be able to actually understand.

(50:45):
But all these different shadow people we experienced, they might
be a variety of different things, all coming from possibly
the same place or from a higher dimension that we
can't quite make out. So our eyes basically just flatten
them out and just view them as just one flat color.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Right right, Well, are you ready for things to get
even stranger?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, okay. We have recently, like within the past two years,
acquired a piece of equipment called a god helmet. The
formal name of it is called a Koran helmet. It
was utilized by Michael Persinger, doctor Michael Persinger, On Singer
and Stanley Koran at Loriellen University in Canada, and the

(51:24):
idea was to stimulate certain parts of the brain with
electromagnetic fields to generate mystic experiences. And Orange's kind of
you doing the North and South like he's heard of it,
or at least have knowledge of it. We have one.
A saga has a god helmet. And the cool thing
about ours is completely feel deployable. I can basically pack

(51:48):
everything up, put it in a backpack and go anywhere
on Earth and set this thing up and put somebody under.
So we started doing experiments with it. When we were
filming The Meadow in about a year ago, November of
last year, we filmed one of our team members going
through a god Helm session. Now, unfortunately this did not

(52:10):
make it into the main excuse me take it into
the main film. It is in a add on documentary
called The Helm and Lens, which is a bonus thing
if you purchased the film. But so there's a little
documentary about the god Helmet session that's adjacent to the
main film. But so they filmed one of our team

(52:31):
members going through it and during his session, he had
very vivid visions of beings all around him. You know,
he said, it felt like there were people around me.
And then I had you know, visions of people, you know, beings,
entities standing around me. And then I had visions of
a long hallway with a cube at the end of

(52:52):
it and all these vivid, vivid imagery. Well, we took
that one step further. What we did is we took
the video with no sound and we send to Stephen Leah,
who is the owner of Hidden World's Quantum Imagery and

(53:13):
you may have seen him on Skinwalker Rane and blind
Frog Ranch. He does a quantum image analysis for that.
So he agreed to work with this on this project.
And so he took the several still shots of the video,
not knowing you know, what Sean experienced or anything, just
a picture of him sitting there with the god helmet

(53:33):
apparatus on the blindfold and the earplugs. And he started
pulling quantum data out of these images. And as he's
going through his just proprietary process, you know, we're emailing
back and forth and the film directors, you know, part
of this conversation, he's like, so you send me this

(53:54):
video of this guy sitting there having his brain monitor.
He goes, but something's going on with the left hand
side of his head. It's like there's something going into
the left side of his head. And it's like, Stephen,
we were actually electromagnetically stimulating his left amygdala. And he says, whoa,
You're not just monitoring his brain. You're actually doing something.

(54:15):
This poor guy. Does he know what you're doing. And
it's like, yes, he volunteered. He's fine, you know, I
talked to him last week. And he goes and he goes,
and then he goes, there's this like torrid shaped toroidal shape,
you know, in the middle of his head, like energy
is fluxing through his head. And then he says out

(54:36):
to his right side, which is so happens is over
his right shoulder is the trail that led to the meadow,
he said. He goes, I'm picking up these boxes, like
you know, these images of boxes with faces in them.
He goes, does that mean anything? And it's like, Steven, yeah,

(54:59):
that's where the is. That's where the box and cube is,
you know, that's where the shadow people are. So using
that analysis and some other stuff that we've worked with
him on, what we have discovered is not only the
cube is not transient, it's always there. It's just not

(55:20):
there where we can perceive it. It's there in a
quantum state. And even more disturbing, and this took me
several days to process because I actually saw this the
evidence of this. There are these beings around us at
all times. Not only are we not alone, we are

(55:41):
never alone, and they're always there, always watching, always somehow
in the background, potentially affecting things around us that we
don't know about.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
And that is.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
The thing that I found most amazing is when Steven
started doing this analysis for us, he basically started hitting
on boxes and cubes and you know, entities and all
that and have validated the past nine years of our research.
And that's the most exciting thing that's come out of
twenty twenty five is a validation of all of these things.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Tight, guys, we got to pay some bills and now
back to the show.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
So I know this is an unanswerable question I'm about
to ask, but do you think the cubes are some
type of portal?

Speaker 6 (56:43):
Like in your estimation? What do you think these cubes represent?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
You know, I don't know if they're an avatar of
something else. You know, it could be that they are
actually an avatar or a three dimensional representation of a
multi dimensional object. That's just the way it presents in
our dimension. I think that the cubes seem to be
somehow correlated with transitional experiences, you know, and that's a

(57:10):
loaded term, but that's people going into another reality, like
Carl Higden and Wyoming being taken somewhere else. Some of
the stuff that's come out of the recent UAP hearings
in Congress, you have navy pilots talking about seeing a
cube inside of a sphere. The cube goes all the
way back to a very ancient structure, a very ancient symbol.

(57:36):
The cube has talked about in the Bible. You know,
the Sanctum Sanctorium in Solomon's Temple where the arc is
actually kept, is a big cube shaped room of perfect dimensions.
In Mecca you have the Kaba, which is a giant
black cube, which I.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Was going to ask you about that the whole like
Saturn black cube worship idea I've got.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
That's another chapter in my second book about cubes. And
you know, and I talk about the Kaba was actually
worshiped and revered by people pre.

Speaker 6 (58:10):
Islam, you know Jewish mysticism.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Correct, No, it's actually it's polytheistic. Is the people there
in the area of Mecca before Islam worshiped many deities.
And the interesting thing is in the Kaba. You know
what's in the corner of the Kaba, a mysterious space rock,

(58:33):
a meteorite that fell from the sky in prehistory that
is revered by Muslims when they take the Hajj or
the pilgrimage, that they try to get up to it
and touch it. And even to this day that you
know that rock is somehow considered very special in their
culture and their religion. So we move forward into the

(58:56):
New Testament. In the Book of Revelation, when John the
Revelator talks about Jerusalem coming back to Earth, how does
he describe it as a perfect cube? Translucent, fourteen hundred
miles per side. Once again, the cube motif the Alchemist

(59:16):
when they were describing something called the prima materia, which
is the basic building block of all matter, it's represented
in alchemy and sacred geometry as a black cube. Carl Young,
for some strange reason, on the shoreline of his cottage,

(59:39):
he erected a black cube. The second member of our
team that passed away, that went into the our cube.
His ashes are scattered at the meadow. Do you know
what his urn was?

Speaker 6 (59:55):
A black cube?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
A black cube.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
See, we got into this whole idea a very long
time ago. I think it was like right when Orren
first originally came on the show. We got into this
whole idea about this like cube dimension theory, and it's
kind of like a hard thing to fathom, but essentially
we're kind of throwing this suggestion that the way that
reality functions is that it's basically just all these cubes
that are stacked on top of each other, and there's
these certain points where it's almost like center access points

(01:00:22):
where you can basically shift into like different areas of
the cube. But the other thing that I was kind
of thinking about when you're explaining this is this whole
idea that we've talked out a few times about like
pocket dimensions, but another kind of extended version of that,
like what if these like pocket dimensions aren't necessarily pockets,
but like from our representation, we kind of view them
like it's a cube inside of our reality, but if

(01:00:43):
you enter that, there might be a cube that enters
back into our reality. Like it's almost like this continuous
idea about the only way to enter back through into
these cube realities is through cubes, like it's like the
main building block to get to different locations. But yeah,
I don't know, there's something very particular with cubes, and
it seems with like portals for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
And yeah, and the weird thing about cubes is you
show somebody like an image of a cube, it really resonates,
but people can't tell you why they look at it.
It's like it's very special, but I don't know why
it resonates with me, and it's one of those young
en Arc types that there's a genetic memory that we

(01:01:24):
hold cubes or boxes to be sacred. And I think
you're hitting on it. I think that's why in the
movie Interstellar, you know, when he goes into the multi dimension,
you know, it starts talking experiencing the multi dimensions. It's
almost like he's in a lattice work, and a cube
is nothing more than a part of a lattice work,
Cubes inside of cubes inside of cubes. And then you

(01:01:47):
start talking about some of the most unique and amazing structures,
crystalline structures here on Earth, phisioelectric and quartz and all
of that are lattices. So all of this is important.
All of this is very special to how it all
fits together. I'm not sure, but you know, I think
you're onto something absolutely. I think that that's definitely a

(01:02:07):
way to look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
I mean, especially if you're considering it from that viewpoint
that we're looking at the cube in our reality like
it's a cube, but if you go up at dimension,
you're not necessarily representing it as a cube itself. It's
almost like maybe we're at like the bottom and we're
looking into it, and if you look at it more,
maybe as like a doorway or a hallway that's stretching up.
Maybe that's kind of how the access point works. Like
there's portals that might go parallel to realities, and then

(01:02:32):
there might be these cubes that go up reality, so
to speak, because it seems like dimensions seem to move
up and across. So maybe that's kind of where the representation.
The difference comes in between the circles and the cubes
is a matter of going up or going sideways.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Yeah, you know, and that's very very astute because you know,
when we draw a cube, you know, we draw a
box and then a box, and then we draw all
the corners together, and that's actually a two dimensional shadow
of a three tonsonal object i e. A cube. Okay,
then you have something called a teseseract or hypercube, which

(01:03:06):
is a cube inside of a cube with all the
corners connected, but one dimension up in the fourth dimension,
all those angles are right angles. Now we can't conceive
that because we're unfortunately trapped in this three dimensional euclidian
world that we've quite frankly I think we've created in
our own mind. Because human beings are multi dimensional entities.

(01:03:28):
We you know, we can interact in multiple dimensions. That's
why we do remote viewing and telekinesis and stuff like that. So,
you know, talking about the cube as we interact with
it in places of high strange as being a lesser
dimensional representation of a multi dimensional object. But what it

(01:03:49):
gets really funky is just take the idea of objects
and and just throw that out the window. It's that
our three dimensional representation of a multi dimensional something, there
may may not be any delineation between object and intelligence
in these other dimensions. They might be one of the

(01:04:09):
same or nothing at all. So when you really start
looking at it like that, it gets really really funky,
and then you get into the theory. This is one
of my theories that you know, UFOs, bigfoot, cryptids, high
strangeness are all facets of the same diamond, and the
way they present into our world is just that one

(01:04:32):
element of their you know, their nature is reflected down
into our dimensions. So one time, this whatever this is,
this otherness might appear as a big foot, you know,
or another aspect of it might might appear as a UFO,
or it might be a ghost, and it might be
all parts of a much larger entity object or otherness

(01:04:57):
that we can't comprehend or understand.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
That's an idea we talk about on the show all
the time, about the phenomenon or the others as Shanelins.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
We'll always call them the others. That's like our terminology,
we call them.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yeah, wearing these different masks and presenting itself in largely
the way that the experience or might expect it to
present itself. If you're in the middle of the woods,
it will present itself as a bigfoot, if you're out
in the desert, it might present itself as a UFO.
So I mean, I think what you're getting at, I
mean I agree with wholeheartedly. You know, absolutely think aliens

(01:05:33):
and you know UFOs exist. But as I like to
say on the show all the time, more than one
thing can be true at the same time. And I think,
you know, there's obviously a very strange element to all
this that goes beyond flesh and blood, extraterrestrials in nuts
and bolt spaceships.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Yeah, I lecture any kind of going on. What you
say is when I lecture, I have a cardboard disc. Okay,
one side of the disc is red, one side of
the disk is blue, and at one point of the
lecture is I kind of step out into the audience
and I tell them I have it in a file

(01:06:11):
for it. I said, I'm going to hold this up
and on the kind of three, I want you to
tell me what color you see. And I hold it
up in half of the room yells red and half
of the room yells blue. I go back up to
the podium, I say, you know what, one percent of
you are right and one hundred percent of you are wrong,

(01:06:31):
because it's duality, and from your perspective, you perceived your
reality and only your reality, and you had no knowledge
of the other reality, but it was just as real
as yours. And then I'll take the disc and turn
it one hundred and eighty degrees so they can see
what I'm talking about. And they're like, oh, you know,
you fooled us up. And think about it. Your truth

(01:06:55):
with a lowercase T is not necessarily truth with an
upper case well, and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
That's something as simple as you know, a piece of
cardboard you're holding up when we're talking about you know,
these huge esoteric existential ideas like how many times greater
is you know that experience amplified in you know, things
like that are going on at the meadow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, and that's what I tell people, you know, when
you come out to the meadow, you know, especially when
I have guest researchers, is whatever you're expecting, just just
just leave that at home, because it may throw you
a curveball, you know, something that you absolutely are not expecting.

(01:07:40):
And I am not going to give away the film, okay,
because it has a twist at the end of it,
but it is one of those meadow curveballs that in
a very unexpected way. The other says, I'm still here,
I'm watching.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
Well, I can't wait to check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. And I also want
to throw in this other idea. This was something that
I was thinking about the other day, but I think
it kind of correlates with a little bit of what
we're talking about, with these things that are existing in
different realities and having different perspectives of the same thing.
But we try to correlate these things and try to
put them into ways that are fathomable for people. But
when you try to break them down, they may not
necessarily make sense. If you don't have the right perspective,

(01:08:26):
but you know, getting into something a little bit more biblical.
You know, when you talk about the Bible, you talk
about the Holy Trinity. You got you know, the Holy Spirit,
you know, you got Jesus, and then you have the Father.
So if you're looking at that, possibly from an interdimensional perspective,
you might be able to kind of visualize it like this,
that there's the version that exists in the physical world,
which would represent Jesus, there'd be this version that is

(01:08:47):
represented in the ethereal world, which would be the Father,
and then there's this version that is everywhere all at once.
They kind of exist in multiple places all at once.
So it's kind of a hard idea to try to
break down and fathom. But if you look at it
from that perspective, you know, maybe it might be a
representation on a lot of these other things that we
deal with that you know, there's this physical representation of

(01:09:08):
them that we're seeing, there's also this ethereal representation of them,
and then there's that's existing wherever they came from. And
then there's also this, for lack of better term, like
this spiritual representation of them, which seems to be this
h like the woo woo side of some of these experiences.
Like I think if you look into some of these
old books, you know, they're trying to describe some of
these things that completely make sense, but you have to

(01:09:29):
look at them from a different lens. And I think
that that whole idea about you know, I know everybody
has different interpretations of it, but the Holy Trinity might
also correlate with this whole idea about how we interact
with things that are coming from these higher realities of
these other dimensions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Well, you know that's a that's a very good point,
is you know that that's something that a lot of
Christians really struggle with, is the Trinity, you know, as God,
the Father, and the Spirit all at once, you know,
three and one. And you know, I tell people, you know,
I'm a fob, I'm a son, and I'm a brother

(01:10:05):
all the time. But I'm a brother to my sister,
I'm a father to my daughters, and I'm a son
to my father.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
And that's you know, when you start kind of looking
at the the you know, not only the duality of nature,
but you know, when you start getting into the multiples
of it, the tritality and you know, et cetera. Is uh,
it really kind of opens your mind and it's you know,
you can you can take that in two ways. You
can be kind of scared by it, No, I don't
understand it, it's scary, or you can take comfort in

(01:10:39):
that that there are things that I don't understand. But
it's all going to be okay because in the Bible
it talks about I am the Alpha and I am
the Omega, which is, in my opinion, a quantum statement
of saying everything that ever was, is or will be
exist now currently in a quantum state. And what we

(01:11:02):
do is when we go to these places of highest strangeness,
we take our finger and we dip it into the
quantum pool, and we stirred around a little bit, and
we see a tiny little ripple because we don't want
to wave. You probably wouldn't survive that, you know, we
get a little taste. And I take comfort in that

(01:11:23):
because this meat machine that I'm driving right now isn't
all that there is. There's much much more. It's probably
going to be a lot cooler than sitting in this
room talking to y'all. No, you know, don't take that
the wrong way, but you know, whatever is on the
other side, I think is going to be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Oh yeah, I definitely agree. I think we've trapped ourselves
in this reality unfortunately, and I think that there also
has been some working hands that have kind of pushed
us into that corner. But I think that if we
look at a lot of these things with this kind
of zoned out perspective, I think we'd have a lot
more understanding of them, because a lot of people will
kind of just kneel down on one specific thing and
be stuck in that. But a lot of the time
you just have to have that outside perspective and view

(01:12:04):
on things, and then a lot of this other stuff
might actually correlate along with it and actually make more
sense when you have a broader perspective on things. Absolutely,
all right, guys, this is our last break, so hold
on tight.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
And now back to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I guess kind of starting to wrap up towards the end,
we'll definitely have to do a round two because I'm
sure that there's still a lot of crazy stuff that's
happening at the meadow, and you guys are always continuing
on with this research. So yeah, at some point we'll
have to definitely come back for a round two and
keep diving into this high, strange this stuff, because we'd
even love to dive in some more with some of
these theories and stuff with you, because we had to
lay down the groundwork a bit, but I think there's
a lot to explore as far as these theories go. Too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Well, like my wife says, don't get me started, I
just I don't. Sometimes I don't have an off button.
I get all esoterical on this stuff. But yeah, it's
it's it's fascinating stuff, and uh, you know, we'll get
we'll get together. I'll pour me a bourbon so I
get kind of kind of all energized and everything, and
we'll we'll give it a go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Well, you can get justice esoteric as you want with us.
But mister Tray, thank you so much for coming on tonight.
It's been an absolute pleasure. I mean I was expecting
to be, you know, very interested in your work. I
was not expecting to be blown away to the level
that I was. So thank you so much for sharing.
Uh this has meant a lot to me, and uh,
I hope we get to chat with you again at
some point.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Thank you for the coin words. Or thank both of y'all,
thank you for having me. I mean, like I tell people,
you know, this amazing experience. It's not my story, it's
not the story of my team. It's the world story.
It deserves to be heard, and it deserves to be
told well said.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
And if anybody wanted to come and check out that story,
read some of these books to check out some more experiences,
check out the documentary. Even just keep track of your work.
Where can people come and find all of your work
across the internet? Where can they get the books? And
where can they keep tabs on you?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Probably the best way to do that is to just
just go to your local post office and look at
the wanted posters. That's how you tabs now. I'm kidding.
I kind of went crazy once I left government service. No,
it is. Probably the best way is to go to
my website, which is www dot Trey Hudson Research dot com.

(01:14:27):
On there you'll find links to the film. You'll find
the trailer of the film, the links on how to
watch the film, and you'll also go to the section
that says books, and then I have links to both
of my books, which are both on Amazon, or you
can go to Amazon, just typing Trey Hudson, you know,
the Meto project and it pops up. Also, I'm on
Facebook Trey Hudson, Hudson Dash author and you know, I

(01:14:50):
you know, I go on there and make pithy, smart
comments sometimes but mostly it's just a bunch of silliness.
But that's that's where I'm at usually.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Well, I'll make sure I include all those links down
in the show descriptions. Everybody can find it quick and easy,
and as Orange said, we really appreciate you making the
time to come on. It was a really, really fascinating conversation,
definitely connected in with a lot of stuff that we've
done researching slide always is a good sign that we
seem to all as a group beyond to the right path.
And we're really looking forward to chatting with you next time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Well, thank you, gentlemen. Can't wait.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
And if you guys would like to get in touch
with us for any reason whatsoever, Shane tell them how
they can do that.

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Not Sir orn Felix this time, mister switch it up.
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