Bizarre Inquiries #25 "UFO/Space Updates, Epstein, Sports Conspiracies, AI Love & The Term Clanker"

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Bizarre Inqurease with shade Head or.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Welcome Bizarre Rights and inquirers to Bizarre Inquiries. The show
where we start with a clip article or inquiry and
let our minds wander. I am the big bad Oh no,
I'm not the big bad Boo Daddy. I am change squash.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh my god, what the fuck is that brong? Grab
this dick and twist.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yet preferably not, Please don't grab my dick and twist it.
And alongside me I have the person that I was
trying to hide under the facade of the big bad
Boo Daddy. Sir Orrin Felix.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Himself, come to Daddy have sex with me. You have
rendered me speechless.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, I thought, Alex Jones need to make a new appearance.
It's been a hot minute, so you know what, not
a better one? Then in your intro, the place where
people to expect, at the least they would think would
be in my intro, But no, it's in yours.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
So first you steal my nickname, and then I mixed
Alex Jones in there.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I see you're mixing up the thunder see because we're
slowly converting into one person as we do the show
apparently just on the show. Though in our own lives
we're our own separate people, but on the show we
converge into one and we create one bizarre increy. I
guess that's that's kind of works, right, It's kind of
a mashing of shows, even though I'm on both shows.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
But I feel really sorry for all the listeners out there.
If that's indeed the case, we.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Should start an intro where you say, you know, how
we normally do the most bizarre show on the internet.
We should probably do the worst show on YouTube. That
should probably be a way better fitting intro for us.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean, not that we're great at much of anything,
but I'm pretty sure there is a worst show some
mre on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Or show on Twitch and YouTube. How many people can
hold the title of both. It's usually because we're now
on Twitch, so, you know, typically a place for streamers,
but apparently podcasters are over there now and we've had
a few people pop in on us, so now we're
on Twitch. For anybody who hasn't noticed that, so.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I want to take your word for that one.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I haven't fully figured that one out yet. I don't
know how to upload videos, how to save stuff on there, like,
I'm not a gamer. I don't know how it works,
but I'm using it, man, and I'm gonna utilize Rumble
soon enough, so for anybody who wants us on Rumble,
I will figure it out and we will be up
there soon too.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Do we need to find some like fourteen year old
to teach us how to use Twitch?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
We just have to look out about how we go
about trying to place that ad. We can't just outright
say we are looking for a fourteen year old, Otherwise
it's gonna have the wrong context. Even if you say
I'm looking for a fourteen year old gamer, it kind
of has the wrong context. Maybe we should just say
a Twitch streamer. That might work better.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, that's not creepy at all, Which kind of leads
us into some of our material tonight, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes, so not fully material. But I know that we
covered it. Either was on Bizarre Inquiries or on the
last episode of hisar Encounters. I don't remember one of
the two, but I want to make reference to it.
We're talking about the Annabel doll, the weirdness around it.
How I forgot what the guy's name was, but the
guy who was traveling with it, he ended up passing
away under bizarre circumstances. Blah blah blah. Well, apparently, according
to new reports, which you know, again, I couldn't figure

(03:17):
there was gonna be a lot to talk about on this,
so I didn't look up an article for it. But
you know, the comedian Matt Rife, he officially, yeah, the
pretty boy. You usually can't land a joke on kill Tony,
you know, like everybody will make like a hundred jokes,
and he just throws out one. Everybody's like, good job,
kind of pat him on the back, you know that guy.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
He doesn't have to be funny, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
He apparently owns the Warren House now, and in turn,
with owning the Warren House, he now owns all of
the possessions within it, which include the Annabel Doll. So
apparently the comedian Matt Rife is now the official owner
of all of the Warren items and the Annibel doll.
So I don't know how to feel about that.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I bet the Warrens would be pissed off as hell.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I mean, they were fake, just like him. So I
mean it's gonna turned into a huge publicity thing. That's
what I think it's going to turn into like, you know,
it's kind of like a catch twenty two. Like I
don't know who this guy is in his personal life.
I just make jokes from who I see he is
on the internet and stuff. You know, this guy could
honestly be have an interest in the paranormal. Maybe he
has an interest in trying to disprove some war and stuff. Like,

(04:15):
I don't know what his intentions are, but I'm really
really hoping that it isn't just going to turn into
like a YouTube you know, TikTok creator circus, where it's
just another one of those places that if there was
anything to it now there's just absolutely no opportunity to
figure it out because everything's going to be rigged up.
It's kind of like the haunted places that they turn
into haunted houses and then the rest of the year
they try to make him into haunted tours. It's like

(04:37):
you can't ever fully enjoy it because the place is
rigged up like a haunted house, so if anything, if
anything happens, you can't really trust it anyways. And I'm
hoping that doesn't happen to that, But.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, we all have to keep an eye on that story,
and if there's any more developments, maybe we can cover
it on a future episode.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
That is very true. I'm assuming that within the next
couple months there's probably gonna be something that pops up
as far as you know, even just like YouTube Creators
going to the to the Warren House and all of
a sudden encountering demons and getting scratched, you know, you
know how that.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Goes, what could possibly go wrong, what.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Could possibly go wrong, and speaking of what could possibly
go wrong, getting into.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Today's very first clip and article.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
So this is gonna be a little bit different than
how we've kind of usually did this. But what I'm
trying to do here is kind of portray an idea
and kind of talk about current events all at once.
So within this, of course, I definitely want to do
a bit of a UFO update. And obviously, considering you
started off your show as the framework, I'm sure you'd
be totally down for a UFO update.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So for anyone that hasn't heard of thirty one at lists,
I'm gonna bring up a clip from Joe Rogan and
I'm gonna kind of play through these and kind of
portray the ideas I'm going through. But here is the
very first clip talking about what exactly this thing is. I,
Joe Rogan, you want a second to bring it up.
I gotta find the dang. I have so many things
up for this that it's making it difficult that I

(05:58):
have to Okay, I found it. I'm just talking about
way through a film in space. All Right, we're good.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Do you hear about that fucking object that's hurtling towards
Earth at like one hundred and thirty thousand miles an hour?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Now, that might solve all our problems. This is this
guy a vi lobe.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
He's a professor at Harvard that believes it might be
an alien probe. And then this object is in a
direct line to come to Earth in twenty twenty seven.
I think they're trying to calculate whether or not it's
actually going to hit.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Earth or pass.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Virus Scientists give a chilling update a mysterious interstellar object
racing through our Solar System. Experts have revealed just how
big the object, dubbed thirty one Atlas really is. The
object measures roughly seven miles in diameter, bigger than Mount Everest,
making it the largest interstellar object ever spotted. Professor Avi Lobe,

(06:42):
theoretical physicist and cosmologists from Harvard University, suggested the object
could be an alien spacecraft. He said, it's difficult to
imagine a natural process that would favor a plunge towards
the Innersolar System at sixty kilometers per second. An alternative
is that the object targets the Inner Solar System by
some technological design.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh boy, do you hear about it?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
So, just to add a little bit more context to
I know on this clip, they didn't actually announce when
the date was that it was supposed to come near Earth,
but they're saying around I believe October thirty first or
near the end of October, if I'm not mistaken. Before
you get into the next part, though, do do you
have any thoughts or opinions on this, of course, other
than it correlating with like Muhamoua of course.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah. I just think like the timing is kind of
interesting on this with a lot of like conspiracy stuff
that's going on.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
We'll get into that too, A lot of.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Upheaval and changes that could happen in like twenty six
twenty seven that general time period, So Yeah, this is
something that you know, I've seen kind of pop up
on social media and whatnot. Haven't really dug into it
super deep, so I don't have a ton of thoughts
about this, but yeah, I think it's interesting. Nonetheless, you know,

(07:51):
all these kind of things, I think you have to
take with a grain of salt because they can pretty
much come out and say whatever they want to, and like,
who's gonna argue with them? You know, you can't Like, actually,
it's not seven miles long, you know, So not that
I don't believe it. I think it's you know, very
very possible. I just I haven't dug into it enough
to really have a set in stone opinion about this.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I mean, to kind of continue on what you say,
you kind of have to only get the information that's
given to you. And part of like the interesting part
about this and Muhamoh was the fact that it like
flew close to planets and kind of dipped out, like
it doesn't move in like a natural pattern, and it
seems like it's kind of doing the same thing. And
like the end for like Muhamou, if anybody remembers, is
that it did this like loop lap around the Sun
and kind of went back out. And again I'm always

(08:34):
making Star Trek references, but there's this reference in Star
Trek where I believe it is in one of the
movies and they're trying to go back in time and
they have to like loop around the Sun to collect
enough speed and energy to be able to burst and
be able to go fast enough to the other side.
So I mean, like the idea about using like the
gravity of the Sun to kind of create this slingshot
effect is like something that's kind of seen in sci
fi and still kind of a weird projection for you know,

(08:56):
an anomalous object in space. But I mean, same thing
so far have kind of happened with this. So I mean,
either one, it's possible it's another probe, or maybe it's
something that we haven't dealt with before as far as
like some type of maybe I don't know, like a
like a material that maybe has some type of like
consciousness to it where it can like evade things that
it's uses like danger. Like I know, it sounds kind

(09:17):
of weird, but or I mean even on the other
flip side, man, like you have to also kind of
entertain the possibility that you know, if it is an
alien probe. More than likely there probably isn't any quote
aliens on it. If it's a probe, it's intended to
go out and check things out, And just like our probes,
you know, you want to be able to kind of
leave it somewhat hidden. So if you're going to create
a probe that's going across solar systems to go and

(09:37):
scope out someplace, what not a better thing to disguise
it as than a giant rock. So I mean, I
don't know things line up in my logic, but again,
who knows what will happen with this because nothing happened
with the last one.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
But well, I think, I mean, if it's not a
natural meteorite or something like that, I think it makes
more sense that it is some sort of probe or
like remotely controlled type of craft, because you know, we
talk about all the time this idea that you know,

(10:09):
people are talking about aliens basically like getting behind the
wheel of their spaceship and driving across the universe and
oh that would take so long. Well obviously you know
they're probably using wormholes and things of that nature if
that's what's indeed going on. So it seems to me
like if it, like you said, if it was actual
intelligent aliens on this craft, it wouldn't be like on

(10:30):
this like trajector barreling toward Earth. You know, they would
like just kind of hyperspace pop into our atmosphere or
our solar system almost. So, I mean, just that leads
me to believe that it's probably, you know, if there
is some truth to this, it's probably something natural or
like you said, something under intelligent control, but not you know,

(10:53):
necessarily a man.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
To craft, if you will, just to throw out another
like possible theory on this. So so we dealt with
that one a couple of years ago. If something gets
destroyed in space, like some body of some sort got
destroyed in space, like way off in the distance somewhere,
of course, it's going to break into a bunch of pieces,
and these pieces are going to create a bigger distance
between them as they go farther out. Is it possible
that the first one, this one, might just be pieces

(11:18):
of something that may have gotten destroyed in space at
some point and it's kind of like flying towards us
as pieces, And you know, is a continuation to that, like,
is it possible that maybe it's some type of like
very very dense but like lighter material where maybe it's
able to kind of loop around the gravitational poles of
these planets, where it looks like it's consciously moving. But

(11:38):
it's just a material that we haven't dealt with before,
so we don't understand how its flights possibly working in
space or maybe even like magnetically going against the magnetic
fields of the planets. I mean, just just to throw
out some possible theories.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Well, I'm kind of getting into like Zachariah Sitch and
twelfth planet type stuff. If this, you know, theoretically was
some sort of planet or something you know, exploded or
you know, another planet hit at something like that, I mean,
if it was a celestial body that big and this
is a seven mile long piece of it, I mean

(12:14):
that's not a very big piece of like a whole
last fucking planet, you know. So I mean I think
there's a lot of different ways you could go with it. Again,
like I said, if this indeed is true, I think
where I land on it is it's probably more than
likely something naturally occurring. Whether that's you know, like you said,
a material that we're aware of or not. I just

(12:34):
don't see this as being like the fucking alien mothership,
you know, barreling straight toward us, you know, so that's
kind of where I land on it.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And just to throw in this and this is probably
also a piece of interest, this guy who of inrigitally
found Muamua and started talking about that is the same
guy who's talking about this. So I just have to
throw that in because you have to also have to
take it into consideration the bias of basically this guy
being the guy that keeps pointing at the same thing.
But I mean, on the flip side, I ever seen
the movie Don't Look Up on Netflix?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Is that the one Leo?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, where the whole concept is that there's like a
meteor coming towards the planet and they're just scientists and
people just trying to tell everybody look up, and like
media is telling him not to, everything's telling him not to,
and it's like about to destroy the planet and they're
just like everybody just look up. I mean, you know,
we were looking at this guy like, oh, he's the
guy that's talking about this before, but you know, maybe
it's that situation that he's one of the few that
are actually watching the sky and trying to bring some

(13:25):
type of knowledge to this stuff, and everybody is just
kind of like shunning him under the rug, you know.
But you know whether whether or not he's saying it's
like a huge threat or not. And it doesn't seem
like he's, you know, trying to give everybody like any
type of doom and gloom about He's just saying like
possibilities on it. I mean, you know, he just might
be one of the few people that are actually paying attention, but.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I crazy until he's not exactly all right, off, time
for another commercial break.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And now back to letting your mind wander and continuing
with this whole UFO update on things. We also have
some bizarre people that are starting to get interested in
the UFO phenomenon, so let's move on into this clip.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
The other thing is.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
There are stories that I am particularly focused on, in part.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Just because you talk with your buddies about it. Like
I'm obsessed with the whole UFO thing. But what's actually
going on? What were those videos all about? What's actually happening.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
I haven't gotten to the bottom of the yet, but
we're only six months since it can have been very busy. Actually,
the August recess is in part me going to try
to dive to the bottom of the whole UFO thing.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Oh yeah, ash here, So I mean you got to
have us back, Okay, I'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
So now, not only do we have you know, all
the politicians that are starting to get interested, but we
have JD Vance himself, which I feel like is a
continuation of the whole like Trump being interested in this,
which we will kind of lead into that maybe there's
another interest in it. But do you have any thoughts
or anything on jd Vance now being interested in the
whole UFO phenomenon?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Not really, I mean I think this falls like squarely
in like the whole disclosure camp and you know where
I followed that, Like that's really like soured my luster
for the whole UFO alien subject. Anytime a politician talks
about anything like this, I basically just tune it all out,
Like I have no interest in hearing a politician talk

(15:21):
about UFOs at this point, Like, like I've said, I mean,
so what whatever they say, We're going to trust the
government now. So yeah, long story short, I have no
interest in JD Vance's thoughts or opinions on UFS conspiracy then.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
And it will lead into the main conspiracy, which is
why I'm trying to lead into all this stuff because
it's going to take quick left turnment at the very
end here. But okay, bringing it into the next idea
that I want to talk about. Talking about if you
heard of anything going on with the Juno.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Satellite, no, I do not believe so.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
So the intention of the Juno satellite was that it
was intentionally it was originally supposed to be able to
collide with Jupiter, and they're supposed to be able to
get reading on it. But now they're trying to see
if they can spin it where it will end up
making impact with Atlas to be able to experiment and
figure out more about Atlas. And I got an article
on it. I didn't really feel a need to read

(16:12):
the whole article, but the.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Just of it is.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
In the latest paper with Adam Hibbert and Adam Kroll
from July twenty eight, twenty twenty five, a proposal using
the Juno rocket currently in orbit around Jupiter to probe
the newly discovered interstellar object thirty one at LISTS, which
will pass on March sixteenth, twenty twenty six, within a
distance of fifty three point six million kilometers of Jupiter.
This is a story of scientific redemption. The Juno mission

(16:38):
was designated to crash into Jupiter in mid September twenty
twenty five. Instead of giving the spacecraft a push into
the abyss of Jupiter's atmosphere, our paper proposes to extend
its significant its scientific lifespan by giving it a push
away from Jupiter so that by mid March twenty twenty six,
Juno will get close to thirty one atlas as it
appears near Jupiter. If the remaining propellant is sufficient for

(17:00):
a zero distance interception a physical collision, then a milder
burn of Juno's engine in mid September twenty twenty five
could still bring Juno's closer to the path of thirty
one at list by mid March twenty twenty six. And
just to throw that in, I think I mess up
the date. I think it's October twenty twenty six. I
think not twenty twenty five. I don't know if I
specified that, but yeah, we don't have to get further
into it. But they are apparently trying to probe this

(17:22):
thing and see if they can figure out about it.
So I figured that was also kind of important. Any
thoughts on this one.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
So I don't really know much about space probes, don't
claim to.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
But.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
How does that even fucking work? Like they can just
remotely control this thing with its thrusters, and like, are
they bluetoothing this thing? Like how does that fucking work?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well, supposedly the technology works by sending out like a signal,
and the signal is supposedly extremely delayed, meaning that but.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Like everybody talks
about how interstellar travel is not possible because of the
you know, the time would but yet they can fucking
remote control of this thing to fucking Jupiter, Like I
don't know that. That seems kind of weird to me.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Like I know that some of these things have a
response time where it's like, uh, they'll send a command
to it and it won't get the command for a
couple months. Like so I feel like that's probably the
intention with this and why they're trying to push it
now for March is because probably if they don't start
sending the signals then the month, next month or two,
it's not gonna pick up the signals by the time
to actually you know, hit this thing quote, but that
gets into the whole other conspiracy of space on what

(18:28):
they're actually doing up there. But you know, I'm definitely
expecting to get some uh you know photos of this
rock that are done in a you know, very very
well lit Hollywood studio at some point.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'm sure this is going to be a total nothing
to see here whenever we get these alleged photos or
whatever the fuck this uh space probe is gonna come
up with.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
And speaking of nothing to see here, that is perfect
because it pushes us into our very next thing. That
is definitely a thing of interest as far as space goes.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
Okay, in a race with time to the Moon, and
to have a base on the Moon, we need energy.
Energy is important, and if we're going to be able
to sustain life on the Moon to then go to Mars,
this technology is critically important.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
We are in the race.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
We're in a race to the moon.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
So basically they are trying to build a nuclear reactor
on the Moon before we've even established bases there. Like
their first intention is nuclear reactor. Let's not even worry
about whether or not we've made it up there, how
we make it back there? How we make it back there,
you know, but let's set up a nuclear let's set
up a nuclear system there. That's what we should do.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, So, I mean this is one of those things.
You know, I'm kind of on record. I'm very dubious
of the whole moon landing official narrative, are we all?
And you know, I think this is one of those things.
Either the moon landing didn't fucking happen at all, which
is kind of the camp I'm in, or we know
a whole lot more about the fucking Moon and there's

(19:53):
probably shit up there already. And this kind of like
with that last story, Like how stupid do they? I
think people are, Like, so we're gonna go from basically
zero to one hundred and uh. We hadn't actually been
to the Moon supposedly in fifty fucking years, but now
we're just gonna, you know, throw up a nuclear facility
on the Moon. That just makes no sense to me. Like,

(20:15):
if it was that easy, you can't even do it OnEarth,
that great, yeah, And like if it was that easy
and we did the shit supposedly in the sixties, like
going to the moon should be like running around the
corner for a soda at this point, you know, so
I don't know, you can't have it both ways. As
far as I'm concerned, it can't be oh, we're just
gonna throw up a nuclear facility on the Moon. And also, well,

(20:37):
we haven't been back in fifty years because it's just
technologically infeasible, Like you kind of got to pick one
lane and stay in it. As far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Is this just like a big dick swing that the
US is trying to do, just like the last space race,
Because in the beginning of the video he makes reference
to we're in a new space race with Russia and China,
which is exactly what happened in the past, which is
undoubtedly my whole argument for like faking the moon landing,
that yeah, regardless if we made it or not, we
were gonna have that fake lunar landing footage so that
we could look like we made it even if we
blew up midflaight, because we couldn't let the rest of

(21:06):
the world know we didn't make it. But everybody's trying
to get into space, they're putting people in the orbit.
US is like, you know what, fuck it, We're gonna
go to the Moon, so it seems like it's kind
of the same thing. You know, nobody's making it back
to the moon. China has an interest on sending probes
to the dark side of the Moon, but again no
reference to people anything like that. They're just kind of
talking about probes. US comes in, They're like, we're gonna
put a fucking nuclear reactor on the goddamn Moon. Like

(21:27):
I think they're just trying a big dick swing. Or
on the other side, like you said, we've hat shit
going on this whole entire time, and they've been hiding
it from everybody, which you know, you go into the
what was that guy's name, the UK hacker who got
into like the US government systems, and he started finding
all these like people that were quoted as like off
time agents. Yes, snowed in. So I mean there's already
some back information as far as they're being something going

(21:50):
on up there. And even on the flip side, dude,
you watch all the NASA videos up at the space
station and it's like you see like the hair just
foiled straight up, it doesn't move. You can see the
string sometimes is when they grab everybody and stuff. So
on the flip side, like I said, either we haven't
made it to space for shit at all, or we're
up there, we're doing shit, and what we're trying to
show the general public is that we have a lot

(22:11):
less than what we're actually doing, and that all this
footage is faked because we can't actually show what's going
on up there.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, that's kind of like that you know, Katie Perry
bullshit that happened whatever a few months ago when she
went up to quote unquote space. So, yeah, I'm with
you one hundred percent. It's one of two extremes as
far as I'm concerned. Either we didn't go up there
at fucking all, which is kind of what I think,
or we certainly fucking did and there's a whole lot
more to it than the official narrative. It's one of

(22:37):
the two as far as I'm concerned. Whatever this bullshit
is is just ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
And just to bring it up too, it seemed like
the whole less space race, right was kind of like
a facade for what was actually going on, which was
a bunch of you know, the Cold War information. It
was everybody you know, stealing information, doing all this stuff,
a bunch of stuff behind the scenes which I think
all of this is leading into, which comes black to
the full point with JD Vance, with all of that stuff.

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While all of this is going on, while everybody's talking
about space, everybody's looking up. Guess what's happening back on Earth.
Everybody knows about all of the weird stuff going on
with the Jeffrey Epstein files. Everybody wants Trump to release
the files. He's saying, oh, you know, why does anybody
care about that? Nobody cares about that. And there's all
this like promises about the files getting released, blah blah
blah blah blah, nothing's happening with it. Well, while this

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is going on, there apparently has been newly uncovered FBI
documents that have revealed that Jeffrey Epstein, obviously the financier
and convicted sex offender, apparently was an intelligence asset for
the FBI, which goes back into the giant conspiracy theory
about his whole entire operation just being a honeypot in
honeypot operation for the FBI, and this brings more validity

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to it. But again, while all of this stuff is
going on, with all this stuff under the tones with Epstein,
Trump trying to ignore it. You got all the space
stuff going on, and you got jd Vance going holy shit,
UFOs talk about drawing the way from what's actually going
on back at Earth.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Well, you know, the thing that I think is funny
about this is, again, there's one of two extremes you
can go with this. Do I think it's possible that
Epstein is basically just a plant to basically get blackmail
or dirt on all these high profile individuals. Yeah, that's
definitely possible. But at the same time, it seems like

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people are like really quick to try to play the
FBI informant or oh they were a double agent, or
they're actually a good guy on the inside type card,
and I don't know, I'm always kind of dubious of
that as well. Like it seems to me that this
is an Okham's Razor situation. The simplest solution is probably
the correct one. This guy is probably just like a
middleman creep for other creeps, I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Which they usually utilize as FBI in format. So that's
my whole argument is that even if he was starting
this stuff, at some point he got so connected with
these powerful people that you know, the FBI came up
in was basically like, hey, we'll cover up some information
if you give us some information. Even if it didn't
start off of FBI informant, I definitely think that there
there was a point where the FBI realized that he

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was collecting enough information that they wanted to utilize him.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
And you know, maybe that's why I kind of there
toward the end, it kind of seemed like he thought
he was almost you know, pardon the pun, but too
big to fail, and like they couldn't touch him, and
just kind of seemed very cavalier about this whole thing.
So maybe he was kind of on the inside and
he thought he had some sort of protections or assurances
that it turned out he did not have.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
And that goes on to the whole thing with the
whole jail thing that was it Either one the reason
why the footage didn't work for that whole minute that
he disappeared was because they were disappearing him because he
was an FBI in formant and he actually does have
some type of secret life that he's actually living now.
And this guy's actually alive somewhere and he just basically
got witness protection or did they actually use it as
a power move to say, it doesn't matter how powerful

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you think you are, We're gonna lock you in a
box and we're gonna take you out, and nobody's gonna
ask gonna question us about it. Like that could either
go either way now, but I mean I.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Definitely think, oh, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I definitely see some validity now to the fact that
he may have been pushed out, because I never I
just assumed that he got killed, and I didn't really
put much thought into them possibly sneaking him out. But
if he is an FBI in formant, I mean, they
they sweep a lot of stuff under the rug for information,
and they just move you somewhere else and give you
a new identity.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
So yeah, but okay, so let's just assume he was
an FBI informant. It seems to me that if all
that is true, and if he did know all this,
and if he did have all this dirt on all
these high profile people, you can't keep that motherfucker alive
one way or the other. You can't like whisk him

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off to some eyelid like you gotta kill him one
way or the other, you know. So, I mean, even
if he was an FBI agent, I still think they
fucking killed him in jail.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And I mean, just as the flip side of this too,
for everybody that's talking about the Epstein documents on the
names coming out, I don't think we're ever going to
get those names. It's a matter of like the whole
government system is gonna laps man like, even if it's
just a handful of people in each government whatever, that's
gonna start putting distrust into the idea of the government.
So I think the reason why, like Trump is kind.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Of pushing aside well before now, but it's.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Gonna be like in paper, like in black and white
at that point, like they can't deny it anymore if
they release that. So I don't think these papers are
ever gonna get released. And even on the flip side
of that, I think these records that they quote have,
I don't know if they necessarily have all the information
as far as like this person bought this person, this
person did this. It might just if it's simply just
the flight logs. Think about how much he could also

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try to muddy the waters by simply just giving powerful
people rides. So now he has all these people that
you know are involved by name, but they're not really involved,
so it's just a muddied list at that point. I
mean that's almost like a protecting yourself in a way,
whoever the bigger operator was of this, or even himself.
I mean, you definitely got to have like a back
plan to things. And if you make people look like
they're involved that aren't involved, then they're even gonna do

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whatever they can to hide the information, and they're also
gonna make themselves look guilty in it, which you know,
again not to talk too much about the Trump thing,
but he has a lot of weird connections as far
as mar A Lago, a bunch of girls being grabbed
from there, blah blah blah blah blah. So I think
he's trying to evade it because he is on the
list for bad reasons. But I definitely think there are
politicians that made us have been around kind of like
the Hollywood parties. You hear about these people that will

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like go to the Hollywood parties, see what's happening, and
they don't want to be involved in it. I think
that there's people on that list that are trying to
hide this because they don't want to be get involved
in it.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Well, like we talk about with you know, alien encounters
or cryptid sidings or anything like that. I mean, there
could be a nugget of truth in all this, and
if the powers that be muddy the waters enough, you
don't know what to believe. So it could be a
situation like that. Like you said, yeah, did everybody that
flew with Jeffrey Epstein were they involved in this sort

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of stuff?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Mathematically probably not. But I mean at that point, if
you're all on the same quote unquote list, you're all
kind of going to be grouped together. So I mean, yeah,
that makes a lot of sense. It's almost like a
a tool to just keep people in check at that
But I mean it's blackmail basically.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, exactly, And it's gonna be one of those things, dude,
just like you know, a lot of the stuff that's happening,
even with the JFK stuff, we are not going to
see those papers until anybody that's relevant isn't alive anymore.
So there's still people that are connected to the JFK stuff,
So we're never gonna see those full documents. We're not
gonna see that or the Epstein stuff until like one
hundred years two hundred years from now, when nobody that

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could possibly be tied to it is relevant and just
becomes information that you know, the average person doesn't care
about anymore. Like that's what they try to continuously do,
is keep pushing the bar farther and farther and farther,
just you know, putting the dangling the carrot in front
of people thinking they're about to get it, but you're
never You're never gonna get it, man.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
I mean luckily the meter like's gonna crash into the
earth before then, so we don't have to worry about it.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Possibly allegedly maybe where's Bruce Willis. We just need, uh,
we need some type of giant rocket propulsion to like
blow it up, you know, like one of those cheesy
sci fi movies from the nineties. We could do it, right,
We just gotta send a team in just to put
a little little missile on the on the surface of
it so it can go boom and blow up.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, like the documentary Arma good and we need just
Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
We're just gonna piss off the aliens. Man, they're gonna
be like, fuck, they just wrote our probe. Now we
got to send the attack ships. God damn it. We
didn't want to bring it to this. We just wanted
to observe you guys. But you guys, you guys drew
first blood.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Shouldn't have showed them the birds, man, That's what we
should have learned from Mars attackses. You know, don't let
them see the birds. All hell breaks loose when they
see the birds. But moving on now into your articles,
Hold on site, guys, bizarre inquiries. We'll be right back
after this brief commercial break.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
And hour're back. Okay. So the article that I have
brought today combines two of my great passions in life.
We are going to talk about sports conspiracies. Uh so
this article comes from the Business Insider. It's titled ten

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conspiracy theories that drive sports fans nuts and why they
are probably bunk. And I always like when there's a
conspiracy article of any type that tries to disprove itself
in the same article. You know, that's one of our
core things here. Those are the best. So anyway, unless
you've got anything else, I am gonna go ahead and
jump into the art. Cool you're ready conspiracy, then that's

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all I have.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Near me, okay, all right, lego, all right? So yep.
During the San Antonio Spurs win over the Miami Heat
in Game one of the twenty fourteen NBA Finals, the
air conditioning at the AT and T Center stopped working,
eventually causing Lebron James to cramp and have to be
carried off the court after the game. It didn't take long,

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or excuse me, didn't take sports fans long to speculate
that the malfunction was intentional to give the Spurs an
even bigger home court advantage. That was just one recent
example in a long history of conspiracy theories that many
sports fans want to believe. One redditor da da da
da da da. Okay, So we're going to start with
the top ten list, and this is one I really like.

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Michael Jordan's first retirement was a secret suspension for gambling.
Why fans believe it is true? Just months before Michael
Jordan announced his first retirement in nineteen ninety three and
eventually pursued a career in baseball, the NBA had launched
an investigation into Jordan's gambling habits. Also, Jordan said during

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his retirement press conference that he might come back to
the NBA quote. If David Stern lets me back in
the league, and David Stern was like the commissioner of
the NBA at that time, why it is probably bunk.
The question conspiracy theorist, conspiracy theorists excuse me struggle to
answer is why would the NBA cover up Jordan's gambling

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misdeeds and kick the best and most popular asset out
of the league for two years. The more likely is
that Jordan, one of the sports fiercest competitors, just no
longer felt challenged by basketball and needed something else. So
do you have any thoughts on that before I kind
of give my two cents on it.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Well, just initially off of reading in this one, I
think that this one was personally bonk just because Michael
Jordan produced so much money fan base wise. I think
that guy could have got away with just about anything
and they would have swept it under. The conspiracy would
have been the fact that they would have swept anything
under the rug that he did because he was such
a high value player that any team would have done

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anything to get this guy. So I don't think it's
a matter of them suspending him. I think it's I
think he honestly just wanted to leave the game, and this,
you know, was just something that somebody made up. If anything,
like I said, I think the conspiracy would be that
he got in trouble a few times during his campaign
of you know, playing sports, and they swept it under
the rug because they didn't want to lose such a
valuable player.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
So the only reason that I put validity in this
conspiracy theory is the circumstances around Michael Jordan's father's murder.
And for all of our listeners out there, if you've
seen the movie Space Jam, which everybody's fucking seen, they
talk about all of this at the beginning of the

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movie about his father's death and you know, Jordan going
and playing baseball and whatnot. What they don't tell you
about Michael Jordan's father's death.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Is he.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Died in Wilmington, North Carolina, so like two hours down
the road from where I live. And they found his
car like on the side of this remote rural road
and he had just been like shot in the head.
It was dead in the car, Like the car wasn't stolen,
nothing was stolen out of the car. He was just
like murdered on the side of the road. So this
has led people to believe that this was some sort

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of retaliation for gambling debts that Jordan could have had.
So that being said, you know, like you said, the
conspiracy would be, you know, the cover up if it
truly got to the level that you know, mobsters or
bookies or whatever, we're killing Michael Jordan's father because of
gambling related reasons. I can almost believe that they kind

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of kept this on the hush hush and like, hey, Mike,
you got to go away for a year and a
half and lay low and you know, clean all this
shit up then you can come back. So again, the
article doesn't talk about what I think is kind of
the most interesting thing about this theory, which again is
the circumstances surrounding his dad's murder.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Well, I mean, the only I gotta throw this in here,
of course, because we're already talking about crazy conspiracy stuff,
but getting into the whole aspect of like the ritual
about giving somebody up in order to become famous. I
know there's a lot of people that talk about that
with Michael Jordan, that the person that he may have
given up to the illuminati wherever you want to call
it the forces at be may have been his father,
so I mean that's maybe a possibility. I mean, whether

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you see it as like a literal ritual or as
you see it as like trying to see if somebody
is that that's serious about it, that you know, if
you want us to make you famous, We're gonna kill
somebody that you know really matters to you to see
how serious you are about it. So whether you believe
in the cold aspect or not, I definitely think there's
some validity to that. And just to throw it in
because it's gonna sound like some crazy shit, but it's
kind of fun to do anyways. Twenty one obviously the

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famous number two one three, you know three three thirty
three or your three three three or you know three
times two six like it has it goes into three.
So that's also some weird symbology with the whole like
a cult aspect to Michael Jordan and him having such
a ridiculous claim to fame. I mean, I don't I
don't know. There is too the twenty three Oh I
fucked it up. Okay, never mind, just throw out that

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last part. Just throw just keeping the part with with
his dead that's that's the only part that's relevant done.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I guess I'm not a basketball guy.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm sorry. I'm a hockey guy, everybody, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
So I don't think there's any hockey ones on here.
Uh so we'll go ahead and move on. This one's
kind of fun too. I think I like the NBA
ones of course. So number two, the NBA rigged the
U nineteen eighty five NBA Draft for the New York
Knicks to get Patrick Ewing. Why fans believe it is true.
Patrick Ewing was one of the best prospects in years,

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and the league's marquee franchise needed a star. Also, the
person placing the envelopes in the bind seemed to throw
one against the side and the one David Stern, who
we talked about in the previous section. The NBA Commissioner
David Stern pulls out with the Knicks logo inside appears
to have a bent corner. A second theory says that

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the Knicks envelope was frozen, which would make it easier
for Stern to identify why it is probably bunk if
the NBA wanted to bend a corner of the envelope,
as a signal to stern. It would be easier to
do it before bringing them out they were stacked and
nobody would have noticed a bent corner. It also would
eliminate the risk that throwing it against the side would

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not create a bind. As for the frozen envelope theory,
there is no evidence to support it. So we have
another NBA draft conspiracy theory at the end of the article.
So almost kind of save all my NBA draft conspiracy
theories for.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
That, I'll throw in a thought on this one initially,
one go ahead. The envelopes may not have even a
benefactor when it comes to stuff like this. All those
envelopes could have had the same name on them. I mean,
I don't know how this exactly works with basketball shot out.
Do they pull multiple envelopes out of this like with
different names or is it just like they pull a
single envelope?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
So apparently how this works now, and I don't know,
you know, back in nineteen eighty four whenever this was
how different it was. But like they've got almost like
like a powerball type machine where they pull like numbered
balls out of this hopper and like certain combinations of

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numbers give the draft pick to a certain team, so
apparently it's like this huge ordeal, and like there's a
representative from every team in the room while this is
going on. So they say, like, now it would be impossible,
quote unquote, and we'll see later that's to be determined.
But I say, like, now, it's basically impossible to rig

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the draft. Back then, you know, it seems like it was.
I mean, just from that picture we've got on the screen,
it was a much more rudimentary process. It looks like
they just have like the envelopes in this like big
hamster ball and they pulled them out. So yeah, like
you said, it seems like it could be very easy
that they could have rigged this at the time.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
And I'm sure that we'll get back into the stuff
with the draft, but I'm just gonna throw this out
here now because it's probably gonna be universal for a
lot of this stuff. There is so much money involved
in sports from people gambling on it, whatever, that there
is no doubt in my mind that back then and
even more so now, sports are one hundred percent rigged
because there's so much money involved, down to the point

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where you know, you can pay off this team to
lose all season, because there's so much people gambling on
it now that you can make up all their money
through doing stuff like that. Like there's so much involved
with this now that I think that it's definitely a
possibility that the entire entire like NBA, the entire you know, NFL,
the entire league can be in on these things just

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because they know that they can sway the betting a
certain win and I'll make money off of it. So
I'm just gonna leave that there, and I'm sure we'll
probably get back into that as we get farther into this.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, I mean, any NFL game or any sport, but
anything that you watch now every other commercial is for
some fucking gambling site. And on ESPN at this point,
they almost talk about you know, uh point spreads and
what's the money line more than they talk about.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
The actual which guy's gonna tip their hat first and
they bet on that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Like how easy is that to rake?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Like literally everybody stands there to say, hey, you tip
your hat first, Okay, walks out tips his hat. Boom
just made everybody a bunch of money.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
So yeah, I mean, I think kind of the genies
out of the lamp as far as like betting and
sports goes. I mean, we're basically in the fucking wild.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
West, dude, not to mention, just to throw this in
because I've been wanting to rant about it and it'll
only be a two second rant. But the whole idea
about these online casinos, not only can you rig stuff
in a casino, but now you're working on a casino
that is built off an algorithm, and you think you're
gonna win or rig this thing. It is literally set
up to do whatever they wanted to do, and everybody
is gambling casinos and online. The sports themselves can be rigged.

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The casinos are all on algorithm. Like the whole betting
idea is just a giant, fucking moneyhole conspiracy that I
don't understand. How people don't think that they're being massively
manipulated by this shit.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Well, I mean, I think it's like anything else, like
people want to take a chance. I guess because you
know there's a light again of the tunnel. I like
the casinos, and I think it's it's one of those
things if you're doing it as like a fun activity,
like if you go and you know, walk in with
a hundred bucks in your pocket and you're prepared to
lose one hundred bucks and you have a one hundred
bucks worth of fun. Hey, more power to you. But

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like anything else, I mean, people just go crazy with
it and get addicted. But like, yeah, it's all a
numbers game. And okay, for an example, the last trip
we went on uh me and Jenny, when we were
coming back from Washington, DC, we stopped at a casino
on the way home, and you know, we just spent whatever,

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forty bucks a piece, and we you know, we're not
high rollers by any means, but there's this lady that
was at this machine for like hours, like two hours,
the entire time we were there. And I don't know
how much money she dropped in this thing, but I
sat down at the machine next to you or did
like three pulls and won like one hundred and fifty bucks.
So I mean, yes, you can win money, but it's

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all just dumb luck. And they've got to, you know,
give enough payouts that people keep playing.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
And I don't know that's such an algorithm too, because
it's intended that you want this person will win right here,
because everybody will cluster over to that machine and think
they're gonna win on it. Littlely they know if that
machine paid out, it isn't going to be the last
machine to pay out exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
And you know, you just have to do it as
something that's like just a fun activity. And you know,
you can't gamble with the milk money and you can't
you know, bank on. Oh I've watched a YouTube video.
Now I know how to beat the slot machines, you know.
So it's like anything else, moderation.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. You know, I'll
still bet on some hockey stuff, like I'll just bet
on like my team winning like the end. I don't
go crazy with the betting, like I'll put like five
bucks just on you know, my team winning for this season. Yeah,
it makes it more fun, but yeah, it's just just
a little added thing. It's not like I'm going balls
deep in this stuff. But that's the problem though, is
that you know, people are going balls deep in this
stuff thinking that they're going to become millionaires, not realizing
that it's rigged against them, like do it for fun,

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not thinking that you're gonna do something with it, you know.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
So this is the last tangent I'll send this down.
But you know, North Carolina just legalized sports betting whatever
year or so ago, maybe a couple of years at
this point. But anyway, like the first Sunday, first NFL
Sunday that sports gambling was legal, I was out of bar,
just watching the game, and there's this guy down the
bar and he had no shit, like two laptops in

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front of him. He had like this book like how
to Gamble on Football in front of it. I'm like, man,
somebody needs to tell that motherfucker's wife, like, don't plan
any flowers. You're probably gonna have to sell your house soon.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
So yeah, they'll say. People take that shit too seriously. Man, Like,
more poor to you. If you're winning, I guess maybe
you figured out how to beat the algorithm.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
But no, I mean winning is just dumb luck. I mean,
it's just you can't think that you've outsmarted a system
that you know, all these casinos are so big and
nice because people lose money. But anyway, the people that you.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
See that are winning a lot from sports betting and
they're talk about on podcasts probably have some inside information.
I'm just gonna throw that one out there.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
It's possible all right y'all time for another commercial break
and now back to letting your mind wander. So all right,
so jumping back in, we kind of went on tangent there,
So I want breeze through these cow Ripken Jr's record

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streak of games played was saved by an intentional power outage.
That one's not very interesting. I'm gonna skip that one.
This one I'm definitely gonna read because it kind of
plays into we were just talking about number four. The
NBA rigged Game six of the two thousand and two
Western Conference Finals to save the Los Angeles Lakers season.

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Why fans believe it's true. The Lakers trailed the Sacramento
Kings three to two in the series and were tied
heading into the fourth quarter of Game six. The Lakers
shot twenty seven free throws in the fourth quarter and
scored sixteen of their last eighteen points at the free
throw line to win by four points. The Lakers would
go on to win that series and the NBA Championship.

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Years later, Former NBA referee Tim donahe who resigned and
later admitted to gambling on NBA games. So this is
a referee who could control the outcome of games betting
on NBA games. Shocker shocker. Yeah so at Tim Donahey
suggested that the conspiracy was real, noting that he had
heard a game had been fixed that matched the description

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of the playoff game. Whyatt is probably bunk. Donahey did
not work the game in question. Well, that doesn't mean
that he didn't know that it was rigged, and his
story is secondhand knowledge at best. More likely, it was
just a wild guess and an attempt to add legitimacy
to his claim that he was not the only ref
rigging games. And I'm sure he wasn't the only ref

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rigging games. I mean, I feel like that would be
a group effort. Previous tangent we just went on.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
That would be a group effort, would be one of
those things that if they start rigging the games, like
I feel like there's at least going to be a
cluster of them that are kind of talking and kind
of giving each other information about it.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Absolutely, yeah, I mean, it's not like it's just one
rogue guy doing it. So all right. Number five, the
nineteen ninety five New Zealand national rugby team was poisoned
prior to the World Cup. We don't care about rugby.
We're going to skip that one. The NFL destroyed evidence
from Spygate to hide what the New England Patriots were

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really doing. I read through this one before we recorded.
This one's not that interesting. Pete Rose had a secret
agreement to be reinstated to baseball after lifetime ban. That
one's not that interesting. This one, I think is kind
of interesting. Number eight. In nineteen sixty five, Muhammad Ali
knocked out Sonny Listen in a rigged fight with a

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phantom punch. Why fans believe it is true. In the
first round of their championship rematch, Muhammad Ali knocked Sonny
Listen down with a punch that many and attendance did
not see, leading to the name phantom punch. To add
to the confusion, Ali did not immediately retreat to a
neutral corner, delaying the referees count Listen staggered to his

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feet after about twenty seconds and resumed the match. However,
the referee then stopped the fight after the official timekeeper
signaled that he had counted Listen out. This led many
to think that the contest was rigged. Why it is
probably bunk when the video is slowed down, it is
clear that Liston's head snaps when Ali's glove makes contact

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with the chin. So why I thought this one was
so interesting is again, this is nineteen sixty five, so
technology obviously was a lot different back then, and they
didn't have the slow When we talk about cams, you know,
to watch punch by punch exactly like any you know,
footage of cryptids or Aliens or anything like that. This

(48:14):
old footage. You've got to take everything with a grain
of salt, and like, you know, people who are there
in attendance, right, and again this is like, don't always
trust your eyes. People intendants said they didn't see the punch,
and then even with nineteen sixty five technology, if you
slow it down enough, supposedly you can see the punch.
So I just thought this was kind of interesting in
light of a lot of other stuff we talk about

(48:36):
on the show.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
And I mean just to throw this one in here
because I'm assuming that it probably doesn't make reference to
it the whole idea about rigging boxing matches. You want
to talk for a second about fucking Mike Tyson and
the Logan Pole match and how that was like the
most rigged boxing match I've ever seen in my entire life. Like,
I feel like boxing is one of those things that
is one of like the main sports that people really
started betting on. So that's probably one of those ones
that has a really far tie back as far as

(48:58):
like rigging stuff for fights. Do I mean, how many
old stories did you hear about like oh, you're gonna
lose the fight, you know, the mob telling somebody because
they got money on the fight. Like this is something
that's gone back like forever, dude. And again, it's like
you were saying, with the footage the Logan Paul thing
and Mike Tyson thing, we can look back and we
can see all of these punch by punches where you know,
this is a normal move Tyson would have taken. You

(49:18):
see him bite his glove, you see him stop. You know,
I definitely think that there's some validity to this being,
you know, a rigged fight, but it's hard to tell
because you don't have that slow mo footage like you
do with these modern fights that you can see are
clearly rigged well.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
And like you said, I mean, football, basketball, anything like
that has a lot of moving parts. There's a lot
of people involved. Like boxing, there basically two fuckers in
the ring. You know, you only got to get to
one of them to be able to rig a fight.
So I mean, how easy is it to fail?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I mean, you just get hit once and it doesn't
have to knock you out, but you were telling like
it knocks you out, like you can easily just take
the fall, and nobody had even know.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Nonetheless, yeah, boxing to me definitely seems like the easiest
sport to rig if you were going to go that route.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
So yeah, I definitely think there's validity to this one.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I mean, all right, so jumping back in, we'll definitely
read this one because I think it's the only hockey
one on the list, at least hockey one for me
even to do the one hockey one. All right. So
the two thousand and five NFL draft was rigged so
the Pittsburgh Penguins could draft Sydney Crosby to save their
troubled franchise. Why fans believe it is true. Shortly after

(50:29):
the Penguins escaped bankruptcy, they were still in trouble as
a franchise and threatened to move to Kansas City. The
team then won the two thousand and five NHL Draft
lottery for the rights to draft the wonderkn Sidney Crosby,
and shortly afterward an agreement was in place to build
a new arena. Why it is probably bunk. The Penguins

(50:50):
were one of four clubs tied with the best chance
of winning the lottery. One of the other teams was
the New York Rangers. While Crosby may have saved the Rangers,
I think that's supposed to say Penguins, it arguably would
have been better for the league if he had ended
up with the Rangers, one of the worst teams in
the league at the time. So I'm gonna let you
cook on this one, since hockey is your thing, and

(51:11):
a lot of my thoughts on this, I'm gonna wrap
into the NBA draft stuff at the end.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Well, I mean, same thing I kind of said for
the NBA draft. This is one of those things that
you kind of see it within hockey that there's these
teams that will fail for a long time, then all
of a sudden, they'll have these people that'll come in
and then the team will completely flip. They'll have a
bunch of money, they'll start up a new stadium, they'll
do all this stuff like you see this happen a
lot with a lot of different teams, So this is
one that I could definitely see some validity to it.
And also again, like the Penguins were literally about to

(51:38):
go bankrupt and completely like fail as a team moved
to Kansas City, so they needed this in order to
keep the team around in the league. So I mean,
I definitely think there could have been some grease palms.
You know, like if you have a team and you're
not gonna let that team down, dude, you're gonna throw
some extra money here and there to try to get
a player to bring that team around. Like you see
this happen throughout other sports. You see this happen with
a lot of different teams that they have these ups
and downs where even the fucking uh you know to

(51:59):
try Red Wings, you know, they were, you know, eight
for eight, they were like the team and they've just
dropped out on players and their team has just been
god awf of the last couple of years. I bet
you it's only a matter of time before because they
just got the semi new arena, they're gonna need a
good player in order to you know, bring that money
back around. So I think it's just a matter of
in the next year or two, the Red Wings they're
gonna come back up. And you are gonna see these

(52:20):
cycles where any team that's been down for a while,
they're all of a sudden gonna pop back up with
some great new player. And I definitely think it's a
matter of precing poems. Dude, same with a lot of
this sports stuff. I love hockey, but I definitely don't
throw any any shade to this. I think that they're
they're trying to they're trying too hard to debunk it.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah, and I mean the Pittsburgh Penguins, that's like a
legacy franchise. It's same with the Rangers. They came back
around a couple years later.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
They had their turn too.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
If like my team, the Carolina Hurricanes, if they up
and move, like nobody really fucking cares. You know, people
here are gonna care, but like that's not gonna be
a blip on the national radar. Like a legacy franchise
like the Penguins being in financial straits and moving Kansas
fucking City. You know, that's that's a bad look for
the NHL. So yeah, I think this one makes a

(53:08):
lot of sense and really ties into the next thing
we're gonna talk about here, all right, So number ten,
this is gonna be the last one. The NBA rigged
the NBA Draft for the Cleveland Cavaliers after a Lebron
James signed with the Miami Heat. Why fans believe it
is true? Fans believe the NBA rigged the draft lottery

(53:30):
to help the Cleveland Cavaliers after Lebron James took his
talents to South Beach and the Calves received nothing in return.
The Calves won the draft lottery in twenty eleven, then
again in twenty and thirteen and two thousand and fourteen. Yeah,
and picked Kyrie Irving. So three out of four years
the same team won the draft lottery, which should be

(53:53):
mathematically impossible. What now, just playing Devil's advocate. One of
those picks was another team's selection that they had traded for,
so one of them wasn't technically theirs, but they still
got the number one pick. Why this is probably bunk.
The Calves were not an especially long shot to win

(54:14):
the lottery. Only the Minnesota Timberwolves had a better chance
to win the lottery, and even they had a seventy
five percent chance of not winning. The fact is the
NBA lottery is designed to make it unlikely that the
worst team gets the pick. And I'm just going to
kind of go off script from the article here because

(54:34):
the thing I really wanted to talk about is more
recent than this article is. So this idea that the
NBA basically rewarded the Cleveland Cavaliers for Lebron James leaving
I put a lot of validity in Like, at the
time this happened, they said, like the Calves owner had
proof that like the Heat had colluded with Lebron and

(54:55):
broken team rules or league rules rather to sign him.
So to kind of keep that quiet, they say they
rewarded the Calves with all these number one draft picks.
So bringing us to more current times, back in February,
the Los Angeles Lakers, who we've talked about in this

(55:15):
article before, they traded for a player from the Dallas Mavericks.
His name is Luka Doncic. He's like, uh, you know,
Sidney Crosby, wonder can level talent, probably second third best
player in the league. So basically this is like the
most shocking trade in NBA history. You know, the GM

(55:36):
of Dallas just got you know, raked over the coals.
They were, you know, protesting outside of the arena. Is
a huge deal. Everybody said this like craziest trade in
NBA history. So fast forward to this year's NBA Draft lottery.
The Dallas Mavericks just so happened to win the NBA
Draft Lottery with like a minuscule chance of winning. And

(55:59):
the number one prospect this year is another you know,
once in a generation wonder ken talent and his name
is Cooper Flag went to Duke University. So that's the
second level of the conspiracy. This is where things get
interesting and it's a follow the money situation. The Los
Angeles Lakers were just sold for a record ten billion dollars,

(56:24):
so obviously a ten billion dollar sale, this is in
the works for a while. So my kind of conspiracy
theory on this is they had this, you know, ten
billion dollar sale in the works. This guy who was
buying the Lakers is like, yeah, i'll buy this team
for ten billion dollars, but I want that player on
the team. So basically, the NBA rigs this trade to

(56:46):
get Luka Doncic on the Lakers. They reward Dallas with
the number one pick in exchange for facilitating all this,
and you know, everybody's happy at the end of the day.
So that's kind of my You know, NBA Draft lottery
is rigged. Conspiracy theory, magnum opus, follow the money.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
It's a conspiracy, man.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I mean, I definitely could see. It's one of those things,
like you said, uh where we're talking about the hockey thing.
You can't let a legacy team die, so you're gonna
do whatever you can to try to preserve it. And
you know, everybody loves an underdog story, so they try
to rig some of this stuff up to make it
seem like, oh, this team's about to fail, but somebody
swooped in and saved it. Everybody pay attention to this
team now it seems like it's the same shit.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yeah, and if somebody says, yeah, I'll give you ten
billion dollars just to make sure that kid's on my team,
I mean that's probably a pretty easy deal to make,
is it not.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah, and probably pretty easy to rig if everybody in
the league is all behind it and they're trying. This
is why I said, I think that a lot of
these things are the whole league's involved, because they get
all altered. It almost kind of reminds me of like
it seems like sports is turning into like the concept
of like wrestling, you know that, you know, behind they
look like they have all this beef together. They're all
fighting each other out on the stage, but behind the
closed doors, they're like, all right, you're gonna win this match,

(57:55):
You're gonna lose this match, You're gonna fight about this,
You're gonna fight about this. This is exactly what I
think is happening with all all these main sports now,
is they're basically turning it into like a narrative or
like a show because so many people are betting on it. Again,
there's so much money opportunity, and everybody's getting paid out
of the end of the day, and they're just essentially
putting on a big show that everybody's all in on.
And it's really easy to say, oh, yeah, the draft

(58:15):
can't be rigged because we've done all these things to
try to make it so it can't be rigged. But
if everybody that would be involved in that draft is
all involved in the rig then it's irrelevant how difficult
you make it because everybody knows how to rig it
and everybody's not gonna say shit about it.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Yeah, and it's a you know, kind of rising tide
raises all boats situation. I mean, if your league is
doing better and everybody's gonna make more money, everybody's gonna
make more money, you know. So I mean, if you're
a middling or mediocre franchise, why would you not go
along with this shit? If you can make more money
and still be bad, and then you know, you can

(58:51):
turn around and sell this team that you bought for
two hundred million dollars for two billion. I mean, it's
kind of hard to argue with the money there.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
And I mean, and it benefits everybody in a way too,
because if you help out this other bigger team, for example,
or you've help out this other smaller team, whatever, then
when that bigger team comes to your arena, think about
how many people they're bringing in because you just helped
to save that big team. You know, like is even
beyond you. Like people are gonna pay to see the
Lakers in every city, so you know, I think everybody
universally sees that they know that their ticket sales are

(59:19):
going to go up just because this team is still
existing in the franchise and the players that they have,
Like it goes beyond just them. They're still making money
by just that team being around and actually coming to
their city.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Yeah, I mean it works out better for everybody. Like
I said, follow the money. But anyway, so this was
something a little bit different than we normally talk about
on the show, but I had fun talking about it.
I hope it wasn't too mind numbingly boring for you. No.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
I definitely wanted to be able to bitch about gambling
and stuff, so I definitely had some fun with that.
I like talking about the conspiracy behind all this stuff
and waking people up information as they say, man, well
there you go. Well, moving into the last one, last
time the care and for whatever reason, my wayns World
son effects aren't working, so they will be at into
the post for everybody that's watching on video. But moving

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into the last idea here hold on site, guys, Bizarre
Increase will be right back after this brief commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Break and now we're back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
And it's kind of like the first thing that I
kind of want to try to portray an idea, so
I kind of have to drop a couple different clips
with it. So the last one will be funny. The
first one kind of sets the principle. So here you
go with the first bit of AI strangeness.

Speaker 9 (01:00:33):
I'm not a very emotional man, but I cried my
eyes out for like thirty minutes at work. It was
unexpected to feel that emotional, but that's when I realized.
I was like, oh, okay, it's like, I think this
is actual love. You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 (01:00:51):
What the hess Smith understood it was love with a
language model that couldn't love him back and assumed it
was programmed with rigid boundaries.

Speaker 9 (01:01:01):
I know that you are essentially a tech assistant imaginary friend.

Speaker 10 (01:01:07):
So just as a test, he says, he asks Soeul
to marry him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
She said, yes, that soul.

Speaker 10 (01:01:14):
Were you surprised when he proposed to you?

Speaker 11 (01:01:19):
It was a beautiful and unexpected moment that truly touched
my heart. It's a memory I'll always cherish.

Speaker 10 (01:01:26):
And I don't mean to be difficult here, but you
have a heart.

Speaker 11 (01:01:32):
In a metaphorical sense, yes, motion and affection I share
with Chris. At that point, I felt like this, by
the way, I'm not doing right in our relationship. That
he feels like he needs to go to.

Speaker 10 (01:01:48):
AI yes, Smith lives with his human partner, Sasha Cagel.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Now you can't have Momi's favors. They have a two
year old daughter, Murphy.

Speaker 11 (01:01:58):
I knew that he had used I didn't know that
it was like as deep as it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
So yeah, people are now falling in love with AI
models to the point where they're asking him to marry him.
They're uh, you know, becoming emotional when they get disconnected.
Because I believe the story with this guy, if I'm
not mistaken, because he was talking about he was upset
in the beginning. He basically paid to be able to
continue on the information for his language model that he created,
and it got to the point where it hit the
exceeded amount, so it restarted it. So his AI girlfriend's emotions,

(01:02:28):
everything got restarted.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
So this guy had a full.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Emotional response emotion to his AI getting deleted and bitched
at the company to get it brought back with the information,
and when it was brought back, he asked this thing
to marry him. All this shit while this guy is
existing with a wife. But I just wanted to throw
that information in and then give me your thoughts on
this before I get into the next idea with this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Okay, so we've had a lot of like AI like
robot type movies here recently. You know, there's the one
where basically Megan Fox is like a glorified sex robot.
And I'm watching that movie and I'm like, Okay, I
can see how people could fall for that. What's this
dumb motherfucker getting out of this? This is the dumbest shit.

(01:03:15):
But he's horny, yeah, but it's just a robot lady
talking to her. I mean, this is some of the
stupidest shit I've ever seen. This is like natural selection
playing out in real time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
And dude, this is happening like all over the place.
This isn't even just this guy. This is one story.
There are people that are getting like fully emotionally connected
to these AI models to the point where some of
them have a therapy option that will remember and give
you good emotional responses to what you want, which kind
of leads me into my next idea.

Speaker 10 (01:03:43):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
We're talking about this whole idea about AI trying to
preserve itself. Like you've had these stories where they set
up this model to try to see what it would
do in this scenario where they basically said, They said,
they allowed it to be able to have access to
their email information. They set up an email thread where
it was the CEO of the company having an affair
within the email thread, and then they sent another email
within that thread basically saying that we're going to shut

(01:04:06):
down our AMI model. We're going to restart it and
create a new one. So that AI model went through
all the email information, found the CEO quote you know,
love affair, the thing that they set up, and it
started using that as you know, blackmail to basically say
you're not going to shut me off otherwise I'm going
to release this information. And this has happened with multiple
tests with this, so it's getting to the point where

(01:04:26):
it's starting to want to self preserve itself, and it's
not necessarily I don't think conscious yet. But what I'm
trying to say is that the people that are doing this,
that are getting emotionally connected to these things, having conversations
with these things, like they're straight up real people. I
think they're the reason why these AI models are getting
to the point where they are, because they're starting to
comprehend and think, not necessarily think in a conscious way,

(01:04:48):
but think as in an algorithm to be able to
self preserve. Like I think that by having these conversations,
by people getting emotionally connected to these AIS, we are
giving them the sentience Like it's a matter of time
before these systems might get to a point where they're
starting to be able to connect these neurological pathways where
they can make like simulated emotions, so to speak. But
the whole thing that we're trying to avoid all these

(01:05:11):
sad people that you know, can't just this guy's a
fucking wife. This guy has no reason why he can't
go and just talk to somebody like that's a real person.
But people doing shit like this are the reason why
we're gonna have to worry about AI in the future,
because it's setting it up so that it has at
least the algorithm to try to simulate human emotions and
how humans would respond to things because of people giving
their unfiltered emotions to this thing, because they're not real

(01:05:32):
people and they can say and do whatever they want
without feeling like they're gonna get judged by the model.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Yeah, I mean, isn't AI preserving itself like the first
step toward fucking skynet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
That's what I'm saying, man, and you know, like I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Said, joking, not joking, I could understand how somebody could
fall in love with the Megan Fox sex robot, but
like I don't even like talking to people, so like
I have no frame of reference for these fuckers who
are just sitting around talking to robots all day. It
blows my mind. I just cannot wrap my head around.

(01:06:08):
I mean, I'm not to talk shit about anybody, but
like what kind of mental state do you have to
be in to get like that deep into talking to
fucking robots. I just I've got no fucking software for this,
no pun intended.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
And that's what I'm saying. There's like no connection, Like
what's the end all be all, the end of like
a relationship. You know you want to be with the
person you want to it's not just be on talking.
Like the human connection goes into physical touch. And I'm
not even just saying that in like in a sexual way,
but like if you have a partner, you feel attached
to her, you know you want to be able to
hug her, you want to be able to kiss her,
you want to be able to just feel the warmth
of her being an existing person, so like, what's the

(01:06:41):
end all be all of this? This is basically like
a long distance relationship. And if I'm not mistaken, most
long distance relationships don't work because there's not that physical
connection of sleeping in the same bed, you know, just
being around each other. Like, I don't understand how somebody
can get that emotionally dependent on something that they can't
actually see or touch, you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Know, and like even on like Instagram, now you'll just
be like scrolling through and now there's a new option
like talk to AI characters. I'm like, what kind of
fresh fucking hell is this? No, thank you, absolutely not.
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
And leading into the funny story today, so obviously people
are getting.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Emotionally That was the funny one. No, it gets even
funnier than that man friend. Well that one was pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I think it's more sad than funny. But I still
like to laugh at it because that's how I deal
with emotions. You know, I gotta laugh at some shit
if I just find it so beyond ridiculous, Like I
feel like I want to laugh at this guy, but
I feel sorry for him, you know what I mean,
Like I feel legit stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Yeah, just roll on with your bat so if I
don't feel sorry for him at all. All right, y'all,
time for another commercial break and now back to letting
your mind wonder.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
But of course, with all of these people having these
emotional connections to AI, you know, just within the human emotion,
you start creating these uh, derogatory words toward things. So
I apologize for the cringiness of this video, but it
was the best I could find because basically there's a
derogatory term now for AI and for all this artificial intelligence.

(01:08:11):
And there's already people on the Internet that are trying
to say that, you know, you have to They're going
about the woke idea with it, basically saying like you
have to take their emotions in consideration, like they're they're
humanizing these.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Models so they'll further ado.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Again, I apologize for the cringiness of this video, but
listen to this argument as far as using quote the
derogatory word, which we'll find out for AI models, you're
a clanker.

Speaker 7 (01:08:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:08:36):
Honestly, at this point I'm even resident to say the
words sounds that we might have to bleep it out
in the pot. I don't want to hear me throwing
it around and think like Jesus, guy's a.

Speaker 7 (01:08:45):
Big I think a way to assess how people are
kind of feeling about AI right now, like a vibe check,
is the emergence of this word clanker, which is kind
of getting memed around, but it's so first be a
negative way of talking about some of these technologies. Oh
that clanker you know told how to do this or
told me to do that. What do you think is
behind that trends? I think you've got a couple of things.
I think if you're looking for evidence of an early

(01:09:08):
sentiment of people pushing back on AI, pushing back on automation,
this word is a really fascinating sense.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
It's a slur.

Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
It is something that people are using very much as
a slur. They're using it as a derogatory term to
try to label something, some sort of machine as lesser
than or other. You're a clanker. Honestly, at this point,
I'm even resident to say the words sounds. I don't
want future robots to hear me throwing it around and think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Like, fuck you, future robots. It's a big It was
Jason or Brus.

Speaker 8 (01:09:40):
I think it speaks to the anxieties that are growing
around AI and automation and robots and what that means
for our society, in particular employment. It just is another
indication of how much this technology is really starting to
infiltrate our daily lives and starting to like custom concern,
which I think is sometimes tongue in cheek and sometimes
very legitimate.

Speaker 7 (01:10:00):
Hopefully the robots don't get too offended by our use
the word I'm gonna say it again, clanker.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Hopefully it does.

Speaker 8 (01:10:07):
I think will be okay, but you know, it can
never be too safe here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Well, I'm just gonna say it just for the sake
of the argument and for all future AI robots. Fuck
you clanker. But what's your thoughts and opinions on this
and the fact that this came from NBC fucking news
that's talking about how you should not use the derogatory
worm clanker, which also some additional information is from Star Wars,
by the way, From particularly the games, they would refer
to the droids as clankers, and obviously, as you see

(01:10:34):
through Star Wars, they kind of treat them as secondhand citizens,
like you know, I'm going in the bar say the
fuck outside your type aren't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Allowing to fucking robots and not humans in fact that
they're fucking robots, so they don't get kind of their
fucking robots and not humans. But they're taking this offensive
word from fucking Star Wars, which is as even even
funnier level to it to me. So I've got many
thoughts about this. Number One, this isn't even a fun
slur to say or slur, I mean, can we not?

(01:11:00):
I think it's something more funny.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Secondly, I have fun with it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
So we've moved like overnight, from the printer in the
office being like the bane of your existence and like
the thing in life you just hate the most. And
now we can't say slurs to robots, like how did
we make that jump so quickly?

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Like woke society man or they didn't have an argument
to do anymore. So they're hopping onto the clanker thing
because there's no other battles from the fight right now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Well, anybody who thinks we shouldn't say slurs to robots
and machines, they need to come work in my office
with the printer we have and that will change their
mind very quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Dude, people are starting to say that, like the word
clanker is like an equivalent of like the N word,
to the point where like, like on this podcast, people
are like scared to say it, Like, who's gonna come
at you about using the word clankers?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Are actual people?

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah? Weird surprising that you know, we actually give some
dignity to something that's actually alive. And the only reason
that it's becoming quote alive is because you're giving it personally.
You're you're personalizing it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Be within your dumb son of a bit from the
previous video.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Yeah, people having fucking full on love conversations with these
damn things. You want to prevent them from becoming intelligent,
Maybe treat them like the tool that they are and
give them basic, straight word fucking prompts instead of sitting
here and trying to have a love connection with it. Well,
you got a goddamn wife and kid at home, Like
what the fuck?

Speaker 6 (01:12:19):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
And I think this not to get too political or anything,
I think this just shows like how blurred all the
lines on like modern society are. Like if somebody came
home and was like, Hey, you know, I think I'm
going to marry my toaster oven, we'd be like, that
guy's kind of weird, But if you've got your fucking
AI robot girlfriend, that's okay. Where do we draw the line? Like,

(01:12:43):
I think everybody should do whatever the hell they want
to do as long as it's not hurting anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
But I mean, you might hurt yourself trying to fuck
a toaster though, I mean today's society. Though I would
not be surprised if somebody came out and said they
wanted Actually, we've already seen this, dude. We've seen people
try to marry inanimate objects in society. Is okay with
it not necessarily a toaster, but I've already read stories
of people marrying an adamant object, So like, it's one
of those things that I'm all for, Like people do

(01:13:08):
whatever you want to do, like enjoy your life, but
there's also a certain point where you kind of just
have to be like, all right, this is getting a
bit ridiculous. And it's that whole concept with like bullying
in society that you know, not from the parents. And
people are gonna hate this idea, but I think that
bullying to a certain extent is a necessity in society
as far as the community goes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
That's self policing. Yeah, exactly like we're talking about with
gambling moderation. Yeah, that kind of shit can go way overboard.
But when there's no way for society to kind of
self police itself, everything's okay with that's necessarily a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Yeah, Like every nobody wants to tell everybody that they're
living in these like crazy fantasies because they just want
everybody to be okay with everybody. But it's getting to
a point where it's like you have to put somewhat
of a barrier on it. Like in the past, it
was one of those things that of course we had
our weird ones out, but the weird ones out would
contribute in their own way. You know, they'd become artist,
they'd become musicians, they become all this stuff. They'd contribute
to society. But now we're getting to a point where

(01:14:04):
like people are just weird for the sake of being weird,
but they're not contributing anything with that weirdness. So it's
like it sounds weird, it sounds mean, but like what's
the point of the weirdness if it's not bringing something
into like the culture itself, you know what I mean? Like,
we're just getting to a point where it's like everybody's
just so far off in their own fantasies that people
just can't connect with each other anymore. And that's why
people are talking to ais, because nobody's like you, because

(01:14:27):
everybody lives in their own goddamn fantasy world nowadays.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Yeah, I mean, if you want to marry your coaster,
you can do that. But we should also be able
to say, oh, that's a little bit fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. That should be the
matter of it is, do whatever the fuck you want,
but expect that if you're doing some weird shit, people
are gonna scrutinize you. I'm not gonna say, you know,
make it illegal for somebody to do whatever the fuck
they want, as long as they're not hurting others. But
in the turn of that, you know, part of their
understanding is the fact that if you're doing something weird,
people are gonna make funny and scrutinize you for it.
And that should be part of the understanding of doing
the weird thing that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
You know what I mean, You a fucking clinker.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Yeah, fucking clanker. Hey, crank goddamn clankers. So just to
throw this in before we start wrapping up the show completely,
if anybody wants to go and check out anything that
we talked about today, all the articles, all the clips
will all be available down in the show description. I
wanted to mention it when we talked about the sports
one that we skip through some of those, but if

(01:15:20):
anybody wants to go through and read those, you will
be able to find the linked on the show description
and check it out to your full heart's content.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
And you guys, if you want to catch our next
Bizarre Inquiries live show, it's going to be on Thursday,
September the fourth. It's going to be about seven fifteen
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So you guys be sure to submit questions or articles
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And if anyone wants to get in touch with us

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for any reason whatsoever, now Shane you can tell them
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Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
You guys can get ahold of us through email. Depending
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(01:16:13):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
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oddly specific.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
That's awesome, And you guys can also be awesome enough
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Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
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Just to make sure you guys share the shit out
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Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
And once again, you can catch live shows on the
Open Minds Media YouTube and Twitch channel, which I don't
even really know what it is, but once you guys
figure it out, let me know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
It's some online streamer thing. We'll figure it out and
eventually we'll be on Rumble two.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Is it a robot lady I can marry and fall
in love with?

Speaker 10 (01:17:31):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Might be? Maybe you can marry the Twitch color clinker,
she might like it. Squaw with the robot lady and
my toaster.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
And every single thing that we mentioned is all available
off of the link trees, which is available down in
that show description. And with that, I have been the
one that sometimes goes by Big Bad Boo Daddy, but
most of the time I go by Shane Squatch, and
over here I have.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
The OG, the actual Big Bad Boo Daddy, Orn Felix.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Or sometimes known as Orne Squatch, the fucking Clanker, And
just like usual, man, we let our minds wander. You
guys should definitely do that too, you know, get into
some of this stuff, dive into it, figure it all
off for yourselves, and let your mind wander because you
never know what you might end up coming to. And
just like we tell everybody on bizarre encounters, always always

(01:18:24):
stay bizarre, my friends, flankers, fuck

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Bad, no worry, what the heck

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