Bizarre Inquiries #27 Halloween 2025 Edition "Poisoned Halloween Candy, Shining Conspiracies, Bizarre Police Calls, & The 4 Corners Game"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sorry Inquiries with Sheep.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
What's up, guys, and welcome to this very, very exciting
Halloween edition of Bizarre Inquiries, the show where we let
our minds wander, starting with a clip, article, or inquiry.
I am the one that some people refer to as
Shane Squatch.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
What is that? Hi?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm the wicked leader, and alongside me I have the usual,
the big bad boot out of himself, sir or in
Felix steady, A little bit prerocative, a little bit halloween ish,
a little bit scary. I I got to mix all
the emotions together for this one.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Hey, well that's a perfect encapsulation of me. A little prerocative,
a little scary. I mean it works perfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Look at you're at the black T shirt on over there,
looking all sensual and seductive. I mean ironically. Look we matchday.
We're doing the Halloween special wearing all black. We got
our spooky articles and clips ready this one. This one
should be a fun show. I know it's early in
the spooky season, but I mean it's kicking off our
what four week adventure of Halloween goodness, and this is
week two. Now I think of our Halloween goodness in.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Our house We've been celebrating Halloween since Labor Day, so
I mean we were like a month deep at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, I mean is what it is, man. I mean,
as soon as it starts getting cold out, I know,
for me, at least, I started getting into the Halloween spirit.
I think I ended up decorating like mid September. But
at the same time, it's like, if you're gonna put
the decorations up, I want them to last and feel
like it was worth it, because I really hate putting
decorations up and then having them only be up for
like two weeks. It kind of feels like it defeats
the whole purpose, you know, like it feels like it's

(02:06):
just too much at that point, like I want to
enjoy the Halloween decorations.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, me and Jenny we're talking the other day, like
it seems like society has pretty much moved to like
a two party system now, like either you're a Halloween
person or you're a Christmas person. There's like no other options.
So we're Halloween people in this house, and it sounds
like you are too. So it's never too early to
start throwing up those Halloween decorations.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'm a little bit of both. I mean, I also
like the creepier aspects of Christmas because I mean one
of my favorite Christmas stories is a Christmas Carol, So
I mean I definitely get into the paranormal, creepy side
of Christmas. I mean, and crampis there's a lot that
goes with both. To be honest with you, I mean
I kind of do both personally, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
So you're right down the middle of the aisle. Then nonpartisan,
nonpartisan like most things.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
But getting into today's conversation and all the weird stuff
we're going to get into today first and foremost. I mean,
I'm sure everybody has heard of the whole idea of
poisoned Halloween candy, and everybody probably is curious where the
whole concept comes from, because I mean, it's kind of
become this thing of urban legend, as it seems. But
I don't know about you, Warren, but have you ever

(03:08):
come across any poisoned candy personally?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Not that I'm aware of, a kick, so it must
have been some good poison.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean, you know, different kind of poison if you
get what I'm saying, or.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I've built up a tolerance one of the two.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Hey, isn't that what all the ancient royalty did for centuries?
You have a little tiny hair of the dog, a
little tiny bit of poison, and you think that it
makes it so that you're resilient to everything. Isn't that
how it works?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah? Yeah, that's why I'm still alive and kicking.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Well, getting into the origin of where the whole idea
about poison halloween candy came from. And we can go
about this one of two wists. I'll let you throw
in an option here. Either one we can watch a
local news story about it, or we can just read
through the article. Whatever you think would be a better.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
That's up to you. We can just read through the
article if you want to.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Totally up to you, man, I, Like I said, I
have a local news story too. Whichever whichever way you
want to spin it, just got to get rid of
this article in the process something. Man, Well, I guess
we'll start off with the news clip and if it
ends up becoming too reminiscent, then you know, we'll hop
into the reading the article. But we'll start off with
this as soon as I can get this stupid little
ad to pop away.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Still haunts the Houston area.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Forty years later, and good evening friends.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I'm Dave Ward.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
And I'm Gina Gaston. He is being called the Candy Man,
a passaiting a father of two who passed out poison
candy to tricka treaters Halloween night, nineteen seventy four.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
The only victim killed in that crime was his eight
year old son.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Hi with assuse report of Poushia Loodia joins us live
from the infamous neighborhood where it all happened.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Poosia, David Gina.

Speaker 8 (04:42):
It's hard to imagine a more innocent and more trusting,
a more American tradition than trigger treating. And as you
can see, it's still going on right here in Pasadena,
but on this same street.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
If you walk just a.

Speaker 8 (04:53):
Few steps down, you'll find one of the most horrific,
one of the most gruesome Halloween horror story ever recorded.

Speaker 9 (05:02):
It was kind of a cold and kind of a misty,
damp night.

Speaker 10 (05:07):
It was forty years ago, tonight, a Halloween that changed everything.

Speaker 9 (05:12):
Since it had been raining, mister O'Brien had raincoat on,
and unbeknownst to his friends who he was with, he
had the pixie sticks shoved up the sleeve of his raincoat.

Speaker 10 (05:25):
Ronald O'Brien gave pixie sticks to five children, including two
of his own. His eight year old son Timothy, asked
for one first.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
He said.

Speaker 9 (05:34):
The boy responded at the age some of it, that
it was very bitter and it didn't taste right.

Speaker 10 (05:41):
An hour later, Timothy was dead. The pixie sticks were
found to be filled with cyanide.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
O'Brien claimed to be shocked.

Speaker 9 (05:49):
He gave a eulogy in church that Sunday night that
had the whole congregation crime.

Speaker 10 (05:56):
Parents across the country vowed to never celebrate Halloween again.
This hole wro Obrian claimed to get the pixie sticks
was shrouded in.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
Suspicion someone take it upon themselves to take the trust
and the fund away from a lot of parents and
a lot of children.

Speaker 10 (06:13):
Then police learned O'Brien had just taken out life insurance
policies for his children.

Speaker 9 (06:18):
Coughin an adding machine tape. Okay, it had all his
bills written out next to the numbers on I had
a machine tape. He had added them all up and
it came to almost the exact amount of what he
stood to collect.

Speaker 10 (06:35):
A jury took less than an hour to convict O'Brien
an hour and five minutes to sentence him to death.

Speaker 9 (06:41):
He was just very cold and calculating, okay, and he
saw a means to an end to get out of debt.
And it's as simple as.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
That, Holloo is never going to be the same.

Speaker 9 (06:53):
Never will be the same, not like it was before
this happened.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's scary, Yeah, definitely scared. I mean, this was the
origin of where the whole urban legend of haunted how
of poisoned Halloween candy came from, And if I am
not mistaken, I'm pretty sure that there hasn't really been
any other reported cases since then. So the entire thing
started with a dad who tried to poison his own
kid to collect an insurance policy on him and ended

(07:20):
up getting caught instantly. Because obviously, if all the numbers
add up in the insurance policy that you take out
is exactly the number that you have in debt, you
know it's not gonna work out very well for yeh. So, well,
what's your thoughts on this one?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Man?

Speaker 3 (07:31):
First off, I never knew what like the impetus of
you know, the whole poison Halloween candy thing. Was this
is pretty crazy. I think this should be like a
more commonly known story, like how do we not have
like a movie or like a Netflix series or something
about this. It seems like it would be perfect for
something like that.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
But they call him the candy man. Talk about loosely based.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
But yeah, what a fucking sociopath man, Like, yeah, you
might be in debt, but to like literally kill your
kid to try to get out of debt, that seems
pretty fucking wild to me. So yeah, oh, whatever this
guy got, he had it coming to him, and yeah,
just crazy story. And uh, you taught me something today.
So one question I did have though, So you you know,

(08:17):
you hear about the uh poison candy and then there's
also like razor blades in the candy and shit like that.
Do you have any idea where that came from?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Probably honestly from the same thing, because I mean, like
we talk about all the time on the Regular Show,
you know a lot of these urban legends all start
with one little speck of truth and then they just
stretch out from there. So of course, you know, people
getting too razor blades, which almost seemed like they'd be
less bad than sinide because you know, sinide is like undetectable,
especially when you put it in the picture sties like
this guy tried for lie, but like, honestly, I think

(08:46):
it's one of those things that just continuously spread from
there and kind of became a wives tale because of
course you have to be cautionary of it. But ironic
that it doesn't even come from some stranger the calls
coming from inside the house. It came from this kid's
own dad. And yeah, just to add on to the story,
because they didn't mention it in this article, but his
own kids were the only ones that were affected by it. Obviously,
his son died and his daughter ended up getting ill,

(09:09):
but she'd end up dying from it because she had
a little bit more of the pixie stick. But there
was three other kids that also received these pixie sticks,
and if I'm not mistaken, two of them had the
thing where, oh, I'm gonna eat it tomorrow and they
didn't get to it, and the other one actually got
to a point where he started chewing it open and
his parents stopped him and said no more candy tonight.
So if they didn't stop the kid and say no
more candy tonight, there may have been well maybe a

(09:32):
second slash third person that would have been affected by this.
But luckily, at least there was only one fatal death.
Not that that's a happy thing, but luckily this at
least the sister survived.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
The crazy thing about that is, you know, you would
think if you were going to go to the links
of killing your own fucking kid, I mean, why not
kill a few more at that point, just make it
look not quite so suspicious, Like if like ten kids
had have died, they probably wouldn't have pegged it on
this guy so quickly. So, I mean, it seems like
he didn't think this hair brain scheme through really good,

(10:02):
but he tried.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
He tried to get three more. It just didn't work
because the kids were smart enough to not eat the
Halloween candy that night.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Man, those are rookie numbers. He must have not had
very much cyanide.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So apparently, don't look out for strangers. But if your
parents seem like they have some type of residual hate
for you, then you know, maybe check your pixie sticks.
Make sure they don't taste a little bit extra bitter,
a little extra weird.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
If mommy and daddy are fighting about money, don't eat
pixie sticks.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I think it might be a good moral of the story.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I'm glad we've got that established.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, now that we've put some some folklore slash urban
legends aside and finally got to the speck of truth
within it, I think that the next thing we should
hop into is what you have for today. So, without
further ado, hold on tight, guys, Bizarre increase. We'll be
right back after this brief commercial break.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
And hour're back.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Why don't you let the listeners know we're getting into
today on your end, sir?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Alrighty, So the article I brought for us to talk
about today comes via screen Rant and it is titled
quote ten Theories about the Shining that I'm obsessed with,
even forty five years after Stanley Kubrick's movie released, and
The Shining is quite possibly my favorite movie period, not
just my favorite like scoopy horror Halloween movie. So I

(11:24):
definitely wanted to talk about something Shining related, and if
I can roll in conspiracies with it, even better. So
if you already, I will go ahead and get rolling
with this.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one. I mean, at
least for the Shining. It's one of those movies that's
so multi layered, because one you got the Stephen King
aspect and then you also have the whole Stanley Kuprick
aspect of it. So I'm sure you'll get into it
with some of these theories. But there's a lot, a
lot of layers to that film, simply just off the
fact that Stanley Kubrick was the one that produced it.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, and we're gonna have a whole lot of kind
of jumping off points to talk about with this one.
So all right, starting off Stanley Kubrick's cryptic not crypt
did cryptic horror classic, The Shining is wide open to interpretation,
and that ambiguity has led to the development of countless
fan theories about its deeper meanings. All of Kubrick's movies

(12:14):
have ambiguous elements. He didn't want you to understand his
films at face value. Is Alex still large really cured?
At the end of a Clockwork Orange? Is the Star
Child going to enlighten Earth? Or destroy it? At the
end of two thousand and one A Space Odyssey? But
no Kubrick movie was more ambiguous than The Shining. It's
one hundred and forty four minutes of unanswerable questions and

(12:36):
indecipherable riddles. There are so many fan theories about The
Shining that there's an entire feature length documentary about them
released in twenty twelve. Room two three seven analyzes every
second of The Shining to uncover every hidden detail included
in its run time. And if you guys are interested
in this sort of thing, or like The Shining at all,

(12:56):
I would highly recommend that documentary its batshit crew in
the best possible way, and I might actually like it
more than The Shining at this point, So if you
guys have not seen it, definitely check it out, all right.
So moving on, My personal interpretation of the film as
a whole is that it's about alcoholism. The fact that
the first ghost Jack sees is a bartender who gives

(13:19):
him a full bottle of whiskey on the house seems
to confirm that. But there are dozens of other theories interpreting,
excuse me, the movie in different ways, and I can't
get enough of them. So I think this guy is
dead ass wrong. I think there's so much more to
the movie than just alcoholism, Like that's definitely in there,
but I mean that's like twentieth on the list.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Just to give a shout out to another really good
researcher and podcaster. I don't know if this was his
documentary that was mentioned above, but have you ever heard
of a guy named Ryder Lee, because he recently did
a documentary breaking this down into some deeply conspiratorial aspects.
And yeah, I don't know if it makes reference to
it in this article, but maybe I can touch base
on a little bit at the end for at least
some of the aspects I remember from him explaining on

(14:02):
the show.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, I don't think it talks about this and him
in this article, and I'm not sure that I'm familiar
with his work either. So if there's anything you want
to throw in here as we're going through, feel free.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Actually it's called a Clockwork Shining. To throw that in there,
this was the documentary that he worked on. I'll bring
it up on screen for just two seconds before I
bring back up the article. If anybody wants another very
very interesting documentary about shining conspiracies, this one right here
at Clockwork Shining, done by Rider Lee, who is a
fellow podcaster. It's a pretty good documentary, and like I said,

(14:36):
I'll make some reference to the theories on it as
we get a little bit closer into this, but bringing
back up to your article.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Sir, all right, So starting off with number ten, it
was all a dream. Much like David Lynch's own psychological thrillers,
the Shining follows a dream logic. Just like a dream,
it doesn't totally make sense, and there are a few
different ways to interpret what it means. The most literal
interpretation would be that the movie is in fact a
dream it was all a dream as a cop out

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explanation for mystery storytelling. But The Shining actually includes a
scene in which Jack wakes up from a terrifying nightmare
in which Danny was hurt, only to find that Danny
is indeed hurt. Maybe he's still stuck in this bad dream.
So to me, this one's not all that interesting. I
don't have a whole lot to add about the whole
it was all a dream scenario. Do you have anything

(15:24):
you want to add on this one?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think that this is probably one of the conspiracy
theories with the least likeliness to it because it just
seems like a very simple answer to it. And I
don't think that Stanley Couprick would make something that simple
because there was a hole back and forth with him
and Stephen King, because Stephen King was like, all right,
this is my story, this is my thing, and Stanley
Kuprick was like, no, this is my movie. This is

(15:46):
how I'm going to do it. So there was this
back and forth where things didn't stay exactly the same
as the book because Stanley Couprick had his own thing
going on. So considering that, I don't think that Stanle
Kuprick would have made his message that simple because how
many times have people seen two thousand and one Space
Odyssey and still don't understand it. I mean, it's still
one of those endings that is up for interpretation anyways,
same with clapperk Cornch.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
No, I'm with you one hundred percent, But the next
one we're going to get into. There's a lot more
to unpack.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh, this is one of the fun ones, this one. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
So number nine Danny's Apollo eleven sweater is Kubrick's confession
that he faked the moon landing during one of several
sequences in which Danny is seen playing with his toys
in the halls of the Overlook hotel. He's wearing a
sweater bearing an image of the Apollo eleven shuttle. Some
theorists believe that this sly bit of costuming is Kubrick's

(16:36):
subtle confession that he helped to fake the moon landing.
Kubrick changed Room two seventeen from the book to room
two thirty seven, seemingly for no reason, perhaps coincidentally, the
distance from the Earth to the Moon is around two
hundred and thirty seven one hundred excuse me, two hundred
and thirty seven thousand miles. That got me caught up

(17:00):
for summer reason.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I was gonna hop in and help you for a
second there, But.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
This is a fascinating theory to ponder. Yep, got tongue
tied on that one. But anyway, what you got on
this one?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I mean, I put a lot of stock behind this one.
But this also goes into the multiple layers that I
don't think that this was Stanley Kubrick's soul message, but
I definitely think that it was piece of the puzzle
that he was trying to interpret because regardless of again
I've said this a million times on the show, what
you believe about the moon landing, whether we went there,
whether we didn't go there, I still think that regardless,
the government would have had fake footage to make it

(17:33):
look like we made it there because we were in
a space race with Russia and we couldn't let Russia
win that race. So regardless, I think that there was
fake footage manufactured, and the debate is whether or not
it was used. But that fake footage one hundred percent,
I think with san Ley Kubrick did, considering that he
did two thousand and one a Space Odyssey I think
right before that, which kind of led into the interpretation
that he'd be able to do it. So I think

(17:55):
that again he filmed footage. Regardless of what you see,
there was fake footage that was and I think that
he definitely filmed it. So this is just piece of
the multiple layers that are in the shining.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah. And like you said, he did two thousand and
one in Space Odyssey not long before the whole moonlanding thing.
A lot of people have speculated that that was like
his way of quote unquote practicing for the moon landing
hoax footage.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
What those shots are phenomenal even now, like that movie
is yeah crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, So the only rebuttal that I'll have to add
is a lot of that moonlanding footage looks like shit.
If Stanley Kubrick did it, it probably would look a lot better.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's easier to make it more believable, though, if it's
more grainy. That's the thing that's true. But something I
did want to kind of touch on here. It says
in the article Kubrick changed room two seventeen from the
book to room two thirty seven, seemingly for no reason.
I don't know this for a fact, but I've heard
in you know, some other videos and articles and whatnot

(18:54):
about the Shining that I've read and watched and whatnot,
that they changed that because the hotel where they actually
filmed the movie at did not have a room two
three seven, so they didn't want people like requesting that room,
and they did have a room two seventeen, so they
did that to avoid people like wanting to stay in

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that particular room.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Whether that's true or not, I don't know, but.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Just something I've come across, and just to throw in
another layer with the whole Stanley Kubrick thing. Obviously, the
outside of the film was shot at the Sanley Hotel.
That was kind of the whole interest. That was the
whole thing that inspired it. But he purposely chose a
hotel for the difference of the inside, because of the carpet,
and because the way it was set up. But again,
I'll get into that a little bit farther in, because
if it doesn't throw this theory in, I'm gonna make

(19:40):
sure that I throw it in towards the end. But
just keep in mind that he purposely would have chose
this hotel for that carpet pattern.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
All right, So we're gonna move on to another fun
one number eight. The Shining is secretly about CIA mind
control experiments.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Which this is already leading into what I was gonna say.
So they purposely picked that carpet because it leads in
with the MK ultra mind control concept.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
So the article says, apart from the general bizarreness, look
at their bizarrees. There's not much evidence to support this theory,
but it's become a popular reading of the Shining. Nonetheless,
when Danny first sees the Grady Twins, there's a skiing
poster that reads Monarch. This piece of set decoration stands
out because Olman said that there is no skiing in

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the area. A theory claims that Monarch was the code
name for the CIA's notorious mk Ultra mind control experiments,
which we talk about all the time on the show.
Based on this, the mind bending madness of the Shining
is believed to be an extravagant cinematic portrayal of shady
CIA mind control.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
And this is partially what he ends up dissecting in
that movie that I was mentioning Clockwork Shining, and it
gets into it a lot heavier on multiple layers talking
about this whole idea of him like walking rooms and
then doors disappearing and seemly coup was very particular about
making sure that his scenes lined up, so he would
have done that purposefully.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Like it's a lot of stuff with like the furniture too,
like in shots that cut back and forth, like a
chair will be in the corner and then when like
they cut back, it's gone, And same thing people say,
like Cooper wouldn't have made those type of mistakes. It's
obviously there for a reason.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
And just to extend onto that even more for anybody
that doesn't think there's validity to this, think about his
range of movies that he's created. You have Doctor Goodlove.
Is that the one I'm thinking where it's already talking
about mind control. And then you got going in farther,
you got a clockwork Orange Strangelove you mean, yeah, doctor Strangelove.
There it is, sorry brain farton on it. And then
you got a clockwork orange, which obviously the whole concept

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of that is about MK ultra mind control taking a
criminal and turning him into basically this citizen they can't
do anything bad. Then you got even Eyes Wide Shut,
which there's the whole conspiracy about that. That that was
around the same time that Stanley Cooper died. And for
anybody that you know, kind of followed his films, they
know that he he purposely takes these points where he
does these long monologues, and anybody that's watched Eyes Wide

(22:05):
Shut knows that these long monologues were basically just completely
taken out. And a couple weeks before Stanley Kubrick died,
there was a filming of his movie and he was
seen coming out of the theater screaming and ranting about
they edited my movie, they did stuff to my movie,
they took pieces out of my movie, and he was
flipping out. A couple weeks or a couple week or
two later is when he ended up passing away and

(22:25):
then Steven Spielberg ended up taking over that film and
all of those parts were purposely missing. So Stanley Kubrick
was definitely tied in with all of this stuff down
to the point where he was connected in with the government.
He was doing projects with the government, So why would
it be any different with the shining, especially considering that
he had so many arguments back and forth with Stephen
King because he was clearly doing his own thing and.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
The whole eyes wide shut angle. I want to talk
about that again here in a couple of entries in
this article, So I'm glad you brought that up now.
But anyway, I think those are all great points. I
think it also kind of gets back a little bit
to your human experiment theory, and you know, like what
is the government doing? And you know, could Jack have

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been one of the victims of one of these kind
of like extraterrestrial or high strangeness type experiments that you
like to talk about on the show.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Or I mean even other stuff I talk about on
the show. Basically taking this one little component of somebody's
personality and then using that as a token to be
able to basically manipulate their whole mind. It seems like
also it kind of fits into the facade of that too,
that they take his little bit of alcoholism and they
basically use it to spin him completely around to the
point where he's willing to kill his family. And that
seems to be something with these activated agents that are

(23:42):
connection with the thechay Ultro and everything. So again, like,
maybe it's just because I'm.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
A conspiratorial events or anything.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
But yeah, now maybe I'm just more conspiratorial, But maybe
it's also just because I'm a big fan of san
Ley Kubrick's movies. But this is the one that I
put the most folidity behind as far as conspiracies go.
But again, talking about I think that he didn't just
have one message. He had multiple messages he was trying
to do within one movie.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yep, more than one thing can be true at the
same time.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
All right, y'all, time for another commercial break.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
And now back to letting your mind wonder.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
All right, So the next couple I don't think are
that interesting, So I'm gonna kind of rush through those
a little quicker. Number seven, The Twins aren't Grady's daughters.
When Jack interviews for his job at the Overlook, he's
told the previous caretaker Grady murdered his two young daughters.
So when Danny sees two creepy twin girls staring back
at him in the hotel hallway, followed by a quick

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cut to their blood drenched corpses, it's easy to assume
they're Grady's daughters. But Jack has told the girls were
quote about eight and ten, so they weren't twins. This
means that the girls Danny sees might not be Grady's
daughters after all. They could repers a memory from Wendy's childhood,
Danny's relationship with his imaginary friend Tony, or something else entirely. Again,

(25:07):
I don't think that one's all that interesting. I don't
really have anything to add on that one. If you don't, Shane,
we'll move on to the next.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, just throw something in connecting in with the whole
mk ultra concept and the twins. You start diving into
a lot of the mk ultra mind control concept, and
it talks about this idea about fracturing the mind, and
usually when it refers to adults, you end up splitting
the mind into two, and when you catch the kids
early and you start splitting their minds early, then they
end up fracturing into four points. So there's also an

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interpretation basically that these two girls are supposed to represent
the splitting of the mind, because it's supposed to represent
the same person as the two different split portions of
the mind. So the girls themselves fall in with the
whole mk ultra mind control concept of the movie to
begin with.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, no, that's a great point. I haven't really thought
about the twins in lieu of the whole mk ultra
angle on this, but I think that's definitely a good
reading of it. And I wouldn't put it past Kubrick
to have put that in there, because in the book,
Danny never actually sees the twins like they're mentioned. It's,
you know, the whole story is told like it is

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in the movie, but he never actually sees like the
ghosts or whatnot of the twins. So that was a
conscious decision on Kubrick's part to visually include them in
the movie.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Like I said, to try to show maybe even like
the whole fracturing of the mind's concept. I mean, yeah,
even with the whole red rum thing. I mean, you
got red rum, you got murdered. I know that's part
of the book, but I feel like part of the
reason why Stanley Kubrick also tries to use that so
frequently is because it also kind of shows the split
mind concept of reading two things and interpreting things in
two different ways.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
So I just thought about something as far as the
whole like mk ultra sleeper agent aspect of this. So
red Room. You know, everybody knows murder backwards, but in
the new, well relatively new Black Widow movie in the
Marvel Cinematic universe, which everybody says is kind of used

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for disclosure. So where the Black Widows are trained to
be fucking assassins is called the Red Room, and you
know that could just be a whole nother layer of
this whole. Hey, are these people being trained for some
nefarious purpose and experimented on by some government agent?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Angle and again continuing on, everybody always has I have
to point out the fact that he did Eyes Wide
shutt and that was his last film before he passed away.
I mean that definitely gets into that whole concept too,
So just pointing that out, just laying that down there
I think he was one of those people that he
got in bed with them, started working with him, started
regretting his actions, so then he started kind of trying
to out him in his own intelligent way. Because I

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don't know how much validity to it there is to it.
I think it might be partially like an urban legend.
But a lot have said that Stanley Kubrick's IQ was
ridiculously high, and the guy was considered a super genius.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, he was like a chess master too, if I'm
not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
So I think he was one of those people that
at the time was thinking three moves ahead of the government,
which is why he was able to do some of
this stuff. And then they finally caught up with him
again for Iedwi shut.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Forty years later or whatever, or.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
It was just a matter of they made that move
of basically saying sit down and shut up, and he
decided to go outside and start ranting. So they had
to take evase of maneuvers.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
All right, So we're gonna move on to number six. Now,
Windy is hallucinating the whole thing. In the early scenes
of The Shining, Wendy is shown to be deeply distressed
about her violent husband and unsure of whether or not
this job at the Overlook will be good for the family.
There's a common theory that Wendy hallucinates the events of
the Shining. It could be a projection of Wendy's fears

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about the job. She's terrified that the isolation will drive
Jack back to the bottle and back to violence, so
she imagines the worst case scenario of a murderous relapse.
This would explain why Wendy is so cartoonishly mistreated throughout
the film. This one, I don't think is all that
interesting either. I think this is kind of right up
there with that it was all a dream theory, So

(28:56):
I don't have a whole lot to add to this
one either.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Just to throw in some interesting and information about the film,
did you hear about the whole way that she was
like treated all through filming?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, basically like Kubrick was horrible to her.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, absolutely horrible to her, like treat her like shit,
Like he purposely like picked her even though she wasn't
the best actor too. So again I think it was
one of those moves that he purposely did. And continuing
out the mk ultrre mind control stuff, I mean definitely
seems like maybe he purposely picked her to fuck with
her head to try to show an interpretation of that
happening as the movie's happening. I mean, definitely possible too.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, for sure. So this next one, I think is
a really interesting theory and is going to touch on
some stuff we've already talked about. Number five, The Shining
is all about sexual abuse. Jack admits to hitting Danny,
but his abuse could be much darker than that. The
deep psychological terror of The Shining could be a cinematic

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representation of Danny's trauma from being sexually abused. The film
reflects a child's idea of sexuality. Jack is kissed by
a neck woman. It's full of sexual images, like Jack
reading Playgirl before his interview, or a man in a
Teddy Bear costume performing a sex act. Room two three
seven could be where the assault occurred, or it could

(30:12):
represent the part of Danny's mind where he repressed the trauma.
So I can't remember what documentary or video that I've
watched that they talk about it, But they also people
have mentioned, you know, Danny's whole thing about Tony.

Speaker 11 (30:29):
His like.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Mysterious friend, like the book goes into more detail about
what Tony actually is. But anyway Tony refers to or
Danny excuse me, refers to Tony as the little boy
that lives in my mouth. And I've you know, heard
people say that there could be like a sexual connotation
on that too. And then again the whole Kubrick angle

(30:54):
he directed Eyes Wide Shut, which is about like you know,
sex cults and the elite and things like that. So
it's not much of a stretch to go from child
abuse themes to some of the later work that he did.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
And I mean that's part of the whole mind splitting concept,
like I was kind of mentioning, and this sexual aspect
is part of that mind fracturing and mind splitting, so
that kind of goes hand in hand. And just to
throw in some more about that wonderful documentary I was mentioning,
he actually goes through and shows all the different like
subconscious like fallus images. Like there's one where he goes
into the interview at like in the very beginning of

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the movie and there's something sitting on the desk that
when the guy comes up and he has like his
hands back, it basically looks like it's in the place
of having like a giant phallus going towards jack.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I heard like the Apollo eleven on Danny Sweater could
be like a phallus pointing up towards his mouth, if
you want to take that interpretation of it.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, and then I mean, if you get into that
whole aspect of things, when they purposely show the girls
to him in this movie, it could purposely be showing
like the parts of the mind starting to fracture, Like
when he shows the girls, that's when his mind starting
to fracture into two. Because again, anybody that dives into
this multure for adults is a lot different than mk
ultra for kids mkulture for adults as a matter of
separating them emotionally, so they detach the kids, you separate

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into four using sexual abuse and all this other stuff,
so that basically instead of having this uh repressed Okay,
so you know how, they kind of like train an
adult where for like the military, for example, you have
like your normal personality and then you have this like
immoral personality that like completely shuts off that you can
do all this amral stuff and it doesn't connect in
with your other personality. You know what I'm kind of

(32:29):
referring to so with kids, they do this other aspect
where it fractures past that where basically they instead of
having this here's my moral personality, here's my shut off personality,
they have this dark side of their personality, and then
they have like a light side of their personality that
they can snap back and forth with, but they're dark
side of their personality they don't actually like turn off

(32:50):
like their moral compass. They basically will fracture into like
this complete other mind of just like a dark psychotic individual.
So it is a really really deep come flex concept.
But again it could possibly even be showing the fracturing
of that, because that is part of what the sexual
abuse is intended to, is making it so that you
don't feel any like connection or love or sympathy or

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anything for anybody else, and sexual abuse is a huge
aspect of doing that.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Well.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, and like you said, I mean if Kubrick was
kind of no pun intended in bed with you know,
these elites and these powerful systems back in the day,
and was kind of using his films as a way
to pull back that curtain, I mean, it would have
just stood to reason that he kind of knew about
some of these sexual abuse things and some of the

(33:38):
more ritualistic aspects of like eyes Wide Shut. So I mean,
I think that all makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
And I mean even connecting in on another layer two.
I know we're kind of talking about this separation between
Stephen King and Stanley Kubrick, but Stanley or Stephen King
still has a lot of his weird links to the occult,
and supposedly he's one of the people that's not necessarily
on the good side of all the occult stuff from
a lot of the whispers, I thought, a weird child.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Sexual stuff in Stephen king books, like mostly in it
where they have like the teenage org and the Sewers.
So yeah, a lot to unpack there too.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yep, stand by me. I mean almost anything that Semen
King writes. There's a lot of sexual induendo involving kids.
So I mean, just putting that out there, all right.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
So we're gonna move on to the next one. And
I think this is kind of an interesting theory as well.
Number four. Theseus and the Minotaur the Shining is believed
to be a spooky reimagining of the classic Greek myth
of Theseus and the Minotaur, in which Danny is Theseus
the hero and Jack is the Menotaur, the monster that
comes after him. Where the minotaur chase Theseus through a labyrinth,

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Jack chases Danny through a hedge maze. Jack, so called Kubrick,
stare with his head tilted ford and his eyes staring
Daggers is similar to the look of a bull that's
about to charge. He even does this look while ominously
gazing over a scale model of the hedge mads, so
just right off the rip. It's interesting to note that

(35:07):
the hedge maze is not in the book. That's something
that Kubrick added as well. In the book, they're like,
I don't remember the word for it, but it's like
bushes that have been you know, kind of cut and
shaped like animal and things of that nature. I've heard
people say they changed it to the hedge maze because,

(35:28):
you know, movie special effects technology was not advanced enough
that they could do that at the time. But you know,
this could be another Kubrick thing. But something else I
wanted to point out is we've seen a lot of
connections with minotaurs with a lot of like high strangeness activity,
and it seems like they're a lot of times associated

(35:49):
with almost like incubus late night visitation, like kind of
assaulting women in their sleep, in their bedrooms type thing.
So I thought that was kind of an interesting theory,
especially in light of the whole sexual abuse angle.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I mean, I feel like we're just adding more and
more layers of this movie, which is kind of what
I was hoping what we would do. But again, I
feel like the whole core of the movie is basically
supposed to be talking about mind control.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, I mean, excuse me. It seems like the more
we get into this, it kind of keeps coming back
to that being the core theme. And like we said,
Kuperck's probably touching on all of these things on this
list in some way, but I think the whole mind
control thing and the sexual abuse aspect are the two
that really stick out to me the most. Oh yeah one,

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all right, So we're gonna move on to the next one,
and this is probably one that you'll enjoy. Number three.
The Horrors of the Overlook represent the horrors inflicted upon
Native Americans. When Ulman interviews Jack, he tells him that
the Overlook was built on a Native American burial ground.
This was a common trope in eighties horror movies, also
seen in Poultergeist and pet Cemetery. Pet Cemeteries and other

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Stephen King adaptation.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Used real bodies at the end, just to throw that
one in there, because that's always an interesting fun fact
to throw in. And they didn't tell the actors until
they were already in a pit with dead bodies.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Well, that makes it extra scary. Representing America's guilt over
the shameful misdeeds of its past, The Shining also features
plenty of art orc featuring Native Americans and the American West,
and Jack makes a reference to the white Man's Burden
from RUDYERD. Kipling's poem about the imperialists. The horror story
has been read as a metaphor for America's past coming

(37:36):
back to haunt it. I'm sure you got something you
want to add for this one.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I mean, I feel like this one maybe would be
something more on Stephen King's side than Stanley Kubrick's side personally, Like,
I feel like maybe in the original story that may
have been an interpretation, but I don't think that would
have been one of Stanley Kubrick's like boxes he was
going to check for the movie personally.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, I mean, and like it says in the article here,
like Native American burial grounds, that's just like a fertile soil,
no pun intended for horror. And but you know, the
funny thing about it is we like legitimately talk about
things involving Native American burial grounds and disturbing the earth
with a lot of things on this show, especially like
cryptid encounters, So that kind of becomes a chicken and

(38:17):
egg situation. I mean, is all this stuff in horror
because there's legitimacy to it or are people just kind
of you know, hopping on that bandwagon because they've seen
it in horror movies so many times at this point.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I mean, I feel like the whole disturbing burial grounds
thing was something that came before movies, and then it
just became like a trope through movies, you know what
I mean, Like it was always the thing that people
had in the back of their mind that you don't
disturb something's eternal resting place, but the movies just made
it spoofy, and then the eighties just put it as
every single movie just have a blake statement on why
a place is haunted because you just say Native American

(38:50):
burial ground in a movie and then you don't need
any more explanation past that. That's just boom, that's it. Boom.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Like like you said, I feel like human beings have
always had, you know, the where with all you don't
disrupt the dead and places of burial and things like that.
But I think the whole Native American burial ground thing
has probably largely been exacerbated by you know, popular movies
and media and things like that, even though, like I said,

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we do talk about it a lot on the show,
so that's kind of an interesting thing to think about
in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, like I said, I think it's more of like
Stephen King's trope because he does talk about that frequently
through a lot of his books. I don't think it
was something Stanley Kubrick was trying to portray in the movie,
because Stephen King had little to no say in the movie,
and you know, Stanley Kubrick made that very clear. But
I definitely think it was a theme that that Stephen
King was definitely trying to hit for the movie, so
multiple layers. I don't maybe it translated into the movie

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because of Stephen King's intention of putting it in the
original book.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, I think that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Hold on site, guys, bizarre increase. We'll be right back
after this brief commercial break.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
And now we're back, all right, So we're going to
move on to the next one. We only got a
couple more entries here. Number two. The horrors of the
overlook represent the horrors of the Holocaust. Alternatively, the shining
could be an allegory for a different shameful chapter in

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history the Holocaust. Jack wears a T shirt bearing the
Nazi symbol of an eagle, while the German made model
of his typewriter Adler translates to eagle. The soundtrack includes
a few unsettling post war compositions inspired by the Holocaust.
The number forty two appears all over the movie. There
are forty two cars in the parking lot, the Summer

(40:40):
of forty two plays on TV, and two, three and
seven from room two three seven, all multiplied to make
forty two, which could be referring to nineteen forty two,
the year the Nazis started the final solution, This one,
I think is a bit of a stretch. I don't
see as many kind of rock solid connections on this
one as some of the other ones. What are your

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thoughts on this theory?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
See, I feel like this one and the Native American one,
depending on how you interpret it, can kind of be
reflected in two different ways, you know what I mean, Like,
I feel like you kind of had these themes and
you can kind of see how they could potentially fit
any group that might fall into that category, you know
what I mean, like any repressed and.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Why I put a little bit more stock in the
Native American theory, like you said, just the whole like
recurring motif of Native American burial grounds in Stephen King's work,
and also just the blatant Native American imagery that's throughout
the movie. I mean, the German brand typewriter and he's
got an eagle on his shirt seems like a bit

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of a stretch to me on this one, but that's
just my opinion.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
I'm pretty sure Adler is probably one of the most
popular brands of typewriter too, So yeah, I mean, I'm
sure that was just like a I don't I hate
seeing coincidence, but you know, coincidence.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is probably fairly far
down the list of theories that I think are most likely,
But this last one I like a lot too. So
unless you got anything else, we are going to hit
number one.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Well, just to throw this in here, Apparently back from
like nineteen forty two to nineteen sixty something, Adler was
considered to be one of the most popular typewriter brands. So,
like I said, just popular brand that appears in a movie.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yep, so even more fuel to the It probably ain't
that talking about the Holocaust theory. Fire there all right?
So number one, The Overlook is Hell. One of the
most popular fan theories about the Shining, and one that
I'm inclined to agree with, is that the Overlook represents Hell.
It's a hellish place where blood gushes out of the elevator,

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ghosts have sex with each other, and the Torrentsas are
seemingly trapped here for all eternity, being punished to no end.
The comparisons between the Overlook and Hell is clearer in
Stephen King's original novel. At the end of the book,
a hotel explodes into spectacular ball of fire. First off,
I will say I think the ending of the book

(43:05):
is better than the ending of the movie. I understand
just on like a filmmaking level, why they probably couldn't,
you know, stage this huge explosion, But it is much
more dramatic in the book than it is in the movie,
I feel like. But the thing I like about this
theory is the picture they chose of Jack to include

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here in the article.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Looking like the Joker.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Well, because look at what his hands are doing. Does
that seem reminiscent of anything that we've talked about on
the show.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
To you Bahamet maybe exactly talking about the upside down?

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, I would want to maybe pull up a picture
of Bapphamet or the Tarot card the Devil for our
viewers here, it's pretty uncanny how Jack is doing like
the Bapphamet hands sign placement whatever here, And that gets
back to yep, there you go. And so for our

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listeners who did not listen to our Freemason series that
we did, Bapphamet is this kind of demonic god deity
thing that the Freemasons or excuse me, the Night Templar,
who were kind of the group that the Freemasons came
out of, were accused of worshiping. So again a lot

(44:26):
to unpack here gets back to ideas of elites and
what all they could be up to. But this you know,
positioning of Jack in this Baphomet pose, that's kind of
a smoking gun to me. There's no other way to
interpret that in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, especially because it's that still shot and again going
into eyes wide shut, all the other stuff that he
was connected into. And again even the whole health theory
kind of still links back into this whole MK ultra
thing because obviously all of that is basically a healthscape,
the way that they abuse people, all the satanic abuse.
I mean, it all ends up coming back down to
the same thing. It's all part of these MK ultra

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mind control experiments, this advanced psychology and philosophy that you
mix together to basically mind wash and control people. Like,
it's all part of the same thing. And I mean,
I'm still partially convinced that a lot of these like
occult practices such as the baf met hands all this
stuff it doesn't actually represent anything real but mainly just symbology.

(45:26):
For I guess you could say, like like like philosophical
and and like psychology concepts. I guess you could say, like,
I don't I don't think that there's like literally like
a Baphomet. I think that it's mainly it was supposed
to be symbolic of something like a lot of the
occult stuff isn't literal. It's symbolic of stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah, And like going back to this theory, I don't
think necessarily the overlook it's supposed to be like a
literal interpretation of Hell. But like I said, this, this
Baphomet imagery is beyond question and I think, like you said,
it's more symbolic of thought processes and ideas that certain

(46:11):
people people in power might have, rather than a literal
depiction of, Oh, this is the devil and the hotel
is Hell. So again I think the literal isn't as
important as the symbolism and the imagery here see.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
And then the question kind of comes back to at
what point was Stanley Kubrick with his connection to the
US government when he made this movie. Was he intending
for this to be a film that releases information or
was he intending for this to be a film that
might possibly provoke and kind of kick people into it?
Like could it have been an mk ultra film to

(46:47):
begin with? That the reason all the symbology is in
it again isn't to bring light to it, but rather
to see who's gonna fall into it, because I mean,
I feel like there would have been periods for Stanley
Kubrick where he may have been working for and against
But yeah, and this is, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Much earlier in his career than Eyes Wide Shut. So
to me, it just stands to reason that he could
have had very different motivations when he made the Shining
than when he made Eyes Wide Shut toward the end
of his life. So yeah, a lot to unpack here. Sorry,
we went a little long on that article, but you know,
you just can't stop once you start theorizing and thoughting

(47:23):
about the Shining. So that was a fun one to me.
I hope you enjoyed it as well.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I'm always happy to talk about conspiracies, and Stanley Cooper
kind of links into every other conspiracy. So it all
kind of works out in a weird way, and it's
perfect for Halloween exactly. So we got real world monsters,
we got movie monsters, so now we got to move
into our realm of monsters. Are you ready for this one?

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Or all right?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Off, time for another commercial break.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
And now back to letting your mind wonder I'm ready,
all right, So this one is going to be a
bit of a series, and it's going to get to
this final point where it's something that a lot of
people have been talking about. But I think that we
have a lot of good opinions to possibly throw in
on it. But the root of what this segment is
going to be is paranormal police calls. So I'll originally

(48:11):
start with this paranormal call made into a police station,
and then we'll kind of move down the list here
and we'll play a game as we go through this.
Do you think that it's valid, do you think that
it's real? And what do you think it'd possibly be?
And we'll play this game as we move along the line.
But here we'll start up this first video sounds.

Speaker 12 (48:29):
Good Unanswered questions After a nine to one to one
call in playblow from a funeral home and cemetery August eleventh,
just before three point thirty in the morning, the police
Department communications center got a call that they refer to
as abandoned, meaning the other person hung up, so they
called back, got an answer and heard mostly static.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Back, Hello, that's scary.

Speaker 12 (49:04):
He was soon now to check out the funeral home
and cemetery and says it was locked up and dark
with no one in sight. You can hear the full
nine one one call in the CBS Denver article met
Yours covering Colorado.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
First, So this first one, what do you think? Do
you think it's legit? Do you think that it may
have been some type of glitch or something in the system,
Like what what do you think for this one?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
This one strikes me as it could be just some
very real world explanation for it.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
This was seven years ago, just so you have an
idea of phone lines at the time this year.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
So I mean, it could be valid, it could be real.
The thing that's kind of interesting to me about it
is if this happened at like a cemetery or whatever.
That gets back to ideas of like spirit boxes and
communing with the dead and things of that nature. But
right off the rip, I don't think I put a
whole lot of stock in this one. What about you?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I mean, it's a yes and a no one just
because there wasn't really anything recorded on the other side
of the line. I mean, it's strange that somebody answered
the phone and that there was this inaudible grunting noise.
I'm gonna chalk it up to one of two things.
Either one, there was somebody who was there, and they
just kind of answered the phone, set it down and
put it away, and then they left. And then the
cops showed up afterwards, and they kind of never put

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two and two together or two considering this was a
funeral home near a cemetery all that type of stuff.
I mean, maybe it was definitely a case of some
ghosties tampering with the lines.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Or it could have been some medaling kids.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Goes dang meddling kids, all right, So hopping into the
second one, And I know a lot of people have
heard portions of this call because it is used frequently
in a lot of different podcast theme songs, ours included,
and I'm sure that you guys will recognize the portion
of it, but I figured that we should do it
just not a lot of people have heard the full call,
because there's actually multiple calls with this one. So without

(50:57):
further ado, I'm gonna share you guys a sasquatch call,
one of the most legendary sasquatch calls of all times.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Now, what are your putting? I got a degree going
on here. Something just killed my dog. Something killed your dog?
My dog? What flying through there over the tree? I
don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, I'm really
confused now. All I felt my dog coming over the
pit and they would have did when he hit the ground,
A teeny car and all that thought my dog coming

(51:24):
over to pen.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
So that was the first call. And for anybody that
didn't catch that, this guy basically called and said, I
don't know what the hell just happened. My dog just
got thrown and it was dead when I hit the ground.
If you guys didn't catch that, And this guy's just
nonchalant about it, But I guess you know hunter types.
You know, the dog's a dog.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Hey, maybe he killed his own dog for insurance money.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
But he gave him some poisoned sanid sugar.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Sticks cyanide dog treats.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
So here's a call too.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
We got not one or nothing crawling around out here?
It was Was it a person or an animal or
I can't tell. All I know is that my central
light came on and I just happened to glimpse and
see this thing running across the yard, a good sized
man or something. It looks like a man. I don't
know what it was, just that it ran across the yard. Okay,

(52:15):
you've had problems in the neighborhood before. Yeah, my dog
was killed here just recently. I don't know what it was.
Whatever it is, it's running. I couldn't catch it if
I was going to chase it or whatever it was.
It was standing up. I'm out here looking through the
window now and I don't see anything. I don't want
to go outside. Jesus Christy, big care deal. Hello, get

(52:37):
somebody out here. I thought up a bit. Is about
six foot nine? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Oh, okay, hang on, he's right.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
Is he in your yard?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Sir?

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Yeah? Got he's big? Okay, what's he doing in your yarn?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
He's working it.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
On foot.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
I don't know what it's. It's a big, real big person.
Until I can think, I'm yeah, i'd say it with
a somebody really big here. But he's all black? Is
he a blackmail or a white molt? What is that?

Speaker 6 (53:20):
So?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
For anybody that hasn't heard the call, I'm sure you
caught our theme song in the middle of that.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
No, that's a pretty good one. I've never heard the
entire thing before. That's pretty funny. I think I put
more validity in this one, just because how like nonchalant
this guy is, Like if he was trying to, you know,
pull one over on somebody, you think he would be
a little more dramatic about it. But this guy is
just like so deadpan. And uh, did I see correctly

(53:46):
this is from like nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety yep, yeah, So,
I mean this is a pretty good while ago at
this point. I put a lot more validity in this
one than I do the first one, how about you.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
I mean, this is one of those ones that I'm
always saying on the show. The guy never refers to
it as a sasquatch, a bigfoot, doesn't want to refer
to it. He's just like, there's a big guy out here.
He's like is he black? Is he white? He's just like,
I don't know, he's just a big, dark guy. And
he threw my dog last week, Like, what the fuck?
What is that?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
That's rancid pixy sticks.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yeah, that's how you deal with the sasquatch. You know'll
previously be throwing the whole idea that if you have
a sasquatch on your property, you just gotta grab his
dick and twist it. No, the new idea is that
you just give him sinide laced sugar sticks and that'll
deal with your sasquatch problem. On anybody's property, The question
is what is the dosage take out a sasquatch with sinide?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Pretty a lot, probably, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Assuming it's like probably like ten times the amount you'd
give a person. But I don't think it takes much
sin and to kill somebody, So I guess.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
It depends on how much insurance money you need to Can.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
You take an insurance policy out on a bigfoot on
your property?

Speaker 3 (54:51):
There's only one way to find out there, like my
insurance company tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
I'd like a cryptid slash extinct species policy. Do you
guys all for that for me today?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Mister Felix? What the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I'd like to ensure the bigfoot on my property. He's
a family member. We love him very much, and in
case of his death, we want to be able to
give him a proper burial because we don't know how
sasquatches are typically buried, so we're gonna give this one
proper burial rights.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I mean, seems legit to me. I'm sure somebody will
take your money for that.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I'm sure anybody would take your money for any excuse.
I mean, I've seen a few episodes of Jackass where
they walked around with the grandma trying to get her
stuffed at taxidermy places after she passed away, and it's
pretty surprised how many people said, well, if you can
get it approved by the state, I sure, I guess
we can do it.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
He man, economy's bad.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Get it where you can, money speaks man, and getting
into the main point that I wanted to get into
with this one, and the whole reason why I want
to bring this up. It's getting passed around a lot
on a lot of like cryptid pages lately. I heard
our Big dumb Mouth reference it. I heard Monsters among
Us reference it recently, and it inspired me to show
you this if you haven't heard about it, because it's

(55:58):
from your home state of North Carolin, I know. And
this call is from two thousand and or twenty twenty one,
if I'm not mistaken, so it's about three.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Years old, relatively recently then.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
And the other cool part about the call is that
there isn't only just the call itself, but there's actually
the sheriff responding to the call itself. So this clip
is going to have like the sheriff responding to what
he thinks of the call, the call itself, and then
it's going to end cap with the sheriff. But for me,
at least it adds more validity to it. But this
is probably one of the craziest police call in stories

(56:29):
that I have ever heard. So without further ado, let's
get into this weird one. And if this isn't too
far from you, man, maybe you need to go out
and investigate this one. Possibly.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I'll let you know.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
It is very hard to listen to that call, to
that nine one one tape without becoming somewhat unnerved. It
actually bothered me the first time that I heard it. Dykay,

(57:02):
now one one, what's the adject of your emergency?

Speaker 3 (57:06):
I'm driving on two ten.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I just crossed the Black River and I thought I
saw a guy expending on the side of the road bleeding.

Speaker 9 (57:14):
Okay, where are you.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
At, sir?

Speaker 10 (57:19):
I'm on two ten, I just crossed the Black River.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I'm heading forwards fifty three D.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
I'm so fucking scared right now.

Speaker 7 (57:26):
I just passed uh Patriots watch Okay, see you're aver
near Morse Creek, Joe.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Okay, and did you you.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Saw a man stand on the side of the road.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Oh my god, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 6 (57:48):
Roll?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
What was that?

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Sir? I hear that.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I don't want to bring it back just a hair
bit because he is. You hear a clunk in the
middle of that, And I want to make sure that
the listeners actually get to hear a clunk. Make sure
I got it up there you go.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Okay, And did you you saw.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
A man stand on the side of.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
The road.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Right there?

Speaker 9 (58:23):
What was that, sir? Why are you okay?

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Sir?

Speaker 3 (58:32):
There's something in the truck.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
Okay, what's in the road?

Speaker 7 (58:38):
It's on the water to my truck.

Speaker 8 (58:41):
There's something in the bed of your truck.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Just just turned on my breat like my truck and
something in my bread.

Speaker 9 (58:49):
Okay, sir.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
When you say something, what do you mean?

Speaker 12 (58:54):
I just dropped it off to the butt of my clock.

Speaker 10 (58:56):
And went over my room.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Okay, what was it?

Speaker 7 (59:00):
According to the cab notes and the deputy reports, this
thing jumped into the back of his pickup truck and
began to actually beat on the top of the cab
of his truck. You could actually hear something beating on
the top of the truck. The caller stated that it
was beating and scratching on the top of the cab
of his truck.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
He actually stated.

Speaker 7 (59:20):
That he was able to engage his bedlight and was
able to somewhat identify this object that was in the
back of his truck. At some point he was able
to slam on his brakes and the force of inertia
actually threw this thing out over his hood and onto
the highway, where this thing stood up in the roadway,

(59:41):
made its way to the woodline and disappeared in the woods.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
It is very hard to and just to throw it
in the lady. There was a little bit more of
an extension to that phone call, and the lady on
the phone is trying to question him on what it
was that was in his truck, and she goes, was
it a bird? Was it a deer? She starts throwing
all this stuff, and he goes, no, it's not a bird.
There's no fact, there's nothing else involved. And she asks
how did how he would describe it, and he just says,
it looks pale, and that's the only like real description

(01:00:08):
that you get of this thing. But you know, every
once in a while, dude, you come across those calls
that when you listen to them and you deeply listen
to them, they just kind of like hit you on
a weird level. This is one of those ones for me.
But I want to hear your thoughts on it before
I go off on a whole thing about this one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Yeah, this one definitely strikes me as more legitimate. This
guys like pretty clearly freaked out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
It sounds like that that's not human comment. Dude, that's
like what really gets you. He goes, that's not human,
that's not human.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
And you know, I'm sure you're gonna talk about this more.
But the fact that he says it's pale that obviously
gets sent to ideas of like windigoes and pale crawlers
things of that nature.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I know I haven't doctrinated you enough because your first
thought wasn't pale crawler. It was Windy Go. And everybody
keeps saying pale crawler. And this has been my whole
pill that I've been trying to die on forever, saying
that people are mixing these creatures up and that Windy
goes pale crawlers. We're all talking about the same thing here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Something else I'll throw in, is it kind of is
reminiscent also of a lot of do you remember when
we talked about the the Lizardman of Skateboard Swamp, like
chasing down cars and a lot of this type of behavior.
So just for curiosity, while we were listening on or
listening to the video, I looked it up and this

(01:01:23):
seemed to me. This Moors Creek Battlefield that they're talking about,
this is in Pender County, North Carolina, which is like
southeast North Carolina. It's probably like an hour or so
from where I grew up back in eastern North Carolina,
but like pretty close to the South Carolina border. So
you know, we've talked about the Lizard Man of Skateboard

(01:01:44):
Swamp a couple times on the show now about how
that was probably misidentified sasquatch sightings. So just something interesting
to kind of think about in lieu of all that, Like,
you're not that far from South Carolina where a lot
of that type of activity was going on on. Granted
that was a lot earlier than this siding, but still

(01:02:04):
something interesting to think about.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
So, at least in your opinion, do you think that
the two events are connected because he originally calls and
says that as he's driving down the road, he sees
this man that's standing on the side of the road
that looks like he's bleeding from his forehead and that
is like clothes are covered in blood. And then he
like makes a direct eye contact with him. He's staring
right at him. Because, like I said, there's a little
bit more. There's like two maybe two more minutes to
the call, but there's that, and then there's the creature

(01:02:28):
that ends up happening after he's calling to report the
initial thing. Do you think that there is a connection
between the two personally or do you think that these
are two separate events.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
So my thoughts on that, you know, when we talk
about bigfoot or dog man or things like that, there
could be a much more you know, we obviously dabble
in the woo woo aspects of all this stuff a lot,
but there could be a much more biological aspect of
those type creatures when we get into like windygos and

(01:02:59):
pail crawl or whatever that is. I kind of like
the idea that, you know, what if what this guy
initially saw was this thing like almost mimicking or trying
to lure this guy in, and then when it didn't work,
then it, you know, it took off the mask and
hunted this guy down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
That's kind of what I was thinking. I think the
connection is that either one, you know, if this thing
was whin to Go, pale crawler, whatever people want to
call them, I think that they're talking about the same thing.
And I'm also kind of stating this from a lot
of the listeners that may not have heard early in
the episode that my main encounter that kind of sparked
up me even researching a lot of this stuff was
with this pale crawler wind to Go type thing. So

(01:03:38):
I'm speaking from a point of experiencing something like this.
But you know, either one, maybe it was the creature
itself trying to look like it needed help to try
to draw the guy off on the side of the road,
like you were saying, and then attack at that point.
Or two, maybe it was a victim of this thing
that it was chasing around, and once the truck kind
of drove through, then this thing got distracked end up

(01:04:00):
taking after the truck because it was something moving a
lot faster. But you know, I definitely think there was
a connection between the two. I don't think that they
were too standalone events. But the question is how are
they connected and what exactly is a pale crawler slash
wind to go?

Speaker 9 (01:04:13):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
How what is the interpretation of them? Like, because like
I said, I think that a lot of the time
we're recategorizing something because windigoes kind of fell into this
point of obscurity where they had this like deer headed
thing and all this, and that was never part of
the lore. Like the original thing that the natives were
describing was this pale, lanky, human like creature. So it
fits exactly what people describe as pale crawlers. But even

(01:04:33):
within that, I think that there's a split between like
cave dwellers and pale crawlers slash windigoes. But again, what's
the level of these things? What's the physicality of these things?
Is it something more spiritual where it has the ability
to shape shift or change its form or possibly present
itself differently, or is it something a little bit more
physical where it's like a matter of I hate to
use the interpretation of like a werewolf, but once you

(01:04:54):
become one of these things, you turn into it and definitely,
and that's just what you are. Or three, there is
never actually an interpretation of you turning into this. It
just kind of became part of the lore because we
look at something now like where wolf and dogmen, and
we kind of have him separated, like the dog men
isn't a man that turns into into a wolf, you know,
so they kind of the lore kind of split up

(01:05:15):
a little bit. You know. Maybe there was this whole
lore that was created saying that people turn into windy goes,
but Windy Gooes were just these creatures that were there
and they created the story afterwards, and there's no part
of turning into them. I mean, it's it's kind of
a hard interpretation, but you know, of course there's going
to be a creature sighting and then a bunch of
stories that come after it regardless.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Yeah, I mean I definitely agree with you on that.
I think if like Windy Gooes, R and D a
real thing, I would tend to believe that it's its
own entity. It's not that, you know, like you said,
not some were wolf aspect that somebody can turn into one.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
The last thing I'll add on with this is I
do think it's kind of interesting that this account happened
while this guy was like driving over a creek and
he was in the vicinity of a battlefeld. Old two
things that we talk about all the time that kind
of thin the veil and are liminal spaces and places
where a lot of high strangeness just naturally occurs. So

(01:06:11):
there's another feather in that cap.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I mean, if you're looking at it from that standpoint
a battlefield, you know. I know we already brought it
up in the show recently, but you know, a Native
American burial grounds. Maybe you're dealing with something because there's
a Native American burial ground nearby. I mean, yeah, I
hate to throw that in because we're talking about it
being like a common motif, but I guess you kind
of have to assess that possibly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Hey, sometimes common motifs are common for a reason, that's true.
But no, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
But yeah, have you heard this one before just out
of curiosity?

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
I have not. No, I enjoyed that one. That's my
favorite one so far.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Well, I know that there's a lot of people researching
on this one, so maybe we'll have to do some
more updates and maybe if you happen to drive past
that area. You'll have to keep everybody posted on if
you happen to get chased by a pale crawler or
win to go type being.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Hey, if that happens, you guys will be the first
to know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
And moving into our last thing for today.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
All right, guys, this is our last break, so hold
on tight, and now back to the show. I figured that,
you know, normally we end the show with something a
little bit funny. We've talked about real world monsters, We've
talked about horror movie monsters, We've talked about, you know,
human monsters. So for this one, I figured maybe for

(01:07:22):
anybody that hasn't heard of this, you might be able
to summon a spirit yourself. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it,
but hey, here's the rules on how to do it.
According to Joe Rogan, for anybody that hasn't heard of
the four Corners game.

Speaker 11 (01:07:36):
Did you know about the four Corners game? It's a
disturbing little ritual. Some say it can reveal if there's
a ghost or something not quite human as hiding in
your home. I'm not telling you to try it, in fact,
I strongly suggest you don't, but here's how it's done.
You'll need four people in a room with exactly four corners.
Once everyone's inside, shut off all the lights, no flashlight,

(01:08:00):
no phones, no candles, total darkness. Then each person must
say their full name out loud. This part matters. It
lets any spirit in the room know who just arrived.
One person is chosen to be the leader. They stand
in the center of the room. The other three each
go to a different corner facing the wall. When everyone

(01:08:20):
is in place, the leader begins the countdown three, two,
one at one. Everyone moves clockwise to the next corner
without turning around. And this is where it gets creepy.
If a spirit, ghost, or something worse as present, a
fourth figure might suddenly appear in one of the corners
no one else entered the room. They're just there. If
you see them. Don't speak, don't reach out, don't even

(01:08:44):
stare for too long. Just keep going because sometimes one
of your group vanishes. If that happens, you must all
leave the room together right away, no looking back, no
second chances, and never ever play the game again. Did
you know about the four.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Corner thoughts on this one seems almost kind of like
a new age, like Bloody Mary to me, But I mean, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Exactly what I was gonna say. This seems like, you know,
candy Man, Bloody Mary type stuff. To answer your questions
from the top of this segment, don't put much stock
in this, don't put much validity in it, don't think
it's probably true at all, But I think it's something
fun to talk about, and you know, this is the
time of year when things like this are extra fun.
So yeah, like I said, don't have a whole lot

(01:09:27):
to add to that one, but definitely fun to kind
of hear Joe talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
I'm so fucking scared right now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
That would be my response if I was doing this
circle game and there just happened to be a ghost
in the corner. Like it's one of those things that
it's in the back of your mind where're like, ah,
it's bullshit, but are you really Are you really polsy
to palsy enough to actually try it? Because I don't
know about you, But when it comes to certain things
like this, I kind of view it almost like the
Ouiji board, where you know, people kind of interpret things
as childhood games, but I don't know. This just is

(01:09:57):
one of those ones where it kind of has that
they're facet to it where it doesn't seem like a
childhood game, you know what I mean, Like, I don't know,
Like Bloody Mary's one thing, but this just feels different.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
And what's best case scenario here, Like your friend doesn't
disappear and you don't conjure a demon like.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
I just I don't really.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I think I'd enough just seeing without my friend disappearing,
just just having something appear in the corner. I mean again,
is it one of those things that your brain is
gonna just assume something's there because you're just gonna fill
in the blank, or again, like what would you do
in that scenario if something actually did appear? You're like,
all right, this is just a bullshit game. It's how
every you know, new age horror movie starts where they're
talking about these childhood games and the next thing you know,

(01:10:37):
you're all trapped into helpescape for the next eternity whatever
you want to call it. But yeah, I don't know,
It's one of those things I'm not really willing to
try personally.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
No, No, I think I'm all good on that. But uh,
if you and three of your friends want to try it, Shane,
I hope you're not the one who gets disappeared.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Well, the good news is I only have so many
people over here. You got Jenny, You got you. I
think you're a little bit closer to being able to
play this game. You just need to get Kevin.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Maybe don't have three friends.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Well, we got Kevin and then maybe me. Maybe we
can all try this one day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
And I don't know if it works long distance over
what are we on right now? We're not on zoom.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Well, next time we're all in a room together, we'll
have to attempt this and we'll have to record it,
and we'll all probably vanish and disappear, and it'll become
this new thing on the internet that's amongst the Dark's
Web that everybody thinks is a fake video, but all
of us actually got kidnapped by a ghost or a demon.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Hey, circling back around to the top of the show.
If you're in crippling debt, no need to kill your children.
Just play this game and get abducted by a demon,
then you're good to go. You don't have to pay
off your debt at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Where's your kid go? I don't know, man, I've played
four corners and he just disappeared. What the hell is
four corners? Don't worry about It's a ghost game. He disappeared.
The fucking ghosts have him. He's in the ghost dimension.
Don't you know how to get past that? You have
to go through the closet. I think that's what we
learn from Poltergeist. If your child is ever trapped in
the ghost realm, first try their closet because there might

(01:12:05):
be a giant pink portal thing that might spit some
goo at you. You never know, and you might end
up falling through the roof into your front room. Who
knows what.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Could possibly go on? All right, Shane, you got anything
else on this one?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Nope, other than don't try it, and if you do,
please let me know how it goes. I mean, anybody
has the balls to try it. I want to hear
some feedback, so you better hit me up if there's
any of you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Left to tail the tail that's scary.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
All right, Well, thank you guys for joining us tonight
and listening to all this bullshit. We hope that you
guys have enjoyed it and we've kind of helped y'all
get your spooky season started off. Y'all can catch our
next episode of Bizarre Inquiries. It's gonna be Thursday, November sixth,
roughly seven to fifteen Eastern Time on the Bizarre Reality

(01:12:52):
Media YouTube channel. Be sure to submit any questions, articles,
or anything like that. We're kind of been kicking around
the eye idea of focusing on like kind of colonial
pilgrim Native American type stories in November for excuse me
for Thanksgiving obviously, so anything in that nature. You guys
shoot those stories our way and also join us in

(01:13:14):
the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Somebody's gonna send us what are you thankful for, like
as a troll, somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
For a right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
But if anybody would like to get in touch with
us for any recent whatsoever, Shane tell them how they
can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
First and foremost, you guys can get a hold of
us through the emails, depending on which side you are
listening on, you guys need to get a hold of
us at Bizarre Encounters at outlooks dot com or through
increase of our reality podcasts at outlook dot com. Or
you guys can also get ahold of us through social media.
Instagram and Facebook are the two that were the most
active on again. You guys can look up either show
when it comes to that. You guys can also get
ahold of us through the submission form which is available

(01:13:50):
at the top of both of the link trees. And
the last way you guys can get ahold of us
is by texting or calling the Bizarre Reality Media Hotline.
That number is three one, three, three six four five
five to one, and you guys can text or call
that twenty four to seven. And if you guys might
be interested in being part of our big Halloween special,
then you guys can call in and share your experiences
there too, or you guys could always text them to

(01:14:11):
me and we will read them on the show and
of course give you guys a big shout out. But
make sure you guys get those into us before October
twenty ninth, because that will be when the live special
will be happening. Well, twenty ninth or thirtieth one of
those two days, either way, get it to us before
the end of October. I think it's the thirtieth thirtieth
either way, get it to us before the end of October.
Just just just do it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
And if you guys would like to support the show,
Shane tell them how they can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
First and foremost, you guys can go and check out
the Patreon with two tiers available, AD free slash early
access and full access.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
You guys can also check out the merch store with
t shirts starting at the scary low and oddly specific
price of fifteen sixty eight plus shipping.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Wow, that's a great price. You guys can also go
and follow the show on Instagram and Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
You can leave a review and like and subscribe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
You guys can always share the show through word of
mouth with anybody that you think might enjoy it, or
possibly even people you think might hate it, but hey,
I guess all all publicity is good publicity.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
And you guys can also check out live shows on
the Bizarre Realities Media YouTube and Twitch channels, which I
still don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I still haven't fully figured out Twitch, and we ain't
get much going on over there, So you guys can
follow on YouTube. That's all it really matters. But every
single thing we mentioned is all available in the link tree,
which is available down in that show description. And with that,
I hope that you guys kept it relatively spooky this episode.
I hope you guys are having a good Halloween season
and as we get a little bit closer, I will
of course end up pushing you guys a happy Halloween.

(01:15:41):
But just like I always tend to do at the
end of every single show, I got to remind you
guys to always always stay bizarre.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
I can't remember go I normally say something for this show.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
I think at this part where it goes to dramas,
I got no Well, I got sound by, so that works.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
That's scary. What is that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Fuck that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Holy chef?

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Hi, I'm the Wicked Leader. Fuck you k your deck

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