Bizarre Inquiries #28 "4D Reality, The Montauk Project, Tom Brady's Dog Clones, & Drunk Driver Blames Chupacabra"

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Bizarre Bizarre Inquiries with.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Shane and or.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Welcome Bizarre Rats and inquirers to Bizarre Inquiries, the show
where you start with a clip, article or inquiry and
let our minds wander. I am the original Shane Squatch,
the big bad oh fuck, I already sucked it up, ah,
I am the one that some referred to as Shane
aka the original Shane Squatch.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
I am.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
And alongside me, as usual, I have the big bad
boot Daddy himself, sir or if so bang bang Skeith Skeeth. Hey,
that's the first time I messed up on the intro
coming in, so I guess it was. It was overdue
at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
So two things. Number one, you're trying to steal my nickname,
which I don't hear. Number two is that the I
am delivered like the I don't like men's no matter.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I figured i'd bring that one back YouTube video. It's
been a while since you've heard that one. I think
I mess up the dynamic a little bit today because
if you notice, my hat's a little bit different, so
I kind of look like Tim Poole today. So I
was in that timpool mindset. So I totally fucked myself
up coming in. So not only am I stealing your name,
I'm also stealing Tim Poole's looks. So it's gonna start
to the show, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Just plagiarizing all over the place tonight, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Hey? Well, you know, I guess, uh, you know, kind
of gotta do that at least to some extent in
order for the show to work. But it's under the
what is it fair use? That's how we how we
make this show work, at least for at least the
YouTube algorithms, So under fair use, right, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
A parody, all right, keep telling yourself that.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm gonna keep telling myself that because that's the only way,
at the end of the day that I'm not gonna
feel guilty for stealing other people's stuff, stealing their looks.
But aside from stealing, considering that, you know, we didn't
actually get a chance to mention it on the last show,
I wanted to throw in that it is was belated
birthday to stir Orn Felix over here, So happy birthday.
I don't know how old you are now, maybe like

(02:16):
fifty six or something, But since you can get a
chance to stand on bizarre counters. I'd figured i'd say
happy birthday on bizarre.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Inquiries, thank you first off, and you're not far off.
I'm going on fifty six, so you pretty much nailed it.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Hey, what's the general rule? Once you hit fifty star
coming back down? So, hey, you'll be thirty six again
eventually if I make it that long, crush your fingers.
In this crazy world we live in, you never know. Well,
I guess kind of bringing it into what we're gonna
end up getting into today talking about crazy world, I
guess it's perfect thing to lead into the first thing
we're going to get into today. So I didn't exactly

(02:52):
know how to fully portray this, but it was something
that weirdly enough kind of came after our last conversation
that we had with Trey Hudson and talking about the
Metal project and getting into the whole multi dimension theory.
So I want to kind of continue on with that,
getting into a realm of conversation pertaining to this, But
first I have to start at least, and I'll kind
of get into it a little bit as I play
some of the clips on what kind of inspired this

(03:14):
besides Trey Hudson, for anybody, it may not be familiar
with this book over here. I ended up getting to
this last week. It's called Flat Lens, A Romance of
Many Dimensions, And basically the premise of what this book
is supposed to be is that it's told from the
perspective of a square in a two dimension reality. And
he ends up having like this entire thing where he
explains like how the two dimensional reality works, how they're

(03:36):
able to interact with each other, like their viewpoint on
how they perceive and how they go about their reality.
And so he ends up having a dream and he
goes into a one dimension reality and he's trying to
explain how the two dimension reality works to a one
dimension reality being, and of course that concept absolutely makes
no sense. So he's like, all right, whatever, he gives up,
and he ends up, you know, waking back up in
his reality. So he ends up later on he's sitting

(03:58):
there talking to his wife and this three dimension, three
dimensional object ends up appearing. Considering they're in a two
dimensional reality, everything's like flat, and this thing ends up
coming in and it's a sphere, but he doesn't recognize
it as a sphere because he's not aware of what
a sphere is, so it comes into their reality and
it looks like it just appears because they don't understand

(04:18):
that it's coming from, you know, like that outside perspective.
So they see it and they assume that it's a
circle because they're looking at its shape from that two
dimensional perspective. And so he starts trying to explain to
them how a third dimensional reality works. And he starts
trying to say, like, hey, I can see you guys
from the side, because in their reality all the different
shapes that interact with each other, they have to learn
how to tell shapes off of different lighting angles and

(04:41):
things like that because they can't see from the side
to actually like perceive. So the way that he ends
up perceiving it is, I can see like inside of
you guys, but once you get pulled back into this reality,
then you'll also be able to see my perspective. But
I guess I'm gonna put this on hold temporarily for
a minute so we can start kind of building up
on this concept. But the first clip that I wanted
to share was kind of explaining the perspective from multiple realities,

(05:05):
and then y'all, we'll get into the weirder stuff. But
bring up the first clip here.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
All right, So, first off, all that sounds like the
most that seventy shows sitting in the circle ideas I've
ever heard in my fucking life, Like it runs on
water man.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Dude, it's fascinating. You know what's weird, though, is all
these books that have such weird, mind boggling concepts are
all like, this book was written in eighteen eighty four,
and this dude's talking about like multi dimensional perspectives of things,
and it gets weirder as we go in, and you'll
kind of get into the philosophy behind it. But dude,
some of the best stoner books came from the late
eighteen hundreds where people weren't even smoking yet.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Like that, this dude was like fucking out of his
mind on opium and absent and whatever else they did
back in the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, I mean it was in England, so at least
they had the opium den so I can at least
vouch for that. I know Alice in Wonderland and other
books are on that time were created because of opium
den so I wouldn't be surprised. Shows it definitely shows,
But getting into some you know, that seventy show mind
bending stoner type talk. Let's get into this explanation of
realities and how they could possibly function.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Dimension is just a simple line that connects two points
and has only length. The second dimension is a square.
To make a square, take two lines and move them
apart at right angles in the second dimension, and join
the matching ends of the lines together with other lines. Now,
this flat shape has only two dimensions, link and width.

(06:29):
The third dimension is a cube. To make a cube,
you take two squares and move them apart at right
angles in the third dimension, then join the matching sides
of the squares together with other squares. The cube has
three dimensions length, width and height. A fourth dimensional shape
is also known as a Tessa ract or a hypercube. Now,

(06:49):
to make a test erract, take two cubes and move
them apart at right angles in the fourth dimension. Then
join the matching faces of the cubes together. Our brain
cannot comprehend this object the same way a two D
species would not be able to perceive a three D
object the.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
First see and this is where stuff starts to get weird. Now,
so hopping back into a little bit of like what
they end up talking about, in the book. So he
ends up taking the Square to the third dimension reality.
And when he's in the third dimension reality, he starts
kind of explaining how these things function, and of course
it's confusing, but he at least kind of gets like
a basic concept on how these things function. So in
the process of this, he's like, Hey, how come you

(07:26):
know we aren't aware of you in the second reality?
How come you know you guys don't make yourselves relevant
and known in this reality, And so they say, we have,
We try to, but you guys end up quieting us.
So they end up going into like the main room
where everybody's talking and chatting about politics and everything, and
they just appear into this reality, of course, because they're
coming from a third dimension perspective, and essentially all the
priests and all the high up people decide that they

(07:48):
want to hide this whole concept. So then after that
the Square ends up basically becoming, for lack of better term,
like an apostle almost where you start sharing this thing
that he calls the Gospel of Let me bring it up.
I got I made sure I got some notes on
this one. He calls it the Gospel of three dimensions,
and he starts going around trying to tell explain this
to people, and he starts trying to explain how this

(08:10):
concept could possibly work, and he starts trying to like
break it down so that it could be a little
bit more simple, and in turn, of course, he ends
up getting like prosecuted for this type of stuff. So
it ends up being this like broader perspective where this
is kind of where I wanted to bring it into
here on the last show, we're kind of talking about
towards the tail n the whole concept of you know,
like the Holy Trinity, that you have this like physical

(08:32):
thing that's here, You have this thing that kind of
exists in this ethereal plane, and then you also have
this thing that kind of exists everywhere all at once.
So for me at least, and I want to get
your perspective on this, and we can get more into
like the concept of like fourth dimension reality. But it
almost kind of seems like this book one is almost
trying to be like a parody for religion, and that

(08:52):
it seems like the whole concept that we've been talking
about for a long time about a lot of these
religious figures actually being something that's fourth dimensional or even
higher than that seems to be this concept that kind
of pops up through time, and it almost kind of
seems like it's almost somewhat repressed because just like in
the book, it's like the whole story about it basically
shattering people's perspective of reality if they actually know that

(09:15):
the next dimension up fully exists, because if you kind
of believe in it in theory, then it's a lot
different than if it's practical and something's actually coming into
your reality, because at that point, I mean, you almost
might potentially lose free will if you know that something
else is possibly manipulating your reality from above. But I
guess I'll let you throw in some of your thoughts
before getting deeper into this.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
But yeah, I mean, just right off the rip, it
sounds like, you know, this is touching on, like you said,
a lot of things we talk about on the show.
First off, this idea that forces or things or entities
whatever you want to call them, from a different reality,
you know, space, time, continuum, whatever you want to call it,

(09:55):
can bleed into our reality. Can you know, pierce the
veil and come thrue? I mean, you know where I
stand on this. I think that is kind of at
the root of a lot of paranormal and high strangeness activity.
I mean, you know, I've said on the show before,
something as simple as you know, people say, well, why
have we never discovered a bigfoot carcass? Or what does

(10:17):
the Locknest monster eat? If you look at things like that,
as you know, if there's this pinprick in the veil
and these things are only in our reality for these
brief moments in time or when a certain set of
circumstances you know, allows it, it makes it where you
don't have to answer those type of questions. So you know,

(10:41):
like I've always said, if you just entertain the possibility
that hey, there could be weirder things going on out there,
it becomes, at least in my case, a lot easier
to believe some of these kind of zany, esoteric or
out there ideas that we talk about on the show.
And you know, I'm not saying all of this stuff
is one hundred percent correct, and yes, I believe one

(11:02):
all of this, but you know, a lot of it.
I think there's a lot of validity too, and it's
at least fun to think about, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, exactly, because it could completely explain the whole concept
on why these things appear to be able to step
out of reality. It may not necessarily be that, you know,
there's like a portal or anything like that in particular,
but rather that they're viewing reality from a different perspective.
And of course you have, you know a lot of
people that theorize that the next dimension up would be time,
So whatever would be existing in that dimension would essentially

(11:30):
be able to step out of time and then step
back in, which, if you're thinking about it from that perspective,
I mean, totally fits the whole motif of Sasquatch. I've
been seeing these things all through time, even some of
like you know, the raven mocker, slash like a mothman
or all these like weird things that kind of pop
up through pockets throughout time. It may be a fact
of you know, if that is the next dimension up,

(11:50):
it is time itself. If they just step out of
time and they had this perspective that we don't necessarily have,
it may not be that, you know, Sasquatch has been
existing all through time necessary, but rather that they're stepping
back and forth into fixed points in time. As where
as that sounds.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, I think what's interesting about that is if we're
operating under the assumption that the next dimension up the
fourth dimension is time. You know, even in our dimension,
time we pretty much know operates in a very different
way than we kind of perceive it and are led
to believe. It's not this linear abc D type process.

(12:27):
It's a lot stranger than that. And so if you
were to go up a dimension in theory, I mean,
how much stranger would it appear, you know, for you know,
us mere humans at that point. So, I mean, I
think that makes a lot of sense, Like if we
are to assume that time is the next dimension, and
I think there's a lot of validity to that. I mean,

(12:47):
like you said, it would be like this you know,
two D thing looking at this one D thing. We'd
have no idea what we're looking at. And I think
that kind of gets back to something you've said before
with like a shadow people and things of that effect,
where you know, your brain might not be able to
process the information that's actually there, whether that be like

(13:08):
you know, light spectrum type shit or whatever.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Or they appear flat too, So it could be like
that dimensional perspective too.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, you kind of just fill in with your brain
and it fills in this you know, darker than dark,
blacker than black shadow figure.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
See, this is where it starts to get even weirder,
because time seems to be like the one that everybody
kind of puts some stock and validity behind, is the
next dimension up. But in this book they also kind
of share this concept that I was also kind of onto, uh,
the whole thing that they say that the next dimension
up they believe would be this dimension of thought. That's
basically how they describe it. Because it appears that as
you're going back dimensions, this is gonna be hard to

(13:44):
fathom again because we're third dimensional going into a fourth dimension,
but it appears that from that perspective you can see
inside of whatever's in that other reality. So when you're
looking at a line and you go into two D,
you can see it from the side, so you're able
to see the inside of everything. When you go into
that third dimensional reality, like I was mentioning, with the
two dimensional reality, you're looking at everything from the side,
so you can see the inside of things. So if

(14:05):
that continuation kind of goes on and you get into
the whole concept of like the tesseract for example, which
is the cube inside of a cube. It's almost like
an unfathomable thing. But the next dimension up would be
this perspective where essentially you could see inside of whatever
our reality is, whatever we're able to perceive that. But
it's almost like an inconceivable concept of like what would

(14:25):
the inside of our reality look like? But I feel
like that would be the next perspective up. Like, I
don't know if it's necessarily time. I almost think it's
like this next step going in, like this astral plane
possibly might be more of like a better explanation of
what the fourth dimension up might might possibly be.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, first off, I was kind of gonna hit on
that kind of concept as well, but before I do that,
you know, it kind of sounds you know, from the
movie Interstellar at the end of it, where he's like
in the bookcase closet dimension or whatever and he can
kind of see through to all the different dimensions points
in time. Kind of sounds similar to that in a way.

(15:02):
But yeah, piggybacking off your point, if you go up
a dimension theoretically and you're looking at time in this
very esoteric nonlinear way, at that point what's the difference
between consciousness or time and like you know, a caustic
record type concepts. I mean, to me, that makes a

(15:23):
lot of sense that you know, this idea that all
things exist at all times, like at that point to
me anyway, it seems like there's not a whole lot
of difference between time and consciousness. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
See, that's where I'm kind of getting into the fact
that I don't necessarily think time is the next step up.
I think it's a matter of this next step going inside,
because even when you're kind of looking at it from
that perspective, I mean, even with like astral projection for example,
you know you can see like inside of somebody, so
to speak, you get this also different perspective where you're
almost like looking at reality from like a different perspective too,

(15:56):
like you're almost like outside of time itself, which again
kind of a weird to fathom, but it might be
multiple things all at once that you go inside, and
by going inside, you get outside of the physical reality,
and then you go inside of time itself. But I
got a few more other e clips I wanted to
possibly share on this, but it seems like there's this
kind of back and forth between the whole concept of

(16:19):
time and going inside. But I think that is the trick.
It's just a matter of Again, it's unperceivable from our perspective,
but we can understand these two basic concepts that clearly
go together in order to kind of explain this. But here,
let me bring up the next one. Here.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Here it is.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Now, I got one more clip after this one too.
Look at this piece of wire.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Now, from very far away, this wire would look like
it's one dimensional, and that, for instance, if a little
aunt was living on it, you'd say, well, it can
move left and right along the wire, But that's it.
There's only one possibility. But then as you get closer
to the wire, you realize that there's a second curled
up circular dimension, the circular girth of the wire right,
and therefore our microscopic ant can not only go back
and forth, it can also walk around the wire a

(17:00):
second curled up dimension. Now, what the idea is according
to string theory, is that the fabric of the universe
is much like this piece of wire, and that there
are the familiar dimensions that you refer to left, right, back, forth,
up and down, and also time. But there can be
additional dimensions that are tightly curled up like the circular
girth of the wire, and are so small that we
haven't seen them yet because we don't have sufficient magnifying

(17:22):
instruments to actually peer down into the nooks and crannies
of the spatial fabric.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
And see these extra dimensions.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Look at this. See But this is going back into
the idea of what we're kind of saying. It's this
mixture of being inside of our reality but also mixed
with time itself, because I think time clearly only exists
within our third reality physical dimensions, so once you go
outside of that, it'd be no different than us drawing
a line in a two D reality.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
First off, how many more times is that guy gonna
say circular gird that? And I mean, kind of like
we said before, like if you go up a dimension theoretically,
like however we in our puny little human brains perceived

(18:06):
time or anything, you know, outside of our three D plane,
I mean, it would make perfect sense to me, like
I said earlier, that like whatever we perceive it as
is just a drop in the bucket of whatever is
actually going on there, and it'll never be something that
we're able to perceive, which and again gets into this
whole idea that I think that there's a lot of
truths hidden the Bible, which I've been saying for a

(18:27):
long time, and the more that I've been diving into
this stuff, like nobody really understands the Holy Trinity. It
seems like it's more of like a concept that everybody's like, oh,
it could mean this, you could mean that. But I'm
starting to believe that it's basically trying to explain something
that's existing in the fourth dimensional reality from a third
dimensional perspective, because we can't perceive the fact that something
can be everywhere all at once, which would be the inside.

(18:47):
It's also in this ethereal plane, so it's in that
other plane, but it's also able to be physical in
all reality, which is almost like when the sphere comes
into our reality and they get this perspective of like
a circle.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So go ahead, sorry, oh no, no, I was.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Just gonna say, yeah, I'm obviously not a theologian, not
a Bible scholar, but I have heard on various like
podcasts and you know, reading articles and whatnot, that the
idea of the Holy Trinity in you know, like fucking
cosmic in a cosmic timeline. I guess we'll say, is

(19:24):
like a very new concept, Like this is not something
that like ancient people's believed, this idea of the Holy Trinity,
and it came about later. So maybe it did come
about as a way for people to understand and explain
and kind of humanize these kind of broad reaching, bizarre concepts.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, because it's a matter of language, Like we've said
a million times, Like, first of all, the people at
that time weren't as advanced as far as like theoretical
astrophysics go, for example. So like thinking of trying to
explain something like that, what not a better way to
explain it that it's here in our reality, it's also
in that reality, but it's also everywhere all at once.

(20:05):
They can see inside of everything. Like that sounds like
exactly what they're trying to explain with the whole third
reality coming into the second reality. Just again going up
another perspective.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, I mean, it's like we always say more than
one thing can be true at the same time exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
So I also want to bring up this last video.
This is also what's his name, Mishio Kaku. I've seen
him a bunch of Times astrophysicist. I don't even know
if I pronounce this.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
He's on ancient aliens all the time.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
But this is supposed to be like one of the
best explanations of how the third dimension reality works. So
just for the sake of bringing it up from somebody
that's a little bit more qualified, you know, I might
as well bring it up to me.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Well, Einstein says, the fourth dimension is time. So if
you want to meet somebody in Times Square, you say
me on forty second straight, fifth Avenue, tenth floor at noontime.
So it takes four numbers to specify lunch in Manhattan.
But we now believe there could be other dimensions, perhaps
as many as eleven dimensions. We hope to test these

(21:01):
ideas with the large Hadron collider what's the.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Fourth As of course, we got to do a little
bit of a tail end with the hydrogen particle collider
because obviously we know they have a lot of different
things they're actually trying to do with that, and it
seems that one of them is opening portals slash getting
into these other dimensions and realities. But yeah, fascinating way
to explain it. With the whole concept of you know,
basically happening to say time with height with all of
that stuff like with times square. I think that's probably

(21:25):
one of the best analogies that I could think of
for at least what we kind of attempt to perceive
as the fourth reality.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, and talking about the Hadron collider and opening portals
and things of that nature. That is a perfect segue
into my topic. If you don't have anything else to
add to this one.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
No, I think it should be about good man, we
can wrap it up and head into yours perfect segue.
So let's a hold on site, guys, Bizarre Increase. We'll
be right back after this brief commercial.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Break, and now we're back. Yeah, we ought to take
those natural segues when we can get them. But anyway,
so for all you listeners out there, Shane had told
me he was going to kind of do like a
kind of heady, out there topic for his topic tonight.

(22:13):
So I thought I would do something a little more
lighthearted and kind of topical and pop culture, but also
kind of touching on the bizarre. So we're going to
talk about some of the inspirations for stranger things. I'm
sure a lot of you guys like me and Jenny
just binged the whatever part one, volume one of the

(22:35):
last season the Stranger Things this past week. Oh it's
October's been talking about too, so exactly, so I thought
it'd be kind of fun to talk about this. So
the article I've got comes from a website called out
East dot com and it is titled Stranger Things in
the Hamptons, The Story of the Montalk Project. And this

(22:56):
article was published on October thirtieth of twenty eighteen. But
even though it's a little older article, it's still very topical.
So unless you got anything else, Shane, I'll go ahead
and jump into this hop.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Right in man project mindsc is always topical. It doesn't
matter when it is what it is, like, I'm always
down for It's like mk ultra dude, all you got
to say is the word, and I'm down. Let's talk
about it.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I figured we have a lot to unpack with this one,
all right, So getting started. When you think of the
hit Netflix series Stranger Things, you probably think small Town, Indiana,
which is natural since the show is set there. But
what you may not know is that the show's original
working title was Montalk. Why because the show is based

(23:36):
in part on rumors surrounding the Camp Hero Airbase and
events there that remain shrouded in mystery. Located in you
guessed at Montak, New York. Since virtually all knowledge of
this incident has come from word of mouth interviews, it's
hard to dig into what happened and to know where
the truth lies. But in honor of the spookiest day

(23:56):
of the year, we wanted to give you some quick
notes on the story, along with some Halloween reading to
help you dig further. You just might get a new
campfiretail out of it.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
The little spoofy things I gotta throw in there, here
and there?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Where did it go down? Anyone who spent a fair
amount of time in Montak has probably stumbled on the
urban legend of Camp Hero State Park, located at the
far eastern tip of Long Island. This network of paths
and campgrounds is actually pretty pleasant. It's the large, severe
looking remnants of an air force base and its giant
antenna towers, complete with a huge concrete slab that says

(24:34):
do not enter this building, which serve as the chief
fodder for local mischief and spooky retellings. Feel free to
stop buy if you want the base is located just
about in the dead middle of the park. But be
warned that if you go into any of the gated
areas or sealed off edifices, you will be trespassing. So
what actually happened? The story goes like this. Back during

(24:56):
World War II, the US Navy allegedly conducted experiments to
which it's never admitted, attempting to use supernatural or psychic
means to make ships invisible to radar. This spawned a
group of nineteen fifties conspiracy theorists who speculated that these
experiments opened a wormhole and caused an entire battleship to disappear.

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This bit of lore is known as the Philadelphia Experiment.
And where did the ship go? Well, a wormhole in
time to the eighties apparently, and that's exactly when another
linked psychic experiment took place. It was called the Montok Project. So, Shane,
I know you've done some research on the Philadelphia Experiment.
Is there anything you'd like to add before we kind

(25:40):
of jump into the next section.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, I guess just for the sake of it, I'm
sure everybody's kind of heard about the Philadelphia experiment, but
just for like a quick runover for everybody. Essentially, what
this was was they were trying to run an experiment
where they could see if they could essentially pass this
ship through time itself, through reality and appear somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
And it wasn't it under the guise of trying to
develop technology to make ships where they couldn't be detected
on radar.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yes, exactly, that's what it was. And they ended up
using something that it was some type of like giant
magnetic battery, which goes into some weird stuff that we
talked about a bit earlier with these portals opening, which
I think we dived into that episode, using these magnetic
rings possibly to actually use that to transport through But
essentially what happened is they kicked this thing on, this
thing disappeared, showed back up along the coast way farther

(26:27):
down and where it was showed up along the coast,
there was people that were like merged into the ship.
There were people that just went were going crazy, like
they couldn't fathom what they had seen. So, I mean
continues on with what we were talking about in the
last thing. You know, did these people see the fourth
dimension and their brain just could not perceive it to
the point where it basically just drove the mad instantly,
because even the other thing, if you're stepping outside of time,

(26:49):
this may have just been a quick flash for you know,
project Montac or for this project that it went from
you know, this location to this location, but who knows
how long they could have been trapped inside of that.
Not to mention while they were trapped inside of that,
they were possibly even seeing their friends colleagues get morphed
and fall into the ship itself because the physical reality
wasn't existing the same at that point. But really really

(27:11):
really weird project. I don't know if there's been actual
any paperwork that anybody's discovered about it, but it seems
like with a lot of these black projects, you know,
they kind of purposely leave them in folklore, and it
seems folklore. But once you start really diving into the
whole concept of CERN and how the hydrogen particle collider
works and everything, you quickly start to realize that this
story lines up and that the technology clearly is a

(27:33):
predecessor of the hydrogen particle collider.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. So just kind of rounding out
some of that, Like you said, this experiment was performed
on a ship called the USS Eldridge and it took
place at the Philadelphia Navy Shipyard, So that's why it's
called the Philadelphia Experiment. And like you said, yeah, the
ship disappeared and it reappeared in Norfolk, Virginia momentarily before

(28:00):
reappearing in Philadelphia, And like you said, that's when the
crew was like fused into the walls and the hull
of the ship.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Seeing that kind of weirdly enough, we were talking about
the next dimension, seems like it would be inside of
this reality because you should be able to see the
inside of things from the next step up, even getting
into the Tazerac thing. So if that is the case,
I mean, that would totally make sense on why people
morph into things if you're not intended to be in
that reality, but you can see that perspective of the

(28:28):
inside of things. Like like I said, I think it's
all there. It's just a matter of we can never
fully fathom it because our brains aren't intended to but
all the pieces are there, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, I mean it makes perfect sense to me that
matter would behave totally differently when you move up a
dimension or going through these wormholes or portals or whatever
you want to call them.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I mean I feel like almost in the fourth reality,
you could exist within something. But the problem is you
come back to the third reality. If you're not out
of it, then you're going to become part of it,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not the biggest fan
of like ghosts and things like that, but that could
also explain some of that type activity as well, at
ghosts and poultergeists and hauntings and things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, I mean there could even be I mean getting
into like a little bit more spiritual aspect of things,
like you have the whole energy release of like consciousness
and the soul, and it has to go somewhere, and
clearly it's not able to do anything in this physical reality,
like it needs some other form of reality. So I mean,
I wouldn't even be surprised if I guess you could
say the afterlife, maybe even possibly heaven, whatever you want

(29:35):
to call it. Whatever this place is that the energy
goes to after you pass away, could potentially be the
fourth dimension.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, I think that makes perfect sense. All right, So
I'm gonna jump back in and we're gonna talk about
the Montalk Project itself a little bit.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
So.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
The article says, apparently these Montalk Project experiments which took
place right at the base or participated in by the
same man who made the wormhole, claims a fifty seven
year old al Beelick. He claims that his name isn't
actually al Beelick, but instead Edward Cameron, one of two

(30:11):
brothers who participated in the Philadelphia experiment while in their
twenties and later in life via the wormhole, participated in
more psychic experiments in Montoc. He was able to recover
his repressed memories after reading a book about the Montalk
Project written by a man named Preston Nichols, who in
turn had recovered his own repressed memories to tell the story.

(30:34):
Among other things, the various members of the project allegedly
worked on a chair that used electro magnets to amplify
psychic energy and a psychic association trick called the Seeing Eye,
similar to the experiment eleven goes through in Season one
of Stranger Things.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh, I forgot to throw this detail in, by the way.
In the book, by the way, when they start explaining
the other realities to people, they call it the all
seeing reality, So I want to throw that one in there,
just because I on that terminology really interesting, and it
also seems to kind of fall in with this.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's also kind of interesting when you talk about like
the all seeing eye and occult symbolism and like conspiracy
and things like that.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
It's the fourth dimensional perspective if you're looking at it
from that viewpoint.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well, and that goes back to you saying, you know,
kind of like religion or whatever and people trying to
repress these ideas. Isn't that kind of what secret societies
have been doing forever, like trying to keep these things
occult and hidden. So I think that's kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Translation, just like the priests and flat world. Man, it's
a matter of they don't think people can handle the
concept of the next reality up, so they just try
to keep it a secret so they don't quote shatter
people's reality. It's that whole thing of thinking you're playing
the hero when you're not necessarily playing the hero, because
I guess it's a matter of perspective. I mean, maybe
some people are a little bit more simple, and if
they knew that there was the next step up, they

(31:51):
would feel like nothing that they do is relevant at
that point. But on the other side, you know, it's
that whole thing about keeping secrets from people. There's a
lot of people that would be better off knowing that information.
So I guess it's kind of a hard line there
to pull on whether or not you release specific information.
And I'm not trying to, you know, justify anything that
the government does necessarily, but you know, putting yourself in
a different perspective and shoes, you know, maybe there is

(32:14):
some information that you know, people just aren't honestly going
to be able to handle. Like I mean, that's a
lot of like the UFO stuff, Like I don't even
think it's necessarily always just a government conspiracy on things.
I think that there is a huge faction of it
that it's like the average person will not be able
to fathom this, like they will their brains will break,
they will end up in a luneous islum, like they

(32:34):
just they can't do it.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Kind of what people always say about like UFO disclosure,
Like if you make this known and you know, people
know that there's all these other things and beings out there,
how do you get people to show up to work
on Monday, and you pay their taxes and get their
car inspected and all this piddly shit we have to
do here on earth.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, you can step out of time, but please go
to your rat race job and be materialistic.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
And pay your property taxes on shit you already own.
So but anyway, so jumping back in, they all claim
that these repressed memories were intentionally hidden using coercion by
the government as a means of protecting the project, protecting
the project's secrecy. Excuse me, follow this story till the

(33:18):
to the end and you'll discover more about child abductions,
monster summoning, and many more unpleasant claims. It's all murky and,
as we said, pretty questionable, considering it so word of mouth.
But if you want to know more, check out Preston
Nichols The Montalk Project Experiments in Time if you'd like
a quicker read. There are synopsises and speculation out there, YadA, YadA, YadA.

(33:42):
So have you read this book, Shane The Montalk Project.
I have not Experiments in Time? So I read it.
I was super jazzed up to read it. You know,
I knew kind of the broad strokes of the Montalk
Project and all that, and I was like, man, that
is awesome. I'm all in cannot wait to dive into this,

(34:03):
and I fully intended to do an episode of Bizarre
Encounters about it. Read the book and came away being like, man,
I think this dude's just full of shit. Like it's
one of those things where like I was super on
board with a concept and then when I actually like
really dug into it, I believed it less and less
the further I went on, Like this guy kind of

(34:27):
just seems like he's a bit of like an egotistical
like glory Hound, and like the story that he tells
is batshit insane. I mean he talks about like how
this project was being funded by like hidden Nazie Gold
and all this crazy shit.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
And dude, if you get into my weird perspective of things,
with the whole connecting stuff with you know, from World
War Two going on through all the uf abduct or
the UFO abduction stuff, I mean that would almost kind
of makes sense in a weird way because it seems
like the.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Gold is like one of the no more believable things.
But like this guy just it's impossible that one person
was involved in all these things and like just everywhere
that this guy claims to be Like, it's just not possible.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
So I mean, when did the book come out?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
By the way, Uh, well, all this supposedly happened in
the eighties, so I think the book came out in
like late eighties, early nineties.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I was thinking it might have been part of that
generation where obviously we've seen this huge flip as far
as being able to control a narrative, where back in
the day everybody got it from their straight new source.
You could easily control the narrative quickly through the new source.
But nowadays we've gotten to this point where there's just
so much information out there. The only way that it
seems like you're able to control a narrative is by
putting the narrative out there and then throwing a bunch

(35:44):
of other crazy shit around it. And they also take
advantage of people where they think that they're privy to information.
They'll give them some good information and then they'll give
a bunch of other crazy bullshit, so it ends up
flooding it out. So it seems like nowadays controlling the
narrative isn't a matter of hiding the information. It's a
matter of putting it out there with so much other
ridiculous shit so that people won't believe the real narrative.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, exactly, Like I think there could be a nuggetive
truth in this, I mean MK ultra and all that
kind of stuff, and like remote viewing. We know the
government was into this weird shit.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Child abductions too, going in with the modern UFO stuff
that children will come back and all of a sudden
have these like telepathic abilities, Like maybe it's a continuation
of something like this. You know that they were trying
to bring those abilities out in kids, Like I said,
it sidelines with the UFO abduction phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, So I mean I think there's it's very possible
that there's a nuggetive truth in all this, and like
at its very core, a lot of the stuff is
pretty easy to believe, especially for weirdos like us. But
I mean, the book I think is at best heavily
heavily embellished. But anyway, I'll jump back in if you

(36:52):
don't have anything else to add right now, No, sir,
So we've only got like a little bit more in
the article. But I do have some clo and thoughts
as well, so it says, where does it all fit
into the Hampton's Most people probably don't think about this
as part of the Hampton's history. The sealed off buildings
are admittedly spooky though, and they may mean folks can't

(37:16):
go in and see for themselves. But the lore was
strong enough for Netflix and the Duffer Brothers, who are
from North Carolina by the way, to use it as
a backdrop for the celebrated Stranger Things series. Well, they
later changed the setting to Indiana for aesthetic reasons, the
inspiration for the story remains largely in the East End,
and true or not, it makes for interesting conversation around

(37:39):
a campfire or at your next horror movie night. 'tis
the season? After all?

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I believe that weren't they They're originally going to call
the show Montak, and then they ended up changing their name.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, so I think they probably thought they were
skirting a little too close, and so they changed the
name and the location. But yeah, a lot of what
goes on is based on, you know, these supposed psychic
experiments that were going on with these children at this base. Supposedly,
and according to the book, supposedly the Montalk projects stemmed

(38:12):
from the Philadelphia experiment. It was like a continuation of
that work. Like we talk about all the time, the
government never really shuts down a program. They just call
it something else and continue the work. But anyway, all
this was conducted, like you said, at the Montak Air
Force Station, which is also known as Camp Hero in Montok,
New York, which is like on the tip of Long Island.

(38:35):
Again popularized through this series of books by Preston Nichols.
He talks about how there's like mind control and weather
control and time travel experiments going on, and supposedly they
like even contacted extraterrestrials and exchange technology with them. But
this is kind of interesting, I thought. Supposedly, in nineteen
eighty three, this whole and like space time was ripped

(39:00):
open to nineteen forty three, and supposedly they were able
to like go back to the Philadelphia experiment and all
kinds of craziness. But in nineteen eighty three, a large
hairy creature supposedly came through one of these time tunnels
and like destroyed their labs and equipment and killed a
bunch of the scientists, and then the program was shut down.

(39:21):
So a lot of that is kind of where the
Stranger Things corolaries come through, like the demogorgan tearing up
the lab and all that kind of stuff. But anyway,
that's just a little bit of background about the Montalk Project. Again.
Tried to do an episode on this one a couple times,
and I just I couldn't make myself do it. So
I thought it was kind of fun to touch on

(39:42):
it with this episode.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, especially if you
said that you don't think there's a lot of bullshit
to the book, It's like, maybe it'd be fun to
try to dive through it and kind of break it
down a little bit. But I'm convinced that books like that, man,
that was probably the age of when they were starting
to test out the whole concept of obviously the Internet,
the concept of the Internet was already existing at that point.
They knew that inevitably it was going to become a problem,
So that may have been one of these first tests

(40:06):
of you know, releasing information with a bunch of other
bullshit tied to it, but also bringing it back into
the show. I'm pretty convinced that Stranger Things is one
of those shows that's intended to be I don't want
to say like soft disclosure, but I guess you could
kind of say it that way a matter of not
necessarily like bringing people to the fact of these concepts,

(40:26):
but also trying to explain the knowledge of how these
other realities could possibly function to people. It's like a
whole rabbit hole conspiracy. But I don't know if you've
dived into like the Francis Bacon thing linking with Shakespeare
and everything like that, and the rosicusions, But just to
kind of quick sum it up without getting into a
whole two hour spat about it, part of the whole
conspiracy theory was that or Kevin Bacon, Francis Bacon, yeah,

(40:52):
exactly was writing these stories and was trying to give
them to Shakespeare so that he could bring them to
the common man, because if he was the one writing them, like,
they wouldn't have the same push behind him, for like
the average.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Person, like Shakespeare wasn't even a real person. And this
is all basically just like an illusion and a pen
name made for Francis Bacon.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah. See, that's one of the theories. The other theory
is that he basically just took a random person and
basically said you're gonna be the person who puts the
face in front of all of my work. And so
the whole concept behind that was that getting into the
whole resecution aspect of things, they were trying to like
raise the intelligence level of the average person. So they
knew that they're going the average person isn't going to

(41:32):
go and read some like, you know, giant fucking scripture book.
They didn't even have the ability to really read back
then like that most people. But they could go and
watch a movie, a cheap movie at a theater because
they had like the penny seats and all that kind
of stuff, and they could actually start to expand their
mind into a more philosophical aspect of things. So obviously
times have changed, the whole philosophical aspect of things is
a little bit different as far as we're kind of

(41:53):
getting into this more sci fi future. But I think
Stranger Things is another example of something almost likely conspiracy
behind the Shakespeare that I think shows like this are
intended not just for soft disclosure, but to like start
bending people's minds into the concepts of how some of
these sci fi things could potentially work.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, I mean, at this point with things like the
Hadron Collider, and you know, us knowing more about string
theory and wormholes, people are kind of fucking trained. Oh
if some weird creature comes through this wormhole, We've seen
this in movies and on TV, and it's not going
to be this crazy ass concept. Kind of the same

(42:31):
way with like people said, like the sci fi movies
of like the fifties and sixties did with like aliens
and UFOs and things like that. So I mean it
kind of seems a motif were coming back to time
and time again. We're moving kind of away from as
a society the extraterrestrial idea and like little Green men

(42:52):
coming down in their spaceship and these more like other dimensions,
other planes, other realities type thing, and this could be
a step in kind of shifting that public perception from
extraterrestrials to ultraterrestrials, you know.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
And I mean that's universal across the table. Like I
was just listening to shout out to our big dumb mouth.
Really enjoy that show. But Midnight Mike was talking about
the new Sasquatch movie that just came out with like
David Politis and everything, and it seems like with most
of these big Sasquatch movies that are coming out now
it's not flesh and blood anymore. Like they're all talking
about this interdimensional concept. So it's like universal across the

(43:29):
board that if it's the paranormal, if it's extraterrestrials, if
it's Sasquatch, like, everything seems to be shifting over to
this interdimensional concept. And even within the Sasquatch community, I
know there's still always gonna be those diehard flesh and
blood people out there, but it seems like the majority
of the group is kind of getting more into this
interdimensional concept of Sasquatch, maybe not necessarily like coherently like

(43:51):
I have fucking superpowers, but more of like them stepping
in and out of reality just as like a natural
function that they do, and not like they have some
type of like you know, woo woo powers. It's just
a fourth dimensional being would go back and forth and
it would look like it was magic, but it's just
normal to them. You know.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, I think that's pretty much where I fall on
the whole sasas well most cryptids really is. Yeah, like
we've said about the moth Man, I don't necessarily think
this thing was like a harbinger of doom. I don't
necessarily think he was like trying to warn these people.
I think it was kind of just like this animal
that got stuck here, and I think Sasquatch is the

(44:31):
same way. Yeah, I don't necessarily think he has these
wo woo powers, but it is kind of like a
wo woo type situation that allows Sasquatch to be here.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I mean, that would completely explain why these things don't
seem to have changed all through time. Is maybe because
they're existing outside of time and they're stepping into time
and we're looking at it from a linear perspective, but
they're not linear, like you know, maybe one of the
Sasquatch sightings that happened in the fifties and one Sasquatch
sighting that happened recently, it's the same sasquatch. It was
within the same quote day. For them, it's just a
matter of their outside of our perspective. So it's just

(45:03):
step in, step out, and they're appearing at these different points.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, but yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
I mean, like I said, if you entertain these type
of thoughts, it clears up a lot of the critiques
and questions that most people have about cryptozoology, Oh, what
have we ever find found a carcass? And what do
these things eat? And what about their breeding population? Like
a lot of that stuff you don't have to worry

(45:27):
about at that point.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Also explains the blurry pictures. If their particles on a
molecular level are working totally different than ours. That's why
you can't capture a picture of these things is because
they're not something that exists in this reality, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, and I mean footprint trails disappear. Like you can
basically explain away most of the critiques of Bigfoot and
other cryptids if you just allow yourself, like I said,
to entertain the idea that there could be something just
legitimately bizarre going on.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I feel like that's more fathomable than actually they're being
woo woo powers, because it's seems like a lot of
the stuff that we've kind of discovered through time that
start off as woo woo, once we have an understanding
of it, it's not really woo anymore. And I know
I've said this a million times for sasquatch, but I
think all these woo powers are just a lot more natural.
But they're natural to this thing that we have no
idea or understanding of fully, so they look like it's

(46:18):
conducting magic, but it's not. It's just doing what it
naturally does.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Well, yeah, I mean that's like we talk about all
the time. If you know, somebody from one hundred years
ago was plopped down into our society with iPhones and
electric cars and whatever, they think we were all fucking wizards.
So I mean, one person's technology is another person's magic
or wo woo. So I mean makes perfect sense and
goes right along with a lot of things we talk
about on the show.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
And speaking of magic and wo woo, that's another great
transition into our next topic here. So I got to
play the transition music if it wants to play. Apparently
it doesn't want to play.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
All right, all time for another commercial break.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
And now back to letting your mind wonder. So this
is one of those really really weird stories that I
am absolutely shocked. I have not heard it in any
other podcast as far as like our realm of Thinking goes.
I ended up listening to, Uh, are you familiar with
David Chuck? The freak is that's something that pops up
over in your area, that radio show, I don't think,

(47:19):
so okay, So it's maybe like a Canadian slash Michigan
local thing, but anyway, it's just some local radio DJs.
They talk about weird, funny news stories and everything, but
this one totally went past all the community. So I
won't even give a preface. Just listen to this shit
and you're gonna be mind blown. All right, talk about
soft disclosures, since we were kind of getting into that
a bit earlier.

Speaker 8 (47:37):
So Tom Brady has said his dog Juny is a
clone of his family's old dog, a pit bull mix
who died in ball real.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
This was on my list of potential topics that I
wanted to talk about on the show, and I thought
it had been too long since it dropped to talk
about it. So I'm glad you did, the.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Dude, and I have not seen it pop up anywhere else,
Like I was like, oh, dude, I got to talk
about this before somebody else does, and nobody's brought it up.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I saw it on literally the front page of ESPN
dot com. Dude, like ESPN is reporting on this. So
I'll let you start the video over so our listeners
can see what we're actually talking about. But yes, front Page,
ESPN dot com reported on this.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Dude, and like I said, just a radio show talking
about this. Nobody in our communities talked about it, but
it just went right over, Like it seemed like nobody
even talked about this. Like I saw the story and
I haven't heard anybody mentioned it since. Just soft disclosure, man, Yeah,
I'll restart the video.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I'm so glad you did.

Speaker 8 (48:35):
Is a clone of his family's old dog, Lua, a
pitbull mix, who died in twenty twenty three. The cloning
was done by Colossal Biosciences, a biotech company Brady himself
invests in. Scientists collected a blood sample from his beloved
pit bull mix prior to her death. Brady said in
a Colossal press release. Colossal has been in the news
a lot. They're the startup that's working to de extinct
wooly mammoths revived the tasmia.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
I just want to throw this in, by the way,
that this video is from CNN also, but back into it.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yes, so these are like legitimate news sources reporting on
this shit. This is not hair brained schemes from weird
o's like us.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, this isn't like the Daily Enquirer or nothing like.
This is legit exactly year.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
Brady isn't the only celebrity who's cloned to pet. Paris
Hilton used a similar process to clone her Chihuahua Diamond Baby,
which went missing in twenty twenty two, into two puppies. Hilton,
by the way, is also an investor in Colossal. Pet
cloning has become increasingly popular among wealthy and high profile owners.
Barbas Streisan famously cloned her dog Samantha after she died
in twenty seventeen, and now has two dogs, Miss Violet

(49:35):
and Miss Scarlett, derived from Samantha's DNA, and Margo L. Pritzker,
a member of the billionaire Pritzker family, cloned her late
dog Jake. Animal welfare groups warned that cloning pats or
species isn't simply a miracle shortcut. Success rates remain low,
health problems are frequent, and what emerges is never truly
a duplicate of the original. Adoption, they say, remains the
more ethical route. The announcement about Juni came in tandem

(49:56):
with Colossal's announcement of its acquisition of Viagin, a company
that claims to be the global leader in animal cloning
for pets and horses, and the ones who cloned Hilton
and Pritzker's dogs. Another big name investor in Colossal is
the filmmaker Peter Jackson who did the Lord of the
Rings trilogy.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Tom Brady, dude, and then all these celebrities that are
just connected to this man, Like this is like an
underground network that nobody is talking about. Dude, all these
guys have cloned dogs, and what's the interest in that?
Why would all these people be investing? What's the next
step think about it?

Speaker 2 (50:26):
So I have so many thoughts about this. Yeah, like
you said, I mean, if this is out there in
the open and all these celebrities are cloning their pets.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Just soft disclosure, nonchalant like oh yeah, they just they.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Start cloning the sheep in like nineteen ninety five or whatever.
Like what level of this are we really at if
like they're straight up telling us this on ESPN and
CNN that they're doing this. So yeah, like you said,
these wealthy people are you know, looking for the fountain
of youth, like recloning themselves whatever, And what could possibly

(50:59):
go wrong? I mean it talked about in the video
how basically the same company is trying to de extinctly mammots.
I think we have a whole series of movies about
why that's probably not a good idea, but I'll still
go to the amusement park if they open one.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Just don't add frog genetics or anything else weird. Yeah,
if it has adaptive abilities, don't add it.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
This story is crazy to me, And like you said,
I can't believe that more people aren't talking about this.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Like I said, it's a matter of like soft disclosure,
Like they just push it out in so nonchalant, but
it's like you have one step and then there's a
second step. So, considering this came from all the main
news sources, it's the matter of soft disclosure. They're going
to talk about the aspect of the cloning company itself.
But I bet you if you start looking into it,
a lot of these people that are investing in these
dog cloning facilities are probably also investing in places that

(51:49):
are doing research into consciousness and possibly even some of
the ones that are doing those like dream helmets, where
they're able to like manipulate consciousness. Because I feel like
this is a two step part and if you really
start diving into these people. They're gonna be looking at
this cloning process, and they're going to be looking at
consciousness because the end intention, of course, is going to
be you have an empty clone and then you transfer
your consciousnessness over and you have the infinite you know,

(52:10):
fountain of youth. At that point you live forever. Yeah,
but I think it's just a step by step for
soft disclosure on this man, because this is gonna be
one of those things that you know, if you're rich,
your celebrity, you have full access to it, but the
rest of us, dude, will never have access to even
touch this stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
You know. I think I'm fine with that. I don't
like living that much.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Now.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
I'm not sure if I want to live forever.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Yeah, I don't think I would either. I mean, I
don't know if you get into I mean, depending on
how you kind of view the whole spiritual realm of things.
I feel like, no matter what pantheon you'd kind of
view that through, whether you're a Christian or whatever, you know,
I feel like that would be almost like breaking the
system or rigging the system. So in turn, you know,
you may not be going to the place that you
want to go after this endless, this cycle stops, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
At very very least, it's like playing god and messing
with nature at that point, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I mean you also have to take any consideration that
just because you can transfer your conscious and over to
something else doesn't take away the fact that there are
going to be some random events that happen. So, you know,
you break the cycle, you're out of the cycle, you
live through three life and then one day you get
hit by a car. What happens your consciousness after that? Man,
Because if there's a creator, you probably pissed him off
at that point.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Well, and what did the profit doctor Ian Malcolm say
is that you were too worried about whether you could
do something to worry about if you should and you're
like a kid who stumbled upon their dad's gun or whatever,
which is like my favorite line in the book.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
But life finds a way.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yep, that was a good one.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
But yeah, I want to make sure that we touch
base on this one, at least a little bit before uh, well,
I guess at this point, before I completely get swept
under the rug. But I'm personally gonna be keeping an
eye out for these little things because I kind of
want to put this together because I feel like this
is going to be a narrative that slowly gets spun
over the next couple of years until all of a sudden,
something big gets released.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, I'm so glad you brought that one up. Like
I said, I wanted to talk about it on the show.
I just thought it had been too long since the
story dropped. But yeah, that was a great discussion, So
thank you for bringing that one absolutely.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
So of course, as usual, we always have to have
our funny article at the end, so no different than
any other time. I definitely have one of those lined
up and ready for you guys. So all right, guys,
this is our last break, so hold on tight.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
And now back to the show.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I don't know if you had heard this story, but
somebody recently, semi recently, this was back in October blamed
a cryptid for a car crash. So I have a
local news story on this one and we can definitely
get into it. But driver blames crash on Chupacabra now
faces felony.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
Everybody knows you never go full retime.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah, this guy definitely went full retart. But getting into
the story, a Bedford man was arrested early Sunday morning
following a single vehicle crash that left his truck overturned
and led to charges of operating a vehicle while intoxicated.
Of course, the driver, Caleb M. Sours twenty one, reportedly
failed sobriety test, offered an unusual explanation for the wreck,

(55:02):
and of course you got to have this awesome mug
shot up of this individual. The incident occurred on October twelfth,
around one am, when Lawrence County Sheriff Department Department Deputy
See Pruitt, K Long and M Martin responded to a
crash near the intersection of Patton Hill Road and Vista Drive.
Dispatch advised the respondent deputies that a third party caller

(55:23):
reported a single vehicle crash involving a two thousand and
one Tan Chevy S ten that landed on its side
across the roadway. The caller also noted that the driver,
later identified as Caleb Sewers, seemed intoxicated and was attempting
to discourage the witness from calling nine to one one.
Of course it was the fucking Schupercabra man. It wasn't
mean what are you talking about? Upon arrival, Deputy Preuit

(55:47):
located Sours sitting on a limestone rock near the overturned vehicle.
When the deputy began speaking with Sours, he immediately detected
the odor of alcohol, noting the driver's eyes were glassy
and his speech was slurt. U. Sawers quickly admitted to
drinking and losing control of his truck while driving up
Patent Road. When Deputy Prud attempted to administer a field

(56:08):
sobriety test UH, Sowers was reportedly uncooperative. UH. The I
don't even know what that says, Affidative Affidavid states that
after being asked to look at the officer's eyes for
a check, Sowars failed to put his phone down.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
UH.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
When the deputy took his phone, Sowars grabbed it promptly.
Promptly the deputy to attempt to stand up.

Speaker 7 (56:29):
UH.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Sours then went to his knees and laid down. Deputies
Long and Prude had to roll Sours onto his stomach
and ordered in order to place his hands behind his
back before putting him in handcuffs.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
UH.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
While sitting him back on the rock, Sowers was advised
the deputy would check his eyes, to which Soars allegedly
reported that the deputy did not need to check his
eyes because he was drunk. He is a real straight shoot.
At least he's being honest, So you need to check
my eyes. Man, I'm drunk.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Everybody knows you never go full retire.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
And as I said, this guy definitely did that. Sowers
continued to refuse instruction and repeatedly interrupted Deputy Proot's attempt
to read his miranda rights because of course, you know,
if you can't hear the rights, you know nothing is irrelevant.
So if you just keep interrupting the officer, then you
don't read that. The rights read you, and that's what's
going to work in the court of law. Right. Deputy
Martin eventually read Sours his miranda rights and implied consent

(57:24):
advisement while he was secured in the patrol car. Sowers
stated that he understood his rights and agreed to a
blood draw. Sowers initially claimed that he had consumed three
shots around eleven PM at a field at a friend's house. However,
Deputy Martin noted that Sowers had previously told EMS staff
that he had been at a local bar, Shorty's. When confronted,
Sowers stated he thought he was at a friend's house.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Shorty was his friend.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Yeah, Shorty's my best friend. What are you talking about? Man?
Sowars was transported to you I Health Benefit Hospital for
medical clearance and blood.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Draw which think you skip the oh best part.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
When asked what caused him to crash the Affidavid note,
Sours stated that a cheop of cabra ran out in
front of him. When did we get ice cream? Sours
was transported to UI Health Bedford Hospital for medical clearance
and blood draw, which was used to confirm his blood
alcohol content. He was supposedly transported to or subsequently transported

(58:24):
to the Lawrence County Jail and booked on a felony
charge of operating a vehicle with a blood content level
of zero point five percent or greater. The vehicle was
towed from the scene. All individuals are presumed innocent until
proven guilty in the court of law. This article is
based on information blah blah blah blah blah. But at
no point, by the way, did the officers ever go
and actually look for a chep of cabra. Like I know,

(58:45):
this guy may have been intoxicated, but maybe there actually
was a chup ofcabra. Man, I'm just gonna throw that
one out there. I mean, this guy.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Was like, completely fucking honest about everything else.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
What I'm saying, I'm drunk as fucking a chup ofcabra
jumped out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If he's admitting
that he is drunk, maybe you should take some validity
into the fact that maybe this dude did see a
fucking chewp of copra.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Yeah, I'm lit. Yeah, I thought I was at my
friend's house and yeah, choop of copper ran out in
front of me. I mean, like I said, this guy's
a real straight shooter. I think we should believe him short.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
He is my friend. Man, he's not lying right, technically
he wasn't he was telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
I mean, I'm looking at this guy's mugshot.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
I'll bring it back up so I can see this
guy's mug.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
If I've ever seen anybody who looks like they drive
a Tan two thousand and one Chevrolet S ten, it
is this guy.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
And he definitely looks like he might see a chup
of capra In what state? Was this again?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Uh? Colado?

Speaker 6 (59:41):
Is that what?

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Yeah? Colorado? Yeah, which has there ever been any type
of a chup of copper sitting in Colorado. No, I'm
pretty sure that mainly stays to uh Texas and Mexico.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
But well there has been.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Now, Well, maybe he should have said Sasquatch. I think
he would have been a little bit better off with
that detail.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
No, Sasquatch is too mainstream, that's not But he had
to get like one of the weird emo cryptids, like Chepicabra.
That's a deep cut right there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yeah, sasquatch is too obvious. If I use that one,
they're gonna know one bullshit, and I gotta use one
that's off the wall. What am I gonna go with?
Fucking chupa Capra? I mean, in all fairness, though, if
you're driving a truck, I'm pretty sure you could probably
blast a choopocabro with no damage to your truck. So
maybe his best course of action would have been just
to plow straight through this motherfucker.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Probably, Like what actually happened was like a dog just
ran out in front of him, or a fox or something,
and this guy was just like so fucking out of
his mind.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Oh shit, Capra, it was a wolf with mange What do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
We always say in cryptid or alien sidings, a lot
of times the people aren't trying to do hoaxes and
they really believe what they saw. And I think Homeboy
really thought he saw a Cheopicapra.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
So I think when this guy gets out of jail,
somebody has to hit him up for an interview to
at least get his perspective from a podcaster's angle, because
maybe we can get a little bit more information to us.
We should. Yeah, we'll try to contact this guy. I
don't know when he's supposed to get out, but it
feels like he might be there for at least a
little bit. Maybe we can contact him next year around
October for the anniversary of his epic fail, and maybe

(01:01:09):
we can give him the opportunity to try to redeem
himself like they used to do on Toash point zero.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
We'll start like a GoFundMe for his bond.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
We need to have a conversation with this guy. He
needs to be redeemed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Justice for Caleb.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
And that Chupacabra because maybe he blasted that fucker. Somebody
should have went and checked my rest in peace Choopy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Justice for Choopy, all right, guys, and on that note,
you can catch our next live show of Bizarre Inquiries
on January eighth. That's again a Thursday. It'll be roughly
seven to fifteen Eastern Time on the Bizarre Reality Media.
See I'm starting to get the hangout the here Go
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(01:02:20):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
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And as usual, I have been the one that they
refer to as Shane aka the original Shane Squatch. And
alongside me, as usual, I have.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
The big bad boo Daddy who is one day going
to clone himself like Tom Brady's dog Orn Felix.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
And just like we tend to do on the show,
like we like to bring up things that are definitely
in that realm, we always stay bizarre. So just like us,
my friends, you guys should do the same and always
remain and stay bizarre.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Bizarre.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
So a bank bank is skid skid.

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
I am the lover. Everybody knows. You never go fook
each other.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Come here a little fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I don't like more ice cream?

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
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