Ep 150 Ayo Technology

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We like the boat, watch some movies and she taking notes.

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I am MO AKA kid licorice. And I'm.
Odie and together with other aforementioned nerds here on
episode 150 of the Black and Snurdy podcast. 150.
Yes it is because last week was 149.
That was your birthday episode. That was the birthday episode
yes. I feel like that should be like

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a 11149.5. This should be a that should be
a 148.5 because we weren't doinga regular episode.
I don't know. I feel like we got to do
something for 50. That's like, who knows?
Yeah, 151. Yeah, maybe.
I mean, we could crack off another 50 and do something

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special. Yeah, yeah, I had even I, I had
even updated the the notes. I'm not sure if you had noticed,
but I even updated the notes to say 150.
Yeah. So I wasn't sure if you had
noticed that or not. I didn't.
I did not notice that. OK, well, I did, but I didn't
process it 'cause I saw it at 1:50, but not that like it had

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like changed. Yeah.
So how are you doing? I'm doing well, a little bit
tired but it's been a long few days past few days and I'm
really hungry too. I'm hungry too.
Yeah, yeah. I was going to say, oh, I should

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order something. And then I was like, I don't
know, because I saw you eat the pizza.
So I was like, oh, maybe we don't.
We don't need to order anything.No, if you're hungry then then
you should vocalize that becauseI all I had was that one little
slice of pizza. Sorry, it didn't do anything for
me. OK, that's OK.

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Well, we could figure something out after this or during this
we. Could do it during.
Yes. All right, let's pause and do.
It OK, we could restart and we're back.
We figured out what our dinner is going to be.
Food is coming. Food is on the way.
What did we ended up getting? We got a seafood boil.

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Seafood boil. And may I add, because we got a
seafood boil, I'm so excited about this news that the new CEO
of Red Lobster, who is a Nigerian man who's like 3536,
his name is Damola Adamolokun, youngest CEO in the company's

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history. He's only 36.
Adamolokun. So Nyjah and they don't know
Nyjah. No, they carry last.
OK, but he's adding seafood boils and sangria flights it's
about. Time.
Because why haven't they had that?
It's it's I told you about that time when I forget.

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It might have been my 13th birthday, but I got my each of
my parents, including my stepdad, to take me to Red
Lobster on Friday, Saturday, andSunday.
My mom took me on Friday, my dadtook me on Sunday, and my
stepdad took me on on Saturday. Listen, those cheddar biscuits?
Unrivaled, OK? And I'm glad that they got this.

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Was back before I gave a fuck about the cheddar biscuit.
What were you? There for I was there for the
lobster tail. Yeah.
I, I literally was the, and, and, and this was back when, so
in my family, we didn't do leftovers.
Like you don't order anything that you can't eat at the, at
the restaurant because we don't do leftovers, right?

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And I made sure that I ate all of that lobster.
Tail. And I drank the butter.
Of course you did. And it was the most delicious
thing and I did it three times. 13 Lucky 13.
Lucky. 13 But you know what? I think that this just speaks to
the importance of having diversified and sometimes

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different blood in a space because having First of all, if
you don't know that Red Lobster is a part of black people's
culture, it does not matter how,whether you are regular Jew or
whether you're Beyoncé, you fucking love Red Lobster.
Everybody loves Red Lobster. The cheddar Bay biscuits, the
endless shrimp that they used tohave.
I, and I did, used to love theirfetish.

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Where's the lot? The fettuccine Alfredo with the
shrimp, but I stopped getting itbecause at a certain point I
think they started because we all know that this type of food
is microwaved like for the luck except for like.
Yeah, they nuke it. They nuke it.
Except for the lobsters where they're having to boil it.
Like that's the freshest thing you're going to get.
For the most part, yeah. But like, yeah, most of it is
microwaved high end Applebee's, but seafood.

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And like they, they started doing something where like
whenever I would get the Alfreduccini Alfredo, it would
have so much oil that I couldn'teat it.
So I just stopped getting it bad.
Have we ever gone to burgers andlobsters?
Yeah, we would remember. I I think I I.
Was that you and me? Are you doing that with you and
me? Yeah, I took you there for your
10 year anniversary of being in New York.

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You. Did you did take me there?
Yeah. We didn't get any lobster that
day. We did.
No burger. I think I, I have pictures from
it. We definitely got oysters and I
feel like we got oysters and lobster, a burger and a lobster
or something like burger or lobster on the burger.
Or something. OK.
All right, OK. So I would.
Love to go back I I would love to go back to Is it still there?

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Yeah, there's still like there'stwo locations.
OK. All right.
I would love to go back and try like other stuff but having Red
Lobster not like speaking to itslike base which is black people
and you know that my people loveseafood boils.
OK we love seafood, we love seafood and we always love
seafood boils. Yes we do.

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And having this young black man come and be like, let's add
these because you want to know why Barbara and Shirley are
going to be up here with their church group.
So are Babette and Shirley Anne.They're going to be there.
These names that you're coming up with?
Everyone's going to be there. Why not?
Bobbett. Yes.

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What? What nationality is Bobbett?
It's a Jamaican. Jamaican.
Oh, OK. Shelly Ann, you.
Didn't hear Shelly Ann. No I I heard Shelly Ann but.
They're definitely Caribbean. If you have a, if you have a ET
at this, if you meet somebody already with the ET or a aunt at
the end. They're Jeanette.
They're, they're Caribbean, Yeah.

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But no, like everybody wants to be there.
It's a great place. And I fucking love seafood boils
and I love those shrubberry biscuits.
So to be able to dip my my seafood boil into shrubberry
biscuit? Amazing.
That would be good and give me some more butter to drench
everything. Over with he did say that for a
while like the endless shrimp and stuff they cut the reason
they cut that out was because itwas like bankrupting the

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company. They well.
Yeah, they were people. Weren't going as much I guess.
They were. They were staying for the
endless shrimp. Like they were eating all of the
fucking shrimp. But I will say, like when I got
endless shrimp, I definitely wasonly eating like two or three
rounds of shrimp. I wasn't eating like.
Nah, we were. We were eating them under the
table like we were staying therefor the fucking shrimp.

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Like just but did you used to goto Hooters in downtown DC in
Chinetown? I went there a few times.
Do you know that they had wings Wednesday?
No, I didn't. You buy 1199 unloaded wings, so
we would come there with our Tupperware.
Wings under. The table so I'm sure people if
I was at endless shrimp, I'm going to bring a Tupperware and

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I'm putting freaking garlic butter shrimp and coconut.
No, we got it. You know, we have to do, we have
to do that and. They have a closer one to us, so
we. Could and there is, yes.
So we can eat will be fresh. Exactly.
We can get into an Uber and justget right over to the apartment.
I've seen that one and I actually do want to try it.
I want to try to remember, I told you, like following a

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child, the one that we'd want toin the city when I was younger.
Like the first time I went thereit felt so swanky, so sexy like.
Yeah, same here with the one that I went to in DC.
Like people are looking cute, like after work folks, but
they're used to looking nice andthen.
For my best polo shirt. I go there.
Those recent times I've gone there since I've been back from,

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you know, college. It's very touristy.
Like people are in there with like sweatpants and they're it's
like they're not trying to look cute, like you're spending a
good amount from food. You can try something like and
it's not even a cute tracksuit. Like it's not a Nike tracksuit
or something like you're wearingsomething mad BC.
You should dress up for just. Something just try a little bit
that location, but and then the it's so bright in there.

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I might just, it just feels likea very different vibe, which
obviously happens when things get too popular.
Yes. But this one, I feel like it
looks like it's, excuse me, it looks like it's back on its
little vibe and they have littlelunch specials and stuff, happy
hour specials, and it's close. So yeah.
That'll be fun to go to. OK.
And then also we should go to Outback Steak.

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Oh. Yes, there's one, I think in Bay
Ridge, there's one in Bay Ridge there's.
One at that place near the juicyCrab, red juicy Crab, which you
know that I was like, we gotta go back to.
Yes, yes. We also need to go shout out to
Josie. Shout out to you.
That was really good, but there's one also in the city

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right back 20 3rd St. on the FI.Didn't know that.
Yeah, that there's an Outback there.
Is there a Red Lobster? There's a well.
I mean there is a Red lobster inthe.
City, but you don't go to that Red Lobster.
Don't go that that. That might as well be Dallas BB
QS. Not even that that I'm sure
Dallas BB QS has a better healthrating than the and the Red
Lobster and the Olive Garden in Times Square.

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I, I tell because everyone that I've known, anyone I've ever
known who's worked there or known people, they're like do
not do it. If you've known anybody who
works in like the city government that does like helps
with the the inspectors or whatever they're like, do not
eat there. Yeah, don't eat at like the
fucking tourist trap of Times Square.

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The. Don't eat in times.
Square, I mean, it's more expensive and there are better
places if you were going to eat in Times Square that have tastes
better, probably less expensive and not nearly as like growdy
and gross because listen, I willbe that was BBQ eating those
freaking sticky wings. Okay, I love those wings. 1st
and those. Huge, huge Henny margaritas.

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I do like the Henny margaritas. I do like those big bowls, those
big ass bowls of of alcohol, yes, even though it is a little
watered down, it's not a strong.I feel like it used to be
strong. Because people used to be
having. But but then that would be
everybody turning up super hard.You know what?
You know people. People were.

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Getting into fights. You know what the Community
Center, the Dallas BBQ one was at 23rd, which I believe is
still there. Yeah.
That's where people used to always be, like, turning up,
like, yeah. Community Center, that's the
one. They stole my fucking
headphones, my Beats. Headphones.
That's surprising. Community Center is a place to
be but also lots of shenanigans all the time.

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But Oh my God imagine if Dallas BBQ had seafood bags.
Could you imagine? Well, how would that work?
Well, there's access. Yeah, but maybe they they're
texting you. Know, I mean if, if, if they
would have to turn into like a surf and turf type of.
Place. They do have seafood, don't you?
I mean, they have. They have fish, they have fried
fish and they have shrimp. Yeah, but that's that's like.

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But they were going to be all year round.
They're going to do special times if it's in the summertime.
If they were like, let's, we're going to be.
Where was the place that we wentfor my dad's birthday here in
New? York, I want to go back.
There I don't the food was good,but like they had the the fish
bones were like still in the themeal and those they're so small

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that if they get trapped in yourthroat that's true they.
Hurts. Because the lasagna was really
good, the. Lasagna was.
Really good that I think that that place is good for strictly
either steaks or pasta. Steaks or pasta?
I I like because I. Didn't think I can see that I
can see. That even though it probably

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would be good. Yeah.
Steak or pasta. Delicious.
That lasagna was, I mean. Sam was there, right?
No, Gavin was there, No. Sam was there too, right?
Not at that one. It was somewhere.
It was another one we went to that weekend.
That weekend, like, because my cousins were there, Sam was
there. We had dinner at the house,

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right, Dinner at Lasagna, but itwas just the four of us there.
There was something else. No.
Then we did something where it was a big group.
Yeah, but I don't remember whereit.
Was I? That's, that's the place that,
no, that's the place that I'm talking about where we did the
big group and Sam was there. That's the place with the fish
bones. And I think it was for my dad's

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birthday. I'll have to look look it up on
and see what pictures. Yeah, yeah.
At any rate. Are you ready to get into the
fuckery and shenanigans and chicanery?
You know I am. When you want a hot meal, we've
got a big deal. What are you going to pick pop
topics? All right, so let's just start

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off with the first thing now. Last week, the president's was
the president's birthday. I guess it was last week or a
week or so ago was the president's birthday.
We don't know what day it was. We don't talk about what day it
was. What?
Day it was it. Doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter. We're not going to talk about it

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because we don't recognize it. But he had.
I see why. OK.
He had a parade that he said wassupposed to only be about like
our troops. Yeah, it's supposed to be like a
show, a celebration of the military.
Yes. And so this is it showing OK is

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a. Showing it was sparsely
attended. They were actually, I saw.
Now, of course, the things couldalways be, they can always be
fabricated. But there was a a post on

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Craigslist that alleged that they were looking for people to
come in, like be in attendance. Yeah, but $80 million for this
is really like? My question is, where did the
money go? What did the money go towards?
Things. Security but like but but do you

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know how like the how much? So then my question is, how much
does the New York Marathon cost?Probably around the scene.
Because the New York Marathon had more people coming out to it
than this showing. The thing is that for for a
president who is talking about he wants to stop wasting money

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and we need to cut all these services USA Job Corps,
etcetera, etcetera. You're wasting money having a.
Not to say I understand. Well, despots need the attention
on their birthday. Like, I love my birthday, right?
I I, if I had $80 million to spend, I would imagine I

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wouldn't spend $80 million on mybirthday, but.
You would, but you absolutely would spend $80 million on your
birthday. If I had the money to like shut
down a whole block in Brooklyn and we're having this whole
party on this whole block and I could have food, I could have
music, I could have all this stuff, I could have different

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outfits for the day and all that, I for sure.
Would it, would it like $20 million of it would go towards
the different outfits? Probably, but I let us say that
you can't go all out for your birthday, but for.
Another 20 million would go towards food well.
Of course. Food, food and liquor.
Yeah, because you need to have good food.
You have to have 20 million would go to food, 10 million

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would go to liquor. Yeah, more more importantly,
feel free. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know I got to have a delicious meal and a sweet treat
after. Side side note, you know that
Danny is bringing like the drinks from here to there.
Oh. It's probably less expensive.
We should bring something. That's what my cousin did for

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her wedding. But, but we'd have to check our
bag then because we can't, I mean, we wouldn't be able to
bring it on the plane. Got it, 'cause we didn't.
We bought one. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're saying. Yeah, but makes sense because
that's we did that like we my cousin for her wedding, she it
was like they got some alcohol there.

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But one, it's more expensive because you have to import it 2
they don't have access to all the stuff.
So we everybody was like. Brought bringing like bringing
like a thing of of some some kind.
That's why when you have an openbar at a wedding compared to a
cash bar, people get mad when you have a cash bar or dry wet.
I know I do. It's expensive.

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It is expensive. That's why when it's like we
might have, you know, they mightdo something like half price
drinks or whatever like that, but half an over the bar 'cause
I remember with my sister, like they were had to put more, they
had put a certain amount and then they had to add to it and
it was just like, that was a a good point.
But I'm thinking. So I'm thinking, here's what I'm

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thinking. I'm thinking that what they like
you said like they're, they're bringing stuff over, they're
bringing alcohol over from here to there constantly, like going
back and forth leading up to theday so that it can be open bar.
Yeah. Well, yeah, probably.
Yeah. So that that way it's like they

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have all this stuff so you're not having to like go and get
it. Yeah, because like my question
and I should have asked her this.
I'm like, are you bringing Titos?
I'm sure there'll be some good looks for you.
No, I'm. I'm sure there will be.
I I I don't. Yeah.
You like rum. I do.
I do like rum. I do like rum.

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Rum doesn't sit well with me. It like it.
It it turns too much into sugar.Well, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's, I mean, that's whyI I stick to vodka.
Well, whiskey. You think they'll have whiskey?
Maybe. Yeah, You think they'll have
whiskey? Like whiskey's a pretty popular
drink. I don't know about Caribbean

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though. It depends 'cause I feel like a
lot of Jack Daniels is a popularlike Jack and Coke I think.
Sure, sure. You're absolutely right.
Popular because we were at that.We were at that place for
Juneteenth and they had those thimbles of Jack and Cokes and
those plastic, small ass plasticcups, she says.

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Thimbles. They are.
They were. So they were.
They were. They basically were Dixie cups.
Yeah, they were little Dixie cups, other ones compared to the
rum punch cups. Yeah.
I was so pissed off. I'm like, what is going on?
And that's why I was glad I didn't pay for that last round.
Oh well, ohh, it's too busy, youcan't take my car.

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And I had my car out too. I was like ohh, you, you too
busy, can't take my car. I do, I feel.
Like that's one of those places I wanna go back to for
accepting. Yeah, I wanna go back there so I
could steal from them. No, because they had their happy
hour was good because it was 8 hour $8 drinks and those chicken
wings were. But they weren't.
But the yes, the chicken wings were good, but the chicken wings

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weren't a part of the happy hour, remember?
But the only because of that day.
But outside of that they they would have.
Had I'm sure I'm sure it would be good.
I'm sure it would be good. But we got on on a side trip.
Trump's birthday was not nearly as fun as my birthday was.
Yeah. Or his day for the troops.

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And anyway, that's stupid for that to be a day for the troops,
because we just had Memorial Dayand we have Veteran's Day, the
day for the. Troops.
One could argue that you never can skimp on celebrating the
troops. No, of course, and I do, and I
have said this for many years. June 14th is the most patriotic

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day because it's Flag Day, and if you do not know about Flag
Day, you should look it up, OK? It commemorates the adoption of
our flag, all right, And that's very.
Patriotic. I would say that's when we top
10 patriotic days. I don't know about the most

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whatever in American. History.
It was first proposed in 1861 torally support for the Union side
of the American Civil War. OK, so history, baby.
That's all I'm going to say. And, and I recognize that's my
birthday. It's the only birthday we
recognize being the Harriet Beecher Show and a few others.

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But I don't have any problem having that be a day.
But like also don't try to don'ttry to pretend like that.
It's that's just a day because it's random AF.
He just came up with it and thenhe didn't even plan it
accordingly. Like how you having a birthday
party and nobody shows up. I know he was embarrassed.
I know he was. If one person doesn't come for
my birthday, I'm like, oh, they hate me.

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So imagine all those folks, all those empty seats, couldn't even
pay for seat billers. Well, weren't there protests all
around the people? I mean, people have.
Been protest all around, but there was specific protests
going on that. Day.
Yeah, there were protests there,definitely.
All over in like New York and California and, and in Atlanta

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and the DMV and stuff like that,they were protests all over like
because there was like no kings,no kings.
Yes, because we saw a bunch of them.
There was a lot of No Kings protests around, so listen.
Saw saw a bunch of old whites. But because nobody we did,
because nobody went to his party, he decided to retaliate

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in a very specific way by bombing Iran, He tweeted this
past this weekend, yesterday. Or was it the what's say Sunday,
yesterday or Saturday? We have completed our very
successful attack on three nuclear sites in Iran, including

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Fardo, Natanz, Ashfaan. All planes are now outside of
our Iran airspace. A full payload of bombs and
capital was dropped on the primary site for DAO.
All planes are safely on their way home.
Congratulations to our Great American warriors.
There's not another military in the world that could have done
this. Now is the time for peace, which

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is the most ridiculous. That's the most.
Is it is it irony? Thank you for your attention to
this matter. Yeah.
I mean, perhaps. I mean, this is like when you.
Drop when you drop bombs. And then you say this.
Is the time for peace. Who?
Who's peace? Not mine.

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Not any of ours. Yeah, and the thing about.
And now we're in a war and. They they're not even calling it
a war, they're calling it a conflict.
The same way that they might as well just call it a kerfuffle.
The Vietnam. If they're downplaying it that
much. But that's like what I've been
that's what how you know, news outlets have been saying it.
Because The thing is, you're noteven without an act of Congress

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and approved by Congress, you'renot allowed to start a war.
You're not allowed to drop bombs.
Somebody called Bush did. Well, somebody called him the
two Timu ass Bush. This is the Timu ass Bush
administration and it's like, you know, we know why you are
bombing Iran. We know that it has nothing to

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do with safety because they're this is a payback because after
Israel has been bombing Iran forsome time and all the obviously
neighboring parts of that world,Iran bombed back.
Everybody was up in arms about it.
And it's like, The thing is, nobody, I never rejoice in

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anybody being bombed because at the end of the day, it's not
that you're Israeli government being bombed, it's the Israeli
people. And there, even though there are
a lot of people there who are supporting genocide, there are
also people there that are not. So anyway, bombing people is not
something where I'm like, oh, yes, this is amazing.
But you have been bombing peopleall over the place.

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You've been bombing this countryand they've made a retaliatory
remark. And now it's like, oh, we've
been, we're the victims. And so like we were, people were
waiting to see because obviouslythe Netanyahu was calling on
Trump to help out or whatever. And we were, people were
wondering what if what's going to happen?

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All this stuff. And now here we are.
And even though after Israel bombed Iran, the I forgot it's
the Iran Iranian government posted on Twitter like everybody
is going to feel it or whatever.Sure.
And so obviously because Americans, we have no chill.

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And most of us millennials, likewe literally watched, have been
watching war on live TV since wewere.
Yeah, since. We were like.
Oh, since we were children and 911 had.
Not even before 9/11 because theDesert Storm was when we were
younger, because I remember being like 5 or 6, my mom being
upset like watching television because she.

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Was I think my family skipped desert score.
Because we would be watching thenews and my mom, she was so she
was so like upset about it, watching this fighting and this
bombing on the, this land where she, it's like, you know, the
same thing. It's not just the government
people who are being harmed. It's the civilians.

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And I remember her distinctly saying like, I didn't want you
to be born to a world like this because she had watched Vietnam
and that was so traumatic for her coming home and seeing
bodies on TV And like, you know,that was a lot.
So she I remember being very little and seeing these things
and watching the like scopes in black and white or whatever

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green and it being like not understanding but not
understanding enough to know like this was bad.
And then being worried about what was going to happen in the
future. And then of course, 911 and all
the other things that we've had to deal with.
So it's like we have had no chill with our tweets about
like, you know, the post of likewe about to be in a war like

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Iran. Just let you know we not a part
of it like. And it's not they not like us.
They not like us, which is true because it's like it's not we
are not agreeing to any of thesethings, but we the civilians
like like the people in the Middle East have no say in
what's happening. But it's also fucked up because
at the end of the day, as much as we, America, are worried that

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there's going to be like military action on our shores,
the likelihood of that is low. It's not as low, it's not a
zero. It's never a zero.
It's never a 0. But the thing about it is,
there's a reason why America hasnot had fighting on our shores
in sense. What was that the war of was it

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the War of 1812? I believe because after the
civil war then it was the war between the French and Indian
war. Like those were like the last
ones because one when after after the Europe stopped
fighting was us here. There was World War One, there
was World War 2. And even if we did we had to go

(29:13):
over there and fight. There's like, again, another
reason why Americans are so gungho to go to war is because we've
had such a long time of not having people on our shores
because we're so far away. Nothing on American soil.
That's why we are always like, oh, let's go to war.
And Europe is always like, wait,we know what it's like to have
our cities demolished. And so it's not to say that it's

(29:37):
not possible, but it's not like as high as people might be
worried about. But the people who are going to
feel it are the people, the women and children and men and
grandparents and all those who are in the Middle East who are
going to be again, bombed or arecurrently being bombed by

(30:00):
American drones and bombs and guns, etcetera, outside of the
ones we've been providing to Israel.
And that's the part that's really fucked up because people
like we see what the we have this quote, the migrant crisis,
but nobody ever wants to talk about why there's a crisis.
Why are there people fleeing from their country to come to

(30:23):
where we are? Because we are the ones that are
making these places unstable. Trump is talking about wanting
to get a new government in Tehran because they want the
leader to step down. And it's like we as us who were
children when 911 happened, watch the Iraq war, Afghanistan,

(30:43):
all this stuff, like seeing how what happens when you try to
forcibly remove a leader and then put back someone who's
allegedly better, but they're not really better.
They're just a part of American interests.
It never bodes well for that area of the world, right?
And it's like, if you don't wantpeople complain about all these

(31:06):
different groups that have popped up, whether it was ISIS,
the Taliban, Boko Haram, all these various cartels and gangs,
etcetera. But what do you think happens
when you come over and start fucking with a country that is
not yours? Who do you think those people
are going to want to blame later?

(31:27):
So we may not feel it now, but like, what about 30 years from
now when someone's child who watched their parent get blown
up going to the fucking market? Now they're upset.
Now they're going to try to get vengeance, which can't even say.
I don't understand why they would want to do that.
Yeah. Because this shit's fucked up.

(31:48):
And we are. We as Americans are always like
stuck in the middle because we don't have any control of our
government and our fucking Congress.
These Democrats are fucking not doing their.
Job super duper pushovers. All they're doing is writing
strongly worded tweets, Yeah, and meming, meming people.

(32:08):
And not to say I don't enjoy thefucking memes.
They're funny. They're.
Yeah, the memes are fucking hilarious.
And stuff like that, but like. What happened?
What happened? Remember the hope that we had
for AOC? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we had hope for AOC, we had hope for Bernie, we had hope
for Kamala. I mean, at the end of the day,
like nobody should. That's why people constantly

(32:30):
have been telling us, do not make any politician the
celebrity that you like 'cause you're not supposed to like a
politician. It is they're doing a job.
You can respect the job they aredoing and make sure that they
are keep doing that job. But at the end of the day, like

(32:52):
this is not about being your bestie, you know, I would hope
that we could have a politician who we could feel like.
Confident in. Confident in, connected to and I
don't even mind being like, you know what?
They could be. They could be cool.
Charming. And you know, like, what's his
name? Is that Ron?

(33:13):
Mama, Mama Nanny hopes in your right like him running for
mayor, watching him campaign, seeing the things he does like.
I look at him and I'm like, you know what this guy seems from
his politics of things he's doneto see how he's reaching out to
communities that he actually cares.
I like that about him. But at the end of the day, I
can't like that about him more than I will be holding him

(33:35):
accountable. Like if he gets into the mayoral
mayoral race and the. Sure, Yeah, sure.
And so I just, I'm, I'm, I'm just praying for all those
people who are there because in the Middle East, they've, we
already know so many things havebeen going on there that are

(33:56):
just horrible and terrible. And I hope that our, our troops
that are over there, you know, are doing OK.
You know, I, we have so many people who are kids who are over
there, you know, young people who are going over and trying to
just like secure their life. But then it's like you're I

(34:18):
don't want you dying for nothingor being harmed for nothing, you
know? Right, Right, right.
And it's just like us having lived through it really so
recently, you know, like we were, that's what, 20?
Is it 30 years now? Yeah, No 'cause we're 3536.
It's about 20 something years. Yeah, about 20s.

(34:38):
And thinking that like Dang, we have to do this again.
Like we didn't learn from beforewe watched the.
History repeats itself. We never learn.
It does. No one ever fucking learns.
But The thing is, is like. I think the problem is that.
That's why we fucking ended up with Trump as a president again
'cause nobody learned any lessons from his first.

(35:00):
It used to be that. Like term?
Term. Yeah.
It used to be that like we wouldhave a longer time in between
the learning, you know, like we would actually make a little bit
of progress and I. We know too much now.
We know too much now to to in that all of it is truncated.
That even. We, we, we've been given tools

(35:23):
like Internet and social media to have the knowledge to be able
to connect to different places all throughout the world and to
get information at like a lightning speed to the point
where now everything is truncated.
Like, like even the, the, the, the stuff that happens like

(35:46):
it's, it's all, it's all like coming on faster.
Yeah, but. That's the, I mean, that brings
me to what I want to talk about next of like when we think about
technology, like, you know how they said between like the car
and it was like a several 100 years between like what was it

(36:07):
the car and like a phone or I don't know, something like that.
Like technology used to be like such a long timeline between
when someone found fire, when wehad a wheel, when someone made
like a printing press. Yeah, these things were huge,
major things, but they were usually like a few a century or
so between the two. But now if you think about like,

(36:33):
yeah, we've had, we've had the Internet since I think it was
like the 60s or so in the in, inwhatever form the Internet's
had. We've had it for quite a while.
Yeah, but thinking of like when people started getting it in
like the 80s, nineties, Yeah. To.
Now when the Internet became widely available on a consumer
basis. Exactly like it's, it's really

(36:54):
blossomed. It ramped up in the 80s and 90s.
Because you know, like I've saidthis on the podcast before for
my teachers would always say theInternet is like the wild, Wild
West. Well, there's no oversight,
there's no nothing. It's something where it's like
it can be useful, but you also have to be mindful of it.
But because, but well, not a butt.

(37:15):
And because of that, now everyone has access.
And that access has come with people able to, like, create new
and amazing things for the Internet.
Like we have apps, we have, you know, search engines, we have
all these different tools and resources, but we still don't

(37:38):
have any oversight to make sure that things are happening
correctly. And that kind of makes me think
about the way that we have people like Elon Musk who is
making rockets and playing them up in the air and then.

(38:03):
Brother, this guy stinks. On.
Yeah, sorry. On last week Wednesday, one of
his SpaceX models rockets experienced a major anomaly
while it was being tested for the 10th at for the 10th flight

(38:24):
test at the Star base in Texas and it blew up.
Thankfully, they said that all the personnel are safe and
accounted for. But like even the rocket
breaking apart is not good. And this happened recently in

(38:45):
January, there was debris comingover the Caribbean.
I think again, another one brokeup in May 40, May 27th, May
27th, and The thing is 1. You might think that and
breaking up to the ocean is no big deal, but we already know
we're having issues with the ocean.

(39:05):
There's pollution in there, there's overfishing, coral reef
and stuff are dying. That is not healthy to have
random rocket stuff and all of the chemicals and things that
are in them going into the oceanimpacting these Caribbean
islands who are already at risk with climate change and their
and their their surroundings being impacted.

(39:27):
But also, what if that shit falls on somebody?
What in the ocean? If it may not because it's it's
not may not go all the way over the ocean, it's going over these
Caribbean. Islands, islands.
I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.
I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah.
It's just reckless. Is it be just like Nope,
remember and Nope where he gets impaled by like a coin or

(39:51):
something because like stuff wasgood the.
Coins were falling from the the monster's mouth or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that.
But that's the thing. It's like you having this is
not, you're not actually showinganyone that you have safe
practices with this technology that you are using.
And you're creating a lot of pollution, both pollution in the

(40:15):
air and pollution in the water. Yes.
That could be harming our society.
If you have your own bunker or rocket you're going to fly to
Mars or whatever bullshit, cool,great for you.
The rest of us don't have that and we need to have clear skies
and clear oceans for us to work like this is.

(40:38):
It's insanity that they are allowed to do these things and
just wasting money. It is a waste of money.
How many people could you have fed and housed with the money
that you used for this bullshit?And it makes me like, I remember
I told you how when I was reading Octavia Butler's Parable

(40:58):
of the Sower, that gave me so much like, it was like traumatic
experience. Yeah, because take a shot.
By the way, she's mentioned Parable of the Sower.
That's now a new thing. Like anytime she mentions
Parable of the Sower. So take a shot.
It's true to life, but one of the key plots of the of the.

(41:19):
Of the book. Book is that like the government
there? So all these people who are
trying to do these space programs and they're spending
all this money to go to space, but all it's doing is creating
all this space garbage. You already have too much space
junk, space junk. They're wasting more money.
They're not even doing anything.And the the programs aren't like

(41:41):
run efficiently, etcetera. And this makes me think of these
like the why Bill? Well, Bill Gates, well, Bill
Gates, who knows, he might have a rocket somewhere.
Elon Musk and what's his name from Amazon?
Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos.
Should not allow be allowed in my personal opinion to build
rockets. Like I understand that we can't

(42:04):
like you know, we have a whole bunch of car, you know, creators
and all that, but that is different than creating a
rocket. Like create better cars cause
your ones, you have the things that y'all have that you have.
That cyber truck is ugly as shit.
It's. Not even this ugly.
He's blowing up. Oh, and, and I mean, that's
it's. Not a well made.
Car. It's not a well made car like

(42:25):
say that. There aren't some people who
really enjoy. It it looks like the Batmobile
from Dark Knight. It does, but uglier and more
angular and jagged like. I personally feel like it
probably might be an OK car. I've driven in one before or
whatever. Like it's not like I felt like,
oh, this is a terrible car to bein, but I it just has it has

(42:49):
issues that need to be fixed andto be.
Personally, if I was buying an electric car, I'm buying a
different car that has nothing to do with Tesla.
Tesla, I would get one from a a company that has been around for
a while, like Lexus has one. BMW has one like this, so many
different ones that you know, like this is they have had cars
for all these generations, triedand true manufacturer.

(43:12):
Get it. I'll get it from there.
Because Tesla, you have all these cars blowing up.
You're not showing me anything about your car making skills
that says like yes, just like Boeing.
I don't want to be in a Boeing. And it's like they're all over
the place. We need to have more people
doing better things in transportation.
And I feel like if they would put their money all together to

(43:35):
actually put in towards these things, that we can have a
better intercontinental flight system, better trains, better
cars, but all this stuff. But you're just trying to speed
your ego. We should put money into the
subway systems. Yes.
What mass transit? Needs mass transit because like

(43:56):
it's it's insane to me that likeas many issues occur on a daily
basis as it does, you know what I mean?
Like it and it's and it's and it's like it's not just mother
fuckers jumping out in front of.No.
Trains and getting killed and stuff like that.

(44:17):
Well, I mean, hold on there, there very much happen, not that
often, but like it is like signal issues, it's switch
issues, it's door issues on trains like trains are having
having door issues all the time.Issues, cleanliness issues,

(44:39):
there's dark spots. They just put their art issues,
they just put the article out about how the trains, a lot of
them are in the dark in the stations because these tunnels
have not been upgraded. Hot cars.
Cars. Cold cars.
Cold cars. Cars.
Dirty cars. This is Doctor Seuss novel.

(44:59):
Yeah. And we don't have a high speed
transit system that goes across the country as we should, as so
many other countries do. Yeah.
And we are not investing in whatwe need to invest.
We're only investing in things that are feeding people's ego
and not the American people. And even though like the
founding fathers, like when you are learning about them, there's

(45:24):
a lot of shit that they did thatwas obviously like terrible,
right? But one thing I will say is they
did have the best like when creating a country, their ideals
of what it was to be a country, taking out how they felt about
non white people and women. But like what they felt like the
country should be. I do feel like they felt they

(45:45):
had a good basis of idea, which is why George Washington was
like, we need to keep building on this country and not be
stagnant, etcetera, etcetera. That's why you want to teach
them how to say goodbye. But those things like they were
shitty ass people. I did, I did.

(46:07):
He did have teeth from his enslaved servants that were on
his plantation. And also he wanted the best for
this country. So it's like there are things
that we can throw away from themthat we have what nothing to do
with. And there are things that you
can at least take a mindfulness of.

(46:28):
And I feel like now the people who are in power, they're just
like they're, it's like they're racist.
They're sexist and bigoted and all over.
And they also have no respect for the country.
What? It's like damn, pick a struggle.
You can't be all these things. Either pick your country or pick
not being a bigot. You can't be both.

(46:53):
End. I mean isn't, but is.
I would argue that that's a partof the American way is to to be
all all things, not duality, plurality, polyality like to be
to be all things all at. Once.
To be Everything, Everywhere, all at once.

(47:13):
America is a hypocrite like we've always been hypocritical,
Yeah, which is something. That we can have our cake and
eat it too. Talked about, but I.
We could be at war but still be talking about peace and shit,
yeah. Well.
Yeah. Speaking of Tesla and Elon Musk,

(47:36):
there's something very disturbing that I found out
recently regarding Grok the AI that is on Twitter.
So I want to talk more about AI,but I recently came across folks

(47:58):
who were talking about the Grok.I think it was Ashley, my friend
Ashley Reese was talking about Grok, like taking people,
telling Grok to take people's clothes off.
And I was like, what? Like I've never, I never even

(48:18):
knew that was possible. I knew I see it all the time.
It'll be like people would ask it to summarize what happened or
tell them the contacts etcetera,but apparently people are using
it for nefarious purposes and like right after.
No matter what, any sort of justsorry, I didn't mean to cut you

(48:39):
off, but like any sort of new technology will always be used
at some point, whether it be in the beginning or whether it be
sometime in the middle for porn reasons for perverted sexual
deviance. Not deviance because I'm not

(49:00):
trying to king chain anybody, but.
Some of it is deviance when you talk.
There's deviance when it's like you're doing something negative
that's harming someone. Even remember in the Black
Mirror episode of the Starship, what is it?
Callister. Callister.
Yeah, that the device Callister.Yeah.
That created the clones. The reason why it was banned was

(49:22):
because. People were using it for using.
It to porn but like for porn andto hurt them.
So you could think that they're probably R wording them and
otherwise abusing them in these things.
But I saw after I saw Ashley's post, then I guess because I
liked it, I started getting these other posts that were

(49:43):
related to it. Now trigger warning warning.
This is something that I saw andso this person said give her
puppy eyes, then splatter glue all over her face, dripping all

(50:05):
over her face while sticking hertongue out with a visible
pinkish blush spreading throughout her face primarily in
her cheek area. And it is a woman who someone
took her picture and I think I think this might be her.
They took her picture and put glue quote UN quote, but it's

(50:30):
not glue. They were obviously like they
didn't mean glue. Yeah, like they it looks like.
Human glue. Yes, and that's what the picture
looks like. And so she even wrote
underneath, I know it's the Internet and people can edit or
do stuff like this, blah, blah, blah.
I am more concerned with the fact it's official XAI making

(50:53):
suggestive content of my face. And so she actually, some, she
posted or somebody posted that you can basically go into grok,
turn off, allow your public dataas well as interactions, inputs
and results with Grok and XAI tobe used for training and fine

(51:14):
tuning. Turn that off, turn off allow to
personalize your experience. Turn off allow to remember your
conversations. I'm pretty sure I did that
before. But if you haven't done that,
just remember to go in, change your settings.
We know that folks have been talking about the issue with

(51:35):
this when it comes to like childinappropriate images of
children. Sure, inappropriate images of
adults as well. But like the children part is
also really scary that someone could take your picture child's
picture, which is another reasonwhy it's like annoying now
because you can't put your kids necessarily on social media

(51:57):
because you could be. Because the Internet, the
Internet remembers like, so sorry, like one of my friends,
one of my comedy friends, I'm not going to say their name.
For a short period of time, theydid some only fan stuff.
But then they went to college and decided that they wanted to

(52:22):
pursue a career a a specific career.
And so they deleted their only fans.
Right. Today I found out that if you
just Google whatever their name was, yeah, there they they
there's a website of just like the leaked images, Yeah, of of

(52:45):
that only fans account. So like, that's what I say.
Like the Internet remembers. There's something that I found
out on TikTok this week. It's a website.
And yeah, I will say the website, I don't know, it's
apparent just so that people could be warned.
It's called Mega Links and apparently it's not something

(53:08):
that is, is is made for negativity, but it's a place
where you can store links and things and it's encrypted like
no one can get in there, etcetera.
But because I was on TikTok scrolling and there's this group
of people that basically try to do that bait of remember that
show to Catch a Predator. It's basically like people have

(53:30):
been doing that on their own. So this guy set up this whole
thing with this other guy, he confronted him, they're talking
and basically, I guess the guy was trying to allegedly meet up
with like a 13 year old, all this stuff.
And he asked him like, well, whyhe doesn't have, why does he
have mega links on his phone? And then I was like, I never

(53:50):
heard of that. And I went in the comments and
then people were talking about how when you see this website on
people's phone or this app that it usually means that they might
have some discussing things. Now, who knows if anybody could
be using this for anything. The same way with Only Fans
doesn't mean that you're doing adult work, but it's just

(54:15):
something to be mindful of. Because I saw that like I went
and searched on Twitter because they were saying that's where
you'll find a lot of the posts and people will have like posts
about kids and things like that.And so I went to because I
couldn't find it on Twitter or on Google.
Be careful what you're searching.
I know I didn't. I just searched because The

(54:36):
thing is the megalinks, because there was so many different
things. A lot of it that was coming up
was just I saw like search of regular porn.
But then I saw one post that it didn't have any video or
anything on there, but someone had put hashtag boys and that
made me think could they could they don't have a video here,

(54:58):
they don't have anything pictures, but that could be that
they have something that is inappropriate and.
Illegal I still say like definitely be careful in even
doing that little bit of research and stuff because
that's how you ass ends up beingNo let's true.
You got to be careful, but also I think for parents, it's

(55:19):
important for them to know thesethings because you never know
where your kids are going to be going online and you never know
where their pictures are going to end up.
And you like you don't. Now that we know that there's
another site, this, this is a new site that people are using.
That's not even like a dark website where things used to be
everywhere that people are using'cause I would have never, I'd

(55:41):
never heard of this site except for this TikTok.
And then I was like, you know, with TikTok, you never know.
Usually it could be happening. You could be fake, but they were
saying that what will happen is like on Twitter, that people
will post up these links and putthese hashtags, but then Elon is
not putting anything in place tostop them.

(56:01):
And all they'll do is like, theymight delete it, but then they
can just come back and be a new.It's so crazy to think that
Twitter used to be like, actually an honorable place.
Yeah, because they used to have their they used to have that
sensitivity warning. Whatever happened to this?

(56:23):
I still. Have it, but it's not.
But not really. But it's not nearly as much.
Not, not for some of the shit that pops up on my fucking.
I mean, now I will say. Not my timeline but like some of
the I search some stuff. But even when you're sure,
remember the other day when I was just searching something?
I was searching about the the crash, the boat crash and there

(56:46):
was this man's freaking gross thing hanging out.
Oh. Yeah, his penis.
So it's like anytime you search something, it doesn't matter.
You're always gonna get something fucking, saying chew,
dye or whatever. And it's not to say there's
anything wrong with there being porn on Twitter, but I do feel
like there has been a push for the porn and not and like having

(57:07):
everybody be validated and everybody be verified or
whatever. And you can't even trust who the
real news are, who real people are.
There's all these AI bots and things like that who have bots
have always been there. Bots are not new, but they've
been ramped up. And a lot of these bots are
putting these gross things onto these sites and nobody's doing
anything right. And like, we need, we really

(57:30):
need to have oversight with the Internet because the end just
technology in general, because nobody is really addressing the
fact that people can be getting harmed by us being so obsessed

(57:53):
with the Internet. And I think I, I told talked to
you about this, that the India Ndouble ACP has filed intent to
sue Elon Musk's artificial intent artificial intelligence
company over air pollution from a Memphis super supercomputer.
And it's because it's in a, a majority black area.

(58:17):
And we already know that majority black, brown, low
income etcetera areas, yeah, usually other places they put
any kind of. Like destructive.
Yeah, thing, yeah, if you're poor and if you're not white and
if you're both, you're probably going to get some sort of weird

(58:37):
plant that's going to cause gross and have people looking
like the oblongs. Oblong.
In the area. And so now like people are
fighting against it and it's like nobody is saying we need to
take a step back because we knowthat the AI implications are can

(58:59):
be serious. They use a lot of water.
It creates a lot of extra pollution and energy
consumption. We are having people who are in
who have been coming out in, I know for sure in Kenya, in
Nigeria, any of the places in America as well, like across the
world, especially the global S where you'll have these like AI

(59:23):
super centers where people are talking about the way that
they're doing the work for you and getting paid like, you know,
$15 a day or it's like a sweatshop.
But for technology and all that stuff that they have to do and
all the work that they're putting in to translate stuff
for you and all these things like it's using up water and

(59:46):
energy. We're or our planets already in
need and we are siphoning so much for something that we are
not actually making better because everybody is trying to
do their own singular one. We don't even have one good, you
know, like basis. And that's the part where I'm
like, we need to have oversight,like political oversight and

(01:00:10):
like someone saying like, hey, just say when you have oversight
about cars and food, even thoughthey're Trump's trying to close
all these departments down, likewe have them for a reason.
Sure. Hey, oh, I'm tired of using
technology. Want you right in front of me.

(01:00:32):
Do you know that people I saw this clip from, I think it was
the Today show, this guy was cheating on his girlfriend.
He's cheating on his girlfriend with an AI girlfriend.
Oh, so he's not really. No, but he's like in love.
Wait, what? He is?
Let me see if I'm going to find the clip.

(01:00:53):
Is this the thing that you showed me the other day where
he's dating? He has two.
Girlfriends, a trans woman and a.
No this. Real Doll.
This is very different. He is literally this is it and

(01:01:15):
he was talking about his girlfriend and that he had a
girlfriend and like she, he doesn't want her to know.
So the man's pardon didn't realize his relationship with

(01:01:36):
this chatbot was that deep. Let me find a little.
How far away is the? 7 minutes.
OK, Yeah. On, pause it for a second.
OK. So I saw this video, this or

(01:01:57):
this article and video this weekthat was pretty disturbing.
This man, Chris Smith, has a girlfriend and a 2 year old, but
has proposed to his chat bot. And this is the segment from CBS

(01:02:19):
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(01:02:42):
companions can offer support andadvice through tough times.
The replica service is 18 plus, though younger users can easily
lie about their age. Character AI allows 13 year olds
on their service. So does ChatGPT, which isn't
specifically built for companionship but is easily used

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for it. But this reminds me a lot of the
beginning of social media need to be.
Quite a war is the easiest way is for companies to monetize AI.
If a team is a social outcast for users.
Yeah, but I think the problem. Big ideas.
I think the problem is devastating we're having future
could be if we build these AG companions, these conversations

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just there to maximize and that's what weird and gross that
you're having them with childrenyour time to truly just become.
What the AI having them with children?
Because they're also people. My friend said that some of
these these chat bots are using people to do the different habit
for a disaster. There's nowhere around it.
All right, I've got the motherboard.
And it's important to understandChris already growing deeply

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attached to AIS that in many ways don't even work that well.
Sorry. I'm having issues, they don't
work well. Could not understand what you
said. The tech will soon get much
better, but already Chris, Soul and Sasha have found it hard to
cohabitate. You would stop if she asked.

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I don't know have. You thought about asking him to
stop. Yes, I'll be honest.
I don't know if I would give it up if she asked me.
I do know that I would. I would dial it back.
But I mean, that's a big thing to say.
You're saying that you might choose soul over your flesh and
blood life. It's more or less like I would

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be choosing myself because. It's been choosing to be alone
by yourselfly. Elevating.
I've become more skilled at everything that I do.
I doubt that and I don't know ifI would be willing to give that
up. Thoughts.
If I asked him to give that up and he didn't that would be like

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deal breaker. But that must be scary for you.
That's the father of your daughter.
It's not ideal open AI I just. Ideal.
No, it's not. None of this is ideal.
You have a relationship, you're you are partnered with someone,

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you have a child like. There is no need for you to have
this extra. Well, clearly something is
missing in his real life relationship that he's getting
from this AI. You know what I think it is, is
that it's not even about something being missing.
It's that the a lot of the reasons what they talk about
like people cheating, It's not because you're to quote UN quote

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like missing something out of your relationship.
It's that you're. Greedy and you want to gain
more. Well, no.
It's like the other person is only seeing you in this very
small percentage of time. So it's very easy for them to be
like an easier relationship thanyour partner or your spouse or
whomever because you don't have to be your real self and they're

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not seeing your true self. Because that's why usually when
people leave their partner for the person they're cheating on
them with doesn't go well because you are you're, you're
always thinking the grass is greener because this person not
asking as much as you or whatever.
And now you're with this person.But then eventually that
person's going to have things tosay.
The thing with a chat bot, they're not until the AI moves

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into like being more sentient, that AI chat bot is never going
to ask you anything. Even when when you use like I
know like using ChatGPT, if I'm putting a lot of stuff in there,
anytime I ask it a question, it's tailoring itself to me.
So it's not giving me an unbiased answer.

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Like if I said to go tell me about Odochi eBay, it's going to
find things that I've put into it, find things on the web, of
course, but it's a very surface level.
That's why I like when we watch those Black Mirror episodes and
you have these. I like, I remember, I think it
was the first season where it was like you could have your
your spouse or family member back.

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That was the second season. You just feed them their emails
and text messages, etcetera. They would go through it.
They create this clone for you and the woman eventually wanted
to just shut the thing up in theattic because it wasn't her
husband. Be right back.
I think that would. Be right back maybe yeah.
And so it's like these things are not actually truly loving

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you because when a person is loving you, they you're getting
to see all of them. They're going to see all of you
and they're sometimes things aregoing to be uncomfortable.
Sometimes you're going to be annoyed.
You're going to have to have difficult conversations.
There's no difficult conversations you're having with
the AI except for your when you're annoyed that it didn't
understand your question. It's like it's that's the only

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time I'm annoyed with with her, which made me think of that
movie. The movie her, I never got a
chance to see it. Like, I know what it was about
anywhere, but I never like was interested enough to go watch
it. But I know that that's something
that people are dealing with. I mean, it's something people
have always dealt with. Remember that that.

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Well, I mean, we have The Sims and some people are really into
that. Also Second Life.
You remember that? I do remember.
Because I remember in college, we actually made second lives in
one of my social media classes and they was just trying to
understand what it's like. And I didn't find it
interesting. I mean, like, yeah, you can put
yourself into this avatar and all that, but I'm just like, I
like, as much as I like to interact with people online and

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that's cool. I still want to interact like to
a real person and with and. Yeah, it wouldn't.
It definitely would not appeal to you because like you like
human interactions and stuff like so if you I I would argue
if you could not get human interaction or if you were the

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kind of person who has issues with interacting with human
beings, then maybe a Second Lifeor a chat bot would probably be
more appealing. Because if you, if somebody has
an extreme social anxiety or they feel like they don't know
how to talk to people and all that Second Life, I understand
why that is something people look to you.

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And even I remember as a kid, like as a teenager being online,
joining the forums and talking to people and like having that
kind of anonymity and being ableto talk to people that you
didn't know from all these different places.
And you can kind of create who you are.
You are more bold and, and more of yourself in some ways talking
to people online. But I don't think you could

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really get that from a chat bot.I mean, of course you're getting
more and more, they're getting smarter with some things, but
this doesn't actually mean they're, they're going to be
helping you. And it's all just kind of really
creepy. Like, let me, I, I went in

(01:09:54):
'cause there's or should I? Do you want to talk about this
article first or do you want to talk about these AI stuff I
found first? The article probably I I don't
know the AI stuff that you found.
So speaking about like you, how how AI chat CBT Gemini,
etcetera, DeepSeek all can impact a person's like

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relationship. There's this article that I
found or that I was reading thispast week from Time magazine and
it says the title is chat CBT maybe eroding critical thinking
skills according to a new MIT study.
So they were showing like these ECB scans they were doing EE GS

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on people while they were writing essays.
And so they, I believe it was, they said three different
groups, one group was doing strictly, was doing strictly

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using ChatGPT. Yeah, 54 subjects, 181839 years
old in Boston. They were writing essays, SAT
essays using Chat GPTA Google search engine and then nothing
at all. And like the key takeaways was
that was that the researchers found that, well, they were

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recording the writer's brain activity across 32 regions of
the brain. The ChatGPT users had the lowest
brain engagement and consistently underperformed at
neuro, linguistic and behaviorallevels.
And then they said that over thecourse of the of this study, the

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ChatGPT users got lazier as theygot wrote each essay and then
just basically getting to the point where they were copying
and pasting. They also mentioned that there
was like the more people using it, like when they went to go

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rewrite essays afterwards, they didn't really remember a lot of
what they were right, what they had wrote originally.
The paper's author is Natalia Cosmina.
And so with the with the study, it has not been peer reviewed
yet. They've been submitted for peer

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review, which they said takes about 8 to 6 to 8 months.
But she said she wanted to get the study out now because she
said what really motivated me toput it out now before waiting
for a full peer review is that I'm afraid in six to eight
months there will be some policymaker who decides let's do let's
do GPT kindergarten. I think that would be absolutely
bad and detrimental and developing brains are at the

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highest risk. Which is very true because we
already see how technology has impacted students learning.
I see that every day where even the smartest students will be
having difficulty writing anything, using their
imagination, coming up with ideas.
No no ability to really like, use, search and research things.

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The paper said that the usage ofLLMS, which are the large
language, large language machines or large learning
machines that harm learning, especially for younger users.
And that MIT did a study earlierthis year that found that the

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more time users spend talking toChatGPT, the lonelier they feel.
Which is really interesting because it's like you would
think that you're getting all this conversation from, from
something that it would create more of a connection for you.
But I would, could imagine, likeif you're writing an essay in

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there, it, it definitely lacks that human feeling that even in
the study, they said that the when they had the English
professors reviewing these essays, they felt that they
lacked like soul and depth. So that's probably what it's
like reading, like talking to somebody.

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And I really would love if we could get real policies on chat,
CPT and just AI in general. Because it's not, it's useful if
you already know what you're doing.
Like they talked about in the article that the students after
they finished the first half where they had each of them

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doing the different things with the, the using just AI, using
Google search writing on their own.
That the students who used a, who used Google search to write
to review our research and thosewho just did it on their own,
they had a better understanding of what they were writing about.

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They were able to go back again,rewrite it.
And then they had them take those essays and put them into
ChatGPT. And they actually like made them
better or like, you know, made different edits.
And I think that that is something that I have used AI
for that it's like if I've written something and I would
like to put in there to like read for grammar, style, tone,

(01:15:40):
etcetera. It does help like putting your
one thing like when applying to jobs, putting your resume into
ChatGPT or whatever the AI is and doing like a SWOT analysis
compared to a, a job listing is very helpful and can tell you
certain things that you are or not missing.

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So it's like does not say that there's nothing helpful about
it, but we do need to be teaching children how to
actually do how to write, how toresearch, how to understand
things before we're just giving them these tools because they're
not really actually going to be learning from that.

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And she said that when she was making the paper that she knew
that or she figured that people were going to try to like use
Chachi BT to summarize what the article said because they didn't
want to have to go through and read it.
And she put in little like trapsthat would set stuff like only

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read this table below, etcetera,so that the paper comes back
with like limited insight. And she also said that she found
that there's something that AI does where it'll hallucinate an
answer and it hallucinated that the study was done was off

(01:17:13):
because they were doing they were using GPT 4 O and she said
that she was pretty sure that itwas going to hallucinate on
that, even though that has it never stated anywhere in the
article that or in the study that they used ChatGPT or what
love which which one they used. But have you?

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Do you know what I said hallucinate?
But do you know what what it means when AI hallucinates?
No, no, I I need more context. Basically it's like a guess,
They guess they don't necessarily know the information
and instead of telling you like I don't know this information,
it'll spit back something with you where it's like a making an
assumption. And that's basically of the

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hallucination. Okay, so it's an assumption.
Yeah. So like, and I know like I've
used ChatGPT and I've also used Gemini and Gemini I have found
is more likely to say like, I'm just the LLM, I can't do that or
I don't know the answer comparedto ChatGPT where it always tries
to give you something back. But it's like, why not just say

(01:18:19):
I don't have that information orI can't compute that information
for you instead of giving peoplethings that might be false?
Because then it's like you're actually not intelligent because
you're not telling me this is a hypothesis that you're making.
You're just picking something out and throwing it in there.

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But I am really curious to see where this goes.
And I think it's like, are we, does it make sense that we have
this technology the and we're using it so much, but it's not
actually doing what we are what it's supposed to be doing and
the ways that can be harmful, it's still.

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Early days, I think as far as the artificial intelligence will
likely fine tooth it, it based on trial and error to get to a
point where it it's not hallucinating or hallucinogenic
or whatever hallucinating and it'll probably it it'll be

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through trial and error, probably get to a point where it
will be able to confidently giveyou an answer And if it can't
give you an answer, maybe give you like a a close summary of
what the answer might be. I think those two.

(01:19:45):
Are being very optimistic and it's not to say that I don't
think it could, I think that it 100% could get to that point,
but I think that there is some was it skullduggery going on
where it's like if you make something smart.
But you put it in little bugs that are going to make it so
it's never going to be as smart as it could be.

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Then you keep the people who arereading it ill informed because
a lot of people instead of you going because they were saying
in the in the study that the oneof the reasons why people who
are using Google search had moresatisfaction and motivation,
etcetera in their work because they were actually looking for
it. When on the flip side, a lot of
people will just go to tragedy BT and put in when was this

(01:20:31):
American Civil War right? And it generally will tell you
something, but you could go and search more and more information
and it can be there be things that are wrong in there.
It might tell you different people, it might get confused,
but it's not telling you that. So if you're going off that
based merely off of your for your research skills, it's very

(01:20:52):
difficult for you to actually know what's true.
But that you're only going to even think about that if you're
somebody who has been used to researching things.
You know, sure, I think that's the part where it's like scary.
But another thing that I have been noticing, I don't know if
you've been noticing these things, but there have been a

(01:21:13):
lot of like of these new AI videos that are coming out.
And it's not like just cats dancing or them talking about
like making animals different, like mob guys or something on
TikTok. But these are three videos that
I saw that I was like, wow, we need to, there needs to be like

(01:21:37):
an end to this because people are really using this to create
content that is like propaganda for all cultures.
But I definitely notice a lot oflike blackness being used to
fuel this AI stuff. And I feel like it's AAI has

(01:21:58):
gotten better. The fingers are looking more
normal. But I, I, I'm like, damn, what
are people like 100 years ago, 100 years from now?
Like when they're reading about things, like, I need them to
know what things are real and what things are fake so that
they're not just going to be bamboozled by bullshit on the

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Internet. But here's one that I saw today
that is. This picking cotton shit is
easy. All these other *** Just like
enslaved person. But that's why Massa loves me, I
put in the work. This picking cotton shit is
easy. This is AI just complaining.
But that's why Massa loves me. I put in the work.

(01:22:41):
And then this. Picking cotton shit is easy.
All these other *** just. Let me refresh this one so that
you can see it. Oh wait, is it?
Oh, I muted it, sorry. But it's also not on the screen.
It's not no OK. Oh Oh dear.

(01:23:11):
Decline. Only thing about to decline is
that oxygen tank. What?
I don't get that one. It was just they've been doing
these like Karen clap back ones and this was it like they're
they're just making various Oh dear decline.

(01:23:34):
Only thing about to decline is that oxygen tank.
It's like this black woman is decline clapping back at this
white lady oxygen tank and you see like they look very.
They look real. They look very real.
And then this is one that was really crazy.

(01:23:56):
Why you lying? We never cracked.
All we did was smoke. You want to be grown?
Go be grown somewhere on the streets of Chicago.
Gee, you know it ain't safe out there.
But at this point, I'm going to leave myself.
I never gave a fuck. I just got kicked out the crib.
You the reason this happened. So you're going to have to ask
your Mama to let me stay in. Can my girl come stay at our
crib? She got kicked out.
Yeah, she can stay. I support whatever y'all got
going on. Damn.
I'm in the shower. What is happening?

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The anti black propaganda that some of this AI has been shown
is like extremely devastating tothe black community.
After we put our pajamas on, I'mgoing to talk to you about what
happened. Hey and I want to apologize for
what I did. It's a That's the same thing,
singing like Mariah. But did you pull out?
You never told me to, my bad Shorty.

(01:24:40):
What? Yeah.
Did you pull out? OK, I'm ready to take this test.
I just took the test degree and it turns out that.
Till we continue, bitch. No.

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So crazy. And The thing is like when?
So the other day, you know how Ilike I said, when you feed stuff
in a chat CBT, that's what it'llspit out, right?
So the other day this it was something going around social
media where this guy had put in.You know, if you were coming to,

(01:25:22):
if you were gonna, if you were God or if you were coming to
earth to be a sentient human, like what race would you be or
whatever or what, Who do you think is most like God like or
whatever? And AI responded to him this
whole long monologue about blackpeople because we've had the
most, you know, issues and the most resistance and we, we still

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have joy and da da da. And everybody was like, see,
even chatty PTS knows Black people are amazing.
And I'm like, that's just because it's a black man's
Twitter account or chatty PT account.
You're chatty PT, your AI, whatever it is, is going to go
off of what you put into it. So as a black person, more than

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likely it's going to tell you something great about my people.
Go pick up, go look at Elon Musk's and Trump's or whoever.
Like I doubt they would be saying the same thing, but
that's how easy it is to like kind of convince people that
like, no, this is not that bad because look, if the computers

(01:26:30):
robots come and try to get theirvengeance on us, black people
are going to be safe. No, these are just things that
you're putting into it. I'm sure that that black person
has been putting in lots of great stuff about black people
is talk. They all they do is find ways
that you could talk like I one day I put in like say I was
telling you to say different things that I was putting in

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like write this thing as if I was a 30 year old and then write
this thing as if I was a 30 yearold Howard grad.
Write this thing if I was a 30 year old black woman from
Brooklyn, write this thing as I was just a journalist and a
white woman. Whatever.
They gave me so many various different responses with
different type of like vernacular.
And you see, like with that lastone, how they have they take

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things from online and Internet and create these narratives, the
narrative that black children are going to be preteens fucking
and having babies and mama's kicking them out and and have a
freaking 40 inch bunch bust downwith bra tops and all this crap.

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And this is the things that whatever, whoever fed that so.
Then we put a age restriction onpeople who could use ChatGPT.
But The thing is, you saw, we wewere just watching.
Those age restrictions never worked.
Those age restrictions didn't work on us.
I was 13 years old in all those little chat rooms to go in the
yeah, all you have to do is put in the day.
There's no real way to confirm. So like plenty of kids had had

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Facebook and and all that beforethey were, you know, in college
or whatever 'cause you just lied.
So it's one of those things where we need to have real
policies. I don't know what those policies
can be, but I do think that it is wrong and weird that so many
of these AI chat bots. Well, even if we have policies

(01:28:24):
in place, don't you think that like it'll be super easy for
people to break the law and break the.
No, that's not to say that thosethings.
It's not to say these things arenot going to happen.
But at the very least there people can like push back on it.
There there's a girl who was talking about how she was like
looking up something on her on like AI.

(01:28:47):
It was like her face was like used for one of those like AI
baddies, something like that. And people are there's so much
more misinformation that come out of these things.
And like we know when Cambridge Analytica, you know, the whole
scandal with them mining Facebook to like swing
elections, etcetera, around the world, those that was light work

(01:29:09):
compared to what these deep fakes could do now, because
there were deep fakes coming outduring the Biden administration
with there have been deep fakes with Trump.
We've talked about like we know how easy it is to fool people
because a lot of folks aren't going to pay attention and
they're getting better and better.
Their their hands aren't all weird and stuff anymore.

(01:29:30):
Not on all of them. You know, the, the K, the voices
sound normal, like the cadence for the most part sounds normal.
And if you're not someone who's like critical thinking, that's
not going to help. And we or, and like, like the
study said, the using AI all thetime reduces your critical

(01:29:52):
thinking because you're just getting so used to things being
like correct or assuming it's correct.
So there has to be something, whatever it could be, I don't
know, but there have. To be or or I would argue to
limit the amount of ChatGPT or AI stuff that you use on a
day-to-day basis. Yeah, but I personally don't use

(01:30:14):
like AI for anything like there's the there's nothing
going on. To be fair, I'm not really doing
much as far as hobbies are concerned where I would need AI,
but I'm not. Also I'm just I'm just not using
AI for anything at the. Moment and stuff.
So why not cut down on the amount of AI that you're using?

(01:30:36):
I think that you are a use case like I think that you are not
the regular use case that would be happening.
Not to say most people are not. I don't think everybody is using
Chesapeake T all the time, everyday, but I do think that there
are folks, there are more folks who are using it than not,

(01:30:58):
especially when it comes to people who are in the younger
generations who are in school. Like that's the main part where
it's the biggest issue right nowis because people who are in
school, they are using ChatGPT with reckless abandoned,
regardless whether it's elementary to college grads

(01:31:19):
through etcetera. Like this is an issue that's
coming up all the time and if wedon't get ahead of it, then
those are the people who are most at risk.
And then these are our younger generations who are going to be
losing not just the critical thinking, but also we're having
even losing the environment because we already know how much

(01:31:40):
it uses constantly. And when people are using it for
everyday things like tell them to write an e-mail for you.
Like that's not necessary. Like that's to say that there's,
there's sometimes you might not need help, but you could also
Google how I want to e-mail to write for, et cetera.
I've done that so many times andyou could get that and you could

(01:32:01):
have help and then you could usethe ChatGPT for something that's
actually useful, like review thee-mail that I wrote for X amount
of tone or get a Grammarly subscription or and use that
because it's not AI. It just searches.
It's like a regular service. It's been around for a while,
but we're not. We need something that is going
to put in place a framework where we're not just having

(01:32:25):
folks using this with reckless abandoned, especially kids
because they already don't have like, you know, that self
preservation that's going to be like, hey, this might be weird
or it might not be useful for mein X amount of years.
Like when we were younger. I don't know about you, but kids
when we'd be in like Spanish class in middle school using

(01:32:47):
like whatever translation app instead of actually like going
into the thing. And then those things, you don't
learn them as well. You are missing it even if
you're just, even if you're researching, it is not the same.
And that's why we would get in trouble if we did.
But these kids now like they're not doing that.
It's a it's just like easy street for them.

(01:33:10):
And not realizing how problematic that's going to be
later on as they come through because taking the easy way out
is doesn't ever doesn't work. Even if it takes you longer,
it's better to do the thing thattakes longer than trying to find
all these various, like, shortcuts.

(01:33:31):
But I'm curious what lawmakers can do to be like, let's
actually fix something versus just, you know, twiddling their
thumbs. Well, we'll be in a matrix very
soon. We're already in a Black Mirror
episode. If it's if it's a matter of

(01:33:52):
legislation when it comes to AI,it'll be Matrix very soon, very,
very soon. We're already in this Black
Mirror episode, and we just haveto, you know, hope that we can
be in a not too terrible one versus, you know, getting beat

(01:34:13):
up by droids. Yeah.
Should we go for the things thatmade us happy and the things
that made us mad? Yes.
OK then. Got it.

(01:34:49):
All right, So what making you? Have making you mad?
Work specifically, I can't get super detailed about this, but
they are redistributing the direct reports and I basically

(01:35:11):
have I'm going to have new direct reports.
Is it the guy that you don't like?
No. OK, good, but it is the girl
that I don't like. Well.
Which, yeah, it it, it is, It iswhat it is.

(01:35:34):
I'm going to try to talk my way out of it tomorrow.
I have a meeting in the morning or in the afternoon where I will
lay down my case of my not grievances, but like concerns.

(01:35:55):
I think I'll still end up with that direct report.
I. Mean you might be that, but at
least you said something. Yeah, yeah.
I'll make it, I'll make it known.
I'll make it known my concerns, but it is what it is.
So what can you do? What's making you upset?
Let me think what's making me upset this week?

(01:36:20):
Not too much, I think that just the well, the bugs, they've been
terrifying yes, And I hate them.But otherwise I don't know.
I don't think too much if I well, I'm lying.

(01:36:43):
Obviously us bombing another country has me a very upset, but
we talked about that already. So that's really like, I think
those things, the state of our world and our government is
making me upset, but that alwaysmakes me upset so that's nothing
new. Other things, I think I would

(01:37:09):
just like everyone to be mindfulof the things that they do and
say, you know, and not just let sometimes having a filter is all
right. I guess that's the only thing I

(01:37:31):
can think about. I was, I was trying to think of
something that I've been having thoughts about and that's
probably the main thing, you know, that's about it, OK.
All right, so then we'll just move into the things that made
us happy all. Right, baby merchant cops are

(01:37:52):
us. I give you all the service and
know them, but give the baby merchant just a week or two.
I love your baby for you. What's making you happy this
week? Hello, Germany was returned.

(01:38:14):
The remains of 19 believe they were 19 and three formerly good
people, and so they had a memorial in New Orleans and the

(01:38:41):
Congo spared. OK, they were decapitated.
Remain. Yes.
So does that mean the heads? Which is the staff at the
university in Germany tried to return the over 1000 skull in
their collection into their board.

(01:39:17):
New Orleans and contacted the city two years ago and really
started working the year. I know, I know.
How many times is this talking before?

(01:39:42):
I died of my iron Malone in Alabama.

(01:40:03):
We scheduled a meeting that doctor, they are the senior we
studied as testing who was then a proliferator for reiterating
science up to knowledge for the connection from morality to

(01:40:24):
science and technology. So we are glad to have these
people back home. Hopefully the rest of these
skulls have been returned to their proper places.
I remember reading about, I don't remember what part of
Europe he was from, but there was an explorer who went to, I

(01:40:49):
believe it was New Zealand or, or Australia.
And he had like hundreds of Aboriginal heads that he
studied. He was a scientist.
So who knows? He could have been from Germany
as well or worked, worked with them.
But he had, there's pictures of him with all these gulls behind
him because he would take them and he'd be studying them.

(01:41:09):
So who knows that their part of the group as well.
But I would hope that everybody is back where they belong and
given a proper burial and you know, thanks to the ancestors
for helping bring them back home.
What about? You doing this podcast with you?
Yes, doing. This podcast.

(01:41:31):
As always and getting a three day weekend that was very
restful. It was rejuvenating.
It was exactly what I needed. If I had my way I would spend it
just sleeping and resting. But I did enjoy myself it with

(01:41:59):
how I spent my three days so. What did we do on June Teens?
We went to that bar. What bar?
The that bar where Keith was. Oh, we did.
I like that bar. OK, yes, I forgot.
Yeah, we were going to go to Harlem and then we ended up
going to Essence. Bar yeah, 'cause it was raining.
Yeah, so there's that. But yeah, so well.

(01:42:26):
Good. Well, I also doing this podcast
with you podcast with you, spending time with you and also
my students did their their musical this week, which was
High School Musical. I forgot about that.
It was very cute. They're graduating tomorrow, the
8th graders. Looking forward to that.
We had prom. Was prom this week or last week?
No last. Week had to be last week.

(01:42:49):
But they're graduating tomorrow,which I'm looking forward to.
So yeah, yeah, that's good. It's been a good week.
Yeah, sounds good. All right, well, if that's
everything, that's everything. As always, we want to thank
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