Ep 155 Nigeria Yes

In this episode: Ode (@thatsod.e / @thatsod_e) and Mo "Kid" Licorish (@licorishislegit) discuss a wide range of nerdy, pop culture, and political topics. Topics include:

Kanye West

Scary Movie 6

Belly

Spider-Punk

Chance the Rapper

and much more...

Episode Transcript

(00:08):
Maurice and Odie want to take over like Zach and Cody Blackish
Nerdy is the best podcast going to boom like Wally Coyote
talking about mental health. No, it's not scary.
You notice she coming up with the astrology MO God that comic
and that's the best policy. Maurice the goat talking about
animation because you know she move away.
We like the boat, watch some movies and she taking notes.

(00:43):
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Black and Snurdy
podcast, the only podcast where two sexy black nerds get
together to shoot the shit. I am Moek, a kid, Licorice and
together we are the aforementioned nerds here on
episode 155. How are you doing?

(01:12):
I'm doing great actually. Well.
Hold on, I gotta not hold on. Keep talking, but I gotta flip
it and reverse it real quick. There we go.
I put my thing down for a bit and reverse it.
Yes, there we go, 'cause that way my name winds up with.
Who you are? Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, I'm pretty good. Feeling better.

(01:35):
I was a little bit sick the lastfew days, yes, but with lots of
rest and sleep and soup and help, I am feeling better.
That's good. That's good that you're feeling
better. How are you doing?
I'm doing well. No, I'm I'm fine.
I just. This is going to be 1 hell of a

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week. 'Cause it's a full week of work.
It's it's a full week of work. And without getting too deep
into details, this is like crunch time.
Yeah. It's do or die.
Yeah. And there's a good chance that I
may die. But we'll see.

(02:16):
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how that turns out.
We just gotta be optimistic. I'm, I'm trying to be
optimistic, but the universe feels like it is ready to shove
something inside of me and all Ican do is lay back and say and,
and clench my clench my teeth. But we're not here to talk about

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sodomy, Sodom and. Gomorrah.
Sodom and Gomorrah, AKA New YorkCity, where we live somewhere,
not telling where, somewhere nottrying to adopt us.
But yeah, that's that's I am good.
I am glad. I am good.
And I am glad that you're feeling much better.

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Thank you. It's always never good to see
you sick. I don't like it.
I'm not a fan of it. Why?
You mean why? Because like you're, you're,
you're just feeble. Like when you're sick and you
need more help than normal. And it's like, OK, so this is

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this is going to be my day. My day is going to be spent
doing this it. Might not bring you joy to be
able to. How would it bring anybody joy?
It brings people joy to help thepeople that they care about.
Yes, that fine in that regard. It brings me joy to know that I
am helpful. The tasks itself are not joyful.

(03:54):
It's it's make me tea, make me drink, I.
Say please. Get me, get me medicine, please.
Turn off the AC, Turn on the fan.
Please. Wake me up at some time o'clock.
Please. Yeah, I mean.
I say it politely. So no, you say it politely.

(04:15):
I don't think you always say please.
You do say it politely. Like can you do this for?
Me. OK.
I mean, I always say please, butI feel like that's a part in my
inherent politeness. It's like, oh man, can you
please get this for me? Or can you get this for me?
Can you turn on the light? Can you turn off the light?
Can you turn off the TV? Yeah, I.

(04:36):
Have requirements for sickness, you know, like everyone does and
like when you're sick. I do those things with love.
I know. And that's, and that's the, the
inherent difference between you and me is that I, I do them out
of responsibility because if I don't do them, then it won't get

(04:59):
done. It won't get done.
So it needs to be done. So I, I step up to the plate, I
step up to the to, to bat and I take one for the team.
Is it taking one for the team? It's taking one for my team.

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For my purse. Yeah, but there there's three
teams, There's our team, there'syour team, and there's my team.
And my team is taking a, taking it taking a taking a backseat to
help your team, which I guess inyour mind strengthens our team.

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Yeah, it does. Because if you didn't do those
things, then like. Just left you to die.
If you didn't take one for the team and I didn't take one for
the team on my end, when you're sick or.
But that's the difference. The difference is you want to
you, you, you. You were raised to want to take

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one for the team. Well, it's not.
I wasn't raised to do it's. Not a want as much as is just a
recognizing that like this is what it means to be a part of
community with people and being in relationship.
With I think that's inherently the difference between you and
me is that I didn't grow up because.
You're a man. With a community mindset.

(06:25):
You are a man, and man I don't think.
That it's a man thing. I don't think it's a man woman
thing. I think it's a you thing and a
me thing. Because all the men in your
family tend to have this sense of community as well.
Whereas me and my family, we're like selective with our

(06:47):
community. Like no, seriously.
Like you notice that my sister doesn't hang out with my cousins
either. Yeah, but they live far away.
They don't. They're all in Baltimore.
That's not far. Oh, you mean your mom's?
Side. Yeah, on my mom's side.
But does she? I don't wanna say nevermind.
Anyhow. OK, but no, like, OK, I

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understand what you're saying. I think that yes, because on my
end, on my side, there's. We're isolationists like we
choose who we want to bring intothe.
Fold. But I think that The thing is
like when you are connected withpeople through family
relationships of whatever kind, then you can't did.

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You know blood is thickened in water.
Doesn't mean what you think it means.
I have I have heard this. Thought like it's.
It doesn't. Lighten the listeners.
Yes, blood thicker than water isnot a it doesn't mean that
family is thick. What it means is that fuck, I

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got to look this up. Yeah, I'm going to look this.
Up All right, so while you're looking it up, I will give you
my perspective that there are two things that play here for
me. One, being a woman, because
being a woman you are from birthsocialize that you are there to

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nurture and take care of the people around you.
That's why they when we were younger, it was only girls who
are getting baby dolls. Boys are getting action figures,
right? It's boys are in action where
girls are should be nurturing and in action also, but you're
nurturing. So that etcetera, etcetera,
etcetera. So though that responsibility is
inherent, regardless of whether or not you want that

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responsibility, that responsibility is yours because
you are in community with these people and you want to make sure
that you are taking care of them.
And then on the other side, Familia Familia Lee, both on my
American and my Nigerian side, family is very important.

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Community is very important and because in both sides of my
family, the fact that they wouldnot have made it to where they
were, like they wouldn't have served literally my parent, my
dad would not have survived without his community.
He would not have survived the genocide.
He wouldn't have just survived the coups and everything that

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came after that within his like his family and his community
would not have survived if everyone did not band together.
So now I think that the idea of like family is so important and
your community is your extended community is so important
because those are the people that are going to have your back
no matter what. So when they're sick, when

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they're in need of help, when they just even, it's just like,
oh, they need someone to talk toyou.
Like that is something that is instilled in you, which I think
is a great thing to have. Even if I and say the men in my
family may not always be as nurturing, but I do shout out to
them for like stepping up in need.

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Like I remember being in collegeand like I knew that I could
always call any of my cousins, but especially my eldest cousin,
the Mecca if I needed anything. Like I remember one time in
college, I didn't have any groceries, and I told him like,
hey, you know, do you have like he could take me grocery

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shopping or I was talking to himor whatever.
The groceries came up. He's like, go take me grocery
shopping. Cool.
We go to like the Giant that wasin Columbia Heights.
And he was like, OK, you have $100 to spend.
And I said, OK, cool. Now I was putting things in the
cart in my head that when I was tallying it up, it was like, OK,
this is going to be about $100, right?

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We got him to the check to the cash point.
It was $400 and he was like, this is not what I said.
And I was like, Oh my God, I'm sorry.
I'll I'll put stuff back. And he was like, no, it's fine.
Whatever. Swiped what?
The car food back and I had foodfor like a month plus see.
I in that situation I would havemade you put some of that.

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I mean, no, honestly, like I butThe thing is, he had it and.
This tells me that you're not good at math.
He had it. And also like I'm his younger
cousin, I'm in college. I'm I need food.
It's not like I was wasn't goingshopping for like frivolous
things. Yeah, it was grocery shopping

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grocery. So like for sustenance him like
being very nurturing in that aspect.
Or if I would be at the house and like my period would come on
and I would tell him and he wouldn't flinch.
He wouldn't be weird about it. And I would just be like, can
you get me these type of tampons?
I think you could go get them like those type of things, which
I think it's important. And it's important for the

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people within your family, like your blood, but also within your
community. Because the same way like when
you call up a friend and you're like, I'm having a bad day or
this thing is happening, you need to, they need to know that
you're going to be there for them that you didn't know
they're going to be there for you.
Vice versa, because we are all in this group project together.

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So it's like if you're not holding up your end of the
bargain, which is helping out inneed within reason, obviously
not like let's saying people should just be taking advantage
or whatever. But when people are in need, if
they're sick, if they need something that you could do it
without harming yourself, then it's just like whatever.
Like the this, the lack of selfishness I think in my family

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is important, even though sometimes there are some people
who are very selfish. But in general, I think in the
by like I was raised in a beliefthat you could not be selfish
and only think about yourself because you are not the only one
here and you could not expect people to stop their lives and

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do things for you. But you don't also want to stand
up and do that as well. Well, for me, community is more
paramount, not necessarily than family.
Family. Your family is a part of your
community. When I say community, I don't
distinguish between family and friends.
It's all we are all in communitytogether.

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Well, but that's the thing. Like for me, I distinguish
because a lot of my like I, I have family and friends.
I have a lot of friends that I consider family and I have some
family that I consider friends. And I have family I don't
consider at all. And exactly, there's a bunch of
families that I that like. OK, so the original the blood is

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thicker than water. It actually means bonds formed
through shared experiences and commitments are stronger than
those of family relationships. For me, I think that that is how
I was raised. I was raised that the people in
your life that you have actual connections with or a shared

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experience with are your family and are your community.
That's true. Just because they happen to have
the same grandmother as you doesn't necessarily mean that
they are. Just because they're family
doesn't necessarily mean that they're community.
Well, and I, I don't disagree with you because there if I have

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people in my family who I don't consider a part of my community,
does that mean that I would havewant them to see harm or if I if
they were. No, we're, we're removing that.
We're not talking about people that we would want to see like,
yeah, the worst out of. We're just talking about the
people that we consider that arein our circles, that are in our
lives, that are in our what we would consider our community.

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Your definition of community is different than my definition of
community. But I think that regardless.
Neither of them is a right or wrong.
Way. But I think the main part to me
that is the most important is that if you are, if you are in
community with people and this is like a chosen community, then
we should be there for them because you can't.

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I agree. You could not expect people to
be in community with you if you are not in community with that.
I agree, however asterisk without putting yourself out.
But. Because anybody in your
community would understand if you cannot show up for them.
I have a it's I think that has. You should.

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You should always strive to showup for people, but if there is a
reason that you cannot then thenthen they they as part of your
community should understand. That, but I, and I will also
say, I will add an addendum to that little footnote that I,
that there's a saying that I've been hearing a lot recently that

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I don't, I don't wanna mess it up.
But it was like, and it's basically like inconvenience.
Being inconvenienced is a part of being in community or
something like that, which is like, it's not to say that like,
OK, if, if you need to, if you're going to lose your job,
if you drive someone to the airport, that you do that and

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it's inconveniencing you. No.
However, if you're not doing anything, you're at home and
someone's coming to visit or whatever and they ask, hey, or
if they're just coming home, canyou pick me up from the airport?
Is it inconvenient? Sure, because the airport's
annoying to pick people up. But this is somebody that you
care about, you love. You're not putting yourself out.

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It might be a little bit annoying, but that's OK to do
that. Or the sense of like
consideration of that person. Like consideration is the
highest form of love and showingthat you're in community with
someone. So sometimes you are considering
someone more than what you wouldbe can be inspired if you have

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to. Like, for instance, we going to
our friend's wedding in Tobago, right?
It wasn't necessary. It wasn't a convenient way to go
and get there. That was an.
Inconvenient. It was extremely inconvenient.
There was there's a lot of travel.
It was back and forth transferring layover.

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There was a lot of inconvenient elements to that that we're not
even sharing on this podcast. And but so like all those we
see, all these people showed up,even though that could be
inconvenient. Why to show up for that person?
My cousin got married in Germany.
People showed up even though it could be mildly inconvenient to

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travel like Sade, traveling withthe babies is very inconvenient,
right? But it's still you show up,
you're there. And like, even though it might
be getting there might be a annoyance, but then once you're
there, being with these people that you love and you care about
and who knows how often you're going to see them, it's joyful.

(18:25):
So it's like even when you're talking about I think the in
like your everyday life, it's inconvenient for you maybe to
excuse me like I. Think your definition of
inconvenient is flawed? Why is it flawed?
I think what your definition of inconvenient is a umbrella term

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for small and big things. Small and big things are
convenient. So what?
What? Yeah, so big important things
could be inconvenient. Like inconvenient.
Big things, big things aren't necessary, and big things
there's. There has to be another word for
inconvenient that's larger than inconvenient for big things.

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But why does it have to? Why can't the word be?
Why would? Be it's not inconvenient is
like, so it's like, meh, you know what I mean?
Like, oh, like throw away thing,whereas you're moving mountains.
Like if the big thing is moving mountains, that's not an

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inconvenience. That's an actual problem.
That's an actual issue that and and I'm not even sure if that is
the the right nomenclature to use instead of inconvenience,
but that's a problem or an issueor a difficulty or a hurdle.
Maybe it's hurdle. OK, so you can have you have

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that is that is placing you frombeing able to to show up and
show out or navigate. Well, I think that, yes.
So sometimes we have inconveniences and sometimes we
have larger inconveniences with the hurdles, Sure.
And I think that I still believethat within community that

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whether it's a small inconvenience or a larger
hurdle, that sometimes you make hurdles for the people in your
community who are worth those hurdles that doesn't and that
you should do that all the time.Nor does that mean you should do
it in a way that put yourself out.

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And obviously that is a something that everybody always
has to think about and work out for themselves.
What are the things that are, Isthis a hurdle that I would like
to leap? Because I think that is an
important distinction and each of us has to make it for
ourselves and figure out sometimes within within doing

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the thing. Is this a hurdle that OK, this
is a hurdle I jumped. Is this a hurdle I should jump
again? I would argue that maybe that is
a question that could be considered on your end.
And not even just is this a hurdle that I would do again, I

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would say is it a hurdle that I should do before I do the
hurdle? I would say that I think that
you should think about what you consider no a.
Hurdle. Nah.
And what you consider? No, no, because I the thing that
OK, we're we're getting too in the weeds on this one.

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But the things that I consider ahurdle are are actual hurdles.
Lots of things could be. Anything that is in that feels
intermountable could be a hurdle.
Yeah. Yeah.
So that's AI agree with you? I agree with you.
So we'll leave it. We'll leave it right there for

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the time being. Are you ready to jump into this
week's? Episode I've been ready like
fish and spaghetti. When you want.
A hot meal? We've got a big deal.
What are you going to pick? Hot Topics.
Is fish and spaghetti something you grew up in?
No, that's the song. I know, I know.
Let's get it. No, I know, but I know like the

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Midwest, it's like fish cat, like fried fish and spaghetti is
like very. Popular.
I feel like I have had fish in spaghetti.
I used to have pork and beans a lot.
I used to have that a lot as. Well, pork and beans.
Do you want to know what my mom?Makes no poor sandwiches, I
mean. I love them.
I I love them too. Give me hot, first of all, the

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way to make. My grandmother's love language
was to make me pork chop sandwich, egg sandwiches in the
morning for breakfast every morning before she went to work
at that college because she was a, she was a kindergarten
teacher for a long time. And then I think she retired and

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then I think she started workingat a university for a little
bit. And then after that things get a
little hazy. I'm I'm not sure what she was
doing for a while. This is Grandma Olivia.
Yes, yes, this is my my mom's mom.
I mama's Mama. Well, I love pork and beans and

(23:23):
I think the best way to now likeas a not having having a poor,
not poor meal. Grill the hot.
Dogs. Sure.
Then put them in the beans, slice up some onions, grill egg
with the hot dogs, grill those up, put those with the beans and
then over the white over the white rice.

(23:44):
Delicious. Oh, you had?
Oh, Nigeria, yes. My mom made this was my my
father was First of all, I don'tthink I I cannot think of a.
Nigerian. Yes, meal that my father ever
made, like his struggleless mealwould have been maybe like some
sort of pasta, like I don't evenmaybe we ran out of meat and he

(24:07):
did some sort of judging up withthe veggies and pasta and like a
butter. Well, your dad.
'S like a cook. Yeah, he is.
So it's like so. So we never had, I feel like.
Struggle meals have to be with people who can, who, who, who.
OK, there's a difference betweencooking and making a meal.

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Of course. I think struggle meals come from
people who can make meals, not who can cook.
I disagree. I think because this is the
thing I think that struggle meals, the reason why is we love
them so much. A lot of us into our adulthood

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is that the people who knew how to make meals were taking
nothing and making something. That's what I'm OK different
we're we're on the same page, but different mentalities.
When I say that the people who know how to cook don't make
struggle meals is that they maketheir meals, even if it is a

(25:13):
struggle meal, feel like a meal.It is the people who know how to
make food that make the strugglemeals, and it's apparent that
it's a fucking struggle. Well, I think that like when you
also think about who's making the struggle meals, mom's
grandma like you are your grandmother making you a pork

(25:34):
chop, an egg sandwich for you cuz you're her little bit.
That wasn't even a struggle meal.
That was not that struggle meal.That was a She gave you meat.
She gave me. Meat.
I got a good piece of meat. Oh yeah.
But think about like all those other struggle meals that we
had, it was mostly moms, whethersingle or not, who are trying to
make food that is going to feed their kids, yeah, be nutritious

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and possibly last like a day or two, maybe 3 or 4 if you were,
you know, impoverished in some way because.
Fucking shout out to Marie Callender's Alfredo, pasta
Alfredo and green giants broccoli and cheese.
The Green Giant microwavable meals.
Yes, the broccoli, specifically the broccoli and cheese.

(26:20):
The I don't know what it was about that cheese.
That cheese made me it it it every time I went to Golden
Corral. It's the reason why I slather
cheese on everything. I will put cheese on all the
meats, on the veggies. I even put cheese in the
desserts, which was not delicious.
I will admit that. I will admit ice cream and

(26:42):
cheese not a real good dish. OK, I will say I did taste AI.
It was a Gelato in the city. There was they have one that's
made it's like parmesan flavor, but it was delicious.
It's like also Gelato. So they were.
You could make cheese taste goodwith ice cream if you're doing
it on purpose, but not like cheese Wiz.

(27:05):
Oh my goodness, cheese with canned cheese.
I never had. I've never.
Shout out to Goofy Movie. Shout out to.
Because that's why I would love cheese in a can.
Maybe 1? Of.
The spray that in my mouth. It made me want to have cheese
with so bad. My mother never bought that.

(27:26):
Oh no, my mom bought that shit. She said we're poor, but we're
not that bore. And I want you to eat real.
Actually not even my mom. It was on churro.
On churro bought that shit and Iate it in like 2 days and I was
like get more. No, because you just fucking eat
a whole can of it. It's just like when I when I
would eat all the pop Tarts in one sitting and I would be like,

(27:49):
when are you getting more? And she's like, I'm not going to
the grocery store for another week.
That was always how my mom woulddo it.
Like she would go, we would go grocery shopping.
So of course, but now we're filled with all the good snacks
and she's like, I'm not going grocery shopping for two, like,
'cause it's the next pay period.Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if you 2 weeks, whatever you eat between this Friday and two

(28:12):
Fridays from now, it's up to you.
There's the food in the house. I'm not a a freaking warden.
Yeah, you can eat the food, but this let me tell you.
And this is how I trained my momand grandmother to respect my
wishes and get the actual frosted Flakes and the actual

(28:36):
Pop Tarts because y'all thought y'all were slick getting that
the off brand. Oh, it's the same thing.
We have Pop Tarts at home. We have Frosted Flakes at home,
dollar store, whatever is calledlike frosted pastries and and,
and, and not even Frosted Flakeslike Frosties or whatever the

(28:58):
fuck they were called. And you know what would happen?
They would sit up in the cabinetfor ages.
And that would have been the only four that would have been
until you it finished eating that that's which would you had
you wanted the. 4. Ages so you know how many
frosties and fucking what was the the whatever multiple.

(29:21):
I'm gonna keep asking for Frosted.
Slaves and you got. I don't.
Care what you think is at home, I guess what you think is at
home is not. You not do.
You want me to keep asking you for the Frost Flakes and the Pop
Tarts? I'm going to keep asking because
what you have at home is not. And I and I broke them.

(29:42):
I broke those with my horses. Let's get into this episode.
Yeah, we've just spent 30 minutes bullshitting.
The first the first thing I wantto talk about, have you heard of
this filmmaker actor? His name on Twitter is Director
Daddy. Oh, oh, let me.

(30:05):
Fix that, sorry. Oh, I had it spelled wrong.
Oh, so he has he. I see him post a lot about just
different things and so I didn'trealize that he was a.
Film maker, sorry. An actor and director and
everything until recently but heput out a trailer now Question,

(30:30):
can I play this trailer? If only he owns this, right?
It's his. It's his.
Yeah, all right. A studio doesn't own.
No, no, he said that no. So this let me share.
It and all right, I think I think you could play it if he
owns this, yeah, it's his. But if it's like a major studio

(30:52):
that owns Hollywood productions,OK, all right.
So all right, I saw him post this the other day.
His movie Super *** got got 216,000 views on YouTube in 10
days of word of mouth but was rejected from every major Film

(31:13):
Festival. So I feel like we should watch
the trailer together and see howwe like it.
OK. Now it's OK, The music sounds
on. All right.
Look, it's been a long day. I work for white people.
If we call him Superman of colorbecause he's color.

(31:33):
And who the hell are you supposed to be anyway?
Can't call him super. *** why not?
The world's first superhero. He's also black.
Everyone wants to know about this man, right?
What's his skin care routine? Where is he from?
The Girl of justice has been. That's a well meaning white
person. Do you think that it's
inappropriate for me to be writing about Cardi B's new

(31:54):
booty? Those products aren't going to
organize themselves. So as a trailer, this is not
great. I know how you don't think you
don't like it. I like it.
It doesn't as a tea. I feel like it's more of a

(32:14):
teaser, right? Yeah, yeah, it's a teaser.
OK. If it's a teaser, then it's
fine. It's only 30 seconds if it's a
teaser, if it's a teaser, if it's a teaser, it's fine.
Go to. If it's a trailer.
No, because it has a full 8 minute trailer.
Oh my God, no. I'm not, I'm not going to play
that, but I'm just saying it's ait has like a longer one on the

(32:35):
OK. Because I couldn't get AI,
couldn't get a sense of what theactual story was.
It's about a super *** Or maybe the movie's 8 minutes long.
It might be. So it's a short film.
It might be it's a short film because it seems like that

(33:00):
because it's on YouTube. Yeah, this is it.
So the movie itself is 8 minutesand 29 seconds.
So go online, obviously, go on YouTube, Go watch.
It right now, even though we have not watched it.
No we haven't. I didn't realize it was that
long. It is has 252,000 views.
Probably this short portion of it it.

(33:22):
Might be a pitch for a longer movie, you know what I mean?
Like. It got rejected from all the
different. Yeah, it's probably, this is
probably like the pitch. This is the pitch for the actual
movie that he would like to make.
You know what I mean? Because like a lot of times you
in Hollywood, you have to like you.

(33:44):
You don't always have to have like a proof of concept real of
what it is that you're trying toshoot if you're trying to sell a
movie. But like when you're pitching a
movie, you do have to have like the the, the main idea, the
beats of the of the story and whatever the hook is.

(34:06):
So this could just be the hook of in order to hook a studio
into giving him 15. Well, now he did get he just
posted, he posted a few hours ago that he turned down age 24,
which is interesting. He.

(34:27):
Turned that down. That would have been a perfect.
Age 24 movie which is the thing it would aesthetically yes yes,
but it could have been the attorney turned him down.
I didn't watch the video of why he turned him down, but he could
have turned him down for bigger reasons.
Because I'm a myriad of reasons.Yeah.
So sometimes it's like, yeah, you studio wants to come to you,

(34:48):
but like maybe they want to change it up, maybe they don't
want it to be so. I feel like a 24 though is so
they do they usually. Have a good job with the indie
movies and all that, but honestly, I don't know.
All right. I don't know, I think.
That more luck to you, more I wish you nothing but success.
Yeah, and I would like to see Super *** how on the mid

(35:11):
screens. I think that'd be very fun.
I would love to see it. And enjoy both.
Yes. Next up in the movie sphere,
Scary Movie 6 is coming back. Yes.
And not only is it coming back. So are we getting Anna Faris?
Shout to you and the Icon, Regina Hall.

(35:39):
And it is, as I feel like we reported this some time ago,
Scary Movie is back in the control of the weigh insurance.
Yes, finally. So finally, we are coming.
Out two years, two days before my birthday.
Two years in two days. Two days, OK, but but next year.

(36:02):
But next year. Next year, OK, Next year, 2 days
before your birthday. 2026 OK this is the first time in 18
years that the brothers are writing an original script for
the restart of the horror parodyfranchise they're brothers, so
they're. Happy and they're singing and
their colors. They are writing and producing

(36:23):
the movie alongside Rick Alvarez, Jonathan Glickman,
Alexandra Lowey and Thomas Zadra, our executive producers.
So this is going to be great. Variety says that Scary Movie in
2000 was one of the highest grossing R rated horror movies
of all time. It opened at a $42.5 million at

(36:47):
the box office. And this is the thing that's
like always fucks me up. Like when obviously we grew up a
scary movie, but learning about how the brothers basically had
it stolen from them. Yeah, and that's why they came.
That's why not they as in the brothers.
But that's why for a long time all those parody movies would

(37:08):
come out, meet the Spartans and.And what?
Was it like teen movies? No, no, no, not another teen.
Movie was not was not a part of it.
Not nothing. Movie was not apart.
So there were so many of those like parody types.
I'm grateful that we actually moved away from that because.

(37:29):
Because they would come out every three.
Months and they weren't that great.
Scary Movie was like funny. It was good.
I'm going. To look it up.
But but I remember between the time, like throughout high
school, it felt like we were getting 1A year, at least one a
year. How many of these movies can we
possibly do? And people were going to watch
them. They love them, but Harvey

(37:51):
Weinstein, the monster that he. Is Oh boy.
Yeah. So it was it was basically the
the people who wrote Scary movie, The original Scary Movie,
not the people who directed it and produced it because it was
directed and produced by the Wayans, obviously.

(38:14):
And then yeah, date movie, epic movie, meet the Spartans,
disaster movie, vampire sucks, starving games.
Best night ever and super fast. Well, I'm looking forward to
them being able to reap, revamp this movie franchise, the movie

(38:36):
franchise, and can I say Marley Wayne's has been looking real
good, OK. Well, you saw him in the hymn.
Trailer I I still see him in that he's.
Looking really good. He's looking.
That movie is not looking great though.
What do you mean? Have you been hearing bad
things? No, I haven't been hearing bad
things. I've I just I looked at the

(38:58):
trailer. I I didn't get the same thrill
or that I got when I got to the trailer for Us or Nope or what
was the first one? Get out.
Get out. Well, I well I it.
Didn't hit me. It didn't hit me.
It was. It was.
Is it? Do you think maybe it's because
it's sports related? You're not really into sports.

(39:19):
It's not even that I'm. It's not.
I don't think a good movie, evenif it's a sports movie, can hook
me. Yeah, like, I love Raging Bull.
I love that movie. Yeah.
And all the Rocky. Well, not all the Rocky, but
some of the Rockies and all the Creeds.

(39:40):
All the creeds you do love all the.
Creeds. I do love all the.
Creeds so I I I was really interested in in like watching
the trailer, but then looking over scouring the the teaser
poster because people were like pointing out different things.
I was like looking at his hands,looking at like, is it supposed
to be the devil? Is this guy supposed to be a

(40:01):
sacrifice? All these different things.
So I think it's going to be interesting to either way.
No, it's going to be interestingregardless.
I just don't. It's not pulling.
It and you heard that you heard that Jordan Peele wanted to
direct weapons. So yeah, I OK, I did not hear
that. Now weapons.

(40:22):
I know it's a horror movie. Yes, it is.
Horror. What is it?
Do you know what it's about? Is it cake?
No, I don't. It's.
Something to do with kids or? Something.
Yeah, it does have something to do with kids.
I think you're like an elementary school.
Is that the? One where the kids go missing.
Yeah, they go missing. Yeah, it was a girl from the
Ozark. Yeah, girl from.
Ozark saying, yeah, I OK, I didn't realize that that's what

(40:43):
the name of the movie was. I I, I did hear he wanted to
direct weapons. I think he probably would have
done a great job. I think he would.
Have done a great job too. At the same time though,
apparently Weapons is really fucking good.
And I here's the thing. It's been a long time since I've
wanted to see a movie in the theater.
Yeah, I might actually want to see Weapons in the theater.

(41:04):
Like an Alamo draft house. It's OK, I can go by myself.
Odie, you hate horror movies? I still want to go.
You, you want to subject yourself just for the sake of
getting out of the house, Yeah. Yes, we go to Nighthawk and do a

(41:26):
double feature of weapons and whatever.
Very family friendly movies. That get the fuck out of.
The house. No, I mean, you know, I think
that some movies are meant to beseen in theaters.
Yeah, just like sinners. Exactly.
And look, I saw sinners. Yeah, but that wasn't as horror

(41:47):
based as Are You Kidding me? Like it had pussying.
Well, put that in the movie. I'll be there in front row
center. Yeah, I don't know if weapons
has. Pussy.
I know, I hope not. Oh yeah, with the kids.
OK, Yeah. Well, seeing you Scary Movie 6
not a lot of material to get getthrough because we.

(42:07):
Have a lot of material to get through.
So we are looking forward to that.
All right, next, there has been a bombshell.
Not a bombshell, but some new information has come out
concerning the movie Belly. Belly.
Now if you have not seen Belly, a super iconic black film from

(42:30):
the 90s, that is where we got the first like that blue
lighting that was so popular andinsecure, but she just did
better exploitation blaxploitation but updated.
It was everything about it was like.
I'm going to see where belly is showing.
Didn't we try to? Didn't we try to watch it?

(42:51):
Did we watch it like last year? We we tried to watch it.
We never actually watched. It but it's such a great movie.
Showing nowhere, unfortunately of.
Course this is but one of the. Not buying it.
One of the stars of the film, Terrell Hicks, who she plays DMX

(43:13):
girlfriend in the movie. She has like, I feel like her
role role is pretty iconic 'cause she's so gorgeous,
everyone loved her, etcetera. But she dropped a little bit of
a bomb about her role and her one of her iconic scenes in the
movie. Let's hear what she had to say.

(43:35):
She dropped the bomb off me. It was a professional and his
wife was on set. She was a beautiful woman.
Literally. I did my work and I went home.
So the infamous scene that everybody talks about, I really
hate to bust everybody bubble because that wasn't me.
Years late, I spoke to my body double and she told me when you

(43:57):
left the set, they tried to get me to do the scene.
I didn't want to do the scene. So she's like, they they called
in somebody else. And I was like, wow, because I
didn't see that scene until we went to the premiere and I
looked at hype like what? What is this?
Like, I thought I was just goingto be in here and being bad and
doing some cussing. You know, that was that was
going to be my sin, the cussing.So I'm like, what in what is

(44:21):
this scene? So I was like, you did me dirty,
dude, but OK, all right, whatever.
But I knew after that movie, everybody was going to approach
me to do roles like that and I was I was going to be turning
them down. So when you saw the gaps in my
career is because I was getting those kind of roles and I was
like, that wasn't even me. I'm not doing that Like I have

(44:42):
kids. I'm not I'm not trying to do
that right now, like or ever. Back then, you couldn't really
choose like what your character would was going to be doing
outside of what you did on set. I didn't have any control over
that. But it's all good.
Keisha is an icon. I learned a lesson and I'm just,
you know, I'm able to tell people that's that wasn't me.

(45:04):
OK. So look back in the day, they
didn't have any agency when it came to the roles and the type
of roles and what they did in those roles.
We've come a long way do. You think Hype Williams is
fucked up for doing that to her?Like do you?

(45:24):
What do you like? I have feelings about that.
You do. I feel like I feel similarly to
in regards to this, the same wayI felt when I learned that
Sharon Stone when she was in Basic Instinct and you know, she
does her iconic scene when she crosses and open her.
Legs. She didn't know.

(45:45):
That she had no panties on. She they knew she had no panties
on. They were like, no, it's fine,
we're going to fix it and post it.
Yeah. And then?
She kept and she of course, likethat's what she saw and she said
she smacked the guy, but was like, whatever, like here I'm, I
got to do it. And I feel like it's the same
type of exploitation that women in Hollywood go through.

(46:06):
Because The thing is, her careerwas changed and altered.
Based on based on that team. And not to say, obviously.
She got a bunch of roles that she had to then turn down
because people assumed that it was like she's the sexual vixen

(46:27):
when she actually when she actually isn't.
And I think that's the part where it's like, of course it's
a movie, but when you are filming a movie, especially when
you film like a nudity or sexy or whatever, those things, even
when it's not you, people still kind of look at it and be like,
oh, that's what you look like. Regardless of how many times you

(46:48):
could say there was a body double, they had those like
whatever prosthetics. And I think that's fucked up.
And it's like, would he have done that if it was a man?
Like, I don't know, like would he have not told her?
Like that's the part that I feellike it's fucked up.
And she's very gracious and giving.
She's giving him a lot of grace,benefit of the doubt and.

(47:09):
Do we know is if that is DMX in the actual sex scene or if he
has a body double? For we don't know, but he would
have, But I would I would wager that he at least knew he was
going to be in a sex scene. I see what you're saying.
So that's the bare minimum of this is the the notion of it.

(47:31):
And it's like I of course, like we said, like you were saying at
that time, we didn't nobody had the agency, male or female
regardless. And it's but it's like being a
dark skinned woman in Hollywood at that time already, even now,
already so hard. So thinking that she had because
I think when I was looking at her IMDb after belly her movies,

(48:01):
it was like almost a decade between the next like, you know,
feature film that she was in. Let me just double check, but
I'm curious of like what your thoughts about that are and just
like. I think it is fucked up if she
wasn't informed that there wouldbe a sex scene if it if it if.

(48:29):
And mind you, there's a good chance that a lot of this shit
could have been shot on the fly.Like belly is not Godfather, you
know what I mean? Like I don't, I don't sit here
thinking that there is a fully developed script from top to
bottom that all of the actors were given for belly, you know

(48:53):
what I mean? So it's a good chance that it
was developed on the fly and there's a good chance that maybe
somebody, hype Williams or whoever thought that, oh, this
scene needs to be judged up. This could be a sex scene.
They bring it. They bring the idea of doing a

(49:14):
sex scene to her at that point after she had signed on.
But no. But they never brought it to her
because they didn't tell. They didn't ask her to do it.
They asked her what didn't she say?
Did she say that? They asked her to do and she
said no. And then they asked her by a
double. Yeah, I thought that's what it.
Was and yeah, I think I can see that happening, but I think it's

(49:37):
the part of just not telling herthat it happened is the part
that's fucked up 'cause like, OK, her first movie, which is
how I was introduced to her, sheplayed Jane, the black love
interest in A Bronx Tale who plays the guy who's supposed to
be Chaz Palma Teri. Oh, she's in preacher's wife.
Yeah, but she was just like a teen in the movie.

(49:58):
OK, but after Belly, So between A Bronx Tale and Belly, two of
her big movies that I know her from, that was like a five year
difference. But she had a bunch of stuff in
between that. She was in Soul Food the series.
But between Belly and soul food,even then, that was only one
episode. That was Belly came out in 1998.

(50:19):
She was in that in 2003. The next time she had a major
role was in 2000, five in the salon.
And then, you know, she had morelike consistent, but like the
way that she's consistent throughout the rest of her
career, then the gap between belly and even soul food is like
a lot, 5 years a lot for an actress.
Five years of a gap is a lot for.

(50:40):
A lot. So I just think that's like,
that's 'cause it's kind of shitty.
And I just wish that even if menin Hollywood aren't doing
something predatory, like physically predatory, I think
the lack of consideration for the women they were working with
is predatory. And I think he deserves her an

(51:01):
apology. He deserves to give her an
apology, even if she's being gracious and all that, because
you just, it wasn't necessary for you to not tell her because
obviously she's going to see themovie.
So at least giving her the headsup, giving her time to talk to
her agent and make work some things out.

(51:21):
Like, I just think that's just like a common courtesy.
I think that the lack of the common courtesy is the problem
and therefore an apology should be given, yeah.
Yeah. Apology just for just for that,
you know what I mean? Even because I think there's a
because based on the IMDb it looks like that did hinder some

(51:43):
things. And so I mean, thankfully she's
still working, you know, and I hope that she gets continues to
get real. She's still gorgeous.
She's still a great actress. Like I would love to see her
more things. Sure.
But it's like, you know, I thinkthis is kind of when you talk
about the plight of women in Hollywood, especially black
women, especially dark women in dark skinned women in Hollywood.

(52:04):
It's layers on layers on layers and constantly having to
navigate those really ragged waters where people are not
really taking you for who you are supposed to be and just like
dumping shit on you, which is nice.
All right, what's next? What is next?

(52:28):
Who it is? I'm literally, I'm so hot,
right? Yeah, I am too.
I am too. I cannot like I love.
I love summer. I love it.
I don't love being in a basementin summer where.
Yeah, it feels like summer. The windows cannot be just, you
can. Feel it in the shirts.

(52:50):
You can feel it feels like summer all.
Right. So up next we have some new
information in regards to the Spider Man universe.
And this is the Spider Man Sony universe, not necessarily the
Spider Man Marvel Universe, Yes.There's a difference.

(53:14):
There is a difference. But.
Sony still has the rights to Spider Man, but they are lending
Tom Holland out to Marvel so that they can make a joint movie
together. It's so honestly this little.
It is confusing. It's so confusing to me always.
But Daniel Kelua is going to reprise his role as Spider Punk.

(53:41):
If you don't know who that is, let me share a picture for you.
Go watch Across the Spider verseright now.
So Spider Punk, he's the one that has the mullet.
Like, you know the mullet. He's British, he's cool, he's a
rocker. And I don't.
I don't even realize that that was Daniel K Luan first, But I'm

(54:02):
looking. I'm here for it.
Hobby, yeah. I.
Did you remember seeing it? You remember seeing them in in
Across the Spider verse, right? Yeah, Yeah.
I just watched that movie on my break the other day.
The other day. Well, I watched.
I watched some of it on the train and some of it on my
break. What was Oh on Disney?

(54:22):
Plus, yeah, Disney Plus. Yeah, I wouldn't mind watching
that tonight. That's a good movie.
Yeah, we got time. Yeah, so I would.
I'm looking forward to that. I would actually like to see his
own universe. Yeah, like what, what would a,
what would a spider man, a punk spider man be like in London?

(54:43):
You know what I mean? Like.
Protest in Gaza for for Gaza he would be freaking.
He he would be anti anti fascist.
Anti fascism. Who would his villains be be?
And and mind you, this is the this is the part of the
multiverse of Marvel that I I never grew up with.

(55:04):
So like, Spider Punk is out of my depths.
As far as like the nerd, becauseI think that was kind of after
when we got older, right when hewhen.
I don't know when Spider. I I actually don't know when
Spider because I don't think it was a part of the Ultimate
Universe. That's the Ultimate universe is
where Miles Morales comes from. That was that occurred when I

(55:27):
was in middle school. So that was early 2000s.
Oh, really? Yeah.
Yeah. And you know, only my brother,
he loves Spider Man. And he was like, I remember when
he was younger, he was like, I want to be able to like play
Miles Morales. No.
And I'm like that. I didn't even.
When I was younger, I wanted to be Static Shock.

(55:49):
That's part of the reason. That's part of the reason why I
grew my hair out for dreads is because, like I thought.
That's so cute. I thought I I'm doing stand up,
maybe I can get seen by an agentand maybe I can get static
shock. I love that.
Obviously it didn't happen, and obviously it didn't happen
before I lost my dreadlocks. But hey, if Makai Pfeiffer can

(56:13):
have dreadlocks in Eight Mile, Ican have dreadlocks.
Jesus Christ. Had dreads.
All right, so let's move on to our last movie.
I think it is. So we have a new docu series

(56:33):
that is coming out by Kanye West.
It is. About Kanye West, I don't think
it's by Kanye West though. Oh, you're right.
Nico Balestros is directing, producing and editing this
documentary, which was produced by Simran A Singh.
And they're calling it a raw andoften unsettling portrait

(56:55):
without commentary or conclusions.
So according to The Hollywood Reporter, Kanye West gave the
director unfair access to his life breakdowns and inner
circles for six years. So that is what how this

(57:15):
documentary come about. So I would say it's kind of by
him if he's what he was allowed,he was allowed of allowing.
Yeah, but this is he's not producing it or no, he's not
producing it. He just gave access to his life
over to the cameras. That tells me everything that I
want to know about this documentary.

(57:36):
It's not produced by him. It's not, it's not going to be
colored in a way that makes him,you know, that that glorifies
him. Yeah.
It, it seems like there's going to be a unbiased, raw take on
what Kanye has been up to for the last few years.

(57:59):
And honestly, I would like to see.
This I would like to see it. Mainly because I want to see if
maybe there is some human elements to this man that I used
to like his music and love his music and stuff like that.
I used to call him A. Genius.
He's so the documentary is called In Whose Name?

(58:22):
It's coming out September 19th. So soon.
The Balustros was 18 when he started shooting the
documentary, and he has more than 3000 hours of footage.
Jeez. And so that into a narrative is

(58:43):
really. Impressive so I think that that
to me, honestly, if you could doall that that that's that's a
great feat to having all that content.
It's hard to it's hard for us toedit for an hour and a half two
hours to figure out what we want.
So 3000 is crazy work, but I, I don't know.
I I don't know what could make me feel differently about Kanye

(59:08):
now. I'm not, I'm not looking forward
to it in the hopes that it will make me feel different about his
music because I, I stand where Istand.
Like I I he's been on a abbreviated hiatus within my
playlist. Yeah, like I don't.

(59:29):
If his song comes up, I may skipit.
I may not depending on what the song is, but by and large I'm
not jumping to play his. Music, just like, OK, you said
that Harriet Tubman wasn't freeing the slaves.
Slavery was a choice. You, you.
You told us that. Some Hitler Nazi stuff.

(59:51):
You doing how Hitler's You're constantly telling us all these
terrible things about yourself and your just your child's
mother and you're stalking her. And he did some stuff with his
cousin. Oh, so why do we know that?
And not to say that we not to say that if he was letting this

(01:00:13):
go and some sort of cathartic thing, but it doesn't feel like
that. It feels like every single thing
that he has been doing since like 2016, if maybe not a little
earlier, has been self aggrandizing.
And it's like you can't you, youdo all this bullshit and then

(01:00:34):
you pop something in that's going to make us want to feel
for you. Of course we would want to feel
for you if you're telling us youmay have been essayed by your
cousin or whatever was going on with you guys.
That's not like it's that's a lot going on, but I don't
believe him. He's still a raging homophobe, a

(01:00:54):
raging transphobe, whatever he'sgot going on with his wife or
ex-wife Bianca, when he's alwayshas her in this humiliation kink
that they've got going on. Like it's just too much and I
and I don't even he you have a song with Diddy and wanted to be
like, oh, he's the greatest whatever, like I there's.

(01:01:14):
He has. I was with his.
Son, oh, sorry, his son, this whole album was his son, but
that was a whole thing with him doing that because his ex-wife
Kim Kardashian is like, you're having our 1213 year old
daughter around this man and hisson who have been having these
allegations. I don't like that.

(01:01:35):
And it's like, fuck you for making me even defend Kim
Kardashian, but like, sure, why would I want my child anywhere
in this man's orbit? It's just too much.
And I just, I think this this documentary is actually going to
make me sad because it's going to be really seeing the downfall

(01:01:56):
of him. And it was like earlier we were
watching that video of there wasa video of him and Pharrell from
when he like when he was recording College Dropout and
Pharrell was like, I didn't realize you would.
You were recording with your mouth wired shut.
He's telling him like, you know when you get up or you get

(01:02:18):
famous, like keep your hunger, keep being you, like all this
stuff, keep your perspective and.
Bless you. That is not what has happened.
It's just been he has no perspective.
He I don't, I don't think that he's not a, a musical genius,

(01:02:41):
but I also think that he is a complete narcissistic asshole
and abuser. So it's it's so hard.
And when I was in Germany with my cousins, we were hanging out
one night. We were talking to these German
girls and they were like, what are your thoughts about Kanye?
And it was like, I don't even like old Kanye.

(01:03:03):
Can you, you want me? Like, do I still like old Kanye
we've gotten? To the point where I don't even
do the I miss the old Kanye typething because it's like it's,
it's what current Kanye is doinghas kind of eroded old Kanye
stuff. Exactly.

(01:03:24):
Like I because it you know what it is, Kanye West is Game of
Thrones in that I cannot watch early Game of Thrones knowing
what where it ends, where it ends and where it all lead, what
it all leads to. Yeah, it's it's a it's a tough,

(01:03:46):
it's a tough situation. I I, it's, I feel honestly in
all the situations, I always feel bad for his kids because
like, knowing that they're the ones that the deal and listen to
this ridicule. Obviously they're always going
to love their father. So it's like, do they really
think about it? But just.
I don't even know if it's that obvious.
They got their mother. They got their mother's side of
the family. But The thing is.

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Necessarily mean that they're going to have to always.
You don't always have to love your parent if your parent is on
some fuck shit, you know. People don't recognize when you
have children, even when you aredoing the fuckiest of fuck shit.
Your children love you even if they may not want to, even if

(01:04:32):
they want to distance themselves.
You as a child like you could not help that desire of love and
connection with your parent. Like when I was working in the
preschool and those babies, those little 234 year olds when
their parents came in, the joy and excitement on their faces

(01:04:55):
and me recognizing like when I see my parents, I still have a
portion of that in me still where it may not come out the
same, but it's still that same like, oh mommy, daddy, like
you're here. And when I think it's, it's
worse when they are people who are doing things that are shitty

(01:05:18):
because you have that internal like I want to love you and
reach out for you and grasp you and have this connection, but I
feel like not have to hold. I put a barrier in a boundary up
because of the person you are and that's like kind of a mind
fuck. So we'll see.
I think it's going to be a probably a good documentary.

(01:05:39):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting regardless.
It's not interesting. Hopefully I'll be able to see
it. We'll see what happens.
We'll see. All right, now let's go through
a rapid fire music stuff becausewe have a few rapid fire ones
and then we have ones we can talk.
About yeah, sure. So Jeddy just came out with a
new album called God Does. Yeah, wait, let me, let me get

(01:05:59):
it for you. Like Ugly God does like ugly, I
believe. God, yeah, yeah, God does like
ugly. It has the clips on it.
Then Staples. This guy called West Side Gun.
I don't know who that is. West Side Gun is a group.
Not. Oh, yeah, You know, that reminds
me of that. Reminds me of that Aziz Ansari

(01:06:20):
bit is just like, have you heardof Wu Tang Clan?
Yeah, I know him. He's good.
So there's other some other ones.
Sierra's on there, Don Toliver, Earth Gang, Black Ty Dolla Sign,
Baby Kia, Jesse Ray's. He had a lot of people on here.
Yeah, he does. So good for him.
He is a bunch of producers. Look, I, I mean, I love JJIDI,

(01:06:42):
always love his music. I always love his samples.
His features are other people's music.
So I'm looking forward to this and I would like to listen to
it. Yeah, I've already listened to
the album. The album's really good.
How is it long No son? Is it one of those micro albums?
No, it's not a micro album. I think it's the right amount of

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albums. Tired of getting albums that are
like for 40. Minutes long.
It's not. It's about hold on, here we go.
It is about OK. It's about 57 minutes long, all
right. And 15 songs.
All right, that's not terrible. Yeah.
It's crazy to me how, like when we were younger, you couldn't

(01:07:23):
have an album if it wasn't like an hour.
Say that again. You couldn't have an album out
when we were younger if it wasn't like an hour.
Well, we also had like fucking kissingles, like where we were
buying just like the Oh my God, my one day I'll tell you about
how for the testosterone weekendI would just play the kissingle

(01:07:45):
that I had for Purple Hills. Oh, I love that.
Over and over and over and over and over again.
Yeah. Purple Hills.
Yes, JD, we legitimately just listened to Yes, all of JD's

(01:08:09):
now. How did you like it?
I liked it. It was good.
Yeah. I think I always like JD's work,
so kudos to you, brother. I I don't know what JD looks
like. What hairstyle does he have?
If you were to guess JID based on what you've heard from him,
what hairstyle does he have? Maybe some?

(01:08:34):
Kind of hair grown out. I would say hair grown out,
maybe locks, OK, maybe braids ora fro, but like an interesting
kind of. So either locks or braids or a
fro. There's nothing definitive, no.
Listen to what I'm saying. Sure his fro it not like a full

(01:08:56):
one, but maybe not fro fro but like he has some hair grown out,
tapered up, maybe color. OK.
'Cause I think that he could be interesting like that but
tapered or like maybe some corn rolls or maybe have some of the

(01:09:16):
the the mini twist little ASAP or little A$AP Rocky braids.
All right. Are you ready to see him?
Yeah. All right.
Close your eyes closed and 1st. Reactions.
First reactions of what Jetty looks like and open.
All right, I knew he was going to be like brown skinned.
I knew he was brown or light skinned and the first the main

(01:09:40):
one I thought was going to be locks but I didn't want to
stereotype him as a rapper with who who raps about.
He's from Atlanta. Indie stuff, Yeah, that's cool.
I like him. I like his look.
Yeah. All right, Next up, Chance the
Rapper. Shout out to you, Chance the
Rapper. He came out with his new album

(01:10:06):
Starline. I enjoyed the whole thing.
Glad to see you back. It definitely makes up for that
other album, The coloring Book. No, I'm talking about the The
big Day, the one about his. Wife.
Oh yeah, my. Wife.
I love my wife. I think that he put that out

(01:10:27):
after he was in Carnival gettingthe wine.
Apparently when he was when he was at carnival doing the wine,
they were separated already. Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One thing I want to shout out is
one song on the album. It's called Drapetomania.

(01:10:48):
We've talked about this on the podcast before.
I gave you the definition. I want to remind folks that
Drapetomania was the sickness coined by Doctor Samuel
Cartwright in 1851 about coiningthe term for describing why

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enslaved black people were running away.
Which I think that I I like thatbecause in that song he talks
about loving Tupac 'cause he shot 2 cops and that he also has
a chain that says fuck ice. Which I think is great.

(01:11:30):
But I think that to me, I want more rappers to be coming out
with albums that are going to have things in them that are
going to make people think, why would this be?
What what is in the song? Like obviously in that in the
song he had in the he's mentioning different things that
can make you think and the name of the song.

(01:11:52):
And if you've never heard of theterm Drapedomania, that
hopefully a person listening to it would look it up, but I liked
it. What did you think of the album?
Oh, I actually liked it. I think it was a return to form.
Definitely a bass improvement from his other project The Big

(01:12:15):
Day. He needed this album.
He did. He needs.
Because he's been clowned for that last album for so long.
It's been 6 years since he came out with the The Big Day.
I think six years and he needed something good to bounce back.
And I'm not saying this is a perfect album.

(01:12:37):
I'm saying this is a good enough, it's a good enough album
that it makes me interested in listening to his new stuff.
So it's one that I would describe as an album where it's
a no skip album, but not it's not an album I'm going to want

(01:12:58):
to listen to everyday, but. I don't know if it's a no.
Skip. Well, I think about a no skip
album when I say no skip. The bare minimum for a no skip
is when you're playing it that Idon't tell you to change the
song. That doesn't mean that I love
like there's no skip. Obviously when I say like
Beyoncé's no skip, it's completely different level.
You know, Kendrick, no skip, completely different level.

(01:13:19):
He's not like on that level for this one.
But I I enjoy all the songs. So you, you would, you would
not. It's not that it's a no skip
album, it's that if it was playing you, you would listen to
it all the way through. Yes.
OK, in that aspect. So it's a, it's a, it's a, it's
a completion album. Yeah, I don't mind that.

(01:13:39):
I don't mind any of the songs. Nothing on there.
I was like, I don't want to listen to it.
So I think that's great. Yeah.
So. That's good.
Oh, sorry, I should have, said Chance the Rapper.
So it's good for him. I think he's, you know, he he's
been needing a influx of new energy and this is it because

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he's been so long, he's been being clown not just for the big
day album, but also just his persona, being sober, being
Christian, being like a goody 2 shoes, whatever, I don't think.
Here's the thing, he wasn't clown for that.
While the music was good, I think it was once he came out
with The Big Day, a whole album about loving his wife.
Yeah, that's what made him. Court because people felt it was

(01:14:23):
fake and then they. I don't think it was that it was
fake. I think it was, it was too
earnest. It was.
It was literally. Maybe because he was when I say
fake, I mean like trying too hard.
Because if we know if you're saying when they when he he this
album came out after the whole thing with the wine, right?
And then he puts out this album.No, this didn't come out after

(01:14:45):
This came out before the whole wine.
It did, yeah. That's why it was such a big
deal, because he had just came out with an album about how much
he loves his wife and now he's out here whining on people at
Carnival. Well, crop over what maybe also,
when you think about it, if if he maybe because because he was

(01:15:08):
trying too hard to like push a point in that incense.
Like, sure, it was something that about the album that I
think people felt was disingenuous.
Yeah, it was. Well, I don't know about I, I, I
can't speak to disingenuous. I just think that it was
somebody who listened to the entire album.
I found it corny. I found it corny.

(01:15:30):
I found it. Even as a real.
Lover very repetitive as a real what?
A real lover. As a real lover.
Yeah, you know when they say like only real lovers?
No. That's not, that's not a
colloquialism where I'm from, sis.
But no, it was, it was just, it was just kind of, it was just

(01:15:51):
kind of corny. It was just a corny album, a
corny album about loving his wife.
And then they got divorced. Starline is not corny, so.
Good for you. Yes.
No, it is not. And thank you for putting out
something that we can listen to and can learn something from.
Sure. All right, Next up, the next new
album has come out from our iconBuddy Guy.

(01:16:13):
Yes, Blues icon if you watch Sinners.
You know who he is. You.
Should know who he is. The new album is a Chicago Blues
album titled Ain't Done with theBlues.
I listen to a little bit of it. So far it's Blues.
If you're a fan of Blues, you'relove this Blues.

(01:16:34):
Out. Yeah, he put it out for his 8th,
9th birthday. What can I just say?
How awesome is that? Yeah, that he's still kicking it
and putting out new music at hisbig old age.
Like he's just having such a resurgence, even like, you know,
he has sinners. People are now, even if he had

(01:16:55):
always, he's been a musician fora long time.
He's destroying all that. So it's not like nobody knew
about him. But think about the scores of
people who now are coming to hismusic because of sinners,
because they just see like this cool old guy drinking cognacs,
playing the fucking guitar and sounding amazing.

(01:17:18):
That's we love, we love seeing our elders like live their
lives, you know, especially our black elders.
So I always will be putting my glass up for you, Sir.
And I hope that you get all thatyou deserve and all that you
want and all that you desire. And I hope that you have many

(01:17:38):
more years here with us to enjoyhaving your health, your wealth,
and all those things because youdeserve.
It sure, and his name runs near South Park, so there's always
that. Buddy.
I'm not. I'm not your friend, buddy.
I'm not your buddy, guy. I'm not your guy friend.

(01:17:59):
I'm not your friend. Buddy.
All right, now the next album. Well, OK, do you want to talk
about this one first or this onefirst?
Because they're both kind of shit.
I mean, let's let's do this one first.
This one. Are you sure?

(01:18:19):
Yeah. OK, So Drake Drakey.
Drakey. Drink, drink.
Drake Domania. Drake Champs.
Drake champs. There's actually a side note.
There's a, there's a podcast probably called Drake Champs,
right? Probably no, there's a a anime

(01:18:41):
that I really like that had likethat that has a similar name
that I think you would like. What's it called?
I I right now my my brains in too many places.
I can't remember the the title, but I'll find it for you.
It's a it's a YouTube show. Alright, so Drake has a new
album allegedly coming out in. October.

(01:19:03):
October, it is called Iceman. Now let me find the promo cover.
So, so far we've already heard two songs from this album.
Or roll out of this. We have Yeah.
What did I miss? And the one with Central CI

(01:19:24):
don't. Remember that one?
Yeah, that one. The stand up that.
The OK, listen, I'm gonna. Do that time.
I will. I'm never gonna lie.
I don't even know if those are the lyrics.
But I'm never gonna lie. Sounds like it is I.
Do the one with the central seatI do like but I like it because
of central seat I I don't know if I would like it without him.

(01:19:49):
All the girls with the stand up face doing nothing.
But the one where did I miss? Yeah, I just feel like he's
whining on that one and LeBron and my other friends are liking
not like us. Let me this was that I don't
this is a picture that was goingaround for the.

(01:20:14):
Album cover. No, I don't think this is the.
Actual album cover, but it's notthe actual.
But it would be hilarious if it was.
Because this one, the first, theday that I even saw that he was
getting a new album, it was this.
And I was like, that is a terrible first of all, are you
supposed to look like the winternight or whatever?

(01:20:37):
The Night King. The Night King, Yeah, he looks
like, he looks like the, the, the, the Black Knight King.
He looks like the Blight King. The blight King, yeah, because
there's a blight on his career. But I'm curious if what what's
going to come out. I like I, like I said, I've said

(01:20:59):
probably before on this podcast,I think that Drake is always
going to come out with an album.If it's that, if he's doing it
right, it's going to sound good,it's going to be enjoyable,
People are going to want to listen to it because I do like
that Central C song. But the back of your mind is
still going to just it's always going to be a little no.

(01:21:20):
And then all this back and forth.
Now he has with the Kendrick Lamar, not even with the beef,
but like all this legality. Yeah, he's still suing UMG right
now. But folks that have been talking
about this album, I've seen on Twitter saying that now with

(01:21:41):
whatever new details are released are saying he's a 360
deal Now I'm I, I had to look upwhat is a 360 deal?
Yeah, because it's something that like I know about you've.
Heard about it a bunch of times,yeah.
Yeah, So this what I found on NPR.

(01:22:03):
Shout out to you, NPR. We love you.
They have from 2010 describing what is a 360 deal.
So Danny Goldberg, who was at the time president of Gold
Village Entertainment, says a 360 deal is not something that
has a precise definition. But in general, what it means is

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usually a deal with the record company in which the record
company also participates in theincome of all of the other
aspects of the artist work, suchas songwriting and
merchandising, in addition to making money off the records.
He also said most deals are about 270 maximum, not 360
deals. In theory a 360 deal encompasses

(01:22:49):
all revenue that an artist brings in and hence the name
360°. I'm going back and forth between
360 and multi writes. Usually in my writing I call it
multi writes, so there are plenty of artists who have
talked about being in 360 deals.Madonna had a 360 deal with Live

(01:23:10):
Nation in 2007 which gave her 120 million / 10 years and gave
Live Nation a share of her touring revenue.
But it was no money from her recorded music.
And Jay-Z signed a deal with Live Nation that next year that

(01:23:31):
was worth about 150 million / 10years.
And so they describe it working as something like, if Live
Nation is your promoter and whenyou have this deal, they're the
explosive promoter, you're goingto be making money on touring
and Live Nation as a promoter isgoing to take their cut.
So in a multi rights deal that wouldn't change.

(01:23:51):
Once you bring in merchandise, it adds another element to it.
And Live Nation wants to add merchandise to it that it it can
sell at its venues and through its websites, and it can
leverage the relationship it haswith its concert goers and
ticket buyers. Originally, Live Nation did not
want to get into recorded music,and they briefly formed a record
label, Live Nation Music, and actually signed Zac Brown Band.

(01:24:13):
They promoted the first single and then dropped the label and
then Zac went to Atlantic. So then the merchandise becomes
a bigger part of the record labels money because if.
They're not. Doing live music, they need
other things and the other things are tours, merchandise

(01:24:34):
and what other and. Normally normally and a non 360
deal and like back in the old days regular like the label
would make their muse make theirmoney off of the record while
the artist makes their money offof touring in merch.
Yeah, yeah. And so they're saying now that

(01:24:57):
that what's his name, Drake is in his 360 deal.
And that's why when Kendrick waslike, let me see your splits and
I'll get back to you, that he didn't say anything about it.
And with all this new information or whatever,
honestly, I'm so tired of his beef.
And I'm only tired of it becauseof Drake.

(01:25:19):
Yeah, because he's. Kenny just moved on.
Kendrick is just doing his GNX tour having fun even selling out
arena. Not arena.
Stadium selling out Stadium shows he's having a good old
black ass time. Even when Kendrick maybe alludes
to it or he make yeah, if he's on another song and he drop

(01:25:40):
something that you could say, oh, that's probably about Drake
or whatever, sure, that's happening.
But that hasn't happened at all.Well.
I don't know if I could say it hasn't happened.
I would say because I've listened to everything that's
come out since the beat. Think that anything that he did
with you don't think the song with clips or at all, no.
Hadn't. Had anything connected or to me.

(01:26:00):
It doesn't have to be direct. I I went to therapy it told me
how to how to heal and it also told me I don't give a fuck.
Like that had nothing to do withDrake.
That was not his only sentence on the on the the verse.
Yeah, but like it like I, I think, I think Kendrick has
moved. On I think that it at this
point. And that verse was recorded.

(01:26:22):
Kendrick, anything that he puts out, whether it was before put,
maybe he could have been put recorded before or whatever, but
I think that the audience when we hear something he says that
might sound a little shady. I don't think that it would be
far fetched. Would be like, oh, I wonder if
that's about Drake, you know. So that's to me is how it is

(01:26:45):
still from Kendrick's. It's still going on.
It's not anything blatant. It's not anything that he's
like, oh, I'm about I need to dothis.
Can you change something? Oh yeah.
I think it's just something thatwe as an audience are going to
be like, oh, I wonder if that's connected right?
Whereas Drake is literally forcing this down our throats

(01:27:08):
every second and all he. Does is sneak this?
He sneak this thing and also he's making whiny songs about
his friends not liking him. And also now we have this stupid
legality issue, which is so dumb.
Like how? Like I don't want beefs to go
back to the time when people were getting shot, right?

(01:27:28):
I don't want that. I don't want violence.
But like why can't we have a beef and and people just not
liking each other like a? Jay-Z and us that had nothing to
do with violence, it had everything to do with just the
music because it was 2 artists at their peak.

(01:27:49):
Who did not like each other and made very much known through
their music. And if Drake, even if I feel
like he lyrically and all those things didn't match up with
Kendrick in this beef and he kept going, I would still prefer
him being in the fucking booth, getting in the studio and doing
something. But you would want him to make

(01:28:09):
more music. About the no I don't.
I don't want him to, but I wouldprefer that to him calling his
lawyers and trying to this wholelong drawn out bullshit screams
that we are having to deal with because now we have all these
people who are not interested inhip hop who are talking about

(01:28:31):
hip hop because we're talking about it from the legal aspect
and all these other things. I'm just I'm, I'm, I'm over it.
He's gonna come out with this fucking album.
He's gonna also have something on there talking about how he's
the hardest ever and don't let him get his.
He has all these OPS and he justwant to get his boys.
He's probably gonna. Be he saw the What did I miss
video where he was surrounded byguns.

(01:28:52):
I did not watch the weather. I miss video.
You didn't. I didn't really show it to me so
I can react while they keep. OK, alright.
Because I, I like, I've listenedto this song, but I had no
desire to like go and look for the video.
So it would be one of those things where if I didn't see it,
I didn't see it. And I just wish that he would.

(01:29:14):
Sorry, can't play that. Can't play the song but.
We cannot play. Watch it.
Yeah. We can watch it, yeah.
OK. Is he in New York City?
No, look at this. He looks like a MAGA supporter.
This is the MAGA Christmas photo.
Getting ready to like, first of all, this is the thing.
Who's going to have all their guns on the ground like that?

(01:29:36):
Yeah. First of all is by the water.
You don't have to get moist. We don't want to step on
anything. And why are there random guns
standing up? That's.
Too many guns, and not in a, noteven in a in a.
Anti gun. Anti gun way.
It just it seems corny. This is a very corny music.
He's a corny man. He is a corny human.

(01:29:58):
Being. And he's dancing around it's.
Fine with him being corny when he's being like.
If he was just sitting. Or.
Something or I don't know, like I don't know how you could make
this not corny. He just screams Poser.
Yeah. First of all, he's working in
the video. He's working this nine to five,
welding, whatever type of job where he'd be in a jumpsuit.

(01:30:21):
Has he ever gotten his nails dirty ever in life?
He's been working in TV since hewas a teenager.
You don't think he has a manicure every week?
Get out of here. You're not working class, OK?
You're not hard. You.
There's nothing wrong with beinga middle class suburban black
person. There's nothing wrong with it.

(01:30:44):
That is who I am. I grew up hood adjacent.
OK, there were plenty of things that were hood near me and
around me, but I was. Fucking this fucking car
bullshit that he does like. He just is annoying.
Hold on, look at it. Look at it again.
Look at it again. This car dance that he does look

(01:31:11):
no. And you're an old man, Isn't he
40? AM I now or?
How old is? Drake, he should be like 3940.
He's like a year or two older than us.
He's 38. He's a 38 year old man.
He is in his late 30s. We're in our mid 30s.

(01:31:32):
Well, Drake, whatever your album's coming out, I guess
it'll go double dust. No, that's not that's a lie,
people. The the.
Drake are gonna buy it. Drake No, not buy it, but people
are gonna stream it because. Drake has all those in cell guys
who are like up his ass, yeah, who always are like, no, it's
me. It's always, people are always

(01:31:54):
speaking on me. Yeah, all the male loneliness
epidemic dudes will be listeningto it so And lastly for our last
music thing, Lil. Yachty Lil Yachty.
Lil Yachty you. Done goofed.
Has you done fought with the song and now it's?

(01:32:18):
Well, I don't think the song is out.
I think he previewed the song. It's an unreleased track.
So apparently on this track, he says put my knee up on her neck.
I went George Floyd and apparently Steven Jackson, who

(01:32:47):
was best friends with George Floyd and has known him forever
and really led the campaign of like this protest.
He posted it and now deleted nowdeleted Instagram post say that
he called the lyric demeaning and said don't ever say his name
bro none of y'all knew G nothingabout him yeah which yeah why

(01:33:11):
would you say that about him like and.
That's a real one. That's a real one.
God forbid anything happened to me, but I hope that the people
around me in my life would know not to like, try to monetize or
capitalize off of my death with like weird ass T-shirts and
bobble heads and shit. Well, Yadi.

(01:33:31):
Let alone a lyric. Yadi apologized to Steven and so
he said. When Steven went on a podcast,
All the Smoke, he said that he was not upset with him anymore
because Yadi had reached out andapologized.
He said, I took down my post about Yadi, 'cause I'm emotional
about George. I apologize to him.

(01:33:52):
We spoke and he apologized as well.
I saluted him. Not a lot of people like to own
up to when they fuck up. Now, my thing is, I guess
technically this wasn't a publicthing, but I always think if you
do something publicly to apologize publicly, I think he
should apologize publicly just for the sake of you taking this

(01:34:13):
black man's name and dragging itthrough the mud on what would
have been extremely mid fucking song.
You're not adding anything. You're not trying to talk about
his legacy or anything or or probably even talking about
police brutality because the lyric says put my knee up on her
neck. I went George Floyd.
So you're probably talking aboutfucking somebody.

(01:34:34):
Yeah. So there was nothing about it
like that was in any way commemorating or uplifting or
whatever. And I really think like, where
are we as a Black community? Like how do we get to a place

(01:34:58):
where the young people, the middle people, the old people
can just have a bare minimum of respect?
Because I feel like people, the the younger you are, the less
respect there is for who you arein your culture.
Outside of like the what's the word outside of when it's

(01:35:26):
something like really dastardly,but where?
How do we keep the respect of what we are dealing with
currently? Like poignant?
Because I see it a lot with likekids at in school and like even
just kids talking online, they don't seem to really think

(01:35:47):
anything is a big enough deal. And not to say that kids have
ever been like, so mindful of that, like we've all used to
make jokes about. Terrible things.
Yeah. That's just what the youth does.
I literally, I literally Googled.
I googled because I did not knowif this was associated with

(01:36:11):
anything. Yeah, but I googled the phrase
Beat the pussy up like Rodney King.
Who that that sounds familiar. Yeah, Rock Marciano.
Does that sound familiar? Kind of kind of.
But that lyric sounds familiar. Yeah, it it, it is a lyric that
exists. And but The thing is.
Beat the pussy up like Rodney King choppa hiding in the

(01:36:33):
closet. Some kind of thing.
I've some kind of freak. I can imagine that song probably
also. I mean that was like since it
came out in 2018. I wouldn't be surprised if that
song. Wait, is that a white man?
No, that, no, I don't think that's him.

(01:36:53):
I think. Who the hell is these videos?
No, that's not a white. Man stressed me out because they
had all these young genius on the side of all the pictures and
stuff. They had all these pictures of
this young white man and I said there can't be.
You could not it. Was an ad.
But no, I think that like now this is the thing, I think that

(01:37:16):
sometimes when it comes to things that have happened in the
black community or, you know, not even black community, things
that have happened that were terrible in the culture, we have
a certain amount of timeline, right?
So now like 911 is what is almost 30 years old and people
make jokes about it and my, my hearing songs.

(01:37:39):
I mean, honestly, even Jay-Z after the 1993 World Trade
Center bombing, he made made lyrics about that.
Or was it Biggie? But no blow up the World Trade
that was Biggie. So I think that people have
always made what could be like distasteful jokes, right?

(01:37:59):
Or not jokes, song lyrics or whatever to be provocative.
But I feel like Rodney King to 2018, that was like almost 20
years, if not 20 years because Rodney King happened.
We were like 3. Yeah, that's, that's been, it's
been more than 20 years. From 2018.

(01:38:19):
I mean that's more than 20. Oh yeah, it is more than 20
years. Jesus.
Yeah, probably about 30 years. But thinking of like George
Floyd was like just yesterday, 20/20 was just yesterday and for
you to and we're still and it's not something that we have even
moved past. They literally was who was it?
That was, it was either Brianna Taylor or I think it was one of

(01:38:46):
one of the police officers that shot Brianna Taylor was just
like let out of jail or something like that.
Like this that summer of those of those people that passed away
that we all were outside protesting about.
There are cops right now who aregetting off from that situation,
who we are protesting about and pushing back against.

(01:39:08):
And so like, how dare you? I just think it's too soon.
I think sometimes we can say it's too soon when we know that
not only did we not get any justice from it before, but
we're still trying to get justice for it now.
And it's still going on. We are still there was just a
month or so ago. The young man didn't die, but he

(01:39:30):
was juked out of his fucking carand.
Wasn't that Jacksonville? Jacksonville exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not as if this has
stopped or changed between Rodney King and 2018.
It's not that it had changed with the profile of it on TV and
things have changed. So maybe if you were middle, if

(01:39:51):
you were somewhere where you're not like super tuned in, maybe
you wouldn't know about because the social media wasn't there
and all that. But at this point in our lives,
we have no choice. So you have to do better.
Why can't you find another whiteman that was murdered by the
police or something to go joke about or sing about all these

(01:40:12):
people? Just find somebody else.
Get something else to talk aboutand make better lyrics.
I could assure you if we heard that song right now, it would
not be good. Yeah, I wouldn't be bopping to
it, quite frankly. Not even because the lyrics,
just because the song probably is.
It's a little yachty song. I can't think of a little yacht.
What is a little? Soda.

(01:40:33):
What is a little yachty song that is like a bop?
Probably broccoli. That's it with DRAM.
Yeah, I love that song, but whatelse?
Besides that, cold like Minnesota, cold like Minnesota,
cold like Minnesota. I don't know that.
OK, it's called Minnesota. Is he from Minnesota?

(01:40:57):
I don't know where the fuck he'sfrom.
Who knows? Miles McCollum, get your shit
together. Miles, get your shit together.
Yeah, with your ugly ass just. Hey, you don't have to go there.
You can make your point without necessarily going there.
Be kind and rewind, yes, and we'll go to the next thing.

(01:41:23):
Super easy, super easy to rude, do some colors and shit.
It's nothing. To do with color.
Him being ugly has nothing to dowith colorism.
OK, you say so. Do you would you think he would
be more attractive if he was a shade or too lighter?
Not necessarily quick, All right.

(01:41:47):
That's been our pop culture segment.
And now we're moving on to our mental health corner.
Yes, our mental health corner where we check in with each
other to see how our mental health is doing.
Mental health journeys. How are you?

(01:42:11):
Doing I'm doing OK I'm actually meeting with my psychiatrist
tomorrow great and she's been nagging me to get a physical so
that I can check check out checkout check check check check
check it out what what what what's it all about and I'm I

(01:42:33):
guess I probably should do that before things and suddenly
change because. I have been also thinking about
that. It says I have a week of making
appointments. Yeah, doing like it.
It could be like a Friday, all of them in like 1 day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I. How are you doing?
How's your mental? Health drifting on a memory I

(01:43:00):
don't know. There's no place I'd rather be.
Than with you, which is true, but I still feel like I'm I
haven't been in therapy in a long time.
Yeah, and you haven't taken any medication in a long time?
Yes, but sometimes I'm like and I hate to see you.

(01:43:29):
I do. I hate to see you is the
medication do anything and I think that I.
Well, it's doing nothing because, you know, I'm not.
Taking it, yes, but, and I thinkthat this is probably, you know,
my millennial inpatients or something and are just general
inpatients as a society, but I just feel like how long am I

(01:43:52):
supposed to be taking a medicine?
If if it's months, months, months before I feel like OK,
it's doing something. And how am I supposed to know if
it's doing something if I feel like I'm not?
If I'm like OK, I should. I feel like it's doing something
if I'm hitting XYZ benchmarks orwhatever.

(01:44:13):
Sure. But I just, I don't know, maybe
I'm also putting too much pressure on myself.
I think you are and I think you are.
Much like perfection on myself. Because medication when done
right and when taken right, it it's seamless.
Like it doesn't seem like it's affecting you because you have

(01:44:42):
become, for lack of a better word, normalize.
But I so I feel like The thing is when I've taken medicine,
right, I've even had these two different extremes.
Either I was like kind of crazy wired and, and I was having, I

(01:45:03):
was seeing differences like, butnot necessarily all the things
that I necessarily wanted. Like I remember I first started
taking like my Adderall. Like I remember I just like lost
a bunch of weight and I was like, super, well, I'm always
on, but I was like, Oh, I was extra on and also I but I was

(01:45:30):
focusing on things, but just notthe things that I was supposed
to be focusing on, if that makessense.
And then on the other side of itis then like I feel like that
it's either that or nothing. Like I'm, you know, whether
it's, I don't know. So.
Like nothing is probably when it's working.
But I feel like there's no, OK, the point of me taking all the

(01:45:55):
various medicines that I've taken right, is to help manage
my ADHD, to help me get through the day and get through the
things that I need to get through through the day of my
regular daily life. Sure.
And other things are to help with my anxiety and depression
etcetera, all those different things.

(01:46:16):
So I feel like if I am not at the bare minimum getting through
the day-to-day things, I get very frustrated with that.
Well, you, you, you know that the medication is only a
component like that, like you, you still have to come to the to

(01:46:39):
the party you. Know what I mean?
Like the? Medication can give you the
corsage to the prom, but you still have to actually.
Show up ticket. I've got my dress, I've gotten
all the glam squad, I've been the limo, I've reached the
venue. I still feel like I can't get in
the door. And that's the part that is
frustrating because I'm it's this is not like this is not the

(01:47:02):
first. I've taken medicine on and off
since 2017. And the stretches that I've been
on medicine, I'm good stretches of time.
It's not like I, I don't expect it to be a month or two months
or whatever, But if in six months I'm not seeing like a

(01:47:27):
bare minimum something like, I am very frustrated by that
because I'm taking all this medicine.
It's supposed to be helping me and perhaps it could be helping
me in some ways, but the things that I need help with that I'm
struggling with are not changing.

(01:47:49):
And I have the desire and motivation for them to change
and I'm setting all these thingsin motion for them to change,
but they're not changing really and truly.
So I feel very frustrated by that and it pisses me off to be
honest. And I think that's why when
sometimes if I've gone, if I'd say my medicine is finished and

(01:48:12):
there's been issue or whatever about getting them again or like
I've had to do steps that I'm not as like proactive in doing
that because I'm like, well, letme just see how I can do what's
the difference? I don't what's the difference
between when I'm on it and when I'm not on it?
I don't personally see. I don't feel or see a
difference. I'm sure there is some way, but

(01:48:35):
like my energy and my motivationand my all these things, I'm not
seeing the differences. Perhaps maybe there's more
difference in my, my mood maybe,but I just, I'm just not seeing
it and it's very frustrating. So I, I do not say that to say

(01:48:57):
that I will not get back on medicine.
I will, oh, wait, I'm I'm someone who will keep trying
something and beating this horseuntil I know for sure it is dead
and then I will just try something else.
But I just feel, I don't know. I don't know.

(01:49:21):
I just feel like maybe, maybe it's not the medicine's not
working as much as this. I need to change the like places
and spaces that I'm in needs to change.
Sure, like that. I think that perhaps that could
be like that could be the only thing that's different.

(01:49:43):
It's like, how can I try doing something different in a
different space? And perhaps then the medicine
will be working better. But I don't know.
I feel sometimes like I'm hopeless, like a penny with a
hole in it. I know that I'm not.

(01:50:06):
But my intrusive thoughts, yeah,they be.
They be winning sometimes. But I am someone who will always
continue to fight the good fightand try my best to figure out
what is it that I need to get meready to be.

(01:50:28):
And so that's just what I'm doing.
OK, well Speaking of getting where we need to be, how about
maybe Lee push those intrusive thoughts to the side and talk
about the things that made us happy?

(01:51:00):
I love your baby for you. So what is making you happy?
Well #1 happy birthday Ashley, Ilove you.
We had lunch today and went to church for her birthday which is
great. Also, congratulations to my

(01:51:23):
cousin Leandra and her husband Tobias for a beautiful wedding.
It was amazing. I was so happy to see all my
family. I got to see my babies, Kayla
and Desi and the cutest little people.
I got to see Leandra's baby, who's also my baby, and we're

(01:51:46):
besties. So I just, I just had a great
time seeing everybody. We don't always get to see each
other, everybody all at once. So that was great.
I'm I'm happy to be doing this podcast with you.
Sure. And being home and just relaxing

(01:52:12):
and enjoying my summer. How about you?
Doing this podcast with you, I just got finished having a long
break to myself, which I appreciated.
Although I did miss you, I did enjoy the downtime by myself.

(01:52:37):
Like I was able to do the thingsthat I wanted to do, like sleep
and eat and fat so. Uninterrupted.
Uninterrupted. Well, I had a dog.
There's. A little dog somewhere.
Cookie cookie. Come see how.
To the people. And get off the fucking couch.

(01:52:59):
Cutie pie. Yeah, so good.
The little baby we are babysitting or we are cookie
sitting. Speaking of, I'm arranging when
we're when. When your mom is going to get.
Here. So let's say 8.
OK 8:00 tomorrow you're out of here because you shit in the

(01:53:23):
fucking carpet which is my favorite carpet.
My mom bought me this rug and now it has shit particles in it.
We can. Wash the.
Rug we're not washing. How are we washing?
We. Have a vacuum with the steam
cleaner I've washed. We don't have.
We don't have. A steam cleaner.

(01:53:43):
Yes, we do. How do we have a steam cleaner?
I bought it like 2 years ago. When did you buy a steam
cleaner? See how much you use the
appliances in the apartment. I never said I did.
I never said that. Anyhow, we don't have any time
for this. What else did you happy besides?

(01:54:06):
Ooh my friend got a surgery to help with their.
Issues. Does that make you happy?
Yeah, it does make me happy because now they're more
comfortable. Well, they're in pain because of
the surgery, but they're more comfortable in the long run as

(01:54:26):
opposed to short term. OK.
Yeah, so good for them. Shout out to you.
You know who you are and I'm happy that this is going to be
helpful for you back so. All right.
Well, I'm thankful just for doing this podcast with you.

(01:54:48):
Yeah, yeah, this. Podcast is fun.
And enjoy it and I love it immensely.
Yeah, me too. So with that being said, I think
that's everything. So how about we go into the
clothes, take it easy, keep it easy.
Thank you. We will be back next time with
more of this. Bye.
Bye. Thanks for listening to the

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