August 18, 2020 • 39 mins
This week we discuss Kamala Harris, get your mail-in-ballot and vote! And our first call-in guest, Brandi from Michigan talks about, how due to redlining, her community is being poisoned.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
God, how are you very good? Great? They're just getting
set up here, said just farewell us for a second.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey, guys, welcome to Black and White Conversations. I am
Brandy Glanville. I'm Lucas, Lucas Hennay and Lancaster, and we
are going to be talking today about the vice president
nomination right.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Vice president Democratic.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Nomination nomination nomine me.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I did. I took a sleeping for last night. I'm
a little woozy, so I had to I could at sleep.
It's is it Kamala or Kamala Kamala.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Mamala Kamala wala.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Wait for Hannan, wait for Harnand And I used to
call her Harnan and her name is Hannan.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
So it is yes.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And we are so excited that she is the vice
president running mate of Joe Biden. And we have a lot.
Lucas and I were discussing before. But let's I know
she went to Howard like Canans.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Howard Howard, Let's talk about So.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I was reading online she's getting it's been one day
or two days. She is getting trolled online. The people
are trying to change her week Wikipedia, they tried to
call her condo condolm Harris and listen, I can do
that on reality show to Lisa Vanderpumpt.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
But well, also, what is his name is? Charlottemagne have
put out a post to days ago and he said,
but it's pretty much like this, You're going to really
see the disrespect that America has for black women and
so and you see it on social media.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You see, I mean Trump shot out a nasty that's
a little code word for ambitious women nasty.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So you know, But I mean she's very cool. I mean,
she was my favorite. I just knew that America wasn't
going to put a woman in office, let alone a
black woman. And she also is like Asian as well,
and I just yeah, is it?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I own?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It was Asian?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
What is it called from?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Guyana?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I believe? Oh Guyana?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Was Jamaica?
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Well, we don't fucking know ye.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
From because it's only way she could be Asian.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
African American and Asian. That's all I heard.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yes, However, she's got good roots.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Yeah, absolutely, she's a solid candidate like this that trolley
has nothing to deal with her credentials. And actually, I
think because she's so qualified, people are really looking to
bring her down so quickly and to cast doubt of
her talents and just talk about.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Her like whether they're coming after things that don't matter.
I mean they're coming.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
After her looks, her races. They're just oh, is she
a man?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Is she this?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And it's like, are we when we need to be
going after character and her history and is she qualified?
And people are trolling her because she's black, because she's
a woman, because she's strong. They're saying horrible negative things,
but let's be honest, none of that matters. She's the
best person for the job, for the.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Job, I mean, this whole tribal thing, that's why he's
I wore the shirt today because I am like hardcore
progressive and Bernie was really I'm left of Bernie. So
that's why I was pleased with him so much, because
I was like, I like what this guy's saying.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's when this twenty sixteen America was a lot safe
back then.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So if we're talking about the one thing's Trump's done,
he put Pence in charge of this whole pandemic.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I think Kamala will make a.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Perfect person for two or three years, because it's gonna
take three years to four years to get this thing
under control. Then Joe will be eighty one years old
and Grandpa, you know, he got America safe again.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, sometimes you need that hug from a grand
for Joe.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I mean, that's his purpose. I means, because it's nothing.
There's no economy to worry about. Obviously, there's no wars
because COVID ended those you know, conflict. We're bringing back
fourteen thousand people from Europe, which is a whole other point.
But however, because I know Kamala is not she's not perfect,
because I don't like her her I mean, but how
I'm just speaking from a community Black conversation does not
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get caught up with how many people Kamalis jail, because
I'm pretty sure she doesn't have the record for sending
the most Black people to jail for horror a DA.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But also, as a lawyer, your job is to win,
whether it's whether you're defending or you know, it doesn't matter.
Your job is to win, and that's what she was doing.
Whether you know it's right or wrong, or the person's
innocent or guilty.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
That that's after the judge.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Well reform Well also like her policies from ten years
ago are allowed to shift and grow and evolve, and
I think bring it up old tweets, Well this is
what she felt, then, that's what she felt.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I think she was spooked. Beside the Door? Was that
you me or that old movie or Smooking?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It was an old sixty Blacks formation black movie about
it was a classic case of this guy who secretly
did things within a systemically poor environment, like he was
a mayor or something, and secretly he was going back
to tell his people like, Hey, this is how this is.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
What they're doing, and this is how we can defeat it.
So they called the movie the Spook Beside the Door.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Do you think she's a spy?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I think every day from I think I think she
has a moral compass that they can't do anything about.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean the fact that she pledged at African American Sorority.
There's a certain amount of things that she had to
go through in order to complete the process. She graduated
from Howard University can and certain things happened at her
and Howard that are gonna set her compass that we
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can sit back and say, well, she hasn't been in
our community in years, but she's got the foundation.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
That's something they can't change.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's what it really shocked, because I forgot she went
to Howard.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I have to wonder, like why is her level of
blackness even important? Like she's qualified because she married a
white guy, because her commitments a white guy. Next, we
don't really know where it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I'm not going to marry a white guy.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
However, let's just keep it real and I we need
somebody who is going to excite the African American community,
not just the women. Thank you women for doing your thing. Everybody,
guys who like me. No one's excited us since Obama.
Her little jazziness and and you know we like that
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in our community.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You know we like on one second, Jake, you really
have to go low like crawl. You keep on crossing
our camera and you're ruining our entire podcast.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
There you go. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Now in order to get that demographic that won't get
up in the morning and go vote, or at least
now we can show everybody how to vote by mail.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
She can bring that jazzy people out. Spicy people will.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Lie like her, be excited to go and vote yes,
because right now I'm sorry as much. I obviously I
want Biden in an office. Does he excite me?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
He is born grandpa, that is what he is. But
he's safer than crazy, old, fucked up grandpa.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
And people are saying like, you know, yes, no can
it's perfect, but you got to pick the one like
a bus route, pick the one that's going to get
you closest. So we need we should like to be
so Mama and Joe are going to get us closer.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
What it is, Kamala, then she should be the next president.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
She probably will because Joe I would vote.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
For her if she If she just comes through.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I haven't heard.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I don't want him to remember Dick Cheney did, but
I know, I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
She comes through. I think she's already.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
African American women have held this country up the Democratic
Party since the sixties. So I think that if you
look through the Democratic Party, some of some of the
top political people.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
In the history of politics have come out of you know,
Susan Rice, Oh, she was. I'm glad she's on the team.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean, now you know we have our national security
can get under control again.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You know, he can have I see a lot of
women on Biden's eye.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
What I'm excited to go now, I'm very.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
But we are such great leaders. I mean we are moms,
we are a bus as women, we we are.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
On this town.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Well we know we have our hands on the pulse
of so many different things, and so we make decisions
from that perspective, which is a large human are just
kind of like.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Everything about everything because we bring life into this world,
so we have to take care of that life. So
we worry not just for ourselves but for every single person.
And as men, no offense, because I love you, You're
so smart and everything. But I got to boys, you
are definitely simple creatures. You like you whatever. If it's right,
that's where you're going. If it's wrong, it's wrong. There's
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no I feel like sometimes men don't see the emotional
side of things. They see the logical side, whereas women
see everything.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I think that women.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Label everything they feel as emotional and we just you're
just you're going to label emotional. It's just a different
type of emotion. But both people are emotions.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, there's emotionless and emotional.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Okay, great, women see shakes a great.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
It's Women's Day.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
You're the one that just said African American women have
their finger on their pulse.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
They run. You just said it.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, I probably did say That's sounds like something I
would say, Brandy.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
You did just say it. Well, you're watching back from.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Beyonce last week to Kamala this week.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Oh, I mean, I'm excited. I swear to God, I'm
super excited about her.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And but can I just say this on social media,
when we see people negatively trolling, we have to if
we see our friends do in our family, anyone out
there who is negatively trolling and and just acting ugly,
let's call them out. Let's not let it be okay
to tear people down.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
But it's hard to get engaging.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Is that in the fight?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Does that give them the attention they want to keep
it going? I'm so torn on that with COVID how.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Much rent am I gonna leasen my head to these people?
I mean, I got so many things to matter about
their negativity. It's just something. If we don't give them
any rental space, then they go out of business.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
So we don't fight them. We pushed Kamala.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
We pushed positively, We pushed what we want people to see.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
We vote, and they just sit. They'll tell us every day.
Every day you troll on the TV. They're gonna give
us a million reasons to vote. Just vote, Just vote,
because they're trying to play games with the vote.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
And sign up for your mail in ballot. Even if
you're going to go vote, at least get your mail
in ballot. That way, you have it already if anything happens.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
How do you sign up for the mail in ballot online?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
You can sign up online.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I signed up. You can tweeting or something, because I
know people will get it from you.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Absolutely non they'll troll me. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Troll me all you want.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
We don't need guns, we need votes, and we're gonna
have to have a lot that way, you know, we
can change things, like if we flip the Senate, like
in Michigan and one of those kind of swing states where.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
They're really getting screwed down there. I mean, different things
happening all over the country. Yes, and the votes could
kill I mean because Hillary.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Clinton won about like three or four thousand votes.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
A popular vote. But if we showed up like we
did for Obama, right, not, Trump's not way to pull anything.
He's gonna be like, oh my god. You know, who
are these people?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I do feel like Trump is still doing ship be
like illegal ship back there pulling strings trying to I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Know what it is.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Don't the post office. In the post office, that's.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
A great part of the enemy.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean, because the enemy has to assume so much.
They have to assume the assumptions they make. They're assuming
that this demographic African American community is not going to vote.
They're not going to get up and vote. That was
a fluke.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
What happened with a mama was off the loot.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
No, I think that they're now after seeing the rallies
and all approaches, they're knowing they're going to vote. They're
now bounding together and we're going to do something.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Hillary was the best candidate to vote. But I'm into politics.
I do four hours of news to day. But your
average guy, they did not get up and go vote
for for Hillary. These dudes, we're going to roll a blunt,
get the mask and go down.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We're not scared. I mean a mask, get a mask.
We were going. I'm just telling you, November thirty is
going to be a party. We're on it.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean everybody's on it. We you know, these guys
we were trying to loot Beverly Hills. We're going to vote.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
The same people who loot it can now vote and
create ten times more damage. I'll let it go. Damn.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
They can not even damage. It's it's positivity. We're gonna
we're going to create change.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Oh yeah, I'm just trying to scare people. Great damage. Yeah,
and we're gonna go get in line and we're gonna vote.
That's what's gonna scare them. When they turned Fox turns
the news on, they see these people in lines around
these places, and we're not pissed. We know you run
a game. We know that you read a ballot boxes.
We know that no one's like, oh my god, we
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got to count the jellybeans.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm gonna ride mail though, Like I'm not going to
get in a line because of COVID.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
That's what scares me.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I hope everyone that is afraid to go out and
like congregate. I got your mailing balance.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
You go to the pool party.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
We can make it to the party. It's just us three.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
About in life. I saw there's a pool party in
Atlanta every weekend, and I'm like, if they can make
it to the pool party, they better make it. They
better make it to the ballet.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I mean you do you see the crowds of people everywhere?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Cool?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I thought you were talking about our party on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Geez, can I bring a day?
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
What woo?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
What that's called?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm trying to bring it into existence. I'm trying to Okay, Okay,
got it by asking for permission.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I get you that you're gonna meet someone fabulous and
within twenty four.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Hours that I can bring around Brandy.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, we love everyone.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We don't, we don't. We'll interview them. Get ready? Get ready?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
You sure you want to bring around me?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Oh? Highlights.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
We return, we'll be talking to Brandy from Kalamazoo, Michigan,
and she'll be sharing with us about her town that
is currently being poisoned. And underlying issue is systemic racism.
So we continue to have these black white conversations, and
we're incited to bring one of our people from our
communities into the conversation right after this.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Hi, my name is Brandy Crawford Johnson. I am married,
and I'm a mother, and I live in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
I am an environmental advocate and a homeowner. That is
continuously being poisoned by a paper mill, among other things,
in our neighborhood. And I am fighting for our rights
of our African American community as well as every resident
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that lives in Kalamazoo County that is breathing in does
poisonous air.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Well, first off, we read everything that you sent us,
and I think it's really fucked.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's just sad that this has been going on for
so long.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
To tell us a little bit in your words, I mean,
we've all read it, but really, what is your goal?
What is happening?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, in twenty eighteen, I.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Joined the City of Kalamazoo Environmental Concerns Committee because I
have asthma and I didn't have severe asthma before I
moved here, and it just kept getting worse and I
just thought that possibly our paper mill could be the cause.
So I gave the mayor and the members on the
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committee a copy of the American Lung Association State of
the Air Report saying that our city was greated f
for failing for air quality. And I also gave them
a toxic release inventory of Graphic Packaging International, which is
our paper mill, paper and Pole Mill, And to my surprise,
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they sent a cease into sist letter to the data
company for the American Lung Association and USA Today because
they did not want our air quality information and to
be released to the public because they were afraid that
it would ruin Kalamazoo's reputation. And it's all in writing
with the meeting minutes. So after that, I quit, and
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I spoke with a person with the Michigan Department of
Environmental Quality, which is now called EGL E.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Eagle, and.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
The woman that is in charge of our county told
me that they were that graphic packaging was using pollution
prevention and I had nothing that I needed to be
concerned about. And a couple of months ago, I started
getting my eyes started burning really really bad. And then
I was talking to a couple of my neighbors and
they're like, yeah, you know, I didn't have asthma before
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I moved here, and my eyes are burning bad, and
you know, then I started talking to more people and
they're saying, yeah, my dad died from asthma, my sister
died from asthma, my brother, and it's just like the
more people I talked to, the more people I.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Found or died from cancer and asthma. I'm like, what
is going on?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
So I just kept can you tell us at a
little bit about the makeup of your community and what
that looks like so we can get a real sense
of who the people are.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Okay, well, we're called the North Side of Kalamazoo, where
a neighborhood that's located downtown, which has always majoritly been
predominantly African American. And I found out that in nineteen
thirty seven, our neighborhood was actually located into an industrial
area because the government at the time thought that I'm
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quoting what they said. They quoted saying that Negroes were
bad for real estate, so they located us in an
industrial area.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
To kill you.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
I mean, that's what it sounds like, because they don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, they definitely don't like.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
They literally are that they've been killing people for years
and getting away with it, and now they're doing an
expansion to make it even worse. And I'm so shocked
that our county and city commissioners would even allow them
to expand instead of relocating them somewhere way out in
the country, somewhere away from people that are human being
living human beings.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
This almost sounds like an Aaron Brockovich kind of situation,
where like you're gonna have You're going to have to
be the one.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
I mean, somebody's got to carry that torch.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It's the red lining that that your local government at
the time created. It's just our federal government turned the
blonde ode to the fact that local governments is like
it was huge in Chicago. I mean they set the
pace for the rest of the country.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
What's the population where you're about.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Around six thousand in our neighborhood. But I don't believe
that our neighborhood is the only ones affected.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
By the population of Katamazoo Kalamazoos.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
Around seventy seven thousand. They're the seventh largest in city
in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
So out of that seventy seven thousand, how many people
work for that paper meal?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
Not a lie?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Actually, I think only like a couple hundred.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Even this expansion that they're doing six hundred million dollars expansion,
only fifty jobs are being brought.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So I don't think it's that many.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
And what's the income of the of your city? Like,
is it is it a high income area, is it
an affluent area?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Is it a low I would say.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
It's I would say it's middle class, but our neighborhood
is lower income.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
And I think that place because money always plays a part.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I mean, look your taxes, local taxes, you know, that's
what draws everything in your local government. I mean that's
where you're going to have to start with your with
your counselman in your district. Have you had a talk
with him yet? Well?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Yeah, I was on the Environmental Concerns committee with the
mayor and he was one of the people that sent
the ceasent of this letters taught. And I also sent
the city attorney a letter like a couple of weeks ago,
saying you need to you know not so let me get.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
To the part of the chemicals and everything.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
There's been this older that everybody's complained about for years,
that those paper mills on Minion, and I mean people
you have to literally turn off your air conditioning if
you're driving past it, roll your windows up.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And this is just people that don't live here. We
have to do it all the time. We have to
do it all the time.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And so.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I have been doing a lot of foy requests and
finally I had one of them answered and we found
out what we've been wondering for decades with this odor
is is H two US gas. It is a highly
toxic gas that causes practically all the diseases.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
That everyone's getting.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And so.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
I let the city attorney know I know what this
odor is, and I asked him and the commission I
talked to commissioners about this, and I've asked them to
set up public hearing notifying everyone with this odor is,
and ask them to get everyone air purifiers and vapor
mitigation systems because this is just one of many chemicals.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Is your mayor? Is your mayor on the ballot this fall?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, he just got elected. He was actually our vice
mayor and then he became our mayor.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So how about your district or your super your supervisor,
who's on the who's on the ballot right now?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That's who?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, it doesn't the city. The city and the county commissioners.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
They don't care because they actually voted for this, this
paper mill to expand on contaminated brown.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Fields, which is going to make the pollution ten times worse.
Like I said, I've talked to everybody locally. Nobody cares, Nobody.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Doesn't want to help. Nobody wants to help us. I've
notified everybody. I've literally had hundreds of emails and phone calls,
and no one cares.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You're just you're being ignored, right, You're like you're doing
all the work and it's all about the mighty dollar,
and they don't care about your community because it's a
low income community, and they don't think.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I think it's because we're African American. That's the main
thing that I think. But it's low income African American.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But I believe.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I mean, I just did a public health announcement that's
coming out locally finally today at three point thirty and
I and I had questions, and one of my questions
for our government was if we were redlined to be
located in nineteen thirty seven into an industrial area and
it is now twenty twenty and we are still having
to endure this poisoning that is going on.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Are you still racist?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And I know it's a very bold statement.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
To say, but that's what I want to know because
I can't understand why you would allow a company that's
been poisoning the African American population for decades to even
expand further.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, they'll argue that they're not racist.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
However, they're capitalists, and capitalists tend to overlook anny human
rights over the dollar.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I'm assuming that you know your.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Community doesn't hold buy enough paper to hold that company together.
They're producing that paper there in your community, but they're
selling it somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
So oh yeah, they're global, right, so they're graphic packaging.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Company you're in Michigan right now? Which is a U.
Mungus swing steak?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So I would suggest, I mean, I don't want to
try everything political, but it will take politics to change.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
What is your community? They vote Conservative Republican Michigan. It's
kind of hard to tell. So your community Democrat. So
your mayor's Democratic?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yes, I think?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So are you registered to vote? Are you registered to vote?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Some people say they're Democrat? Is the Republicans?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Some people are Republicans, say they're Democrat, Like, I don't
trust the Republicans or the Democrat.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Who's the governor and the governor?
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Because Donald Trump doesn't like her, your governor in Michigan?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Right?
Speaker 7 (25:43):
Oh? No, I notified her staff too, but I don't
know because she has so much going on as she
is going to be.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
This is the time you need to push it because
Biden and Bush, Biden and Kamal Harris, we've got to
win Michigan this year. So you could get this is
a great way to get some attention because your your
it sounds like your community is going to be his constituency.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
The people. We need for those people in your community
to come and vote. And I think you could leverage
your voting group.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I mean, you know, you start something, Hey, we're raising
we're getting people registered to vote. That would bring attention,
because Michigan is gonna get attention. You could next thing,
you know, you could have them there.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
But she's one person that's she's done everything that she
can do. She's like she's like the little guy fighting
for everyone. No one's listening. And I think that that's
why we need to have this conversation. We need to
get this conversation going and out there because people are
dying from this poison in the air and it's not
it's getting worse.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Not I mean red.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Want and I could and definitely this is a political
issue as why I agree with you, But I believe
that a lot of politicians make false promises and once
they can come in office they start, are doing favors
that they would normally do before they became elected, or
you know, getting involved in these little good old boy
networks where you know what, everyone's paying each other off
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to keep their mouth shut or not do certain things.
So I really have not decided who I'm voting for
yet because I don't believe that that many politicians are
really concerned about you know, our health as much as
they should, as well as our environment. I mean the
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environmental poisoning Agency, I mean the Environmental Protection Agency. Their
laws have been scaled back because of Donald Trump, but
I'm hoping that we will have better regulations going forward.
But like I said, we need people that actually care
and that actually are humane, because I've seen more racist
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and inhumane and talk to more racist and inhumane people
than I have ever talked to when I'm forty one
years old, and I I am so appalled by the
lack of just I'm just just the lack of anybody
even caring at all. Like it's just like we need
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to hold our government accountable, our city account of sitting
down to city and county commissioners and our mayors should
be held accountable for allowing us to continue. They should
be held accountable for looking the other way, for even
when they're told what is going on and at and
we're asking for help and not doing anything to help
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us like we should.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
They shouldn't even be both. They shouldn't even be sitting
in the positions.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Oh good.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm sure like this paper mill is probably donating to
all of their campaigns and has them in their pocket
just because they are so rich.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
And that's what I thought. And I had my son
who's fifteen, and he's very into politics as well, but
he looked up to see who donates to whose campaign
because I was curious about that as well. And I
found out that Graphic Packaging donates to Fred Upton, who
is a Republican represented for Michigan. But I did not
see that they've had donated to anyone else but him.
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But he's actually going up for election.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Too, so they're saying that he probably won't get elected again.
So so I'm not sure that would be a good
thing for us.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I have a few recommendations, a few questions actually, so
class action settlement. Also, have you looked into public health advocates,
public health advocates or legal aid lawyers who will take
your case pro bono because of the impact that it's
happening in your community, because there are right now you
are fighting it alone, but there are people and resources
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designed to help communities, just like just like we have a.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Lawyer already and to hear legal work before this. That's
really like, I'm passionate about our health environment, but I'm
also very verse in law, and I hired attorney like
literally immediately when I found out what's going on. So
we do have a class action that is developing at
the moment, but it is towards the odor right now,
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because we were just that was before we found out
what the odor was. Because the older has been you know,
ruining the joy maver or lives. I mean, I have
people crying to me that they can't have barbecues because
no their family want to come over because it smells
so bad. I mean, that's just one example of just
you can't even go outside and enjoy your yard because
of the gas that's coming from this plan.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And it's just unacceptable.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Like there's just so many levels to this, and you know,
like I said, I'm not going to quit, and I
know people do call it. When you said Anne Brockwitch.
People call me that around. They had a lead poising
issue with the city of kalma Zoo. A few years ago.
I bought a house from the city of Kalamazoo and
they were selling other houses pretty cheap, their houses that
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they ran out of funds to redevelop And about six
months after I bought the house, the city of Kalamazoo.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Sent me a letter saying, hey, can you sign this
piece of.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Paper releasing us from liability, saying that we told you
that the house was full of lead pain. I said
absolutely non, I called my lawyer. So they everyone made
a big deal about it, and it was in all
these publications like Jet magazine and New York Times about
I bought the house for thirty two hundred and got
one hundred and fifteen thousand, but I used all the
money to take the lead out of the house, like
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out of the windows, the doors, everything. And then the
company that worked for the state lead poisoning Prevention program
used unsafe work practices, making my home twelve times more poisonous.
This was in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen. And then
the manager of the program, he took the supervisors, he
revoked the supervisor's license, but he let his son's company
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continue working on lead poison children's homes, which are mostly
in African American neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And I literally fought tooth and nail on that as well.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
So it's constantly, the constantly things that I'm constantly trying
to fight for to protect the health of Michigan residents,
the age andcies that are actually there and being paid
to protect us or not doing their job.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Well, a lot of people right now, but this particular
administration they don't believe in the science.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
So that's that. I mean, your fighter is I mean,
no fight is dead. But this is a great time
for you to be organized, and you're going to need
Once we get.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
People who believe in science at the top, then it's
going to should make your job a lot easier. And
I just want to reiterate that in order for people
to get their job at the top, they need you.
I mean they I mean we're in California. It's going
to go a certain way, but where you are right now,
you can get you can leverage where you I mean Michigan. Hey,
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mister Biden, you know you need to come down here
and talk to us we're the we're literally dying. We've
been suffering from all the elements and systemic racism through redlining.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You're perfect, don't.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
If I was a campaign manager, I would fly down
there right now, get you on camera.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Is that the rest of Michigan know, Hey, we're tired
of the nonscience.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I think that's what she's trying to do, all right,
because it's it's hard for one person.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
And then I know all about this science because I've
talked to like tons of toxicologists doctors at the University
of Michigan. Stanford, I mean, Stanford came out with a
study saying that the severe COVID cases, which are definitely
hitting a African American community is harder.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Are linked to pollution. So that is why I feel
like it's not just Michigan.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
But when you know, when you when when we found
out that COVID was existing here and we had a pandemic,
I can't understand why the president was not mailing everybody's
sanitizer and and and you know, chlorox wipes and all that,
like they used to do government cheese, Like this is
common sense stuff, you know what I'm saying, Like you
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should And then you have, you have scientists and doctors
telling you that the that the severe cases of COVID
are linked to pollution, then you should be going to
all the major polluters which are on a list with
the EPA, and making sure they have carbon capsure capturing
all this pollution.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
This is not rocket science.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
This is These corporations are billion dollar corporations. They can
afford to put carbon caps or on their smokestacks.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's really not difficult.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
I mean, Mayor wanted dispensaries put carbon capsure on the
dispensary so the weed smell doesn't get out.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Why can't you do it so the poison doesn't get out?
It's really not rocket science.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Wow, I mean you have set Like what you're saying
really resonates with me, and I feel like you're doing
the right thing by trying to get it out there.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I wish you know.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
We're gonna definitely talk about it more and we'll help
try to help you as much as we can. I
like you're like a little man fighting the fight, and
I applaud you and I think that you're awesome and
you're so well spoken, and I hope that just getting
this out there, getting making the conversation happen, can help
your neighborhood and help everyone. I mean, because you're right,
if if marijuana dissenters could do it, like why should
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not everyone else do it?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Like it's if it's that simple, just do.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
It, right.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I don't understand.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
But like I said, Trump put these little EPA regulations
and cut them back and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
But I can't even say it's just him.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
Because like when I look at the inspection reports of
these toxic ration concers, the EPA doesn't even inspect them
for years, even before President Trump became president.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
They weren't inspecting these facilities like their that's what their
job is, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
So we need to put them on blasts.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We have to, I mean we have They're not going
to do anything unless we dare not to just the
key dare not to say we're going to dare you,
mister mayor not.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
To an EPA official that actually he was making excuses.
He was like, didn't you know pollution prevention is and expensive,
you know thing to do, And I said, yeah, maybe
for some companies, but not a billion dollar corporation that's
using six hundred million to expand on contaminated land.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He can afford the pollution prevention, so miss me with
that one, because I'm not buying it.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
But you shouldn't be making an excuse as you say, yes, ma'am,
I'll be right out there to do that inspection to
protect your health, because that's what the EPA does.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
We're here to protect the health and environment at all costs.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
No, you're sitting here telling me to go to the
CEO because he's going to be afraid of personal injury lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
You're an EPA official. You shouldn't be saying that stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
To me, right.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Oh gosh, Well, Brandy, thank you so much for calling in,
and we will definitely keep this conversation going.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
We'll be praying for you.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I will be tweeting about it a lot today because
I'm annoyed and I feel you have a fifteen year old.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I have teenagers.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
They shouldn't be growing up, know, like getting asthma and
dying before that. They should You were saying, it's just
it's not fair for anyone, but imagine the children growing up.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
So as a team moms, I could afford air purifiers
and taking pollution prevention of vitamins, but a lot of
people they can't, so they have to be able to,
you know, help help everyone here.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Don't write a letter to like there's several senators. Have
you heard of the Green New Deal? There are a
lot of these. Look a look at the people who
wrote that. I know AOC, and you start writing to them,
and you should start to date because they'll be the
ones who will bring attention to like, you know, higher
level people say hey, it's Michigan.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Just trust me, you're in Michigan. It's so big.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
I haven't read AOC. But like I said, I've contacted
everyone that's.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
But she cares.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Help everything I can reach out to to to President
elect Biden.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
But you know, I'm not. I'm not expecting help just
because they seem like they're so focused on the election
issues that they're they've already been focused on.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
But like I said, I will.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
I'm trying to come public with this because I haven't
gotten help at the state, city and county level here.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So hopefully if other people are concerned that, even people
that don't live here, then maybe that will get them
to say, Okay, maybe we should do something.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
I want to tweet about it today. So we got you,
cover girl, We got you covered. Thank you so much,
and I thank Dolling.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
You should run for office.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
You should run. Absolutely, you will tell.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Me that too, But I couldn't work with these assholes.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Good luck out there. Thank you, Brandy, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Lastly, we cannot leave this out, Lucas Brandy. I mean,
I think we should all tell them. But Brianna's killers
still have still not arrested. They're just chilling.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
We're chilling.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, Anna Taylor's killers are not nothing's been done, not
one thing.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
How long has she been buried?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I mean, oh my god, it's about the same time
as George Floyd.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Correct a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
This is insane, just because we have we have George
Floyd's killers, and it's we're not just doing it one
time to say, oh, we did it. We need to
do this across the board. We need to get Browna
Taylor's murderers behind bars.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Let's vote, Plea's vote,
Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
God, how are you very good? Great? They're just getting
set up here, said just farewell us for a second.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey, guys, welcome to Black and White Conversations. I am
Brandy Glanville. I'm Lucas, Lucas Hennay and Lancaster, and we
are going to be talking today about the vice president
nomination right.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Vice president Democratic.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Nomination nomination nomine me.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I did. I took a sleeping for last night. I'm
a little woozy, so I had to I could at sleep.
It's is it Kamala or Kamala Kamala.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Mamala Kamala wala.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Wait for Hannan, wait for Harnand And I used to
call her Harnan and her name is Hannan.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
So it is yes.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And we are so excited that she is the vice
president running mate of Joe Biden. And we have a lot.
Lucas and I were discussing before. But let's I know
she went to Howard like Canans.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Howard Howard, Let's talk about So.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I was reading online she's getting it's been one day
or two days. She is getting trolled online. The people
are trying to change her week Wikipedia, they tried to
call her condo condolm Harris and listen, I can do
that on reality show to Lisa Vanderpumpt.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
But well, also, what is his name is? Charlottemagne have
put out a post to days ago and he said,
but it's pretty much like this, You're going to really
see the disrespect that America has for black women and
so and you see it on social media.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You see, I mean Trump shot out a nasty that's
a little code word for ambitious women nasty.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So you know, But I mean she's very cool. I mean,
she was my favorite. I just knew that America wasn't
going to put a woman in office, let alone a
black woman. And she also is like Asian as well,
and I just yeah, is it?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I own?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It was Asian?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
What is it called from?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Guyana?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I believe? Oh Guyana?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Was Jamaica?
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Well, we don't fucking know ye.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
From because it's only way she could be Asian.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
African American and Asian. That's all I heard.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yes, However, she's got good roots.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Yeah, absolutely, she's a solid candidate like this that trolley
has nothing to deal with her credentials. And actually, I
think because she's so qualified, people are really looking to
bring her down so quickly and to cast doubt of
her talents and just talk about.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Her like whether they're coming after things that don't matter.
I mean they're coming.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
After her looks, her races. They're just oh, is she
a man?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Is she this?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And it's like, are we when we need to be
going after character and her history and is she qualified?
And people are trolling her because she's black, because she's
a woman, because she's strong. They're saying horrible negative things,
but let's be honest, none of that matters. She's the
best person for the job, for the.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Job, I mean, this whole tribal thing, that's why he's
I wore the shirt today because I am like hardcore
progressive and Bernie was really I'm left of Bernie. So
that's why I was pleased with him so much, because
I was like, I like what this guy's saying.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's when this twenty sixteen America was a lot safe
back then.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So if we're talking about the one thing's Trump's done,
he put Pence in charge of this whole pandemic.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I think Kamala will make a.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Perfect person for two or three years, because it's gonna
take three years to four years to get this thing
under control. Then Joe will be eighty one years old
and Grandpa, you know, he got America safe again.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, sometimes you need that hug from a grand
for Joe.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I mean, that's his purpose. I means, because it's nothing.
There's no economy to worry about. Obviously, there's no wars
because COVID ended those you know, conflict. We're bringing back
fourteen thousand people from Europe, which is a whole other point.
But however, because I know Kamala is not she's not perfect,
because I don't like her her I mean, but how
I'm just speaking from a community Black conversation does not
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get caught up with how many people Kamalis jail, because
I'm pretty sure she doesn't have the record for sending
the most Black people to jail for horror a DA.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But also, as a lawyer, your job is to win,
whether it's whether you're defending or you know, it doesn't matter.
Your job is to win, and that's what she was doing.
Whether you know it's right or wrong, or the person's
innocent or guilty.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
That that's after the judge.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Well reform Well also like her policies from ten years
ago are allowed to shift and grow and evolve, and
I think bring it up old tweets, Well this is
what she felt, then, that's what she felt.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I think she was spooked. Beside the Door? Was that
you me or that old movie or Smooking?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It was an old sixty Blacks formation black movie about
it was a classic case of this guy who secretly
did things within a systemically poor environment, like he was
a mayor or something, and secretly he was going back
to tell his people like, Hey, this is how this is.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
What they're doing, and this is how we can defeat it.
So they called the movie the Spook Beside the Door.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Do you think she's a spy?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I think every day from I think I think she
has a moral compass that they can't do anything about.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean the fact that she pledged at African American Sorority.
There's a certain amount of things that she had to
go through in order to complete the process. She graduated
from Howard University can and certain things happened at her
and Howard that are gonna set her compass that we
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can sit back and say, well, she hasn't been in
our community in years, but she's got the foundation.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
That's something they can't change.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's what it really shocked, because I forgot she went
to Howard.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I have to wonder, like why is her level of
blackness even important? Like she's qualified because she married a
white guy, because her commitments a white guy. Next, we
don't really know where it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I'm not going to marry a white guy.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
However, let's just keep it real and I we need
somebody who is going to excite the African American community,
not just the women. Thank you women for doing your thing. Everybody,
guys who like me. No one's excited us since Obama.
Her little jazziness and and you know we like that
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in our community.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You know we like on one second, Jake, you really
have to go low like crawl. You keep on crossing
our camera and you're ruining our entire podcast.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
There you go. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Now in order to get that demographic that won't get
up in the morning and go vote, or at least
now we can show everybody how to vote by mail.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
She can bring that jazzy people out. Spicy people will.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Lie like her, be excited to go and vote yes,
because right now I'm sorry as much. I obviously I
want Biden in an office. Does he excite me?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
He is born grandpa, that is what he is. But
he's safer than crazy, old, fucked up grandpa.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
And people are saying like, you know, yes, no can
it's perfect, but you got to pick the one like
a bus route, pick the one that's going to get
you closest. So we need we should like to be
so Mama and Joe are going to get us closer.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
What it is, Kamala, then she should be the next president.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
She probably will because Joe I would vote.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
For her if she If she just comes through.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I haven't heard.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I don't want him to remember Dick Cheney did, but
I know, I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
She comes through. I think she's already.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
African American women have held this country up the Democratic
Party since the sixties. So I think that if you
look through the Democratic Party, some of some of the
top political people.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
In the history of politics have come out of you know,
Susan Rice, Oh, she was. I'm glad she's on the team.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean, now you know we have our national security
can get under control again.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You know, he can have I see a lot of
women on Biden's eye.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
What I'm excited to go now, I'm very.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
But we are such great leaders. I mean we are moms,
we are a bus as women, we we are.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
On this town.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Well we know we have our hands on the pulse
of so many different things, and so we make decisions
from that perspective, which is a large human are just
kind of like.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Everything about everything because we bring life into this world,
so we have to take care of that life. So
we worry not just for ourselves but for every single person.
And as men, no offense, because I love you, You're
so smart and everything. But I got to boys, you
are definitely simple creatures. You like you whatever. If it's right,
that's where you're going. If it's wrong, it's wrong. There's
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no I feel like sometimes men don't see the emotional
side of things. They see the logical side, whereas women
see everything.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I think that women.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Label everything they feel as emotional and we just you're
just you're going to label emotional. It's just a different
type of emotion. But both people are emotions.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, there's emotionless and emotional.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Okay, great, women see shakes a great.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
It's Women's Day.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
You're the one that just said African American women have
their finger on their pulse.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
They run. You just said it.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, I probably did say That's sounds like something I
would say, Brandy.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
You did just say it. Well, you're watching back from.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Beyonce last week to Kamala this week.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Oh, I mean, I'm excited. I swear to God, I'm
super excited about her.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And but can I just say this on social media,
when we see people negatively trolling, we have to if
we see our friends do in our family, anyone out
there who is negatively trolling and and just acting ugly,
let's call them out. Let's not let it be okay
to tear people down.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
But it's hard to get engaging.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Is that in the fight?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Does that give them the attention they want to keep
it going? I'm so torn on that with COVID how.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Much rent am I gonna leasen my head to these people?
I mean, I got so many things to matter about
their negativity. It's just something. If we don't give them
any rental space, then they go out of business.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
So we don't fight them. We pushed Kamala.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
We pushed positively, We pushed what we want people to see.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
We vote, and they just sit. They'll tell us every day.
Every day you troll on the TV. They're gonna give
us a million reasons to vote. Just vote, Just vote,
because they're trying to play games with the vote.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
And sign up for your mail in ballot. Even if
you're going to go vote, at least get your mail
in ballot. That way, you have it already if anything happens.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
How do you sign up for the mail in ballot online?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
You can sign up online.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I signed up. You can tweeting or something, because I
know people will get it from you.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Absolutely non they'll troll me. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Troll me all you want.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
We don't need guns, we need votes, and we're gonna
have to have a lot that way, you know, we
can change things, like if we flip the Senate, like
in Michigan and one of those kind of swing states where.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
They're really getting screwed down there. I mean, different things
happening all over the country. Yes, and the votes could
kill I mean because Hillary.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Clinton won about like three or four thousand votes.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
A popular vote. But if we showed up like we
did for Obama, right, not, Trump's not way to pull anything.
He's gonna be like, oh my god. You know, who
are these people?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I do feel like Trump is still doing ship be
like illegal ship back there pulling strings trying to I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Know what it is.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Don't the post office. In the post office, that's.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
A great part of the enemy.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean, because the enemy has to assume so much.
They have to assume the assumptions they make. They're assuming
that this demographic African American community is not going to vote.
They're not going to get up and vote. That was
a fluke.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
What happened with a mama was off the loot.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
No, I think that they're now after seeing the rallies
and all approaches, they're knowing they're going to vote. They're
now bounding together and we're going to do something.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Hillary was the best candidate to vote. But I'm into politics.
I do four hours of news to day. But your
average guy, they did not get up and go vote
for for Hillary. These dudes, we're going to roll a blunt,
get the mask and go down.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We're not scared. I mean a mask, get a mask.
We were going. I'm just telling you, November thirty is
going to be a party. We're on it.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean everybody's on it. We you know, these guys
we were trying to loot Beverly Hills. We're going to vote.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
The same people who loot it can now vote and
create ten times more damage. I'll let it go. Damn.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
They can not even damage. It's it's positivity. We're gonna
we're going to create change.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Oh yeah, I'm just trying to scare people. Great damage. Yeah,
and we're gonna go get in line and we're gonna vote.
That's what's gonna scare them. When they turned Fox turns
the news on, they see these people in lines around
these places, and we're not pissed. We know you run
a game. We know that you read a ballot boxes.
We know that no one's like, oh my god, we
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got to count the jellybeans.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm gonna ride mail though, Like I'm not going to
get in a line because of COVID.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
That's what scares me.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I hope everyone that is afraid to go out and
like congregate. I got your mailing balance.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
You go to the pool party.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
We can make it to the party. It's just us three.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
About in life. I saw there's a pool party in
Atlanta every weekend, and I'm like, if they can make
it to the pool party, they better make it. They
better make it to the ballet.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I mean you do you see the crowds of people everywhere?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Cool?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I thought you were talking about our party on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Geez, can I bring a day?
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
What woo?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
What that's called?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm trying to bring it into existence. I'm trying to Okay, Okay,
got it by asking for permission.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I get you that you're gonna meet someone fabulous and
within twenty four.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Hours that I can bring around Brandy.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, we love everyone.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We don't, we don't. We'll interview them. Get ready? Get ready?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
You sure you want to bring around me?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Oh? Highlights.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
We return, we'll be talking to Brandy from Kalamazoo, Michigan,
and she'll be sharing with us about her town that
is currently being poisoned. And underlying issue is systemic racism.
So we continue to have these black white conversations, and
we're incited to bring one of our people from our
communities into the conversation right after this.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Hi, my name is Brandy Crawford Johnson. I am married,
and I'm a mother, and I live in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
I am an environmental advocate and a homeowner. That is
continuously being poisoned by a paper mill, among other things,
in our neighborhood. And I am fighting for our rights
of our African American community as well as every resident
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that lives in Kalamazoo County that is breathing in does
poisonous air.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Well, first off, we read everything that you sent us,
and I think it's really fucked.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's just sad that this has been going on for
so long.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
To tell us a little bit in your words, I mean,
we've all read it, but really, what is your goal?
What is happening?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, in twenty eighteen, I.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Joined the City of Kalamazoo Environmental Concerns Committee because I
have asthma and I didn't have severe asthma before I
moved here, and it just kept getting worse and I
just thought that possibly our paper mill could be the cause.
So I gave the mayor and the members on the
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committee a copy of the American Lung Association State of
the Air Report saying that our city was greated f
for failing for air quality. And I also gave them
a toxic release inventory of Graphic Packaging International, which is
our paper mill, paper and Pole Mill, And to my surprise,
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they sent a cease into sist letter to the data
company for the American Lung Association and USA Today because
they did not want our air quality information and to
be released to the public because they were afraid that
it would ruin Kalamazoo's reputation. And it's all in writing
with the meeting minutes. So after that, I quit, and
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I spoke with a person with the Michigan Department of
Environmental Quality, which is now called EGL E.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Eagle, and.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
The woman that is in charge of our county told
me that they were that graphic packaging was using pollution
prevention and I had nothing that I needed to be
concerned about. And a couple of months ago, I started
getting my eyes started burning really really bad. And then
I was talking to a couple of my neighbors and
they're like, yeah, you know, I didn't have asthma before
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I moved here, and my eyes are burning bad, and
you know, then I started talking to more people and
they're saying, yeah, my dad died from asthma, my sister
died from asthma, my brother, and it's just like the
more people I talked to, the more people I.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Found or died from cancer and asthma. I'm like, what
is going on?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
So I just kept can you tell us at a
little bit about the makeup of your community and what
that looks like so we can get a real sense
of who the people are.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Okay, well, we're called the North Side of Kalamazoo, where
a neighborhood that's located downtown, which has always majoritly been
predominantly African American. And I found out that in nineteen
thirty seven, our neighborhood was actually located into an industrial
area because the government at the time thought that I'm
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quoting what they said. They quoted saying that Negroes were
bad for real estate, so they located us in an
industrial area.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
To kill you.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
I mean, that's what it sounds like, because they don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, they definitely don't like.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
They literally are that they've been killing people for years
and getting away with it, and now they're doing an
expansion to make it even worse. And I'm so shocked
that our county and city commissioners would even allow them
to expand instead of relocating them somewhere way out in
the country, somewhere away from people that are human being
living human beings.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
This almost sounds like an Aaron Brockovich kind of situation,
where like you're gonna have You're going to have to
be the one.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
I mean, somebody's got to carry that torch.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It's the red lining that that your local government at
the time created. It's just our federal government turned the
blonde ode to the fact that local governments is like
it was huge in Chicago. I mean they set the
pace for the rest of the country.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
What's the population where you're about.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Around six thousand in our neighborhood. But I don't believe
that our neighborhood is the only ones affected.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
By the population of Katamazoo Kalamazoos.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
Around seventy seven thousand. They're the seventh largest in city
in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
So out of that seventy seven thousand, how many people
work for that paper meal?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
Not a lie?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Actually, I think only like a couple hundred.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Even this expansion that they're doing six hundred million dollars expansion,
only fifty jobs are being brought.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So I don't think it's that many.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
And what's the income of the of your city? Like,
is it is it a high income area, is it
an affluent area?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Is it a low I would say.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
It's I would say it's middle class, but our neighborhood
is lower income.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
And I think that place because money always plays a part.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I mean, look your taxes, local taxes, you know, that's
what draws everything in your local government. I mean that's
where you're going to have to start with your with
your counselman in your district. Have you had a talk
with him yet? Well?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Yeah, I was on the Environmental Concerns committee with the
mayor and he was one of the people that sent
the ceasent of this letters taught. And I also sent
the city attorney a letter like a couple of weeks ago,
saying you need to you know not so let me get.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
To the part of the chemicals and everything.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
There's been this older that everybody's complained about for years,
that those paper mills on Minion, and I mean people
you have to literally turn off your air conditioning if
you're driving past it, roll your windows up.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And this is just people that don't live here. We
have to do it all the time. We have to
do it all the time.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And so.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I have been doing a lot of foy requests and
finally I had one of them answered and we found
out what we've been wondering for decades with this odor
is is H two US gas. It is a highly
toxic gas that causes practically all the diseases.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
That everyone's getting.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And so.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
I let the city attorney know I know what this
odor is, and I asked him and the commission I
talked to commissioners about this, and I've asked them to
set up public hearing notifying everyone with this odor is,
and ask them to get everyone air purifiers and vapor
mitigation systems because this is just one of many chemicals.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Is your mayor? Is your mayor on the ballot this fall?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, he just got elected. He was actually our vice
mayor and then he became our mayor.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So how about your district or your super your supervisor,
who's on the who's on the ballot right now?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That's who?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, it doesn't the city. The city and the county commissioners.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
They don't care because they actually voted for this, this
paper mill to expand on contaminated brown.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Fields, which is going to make the pollution ten times worse.
Like I said, I've talked to everybody locally. Nobody cares, Nobody.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Doesn't want to help. Nobody wants to help us. I've
notified everybody. I've literally had hundreds of emails and phone calls,
and no one cares.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You're just you're being ignored, right, You're like you're doing
all the work and it's all about the mighty dollar,
and they don't care about your community because it's a
low income community, and they don't think.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I think it's because we're African American. That's the main
thing that I think. But it's low income African American.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But I believe.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I mean, I just did a public health announcement that's
coming out locally finally today at three point thirty and
I and I had questions, and one of my questions
for our government was if we were redlined to be
located in nineteen thirty seven into an industrial area and
it is now twenty twenty and we are still having
to endure this poisoning that is going on.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Are you still racist?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And I know it's a very bold statement.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
To say, but that's what I want to know because
I can't understand why you would allow a company that's
been poisoning the African American population for decades to even
expand further.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, they'll argue that they're not racist.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
However, they're capitalists, and capitalists tend to overlook anny human
rights over the dollar.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I'm assuming that you know your.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Community doesn't hold buy enough paper to hold that company together.
They're producing that paper there in your community, but they're
selling it somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
So oh yeah, they're global, right, so they're graphic packaging.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Company you're in Michigan right now? Which is a U.
Mungus swing steak?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So I would suggest, I mean, I don't want to
try everything political, but it will take politics to change.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
What is your community? They vote Conservative Republican Michigan. It's
kind of hard to tell. So your community Democrat. So
your mayor's Democratic?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yes, I think?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So are you registered to vote? Are you registered to vote?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Some people say they're Democrat? Is the Republicans?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Some people are Republicans, say they're Democrat, Like, I don't
trust the Republicans or the Democrat.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Who's the governor and the governor?
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Because Donald Trump doesn't like her, your governor in Michigan?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Right?
Speaker 7 (25:43):
Oh? No, I notified her staff too, but I don't
know because she has so much going on as she
is going to be.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
This is the time you need to push it because
Biden and Bush, Biden and Kamal Harris, we've got to
win Michigan this year. So you could get this is
a great way to get some attention because your your
it sounds like your community is going to be his constituency.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
The people. We need for those people in your community
to come and vote. And I think you could leverage
your voting group.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I mean, you know, you start something, Hey, we're raising
we're getting people registered to vote. That would bring attention,
because Michigan is gonna get attention. You could next thing,
you know, you could have them there.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
But she's one person that's she's done everything that she
can do. She's like she's like the little guy fighting
for everyone. No one's listening. And I think that that's
why we need to have this conversation. We need to
get this conversation going and out there because people are
dying from this poison in the air and it's not
it's getting worse.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Not I mean red.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Want and I could and definitely this is a political
issue as why I agree with you, But I believe
that a lot of politicians make false promises and once
they can come in office they start, are doing favors
that they would normally do before they became elected, or
you know, getting involved in these little good old boy
networks where you know what, everyone's paying each other off
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to keep their mouth shut or not do certain things.
So I really have not decided who I'm voting for
yet because I don't believe that that many politicians are
really concerned about you know, our health as much as
they should, as well as our environment. I mean the
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environmental poisoning Agency, I mean the Environmental Protection Agency. Their
laws have been scaled back because of Donald Trump, but
I'm hoping that we will have better regulations going forward.
But like I said, we need people that actually care
and that actually are humane, because I've seen more racist
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and inhumane and talk to more racist and inhumane people
than I have ever talked to when I'm forty one
years old, and I I am so appalled by the
lack of just I'm just just the lack of anybody
even caring at all. Like it's just like we need
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to hold our government accountable, our city account of sitting
down to city and county commissioners and our mayors should
be held accountable for allowing us to continue. They should
be held accountable for looking the other way, for even
when they're told what is going on and at and
we're asking for help and not doing anything to help
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us like we should.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
They shouldn't even be both. They shouldn't even be sitting
in the positions.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Oh good.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm sure like this paper mill is probably donating to
all of their campaigns and has them in their pocket
just because they are so rich.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
And that's what I thought. And I had my son
who's fifteen, and he's very into politics as well, but
he looked up to see who donates to whose campaign
because I was curious about that as well. And I
found out that Graphic Packaging donates to Fred Upton, who
is a Republican represented for Michigan. But I did not
see that they've had donated to anyone else but him.
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But he's actually going up for election.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Too, so they're saying that he probably won't get elected again.
So so I'm not sure that would be a good
thing for us.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I have a few recommendations, a few questions actually, so
class action settlement. Also, have you looked into public health advocates,
public health advocates or legal aid lawyers who will take
your case pro bono because of the impact that it's
happening in your community, because there are right now you
are fighting it alone, but there are people and resources
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designed to help communities, just like just like we have a.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Lawyer already and to hear legal work before this. That's
really like, I'm passionate about our health environment, but I'm
also very verse in law, and I hired attorney like
literally immediately when I found out what's going on. So
we do have a class action that is developing at
the moment, but it is towards the odor right now,
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because we were just that was before we found out
what the odor was. Because the older has been you know,
ruining the joy maver or lives. I mean, I have
people crying to me that they can't have barbecues because
no their family want to come over because it smells
so bad. I mean, that's just one example of just
you can't even go outside and enjoy your yard because
of the gas that's coming from this plan.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And it's just unacceptable.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Like there's just so many levels to this, and you know,
like I said, I'm not going to quit, and I
know people do call it. When you said Anne Brockwitch.
People call me that around. They had a lead poising
issue with the city of kalma Zoo. A few years ago.
I bought a house from the city of Kalamazoo and
they were selling other houses pretty cheap, their houses that
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they ran out of funds to redevelop And about six
months after I bought the house, the city of Kalamazoo.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Sent me a letter saying, hey, can you sign this
piece of.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Paper releasing us from liability, saying that we told you
that the house was full of lead pain. I said
absolutely non, I called my lawyer. So they everyone made
a big deal about it, and it was in all
these publications like Jet magazine and New York Times about
I bought the house for thirty two hundred and got
one hundred and fifteen thousand, but I used all the
money to take the lead out of the house, like
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out of the windows, the doors, everything. And then the
company that worked for the state lead poisoning Prevention program
used unsafe work practices, making my home twelve times more poisonous.
This was in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen. And then
the manager of the program, he took the supervisors, he
revoked the supervisor's license, but he let his son's company
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continue working on lead poison children's homes, which are mostly
in African American neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And I literally fought tooth and nail on that as well.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
So it's constantly, the constantly things that I'm constantly trying
to fight for to protect the health of Michigan residents,
the age andcies that are actually there and being paid
to protect us or not doing their job.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Well, a lot of people right now, but this particular
administration they don't believe in the science.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
So that's that. I mean, your fighter is I mean,
no fight is dead. But this is a great time
for you to be organized, and you're going to need
Once we get.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
People who believe in science at the top, then it's
going to should make your job a lot easier. And
I just want to reiterate that in order for people
to get their job at the top, they need you.
I mean they I mean we're in California. It's going
to go a certain way, but where you are right now,
you can get you can leverage where you I mean Michigan. Hey,
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mister Biden, you know you need to come down here
and talk to us we're the we're literally dying. We've
been suffering from all the elements and systemic racism through redlining.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You're perfect, don't.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
If I was a campaign manager, I would fly down
there right now, get you on camera.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Is that the rest of Michigan know, Hey, we're tired
of the nonscience.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I think that's what she's trying to do, all right,
because it's it's hard for one person.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
And then I know all about this science because I've
talked to like tons of toxicologists doctors at the University
of Michigan. Stanford, I mean, Stanford came out with a
study saying that the severe COVID cases, which are definitely
hitting a African American community is harder.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Are linked to pollution. So that is why I feel
like it's not just Michigan.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
But when you know, when you when when we found
out that COVID was existing here and we had a pandemic,
I can't understand why the president was not mailing everybody's
sanitizer and and and you know, chlorox wipes and all that,
like they used to do government cheese, Like this is
common sense stuff, you know what I'm saying, Like you
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should And then you have, you have scientists and doctors
telling you that the that the severe cases of COVID
are linked to pollution, then you should be going to
all the major polluters which are on a list with
the EPA, and making sure they have carbon capsure capturing
all this pollution.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
This is not rocket science.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
This is These corporations are billion dollar corporations. They can
afford to put carbon caps or on their smokestacks.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's really not difficult.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
I mean, Mayor wanted dispensaries put carbon capsure on the
dispensary so the weed smell doesn't get out.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Why can't you do it so the poison doesn't get out?
It's really not rocket science.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Wow, I mean you have set Like what you're saying
really resonates with me, and I feel like you're doing
the right thing by trying to get it out there.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I wish you know.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
We're gonna definitely talk about it more and we'll help
try to help you as much as we can. I
like you're like a little man fighting the fight, and
I applaud you and I think that you're awesome and
you're so well spoken, and I hope that just getting
this out there, getting making the conversation happen, can help
your neighborhood and help everyone. I mean, because you're right,
if if marijuana dissenters could do it, like why should
(35:05):
not everyone else do it?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Like it's if it's that simple, just do.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
It, right.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I don't understand.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
But like I said, Trump put these little EPA regulations
and cut them back and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
But I can't even say it's just him.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
Because like when I look at the inspection reports of
these toxic ration concers, the EPA doesn't even inspect them
for years, even before President Trump became president.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
They weren't inspecting these facilities like their that's what their
job is, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
So we need to put them on blasts.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We have to, I mean we have They're not going
to do anything unless we dare not to just the
key dare not to say we're going to dare you,
mister mayor not.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
To an EPA official that actually he was making excuses.
He was like, didn't you know pollution prevention is and expensive,
you know thing to do, And I said, yeah, maybe
for some companies, but not a billion dollar corporation that's
using six hundred million to expand on contaminated land.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He can afford the pollution prevention, so miss me with
that one, because I'm not buying it.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
But you shouldn't be making an excuse as you say, yes, ma'am,
I'll be right out there to do that inspection to
protect your health, because that's what the EPA does.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
We're here to protect the health and environment at all costs.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
No, you're sitting here telling me to go to the
CEO because he's going to be afraid of personal injury lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
You're an EPA official. You shouldn't be saying that stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
To me, right.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Oh gosh, Well, Brandy, thank you so much for calling in,
and we will definitely keep this conversation going.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
We'll be praying for you.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I will be tweeting about it a lot today because
I'm annoyed and I feel you have a fifteen year old.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I have teenagers.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
They shouldn't be growing up, know, like getting asthma and
dying before that. They should You were saying, it's just
it's not fair for anyone, but imagine the children growing up.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
So as a team moms, I could afford air purifiers
and taking pollution prevention of vitamins, but a lot of
people they can't, so they have to be able to,
you know, help help everyone here.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Don't write a letter to like there's several senators. Have
you heard of the Green New Deal? There are a
lot of these. Look a look at the people who
wrote that. I know AOC, and you start writing to them,
and you should start to date because they'll be the
ones who will bring attention to like, you know, higher
level people say hey, it's Michigan.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Just trust me, you're in Michigan. It's so big.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
I haven't read AOC. But like I said, I've contacted
everyone that's.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
But she cares.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Help everything I can reach out to to to President
elect Biden.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
But you know, I'm not. I'm not expecting help just
because they seem like they're so focused on the election
issues that they're they've already been focused on.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
But like I said, I will.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
I'm trying to come public with this because I haven't
gotten help at the state, city and county level here.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So hopefully if other people are concerned that, even people
that don't live here, then maybe that will get them
to say, Okay, maybe we should do something.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
I want to tweet about it today. So we got you,
cover girl, We got you covered. Thank you so much,
and I thank Dolling.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
You should run for office.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
You should run. Absolutely, you will tell.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Me that too, But I couldn't work with these assholes.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Good luck out there. Thank you, Brandy, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Lastly, we cannot leave this out, Lucas Brandy. I mean,
I think we should all tell them. But Brianna's killers
still have still not arrested. They're just chilling.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
We're chilling.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, Anna Taylor's killers are not nothing's been done, not
one thing.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
How long has she been buried?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I mean, oh my god, it's about the same time
as George Floyd.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Correct a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
This is insane, just because we have we have George
Floyd's killers, and it's we're not just doing it one
time to say, oh, we did it. We need to
do this across the board. We need to get Browna
Taylor's murderers behind bars.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Let's vote, Plea's vote,
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