July 3, 2023 • 42 mins
Join us this week as we delve into Armageddon's! We go through a few Armageddon like The Jupiter Effect, Nibiru Cataclysm, and The First UFO Doomsday Cult called The Seekers! We'll navigate through these fiery and deathly waters and hopefully come out on the otherside! Join in!
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It's hard to find a culture religion Society, or time in
history, when humans haven't held the fear of total
Extinction. In their hands defined events.
As signs of prophecies and try to predict the inevitable path.
Fate would walk before. Finally, their faith would turn
into the truth of fire and bringthe world to its knees.
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Some call it doomsday The Apocalypse Armageddon, the
second coming, the Rapture, the end of days, the last Toyota
Thon, While others, see the fourhorsemen approaching.
As they doom scroll, social media catching highlights of
their fears in the headlines of clickbait hashtags, tweet the
trending sounds of seven trumpets as the faithful watch.
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The Tick-Tock of the Doomsday Clock approach.
The dawn of 10,000 Suns, flashing at midnight before the
long nuclear. Enter.
But now as it has always been influencers, preach their
sermons and pass the collection plate through promo codes Refuge
from the coming nightmare. I was on sale between Instagram
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reels tactical flashlights tactical strollers tactical gold
bars vouched for by the enlightened community of your
Facebook congregation. This week, we're covering a
combination of catastrophes somebased in science, others Faith,
but all they're born from the truth of a fear.
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That's always been wrong. Join us as we laugh at the end
of history and kick off season 2of The Black Cat Report with the
apocalypse. Cults, catastrophes and con
artists, I didn't see you there.Something big is going on here
from hunting, goes to Bigfoot hair, normal UFOs, True Crime
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and more. We won't just be spouting
articles. I was researching For Your
Entertainment, beginning of a new world, the best Bok Gil.
Ever fucking a true story. It's basically like one day you
walk outside. And you see that the answer
playing with matches this about see you on the other side before
we get into it. I'm going to give you the secret
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recipe behind baking up a good apocalypse.
You see, when you start looking into the display case at the
Armageddon ice cream shop, you'll find there's really only
three main flavors, vanilla strawberry and chocolate.
And every, every Prophet or prophecy pretty much uses these
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to match to people's tastes. Their tastes and fear.
It is a Neapolitan of Doom. Wow, trust me this metaphor does
go somewhere but there's a purpose.
All right. So so what are they and why?
So first we have natural Extinction with examples like
super volcanoes floods, asteroids, shifts in the earth's
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polarity and plagues their Cyril, events and processes that
were the victims of but would still happen without anyone
around. It's the vanilla of Doom and
just like vanilla nature, is almost always used as the base
to make the other more exciting flavors of end times possible
next to that would be strawberryanthropogenic risks, right?
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So these are human caused conclusions to human history,
but you still use vanilla nature.
As the kill shot on. And the strawberry flavoring is
made up of our Bloodshed and ignorance things like nuclear
war, artificial intelligence, taking over climate change,
biological weapons, Etc. All of require human
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manipulation to build bomb, or Biff the natural world.
And finally, we have chocolate, human faith and belief are
prophecies and predictions. This tastes like the Antichrist,
the Ascension, the second comingof a messiah final.
Battle God's will over decisionsand fate.
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Well, there's still a lot of nature wrapped up in these
cataclysms. They wouldn't happen or exist.
If basically Some Humans weren'thuman being better than others,
or if we weren't the prize trophy of a WWF spiritual
Smackdown between the forces of good and evil, brother, now you
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a brother. So, so yeah, with with that kind
of Loose metaphor there. Well for one thing, the chicken
call it. One of our listeners started
with the kids he's leading at summer, camp needs to have more
than an idle and needs a philosophy of impending doom to
really keep them in line and committed and ice cream flavor.
Metaphors are just a way better option than trying to go through
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a bunch of really boring textbook, definitions of
Extinction scenario categories. Trust me, I read way the hell
too many pages to bring you thatNeapolitan.
So I hope you enjoy for our first apocalypse.
We will Be highlighting a little-known but sticky.
Miscalculation that still gets used as a scientific argument.
YouTube videos to this day, literally found videos
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referencing this from today and that is the Jupiter effect.
A book published in 1972 and written by John Gibbon and
Stephen. I think it's literally
pronounced plague man. Both Cambridge both Cambridge
educated astrophysicist with Apple degrees in astronomy and
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way too long of a list of credentials to highlight.
But basically these two men wereat the top of their fields in
science and so after spending years, charting and mapping the
Angles and timing of planetary orbits around our solar system,
they eventually arrived on a single date in a very
terrifying, conclusion. March 10th 1982 Earth would be
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positioned on the opposite side of every other planet.
When they aligned perfectly behind the Sun, why is that bad?
Well, the effects of this alignment but in a sense, create
a concentrated gravitational, death ray pointed straight at
Earth, all right? The the is nuts, right?
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So the overwhelming pole of the Align Pleasant planets, gravity
would basically warp the oceans of flames on the sun.
Kind of, like the moon moves, the tides on Earth, This and
would basically then lead to a push and pull that would trigger
massive sunspots, which would cause high-speed particles to be
picked up by intense and agitated solar winds and be
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blasted straight towards Earth. Ultimately speeding up the
Earth's rotation. We actually read a book about
that. Dude what was the name of the
book? Joy age of Miracles.
A choke Miracle. It was slowing down, recommend
that book. I was slowing down but highly
recommend the book age of Miracles, for its great faster,
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all just going to fly off. That might be one of the books
that was influenced by this Theory.
I was just going to say we're all going to fly off the face of
the Earth. If it I'm okay with that.
It's just fly off. I'm ready.
I'm ready for the apocalypse. Bring it on.
Why would imagine if the Earth'srotation sped up?
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Gravity would also get heavier so you would start feeling a lot
more gravity pancakes. So you'd get heavier as would
crush. Anyone have fast again.
Our leg bones would come throughour shoulders.
Yeah, so all this comes down to our planet would basically get
sucker-punched and there. Was nothing we could do to stop
it to make the coming catastrophe, worse, the
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combination and timing of the initial impact, would focus
directly on the San Andreas fault, line and trigger an
overwhelming earthquake, that would completely level Los
Angeles basis Christ. This is like some heavy shit for
some of the world's, like foremost super scientist, people
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that do their job to like be like, hey guys, kind of found
something over here and like, That you know.
Yeah and then it turned to April2nd and they're like God just
kidding. Hey bro, you are like it's an
earth rotation joke. You wouldn't get it.
Yeah, there was you'll get it. You'll get it sooner just next
year. Ha ha ha.
(08:32):
The earthquake that happened in Northridge in 1994, it was like
almost like a seven Like a whatever number 7 on the scale.
And like, yeah, and you're like,destroyed a ton of stuff but
like, that's, that's not even like to the extent that they're
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saying there's like, Earthquake is going to be that's going to
end the Earth and that was like a devastating thing that people
still talk about today. So I was just like, for
comparison. Yeah.
Well it's the date grew closer more and more people around La
began hearing about the Jupiter effect.
And while some dismissed it others couldn't help but feel a
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subtle the growing anxiety building with each passing day
for long. The Believers began reaching the
breaking point eventually leading to large numbers of Of
people choosing to sell their homes, quit their jobs and move
out of the city, thanks. They basically trusted their
fears with the academic credentials of these prophets
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and we're trying their best to get as far away as they could
from ground zero, this cut because like this is like a
10-year like heads up on shit and this book became a
best-seller. So like a course it already
became a bestsellers copies everywhere and then like the
date starts getting closer. So like it becomes more
relevant. Like I remember my parents
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talking to me when I was like I remember how young about, like,
you know, December 21st, like 2000 or like 2012, like the
Mayan calendar, just like five, six, seven years before, that
shit started popping up on TV. And I was just like, I'm done
with that doomsday. Yeah.
Oh my God. Would you be crazy and just get
over it? Yeah.
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Yeah. Would be really crazy is, if
that it was a plan by people by like real estate developers and
home flippers that got those guys, or they bought the houses
themselves and then resold them became millionaires.
They already do that. So yes.
Wait, who's that? Who's the public remaster?
Remax published every Max publishing.
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But then something strange happened, right?
Not in the history of profits. But in this timeline, in July of
1981, of the authors of the book, John Gibbons suddenly
began to distance himself from his frightened readers, okay,
there's two years before shit supposed to go down, he began
downplaying the books, predictions his research, the
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effects of the alignment, all ofthat.
Starting to get a little nervous, a little squirrely,
right? Like I mean, then again, he is,
you know, an astronomer he's used to just being in the dark.
Nobody actually seeing him. Now, all these people like, what
do you thinks gonna happen tomorrow you need.
She's like what the fuck do you get away from me?
You know, you got a mess like I live in New England.
I'm not scared. Dumbass get oh we got a message.
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From his friends saying pie is actually three point.
One four not three point ones one and he's like, oh I thought
it was 3140 how the how the fuckdid I graduate?
Well yeah so start down playing start being like maybe it's not
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that bad this and that and the other and in February 1982 just
one month before the predicted, doomsday John Gibbon and Steven
plague Man, released a new book,The Jupiter effect reconsidered,
In it, they confident that confidently declared not to
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worry about March 10th 1982 because the Jupiter affected
already happened in 1980. When Mount st.
Helens blew up. Oh, I love the retcon, I love
that. They retconned themselves.
You know what's that? They just went back and we're
(12:32):
like, oh no, it already happens,right Connie.
Like a tree rewriting. Yeah.
After it happened. They're like oh yeah.
See I told you that for his I told you it happens.
Yeah it already happens. They just like gas-lit their
followers which I think honestlymight be the most humane way to
like break apart a cult that's just like it's gas.
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Like them like hey everybody guess what?
We don't have to kill each other.
Kill ourselves, they're saved and again, Like three weeks ago,
they just wanted to see if we would go to do it.
Now that we were almost gonna doit, we're all free.
Yeah, like in the Bible when Godsaid to kill the guy son and
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then he was gonna do anything. I was like sweat.
See was just like, wow, you wereactually gonna do it.
He's like dude I'm just doing what you did to your son.
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Oh shit. Too soon.
Took it too soon? Jesus Christ.
Well I think the important thingto keep an eye, I know somebody
fucking cheese in Christ, Jesus Christ.
Um, but uh anyways, yeah, but with all that in mind, it's
important to keep in mind that just because your doomsday is
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based in science, doesn't mean the calculations are Attic.
What science is always right, though, it was a scientist, not
if the calculations are wrong and never lies.
Yeah, and that's that's kind of the point of why I wanted to
share that little little Snippets and the craziest
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longest story in the world but like it does point out something
that's entirely science-driven right and it's entirely like
natural to Scientific. Observation were like a
scientist who probably had no idea that they were going to
like become some S in the world and like popular from this book,
like who the fuck reads these little books, you know, then it
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becomes a giant best-seller and all of a sudden like everybody's
talking about doomsday and they're like, asking advice and
he's just like, oh, shit, shit. You're not a calculator.
I don't know what to do. I wonder I wonder if there was
other books written or other research papers written against
that with different math there were.
So just just, I mean, yeah, thisheading in there like people
obviously a lot of people read the first story, but never, Read
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the retconning of it or, or readthem actually talking about
like, other people going back towards it and being like, hey,
this is actually not true. Look at the map, it's incorrect.
I redid it, instead of that guy being, you know, he's the only
story like, people don't really go back and read retractions and
papers when they make mistakes and the Nibiru cataclysm was
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something that started up way, way, way back in the 90s, nobody
remembers that nobody's old enough here to remember that.
And it was formed or it was Proposed by this lady.
From Wisconsin. Nancy leader right.
She did it on a website called. Where is it Zeta?
Talk. Okay, she's convinced that she
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receives an as conversations with the zeta-reticulans.
Oh my God. This is, I don't know.
I don't have anything written upfor this section.
I'm just going to be honest here.
This Nibiru is basically like, how do I put this?
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It's just the herpes of Apocalypse stories.
Okay? Like basically it'll follow you
to the end of the days and at least 67% of every doomsday.
Prediction has it somewhere in it.
Like it's just constantly popping up everywhere.
There's podcasts that are just dedicated to the bureau, right?
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And I think that they're able tomake multiple Seasons because
they're literally just been making shit up about it for so
fucking long at one point I literally saw.
So this is a, this is basically a giant ass Planet that's
supposed to be just kind of likeit's a little bit out of our way
so we can't see it at any point in time.
But then a lot of the followers constantly, Feel and try to take
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a video of basically the Sun in the sky behind some clouds and
say that's not the Sun that mustbe the Peru.
And I'm going to tell you. After we all watch a video on
the link will be in the show notes.
I highly encourage you to go watch it, but trust me, the
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audio was good. Enough.
I felt comfortable, just playingit on here.
I'll tell you the stats on that.Yo after just two weeks and I
think the number of people that comment like and keep up with
this shit. Might scare you more than the
absurdity of. There's a giant planet like
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trying to play peek-a-boo with us.
Okay. Oh, yeah.
And the one of the main fears other than maybe it's a
Celestial hidden Celestial body From Another Dimension or it's a
planet, the size of Earth that'sgoing to head.
Into Earth and crash, and obviously destroy us.
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Or it's a spaceship or it's run by the government, which is why
they deny it. Like it literally just keeps
going and you can go back. Go, go.
Look up Nibiru sighting, right? Just go to YouTube.
Look that up and just start scrolling of like the new Bureau
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impact, and it's like 2011, and it's like any week now, it's
like 2008. A week now, like 20 23, June any
week now, and it's like, let's go there, and it's different
people posting this right now. That's like, how is this
happening? So, yeah, well, for next one.
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And I really, really, really tryto avoid the the, you know, the
milk toast, the boilerplate, the, the average, doomsday, and
Apocalypse in areas that we all know, right?
So the second coming of Christ and like that, Birth of the
Antichrist and all that shit. Like that really tried to avoid
that. We all know we all love them.
All right? We've all seen the movies.
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But I came across one case that does point to the second coming.
That was just too good, not to include and I really hope that
you enjoy it as much as I do. this is the case of the Doomsday
profit, kind of Mary Bateman Mary Bateman had an interesting
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and somewhat problematic life, but doesn't growing up in
England. In the late 1700s, we're going
to skip ahead a little bit because there's a lot of boring
time period there and get to thepart where she's about 21 years
old. And she's living in Leeds
England, where amongst other things she was working hard to
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develop a solid reputation as a fortune teller and a wise woman.
Unfortunately, the constables inthe area, didn't much care for
her kind, no matter what she did, she just kept getting
hassled by the police for the smallest, little thing by 21
years old. She was living in Leeds.
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England were amongst other things.
She was working hard to develop a solid reputation as a fortune
teller and a whines woman, but unfortunately, the constables
didn't much care for her kind and no matter what she did.
She just kept getting Hassled bythe police for the littlest
things Petty crimes and infractions, like burglary.
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Robberies, multiple failed and successful, prison escapes and
bribery. Her minor faults aside Mary was
an incredibly active and dedicated member of the leads
community. At one point.
After a massive fire had affected, many of the local
residents. She personally went out going
door-to-door begging anyone and everyone she could to to offer
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up donations to bring in donations, to help those who had
just lost everything. And, in short time, she had
amassed a large amount of money,food and supplies.
As for the people affected, by this terrible fire.
Oh, look at that. Sadly, she must have used the
same Shipping Company. The US did back in 2010.
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When Haiti was rocked by a terrible earthquake in somehow
billions of dollars went missingvery good.
I'm skipping ahead. She was the GoFundMe.
Yeah, so fast. Forwarding now to 1806.
So around 1806. Bateman joined the followers of
the Prophet. S a Kitchen profit, Joanna,
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South cotton and soon, after a, miracle took place one day,
Bateman's hen laid, an egg. And this egg happen to have a
very important message on it. Christ is coming.
Hey finally, I'm ready. I'm ready for Jesus now over and
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over again reliably. This hen Would lay an egg that
literally said on it Christ is coming, it kept going and it
went on for for just so long that eventually she started
charging people one penny to letthem in so that they could watch
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this hen lay an egg. I clear Christ is coming on it
but then just like the rest of her life.
Sadly, one day the sun was taken.
And it just suddenly stopped laying any more prophecies.
Some say because it was the henslost connection to Mary who had
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a connection to Christ. Others say, it was discovered
later that Mary had been writingChrist is coming on eggs, and
then physically putting them back in the prophetic hand.
Sadly, we may never know the truth.
Well, that keeps a mysterious, it's true, it's true.
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But luckily Mary was able to bounce back, she was able to
stay strong after the loss of profit hen and within months was
employed by a couple William andwe're Becker William and
karaoke. Yeah.
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You see Rebecca was having chestpains and Mary was the only one
skilled enough to know what was causing them a curse and for the
next two years, Mary worked tirelessly to save Rebecca by
selling the couple charms and cures and regularly feeding them
both poison pudding that the police eventually found and
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matched in her apartment when they rated it after Rebecca died
OSH. It is one of the greatest
prophets of all time. She only had that brief moment
but I just I just I just love that story.
I mean yeah, it's pretty funny because the husband didn't die
because he actually didn't like the pudding so he stopped eating
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it after awhile. So like it had to be some kind
of like lead that slowly killed them or some Mercury or
something like that. That wasn't going to kill you
right away. Just like yeah slowly killed.
You could because yeah What it is appears and leaves, and
that's it. Did they know that mercury was
poisonous at that time period though?
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Because I feel like half the shit that they were eating and
using was killing them but they didn't know it.
You know what I'm saying? Like yeah.
What's funny is that are a new? What's funny?
Is that Mary was actually in a prophetic apocalyptic cult as
she was trying to give her own profit thing.
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So Joanna, South Scott was originally a hearing voices.
That predicted future events saying that the crop failures
and famines of like 1799 and 800would come and she published her
own books and had like over a hundred thousand people that
follow her. And in 1813, she said that she
would she would give birth to the second coming of Christ.
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The second Messiah and it would signal the last days of Earth.
But she was 64 years old, and she was a virgin nurse people
think we'll see. That's you.
She said she was a virgin, but she also died because if she's
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in Tulum, that makes sense. Everyone in Tulum thinks they're
gonna give birth didn't Jesus. That makes sense.
I don't know why but it makes asmuch sense as Jesus.
All right, our next one is a wild one, although UFOs and
non-human. Entities are more commonly
accepted as a possible reality nowadays.
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This was not quite the case whenthis doomsday cult first formed
in 1953 known as the first-ever UFO.
Cult, this hive mind was formed when a University of Michigan.
Professor named Charles Lockheedmet a woman named Dorothy Martin
now Dorothy's, father had recently passed and she had been
making attempts to contact him. She soon claims she had made
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contact with something else. She had made a telepathic
connection with extraterrestrialbeings.
She called the Guardians. She had a few friends that would
gather at her house to listen tothese otherworldly messages.
This is what got Lockheed intrigued.
He introduced her to his small non-denominational church, which
already had a bias towards the Paranormal and spirituality they
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called themselves. The Seekers See the first-ever
UFO cult? What do you guys think about
that? I think it's great and I
thought, wow, it's pretty awesome.
I mean, I seen 50 there is less than 10 years after Roswell and
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Trinity, they're just like, hey,we should get married.
We ready to go. All right, so Dorothy quickly
became a figurehead and relate her messages to the group.
The Guardians had warned her that the apocalypse was coming
on. December 21st?
1954. There would be terrible for
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Solstice. There would be terrible
earthquakes and floods that would destroy the Earth.
But boy, did they have luck on their side because of the beings
connection with Dorothy? The Guardians would be coming to
pick them up on a UFO to save them from the impending
destruction of the planet. Whoo, dodged a bullet here.
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So nice. Fuck.
Yeah. To prepare for this.
Some people did go to such extremes as to quit their jobs.
They took it very seriously. Oh my God, yes.
Yeah. The hell people are dropping out
of, like, School, the quitting their jobs, fucking like all
sorts of shit. Well, the hilarious thing was
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that the day came and went beingconfronted by the perception of
reality not coinciding, with theevents of that day, some left,
but most stayed. You see it wasn't that they were
wrong. Per se, the end of days was
actually going to be on December24th.
What about that? Doesn't make sense for God.
Their calendar, their calendars,a few days like behind like that
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at all. So like they said, 20, but I
didn't change for the time zonesand I did she does that all the
time. That's a normal thing, you know
what I'm saying? Like, we all do it doodles It
just sticks of it. All right.
Do you Dooms Day? December 24th.
The Seekers were so sure that this was going to happen that
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they invited the entire town to come and be saved by the aliens.
Dorothy. Got a message that they were to
wait outside and sing Christmas carols until their ride showed
up. So, this group surrounded by
townsfolk, just watching began to nervously.
Sing. And like there are photos of
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them going up to it. There was like, 200 people that
showed up for this like they were surrounded by a mob of
folks, this is like small group of like UFO cult this and just
like, really really nervously frantically.
Carolyn pay-per-view King singing Christmas carols in a
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circle. Surrounded by hundreds of people
waiting for a UFO. All right.
I'd say this is right, yeah, I agree.
There is nothing to do that. Okay yeah that shows you how
much there is to do in the midwest.
There's literally nothing to do they're like, hey well these
doomsday for cure putting on a show Yeah, talk to one of them
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earlier motherfuckers. Think that's the Sun?
Hmm. Once again the world did not end
and their Uber never showed. I wish I could say this was the
end of this cult. But while most said actually
fuck this and left the few who stayed, again being confronted
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by their reality not matching, the reality of the world could
not accept, they were wrong. Instead she easy discomfort of
their beliefs being incongruent to reality, the new message was
that they had actually saved theplanet somehow.
We did it. We did it.
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Wait wait wait. The planet was ha.
Yeah, yeah the flood the the fluids in the earth.
Wait. Oh, so they were going to get
pulled up to save them from thisplanets destruction.
Yes. But somehow, their caroling
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stopped, whatever force was going to flood and break apart
the. But I think like, wasn't it.
Did you, did you get into that? Wasn't their belief that like
the entirety of the continent ofthe United States?
Would like collapse into the ocean and like basically form a
new ocean or something, it was gonna get real wild.
That's what I'm trying to say. They were saying they were going
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to be like, cataclysmic, earthquakes and floods.
You see The Seekers had managed to get infiltrated by an
undercover psychologist. Leon festinger made his way into
the group as a new member little.
Did they know he was actually studying them?
I kind of imagine it as like, him standing in the corner.
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Scripts huddle together around Dorothy and they're like, yeah,
tell us more. And she's like, okay yeah.
So anyway, the These were like and then she looks over and
she's like, who's that? And they're like, oh that's
that's just head, and he's just like, peeking out kind of lamp.
Stenographer. Hmm.
Yeah, he's got the lampshade on his head as I don't mind me.
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I'm just here to. Sorry, be picked up by the UFO.
My other one. My foil one is on the way right
now, so I had to use a borrower,you know?
But uh but yeah, all right, whenhe caught wind, that this group
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of people believed that the world would be ending and that
they would be taken away in a UFO.
He knew he had to be there to document and study their
behavior. When the prediction and belief
did not come true. The study of this doomsday cult
was the birth of one of festinger's.
Most famous theories the theory of cognitive dissonance.
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This is literally the cognitive dissonance when that entire
theory was built was on the first UFO cult.
All right. So what is cognitive?
Dissonance cognitive, dissonanceis the uneasiness that you feel
when you have conflicting beliefs.
An example would be lets say if UFO cult believed the end of the
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world was coming on to 20, December 21st or something and
then had to believe the reality that the world didn't end when
they saw. All that.
Nothing happened. So much discomfort came from
that they had invested so much into this belief system that
they changed the date of the literal end of the world to
alleviate that discomfort. This is cognitive dissonance
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even though they were so so wrong, A cult was responsible
for inspiring one of the most interesting and widely used
psychological theories today. Wild well.
If you love that. Then you're probably going to
hate this. This is one of my favorite
things that I've come across in.So fucking long, and it's very
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straightforward, but you could just go on and on and date for
days and days and days. And, and really get into the
philosophy and the beliefs that develop here.
So, here's the thing, like when we speak of apocalypse and times
Doomsday's, Etc, it's easy to fall into the imagery of
complete and total worldwide destruction, right?
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That's generally what we think of, when we think of a doomsday
or an apocalypse, but one group,one group started praying to
stop all that. They're my new favorite Church.
This group took, how do you say a little bit of a different
approach to forming religion. Instead of trying to use science
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to prove religion, they decided to build their religion around
science and they did this with one simple goal in mind to save
nature. And so what's their conclusion
kill yourself? Eat your friends and save the
planet. They are the Church of
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euthanasia. And it's not in that order
either. It's not a network, kind of name
is no, you can't kill yourself, then eat other people.
Well, these are these are options.
Okay? General good lines.
Yes, this is. What is this is why you need to
go to church. Yes, and they and they have a
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new onset of values spiced with all.
Sorts of self-loathing religiousphilosophy that I can only
describe as basically elevator music for extinction.
Founded in Boston in 1992. The Church of euthanasia or Co e
practice a modern-day anti-nato list philosophy, which basically
means they are super super against having kids, but it
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doesn't just stop with childbirth.
It Formed, he say it there set of practices around four main
pillars and they added in these little asterisks additions to
them. So number one, suicide optional.
But encouraged number to abortion, may be required to
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avoid procreation. Number three, cannibalism
mandatory. If you insist on eating flesh,
but only if one is already dead and number for sodomy, any
sexual act not intended for procreation That their main goal
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behind this, right? So, they were inspired by the
Dada is to like art and culturalmovement from back in the day,
which is all based around. Just complete and utter like the
the chaos of absurdity and orderto encourage folks to basically
change their ways and change their actions.
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And so just being so out like that and saying, things like
that. Hey, I think they actually do
practice. Not having kids, but be there
trying to point out that like, humans are destroying the
fucking planet and frankly we should all fucking die.
Like that is they are straight. Yep.
They are the only church and they advertise at that wants all
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of their members to kill themself, not a cult, not a, not
a group activity, but like, if they're comfortable with it,
it's fucking off yourself, like All right, all right.
I just I don't know. There's something about that as
a that as an apocalypse are likean Armageddon that's just like
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so fucking fascinating to me, right?
So it's not an in-your-face and it's not like you know fire and
brimstone and UFOs with fire andbrimstone.
It's not like that. It's just literally like being
like a Jehovah's Witness and like going door to door and be
like, hey you thought about? I don't know.
Suicide or eating your friend who's already dead?
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Dead or are you my psychiatrist?It out of here.
You never to come back here, butthey are there to play out their
beliefs to the actual end. It would mean that there would
be one person left on the planet, right?
Like literally, it would, it's reversing the population of the
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planet is the slowest fucking way into an apocalypse as
possible and they do state multiple multiple times.
We are like we do not support orcondone.
Genocide or Eugenics, like they have like a it goes further than
that, but they have like a strong moral basis for
everything but they're fucking absurd.
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The sounds like the Libertarianslike a Armageddon, because
they're just, like, no, we're not telling you every what to
do, but we're encouraging it andscan, and not everybody should
get together knife across the table.
No, no. And putting it a go.
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Legal, but we're not gonna tell you what's in it.
Yeah, yeah exactly, yeah, so, yeah, but but while their
numbers are shrinking and you know, their daycares or are
starting to grow a little bit Dusty, they need not lose hope
and Humanities demise, right? Our final doomsday is the answer
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to every Skeptics novel and every rational dreamer who looks
up At some point, we've all asked, we've all argued against
if there is such a high likelihood of Life out there in
the Stars, why do we feel so alone?
and for our last apocalyptic scenario, I introduce to you the
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largest question and the biggestanswer, which is the theory of
the great filter, The great filter seeks to answer the Fermi
Paradox which is simply there's a shit ton of math all saying
that they're supposed to be lifeout here, right?
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We have all these estimates about like how many more years
it could have started over here and could start over here?
You know, where is everyone at? Why are we alone, right more or
less. That's very very, very loose
breakdown of it and the great filter is a response to that.
It's basically the belief. Beef or the theory that there is
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some moment that takes place as any species, any advanced
intelligence, right? Precedes to evolve and progress
that in that timeline. There's a natural stopping point
where they destroy themselves before they can achieve the
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types of distance. This is they would be able to go
or need to go in space to make contact with other planets,
right? Like literally there is a great
filter and so there's like if you if you look up great filter
which I encourage, I find all the theories that people have
around it. Like absolutely fascinating.
One of them was that Elon Musk is going to save us from it one
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that came out this this week wasthat AI is the great filter.
And then another article came out that said a I might Help us
get over and through the great filter.
But every, everybody's Choice, basically, everybody's ideas are
out there because nobody knows what the fuck it is.
I feel how would you report backabout what?
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How would you report back about?What a an intelligence driven
process of destroying itself? Like Is that you never be able
to keep history of it. You never be able to document
it. Thank you for listening to the
episode 52 and a half and this minisode on different
armageddon's. We appreciate your listening and
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Follow us on our Instagram and soon, we'll be debuting our new
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Follow along with our Instagram,for more dates on that and we'll
see you on the other side.
It's hard to find a culture religion Society, or time in
history, when humans haven't held the fear of total
Extinction. In their hands defined events.
As signs of prophecies and try to predict the inevitable path.
Fate would walk before. Finally, their faith would turn
into the truth of fire and bringthe world to its knees.
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Some call it doomsday The Apocalypse Armageddon, the
second coming, the Rapture, the end of days, the last Toyota
Thon, While others, see the fourhorsemen approaching.
As they doom scroll, social media catching highlights of
their fears in the headlines of clickbait hashtags, tweet the
trending sounds of seven trumpets as the faithful watch.
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The Tick-Tock of the Doomsday Clock approach.
The dawn of 10,000 Suns, flashing at midnight before the
long nuclear. Enter.
But now as it has always been influencers, preach their
sermons and pass the collection plate through promo codes Refuge
from the coming nightmare. I was on sale between Instagram
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reels tactical flashlights tactical strollers tactical gold
bars vouched for by the enlightened community of your
Facebook congregation. This week, we're covering a
combination of catastrophes somebased in science, others Faith,
but all they're born from the truth of a fear.
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That's always been wrong. Join us as we laugh at the end
of history and kick off season 2of The Black Cat Report with the
apocalypse. Cults, catastrophes and con
artists, I didn't see you there.Something big is going on here
from hunting, goes to Bigfoot hair, normal UFOs, True Crime
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and more. We won't just be spouting
articles. I was researching For Your
Entertainment, beginning of a new world, the best Bok Gil.
Ever fucking a true story. It's basically like one day you
walk outside. And you see that the answer
playing with matches this about see you on the other side before
we get into it. I'm going to give you the secret
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recipe behind baking up a good apocalypse.
You see, when you start looking into the display case at the
Armageddon ice cream shop, you'll find there's really only
three main flavors, vanilla strawberry and chocolate.
And every, every Prophet or prophecy pretty much uses these
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to match to people's tastes. Their tastes and fear.
It is a Neapolitan of Doom. Wow, trust me this metaphor does
go somewhere but there's a purpose.
All right. So so what are they and why?
So first we have natural Extinction with examples like
super volcanoes floods, asteroids, shifts in the earth's
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polarity and plagues their Cyril, events and processes that
were the victims of but would still happen without anyone
around. It's the vanilla of Doom and
just like vanilla nature, is almost always used as the base
to make the other more exciting flavors of end times possible
next to that would be strawberryanthropogenic risks, right?
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So these are human caused conclusions to human history,
but you still use vanilla nature.
As the kill shot on. And the strawberry flavoring is
made up of our Bloodshed and ignorance things like nuclear
war, artificial intelligence, taking over climate change,
biological weapons, Etc. All of require human
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manipulation to build bomb, or Biff the natural world.
And finally, we have chocolate, human faith and belief are
prophecies and predictions. This tastes like the Antichrist,
the Ascension, the second comingof a messiah final.
Battle God's will over decisionsand fate.
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Well, there's still a lot of nature wrapped up in these
cataclysms. They wouldn't happen or exist.
If basically Some Humans weren'thuman being better than others,
or if we weren't the prize trophy of a WWF spiritual
Smackdown between the forces of good and evil, brother, now you
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a brother. So, so yeah, with with that kind
of Loose metaphor there. Well for one thing, the chicken
call it. One of our listeners started
with the kids he's leading at summer, camp needs to have more
than an idle and needs a philosophy of impending doom to
really keep them in line and committed and ice cream flavor.
Metaphors are just a way better option than trying to go through
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a bunch of really boring textbook, definitions of
Extinction scenario categories. Trust me, I read way the hell
too many pages to bring you thatNeapolitan.
So I hope you enjoy for our first apocalypse.
We will Be highlighting a little-known but sticky.
Miscalculation that still gets used as a scientific argument.
YouTube videos to this day, literally found videos
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referencing this from today and that is the Jupiter effect.
A book published in 1972 and written by John Gibbon and
Stephen. I think it's literally
pronounced plague man. Both Cambridge both Cambridge
educated astrophysicist with Apple degrees in astronomy and
(05:31):
way too long of a list of credentials to highlight.
But basically these two men wereat the top of their fields in
science and so after spending years, charting and mapping the
Angles and timing of planetary orbits around our solar system,
they eventually arrived on a single date in a very
terrifying, conclusion. March 10th 1982 Earth would be
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positioned on the opposite side of every other planet.
When they aligned perfectly behind the Sun, why is that bad?
Well, the effects of this alignment but in a sense, create
a concentrated gravitational, death ray pointed straight at
Earth, all right? The the is nuts, right?
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So the overwhelming pole of the Align Pleasant planets, gravity
would basically warp the oceans of flames on the sun.
Kind of, like the moon moves, the tides on Earth, This and
would basically then lead to a push and pull that would trigger
massive sunspots, which would cause high-speed particles to be
picked up by intense and agitated solar winds and be
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blasted straight towards Earth. Ultimately speeding up the
Earth's rotation. We actually read a book about
that. Dude what was the name of the
book? Joy age of Miracles.
A choke Miracle. It was slowing down, recommend
that book. I was slowing down but highly
recommend the book age of Miracles, for its great faster,
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all just going to fly off. That might be one of the books
that was influenced by this Theory.
I was just going to say we're all going to fly off the face of
the Earth. If it I'm okay with that.
It's just fly off. I'm ready.
I'm ready for the apocalypse. Bring it on.
Why would imagine if the Earth'srotation sped up?
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Gravity would also get heavier so you would start feeling a lot
more gravity pancakes. So you'd get heavier as would
crush. Anyone have fast again.
Our leg bones would come throughour shoulders.
Yeah, so all this comes down to our planet would basically get
sucker-punched and there. Was nothing we could do to stop
it to make the coming catastrophe, worse, the
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combination and timing of the initial impact, would focus
directly on the San Andreas fault, line and trigger an
overwhelming earthquake, that would completely level Los
Angeles basis Christ. This is like some heavy shit for
some of the world's, like foremost super scientist, people
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that do their job to like be like, hey guys, kind of found
something over here and like, That you know.
Yeah and then it turned to April2nd and they're like God just
kidding. Hey bro, you are like it's an
earth rotation joke. You wouldn't get it.
Yeah, there was you'll get it. You'll get it sooner just next
year. Ha ha ha.
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The earthquake that happened in Northridge in 1994, it was like
almost like a seven Like a whatever number 7 on the scale.
And like, yeah, and you're like,destroyed a ton of stuff but
like, that's, that's not even like to the extent that they're
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saying there's like, Earthquake is going to be that's going to
end the Earth and that was like a devastating thing that people
still talk about today. So I was just like, for
comparison. Yeah.
Well it's the date grew closer more and more people around La
began hearing about the Jupiter effect.
And while some dismissed it others couldn't help but feel a
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subtle the growing anxiety building with each passing day
for long. The Believers began reaching the
breaking point eventually leading to large numbers of Of
people choosing to sell their homes, quit their jobs and move
out of the city, thanks. They basically trusted their
fears with the academic credentials of these prophets
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and we're trying their best to get as far away as they could
from ground zero, this cut because like this is like a
10-year like heads up on shit and this book became a
best-seller. So like a course it already
became a bestsellers copies everywhere and then like the
date starts getting closer. So like it becomes more
relevant. Like I remember my parents
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talking to me when I was like I remember how young about, like,
you know, December 21st, like 2000 or like 2012, like the
Mayan calendar, just like five, six, seven years before, that
shit started popping up on TV. And I was just like, I'm done
with that doomsday. Yeah.
Oh my God. Would you be crazy and just get
over it? Yeah.
(10:19):
Yeah. Would be really crazy is, if
that it was a plan by people by like real estate developers and
home flippers that got those guys, or they bought the houses
themselves and then resold them became millionaires.
They already do that. So yes.
Wait, who's that? Who's the public remaster?
Remax published every Max publishing.
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But then something strange happened, right?
Not in the history of profits. But in this timeline, in July of
1981, of the authors of the book, John Gibbons suddenly
began to distance himself from his frightened readers, okay,
there's two years before shit supposed to go down, he began
downplaying the books, predictions his research, the
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effects of the alignment, all ofthat.
Starting to get a little nervous, a little squirrely,
right? Like I mean, then again, he is,
you know, an astronomer he's used to just being in the dark.
Nobody actually seeing him. Now, all these people like, what
do you thinks gonna happen tomorrow you need.
She's like what the fuck do you get away from me?
You know, you got a mess like I live in New England.
I'm not scared. Dumbass get oh we got a message.
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From his friends saying pie is actually three point.
One four not three point ones one and he's like, oh I thought
it was 3140 how the how the fuckdid I graduate?
Well yeah so start down playing start being like maybe it's not
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that bad this and that and the other and in February 1982 just
one month before the predicted, doomsday John Gibbon and Steven
plague Man, released a new book,The Jupiter effect reconsidered,
In it, they confident that confidently declared not to
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worry about March 10th 1982 because the Jupiter affected
already happened in 1980. When Mount st.
Helens blew up. Oh, I love the retcon, I love
that. They retconned themselves.
You know what's that? They just went back and we're
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like, oh no, it already happens,right Connie.
Like a tree rewriting. Yeah.
After it happened. They're like oh yeah.
See I told you that for his I told you it happens.
Yeah it already happens. They just like gas-lit their
followers which I think honestlymight be the most humane way to
like break apart a cult that's just like it's gas.
(12:55):
Like them like hey everybody guess what?
We don't have to kill each other.
Kill ourselves, they're saved and again, Like three weeks ago,
they just wanted to see if we would go to do it.
Now that we were almost gonna doit, we're all free.
Yeah, like in the Bible when Godsaid to kill the guy son and
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then he was gonna do anything. I was like sweat.
See was just like, wow, you wereactually gonna do it.
He's like dude I'm just doing what you did to your son.
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Oh shit. Too soon.
Took it too soon? Jesus Christ.
Well I think the important thingto keep an eye, I know somebody
fucking cheese in Christ, Jesus Christ.
Um, but uh anyways, yeah, but with all that in mind, it's
important to keep in mind that just because your doomsday is
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based in science, doesn't mean the calculations are Attic.
What science is always right, though, it was a scientist, not
if the calculations are wrong and never lies.
Yeah, and that's that's kind of the point of why I wanted to
share that little little Snippets and the craziest
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longest story in the world but like it does point out something
that's entirely science-driven right and it's entirely like
natural to Scientific. Observation were like a
scientist who probably had no idea that they were going to
like become some S in the world and like popular from this book,
like who the fuck reads these little books, you know, then it
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becomes a giant best-seller and all of a sudden like everybody's
talking about doomsday and they're like, asking advice and
he's just like, oh, shit, shit. You're not a calculator.
I don't know what to do. I wonder I wonder if there was
other books written or other research papers written against
that with different math there were.
So just just, I mean, yeah, thisheading in there like people
obviously a lot of people read the first story, but never, Read
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the retconning of it or, or readthem actually talking about
like, other people going back towards it and being like, hey,
this is actually not true. Look at the map, it's incorrect.
I redid it, instead of that guy being, you know, he's the only
story like, people don't really go back and read retractions and
papers when they make mistakes and the Nibiru cataclysm was
(15:23):
something that started up way, way, way back in the 90s, nobody
remembers that nobody's old enough here to remember that.
And it was formed or it was Proposed by this lady.
From Wisconsin. Nancy leader right.
She did it on a website called. Where is it Zeta?
Talk. Okay, she's convinced that she
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receives an as conversations with the zeta-reticulans.
Oh my God. This is, I don't know.
I don't have anything written upfor this section.
I'm just going to be honest here.
This Nibiru is basically like, how do I put this?
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It's just the herpes of Apocalypse stories.
Okay? Like basically it'll follow you
to the end of the days and at least 67% of every doomsday.
Prediction has it somewhere in it.
Like it's just constantly popping up everywhere.
There's podcasts that are just dedicated to the bureau, right?
(16:26):
And I think that they're able tomake multiple Seasons because
they're literally just been making shit up about it for so
fucking long at one point I literally saw.
So this is a, this is basically a giant ass Planet that's
supposed to be just kind of likeit's a little bit out of our way
so we can't see it at any point in time.
But then a lot of the followers constantly, Feel and try to take
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a video of basically the Sun in the sky behind some clouds and
say that's not the Sun that mustbe the Peru.
And I'm going to tell you. After we all watch a video on
the link will be in the show notes.
I highly encourage you to go watch it, but trust me, the
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audio was good. Enough.
I felt comfortable, just playingit on here.
I'll tell you the stats on that.Yo after just two weeks and I
think the number of people that comment like and keep up with
this shit. Might scare you more than the
absurdity of. There's a giant planet like
(17:32):
trying to play peek-a-boo with us.
Okay. Oh, yeah.
And the one of the main fears other than maybe it's a
Celestial hidden Celestial body From Another Dimension or it's a
planet, the size of Earth that'sgoing to head.
Into Earth and crash, and obviously destroy us.
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Or it's a spaceship or it's run by the government, which is why
they deny it. Like it literally just keeps
going and you can go back. Go, go.
Look up Nibiru sighting, right? Just go to YouTube.
Look that up and just start scrolling of like the new Bureau
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impact, and it's like 2011, and it's like any week now, it's
like 2008. A week now, like 20 23, June any
week now, and it's like, let's go there, and it's different
people posting this right now. That's like, how is this
happening? So, yeah, well, for next one.
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And I really, really, really tryto avoid the the, you know, the
milk toast, the boilerplate, the, the average, doomsday, and
Apocalypse in areas that we all know, right?
So the second coming of Christ and like that, Birth of the
Antichrist and all that shit. Like that really tried to avoid
that. We all know we all love them.
All right? We've all seen the movies.
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But I came across one case that does point to the second coming.
That was just too good, not to include and I really hope that
you enjoy it as much as I do. this is the case of the Doomsday
profit, kind of Mary Bateman Mary Bateman had an interesting
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and somewhat problematic life, but doesn't growing up in
England. In the late 1700s, we're going
to skip ahead a little bit because there's a lot of boring
time period there and get to thepart where she's about 21 years
old. And she's living in Leeds
England, where amongst other things she was working hard to
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develop a solid reputation as a fortune teller and a wise woman.
Unfortunately, the constables inthe area, didn't much care for
her kind, no matter what she did, she just kept getting
hassled by the police for the smallest, little thing by 21
years old. She was living in Leeds.
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England were amongst other things.
She was working hard to develop a solid reputation as a fortune
teller and a whines woman, but unfortunately, the constables
didn't much care for her kind and no matter what she did.
She just kept getting Hassled bythe police for the littlest
things Petty crimes and infractions, like burglary.
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Robberies, multiple failed and successful, prison escapes and
bribery. Her minor faults aside Mary was
an incredibly active and dedicated member of the leads
community. At one point.
After a massive fire had affected, many of the local
residents. She personally went out going
door-to-door begging anyone and everyone she could to to offer
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up donations to bring in donations, to help those who had
just lost everything. And, in short time, she had
amassed a large amount of money,food and supplies.
As for the people affected, by this terrible fire.
Oh, look at that. Sadly, she must have used the
same Shipping Company. The US did back in 2010.
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When Haiti was rocked by a terrible earthquake in somehow
billions of dollars went missingvery good.
I'm skipping ahead. She was the GoFundMe.
Yeah, so fast. Forwarding now to 1806.
So around 1806. Bateman joined the followers of
the Prophet. S a Kitchen profit, Joanna,
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South cotton and soon, after a, miracle took place one day,
Bateman's hen laid, an egg. And this egg happen to have a
very important message on it. Christ is coming.
Hey finally, I'm ready. I'm ready for Jesus now over and
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over again reliably. This hen Would lay an egg that
literally said on it Christ is coming, it kept going and it
went on for for just so long that eventually she started
charging people one penny to letthem in so that they could watch
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this hen lay an egg. I clear Christ is coming on it
but then just like the rest of her life.
Sadly, one day the sun was taken.
And it just suddenly stopped laying any more prophecies.
Some say because it was the henslost connection to Mary who had
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a connection to Christ. Others say, it was discovered
later that Mary had been writingChrist is coming on eggs, and
then physically putting them back in the prophetic hand.
Sadly, we may never know the truth.
Well, that keeps a mysterious, it's true, it's true.
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But luckily Mary was able to bounce back, she was able to
stay strong after the loss of profit hen and within months was
employed by a couple William andwe're Becker William and
karaoke. Yeah.
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You see Rebecca was having chestpains and Mary was the only one
skilled enough to know what was causing them a curse and for the
next two years, Mary worked tirelessly to save Rebecca by
selling the couple charms and cures and regularly feeding them
both poison pudding that the police eventually found and
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matched in her apartment when they rated it after Rebecca died
OSH. It is one of the greatest
prophets of all time. She only had that brief moment
but I just I just I just love that story.
I mean yeah, it's pretty funny because the husband didn't die
because he actually didn't like the pudding so he stopped eating
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it after awhile. So like it had to be some kind
of like lead that slowly killed them or some Mercury or
something like that. That wasn't going to kill you
right away. Just like yeah slowly killed.
You could because yeah What it is appears and leaves, and
that's it. Did they know that mercury was
poisonous at that time period though?
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Because I feel like half the shit that they were eating and
using was killing them but they didn't know it.
You know what I'm saying? Like yeah.
What's funny is that are a new? What's funny?
Is that Mary was actually in a prophetic apocalyptic cult as
she was trying to give her own profit thing.
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So Joanna, South Scott was originally a hearing voices.
That predicted future events saying that the crop failures
and famines of like 1799 and 800would come and she published her
own books and had like over a hundred thousand people that
follow her. And in 1813, she said that she
would she would give birth to the second coming of Christ.
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The second Messiah and it would signal the last days of Earth.
But she was 64 years old, and she was a virgin nurse people
think we'll see. That's you.
She said she was a virgin, but she also died because if she's
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in Tulum, that makes sense. Everyone in Tulum thinks they're
gonna give birth didn't Jesus. That makes sense.
I don't know why but it makes asmuch sense as Jesus.
All right, our next one is a wild one, although UFOs and
non-human. Entities are more commonly
accepted as a possible reality nowadays.
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This was not quite the case whenthis doomsday cult first formed
in 1953 known as the first-ever UFO.
Cult, this hive mind was formed when a University of Michigan.
Professor named Charles Lockheedmet a woman named Dorothy Martin
now Dorothy's, father had recently passed and she had been
making attempts to contact him. She soon claims she had made
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contact with something else. She had made a telepathic
connection with extraterrestrialbeings.
She called the Guardians. She had a few friends that would
gather at her house to listen tothese otherworldly messages.
This is what got Lockheed intrigued.
He introduced her to his small non-denominational church, which
already had a bias towards the Paranormal and spirituality they
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called themselves. The Seekers See the first-ever
UFO cult? What do you guys think about
that? I think it's great and I
thought, wow, it's pretty awesome.
I mean, I seen 50 there is less than 10 years after Roswell and
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Trinity, they're just like, hey,we should get married.
We ready to go. All right, so Dorothy quickly
became a figurehead and relate her messages to the group.
The Guardians had warned her that the apocalypse was coming
on. December 21st?
1954. There would be terrible for
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Solstice. There would be terrible
earthquakes and floods that would destroy the Earth.
But boy, did they have luck on their side because of the beings
connection with Dorothy? The Guardians would be coming to
pick them up on a UFO to save them from the impending
destruction of the planet. Whoo, dodged a bullet here.
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So nice. Fuck.
Yeah. To prepare for this.
Some people did go to such extremes as to quit their jobs.
They took it very seriously. Oh my God, yes.
Yeah. The hell people are dropping out
of, like, School, the quitting their jobs, fucking like all
sorts of shit. Well, the hilarious thing was
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that the day came and went beingconfronted by the perception of
reality not coinciding, with theevents of that day, some left,
but most stayed. You see it wasn't that they were
wrong. Per se, the end of days was
actually going to be on December24th.
What about that? Doesn't make sense for God.
Their calendar, their calendars,a few days like behind like that
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at all. So like they said, 20, but I
didn't change for the time zonesand I did she does that all the
time. That's a normal thing, you know
what I'm saying? Like, we all do it doodles It
just sticks of it. All right.
Do you Dooms Day? December 24th.
The Seekers were so sure that this was going to happen that
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they invited the entire town to come and be saved by the aliens.
Dorothy. Got a message that they were to
wait outside and sing Christmas carols until their ride showed
up. So, this group surrounded by
townsfolk, just watching began to nervously.
Sing. And like there are photos of
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them going up to it. There was like, 200 people that
showed up for this like they were surrounded by a mob of
folks, this is like small group of like UFO cult this and just
like, really really nervously frantically.
Carolyn pay-per-view King singing Christmas carols in a
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circle. Surrounded by hundreds of people
waiting for a UFO. All right.
I'd say this is right, yeah, I agree.
There is nothing to do that. Okay yeah that shows you how
much there is to do in the midwest.
There's literally nothing to do they're like, hey well these
doomsday for cure putting on a show Yeah, talk to one of them
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earlier motherfuckers. Think that's the Sun?
Hmm. Once again the world did not end
and their Uber never showed. I wish I could say this was the
end of this cult. But while most said actually
fuck this and left the few who stayed, again being confronted
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by their reality not matching, the reality of the world could
not accept, they were wrong. Instead she easy discomfort of
their beliefs being incongruent to reality, the new message was
that they had actually saved theplanet somehow.
We did it. We did it.
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Wait wait wait. The planet was ha.
Yeah, yeah the flood the the fluids in the earth.
Wait. Oh, so they were going to get
pulled up to save them from thisplanets destruction.
Yes. But somehow, their caroling
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stopped, whatever force was going to flood and break apart
the. But I think like, wasn't it.
Did you, did you get into that? Wasn't their belief that like
the entirety of the continent ofthe United States?
Would like collapse into the ocean and like basically form a
new ocean or something, it was gonna get real wild.
That's what I'm trying to say. They were saying they were going
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to be like, cataclysmic, earthquakes and floods.
You see The Seekers had managed to get infiltrated by an
undercover psychologist. Leon festinger made his way into
the group as a new member little.
Did they know he was actually studying them?
I kind of imagine it as like, him standing in the corner.
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Scripts huddle together around Dorothy and they're like, yeah,
tell us more. And she's like, okay yeah.
So anyway, the These were like and then she looks over and
she's like, who's that? And they're like, oh that's
that's just head, and he's just like, peeking out kind of lamp.
Stenographer. Hmm.
Yeah, he's got the lampshade on his head as I don't mind me.
(32:23):
I'm just here to. Sorry, be picked up by the UFO.
My other one. My foil one is on the way right
now, so I had to use a borrower,you know?
But uh but yeah, all right, whenhe caught wind, that this group
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of people believed that the world would be ending and that
they would be taken away in a UFO.
He knew he had to be there to document and study their
behavior. When the prediction and belief
did not come true. The study of this doomsday cult
was the birth of one of festinger's.
Most famous theories the theory of cognitive dissonance.
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This is literally the cognitive dissonance when that entire
theory was built was on the first UFO cult.
All right. So what is cognitive?
Dissonance cognitive, dissonanceis the uneasiness that you feel
when you have conflicting beliefs.
An example would be lets say if UFO cult believed the end of the
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world was coming on to 20, December 21st or something and
then had to believe the reality that the world didn't end when
they saw. All that.
Nothing happened. So much discomfort came from
that they had invested so much into this belief system that
they changed the date of the literal end of the world to
alleviate that discomfort. This is cognitive dissonance
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even though they were so so wrong, A cult was responsible
for inspiring one of the most interesting and widely used
psychological theories today. Wild well.
If you love that. Then you're probably going to
hate this. This is one of my favorite
things that I've come across in.So fucking long, and it's very
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straightforward, but you could just go on and on and date for
days and days and days. And, and really get into the
philosophy and the beliefs that develop here.
So, here's the thing, like when we speak of apocalypse and times
Doomsday's, Etc, it's easy to fall into the imagery of
complete and total worldwide destruction, right?
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That's generally what we think of, when we think of a doomsday
or an apocalypse, but one group,one group started praying to
stop all that. They're my new favorite Church.
This group took, how do you say a little bit of a different
approach to forming religion. Instead of trying to use science
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to prove religion, they decided to build their religion around
science and they did this with one simple goal in mind to save
nature. And so what's their conclusion
kill yourself? Eat your friends and save the
planet. They are the Church of
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euthanasia. And it's not in that order
either. It's not a network, kind of name
is no, you can't kill yourself, then eat other people.
Well, these are these are options.
Okay? General good lines.
Yes, this is. What is this is why you need to
go to church. Yes, and they and they have a
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new onset of values spiced with all.
Sorts of self-loathing religiousphilosophy that I can only
describe as basically elevator music for extinction.
Founded in Boston in 1992. The Church of euthanasia or Co e
practice a modern-day anti-nato list philosophy, which basically
means they are super super against having kids, but it
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doesn't just stop with childbirth.
It Formed, he say it there set of practices around four main
pillars and they added in these little asterisks additions to
them. So number one, suicide optional.
But encouraged number to abortion, may be required to
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avoid procreation. Number three, cannibalism
mandatory. If you insist on eating flesh,
but only if one is already dead and number for sodomy, any
sexual act not intended for procreation That their main goal
(36:53):
behind this, right? So, they were inspired by the
Dada is to like art and culturalmovement from back in the day,
which is all based around. Just complete and utter like the
the chaos of absurdity and orderto encourage folks to basically
change their ways and change their actions.
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And so just being so out like that and saying, things like
that. Hey, I think they actually do
practice. Not having kids, but be there
trying to point out that like, humans are destroying the
fucking planet and frankly we should all fucking die.
Like that is they are straight. Yep.
They are the only church and they advertise at that wants all
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of their members to kill themself, not a cult, not a, not
a group activity, but like, if they're comfortable with it,
it's fucking off yourself, like All right, all right.
I just I don't know. There's something about that as
a that as an apocalypse are likean Armageddon that's just like
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so fucking fascinating to me, right?
So it's not an in-your-face and it's not like you know fire and
brimstone and UFOs with fire andbrimstone.
It's not like that. It's just literally like being
like a Jehovah's Witness and like going door to door and be
like, hey you thought about? I don't know.
Suicide or eating your friend who's already dead?
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Dead or are you my psychiatrist?It out of here.
You never to come back here, butthey are there to play out their
beliefs to the actual end. It would mean that there would
be one person left on the planet, right?
Like literally, it would, it's reversing the population of the
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planet is the slowest fucking way into an apocalypse as
possible and they do state multiple multiple times.
We are like we do not support orcondone.
Genocide or Eugenics, like they have like a it goes further than
that, but they have like a strong moral basis for
everything but they're fucking absurd.
(39:01):
The sounds like the Libertarianslike a Armageddon, because
they're just, like, no, we're not telling you every what to
do, but we're encouraging it andscan, and not everybody should
get together knife across the table.
No, no. And putting it a go.
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Legal, but we're not gonna tell you what's in it.
Yeah, yeah exactly, yeah, so, yeah, but but while their
numbers are shrinking and you know, their daycares or are
starting to grow a little bit Dusty, they need not lose hope
and Humanities demise, right? Our final doomsday is the answer
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to every Skeptics novel and every rational dreamer who looks
up At some point, we've all asked, we've all argued against
if there is such a high likelihood of Life out there in
the Stars, why do we feel so alone?
and for our last apocalyptic scenario, I introduce to you the
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largest question and the biggestanswer, which is the theory of
the great filter, The great filter seeks to answer the Fermi
Paradox which is simply there's a shit ton of math all saying
that they're supposed to be lifeout here, right?
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We have all these estimates about like how many more years
it could have started over here and could start over here?
You know, where is everyone at? Why are we alone, right more or
less. That's very very, very loose
breakdown of it and the great filter is a response to that.
It's basically the belief. Beef or the theory that there is
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some moment that takes place as any species, any advanced
intelligence, right? Precedes to evolve and progress
that in that timeline. There's a natural stopping point
where they destroy themselves before they can achieve the
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types of distance. This is they would be able to go
or need to go in space to make contact with other planets,
right? Like literally there is a great
filter and so there's like if you if you look up great filter
which I encourage, I find all the theories that people have
around it. Like absolutely fascinating.
One of them was that Elon Musk is going to save us from it one
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that came out this this week wasthat AI is the great filter.
And then another article came out that said a I might Help us
get over and through the great filter.
But every, everybody's Choice, basically, everybody's ideas are
out there because nobody knows what the fuck it is.
I feel how would you report backabout what?
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How would you report back about?What a an intelligence driven
process of destroying itself? Like Is that you never be able
to keep history of it. You never be able to document
it. Thank you for listening to the
episode 52 and a half and this minisode on different
armageddon's. We appreciate your listening and
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