August 21, 2023 • 60 mins
In Part 2 🏴☠️🏴☠️ we delve deeper into the lives of two fierce pirate legends, Anne Bonny and Mary Read. These formidable women prove that they were not just your average sailors, as their stories take a dramatic turn when they cross paths with pirate hunters and become entangled in a battle for their lives. Unlucky circumstances bring them face to face with danger, and the episode explores their epic fight for survival. From the stormy seas of the Bahamas to the intense battles on the high seas, Anne and Mary show us what it means to be lethal weapons in their own right.
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Flags on the high seas were important, and mostly a way to
recognize who was who on the seas before he actually got on
board. One of the most famous flags was
that of Blackbeard's. His flag featured a horn
standing skeleton with a drink in one hand, raising his toast
to death, and a spear in the other.
Aimed into a heart dripping withblood, are Jack Rackham's and
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Bonnie and Mary Reed's flag. It was a bit simpler.
There was a human skull with twocutlasses crossing underneath
it, curling up around the skull.To me, I believe that the skull
is representing Calico Jack and the two cutlasses belonging to
Mary and Anne. Now just imagine on the high
seas and you see a flag raised on a ship that's chasing you,
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and it's the flag of two cutlasses and a skull.
The ship is much faster than youand most likely more well armed.
When they boarded, you were morethan likely.
If you're a woman, either turnedinto a sex slave, then killed or
immediately killed. If you were a man, you're
pressing the servitude on the pirate ship or auctioned off on
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the highest bidder nearby, localpirate dents.
You were doomed. I didn't see you there.
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Fucking. True story.
It's basically like one day you walk outside and you see that
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the ants are playing with matches.
This is the. Blackout Report.
See you on the other side. Welcome to the Blackout Report
and episode 59. Ann, Bonnie and Mary Reid, Part
2. And Betsy that your host.
And with me is Gil. Hello, Hello.
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And Joey. Hello.
At the moment we now have Ann and Mary on the same ship.
Ann is in love with the pirate Captain Jack Bratton or as we
know him, Calico Jack, the well dressed pirate.
Unlike our friend Steve Bonnett,who was the gentleman pirate.
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So it's here we will talk about some of the pirate code that was
built by pirates and described by Charles Johnson in his book A
General History of Pirates Book.We are going to delve into this
because it's necessary to know the rules of the sea in between
pirates so we can understand thesignificance of these two female
pirates. Also because it's pretty damn
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cool that a group of. Almost lawless people can come
together and set up an awesome pirate cook that will honestly
predates a lot of the democracies we know today.
Real quick though I did want to say to like throw in here.
Excellent, excellent, excellent book called Anarchy works by
Peter Gelder Loose. You can find it online for free.
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It's actually really short. It's a anthropological, like
breakdown of different governmental systems throughout.
History and throughout differentlike cultures.
Basically before Europeans came in and killed folks and then
gave one person guns or gave oneperson weapons are like you're
king now. So it was like, hey, you know,
what were people doing before wewent around the world and tried
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to recreate like, you know, kingdoms and hierarchies.
But one of the things that he references, which actually
doesn't fit with what I just said, but it's still an
important part here, is anarchism working.
As a political ideology, and it's different than anarchy.
But anarchism is a political ideology working and developing
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in pirate ships specifically. And he goes into like fucking
like fascinating detail about like how essentially like.
Even though they're out like slaughtering people and like,
stealing people's shit, they were still super, super
progressive. Kind of like how some people
think the United States is superprogressive while we're out
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slaughtering people and killing people's shit.
Anyways, it's about the ideology.
Yeah, but but internally. Though.
Yeah, but but even in practice though, like the way that they
that they organized their shit and that they ran things.
It was fascinating. It was so, so, so progressive
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for its time. Like, I'm talking like 5-6,
seven hundred years, like into the future.
Progressive for its time, where it's like, it was normal for
folks who basically had like brown skin to be like ordering
people around that were on a ship where it was like filled
with like white English folks. And that was completely normal.
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And it was just based off of merit and it was based off of
respect. And this is also how you end up
with the situation where we havetwo ladies coming in as pirates
because it was just based off oflike, yo, who's going to get us
that loot? Who's going to make the good
decisions? Who's going to make the call
when the time is right and it surpassed, you know, the the the
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bias and the bigotry that was socommon at the time.
They were like, I don't give a fuck if she's a woman.
She gets me paid. Like and I'm going to have her
fucking back and like shit's fucking fascinating sorry side
tangent there. But seriously, it's an excellent
book and it's full of a lot of really great little like
stories. And you'll learn a lot of fun
history facts. Thank you for sharing that,
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girl. And to be fair, the UN banner
should just say that it's the thought that counts.
Yeah, that should be the new UN banners.
You're welcome. Steve Bonnett's flag.
It's the thought. That shit.
I'm bad at math. Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, now, thank you. Thank you for sharing that girl.
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Yeah, I have some quotes pulled up if you want.
Yeah, I'm just. Kidding.
We can go into that. We can go into the pirate codes
first. That would be.
Cool. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, all right, first rule in the Pirate Code.
Every man has a vote in the affairsive moment.
Has equal title to the fresh provisions or strong liquors at
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anytime cease and may use them at pleasure, unless a scarcity
makes it necessary for the good of all to vote a retrenchment.
All right, Captain, we're getting closed out of spirits.
Wash buckles. Hey, hey, my man, you know.
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You know why? You're my first mate.
You know, because of that time in Kabul with the jet ski, Yeah.
What? What?
Nothing. Nothing.
So. So I was thinking, I was
thinking I was up late last night, I was swimming around and
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now there's nowhere to swim. And I was thinking, a vote for
what? Retreatment.
For for, you know, the thing where we vote on the thing.
Yeah. Retrenchment.
Retrenchment, yeah? Looking at me like that, but I
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didn't drink it all and that's not why we're out of liquor
right now. But anyways, so so I was
thinking about the vote for retrenment.
So as the boys don't know what they don't know, you know what?
What? What?
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Anyways, I think it's time we renamed the ship.
We should we should name it something cool.
Though this time, don't say revenge.
Don't say revenge, Don't say. Revenge that it was already
named when I got here, and it's just kind of like stepping in as
like a little manager when like there's already a crew and they
already know each other and theydon't invite me out bowling on
weekends and I was thinking the Pixie Savage.
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Okay, okay, okay. I'll go get out of that.
That wasn't even my first bet. I was just warming up.
I was just warming. I was getting you ready for the
real one. I was thinking the frightened
fairies. No.
Yeah, yeah, you're right. The ooh, I got it.
I got it. The revenge.
And that's what it'll be. Revenge for whatever Ghost took
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our booze last night around 3:00AM.
Well anyways, second rule is every meant to be called fairly
in turn by list on board of prices.
Because they were on these locations allowed a shift of
clothes, but if they degraded the company of the value of a
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dollar in play, jewels or money,ruining was their punishment if
the robbery was only betwixt oneanother.
They contented themselves with slitting the ears and nose of
him that was guilty, and set himon shore, not in an unhabited
place, but somewhere where he was sure to encounter hardships.
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You know, they call me Calico Jack, but to be quite fucking
honest, I'm colorblind. I'm fucking colorblind.
Like, why do you think it took me so long to make that goddamn
flag? Okay, Everybody's making fun of
the flag. This thing is in black and
white. I'm fucking color blinded, you
know? I didn't know that the last, the
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last ship, the last hull that wecalled it was a goddamn clown
ship. So now they're calling me Calico
Jack. But anyways, it's a yard.
I might not be able to see colors, but it's a damn good
thing the crew can't read The Revenge.
Third rule is no person to game cards or dies for money.
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Fourth rule, the lights and candles to be put out at 8:00 at
night. If any of the crew after that
hour still remain inclined for drinking, they were to do it on
the open deck. Yeah, our boys get out the grog.
It's time to head to the deck. Let's get drunk and look at the
stars. I keep trying to tell it they
sleep is important. 5th rule is to keep their peace.
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Pistols and cutlass clean and fit for service.
This one makes sense, right? Got to always be ready for
battle to get your booty six. Rule is to desert the ship or
their quarters in battle was punished with the death or
marine. To the death, boys.
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Or if you don't, I'll kill you. Or well, I guess I'll.
Pay you, but just be you'll justbe dead to me.
But I won't invite you to the Tea Party.
That's what I'm trying to say. Seven rule is no striking one
another on board, but every men squirrels to be ended on shore
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it's sore and pistol. Eighth rule is no men to talk of
breaking up their way of living till each other has shared £1000
if in order to do this any men should lose a limb.
Or become a cripple in their service.
He was to have $800 out of the public stop and for Lesser
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Hertz, proportionately. Real quick on that.
That was a huge thing and that eventually transferred into
what? God, this doesn't help the the
pro union movement, but that eventually transferred into like
unions, like workers unions. Where people would get
compensation for like getting injured on the job and it was
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seen as like a collective responsibility in the workforce.
Like if you were a coal miner and you know one of your
comrades or whatever got injured, then like you
automatically got pay. You got like a pension, you got
you got a cut, like a disabilitycut.
Or like, you know, if you died then like your family would.
But that shit's fucking cool, dude.
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I mean, I know you said that. Like it.
It wouldn't help pro unions, butI think honestly, if they
weren't named unions but pirates, more people would join
the actual unions. There would be unions
everywhere. Yeah, like nobody would complain
about dues. They'd be like, I mean, I have
to pay them. They're fucking pirates.
They will kill me will. Fucking kill me, I Captain.
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One of our crew lost all his limbs.
I E which one was that limbless Joe again?
No, it was jumping Jack, sad to say.
God damn it, he could jump so high.
Yar. He was one of the best
basketball players we had. How are we going to beat the
Globetrotters now? OK, well the ninth rule is the
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captain and the quartermaster toreceive 2 shares of the prize.
The master, both Swain and Gunner one share and a half, and
other officers one in four. What?
The hell does that mean That means their percentage of the
share? That's all that that means.
But the God damn. 10th rule is the musicians do have rests on
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the Sabbath day, but the other six days and nights none without
special favor. Whoa, watch out, musicians.
Yeah, right, Sir. It's the Sabbath day.
The band is taking a rest. You are correct.
It is the Sabbath day. I am Iron Man, Sir.
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It's their rest day. They they don't play today.
No, no, it's it's it's Black Sabbath day.
Why? Why did I put on All Black and
bite the head off a bat? Why?
Who put this on my calendar? I really don't know, Captain.
I really, really, really don't know.
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Revenge. Oh my God.
Well, the last rule, and the most pertinent rule for Ann and
Mary is no boy or woman to be allowed amongst them if any men
were to be found seducing any ofthe later sex and carry her to
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sea. Disguise.
He was to suffer death. This is interesting today
because at this moment neither Mary nor Anne were disguised,
but they were put on board by Captain Ratton, which I suppose
a lot of the times the captain can bend the rules.
Well, at least a little bit. And since he was a good captain,
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he wouldn't be. Meet me.
One of the folk tales that was told is that.
Women were bad luck and ships kind of like blackheads.
Well, this was started by a legend in the Roman times of
sirens luring Roman men and ships to their doom.
This slowly, over time grew intothe legend that women were bad
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luck. Well, this couldn't be further
from the truth. As most women were diligent
workers and as the author states, provided A motherly
touch to the shit. How absolutely progressive.
Although I will say the author'swords, I know, I know.
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I will say that looking back on queer history, being a sailor.
Has always been like the go to career for folks that want to be
more out with like being queer, being gay.
Like it just it always has been.It straight up always has been.
And I can't look at this and just be like like even the
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legend of like Sirens was like, Oh my God, it's a lady.
She's trying to get us over there.
Run like it's just like no, Jeff, don't do it.
But she's really cute and she said she could save me money on
my cart. Jeff, don't do it.
You know, like, like naval work has always, always, always been
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a part of queer history. Like it always has been.
And this kind of fits especiallylike back in the Roman times or
even like in the Greek times. Like, I don't know.
And and I will say there is the technicality for Calico.
Mary and Ann weren't disguised. They literally just walked up as
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themselves. So it's like, Yar, we can't do
anything. They're not wearing a fake
mustache, you know? Like, yeah, yeah, they can't do
anything about it, but yeah. They're just like, why are you
so obsessed with me? Yeah, the ladies are here.
We're supposed to act straight again.
God damn it. Well, let's get back to the
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story. Ann and Mary are on Jack
Brackman's shit. They are both pirates.
At the moment, there's so back and forth between whether Ann
and Mary were in a relationship or not.
But what is known is that they were very, very, very good
friends with the governor on their tail.
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They decided to head to Jamaica.Yeah, so cruel.
Hell yeah. Oh my God, I hope that there's
really cute old timey photos of them with their hair braided.
Yeah. Yeah, like, like everybody who
grew up in the 90s and went to the Caribbean at some point had
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done, but now I was afraid to have published on the Internet.
I had them every time I went to the beach I was.
Ha ha. Fuck you.
No shame. My family was too poor to go to
the Caribbean, so I don't have those.
I mean, this was in Mexico, so. My family was too poor to go to
Mexico, so I don't have those photos.
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The only place we went was Canada, which back when I was a
kid, you could I I'm pretty sureI was like the 10th richest
person in Canada when I went like, wow, money was nothing
back then. God, the good old days.
Back when a Canuck was a Canuck and Maple syrup float free
anyways. Anyways, well, going to Jamaica
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was a good choice as it was richand sugar and a haven for
pirates. As you can see in Pirates of the
Caribbean, they had a lot of funthere.
During this time patrols were ramped up due to increased
piracy and also the growing government being set up in the
area. Rackham had a small and fast
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ship, which we know from our State Bonnet series was the
Sloop, the Sloop, Sloop, baby. Sloop, baby.
They set out for the northern harbors of Jamaica and robbed a
few small ships. They didn't get much, and the
crew started getting a little fidgety.
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Mary stepped up to the plate andadvised Rackham that it was time
to lie low for a bit until a fewbigger ships came by with better
treasure. Strategy worked.
They lied low. And will hide in the boat until
fishing ships will get closer, and then before they knew it,
they would pop up and then raid an attack.
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That's a great idea. Yeah, it's a great idea.
She's using her military skills that she learned while she was
in England and in Belgium I. Think in it.
Yep, Netherland. A lot of the fishing ships and
non warships did not have enoughweapons for soldiers to repel
the invaders. Most of the time they would
surrender without a shot fire, which was the preference of the
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pirates. Mary used her, yes, you said
Mary used her military training with the British during the
Grand Alliance War and the War of Spanish Succession to her
advantage. She was usually the one leading
the charge on boarding the otherships and was fierce in battle.
At this time, Anne was not yet trained, so Mary decided she
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wanted to train in in battle. One of their biggest weapons,
says the author, is Sir Cross Dressing.
Yeah, it's what is he a fucking pundit for, like, 2023 Fox News?
Like drag Queens are the biggestthreat to society.
Don't look at climate change. Don't look at the nuclear arms
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race. Don't look at the home like drag
Queens reading children's books under complete supervision with
27 cameras. They're trying to turn your
kids. Yeah, but there's nothing wrong
with being gay. But they're trying to turn them
gay, so you should be afraid. During the normal days they will
wear what is traditionally women's clothes, and on battle
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days they will wear what is traditionally men clothes, with
one caveat. They would, and I quote from the
author, terrify their enemies with their breasts.
Wow, titties. This.
Pretty much. They were just like titties and.
Guns, This is exactly what I wassaying earlier.
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It's always been a safe haven for queer folks.
They're just like titties. No, no.
I'm blind, Steve. I'm blind.
I'm. Blind Steve.
Steve Oh my God, it should be intro to that titty song.
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Titties, titties. I have no clue what you're
talking about. It's a song.
It's a song. Yeah, it's a titty song.
I know I just top. 10 on the Billboard had 100.
Is it? No.
I don't know. If it was.
I was just making that up. That probably could have been, I
don't know. Hold on, Can we pause the show?
I'm looking up a titty song. Oh God, Why don't I go to Google
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Images? Oh my.
God. It's it.
Did it auto corrected to titty's?
Thongs I'm gonna need about 5 to10 seconds.
You guys, hold on. Oh my God.
Believe. It And we're back.
Well, this crew was very sneaky in how they did things.
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I'm like Black Bear using his might.
Bracken didn't have the fleet ofships so they will have to be
sneaky and how they took ships. They sell into Espanola and
befriended a few French fishermen.
They traded with them and then invited them onto their boat for
drinks and dinner. Well they then overpowered the
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fishermen and forced them into their crew and took their
supplies. So they basically took their
supplies back. Now it was time to head back out
onto the ocean. They did.
Some pirate shit, yeah. Yeah, literally.
Just to do pirate shit. Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, I'm like that's that wasn't it.
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I feel like that was like a morecomplicated and this was on the
author I'm sure, but it was likea more complicated breakdown of
Then they did this and they tookthis from these people and it's
like. They They were pirates.
That's what they did all day, isn't it?
Yeah, but it's like, yeah, but it's cool that it's cool that
they like instead of just like getting on their ship, taking
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their stuff and just being like,all right, cool, come on There.
They basically were like, Oh no,let's go get drunk and and eat
together. And then instead of yeah.
So like instead of just taking all their stuff and just being
like, whatever, it's fine, they like went on their ship and met
them. Ate with him, got drunk with
him. And then we're like, now it's
time to take your stuff that we just traded for because we
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traded you stuff. And then they just.
I'm not going. To they just took their supplies
back. I'm not going to lie.
I snuck in earlier and stole a piece of pie off the window sill
of the ship and I tasted it. I realized that it was beyond
currency. It was beyond wealth and.
I just didn't feel right coming in here and taking your shit.
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Knowing that that pie was there.I would need to eat some.
And so I had to come in and takeeven more from you.
I had to take your trust so as Icould take some pie, and now
that the pie is gone, give me your shit.
Yeah, literally all of it. Damn, that's cold.
If I was a pirate, I would just steal food.
I learned this one from the Pilgrims when on the first
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Thanksgiving. Right afterwards, they murdered
them. Alright, well, they headed back
to Aruba, Jamaica. Ooh, I wanna.
See you. Yeah, that's where I wanna.
Go. Wait, what?
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Sorry. Go back in Jamaica.
They headed back to Jamaica. At this time Ann's fighting was
equal to that of Mary. Now words started spreading
around of Bracken and two femalepirates, which I do believe that
Ann and Mary start was starting to burn brighter than Bracken
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right now. Well now we will bring back into
the story our old cuckold husband James.
Bonnie. James was given a ship and they
marked to go after Ann and Mary.Well, it didn't last long as
James, chasing a pirate ship, was hit by a storm and his ship
stink and everyone on board died.
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He's worse than Steve Vodit. No, but he was just average.
Yeah, I know he was average until this moment.
I mean, to be fair, he couldn't help that he got hit by a storm
because they happen all the timein the Bahamas, in that, you
know, that area. I think he just kind of got
unlucky. But he wasn't even chasing their
pirate ship. He was chasing Charles Vane.
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He he was chasing another one. So he didn't know it was not, he
didn't know it was not Jack Rackham ship.
But he, you know earlier we talked about that James Bonnie
took up pretty much became like the other side of and of Anne
because he was like, I'm going to start chasing at the pirate
ships and she's like, I'm going to go be on a pirate ship.
And so he, he just kind of, you know, became the other side of
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it. And you know, they kind of had,
you know, they parted ways alongthe way obviously because.
But as we find out, I mean, theywere both still married.
They never really got rid of their married, you know, so it
was very so now they're really married I.
Mean now they're really not married anymore.
Cuz he's dead. Yeah, cuz so now she's a widow.
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Yep. Hell yeah.
Makes her look cooler. Damn, she did get cooler.
I'm sure she got like a little bit of like, Gray hair, but like
just in a streak in the front. You know what I'm saying?
Like next to her widow's peak. And it was like, but like I will
say, the only way he could go full Steed Bonnet, right?
If he's going to go full steed bonnet is if he got caught in a
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storm and a ship sank as it was like stuck on land, then that
would have been a Steed Bonnet. Movies like We're Sinking
Captain. How we're stuck on a sand barn,
I don't know. It's 15.
People have already died. And your favorite goat, No.
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And then he survives and he's the only survivor.
Nice. That's that would have been a
steed bonnet just getting caughtin a storm.
Hey, that happens to the best ofthem, you know.
Yeah, I guess we can call that you've been steeded.
Yeah, funny. I love it.
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Oh, Steed. Oh, Steve, I miss you.
Mary and Ann both created a strategy, basically to surprise
merchant ships. They jumped on board with
flowing hair and shirts open. Hell yes, Tit is.
Tit is. Everywhere this plan they took
on the vision of sirens and the merchants pretty much
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immediately surrender. I wonder why does.
That mean they started singing. I.
Sirens are supposed to have the siren song.
They're supposed to like lure folks into the rocks and have
them crash. And then if you get into the
real dark stories and they eat them because mermaids used to be
really fucking evil back. Yeah, they used to be.
I don't think they sang. I think they just yelled things
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and like pretty much overwhelm this.
Yeah, you know I can't stand concentric circles.
No. And they were always the first
ones on board, too. So like, that was the crazy
thing is like, not. The other Pirates wouldn't even
have to go on board. They pretty much just went on
board. And they were just like we're
take it, we're good. 2 ladies, Yeah.
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Four boobs? Yeah, one Fine.
Like, it's terrible to make thisabout like gender, but the fact
that part of their, like, a key part of their strategy was just
like getting drunk and flashing other ships.
Like, definitely fits in. Yeah, they were living their
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best life. It seems like they were taking a
long vacation in Mardi Gras. They could have taken over
entire countries if they would have like, flashed their Hoo.
Ha, like, I'm just saying if theBeaver would have came out, Oh
my God, no. That Jamaica would be different.
Cuba would be different. Like it would everything would
have been changed. At least the.
Course of history would have been changed if they would have
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flashed their Beaver. Well, if they were in the New
England colonies at that old time, they probably would have
been burned at the stake, but you know.
Well, I mean, yeah, different times.
Slight breeze would have revealed their ankle and like
everything would have caught on fire.
Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, this is so.
This is too much. Mary and Ann were both fierce in
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battle and unknowledgeable in strategy.
Brackton high on his horse afterwinning a few battles, I was
thinking he was untouchable. Well, the pride comes before the
fault, right? As they were sailing around the
island of Jamaica, they found a canoe with one woman in it.
Her name was Dorothy Thomas Ann and Mary advised Ragman to leave
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her alone and just move on. After all, it was just one
person and there was no reason for it.
Ragman, nor Ann and Mary's advice and capture her and
robbed her canoe. I'm still tough.
I can still do things. I'm still cool.
I'm a pirate. I'm a pirate.
Look at my chest. Look at my chest.
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He tried to do what they did. He jumped on board with this
shirt open and Dorothy was just like, what are you doing?
You're going to want to put somecoconut oil on that hunt down.
My nipples are so chapped. How do you keep them out so
much? Yeah, the salt water in the air
really gets too. It's like this is really hard.
She like slinks back to the shipand and Mary then advice.
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Well, we shouldn't allow her to leave and we should kill her
again. Ignore them and let her go.
I think we should give her. Money, I think.
I think we should give her a 401K.
I godmother, godmother, my future children.
That's what I think we should do, cuz I'm captain.
I still make decisions. Everyone listens to me.
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Kind of go, Jack. They then attacked another
merchant ship not too long aftercalled the Mary and Sarah.
They took hostage Captain Dylan,the captain of the ship Rackham.
Ann and Mary now had command of three ships.
They were building their fleet at this time.
Rackham decided it was time to chase and take any ship that
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came within range. This was his.
On doing another governor named Sir Nicholas Laws put on that
bounty on Rackham and Mary. Hold on.
His name is Nicholas Laws. His last name is literally laws.
He was born to be a governor or judge.
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Sir was actually technically hisfirst name.
Eventually he'd be known as Sir Sir Nicholas Laws, but yeah.
Just like Captain Dylan, his first name was Captain.
Damn, I feel like he was just born onto a pile of Manila
envelopes. That guy had to have been a
fucking riot at parties. Holy shit with.
With one of those old white wigson, he was born with that as it
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came out of his mom. What that cool this is?
Natural and the little gavel. Ding Ding He hired a former
pirate named Gene Bon Doby. Bon Jovi.
It's it's. I was going.
To say hire John Bon Jovi, it's it's salt waters tightening my
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pants. I just damn it.
Because I'm a pirate on a woodenship.
I ride and I want it. Want it?
We're halfway. There, God, Captain, we'll stop
singing this song. We're not halfway there.
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It's my life and it's the worst fucking ship to be on.
Oh my God. The Jon Bon Jovi Jovi ship What?
The fuck. And you know, it would be named.
It would be named the Jon Bon Jovi too.
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I'm a caramel steel Brad wanted to get.
It it's it's Jean Bondeve. Jean Bondeve French.
He hired a former pirate named Jean Bondeve.
Bondeve knew places that they would use and he caught up with
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them on the coast of Jamaica. Bracken chased Bond Bay off due
to Bond Bay not being ready for battle it.
Didn't make any sense because heliterally saw them and was like,
cool, I'm going in there. And Bracken was like fucking
fire at him. And so they literally just
started firing at him because Rackham was like, I don't know
this guy. And so they just shot him and
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shot at him. Bonding was like, Oh no, he
pulled the steed bond and he just wasn't ready and was like,
oh God, now we got to go. And so he just ran from the
battle, and they're all just like.
OK, that was easy. Goodbye to you.
This is the story of my life. Yeah.
Yeah. Pont Bay retreated back to
Jamaica and then ran into another pirate hunter named
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Captain Jonathan Barnett. He was pretty famous at the time
for hunting down pirate ships. He studied and used spies to
find out where pirates were hiding out.
So Captain Barnett decided he wanted to go after Rackham
almost immediately. After a few weeks he found out
through his spies that Rachman, Ann and Mary were in Negril's
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Bay off the coast in Jamaica. Barnett and Bond Base sailed to
meet them. It was at this time that Rachman
and crew were pretty much drunk of celebrating their most recent
win and almost setting out in the open, ripe for attack.
With most of the crew drunk and Rachman himself unable to stand,
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Ann and Mary stood watch. They had six sense, or rather,
they were intelligent and knew they were pirate hunters out for
them. And they were sitting ducks.
Did you all not notice all of the posters in town?
Like, like all of the they have our full legal names.
They have like half of our biographies written down,
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descriptions of our locations. And goddamn it, Rachman, every
fucking time we stop at a port, you just have to leave the map,
don't you? Of where we're going.
What happens if something bad happens?
What happens if something bad isKnow where we are?
God damn it. Barnett and Bombay waited until
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nightfall smartly, thinking the pirates were wasted and wouldn't
be able to fight back. Two hours after nightfall, they
moved into position. It's gonna be a With most of the
pirates drunk, it was left up tomarry Anne and Rackman.
Once the first cannonball hit the ship, Brackman froze and
lost his result. Mary and Ann took control after
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rack and told the pirates to go high under the deck as the
sailors were running into the hole.
Mary yelled at them. If there's some men among you,
you'll come up and fight like the men you are to be.
Mary and Ann literally fought two sets of ship soldiers for
about 10 to 15 minutes and eventually were captured.
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The whole crew was in, quickly taking to Port Royale, Jamaica.
Your titties are powerless at night.
We can fight, boys. We can win.
Yeah, they can see them. No, it was just funny because,
like, they're literally the onlyones like fighting.
And they're like, sitting there like, come on, you assholes.
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Like, come help us. And Rackham's like, no boys,
stay down low, stay down low. And then they're like the last
person that ran down there, like, Anne took her gun out and
shot at him as they're trying togo down the stairs because she
was like, what are you guys doing?
Like, we're all going to either die or get captured or also get
captured and then die. So like, we need to try to
fight. They're all down there putting
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on handcuffs like we're going totell them you took us prisoner.
Yeah, yeah. This was.
This must be the the kind of like motherly touch, like the
motherly warmth that the author was talking about, where it's
just like because honestly, thatmight be the most accurate
description of like a mom that Ican imagine, which is like at
any fucking moment that might get hardcore fucking brutal and
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scare the fuck out of everybody.And just like me, as a child, I
ran the blow deck, you know, I went and hid.
But yeah, but next week on my therapy, I wanted to discuss.
What's funny too, is that, like,they literally, they were
sitting there. And yeah, they knew they were in
a bad spot too. But one of the reasons they were
patrolling and making sure is because they had just released
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that woman, they'd just releasedDorothy Thomas.
And we're like. Like, well, what if she, like,
literally rose to a place, tellsthem that we're out here
stealing stuff and we're piratesand the people come get us.
They also knew that they had wanted posters everywhere, and
they were just thinking outside the box.
And Rackham was like, oh, no one's going to get us.
And then, yeah, it's. Because it's because nobody was
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looking for Rackham. And yeah, no one cared about
him. Nobody gave a fuck about him.
They actually had posters up where they're like, apparently
they stole this man and it's like oblivious, like.
Yeah, and they fought hard too, like 10 or 15 minutes with like
2. Fucking insane, yeah.
Two or two ship fulls of people attacking them.
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So like they have one. Like they had three ships at
this time, but they were on thisone ship getting drunk and you
know, out in the middle of nowhere.
So there was nothing really there to protect them.
They couldn't run. They were stuck.
And they're just like fighting to the death.
And you know, they're also like,I will say too, like the the
people, the pirate hunters are not trying to kill them.
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Obviously, they're trying to take them prisoner because they
get the reward, a bigger reward that way.
So, like, they're not, Obviouslyit will take longer to like if
they're like literally killing the, you know, Ann and Mary are
trying to kill everyone and people are not trying to kill
them, it might take a little bitmore time, but still, they
fought hard. Do that.
I got out of breath today, like carrying my empty like trash can
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up from the street and my mail at the same time.
I could not imagine going with like, you know, sabers and like
musket handguns and like chap titties.
Like I could not imagine this. I think they lost because they
didn't have their shirts open. That was the I got surprised.
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Damn it. Why was it laundry day?
Why didn't I wear my button numb?
Well, now all of them had been captured and it was time for the
trial. Ann and Mary were both pissed.
I mean, who wouldn't be? They were on the sea for only
two months or so, and both and both were around 23 to 25 years
old. They were in shackles again and
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had lost their freedom. Ratton lost his nerve, and Ann
and Mary were captured because of it.
Stupid rat. Literally screwed them over and
they were just like we have onlybeen on the sea for two months.
That is insane. Yeah, and they were so young.
Two months stint. But also is probably like rack
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'em like you. Who's cooked now?
Who's fucking who now? Yeah, motherfuckers.
I mean, kind of not, but we'll see.
The prisoners were being held inMiddlesex Prison, which was the
only Joe in Jamaica. On the 16th of November all of
the crew and Jack Rackham were said to go to court.
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The judges of the court were captains of the Royal Navy and
also the men who had originally put out the bounty for Rackham,
Ann and Mary Sir Nicholas laws. So basically they all had no
chance to get out of this and unfortunately for them.
They couldn't put on dresses like our friend Steve Bonnett
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and escape. Do you guys remember that he did
that too? Yeah.
His escape plan to get out of the jail first was him and two
other people put on dresses and ran through the streets.
It was like right before and he escaped for like 2 weeks I
think. And then they finally caught him
because his. Because he sent a a mail to the
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like a a note to the ship that was trying to pick them up and
they got caught. His like his mailman got caught
by them and they found him because he literally had the map
to them and he fucking signed it.
Yeah, and he signed it. He's like yo.
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Sincerely, Bob, AKA any voice inbrackets.
Steve Bonnett. Don't tell anybody, but this is
my exact location. I just invented longitude and
latitude. You can read it in my ebook over
here. Here's the exact coordinates
when you get there. Also, it's by the old Cherry
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Tree. Well, unluckily for them, they
were found guilty because they literally had no witnesses to
help them. Their verdict was you will go
back from whence you came, whichas we know means they will get
hanged. Until death.
They were hanging two days afterthe trial, but before that Rap
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went to Ansel to try and apologize for his cowardice.
The only thing that Ann told himwas, I am sorry to see you here,
but if he fought like a man, youwouldn't be hanging like a dog.
Boom. Wait, did they also just called
men dogs? No, I'm pretty sure they did.
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I guess so. She just meant she wouldn't.
He wouldn't, he wouldn't be hanging like, I don't know, I
guess they hung dogs in those days, which is completely
horrible, but I don't know. But she was basically just
saying like, you are awful. If you had fought and done as I
told you to do, we would have gotten out of this.
But you mean the guy who, like, literally, was too drunk to
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realize that there were ships closing in on them?
Yes, the guy who left maps repeatedly at every Tavern he
went to. The guy who dressed in every
color under the fucking rainbow.Yes, the guy whose name was
Calico. Yes, that makes this point.
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Yeah. On an interesting note, they
actually, you know that shoe store, I think it's called like
rack shoes or whatever that was actually named after him.
That makes a lot of sense. Also, they renamed the area
where he was hung Rackham Ski, because he was also a pretty
famous pirate in that area. And they finally found them.
But in another interesting note,pirates nooses were actually
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shorter than normal nooses. So yeah, yeah, it's crazy they
they didn't want their neck to break, which was the normal
noose. They wanted people to pretty
much die quicker. They didn't want their neck to
break. They just wanted them to dangle
there until they strangled to death.
And sometimes that would last upto an hour.
I think we had talked about thatin the last one too, is that
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they just, like would sit there for an hour, just like legs
shaking. And like sometimes people would
come up to their legs and like, hang on them so they died
quicker. Wow.
Damn. Yeah, that makes sense.
But I I will also say, like, baton them for not realizing that,
like, pirates are the most wily bunch in history.
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Like, you know, like pirates arenotorious for getting away.
And it's just like, we're going to make that execution as long
as fucking possible and make sure that it gets so boring.
The entire town leaves and goes drinks and we have a fun night
and we get all rock and say where'd they go in the morning.
Yeah, pretty much, yeah. They just, they want it to last
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a while. Yeah.
I mean it's just like nowadays they put really big commercial
breaks in the show and then theyreally want it to like draw out
the, I guess, draw out the show so it lasts longer.
That way they can make money andinsert commercial break here.
Just that's bad, that man. Those people that want you to do
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things and buy things. I tell you what, I'm convinced.
How about you, Joey? I am convinced.
OK anyways, well, 10 days later on the 28th of November, it was
time for Mary and Ann's trial. After their crimes were read to
them, they both pleaded not guilty.
Of course, the first witness that came forward was Dorothy.
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The same Dorothy Thomas that Annand Mary wanted to either leave
alone or kill to make sure she couldn't be a witness later.
Fuck yeah, Rachman. They were told you we should
have made her the godmother. Yeah.
They're like literally looking at her, just like thinking about
Rackham because he's already dead.
And they're just like, come on, you know?
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Yeah, fuck. We can never let him know.
He. Dorothy described Mary and Ann
as two women who wore men's jackets and long trousers and
handkerchiefs tied about their heads, and each of them had a
match of the end pistols in their hands.
And Kirsten swore at the men to murder the deponent, and they
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should kill her to come against them.
Yeah, they basically just wantedto murder her because they're
just like, please don't let her become a witness against us.
Yep, Yep. Basically, this was the smoking
gun that the court needed. I mean, not like they needed a
lot of evidence against them. This just really set the tie.
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Dylan, who was originally captured by the pirates,
described Ann and Mary as actualleaders of the pirate ship and
not just unwilling participants.We were all like, super scared.
He told the court that Mary and Ann but were handing out
gunpowder to the crew and directing them where to shoot,
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thus showing that they were leaders.
The judge asked Ann and Mary if they had any witnesses and they
announced they did not because, well, all of their friends were
in jail and any others that might come to their aid were
well dead. They did not cross examine the
other witnesses. Before they handed out the
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verdict, one of the judges askedMary, why did you venture into
piracy, knowing that the punishment is death?
Mary replied. As to hanging, it is no
hardship, for if not for that very cowardly fellow would turn
pirate and so infest disease, sothat men of courage must starve,
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that if it was put to the choiceof the pirates, they would not
have the punishment less than death.
What she means. Very poetic.
Yeah, she said. In a very poetic way, yeah.
What she means is just basicallylike the pirate punishments
should be very high because if it wasn't high, literally
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everyone would be pirates. She basically said thug life.
Yeah, literally. She's like, I'm cool to die.
No biggie. No biggie.
Yeah. And within a few minutes after
that, they were pronounced guilty.
And they were deemed to be hung until they were dead.
It's interesting to note here that in trial at this time, 50%
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of men were acquitted during trial and about 75% of women
were acquitted. So that means that the judicial
system has gotten more strict. Right.
Yeah. It's just the we'll read.
We'll read a little further, but.
Yeah, yeah. That just means that it used to
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be more more strict, more more punishy back in the day.
Another interesting note is thatthis time they were both married
and good. Feasible have been found not
guilty because they were under the direction of their husbands.
But a distinction here is that both Mary and Ann's husband were
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tried and murdered before their own trial.
Well, Ann and Mary both had tricks up their sleep.
They waited until after they gottheir execution decree.
They announced they were both pregnant.
Boom. And we're both the mother
fathers. Yeah, so what's what's horrible
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is like, you know, we, we all know that at this time women
were like thought of as property, you know, basically
that they were property. And so the idea behind what they
could have used was that. They, their husbands told them
that they had to go into being apirate because their husbands
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were also pirates. So they they could have just
said it wasn't on us. But what really helped them in
this or really hurt them is thatCaptain Thomas and and I think
Dorothy Thomas both said that they were actually leaders on
this ship and that could have been like the little bit of.
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Little bit of problem that that would have been thrown if they
said that their husbands made them do it.
Damn. I mean, I guess that makes sense
because like, you don't, unless it's going really fast.
Like the cop doesn't like write a ticket for like the Ferrari
that's speeding down the Expressway.
They read the ticket for the driver.
And if they're treating women like complete and utter, like
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property, then it's like, well, we're not going to issue the
ticket to the woman. It's the guy's fault, It's the
driver. But like they didn't know how
wrecked Rackman was. I'm going to be honest, that is
the best, most horrible description I have heard
truthfully about what how to describe this, because it's
horrible that they had to deal with that, and that's the truth.
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But that's the greatest description and metaphor of like
what they dealt with and what the what they were looked on as.
By men in the courts. Yeah, like they had to go really
fast before they got confiscated.
Exactly. And they did.
They literally did. This allowed them to have a stay
of execution, but often they wouldn't be executed at all.
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They both were about four monthspregnant, which means that they
got pregnant before they ever went on the high seas, sadly, in
April 1721. Mary fell ill.
She did not receive any medical care and developed typhus.
Typhus is basically an absence of nutrients.
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She died before her child was even born and was and was buried
on April 28th, 1721 and never had an execution date set and
never had a record of her death.There were several theories of
what happened to her. The first theory was by Laura
Cell Dumb Company and that the pirate Captain Roberts knock
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into her jail cell and rescue her.
Then Roberts revealed she was actually a woman and said we
women have to stick together, don't we?
Another theory I think is more believable is that her father
forgave her and pleaded with thejudges to release her into his
custody. William Cormack took her back
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home and raised her son, who wasnamed John.
She then took another husband named Joseph Burley and had
eight more children and died in 1782 at the age of 84.
Well, well, there was another theory by YouTuber.
He put forth the theory that Anne Bonnie's execution was
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stayed and she died in Jamaica on December 29, 1733, living out
the rest of her life there. Most of these I sorry, but why?
What do you mean? Why?
Like, why that? He came up with a theory.
Yeah, he came up with an incredibly specific theory.
It's like, you know, like execution was stayed.
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And then she died in Jamaica, December 29th, 1733.
Why? He did research, found records
of a I think it was in a. It was a Merry basically found
her name in the in the record oflike a burial thing.
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But most people aren't sure thatthat was actually her.
They just think that like he just thinks and he found that
out of it and he just thinks it was her.
It sounds pretty feasible too. I mean, either those last two
ones are feasible. Like her dad came and and
rescued her and was like, hey, like you know, knew that the
trial was happening, came in and.
And got her from jail because she was also pregnant and he was
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like I I want to still have my line you know and because he
didn't have any other kids so and his wife was dead so he was
just literally by himself so he wanted to save her but that's I
I do still think the dad might have might have come back and
and helped her promise not to try to set things on fire again
was this was this only like so so in total if you can go off
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the top of your head here whatever.
How long had she been pirating down on shit you know, at This?
Well, two months. Remember, they were on the seas
with Rackham for two months. They were on the seas with
Rackham for two months. But, and that's the that's
counting preseason. And no, there was actually more
from that and was six years on on the boat with James, about
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six years. That's what the author was
saying. She was about on five to six
years on the boat with James getting to Jamaica or getting to
Nassau. And then Anne was around going
through, I think she was on the boat first, then she went to the
land, went to war, got married, husband, died, got on another
boat, got taken by pirates, wentall the way down to the Nassau,
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and then they met there. So it was like this.
They had this whole story beforethey died at about 23 to 25,
which is crazy. Damn.
That's fucking damn. See.
Like the world was such a betterplace back when we still
believed in, like, you know, vengeance and revenge.
Revenge avenge me. Avenge.
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Literally. Yeah, like.
Like nobody has that drive or that like, you know, like nobody
has it anymore to like go out. And thank you.
That's what I've been saying of vengeance.
I know. I want someone to avenge me.
We need more vengeance. Yeah.
Thank you Black Cat Report is infull support of taking out an
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incredibly 1 sided like petty ass revenge on all enemies.
Yeah. You should, though I will say if
you're going to take revenge outon somebody, you can send us an
e-mail anonymously with what they did to you.
Even if they didn't do anything,what you think they did to you,
or maybe even if you don't even think they did anything, just
(57:36):
your revenge plot and how you'regonna take it out.
Please send it to contact at blackcat dot report and we might
read some of them on the air eventually.
I feel like that should go to our other e-mail which is
haters. True Black Cat dot Report had
that set up since the first day,but I do want to say even to add
further on to what Joey just said.
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Even if you just hate somebody so fucking much that you come up
with a narrative about what you wish they would have done to
justify the hatred you have fromplease, why are you seeking
revenge? Yes, yeah.
OK, hold on. I'm writing an e-mail to you
guys. Oh God, he's on that e-mail.
(58:16):
I'm not going to follow up with the titty pics comment that I
was going to say now that he's saying.
That continuing on. Anyways, hold on, we just got an
e-mail. Some fucking ass bitch.
She's interrupting me while I'm trying to read a script.
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That's terrible. Please seek revenge.
What a jerk. Most of these are sad endings
for some of the most fierce pirates on the high seas.
They still with the fame Jack Brackman or Calico Jack.
And honestly, will he have been held in such high regards
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without them? That's a great question.
No, He would not. He was Christ.
No. Yeah, honestly, I don't think
so. I think they had a huge effect
on how he was viewed and generally gave him the advice
and the strategies he needed to gain the general fame that he
reached. Mary and Ann both lived very
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short lives as they died between23 and 25 years old, which is
honestly sad for such awesome women.
It's crazy to think that Mary could have hit so long in the
British Army without being foundout, and then again on board the
merchant ship she sailed on. It is amazing that they both
bucked the trend of their gendernorms in this times as well.
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They literally looked at where they were in life and said screw
that and went another way. Mary and Ann did not set up
trying to inspire women after them.
They just wanted freedom to liveanother way, which is honestly a
choice they should have had. They just wanted freedom and do
not be trapped in a system that they held them only as one thing
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property. So their journeys, they become
more than just property. They became free.
And that's it for our episode onAnne Bunny and Mary Reid, pirate
Badasses of the High Seas. Thanks for listening to the
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Flags on the high seas were important, and mostly a way to
recognize who was who on the seas before he actually got on
board. One of the most famous flags was
that of Blackbeard's. His flag featured a horn
standing skeleton with a drink in one hand, raising his toast
to death, and a spear in the other.
Aimed into a heart dripping withblood, are Jack Rackham's and
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Bonnie and Mary Reed's flag. It was a bit simpler.
There was a human skull with twocutlasses crossing underneath
it, curling up around the skull.To me, I believe that the skull
is representing Calico Jack and the two cutlasses belonging to
Mary and Anne. Now just imagine on the high
seas and you see a flag raised on a ship that's chasing you,
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and it's the flag of two cutlasses and a skull.
The ship is much faster than youand most likely more well armed.
When they boarded, you were morethan likely.
If you're a woman, either turnedinto a sex slave, then killed or
immediately killed. If you were a man, you're
pressing the servitude on the pirate ship or auctioned off on
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the highest bidder nearby, localpirate dents.
You were doomed. I didn't see you there.
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We won't just be spouting articles.
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It's basically like one day you walk outside and you see that
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2. And Betsy that your host.
And with me is Gil. Hello, Hello.
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And Joey. Hello.
At the moment we now have Ann and Mary on the same ship.
Ann is in love with the pirate Captain Jack Bratton or as we
know him, Calico Jack, the well dressed pirate.
Unlike our friend Steve Bonnett,who was the gentleman pirate.
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So it's here we will talk about some of the pirate code that was
built by pirates and described by Charles Johnson in his book A
General History of Pirates Book.We are going to delve into this
because it's necessary to know the rules of the sea in between
pirates so we can understand thesignificance of these two female
pirates. Also because it's pretty damn
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cool that a group of. Almost lawless people can come
together and set up an awesome pirate cook that will honestly
predates a lot of the democracies we know today.
Real quick though I did want to say to like throw in here.
Excellent, excellent, excellent book called Anarchy works by
Peter Gelder Loose. You can find it online for free.
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It's actually really short. It's a anthropological, like
breakdown of different governmental systems throughout.
History and throughout differentlike cultures.
Basically before Europeans came in and killed folks and then
gave one person guns or gave oneperson weapons are like you're
king now. So it was like, hey, you know,
what were people doing before wewent around the world and tried
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to recreate like, you know, kingdoms and hierarchies.
But one of the things that he references, which actually
doesn't fit with what I just said, but it's still an
important part here, is anarchism working.
As a political ideology, and it's different than anarchy.
But anarchism is a political ideology working and developing
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in pirate ships specifically. And he goes into like fucking
like fascinating detail about like how essentially like.
Even though they're out like slaughtering people and like,
stealing people's shit, they were still super, super
progressive. Kind of like how some people
think the United States is superprogressive while we're out
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slaughtering people and killing people's shit.
Anyways, it's about the ideology.
Yeah, but but internally. Though.
Yeah, but but even in practice though, like the way that they
that they organized their shit and that they ran things.
It was fascinating. It was so, so, so progressive
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for its time. Like, I'm talking like 5-6,
seven hundred years, like into the future.
Progressive for its time, where it's like, it was normal for
folks who basically had like brown skin to be like ordering
people around that were on a ship where it was like filled
with like white English folks. And that was completely normal.
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And it was just based off of merit and it was based off of
respect. And this is also how you end up
with the situation where we havetwo ladies coming in as pirates
because it was just based off oflike, yo, who's going to get us
that loot? Who's going to make the good
decisions? Who's going to make the call
when the time is right and it surpassed, you know, the the the
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bias and the bigotry that was socommon at the time.
They were like, I don't give a fuck if she's a woman.
She gets me paid. Like and I'm going to have her
fucking back and like shit's fucking fascinating sorry side
tangent there. But seriously, it's an excellent
book and it's full of a lot of really great little like
stories. And you'll learn a lot of fun
history facts. Thank you for sharing that,
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girl. And to be fair, the UN banner
should just say that it's the thought that counts.
Yeah, that should be the new UN banners.
You're welcome. Steve Bonnett's flag.
It's the thought. That shit.
I'm bad at math. Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, now, thank you. Thank you for sharing that girl.
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Yeah, I have some quotes pulled up if you want.
Yeah, I'm just. Kidding.
We can go into that. We can go into the pirate codes
first. That would be.
Cool. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, all right, first rule in the Pirate Code.
Every man has a vote in the affairsive moment.
Has equal title to the fresh provisions or strong liquors at
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anytime cease and may use them at pleasure, unless a scarcity
makes it necessary for the good of all to vote a retrenchment.
All right, Captain, we're getting closed out of spirits.
Wash buckles. Hey, hey, my man, you know.
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You know why? You're my first mate.
You know, because of that time in Kabul with the jet ski, Yeah.
What? What?
Nothing. Nothing.
So. So I was thinking, I was
thinking I was up late last night, I was swimming around and
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now there's nowhere to swim. And I was thinking, a vote for
what? Retreatment.
For for, you know, the thing where we vote on the thing.
Yeah. Retrenchment.
Retrenchment, yeah? Looking at me like that, but I
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didn't drink it all and that's not why we're out of liquor
right now. But anyways, so so I was
thinking about the vote for retrenment.
So as the boys don't know what they don't know, you know what?
What? What?
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Anyways, I think it's time we renamed the ship.
We should we should name it something cool.
Though this time, don't say revenge.
Don't say revenge, Don't say. Revenge that it was already
named when I got here, and it's just kind of like stepping in as
like a little manager when like there's already a crew and they
already know each other and theydon't invite me out bowling on
weekends and I was thinking the Pixie Savage.
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Okay, okay, okay. I'll go get out of that.
That wasn't even my first bet. I was just warming up.
I was just warming. I was getting you ready for the
real one. I was thinking the frightened
fairies. No.
Yeah, yeah, you're right. The ooh, I got it.
I got it. The revenge.
And that's what it'll be. Revenge for whatever Ghost took
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our booze last night around 3:00AM.
Well anyways, second rule is every meant to be called fairly
in turn by list on board of prices.
Because they were on these locations allowed a shift of
clothes, but if they degraded the company of the value of a
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dollar in play, jewels or money,ruining was their punishment if
the robbery was only betwixt oneanother.
They contented themselves with slitting the ears and nose of
him that was guilty, and set himon shore, not in an unhabited
place, but somewhere where he was sure to encounter hardships.
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You know, they call me Calico Jack, but to be quite fucking
honest, I'm colorblind. I'm fucking colorblind.
Like, why do you think it took me so long to make that goddamn
flag? Okay, Everybody's making fun of
the flag. This thing is in black and
white. I'm fucking color blinded, you
know? I didn't know that the last, the
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last ship, the last hull that wecalled it was a goddamn clown
ship. So now they're calling me Calico
Jack. But anyways, it's a yard.
I might not be able to see colors, but it's a damn good
thing the crew can't read The Revenge.
Third rule is no person to game cards or dies for money.
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Fourth rule, the lights and candles to be put out at 8:00 at
night. If any of the crew after that
hour still remain inclined for drinking, they were to do it on
the open deck. Yeah, our boys get out the grog.
It's time to head to the deck. Let's get drunk and look at the
stars. I keep trying to tell it they
sleep is important. 5th rule is to keep their peace.
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Pistols and cutlass clean and fit for service.
This one makes sense, right? Got to always be ready for
battle to get your booty six. Rule is to desert the ship or
their quarters in battle was punished with the death or
marine. To the death, boys.
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Or if you don't, I'll kill you. Or well, I guess I'll.
Pay you, but just be you'll justbe dead to me.
But I won't invite you to the Tea Party.
That's what I'm trying to say. Seven rule is no striking one
another on board, but every men squirrels to be ended on shore
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it's sore and pistol. Eighth rule is no men to talk of
breaking up their way of living till each other has shared £1000
if in order to do this any men should lose a limb.
Or become a cripple in their service.
He was to have $800 out of the public stop and for Lesser
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Hertz, proportionately. Real quick on that.
That was a huge thing and that eventually transferred into
what? God, this doesn't help the the
pro union movement, but that eventually transferred into like
unions, like workers unions. Where people would get
compensation for like getting injured on the job and it was
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seen as like a collective responsibility in the workforce.
Like if you were a coal miner and you know one of your
comrades or whatever got injured, then like you
automatically got pay. You got like a pension, you got
you got a cut, like a disabilitycut.
Or like, you know, if you died then like your family would.
But that shit's fucking cool, dude.
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I mean, I know you said that. Like it.
It wouldn't help pro unions, butI think honestly, if they
weren't named unions but pirates, more people would join
the actual unions. There would be unions
everywhere. Yeah, like nobody would complain
about dues. They'd be like, I mean, I have
to pay them. They're fucking pirates.
They will kill me will. Fucking kill me, I Captain.
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One of our crew lost all his limbs.
I E which one was that limbless Joe again?
No, it was jumping Jack, sad to say.
God damn it, he could jump so high.
Yar. He was one of the best
basketball players we had. How are we going to beat the
Globetrotters now? OK, well the ninth rule is the
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captain and the quartermaster toreceive 2 shares of the prize.
The master, both Swain and Gunner one share and a half, and
other officers one in four. What?
The hell does that mean That means their percentage of the
share? That's all that that means.
But the God damn. 10th rule is the musicians do have rests on
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the Sabbath day, but the other six days and nights none without
special favor. Whoa, watch out, musicians.
Yeah, right, Sir. It's the Sabbath day.
The band is taking a rest. You are correct.
It is the Sabbath day. I am Iron Man, Sir.
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It's their rest day. They they don't play today.
No, no, it's it's it's Black Sabbath day.
Why? Why did I put on All Black and
bite the head off a bat? Why?
Who put this on my calendar? I really don't know, Captain.
I really, really, really don't know.
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Revenge. Oh my God.
Well, the last rule, and the most pertinent rule for Ann and
Mary is no boy or woman to be allowed amongst them if any men
were to be found seducing any ofthe later sex and carry her to
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sea. Disguise.
He was to suffer death. This is interesting today
because at this moment neither Mary nor Anne were disguised,
but they were put on board by Captain Ratton, which I suppose
a lot of the times the captain can bend the rules.
Well, at least a little bit. And since he was a good captain,
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he wouldn't be. Meet me.
One of the folk tales that was told is that.
Women were bad luck and ships kind of like blackheads.
Well, this was started by a legend in the Roman times of
sirens luring Roman men and ships to their doom.
This slowly, over time grew intothe legend that women were bad
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luck. Well, this couldn't be further
from the truth. As most women were diligent
workers and as the author states, provided A motherly
touch to the shit. How absolutely progressive.
Although I will say the author'swords, I know, I know.
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I will say that looking back on queer history, being a sailor.
Has always been like the go to career for folks that want to be
more out with like being queer, being gay.
Like it just it always has been.It straight up always has been.
And I can't look at this and just be like like even the
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legend of like Sirens was like, Oh my God, it's a lady.
She's trying to get us over there.
Run like it's just like no, Jeff, don't do it.
But she's really cute and she said she could save me money on
my cart. Jeff, don't do it.
You know, like, like naval work has always, always, always been
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a part of queer history. Like it always has been.
And this kind of fits especiallylike back in the Roman times or
even like in the Greek times. Like, I don't know.
And and I will say there is the technicality for Calico.
Mary and Ann weren't disguised. They literally just walked up as
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themselves. So it's like, Yar, we can't do
anything. They're not wearing a fake
mustache, you know? Like, yeah, yeah, they can't do
anything about it, but yeah. They're just like, why are you
so obsessed with me? Yeah, the ladies are here.
We're supposed to act straight again.
God damn it. Well, let's get back to the
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story. Ann and Mary are on Jack
Brackman's shit. They are both pirates.
At the moment, there's so back and forth between whether Ann
and Mary were in a relationship or not.
But what is known is that they were very, very, very good
friends with the governor on their tail.
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They decided to head to Jamaica.Yeah, so cruel.
Hell yeah. Oh my God, I hope that there's
really cute old timey photos of them with their hair braided.
Yeah. Yeah, like, like everybody who
grew up in the 90s and went to the Caribbean at some point had
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done, but now I was afraid to have published on the Internet.
I had them every time I went to the beach I was.
Ha ha. Fuck you.
No shame. My family was too poor to go to
the Caribbean, so I don't have those.
I mean, this was in Mexico, so. My family was too poor to go to
Mexico, so I don't have those photos.
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The only place we went was Canada, which back when I was a
kid, you could I I'm pretty sureI was like the 10th richest
person in Canada when I went like, wow, money was nothing
back then. God, the good old days.
Back when a Canuck was a Canuck and Maple syrup float free
anyways. Anyways, well, going to Jamaica
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was a good choice as it was richand sugar and a haven for
pirates. As you can see in Pirates of the
Caribbean, they had a lot of funthere.
During this time patrols were ramped up due to increased
piracy and also the growing government being set up in the
area. Rackham had a small and fast
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ship, which we know from our State Bonnet series was the
Sloop, the Sloop, Sloop, baby. Sloop, baby.
They set out for the northern harbors of Jamaica and robbed a
few small ships. They didn't get much, and the
crew started getting a little fidgety.
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Mary stepped up to the plate andadvised Rackham that it was time
to lie low for a bit until a fewbigger ships came by with better
treasure. Strategy worked.
They lied low. And will hide in the boat until
fishing ships will get closer, and then before they knew it,
they would pop up and then raid an attack.
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That's a great idea. Yeah, it's a great idea.
She's using her military skills that she learned while she was
in England and in Belgium I. Think in it.
Yep, Netherland. A lot of the fishing ships and
non warships did not have enoughweapons for soldiers to repel
the invaders. Most of the time they would
surrender without a shot fire, which was the preference of the
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pirates. Mary used her, yes, you said
Mary used her military training with the British during the
Grand Alliance War and the War of Spanish Succession to her
advantage. She was usually the one leading
the charge on boarding the otherships and was fierce in battle.
At this time, Anne was not yet trained, so Mary decided she
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wanted to train in in battle. One of their biggest weapons,
says the author, is Sir Cross Dressing.
Yeah, it's what is he a fucking pundit for, like, 2023 Fox News?
Like drag Queens are the biggestthreat to society.
Don't look at climate change. Don't look at the nuclear arms
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race. Don't look at the home like drag
Queens reading children's books under complete supervision with
27 cameras. They're trying to turn your
kids. Yeah, but there's nothing wrong
with being gay. But they're trying to turn them
gay, so you should be afraid. During the normal days they will
wear what is traditionally women's clothes, and on battle
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days they will wear what is traditionally men clothes, with
one caveat. They would, and I quote from the
author, terrify their enemies with their breasts.
Wow, titties. This.
Pretty much. They were just like titties and.
Guns, This is exactly what I wassaying earlier.
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It's always been a safe haven for queer folks.
They're just like titties. No, no.
I'm blind, Steve. I'm blind.
I'm. Blind Steve.
Steve Oh my God, it should be intro to that titty song.
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Titties, titties. I have no clue what you're
talking about. It's a song.
It's a song. Yeah, it's a titty song.
I know I just top. 10 on the Billboard had 100.
Is it? No.
I don't know. If it was.
I was just making that up. That probably could have been, I
don't know. Hold on, Can we pause the show?
I'm looking up a titty song. Oh God, Why don't I go to Google
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Images? Oh my.
God. It's it.
Did it auto corrected to titty's?
Thongs I'm gonna need about 5 to10 seconds.
You guys, hold on. Oh my God.
Believe. It And we're back.
Well, this crew was very sneaky in how they did things.
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I'm like Black Bear using his might.
Bracken didn't have the fleet ofships so they will have to be
sneaky and how they took ships. They sell into Espanola and
befriended a few French fishermen.
They traded with them and then invited them onto their boat for
drinks and dinner. Well they then overpowered the
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fishermen and forced them into their crew and took their
supplies. So they basically took their
supplies back. Now it was time to head back out
onto the ocean. They did.
Some pirate shit, yeah. Yeah, literally.
Just to do pirate shit. Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, I'm like that's that wasn't it.
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I feel like that was like a morecomplicated and this was on the
author I'm sure, but it was likea more complicated breakdown of
Then they did this and they tookthis from these people and it's
like. They They were pirates.
That's what they did all day, isn't it?
Yeah, but it's like, yeah, but it's cool that it's cool that
they like instead of just like getting on their ship, taking
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their stuff and just being like,all right, cool, come on There.
They basically were like, Oh no,let's go get drunk and and eat
together. And then instead of yeah.
So like instead of just taking all their stuff and just being
like, whatever, it's fine, they like went on their ship and met
them. Ate with him, got drunk with
him. And then we're like, now it's
time to take your stuff that we just traded for because we
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traded you stuff. And then they just.
I'm not going. To they just took their supplies
back. I'm not going to lie.
I snuck in earlier and stole a piece of pie off the window sill
of the ship and I tasted it. I realized that it was beyond
currency. It was beyond wealth and.
I just didn't feel right coming in here and taking your shit.
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Knowing that that pie was there.I would need to eat some.
And so I had to come in and takeeven more from you.
I had to take your trust so as Icould take some pie, and now
that the pie is gone, give me your shit.
Yeah, literally all of it. Damn, that's cold.
If I was a pirate, I would just steal food.
I learned this one from the Pilgrims when on the first
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Thanksgiving. Right afterwards, they murdered
them. Alright, well, they headed back
to Aruba, Jamaica. Ooh, I wanna.
See you. Yeah, that's where I wanna.
Go. Wait, what?
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Sorry. Go back in Jamaica.
They headed back to Jamaica. At this time Ann's fighting was
equal to that of Mary. Now words started spreading
around of Bracken and two femalepirates, which I do believe that
Ann and Mary start was starting to burn brighter than Bracken
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right now. Well now we will bring back into
the story our old cuckold husband James.
Bonnie. James was given a ship and they
marked to go after Ann and Mary.Well, it didn't last long as
James, chasing a pirate ship, was hit by a storm and his ship
stink and everyone on board died.
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He's worse than Steve Vodit. No, but he was just average.
Yeah, I know he was average until this moment.
I mean, to be fair, he couldn't help that he got hit by a storm
because they happen all the timein the Bahamas, in that, you
know, that area. I think he just kind of got
unlucky. But he wasn't even chasing their
pirate ship. He was chasing Charles Vane.
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He he was chasing another one. So he didn't know it was not, he
didn't know it was not Jack Rackham ship.
But he, you know earlier we talked about that James Bonnie
took up pretty much became like the other side of and of Anne
because he was like, I'm going to start chasing at the pirate
ships and she's like, I'm going to go be on a pirate ship.
And so he, he just kind of, you know, became the other side of
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it. And you know, they kind of had,
you know, they parted ways alongthe way obviously because.
But as we find out, I mean, theywere both still married.
They never really got rid of their married, you know, so it
was very so now they're really married I.
Mean now they're really not married anymore.
Cuz he's dead. Yeah, cuz so now she's a widow.
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Yep. Hell yeah.
Makes her look cooler. Damn, she did get cooler.
I'm sure she got like a little bit of like, Gray hair, but like
just in a streak in the front. You know what I'm saying?
Like next to her widow's peak. And it was like, but like I will
say, the only way he could go full Steed Bonnet, right?
If he's going to go full steed bonnet is if he got caught in a
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storm and a ship sank as it was like stuck on land, then that
would have been a Steed Bonnet. Movies like We're Sinking
Captain. How we're stuck on a sand barn,
I don't know. It's 15.
People have already died. And your favorite goat, No.
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And then he survives and he's the only survivor.
Nice. That's that would have been a
steed bonnet just getting caughtin a storm.
Hey, that happens to the best ofthem, you know.
Yeah, I guess we can call that you've been steeded.
Yeah, funny. I love it.
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Oh, Steed. Oh, Steve, I miss you.
Mary and Ann both created a strategy, basically to surprise
merchant ships. They jumped on board with
flowing hair and shirts open. Hell yes, Tit is.
Tit is. Everywhere this plan they took
on the vision of sirens and the merchants pretty much
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immediately surrender. I wonder why does.
That mean they started singing. I.
Sirens are supposed to have the siren song.
They're supposed to like lure folks into the rocks and have
them crash. And then if you get into the
real dark stories and they eat them because mermaids used to be
really fucking evil back. Yeah, they used to be.
I don't think they sang. I think they just yelled things
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and like pretty much overwhelm this.
Yeah, you know I can't stand concentric circles.
No. And they were always the first
ones on board, too. So like, that was the crazy
thing is like, not. The other Pirates wouldn't even
have to go on board. They pretty much just went on
board. And they were just like we're
take it, we're good. 2 ladies, Yeah.
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Four boobs? Yeah, one Fine.
Like, it's terrible to make thisabout like gender, but the fact
that part of their, like, a key part of their strategy was just
like getting drunk and flashing other ships.
Like, definitely fits in. Yeah, they were living their
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best life. It seems like they were taking a
long vacation in Mardi Gras. They could have taken over
entire countries if they would have like, flashed their Hoo.
Ha, like, I'm just saying if theBeaver would have came out, Oh
my God, no. That Jamaica would be different.
Cuba would be different. Like it would everything would
have been changed. At least the.
Course of history would have been changed if they would have
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flashed their Beaver. Well, if they were in the New
England colonies at that old time, they probably would have
been burned at the stake, but you know.
Well, I mean, yeah, different times.
Slight breeze would have revealed their ankle and like
everything would have caught on fire.
Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, this is so.
This is too much. Mary and Ann were both fierce in
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battle and unknowledgeable in strategy.
Brackton high on his horse afterwinning a few battles, I was
thinking he was untouchable. Well, the pride comes before the
fault, right? As they were sailing around the
island of Jamaica, they found a canoe with one woman in it.
Her name was Dorothy Thomas Ann and Mary advised Ragman to leave
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her alone and just move on. After all, it was just one
person and there was no reason for it.
Ragman, nor Ann and Mary's advice and capture her and
robbed her canoe. I'm still tough.
I can still do things. I'm still cool.
I'm a pirate. I'm a pirate.
Look at my chest. Look at my chest.
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He tried to do what they did. He jumped on board with this
shirt open and Dorothy was just like, what are you doing?
You're going to want to put somecoconut oil on that hunt down.
My nipples are so chapped. How do you keep them out so
much? Yeah, the salt water in the air
really gets too. It's like this is really hard.
She like slinks back to the shipand and Mary then advice.
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Well, we shouldn't allow her to leave and we should kill her
again. Ignore them and let her go.
I think we should give her. Money, I think.
I think we should give her a 401K.
I godmother, godmother, my future children.
That's what I think we should do, cuz I'm captain.
I still make decisions. Everyone listens to me.
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Kind of go, Jack. They then attacked another
merchant ship not too long aftercalled the Mary and Sarah.
They took hostage Captain Dylan,the captain of the ship Rackham.
Ann and Mary now had command of three ships.
They were building their fleet at this time.
Rackham decided it was time to chase and take any ship that
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came within range. This was his.
On doing another governor named Sir Nicholas Laws put on that
bounty on Rackham and Mary. Hold on.
His name is Nicholas Laws. His last name is literally laws.
He was born to be a governor or judge.
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Sir was actually technically hisfirst name.
Eventually he'd be known as Sir Sir Nicholas Laws, but yeah.
Just like Captain Dylan, his first name was Captain.
Damn, I feel like he was just born onto a pile of Manila
envelopes. That guy had to have been a
fucking riot at parties. Holy shit with.
With one of those old white wigson, he was born with that as it
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came out of his mom. What that cool this is?
Natural and the little gavel. Ding Ding He hired a former
pirate named Gene Bon Doby. Bon Jovi.
It's it's. I was going.
To say hire John Bon Jovi, it's it's salt waters tightening my
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pants. I just damn it.
Because I'm a pirate on a woodenship.
I ride and I want it. Want it?
We're halfway. There, God, Captain, we'll stop
singing this song. We're not halfway there.
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It's my life and it's the worst fucking ship to be on.
Oh my God. The Jon Bon Jovi Jovi ship What?
The fuck. And you know, it would be named.
It would be named the Jon Bon Jovi too.
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I'm a caramel steel Brad wanted to get.
It it's it's Jean Bondeve. Jean Bondeve French.
He hired a former pirate named Jean Bondeve.
Bondeve knew places that they would use and he caught up with
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them on the coast of Jamaica. Bracken chased Bond Bay off due
to Bond Bay not being ready for battle it.
Didn't make any sense because heliterally saw them and was like,
cool, I'm going in there. And Bracken was like fucking
fire at him. And so they literally just
started firing at him because Rackham was like, I don't know
this guy. And so they just shot him and
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shot at him. Bonding was like, Oh no, he
pulled the steed bond and he just wasn't ready and was like,
oh God, now we got to go. And so he just ran from the
battle, and they're all just like.
OK, that was easy. Goodbye to you.
This is the story of my life. Yeah.
Yeah. Pont Bay retreated back to
Jamaica and then ran into another pirate hunter named
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Captain Jonathan Barnett. He was pretty famous at the time
for hunting down pirate ships. He studied and used spies to
find out where pirates were hiding out.
So Captain Barnett decided he wanted to go after Rackham
almost immediately. After a few weeks he found out
through his spies that Rachman, Ann and Mary were in Negril's
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Bay off the coast in Jamaica. Barnett and Bond Base sailed to
meet them. It was at this time that Rachman
and crew were pretty much drunk of celebrating their most recent
win and almost setting out in the open, ripe for attack.
With most of the crew drunk and Rachman himself unable to stand,
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Ann and Mary stood watch. They had six sense, or rather,
they were intelligent and knew they were pirate hunters out for
them. And they were sitting ducks.
Did you all not notice all of the posters in town?
Like, like all of the they have our full legal names.
They have like half of our biographies written down,
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descriptions of our locations. And goddamn it, Rachman, every
fucking time we stop at a port, you just have to leave the map,
don't you? Of where we're going.
What happens if something bad happens?
What happens if something bad isKnow where we are?
God damn it. Barnett and Bombay waited until
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nightfall smartly, thinking the pirates were wasted and wouldn't
be able to fight back. Two hours after nightfall, they
moved into position. It's gonna be a With most of the
pirates drunk, it was left up tomarry Anne and Rackman.
Once the first cannonball hit the ship, Brackman froze and
lost his result. Mary and Ann took control after
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rack and told the pirates to go high under the deck as the
sailors were running into the hole.
Mary yelled at them. If there's some men among you,
you'll come up and fight like the men you are to be.
Mary and Ann literally fought two sets of ship soldiers for
about 10 to 15 minutes and eventually were captured.
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The whole crew was in, quickly taking to Port Royale, Jamaica.
Your titties are powerless at night.
We can fight, boys. We can win.
Yeah, they can see them. No, it was just funny because,
like, they're literally the onlyones like fighting.
And they're like, sitting there like, come on, you assholes.
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Like, come help us. And Rackham's like, no boys,
stay down low, stay down low. And then they're like the last
person that ran down there, like, Anne took her gun out and
shot at him as they're trying togo down the stairs because she
was like, what are you guys doing?
Like, we're all going to either die or get captured or also get
captured and then die. So like, we need to try to
fight. They're all down there putting
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on handcuffs like we're going totell them you took us prisoner.
Yeah, yeah. This was.
This must be the the kind of like motherly touch, like the
motherly warmth that the author was talking about, where it's
just like because honestly, thatmight be the most accurate
description of like a mom that Ican imagine, which is like at
any fucking moment that might get hardcore fucking brutal and
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scare the fuck out of everybody.And just like me, as a child, I
ran the blow deck, you know, I went and hid.
But yeah, but next week on my therapy, I wanted to discuss.
What's funny too, is that, like,they literally, they were
sitting there. And yeah, they knew they were in
a bad spot too. But one of the reasons they were
patrolling and making sure is because they had just released
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that woman, they'd just releasedDorothy Thomas.
And we're like. Like, well, what if she, like,
literally rose to a place, tellsthem that we're out here
stealing stuff and we're piratesand the people come get us.
They also knew that they had wanted posters everywhere, and
they were just thinking outside the box.
And Rackham was like, oh, no one's going to get us.
And then, yeah, it's. Because it's because nobody was
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looking for Rackham. And yeah, no one cared about
him. Nobody gave a fuck about him.
They actually had posters up where they're like, apparently
they stole this man and it's like oblivious, like.
Yeah, and they fought hard too, like 10 or 15 minutes with like
2. Fucking insane, yeah.
Two or two ship fulls of people attacking them.
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So like they have one. Like they had three ships at
this time, but they were on thisone ship getting drunk and you
know, out in the middle of nowhere.
So there was nothing really there to protect them.
They couldn't run. They were stuck.
And they're just like fighting to the death.
And you know, they're also like,I will say too, like the the
people, the pirate hunters are not trying to kill them.
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Obviously, they're trying to take them prisoner because they
get the reward, a bigger reward that way.
So, like, they're not, Obviouslyit will take longer to like if
they're like literally killing the, you know, Ann and Mary are
trying to kill everyone and people are not trying to kill
them, it might take a little bitmore time, but still, they
fought hard. Do that.
I got out of breath today, like carrying my empty like trash can
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up from the street and my mail at the same time.
I could not imagine going with like, you know, sabers and like
musket handguns and like chap titties.
Like I could not imagine this. I think they lost because they
didn't have their shirts open. That was the I got surprised.
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Damn it. Why was it laundry day?
Why didn't I wear my button numb?
Well, now all of them had been captured and it was time for the
trial. Ann and Mary were both pissed.
I mean, who wouldn't be? They were on the sea for only
two months or so, and both and both were around 23 to 25 years
old. They were in shackles again and
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had lost their freedom. Ratton lost his nerve, and Ann
and Mary were captured because of it.
Stupid rat. Literally screwed them over and
they were just like we have onlybeen on the sea for two months.
That is insane. Yeah, and they were so young.
Two months stint. But also is probably like rack
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'em like you. Who's cooked now?
Who's fucking who now? Yeah, motherfuckers.
I mean, kind of not, but we'll see.
The prisoners were being held inMiddlesex Prison, which was the
only Joe in Jamaica. On the 16th of November all of
the crew and Jack Rackham were said to go to court.
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The judges of the court were captains of the Royal Navy and
also the men who had originally put out the bounty for Rackham,
Ann and Mary Sir Nicholas laws. So basically they all had no
chance to get out of this and unfortunately for them.
They couldn't put on dresses like our friend Steve Bonnett
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and escape. Do you guys remember that he did
that too? Yeah.
His escape plan to get out of the jail first was him and two
other people put on dresses and ran through the streets.
It was like right before and he escaped for like 2 weeks I
think. And then they finally caught him
because his. Because he sent a a mail to the
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like a a note to the ship that was trying to pick them up and
they got caught. His like his mailman got caught
by them and they found him because he literally had the map
to them and he fucking signed it.
Yeah, and he signed it. He's like yo.
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Sincerely, Bob, AKA any voice inbrackets.
Steve Bonnett. Don't tell anybody, but this is
my exact location. I just invented longitude and
latitude. You can read it in my ebook over
here. Here's the exact coordinates
when you get there. Also, it's by the old Cherry
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Tree. Well, unluckily for them, they
were found guilty because they literally had no witnesses to
help them. Their verdict was you will go
back from whence you came, whichas we know means they will get
hanged. Until death.
They were hanging two days afterthe trial, but before that Rap
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went to Ansel to try and apologize for his cowardice.
The only thing that Ann told himwas, I am sorry to see you here,
but if he fought like a man, youwouldn't be hanging like a dog.
Boom. Wait, did they also just called
men dogs? No, I'm pretty sure they did.
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I guess so. She just meant she wouldn't.
He wouldn't, he wouldn't be hanging like, I don't know, I
guess they hung dogs in those days, which is completely
horrible, but I don't know. But she was basically just
saying like, you are awful. If you had fought and done as I
told you to do, we would have gotten out of this.
But you mean the guy who, like, literally, was too drunk to
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realize that there were ships closing in on them?
Yes, the guy who left maps repeatedly at every Tavern he
went to. The guy who dressed in every
color under the fucking rainbow.Yes, the guy whose name was
Calico. Yes, that makes this point.
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Yeah. On an interesting note, they
actually, you know that shoe store, I think it's called like
rack shoes or whatever that was actually named after him.
That makes a lot of sense. Also, they renamed the area
where he was hung Rackham Ski, because he was also a pretty
famous pirate in that area. And they finally found them.
But in another interesting note,pirates nooses were actually
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shorter than normal nooses. So yeah, yeah, it's crazy they
they didn't want their neck to break, which was the normal
noose. They wanted people to pretty
much die quicker. They didn't want their neck to
break. They just wanted them to dangle
there until they strangled to death.
And sometimes that would last upto an hour.
I think we had talked about thatin the last one too, is that
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they just, like would sit there for an hour, just like legs
shaking. And like sometimes people would
come up to their legs and like, hang on them so they died
quicker. Wow.
Damn. Yeah, that makes sense.
But I I will also say, like, baton them for not realizing that,
like, pirates are the most wily bunch in history.
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Like, you know, like pirates arenotorious for getting away.
And it's just like, we're going to make that execution as long
as fucking possible and make sure that it gets so boring.
The entire town leaves and goes drinks and we have a fun night
and we get all rock and say where'd they go in the morning.
Yeah, pretty much, yeah. They just, they want it to last
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a while. Yeah.
I mean it's just like nowadays they put really big commercial
breaks in the show and then theyreally want it to like draw out
the, I guess, draw out the show so it lasts longer.
That way they can make money andinsert commercial break here.
Just that's bad, that man. Those people that want you to do
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things and buy things. I tell you what, I'm convinced.
How about you, Joey? I am convinced.
OK anyways, well, 10 days later on the 28th of November, it was
time for Mary and Ann's trial. After their crimes were read to
them, they both pleaded not guilty.
Of course, the first witness that came forward was Dorothy.
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The same Dorothy Thomas that Annand Mary wanted to either leave
alone or kill to make sure she couldn't be a witness later.
Fuck yeah, Rachman. They were told you we should
have made her the godmother. Yeah.
They're like literally looking at her, just like thinking about
Rackham because he's already dead.
And they're just like, come on, you know?
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Yeah, fuck. We can never let him know.
He. Dorothy described Mary and Ann
as two women who wore men's jackets and long trousers and
handkerchiefs tied about their heads, and each of them had a
match of the end pistols in their hands.
And Kirsten swore at the men to murder the deponent, and they
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should kill her to come against them.
Yeah, they basically just wantedto murder her because they're
just like, please don't let her become a witness against us.
Yep, Yep. Basically, this was the smoking
gun that the court needed. I mean, not like they needed a
lot of evidence against them. This just really set the tie.
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Dylan, who was originally captured by the pirates,
described Ann and Mary as actualleaders of the pirate ship and
not just unwilling participants.We were all like, super scared.
He told the court that Mary and Ann but were handing out
gunpowder to the crew and directing them where to shoot,
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thus showing that they were leaders.
The judge asked Ann and Mary if they had any witnesses and they
announced they did not because, well, all of their friends were
in jail and any others that might come to their aid were
well dead. They did not cross examine the
other witnesses. Before they handed out the
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verdict, one of the judges askedMary, why did you venture into
piracy, knowing that the punishment is death?
Mary replied. As to hanging, it is no
hardship, for if not for that very cowardly fellow would turn
pirate and so infest disease, sothat men of courage must starve,
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that if it was put to the choiceof the pirates, they would not
have the punishment less than death.
What she means. Very poetic.
Yeah, she said. In a very poetic way, yeah.
What she means is just basicallylike the pirate punishments
should be very high because if it wasn't high, literally
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everyone would be pirates. She basically said thug life.
Yeah, literally. She's like, I'm cool to die.
No biggie. No biggie.
Yeah. And within a few minutes after
that, they were pronounced guilty.
And they were deemed to be hung until they were dead.
It's interesting to note here that in trial at this time, 50%
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of men were acquitted during trial and about 75% of women
were acquitted. So that means that the judicial
system has gotten more strict. Right.
Yeah. It's just the we'll read.
We'll read a little further, but.
Yeah, yeah. That just means that it used to
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be more more strict, more more punishy back in the day.
Another interesting note is thatthis time they were both married
and good. Feasible have been found not
guilty because they were under the direction of their husbands.
But a distinction here is that both Mary and Ann's husband were
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tried and murdered before their own trial.
Well, Ann and Mary both had tricks up their sleep.
They waited until after they gottheir execution decree.
They announced they were both pregnant.
Boom. And we're both the mother
fathers. Yeah, so what's what's horrible
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is like, you know, we, we all know that at this time women
were like thought of as property, you know, basically
that they were property. And so the idea behind what they
could have used was that. They, their husbands told them
that they had to go into being apirate because their husbands
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were also pirates. So they they could have just
said it wasn't on us. But what really helped them in
this or really hurt them is thatCaptain Thomas and and I think
Dorothy Thomas both said that they were actually leaders on
this ship and that could have been like the little bit of.
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Little bit of problem that that would have been thrown if they
said that their husbands made them do it.
Damn. I mean, I guess that makes sense
because like, you don't, unless it's going really fast.
Like the cop doesn't like write a ticket for like the Ferrari
that's speeding down the Expressway.
They read the ticket for the driver.
And if they're treating women like complete and utter, like
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property, then it's like, well, we're not going to issue the
ticket to the woman. It's the guy's fault, It's the
driver. But like they didn't know how
wrecked Rackman was. I'm going to be honest, that is
the best, most horrible description I have heard
truthfully about what how to describe this, because it's
horrible that they had to deal with that, and that's the truth.
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But that's the greatest description and metaphor of like
what they dealt with and what the what they were looked on as.
By men in the courts. Yeah, like they had to go really
fast before they got confiscated.
Exactly. And they did.
They literally did. This allowed them to have a stay
of execution, but often they wouldn't be executed at all.
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They both were about four monthspregnant, which means that they
got pregnant before they ever went on the high seas, sadly, in
April 1721. Mary fell ill.
She did not receive any medical care and developed typhus.
Typhus is basically an absence of nutrients.
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She died before her child was even born and was and was buried
on April 28th, 1721 and never had an execution date set and
never had a record of her death.There were several theories of
what happened to her. The first theory was by Laura
Cell Dumb Company and that the pirate Captain Roberts knock
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into her jail cell and rescue her.
Then Roberts revealed she was actually a woman and said we
women have to stick together, don't we?
Another theory I think is more believable is that her father
forgave her and pleaded with thejudges to release her into his
custody. William Cormack took her back
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home and raised her son, who wasnamed John.
She then took another husband named Joseph Burley and had
eight more children and died in 1782 at the age of 84.
Well, well, there was another theory by YouTuber.
He put forth the theory that Anne Bonnie's execution was
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stayed and she died in Jamaica on December 29, 1733, living out
the rest of her life there. Most of these I sorry, but why?
What do you mean? Why?
Like, why that? He came up with a theory.
Yeah, he came up with an incredibly specific theory.
It's like, you know, like execution was stayed.
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And then she died in Jamaica, December 29th, 1733.
Why? He did research, found records
of a I think it was in a. It was a Merry basically found
her name in the in the record oflike a burial thing.
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But most people aren't sure thatthat was actually her.
They just think that like he just thinks and he found that
out of it and he just thinks it was her.
It sounds pretty feasible too. I mean, either those last two
ones are feasible. Like her dad came and and
rescued her and was like, hey, like you know, knew that the
trial was happening, came in and.
And got her from jail because she was also pregnant and he was
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like I I want to still have my line you know and because he
didn't have any other kids so and his wife was dead so he was
just literally by himself so he wanted to save her but that's I
I do still think the dad might have might have come back and
and helped her promise not to try to set things on fire again
was this was this only like so so in total if you can go off
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the top of your head here whatever.
How long had she been pirating down on shit you know, at This?
Well, two months. Remember, they were on the seas
with Rackham for two months. They were on the seas with
Rackham for two months. But, and that's the that's
counting preseason. And no, there was actually more
from that and was six years on on the boat with James, about
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six years. That's what the author was
saying. She was about on five to six
years on the boat with James getting to Jamaica or getting to
Nassau. And then Anne was around going
through, I think she was on the boat first, then she went to the
land, went to war, got married, husband, died, got on another
boat, got taken by pirates, wentall the way down to the Nassau,
(56:31):
and then they met there. So it was like this.
They had this whole story beforethey died at about 23 to 25,
which is crazy. Damn.
That's fucking damn. See.
Like the world was such a betterplace back when we still
believed in, like, you know, vengeance and revenge.
Revenge avenge me. Avenge.
(56:52):
Literally. Yeah, like.
Like nobody has that drive or that like, you know, like nobody
has it anymore to like go out. And thank you.
That's what I've been saying of vengeance.
I know. I want someone to avenge me.
We need more vengeance. Yeah.
Thank you Black Cat Report is infull support of taking out an
(57:13):
incredibly 1 sided like petty ass revenge on all enemies.
Yeah. You should, though I will say if
you're going to take revenge outon somebody, you can send us an
e-mail anonymously with what they did to you.
Even if they didn't do anything,what you think they did to you,
or maybe even if you don't even think they did anything, just
(57:36):
your revenge plot and how you'regonna take it out.
Please send it to contact at blackcat dot report and we might
read some of them on the air eventually.
I feel like that should go to our other e-mail which is
haters. True Black Cat dot Report had
that set up since the first day,but I do want to say even to add
further on to what Joey just said.
(57:56):
Even if you just hate somebody so fucking much that you come up
with a narrative about what you wish they would have done to
justify the hatred you have fromplease, why are you seeking
revenge? Yes, yeah.
OK, hold on. I'm writing an e-mail to you
guys. Oh God, he's on that e-mail.
(58:16):
I'm not going to follow up with the titty pics comment that I
was going to say now that he's saying.
That continuing on. Anyways, hold on, we just got an
e-mail. Some fucking ass bitch.
She's interrupting me while I'm trying to read a script.
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That's terrible. Please seek revenge.
What a jerk. Most of these are sad endings
for some of the most fierce pirates on the high seas.
They still with the fame Jack Brackman or Calico Jack.
And honestly, will he have been held in such high regards
(58:58):
without them? That's a great question.
No, He would not. He was Christ.
No. Yeah, honestly, I don't think
so. I think they had a huge effect
on how he was viewed and generally gave him the advice
and the strategies he needed to gain the general fame that he
reached. Mary and Ann both lived very
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short lives as they died between23 and 25 years old, which is
honestly sad for such awesome women.
It's crazy to think that Mary could have hit so long in the
British Army without being foundout, and then again on board the
merchant ship she sailed on. It is amazing that they both
bucked the trend of their gendernorms in this times as well.
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They literally looked at where they were in life and said screw
that and went another way. Mary and Ann did not set up
trying to inspire women after them.
They just wanted freedom to liveanother way, which is honestly a
choice they should have had. They just wanted freedom and do
not be trapped in a system that they held them only as one thing
(01:00:06):
property. So their journeys, they become
more than just property. They became free.
And that's it for our episode onAnne Bunny and Mary Reid, pirate
Badasses of the High Seas. Thanks for listening to the
Black Cat Report in Episode 59 on Anne Bonnie and Mary Reid
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Part 2. We always love drinking the grog
and sailing the high seas with these amazing women.
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