Our Talk With Murewa Ayodele 2!

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Welcome back to Black Geek Energy.
We have a special guest returning and if you don't
already know, our special guest is the brilliant Nigerian rider
behind I am Moonlight. No, I am Iron Man.
Excuse me All Night, Black Whitein blood and the current run of

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Storm which has been shaking theX-Men universe and the full 616
universe. Let me just get that straight
into all the best ways. He is also the Co creator of
Newman and a rising voice in global comments, blending
powerful storytelling with deep cultural resonance.

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Today we are diving back into the eye of the storm, literally,
as we catch up on everything through issue 7 of Storm.
Mariwa Ayudeli, welcome back to the show.
Welcome. Back.
Welcome back. Yeah, it's good to be back.

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I missed you guys. I also remember that last time
we did a little game talking about stop and thaw.
Yeah, yeah. And in this issue, I get to have
stop and thaw. They should have discovered they
have stop and talk talking. So, you know, so I get to play
around with that difference in voice.
Yes, yes, that's one. Of the things I want to, I want

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to, I hope we get a chance to get into in this episode that
you there. You capture a lot of different
voices in the comments because I've been keeping up and reading
every issue. But yeah, but before we get
there, like, how have you been? What's been going on since the
last time we talked? Yeah, I've been doing good.
It's been really, really fun. It's it's, it's so different now
because I'm writing like the double digit issues now and.

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It's like. It's it's technically like my
first time writing a double digit issue so.
Congratulations. Thank you.
So it's been, it's been very interesting and challenging and
very different experience, you know.
Nice, nice did. You tell us last time I went,

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when you start writing a new comic, yeah, Once you get to
like issue 15 or something, that's when they kind of like
evaluate whether it's going to be.
No, he said. Five last time. 05, it was 5
issues, Yeah. OK.
So how did you already have thatevaluation?
How did it go? So yes, I guess five issues
every five issues. So, so yeah, so when I started,

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I only had five issues. So when issue 1 came out and
they saw the sales and the pre-orders for the next issue,
they're like, OK, now you can do6 to 10.
So and now that we've seen six and seven, how they're doing
well. So it's not like, yeah, you can
go to the next 5 issues. So those are the issues I'm

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working on right now. OK, cool.
So I want to get more into comicstuff later, but I have to ask,
you have been on like it's critically acclaimed this run?
Like how? How does it feel for everyone to
be loving this project? It's, it's, it's, it's very,

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very different. It feels very different.
I remember the first time I worked on an international comic
book series called New Men for with Action Lab comics.
And I was so used to, you know, because I've, I've been a comic
book fan, you know, just been inonline discourse for years, you

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know, so I guess I thought any comic book, I thought every
comic book that gets published in the US, you know, they get
discussed on the Wednesday that the issue comes out.
I thought it was like the natural normal thing because
even in Nigeria over here, we have some small groups online.

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So even when some issues of the Nigerian comics I was publishing
yet do get released, you know, maybe some some small Facebook
groups just see people discuss it, talk about it and stuff like
that. So, but this Newman was the
first comic book that was internationally published.
And so on the Wednesdays was going to come out, you know, I

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log in online and I was like, yeah, OK, so I'm, I'm waiting
for the discussions to come in now.
You know, I, I, I'm searching, I'm still, I'm on Twitter.
I'm like, OK, OK, any minutes now?
And nothing ever comes in, Like nobody talks about it at all.

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So I'm like, oh, OK, so I guess it's not normal.
I guess it's like the Creme de la Creme, you know, the very top
comics that get talked about. It's not like all comics get
talked about. So I was like, oh, so that was
the first day that kind of like humbled me.
Like, you know, we just focus onthe work and stuff like that.

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So now get to that experience that I was expecting then now
getting it now where even like aday before the comic even comes
out, some people even get some illegal leaks and some stuff and
discussion, you know, and you know, some people say, do they
have like friends that are like comic shop owners?
And you know, they've, they're like, dude, you know, I always

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come here, I buy all the variants and stuff.
I need to read this comment before it comes out.
And they're like, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
You know, So, you know, so you see people that are, you know,
already talking about it as early, sometimes as early as
Monday, as early as Tuesday before the book comes out.
You know, some people, some people buy from Amazon Australia

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because of time difference. So that.
Let me sign up for Amazon Australia real quick so.
So, so, so everybody from AmazonAustralia, because it's like 12
hours earlier than you know, US.So they get to read the books
like 12 hours earlier than everybody else, you know, so
different things like that. So you see before already

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talking about the books before it comes out and it's surpassed
even some of the expectations I had coming in into the industry
then. So that has been very, very
fond. That's been very humbling.
I cherish that because I've experienced logging in and

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finding nothing about your book.Nobody's saying anything about
your book because I've expressedthat I really, really, really
appreciate go, You know, I know it's not normal.
So going on and seeing all thosediscussions and everything, I'm
seeing all the wonderful reviews, seeing everything,
It's, it's, it's, it's been I just, it makes you happy doing

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what you are doing and it's energizes you to keep going.
So yeah. Nice.
It's it's. Been a really spectacular
experience. How, how, how long did it take
to go from like that? First issue dropping, you
logging in and there's nothing to you know, like when you log
in and like or days before the issue drops.

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People are have something to say.
They've already read it. Like was it like issue 3, Issue
4? Oh, sorry, let me get the
question correct. Like can you rephrase it?
Sure, sure, sure. So can you refresh the question?
You, you, you mentioned how likewhen the the first issue was
dropping, like there, you know, you logged in and there wasn't

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like a whole lot of chatter online about the comic book yet,
right? So how long did it take for you
to notice that shift for things to go from like, was really
reading it to like, yeah, peopleare getting this before it comes
out? OK, that first issue I was
talking about, it was a previouscomic that.

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I. Did with the publisher, Yeah.
Storms Stump from the very firstissue.
Was like. Being hot like that, but I
wasn't sure if it was like algorithm that was deceiving me,
you know, Because you know, whenyou're online, if you like a lot
of things, you see more of the things that you like.

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So it doesn't necessarily mean that everybody likes it.
So, you know, when people were telling me the book is sold out
and stuff like that, you know, I, I, I saw some people that
were right, not rightfully, but why a little bit skeptical say
that, yeah, if a comic shop willyou have that 3 copies because

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they weren't sure the book wasn't wasn't going to be
successful and three copies got sold out.
It's still sold out. Doesn't mean the book sold well.
So, you know, there are people saying stuff like that.
They are like, well, so that kind of creativity to doubt, you
know, I went to some interviews.They're like, Oh my God, do you
know how long it took me to get a copy?
This thing is selling like hotcakes.
People love it. I'm like, yeah, I'm grateful and

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all, but I'm still like, OK, no,we shall see.
You know. And so it, it took like issues,
you know, where like maybe like around issue 4, issue 5 and
you're like, oh, we're still consistently every week we come
out at the top 10. Every month we are in the Top

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40. You know, it's something and
stuff like that. So you're like, oh, so that's,
that's good. But to kind of answer your
question, for that first comic that I did, I looked at that.
It's any response to Storm 1? I think it's about four years.

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Four years. Oh, man, You.
You were in the game a while before.
I mean, I feel like they say that about a lot of industries.
Like you got to work in it for awhile before you really start to
see the results. Yeah.
But with Storm, I definitely have a story just like you just
mentioned. Like after we had you on the
show, I was trying to get the next issue sold out and you
know, and I had the what he ended up having is the color

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book guy. He took the issue out of someone
else's like pull list and was like, they don't come in that
often. We'll get them another issue
later on. So I had to steal someone else's
Storm comic. But I I know a friend of yeah, I
know a friend of mine in the UK.So so that I just got back into
comic. So the only others like Absolute

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Batsman and Storm and he would probably if he goes to the if he
goes late, he will probably still get Absolute Batman, but
it won't get Storm because there's something about the
Storm comic for some reason. It's not necessarily about the
quantity itself, it's the fact that the readership of the Storm

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series come early. You know, if for some books that
might sell more than Storm. Oh, they might sell throughout
the week. You know, it might be like, Oh
yeah, you know, they're coming in bit by bit from Wednesday
till the next Wednesday. They're coming bit by bit.
But for the Storm series, it's like everybody comes on the
first day. So it's like, so it's like you,

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you, you don't wait till the weekend.
Like by the weekend it's sold out like they going on the first
day. So you would also see it on even
the Amazon chats as well. When Storm comes out on
Wednesday, he's like in the top five.
There was a particular there wasa particular week that we're
number one. We were.
We were out selling Ultimate Wolverine front.

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Door. Congratulations man.
Like there was a week where, well, so the ultimate Wolverine,
like it was like massive, like damn, you know, so that's what
they come on that first day. Like everybody comes on that
first day. So on that Wednesday, it's like
very hard to beat some fans. They they pour in.
So yeah. So it's, it's so it's so it's

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not essentially even about how many people are buying it.
It's how energetic they are towards the series itself.
They want to know what happens next immediately.
So that's why I said people, people on Amazon are going to
buy it in Amazon Australia to make sure they get it earlier,
you know, and things like that. So, yeah, that's, that's so that

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that that even makes it more exciting than just even the
number of people buying it. The fact that the the people
buying it themselves are so enthusiastic about the products.
So that's that's. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's got to
feel great and then you deserve it.
It's it's it's a great read. Yeah, you definitely deserve it.
But yeah, I just want to it's we're on the comic.

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I want to talk about the letterssection right quick.
You went into a lot of personal things, a lot of your background
in the letters section. And one of the things that I
loved the most was I think it was issue 4.
Let me just make sure 'cause I do have the comic books right

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here with me. I got the receipts.
I got the receipts. No, I got the the notes.
So I don't say anything wrong. But it was four or five.
You talked about the type of Nigerian spells that they would

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do and you had the the words of the spell in Nigerian.
And I just thought that was so beautiful.
And then you translate it for us.
So like we could see how your culture is directly influencing

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this book and making it more real for Storm.
So like, tell us more about likethe spells that are in here, the
other influences in your culturethat are really affecting this
book. OK.
I think that was actually issue 2.

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That was issue 2 where we see Doctor Voodoo, issue 5, issue 5
and four, I think I talked aboutimmigration issues that
sometimes Nigerians. Yeah.
So there's one of the things, one of the mandates I was given

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when I was out to work on Storm is basically Ado.
Define what a storm book is. You know, we've had a lot of
Storm solo series, but we've notthey've been miniseries.
Some of the story sets in the past, like origin stories.
We've only had one ongoing, the Great Park ongoing series and

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it's it's went for 11 issues. We're hoping to break that
record to go further than that. So it's like Ado.
But even in that series, she didn't completely break off from
the X-Men. But in this story, she's
breaking off from the X-Men. You know, she's not a member of
any of the X-Men team. They're making her join The

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Avengers, you know? So the way you see, you know,
The Avengers, you know, the X-Men, they are like, if like
all these people are coming together to be like one team,
one hero kind of thing, while The Avengers are like a group of
solo heroes, you know? So they wanted her to play that
role of like a solo hero kind ofthing in its full totality.

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So one of the things that I alsocame in to do is, OK, what what
do I want a Storm solo to feel like, to look like?
And analyzing the things I like about Storm myself from the
cartoons, from the movies, from the comics and things like that.
So I'm like, OK, I've always gravitated towards the fact that

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she has African heritage. So I'm like, OK, so that's
check, you know, she has a little Mystic origin that is not
usually explored. Check.
You know, she's often called a goddess, you know, So she has a
mythical side as well, you know?So you're like check, you know,
and the superior aspects, the X-Men mutant aspects.

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So like, OK, so let's take all those 4 flavours and let's see
how we can, you know, put this story.
So when it comes to the African aspects, you know, you want to
make some, you know, references to, you know, Africa itself,
some from my own culture directly, some just just some
from other countries in Africa itself.

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Initial 9, we're going to see a cosmic entity that's good to be
speaking in Swahili, you know, which is, which is Storm's
native language. So I get to see a lot of magical
spells, especially in West Africa.
You know, the Caribbeans, they're usually in Yoruba.

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So that's why you see a lot of others Yoruba spells, you know,
the visual aesthetics of what African mysticism is.
You know, if I'm going to be breaking the Mystic side of
Storm, I don't want it to look like Doctor Strange's own.
I don't want it to look like scarlet witches or it should
have that. It should have our own unique

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flavour, you know. So let's put let's mix the old
African thing into it, you know,so when it also comes to the
mythical side, you know, where she's very referred to as a
goddess and everything. So yes, so I got to be taking
some inspirations from like Greek mythology and some
Mesopotamian myths and stuff like that.

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But we're also going to be takenstrongly from African
mythologies as well, especially the Yoruba mythologies, you
know, OK, how do they structure their myths?
You know, how how do the characters interact?
You know, what are some of the themes that they explore, you
know, and you know, in, in, in, in Super Heroes, so many times,

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you know, the character is like Superman and all stuff.
They are very perfect, you know,But in a lot of old myths, you
know, especially the Greek and Yoruba mythology, the gods are
very, very flawed. You know, they're very, very
flawed. And the stories that as you see
as this as the Storm series is going against that it's going to

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get a little bit more complex aswe go before it becomes simpler
again, you know, And it's because, you know, if you read a
lot of others mythologies like Greek mythology and Yoruba
mythology, they get complex at some point, you know, like the
Titanomarky, you know, like the where the gods were fighting the
Titans. You know, you start originally
from different perspective, whatrole this God was playing, what

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role this God was playing, how this one betrayed this and this
one betrayed this one and stuff like that.
You know, so we start seeing things like that.
You know, we're already introducing in the last issue,
we already introduced like 4 Thunder gods and you know, and
they attacked Storm. We're not sure.
Why, you know? And in the, in the next issue,

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we're going to see like for somepolitical reasons, you know, and
in that once we're going to introduce the storm God that is
older than four, older than, youknow, and that might be at the
root cause of this, you know, isHaddad, you know, us as Bao,
which is the oldest storm God that we know in record.

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So in this world is also the oldest storm God.
So, you know, so we're playing with all those things, you know,
so in, in the coming issues, we're going to be visiting
different realms. You know, we know, we, we visit
Olympus a lot, we visit Asgard. Now we're going to be visiting
our room, you know, the realm ofthe Orishas, you know, so we're

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going to be visiting, you know, some special realms that's like
it's it's it's like, you know, where, you know, there's some
places in on Earth where you know, everybody on Earth can
meet where it's like like the seas now, for example.
And in space where there's like a treaty where, you know,

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everyone can go and cooperate together and everything, you
know, and share resources. You know, we're going to meet
realms like that where there is no all pantheons kind of a
treaty. And that'd be a claim on that
realm, you know. So we're going to start seeing
some of these serious politics and power grasps and, you know,
and so it's, it's good to get really interested when it comes

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to the mythical side. I got still good to having the,
you know, superhero side. She's still going to be on
Earth, you know, in the coming issues, she's going to be having
a clash through the FBI. So, so you know, different
things that you expect a superhero to, you know, 'cause,
you know, superhero is basicallylike a vigilante.
You know, you're definitely going to have some, you know,

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runnings with the law, you know,and on how you operate and
things like that. So, you know, so we're going to
be having all that aspects of ofstorm explored and, you know,
that's, that's the goal. And so that you can see that
this is what a storm book is. You know, when you pick up a
Daredevil book, you're like, Oh yeah, I'm reading this greeting
noir story. That's that's, that's also

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explores some religious things, you know, talking about, you
know, Christianity and things like that.
If you read the Daredevil book and you see a Bible quotes,
you're not going to say get religion out of my temple.
You're not going to say. Something like that, 'cause you
expect to see it there, you expect, you expect to see, you

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expect to see talks of, you know, Christian religion.
You expect to see things about the law, you know, legal
proceedings, you know, you expect to see superhero
shenanigans. You expect to see, you know,
some romance, you know, yes, there are some things you expect
to see. And occasionally, you know, you

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expect to see some mysticism too, just a little bit.
So those are the things, those are those pillars that make up a
Dare Devil book, you know, And different creators play with
different aspects of it to different degrees.
Some Lin one to the crime Noah thing, some Lin one to the
religious thing, you know, some lean more into the Mystic

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things, you know, where oh, you know, Daredevil, you know,
trains with his master and you know, Elektra and he learns how
to use his sixth sense of and you know, things like that.
So, so I want to set up the pillars for Storm, you know, so
that, you know, in future seriescreators can now play with

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different aspects that they want, you know, to a different
degree and everything. So I want you to set up those
pillars. And so that's why we say
different things like that and setting up the aesthetics and we
need to put our black and African heritage in the.
Forefront as well. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Yes, yes.

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And hopefully yourself, the pillars for yourself and you're
writing this book for years to come because I don't think
anybody can write this book likeyou can.
But it issues 7 in the in the letters page.
We celebrated 50 years of Storm and it was a, you know, you took

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us back to where she came from all the places she's been in all
of media since giant size X-Men 1 when she first appeared and
she she blew X-Men expectations and comic expectations out of
the water. So like you are writing this
iconic legendary character that has been all over media.

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So how does that feel that so that you are the writer
celebrating her during her 50th year birthday.
How does that feel? You know, like I think I've
shared with you before, like even when I was offered the
project, I was like, man, too scary.
No, no, no, no, I'm not doing this, You know, So every once in

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a while when I'm writing a, an issue, I call, I call doctor my
friend. And I'm like, man, I still can't
believe they're making me. They're allowing me to do this,
you know, especially when I makethis big change into something,
you know, for example, I'm writing an issue with Bishop.

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I just finished writing an issuewith Bishop and stuff.
And I'm like, Doctor, they're allowing me to use Bishop.
How are they allowing me to use Bishop?
How is this impossible? You know?
You know, currently I think Galactus and Silver so far,
they're not even like in the Fantastic Four series.

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They're going to be in the Stormseries.
And I'm like, I think Galactus and Silver Surfer are going to
show up in the Fantastic Four movie and then the Storm series.
Ow. Ow.
Allowing this to happen. Yeah, right.
How is my way allowing this to happen?
Ow, ow, you kind? Of want to ask, Well, hey, you

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sure? Yeah.
So, yeah. So occasionally I'm like, OK,
you know, I submit stuff and I'mlike, they see.
But I'm like, maybe they didn't see it.
Maybe they. Didn't see it.
And then the artist draws the issue and I'm like, of course
they saw it because the the artist has drawn it Now you can

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see it. And they're like, yeah, yeah.
And they're like, yeah, we're cool with it.
And I like, OK, you know, OK, say so, you know, so yeah.
So it, it, it, it, it, it feels unbelievable 'cause like I said,

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you know, I've, I've, I've experienced the part when it was
little, you know, when I was writing the short stories, you
know, where I'm like, Oh yeah, this is what Spider Man would
wear in this, this, this, and I'm like, sorry, no, you know,
you know, and maybe I'm like, Ohyeah, yeah, yeah, I want to say

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this, this and I'm like, I'm sorry, you know, someone's
already using this character, you know, and I'm like, Oh yeah,
you know, and things like that. So I've experienced all that.
So, and here just getting to just walk without like little to
no limitations, like here, just go on place the path and stuff.

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And I'm like, oh, wow, thank you, you know, yeah.
And so are you getting, you are the causing entities right now.
Sorry. Sorry, I didn't.
Yeah, gets a few notes. That's that's got to feel good.
That's got to, that's got to feel like, like make you more
confident. Like, like, yeah, like, yeah,
this is my character now, like Storm is.
Yes. And and we're going to talk

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about those limitless boundarieslater.
But now is the part of the show that put you on segment and this
segment we ask our sales and ourguest is there if there's
anything in all of media, comics, TV, movies, books,

(28:46):
anything. That you board games.
Board games, video games, anything that you are consuming
right now that you want to put our listeners on to.
And this segment is sponsored byMovie Pass.
The markets. Can you please tell them about
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Jared. What do you want me to tell them
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(29:08):
how great it is. Movie Pass is amazing service,
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What else you want them to know,Jared?
Oh. My God, DeMarcus.
OK, I'll just read this bill service that allows users to
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(29:29):
You pay your subscription, you get your MoviePass card, which
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And it's easiest part, you know,lowest tier, I believe was like
$10 when I signed up for it. And I could see maybe 3 or 4
movies a month on that alone. And it's, it's worth it.

(29:51):
You go. You go to the movies.
One time a movie pass and it's paid for itself.
Yeah. So, Mariah, have you consumed
anything recently that you wouldlike to put our listeners on to?
OK. I don't think it's new ball.

(30:11):
I just discovered it recently. I think last time I think I
talked about free reign and I think it's one my name of the
year. So yeah, good on that.
Yeah, but I think this is actually older than I'm fearing,
but I just discovered it and as oh, Oh my, I think I forget this

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title. It's about dungeons, where
they're going to eat in dungeons.
Oh yeah, delicious in dungeon. Yeah, that's, I think that's
newer than fearing. Yeah, OK.
It's newer. OK.
I thought it was older. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, you know, but yeah. But really?
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm enjoying. I enjoyed that when I watched it

(30:56):
recently. I mean, I enjoyed the recent
season of Invincible and the last season of solo levelling
also was spectacular. OK, so you do be watching you.
Watch. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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OK, OK, that is great. Yeah.
And the Mon web solar leveling is good as well.
So if you have time, I know you're writing Storm on a cosmic
level, but if you had time to just read it down as well,

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DeMarcus, do we have an activity?
For the audio book, you know, orthe audio book for the solar
level. I listened to the audio book.
It was it was still really good.I.
Can't. I might check out the.
I might check out the. Yeah, I can't.
I can't put people on to nothing.
Jared, you ain't nothing to put.People on to I mean the.
Only thing I was going to say isI've been playing, I've been

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playing clear up score expedition 33.
Oh OK, I love it. I've been, I've been binging
that game. I was up till like maybe like
one in the morning playing yesterday and I had to stop and
like do all my tours. Yeah, I was playing it this
morning 2 till 3:00. So we were on at the same time.

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And and how far did you get? Where am I now?
I just, I just got to like the the I just finished the little
mansion in like the water level,the flying water.
OK, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you heard of this game?
Morewa Expedition 33. Oh no, I have very poor

(32:41):
self-control, so I stopped videogames like I told you like.
No, I really talked about this. I really talked about this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
So we don't need to start you? Yeah, if I start, I won't, I
won't get any script study anymore.
Yeah, I understand. I understand.
All right, So we'll we'll play the video games for you.
We got you, but. Yeah.

(33:05):
It's, it's been a beautiful gameand it were like, that's the
thing that's like the first thing I noticed.
I was like, oh, this game is beautiful.
Like really well. Like the art is really well
done. And then like it, it's not like
a big IP. So it doesn't, it doesn't feel
overdone. It feels fresh.
It feels new. It reminds me of playing like
smaller titles like on the Xbox,like when it first came out,

(33:26):
which used to be like one of my favorite thing to do is like go
to GameStop, buy like a $15.00 game, you know, just off the
shelf, like whatever I happen tosee.
And sometimes it'd be great. Sometimes it'd be like, why did
I waste my money? But but no, but clear obscure
Expedition 33 has been like really good.
My only my only critique if I had to give a critique is that

(33:48):
it feels a little clunky to playsometimes.
OK, well, yeah, I I did have to turn on for the active time
balance system. I had to turn on the auto
because I'm not, I'm not doing, I'm not wasting my energy on the
clicking A and and clicking B, the dodge and clicking right B,

(34:08):
the trigger and the Perry. I'm not doing all that.
I just want to play the game andwatch the story.
I'm not doing all that extra stuff.
I did put on the auto so. Options.
A little context from Railway and our listeners.
The game, like in the battle system, there's like a timing

(34:29):
thing, like a timing mechanic where when you make certain
attacks or you're being attacked, if you press the, you
know, press the right button at the right time, you can get like
critical hits. You can get more effects from
the attack, the attack becomes more powerful, or you can like
completely dodge it or parry it if you're being attacked.
And Jerry, why'd you turn that off?

(34:50):
I feel like that's like what makes this battle system so
great. I remember playing the game like
this before and I would love to then like it's.
Legend dragon it. Is hard, Yeah.
Legend of Dragoon. Yes it is hard.
It is. It does take time to get used.
To and and I turned it on on Legend Dragoon too.
I'm not. I'm not doing all that.
I'm. Not doing all that in my

(35:12):
battles. I'm just no, because you have to
because like, OK, doing it for attacks is one thing.
Doing it for dodging is a totally separate doing it for
Perry's. I don't even Perry in God of
War. So why am I paying this turn
based RPG? No, no, I'm not doing that.

(35:35):
I'm not doing counter attacks. I'm sorry, Never.
I understand, I understand how you feel because it is kind of,
it is kind of hard, especially if you're fighting something for
the first time. Like I'm there was like one
thing, I had to fight it like two or three times.
So I get his timing down on all of his attacks till I'd be able
to dodge everything. And that window was so small in
the Paris, it's so tiny. I'm not doing it you.

(35:58):
Got to you got to stop looking at the little thing.
You got to go on instinct, Jerry.
You got to feel it. Well anyways, the mic is doing.
That's all I had to do. We have an activity, yes.
Yes. Do we have an activity?
Yes, we do. And it's funny you mentioned the
the storm and Thor Marea, because that's what we're about
to do again, you know, now that we're both now that we're all so

(36:19):
much deeper into this comment. Oh, no.
Oh. Don't mess it up now.
You won last time, Marea. You.
You. You, you put the whole thing on,
but it wasn't any risk then 'cause it was like, Oh yeah,
yeah, I feel good to be like, you know, if I failed, I was
like, you know what, I guess started researching and stuff
like that. But now I'm into deep, you know,

(36:40):
if I failed, it's like I would dare you even better, you know,
and. We've been reading, we've been
reading your Storm comics, so everything we know about Storm
is from you. OK, so so he has the final
answer. He's the judge during.
That case and then you know how to make games.

(37:01):
Work or any question I get wrongI make Storm say to the next
issue. Yeah.
It was cannon, Yeah. Now it's cannon.
Stone says it. I actually won that game.
If we go back, OK, OK, so the way for the way games work on

(37:26):
Black Geek Energy, DeMarcus comes up with some questions,
you know, some fun for us to do.We're usually a trivia based
format, but we just take different different avenues with
it. I decide the questions, I decide
who's right, who's wrong, the winners and the losers.
In today's game, like we played the last time we had Maria on
the show. Is it's going to be this or
that? Is it going to be is does this

(37:48):
quote come from Storm or does itcome from Thor?
These are two very similar characters for, for those
listening out there, you know, and you know, I have a question
about, I have a question later or later in the show, but right
now we're ready to play. Give me a number between 1:00

(38:11):
and 10:00. 5/2. 2 All right, Thenumber was 9.
Jared, you're first. God.
OK, now I'll give you guys a little bit more about how I set
this game up. This time I did a little bit
more a little bit more work thanI did last time I leveled the I
came up with like a difficulty scale for these questions.

(38:33):
OK, so I have like 3 easy questions.
I think that's I think that's right.
Like 3 easy ones. Yeah, like 3 easy ones, like 3,
like 4 or 5 medium ones and like2 hard ones.
OK. Just to prepare your mind, you
know, you don't have to overthink.
Let's just get this over with 'cause this might be

(38:55):
embarrassing again, so come on, let's.
Alright Jared, number one, it's for you.
The skies rage with my. Fury.
Oh my God, is that it? Is that it?
This. Is the easy one.

(39:18):
I didn't say we was going to start with the easy ones.
I'm going to say Storm. Jerry, that's not right.
Are. You serious?
That's a literal, that's a literal side effect of her
powers. When she's mad, it rages with

(39:39):
her fury. So I'm no, I'm calling
shenanigans. I'm calling.
Shenanigans this is. I got the sources too.
This is from the Thor movie 2007.
Let me, let me log off. Let me log off and go.
Let me go dig. Put my hole into a ditch because

(39:59):
that's not fair. What?
What? That's not even.
A saying What does that mean? I don't know.
All right, Maria #2 is for you. Nature bends to my will.
Is that Storm or is that Thor? Stone, I think.

(40:20):
Absolutely right, That is Stone.Absolutely right.
From Uncanny X-Men #150. Not you get into issues.
I told you I got the. I got the sources this time.
OK all. Right, Jerry, next one for you,
The Tempest and answers to me alone.

(40:49):
I'm going to say Thor. You're right.
That is Thor. OK, excellent, excellent.
I think the giveaway there was like Tempest.
Yeah, I don't think it's a blackperson saying Tempest.
I don't see Yeah, black people not really say that word.
See some some of these are easier, you just got to look for

(41:11):
the clues you. Got to look for the.
Clues. All right, Marueva, this one's
for you. I summoned the full power of the
storm. Oh God,

(41:32):
I'll see Thor. When?
When? Is it final answer Thor?
I'll see Thor all. Right, it is Storm Marueva that
was from X-Men Animated Series Season 1 Episode 3.
Enter Magneto. Dang, you got to watch
everything. I'm not giving the just in case

(41:56):
y'all want to double check me because Jared is always saying
I'm pulling these out of my ass so.
OK. All right.
Because I was about to say that too it.
Was like I got the receipt did Iskip what?

(42:17):
How many have you done? Four.
No, I'm good. We're good.
All right #5 Jared is for you. OK.
Lightning is but a whisper of myvoice.
Storm. That is Thor from Thor, the
third floor Thor #3. Ow.

(42:40):
I would have said Storm too. 'Cause it sounds really poetic.
It sounds like something Storm would say, and I think I don't
think most people think of Thor as like a poetic guy.
No, no, whispers, the delicates.Yeah.

(43:01):
OK. That was, see, that was a tough
one. That was, that was one of the
harder ones. All right #6 Maria, this one's
for you. I am the storm and I cannot be
stopped. I will admit that the game this

(43:27):
time is harder than the last one.
Sorry. Can you repeat it?
Sure. Sure, sure.
I am the storm and I cannot be stopped.

(43:48):
Why does it sound like somethingThor said in the mortar?
Thor something I. Don't know.
It does sound very like that. Sound very vain, like something
Thor would say. Well, I'm wrong I guess.
I. Don't know.
I don't know. I'm just, I was just agreeing
with you. I'm just trying to help you

(44:11):
support you. But Storm could have said that
on. Mars.
Like I see Thor saying this, I see Thor saying this.
I don't know that's. That's kind of the point, you
know. Oh man.

(44:33):
I mean, in Maria, like you said in the beginning, like you can
just put it in the next issue and then you win.
OK, I'll go against my instinct,I said.
I'll say Storm. You're right, it is Storm X-Men
#1. OK, OK all.

(44:56):
Right, all right, all right #7 we're back to you, Jared.
Oh goodness. The storm is mine to command.
Who are they talking to? I, if I, if I, if I were to give

(45:18):
you a hint, that's not a good hint.
I can't give you a hint. Let me think.
Let me see what I got here. OK?

(45:40):
This is a definitive statement of dominion over storms.
That's all. That's the.
That is the hint I will give you.
OK, so I'm going to say Thor. All right, good job.
Good job that Thor, because of the explanation here.

(46:02):
This is from a Thor movie in 2011.
But the explanation here is thatThor has dominion over storms
where a storm just asserts her power.
OK, right. When I'm 8 I speak for the winds
and they obey. If you want a hint, just just

(46:37):
think so I can I I can come up with something.
It's that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK. So this quote talks about a

(46:57):
rapport with the wind, I think. I think I think that's the best
I can do. So OK, can you repeat the states
by them? Sure, sure.

(47:18):
I speak for the winds and they obey.
We're talking about having a rapport with the wind, being
able to talk to the wind. I'd say storm.

(47:42):
That is correct. It is storm because the other
side of this the other side of the hint was instead of having
dominion over and I was like that just said that that's the
I'm going to give it away. All right.
Coming down to the last 2 questions.
All right, let's do it. Jared, OK, you know, in the

(48:03):
game, in the game right now is is 2 to 3.
So it's anybody's game still sure.
So which are the easy ones? Yeah, which one?
I think these ones we already OK, Jerry, the elements are

(48:30):
extensions of my soul storm. That's right.
See, I feel like that's an easy yeah, no, storm is definitely
storm. Storm is definitely the more
soul person of these two. Except for when she's whispered
to the lightning. The stress.
Of the elements. Right, OK #10 Maria, it's for

(48:55):
you. You can, you can end the game
right now. Yeah, we three to three time to
seal the deal. And this is our one.
I can't. I can't lie to you because I'm
reading it. And I'm like, if I didn't have
the answer in front of me, I wouldn't know.

(49:17):
In the heart of the storm, I find clarity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's I, I know, man.
I know. I know.

(49:41):
The hint I will give you is thatthis wait.
This is from AI. Don't know.
I don't know if that would get here.
Let me think. Let me think some more.
Let me think some more. OK.

(50:18):
Don't let this quote sounds meditative.
Don't let that fool you. OK.

(50:47):
I'm not sure if that your hints just misdirected me or not,
right? Right I was.
Trying to help. It sounds like meditation.

(51:13):
One of these characters is is more likely to meditate than the
other, but don't let that fool you.
Let's go with Thor. That is correct.
It is a Thor quote. Yes.
I don't feel like Thor often. Thor often has like those
moments of peace and moments of clarity in his stories here and

(51:38):
there. Definitely.
And they are impactful. But yeah, now do you, Maria, you
are the winner 4 to 3. You know, you guys, you guys got
most of the questions right between the two of you and you
are still the undisputed Storm Master.
I think the hints helps this time.
Exactly, The hints did help enough, no?

(52:00):
No. Yeah, but Maray, what?
We have to dive into the comic books now because I have a ton
of questions and I just want to stop right right here, right
now. Now, we already talked about
Issue 1 and I reread it and it mentioned something about Storm

(52:23):
trying to be a congresswoman or a political something.
What was that all about? Oh yeah, I said a lot of people
still talking about that. The quotes basically said it was
a rumor. That was just be poking.
That was just be poking fun at fans because when the book, when

(52:47):
the book was announced, when theO from the Ashes was announced,
you know, there was this document that was leaked.
I don't know if it's such document that was leaked that
that was said that. Oh yeah.
That said, The Wolverine comic was going to be by Saladin Ahmed

(53:08):
and Greg Capullo. Did you remember that leak?
You know that I said there's a lot of stuff that was like the
leaks and what one One of the leaks was that the Storm book
was going to be written by a black woman and the series is
going to centre around Storm running for Congress.

(53:30):
So I was like, Oh yeah, let me. Yeah.
So I was like, yeah, let me put it in the script, you know,
like, oh, yeah. So say it was rumoured that was
going to run for Congress. Yeah.
So I guess with the links and the dialogue, a lot of people, a
lot of people run with it. I still see some people that

(53:51):
especially people that are, you know, trying to like, sabotage
the book or something. I say like, yeah, the story is
about our running for Congress and stuff.
And I like OK, you know? It's much.
They're making it. They're making it so obvious
that they're not reading the book because everyone reading
the book knows that she's not ready for Congress.

(54:12):
Like in any of the issues and stuff like that.
But politics might come up in the story, but it's going to be
as a congresswoman. We're gradually seeing politics
show up in one or two issues. We see the initial one, of
course, like I'll give it a speech and all those things.

(54:35):
We see an issue to, you know, the talk with the doctor.
We see it in Issue 4, negotiation on behalf of the
mutants with Doctor Doom. We see it in even our role with
and our discussions with Professor Xavier.

(54:59):
We're going to see it in, you know, in our discussions with
the FBI, you know, as it moves on, you know, so you're going to
start seeing that political roletake shape bit by bit.
As much as the series feels fast-paced because there can be

(55:19):
a lot of action in some of the issues, you know, like boom,
boom, boom, boom. The story is actually very slow
paced. Yeah.
So, yeah, you see that there aresome things that you touch on
and then later you come back to it.
You know for example in the issue 1 you in this issue 1 you
see Eternal Storm mentioned, butyou don't see Eternal Storm come

(55:40):
into fruition until the last page in issue 4.
And initial. 5 like. I noticed that SO.
That. I noticed so I see.
Some people. Oh, you can.
Go ahead. So I thought you say that.
Oh, I think he has forgotten about eternity thing because in
the initial 7 there was eternitydidn't show up.

(56:02):
Then I go, my God, he's forgotten about eternity and
stuff. And I like like the first time
eternity showed up, we went for issues without mentioning
eternity before he showed up again.
Like, you know, it's, it's the same pacing, you know, you know,
it's because what's that talkingabout now are things that
happened in issue 1 as well thatwe've not talked about a lot.

(56:24):
And those are the things like, oh, the things are going to be
revisiting our things like, oh, the little mutant child that we
saw in the in the power plants, you know, that mutant child.
We've just seen that mutant chatin a while.
It's just as going to be coming up in this in the issues in this
arc. You know, we're going to be

(56:45):
knowing slightly more about the Storm Sanctuary.
So yeah, the after effects of things happen in the X Manos
storm helping Charles Xavier. What are going to be the
implications of it? You know, so things like that
are going to start coming up. You know what I tried to use to
explain to people is a show likeInvincible.

(57:08):
You know, you have the overall plot of Invincible or basically
De Vitreal mites are coming to an invasion.
So that's it. It's always, it's there, but
it's not always there. Some episodes where you're just
focused on, oh, yeah, oh, these people are trying to steal the
Declaration of Independence, andthis is this.

(57:28):
Oh, yeah. You know, he goes to an
alternate dimension to do this, you know.
Oh, there's this guy, you know, he's trying to train with his
brother and, you know, his mother is going through this.
He's having issues with his dating life, you know, and you
might not even talk about your vitro mind staying, you know, I
want to maybe like poor issues later.
Someone from, you know, a vitrimite just shows up and

(57:51):
tries to kill this girl and you're like, what?
You know, and it just comes as ashock, you know, like we've
we've forgotten about the old vitromite invasion thing.
When Conquest shows up, for example, you know, we're not
even thinking about it. And then conquest just shows up
and it's like, you know, you know, you have been warned.
You have been these videos are like, oh shit, that's true,
that's true. That's kind of structure, that

(58:14):
kind of structure you are going with the which I can understand
in, in invisible times. Also, some people say that,
yeah, Conquest just shows up because if it builds up like no.
And it's just says like after me, someone is going to come.
And it's like this, you know, even in the recaps and so many
things you see it's, but it's just so subtle that maybe some

(58:36):
people don't notice, you know, and it's, it's not supposed to
be loud. So that when it just shows up,
it's it's surprising. It's it's this, you know, if, if
eternity thing was being mentioned in issue 234, it would
be as shocking when eternal storm showed up in issue 4, you
know, some people have been forgotten about.
Oh, there was an internal storm thing.

(58:57):
So when she showed, so when she died in four spoiler alerts and
she actually resurrecting 4, you're like, damn, you know, and
that's because you had almost forgotten about it.
You're like, Oh yeah, that's true.
You know, so you know, you know,so for example, now even people
are like, oh, eternity, eternityand this thing.
But you know, almost like, you know, that's even, yeah, even

(59:18):
talk about that. We've never said anything about
oblivion so far. You don't even know what
oblivion has been up to. You know, you're not like, I've
not even mentioned it at all. So maybe when Oblivion makes a
move or something, something like that.
Oh my God, why did we see this coming?
You know, it's it's, it's that'sthe fun.
So I doubt I'll talk about, you know, how it's like it's

(59:41):
gradually complex. And that's because you start
weaving, you know, the the main cosmic plots and they start
having various subplots weave around it.
You know, our friendship, our relationship with our teammates,
you know, our, our, our political ambitions and
different things. Everything just weaves around,

(01:00:03):
you know, I just flowing with itwith each episode.
And you know, it's a shoe and you know, it's it's becomes fun
and everything. So yeah, we're good to start.
We're going to see. Plot points from previous issues
come back up again, and they keep and they continue, you
know? Yeah.
And I noticed that a lot when you end this run because in this

(01:00:24):
first issue, I had questions when I was rereading, reading
the first time that were answered later on down the line.
But one thing that was not answered yet.
So if there's an answer comment,don't tell me.
But in issue 2, she finds out she has radiation poison.
She goes to the doctor and putting night nurse, night

(01:00:45):
nurse's hospital in here was chef's kiss.
I love that one. But she goes to the doctor, the
doctor and you take me on this roller coaster because the
doctor first is extremely, I'm thinking he's racist towards
mutants. He's racist towards this and
that. Then he's like, no, not mutants,
just the X-Men. Then he's like, why?

(01:01:08):
And he's like, the Adventures paid something for this
hospital. The Steven put something in.
Even Moon Night gave us a cash deposit.
The X-Men didn't do nothing. They just saw on their island.
And so we're like, OK. And then we find out that this
doctor is a mutant who's alreadydied.
I'm like, what? This roller coaster ride was

(01:01:30):
crazy. Went back and forth like what?
I think I read that scene 7 times so like what in the world
just happened? Because like, you see her mad
because she's, she's screaming at this doctor and then the
lightning behind her, it looks like.
A yeah. A Yes, yes, yes.
Like that attention to detail was crazy because she's mad and

(01:01:52):
then and then she, she's like, am I?
Am I supposed to be mad at you because you're a mutant?
But then she mentioned. But then he meet.
I suppose people think maybe it's racism.
Yeah. Then he's like, no, no, I didn't
think maybe it's misogyny. I was like, no, no, I don't.
I guess I don't like the X-Men, man.
I don't know what's up. Why don't you like the X-Men?
He's like, no, I'm a mutant too.I've been on Krakoa.

(01:02:16):
So I I just don't like the X-Men.
And then he's like, all right, I'll treat you.
And here's here's the treatment.And I sent the letter on to the
thing. But like, what was his power?
And who is that, Mister? Every doctor.
Real quick, real quick. That was also one of my favorite
parts, man. And like like like Jerry said,
it was a roller coaster. And what I loved is that you

(01:02:39):
kind of you kind of centered or brought to you kind of like put
a spotlight on like how how I guess not selfish, but how like
like self-centered or self focused.
The X-Men are, the X-Men are like, yo, we're taking care of
us. And so we're not even worried
about things that are happening in the rest of the world most of

(01:02:59):
the time. Like maybe some individuals like
Storm gets out there and does stuff, but the X-Men like really
keep to themselves. And this is one time I came to
bite them in the ass. And I really, I love the spin
that you put. On Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a multiple folds.
We all know that the old X-Men motto has been to, you know,

(01:03:27):
save and protect the people thathate us, you know, and things
like that. So it's always been about, you
know, for, for mankind, you know, despite the fact that
mankind hates them and everything.
So the the Kakuan era was basically, we have all this
power, you know, we have Omega level meal terms, We have all

(01:03:51):
this power, we have all these resources do and we keep trying
to use it to convince these people that we mean them.
No are we try, we keep trying toconvince these people that we
can live together. We keep trying to use it to
convince these people, keep it to protect and save these
people. And at the end of everything,
the end of killing us, the end of dominating the kids, they end

(01:04:13):
up hurting us. They end up doing these terrible
things to us. What if you use all this power
and focus it on ourselves? You know, I use it to protect
ourselves. I use it to shoot ourselves.
All this intelligence, all this everything, Use it for
ourselves. Would we survive better?

(01:04:35):
And that was basically the Krakowan experiment, you know,
And I think as much as it's a worthy thing to do, it's going
to also have its own repercussions.
You know, as you focus on yourself and, you know, there

(01:04:55):
are some things that are going to, you know, slip through the
cracks. You know, we see it in a lot of
people on international politicsas well, you know, countries
saying that, you know, we're no longer doing hates in today's.
We're no longer ascending the AIDS, We're no longer helping
this country, no longer doing this and stuff and stuff like

(01:05:15):
that. You see that suddenly maybe in,
you know, UN votes and stuff like that, all of a sudden less
countries are like supporting your causes.
You know, you say that maybe sometimes during war times, you
know, less countries come over to be your allies.
You know, I just say like, oh, oh, so some of those things

(01:05:39):
we're doing actually were the ones that are helping us in
other aspects and things like that.
And so and I so there was that aspect and there's also the
aspect of of the fact that all mutants were on Krakoa.
And I thought, I don't think everyone would like Krakoa.
Not because Krakoa is not a goodplace to be anything.

(01:06:02):
I just think even some mutants just for their power sets would
not be OK then. And I thought for, for example,
a mutant whose power is medical diagnosis, basically knowing
what's wrong with you, you know,would feel useless on Krakow

(01:06:26):
where they add, you know, this ailing gardens, you know, they
add if the disease was too troublesome, just die and gets
resurrected, you know, and all those things.
So it's like the person would feel useless.
So it's like, I would not have any purpose here.

(01:06:49):
So you know, so it's, it's, it'snot just that power set, that
different power sets that I might not be able to think of
now that you would technically just feel like, why am I here?
You know, so it's, it's, it's it's it's that basically there
are lots of things that, you know, Kaakoa was already
providing. You know, what's if what Kaakoa
was already providing was your own power sets.
You know, what's if, you know, so that I'm like, not every

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mutant is going to want to stay here.
So mutants, I don't stay on Krakow.
You just to get support from theisland, do this to get support
from the Krakowan government. I'm not sure it was explored
that much in that era. Oh, yeah, I'm a mutant.
I don't stay on Krakowa. I don't think I'll have anything

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to drink. Krakoa would do this to get all
the benefits and all the supportand everything of Krakoa.
I'm not sure because they were trying to focus on themselves at
that point. So there were all those things I
wanted to explore. And also another thing I wanted
to explore too was a lot of things that I also see in in

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real life and in online spaces where sometimes when you belong
to a marginalized group, becauseyou've faced so much criticisms,
you face so much bigotry, you face so much everything.
Will I expect the worst from everybody we meet?

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And sometimes it endows us from having good relationship and
friendships with other people, you know, because you're already
so protective, you're already expecting the worst, you know,
when you faced racist so often, so many times, even when you

(01:08:42):
meet someone that's just having a bad day.
Oh, yeah, another effing racist,you know, And that person might
just be having a bad day, you know?
So I also wanted to explore someof that.
You know, Storm was just coming from an era in X-Men history
where they were just facing someof the worst attacks.

(01:09:03):
You know, Krakoa was destroyed. You know, the humans were
basically vile to them. You know, you just saw
everything they experienced withorchids.
You know, they were able to manipulate the media.
Everything. They're just coming from that
space. You know, it's easy to even
because there were only mutants on Krakoa, the only mutants in

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Araku, there were few humans, Very, very few.
Almost negligible. You know, it's it's easy to
expect that if you are meeting ahuman, they would almost be
bigoted towards you. You know, you sit a lot of times
where when X-Men meet Avengers, X-Men do usually look at

(01:09:45):
Avengers in a very positive light.
You know, they are most of they're like, yeah, where were
you when this was this? You were this.
I'm like, dude, The Avengers were busy saving the.
Freaking. Planet, you know so yeah, yeah.
Where were you when it was all kisses?
Yeah, going through their own hellish stuff too.

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But, you know, but it's because you you've seen so much hate
from humans that you're like, you expect this from everybody,
including people like Avengers that actually allies, you know,
and you expected. So I'm also writing the story
from Neil Storm, almost expecting.
It's like, like, you know, someone saying that I don't want

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to treat you. And she automatically leans
towards or then you must be a bigot.
And it's like his, his own problem is another thing, you
know, and things like that. And in that same story we see I
experienced bigotry from the ship captain.
You know so. It's like, oh.

(01:10:47):
Yeah, I'm already used to it. So she's so so she's coming with
that energy to to someone else. And it happens to a lot of us in
our day-to-day lives where, you know, we express something
somewhere and then we bring thatenergy into another situation
entirely. You know, you know, someone is
nasty to us in school. So we take it to the workplace

(01:11:08):
as well, even though the workplace might not be, you
know, that bad, you know, so different things like that.
So it's just, I know you shouldn't let your guard down so
that you don't get exploited andstuff, but you should also be
careful so that you don't also, you know, have your knives and
weapons out too quickly when something could have been sorted

(01:11:30):
out with just an easy discussion.
So it's also something I wanted to write exploit too.
And I don't teach people or he preach here about it.
I just wanted to just show it. You know how you know some
conversations could go differently if you just don't
assume what the person means and.
You know, and that part on the ship was very powerful because

(01:11:53):
at first she was being offered some water and then the ship
captain's like, uh uh, we would rather not explode today so you
can go ahead and exit even afteryou saved us.
Thank you. But she go see the doctor did
she says to tell her she has 6 hours to live or something like

(01:12:15):
that. She flies to I forgot where she
flies. She flew to Africa or sorry,
Yeah, she flew to Haiti. Of course, the Haiti Dr. Voodoo
to see Doctor Voodoo who smacks her with a whole whale in the
sky. I was like, so I thought I was

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like, why is Doctor Voodoo smacking her with a whale in the
sky? What what the Is it because
somebody was over his house and.No, she had, I think at that
time, I'm not sure if the caption was there.
Eventually I had like 10 minutesto leave or so.
So she might fly over him or anything.
So it's to quickly get her to descend to him immediately.

(01:12:59):
That's one, yeah. They didn't come out nowhere.
She was like, what? Yeah, that's one.
And and two, it was also to teach her a lesson about magical
heritage. You know.
Because Voodoo is also upset at,you know, like, dude, you come
from this, you know, long line of like powerful sorceress and

(01:13:23):
sorcerers. You know, you have the blood of
Agamoto. Yeah.
You're the director descendants of Asha, you know, Yeah, all
these things, like every one of us would wish we had someone
like we had your bloodline. You know, if Doctor Strange or
myself or anyone at this accent St. that you had, oh, my God,
the things we would do, you know, and here you are.

(01:13:46):
You don't even out. You went mute.
You went mute. You went mute.
Can you hear me now? Yes, yes, yes.
OK so oh, I think this is my Internet connection, sorry.
Sorry. So it was about, OK, that you,

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you, you have all this heritage,all this magical heritage, all
this, you know, if any of all this Mystics in the Marvel
Universe, add your type of ancestry, Oh my God, the type of
magic they will be doing, you know, the kind of they had all
these links to all these things,all these things they'll be

(01:14:29):
doing. You know, it'll be crazy stuff,
but here you are. You can't even cast a single
defence. Spell so so.
Woody was also trying to teach her a lesson there.
Like, you know, look at you, youcan't even defend yourself
against this simple spell. You can't heal yourself from
this simple disease, you know, and things like that.

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And, and we also see that scene,like you said, you know how this
thing comes up. You see that scene come up again
in issue 7. Yeah, yeah.
All that comes up later, even with Doctor Doom.
And we hear that Jericho Drum gives her seven days to live.

(01:15:15):
He possessed her with a demon and he said the demons not going
to hurt you. And he could have done a whole
bunch of other stuff, but he said no powers for seven days.
So she flies to the Louisiana X-Men and spends some time with
them. And on the 6th day child, the
seas heard around the world. What in the world?

(01:15:39):
Having sex with Wolverine? But he told us before he told us
last time we had him on the showthat it was going to be a sex
scene. He told him.
It was going to be a sex scene, but I wasn't expecting Wolverine
because I was thinking, OK, she's going out with Craig, so
maybe Craig, but Wolverine. Craig the Storm, TN on Craig.

(01:16:09):
OK, there's something that happens backstage that
somethings get missing. So I think, for example, some
people are like, you know, why didn't she go to Craig?
Why did she fly to Louisiana? And The thing is, in that issue,

(01:16:32):
the issue is missing a page. We have to remove a page from
that story for legal reasons. So that's why it wasn't that
obvious and stuff. And some so some disciplines
were missing. But if you look at this, if you
look at some of the acts, well, he's Doctor Voodoo.
After speaking with Storm, then we see this spread where she she

(01:16:57):
and Voodoo comes out of this like hot and stuff.
You know, there's supposed to bea caption there that says
Louisiana, and it's because thatis because Voodoo has a place in
Haiti and also has a place in New Orleans.
As you know, is the principal in, is the principal of.

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The Strange Academy. Strange Academy.
Yeah. And in Issue 2, you see, when
the doctor was talking about Doctor Voodoo Doctor Day, he
said, oh, you can meet him in one of his two residential homes
or something like that, you know?
Yeah. So he has a place in Haiti.
So they teleported from Haiti toin New Orleans with Doctor

(01:17:44):
Voodoo's help. So Storm couldn't fly.
So that's one of the reasons whyshe was stuck in New Orleans.
And she was like, OK, let me just hang out with my friends
that also in New Orleans. So it's not.
So I think a lot of Black Panther fans are like, you know,
why did she choose New Orleans over Wakanda or something?
And it's like technically she didn't choose.
It is like, you know, she was basically dropped off by this.

(01:18:07):
And also when I was at that issue, resurrection of magnitude
was still coming out. So I I didn't know the state of
Craig. So when errors are ending, you
know, sometimes, you know, everyrelationship is like broken
apart. Some people are killed, you

(01:18:29):
know, different things like thatwas going to happen.
So yeah. So I'm still hoping that, you
know, in future issues I'm goingto attend to do Craig thing like
what happened between. Craig.
Because I'm still trying. I'm still trying to wait for the
dusk to settle because I think there's some serious I'm still

(01:18:50):
cooking with Araco because I can't touch on the correct thing
until I can touch on what happened in Araco.
So. I need to still know what's.
You know, so I still need to know what the ex office is
planning with Araco and planningwith yeah, so then I can know
how to handle the Araco and the correct thing, you know, like
what happened between Storm and,you know, the Araki, you know,

(01:19:12):
you know, so so there's there's that.
So and that's when the so that'swhy I decided to explore and
Wolverine. And the reason why I explore
that Wolverine is she has this true Wolverine.
They you know, Storm debuted in giant side X-Men one you know,

(01:19:36):
Wolverine was in that same comic, you know, so it's it's
it's way back. And they had their best
relationship. I like their relationship the
best. Yeah, and one thing I like is
one thing I also noted is that of all our relationships, all of
all the guys eventually ended things or broke up with her,

(01:19:59):
Wolverine is the only one that didn't break up with her.
He just died. So.
So I thought there are some, youknow, unresolved feelings there.
So is that then? I just like how they express
themselves when they're together.

(01:20:20):
You know, Wolverine is this ad around the edges kind of guy.
But anytime is with Storm, it becomes like a puppy dog, you
know, he's not this, he's not this ruthless killer anymore,
you know? I mean, he was whipping her butt
like a wolf. Ruthless Skinner for six days.
I mean. Come on Wolverine, she ain't got

(01:20:41):
no power. That was just foreplay.
That was just foreplay. Six days of foreplay.
OK, OK, OK. But then.
So yeah, But yeah, so. So let's explore.
Yeah, and that makes a lot of sense now that you say it like
that. But then the best character that
I have seen in Marvel debuting gear since the century in 2000,

(01:21:06):
The best character ever. This sassy bird from Doom I
love. The Sassy.
The sassy bird from from Doom, Ithought.
You were about to say doom. No, this sassy bird needs to be
in everything. Storm needs to ride the sassy
bird. He needs to talk.

(01:21:27):
That's not what the bird want. I don't give rides.
What are you talking? About.
I love the sassy bird. Like how do you come up with
this? She says.
A giant bird that's sassy the storm and storm can't say no to

(01:21:48):
doom, even powerless. She goes to get a dress from
Rogue and said, well just give me a couple of miles, I'll see
what I can do. And then she gets on this sassy
bird who was the best new character since the century.
And I'm like, like, what is going on?
How did you come up with the sassy bird?

(01:22:09):
Number one, I like to believe I have a lot of interests and I
always like to lean a lot into the visuals of the story and the
Razor Bill bird is one of the birds that I kind of gravitated
towards. I saw it was also trending on

(01:22:31):
Twitter a while back. I think Wisdom Kaye made some,
made an outfit since made some outfits inspired by the birds
recently as well. So I really like the bird.
You know, before the old election thing and the Musk
thing, it was always called likethe Tesla of birds because of

(01:22:51):
its slick design and stuff like that, you know?
So I was like, yeah, I'm going to have the birds in this comic.
So I was like, I want the bird to make an appearance.
So. So I was like, yeah, so I've
been thinking, you know, how do I get Storm?
You know, I I don't want to do the boring thing of you.
Let's get a Jets. Let's whatever we call an old

(01:23:13):
friend, you know, let me get. You know, yeah, They, they, they
have black birds sitting around like in a parking lot somewhere
because they always. Are sold.
So. They can find.
So yeah. So rather than a Jets name the
Blackbird, what about an actual Blackbird?
You know, so let's lean into thefantasy thing and everything.
So yeah. So that's where it came in and

(01:23:37):
it just flowed naturally. You know, I tried to write, I
tried to put some humor in the story as well, in location
because Storm has jokes, but notcurrently in this act because
she's going through a lot. You know, that's why I'm
bringing my guts in to start bringing jokes later on as we
go. So that, yeah, let's, you know,

(01:23:57):
let's just bring in some nice fun flavor and some discussions
there, you know? So it was, it was so it was
really fun to write and I'm happy people liked it.
I didn't even know people would like it.
I thought people would be like, yeah, this is too wacky and
crazy. I used to write doing this, you
know, But I'm happy people likedit.
The best new character that I'veever read.
That was hilarious. And it was good that we had this

(01:24:18):
hilarity right before issue 4 because in this issue, we get a
lot of flashbacks between Storm and her father.
We see Storm eating the okra soup, and at first she doesn't

(01:24:40):
like it. You know, it's slimy.
And then she tastes it. She's like, oh, I mean, like
this. And we also get another meeting
with Storm and her father, whichis the most this.
Meeting. Was very great for me, Yeah,

(01:25:03):
very emotional. And it's just two pages, not 3
pages. But it was extremely emotional
for me because I just saw my grandmother and me and me
talking to my grandmother. But it was very emotional.
So how did you tap into this in this meaning with cancer?

(01:25:31):
I always think children and the opposite gendered parents always
have a very special bond, you know, sons and their mothers and
fathers and their daughters. You know, I think they always
have this very weird bond that always fascinates me.

(01:25:54):
I just tried to explain my work,thinking I am my man to also
explored the really explored relationship of, you know, Tony
Stark and his mother. Usually say a lot of stories
about Tony Stark and the father.It's problematic and everything,
but I was like, yeah, let's do like this story of Tony Stark
and the mother. So people try to tell stories

(01:26:14):
about same gender parents and child, but I think that I, I
don't know, it's just personal. I think the different gender
parents kind of work more for me.
I think it's, it's, it's feels more precious of some sort.
So there's, there's that, you know, my parents are getting old

(01:26:37):
now. So I'm always constantly
reminded of their mortality. So there's, so that's, there's,
there's feeding from that, you know, and you know, so yeah, it
was, it was a lot of my relationship with my parents and
just that fascination with, you know, different gender child to

(01:27:01):
parents. And in my family, you know, food
is more than food. You know, food on food is, you
know, it's like a communion, youknow, it's, it's not just
something you use to sustain yourself, it's something you
bond over. You know, recipes, recipes are

(01:27:24):
intimates, you know, So it's it's when you're thought out to
cook something, you know, when you taste something like, oh,
this is how dad used to make it.You know, it's just very, very
different. It's recipes are like your
identity, like your signature, you know, So it's almost all of
us have like our own unique recipes that we also give each

(01:27:46):
other. And, you know, so even if I cook
something like, Oh yeah, this, you know, this is my sister's
way of cooking fried rice, you know, and things like that.
So I was also leaning into, you know, stuff like that, also
trying to use the food to kind of like speak on heritage, you
know, especially a Black American heritage.

(01:28:07):
A lot of times we over focus on African heritage as well, but we
also want to talk about, you know, Black American heritage,
you know, so I wanted to, I wanted a gumbo dish and, and as
an African, you know, when you hear about gumbo, especially me
myself, I was like, man, okra and rice.

(01:28:30):
That sounds weird, you know. Yeah.
And then so oddly enough, I found out that I think there are
some Kenyan dishes that actuallyhave okra rice as well.
But, you know, that's seen a lotof people related to it being
like, yeah, when I was a kid. So I was like, okra and rice.
It sounds crazy though, but yeah.
But it works, you know? And so so it was, it was nice to

(01:28:54):
see that fun, funny, you know, situation and then see how how
painful it is where this, you know, you know how it started,
you know, especially for people that serve their parents.
You, you know how that thing started out.
You used to talk about food and I was graduated to talking about

(01:29:16):
maybe your job or your kids or grandkids or so many things.
But you now see that situation, that storm never graduated from
this level because she lost themthere.
And then you have that feeling of loss, you know, and then
maybe you appreciate what you have and for people that also
lost them there and you kind of relate, you know, and you know,

(01:29:39):
so it's it's that double scene that makes it work.
It's if you just add the closingscene without that first scene,
it doesn't work. You have to know what she had to
be able to understand what she lost, you know, so, yeah.
So so it was, it was, it was a beautiful scene to.
It was a beautiful scene, but you know what else is beautiful?

(01:30:00):
Store in lingerie. Lingerie with.
I was surprised. I was surprised by for allowed
Me. I was surprised by for allowed.
I was like goats in the script. In the script, I like beautiful
black women in like lingerie. Say that, you know, Lucas is the

(01:30:21):
reference This kind of stuff I want, you know, Yeah, stuff like
that. I'm like OK, OK, OK.
So I was even thinking maybe it was good to get out of backlash
World Seal if I knew it, the party was going viral, 1.5
million lights. I was like.
And then we see Storm in lingerie and then the very next

(01:30:43):
scene we see this beautiful, amazing picture of Storm in this
green dress that is very much rose colors.
All right, just talk about that.How much is that?
Was you? How much?
That was Lucas, Yeah, Lucas Wernick is Oh my God, is

(01:31:05):
unrepresented, he said in in this story.
Like is unrepresent. This was the 5th dress he
designed. Oh, let me see them all.
The fifth one he designed, you know, I might ask him maybe my
publish all of them one day or something, just put it online or
something. And they were all extremely

(01:31:27):
stunning. You know, even this fifth one,
there were like 3 variations andthen we picked this one.
So it was like just banger afterbanger and just trying to, he
was trying to just have something that was going to be
very stunning or something that was going to be beautiful.
Someone would be memorable. You know, we kept trying
different things and before we settled on this one, and the

(01:31:50):
reason why we set on this one was that we wanted something
that looked good on Storm but also felt like something.
Rogue way and it dies. It dies.
Yeah. For example, the puffy shoulders
feels like something Rogue wouldwear, even though Storm would
not naturally wear something that has puffy shoulders, so you

(01:32:10):
know, so yeah, so things like that.
So yeah. So that, that that.
So it was just real stuff. All I did was just put like
reference images for like beautiful green dresses.
What the design looks nothing like what was in my references.
They look so much better, you know?
So yeah, it killed it. It killed it.
It killed it. So finally in issue 3 Star was

(01:32:33):
eating this dessert and as controller Storm has to be with
her powers so she doesn't know Hayward like when she flew out
of space when Wolverine died. She makes a sound knowing how
Doom is. How does?
Storm lose control right? Because this is her first dinner
with Doom. So how did Storm lose control

(01:32:54):
right there? Was just she just forgetting
Doom at that moment? Like what was going on?
My my, my go for the entire dinner with Doom is also a
little allegory tale on unintended racism.

(01:33:17):
And and it's when Doom was trying to like basically, you
know, get on Storm's good side. It was working when he served
the gumbo dish and the reason why it's worked was because he
did his research about what would Storm like.

(01:33:41):
But when it was time for the desserts, it was like, oh, give
me something mutants A mutants would like.
Yeah, he says that he's I tailored this dish for mutants,
yes. Yeah.
So it's became a generic thing. So it's, it's, it's it's it's,
imagine your white friend, you know?
Having you over for dinner. And rather than asking what's

(01:34:04):
you would like, and it's like, oh, yeah, what do black people
like, you know? Yeah, I bet they all like
watermelons and stuff, you know?And it's like, technically, if
you serve me chicken, I would like it because I like chicken.
But if you serve me watermelon, but if you serve me watermelon,
no, I wouldn't like it. I really don't like watermelon

(01:34:26):
at all. OK.
Yeah, so you would, you would, you would miss the mark there.
And that's because we generalizerather than ask me, you know?
So it's, it's it's not harmful racism.
It's just the unintentional 1, you know?
Yeah. So it's, so it's, it's things

(01:34:46):
like that, like it. Maybe Doom would have been able
to convince Storm on his side ifhe didn't generalize with the
desert. If you also, you know, try to
find out what kind of sweets Storm like rather than
generalize like, Oh yeah, what would mutants like and stuff

(01:35:08):
like that. So and it's it's also didn't
also work. So that was on that level, but
also on the plot level. It didn't work because that
mutant gene was all messed up because it was called, it was
called. It was currently linked with the
spirit of a gun that was still healing her.
And you know, they had to deal of do not use your mutants

(01:35:30):
abilities and other stuff. So anything trying to trigger
mutants, specific palates and stuff would not hit the mark.
So to stop probably just insteadof weird like what's this?
You know, so. Yeah, so.
Your mind is so like I would have never thought racism in
that moment. Your mind is so crazy.

(01:35:54):
But after she says no to the desert doom and beauty starts
dooming goes to kill the chef she had to raise her power.
The demon comes out and kills her.
There's a whole battle scene where Eternity comes out in
issue 3, but give issue 4, she kills the demon and eats him,
and then this dimension of manifestation.

(01:36:18):
Now let me tell you something about yourself.
You, you because not since Jack Kirby, not since Stan Lee, not
since John and Hickman have I seen such an insight as to the
Tribunal, Oblivion and Eternity and what is going on right

(01:36:39):
there. Like you said that you were
putting stuff in there and I waslike, OK, whatever.
This stuff like they had to be like, hold up, wait a minute,
let's talk about it. Because this is stuff that you
are affecting the entirety of the you mentioned the one above
all sitting in the House of ideas and you showed it.

(01:37:00):
So I'm like, did they say like how?
Like what? I OK, look, I don't even
understand the the primordials because that's a Jack Kirby
thing and I rarely see them. I have seen them in your comic
book and I think that's all. I've seen them in 2004 and 2005

(01:37:22):
so far. Cuz nobody talks about them.
Yeah, 2025, cuz nobody talks about them.
Nobody. So I'm like, I don't know about
them. I want to know about them, but
I'm not going back in time to read about them.
So I was lost during this whole conversation.
You just explained to me what this whole conversation is.

(01:37:44):
What's going on? Like what's happening?
Because. Because that's why that they
will let you do that in a Storm comic book.
Yeah, I think some also like from Jim Stalin and stuff like
that. I think when I submitted the
scripts for that issue, issue 5,Tom Rivers was like, this is

(01:38:07):
feeling very. Jonathan Nickmani OK, it's one
issue. Let's risk it.
You know, I think you might losesome readers, but let's let's
risk it. And I'm like, OK, I I believe in
it. I think, I think we should risk
it. You know, And, you know, for
some people that are like, yeah,kind of flew over my head.
And for some people that are. Like, you know, the real, the

(01:38:32):
real comic book fans Lord's likethat's.
The reason so so basically just to simplify things, it's just I
hope I have some find it here. It's just we have the universe,
you know, where we all live in, you know, and the entities

(01:38:57):
controlling it is eternity and Infinity twins, you know, and
outside our universe we have theoblivion void controlled by
oblivion and death, you know. And you know, if you also
decides about our universe is that our universe is always

(01:39:19):
expanding, you know, and so by humans always expanded.
But if you think about it, what is it expanding into?
You know, so I'm thinking, oh, it was expanding into the
oblivion void, which also soundskind of cool.
Like saying that we're expandinginto oblivion because some

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people also hypothesize that if the universe is going to end,
you know, it's just keep expanding till like its death,
you know, almost like expanding into oblivion.
So so I'm seeing this oblivion as this space that we're
expanding into. So.
But if the universe is expanding, that also means the
oblivion is getting smaller. Because the universe is taking

(01:40:02):
more and more space. So the two entities in the
Oblivion void are like, this place is getting too small for
us. So I'm just like, you know,
little, you know, just like, youknow, people in like war-torn
countries or people that suffer from economic crisis and stuff.

(01:40:23):
They're like, OK, you know what,what if I send you into this or
that place? So oblivion tells is to death,
like OK, what if I sent death into the universe, you know,
almost like, you know, what if you become you know, what if you
immigrate into the universe, youknow, and eternity being like

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the border control is like, Nope, no way we're allowing
death into the universe. Death literally, you know, ends
things, you know, no way we're allowing death into our
universe, you know? And Oblivion is like bets, you
know, that kind of thing. Like, yeah, you're good to take
death, you know? And then they go to the Living

(01:41:08):
Tribunal to settle that dispute.So they go to battle for that,
and Oblivion wins. So death now moves.
Into. The universe.
OK, OK, OK. And that's and so, and that's my
own little explanation. This is not in the story.
It is just my head cannon. Why?

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If you see some beings that are very very old in the Marvel
Universe, they live for very long.
You know a lot of the gods, a lot of other stuff that are.
The older races are basically mortal while a lot of the newer
races are not. It's probably because the newer
races came after Death was introduced into the.

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Universe. OK, OK.
So. So yeah, So what the battle is
now is, is Oblivion missing his sister and trying to get
Oblivion out of eternity? I want death back.

(01:42:10):
OK, I want death. Back so and so.
And it is like, Oh yeah, you canhave death back.
But it's like I, I can't have death back because we still have
the issue of there's still no space in my country.
You know, there's no space in myrealm.
There's still no space. So you know what I think enough
of all this trying to manage my space.
I want the universe gone so thatthey can have all the space.

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OK OK why is there a conflict with the primordials in Storm?
This is blowing my mind it's so amazing Oh my God.
And I remember reading this parttoward the end of, I think,
issue 4, Issue 5, and I'm thinking I'm like, oh, next

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issue I'm going to see Storm fight Oblivion.
Where's my old Storm Oblivion fight?
Marueva. Yeah.
You get, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like you get it's, it's, it's well like spacing things out,
you know, it's like, yeah, it's like the it's like it's like
Mark versus the Vitromite. You know, it's, it's good to
take you some time. You know, it'll take you some

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time. So yeah.
So. So yeah, me too.
Me. Too.
Yeah. And, and if you also understand,
like for Storm, it's, it's a very strange fight for her to,
to, to play into because Storm has been an immigrant a lot of

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times in her life. You know, she's she's she's
she's been an immigrant in Egypt, you know, and when she
moved to Kenya, even though she's from Kenya, she's not this
person that came from Egypt withan Egyptian accent that's in
Kenya, you know, And when Charles Xavier comes to pick up,

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you know, to go to the US, you know, even though her father is
American, now she's this person that has a Kenyan accent in
America, you know, almost like an immigrant again, you know,
And then the okra KOA thing happens.
And what do they do again? They say, Oh, yeah, go to Araku.
You know where you're also. Yeah, yeah, you know, so this,

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this person would understand death and oblivions.
Yeah, better than my. Side of the story, yeah.
So OK, so Storm is possessed by eternity.
Right. Yeah, yeah, Storm says.
My eternity. She fights too.
She decimates the doomed soldiers and she say your little

(01:44:49):
doomed by doesn't confuse me. She goes to doom while he's
eating. Dude was just like not even
looking at her saying oh Storm will let you hit me.
She's already going to start control.
So this is going to happen rightnow.
You can't kill me. So Storm goes on by her business
into the next issue where we seemy arch nemesis, Professor

(01:45:14):
Dangon Xavier. Now this whole scene with her
cooking, because last last we saw her and Professor Xavier,
they're fighting, you know, they're having a verbal spot.
But this scene with her cooking,if I were going to have my
morals with mutants and mutant kind, And Storm does have these

(01:45:39):
morals. She went against Wakanda to get
that sword for the mutants. So we know she loves mutants
above all else. And she tells Scott later that
if it was you, I would do the same thing.
But the fact that she is cookingwith her and, and she's making
it so calm because cooking is calm for me.
It's a calming thing for me. And my mind is on cooking.

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And, and you show the avocado and the cucumbers and the
onions. Like that was so incredibly
intelligent to have her cooking him a meal while she is having
this conversation with him. Because last I saw, they were
fighting. So even though I hate Professor
Xavier with a passion, this withher cooking, this made it

(01:46:23):
relatable to me. I, I could, I, I could talk to
somebody I didn't like if I had those morals and be like, OK,
OK, we could have a discussion now.
So yeah, that was. Amazing.
Yeah. I was a little worried about

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that scene, though. I liked it.
Every every storytelling sense Ihad was like, yeah, do it, you
know, you know, because you see it a lot in the manga and a lot
of stuff, you know, I was able to say like, yeah, I want the
food details, you know, and everything, you know.
But I was like, man, I know lotsof comic book readers are always

(01:47:03):
like, you know, who are you wasting pages showing me food
and all this nonsense? You know, like, and this is an
event, X-Men, like, oh, people are going to be like, what the
hell? I paid good money to read an
event and you're showing me onions and, you know, jalapeno
Peppers, you know, and no one person complained.
I was like, Oh my God, Oh my God, nice.

(01:47:25):
You know, So I was so happy. I was so happy about that.
I worked. Yes, it it worked intensely well
because that's only way I could see Storm and them talking.
Then Storm and her professor fight against the whole X-Men
and she invokes her new powers. She feeds maggots, the demon she

(01:47:48):
ate earlier, which is crazy, andthe Omega Omega maggot.
So that's coming up. And he destroys the X-Men and
part of it was in the X-Men comic book, but we're not going
to talk about that now. You want to read it?
Then in the next book we get into more cosmic stuff straight

(01:48:10):
off the bat. Silver Surfer is here and
Galactus is here. Oblivion comes.
Then the next phase is just a this is a giant snake with the
Super Celtic serum. Like how do you do that?
How do you go from these amazingcosmic battles to like these St.
level problems that the scientists like?

(01:48:33):
Read Who is it Reed, T'challa and Iron Man are looking for
Storm to solve. Like how do you go from here is
this ultimate cosmic entity to this little itty bitty super
soldier problem? It's, it's, it's creativity,

(01:48:54):
true limitations. You know, I think when I was
writing the first issue of Storm, Storm was supposed to
like, have this big battle with The Avengers and the X-Men, you
know, just to show that she's part of both teams.
So it's going to be a mission that will have The Avengers and
the X-Men on Ego, the living planet.

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That was the first issue. And you know, and while we're
doing that, some stuff will happen on Earth, you know, just
balancing the story and you know, and by the end of the
issue, we'll see her in a new bays, you know, and stuff, and

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that would be the end of the issue.
So it was going to be this nice stuff.
And Tom Brubert is like it's notall about the old space stuff.
He doesn't want to see storm like going to space A lot and
stuff. And at that time, I didn't know
there was going to be a Phoenix book like that.

(01:49:59):
Like, I see why he said that it would have been coming off to
similar to the Phoenix book, which she's in space, she's
always in space. So the story now became, OK, if
I can't take storm into space, then I have to bring the space

(01:50:20):
into storm. So, so the way I do the story
basically now is, you know, it's, it's almost like, you
know, those like Lovecraftian stories, you know, where there's
this mundane stuff happening, but then these cosmic entities
just show up, you know, and all you see the effects of these

(01:50:44):
cosmic beings having an argumentand then the ripple effects
reaches us here on Earth, you know, So that's the kind of
story and I'm going with. So it's now rather than it's
being a space opera is now a cosmic 3 last story.
So, so it gets so, so that little thing that I saw in the
opening scene of Visual 7 of, you know, the Black Winter

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Galacto, that Silver Surfer suit, you know, they're going to
start seeing that ripple effect into this story gradually, you
know, that something that happened in the future in the
far reaches of space, the rippleeffects will reach us here, you
know, so those are the kind of things that are going to be

(01:51:27):
seen, you know, so rather than storming space, having space
adventures, it's, you know, terrible things in space having
effects on Earth and on our life.
Yeah, OK. So we see that.
We see Iron Man come into her home uninvited.
By the way, you love yourself Iron Man, don't you?

(01:51:50):
And. He tells her about this thing
and we see Maggots who was displaying some extra endurance,
some extra powers, What's going on with him since he ingested
the mutant and they are fightingthis giant snake when all of a
sudden the snake is hit with lightning not from Storm.

(01:52:13):
Where did it come from? All of these lightning and
Thunder gods, the sin from the heavens, and they begin
attacking Storm. This is the most I've I I mean,
what in the world you have lightning gods from all over the
globe, Japanese, African, Aztec,all of these lightning gods and

(01:52:37):
it ends with storm using I mean,I mean, I mean remembering what
Doctor Voodoo said and saying her first spell in the 616.
Is that the first one? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that was one of my favorite parts.

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Shango showing up the Suzano chalk.
Man, they I was like, I was like, oh, oh, another one.
Oh, another. One another one they all look so
cool. The designs are so.
Cool. They are cool.
They are. They are cool.
So I that that that was the timethe even Tom Provost was like,

(01:53:20):
you know, put more dialogue. Yeah, so that was so I just did
the best minimum, you know, justput a little narration of like
Chuck my Marangon, you know, so you know who they are.
I'm like, man. So I was scripting it like I
just wanted to be like, you're watching like anime on your
screen. Yes, you know those brutal
fights where people just stop talking, you know, because it's

(01:53:44):
it's so it's it's so crazy that people just stop talking, you
know, because the fight is just so dangerous.
So it's like, you know, so it's like you know your sister, you
know, like moving like, and it'sjust, you know, and it's about
to stop, you know, Omega Margot,you know, but you don't see any

(01:54:05):
dialogue like I'm going to stop.You don't know nothing.
You just see the sword and then Storm blows me away.
It's just. It's just.
All nice action. See, eventually Chuck shows up
and smashes out to the ground and yes, effects is like God
slam, you know? So yeah, that was just they're
like no dialogue, just brutal action.

(01:54:27):
Just breeze through it, you know, feel the tension the way
Storm feels it, you know, like to storm to these girls are not
saying anything, you know, they're just jumping on you.
So that's how you should feel too.
So, so no dialogue, nothing, youknow, no, no line about this.
I am this from this nothing. That was just the goal and I'm

(01:54:51):
happy people like they felt thattension and everything.
So it was very, very nice. And then in the last page, Thor
shows up and it's like, you know, I, I, I, I'm gonna say D
nay. Yes, yes, that page was crazy,
but Chuck actually sees her running away, said Shameful.

(01:55:13):
Sketches her by her hair that. Was the most disrespectful
thing. No, yes.
Who didn't? Hurt by her hair glamour, I'm.
Like yo everywhere. A black woman, you don't think?
Secondly, Storm reaches for thissword and then we see that I
mean this. This has to be like century

(01:55:35):
cutting Aries in half. She rips her hair.
She cuts her own hair. Her hair, like unless she's
doing the Mohawk, she cut her hair in battle.
Now, in the comments you said I was thinking about having her
cut her arm off. That would been better for me.
That would have been better for me, a one arm storm.

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But cutting her hair, that's just she looks beautiful.
But just imagine like like like when she went back to Doctor
Voodoo and she was cured of everything.
She even said, oh, even my hair looks more lucky.
My hair is so large. Exactly.
She was smiling you. Know and then she so.

(01:56:20):
You know, she loves her hair. Like when she was coughing
blood, when she was doing all those stuff, she didn't go to
the doctor. She didn't do anything.
But when she went to the bathroom and her hair started
falling off, oh, man, I'm going to the doctor now.
So, so, so, so, so even if you didn't, even if you don't know
the continuity of like, oh, Storm in the past, but even in
this series, you know Storm likes her hair.

(01:56:41):
You know, you've been seeing that in every issue.
She will style it a little differently.
You know, when she was fighting Wolverine, every single issue,
she styles it differently. You know, every every single
day. Sorry, you know, day one, day 2,
you know, she styles it differently.
She does everything in a dinner scene.
She styles it another way. She when she's spreading animal,
she does this, you know, you know, she spends this a huge

(01:57:04):
amount of attention on her hair,you know, and you've seen that.
Oh, yeah. Like, even if she's bleeding or
something, she might not go to the doctor.
But if she loses her hair, she'sgoing there, You know, when
she's talking with, you know, Doctor Voodoo, you know, they're
having this back and forth almost like this clash of
ideology. But, you know, Storm smiles when
it's like, well, after all, you did help me with my hair, you

(01:57:26):
know, So. Yeah, so.
And. But now she has to lose the
hair, you know? And it's like, oh man.
So you just know that when next she sees those gods, they're
going to catch it. They're going to catch the full
ferry of storm. And then as she said at the end,

(01:57:46):
the end page is door coming downand saying I say the nay, where
are we? I got usually I could tell where
a story is going. Maria, we have been to outer
space. We have been to a swamp.
We have been to New Orleans likewe have been to San Francisco.

(01:58:07):
We have been all over the place.I don't like there's no name.
I guess Oblivion is a main protagonist, but Oblivion and
Storm haven't even met yet. They don't even know they're
they're fighting each other at this.
Point and. I'm like, where can this go?
We've heard the FBI is coming into stuff.

(01:58:29):
What are they doing? We got bigger things to worry
about. She's fighting gods about the
fight. What are the primordials like?
We the FBI is they're not even aa thing.
And then we have a mega maggot. What's that going to be?
Oh my goodness. So where is this story going to
go? Well, if you could tell us, I

(01:58:49):
don't want you to tell us one thing I will want to read one
thing I do want to request sincewe're adding in all these people
we added in Oh Mega maggot, we added in Frenzy, we heard Lucas
Bishop. I hope that this thing with her
grandmother finally gets resolved.
Well, his grandmother finally gets resolved in the future

(01:59:10):
being Storm because it was ambiguous in the comic book.
But there's one mutant I want tosee.
Her name is Astrid Bloom. She is the only telepath that is
black in comics and I think she's only one in Marvel who's
well besides Monet she is the only one who was purely a

(01:59:32):
Telegraph and she helped Emma define her powers and she's only
been seen in it in the Emma comic book.
I don't even know she was on Coca-Cola, but I really want to
see her again. I'm not telling you what to, I'm
not telling you what to do. I really would like to see her
again. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll see.

(01:59:56):
We'll get to see more charactersin the future.
In this next issue you're going to see Manifold and so.
Manifold is. One of.
My favorites. And they're not.
And it's not a visit that they're here to stay.
Just like, oh, mega Margot. So yeah, because Bishop is

(02:00:20):
coming in issue 10 and 11. Yeah.
So and Shango is there, you know, Yeah, that's all I can
say. Yeah.
So it's it's it's it's going to be a fun one.
We get to have more appearance of cool characters, you know,

(02:00:44):
especially characters of colour and stuff.
So yeah. Yes, I love, I love that how
you're putting a spotlight on characters of colour as well,
'cause this is a fever dream forme.
Like I'd be I, I really be having headaches after your
after reading your book, 'cause I'm like, how is he doing this?
And not only is he going all theway around the multiverse with

(02:01:08):
this comic book, he is making iteasy to read, fun to read,
exciting, exciting to read in like 22 pages.
And like so much stuff happens and they and, and it doesn't
seem, it seems like a 53 page book that is just in like 22
page. I don't know how you do it.

(02:01:29):
I don't know how you do it. So kudos, kudos, kudos.
But we are over our time by likea lot.
Like we can even do this fun little thing that we have
planned, but Oh my God. I still have time so don't
worry. OK, OK, OK, well, have you ever

(02:01:57):
played a game called Dungeons and Dragons?
Never. It's it's, it wasn't a thing in
here. Well, here we have a game called
Dungeon Dragons. It's a role-playing game, a
tabletop role-playing game whereyou can really pick your, pick

(02:02:21):
your adventure, choose your adventure, and it's all in the
mind and the imagination. You can and it has a variety of
races, have a variety of classeslike sorcerer, warrior, rogue,
and it's just really fun. So what we decided we would do

(02:02:42):
is take you on the little D&D trip that will really make you
kind of happy, hopefully, and tell you and like show you a
little bit about D&D. You say you're you're familiar.
You all just didn't have it. It wasn't really big where
you're from, Huh? Oh, thank.

(02:03:04):
You for? Yeah.
Sorry there. You go, you're back, Maria, You.
I think you had froze for a second there, you say.
It just wasn't really big where you are.
Hello. OK.
Can I hear you? Can you hear?
Me. Yeah.
We can hear you now. Yeah.
So it wasn't really big where you were, but you've heard of

(02:03:25):
it? You said yeah, I've heard of it.
OK, so we are going to do that now first things, so we got to
do a lot of the heavy lifting for you in the beforehand, but
we did want you to have some type of choice.
So we wanted you to choose what do you want to be a rogue, a

(02:03:45):
warrior or a sorcerer? If you need more, a little bit.
More about what those roles are like.
What like 'cause you? No, I'm cool.
You're like 3 different characters.
Oh oh. You're cool with Warrior?
OK, let me show you what your character looks like 'cause you

(02:04:07):
know, we did some of the heavy lifting behind the scenes, so
let me just see if this is it. Oops, I know.
While he's pulling that up, thisis going to be a super light
version of DND If you ever, you know, if we ever have the chance
to like play together, you know,for real.
It's like it's a lot more involved.
There are a lot more numbers, but we're going to, we're going

(02:04:28):
to keep it light more about moreabout the storytelling and, you
know, as fast space as we can get it.
So I missed that. I didn't hear you.
Oh sorry, I was just saying thatwhile just pulling that up.
This is going to be a much lighter version of the Dungeons
and Dragons. You know we Jared and I play on

(02:04:49):
the podcast and it usually takeslike 4 hours.
You. Know.
I know. Yeah, I know.
That's super long, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But this is going to be a live version of, you know, 10-15
minutes. That's what we're shooting for
here. You got other characters ready?
Yeah, I'm about to share my screen now, I think.

(02:05:12):
I think you'll like this character too.
Do it. This is your warrior.
You got to share my screen. And OK, here we go, This is the
warrior did. You use a picture of Maruela to

(02:05:35):
make. I did I.
Did. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
It is you. It is you, you say.
You. He's just a human warrior.
A fun human warrior. Now I wish I chose mage because

(02:05:55):
my choppiness would look better with a mage.
You want to choose Mage? Hold on.
So do you want to go back and choose Mage?
No, no, no. Let's leave it.
Let's leave it. You know, it might be
underestimated, you know? Is this Mufasa in the
background? Look.
Is that Mufasa in the clouds in the?
I can't control all of what the AI does.

(02:06:17):
No, no I didn't. I did not.
I did not. OK, so Jerry, who is well Maria,
first give a can you give your character a name?

(02:06:37):
Oh, let's call him Mufasa. I was calling fucker.
Great. All right, Jerry and your
character. I just say that it's Kyruthro,
my all right favorite DND character.
I've been playing for 10 years. All right, And Kyruthro is a

(02:06:59):
mage. The Kyrutho is a storm sorcerer.
Like Storm How? Dare you?
How dare you. How dare you.
OK, great. Great.
Let me get back to the beginningof this.

(02:07:22):
All right, So you wake up behindbars in a cell, solid brick
walls behind your back, bars in front of you.
You can see through the bars. There are other bars and other
cells you can from what you can see up and down this hallway and

(02:07:44):
straight across from you, you are, you are, and you know, you
know where you are. You are in the cells of the Iron
Hole detention pit deep below the town of Vexmere, you know,
and you were caught smuggling magic items in.
There was no trial. There was no investigation.

(02:08:05):
They, they caught you. They, they, they, they, they
apprehended you. They said you did this thing,
threw you in jail. What do you do from here,
Marueva? And so, you know, in D&D you can
pretty much do anything you like.
And how we decide if you succeedor fail is with dice rolls.

(02:08:30):
And you know, if you want to roll the dice yourself, you can
pull up. Oh, are you going to just pull
up? Jared yeah, I'll put it up.
I'll just do it in Google. Yeah.
So this is, yeah, just use, you can use Google to do any number
of dice rolls, which I learned like after I started playing DED
online, I was like, oh, this is pretty cool.
OK, I so do I see what I want todo now?

(02:08:54):
Yeah, yes, yes, please. What do you want to do?
So I tried to seduce a female guard to framing.
OK, OK. You're going to try to.
Seduce something so. So you're, you're not in your
armor, you're sort of just in these plain clothes.
You don't have any of your usualweapons or accoutrements.

(02:09:18):
Better for us to do there. Are there are guards who you've
seen that walk up and down the cell that come and check on the
prisoners every now and again? And at this time a female guard
is coming in and she's bringing your dinner.
So you're assuming it's late in the day.
She comes in, she lays the tray down.
She's, she's also a human tall, you know, a bit, a bit bulky,

(02:09:45):
you know? What do you mean she's human?
Are you sure? I'm not used to like elves and,
you know, weird stuff. I.
Mean they are, they are, they are there are elves there,
Everything you know. What happens?
A couple of tentacles. Really.
Hey, this ain't that story. I see.
Where you going? And this ain't that.

(02:10:08):
Why? Why you say human?
How dare you say human like you're really on the old phone.
We'll, we'll make her a Dragonborn.
You're right, you're right. Let's, let's, let's, let's get
you as much of the DND experience as we can.
So she's a dragonborn, you know,from what you can tell, you
know, she has a sword, she has armor on bronze scales, you

(02:10:30):
know, dragon like face, but bipedal.
So she walks on 2 legs and she has a tail.
She's she's, you know, a bit robust.
You can tell that she is used tofighting.
She, she's a warrior. You know, she she has the
similar bill to yourself. So she comes in, she lays the
food down, she says to you dinner time.

(02:10:53):
So what do you, what do you say to her to to begin to try this
seduction of yours? I I why do mine sounds a little
too dirty about dinner time. Well, I would like to have more

(02:11:17):
than this for dinner. I like that.
And so she she was just like, Sowhat would you, what would you
want? There's you're a prisoner, so
you're not much in a place to make requests.
So do you want to make a die roll to see if she would succumb

(02:11:40):
to? Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah. So, yeah, we can do.
We can do a little role play right now.
So you say, you say you want more than this for dinner.
She gives you a little push back.
What do you do? You say something else.
Do you do you try to touch her through the bars?

(02:12:07):
I take the food, boy. You know, I still keep eye
contact, you know, trying to continue the conversation.
Yeah. OK, OK, listen.
And so we'll, we'll roll for persuasion because that's, I
feel like that in in D&D there are a bunch of different skills
like how persuasive you are, howstealthy you are, how

(02:12:28):
intimidating you are, how strongyou are.
So let's use persuasion to see if you can, you know, maintain
an eye contact and letting this this Dragonborn jailer.
No, you know you want more than this for dinner.
OK, she says, rolling AD 20, 14.OK. 14 That's pretty good.

(02:12:51):
That's pretty good. So she, she says to you, she she
sort of like looks around and she says, well, I can come back
later and give you more than youcan handle.
Let you or I can open this door right now.

(02:13:16):
Let's go with opening the door right now.
OK, OK, so she pulls out a key, she opens the door, steps into
the cell, closes the door behindher, and starts to like, unlatch
her armor. What are you going to do?
I'm going to have you. I'm going to have before you,

(02:13:37):
before you say what you do from this point, I'm going to have
you look around. So we're going to do another
perception check this time. So this is to see what else you
can see in this sort of jail, inthis jail cell while you're here
in this prison. OK, rolling for a Perception 17.

(02:13:58):
OK, OK, pretty good. Also pretty good.
So while she's undoing her armor, you notice another figure
not directly across from you, but in the sail to the right,
sort of like huddled in the corner, also dressed similarly
to yourself, just like a plainclothes.
This one has like a little hood up and sort of like squeeze up

(02:14:19):
into the corner. Already has his dinner and it's
sort of like eating. But the jailer is in front of
you. She's starting to undo some of
her armor. What do you what do you want to
do now? I would reach for a weapon.
You're trying to get her weapon.OK, go ahead and I'm going to
roll another D20 for your athletics check to see how

(02:14:42):
quickly you can get to get to her because she has the only
weapon in the room. So how quickly can you get to
her and grab the weapon? OK, Roman D20 natural twin,
that's. Pretty good.
So not only do you get over to her, you rush her, you grab her

(02:15:04):
sword out of her belt, but you're able to, you know,
restrain her and put the sword at her throat so she's
completely at your mercy now, she says.
So you don't have to do this, you can.
You can just leave. The door is still unlocked.

(02:15:27):
And then I become a boondocks character and I'm like, I still
want that booty. So, OK, OK.
I'm living. I'm living.
Living. OK, So, Kyruthro, you now you,

(02:15:52):
you hear this commotion and you see what's starting to happen
over there in, in Mufasa's cells.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, OK, great, great.
So you're, you're, you're leaving, you're walking out and
you, you see Mufasa start to make his way out of the jail.

(02:16:13):
Yeah. And I'm just going to say hey,
hey, let me out too. Let me out too.
Do I let him out? Oh, is that a question?
Yeah, it's from you. He's talking to you.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
So I'm like, yeah, get yourself out of Joe yourself.
I'm living. You throw him the key, All

(02:16:35):
right? So he throws you the key, Jared.
He throws Kyrie through the key and he keeps making his way out.
OK, and I'm going to I'm going to catch up with him because he
seems strong and he seems able to do things that I can't sound
be like, hey, Mr. don't leave mebehind.
OK, OK, OK. And from here, you guys walk to

(02:16:58):
the end of the prison, open the door, and you open the door into
a room, like an office room filled with about two other
guards. Yeah.
And we're going to, we're going to stop it right there because
it's like 2. Make yourself.

(02:17:22):
Useful mage. Yes, yes, yes.
That's just a little sample of what D&D is.
We just thought that would be something fun for us to do
something. Yeah, that was fun.
That was fine. OK, Maraya, I know that we've
talked a lot about Storm. Are there any spoilers that you

(02:17:46):
can give us even though I don't really want any because you you
have? We're, we're, we're, we're
building up to a story arc. You know, we've not had, we've
had story arcs. Basically every issue has its
own title, which I I like. But for issue 10 to issue 12,

(02:18:12):
we're going to have a story arc for the first time and it's
going to be the Thunder War arc.So all the stories we're doing,
we're building up to what's to the Thunder War, and it's going
to involve the Storm Gods in theMarvel Universe.

(02:18:32):
All of them, all it's going to, it's going to involve Galactus
as well. It's going to involve Eternity.
It's going to involve Oblivion, you know, all these entities,
you know, are we going to see this role Storm is going to
play, you know, compared to them, you know, yeah.

(02:18:54):
So that's the story. Like I'm like really, really
excited about. I can't wait for people to check
out in in the upcoming issue that's issue 8.
Tom is going to get a new hairdo.
Now that she caught her hair, she's going to get a new

(02:19:14):
hairstyle. So we should look forward to
that. So let's see what else I think
that's why I can reveal. And after issue 12, we're going

(02:19:35):
to start seeing stumbling more into dark magic and its
consequences. Note the word consequences.
So yeah. So yeah, it's, it's it's it's
it's it's gets really fun. It gets really exciting.

(02:19:57):
And get ready for some cool locations you know as you've
seen. Since the beginning of this
story you know well it's going to very cool locations you know
so we're going to go to some some cool realms, pockets,
dimensions and also some cool locations on Earth like
Madropore so let's go to Madropore.

(02:20:23):
The mutant kit initial 1 is coming back.
OK yeah. So it's it's it's gets really,
really fun, really, really exciting.
The drama intensifies a lot. Yeah.
And like you said, you know, you're seeing a lot of plot
points, you know, like the Thunder gods.

(02:20:46):
Oh, oblivion. Oh, the FBI stuff.
Oh, the political this, you know, I get to see all of them
start, you know, even dark magicthing, you know, because Doctor
Voodoo said, you know, are you really going to explore this
part of your life? You know, we keep hearing, you
know, the sentence of a Shaquille, you know, share blood

(02:21:06):
with like a mode. So, you know, this is going to
come into play, you know, you know, So I guess that's enough
of this. Plot points gradually weave
together, break apart, weave together back again, you know,
So yeah, it's going to be nice. This one in the L Fire video.

(02:21:33):
There's going to be a very cool revelation in the FIR video that
people should not miss. OK, we're going to.
Reveal the name of someone special in our future.
So that's that's that's that's very nice.
So yeah. Yeah.
That's more. Than I.

(02:21:55):
Expected. That's yeah, that's that's a
lot. And I if the past seven episodes
are any indication, the next 7 episodes are issues.
I'm thinking episodes issues arefurther indication that I don't
know what's happening, but I'm going to love it.
I'm going to need it. And I remember in the letters

(02:22:16):
section you were saying that yousometimes feel like an imposter.
Well, you're not an imposter, Sir.
You are a legend because this cover is legendary is going down
in history. I cannot wait until the trade
comes out so I can buy one for everybody that wants to read
something and say what color should I read?

(02:22:37):
Here you go, Here you go. Because this book is so good.
I've never read a book like thisever, not even Blue Marvel.
This book is so good and it's ongoing and I did not see other
things. And so I went back and read it.
And now that I, I, I see, I, I, I, I am noticing your mind.

(02:22:57):
It is so amazing but follows on social media spill black energy
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Did you know the mic is that we had a Patreon?

(02:23:18):
Absolutely we do and that is where we play DND.
So if you want to hear more likethe segment we just did with
Morella, go ahead and post on myPatreon.
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You downgrade from a large coffee to a small, and that's
our Patreon right there. Yeah, yeah.

(02:23:39):
All right, DeMarcus, we had a very long, very insightful, very
powerful conversation today. Any final thoughts?
Man, put Storm in your pool listso that you have an issue
waiting for you when you go to the comic book store.
Because when they sell out, it'shard to get another one.
And you don't want to have to bestealing issues from other

(02:24:00):
people like I did. No more issues.
I'm getting everyone each month it drops.
And, you know, this story is so much more.
It's there's so much more depth in this story than I thought.
And I'm glad we're able to have you on the show again to talk
about the, you know, everything that you've been writing.
Marrero, thank you so much for coming on.

(02:24:22):
And that's it. Yeah, that's it.
I've, I've said all I can say. Maria, you are a legend going
down in Marvel history. You have to be.
I see you in the future consulting on movies like
business because you, you are doing what nobody else could do
with this character. Nobody else could do this.

(02:24:43):
And many have tried to. Do it.
Yeah, we all would do. But X-Men is coming up and
they're going to need some consulting.
They're going to need it. So yeah, I think that's all I
have to say. We'll see you next time on Black
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