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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello everyone, my friends, I'm Kayla, and I'm Kristen and
I'm Nikki, and this.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
And if this is your first time, you're the show. Friend,
Welcome and hello. I actually forgot to say that last episode.
I've never forgotten to say that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I know, I was just fight it. We we're back.
Welcome everyone. I feel a little bit like Cocaugh today,
but you know that's all right. We're gonna make it
through here, so let's just get right into it. Her,
I forgot to about an intro, because you know, sometimes
I do. I'm not perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But as you guys can see, this beautiful, gorgeous girl woman,
actually she's a woman in this picture. I thought I
was a Hollyberry child Christmas, So who to Halleyberry? No,
that's Matries Richardson, and she's so gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And so beautiful, and she's also not here with us anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh what's her name?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Tries? Okay, h Tree. She went missing in two thousand
and nine and wasn't found until twenty ten. Very sad.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
A lot of issue, a lot of speculation, a lot
of WTF.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Surrounding her disappearance. So join us today, you guys, as
we discussed what happened to our girl, matries, Sir Trees recipes.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
This reminds me of the girl from a long time
ago in the other country.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think it was like UK or something.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yes, she was o yeaes and.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
She like was knocked out, beat up something.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I remember. I just can't Remembernie. I
can't remember her name. Was she reminded of her? Yeah?
She was so cute. All right, let's get to mutrise,
all right. What happened baby?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Latrees was born on Tuesday, April thirtieth, nineteen eighty five,
and Los Angeles preor two parents, Latis Sutton.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And Michael Richardson. From what I read, they weren't like
actually really together, but they both loved their daughter. She
hasn't been forty this year. Oh she would have been.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
She spent the bulk of her life being raised in Covina,
California by her mom and her stepdad. Mctrese attended South
Hills High School in West Covina, and after graduating, she
went to California State University in Fullerton.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's same, she's served poppins these teams. Sure, she has
some fun girls. She is so cute. She's a fun girl.
She is cute. I love always looks like a play bunny. Yeah,
she's hot. Facts shouts you matries.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So she went to California State University in Fullerton and
graduated with her bachelor's degree in psychology in two thousand
and eight.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Okay, but that one of those. I do I do
have one of those. She had a lot going on
and she had a lot of interest. She could dance,
She competed in a beauty pageant. She worked as an
intern for a forensic psychologist. W yeahyla, I did. Okay,
sounds incredible to me. And she was also working part
(03:43):
time as a dancer at strip club. It's okay, Well
that's the only thing you didn't do then.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I don't know about, but you'd be shaking it.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I love the strip club.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But I've never been like on a powd oh. Matrise
was such an objectively beautiful girl. But according to the
people that loved her the most, she was beautiful inside
and out. Her obituary inscription online said, in memory of
our daughter, sister, niece, granddaughter, great granddaughter, hours for a
little while with Jesus forever.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Amen. I just love that they included Jesus. Look at her.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
She's just the everyday girls.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
She went to the same camp we went to in Florida.
Oh no girl O caamp decisions. Yeah, she's so cute.
A lot of people like just like to immediately condemn
LGBTQ to hell, but not her family. Matrisea lived her
life openly as a gay woman, and she was even
(04:44):
in a committed relationship with her girlfriend Testimon for about
two years. At the time of her disappearance. Matre I
didn't say that they beautiful, really beautiful stud Today she's
the stud well, she has her read lots.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
She her lineup was fresh and cut as I'm all
get out, with no salce on it.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Beautiful face, but she will.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Say, and with her Sadden blue drawl showing and all
that stuff, she opened the door for me and I said, hey,
your hair is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
She said, thank you, appreciate that a lot. You're beautiful too,
beauty beautiful, Nick.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I don't know, so let's get into this because nothing
after this is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
What Ter says, But her smile is beautiful, smile so gorgeous.
How many pictures are putting here her? Oh? She's just
really a stunner. Alrighty, here we go.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
On Wednesday, September sixteenth, two thousand and nine, when Ries
left her house in La to go to a restaurant
in Malibu called Jeffrey's Restaurant.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I heard of.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It, mom, I hear the irons been around the block.
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Speaker 2 (06:56):
So Jeffries is in a short drive with traffic, it
can take between forty five minutes to an hour and
a half to get there.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What's she going to me?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's what I'm saying. This must be a pretty important sinner.
And if you're on Patreon, you can see a copy
of the receipt showing that one drink was ordered, a
sixty five hour steak and then valet parking period.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Day only reasonable thing in this valet, I know, right, we.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Talked about that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You can also see what time the meal was hat
so at seven forty pm, and how many guests were
present that night, which was two And we don't know
if that's like actually true, but we do know, you know, yeah,
and they split their bill because she only paid for
her It seems like if she was with someone else, right,
So we don't really know about that. Sometimes they just
(07:42):
put two and it's not really too According to witnesses,
while Matrise was eating at the restaurant, her behaviors started.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Becoming increasingly odd. What and when the time came to
pay for her meal, she was like, I guess refusing to.
She was a way for her meal, refusing to and
then apparently she couldn't pay.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So the staff at Jeffrey's were like trying to help her,
giving her like different options.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Of payment and stuff like that. They made multiple attempts
to close her tab out, but the situation became more
about her personal safety than like paying her bill. What
haven't We're gonna get to it. We're gonna get to
more of a description of what people said happened. But
it's not for a while. So hanging there, y'all, Oh,
let me think about this.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's already right, yeah, So the staff decided to call
the police for help. When officers arrived at the scene,
Matrise was given a sobriety test and she passed it.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Okay, I won't drinking rue comtail.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But it started to get weirder when officers asked Matrise
if she had.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Any health issues. She told them no, but when they
checked her car, apparently there were multiple prescription bottles inside,
a little under an ounce of marijuana and an inhaler.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Issues. She came, breeze, she's smoking.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't know whose names were on those prescription bottles,
and it never really came out. I didn't see it
in my research at all. So it's already red flagging
to me.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
She's a littless in the ouse, a little lesson. Where
was she going? She was, I'm not, but we're gonna
talk about some of my theories at least. But here
we go again.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
As you say, she can't crisis, you'll never mind, mom
said her quote. Her best phrase in high school was
kissed my a.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
She would tell the boys all day long, where you
can kiss my a?
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Why did you lie to us and tell us you
didn't cut so that you wouldn't and my past is
I'm the bloods you did give it?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Period?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Hilarious? Why the way anyway?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I want to know whose pill bottles those were in
her exactly. The arresting officer, his name was Armando Lurierio
no Matter, decided that although she was showing signs of
mental distress and should have been evaluated.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
By a professional, he just decided to take her to
the station. Did you did she act on need to
get out of that bill? No, she was acting lonely.
That's why they called them the first place, because they
want to help her with the bill. They were trying
to figure out a way.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I think it's important to note that Armando was
at the end of a double shift that day, so
he was.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Already he was tied over it and trip off this.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
When she was originally booked into the jail, she was
booked on felony charges.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
For paying her tab fela is bedtime, no burglary charges,
ridiculous as right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
He then moved a death point over someone as.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Some zero CHRISTI said he must have been. That's hilarious,
because how you give me a break?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But it was later lowered to a misdemeanor charge of
failure to pay an innkeeper. Yeah, and possession of under
an ounce of marijuana.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So you know somebody somebody caught it, yeah, thank god.
So there was communication going on between patrol cars that
were involved in Matriesa's arrest after she was dropped off
at the station.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
All okay, And thanks to a very thorough couckage journalist
named C. C.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Woods, we have some of the transcripts from those conversations.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So it looks like a little like click click clack
or whatever they type it on our little computers.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Whatever they're using code. I had to decipher it. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
One of them says, I think this is the arresting officer.
He goes he has to go back to the station
to initiate a fem Searchum, sarch.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
She gonna check her coolie coops. That's what I'm thinking.
That I means, what which is? It's against protocol.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
There's no reason for you to go back there. There's
other women at the station. Yeah, you're a little bit gross.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And he'd been not checking anyway. What he's a checking for?
The ounce is in the car? What else you checking for?
I have no councess. She had a balloon up there
and that exploded and then that's what cracked her out. Yeah,
and behavior, but.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You would jump to something in her coochie cat.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
They don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
They definitely searched her person before even putting her in
the car, so it's like, why do you need to
return to.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Fem check her. I don't fim search her. I don't
like that doesn't sound good.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Then someone replies two minutes later saying, quote, you're at
the end of a double what you get? And then
he says he arrested her for being unable to pay.
And then someone responded, why didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You help us a stout? So this is very unseerious talk.
And then once you hear I'm getting ahead of my
getting ahead of myself because then was cute. He'd been
not had done none to her? Right? Who was cute?
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Matriesa Ye beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So Matrisa was booked into the Lost Hills station, but
she wasn't in custody long and against Latsia's wishes, which
is Matriesa's mom, they released her back on the street
at around midnight.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It was like twelve thirty eight pm. Mama was like,
don't do that. Yes, dangerous, right, but like, where's a mom? Huh?
Her mama did? She was trying to get there.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, she's already an hour hour half away from
the house, and her mom was aware that she was
having like some type of mental health issue, because that's
what the claims were, that she was freaking out and stuff,
and she's had she struggled with a little bit of
like depression and stuff in the past. So her mom's
already on alert. She said, hey, can you please keep her?
You know, but she's an adult, can't necessarily keep her.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And she just is released with no money, no phone.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, her car has been towed, so she has no
transportation to get somewhere safe in the middle of the night,
in a.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Place she has she's never been. Armando did it? Arman.
I don't even remember his name. He's so wrote, okay,
and this is at midnight. They kept her almost one am.
Why they keep her phone? I don't know. I don't
know where her phone was. I don't know if she
got lost when she was at Jeffrey's. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay, but this is very careless and like irresponsible. If
you can see someone in distress, you.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Don't you don't go, especially when the mom's calling you
and pleading for you to keep her. Right unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So at this point, It's September seventeenth, the early hours
of the morning, and Matrees is nowhere to be found.
Five hours later, homeowners in the Montenito neighborhood of Dark
Canyon called police, saying that they had seen a woman
on their property and this woman matched Matrisa's description, so
a patrol car was sent out reportedly searched the area.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm like, God, I can't see her.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I turned my head twice, didn't find her, and then
just left.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So it's like, how far could Matries really get in
that timeframe from that call to and you don't you don't.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
See her, And then imagine like the mom exactly already
out on the streets trying to find her.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Funally right, and that's fishit.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
There were two more alleged sidings of her on the seventeenth,
which is the day after she was arrested. One person
said they saw her walking on Malibu Canyon Road at
around seven thirty am, and someone else said they saw
someone matching her description walking on Payoma Road at around
one thirty pm.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So she's been out that long.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Because she will somebody. She asked somebody because she used
a phone do something.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
You know, she could have knocked on doors. What's a restaurant?
What your guys? Stay? She look this, this, this, you
know something?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
And she was black way you walking too far away
from nowhere and not not where where.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I don't know where I'm at. If I'm at the
police station, you let me go. Can I have a
phone call?
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Like?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Can I call my parents? Something?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
And it's supposed to be a safe Hey man, I'm
gonna stay. You're until my mom comes.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You make me leave you no, orno, something's off and
she's having a mental health episode, remember you guys. You
know sometimes when you're struggling like that, you just you
lose track. You just literally walk Sotriesa's helping fast. But
there were people that were actively lying and impeding the
(16:51):
search for Matrees from the job. Oh my god, most
of which were law enforcements. Yep, because who is surprised? Charker, Charker.
According to a jailer named Sharon Cummings, who can be
seen on camera in the booking area with Matries, she
claimed that she escorted Matries to the front of the
station to use the payphone before her release and Matries
(17:13):
could call her grandmother.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, but not only did Matri's grandmother receive phone records
from the company saying she received no calls from the jail,
but there isn't even a working payphone in the lobby
of the station.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
So she lied. She lied, She got to lie face,
so it's a it's a thick, blatant lie. You don't
get that confused. No, she lied.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And this jailor, who is a black woman, I might add,
I think I have a picture of her, well the back.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Of her, but that's her, and that's her with matries.
What putting her in the cell?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What she's gonna sit there and lie for a was shit? Carsel? Yeah,
she's the jailer.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Law enforcer? Oh yeah, yes, mom, she is, you know,
law enforcer at the jail at least, well she's not
like the the person over everybody, but but still, and you.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Should protect a person like that because they're gonna fact
check where at the payphone, dummy?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Where is the phone? Where's the phone?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They did get our girl on camera holding a paypholl
like a phone or whatever in her hand, but she's
never seen dialing, so she never placed the actual call.
And if the phone on work, she couldn't have placed.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The phone exactly case. Who got payphones these days? Well,
this was two thousand and nine. I don't know. It's
a jail.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
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Okay, back to the episode, Tui was the head of
Malibu Search and Rescue at the time, and let's just.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Say, you know, we hate him.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
According to Mtrees's mentor, a clinical psychologist named doctor Roda Hampton,
Tui was showing his booty crack from the very beginning.
She said he was behaving in an extremely suspicious way.
First of all, Matriesa is a mentor, that's a psychologist, period,
Because she's mm hmm yeah. So for example, during the
(21:04):
initial search for Matries, the canines were dispersed and had
eventually caught onto Matrisa's sent.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Okay, so yeah, happy, yeah, take us tour. Yeah nope.
Two we pulled them immediately.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh my god, them and had them stop searching. And
mind you, they picked up her sent on the first day,
the first day she's missing. The dogs will scheduled to
be there for two days. But why why because we
opted to not have them returned because they were quote
(21:37):
too tired. Christen, this is so bad. This is really
it gets worse, but this.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Is so bad. Who in they're right mine? If you're
not guilty, why on God's green earth would you do that?
And then you wonder why people don't want to call
the car. This is unbelievable. And he's not even a
like no long like yeah, I don't they have a brotherhood,
you know, he's a part of He's a part of
(22:09):
it for sure, because he's a sergeant or whatever.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
This is like God the day do theynge lady, dirty dogs, unbelievable,
despising rabbits.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
There's a lot more, okay, a lot more injustice, but
let's get to something else. First, we have to get
to Monday, August ninth.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Twenty ten, and that's the day that Matriesa's mamma five
remains were found in a remote area in Dark Canyon
at around four pm.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Mama, fid you did been missing the year? Yeah, she
had been missing over a year. Bless her.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So I said it was four pm. But I also
read somewhere that her body was found around one pm.
So it was just found. It was found on that
day in the afternoon. Apparently it wasn't too far from
where she.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Was last seen either.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We have a map so you can see, like down
in the corner of the map where it says last
known sighting of Matrees, which is when she was walking
up that Puma Road at one point thirty on September seventeenth,
and then boom, her remains are found.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Like less than what is it? Probably less than five
miles okay low from where she was last seen.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Wow, it's sad. This is really really sad. And look
at the terrain too, like this is a this is
hill country, this is not pretty remote. Her body was
reportedly found during a patrol of the pot growing areas
by the marijuana eradication team whatever, like, Okay, I think
(23:41):
they're really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Triggered yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, dunbay.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, anti eradication. But usually there's like police officers that
are involved with this in their spare time or whatever.
But no actual police officers were involved this day. And
I say that because I read a lot of in
a lot of places. They wanted to make that very clear.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
No police officers were involved on this day when her
body was found.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And good thank the law because I've probably been there.
They would have covered up even more. Her body never
would have been found.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And now I'm thinking about you know, our marrying they
were searching the marijuana area. You know, our girl had
a little lesson announce on her, so maybe she's a
little bit more familiar with the area than we know.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Like, you know, you just never know what if she
was selling and we just don't know and something happened,
you know, she was taken.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
There's too many possibilities. Maybe she was taken there. I genuinely,
you guys, I have no clue what happened to her. And
then it makes me want to think about immediately what
the autopsy results were, like how did she die? What happened?
But they were found to be inconclusive. God, her cause
of death was undetermined.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Want everybody in Cahouf And how does she get all
the way there from she walked that far? She walked
that far? Nope, she did not, She did not walk
that far. And then they were able that's those twenty
miles I read.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And another thing, they were able to grow marijuana that
close to the command posts.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well that's a whole other thing, because we know how
they act mad but benefit from it. It's just stupid really.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
So the family was notified immediately, but not by the police.
They were notified by like search and rescue helpers, like
they had victim advocates that work with them, and one
of the victim advocates I reached out. The family then
reached out to the police to confirm that the remains
were in fact matries, and the lead detective, named Lieutenant
Mike Rosen completely brushed them off.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
He said that the findings were just a few.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Bones, quote a few bones, and didn't give them any
information about where the remains were found, how.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
They could get there, gave them nothing.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It just going on what they kind of gets that babyman.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
They honestly, honestly when I bring this up. I want
to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
There was a theory that they tried to throw out
there that she was a prostitute. She was prostitute in
and you know, they probably judge her from that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
She's black, I don't even know, in a.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Restaurant, looking good, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Like she was not a pro having a moment, you know,
and they take her to somewhere and then let her
go and then she dies and she's having a mental
health like crisis.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Man, the police department would be in the red to
this day.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That should have sued them for absolutely.
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(27:19):
are being more helpful and finding Matrise and giving her
family closure than the police were. They were actually making
it a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Worse the police were.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And we'll continue to Oh but wait until you hear
that Matrise's body could have been found over six months earlier.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, so remember when she was lasting in the Dark
Canyon area.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, well, naturally the plan is to search the area
that she was last seeing. Yeah, and a few months
after her disappearance, the Search and Rescue had a drone
in the air searching that area and TWI toy again,
good old.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Towiy intention.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Poopy, So we intentionally redirected the drone away from the
area that Matesa's body would be found in.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
He knew about it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh, it's literally like he fine, Yeah, we're gonna get
to the mark on day right, this right, they chose
this woman to say, yeah, we want her, she is good.
Let's let's let's do what we whatever we want to do,
(28:33):
because we can do whatever we want to do and
then get rid of her.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And doctor Rondo was actively asking him, Doctor Ronda, remember
is Matesa's mentor.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
She's actively asking him, why aren't you sitting in the
drone in that area?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And his reply was Oh, we'll get to it eventually.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
But that's what she was last saying, and he's stuck
on stupid and he and they still didn't find Remember
the search and rescue people didn't even find it. These
are marijuana or whatever. They were doing other stuff. Well,
search and rescue wasn't even trying to find it. That's
the whole day, Doctor Ronda and Matreesa's family, while obviously
(29:14):
processing their loss, because hello, they had to work hard
to find out what happened to Matris because it.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
What should never have to work hard to find out
what happened to your deceased family member.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, somebody else should be doing concluding to the need
to do it.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
They're getting paid to literally find out what happened to
your daughter, and they are not doing so. And something
stuck out to me that happened way before Matesa's remains
were found. It happened actually days after she disappeared. So
doctor Rondo went to Sheriff Lee Baka, who was the
active sheriff at the time, and told him, like, hey, corruption,
I'm smelling already.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Why is Materesa's case not being taken seriously? It's actually being.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Grossly mishandled, and he said, yes, I agree with you.
I feel like a lot of my guys mishandled her disappearance.
And he also went as far as even say that
he thinks she might have been murdered.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Oh so the true Shane Devil. Does anybody have?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
That?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Says a recording. Right, And this is days after she
has been missing missing. You know, usually they try to
tell you, oh.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
She's twenty four, she's young and free. You know, she
probably just give it a couple.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
More days you'll hear from her. No, he straight up said,
you know, I think she was murdered. That's a big deal. Yeah,
because he.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Knows, and that's admitting, like, hey, we're we're looking into
a murder.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You know, he could have said, maybe she's suicide in herself. No,
he went straight to murder. That stuck out to me. Wow,
because he knew something. Maybe your guys. Yeah, Yeah, it's
not good. I don't like it. I don't like I
don't like it at all. I don't like it at all.
This case, it's really bad. Like when Matesa's family showed
(30:51):
up to where the remains were found, officers wouldn't let
them anywhere near it. And I'm like, okay, active crime scene,
right kind of get that part.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
But they told him they should come back tomorrow because
that's when they be removing Matriesa's body from the area.
But the family decided to stay anyway because they felt
that they was getting the run around.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, and gave them overnight to do what put somebody
else there? Yeah, So they stayed until after dark and
saw them helicopter something away that to them looked like
it could have been mat And then you get to
have my deceased person's body, like you get to keep it,
(31:30):
and you got the note to tell me I can't
see the body. Yes, Like that would blow me.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
They already crooked for me in the jail, poor Louie Dooey.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Whatever his name is, and he's all the stupid duck.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
He'd been a distraction, he's he messed with evidence, he's
doing all this stuff. And you want me to leave
you and trust you, I'm come back.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Who do you think I am? And this is my daughter.
I'm surprised they didn't throw a grenade out there get
rid of options.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
So of course Ma Teresa's family has done everything they
can from making websites and Facebook pages, writing letters, making
phone calls. They called the mayor a number of times.
The mayor act like he couldn't be bothered. Congresswoman Maxine
Waters herself requested an FBI probe into Matreesa's disappearance. Thank you,
there was a fifteen thousand dollars reward that was offered
(32:32):
from the city of Malibu saying, hey, you know, help
us find her. I mean there were a lot of
eyes on Materesa's case, just not the right ones.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, not the ones I would actually make sure it
got solved because it's smelled like a cover up.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Real bad, definitely, And I'm not saying that Matrise was without.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Her own issues. So that the point.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Now we're going to kind of get into what our
girl was going through and what she may have been
dealing with at the time. Okay, so our girl was
struggling with her mental health, real bad.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
According to her mom, the night that she disappeared.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Latise told officers that Matrise was depressed and may have
been in a depressive state that night, but her mom
also confirmed that she wasn't taking any medication at that
time to treat anything, which brings.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Us back to the pills. Why maybe maybe she took
some pills and that's why she was acting, you know,
so girlfriend, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I don't think her girlfriend was there with her that night.
It definitely would have come up at my research if
a day if she was. So there's a theory that
Matrise may have been experiencing her first manic episode that
night and may have started to have onset signs of
bipolar disorder.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
That night, according to witnesses, she told people she was
from Mars.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And was speaking in like a made up language. She
told a vallet guy that she was there to avenge
Michael Jackson staff.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Now when they paid to say this, I don't know
if the police a couple of everything else, Maybe they didn't,
were circling back around and gave them a tip to
say that.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Her mom she was having she was at That's why
they called the police in the first place.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Jump yeah, couldness. I don't know what they could have done,
because if she got back in the car and went
her own way, who knows that she still would have
been in danger.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
She was upset when a group of people she was
talking to, like at the dinner, didn't offer to pay
for her when she couldn't pay, so she was like,
you know, I'll hear you a kinpe of thing.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't know. I don't know what she was doing.
This is what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Another guy said that she was flirting with his male friend,
and when her dad heard that.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
He's like immediately no, like she's highly lesbian.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
It's not like her stupid and she wanted to pay
for her bill and you didn't, and you didn't you
completely You.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Could have say that, yeah, you could think.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Okay, And manic episodes are like loitered with impulsive, big,
often out of character types of moments like that, so
it's it's possible. She went on, and then mental health
professionals got a hold of Matriesa's journal. Ooh, apparently Matrese
hadn't slept for almost five nights before the night she
(35:25):
was arrested.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
What was going on, honey? And she spent the last
five days calling and texting her friends strange things. She
was like posting things out of character on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
She was kind of spamming her posts, you know, like
when you post a bunch. So it was just she.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Was out of character. She was apparently living out of
her car.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, I broke over with her girlfriend at this point,
what happened baby?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, what happened to a baby girl? I know, it's
really sad. And she wasn't homeless.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
She apparently she wasn't home, but her friend said it
wasn't abnormal for her to live out of her car for.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Days on end. Oh, she had some issues then, because
people don't do that. She was struggling. Yeah, I hate
that for you.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
And it seemed to like be unraveling so fast, you know,
like it was hitting her like a ton of bricks.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah. When her dad saw her mugshot, he said, quote,
she looked like a demon had come inside her. That
was not my daughter. It ran chills up my spine.
I've never seen my.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Daughter look like that. Oh hot, we have a picture
of her mu shot. I don't you know what, let's
just google it. Can you google it for me? Although
the LAPD says there is no foul play, the la
s D, which is that, no, the.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Long Hill people whatever, losers, you find it. Christen found it.
Hold on, we're looking at Matriesa's mugshot.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Now she looks tired, tired. Oh, she looks like she's battling. Oh,
she was not in a good way.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah she was, Oh she was not in a good way,
poor thing. Yeah, she was struggling and it had been
for a little while.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, and it looks like she was still warring. She
still had a little glint in her eye though, like, yeah,
she was just pretty Yeah, but she's hurting godly.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
So yeah, the l a p D don't think that
any foul play happened. I don't care what they think
anything like what they think, I just don't care.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You l a p D is not the people that
were in charge of the initial.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Investigation.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Well who let her go from the post office, that's
the Long Hill office.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
The police, They might as well be post off.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I think that flight is called the Long Hill SHAREFFS,
Lost Seals, Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Okay, and then have stupid too again and behind to
wait is the Search and Rescue, Search and rescue head
or whatever. He's a piece of crass.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So the LPD decided to step in, and they felt
like there was no foul play. Yes, that's what they
came up with from what they had, which was nothing,
because who was going to give it to him? Long
hair and to it show what you're going to back
your own people. So obviously you don't feel like there
(38:25):
was foul play. The only evidence at this point in
her case that really would have been found, I think
is in her car, yeah, and on her body and suspiciousness.
As to why they let her go when they feel.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Like she needed an evaluation, well that I feel like
that's lazy, just super lazy police work. Like we said,
the guy that in took her, that was he washed
his hands, cleaned of it. He wanted to double back
and do a fill check, fill her up, get him
a little nookie before he went to sleep, because he
had them be like shift you see like nine eight
(39:00):
percent men in hell. Oh, I'm just saying I believe that.
Oh yeah, just as bad. But they're not.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
They don't have the same type of nastiness perforations.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I feel like men have to fight to be not animals.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, I feel there's an animalistic.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
And disgusting it's for some men are.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Discussing why I used to say that the dog was
the last animal, then God created men after the dog.
But that's so wrong because that is not biblical. But
that was just what I used to say. Well, but
it's not true.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
It comes then comes I mean true in the image
of the.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You ate that dog on apple animal jumped up in man.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Take off animal, don't jumped man. Yeah, this stuff just talking.
It's just sad though. Oh close your eyes, exhale, feel
your body, relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.
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Speaker 1 (40:36):
One eight hundred contacts. This is such a failure, such
another example of no justice. And I'm tired. I'm just tired,
and I'm sad.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And Matrees is literally she's been dead for fifteen years,
sixteen years.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You know, no justice. Her case is still open. Yes,
no justice.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
And although you know, some people feel like it was
just a freak accident. She wandered off and died in
the wilderness. Some people think she was killed by a
man named Rick Forsberg, Okay killer. All I know is
there is a podcast these two white women and they
were talking about this case, and they found out that
(41:20):
he was questioned at some point in the investigation. And
despite him having ALBIS, despite so many things that do
not line up with what happened, they still decided to
come out and say, well, he possibly could have done this.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
The man is dead now, he's been dead since like
twenty nineteen, I think, so, it's it's very hairy. I
didn't want to bring it up because I'm like, who
are these women? Also?
Speaker 3 (41:41):
One?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Two, five, six? The theories don't add up?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
And then also why would Tui take the opportunity to
distract people and deter them from finding her?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Two times? What is that about? Now?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I will say, the only thing that makes sense to
me is the way this man looks.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Who is that? That's Rick?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
But where is Tooey? I'm gonna show you to any seconds.
This man looks like he may have had some money.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
It was like a maybe some of the weed.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
The marijuana extraction team was up in his mountains or
up and you know, you never know.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Stay away from my plugs stuff. I'm gonna lead you
out the way from there.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, because he kept them away from where her body was,
which is just it.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Doesn't make any sense to me. Let me show you
to Goma pal looking who was eightball hit behind him?
Oh that's doctor. Oh that's her mental mmm, changing lives.
I can't stay you, touy. Yeah, that's why your hairline
(42:48):
received a turd.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, So I get what you're putting down. So maybe
Twoey knew about some back alley marijuana thing that was
happening in that area, and so by halpens, we thought
he was really trying to hide her and what could
have happened to her, But instead he was really hiding
that there was marijuana growing back No, I don't think
that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I think he was trying to hide her. Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I think maybe she happened upon somebody that she shouldn't
have happened upon. Maybe it was the rich guy, the
Forestburg guy, and you know he reaches out to his.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Good old friend of twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, I mean it could be because it's too weird.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
They dogs. If dogs catch a sin, do you.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Know how important that is, especially the first day, that
is so important. Nobody could sit here and give me
any reason that that man would have those taken those
dogs away.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
No, unless he was trying to cover his boy somebody's
booty crack.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, and then still didn't bring them back even if
they were retired.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Let them have rest and you bring them back, he says, no, No,
they need more rest the dog the dogs. Now, when
the heck have you ever cared about the doll's rests? Right?
And then waiting two days? Oh my god, they love
the luck finding that after that cold blood bro. Oh,
he's an accomplice.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
They should charge him if they can't get nobody else,
get him, because that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I just think they can't do really much of anything
because her death is so undetermined and they all know
where to start.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's nature.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, it depends, Yeah, composition. If she's out there and
she's there, her body's don't naturally decomposed, and then nature
can actually preserve you.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, it depends on like if she was wrapped up
in something. It just depends.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, but usually like being mammified, it takes some type
of like protection, you know.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's something man man made protection. It could
have been, but they haven't released much of anything because
they're like, oh, well she died and that goes back.
And the Egyptians they they had the mommy. They they
preserve the body, wrap them in certain things, and that's
what made them certain mummies, not just the skeletons, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
But before skeletons are there, they still go through a
Mama five period where the skin shrivels up first before.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It starts to came in the bone show. Yeah, well,
all we know is we don't know. We don't happen
to the trees. We have no clue. I'm leaving here
with no closure, no nothing but frustration and hurt.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
And imagine how our family felt. God, how they feel,
because I feel it. I wouldn't wish that pain on anyone.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
And we're so.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Sorry the trees that you lost your life Rest in peace,
beautiful justice form a tree. Justice from the trees for real.
Because somebody has something.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
By his TOI because he know too much, hang him,
hang them by it. One thing to hang from him.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Said by his mama is just it's just so wild.
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Hello everyone, my friends, I'm Kayla, and I'm Kristen and
I'm Nikki, and this.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
And if this is your first time, you're the show. Friend,
Welcome and hello. I actually forgot to say that last episode.
I've never forgotten to say that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I know, I was just fight it. We we're back.
Welcome everyone. I feel a little bit like Cocaugh today,
but you know that's all right. We're gonna make it
through here, so let's just get right into it. Her,
I forgot to about an intro, because you know, sometimes
I do. I'm not perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But as you guys can see, this beautiful, gorgeous girl woman,
actually she's a woman in this picture. I thought I
was a Hollyberry child Christmas, So who to Halleyberry? No,
that's Matries Richardson, and she's so gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And so beautiful, and she's also not here with us anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh what's her name?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Tries? Okay, h Tree. She went missing in two thousand
and nine and wasn't found until twenty ten. Very sad.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
A lot of issue, a lot of speculation, a lot
of WTF.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Surrounding her disappearance. So join us today, you guys, as
we discussed what happened to our girl, matries, Sir Trees recipes.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
This reminds me of the girl from a long time
ago in the other country.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think it was like UK or something.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yes, she was o yeaes and.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
She like was knocked out, beat up something.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I remember. I just can't Remembernie. I
can't remember her name. Was she reminded of her? Yeah?
She was so cute. All right, let's get to mutrise,
all right. What happened baby?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Latrees was born on Tuesday, April thirtieth, nineteen eighty five,
and Los Angeles preor two parents, Latis Sutton.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And Michael Richardson. From what I read, they weren't like
actually really together, but they both loved their daughter. She
hasn't been forty this year. Oh she would have been.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
She spent the bulk of her life being raised in Covina,
California by her mom and her stepdad. Mctrese attended South
Hills High School in West Covina, and after graduating, she
went to California State University in Fullerton.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's same, she's served poppins these teams. Sure, she has
some fun girls. She is so cute. She's a fun girl.
She is cute. I love always looks like a play bunny. Yeah,
she's hot. Facts shouts you matries.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So she went to California State University in Fullerton and
graduated with her bachelor's degree in psychology in two thousand
and eight.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Okay, but that one of those. I do I do
have one of those. She had a lot going on
and she had a lot of interest. She could dance,
She competed in a beauty pageant. She worked as an
intern for a forensic psychologist. W yeahyla, I did. Okay,
sounds incredible to me. And she was also working part
(03:43):
time as a dancer at strip club. It's okay, Well
that's the only thing you didn't do then.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I don't know about, but you'd be shaking it.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I love the strip club.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But I've never been like on a powd oh. Matrise
was such an objectively beautiful girl. But according to the
people that loved her the most, she was beautiful inside
and out. Her obituary inscription online said, in memory of
our daughter, sister, niece, granddaughter, great granddaughter, hours for a
little while with Jesus forever.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Amen. I just love that they included Jesus. Look at her.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
She's just the everyday girls.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
She went to the same camp we went to in Florida.
Oh no girl O caamp decisions. Yeah, she's so cute.
A lot of people like just like to immediately condemn
LGBTQ to hell, but not her family. Matrisea lived her
life openly as a gay woman, and she was even
(04:44):
in a committed relationship with her girlfriend Testimon for about
two years. At the time of her disappearance. Matre I
didn't say that they beautiful, really beautiful stud Today she's
the stud well, she has her read lots.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
She her lineup was fresh and cut as I'm all
get out, with no salce on it.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Beautiful face, but she will.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Say, and with her Sadden blue drawl showing and all
that stuff, she opened the door for me and I said, hey,
your hair is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
She said, thank you, appreciate that a lot. You're beautiful too,
beauty beautiful, Nick.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I don't know, so let's get into this because nothing
after this is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
What Ter says, But her smile is beautiful, smile so gorgeous.
How many pictures are putting here her? Oh? She's just
really a stunner. Alrighty, here we go.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
On Wednesday, September sixteenth, two thousand and nine, when Ries
left her house in La to go to a restaurant
in Malibu called Jeffrey's Restaurant.
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Speaker 2 (06:56):
So Jeffries is in a short drive with traffic, it
can take between forty five minutes to an hour and
a half to get there.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What's she going to me?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's what I'm saying. This must be a pretty important sinner.
And if you're on Patreon, you can see a copy
of the receipt showing that one drink was ordered, a
sixty five hour steak and then valet parking period.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Day only reasonable thing in this valet, I know, right, we.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Talked about that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You can also see what time the meal was hat
so at seven forty pm, and how many guests were
present that night, which was two And we don't know
if that's like actually true, but we do know, you know, yeah,
and they split their bill because she only paid for
her It seems like if she was with someone else, right,
So we don't really know about that. Sometimes they just
(07:42):
put two and it's not really too According to witnesses,
while Matrise was eating at the restaurant, her behaviors started.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Becoming increasingly odd. What and when the time came to
pay for her meal, she was like, I guess refusing to.
She was a way for her meal, refusing to and
then apparently she couldn't pay.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So the staff at Jeffrey's were like trying to help her,
giving her like different options.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Of payment and stuff like that. They made multiple attempts
to close her tab out, but the situation became more
about her personal safety than like paying her bill. What
haven't We're gonna get to it. We're gonna get to
more of a description of what people said happened. But
it's not for a while. So hanging there, y'all, Oh,
let me think about this.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's already right, yeah, So the staff decided to call
the police for help. When officers arrived at the scene,
Matrise was given a sobriety test and she passed it.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Okay, I won't drinking rue comtail.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But it started to get weirder when officers asked Matrise
if she had.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Any health issues. She told them no, but when they
checked her car, apparently there were multiple prescription bottles inside,
a little under an ounce of marijuana and an inhaler.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Issues. She came, breeze, she's smoking.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't know whose names were on those prescription bottles,
and it never really came out. I didn't see it
in my research at all. So it's already red flagging
to me.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
She's a littless in the ouse, a little lesson. Where
was she going? She was, I'm not, but we're gonna
talk about some of my theories at least. But here
we go again.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
As you say, she can't crisis, you'll never mind, mom
said her quote. Her best phrase in high school was
kissed my a.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
She would tell the boys all day long, where you
can kiss my a?
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Why did you lie to us and tell us you
didn't cut so that you wouldn't and my past is
I'm the bloods you did give it?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Period?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Hilarious? Why the way anyway?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I want to know whose pill bottles those were in
her exactly. The arresting officer, his name was Armando Lurierio
no Matter, decided that although she was showing signs of
mental distress and should have been evaluated.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
By a professional, he just decided to take her to
the station. Did you did she act on need to
get out of that bill? No, she was acting lonely.
That's why they called them the first place, because they
want to help her with the bill. They were trying
to figure out a way.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I think it's important to note that Armando was
at the end of a double shift that day, so
he was.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Already he was tied over it and trip off this.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
When she was originally booked into the jail, she was
booked on felony charges.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
For paying her tab fela is bedtime, no burglary charges,
ridiculous as right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
He then moved a death point over someone as.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Some zero CHRISTI said he must have been. That's hilarious,
because how you give me a break?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But it was later lowered to a misdemeanor charge of
failure to pay an innkeeper. Yeah, and possession of under
an ounce of marijuana.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So you know somebody somebody caught it, yeah, thank god.
So there was communication going on between patrol cars that
were involved in Matriesa's arrest after she was dropped off
at the station.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
All okay, And thanks to a very thorough couckage journalist
named C. C.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Woods, we have some of the transcripts from those conversations.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So it looks like a little like click click clack
or whatever they type it on our little computers.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Whatever they're using code. I had to decipher it. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
One of them says, I think this is the arresting officer.
He goes he has to go back to the station
to initiate a fem Searchum, sarch.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
She gonna check her coolie coops. That's what I'm thinking.
That I means, what which is? It's against protocol.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
There's no reason for you to go back there. There's
other women at the station. Yeah, you're a little bit gross.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And he'd been not checking anyway. What he's a checking for?
The ounce is in the car? What else you checking for?
I have no councess. She had a balloon up there
and that exploded and then that's what cracked her out. Yeah,
and behavior, but.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You would jump to something in her coochie cat.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
They don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
They definitely searched her person before even putting her in
the car, so it's like, why do you need to
return to.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Fem check her. I don't fim search her. I don't
like that doesn't sound good.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Then someone replies two minutes later saying, quote, you're at
the end of a double what you get? And then
he says he arrested her for being unable to pay.
And then someone responded, why didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You help us a stout? So this is very unseerious talk.
And then once you hear I'm getting ahead of my
getting ahead of myself because then was cute. He'd been
not had done none to her? Right? Who was cute?
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Matriesa Ye beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So Matrisa was booked into the Lost Hills station, but
she wasn't in custody long and against Latsia's wishes, which
is Matriesa's mom, they released her back on the street
at around midnight.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It was like twelve thirty eight pm. Mama was like,
don't do that. Yes, dangerous, right, but like, where's a mom? Huh?
Her mama did? She was trying to get there.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, she's already an hour hour half away from
the house, and her mom was aware that she was
having like some type of mental health issue, because that's
what the claims were, that she was freaking out and stuff,
and she's had she struggled with a little bit of
like depression and stuff in the past. So her mom's
already on alert. She said, hey, can you please keep her?
You know, but she's an adult, can't necessarily keep her.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And she just is released with no money, no phone.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, her car has been towed, so she has no
transportation to get somewhere safe in the middle of the night,
in a.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Place she has she's never been. Armando did it? Arman.
I don't even remember his name. He's so wrote, okay,
and this is at midnight. They kept her almost one am.
Why they keep her phone? I don't know. I don't
know where her phone was. I don't know if she
got lost when she was at Jeffrey's. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay, but this is very careless and like irresponsible. If
you can see someone in distress, you.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Don't you don't go, especially when the mom's calling you
and pleading for you to keep her. Right unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So at this point, It's September seventeenth, the early hours
of the morning, and Matrees is nowhere to be found.
Five hours later, homeowners in the Montenito neighborhood of Dark
Canyon called police, saying that they had seen a woman
on their property and this woman matched Matrisa's description, so
a patrol car was sent out reportedly searched the area.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm like, God, I can't see her.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I turned my head twice, didn't find her, and then
just left.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So it's like, how far could Matries really get in
that timeframe from that call to and you don't you don't.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
See her, And then imagine like the mom exactly already
out on the streets trying to find her.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Funally right, and that's fishit.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
There were two more alleged sidings of her on the seventeenth,
which is the day after she was arrested. One person
said they saw her walking on Malibu Canyon Road at
around seven thirty am, and someone else said they saw
someone matching her description walking on Payoma Road at around
one thirty pm.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So she's been out that long.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Because she will somebody. She asked somebody because she used
a phone do something.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
You know, she could have knocked on doors. What's a restaurant?
What your guys? Stay? She look this, this, this, you
know something?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
And she was black way you walking too far away
from nowhere and not not where where.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I don't know where I'm at. If I'm at the
police station, you let me go. Can I have a
phone call?
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Like?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Can I call my parents? Something?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
And it's supposed to be a safe Hey man, I'm
gonna stay. You're until my mom comes.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You make me leave you no, orno, something's off and
she's having a mental health episode, remember you guys. You
know sometimes when you're struggling like that, you just you
lose track. You just literally walk Sotriesa's helping fast. But
there were people that were actively lying and impeding the
(16:51):
search for Matrees from the job. Oh my god, most
of which were law enforcements. Yep, because who is surprised? Charker, Charker.
According to a jailer named Sharon Cummings, who can be
seen on camera in the booking area with Matries, she
claimed that she escorted Matries to the front of the
station to use the payphone before her release and Matries
(17:13):
could call her grandmother.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, but not only did Matri's grandmother receive phone records
from the company saying she received no calls from the jail,
but there isn't even a working payphone in the lobby
of the station.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
So she lied. She lied, She got to lie face,
so it's a it's a thick, blatant lie. You don't
get that confused. No, she lied.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And this jailor, who is a black woman, I might add,
I think I have a picture of her, well the back.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Of her, but that's her, and that's her with matries.
What putting her in the cell?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What she's gonna sit there and lie for a was shit? Carsel? Yeah,
she's the jailer.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Law enforcer? Oh yeah, yes, mom, she is, you know,
law enforcer at the jail at least, well she's not
like the the person over everybody, but but still, and you.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Should protect a person like that because they're gonna fact
check where at the payphone, dummy?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Where is the phone? Where's the phone?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They did get our girl on camera holding a paypholl
like a phone or whatever in her hand, but she's
never seen dialing, so she never placed the actual call.
And if the phone on work, she couldn't have placed.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The phone exactly case. Who got payphones these days? Well,
this was two thousand and nine. I don't know. It's
a jail.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
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Okay, back to the episode, Tui was the head of
Malibu Search and Rescue at the time, and let's just.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Say, you know, we hate him.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
According to Mtrees's mentor, a clinical psychologist named doctor Roda Hampton,
Tui was showing his booty crack from the very beginning.
She said he was behaving in an extremely suspicious way.
First of all, Matriesa is a mentor, that's a psychologist, period,
Because she's mm hmm yeah. So for example, during the
(21:04):
initial search for Matries, the canines were dispersed and had
eventually caught onto Matrisa's sent.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Okay, so yeah, happy, yeah, take us tour. Yeah nope.
Two we pulled them immediately.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh my god, them and had them stop searching. And
mind you, they picked up her sent on the first day,
the first day she's missing. The dogs will scheduled to
be there for two days. But why why because we
opted to not have them returned because they were quote
(21:37):
too tired. Christen, this is so bad. This is really
it gets worse, but this.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Is so bad. Who in they're right mine? If you're
not guilty, why on God's green earth would you do that?
And then you wonder why people don't want to call
the car. This is unbelievable. And he's not even a
like no long like yeah, I don't they have a brotherhood,
you know, he's a part of He's a part of
(22:09):
it for sure, because he's a sergeant or whatever.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
This is like God the day do theynge lady, dirty dogs, unbelievable,
despising rabbits.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
There's a lot more, okay, a lot more injustice, but
let's get to something else. First, we have to get
to Monday, August ninth.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Twenty ten, and that's the day that Matriesa's mamma five
remains were found in a remote area in Dark Canyon
at around four pm.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Mama, fid you did been missing the year? Yeah, she
had been missing over a year. Bless her.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So I said it was four pm. But I also
read somewhere that her body was found around one pm.
So it was just found. It was found on that
day in the afternoon. Apparently it wasn't too far from
where she.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Was last seen either.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We have a map so you can see, like down
in the corner of the map where it says last
known sighting of Matrees, which is when she was walking
up that Puma Road at one point thirty on September seventeenth,
and then boom, her remains are found.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Like less than what is it? Probably less than five
miles okay low from where she was last seen.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Wow, it's sad. This is really really sad. And look
at the terrain too, like this is a this is
hill country, this is not pretty remote. Her body was
reportedly found during a patrol of the pot growing areas
by the marijuana eradication team whatever, like, Okay, I think
(23:41):
they're really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Triggered yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, dunbay.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, anti eradication. But usually there's like police officers that
are involved with this in their spare time or whatever.
But no actual police officers were involved this day. And
I say that because I read a lot of in
a lot of places. They wanted to make that very clear.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
No police officers were involved on this day when her
body was found.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And good thank the law because I've probably been there.
They would have covered up even more. Her body never
would have been found.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And now I'm thinking about you know, our marrying they
were searching the marijuana area. You know, our girl had
a little lesson announce on her, so maybe she's a
little bit more familiar with the area than we know.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Like, you know, you just never know what if she
was selling and we just don't know and something happened,
you know, she was taken.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
There's too many possibilities. Maybe she was taken there. I genuinely,
you guys, I have no clue what happened to her. And
then it makes me want to think about immediately what
the autopsy results were, like how did she die? What happened?
But they were found to be inconclusive. God, her cause
of death was undetermined.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Want everybody in Cahouf And how does she get all
the way there from she walked that far? She walked
that far? Nope, she did not, She did not walk
that far. And then they were able that's those twenty
miles I read.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And another thing, they were able to grow marijuana that
close to the command posts.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well that's a whole other thing, because we know how
they act mad but benefit from it. It's just stupid really.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
So the family was notified immediately, but not by the police.
They were notified by like search and rescue helpers, like
they had victim advocates that work with them, and one
of the victim advocates I reached out. The family then
reached out to the police to confirm that the remains
were in fact matries, and the lead detective, named Lieutenant
Mike Rosen completely brushed them off.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
He said that the findings were just a few.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Bones, quote a few bones, and didn't give them any
information about where the remains were found, how.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
They could get there, gave them nothing.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It just going on what they kind of gets that babyman.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
They honestly, honestly when I bring this up. I want
to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
There was a theory that they tried to throw out
there that she was a prostitute. She was prostitute in
and you know, they probably judge her from that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
She's black, I don't even know, in a.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Restaurant, looking good, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Like she was not a pro having a moment, you know,
and they take her to somewhere and then let her
go and then she dies and she's having a mental
health like crisis.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Man, the police department would be in the red to
this day.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That should have sued them for absolutely.
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are being more helpful and finding Matrise and giving her
family closure than the police were. They were actually making
it a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Worse the police were.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And we'll continue to Oh but wait until you hear
that Matrise's body could have been found over six months earlier.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, so remember when she was lasting in the Dark
Canyon area.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, well, naturally the plan is to search the area
that she was last seeing. Yeah, and a few months
after her disappearance, the Search and Rescue had a drone
in the air searching that area and TWI toy again,
good old.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Towiy intention.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Poopy, So we intentionally redirected the drone away from the
area that Matesa's body would be found in.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
He knew about it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh, it's literally like he fine, Yeah, we're gonna get
to the mark on day right, this right, they chose
this woman to say, yeah, we want her, she is good.
Let's let's let's do what we whatever we want to do,
(28:33):
because we can do whatever we want to do and
then get rid of her.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And doctor Rondo was actively asking him, Doctor Ronda, remember
is Matesa's mentor.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
She's actively asking him, why aren't you sitting in the
drone in that area?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And his reply was Oh, we'll get to it eventually.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
But that's what she was last saying, and he's stuck
on stupid and he and they still didn't find Remember
the search and rescue people didn't even find it. These
are marijuana or whatever. They were doing other stuff. Well,
search and rescue wasn't even trying to find it. That's
the whole day, Doctor Ronda and Matreesa's family, while obviously
(29:14):
processing their loss, because hello, they had to work hard
to find out what happened to Matris because it.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
What should never have to work hard to find out
what happened to your deceased family member.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, somebody else should be doing concluding to the need
to do it.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
They're getting paid to literally find out what happened to
your daughter, and they are not doing so. And something
stuck out to me that happened way before Matesa's remains
were found. It happened actually days after she disappeared. So
doctor Rondo went to Sheriff Lee Baka, who was the
active sheriff at the time, and told him, like, hey, corruption,
I'm smelling already.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Why is Materesa's case not being taken seriously? It's actually being.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Grossly mishandled, and he said, yes, I agree with you.
I feel like a lot of my guys mishandled her disappearance.
And he also went as far as even say that
he thinks she might have been murdered.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Oh so the true Shane Devil. Does anybody have?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
That?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Says a recording. Right, And this is days after she
has been missing missing. You know, usually they try to
tell you, oh.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
She's twenty four, she's young and free. You know, she
probably just give it a couple.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
More days you'll hear from her. No, he straight up said,
you know, I think she was murdered. That's a big deal. Yeah,
because he.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Knows, and that's admitting, like, hey, we're we're looking into
a murder.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You know, he could have said, maybe she's suicide in herself. No,
he went straight to murder. That stuck out to me. Wow,
because he knew something. Maybe your guys. Yeah, Yeah, it's
not good. I don't like it. I don't like I
don't like it at all. I don't like it at all.
This case, it's really bad. Like when Matesa's family showed
(30:51):
up to where the remains were found, officers wouldn't let
them anywhere near it. And I'm like, okay, active crime scene,
right kind of get that part.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
But they told him they should come back tomorrow because
that's when they be removing Matriesa's body from the area.
But the family decided to stay anyway because they felt
that they was getting the run around.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, and gave them overnight to do what put somebody
else there? Yeah, So they stayed until after dark and
saw them helicopter something away that to them looked like
it could have been mat And then you get to
have my deceased person's body, like you get to keep it,
(31:30):
and you got the note to tell me I can't
see the body. Yes, Like that would blow me.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
They already crooked for me in the jail, poor Louie Dooey.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Whatever his name is, and he's all the stupid duck.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
He'd been a distraction, he's he messed with evidence, he's
doing all this stuff. And you want me to leave
you and trust you, I'm come back.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Who do you think I am? And this is my daughter.
I'm surprised they didn't throw a grenade out there get
rid of options.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
So of course Ma Teresa's family has done everything they
can from making websites and Facebook pages, writing letters, making
phone calls. They called the mayor a number of times.
The mayor act like he couldn't be bothered. Congresswoman Maxine
Waters herself requested an FBI probe into Matreesa's disappearance. Thank you,
there was a fifteen thousand dollars reward that was offered
(32:32):
from the city of Malibu saying, hey, you know, help
us find her. I mean there were a lot of
eyes on Materesa's case, just not the right ones.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, not the ones I would actually make sure it
got solved because it's smelled like a cover up.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Real bad, definitely, And I'm not saying that Matrise was without.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Her own issues. So that the point.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Now we're going to kind of get into what our
girl was going through and what she may have been
dealing with at the time. Okay, so our girl was
struggling with her mental health, real bad.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
According to her mom, the night that she disappeared.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Latise told officers that Matrise was depressed and may have
been in a depressive state that night, but her mom
also confirmed that she wasn't taking any medication at that
time to treat anything, which brings.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Us back to the pills. Why maybe maybe she took
some pills and that's why she was acting, you know,
so girlfriend, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I don't think her girlfriend was there with her that night.
It definitely would have come up at my research if
a day if she was. So there's a theory that
Matrise may have been experiencing her first manic episode that
night and may have started to have onset signs of
bipolar disorder.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
That night, according to witnesses, she told people she was
from Mars.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And was speaking in like a made up language. She
told a vallet guy that she was there to avenge
Michael Jackson staff.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Now when they paid to say this, I don't know
if the police a couple of everything else, Maybe they didn't,
were circling back around and gave them a tip to
say that.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Her mom she was having she was at That's why
they called the police in the first place.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Jump yeah, couldness. I don't know what they could have done,
because if she got back in the car and went
her own way, who knows that she still would have
been in danger.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
She was upset when a group of people she was
talking to, like at the dinner, didn't offer to pay
for her when she couldn't pay, so she was like,
you know, I'll hear you a kinpe of thing.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't know. I don't know what she was doing.
This is what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Another guy said that she was flirting with his male friend,
and when her dad heard that.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
He's like immediately no, like she's highly lesbian.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
It's not like her stupid and she wanted to pay
for her bill and you didn't, and you didn't you
completely You.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Could have say that, yeah, you could think.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Okay, And manic episodes are like loitered with impulsive, big,
often out of character types of moments like that, so
it's it's possible. She went on, and then mental health
professionals got a hold of Matriesa's journal. Ooh, apparently Matrese
hadn't slept for almost five nights before the night she
(35:25):
was arrested.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
What was going on, honey? And she spent the last
five days calling and texting her friends strange things. She
was like posting things out of character on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
She was kind of spamming her posts, you know, like
when you post a bunch. So it was just she.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Was out of character. She was apparently living out of
her car.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, I broke over with her girlfriend at this point,
what happened baby?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, what happened to a baby girl? I know, it's
really sad. And she wasn't homeless.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
She apparently she wasn't home, but her friend said it
wasn't abnormal for her to live out of her car for.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Days on end. Oh, she had some issues then, because
people don't do that. She was struggling. Yeah, I hate
that for you.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
And it seemed to like be unraveling so fast, you know,
like it was hitting her like a ton of bricks.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah. When her dad saw her mugshot, he said, quote,
she looked like a demon had come inside her. That
was not my daughter. It ran chills up my spine.
I've never seen my.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Daughter look like that. Oh hot, we have a picture
of her mu shot. I don't you know what, let's
just google it. Can you google it for me? Although
the LAPD says there is no foul play, the la
s D, which is that, no, the.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Long Hill people whatever, losers, you find it. Christen found it.
Hold on, we're looking at Matriesa's mugshot.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Now she looks tired, tired. Oh, she looks like she's battling. Oh,
she was not in a good way.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah she was, Oh she was not in a good way,
poor thing. Yeah, she was struggling and it had been
for a little while.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, and it looks like she was still warring. She
still had a little glint in her eye though, like, yeah,
she was just pretty Yeah, but she's hurting godly.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
So yeah, the l a p D don't think that
any foul play happened. I don't care what they think
anything like what they think, I just don't care.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You l a p D is not the people that
were in charge of the initial.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Investigation.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Well who let her go from the post office, that's
the Long Hill office.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
The police, They might as well be post off.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I think that flight is called the Long Hill SHAREFFS,
Lost Seals, Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Okay, and then have stupid too again and behind to
wait is the Search and Rescue, Search and rescue head
or whatever. He's a piece of crass.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So the LPD decided to step in, and they felt
like there was no foul play. Yes, that's what they
came up with from what they had, which was nothing,
because who was going to give it to him? Long
hair and to it show what you're going to back
your own people. So obviously you don't feel like there
(38:25):
was foul play. The only evidence at this point in
her case that really would have been found, I think
is in her car, yeah, and on her body and suspiciousness.
As to why they let her go when they feel.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Like she needed an evaluation, well that I feel like
that's lazy, just super lazy police work. Like we said,
the guy that in took her, that was he washed
his hands, cleaned of it. He wanted to double back
and do a fill check, fill her up, get him
a little nookie before he went to sleep, because he
had them be like shift you see like nine eight
(39:00):
percent men in hell. Oh, I'm just saying I believe that.
Oh yeah, just as bad. But they're not.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
They don't have the same type of nastiness perforations.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I feel like men have to fight to be not animals.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, I feel there's an animalistic.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
And disgusting it's for some men are.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Discussing why I used to say that the dog was
the last animal, then God created men after the dog.
But that's so wrong because that is not biblical. But
that was just what I used to say. Well, but
it's not true.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
It comes then comes I mean true in the image
of the.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You ate that dog on apple animal jumped up in man.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Take off animal, don't jumped man. Yeah, this stuff just talking.
It's just sad though. Oh close your eyes, exhale, feel
your body, relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't
get my new contacts in time for this class.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
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Oh my gosh, they're so fast and breathe. Oh sorry,
I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they
gave me on my first order. Oh sorry, no mistake.
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Speaker 1 (40:36):
One eight hundred contacts. This is such a failure, such
another example of no justice. And I'm tired. I'm just tired,
and I'm sad.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And Matrees is literally she's been dead for fifteen years,
sixteen years.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You know, no justice. Her case is still open. Yes,
no justice.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
And although you know, some people feel like it was
just a freak accident. She wandered off and died in
the wilderness. Some people think she was killed by a
man named Rick Forsberg, Okay killer. All I know is
there is a podcast these two white women and they
were talking about this case, and they found out that
(41:20):
he was questioned at some point in the investigation. And
despite him having ALBIS, despite so many things that do
not line up with what happened, they still decided to
come out and say, well, he possibly could have done this.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
The man is dead now, he's been dead since like
twenty nineteen, I think, so, it's it's very hairy. I
didn't want to bring it up because I'm like, who
are these women? Also?
Speaker 3 (41:41):
One?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Two, five, six? The theories don't add up?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
And then also why would Tui take the opportunity to
distract people and deter them from finding her?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Two times? What is that about? Now?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I will say, the only thing that makes sense to
me is the way this man looks.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Who is that? That's Rick?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
But where is Tooey? I'm gonna show you to any seconds.
This man looks like he may have had some money.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
It was like a maybe some of the weed.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
The marijuana extraction team was up in his mountains or
up and you know, you never know.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Stay away from my plugs stuff. I'm gonna lead you
out the way from there.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, because he kept them away from where her body was,
which is just it.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Doesn't make any sense to me. Let me show you
to Goma pal looking who was eightball hit behind him?
Oh that's doctor. Oh that's her mental mmm, changing lives.
I can't stay you, touy. Yeah, that's why your hairline
(42:48):
received a turd.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, So I get what you're putting down. So maybe
Twoey knew about some back alley marijuana thing that was
happening in that area, and so by halpens, we thought
he was really trying to hide her and what could
have happened to her, But instead he was really hiding
that there was marijuana growing back No, I don't think
that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I think he was trying to hide her. Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I think maybe she happened upon somebody that she shouldn't
have happened upon. Maybe it was the rich guy, the
Forestburg guy, and you know he reaches out to his.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Good old friend of twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, I mean it could be because it's too weird.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
They dogs. If dogs catch a sin, do you.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Know how important that is, especially the first day, that
is so important. Nobody could sit here and give me
any reason that that man would have those taken those
dogs away.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
No, unless he was trying to cover his boy somebody's
booty crack.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, and then still didn't bring them back even if
they were retired.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Let them have rest and you bring them back, he says, no, No,
they need more rest the dog the dogs. Now, when
the heck have you ever cared about the doll's rests? Right?
And then waiting two days? Oh my god, they love
the luck finding that after that cold blood bro. Oh,
he's an accomplice.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
They should charge him if they can't get nobody else,
get him, because that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I just think they can't do really much of anything
because her death is so undetermined and they all know
where to start.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's nature.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, it depends, Yeah, composition. If she's out there and
she's there, her body's don't naturally decomposed, and then nature
can actually preserve you.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, it depends on like if she was wrapped up
in something. It just depends.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, but usually like being mammified, it takes some type
of like protection, you know.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's something man man made protection. It could
have been, but they haven't released much of anything because
they're like, oh, well she died and that goes back.
And the Egyptians they they had the mommy. They they
preserve the body, wrap them in certain things, and that's
what made them certain mummies, not just the skeletons, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
But before skeletons are there, they still go through a
Mama five period where the skin shrivels up first before.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It starts to came in the bone show. Yeah, well,
all we know is we don't know. We don't happen
to the trees. We have no clue. I'm leaving here
with no closure, no nothing but frustration and hurt.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
And imagine how our family felt. God, how they feel,
because I feel it. I wouldn't wish that pain on anyone.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
And we're so.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Sorry the trees that you lost your life Rest in peace,
beautiful justice form a tree. Justice from the trees for real.
Because somebody has something.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
By his TOI because he know too much, hang him,
hang them by it. One thing to hang from him.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Said by his mama is just it's just so wild.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
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and let us know what you guys thought.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
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