EP. 5 - Queen Mary

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Episode five the fifth Chappelle.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I played the fifth no .

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Episode five.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I guess that's off-brand.
Queen Mary, queen Mary, I'mexcited about this one, this.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm very excited for because we're keeping it in our
other hometown, California.
We did two PA episodes.
Now we're bringing it to ourcurrent house.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Everything is home state.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Everything is home state.
We are here in Long Beach,california, talking all things
Queen Mary, now Jake, what?
This episode I am very, very,very excited for because we
reference MTV Fear.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, I love that show .

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I remember the MTV Fear episode on Queen Mary.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
This had to be like early 2000s, which means we
eventually have to go overMoundsville State Prison too.
That was the first episode.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
That's a great place.
Actually, I've been there.
Have you been there?
Yes, yeah, many times Vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It was a high school field trip.
It was a high school field trip.
It was terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, why they took us there.
I don't know what the fuck itsays a lot about our school.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
They were trying to scare us into behaving well?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
But that was a wild field trip.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
That's it.
Jake left his coffee just onthe table.
Whoopsie, it's okay.
No, you left the coffee.
It's all good though, but itlooks good.
I like it.
It's okay.
It feels lived in, oh man.
So what's been going on, jake,let's catch up for a second.
Everything good in your world.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Everything's good.
I'm preparing for eventsstarting in May.
This is going to be a big yearfor, so it's going to be a good
experience.
I'm going to be manning thoseforts and outside of that, do
you feel like you're justworking every day of your life?

(01:51):
Yeah, that's what I feel likeright now.
I feel like, even because we'reso excited about the podcast
and how well it's doing startingright off the bat, I can't stop
thinking about wanting to beproductive with this.
Even on my off days, like overthe weekend, I was just like I
feel like I should be focusingon this, I feel like I should be
doing something with this, andI did dedicate all of sunday to

(02:11):
this, but but even saturday Iwas like I gotta start.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I gotta start working on this.
I mean to be honest, bro, likeif you look at any of the
successful things that we'velaunched or I've done, you got
to be all in on it oh,absolutely, so this is something
where you know when you, whenyou get the momentum that it's
got, there's a window and itcomes for any business stuff.
Really, I mean, you got to acton it.
There's no off days on onfucking owning your own business
.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
You know, there's no off days no, there isn't off
days.
And you know, initially youwould think, oh, that sounds
exhausting.
But when you really enjoy whatyou're doing, it's fun, it's
actually fun.
It doesn't feel like it'staking away from a personal life
, because it kind of becomesyour personal life, because also
, when you put a lot of hardwork into something, your
personal life only amplifies ontop of that, because then you

(02:52):
can start living a little bit ofa better life because of the
successes of what we're focusingon.
So that's what I'm hoping.
What happens with this podcast,which I think we're already en
route to that so it's goinggreat.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Thank you for all the love and support we say in
every episode, but really meansa lot.
Thank you for all seriouslythank you all the reviews, all
the likes, all the comments.
They're fucking wild.
We're just launching this thingum zero to a hundred, real
quick, as I say you know.

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Speaker 2 (03:49):
So we are on episode five today.
Five, yeah, today we're zooming, we're zooming, man, we're,
we're zooming.
You know what's my goal?
You know what would be?
One of my goals is uh, forhalloween it'd be our 100th
episode.
That's a lot of that's a bigcatalog, buddy, I'm about to
travel a lot.
Yeah, you are, but we can, but Ifeel like we can make it I feel
like we can get close to that Iwant to try and even and even
if we don't reach 100, that's alot of content within a year If
you think about what the averagepodcast is edition now.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
We're not trying to be average.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
We're not trying to be average, obviously, but I
feel like that's a really goodstandard to live by.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
My goal this year would be 100 episodes by
Halloween.
Having our 100th episode inSalem live at the Blackcraft
store or in Blackcraft in LAwould even be sick, but Salem
would be special 100th episode.
Maybe Morbid will do it with us.
I'm just trying to manifestsome shit.
I don't know why the fuck?
You're laughing.
What's the fuck so funny?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm going to be like reading while I'm driving across
country to events and be likeokay this episode.
Okay, hold on, that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
So much research, I do want to do some really quick
housekeeping here before we getinto the queen mary, which I'm
fucking excited for this one,because there's a lot of awesome
haunted history.
I've been there, me too.
We have.
We've had some little bit.
You know, to be honest with you, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna
do it right now.
I really haven't had anyexperiences there, so me either,
but I don't have experiencethere usually so but david and
laura will be joining us today,which is becoming everyone's
favorites, which I love.
I really love that they partakein this.
Before we do it, I just want todo some quick housekeeping here

(05:10):
.
We're talking about festivals.
We got Sonic Temple coming up.
Yes, we got Sonic Temple comingup.
We go straight into Welcome to.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Rockville right after that, and then we also have
Warped Tour this year as well.
And pretty much the remainingDWP events which is you got
Incarceration, we got.
Incarceration we got, oh mygosh Louder Than Life.
Louder Than Life and Aftershock.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So we will be at all those, make sure you come say hi
to myself.
Say hi to Jake.
We will be there Sweating ourasses off.
I think the Incarceration onein July.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
We got to set up something special for that.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah because that prison is haunted.
I actually did that touralready.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I actually did that tour too.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I did the midnight tour about three years ago it
was so much fun, it wasenjoyable, and nothing happened
to you and nothing happened tome.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Nothing happens to me .
They don't care about me.
They don't care if I know ifthey exist or not.
They probably view me asuseless, don't?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
answer.
So yeah, we're here.
Episodes.
Episode five queen mary yes,long beach, california, and it's
in our backyard, mtv fear.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I want to do a shout out to anybody who is a a
younger audience, listen to this.
I'm going to give you a littlebit of a they're like what the
fuck is mtv?
So mtv fear obviously startedthe whole reality television I
don't know if it started.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, it definitely did .

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You had real world, real world start.
I feel like real world startedall and then, road rolls came
after that and, before you know,they're doing the osborns yeah,
you're not wrong.
Yeah, like they really startedthis huge wave of reality tv.
Well, there was this littleblip in time on mtv, where they
also had this uh show calledfear.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
What a great name, what a great you.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Just what a great era of life and I think it was a
song.
Voodoo was like the theme songvoodoo, voodoo.
What band is I don't remember.
It's god smack, that's god smack, but I don't remember smack,
but um, I remember watching thisas a kid back in 2001 and, just
like here, I've always beenenticed by the idea of
paranormal activity.
I was even watching this showwhen I was younger.

(07:03):
I'm'm like, wow, this is socrazy and shit.
Never happened to me.
But Queen Mary was actually oneof the episodes on MTV Fear.
And what they would do is theywould have a group of people
together, complete strangers,and they had to do these tasks,
like either by themselves orwith another person, and they
would be videotaped the wholetime with like video camera

(07:24):
straps.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
And in order to fulfill, like multiple nights,
you would win a cash prize.
Doesn't this kind of sound likeyour life?
That's about to happen?
Yeah, well, is there a cashprize?
Yeah, there is, but it's notgonna be much whatever.
I mean, that's lovely 50 buckswhat about the incentive full 50
bucks.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
50 bucks, all right.
How much for a lifetime ofpsychological trauma?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
okay, I'll take it like life's hard I need whatever
I can get.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Bucks is 50 bucks, but uh yeah, queen mary was one
of them, but that's why I gotthe idea about uh me doing these
locations by myself and kind oflike being tasked do you got
this idea or did I got?
I think I got no I, I'm prettysure I texted you first about it
.
I totally volunteered myselfand I believe I would volunteer
myself because I'm not afraid ofthe dark.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
It's on camera, you heard it.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I volunteered myself.
If I back out, I back out.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
No, no, no.
There's no backing out.
By the way, Once you commit,these are Jake pay-per-views.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
But if these are Jake pay-per-views, but I, if
anybody can look up this show, Ireally recommend you watching
it.
I feel like this was realitytelevision at its peak and it's
just it's not the same thesedays.
But yeah, definitely look intoMTV.
Fear.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I really, really love that we're going to be the new
show, that's going to be the newMTV fear.
We're going to bring it back.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's going to be me, with $50 cash prize for like
eight hours of roaming aroundPennhurst.
It'd be fun.
Yeah, I'll be.
Yeah, physically probably fine,but no, I want to go into the
history of the Queen Mary beforewe get into any of like the
paranormal activity that tookplace here.
So me and Bobby have both beenthere the time that I visited.

(09:01):
I've only been there once andit was during the evening time,
going into nighttime, and I wishI had a better experience, but
I didn't, because there was anobnoxious wedding party on the
ship at the time when I wasvisiting and they were
completely killing the vibe likethey were at the end of the
ship and all I wanted to do waswalk around.
They were everywhere.
It was just people in a bridalshower or what.

(09:23):
Do you call it a bride?
What's it called a bride team?

Speaker 1 (09:27):
what do they call it?
The bridal company?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
the fuck are you talking about the group of
people there with the bride andgroom?
What do they call that?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I don't know.
I don't know that they were.
I was thinking right there.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
They were so and they were doing the most obnoxious
photos, like everybody jumpingat the same time.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So wait, were you there to?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
ghost hunt.
No, I was there to simply likelook, there's a little museum in
there.
And just to check out what theinterior and exterior was like.
It's a big ship up front.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's bigger than the Titanic, I heard.
Is that true?
Is that a fact?
Good question, or was thatbullshit?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
That was not one part of the Queen Mary that I
researched, but we can actuallygo.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Someone said it was bigger than Titanic, but I don't
know if I believe that.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, back in the day that probably was considered
massive right, I don't know, Idon't know, but I mean, we could
rewatch the movie Titanic too,to see, or we could probably
just a quick Google search orchat GPT.
But yeah, my experience wasdefinitely not haunted at all.
There was a couple of areaswhere they're a little bit dark
and dingy, kind of obviouslyelevated, for like a bit of a

(10:28):
paranormal experience, but Ididn't experience any
particularly, but the interiorwas really freaking cool.
Yeah, it was really cool and Iwas very impressed and I ended
up finding out that you can staythere overnight.
It's still an active hotel.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, apparently ended upfinding out that you can stay
there overnight.
It's still an active hotel oh Ididn't know that.
Yeah, apparently.
Oh, and they also do like, Ithink, every Halloween they do
like the haunted house stuff.

(10:49):
There too, I think the lastcouple years has been hosted by
Shaquille O'Neal or somethingthat's badass Shaquille O'Neal's
, one of my favorites.
Are you sure Shaquille O'NealFright Shaq.
Is that true?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Do you know it's called Shacktober.
Is it really?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's called Shacktober, that's the coolest
thing in the world.
How did I just find this out?
I feel like we need to attendthis, Bro Shaquille.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
O'Neal is like one of my favorite fucking humans ever
.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Paranormal and basketball.
I figure it's a greatcombination.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's my life.
Huh, oh, it's not there anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh, okay, that's a shame gotcha.
Uh, I would have been lookingforward to.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
But you know well the other, the only time I've ever
been there, and I kind of wentthere not open to go.
I mean, dude, this is years ago, like I don't even, I wasn't
even before I moved out here.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, bro, it was like a tattoo.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Convention was on it and I can see that I wasn't even
thinking about.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I didn't even I didn't even know what the fuck,
so, like I don't know, it'sbroad daylight, you know what I
mean, so that was my onlyexperience yeah, I feel like I
could have had a betterexperience if there wasn't such
a dramatic like wedding party,right?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
just happening there.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I felt like I could have been a little bit more
focused on the actual physicalenvironment, not distracted.
But I, we, I would love torevisit there and I think you
should do that sometime.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I think we should definitely revisit this place
because there's a lot of hauntedhistory here.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Jake, I think let's let's get into it, because this
goes back to what like the 1930s1930s, okay, so it took them a
full six years to build thequeen mary from 1930 to 1936 and
it was done by the john brownand company in scotland and it
was uh built for uh.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
It was built as a luxury ocean liner so it had
like bars in it, bars in it,like swimming pools, hotel in it
, swimming pools, hotel rooms,yeah, and it was mostly used to
carry passengers across theAtlantic City and then, I
believe, atlantic City.
Atlantic Ocean, atlantic.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Ocean.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, hey, man, real quick, we're going to go to
Atlantic City, new.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Jersey, you had fumbles on the last episode.
You kept on saying shit wrongwas on the last episode.
I kept on saying shit wrong.
Yeah, you're wrong, yeah, but,um, pretty much.
So what?
Oh, I gotta stop saying prettymuch so much, pretty much so
much, uh.
So the ship uh was uhdiscontinued in use, I think
back in 1967 and it had arrivedin long beach and it's pretty
much been sitting at long beach,california, since then.

(12:59):
It's used as, like a touristattraction and also for a
haunted happenings, and it'svery interesting.
So this was known, but this wasa pretty popular place for,
like hollywood back in the day,some of the famous people who've
stayed there is audrey hepburn,fred astaire, bing crosby,
elizabeth taylor, winstonchurchill and then, more
recently, leonardo dicaprio,ryan gosling, katie perry, and

(13:23):
the list goes on and on and on.
This is a very famous place formany people.
Um, this is a cool fact.
So it has been used formultiple films, uh, but one of
them is ghost ship.
Have you ever seen ghost ship?
I don't think so so we're gonna.
We're gonna divert a little bit,because I love talking about.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
That's an old movie, though, right, it's an older
horror film from the early 2000sand it.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
personally I don't think it's a great movie, but it
has the craziest opening sceneI've ever seen in a horror film
and I really give Ghost Shipcredit just for that particular
scene.
But apparently it was filmed onQueen Mary and also the Aviator
, the movie Pearl Harbor andalso the Poseidon Adventure.
So Queen Mary could hold about2,100 passengers and also

(14:13):
including 1,100 crew members.
That's a lot of people on oneboat.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
That's a lot of people.
Hey, a sidebar.
Ever since we've been recordingthis episode, lights have been
flickering in here.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Where.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
To your right.
Lights have been flickering onhere.
Has anyone has to your right?
Lights have been flickering onset, have they not?
They've legit been flickeringon set, and even when we were
filming the last episode, Ididn't say anything.
But behind us, here we go.
Okay, whatever, sorry, anyway,go on maybe it's an electrical
shortage, okay go go to fuck onthat man go to fuck on.
Go to fuck on.
Carry the fuck on jake go.
Maybe it's the ghost, okay.
Carry the fuck on.

(14:43):
Then man Go to fuck on.
Go to fuck on.
Carry the fuck on Jake Go.
Maybe it's the ghost Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Carry the fuck on.
Come on.
So it was active between 1936and 1967.
It did over 1,000 transatlanticcrossings and carried over 2
million passengers during itsuse.
That's pretty wild, that 2million, and also 800,000 of
those people, were militarypersonnel, so it definitely got

(15:09):
some use Because they convertedthe ship over correct.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
It went from being like an entertainment ship to
they had to use it in World WarII.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
It was used around World War II as well.
Yes, and that's much of theinformation you need to know
about queen mary.
Uh, it actually do you know how?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
god's name, uh, you know what did we?
Did we ever see?
Did we ever see?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
let's do let's do a quick.
How did queen mary I'm verycurious on that, queen mary get
named.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
That's some fucking english shit man for sure I am
very curious.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
So it was was intended to name the ship
Victoria, in keeping with thecompany tradition of giving its
ships names ending.
But when companyrepresentatives asked King
George V permission to name theocean liner after Britain's
greatest queen, he said his wifeMary would be delighted.
So it was named after his wife.
Imagine just like chilling.
And then your husband's likehey, I named a notion liner out

(16:06):
of y'all thanks, honey, and it'sreally sweet, it's crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
We're built different back then.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, they were just chilling about, and I did this
for you now when I'm dreaming.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Like I said, I've never had experiences on queen
mary, but I'm just the historyof living out here in california
.
You hear so much about it.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yep, there's a lot of incidents that have happened
yes, so there is approximatelyfour incidents that took place,
which is what eventually gave itits haunted history, one of the
biggest ones being the worldwar ii collision, in which uh
queen mary collided with anescort ship that killed over 300
sailors.
Now the 300 sailors were killedin the other ship, but

(16:49):
apparently their spiritsremained resonant on queen mary
itself, because it caused thetragedy makes sense.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Energy is attached to it.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, absolutely, and does that make sense?
Yeah, but that's crazy.
So it so what I ended upreading about this?
I don't even think I wrote thisdown, but they would purposely
not stop for anything, even ifsomeone fell off the ship, like
they wouldn't stop because, theyhad to stick to a certain
protocol to arrive to itsdestination by a certain time
because they were really fixatedon being the fastest of

(17:20):
whatever kind of like.
How titanic had to like go fastand then be to avoid icebergs.
They were like nope, theywanted to keep their pace, they
didn't slow down, yeah theywould not stop for anyone if I
don't know if I believe no, I'mbeing serious, that's inhumane.
It is inhumane.
I don't know.
You should listen to the penderstep, is there?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
you want to talk?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
about inhumane uh, another incident that took place
they call it the door incidentand this is one of the most
famous ghost stories.
So Door 13 is a door that wentinto the engine room and a young
crewman was crushed to death bythe heavy, watertight door
during a drill and supposedlyhis ghost still resides there.

(18:00):
But apparently when he died heapparently released a guttural
scream and apparently that canbe heard to this very day.
Is this guttural scream whenthe door shut on him?
Another one this is also one ofthe more famous ones was
multiple pool drownings thattook place in the pool on the
ship, in the first classswimming pool.

(18:22):
There are reports of of femalespirits, including that of a
young girl who supposedlydrowned there.
Several women and at least onechild are believed to have
drowned in the ship's poolsduring the ship's active uh
service and we're going to go uhtalk about the ghost story
that's attached to theseincidents as well yep, and then
this is kind of like not as likepinnacle to what we discussed

(18:44):
but I feel like this incidentwe're about to discuss

Speaker 1 (18:46):
is probably to me who the darkest energy I think
would be attached to this.
Soldiers, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I was just about to say that the soldiers Uh.
So it wasn't that anythingtechnically happened directly to
the soldiers through thehappenings of the ship, but
there was a lot of uh world warii troops who have died from
illness, injuries and suicide onboard of this ship during their
crossings.
So apparently it's already beenuh, it has been uh proven that

(19:16):
there's been some sort of uhhaunted happenings that are um
tied to the world war ii troopsas well.
So bobby tied to the World WarII troops as well.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
So, bobby, should we take this?
Who is it, I don't know?
Take it.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
He's got his phone.
Well, I'm waiting for David andLaura to call.
And that was I don't know whothe fuck that was.
That might have been the ghost.
That might have been the ghost.
But, Jake, I think to talkabout this real quick, when
you're talking about the QueenMary, it's so crazy that you
have all different walks of lifeon this ship, right, you start

(19:52):
out the ship with luxury andbars and nice rooms and parties
and just pure luxury.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, pure luxury.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I got goosebumps talking about this right now,
pure luxury.
And then the ship.
I got goosebumps talking aboutthis right now, pure luxury.
And then the ship gets turnedinto just this haunted
attraction.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
No, no, no, Pure hell .

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh, pure hell for some people, absolutely, it's
just such a crazy, so imaginethe energy that's trapped on
this ship.
When we talk about energy beingattached to places, the
contrast is crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I get what your point is.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
You know what I?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
mean.
It's just so no it makes sense,because when we discussed on
our last episode, the PennhurstAsylum, it's like it makes sense
for there to be dark energy ina place like that.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Batesville, Texas, keeps calling me.
Who the fuck's Batesville?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Texas.
I don't know, I don't trust anynumber from Texas.
It's like man.
But gosh, I ADHD, where you'rein a train of thought and then
you lose your train of thought.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
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Recording you ordered a food they don't have.
What the fuck are you laughingabout?
I think that's hilarious.
So, I was talking about thecontrast.
So when you think at Pennhurst,you think of the idea that, oh
yeah, this place has darkhistory, Therefore dark stuff is
attached to it.
What you don't get too often isa luxurious environment that

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also has dark energy attached toit as well, so that the the
juxtaposition that's what I'mtrying to say, the luxury and
darkness can be a little bitjarring, probably for some
people who do experience likesupernatural.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
That's what I'm trying to say, like at penhurst,
like there it's all dark, it'snothing.
Nothing there is good, but thishas got a.
It's just so, I don't know.
It's so just, I don't know so.
Ends of the spectrum.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's crazy well we can.
What we can go into right nowuh is some of the ghost stories
that uh that took place, andsome of them are correlated with
some of the incidents thathappened on queen mary, and
we're going to talk about door13 first.
I wrote a little uh a thing forthis.
So in the engine room of thequeen mary, john henry operated
the water tight doors in the1960s.

(22:16):
He was just a crewman whoworked on the machinery within
the ship.
On a foggy morning, a routinedrill turned deadly as the alarm
sounded and door slammed, thatone door slammed shut one by one
.
Door 13 closed before johncould fully pass through.
He was crushed instantly.
He died quickly, but it was avery loud death, a guttural moan

(22:38):
, a horror.
It was a horrible tragedy thateventually led to the legend of
his spirit still haunting theship.
When walking to the engine room,you need to pause at the door
where he died from.
I like how we explain what youneed to do.
You will feel a sudden chill.
Others have reported that yourcamera will die on site in this

(23:00):
location, not allowing you todocument the experience.
Many have reported a man in ablue and blue cover uh, blue
coat, gold, sorry coveralls,blue coveralls, uh.
And a dirty cap walks towardthem in this very area with an
vanishes, right before it getstoo close.
So you will see this figure,you're approaching it slowly and
then, boom, it disappears.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Imagine that, like he thinks he's still working or
some shit.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's like he's still working and it's not a shadow
figure.
It's an actual operation ofprobably what he looked like
during his final minutes when hepassed away.
So I feel like, if we want todo a live show on queen mary I
don't know how plausible that isthat would be a perfect
location to start with becauseright there start right there,
because that's such a tragic wayto go, bro.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
We've been saying we're going to do every episode.
We're going to places we got topick one.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's how we manifest, is it, I know?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
but are we going to pennhurst?
We're going to to Shades ofDeath.
Are we going to fucking RitzTheater?
Are we going to Tower of QueenMary?
No, this is what we'll do.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
We're going to do Pennhurst.
We're going to do Queen Mary.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
We're going to do the Ritz.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
We're going to do every the little girl in the
pool.
The first class swimming poolin the queen mary has been dry
for years, completely unused.
In the 1930s it was occupiedwith laughter and champagne.
Now it's sealed off, but itdoesn't mean it's still not
still being used by the formerpassengers that's cool guards
and maintenance workers reporthearing water sloshing and bare

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feet pattering on the towel,though the pool hasn.
The pool hasn't held water sincethe 60s.
So imagine working on QueenMary.
You know this room is shut off,you know the pool is empty, but
you'll just hear peoplesplashing in the pool in the
distance.
I don't know what that feelslike.
I don't know what it feels liketo hear something, knowing it

(24:52):
doesn't logically make sense,because that's not what the
current environment is.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, like that blows my mind.
Yeah, I saw, I was reading toowhere the guard, uh the guard
that walks the halls there wouldhear a little girl singing ring
around the rosy.
I mean, yeah, I don't know thatthat starts getting a little
too real.
Yeah, that's like, come on,that sounds a little bit um,
like, all right, you want tojust have your name in the paper
.
Typical.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, luis, who are you?
Come on something else, but Ijust feel like kids in the pool.
First off, that makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
You don't play ring around the rosy in a pool no,
but I yeah, I'm not buying thisone.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I'm not buying that one either't buy this story.
I just feel like, wow, I'm notfeeling it, you're skeptic?
I'm not skeptic.
I just don't feel this one.
This one seems like to me.
It just feels like bullshit.
I don't know well.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
First off, I don't think maybe the louis, the louis
part, the louise part, the hisstory.
I don't think that storyparticularly is true, especially
the detail just makes no sense.
But I do believe that if therewas a drowning in the pool that
seems very reminiscent of what ahaunting would be like you know
.
I mean you would hear thisflashing in the pool and it's
very possible and, honestly,when we get on the uh a call

(26:03):
with uh david and alora, theycan let us know personally if
they experienced anything Idon't think david went.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I think it was a lord .

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I had a video of laura on it yeah, but uh,
apparently, according to thisguy, he turned and leave, he and
he apparently saw this littlegirl, like soaked pale skin,
maybe six-year-old, staring athim from the diving board.
Her dress was stoked, her mouthdidn't move, but he heard the
whisper come swim.
It just sounds too convenientthat's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's just like come on, that's like that.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I'm not buying this one that's like B-level horror
film.
You're like, oh yeah, we'veseen this one before.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
It's like C-level Done it C-level, Get it Schiff.
It went over your head.
No, it didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, it did.
But, that was very clever.
Actually.
You should give your props forthat, thank you.
And then the last story that wehave written down for this,
they call it the Gray Ghost.
This one I actually foundpretty interesting.
So the Queen Mary was known asthe.
The Queen Mary was known as theGray Ghost Today.

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Long after the Queen Mary foundher permanent home in Long
Beach, visitors and crewreported chilling encounters
tied to that night.
Some claim to her phantomscreams.
So apparently they hear phantomscreams on the queen mary and
also the sound of rushing waterechoing through the lower ducts.
So this, this boat, has beenstationary for what?
60 years?
And people will be on the boatand they say they can hear the

(27:25):
boat moving, even though it'snot moving and they can see
sailors and stuff like vanish.
Yeah, I believe that I don'tknow why that shit feels like
real to me, and I can't help butfeel like the phantom screams
are probably tied into the, theboat wreck that took place back
in world war ii I think that thesoldiers suicides.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I feel like um just the lost souls man yeah, you
know what I?
Mean like oh, absolutely, Idon't know that, that to me when
I, when we talk about it, Ijust go on feelings of certain
things Like again that kidsthing.
I don't know, Maybe it's true,but we talk about the soldiers
and we talk about the huge, likejump from luxury and champagne
and swimming and then you go tolike suicides, World War II.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
It feels, heavy.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
You should watch Ghost Ship honestly.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I think I might check it out, that's literally how
the boat is represented.
Like.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Honestly, that's literally how the boat is
represented.
Like this luxury boat, allthese rich people are just on
the boat.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I want to check it out, maybe we do it for a
Patreon movie night.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
We could do that.
That's actually a good idea.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
We do need to do Heretic first though, yes, we do
.
But we'll do Ghost Ship, but weonly need to watch the first 15
minutes and then we can turn itoff.
It's really.
The rest of the movie is reallynot that good, yep, do you have
?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
uh you have notes on uh the queen mary episode of
fear yeah, yeah, I think I wentover them a little bit.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, I do have the notes, so I'm glad you brought
that up because I did type thisdown.
Yep, so this was some of thestuff that the contestants
because they're technicallycontestants experience.
So the crew experiencedmysterious sounds, cold spots,
so they had cold chills and alsostrange shadows.
I wonder if they I wonder itwould be shadow people like dark
spirits and stuff.
I'm trying to think of whatdarkness would have took place

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on the ship to the suicide.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
You think that?
Would be the dark energy ofcourse, bro, or or this, or the
at war.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, because I guess there would be a lot of
negative energy tied to thatidea and then one of the most
eerie moments involved thecontestants hearing footsteps
and whispers from the ship'sengine room, which is where door
13 was.
So I find that very notcoincidental at all.
Actually, it seems pretty onpoint with what the ship is
known for.

(29:24):
The contestants were alsoparticularly spooked by the
ship's infamous haunted areas,such as cabin B340 and the
engine room, both known forghostly activity linked to
tragic past events, one of themincluding john.
And then, throughout theepisode, the crew faced their
fears, but the lingering,unexplained paranormal phenomena
, including strange noises andghostly encounters, left them

(29:45):
unsettled.
I do remember the ending ofthis episode where you can tell
that the people who actuallylike committed to the knights
there they did walk away likefucked up fucked up and like a
little bit change from the showand I'm sure it was worth the
money just being ruined for therest of your life.
No, that's what you're off.
So, uh, yeah, definitely.

(30:07):
I wonder if we should look upMTV fear, see if it's anywhere
we have to find oh.
I guarantee it's on YouTube orsome shit.
Yeah, I want to find that, butbefore we go any further, when
you said you visited, you didn'treally have any particular I
didn't have any experience.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I was there on a tattoo, fucking convention, zero
, like nothing.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
And I apparently joined an unwarranted wedding.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, we got to go back to that one, but David and
Laura.
So, yeah, we got to go back tothat one, but but, uh, david and
laura are going to join us herein a second.
Uh, I don't think david wasthere, but alora was there, so
let's, let me, let me try to getthem on the line.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Hopefully this shit works better I'm curious to see
yeah, me too.
I'm curious to see if there'sany overlapping of what we
discussed, like with herexperiences because I want to
know is it know?
Is it going to work?
Make me a believer.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh, right away Right away.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Hey, hello, first try , we got it.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Hello, how are you guys?
How are you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Good, how are you?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
We are good.
We are on episode six and wewere talking about the lovely
Queen Mary, or five.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
What happens when we're at episode 120, you're
like 175.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Bro, the other day the other day someone asked me
how old I am and I was like, oh,I'm 35.
No, you're not Right, I evenknow you're 35.
I thought I was 35 for a longtime.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's just how disassociated we are lately, but
I'm 36 right now right, yeah,you're 36.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yes, you're 36 right now Bobby.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I don't know, I got a lot of shit going on.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I'm 37, soon to be 38 .
I got a lot of shit going on.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
But David and Laura, we're episode 5.
Queen Mary.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yes, we want to know things about this place because,
we did.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
We did some research and there was definitely some
interesting stories attached toit uh, one involving a boat
crash that killed 300 people.
Uh, another one involving thedrowning of a girl in a pool and
a guy getting crushed, the guygetting crushed.
And I was very curious whenlaura I think it was laura,
you're the one that yeah, wentto yes, correct I was wondering
if there's going to be anyoverlap with what you experience

(32:13):
while you're there, becausesome of these stories are very
interesting.
But we we bobby and I came tosome sort of agreement that
maybe the little girl in thepool may be a little.
It might be a farce and may notbe as true as we think.
It is just pending on readingthe story.
So I was wondering if you couldmaybe validate or not validate
that?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
yeah, so we.
Unfortunately, when we went,the pool was not open because
the taps were breaking and theydidn't want people there but, we
did kind of like, we kind ofhung in front or whatever.
But there is the little girl.
Jackie drowned that pool.
Um, I believe, somewhere on theinternet I remember seeing a

(32:56):
photo of a girl in the pool okayI'd have to look deeper, um,
but definitely you can feelsomething when you're in that
area.
One percent um, it's notnegative, it just sense that
there was something tragic there.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, all right so maybe not complete.
Yeah, I was very curiousAnything else like why you're
there, like anything specificthat really truly stands out.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I got the video, laura.
I'm going to show it at the endof this episode now, so you
can't hide from this.
That was great.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
My biggest thing was oh my God, they caught that on
camera.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
I know, maybe we save that for the end, or do you
want to tell them what happened?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you can save it till the end,
but let's just thought there wasa.
Okay.
So in my defense, on every shipthat I've ever been on, the
portholes in the ship, akawindows, don't have glass in
them.
So I wanted to see what was inthe way on the other side of the

(34:00):
glass or the hole.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
So yeah, she, she basically called some activity
there, but she, but she alsocalled, called cushion.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, my head.
For days I had a big big egg onmy head, so let's just leave it
.
For days I had a big big egg onmy head, so let's just leave it
at that.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I don't mean to laugh , but I saw the video and I'm
not going to lie to you, laura,I laughed.
You know what I laughed after?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I think I've watched it on repeat a few times.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
See why I need you guys tenting out outside of
Pennhurst.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
If I hit my head and I have an egg on my head, I'm
going to be tended to my bestfriend, lexi.
Pretty much every time she's ina bad mood because she watches
the video.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's funny Now, laura in that video also on top
of that.
Now I did see the light come onin the video.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, so there was nobody in that little hallway
there and you know my friendscaught the light.
Come on in the video.
Yeah, so there was nobody inthat little hallway there and
you know my friends caught thelight going on.
Weird because, if you see, myback was turned to it.
I saw the light go on too,which is weird because I had my
back to it.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Like, thinking back at it, I'm like wait, I saw that
light.
I'm not even facing it Right,which is weird.
Yeah, so I saw that like I'mnot even facing it right, which
is weird, uh, yeah.
So I was looking to see ifthere was anybody, you know,
left or right in that hall, butwe had confirmed with anybody in
that area that there was nobodyin that way, and it went on
that's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
That would.
That would probably be just uh,that would be a burst of energy
.
You know, yeah, somethingtrying to manifest, yeah, and
that's that's.
That's, that's just like alighten up yeah you know.
So that's what it sounds yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
So, like you know, with going on the ship and
entering the ship, yeah, it'sthis weird nostalgic feeling.
The minute you get on the shipit's almost like you can see
what it's like.
Back in the day they prettymuch kept it like original, so
it does have like a really coolenergy when you get on, it's a

(35:58):
really cool ship.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
It's like nostalgia, yeah, it's really cool to be on
that ship, I will agree yeah, Ihave a weird question actually
yes I remember during the shadesof death episode.
Uh, you briefly mentioned abouthow when it's lightning or
thundering, it can sometimesamplify active paranormal

(36:20):
activity.
My question is can this applyto water?
Since the show is on water doeswater?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
That's a good question.
I would say it's probablyamplified times 10.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I was curious what your approach is to that.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, so whenever you have water near a location that
has activity, the theory isthat the water gives the energy.
If you think about it, theycreate energy with water.
The movement of the water willcreate an energy field of energy
for the spirits to use, fieldof energy for the spirits to use

(36:57):
.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
So that's why a lot of ships have a lot of stuff
like that that is on water tendsto have activity, so imagine
being on queen mary during astormy night oh man, fuck that.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
No, fuck yeah yeah, that little girl in the pool
will be skipping down thehallways it's so funny you know,
this ever, ever since you guysbeen on all the episodes we've
done so far, we've either I'mnot trying to be funny we've
either had lights flicker andlike right now, your audio keeps
like cutting in, cutting out,cutting in, cutting out, and

(37:23):
I've never heard that before,like how it's doing it, like
this and it didn't do that rightat the beginning.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
No, no, no, it's just I don't.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I've never.
We've recorded a millionpodcasts this is.
This is very right now.
I want to know what'sinterfering it.
Something is.
The spirits don't want to talkabout it.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
I've had experiences over the years talking to
clients, customers.
They'll be sitting here talkingto me on the phone while
they're in their home and shithappens because they're
acknowledging, they'reacknowledging.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I'm telling you, I think this is something going on
.
I'll be honest with you, eversince I started doing research
on all this stuff and reallystarted diving down this, path
my phone has been acting up likeinsane like insane yeah, you
know it's opening yourself up.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'm opened up the portal is open, I will say this
might seem like a weirdreference, but the the audio
cutting in and out it's givingme very much a vinyl player vibe
.
I don't know how to explain it,but it's like you know it's
like old school.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
It's like what we're talking about the 19, you know,
yeah, yeah, I feel like it'slike you're on queen, yeah, I
feel like your, your audio is ona vinyl right now.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
It's somewhere going on right now.
Yeah, it's very strange.
There's something weird in here.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Hey, laura, I have a question for you Because, with
this ship being so, when itfirst started out, it was so
luxury, right it?

Speaker 4 (38:47):
was so luxurious.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
It was so first class and swimming pools and
champagne, multiple bars anddance hall and nice hotel rooms.
And there was just pure luxuryto it.
Feel to it Right.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
So you have that.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
So you have that there, and then you take the
polar opposite of that and yougo to World War II with the ship
.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, what kind of energy Was it used for the
actual war or just transportingpeople?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
but I believe it was it transported the soldiers.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Gotcha yeah, yeah On the ship.
They say they transported likeover 800,000 soldiers, I think,
over the span of like 40 years,I believe.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, and I believe there was an accident.
I think it was they were using.
They were using it for, like,some sort of rest function, was,
I think it was.
They were using it for somesort of rest function.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Was that what it was?
They ended up hitting anothership, I believe, and it killed
over 300 sailors.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
That's what it was.
Yes, I remember that story.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Were you familiar with the Door 13 story when you
were there, about the man thatgot crushed by the door?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I think we did hear that story.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yes, that one was pretty disturbing and kind of
sad yeah yeah, and then therewas their date room b340.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I don't know if I heard anything about that uh,
you know what?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
that's actually the one story I did not write down,
or can you give us a little bitof a briefing on what?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
yeah, so, supposedly there was a woman right in the
room, um, when it was on voyageor whatever, um, but they get a
lot of light faucets turning onand off and figures.
Now, um, they brought us intothat room.
The minute we walked in therewe smelled lilacs.
We were standing next next to alilac tree and a funny story is

(40:34):
, before we were okay, before wegot to that room, they told us
they were taking on that statestate room hall.
While we were down the hall wedidn't have our cameras on at
all, seeing this weird shadowfigure like pop, because the
doors are kind of like likeright on the hallway, they're
kind of like indented a littlebit, and we kept seeing like

(40:55):
this, like dark shadow, like pop, out from all the doors.
Now the last room that we sawthe shadow figure dart out from
was room b40, the room we weregoing to okay so it's at that
door walk

Speaker 2 (41:11):
which I guess that's the room I'm staying in.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's the room Jake will be staying in.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Bobby, we were just joking about how I'm going to
just do an episode of a liveepisode, of every single episode
we do, every single one, we do.
Queen Mary Panahers Shades ofDeath.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Every single one, the Ritz.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yeah, so, al yeah, absolutely, they were playing
with all of our equipment.
We went into one ballroom.
We had a lot of tripwire.
Actually, you know, in theballrooms we put the you know
the tripwire right across the.
You know where the dance floorwould be.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Like we did in Salem, like the same kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
It's like the little individuallights and we started playing
music.
That would have been, you know,back in the time.
Those lights just startedlighting up, like all over the
place.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Would you say the spirits are definitely more on
the polite side as opposed tolike maybe malicious.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Never felt anything negativethere.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Oh crazy.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
This is one I really want to explore.
We're saying I've only beenthere once and it was for, like,
a tattoo convention.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Many, many, many years ago and I was there once
and there was an obnoxiouswedding.
Yeah, so that's something.
Is that's actually the scariestpart that?

Speaker 3 (42:30):
is my trip to queen there was a wedding when we went
there too that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Uh, allure was this.
Is this a place that you highlyrecommend us?
I mean, it's in our backyard.
Is this somewhere we should go,we should go explore, or is
this a pass?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I think we should, because we were only on the ship
for maybe three hours.
Total One to ten, maybe seven.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
A seven out of ten.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
So Pennhurst is still the number one choice.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
We didn't ask you in the last episode Is that ten out
of ten Is Pennhurst, 10 out of10?
, 10.
, 10.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
That's 20.
David don't tell me that.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Why.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
You don't believe.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
It's insane.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Well, I told you if I get harmed it doesn't matter if
a spirit harms me.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
If I get harmed, I want you guys tenting outside to
save me.
All right, to save anyone allright.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Well, there it is, queen mary.
We'll protect you, jake.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it, queen mary,seven out of ten you got.
You gave black craft salem, Ithink.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Eight or nine out of ten, I think, yeah, interesting
and I think so, and I think it'sbecause you couldn't really do
a private investigation on a lotof times.
We do investigations, we wantthem private, we want nobody on
the property gotcha it's reallyhard on the ship.
Really hard because there's gasstaying.
Rent out the whole ship, itwould be yeah it would be insane
price damn.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
So you would probably capture some of the craziest
shit ever if it was just no oneelse on the ship oh, if, oh, I
wonder what mtv paid to rent outthe whole ship.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
That's crazy they probably closed off half the
ship yeah, that makes sense.
That's funny there's even evenin the engine room there's, you
know, stories of a man they callhim grumpy, growling in
people's ears.
Um, there's stories a womandisappearing out of, uh, the
garden room.
In the people see her sittingin the chair and then all of a

(44:19):
sudden she disappears.
So there's a lot of activitythere, but it's.
It's hard to isolate it, tomake you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, be cool to be a spirit on the ship, especially
an active one that's just goingplaces.
So then you just get the sightsee while you're haunting it you
know what?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
uh right, have you guys ever heard of?
Uh the rave in milwaukee,wisconsin, the music venue no,
okay, I've never heard of thisthat might be an episode in the
future that I think, uh, weshould definitely.
If you guys never ghost huntedit we.
I've been there a lot on tourand uh, yeah, there's a swimming
pool when we keep talking.
There's a swimming pool that itreminds me it's like the most

(44:57):
haunted place in this venue.
You guys should google it realquick and everyone that's
listening search milwaukee,wisconsin.
The rave and fun well, not funfact, but crazy fact across the
street from it was the jeffreydahmer uh apartments oh god yeah
so that whole energy, but wekeep talking about the swimming
pool on the ship.
Uh, I've got to do ghost toursat this place, milwaukee the

(45:19):
rave.
We should, we should do that asan episode coming up.
I would love that we should usfor just talk about it and then
we should go explore it too, aswe're mapping out kind of.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I think that's.
This is gonna be such a wellyou know what's funny.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Well, you know what's funny?
We actually just got asked it'sfunny.
Well, the reason why I'mbringing this up too is, uh, we
just got asked to sponsorMilwaukee metal fest and it's
inside the rave oh, that's right, we did.
So I'm thinking about doing it.
I'm thinking about should we doit?
Maybe we do it for that reasonand we should just go ghost hunt
?
Yeah right, Let us do a thingwith it.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
So we're going to sell merch, but we're really
here for this we're going to doa pop up.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
We're here to see the ghost.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I think that's a great idea Hit T-Birds with one
that actually can fund the trip.
That's what I'm thinkingExactly.
Let's do it.
We appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
We appreciate you guys being here.
Queen Mary, you heard it first.
There it is 7 out of 10.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
I like it 7 out of 10 .

Speaker 1 (46:13):
David, just from your gut feeling.
As being an expert, I know younever were there.
What would you give it just bylooking at it?

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Just by looking at the Queen Mary.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
It's on water.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Water it means it's amplified I mean just some of
the stories that I've heard.
I mean, like I said, you're notable, like she said, you're not
able to get the full paranormalfix out of it, you know right I
wouldn't since investigated, Iwould have to give it a five I
knew you were gonna say a fiveout of ten.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
I knew that's where you were going was.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
That was spirit telling you that Bobby, the
spirit, spoke to me.
The one that's flicking thelight next to me, shit, jake's
playing around.
Jake's playing around.
I am playing around.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I will play around.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
You're going to get a visit from the sleep app when I
say fuck around and find outSleep app.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
What's it called the?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
paralysis, oh yeah, I would like to do an episode
specifically on Keep playingaround.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
I have a crazy sleep paralysis story.
Would you do that?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
This is what we should do because I was talking
to Bobby the other day about howI don't think every episode
always has to be a location.
I also think we can discussspecific types of happenings
that just occur with every day?
Yeah, I think sleep paralysis.
I feel like there's a seriesthere where people can tell
their stories.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
It only happened to me once and it just it sticks
with me, Like it happened to melast night.
That was such a dominantexperience and I know other
people experience it far moreoften than I have.
I feel like there's definitelysomething to discuss there.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I give this one once a month I have.
I feel like there's definitelysomething to discuss there.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I have scars from it, oh wow, like physical, mental.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, no physical scars.
Wow, it's pretty scary.
It's what pretty muchsolidified me investigating,
because I knew what that wasYou're going to see me in the
morning and I'm just like notdark.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I'm going to have dark circles under my eyes.
I'm not sleeping anymore.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
It's funny.
It's funny you should say thatand that's what made you
investigate, because I have aninsane, insane sleep paralysis
story too.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
And it involves like a woman sleep, like a sleep
demon, woman sleep demon.
I don't know what you call it,but you've told me this this
story is so crazy, I'm gonnasave it, I'm not even gonna hint
at it.
But I will tell you one thing Isaw death in this sleep
paralysis thing and I woke upthe next day and someone died
very, very close to myself andfamily and I saw another, uh

(48:41):
like premonition thing happen inmy dream right is that the way
where I'm?
trying it was like a pro, likethat's correct and I woke up and
those things happened, which wewill talk about in another
episode and and in that samesleep paralysis thing, it's what
made me start black craft, bythe way, so it's funny that you
should link it back to this.
Got you into investigation.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
This got me into it's a life changing moment.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
I also get a story for the both of you that
involves me and Bobby as wellwhen we were younger, in which I
had a premonition oh yeah,that's just crazy.
Let's save it, we're gonna saveit and to this very day, I
don't really know how to explainwhat happened, but it happened
and it still freaks me out.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
And it involves death .
I hate death.
All right, laura David.
Thank you guys so much forjoining us.
You heard it there.
David never toured it.
He's given it a 5 out of 10.
Laura's been there.
She got a concussion.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
She hit her head and I went there and there was a
terrible wedding party.
I give it a 110.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
I'm not going to rate it.
I'm not going to rate itbecause, I don't know, but thank
you guys for being here andwe'll see you next episode.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
All right, yeah, you're welcome.
Sounds good.
Y'all have a good one, muchlove.
Thank you, bye, bye.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Okay, bye, I love them, me too.
Staple on this show.
Uh, paranormal hangover wasmentioned.
The other we're gonna make at-shirt out of that.
Yeah, we need.
We need to get some paranormalhangover.
That's probably what you feellike after sleep paralysis oh
god, dude, that's sleepparalysis there there's
definitely a couple episodesinvolving sleep paralysis,

(50:14):
because I, if you want to talkabout something that stuck with
me, it was that night when I hadsleep paralysis for a couple
hours and just feelingcompletely hopeless.
It was yeah, bizarre,terrifying leave a comment.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Leave a comment if you've had some sleep paralysis
because I know, I know ithappens a lot.
I hate even talking about it,how much we've been talking
about, because I feel like yougive it power and I feel like
it's going to happen to me now Ithink sleep paralysis is far
more terrifying than the idea ofwitnessing an apparition in an
abandoned place because notbeing able to have control of
your own body that to me, isterrifying.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I don't want to talk about it anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Alright man, episode 5, queen Mary, queen, mary,
Queen, mary, king Harry, I wantto go see it.
I want to go explore this onein person too.
I'll be honest with you.
It's one that I'm just going tobe completely honest, I'm not
really drawn to.
There's something about it.
I don't really.
I don't know.
Maybe if we I think I got toget there because I have heard
crazy stories from other.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Let's do hotel room.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I want to like if we're going to do it.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
We got to go do it there.
Sleep there, get married there,get married.
No, no completely turned me offof ever having a reception
there, that's it.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Well, uh, queen mary, episode five.
Thanks again everyone that'sfollowing us on youtube, make
sure you like, subscribe it.
If you're listening to this onapple and spotify much love,
let's keep helping us chart.
We gotta go, we gotta go, wegot a chart paranormal hangover.
Paranormal hangover is real.
It it is.
It is real.
Thanks for tuning in and wewill see you next episode.
We are going to New Orleans,new Orleans.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
New Orleans?
I don't know New Orleans, it'slike Creek Creek.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Tomato tomato, tomato tomato potato, potato.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Exactly Episode six coming up.
We're going to New.