April 20, 2025 • 40 mins
Step into the mysterious world of the Hotel Monteleone, where luxury and the supernatural have coexisted for over 140 years in the heart of New Orleans. Unlike many haunted locations with dark histories, this elegant establishment offers a fascinating glimpse into the more subtle side of paranormal phenomena.
From the moment you walk through its doors, Hotel Monteleone beckons with stories of ghostly encounters that don't terrify but rather intrigue. The most famous spectral resident is young Maurice Begier, a child who tragically passed away from a sudden illness while staying at the hotel in the late 1800s. His playful spirit is said to roam the 14th floor—a floor that technically doesn't exist in the hotel's numbering system. Guests report hearing children's laughter in empty hallways and feeling unseen hands tugging at their clothing.
What truly sets Hotel Monteleone apart is the reported "time slip phenomenon," where visitors suddenly feel transported between dimensions, simultaneously experiencing the present day and glimpses of the early 1900s. These "thin spots," as paranormal researchers call them, offer rare moments where the veil between time periods temporarily weakens. Add to this the phantom restaurant door that opens and closes by itself, and the ghost of an invisible bellhop who still makes his rounds, and you have a hotel where the past never truly checked out.
As we explore locations throughout this season, Hotel Monteleone reminds us that hauntings come in many forms. Not all paranormal activity stems from tragedy or violence—sometimes spirits simply remain in places they loved. Have you ever experienced something you couldn't explain in a historic location? We'd love to hear your stories as we continue our journey through America's most haunted places.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are on the road to New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
New Orleans.
Is it New Orleans or NewOrleans New?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Orleans, I don't know .
Is it Creek or Crick?
Is it tomato or is it tomato?
Is it you or is it?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
yins.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Is it there?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
or there Is it potato , potato, tomato, tomato.
Is it your or your?
Is it zucchini or?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
zucchini.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Okay, we're done.
Episode six hotel montelion.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh, I like it now.
It's very we are in.
We are going to a state herethat you love.
I love louisiana like love,love, love louisiana.
I've been there many times ontour.
I love, love that for you.
I've been in new orleans a lot.
I'm just gonna go with neworleans, that's me really I'm,
that's what I'm, that's what I'msaying so hot and muggy down
(00:53):
there no, I'm saying how I'mpronouncing it new orleans.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh yeah, it's new orleans, I want to say new
orleans, in case people areupset about it um, I love the
vibe of the town.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You could feel just the history.
You could feel the historythere.
I've been there many times.
I love it.
If you're down with this, jake,as we kickstart the New Orleans
, I would like to do maybe likethree episodes here.
Let's stay in this region for aminute.
How we went back to back on PA.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I feel like we can probably do a lot more episodes
than three episodes, at leasttwo At least two.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
At least two, okay, because there's next episode.
Okay that I want to go down.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Ooh, go ahead.
La Louise, la Louise.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
La.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Louise.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Why is everything so fucking hard to pronounce?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's La Louise Mansion, la Louise.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
This is one that American Horror Story is
actually based off of.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh okay yeah, the how , I don't know what season.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I don't know what season is.
Uh, I don't fucking know.
They have so many seasons Idon't know, but I have american
horror murder house hotel thewitch one, the, the look it up
man.
Look at american horror story.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Ahs for short.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, hotel Monteleone, but there's
something about, yeah, well,that house that I want to talk
about.
We should do it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Next episode we're going to do it next episode.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
He told me about this house after I already sent him
the information on the hotel theinteresting thing about that
house that I want to explore isNicholas Cage lived in that
house.
Nicholas Cage, yeah, andNicholas Cage moved out of that
house and it's weird His wholecareer and financial trouble
(02:35):
started happening after he movedout of that house and he
admitted that shit happened inthat house, but he will not talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
There's a good chance he may have just been bad with
his finances during this time.
I don't know.
But but all our technology?
Has been fucking up since westarted this show, but maybe he
was bad with his financesbecause of the energy that was
in the mansion.
Dun dun, dun, dun, dun dun,nicholas cage.
Only you can find a way toincorporate.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Nicolas Cage into a haunted house.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Has he done any haunted scary oh?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
yeah, he's done a couple of scary movies.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's not Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Ghost Rider's scary.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Of all the movies you can think of you think of Ghost
Rider.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh, we're talking about Ghost.
Jake believes in ghosts,episode 6.
Here we go.
Oh man, we're in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We're going over a little hotel, so this is going
to be a little bit more of alighthearted episode.
It's not as near as dark as thePennhurst Asylum and definitely
doesn't have any kind oftragedy that maybe Queen Mary
endured in its history, but weare going to talk about so.
If anybody loves horror films,I'm always going to probably
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reference a horror movie eachepisode.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now, Actually I'm going to make that a thing.
I like that.
That needs to be your stick.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think it's important that people know
horror cinema.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You need a stick, and that's your stick, that's my
stick, that's your stick.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So there's this movie called the Innkeepers, and it's
the same director who did Houseof the Devil and also did the X
trilogy, which was also Maxineand Pearl.
Oh, I love that and theInnkeepers is a wonderful slow
burn horror film that is veryreminiscent of the more calm
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instances of hauntings becauseit's not dramatic, nothing like
you would probably experience atthe Panahearse Hotel or not
hotel asylum.
But it was just reminding me ofthat movie when I continue on
reading stories about this place.
So we're going to go a littlebit into the history.
So it was built back in 1886 inNew Orleans, louisiana, bobby's
(04:38):
favorite place on earth Not myfavorite place on earth, but I'm
drawn to it, I like this place,and it was originally designed
as a luxury hotel.
That word luxury again.
Man, luxury just loves misery,doesn't it?
Uh, it was, uh, built fortravelers, businessmen and
literary figures, uh, using itas a french quarter, and it over
time became famous not just forits luxury but also for its
(05:00):
paranormal activity.
It consisted of 15 floors andthis included historic ballrooms
, guest suites, dining, diningareas and rooftop pool.
That sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It was owned by the Mataleon family and they still
currently own it to this veryday Now is this hotel still open
to the public today, it isstill open to the public.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It is still considered a luxury hotel and it
is still considered aparanormal place to visit, if
you're interested in learningmore about the paranormal
history of this hotel.
So it's never closed.
It's been open since 1886.
Oh my God, what is with my listlately?
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And it can currently hold.
It has a capacity of 570 guestrooms.
I don't know what it is with mewith hotel rooms, but when
someone tells me there's likeover 500, 600 rooms in a hotel,
I just massive this colossalbuilding.
I just feel like that's a lotof rooms, it's a lot of people,
(05:59):
that's a lot of rooms andthere's 55 luxury suites and
it's very popular during mardigras, mardi gras time.
Speaking of margaret, have youever been down there?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I have been.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I have been like it was just chaos, pure fucking
chaos drunken behavior drunkenbehavior just shit show left and
right, around every cornertitties out last time I was a
lot of beads around next a lotof alcohol flowing, yeah last
time I was in new orleans, Iswear it felt like a a wet
doormat.
Excuse me, I'm not shitting onit.
It smelled it smelted.
(06:28):
It smelled like a wet doormat,but I also went right after it
rained, though that day I wentout walking.
It had a very weird smell I'mnot a wet doormat.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
How the fuck do you know what a wet doormat smells?
Like okay, all right, jake comeon on.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
There is over 140 years of history with the hotel
monteleone, with the reputationof being one of the most haunted
hotels in america, believe itor not.
Despite they're not having toomuch, horrible happenings that
took place here.
Uh, you can be known forhearing children's laughter in
empty hallways, unseen handstugging at clothing in cold
spots and apparitions of formerguests, including a toddler
(07:07):
named Maurice, who we're goingto talk about shortly.
Staffing-wise, it was mostlybellhops, concierges, cleaning
crews, chefs and security.
Apparently, they're known forreally good customer service.
This is a hotel.
If you want a good experience,definitely check out Hotel
Monteleon.
It makes me want to stay thereand check it out because I've
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heard a lot of good things aboutit.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
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Jake is mentally sick, mentallysick.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's also been used for an episode of Ghost Hunters,
also an episode of the DeadFiles, and also numerous
documentaries and specialscovering special coverings,
covering Haunted New Orleans,and we should do a series called
Haunted New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That's what I'm trying to say.
Why don't we, why don't we makea pact right now and go down
this rabbit hole right now?
Because I want to stay in thatregion right now, because
there's so much history there.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm curious.
So when you have visited there,you said you've been there
plenty of times.
Have you experienced anythingcurious?
So when you have visited there,you said you've been there
plenty of times.
Have your experience anythinghaunted?
No, never were you usually withpeople and probably in a public
area yeah, it was either like Iwas on tour I do.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The funniest memory I have is actually being a kid
going there with my family onvacation as, like a kid, I don't
know what the fuck we weredoing down.
I think my dad had like a workthing and we all went.
But uh, past couple times I'vebeen there that was on tour,
know what I mean.
So it was like old venues orlike I don't know.
Just the energy there is justdifferent.
If you've been there you knowwhat I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yes, I also want to do a shout out to this place
that actually is known forreceiving a lot of awards and
recognitions, such as is anofficial literary landmark
because of the close ties tofamous writers like Tennessee
Williams, Ernest Hemingway andWilliam Faulkner, and it's also
a member of the Historic Hotelsof America and often wins awards
for preservation efforts.
This sounds like a really coolexperience, and I would love to
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stay at this place one nightbecause it just seems like it's
very well kept.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Let me guess what you want.
To go there and explore first.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I want to go there and explore second, after
Pennhurst.
I think we should really gohard with Pennhurst because for
all I know.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Then you said Queen Mary.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, Queen Mary.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
First we were going to Shades of Death.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We have never gone yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Then we were going to Salem, which we've already done
.
Then we're going to RitzTheater.
We haven't even done that yet.
Then we're going to PennhurstHaven't done that yet.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Might need to find someone else to do events,
because it looks like I'm doingall of this.
I'm just giving you shit, butreally what makes this hotel
special?
It's just a very personablehotel and it has proud Sicilian
roots, and this is like a wholebunch of research I've done.
It just seems like this is agreat place to visit if you're
(09:42):
ever in New Orleans.
It may not be dark anddepressing like Pennhurst or
have some horrible tragedieslike Queen Mary, but I feel like
just for the experience alone,what made you choose this
episode?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's funny because I know nothing about this one.
Yeah, what?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
happened.
I was doing research onlocations in New Orleans and
this was right after writing theepisode for Pennhurst, and I
was just so like-.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Drawn to it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
No, I was drained, I was drained by Pennhurst and I
didn't want to do a doublewhammy and I wanted to do
something that was a little bitmore light and a little bit more
intriguing, because there's alot of ghost activity that takes
place here, but it's notnecessarily known for like
horrific happenings of any sort,and I like to discuss those
kind of hauntings too as well,because we I feel like we need
to cover the the spectrum ofhauntings.
(10:30):
You know it's not always goingto be the shadow people.
It's not always going to bedark spirits.
Sometimes it's going to besimply residual spirits, if
they're real but it's.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's interesting because a place like new orleans
it's so voodoo, dark magic.
It's very dark down there, likeit's very the energy is very
like, I believe it there's likea like voodoo.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You think you know well I will state this because
david and alora have stated thismultiple times that spirits are
capable of traveling fartherthan where their designated end
took place.
So there's a possibility thatdark things can happen at this
hotel.
But, um, and one of the darkthings and this is kind of sad
it does involve a, a boy namedmaurice.
(11:13):
Um, please excuse me if I saythis wrong begier.
I believe that's how it'spronounced maurice begier.
This is definitely the mostfamous uh story that's attached
to.
This is definitely the mostfamous uh story that's attached
to hotel monteleone.
I want to keep pronouncing itso until I get familiar with it.
Um, in the late 1800s and early1900s the big era families uh
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stayed at the monteleoneregularly.
Tragically, their young son,marie, died from a sudden
illness while they were outexploring new orleans, which
means wait.
Was he with them when he passedaway or was that the hotel when
he passed away?
Afterwards, the heartbrokenmother would return to the hotel
praying to see her son.
Over time, guests and staffbegan reporting sightings of a
young boy on the 14th floor,which technically doesn't exist
(11:57):
because the elevator skips from13 to 15.
Whoa, that's interesting.
Maurice is often seen playing,laughing and calling out for his
mother.
That's interesting.
Maurice is often seen playing,laughing and calling out for his
mother.
That's sad, first off, to betrapped at a hotel as opposed to
, maybe your home and it's alsokind of it's just sad.
You know, someone losing theirchild, that has to be so
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heartbreaking and there's such asentiment with the mother
coming back to the place to prayfor the seer child again at
this location.
That had to be such a toughexperience for that family and
it's kind of sad.
But I wouldn't say that'sobviously a dark spirit right
there because they said that youcan hear the boy laughing and
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playing and calling out to hismother.
So if you were to ever comeacross this haunting, it
wouldn't be something that wouldprobably give you chills down
your spine or anything but moreso, just very interesting to
experience.
I also want to call uh talkabout the phantom restaurant
door.
Uh, inside the hotel'srestaurant there's a mysterious
door that supposedly opens andcloses by itself, even when
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completely locked and secured.
Multiple staff members haveseen the heavy door swing open
and shut while near it, oftenduring quiet times like late at
night or early morning.
Imagine a working night shiftat this hotel.
That's literally what the movieKeepers is about.
It's about the night shift ofthe hotel management and they
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just experience all this stuff.
So some paranormal theoriessuggest the spirit of a former
guest or staff member may stillbe working and passing through,
but there's no record whatsoeverof a staff member passing on
site of the hotel.
So I'm very curious of whatwould be causing this
supernatural occurrence.
That's interesting, that one'sgood.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's definitely not the little boy, because the
little boy is trapped on the14th floor you don't know, I now
the next one we're about totalk about this is the shit of
hotels that I love, like itreminds me of the haunt or the
haunting.
It reminds me of um the shiningoh yeah like I don't know the
invisible bellhop.
Uh-huh, I like this man becauseguests have reported hearing
knockings on their door late atnight which that.
(14:03):
That scares the shit out of me,followed by some footsteps,
which scares the shit out Now.
I've never heard.
I've never heard footsteps.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Actually, I will say this, and this is probably why I
have a hard time believing inthe concept of ghosts, and I
think a lot of it when it.
When it comes to like hearingknocks or footsteps at night.
To me, I really do feel like itcan be justified by the idea of
maybe believing it's happeningas opposed to actually happening
.
I couldn't.
I'll tell you this right now.
(14:30):
This is such a stupid thing.
So growing up in my house, thisis so weird.
I get triggered.
Because my mom walked with herheels and she was heavy footed
and I would be in the house andI would just he, I would be
upstairs, my bedroom, and Iwould just hear.
I'm like, oh my god, mom iswalking again.
(14:52):
So for me, if I were to hearher footsteps, they would have
to sound like the way my momwalks in order for me to be
freaked out because, to thisvery day, I always ask my mom is
short, she's tiny, she's little.
I'm like how does this womanemit so much sound?
She's walking with some passionshe's walking with a purpose.
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That's funny.
Karen's got purpose.
Karen has got purpose.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yes, her name is karen and she's a lovely she's a
lovely, lovely young lady now jthe invisible bellhop.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Here's what I love about this is.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
People say that they open the door and they see what
the bellhop like dash around thecorner and vanish.
Okay, so it's a ghost bellhop.
It's a ghost bellhop, I feellike that's probably like maybe
Was there any record of anyonedying there that worked there
like a bellhop.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
There's no record of anyone dying.
Some guests dying there thatwork there like a bell.
There's no record of anyonedying.
Some guests they just seem thisold-fashioned bellhop.
Uh, walking down, wait, hold ona bellhop.
Is that a position?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
yeah, of course, someone who's helping you with
the luggage and stuff like that.
The fuck, why are you laughingat that.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I had this visual.
The fuck, I had this visual.
The fuck I had this visual.
You know the dolly that I usewhen I come to your place.
Yeah, I had this visual that itwas just this dolly coming down
the hallway by itself.
I didn't know it was an actualperson.
Think of a four-wheeled dolly.
I, just I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So you think the invisible bell?
You thought there was aninvisible dolly.
It just ruined the wholey.
Are you okay?
Today?
No, okay, okay, uh, this one.
This one's interesting to mebecause it is an earlier episode
.
On episode three we had joshballs on and he was talking
about how his butler yes, youknow, the caretaker of the house
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haunts his house, you know whatI really loved what he said
during the episode too is thathe takes care of the house
haunts his house.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You know what I really loved what he said during
the episode too, is that hetakes care of the house.
He cleans the house out ofrespect for the former butler,
and he believes that by doing so, it allows him to just like be
at peace with the house and Ithought that was very
fascinating and interesting thathe said that, because one
everyone's at peace when theirhouse is clean, but no one ever
really talks about why there ispeace when you have a clean
(17:08):
house and I wonder if it plays arole with energy shifting.
Of course it does.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Bro, are you kidding me?
Everyone that's listening tothis right now or watching this
right now, take a second andthink about your house.
Yeah, yeah, you sleep there.
Some of you work there.
Your life's there, your kidsare there, your wife, your
husband, whatever's there, thinkabout it.
When it's cluttered, you can't,fucking think you can't.
But when it's clean and it'snice and fresh, you can just
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like I don't know, it's yourhome.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
So imagine having a cluttered house and then dealing
with an asshole butler on topof that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You better clean this shit up, you better get your
shit together, but I feel likethat's probably what's going on
here with the bellhop.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
The bellhop probably love their job and love seeing
guests show up and just have funthere and probably enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
This is a lighthearted episode.
I like this one.
Yeah, imagine loving your jobso much that that's how you live
your afterlife.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Hey dude.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Imagine us dying.
And then we're just continuingthe podcast, we're just doing a
podcast in the afterlife.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
That'd be crazy, Like go make us chart in the
afterlife.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You can hear them discussing the story in the
distance, to this very day,charting in the afterlife is
crazy.
That would be.
I wonder who's there right now.
I wonder if Spotify and iTuneshappen.
Jesus Christ man.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
The next story is kind of interesting because the
elevator that chooses the 14thfloor.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
This is cool because we're we're talking about a
complete, a huge piece ofmachinery deciding its own fate,
deciding when, where it wantsto take you, um, so and, to be
clear, there's no 14th floor.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
There is.
Let's explain this, becausethis is where I'm confused a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So guests riding the elevator have an opt-in report
at stopping suddenly at the 14thfloor, so you're not supposed
to get on the 14th floor.
The 14th floor is shut off.
Actually, it's not you, I think, because of the whole incident
with the kid.
Really.
People die in hotels all thetime, I believe.
So I could be wrong.
Let's look this up real quickBlah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
(19:08):
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, right here.
No-transcript.
Live in now.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I think there is a 13 , but um, there's a possibility
out of respect for the familywho used to attend maybe, yeah,
maybe the hotel multiple timesthey thought out of respect for
the child passing away that theythought they should just cut
off that whole floor, but I dothink you know the elevator
choosing the 14th floor.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
We talked about many times on this, on this show,
where you don't choose the house, you don't choose the building,
it chooses you and it's almostlike god.
I would love to know all thepeople that got sent to the 14th
floor yeah, like who are thosepeople?
You know, I mean that the floorchose them.
Yeah, why?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
why it, and maybe that has to do with the fact
that, like it probably wouldn'tchoose the 14th floor if I'm on
it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
That's what I'm saying.
Probably would choose.
Oh, my ass is going right tothe 14th.
It's going straight to the 14thfloor.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm going right to 14th, and so does the door open,
and it's just what a blankfloor Like.
How does that?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
work Well, it says.
When the doors open, there'susually no one there.
The hallway feels strangelycold or heavy.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
This is also where the most paranormal sightings
happen, including seeing ghostlychildren and shadow figures
moving quickly out of the cornerof their eye.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So the ghost children make sense, because the child
passed away on the 14th floor?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It does, but I would love to know the people that are
getting chosen to go to the14th floor.
I want to go there now and goon that elevator.
I guarantee you I get sent tothe 14th floor hey, remember in
pittsburgh this is, this is anon.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
What's the term?
Non sequidor?
Yeah, yeah uh, remember when weused to have that storage space
.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yep, oh god can we tell can?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
we talk about this story real quick.
Actually we can.
I don't really remember.
We're talking about the woman.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, I'm talking about the woman and the reason
why I'm talking about this isbecause we're talking about
getting stopped on a certainfloor.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So I actually was the one who took the elevator down
and you guys experiencedsomething, only one way, in only
one way out.
Only one way, in only one wayout, experienced only one way,
in only one way out, only oneway, in only one way out.
She was gone.
Can you explain to me exactlywhat happened?
I don't, I don't.
Was witnessed by the whole.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I don't fully remember uh-huh, but I do
remember seeing a woman uh-huh,and then she was just gone.
We searched everywhere for herin the building, correct?
Yes, so let's, let's talk aboutthis.
This is very interesting, butwe got no.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I want to talk about this real quick, because I keep
telling you that I don'texperience this stuff, right
yeah, and for some reason Ialways end up in a predicament
where I'm the one notexperiencing.
I was literally by myself,that's right.
I was by myself in the elevator, so why would this ghostly
apparition choose the group ofpeople as opposed to the
vulnerable?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
person Because you're not open to it.
Because, you're not open to it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Why does the spirit choose?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
for me to not be open to it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I've been looking for this shit.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
It's the same shit when you talk about
manifestation.
If you're not open to abundance, you're not open to things that
you're close to no, you're not.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You don't think?
I don't want to experience someof this stuff, jake we kick
started this whole season offwith black craft.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You're like yeah, I'm like we're back.
You're like yeah, I'm like doyou believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
you're like no, and you know why you're closed off
because for some very odd reason, I'm always put in the
circumstance where I'm notexperiencing it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Watch us watch us and then we gotta get back to this
episode.
You got to be open to things inlife I am.
When I started Blackcraft I wasbefore I was very, very shut
off to a lot of things in life.
I didn't have my mind open tothings.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I read the book, the secret my mind opened up.
I had started attracting allthese different things.
My vision board I was.
I was open to it, I was on thatfrequency, I was on to it.
I was on that frequency, I wason that wavelength.
You can't deny wavelengths andyou cannot deny frequency.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
No, I'm not denying that you cannot deny those
things.
I'm not denying those things, Iunderstand that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
But what I'm saying to you is and this is where your
thick skull is not gettingthrough.
Well.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I told you at the beginning of this season that
you're going to piss me off andthis is one of these moments.
I'm pissing you off right now.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's just you're not open to it and you don't
understand that you're not opento it, you're not on the
wavelength of seeing thesethings, I'm going to add You're
not open to it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm going to add to this You're not the only one who
read the book the Secret.
I understand that, Jake.
I read it too, so why does that?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
not open my portal, because it's more than that.
It's more it's.
It's like thinking.
It's like, that's like asking.
That's like asking me, bro, Igo to the gym every day, but I'm
eating fucking dairy queenevery day.
I'm not getting in shape.
Well, why is it?
There's more to it than justreading the book.
There's, there's a whole many.
There's so much more to it thanthat.
There it is.
It is and I'm living fuckingproof of the secret.
(23:56):
I am it.
You can't just think you'regonna open the book and read it
and think like, oh, my life'sgoing to change.
You got to go put the actionsin, but I did.
Where am I right now?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I mean, you're on track, I'm on track.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I get it, but there's certain things that you have
not excelled in, that you'vereally wanted to excel in, that
you're just closed off to it.
Me too, me too, me too.
The ghostly man I told you hewas gonna piss me off.
Did I not say that episode one?
Did I not say he's gonna?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
piss me off, you know .
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Anyway, I want to piss you off, I'm going.
Can we get back to new orleans?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
yeah, we can talk about new orleans.
Fuck sorry, I had that, I hadto divert down below comment.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I mean, don't you agree?
I mean you got to be open tothings, but it's much more than
just reading a book.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I I wish I understood what exactly entails being open
, because I really do believethat I pursued this and really
wanted to see things and, forsome very odd reason, jake,
let's start like this.
Let's start like this, okay,when?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I say, jake, do you believe in ghosts?
You should go instead of sayingno, because that means you're
closed off.
You're putting out to theuniverse that you're closed off,
so you're putting that outthere, that no, I'm not that.
So maybe say I do, or I want tobelieve that that would start
it, that would start it.
I, that would start it.
Let's go back to the episode.
(25:10):
We're getting off track andpeople are our listener count's
gonna start going down.
Let's get back.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's not true, I think people find this
interesting because there'salways going to be the parallel.
There's always going to bepeople on opposite ends of the
spectrum.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I challenge you, jake , to be open to this as we go
down this season.
I challenge you to be openinstead of saying, jake, we're
back, we built this big set.
You're like yeah, blackcraft,yeah, bobby, yeah, great show,
yeah.
And Bobby, jake, do you believe?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
in ghosts.
No, I challenge you to be morepatient with me, jake brother.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
We are childhood best friends.
I've never had a brothergrowing up.
You are my brother.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I am 36 years old.
You are 37 years old.
We are patients with each other.
They're done.
We have been patient with eachother for 36, 37 years.
It's done.
Giving me noogies it's done.
You know what I mean, so I can.
It's done Giving me noogiesit's done.
You know what I mean.
So my patience with you is done.
Let's get back to the fuckingepisode Best friends forever,
all right.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
The ghostly man in a suit.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, okay, well, great transition.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I'm having fun with this episode Me too, actually.
So the ghostly man in a suit.
Several guests have reportedseeing a well-dressed man in an
old-fashioned 1920s style suitstanding quietly in their rooms
or in the hallways.
He usually appears for just afew seconds and then vanishes
without a sound.
Sounds like a shadow person.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Sounds like a businessman that did some
business that went wrong in theroom and he's back.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Did some shady stuff Some bad shit.
Some believe he could be thespirit of a former businessman
oh shit, that is some bad shit.
Some believe he could be thespirit of a former businessman
oh shit, that's funny.
Or a literary figure he's notthreatening, he's just there for
a second and gone.
So I wonder what would be thepurpose for him to be a fleeting
apparition.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh no, you know one thing, because we've been
talking about so much likeenergy being trapped on the
Queen Mary or Balls' Theater orShade's- Death or this and that.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And energy is neither created nor destroyed, so it's
got to go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Well, I would like to .
Yeah, that's a good point.
I would like to have someonewho could explain to us when you
die, if you die a slow death,if you die a fast death, if you
were killed right or if it wassuicide.
Like, are you trapped where youwere if it was a suicide?
If you died a slow like, like,are you trapped where you were
(27:25):
if it was like a suicide, if youdied a slow death, where are
you?
Are you free spirit?
Are you roman?
Like I would, because I'veheard multiple things where,
like, if you've got killed, youdon't know how you died.
I heard, this is what I heard Idon't know if there's specific
roles I don't know, but I wouldlike to like get this like to a
real, true expert who can helpus understand that, because I
think that would help us alongthis journey if we could talk to
somebody like that.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It would help me fully understand more, because I
know Bobby states that I'mclosed off from it, but there is
a degree to me he wants tobelieve.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
obviously there we go .
Speaker 2 (27:54):
He's opening up, there we go, that's pretty
obvious I want to believe or Iwant to be doing a podcast about
it, I agree.
To to that now saying.
Now saying that I I do believethat sometimes I feel like
there's more than meets the eyeand I believe that when we're
dealing with something that isvery hard to pinpoint when it
comes to science because it'shard for science to really
(28:16):
explain exactly why weexperience these things and why
some people experience, whyother people don't, and why
they're in the format of a, arepeated thing in history that
took place a long time ago,right well, the the yeah and
that's, and that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I I.
The things that I would like tolike to really understand too
is like we talk about a lot ofchills.
Right, you have the icy chillin room 1463 yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So I feel like I have experienced chills before.
What?
Oh my God, it could be a draft,and that's what I'm saying.
I'm saying these things thathappen to us I feel can be
explained better rationally.
If there's a draft, you'regonna feel a chill, just saying
(29:03):
now if it's you being closed offnow.
If it's in the middle of thesummer, it's hot as hell and
it's humid and you get a chill,then we have something to talk
about.
But uh, yes, I see chills inthe room 1463.
It's.
It seems to all be taking placeon the 14th floor.
On the 14th floor it's veryinteresting and I wonder if it
all started with the passing ofthe child and was did it stay?
(29:25):
If that was the room they wereeven staying in?
Let me hold on.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I don't think there was any no, it doesn't tell you
what room they were saying but Ibelieve there's a possible
correlation with that because ifyou think, if the child died
from an illness there, there's apossibility that you know he
felt chills during his finalminutes.
For all I know.
I don't know how it works, butI want to talk about this.
One thing, though, because thisis actually what really
(29:51):
fascinated me when I wasresearching this hotel, was the
time slip phenomenon.
Phenomenon, and this is to mekind of like another way of
state, another way of kind oftrying to explain the feeling of
deja vu, or maybe the feelinglike you've been somewhere
before.
Yeah, and I never fullyunderstood what, how you can
(30:12):
explain deja vu, why we feel theway we feel when we're
experiencing it at that moment.
But the time slip phenomenon andit's only happened to a few
guests that have visited thehotel, so they described
stepping into an elevator or ahallway and suddenly feeling
like they were back in the early1900s, with different wallpaper
, old lighting and the muffledsounds of a bygone era.
(30:34):
Now, this to me, I think out ofeverything that we discussed so
far about this hotel, is themost fascinating, because I feel
like I do experience this.
I genuinely feel like ifthere's the closest thing to
paranormal I've ever experienced, it's this feeling.
It's this sensation, thisfeeling that I just transported
(30:54):
back in time, but I'm existingin both eras.
But I'm existing, but I'm yeah,it's, but I'm existing in both
areas.
I'm existing in the feeling ofbeing in the like, say, early
1900s, but I am physically inthe present and I'm feeling two
things at once at the same timeand I feel like I felt that
before I felt that many times.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I know someone who else kind of is going through
this exact feeling right now andit's funny because they kind of
just said they went.
They just feel like theyentered a new portal, because
the one thing that I need to bemore open to and I'm terrified
of it is like the movieInterstellar with like the
different dimensions, reallylove that movie.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I truly believe in that and I truly believe, like
the time warp, like if you're ina certain location that it can
alter time to where it's only 20minutes for you, but it's 80
years for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Of course that's an outer space.
I'm talking like the differentdimensions and how there's all
this different shit.
You don't talk about in themovie.
Sorry, I could talk aboutInterstellar all day Me too.
It's a great movie, but I'msuch a believer in that and I
don't know, and I don't know,I'm so drawn to all of this that
I think, as this season goes onand as we grow as a channel, I
(32:05):
think we're going to come acrosssome pretty insane shit,
because I feel like I'm so opento it.
I've had crazy experiences andnow I'm getting around some
experts who can help me, likeI've done some ghost tours now
with some experts that reallyhave kind of explained a lot to
me.
But I don't know, man, there'ssomething about this, that time
warp thing it fucking freaks meout.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
They call it a thin spot.
A thin spot, that's what theycall it, a thin spot.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Do they talk about other dimensions or anything?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Multiple dimensions are existing at once.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That's interstellar.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You can be standing in one spot and you can be
experiencing two things at once.
You can be experiencing twothings at once.
You can be experiencing theearly 1900s as well as the
present day at the same time,and maybe that can be a result
of maybe already knowing priorinformation about where you're
standing and that maybe theknowledge that you have of this
location is kind of intertwiningwith your physical like
(32:59):
location.
Does that make sense.
Yeah, that actually makes senseI feel like sometimes, when you
read into something beforeexperiencing it, you kind of you
have a premeditated expectationof what you're going to feel
when you're there and I feellike maybe that's what that
sensation is, the that feelingof being in between two
dimensions at the same time.
Um, but that for sure, I think,out of all the things that I've
(33:22):
experienced as far asparanormal which is it's not an
extensive list it's been a verysmall few amount of times.
This makes actually the mostsense to me that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think your brain's a powerful fucking thing, uh-huh
, and it could play tricks onyou I love being tricks played
on me the fuck.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I'm sorry, don't know, but um, yeah, so
hotel monteleone, uh, normallywe have uh david and they never.
They don't know anything, butthey actually don't know
anything about this place.
I was actually kind of stokedto find a location I stumped
them.
I was happy to find a locationthat hasn't really been touched
(34:01):
yet by the people in our innercircle when it comes to the
paranormal, and I'm kind oflooking forward to doing more
research on this place and maybeconsidering on visiting it when
we're ever in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But we're going to visit every place.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
But this one was definitely a little bit more
light-hearted and not as scary,but to me I think it's
fascinating, especially whenthey introduced the whole time
slip phenomenon.
I never had heard it phrasedlike that before and it kind of
makes me want to use thatconcept for future episodes
moving forward, because I wonderif that's maybe during
situations where we can't fullyexplain.
Maybe that's what's currentlyhappening.
(34:41):
It's a time slip situation isoccurring.
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
This is a very light-hearted episode, but
that's very scary.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The time slip to me is one of the scariest things,
fascinating what if you justlike, got stuck in the 1900s?
Hey, is it the same?
What do you call it?
The back rooms?
What's it called back?
You ever heard of backrooms?
So there is this whole movement, like this creative movement.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I've heard of the back pages.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So there's this thing called the backrooms, and A24
is actually working on a movieabout it right now.
So this kid I think he was ateenager came up with this
concept in which people, at anyrandom moment, can fall into a
nostalgia portal, and it takesthem to this area in which
you've heard Raul.
Have you ever heard of the backrooms?
(35:26):
Okay, so I want to talk aboutthis something because it's
really interesting and it'sabout how someone at any given
moment, can fall into adimension in which everything's
in repetition, it's all familiar, it's nostalgia, it reminds you
of an era that maybe took place20, 30, 40 years ago in your
life and you're just in thisperpetual loss.
You're just lost, but you, yousense something is always like
(35:49):
following you but you don't know.
You know exactly what's and youcan get lost into it forever.
You can eventually find portalsand ways to get back into the
real present day world, but Ialways thought that concept was
fascinating.
It made me wonder if, likemaybe that's what the time slip
kind of represents.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
So you believe in that?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
No, I don't believe in that.
I just think that's a very.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think it's a very fascinating concept.
It almost, it almost kind ofhinders the line of astral
projection.
Oh kind of, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But it's also you may have heard of this term liminal
spaces.
No, oh crap.
There's so much to discuss here.
It's really cool.
It's called liminal spaces,which is also parallel to the
concept of back rooms, but weshould definitely talk about
that sometime off the air andmaybe we can turn it into an
episode, because I think it'spretty cool.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I like it, man.
I like this episode.
It's lighthearted, it feelsvery shining-ish to me, without
all the chaos.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
A little bit more conversational too.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I like it, I like it too buddy, good episode
man, episode 6, please, ifyou're on YouTube right now, if
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Has anybody been here ?
Is anybody aware of the hotel?
If you're ever here.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
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I don't say that.
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Speaker 2 (38:11):
I'm like oh, whatever .
I'll be the punching bag forthis episode.
It's all good man.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
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Speaker 2 (38:19):
We're on episode six.
So much content in such a shortamount of time.
We're on episode 6.
We're going to do it, though.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
That's the goal by the end of this year I know I
said in the other episode byHalloween, but I do keep
forgetting.
Jake, you are on the road, alot coming up, but you never
know, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Maybe we need to double down on episodes so we
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Speaker 1 (39:00):
I am fucking off the rails on that.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
He's a completely different version when he's on.
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I'm literally going to light a cigarette up on
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And I don't even do either.
Well, we're playing dive barmusic, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
And he just makes me want to drink.
Hey, everyone should bedrinking and smoking a cigarette
.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
But don't drink or smoke.
It's bad for you.
Yeah, it's such a Just have fun.
Act like you're at a dive bar.
No, it's a good time.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Lose yourself, he's always talking shit on me during
those episodes.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I'm talking shit on you all the time.
Yes, lovely.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
That's my best friend , you're my best.
And what's the next, or whatwas the next one?
Lalurie, lalurie.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
We're gonna stay in the new orleans region.
I think there's a lot ofhistory down there that I kind
of want to hit yep.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Um, so let's, let's stay there we're eventually
gonna get back to pennsylvaniayou're into as well we're gonna
be all over.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I think we're gonna stay in the us, though, for most
of this season.
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Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think that's a great idea and we should do an
episode with someone.
I think that would be cool.
I think that's a great idea.
Make me a believer, guys.
Make me a believer, make me abeliever, I think.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Imagine Dragons have that song.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
All right, episode six.
We're out of here.
Thank you guys, so much forlistening.
Much love everybody.
Thank you for all the support.
This has blown my mind.
Yes, we'll see you.
Bye, best friend.
Bye, best friend, bye Bessie.
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
God, this show sucks.
See you guys.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Bye.
We are on the road to New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
New Orleans.
Is it New Orleans or NewOrleans New?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Orleans, I don't know .
Is it Creek or Crick?
Is it tomato or is it tomato?
Is it you or is it?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
yins.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Is it there?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
or there Is it potato , potato, tomato, tomato.
Is it your or your?
Is it zucchini or?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
zucchini.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Okay, we're done.
Episode six hotel montelion.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh, I like it now.
It's very we are in.
We are going to a state herethat you love.
I love louisiana like love,love, love louisiana.
I've been there many times ontour.
I love, love that for you.
I've been in new orleans a lot.
I'm just gonna go with neworleans, that's me really I'm,
that's what I'm, that's what I'msaying so hot and muggy down
(00:53):
there no, I'm saying how I'mpronouncing it new orleans.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh yeah, it's new orleans, I want to say new
orleans, in case people areupset about it um, I love the
vibe of the town.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You could feel just the history.
You could feel the historythere.
I've been there many times.
I love it.
If you're down with this, jake,as we kickstart the New Orleans
, I would like to do maybe likethree episodes here.
Let's stay in this region for aminute.
How we went back to back on PA.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I feel like we can probably do a lot more episodes
than three episodes, at leasttwo At least two.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
At least two, okay, because there's next episode.
Okay that I want to go down.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Ooh, go ahead.
La Louise, la Louise.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
La.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Louise.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Why is everything so fucking hard to pronounce?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's La Louise Mansion, la Louise.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
This is one that American Horror Story is
actually based off of.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh okay yeah, the how , I don't know what season.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I don't know what season is.
Uh, I don't fucking know.
They have so many seasons Idon't know, but I have american
horror murder house hotel thewitch one, the, the look it up
man.
Look at american horror story.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Ahs for short.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, hotel Monteleone, but there's
something about, yeah, well,that house that I want to talk
about.
We should do it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Next episode we're going to do it next episode.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
He told me about this house after I already sent him
the information on the hotel theinteresting thing about that
house that I want to explore isNicholas Cage lived in that
house.
Nicholas Cage, yeah, andNicholas Cage moved out of that
house and it's weird His wholecareer and financial trouble
(02:35):
started happening after he movedout of that house and he
admitted that shit happened inthat house, but he will not talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
There's a good chance he may have just been bad with
his finances during this time.
I don't know.
But but all our technology?
Has been fucking up since westarted this show, but maybe he
was bad with his financesbecause of the energy that was
in the mansion.
Dun dun, dun, dun, dun dun,nicholas cage.
Only you can find a way toincorporate.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Nicolas Cage into a haunted house.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Has he done any haunted scary oh?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
yeah, he's done a couple of scary movies.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's not Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Ghost Rider's scary.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Of all the movies you can think of you think of Ghost
Rider.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh, we're talking about Ghost.
Jake believes in ghosts,episode 6.
Here we go.
Oh man, we're in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We're going over a little hotel, so this is going
to be a little bit more of alighthearted episode.
It's not as near as dark as thePennhurst Asylum and definitely
doesn't have any kind oftragedy that maybe Queen Mary
endured in its history, but weare going to talk about so.
If anybody loves horror films,I'm always going to probably
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reference a horror movie eachepisode.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now, Actually I'm going to make that a thing.
I like that.
That needs to be your stick.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think it's important that people know
horror cinema.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You need a stick, and that's your stick, that's my
stick, that's your stick.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So there's this movie called the Innkeepers, and it's
the same director who did Houseof the Devil and also did the X
trilogy, which was also Maxineand Pearl.
Oh, I love that and theInnkeepers is a wonderful slow
burn horror film that is veryreminiscent of the more calm
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instances of hauntings becauseit's not dramatic, nothing like
you would probably experience atthe Panahearse Hotel or not
hotel asylum.
But it was just reminding me ofthat movie when I continue on
reading stories about this place.
So we're going to go a littlebit into the history.
So it was built back in 1886 inNew Orleans, louisiana, bobby's
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favorite place on earth Not myfavorite place on earth, but I'm
drawn to it, I like this place,and it was originally designed
as a luxury hotel.
That word luxury again.
Man, luxury just loves misery,doesn't it?
Uh, it was, uh, built fortravelers, businessmen and
literary figures, uh, using itas a french quarter, and it over
time became famous not just forits luxury but also for its
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paranormal activity.
It consisted of 15 floors andthis included historic ballrooms
, guest suites, dining, diningareas and rooftop pool.
That sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It was owned by the Mataleon family and they still
currently own it to this veryday Now is this hotel still open
to the public today, it isstill open to the public.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It is still considered a luxury hotel and it
is still considered aparanormal place to visit, if
you're interested in learningmore about the paranormal
history of this hotel.
So it's never closed.
It's been open since 1886.
Oh my God, what is with my listlately?
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And it can currently hold.
It has a capacity of 570 guestrooms.
I don't know what it is with mewith hotel rooms, but when
someone tells me there's likeover 500, 600 rooms in a hotel,
I just massive this colossalbuilding.
I just feel like that's a lotof rooms, it's a lot of people,
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that's a lot of rooms andthere's 55 luxury suites and
it's very popular during mardigras, mardi gras time.
Speaking of margaret, have youever been down there?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I have been.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I have been like it was just chaos, pure fucking
chaos drunken behavior drunkenbehavior just shit show left and
right, around every cornertitties out last time I was a
lot of beads around next a lotof alcohol flowing, yeah last
time I was in new orleans, Iswear it felt like a a wet
doormat.
Excuse me, I'm not shitting onit.
It smelled it smelted.
(06:28):
It smelled like a wet doormat,but I also went right after it
rained, though that day I wentout walking.
It had a very weird smell I'mnot a wet doormat.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
How the fuck do you know what a wet doormat smells?
Like okay, all right, jake comeon on.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
There is over 140 years of history with the hotel
monteleone, with the reputationof being one of the most haunted
hotels in america, believe itor not.
Despite they're not having toomuch, horrible happenings that
took place here.
Uh, you can be known forhearing children's laughter in
empty hallways, unseen handstugging at clothing in cold
spots and apparitions of formerguests, including a toddler
(07:07):
named Maurice, who we're goingto talk about shortly.
Staffing-wise, it was mostlybellhops, concierges, cleaning
crews, chefs and security.
Apparently, they're known forreally good customer service.
This is a hotel.
If you want a good experience,definitely check out Hotel
Monteleon.
It makes me want to stay thereand check it out because I've
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heard a lot of good things aboutit.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
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Jake is mentally sick, mentallysick.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's also been used for an episode of Ghost Hunters,
also an episode of the DeadFiles, and also numerous
documentaries and specialscovering special coverings,
covering Haunted New Orleans,and we should do a series called
Haunted New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That's what I'm trying to say.
Why don't we, why don't we makea pact right now and go down
this rabbit hole right now?
Because I want to stay in thatregion right now, because
there's so much history there.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm curious.
So when you have visited there,you said you've been there
plenty of times.
Have you experienced anythingcurious?
So when you have visited there,you said you've been there
plenty of times.
Have your experience anythinghaunted?
No, never were you usually withpeople and probably in a public
area yeah, it was either like Iwas on tour I do.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The funniest memory I have is actually being a kid
going there with my family onvacation as, like a kid, I don't
know what the fuck we weredoing down.
I think my dad had like a workthing and we all went.
But uh, past couple times I'vebeen there that was on tour,
know what I mean.
So it was like old venues orlike I don't know.
Just the energy there is justdifferent.
If you've been there you knowwhat I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yes, I also want to do a shout out to this place
that actually is known forreceiving a lot of awards and
recognitions, such as is anofficial literary landmark
because of the close ties tofamous writers like Tennessee
Williams, Ernest Hemingway andWilliam Faulkner, and it's also
a member of the Historic Hotelsof America and often wins awards
for preservation efforts.
This sounds like a really coolexperience, and I would love to
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stay at this place one nightbecause it just seems like it's
very well kept.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Let me guess what you want.
To go there and explore first.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I want to go there and explore second, after
Pennhurst.
I think we should really gohard with Pennhurst because for
all I know.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Then you said Queen Mary.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, Queen Mary.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
First we were going to Shades of Death.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We have never gone yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Then we were going to Salem, which we've already done
.
Then we're going to RitzTheater.
We haven't even done that yet.
Then we're going to PennhurstHaven't done that yet.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Might need to find someone else to do events,
because it looks like I'm doingall of this.
I'm just giving you shit, butreally what makes this hotel
special?
It's just a very personablehotel and it has proud Sicilian
roots, and this is like a wholebunch of research I've done.
It just seems like this is agreat place to visit if you're
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ever in New Orleans.
It may not be dark anddepressing like Pennhurst or
have some horrible tragedieslike Queen Mary, but I feel like
just for the experience alone,what made you choose this
episode?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's funny because I know nothing about this one.
Yeah, what?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
happened.
I was doing research onlocations in New Orleans and
this was right after writing theepisode for Pennhurst, and I
was just so like-.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Drawn to it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
No, I was drained, I was drained by Pennhurst and I
didn't want to do a doublewhammy and I wanted to do
something that was a little bitmore light and a little bit more
intriguing, because there's alot of ghost activity that takes
place here, but it's notnecessarily known for like
horrific happenings of any sort,and I like to discuss those
kind of hauntings too as well,because we I feel like we need
to cover the the spectrum ofhauntings.
(10:30):
You know it's not always goingto be the shadow people.
It's not always going to bedark spirits.
Sometimes it's going to besimply residual spirits, if
they're real but it's.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's interesting because a place like new orleans
it's so voodoo, dark magic.
It's very dark down there, likeit's very the energy is very
like, I believe it there's likea like voodoo.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You think you know well I will state this because
david and alora have stated thismultiple times that spirits are
capable of traveling fartherthan where their designated end
took place.
So there's a possibility thatdark things can happen at this
hotel.
But, um, and one of the darkthings and this is kind of sad
it does involve a, a boy namedmaurice.
(11:13):
Um, please excuse me if I saythis wrong begier.
I believe that's how it'spronounced maurice begier.
This is definitely the mostfamous uh story that's attached
to.
This is definitely the mostfamous uh story that's attached
to hotel monteleone.
I want to keep pronouncing itso until I get familiar with it.
Um, in the late 1800s and early1900s the big era families uh
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stayed at the monteleoneregularly.
Tragically, their young son,marie, died from a sudden
illness while they were outexploring new orleans, which
means wait.
Was he with them when he passedaway or was that the hotel when
he passed away?
Afterwards, the heartbrokenmother would return to the hotel
praying to see her son.
Over time, guests and staffbegan reporting sightings of a
young boy on the 14th floor,which technically doesn't exist
(11:57):
because the elevator skips from13 to 15.
Whoa, that's interesting.
Maurice is often seen playing,laughing and calling out for his
mother.
That's interesting.
Maurice is often seen playing,laughing and calling out for his
mother.
That's sad, first off, to betrapped at a hotel as opposed to
, maybe your home and it's alsokind of it's just sad.
You know, someone losing theirchild, that has to be so
(12:18):
heartbreaking and there's such asentiment with the mother
coming back to the place to prayfor the seer child again at
this location.
That had to be such a toughexperience for that family and
it's kind of sad.
But I wouldn't say that'sobviously a dark spirit right
there because they said that youcan hear the boy laughing and
(12:38):
playing and calling out to hismother.
So if you were to ever comeacross this haunting, it
wouldn't be something that wouldprobably give you chills down
your spine or anything but moreso, just very interesting to
experience.
I also want to call uh talkabout the phantom restaurant
door.
Uh, inside the hotel'srestaurant there's a mysterious
door that supposedly opens andcloses by itself, even when
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completely locked and secured.
Multiple staff members haveseen the heavy door swing open
and shut while near it, oftenduring quiet times like late at
night or early morning.
Imagine a working night shiftat this hotel.
That's literally what the movieKeepers is about.
It's about the night shift ofthe hotel management and they
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just experience all this stuff.
So some paranormal theoriessuggest the spirit of a former
guest or staff member may stillbe working and passing through,
but there's no record whatsoeverof a staff member passing on
site of the hotel.
So I'm very curious of whatwould be causing this
supernatural occurrence.
That's interesting, that one'sgood.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's definitely not the little boy, because the
little boy is trapped on the14th floor you don't know, I now
the next one we're about totalk about this is the shit of
hotels that I love, like itreminds me of the haunt or the
haunting.
It reminds me of um the shiningoh yeah like I don't know the
invisible bellhop.
Uh-huh, I like this man becauseguests have reported hearing
knockings on their door late atnight which that.
(14:03):
That scares the shit out of me,followed by some footsteps,
which scares the shit out Now.
I've never heard.
I've never heard footsteps.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Actually, I will say this, and this is probably why I
have a hard time believing inthe concept of ghosts, and I
think a lot of it when it.
When it comes to like hearingknocks or footsteps at night.
To me, I really do feel like itcan be justified by the idea of
maybe believing it's happeningas opposed to actually happening
.
I couldn't.
I'll tell you this right now.
(14:30):
This is such a stupid thing.
So growing up in my house, thisis so weird.
I get triggered.
Because my mom walked with herheels and she was heavy footed
and I would be in the house andI would just he, I would be
upstairs, my bedroom, and Iwould just hear.
I'm like, oh my god, mom iswalking again.
(14:52):
So for me, if I were to hearher footsteps, they would have
to sound like the way my momwalks in order for me to be
freaked out because, to thisvery day, I always ask my mom is
short, she's tiny, she's little.
I'm like how does this womanemit so much sound?
She's walking with some passionshe's walking with a purpose.
(15:13):
That's funny.
Karen's got purpose.
Karen has got purpose.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yes, her name is karen and she's a lovely she's a
lovely, lovely young lady now jthe invisible bellhop.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Here's what I love about this is.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
People say that they open the door and they see what
the bellhop like dash around thecorner and vanish.
Okay, so it's a ghost bellhop.
It's a ghost bellhop, I feellike that's probably like maybe
Was there any record of anyonedying there that worked there
like a bellhop.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
There's no record of anyone dying.
Some guests dying there thatwork there like a bell.
There's no record of anyonedying.
Some guests they just seem thisold-fashioned bellhop.
Uh, walking down, wait, hold ona bellhop.
Is that a position?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
yeah, of course, someone who's helping you with
the luggage and stuff like that.
The fuck, why are you laughingat that.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I had this visual.
The fuck, I had this visual.
The fuck I had this visual.
You know the dolly that I usewhen I come to your place.
Yeah, I had this visual that itwas just this dolly coming down
the hallway by itself.
I didn't know it was an actualperson.
Think of a four-wheeled dolly.
I, just I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So you think the invisible bell?
You thought there was aninvisible dolly.
It just ruined the wholey.
Are you okay?
Today?
No, okay, okay, uh, this one.
This one's interesting to mebecause it is an earlier episode
.
On episode three we had joshballs on and he was talking
about how his butler yes, youknow, the caretaker of the house
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haunts his house, you know whatI really loved what he said
during the episode too is thathe takes care of the house
haunts his house.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You know what I really loved what he said during
the episode too, is that hetakes care of the house.
He cleans the house out ofrespect for the former butler,
and he believes that by doing so, it allows him to just like be
at peace with the house and Ithought that was very
fascinating and interesting thathe said that, because one
everyone's at peace when theirhouse is clean, but no one ever
really talks about why there ispeace when you have a clean
(17:08):
house and I wonder if it plays arole with energy shifting.
Of course it does.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Bro, are you kidding me?
Everyone that's listening tothis right now or watching this
right now, take a second andthink about your house.
Yeah, yeah, you sleep there.
Some of you work there.
Your life's there, your kidsare there, your wife, your
husband, whatever's there, thinkabout it.
When it's cluttered, you can't,fucking think you can't.
But when it's clean and it'snice and fresh, you can just
(17:34):
like I don't know, it's yourhome.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
So imagine having a cluttered house and then dealing
with an asshole butler on topof that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You better clean this shit up, you better get your
shit together, but I feel likethat's probably what's going on
here with the bellhop.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
The bellhop probably love their job and love seeing
guests show up and just have funthere and probably enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
This is a lighthearted episode.
I like this one.
Yeah, imagine loving your jobso much that that's how you live
your afterlife.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Hey dude.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Imagine us dying.
And then we're just continuingthe podcast, we're just doing a
podcast in the afterlife.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
That'd be crazy, Like go make us chart in the
afterlife.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You can hear them discussing the story in the
distance, to this very day,charting in the afterlife is
crazy.
That would be.
I wonder who's there right now.
I wonder if Spotify and iTuneshappen.
Jesus Christ man.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
The next story is kind of interesting because the
elevator that chooses the 14thfloor.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
This is cool because we're we're talking about a
complete, a huge piece ofmachinery deciding its own fate,
deciding when, where it wantsto take you, um, so and, to be
clear, there's no 14th floor.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
There is.
Let's explain this, becausethis is where I'm confused a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So guests riding the elevator have an opt-in report
at stopping suddenly at the 14thfloor, so you're not supposed
to get on the 14th floor.
The 14th floor is shut off.
Actually, it's not you, I think, because of the whole incident
with the kid.
Really.
People die in hotels all thetime, I believe.
So I could be wrong.
Let's look this up real quickBlah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
(19:08):
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, right here.
No-transcript.
Live in now.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I think there is a 13 , but um, there's a possibility
out of respect for the familywho used to attend maybe, yeah,
maybe the hotel multiple timesthey thought out of respect for
the child passing away that theythought they should just cut
off that whole floor, but I dothink you know the elevator
choosing the 14th floor.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
We talked about many times on this, on this show,
where you don't choose the house, you don't choose the building,
it chooses you and it's almostlike god.
I would love to know all thepeople that got sent to the 14th
floor yeah, like who are thosepeople?
You know, I mean that the floorchose them.
Yeah, why?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
why it, and maybe that has to do with the fact
that, like it probably wouldn'tchoose the 14th floor if I'm on
it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
That's what I'm saying.
Probably would choose.
Oh, my ass is going right tothe 14th.
It's going straight to the 14thfloor.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm going right to 14th, and so does the door open,
and it's just what a blankfloor Like.
How does that?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
work Well, it says.
When the doors open, there'susually no one there.
The hallway feels strangelycold or heavy.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
This is also where the most paranormal sightings
happen, including seeing ghostlychildren and shadow figures
moving quickly out of the cornerof their eye.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So the ghost children make sense, because the child
passed away on the 14th floor?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It does, but I would love to know the people that are
getting chosen to go to the14th floor.
I want to go there now and goon that elevator.
I guarantee you I get sent tothe 14th floor hey, remember in
pittsburgh this is, this is anon.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
What's the term?
Non sequidor?
Yeah, yeah uh, remember when weused to have that storage space
.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yep, oh god can we tell can?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
we talk about this story real quick.
Actually we can.
I don't really remember.
We're talking about the woman.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, I'm talking about the woman and the reason
why I'm talking about this isbecause we're talking about
getting stopped on a certainfloor.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So I actually was the one who took the elevator down
and you guys experiencedsomething, only one way, in only
one way out.
Only one way, in only one wayout, experienced only one way,
in only one way out, only oneway, in only one way out.
She was gone.
Can you explain to me exactlywhat happened?
I don't, I don't.
Was witnessed by the whole.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I don't fully remember uh-huh, but I do
remember seeing a woman uh-huh,and then she was just gone.
We searched everywhere for herin the building, correct?
Yes, so let's, let's talk aboutthis.
This is very interesting, butwe got no.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I want to talk about this real quick, because I keep
telling you that I don'texperience this stuff, right
yeah, and for some reason Ialways end up in a predicament
where I'm the one notexperiencing.
I was literally by myself,that's right.
I was by myself in the elevator, so why would this ghostly
apparition choose the group ofpeople as opposed to the
vulnerable?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
person Because you're not open to it.
Because, you're not open to it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Why does the spirit choose?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
for me to not be open to it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I've been looking for this shit.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
It's the same shit when you talk about
manifestation.
If you're not open to abundance, you're not open to things that
you're close to no, you're not.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You don't think?
I don't want to experience someof this stuff, jake we kick
started this whole season offwith black craft.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You're like yeah, I'm like we're back.
You're like yeah, I'm like doyou believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
you're like no, and you know why you're closed off
because for some very odd reason, I'm always put in the
circumstance where I'm notexperiencing it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Watch us watch us and then we gotta get back to this
episode.
You got to be open to things inlife I am.
When I started Blackcraft I wasbefore I was very, very shut
off to a lot of things in life.
I didn't have my mind open tothings.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I read the book, the secret my mind opened up.
I had started attracting allthese different things.
My vision board I was.
I was open to it, I was on thatfrequency, I was on to it.
I was on that frequency, I wason that wavelength.
You can't deny wavelengths andyou cannot deny frequency.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
No, I'm not denying that you cannot deny those
things.
I'm not denying those things, Iunderstand that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
But what I'm saying to you is and this is where your
thick skull is not gettingthrough.
Well.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I told you at the beginning of this season that
you're going to piss me off andthis is one of these moments.
I'm pissing you off right now.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's just you're not open to it and you don't
understand that you're not opento it, you're not on the
wavelength of seeing thesethings, I'm going to add You're
not open to it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm going to add to this You're not the only one who
read the book the Secret.
I understand that, Jake.
I read it too, so why does that?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
not open my portal, because it's more than that.
It's more it's.
It's like thinking.
It's like, that's like asking.
That's like asking me, bro, Igo to the gym every day, but I'm
eating fucking dairy queenevery day.
I'm not getting in shape.
Well, why is it?
There's more to it than justreading the book.
There's, there's a whole many.
There's so much more to it thanthat.
There it is.
It is and I'm living fuckingproof of the secret.
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I am it.
You can't just think you'regonna open the book and read it
and think like, oh, my life'sgoing to change.
You got to go put the actionsin, but I did.
Where am I right now?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I mean, you're on track, I'm on track.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I get it, but there's certain things that you have
not excelled in, that you'vereally wanted to excel in, that
you're just closed off to it.
Me too, me too, me too.
The ghostly man I told you hewas gonna piss me off.
Did I not say that episode one?
Did I not say he's gonna?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
piss me off, you know .
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Anyway, I want to piss you off, I'm going.
Can we get back to new orleans?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
yeah, we can talk about new orleans.
Fuck sorry, I had that, I hadto divert down below comment.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I mean, don't you agree?
I mean you got to be open tothings, but it's much more than
just reading a book.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I I wish I understood what exactly entails being open
, because I really do believethat I pursued this and really
wanted to see things and, forsome very odd reason, jake,
let's start like this.
Let's start like this, okay,when?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I say, jake, do you believe in ghosts?
You should go instead of sayingno, because that means you're
closed off.
You're putting out to theuniverse that you're closed off,
so you're putting that outthere, that no, I'm not that.
So maybe say I do, or I want tobelieve that that would start
it, that would start it.
I, that would start it.
Let's go back to the episode.
(25:10):
We're getting off track andpeople are our listener count's
gonna start going down.
Let's get back.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's not true, I think people find this
interesting because there'salways going to be the parallel.
There's always going to bepeople on opposite ends of the
spectrum.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I challenge you, jake , to be open to this as we go
down this season.
I challenge you to be openinstead of saying, jake, we're
back, we built this big set.
You're like yeah, blackcraft,yeah, bobby, yeah, great show,
yeah.
And Bobby, jake, do you believe?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
in ghosts.
No, I challenge you to be morepatient with me, jake brother.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
We are childhood best friends.
I've never had a brothergrowing up.
You are my brother.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I am 36 years old.
You are 37 years old.
We are patients with each other.
They're done.
We have been patient with eachother for 36, 37 years.
It's done.
Giving me noogies it's done.
You know what I mean, so I can.
It's done Giving me noogiesit's done.
You know what I mean.
So my patience with you is done.
Let's get back to the fuckingepisode Best friends forever,
all right.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
The ghostly man in a suit.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, okay, well, great transition.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I'm having fun with this episode Me too, actually.
So the ghostly man in a suit.
Several guests have reportedseeing a well-dressed man in an
old-fashioned 1920s style suitstanding quietly in their rooms
or in the hallways.
He usually appears for just afew seconds and then vanishes
without a sound.
Sounds like a shadow person.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Sounds like a businessman that did some
business that went wrong in theroom and he's back.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Did some shady stuff Some bad shit.
Some believe he could be thespirit of a former businessman
oh shit, that is some bad shit.
Some believe he could be thespirit of a former businessman
oh shit, that's funny.
Or a literary figure he's notthreatening, he's just there for
a second and gone.
So I wonder what would be thepurpose for him to be a fleeting
apparition.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh no, you know one thing, because we've been
talking about so much likeenergy being trapped on the
Queen Mary or Balls' Theater orShade's- Death or this and that.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And energy is neither created nor destroyed, so it's
got to go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Well, I would like to .
Yeah, that's a good point.
I would like to have someonewho could explain to us when you
die, if you die a slow death,if you die a fast death, if you
were killed right or if it wassuicide.
Like, are you trapped where youwere if it was a suicide?
If you died a slow like, like,are you trapped where you were
(27:25):
if it was like a suicide, if youdied a slow death, where are
you?
Are you free spirit?
Are you roman?
Like I would, because I'veheard multiple things where,
like, if you've got killed, youdon't know how you died.
I heard, this is what I heard Idon't know if there's specific
roles I don't know, but I wouldlike to like get this like to a
real, true expert who can helpus understand that, because I
think that would help us alongthis journey if we could talk to
somebody like that.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It would help me fully understand more, because I
know Bobby states that I'mclosed off from it, but there is
a degree to me he wants tobelieve.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
obviously there we go .
Speaker 2 (27:54):
He's opening up, there we go, that's pretty
obvious I want to believe or Iwant to be doing a podcast about
it, I agree.
To to that now saying.
Now saying that I I do believethat sometimes I feel like
there's more than meets the eyeand I believe that when we're
dealing with something that isvery hard to pinpoint when it
comes to science because it'shard for science to really
(28:16):
explain exactly why weexperience these things and why
some people experience, whyother people don't, and why
they're in the format of a, arepeated thing in history that
took place a long time ago,right well, the the yeah and
that's, and that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I I.
The things that I would like tolike to really understand too
is like we talk about a lot ofchills.
Right, you have the icy chillin room 1463 yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So I feel like I have experienced chills before.
What?
Oh my God, it could be a draft,and that's what I'm saying.
I'm saying these things thathappen to us I feel can be
explained better rationally.
If there's a draft, you'regonna feel a chill, just saying
(29:03):
now if it's you being closed offnow.
If it's in the middle of thesummer, it's hot as hell and
it's humid and you get a chill,then we have something to talk
about.
But uh, yes, I see chills inthe room 1463.
It's.
It seems to all be taking placeon the 14th floor.
On the 14th floor it's veryinteresting and I wonder if it
all started with the passing ofthe child and was did it stay?
(29:25):
If that was the room they wereeven staying in?
Let me hold on.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I don't think there was any no, it doesn't tell you
what room they were saying but Ibelieve there's a possible
correlation with that because ifyou think, if the child died
from an illness there, there's apossibility that you know he
felt chills during his finalminutes.
For all I know.
I don't know how it works, butI want to talk about this.
One thing, though, because thisis actually what really
(29:51):
fascinated me when I wasresearching this hotel, was the
time slip phenomenon.
Phenomenon, and this is to mekind of like another way of
state, another way of kind oftrying to explain the feeling of
deja vu, or maybe the feelinglike you've been somewhere
before.
Yeah, and I never fullyunderstood what, how you can
(30:12):
explain deja vu, why we feel theway we feel when we're
experiencing it at that moment.
But the time slip phenomenon andit's only happened to a few
guests that have visited thehotel, so they described
stepping into an elevator or ahallway and suddenly feeling
like they were back in the early1900s, with different wallpaper
, old lighting and the muffledsounds of a bygone era.
(30:34):
Now, this to me, I think out ofeverything that we discussed so
far about this hotel, is themost fascinating, because I feel
like I do experience this.
I genuinely feel like ifthere's the closest thing to
paranormal I've ever experienced, it's this feeling.
It's this sensation, thisfeeling that I just transported
(30:54):
back in time, but I'm existingin both eras.
But I'm existing, but I'm yeah,it's, but I'm existing in both
areas.
I'm existing in the feeling ofbeing in the like, say, early
1900s, but I am physically inthe present and I'm feeling two
things at once at the same timeand I feel like I felt that
before I felt that many times.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I know someone who else kind of is going through
this exact feeling right now andit's funny because they kind of
just said they went.
They just feel like theyentered a new portal, because
the one thing that I need to bemore open to and I'm terrified
of it is like the movieInterstellar with like the
different dimensions, reallylove that movie.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I truly believe in that and I truly believe, like
the time warp, like if you're ina certain location that it can
alter time to where it's only 20minutes for you, but it's 80
years for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Of course that's an outer space.
I'm talking like the differentdimensions and how there's all
this different shit.
You don't talk about in themovie.
Sorry, I could talk aboutInterstellar all day Me too.
It's a great movie, but I'msuch a believer in that and I
don't know, and I don't know,I'm so drawn to all of this that
I think, as this season goes onand as we grow as a channel, I
(32:05):
think we're going to come acrosssome pretty insane shit,
because I feel like I'm so opento it.
I've had crazy experiences andnow I'm getting around some
experts who can help me, likeI've done some ghost tours now
with some experts that reallyhave kind of explained a lot to
me.
But I don't know, man, there'ssomething about this, that time
warp thing it fucking freaks meout.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
They call it a thin spot.
A thin spot, that's what theycall it, a thin spot.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Do they talk about other dimensions or anything?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Multiple dimensions are existing at once.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That's interstellar.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You can be standing in one spot and you can be
experiencing two things at once.
You can be experiencing twothings at once.
You can be experiencing theearly 1900s as well as the
present day at the same time,and maybe that can be a result
of maybe already knowing priorinformation about where you're
standing and that maybe theknowledge that you have of this
location is kind of intertwiningwith your physical like
(32:59):
location.
Does that make sense.
Yeah, that actually makes senseI feel like sometimes, when you
read into something beforeexperiencing it, you kind of you
have a premeditated expectationof what you're going to feel
when you're there and I feellike maybe that's what that
sensation is, the that feelingof being in between two
dimensions at the same time.
Um, but that for sure, I think,out of all the things that I've
(33:22):
experienced as far asparanormal which is it's not an
extensive list it's been a verysmall few amount of times.
This makes actually the mostsense to me that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think your brain's a powerful fucking thing, uh-huh
, and it could play tricks onyou I love being tricks played
on me the fuck.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I'm sorry, don't know, but um, yeah, so
hotel monteleone, uh, normallywe have uh david and they never.
They don't know anything, butthey actually don't know
anything about this place.
I was actually kind of stokedto find a location I stumped
them.
I was happy to find a locationthat hasn't really been touched
(34:01):
yet by the people in our innercircle when it comes to the
paranormal, and I'm kind oflooking forward to doing more
research on this place and maybeconsidering on visiting it when
we're ever in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But we're going to visit every place.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
But this one was definitely a little bit more
light-hearted and not as scary,but to me I think it's
fascinating, especially whenthey introduced the whole time
slip phenomenon.
I never had heard it phrasedlike that before and it kind of
makes me want to use thatconcept for future episodes
moving forward, because I wonderif that's maybe during
situations where we can't fullyexplain.
Maybe that's what's currentlyhappening.
(34:41):
It's a time slip situation isoccurring.
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
This is a very light-hearted episode, but
that's very scary.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The time slip to me is one of the scariest things,
fascinating what if you justlike, got stuck in the 1900s?
Hey, is it the same?
What do you call it?
The back rooms?
What's it called back?
You ever heard of backrooms?
So there is this whole movement, like this creative movement.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I've heard of the back pages.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So there's this thing called the backrooms, and A24
is actually working on a movieabout it right now.
So this kid I think he was ateenager came up with this
concept in which people, at anyrandom moment, can fall into a
nostalgia portal, and it takesthem to this area in which
you've heard Raul.
Have you ever heard of the backrooms?
(35:26):
Okay, so I want to talk aboutthis something because it's
really interesting and it'sabout how someone at any given
moment, can fall into adimension in which everything's
in repetition, it's all familiar, it's nostalgia, it reminds you
of an era that maybe took place20, 30, 40 years ago in your
life and you're just in thisperpetual loss.
You're just lost, but you, yousense something is always like
(35:49):
following you but you don't know.
You know exactly what's and youcan get lost into it forever.
You can eventually find portalsand ways to get back into the
real present day world, but Ialways thought that concept was
fascinating.
It made me wonder if, likemaybe that's what the time slip
kind of represents.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
So you believe in that?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
No, I don't believe in that.
I just think that's a very.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think it's a very fascinating concept.
It almost, it almost kind ofhinders the line of astral
projection.
Oh kind of, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But it's also you may have heard of this term liminal
spaces.
No, oh crap.
There's so much to discuss here.
It's really cool.
It's called liminal spaces,which is also parallel to the
concept of back rooms, but weshould definitely talk about
that sometime off the air andmaybe we can turn it into an
episode, because I think it'spretty cool.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I like it, man.
I like this episode.
It's lighthearted, it feelsvery shining-ish to me, without
all the chaos.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
A little bit more conversational too.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I like it, I like it too buddy, good episode
man, episode 6, please, ifyou're on YouTube right now, if
you could like comment subscribe.
Send it to your friend.
Yes, send it to your relatives.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Has anybody been here ?
Is anybody aware of the hotel?
If you're ever here.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
If you're having stories, please comment them
also.
Yes, if you're having stories,please comment them also.
Yes.
Also, we're over at Patreon,patreoncom, slash,
blackcraftcult.
We've got three tiers set up.
Part of one of the segmentsthat we will be doing moving
forward here is the ultimatesinner tier is going to be the
Ghost Hunter Hotline.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
The Ghost Hunter Hotline.
I think we're going to includeit in the sinner.
Okay yeah, yeah, but also firstoff, thank you to everybody
who's upgraded their tier.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but alsofirst off, thank you to
everybody who's upgraded theirtier.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, seriously, thank you guys, we're actually
currently working onthecentersocietycom.
We're working on everythingright now.
Yeah, we're working oneverything.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
We want to give you a really cool exclusive
experience.
So thank you so much for yourpatience, and we're really
working hard and we're doing alot of recording.
We're trying to get as muchcontent to you as possible
possible, while also beingthoughtful on the subject
matters that we discuss so thankyou so much for being
supportive so far and I can'twait for our next youtube
premiere, because that is themost fun.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
The youtube premiere has been going off.
I've been having so much fun inthe chat all he does is just
have everyone call me a hater.
He just like hey, jake's ahater man.
Jakesahatercom is gonna be thenew website he'll.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
He'll say something like hey guys, type one if Jake
sucks.
I don't say that.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I say type one.
If you think Jake's full ofshit, yeah, that's the same
thing and everybody startstyping one.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I'm like oh, whatever .
I'll be the punching bag forthis episode.
It's all good man.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
We are on the road to episode 100.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
We're on episode six.
So much content in such a shortamount of time.
We're on episode 6.
We're going to do it, though.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
That's the goal by the end of this year I know I
said in the other episode byHalloween, but I do keep
forgetting.
Jake, you are on the road, alot coming up, but you never
know, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Maybe we need to double down on episodes so we
have content while I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
You never know.
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You never know, so also make sure you check out.
Blackcraftcoffeecom.
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Very good coffee, a lot of fun and exciting stuff
going on.
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That's just go to your appstore.
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Come follow us on there.
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Speaker 2 (38:56):
And Bobby is an absolute who on there and
deranged as hell.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I am fucking off the rails on that.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
He's a completely different version when he's on.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I'm literally going to light a cigarette up on
whatnot today, he keeps tellingeverybody to smoke and drink.
And I don't even do either.
Well, we're playing dive barmusic, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
And he just makes me want to drink.
Hey, everyone should bedrinking and smoking a cigarette
.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
But don't drink or smoke.
It's bad for you.
Yeah, it's such a Just have fun.
Act like you're at a dive bar.
No, it's a good time.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Lose yourself, he's always talking shit on me during
those episodes.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I'm talking shit on you all the time.
Yes, lovely.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
That's my best friend , you're my best.
And what's the next, or whatwas the next one?
Lalurie, lalurie.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
We're gonna stay in the new orleans region.
I think there's a lot ofhistory down there that I kind
of want to hit yep.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Um, so let's, let's stay there we're eventually
gonna get back to pennsylvaniayou're into as well we're gonna
be all over.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I think we're gonna stay in the us, though, for most
of this season.
Yep, um, and if you haveanything that you could
recommend if you're a subscriberon patreon, you want all the
recommendations Message us.
If you're in the Patreon chat,let us know.
Actually, I think after weshould do a couple episodes with
the ultimate sinner tier, theyshould be able to call in.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think that's a great idea and we should do an
episode with someone.
I think that would be cool.
I think that's a great idea.
Make me a believer, guys.
Make me a believer, make me abeliever, I think.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Imagine Dragons have that song.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
All right, episode six.
We're out of here.
Thank you guys, so much forlistening.
Much love everybody.
Thank you for all the support.
This has blown my mind.
Yes, we'll see you.
Bye, best friend.
Bye, best friend, bye Bessie.
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
God, this show sucks.
See you guys.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Bye.
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