Exploring the Depths of Black Indie Comics: A Conversation with Brian J. Lambert

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Let's be respectful of eachother's spaces because we don't play
that here.
So without further ado, my manNavy Martel's in the building.
What's going on, Navy?
What's going on, brother?
I. I hope you're feeling alittle bit better.
Ginger tea.

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Good man.
Good man.
Now, I don't have the gingertea, but I do have the wild bills.
So you know what?
Found this at Dollar tree fora dollar 25.
All right.
Speaking of wild bills, forthose who go to conventions, okay.
There is a certain vendor bythe name of Wild Bills who sells

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root beer and these reallycool mugs.
Now, this past weekend, wewere out of town for a family function.
We had a.
My wife had a death in thefamily and we were staying at a hotel.
What I did not know was thehotel was right around the corner
from the convention center,and at that convention center was

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an anime convention going on.
So I was like, well, this is new.
I, like, had no time to go tothis thing at all.
So I looked it up and I said,oh, okay.
Is the name of this con.
I think it's his fourth yearin West Virginia.
What's it called?
Sabusa Khan, I want to say.

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Is it T S, A B, A, S, A?
Yes, A T, Yes.
Yeah.
Depending on how you.
Yep.
And so I looked up to see whatvendors were there.
I didn't recognize a lot ofthem, but I did recognize wild bills
and I did recognize D8 sabers.
I'm like, if I had time, Iwould have went in there to get some

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accessories for my lightsaberfrom DX Sabers, because that's where
I got my saber from.
So.
But I was.
That was a pleasant surprise.
I said, man, if I had, like,extra time, I would have just jumped
in, like on one day, did mywalk around and jumped out.
It's something about Wild Bills.
It's a staple at Cons now, andI can confirm this.

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We will have Wild Bills at blurcon.
Yeah.
I can.
I can say that much.
Everyone to get my mug.
I don't know if.
If y' all are out there, youunderstand the excitement that this
man and I are exhibiting.
Wild Bills is one of thosestaples, because when you go to the

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vendor, especially the.
The food vendors, and you geta simple soda that runs you four
or five dollars a pop everytime if you're lucky.
Wild Bills has a system whereif you've already bought a cup from
them, you pay an extra five,maybe $10 and you can refill the
entire weekend.

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The entire weekend.
They put a little lanyard onyour cup.
You go, here you go.
Okay.
And you ice.
Fill it up.
Keep it moving.
I love it.
No one else does that.
Mal's in the building.
What's going on now?
What up, sir?
Just sweetie glare.
We can't do it like lady man.

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Thank you, Ma, for the donation.
Thank you.
Yes, I'm pushing through.
Thank you.
Bama's in the building.
Yeah, do sweetie.
Dwight.
Yes, it's actually ginger turmeric.
So, yes.
Okay.
We do listen to our audience.
You know, actually hasturmeric in it.
So I. I said, ah.
Hey, cold call me early this year.

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So.
I'm so glad.
I never had one of thosebefore, but I have heard some disastrous
things.
When you are a practicingvoice actor, it's hello.
Well, you're an up and comingvoice actor.
I can imagine.
See, but I'm stupid like that.

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I'll take any adversity to myvoice, and I will still somehow make
it an advantage because now Iwant to see what I can do with it
now that my voice has gotten weird.
Here.
Here's the thing.
People say, oh, take some Nyquil.
Here's the thing about me and Nyquil.
We don't have a very good relationship.
Apparently, I have an allergic reaction.

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Oh, no.
Nyquil.
But here's the allergicreaction I have.
Everybody's used to the deep,sultry voice.
Nyquil makes me sound likeMickey Mouse.

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Trial and error.
Trust me, I know.
Oh, my gosh.
I can imagine you doing anintro for the show, and it's like,
hello, everybody.
Welcome to Lord's Eye View.
I had, like, it.
I.
This happened a couple yearsago, and I noticed it, and I took
it, and I'm like, yeah, is myvoice going?

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And then when I'm pushingthrough it, why do I sound like this?
You know, like, what?
I shouldn't have been drinkinganything when you did that.
Yeah, look, the look my wifehas, and I'm like, I don't know what's
going on.

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It's like.
It's.
It's like that episode is likethe movie Roger Rabbit.
And I would turn around, and Iturn around and have a voice just
like us.
And I'm like, now this.
It's not a pretty sight.
It's at all.
Now, I will add to that,because when I get sick, my voice
drops three octaves.

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Oh, you turn into Barry White.
Yeah, I turn into Barry White.
Someone says, hey, Monta.
Hey, what's going on?
Who the hell is this?
I won't be coming to work today.
Not talking like that.
Sorry.
It doesn't.
It.
It does help that while atwork today, because it's been.
It was CSP week, and they'recelebrating all the texts in the

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air, in the hospital.
They.
They've been feeding this crapout of everybody.
They brought in these great brownies.
I've seen some of the girlsgetting brownies.
So I.
You know, I go in straight.
I got a mask on.
I go straight.
Go ahead and get you one ofthem brownies.
Rich, decadent, luscious chocolate.

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Everybody was like, what's thenarrator in here?
It worked.
It.
It does.
It does tend to work.
I. I feel that.
My dude said, hey, he does doa little bit of outside, so there
it is.
I love chocolate, butchocolate is like my favorite op
because milk chocolate puts meto sleep.

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It makes me drowsy and knocks me.
Out, literally, like a baby.
Like a baby, Yo.
Dark chocolate doesn't do it.
I don't touch white chocolate.
That's just pure sugar right there.
But milk chocolate, forget it.
That's the.
That's the.
That's the tits right there.
Dark chocolate, that's my jam.
What?
70%.
Let's go.
That is my jam with the salt.

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And caramel on the inside.
So peep.
We have a guest in the building.
This brother is working on alittle bit of everything.
Let's go.
But if you.
If you remember MalachiBailey, he has her.

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And that's over at Wings Comics.
If you recognize justice,that's it.
Wingless Comics.
If you recognize immortals,that's at Wingless Comics.
And up and coming Air ForceOnes which is also turning into an
animation.
So dope for Blurry Station,also from Wingless Comics.

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This man is literally hands onin the indie comics industry.
Brian J. Lambert is in the building.
What's going on, Brian?
Hey, sir.
I'd give a standing ovation,but I. I think this is good because

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otherwise you just see nothingbut shirts.
So.
Hey.
That part, that part.
Okay, okay, okay.
I got the Wild Bills.
Okay, this is the antidoteright here.
This is a wild.

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I got the antidote and the cheeses.
I got cheeses here.
Okay.
Yes, sir.
How are you doing thisevening, man?

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Oh, you're muted.
Take off your mute some reason.
Yeah, it says you're muted.
There we go.
Have I been talking this whole time?
I said a bunch of cool stuff too.
You had to repeat it now.
Yeah, yeah, just repeat it.
Yeah, I made a joke about youand chocolate and falling asleep.
I said, the worldnotwithstanding that, we're good.
You know what I mean?
Again, no, thank you guys forhaving me.
I'm just really happy to be here.

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I appreciate you guys.
It's just been really, reallyawesome just even getting this opportunity
to talk to you guys and to beon, you know, Blurred's Ivy podcast
and just politic with everybody.
So I appreciate it.
Just out the gate.
I appreciate it.
Look, it's great having you onbecause first off, as you know, we're
over at Blair Station as welland seeing Air Force Ones when we

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seen that trailer.
And the way.
The way Hell Spawn just.
He said, there's no other wayto say but black people in Gundams
and Selling point.
That's.
That's the selling point.
Yeah.
You know, man, I've beenworking on it for a while, honestly,
and it's a.
For us older anime lovers andanime heads, right?

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Like, it's a love letter toRobotech into the original Gundam
and all of that stuff because.
Yeah, right.
So we didn't even.
Back then, like, yeah, you hadBowie Grant and you had like the
Grant family, right?
But those are the only blackpeople you saw really, in any of
that stuff.
And they weren't main characters.
Claudia didn't get to fly nothing.
I love Claudia, but you knowwhat I mean?
Like, we were always like,also Ransack, right?

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And so I always wanted to do that.
And honestly, man, the ideacame to me in the middle of the night
one night.
Most of the time, if you likeme, you get an idea in the middle
of the night, you don't writeit down, you don't tell nobody, and
you forget it in the morning,this one stuck with me, right?
All I had was the title.
I was like.
I had hit up a friend of minewhen I woke up, and I was like, air
Force Ones.
I was like, but they're pilots.

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And they looked at me like Iwas a fool.
And I was like, trust me.
Like, just trust me.
Trust the process.
Right, right, right.
And yeah.
Yeah.
So it just.
It came together like that again.
I started with.
Started taking.
When I had the real idea, Istarted taking Gundam pictures, right?
Like Gundam posters.
And I was trying to put mylettering and stuff on there, like,

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to really, like, matriculatethe vision.
Like, hey, it's gonna be this big.
But this is where we'restarting and getting the logo and
just getting the look, right?
And then just creating thatintersection in that cross section
of like, shoe culture, popularculture, Gundam culture.
Like all these things that Ifeel like in our community have been
married for a long time, andjust bringing that into, like, a

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bigger form.
That was really, really what Iwanted to do.
And like I said, it's a lovestory and it's a love letter to.
To.
To the things I grew up on.
I should.
I wanna.
I wanted to be a Gundam pilot.
And so I want to be able toshow that, you know?
Yeah.
Still do.
I'm real disappointed in theSpace Force, bro.
I thought I was like, oh, wegonna get some Gundams.
And then, you know, look whatwe got.

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Yeah.
Look at what we got.
Okay.
I get hurt.
Oh, my Lord.
I.
So I. I gotta ask you, whenyou said it was a love letter to.
Especially all the mech animethat we came up with, you know, like
Gundam across.
Was it Venus Wars?
Oh, my goodness, the list goeson and on and on.

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So was there a particularproperty that just said, this is
the.
This is the main song in that love.
In that love letter to whatI'm creating.
For me, it would honestly haveto be Robotech.
And that's because that wasthe very first one I ever saw, right?
So I can remember being.

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I think I was like three yearsold when it was actually airing on
TV, you know, before we had toget it on DVDs and everything else.
And so I remember very vividlywatching the episode or the after
effects of the episode whereRoy Foker dies, right?
And I had never before.
And since really, I had neverseen that on, like, American TV like

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that.
You don't see cartoons.
Didn't have debts.
Anyway.
Yeah, exactly.
So.
So that one was a thing.
And I always had this dream, Iguess, of if I could do anything
I wanted, tomorrow I would doa four part movie series of the Robotech,

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you know, the Macross saga.
And it would be this big BazLuhrmann type production with those
angles and that kind ofartistry and musicality and all of
that stuff.
Right.
Because it's a space opera.
And so I wanted to dosomething that was reminiscent of
that but very, very muchgrounded in who I am and my ideas
and thoughts and again, mycultural ideas and thoughts.

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As the series progresses,you're gonna see how very much of
a.
Of a LA story this is as aCalifornia story this is as the story
progresses.
We're in the 7th Ward now.
That's like the big main placewe are.
They're gonna go to otherwards and third Ward folks.
Hey, we don't mess with sevenWard, you know, blah, blah, blah,

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you know, so it's, it's very,very tribal, very, for lack of better
words, gang culture oriented,but not in the pejorative way.
Right.
There is a lot of social blackculture that's interconnected with
what's contemporarily calledgang culture or California, you know
what I mean?
Like all those little nuances.
Whereas we understand that acertain way.

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We know where to go, who totalk to, how to phrase things and
everything and not beaffiliated at all.
But we can still move in thosecircles and move around those circles
and they move around us.
Other people have not beenexposed to that and they have no
idea it's gang culture.
Bad.
Red red rag bad.
No matter what's going on.
And that's not necessarily the case.
Right.
There are all these nuancesabout our culture in general that

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I like infusing into thestories that I'm writing.
And I think that a Gundamstyle mech, anime and manga is the
perfect way to show thattribalism and to show that fight
for freedom.
So I noticed that in yourbackground and on your shirt.
Yes, yes, yes, sir.
Are several of the mechs thatare in.

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Going to be in Air Force Ones.
Yes, yes.
So in, in volume one, all themix that you see here are actually.
These are our four.
I think you can see all fourof them.
These are our four main mechs here.
The Gilgamesh, the Yasuke, theOld Gun and the Kitsune.
I have the Kitsune on my shirt here.
Real men wear pink, as my boyCameron used to say.

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I want that shirt too.
Oh, oh man.
We, you know, it's gonna be onthe website Real, real soon, right?
We just.
My wife is the genius behindthis one.
I had this poster a friend didfor me, and I just had it.
I was gonna sell it as a printand she was like, if you don't get
me a shirt so I can wear that.
And I was like, if you don't o.
But I listened to her.

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I defer to her.
You had no choice, man.
You had no choice, right?
And it came out dope.
So actually this was supposedto be her shirt.
Actually, this is the one Iordered for her.
And then it came out, thepackage, and I was like, oh, oops,
I bought it too big for you, baby.
I gotta wear it.
You know what I'm saying?
So.
Oh.
Oh, no, you can't wear this.

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This is not flattery.
That side eye was probably legendary.
Just.
Just look at you.
Like, right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, I think it's.
There's a part.
Part of it always be branding,you know, is.
That's what they say.
But at the same time, man, Ihonestly enjoy this so damn much
that I want to wear it.

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Right?
Like, I want to wear theseshirts out.
I love the characters.
I love what I'm doing.
And not just because I'm doingit, because I get to see it, man.
And.
And having other people likeit and other people get down.
It's just.
It's.
It's everything to me, right.
Like, it's.
I love all the things thatWingless Comics does.
I love all the things thatI've created.
I love all the things I'vecreated with other people editing
and all this other stuff.
Air Force Ones and the onesuniverse is.

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Is.
Is a different beast for me.
I want to.
Before we go on, I want toshow the new trailer that you have
because obviously the firstone had literally the Air Force Ones
by Nelly and the same lunatics.
Yeah.
And we.
We couldn't use that copyright.
Right.
But.
Right, right.
So here's the.
Here's the.

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The newest version with itsown music.
And here we go.
They were never meant to flynow they'll tear down the sky Rising

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from the ashes of a failedpeace I.
Look into a broken mirror and still.
See me Is this a nightmare ora broken dream?
I step inside and take controlof my destiny A vessel made for righteous
wrath Reigniting fires of awar torn.
Past I'd sacrifice all that Ihave if faith could save me from

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this B.
They were never meant to flyout now they'll tear down the sky
Air Force wants Fire.

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Okay, I want the song.
Okay?
I want that song.
I want it, I want it on repeatbecause it makes me just want to
just go out and just do some stuff.
See, that's what I'm talkingabout, sir.
This is giving, it gives.
It gives your typical animefeel, man.
I ain't gonna lie.
So again, I love my wife andshe loves me, obviously, because
she haven't killed me yet.

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Because like you said, I'vebeen playing that thing non stop.
My ADHD and ADHD, I can listento that thing 12 times in a row and
not be phased at all.
I'm just into it.
So if y' all know about theair, if y' all know about the ADHD
out there, you know, you trulyunderstand when you are transfixed
on something, you listen tothe same thing or watch the same

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thing for hours.
Right?
Right?
Yeah, man.
So it's again, man, it's justbeen, it's been very, very dope.
I love the song.
The song is actually, it'sactually not just for that opening
either.
It's a full.
It's the full length song.
There's a full length versionthat I will be releasing in parts
because again, I want to putsome more trailer materials together,

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some other stuff together, andas we go start producing volume two,
that's going to be a thing.
I am going to end up releasingthe entire song.
I. I feel like we're going totake it to streaming platforms and
the whole deal, like do a fullrelease for it is why I love it that
much.
And so it don't matter if it'sgonna have a million of streams,
if for no other reason thanI've streamed it a million times.

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So, you know, again, man, I, Ithink that there are a lot of properties
and a lot of things that wesee in our again in our community
and in the wider comiccommunity in general.
And I, I'm not setting out toprove that you don't need a million
dollars to do somethingbeneficial or do something great
or do something of high quality.
But I am doing it right.

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Like my, my goal is tocomplete this project.
My goal is to do the nextthing and invest and invest and show
that there is kind of a pathand you don't.
Again, you don't have to.
I don't need to fleeceeverybody for a bunch of money to
do a small thing right.
Like, I invest in myself.
I make sure again, even whenyou see the animation, that animation
is top quality animation.

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The song is top quality songsyou don't skimp just because you
don't have a, a, a pocket fullof money.
You just have to take the timeand plan it out and do it right.
And I realized that like lifecomics and all this other stuff,
we get judged by the worst ofus and not by the best of us.
The best of us is the exception.

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Oh my God.
It's how you know you're,you're amazing because you did that.
Not everybody could do that,but the worst of us.
Yeah, that's how all of youguys are.
So the same thing goes for comics.
If you see a, a bad blackindie comic, then somebody goes,
see, that's what indie comics are.
That's what black indie comics are.
No, everything you'll thinkout of Wingless is, is 100 the best
quality that we can do at the time.
And we're just going to keepleveling up and we started at a quality

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that's at least on par withthe big two.
And we're just going to get better.
And I mean that for every project.
That we do, I, what I've seenand like I said, Malachi Bailey's
been on the show before acouple times and talking about her
and when you see the level ofher and then you see immortals and
then you see justice and nowyou have fades that you're working
on.
Let's talk about thoseprojects too.

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Like yeah, these are thingsand we, we said here, here on the
platform like we love ourblack indie creators because they
are giving us stories that wecan't get anywhere else.
They're giving us charactersthat aren't just weather based or
electricity based powers.
Like in most, in most cases,origin story is better storyline.

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Story arcs are much better.
Like it just leave.
It's not the same repetitivething over and over and over.
And you don't have the whole,we're gonna do a seven story arc
and then we're gonna startover with a new writer and put somebody
else.
And you scrap everything frombefore you guys.

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And I mean black creativeindie creators have given us something
that goes on and on and itjust gets better and better and we
get more and it's like.
And we're starving for it.
We're like, yes, I need moreof that.
And the fact that you haven'tgone like commercial in the sense
of it becomes watered down isa godsend.

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You know, a really good friendof mine and I consider him a mentor
as well and appear and abusiness partner.
Jason Reeves, man reallyschooled me on some stuff when I
first got into the game,right, and look, I'm over Jason's
house once or twice, you know,a month or whatever.
Like, that's my, that's my people.
And when I first got in, Iwanted to do this.
Like you said, I want to do asix issue arc that does this and

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that and all this other stuff.
Right.
And he was like, why, whywould you, why would you make people
wait that long?
You know, an indie comic doesone, maybe two a year, right?
That's just the cycle.
And it happens until you catch fire.
So he was like, get your storyright, do it in four issues because
then you get to tell the next story.
And that is probably thebiggest hurdle for indie comics,
being able to tell the next story.

(27:15):
Right.
Like, you have to continue toinvest and continue to invest, but
it's not a bad thing.
It's, it's actually somethingthat helps stories matriculate as
opposed to, and don't get mewrong, I grew up on Marvel and DC
Image.
I still, you know, I stillhave affinity for those comics.
I don't necessarily collectthe way I.
Used to, but I can't say thatmy corner is taller than me now.

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So, yeah, I can't say that.
Right, right.
It's.
It's hard.
So I do like some of the newstuff they're coming out with.
I, I won't deny that.
Right.
Like the, the new Wonder Womanand Batman series.
I like some of their shorterstuff that they're starting to do,
the absolute stuff and some ofthe shorter things that they're doing.
Because again, you get boggeddown by hundreds of years of, of
continuity that folds back on itself.

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And I think that that bogsdown American comics.
Right.
Whereas necessarily manga,even if it'll have hundreds of issues,
it's not bogged down by thecontinuity issues.
Right.
And I think that that'ssomething that helps it sell in this
market a little bitdifferently than a superhero comic.
Also, manga, you mentioned fades.
Manga allows you to tell adiverse, a more diverse group of

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stories than is traditionallywelcomed in American comics.
Now, American comics does doall of it, but people don't associate
American comics with all thesedifferent genres of things.
Whereas they do that for, for manga.
And so with something likefades and like you said, telling
stories that we don't normallyget to see.
Fades is a project like that.
Fades is, is an anime, sorry,not an anime.

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Fades is a manga I'mdeveloping based around a barber
shop.
And it's going to be a sliceof life barber shop manga.
Right.
Where, where you get to seeour culturally dive.
Again, a barbershop is sacredto us, right?
A barbershop is holy ground.
You can have two crews beefand you can have all this other going

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on, right?
They step in a barbershop,everything knock it off, right?
And Right, right.
And so those kinds of thingsare important, right?
And, and the, the show, thesocial aspects of a barber shop.
Unless you've been into abarbershop, you don't understand
it, right?
But the moment you get in one,you understand it.
And, and again, we don't getthose kind of stories.
We have the movie Barbershop, right?

(29:23):
We have the movie Beauty Shop,but we've never had a comic or a
manga do that.
Whereas Food wars could do itand they could just be talking about
food, right?
So makes it hungry too, you know.
So, so I wanted to do thatsame kind of thing with, again, something
that's culturally relevant for us.
And for me, that's a barbershop.

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For me, that's, you know,getting in there and seeing somebody
want to be the best barber,you know, because their father was.
And however that storymatures, I think all those things
are, are incredibly important.
Also, I learned from JasonReeves controlling the means of production.
Right?
Money is good, and I willnever say money is not good.

(30:07):
We can always use more moneyto do more production, right?
But all money ain't good money.
So if I want to continue myvoice and I want to keep the means
of production and I want to dowhat I want to do, then there are
certain things that I can't take.
There are certain deals that Ican't really get into.
I've had a number of, a numberof offers, quote unquote, you know,
for IP licensing and on and onand on.

(30:28):
And while they might look goodon the surface, somebody's like,
oh yeah, I'll give you 100kfor justice.
Okay, over what kind of a timeperiod, over what are the constraints?
What kind of creation can I doafter I give you this IP licensing
deal?
Right?
And again, 100k for a year is,is nice.
It's okay.
But if you're talking about100k over 10 years, that means nothing

(30:48):
to me.
Right?
Like, so it's all these littlethings that go into what we control
and how we should be takingover and controlling the narratives
of, of, of who we aresocially, which we don't necessarily
get to do.
Other people get to controlwho they are socially.
If, if we're talking aboutmanga, talking about anime, if I

(31:09):
put on a samurai helmet right?
Now everybody knows that'sJapanese, right?
So I'm doing something that'sculturally relevant to Japanese people
and blah, whatever it might be.
If someone goes out there andraps or somebody goes out and does
K Pop.
Demon Hunters, a movie which I love.
Let me put.
Put it out there.
I thought it was dope.
I love the music.
I think it's great.
Right?

(31:29):
But the fact of the matter isK pop itself, not the movie, but
K pop, the genre itself isjust R B, Right?
And R B doesn't get that.
Props for that.
It's not.
When they do K Pop and they doK pop Demon Hunters, it's not like,
oh, they're doing a black thing.
And it culturally goes backto, oh, man, let's give some props
to black people because theyinvented this, right?
And it's culturally relevantto them and it's part of their cultural

(31:50):
identity.
It's not that it's.
Well, K pop is different.
No, it's not.
It's not.
It's just done by different people.
Right.
And so I think that that's apart that we try, that I try to infuse
in my stories and I try toinfuse in everything that we're doing
and how we control ournarratives and how we produce the
stories that we produce.
I think that's incredibly important.
Yeah, I think so, too.

(32:11):
Voices Sauce says indie comicsare better than mainstream comics
nowadays.
What we see in the main.
Main books are regurgitated mess.
We have Wingless.
Don't produce no mess.
Hey.
Right, so this is true.
This is true.
This is back to what I wassaying about repetitive storylines

(32:32):
and just kind of repeat once again.
It's great.
I'll use Superman as an example.
There's a reason why I didn'tget Superman comics after a certain
point in my life, because whatdo you do with that character?
You can't always have himfight Doomsday.
You can't always have himfight Apocalypse.
Like, what do you do?
Like, you have.

(32:53):
You change the power set, youchange the scaling of powers, you
change the village.
You can't.
You can't always have LexLuthor involved.
What do you do with over 80years of history?
There's.
There's got to be a story thatyou haven't been able to tell yet.
The fact that they evenintroduced his kid now and been able

(33:14):
to tell stories with it hasbeen a miracle in a way.
That it can tell more storieshas been a miracle in itself.
So that's just an example.
Like, how many times can youdo it?
Yeah.
And.
And I also think that.
Well, in my opinion, my humbleopinion, I think they've lost the
plot a lot of times onSuperman, right?

(33:34):
Because it becomes one of two camps.
It's either, like, we got thedark and broody Superman or Superman
is all about hope.
And, like, both things areactually true, right?
Like, Superman, in my opinion,is a very tortured individual.
Right?
Oh, yeah.
He's.
He's got to be a man conflicted.
He does have all this power.
I love Bruce Timm did it with.

(33:56):
At the very end of JusticeLeague Unlimited, where he lets loose
on Apocalypse on.
On Dark side, right?
For, like, the last time.
And he tells.
He tells him, like, I walkaround in the world of, like, cardboard
and tissue paper, and, like, Iforget that I can actually let loose
and.
And go to town and go to work, right?

(34:16):
It's a great speech that hegives, right?
And so I think that were Iwriting a Superman story, you would
see how tortured he is withthat, right?
Because he's got to be thisbeacon of hope.
But that can't be.
That can't be possible all thetime, or it can't be easy all the
time, right?
He's got to be this person that.
That's with kid gloves all thetime, even with the people he loves.
He's got to hold back even histemper, right?

(34:38):
Like, and I know they showed aflash of that, like, in the.
In the James Gunn stuff, right?
But even then, right, like,his temper has to be so under control
that he can't yell, because ifhe yells, he could, like, rend the
flesh from your body with justhis voice.
Like, there are those.
There are so many things that.
And so many nuanced levels andlayers of who he could be, right?

(35:01):
And.
And how he probably should bedone in order to.
To reinvigorate his stories.
Similarly, like, Batman.
Batman is his greatest.
When he's a great detective.
I get it.
He's kung fu dude.
I love it.
He does a bunch of cool.
He's got gadgets and stuff, too.
But, like, when he's actuallythe world's greatest detective, that's
when you get the best storiesfrom him.

(35:21):
Yeah.
And they.
Again, they lose that a lot oftimes, right, In.
In favor of the Flash and Dash.
And.
And so a way that I think thatindie comics.
Excuse me, let me say this.
A way that good indie comicsand indie comics, not amateur comics,
right?
Because those are twodifferent things, right?

(35:43):
Doing well is.
We're able to tell thosediverse stories.
Right.
And sometimes indie comics andamateur comics get conflated.
And that is also an issue.
You have a lot of amateurcomic writers, which I'm.
There's no shade to them.
They are doing their dream andtheir passion and they should continue
to do it.
But there is a differencebetween the Saturday morning cartoon
guy who watched X Men, theoriginal run of X Men.

(36:05):
It was like, I want to do comics.
Never studied anything, neverread anything, never learned story,
never learned how to write thebasic stuff and then does a comic.
You can tell when that comiccomes out.
Whereas someone who's studiedtheir craft and studied storytelling
and really has a passion forit, does it.
And those are two completelydifferent realms of storytelling

(36:26):
there.
And.
And when you mentioned.
I'm glad you mentioned, like,the storytelling aspect, especially
when you have different writers.
When I.
When you mention Batman beinglike, when he.
You tell those detective stories.
Those are the best stories.
There's a reason why ChipsZdarsky's run on Daredevil is such
a great run because, like,he's telling a different version.

(36:47):
There's a reason why Hickman'srun on Fantastic Four, X Men.
Right.
You know, whatever else youtouch is a reason.
He's like, I have this story.
I want to tell it.
It's going to be good becauseit's going to make you.
Make you go somewhere whereyou haven't been before, haven't
been in a lot in a long time.
Make it build something out from.

(37:08):
From this point on.
So you're right.
When you have writers in theindie field who just, oh, I like
it and I'm just gonna writeit, like, yes, but is it.
Do you really want to be soone dimensional?
Right.
Really?
Writer say, wow, I neverexpected to see it that way.
I never expected to feel thisway about seeing a film or watching

(37:31):
a movie or watching atelevision show or even reading a
comic or a novel for that matter.
Yeah, see, now I'm see adifferent version of what I'm seeing.
James Gunn, Guardians of theGalaxy, all three volumes.
You watch them in the first entirety.
You're like, great superhero films.
You didn't think this wasRocket Story the whole time until

(37:51):
third film.
Now you go back and be like,oh, wow, it's.
There was another level, youknow, so it's.
It get that people don't understand.
A lot of people don't get tosee that aspect in writing in indie
comics.
They just say, I'm going totell a story.
And that's.
And that's.
The end of it.
And I, I think that's where alot of people are gravitating to

(38:12):
the more independentcompanies, you know, like image,
boom, idw, Ignition.
They're, they're, they'rehungry for something outside the
normal parameters that havebeen set through all these years.
You know, you have thispantheon of heroes from the Justice
League and, and you know,people don't know that much about
the Justice Society.

(38:32):
And you, you know, you see theTeen Titans, but you don't really
hear about Young Justice.
And you go on Marvel sides.
You got the New warriors andthe Young Avengers, but you really
don't hear that much aboutthem until something significant
happens and then it becomes abig media blitz.
And when you mentioned aboutindie comics writing, the crazy thing

(38:54):
is the first step, the firsttitle that popped up in my head was
Irredeemable.
Mark Wade writing onIrredeemable, flawlessly incredible
because it showed a superherowho's so op that no one else could
touch him, but he goes on arampage because something happens
to him.
And I think when you mentionedSuperman, I said, there's parallels
in that story, except oneholds restraint.

(39:16):
The other just said, nah, I,I, I'm done.
I'm good.
Yeah, I'm good.
Right?
And then that's very rare thatyou get that kind of storytelling
or even just even a twist as,as easy as Batman and Wonder Woman
being the couple and notSuperman and Wonder Woman.
Right?
Hello.
That's mind blowing forpeople, right?
But it makes perfect sense andit gives you some different storytelling

(39:38):
aspects.
But then also you get the samething where you do something like
injustice in that story,right, where Superman, because Joker
has, makes him kill Lois, youknow what I mean?
And then he goes and becomesthis authoritarian and all this stuff.
But then it goes on too longbecause then they want to milk it
for all the money they can andthe story becomes stupid and convoluted

(39:58):
as opposed to doing somethinglike, like, well, they even did with
Kingdom Come.
Kingdom Come.
Look, beginning to end.
Alex Ross.
Brilliant.
Boom.
In, out, let's go.
Right, and that's, and that's done.
And it's, it's over.
And then they got to do theKingdom, you know what I mean?
And don't get me wrong, I readall of the Kingdom and it was stupid,
but I still loved it as a kid,a, as a younger man.
Right?
But it was dumb.
It didn't need to be done.

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And that's one of theproblems, I think, with, with capitalism.
Right?
Like, that's what it Boilsdown to, oh, we want to try to wring
some more money out of thisproperty, as opposed to having something
that's dope as hell and thensailing off into the sunset.
Which is why Milestone tookoff so well, because it was off the
beaten path.
Even though DC published it,they didn't own it.

(40:40):
And Milestone said, okay,we're going to create this entire
ecosystem of nothing butpeople of color, and let's see them
go through their normal problems.
But now they have superpowersthey didn't expect.
And I said the whole thing,the setup was incredible.
That's why I'm always aMilestone fan.
Always, right?
I'm a. I'm a depressedMilestone fan.

(41:04):
I ain't gonna lie.
That relaunch, man.
So.
Oh, you know, look, look,Dennis and Reggie and.
And Joe and all of those guys.
Again, I know Joe Illage.
You know, I've met DennisCowan before.
Again, it's not like I knowhim and I'm an inbox him or nothing.
And I got nothing againstthose guys.
But what I wish, like, mypersonal wish is that they had called

(41:26):
the indie market, the blackindie market for some of these up
and coming writers, right?
And some of these up andcoming artists and really, really
relaunched Marvel.
I mean, sorry, Milestone, if.
If you could have had somebodylike Greg Anderson, Elise on.
On Zombie, right?
Like.
Again, if you could have gotsomebody like.

(41:48):
Like Jason Reeves on.
On Hardware.
And don't get me wrong, I knowthese guys want to tell their stories
because they're their characters.
So I'm not saying that they shouldn't.
What I am saying is if theyhad really brought up the next generation
along with them in thisrelaunch, I think it would have been
more sustainable.
I think that they wouldn'thave had some of the publishing and

(42:09):
production issues woes thatthey had.
I think.
I just think that there werejust some man, Some other things
that they could have done.
And I know.
I know for a fact that theblack indie community would have
backed them and supportedthem, because we did, regardless
of that.
And so I think that thatsupport would have tripled or quadrupled
if.

(42:29):
If Milestone was as much amovement this time as it was last
time, right?
It was a movie because wehadn't seen that in comics the first
time.
The second time, it.
In my opinion, it should havebeen a gathering, right?
Like the.
My.
Like when they even had theMilestone initiative and Dorado Quick.
That's my guy.
Greg Burnham is my guy.
And I'm glad that they got todo Their thing.

(42:50):
But that should have been amovement, right?
Like, that should have beenthe churning that started something
else.
And unfortunately, that didn't happen.
So that makes me a verydepressed, you know, Milestone fan
in that regard.
You know, this is one of thereasons why, like, Blair Station
is existing.
Is existing right now.
Being able to take a lot ofthese stories and put them in other

(43:13):
mediums, in most cases, stayin the same medium and still get
out, to get out to the massesonce again.
There are stories that can betold in fresh, new ways, you know,
and we.
We're having thoseopportunities now.
And you're right.

(43:34):
In the situation, like, withthe Milestone relaunch, you know,
it was there.
We were happy because we gotit, but then it was just like.
Yeah, but did it feel like thesame boom that we got in the early
90s?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, and it felt.
It felt cold a little bit.
It felt like he waskneecapped, you know, to a degree.
And I'm like, man, we shouldbe hearing more about this.

(43:54):
Why are we not getting more?
And why are you releasing itin the way that you really.
Oh, there's a problem.
Yeah.
And I agree with Brian.
It should have been a movement.
Because when.
When Milestone, when the wordI got nothing, Milestone was coming
back, I sat there andliterally thought, now the door is
going to open for these otherblack comic creators who've been

(44:16):
waiting for this door to openso they can come in.
And so, hey, I want to be on board.
I want to bring my charactersalong with this universe so that
way people can see there'smore to it than the standard characters
that people have been seeingfor years.
And I think somewhere alongthe lines, somebody said, yeah, that's
a bit too much, so we're goingto kneecap it.

(44:38):
Right?
But I think what they fail torealize is you can trip somebody
up, but.
But unless they fall and don'tmove, they're gonna keep moving.
And these different companiesout here know Wingless and Ray and.
And Midnight Comics, doingGod's work, okay.
Something I can introduce tomy grandchildren and that I'm.

(44:58):
I'm very proud to be a part of.
So.
Sir.
You know, so I think that.
I think that a piece of it,and it's unfortunate, right?
But I feel like.
And again, I'm not in D.C.editorial, so I don't actually know,
right.
But I feel like some of itstagnated and it fell back on some
of those old storytellingmechanics, even, whereas we wanted

(45:19):
something newer and.
And fresher and an updatedtake on, on what we had seen before.
And, and you do have, again,you get, you got people like Sebastian
and Stranger Comics and Uraeuswho just launched Jason Wise.
Yeah, there's, there are thesecrazy, crazy movements going on.
Right.
Got the brother who did DarkPink over there.
You know, just so many thingsthat, that again, there's so much

(45:43):
potential and so much that canbe mined from this community that
mainstream hasn't reallyrealized yet.
Which I, I think that's a plusand a minus.
Right.
Because mainstream has a wayof, once they find out, they try
to mine everything until it's dead.
Thank you.
And, and, and, and thatbecomes a casualty.
So there's a part of me that'shappy that that hasn't happened yet.

(46:05):
And I hope by the time thatmainstream does get aware and does
try to do that, attempt to dothat, I hope that we are educated
enough, Right.
To, to take the benefits ofthat but not suffer the consequences.
And that comes into thebusiness aspects of it.
Right.
And the contracts and whatwe're willing to do and not willing
to do and knowing our valueand annoying our worth.

(46:27):
So I'm hoping that there's agiven, a give and take because again,
it's bound to happen.
It's, again, it's, it's, it's capitalism.
It's going to happen at some point.
Right.
But if we're educated and ifwe are, if we know what to do, then
it won't matter if we know.
Our power keep, keepharnessing so we can become stronger

(46:48):
and they can't take from us.
So we talked about Air ForceOnes, we talked about the main, the
main three a little bit andwhere they, where they're stumbling
and we talked about some ofthe black creative indies that are
out here.
Let's talk about some of theother titles you have going on.
Yes, sir.
Please.

(47:08):
So the Wings, the Wingless Universe.
I'm very fortunate.
The Wingless Universe is aninterconnected universe and as we
get more issues, you see the interconnectivity.
So we started out withNightfall, which is a, a five part
series that we.
The beginning and ending.
It's five part crossoverseries that had justice, it featured
justice, it featured her, itfeatured Caliburn, it featured Avery

(47:29):
the Astonishing and it had acouple cameos across the indie universe.
So that sets the stage for allof our characters kind of coming
together.
Like I said, I mentioned her.
And that is Malachi Bailey'scharacter that spun off from his
novel, his award winningnovel, her.
And then he had the secondvolume of that novel.
And he's working on the thirdright now to end her trilogy in novel

(47:52):
form.
And she will continue heradventures in comics.
And so her is a waterelemental and immortal that every
time she dies, she has to comeback and remember her life and figure
out her life and figure outwhy she is being killed.
She's known as the oldestwoman because she's been around since
the beginning of time.
So she's got a lot of mysteryand a lot of.

(48:13):
Of things kind of in hercorner and also against her.
So I love seeing her andjustice together, because justice
is said to be the angel thatbarred the gates of Eden and that
brought down the walls of Jericho.
And obviously he's been doingall these ethereal things right throughout
the universe and throughoutthe galaxy as our timeline has gone
on.
So to see those two interact,like, I love how they crisscross

(48:36):
each other.
And you're going to see adeeper history between those two
as well.
We also have Immortalis.
And Immortalis is the story ofthe fall of the last bastion of the
Roman Empire.
And so basically, that setsthe stage for everything that happens
in the Wing, the contemporaryWingless universe.
So Immortalis is set slightlyin the past, a couple hundred years

(48:57):
in the past, and it watchesConstantinople fall, which opens
the gateway for darkness.
Right.
Wingless.
The Wingless universe is aquote unquote, dark universe, right?
It's our timeline.
But if, if the worst of theworst demons and.
And monsters were let looseand we had no heroes to stop them.

(49:17):
And so Immortalis sets thestage for that.
It's the last pass, you know,the last place, you know, the last
holdout.
We also have, for lack ofbetter words, acquired.
And we're working inpartnership with Constant Hustle
comics and Lawrence James Kingand Avery the Astonishing is actually
a legit and strategic part ofWingless Comics as well.

(49:38):
So Avery the Astonishing'shistory is part of Wingless.
And you'll see that as we getinto issue two, where you see, again,
where the crossovers kind of happen.
And you'll see some Eastereggs of some of the wingless characters
in the background of Avery.
So that you see they're all inthe same world as well as.
And Lawrence, you can't killme because you're on the east coast
and I'm on the West Coast.

(49:59):
But we are also going to bringover the Last Line, which is Lawrence
James King's other title for his.
His cadre of family heroes.
They're also part of theWingless Universe.
So they're probably the, the,the plan is to have them for our
next crossover, which iscalled Paradise Lost, where we bring
in all the Wingless charactersagain until a big larger than life,

(50:20):
you know, five, six part story again.
This is gonna be amazing.
We, we really try.
And I, I'm gonna, I'm gonnatake a little victory lap because
Wingless Comics, not mespecifically, but Wingless Comics
is very fortunate because alot of people set out to do crossovers

(50:42):
and set out to do multi issuearcs and just because of the way
this business is, it's notreally feasible.
It's very hard to do.
It's not an easy feat.
And Wingless Comics has beenblessed and fortunate and strategic
enough within our first twoyears, we were able to put out an
entire trade paperback, anentire five issue crossover, Right.
In addition to the othercomics that we were producing at

(51:02):
the same time.
So we look forward to beingable to do those big events because
I believe that our fans andour supporters deserve that as well.
Right.
I don't only need to seeMarvel doing, you know, the age of
Apocalypse or the aftermath of Apocalypse.
I want to be able to producethose stories myself and ourselves.
And so that's what we're doingat Wingless.

(51:24):
Right.
And that's, and that's partof, of bringing all these characters
together.
I love this, this is awesomebecause, and I'm glad you mentioned
that because when you are inthis business of comics and storytelling
and when you, you perfectlydescribed the whole crossover issue

(51:47):
with a lot of things, it's alot of politics involved.
It is, it's a lot of positiveand honestly, it's a lot of ego.
Like let's.
Yeah, I'll be real.
Right.
Like again, I started.
We did Nightfall within thefirst year we released justice number
one.
And I.
Not even, I think before hernumber one hit, you know, we were
on her zero and I was like, nightfall.

(52:07):
Okay, cool.
Nightfall number one.
Right.
Let's do it.
And we worked with ConcertHustle Comics and we worked with
Concept Moon Studios andLawrence is my, my big brother and
Brandon Diddley's my bigbrother as well.
And truth be told, me andBrandon got into it over marketing,
over all these things, right.
Not necessarily characters andwhat happens with the story because
we had hashed all that out.

(52:28):
But it's also business, right?
We forget that a lot of this.
We love what we do and it'svery passionate, but it's also business,
right?
And business takes time and ittakes communication and you have
to put your ego to the sideand you have to do what's best for
business.
And neither I nor Brandon atthe time did that to the extent that

(52:51):
we needed to.
Right.
Again, we're good now andeverything is fine.
And everything went out theway it was supposed to go out.
But initially that was hard, right?
Initially those were hard conversations.
And a lot of times we don'tget through those hard conversations.
A lot of times we just get theglitz and glam of, oh, we all put
our characters together.
Okay, great.
But what does that actually mean?
What are we actually doingwith that?

(53:12):
What is the actual goal?
And those things are importantand very, very often get overlooked
and very, very often can leadto worsening outcomes.
So again, we're fortunate withWingless that, that we were able
to strategically put thistogether and again, do it from beginning
to end.
There are a lot of companiesthat have been around 10 plus years
that haven't been able to do acrossover and to do a multi part

(53:35):
story.
And we were able to do itwithin one.
So, you know, I. I'll neverstop being thankful for that.
Wow, y'.
All.
If y' all have not had thechance to go over to Wingless, wingless
entertainment orwinglessint.com, y' all need to go
check this out because thisgives you a glimpse into what they

(53:56):
are creating here at Wingless Comics.
Let me tell you, I looked atit before when I was at work and
I work at a gaming comic book store.
So, you know, we're.
We're dealing with that allthe time.
And I went over and clicked onit and I just.
I.
So I sat so transfixed.
Takes on this that I didn'thear, hear my.
My manager go, my tail.
My.
My tail.
My tail.

(54:17):
Huh?
Oh, okay.
Got it.
And they came over and theywere trans.
I said, what are you looking at?
What were you looking at?
I was looking at that.
What's that?
And I said, well, I'm glad you asked.
And I brought him out to him.
I was kind of embarrassed,but, y', all, this is beautiful.
To see this collective talentcreate something this magical.
It.
It does something to my heart.

(54:37):
Y' all need to go check theseout because these folks is working.
Folks is working.
Okay?
It's.
I think that getting anopportunity, right, to talk about
something that I love withgentlemen that are as studied in
this craft as yourselves, right?

(54:58):
Like, you guys aren't just,hey, I sat down and did a podcast,
right?
Like, you know, comics, youknow, conventions, you know, material,
you know, stories.
And to be able to come andtalk story and say, like.
And have someone say, hey,man, this is dope.
Like, I genuinely.
Hey, I just really like thisthing that you're doing.
Not the promotion side, notthe other thing.
Like, I want to see the shirt.

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I want to see the character.
I want to.
That means a lot more.
Look, sales are great, butsales come and go.
True.
What doesn't come and go ispeople that are actually interested
in the work you do, right?
And so I think for me, thatthat is more quantifiable.
Not in dollars and cents,obviously, but it's more quantifiable

(55:40):
and it means more to mepersonally, right?
Because.
And I said this when I firsthit the scene, I was like, I can
write justice for the rest ofmy life, right?
Like, that can come out of myown pocket, and I can produce that
and publish that.
I own the means of productionfor that.
So that's never going to goaway if I don't want it to.
To.
Same for Air Force One.
Same for the things that I'm doing.
But when you have somebodythat wants to read it or have someone

(56:02):
that's interested orunderstands where you're coming from,
when you talk about Macross orwhen you talk about Battleship, Yamato,
you know what I mean?
Like, when people know you'relike, man, I'm gonna do this thing,
and then they can really getwith you.
Like, that's a.
That's a.
That's a different level ofsuccess, right?
That's a different level of achievement.
And that's the level that.

(56:23):
That too, sometimes, to theconsternation and annoyance of Brett
and Lawrence and Malachi andmy wife and everybody else that,
like, I try to live up to, right?
Because we're gonna come out and.
Nah, Mal, write that again.
Nah, Mal, write that again.
Nah, that don't make no sense.
Write it again.
Right?
And he's gonna hate me by theend of the editing process.

(56:43):
When it comes out, it's gonnabe fired up, you know?
But when you get to the end ofthat process and he looks back and
goes, I see what you weretalking about.
Now you've planted that seed.
And as that seed continues togrow, you created something beautiful,
right?
And that's always thefoundation of companies like Wingless
Comics and Noah, like Midnight Comics.

(57:03):
Just a beautiful collective of.
Of imagination and creativity and.
And dedication.
Because we mentioned before,Marvel and dc, I. I hate to say y'
all are getting kind ofcomplacent because you're expecting
people to come to Your stuff.
But I realized if it, if itmatters or not, however, you have

(57:24):
companies like WinglessComics, like Ray Comics, like Midnight,
who are going, oh, you wantsomething that's meaningful and that's
created.
Come on.
Come on over.
Come on.
You got Kingwood, you know.
Right.
Killer B.
You got things like that.
Exactly, exactly.
You got things like this.
So it.
It really is.

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It's more than a breath offresh air.
It's just awake.
Yeah, yeah.
Spartans in the building.
Our ship.
Right?
What's going on?
Yeah, Deacon Deadlift is way tired.
So I.

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This.
It's been, it's.
It's.
It's a refreshing thing whenyou have like maybe, just maybe didn't
even name a fraction of theblack owned.
Right?
That's like a portion.
It's not.
I don't know if that's how youcan place it, but that's just a.
That's just the tip of the iceberg.

(58:26):
Other people that we, We'velisted, like, there are so many more
who have, like, some.
They either have great art,great storytelling, fresh new ideas,
original ideas, representationacross the board, different shades,
colors, backgrounds.

(58:49):
This is why a lot of something that's.
Something that's incrediblyimportant, that again, gets missed
with some of the things thatwe see out of Marvel and DC and whoever.
Right.
Is culture is just asimportant or more important even
than color.
Color, right.
So I.
There, There is always thatargument of like, oh, well, we don't
want reskinned characters and blah.

(59:10):
Look, I want it all.
Give me.
If, if every.
If you turn.
If DC turns every redheadedcharacter into a black character,
all ATV shows, fine, I'm coolwith that.
But again, that's not where it stops.
I'm not going to cheer that on.
And for that to be the end,the, the goal, right, is to represent
who we are as a culture.
And I think that I, I alwayswork with this idea of cultural exchange,

(59:32):
which I think is very, very big.
And I don't think that blackpeople get the credit for.
For doing it and having doneit historically, that we deserve.
And I, when I say that, I meanlike black Americans, right?
Because again, that getsconflated when you say black people,
then it's like, oh, man, the diaspora.
I'm not, it's not necessarilywhat I'm talking about.
And that's no disrespect toanyone in the diaspora.

(59:53):
What I am saying, though, isthat there are a lot of things.
You have UK Drill rap now.
Right?
Right.
But UK Drill rap comes fromDrill Rap, which comes from rap,
which come.
Again, let's, let's go back.
Okay, so that's.
Again, that's a black Americanthing that started.
And there are so many thingslike that again, that, that happens
again.
K pop is, is a big one.
You can talk about a lot ofthe Harajuku culture in Japan and

(01:00:16):
on and on and on.
And I have no problem with anyof these things, right?
Because those cultures don'tnecessarily take credit.
Like they invented it.
It.
What happens in America thoughis they repackage it like those people
are saying that they invented it.
And so I think it's veryimportant for our cultural identity
to be matriculated in a waythat we decide it is and we say,

(01:00:39):
hey, basically, like they doto us, right?
We're loaning this to you.
Look, I can go into a mangaspace, I can go into an anime space,
but I realize that it's onloan, right?
Like it's.
Someone else created it.
I'm just doing my thing within it.
And, and it's.
It's high time for how we tellstories and how we, how we dispense

(01:01:01):
and disperse our culture to bedone that same way.
No, no, you can do it.
Right?
But this is us.
I am so tired of KimKardashian being the one who created
a wife beater or cornrows orwhatever else, you know, I mean,
like, it just makes zero sense.
Sense, right?
But again, that in theAmerican press, that's what's what
happens.
And so I think that thecultural exchange and how we deal

(01:01:24):
with what we culturally lendother people needs to change.
And I think that starts withstorytelling, at least for me, right?
There are going to be otherpeople that do it in other ways.
For me and for the blackcomics community, it starts with
storytelling.
It starts with this word of mouth.
It's.
Look for the rap artist.
It starts with yourstorytelling, bro.
It starts with your beats, itstarts with your music.
And I think that that's justincredibly important.

(01:01:45):
And when we're doing that, andwe're doing that at our highest level,
we can't be beat.
Like, and that's just, that'sjust the fact of the matter, right?
When we're doing, when rap wasat its highest level, that's why
it took over.
It was something that was unfathomable.
No one could do it the sameway no one could.
You can't copy, you can'tduplicate it.

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You can't.
That's why pop music is Popmusic because they couldn't do R
B.
So they were like, well, we'regonna do this music.
Right.
It's closed.
But we did.
We just don't quite have it right.
The Swedish, to their credit,the Swedish got really close business.
You know what I'm saying?
So the Swedish got real close.
But again, those are things.

(01:02:27):
When we.
When we.
When we hold those things dearand keep those things close and make
sure that those things are usand deeply associated with us.
Us, that changes the narrativeand it changes the dynamic of.
Of this cultural exchange thatwe're already engaged in.
Right, right.
But then.
But then we hold the means ofproduction and.
And I'm.

(01:02:47):
I hammer that home because meand Jason hammer that home when we're
talking about things.
And it's a principle that goesthroughout everything that we do
in life.
Yeah, you said it.
Because culture.
I. I always.
I always said they loved.
I said, in the words of PaulMooney, everybody want to be one.
Nobody want to be one.

(01:03:11):
Right, Right, right, right.
I think this is a greatconversation because here we don't
do interviews.
We do conversations.
Precisely.
Amen.
Like, they're just.
That's just what it is.
Brian.
We're gonna take a break.
We're gonna talk about.
Because we're in our spookyseason, right?

(01:03:33):
Yes.
We're going to talk aboutblack vampire films and shows that
you should be watching.
Always black, right?
Always back.
Can you join for that?
Yeah, definitely.
100.
100.
Okay.
Definitely.
Okay.
So we'll be right back withour guest, Brian J. Lamb.

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All right, we are back withour guest, Brian J. Lambert.
What's going on, Brian?
Thank you for doing all thesegreat things.

(01:05:25):
Talking about wingless comics.
Now we are stepping into blackvampire films and shows you need
to be watching.
And there are more than you think.
I'm going to show.
I'm going to show.
I was trying to figure out howI want to do this.
I'm going to show a fewthings, just a few images, and I

(01:05:48):
want each one of you to tellme what you think.
What's the first thing thatcomes to your mind for.
For just these couple of properties.
So we're going to start withour man, Blade.
The O.G.
Yes, sir.
Always be named.
Yeah, he's always going to be.

(01:06:10):
He's always going to be Blade.
It's always going to be one Blade.
There's never going to be another.
And yet how true that is becoming.
Right, right.
That was a joke.
What we thought was a joke.
So.
So yeah, Brian, what's thefirst thing?

(01:06:32):
Don't stink me, y', all, but Ilove the fight scenes, so let me
say that I love the fight scenes.
I did not like Blade two, though.
Oh.
I thought it was convoluted.
Right?
Like it was a cgi, wasn't it?
Right, right.
They.
No, well, the story wise.
They do a lot of things to do nothing.

(01:06:53):
I knew y'.
All.
I knew y' all was gonna betrayme the whole time.
Then why'd you just kill him, bro?
Why do we do all that?
Right?
He said the whole setup, the whole.
The whole plot hole in themiddle of it.
I get that part where it'slike, right.
They trained eight years totake you out and now you gotta work
with them.
And you're right.
Paranoid.
Right?
And then what happened to the.
What happened to the daytime suits?

(01:07:15):
They came out.
They had them in the beginningand then they didn't.
They just didn't use them for nothing.
It's just also.
Okay, last thing, real quick.
I have a huge beef with Bladethree and not for the reason.
Well, because it did suck.
Right?
But Blade three, there's apart at which Dracula gives this
speech talking about howthey're honorable men and blah, blah,
blah, and they gonna have thissword fight while he's holding a

(01:07:37):
baby.
Dangling off of a roof.
How can you.
We are honorable men.
As I'm about to kill thisinnocent baby, I just.
I was like, who wrote this?
You know, somebody's coffeewas spiked.
It's like.
More and more, you realize whyWesley was being where he was on

(01:07:57):
set.
Right?
You're just like, right.
It's not his fault.
It's not.
It's not his fault, but it's.
It's whoever was on thatMichelle Pfeiffer when they wrote
that story.
Right.
Right.
Thank you.
Whoever's in the writers roomtalking about, you know, it'll be
great.
Okay.
Okay.
He's talking about, baby.

(01:08:18):
Is.
Is Brian Pearlman.
Right?
Right.
You had Ron Perlman, whichcould have been a great person to
have as a vampire.
I still say, like this.
You had Donnie Yen as theIceman, and.
And you wasted nothing with him.
Not a thing.
Oh, my God.
I just knew watching that intheaters and telling my wife this

(01:08:41):
Donnie in.
Oh, we about to have a black.
Wait, he ain't do nothing.
Nope.
You don't even see.
Right.
I thought he was gonna be theclimactic battle scene.
I was like, when they do somekung fu, this is gonna be the Donnie
Yen show.
I was.
I was ready.
And then.
Cause y' all don't make me mad.
I'm go watch it.
Huge disappointment.
Huge disrespect.

(01:09:03):
Yo, if you haven't watchedDragon, Tiger Gate, go check that
one out though, too.
That's a good one.
Tanya is fire in Dragon?
Yes.
So, Spartan, what's yourthoughts on Blade just showing that
image?
What's the voice of thingsthat come to mind?
Right.
Have you lost your goddamn mind?

(01:09:25):
That was.
I.
Like, that didn't look likethat was in the script, now, did
it?
It was like, I. I still say itlike this every time I get to that
part.
It's like.
Like you said, Like.
Like you said Fury.
I think that was AD Lived, andI think a stuntman just got it wrong.
Like, oh, crap, this wassupposed to be blanks.
Oh, crap.
Oh, crap, this is supposed to be.

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And Wesley kind of brokecharacter for a second.
He went from brooding to just said.
No, keep that in the film.
That was.
That was.
That was gorgeous.
That was perfect.
Keep it what?
Yeah, Hurt.
This best ain't for show.
But.
No, no, that's what.
Let's come to play.
I mean, outside of.

(01:10:05):
Outside of.
Again, we.
We know the.
We know the impact.
And what led to the beginningof the MCU was basically because
this is, of course, the firstever you could Argue all you want
to.
I know we won't this.
I know we won this group, butthey showed a successful superhero
movie that you can do.

(01:10:26):
Marvel's out there and said,oh, we're just gonna call it Marvel
Knights, because if it bombs,we could just sit there and say,
y'.
All.
Y' all are the.
Y', all, the redheadedstepchild of the group.
But no, outside that.
I mean, it set a differenttone for a story.
It wasn't the typical vampirebrooding, I want to suck your blood
and damsel in distress and allthat mess.
Although there were someelements in it.

(01:10:47):
But it was really.
It was really.
I'm not gonna lie, it wasreally speaking us as black folks
because we wanted a blacksuperhero look.
It set the standard.
Oh, indeed.
Definitely set the standard.
Indeed.
Maybe what's the first thingto come to mind when you see Blake.

(01:11:09):
Legacy?
Because when Blaze, thatshould be the fourth film.
Right.
When Blade came out in thetheaters, this.
And I.
And I went and saw it in thetheaters with.
With my dad.
And this was one of thosemovies that.
It brought all of us out.
And I'm gonna tell you what's funny.

(01:11:30):
In the theater, black folk, weknow when something's good because
you'll hear us.
Who also know when something shitty.
You'll hear us.
Yeah, it's like the apart.
It's like Showtime at the Apollo.
Yeah.
If it's like, what the.
That didn't just jump all theway over there.
Yo, it was.
But what's so funny is afterleaving the theater, the energy people

(01:11:51):
were still talking, and we'restill chatting about it.
Yo, Wesley looked dope.
I mean, he wasn't playing around.
It was.
It wasn't a disrespect to the character.
And those of us who love thecomics know how they wrote Blade
and how they made him seemlike a second string character.
He didn't feel second stringin that movie.
He was up front.

(01:12:11):
He was up front.
Especially.
Especially when you get a doseof blood and you suplex somebody
and you come up with the woosh.
At that.
Right, right.

(01:12:34):
I felt bad for the vampire Loki.
Like.
That was still my.
That was still my favorite.
How you gonna look somebodydead in the eye while you hold him?
Like, right, Just drop the manat this point, he can't fight back.
What we doing?
This is what we do.
Okay, that, that, and that andmultiple kick in the ribs until you

(01:12:55):
kick him across the room.
And I'm like, yo.
Oh, damn.
But you talk about setting thestage, though, Rev.
The first 10.
The first 20 minutes.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean.
Yeah.
How many movies could sitthere and say that the first 20 minutes
is probably the hardest toever duplicate another movie?
Yeah.
To introduce a Marvel character.

(01:13:16):
The most relevant.
Val says.
Yep.
Blade Legacy.
Come now.
October 31, 2027.
I am down for it.
Let's go.
I would like to have a Bladelegacy, but we're gonna have a GTA
6 first.
When we have a Blade movie atthis point.
Right.
And if we do make sure that wehave the child of Whistler taking

(01:13:39):
up the mantle as being that,you know, being that back that dude,
it's like, come on.
Instead, it'd be like hisdaughter or maybe something like
that.
I think that would be fire ifthey did something like that.
Yeah.
It would be glorious.
It would be.
Here's another film I wanteverybody's opinion on.
Queen of the Damn.

(01:13:59):
Oh.
Oh.
God rest us all.
That woman, we lost her waytoo soon during filming.
No doubt.
Right?
I, I her best.
I would say that was probably her.
That was probably the what, ifnot her best acting role above Romeo
mustache.
Yeah.
I was just about to say, howdare you disrespect Romeo Must Die.

(01:14:21):
I won't not.
Here's the way.
Now, I will say this.
This.
I will never disrespect theJet Li movie because in my mind,
that man.
Never made a bad movie.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Right.
But if we're saying.
But if we're saying from thelate Aaliyah, she killed the role.
She killed the role of theQueen of the Vampires.
Because the first time it cameout, everybody was like, aaliyah,

(01:14:42):
right?
You had a lot of people goingat R B.
Singer is going to take onthis role to where?
And everybody's like, well,has she ever done acting?
I mean, you heard all thenapkins out there.
She's only done singing.
She's done dancing.
This is a whole different area.
The movie came out and shut everybody.

(01:15:04):
She nailed it.
Literally a case of do nottalk about what someone can't do
because you haven't seen itwhen you realize they could do it.
You just haven't seen it.
Between her and.
And from the last series,Sonalathon, I would be a vampire
so damn quick.

(01:15:25):
Like, there's no, hey, Brian,did you get turned, bro?
Don't even ask me that.
You know.
You give them that.
You give him that look like,come on now.
Yeah, yeah, right.
Here.
Just go ahead and bite me.
Why she looked like Lathan, man.
Why she look like Snyder?
Yo, what up, shorty.

(01:15:47):
I am not ashamed to say, whenI seen that Eric Brooks mother was
annihilating, and I'm like.
Like I said, I'd have beenturned hella quick.
I understand.
All I gotta say is, betweenher and Bianca Lawson.
Yeah, right.

(01:16:10):
I understand.
Now, like, you're just like,I. I would.
I would get paused at that.
At that point, I would get paused.
I mean, I'll be a night person.
I'll live with that.
I mean, what has the sunreally done for me lately?
Right?
Right.
Yo, come on now.
Right?
We get mad.
Why is it bright?

(01:16:30):
This is one of the things,like, so, right?
So blaze mama turf.
I understand, bro.
I understand.
I understand.
Right, right.
That's not one of the ones you question.
You don't look at him like,how dare you?
You're like, well, bro, well,I would try to dap you up, but I
can't let you in.
So, I mean, look, it's thatslow nod, like, yeah, I mean, I.

(01:16:51):
I get you, but.
That's Rumor Brothers.
Everybody got stinks.
I'm like, he got turned.
Who turned him?
She did.
Well, you know.
So bad.
Right?
How much garlic do we need?
I'm like.
You'd be sitting there.
You almost sitting therethinking about it.
The rationalization kicks in.

(01:17:11):
Like, is really.
Is really drinking.
Is that.
I mean, I can give up meat.
You can still eat meat, right?
I mean, y' all good on me.
I mean, y'.
All.
Y' all ain't vegans, right?
That's the only thing I'mworried about.
Right, Right.
Like Brussels sprouts.
No way.
Here's another one.

(01:17:34):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, man.
I will watch this every timeit's on.
Every single time.
I don't care.
Bad wigs and all.
I.
What sold that movie for mewas the fact that 1.
This was at Eddie Murphy'sheight of his career.

(01:17:55):
2.
They said Angela Bassett, andI said, I sold.
I'm like.
For a man.
And this was a.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Vampire in Brooklyn was thefirst movie that Eddie had multiple
roles, right?
Yeah.
No, no, because he had donethat in coming to America.

(01:18:15):
Okay, So I got that back.
Okay, I got that.
Back to America was the first one.
No, but the reason why I bringthat up is because that, to me, again,
a different vampire movie.
But you saw.
You really saw a different.
It's not horror.
It's a.
It's horror, but it's funny.
But it's not cheesy.
Like, it wasn't as cheesy as.

(01:18:36):
Yes, it's good.
Yeah.
And what he did.
Evil assail the.
Entire thing to the entire church.
It like looks.
And they.
And they all agreed.
That's the sad part.
It's like, you know what?
Evil ain't so bad.
But.
But that.
That to me, outside of.

(01:18:57):
Outside the story.
Then Khadeem Hardison, whichagain, I completely forgot he was
in the movie until the very end.
But the level of.
There's no other way to say this.
The level of blackness in thatmovie, it was unparalleled.
Yeah, right.
He didn't have to be a poorvampire in order to do it.

(01:19:18):
Right.
His.
His origin was Dracula's origin.
Like, yeah.
Coming on the ship, the whole deal.
I love.
Yep.
Yeah.
Just coming from the.
Just from coming from theCaribbean Islands.
Just I'm like, do it again.
That's all I'm saying.
Do it again.

(01:19:38):
Right, but that.
But that just goes to showyou, that's how well you can write
a story where you don't haveto give it a stereotype.
You don't have to nerf us.
I mean, in the words.
In the words of the Reverend,you don't gotta nervous.
You can literally give us the same.
You can give us the same levelof attention to where, like you said,
a fluent vampire, very old inage, but he ate poor.

(01:20:01):
He's well dressed, he's wellspoken, he's charming.
At the same time, the storycan write and the story writes itself
around him.
Exactly, exactly.
Navy.
Classic.
Straight up classic.
That.
Honestly, that is one of thefew movies that the minute you sit

(01:20:26):
down and start watching it,you don't get up, you don't pause
it, you don't do any of that.
And.
And that speaks a lot for whatthe movie has done, really.
Eddie's brolin there and withLady Angela in there.
I mean, it was incredible.
It was fun.
It's a fun movie.
Genuinely.
It didn't get the accolades Ifelt like it deserved because once

(01:20:48):
again, everybody in the worldhas got to be critical.
It's amazing when you don't do.
You ain't a part of.
And you won't have.
But you want to be the mostcritical person in the world for
no reason, but you don'tcontribute to it.
It.
Shut up.
Say it again.
Right.
I'm just saying, don't forgetyour boy John Witherspoon acting

(01:21:08):
a fool in there too, man.
Great.
It's them being at theshipping dock and the cops come up
with the German shepherd andMax Maximilian is like.

(01:21:31):
He Just kind of waved his handand a crowd of people, and they literally
watch a German shepherd launchin a buffer smoke and landing, like.
And nobody's.
Nobody's questioning anything.
Nobody's saying a word.
They're looking around like,what just happened?
But, like, nobody seems to beout of sorts at all.

(01:21:51):
No, not a flinch.
It's not a flinch.
Evil is good.
Thanks, Safari.
That's gonna be unstuck in myhead, and I'll be reciting that whole
thing.
Eva is good.
Eva is good.
Here is one that I don't thinka lot of people know about.

(01:22:17):
Black's Night.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Oh, my gosh.
That is an undiscovered, super underrated.
Yes.
I'm so glad I'm amongst peoplewho have watched this.
This is so awesome.
Undiscovered.
My goodness.
Right?
The minute I heard vampires,black slayers, and Keith David, I

(01:22:41):
said, oh, this is.
Bro.
This is gonna be interesting.
Right?
Mr. Silver throw himself, right?
New Orleans.
I'm sorry.
Every time he talked, I kepthearing the Shadow man from the Princess
and the Frog.
I ain't gonna lie.
New Orleans.
And then they.
And even going down to thepoint where he.
Where he's.
Where Keith David's characteris telling the story of.

(01:23:02):
Oh, yeah, we can walk duringthe daylight because of the melanin
in our skin.
Right?
I'm like, oh, man.
And then after all that, thatlast scene, I ain't gonna lie.
Like, I was in it.
And then that last thing happened.
I was like, what the.
Oh, God damn it.
Yeah.

(01:23:23):
This brings you right back.
It's like, oh, y'.
All.
Forget y'.
All.
Y' all think y' all gettinghappy ended.
Right, right, right, right.
Underrated.
Yeah.
I think it's still on Amazonright now.
Yes, it is.
For free, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, Amazon needs Amazon.

(01:23:43):
Would love to welcome us backthe same way Target would.
That's a whole other story.
Right, Right.
Y' all still watching 2B?
You need to be smacked.
That's all I got.
Kind of say, for real.
Oh, man.
They lure you in with some classics.
That's for sure.
They got the cartoons and,too, man.
I'll go to YouTube firstbefore I.
Go to T. They lure you in withclassics you like.

(01:24:07):
Oh, sucked.
Oh, y.
Right, right.
Check out Internet Archive, though.
Internet Archive.
You can get most of that stuffand downloaded, because I got a ton
of them now.
Oh, yeah.
That's how.
That's how I found my Samurai.
Samurai Troopers, man.
Right.
Same.
I get a block of Toonami forfour hours.

(01:24:29):
And all I gotta do is just sitthere and just watch four hours in
a video.
So here's.
I know I don't hear peopletalk about Jamie Foxx and Day Shift.
Underrated.
Yeah.
I like Day Shift so much, butI think that they screwed up on the
lore aspect.

(01:24:49):
Like this.
No, sorry.
The.
Like the last third.
Right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Two thirds of the movie were,like, good.
And then you get to that lastthird where it's like this crazy
Machiavellian plot that comesout of nowhere that's about real
estate with the white chick.
And I was like.
Is it.
I'm like, is this the plotfrom the original Superman?
What is going on?

(01:25:11):
It's when you have.
It's when you have.
Folks, again with Day Shift,how it started.
Awesome.
You again.
You're telling a differentvampire story.
It's like you.
You felt like you need to adda little extra at the end.
You didn't need to add extraat the end.
Just stick with.
Just stick with what broughtus to the dance.
That was.
Right, right?
Can we talk about characterwas dope.

(01:25:32):
Jamie's character, how theywas throwing them vampires against
the wall and all themcontortionists and all that.
Yeah.
And even the lore of, like,hey, we got slayers and we got watchers
and we got zombies.
We got all this stuff happening.
You had a Men in Black style conglomerate.
Yeah.

(01:25:52):
This is your job.
Yeah.
Job.
You get paid by snatching out teeth.
This is like, you're a body hunter.
The only gripe I had is, whydid y' all name him Budget Jablonski?
Why did you name a black manBud Jablonski, bruh?

(01:26:14):
You mean to tell me y' alldidn't have enough time in that writer's
room to come up with a bettername than Bud Jablonski?
Let's be honest.
There.
There was nobody in thewriters room.
Oh, you already know this.
You know we're gonna be JamieKing again.

(01:26:35):
Who say.
Who auditioned for the role?
Jamie Foxx, but thecharacter's name is Bud Jablonski.
How are we gonna fix that?
I mean, you could give himanything else, but I'm like, dang.
Even Black Dynamite hadAfrocentric names.
God dang.
Right, Right.
Oh, my God.
There is another one.

(01:26:57):
Vampire.
There's vampires in the Bronx, yo.
That was good, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's.
That's another one.
Did not say that one.
Yeah, that's.
That's another.
I want to say is that one.
I want to say.
That's Is that Prime?
That's Netflix.
Okay.
Netflix.
Yeah, yeah, that one was good.
That was.
That was like Boonies meetsmeets fresh meets Vampires.

(01:27:19):
Yeah, yeah.
It had the our elements to it,you know.
Oh, wow.
Here's another one.
And she's not even in it long.
And it's an older one.
She's not even in it long.
Grace Jones.
Yes.
Oh, my gosh, I remember that.
It took me a while.
Holy crap.
Yo, I forgot.
I forgot.

(01:27:39):
She played a vampire andiconic with him.
I totally forgot about vamp.
I told y'.
All.
Like, we.
It's like we've been aroundall this time.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's one of them.
Maybe name a vampire of blackparent vampire film that kind of

(01:28:03):
stands out for you.
I said before and I say it again.
Blackula, 1973.
Yeah.
That's the standard one.
That movie did not.

(01:28:24):
It wasn't cheesy.
He wasn't made to be a comical character.
He was legit, of royal bloodand happened to come over here on
a mission.
And I told.
I'm telling y'.
All, that was.
Yeah, you, you.
It was the 70s.
Yeah.
You had the stuff that wouldnow make most people cringe, but
it was part of the story andhe was taken seriously as a character.

(01:28:46):
Right.
Loved it.
I, I, again, one of thosemovies as a kid that I could watch
over.
It's like, okay, I see me inthat character.
I see me in a horror character.
Nothing against anything elsehorror wise, but when was the last
time we actually had a blackhorror character that was respected?

(01:29:08):
There you go.
I'll wait.
You'll be a while.
So, yeah.
Do we have Candyman now?
I feel like Candyman is upthere now.
Yes.
As a matter of fact, he's theone that's just like, no, we know
why he's doing what he's doing.
So we don't mess with him.

(01:29:29):
True.
Candyman was only old Candymanwas only scary if you mess with him.
Yeah.
Right.
Outside of that.
Right.
What we learned from the firstmovie, don't go.
And don't go saying his namethree times.
Don't go.
Don't go messing this man.
He won't mess with you.
Don't summon him.
You ain't got no issues.

(01:29:49):
Right.
Oh, that's just such and such.
We don't.
We don't mess with.
It's like that one, cuz whenthey come to the cookout.
Yeah.
We don't mess with him.
It's like.
It's like seeing a Ouija boardA Ouija board at a party.
Let's go talk to the dead.
Let's not.
No.
How about now?
I'm out, right?
Right.
It's like going camping in themiddle of the woods.
No, we have.

(01:30:09):
Have civilization.
Why do I need to go out and gothe woods?
What am I proving?
No.
Brian, what's a black vampireor show, film or character that kind
of stands out for you?
I mean, I'm taking the easyway, but I loved it so much and I
watched it so many times thatI gotta say sinners, man.

(01:30:31):
Yes, sir.
Just yes, sir.
The way it treated every pieceof itself, right?
In terms of how it treated,how it.
How it talked about music, howit talked about religion, Christianity
and other.
How it talked about blackculture, how it talked about vampires,
how it talked.
Just.
Every piece of that movie was outstanding.

(01:30:52):
And I'm gonna say it, and Idon't care.
Haley Stanfield can go on thatlist of, like, if I got turned and
she was in the room, I don'twant nobody looking at me crazy.
Now, I'm not saying I'mrunning after her or nothing, but
what I am saying is if I gotbit, don't look like.
How did you get bit, Brian?
Like, look, bro, come on, man.

(01:31:13):
She was on me and she was slobbering.
What.
What did you think I was.
Was gonna do?
Although.
Although I ain't gonna lie inthe middle of that scene.
Honey, you drooling, right?
It was nasty.
I was like, bro, you didn't.
It's that meme and that womanwho makes that face, like.

(01:31:40):
But you got a point about the.
About centers.
It's just like from.
From the music to the setup to literally.
I mean, you throw humor.
You throw humor in every.
In.
In bits and pieces, but, man,there was so many bits of truth and
story being wove in.
It was.
It was really.
It was really a love letter toLovecraft country.

(01:32:00):
Because Lovecraft, same thing.
They woven a little bit oftruth, but you got humor in action,
things of that nature.
And again, what.
The same way with the shoot,I'm losing words.
It's pretty much telling thestory of how, again, towns in Mississippi,
you had this side, you hadthis side, and going from there.

(01:32:23):
So.
No, I know.
I completely agree.
Centers is one of those moviesthat's just.
I mean, Mr. Coulter, I mean,man, knocked out the park and then
some.
I mean, you could play thatevery Halloween.
It still will have a packed house.
That would be Jamie Lawson andshe played Pearl.
Pearly.
Yeah.
And I also think that how itdealt with.

(01:32:46):
How it dealt with African spirituality.
And again, this is not like.
It's not necessarily anemerging thing, but I think it's
more.
Getting more media attentionnow, how it dealt with that.
And not in a way to say thatit's immediately evil and it's the
bad thing and it's the wrong thing.
Right.
I think that just taking thatand, and giving that the care that
it deserves.
Yeah.
Whether or not you agree,whether or not you believe whatever,

(01:33:08):
that's.
That's not of import.
I think just dealing with itin a different fashion and not automatically
making something that's blacktaboo was.
Was amazing.
Right, Right.
I think that was just.
Agree.
Yeah.
I want to stay here withsinners for a second.
Because if.
If Blackula set the standard,sinners raised the bar.

(01:33:29):
Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
And that's exactly likeBlackula set the standard.
Sinners raise the bar on.
On culture, on music, onmythos, on representation.
It went above and beyond.

(01:33:49):
And when you.
It's literally.
It's one of my favorite horrorfilms to literally watch now because
I'm like, this is so muchbetter for so many reasons.
But it was really.
But it was such a.
It was a.
It was a layered story, but atthe same time, it was a simple story.

(01:34:10):
If you really think about it.
It was layered, but it was simple.
But the same time you had.
You had the music aspect whereit's like, yeah, the blues came from
us.
The blues came the blues.
I mean, from those, from thosesteel pine guitars, which a lot of
people like.
Oh, well, that's the reason why.
Yes, he tells the story.
I mean, it's, it's.
It's.
Again, everybody's like, oh,so it's loosely based.

(01:34:32):
No, it's not loosely based.
Off.
People love using loosely based.
I know they always say that,but I'm like, if you believe the
crossroads story, that's up to you.
He never confirmed it.
Never confirmed it.
Not the crossroads of thecrossroads story.
But the fact that you satthere and you gave an aspect to it
at the same time.

(01:34:53):
Oh, the.
The prison scene is what got me.
Where the Delro Lindo'scharacter was.
They were passing by the chaingang, and he sat there and said,
y' all keep your heads high.
Y' all keep y' all chest high.
Don't let that get you down.
And then the whole, you know,that story he gives.
Which found.
Which we found out later wasad libbed.
Yeah.
Ad lib, yes.
Oh, and I'm like, oh, weacting, acting out here.

(01:35:15):
Give it to me, letting thatnatural talent come out, you're not
trying to keep it juststringent to the script and keep
it strictly to the.
The dialogue.
No, some of the best momentsin movies have not been scripted.
Right.
And most people swear up anddown they weren't scripted.
Scripted.
But at the same time, though,between Delroy Lindo's character

(01:35:37):
and Michael B. Jordan, I'llgive that man credit for.
For literally showing twosides because the way he.
The way he played that role, Iwill give him that.
And also to.
I forgot her name.
That freaking fast.
Damn.
What's.
What is her name?
The leading lady at the time.

(01:35:57):
Because they showed.
You did not show.
Yeah, thank you.
They did not show.
And my apologies, ma'.
Am, I did not mean to forgetyour name because you definitely
were not forgettable in themovie, but you.
You showed a.
A natural full figured womanand let her lead as you should not

(01:36:21):
find as hell.
Yes, she looks good inLovecraft country.
And then they put her in.
In this movie.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
I mean, it was.
And I still mad aboutcornbread because ain't.
Ain't no way there's a reason take.
That long to take a piss.
I'm sorry.
No, I'm sorry.
I'm not.
You.
You in Mississippi.

(01:36:42):
Mississippi.
In the dark in the woods, andyou go, how far away from the building?
You could have went rightaround the corner out of the.
Out of.
Out of Ey shot.
You could have went behind bythe board.
Right.
You didn't have to go deep inno woods for anything.
Grab a bucket and go backinside somewhere, man.
Keep your ass.

(01:37:02):
He's gonna get caught up anyway.
Like, let's be real.
The moment he stepped footoutside, it was a rap.
I was like, you know what?
I was so mad about that.
Like, bro, you the biggestthing out there.
You just because you're thebiggest thing out there just means
you're just a bigger target.
Even Delroy Lindo's character,who was drunk, Trunk was like, he
went, he's been gone too long.

(01:37:26):
This ain't.
I ain't even supposed to bewatching the door right now.
And then all you.
Then you hear one whisper,he's like, I'd have been like, nope.
And I was just like.
I'm sitting there like, I'mlike, dude, you stopped midstream.
You just.
Those kiddies have been like,nope, let's go.

(01:37:47):
What I loved about sinners isthe fact that they kept.
Left the element of horrorwithout focusing on gore.
How many times we've seenmovies, they Use the whole Gore device
because they want to keep yourattention because the story is so
weak, you can't keep anyone,you know, invested.

(01:38:07):
Right.
Nah.
We gonna do this right?
Yeah.
There'll be a little bit ofviolence, somebody, some blood.
It's a little bit of gore.
But that's not what you shouldbe focusing on.
Focus on these characters andhow they got here.
Right.
Why they got here.
And all the lore and thestorytelling and the character development.
That is what made this such abeautiful masterpiece to me also.

(01:38:30):
Yes.
Give me the payoff of killinga bunch of Klansmen at the end.
Every single time.
Three times in the theater.
Three times in theater.
Yo.
Applauded every single time.
I'm right.
Was he not at the ready wherehe sat there?
This man said.

(01:38:50):
This man said.
Don't tell me here's.
I knew that the truck musthave played a major role because
how did the white girl.
Did you bring the truck?
Of course we brought the trunk.
Oh, Lord.
Very soon.
Right, Right.
We don't need the truck.
Let's calm down.
Like, oh, yeah.
Of course he brought the Trump.
Okay.
Yeah.
Barry knew what the Trump waslike, right?

(01:39:13):
I got this.
I appreciate how the movie ended.
I really appreciated how they.
They brought that story to theclothes that it came to.
Because how many times we'veseen movies where there has to be
a cliffhanger.
Oh, what happened to so and so?
And there's no resolution orthe resolution they have is so weak.

(01:39:35):
Nobody wants to revisit this.
Right?
But they said, here is class.
Here is a story that comes toan end beautifully.
We all.
We all clap when the KKK got God.
Right?
We all clap every moment of it.
Every.
And then when the last one hethought he just let me go and he
shot him a bunch of times.

(01:39:57):
Yeah, do that.
But he kept his word.
I mean, hey, Smoke kept his word.
Come back exactly.
Malaika, stop that, man.
Stop it.
Stop it, bro.
That part on that button,that's the first thing I said.
Wrong audience.
These joker still don't knowwhere that button is.
So don't.
No, no, we, we.
I blame Stack for that.

(01:40:18):
Stack was questionable as allget out.
Just like.
That was a very cousin moment.
He was just like, listen, heheard he fight.
But no, but I.
But I will also say this to the.
To the guy again, again.
Remick.

(01:40:38):
There we go.
Couldn't think of his name.
Jack o'.
Connell.
Who played him.
Yes, man.
You literally.
I love the fact that a lot ofpeople are missing where he again.
The realism where again, yousaw, uh, Miles, Kevin's character
was praying at the end and he was.
He was basically reciting themline for line.
He says.
And I love that part where hegoes, yeah, I used to say that too,

(01:41:00):
because those same words weretaught to me when they still give
me comfort when they came forme too.
And I love how a lot of peoplewant to say.
When I was in the movietheaters, watch it.
You heard this collective.
No, they didn't.
I said, yeah, right.
I just, I just said, welcometo your history lesson.
You didn't think you're gonnaget one woman didn't worry.

(01:41:21):
I just, I like I said sittersyou can.
Centers is one of those.
It's.
It's.
It's really one of thosemainstays that are just.
Along with Blackula, alongwith Vampire in Brooklyn, along with
Queen of the Dam.
It's.
I just love the fact that weactually now have another.
Another movie that isliterally for us in a genre where

(01:41:46):
there's not a lot of ourmovies there.
That's what I love about that.
Right.
And it's an undeniable one too.
It's not a B movie.
It's not a.
Where they can say it's anAlso ran like this.
No, no.
It is an epic film.
And there's nothing you cansay otherwise.
That part.
This is literally one of thesefilms where this is very rare for

(01:42:11):
like people who are film goersor into cinema.
This is one of those films.
Sinners is one of those filmswhere you don't want a sequel that
you don't that Beginning,middle, tell this story.
Leave it open ended.
I don't care, but leave it here.
Yeah.

(01:42:31):
You don't have to add.
You can let your mind run, ofcourse, but.
But you don't want.
But what.
And someone trying to stareand say, well, they should write
a sequel.
Where you gonna go?
Because again, we know twopeople survived.
We also know that Smoke andStack had an agreement about their

(01:42:52):
cousin.
Like, look, because we.
Look, I'll be honest.
Stack wasn't supposed to behere and Stack wasn't supposed to
be here unless he sat thereand told Smoke, like, look, I'm not
taking you out.
You will watch him for therest of your days.
Cool.
Right?
What else do you need?
Right?
At the same time, it's like it doesn't.
It's like it doesn't need to.

(01:43:13):
It doesn't need the.
It doesn't need the extra.
Like some movies just need tobe a one shot.
Need to be a One shot and bedone with it.
You don't need.
Because if you go.
If you try to go back and do aSinners too, you kind of crap on
the first one.
Because where do you go.
Because where do you go with asequel like that anyway?
There's not.
There's no room.
It's like saying, hey, youknow, it's like LeBron James going

(01:43:35):
back for another ring, sir.
You've accomplished what yougot to do.
Bow out gracefully.
Sorry about your LeBron fans.
No, no, no, it's true.
This.
This movie just creates thosetypes of conversations that it's
necessary because when you arereally ingrained in the culture,

(01:43:59):
when you're born of theculture and you see things from sharecroppers
and just the stuff.
I'm like, man, it's takingplace in the 1930s, and you're like.
But you see it, you feel it.
That part.
You understand it.
The conversations that's beinghad, the elements that are being

(01:44:21):
shown, the way this thing hasbeen shot, the music element.
I'm like, this dude didn't miss.
I lied to you.
Dang.
Right, Right.
Kill me Cornbread.
Cornbread was gated, though, when.
When he got that dance going.

(01:44:43):
I was trip on the fact just.
And to hear.
And to hear a bluegrass guitarlike that, that's.
There's a hit.
There's a history behind that, too.
I love that.
He.
He did put a spotlight on that.
That type of.
That type of music with thattype of guitar and that sound.
And the fact that our peoplehave such a rich history to that.

(01:45:04):
I again, work.
Tied it together, but I'mtrying to think there's.
There's Ganja and Hess isanother vampire film.
Film.
Yep.
Oh, I've never seen that.
You never heard of that 70s.
That's a 70s horror film.
Black horror film.

(01:45:25):
Black Doctor Gets.
Goes to an island, and theyhave rituals going there in terms
of.
He gets.
He becomes a vampire through a spear.
Yep, Spear.
He was pumped with a spear.
And he become.
He becomes vampiric.
They actually did.
I think it was.
Spike Lee did a remake.

(01:45:47):
I'm trying to.
I cannot think of the name ofit, but Spike Lee did something like
that.
Just.
Just maybe just.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
2014.
Sweet blood Jesus.
Yeah.
I had to think about.
I had to think about that onefor a second.
Yeah, but that's what that is.
There's.
There.
There's quite a few.

(01:46:08):
The latest interview with thevampire television series.
Oh, that guy's name.
What's his face.
Who's the actor that played Lestat?
I know it's.
It's a.
It's a unique name.
I apologize.
I apologize.
I don't want to destroy his name.
Let me see if I can find it,because I know I was just.

(01:46:30):
Oh, wait, Louis Dupont Dulac.
That's who it is.
That's who it is.
So that's the character orcharacter and you know, which I'm
finishing off the first seasonand I'm like, yo, this is good.
But.
But yeah, that was, that waswhen he was in.
Yeah, they're set up in NewOrleans with his.
So that's right around a lotof, A lot of upper class society,

(01:46:55):
him trying to come back.
And, and it.
Yeah, it's.
I was watching that.
I got caught up until I didn't finish.
But.
But again, like you said,it's, It's.
It's different, but at thesame time, you can tell, like, like
we've been saying, a lot ofcare has been taken into each of
these, into each of thesemovies and television shows.
And you can tell because wedon't want to show off, you know,

(01:47:17):
and again, to not speak, topick it back off.
What to pick up with.
Raven said what the Reverendsaid we don't want gore.
There's no need for gore.
Vampires precisely for gore.
And vampire.
Right.
It's more mind seducing thatit is.
Yeah.
Psychological.
Thank you.
So, you know, we don't needthe whole, you know, hey, gets taken

(01:47:39):
off or flaws decapitate somebody.
We.
We don't need that.
I mean, it worked in Castlevania.
That's fine.
But that's an anime.
It's not movie.
But no, it's just like.
Oh, like again, inCastlevania, we had a van.
We had a.
We had a female vampire,which, again, she wasn't overall.
Overall menacing, but if youpushed her.

(01:48:02):
Oh, yeah, you got that point.
But again, it's just.
I'm just saying this as.
It's just the approach they'vetaken to how black vampires in movies
and television and anime, howthey're presented and they're always
presented.
And I love this.
I have yet to still find onewhere I didn't like it.
You can tell that it's writtenwith care because they're presented

(01:48:23):
with style, they're presentwith flair, poise, mannerisms.
At the same time, there's thatunderlying threat of, if you push
me, I will end you.
Oh, yeah.
But sidebar.
I needed more Mr.
Trick from Buffy the Vampire Empire.
Slayer.

(01:48:44):
I'm Just saying.
I mean, I'm like, you know,I'm liking his vibe, but y' all playing
it right now.
Y' all nerfing him a little bit.
But look who the writer was.
Exactly.
To figure it out.
But, like, you played us withKendra, then you turn around with
Mr.
Trick, you know, like, yeah,look, it's.
No worse than Sterling K.Brown and Supernatural, where he

(01:49:06):
was a hunter and he got turned.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
People forget he was in Supernatural.
He was a rival hunter that gotturned and he adapted quite quickly,
actually.
I was gonna say, can we count Bones?
Although because I'm just aBianca Lawson fan.
So can we count Bones?

(01:49:26):
Even though Snoop Dogg'sacting was overly.
Horrible.
Wasn'T he, like a deep.
Was he a.
Was he a vampire?
He was a resurrected.
He was a gangster.
He was a resurrected gangster,but he wasn't.
He wasn't.
It was like a.
A.
More like a demon spirit, buthe wasn't a vampire.
Yeah.
Although he had fangs for no reason.

(01:49:46):
On the same end.
I'll count Bianca Lawson,because she's Bianca Lawson.
So I'm with you.
I just.
I just wanted the technicality.
I just wanted to know.
But I'm with you.
Let's count her.
She is actually a vampirebecause she.
Ain'T aged at all.
Yeah, they said, oh, yeah.
She was like.
It was like, oh, yeah.
She was like 20.
And.

(01:50:10):
Between her.
Angela Bassett and there wasanother one.
Angela Bassett played avampire in the season of America
Horror Story Hotel.
I literally was like, makes sense.
I see it.
It's fine.
No disrespect to the QueenMother, but, ma', am, you have a
regiment.

(01:50:30):
That's another one.
Don't ask me no that's another one.
Don't ask me no questions whenyou see me turn don't ask me no.
Don'T ask me Will Smith doinglike this.
Right?
How could you?
How could you let this happen?
I'm just saying.
Right, right.
But no, but, yeah.
It's just.
It's.

(01:50:51):
If you really think about it,it's just these.
Especially around the horrorside, we are getting a lot more movies,
not just vampire.
I mean, not just, you know,vampire in general, but, I mean,
look at.
Look at us.
Or look at.
Get out.
Or look at.
I haven't seen him yet.
I want to see him.
I don't know if him is morepsychological than anything else,
but it looks like it.

(01:51:12):
Yeah, I'm still.
Yeah.
But you can tell that thehorror aspect is being expanded on,
and I love that it's beingExpanded on.
And it's not just your.
It's not just your A to B.
We summon him.
We knocked this over.
We broke this.
We went to a place supposed togo to.
It's.
It's so different in how eachof these stories are being shown

(01:51:34):
that it.
It's.
It makes you want to go see itjust off the narration alone.
I agree.
I remember when that UStrailer dropped and it had the.
Just the music.
Yeah.
That was the creepiest, youknow, twist on.
I got five on it.
Like, again, I love that we.

(01:51:55):
I love that our horror storiesare being told like.
Like us as well.
Like, it's not like, oh, hey,don't go touch that Ouija board.
And then somebody does.
And then they summon a demon.
Like, because black folksdon't do that.
Right?
So they have to find new waysfor us to be entrapped in these things
that would make sense with ourpersonalities, which I love that
they're taking the time to do that.
Right.
Like, it makes sense, so itmakes for better stories.

(01:52:15):
Yeah.
I want.
I want anybody who's listeningor watching right now.
If you can find it, go backand watch Night of the Demon.
Your boy broke out, right?
This, like, Roger wasn'tnothing to play with.
Like, even if he said, my father's.
They in the haunted house,this brother said, my father's a

(01:52:35):
preacher.
We don't do this.
Roger, Roger, we need to get out.
Roger showed exactly what youshould do in a horror movie.
And you notice that no demoncan outrun him.
My man dove through a plateglass window.
He was climbing over a wallwith his barbed wire.

(01:52:55):
Little white girl was justlike, it hurts.
He was like, I'm leaving.
I don't care.
I'll heal.
I'm leaving now.
Right?
I still, like, I still laughat Roger.
Where you going?
You on your own.
She's like, roger, you ain'tgoing to get me.
He just.

(01:53:18):
That fits.
Wow.
That fits.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
But whoever.
Whoever got door.
Whoever got do or die to sitthere and say, hey, we want to take.
I got five on it.
And we want to put a horrorspin on it.
How did you convince them?
That's right.
I got a better one.
How many times people look atthe clock and it says, 11.
11.
And you stop, man.

(01:53:41):
Look, like I said, we were outof town this weekend.
I seen three logging trucks.
Thank God they were on theopposite side of the free.
And I just shook my.
Every time just shook my head,yo, I'm done.
Final destination made us soFinal destination turned Us into
better drivers.
I'm just saying you won't go,you won't go nowhere near or behind

(01:54:02):
a log truck since that moviecame out.
Right?
Right.
Now, you know what I thoughtabout Death by Temptation.
Only difference is she's moreof a succubus, right?
Yeah.
But still, that was still agood movie.
I think it was another KadenHarson movie actually.
It is.
Yeah.
That was like right during his fame.
During.
That was different.
Different world.
Different world, right?

(01:54:23):
Yeah.
So, Brian J. Lambert, brother,this has been great.
It's been a blast.
It's been fun, man.
I appreciate y' all so much, man.
I really do.
I. I just love being able tocommune with some like minded folks
in general.
But y' all are hilarious, man.
And I just, you know, Iappreciate y' all even just having

(01:54:43):
me on here and talking aboutmy comics and, and comics in general
and, and let me rant my bull,you know what I mean?
I appreciate it.
Look, this is what we do here.
We, we consider people familyfor one.
Thank you for including us andjoining up with Border Station for
Air Force One.
Yes.
Grace, that's gonna befreaking fire.

(01:55:08):
That's gonna be off the chain.
For real.
For real, bro.
We are, we are, we are working.
I can't wait till our next.
We got some things happeningin early.
Do we have a minute to where Ican give a little quick little sneak
peek, please?
So I can't show anything rightnow, but in early 2026 we are going

(01:55:28):
to debut.
Myself and Jason Reeves, we'redebuting a project together.
We are doing a trading card game.
And imagine if you will, aworld where Street Ball meets Pokemon.
Oh, say less.
I'm invested.
So let's go again.
Yeah, so again we're gonnahave that.
We're gonna start putting outsome materials in November.

(01:55:50):
We're gonna release it in, in February.
And then that's gonna lead toeverything else, man.
That's going to lead to allthe stuff that we see with our 2000
release of volume 2, 2026release of volume 2 of Air Force
Ones and some more animated material.
And this time on the next setof animated material is actually
going to be anime, I realize.
And I, I've again, I've hadpeople make the little jokes and

(01:56:11):
stuff.
The animation, the firstanimation we did is not anime inspired,
art wise, art style wise.
But again, that's justsomebody, man.
I really wanted to work withthat animator.
He was dope and he's still dope.
But as we do our next set ofanimation we're already talking to
Spoof Animation and a coupleother studios.
Nice.
And we're going fully into theanime field.

(01:56:32):
And 2026 is gonna be.
It's gonna be something special.
So again, Blur Blurd's EyeView first people to hear about our
new project and our newtrading card game.
Paul, who's got next?
Nice.
And again, like I said, it'sgoing to be Street Ball meets Pokemon.
It's gonna be something likeyou've never seen it.
It's gonna be dope.
I'm invested.

(01:56:53):
Right?
Let's go.
The minute you mentionedPokemon now David's ear said present
and accounted for games.
I'm like, let's go.
Okay, let's go.
Oh man.
Brian, tell everybody wherethey can find you.
You can find us at WinglessComics on everything social.

(01:57:13):
Well, not on Twitter or X orwhatever it's called these days.
You can find us, right?
You can find us on Instagramunder Wingless Comics.
You can find us on Facebook asa Wingless Comics.
Can you?
You can find us on Tick Tockas Wingless Comics.
We are also online on ourwebsite direct@www.wingle.com you

(01:57:34):
can get everything and all ourinformation there.
Again, much more to come.
In 2026.
You're going to see therelease of her number two.
You're going to see Averynumber two.
You're going to See volume twoor Air Force Ones.
You're going to see thetrading card game, who's got next?
And a few more surprises.
We are coming out the gate hotin 2026.
That is a promise.
I'm here for it.

(01:57:55):
I hear holsters being reloadedright now.
Right.
And in February you are gonnasee how.
How right and close to themark you are, sir.
Something special.
I got a couple other special things.
You know what, when thosedrop, please bring them by the ship.
Gladly.
Have you on, please.
Thank you.

(01:58:15):
Definitely, definitely,definitely, definitely.
Gentlemen.
Spartan talk to the people.
Ah yes.
Black underscore.
Spartan615 is I usually canfind me.
Shows are still going on folks.
We are covering everythingcrazy in the world.
Especially when it comes toTaco and his regime.
You know the man the high Castle.

(01:58:35):
The man in high Castlediscovered McDonald's.
How the we got here everyWednesday at 7:30pm of course myself
to Farai Joe.
We do cover the news in theworld of video games, anime, manga,
radio, wrestling, you name itget bit every Friday, 8:30ish shows
can be found where they'reusually found on all aspects of the
Internet.
Still doing the streaming thing.
Still trying to finish Silksong, but you know, being a dad,

(01:58:58):
gotta make sure everybody'staken care of.
So gaming.
The gaming streams will pickback up on Saturday because why?
I have exactly two weeks leftbefore Ninja Gaiden 4 comes out and
that's gonna pretty muchencompass my life.
So I didn't kind of need toget that and try to get one game
knock out the way before I getthe other one.
So again, black underscoreSpartan 615 on Twitch and on YouTube
at the same time.

(01:59:18):
Guys, the rules still do applybecause Khan's still going on.
Respect the cosplayer.
Cosplay is not consent.
Please treat me like human beings.
Number two, wash your ass.
We the.
It's flu season.
Flu season's around the corner.
Clean clothes, please.
Underwear.
I know you're seeing thisclean thing going through cons.
That is not cute.
Because they have to do this.

(01:59:38):
Because.
Because some of y' all reallydon't believe in soap, water, hygiene
or good decisions.
So please wash your ass.
Clean clothes will be always welcome.
And again, the last thing Ihave for myself, as I have for everybody
else in a world that is cruel,that is kind, that is unkind.
Be nice, be kind.
Talk, share and discuss your fandoms.
Don't be a dick and you won'tget jumped.

(02:00:02):
I love how it changes every week.
There it is, baby.
Montel, my guy.
What's going on?
Talking to the people.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys andgirls, Blurs of all ages, good evening,
good morning, good afternoon.
It is I, Navy Montel, yourfrosty bearded blur.
Corn here with the crew, withthis Amazing Creator, Brian, Mr.
Brian Lambert here doing his thing.
Y' all gonna show this man love.

(02:00:22):
Go support him.
He is part of a cornucopia ofculture and creation that cannot
be denied.
Please go show that support.
If you want to know what I'mup to, I'm with this illustrious
crew usually on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
I'm also with Lady Mandalore.
Room full of blurbs.
Every Sunday at 7, we talkabout independent comments.
We bring on the character, the creators.
We have a good time.

(02:00:43):
We just all types of stuff andfun like that myself.
Florida corn combos are back.
I'm getting my kiss my guestslined up.
Please come and show that love.
I'm getting back on my randomInstagram where I'll pop in because
I got something to say.
And now that I am on YouTube,I've been still on YouTube and be
more active.
Y' all in trouble Bible.
Okay?
So come on be a part of the conversation.
And I stream on Sundays.

(02:01:05):
I am currently going back toDiablo 3.
Why?
Because if it ain't broke,don't fix it.
And I'm using a lady barbarianand she is just running roughshod.
We're gonna chat, we're gonna talk.
We're gonna have all the funds.
And I will say this before I.I'm passed on to the illustrious
Captain.
Find your safe space.

(02:01:26):
In a world where chaos isstarting to become the norm, which
it shouldn't be.
Whether it's at home withsomeone close to you, a hobby, a
reading, a book, going andsitting at the park, maybe taking
a drive.
Find your safe space becauseyour mental health is your number
one precious commodity thatyou give up to anyone or anything

(02:01:49):
for any reason.
Find your safe space, please.
We need to keep y' all around.
The Saints are going home.
They don't need to be goinghome younger than 40 or 40 or 30.
Okay.
If you need someone to talkto, find me.
If you need to.
I'll be there.
Same here.

(02:02:11):
You.
If you are.
If you haven't followedBlurred Station on Instagram, please
do.
Because this weekend,Saturday, as a matter of fact, we
have our very first Firesidechat with a voice actor.
The series will be called Unmuted.
You'll have your answers,question or some of your questions
answered.

(02:02:31):
Talking about how to get intothe voice industry, voice acting
industry and things of the stuff.
I believe that will be at 8o', clock, 7 o' clock or 8.
I think it's 8.
8 o'.
Clock.
8 o'.
Clock.
Yes.
So go to the Blur Blurs.
Go to the Blurred StationInstagram page.
Go check it out.
Out Lady Mandalore will be the host.
Yeah, some great stuff goingon also.

(02:02:53):
You can check us out EveryTuesday, Thursday, 8pm Eastern, YouTube,
Twitch, and you can watch pastepisodes of Always Press Record Television
through your Roku and AmazonFire devices.
Mouthful when you have alittle congestion going on.
But that's okay.
I got my ginger and turmerictea is doing this job right now.
Now I'm just stuffy.

(02:03:16):
Everything else is good.
But other than that, thank youto our guest, Brian J. Lambert.
This has been amazing.
These are always fun to talkto, like creatives who are really
doing their thing.
So absolutely.
Please come back.
Come back to when you starttalking about when.
When 2026 ramps up because.

(02:03:36):
Yeah, because.
Because the people got anexclusive, right?
We do exclusive.
I always have one for y'.
All.
Appreciate you stopping through.
Thank you to the crew.
Thank you to everybody in thechats, man.
Everybody's in the chats.

(02:03:56):
Thank you.
Thank you to B who all theremade his donation.
Thank you.
I'll be sure to hit your donation.
Be sure to hit that likesubscribe that notification bell
and YouTube channel.
Be sure if you're watching onTwitch, Twitch, go over there again.
We're not trying to hitmillions, millions of streamers on
Twitch because I, I don't have.
I don't have streaming timeright now.
I don't have time.

(02:04:17):
Facts.
Right, right.
I got.
I got adult stuff to do.
I hate it.
But look at that lottery check clears.
We got.
We gotta do work, man.
I got work.
But tune in next Tuesday.
We will be talking about somemore nerdy stuff.

(02:04:37):
We'll be doing some morehorror stuff.
We'll probably be talkingabout some other.
I'm thinking about doing finalGirls again.
We got time.
I gotta go back to the finalfinal girls round two.
So be sure to come back nextTuesday, 8pm Eastern.
We will be here.
Remember to educate yourselfand others, entertain yourself and

(02:05:00):
others, and most of all,encourage yourself and others.
I'm Chris Fury with our guest,Brian J. Lambert over on this side.
Yeah, sir.
My guys, Baby Montel and Black Spartan.
Check us out on all the socials.
Show your support.
And until then, we will seeyou guys next time.

(02:05:21):
We're out.
Bye.
Snake, are you okay?
Snake.
Snake.

(02:05:47):
Sam.

(02:06:13):
Wa.

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