Unveiling Sinners: A Deep Dive into Ryan Coogler's Latest Masterpiece

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I View we are talking about alot of stuff today.
There's going to be spoilers.
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We're not going to spoil everything.
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to be talked about.
And what am I talking about?
Well, we'll be talking aboutStar wars in the building, Star Wars
Japan celebration that justtook place last week.
We'll also be talking aboutthat the second episode of the.
The second season of Last ofUs and the ending that we've seen
coming just didn't know how totake it.

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Regardless.
And also we will be talkingabout the hit movie by an amazing
team led by an amazingdirector, Ryan Coogler, and that
movie is Sinners.
We will be crushing it andtalking about it.
Our theories, our takeaways,the praising of that entire cast
and crew.

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Stay tuned.
But without further ado, let'sget this started.
Lanny, what's going on?
Lanny, Hi.
Well, well, my second commandhasn't made it in yet.
She's getting her libations.
What's up, man?
What's going on?

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So I didn't get a chance tocatch you and your husband's review
of Sinners, but I.
Because I've been a busy man today.
But I'm sure it was a glowingreview because, my God, listen, we're
in April.
We've already seen one of thetop five movies of the year.
Yes.
Okay.

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And I don't care what comesout afterwards.
And there are some things thatcould be very well liked, but this,
I, I just can't wait to talkabout it.
I, I just.
I just can't wait to talkabout it because I felt so good and
not just being a horror fan,even though I, I think the only critique
I would have said is just, Iwish it was a little bit more horror.

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I think, I think, I think forthis film and before, we're not going
to talk too much about it.
Because we're going to save itfor later.
But I, I want to say that Ithink this is a whole new genre.
I think this is a whole newgenre of, of horror that we're getting.
And it's from us, it's createdfrom us, by us.
So just.

(06:57):
I felt so happy walking with Nugget.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think when George.
Everyone talk about that onescene, which.
Is cool, but there were somelines, there were some moments we
gonna get into it, but like,but like I said, I think we're in
a whole different realm of, ofanother genre of horror.
Because if Jordan Peele cangive us like a psychological horror

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film, Ryan Coogler is givingus something different too, so.
But we'll be tuning in forthat later show.
Quo is in the building.
What's going on?
How you guys doing?
Are you crying?
You're crying?
Crying about what?
I don't know.

(07:38):
I just love the way when yousay that, that's all.
Oh, yeah.
I, I.
Oh yeah.
I do be saying I'm crying a lot.
Yeah, it's.
It's really the New Yorker'sfault, like, because it's not something
I grew up saying.
I went to college and ended up.
I had a friend from everyborough in New York.
And I was like, huh?

(07:59):
And then my friend said he wasmy Morehouse brother.
He's like, watch this.
He's like, they were justmaking funnies.
And I kept saying, I'm weak.
He said, she gonna say I'mweak again.
I'm weak.
I hadn't.
And I was like, I'm around youway too much.
Because I never would say I'mweak until I was around them.

(08:19):
Same with.
I'm crying, like, yeah.
Because you know what?
I got.
I'm mad at that.
From Southerners.
Oh, really?
I went to college.
I have.
I remember one of my bestfriends came up and she's like, I'm
mad that.
I'm like, what are you mad at?
I didn't.
How weak.
And once I went down south, Isaid, oh, everything is.

(08:40):
I'm mad at that.
Okay.
I'm mad at that.
I said that for quite a while.
I didn't know where it came from.
It'd be like that.
And I'm like, where are yougetting that from?
Because that's not a New York.
That's not even a northern one.
See, I don't know where I gotfinna from.

(09:02):
I feel like I've been sayingmaybe finna forever.
Like, that might have beensomething that I've said.
Forever.
Because I don't know.
I.
I just say whatever when I'mspeaking, like, casually.
I'm just gonna do all the comments.

(09:24):
The gang is already here.
The gang is here.
It's funny here in show quotes.
They like that.
Boobies.
I'm here.
Oh, man.
Our shift, right?
Spartan is in the building.
What's going on?
Black Spartan.
I'm just.

(09:44):
I'm gonna leave that alonebetween boobies and I'm weak from
show.
Yo.
Where's the.
Where's the click?
Where's the keyboard?
Give it time.
I heard you.
It's here somewhere.
We're not.
We're not whole until we hearclick clacks for no reason outside
of show.
Hey.
Oh, man.
Come on.

(10:04):
Yeah, exactly.
We coming on.
We talking about the jukejoint tonight.
Yes.
We were free for.
For several hours.
It was about as close toWakanda feeling as y'all can get.
And I'm jealous of all that.
Wakanda feeling and get outfeeling of like.
Yeah, yeah.

(10:25):
When I tell you.
I was like.
I said, we'll get into it later.
There was lines that were.
There were some lines howtempted I.
Was to go to the grand line.
Because every time in ourchat, it's great.
I'm like, I hate all of you.
He doesn't really hate us.
It's just.
Did you see that timing?
No, he has it.

(10:46):
Because, you know, he had.
He had.
He had to take the.
The wife.
He had to do with the wife.
The neurovirus ran through my family.
Like, damn.
Like Cat Williams goingthrough most comedians.
I'll put it that way.
Like, okay.
It was.
It wasn't fun.
It wasn't fun.
It was actually quite terrible.

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Just that part.
That part.
The.
No bootleg embargoes and foot.
Yeah.
For this.
This.
This is one.
This is one that you're justlike, nah, I got that.
Nah, bro.
Nah.
This is the one time.
This is the one time.
The DVD guy was nowhere to be found.
It's like, dang, this is.
This is your peak season.
He sat there and said, no,we're standing down on this one.

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Everybody, twice.
Yeah, yeah.
Boots on the ground, safarisin the building.
What's going on?
Too far.
I'm gonna give you so muchcredit because you've seen it before.
All of us and you.
You held together.
And that was an amazing.
He was.
He was practically nagging.

(11:50):
I need to talk about sitting there.
For, like, three days, like,well, I can't say to y'all.
Or the Internet, bro.
You held it together.
Hats on.
The way, I do want.
To go pay money for an actualticket, though.
Since I got in free, I'm like,let me chip in.
And since we have.
We got one of the 1070millimeter theaters, and apparently

(12:11):
now you get a.
You get a film reel.
Now if you go.
I think that that's all themore reason.
Wait, what you talking about?
Yeah, yeah, on the 23rd, ifyou have a theater that has.
That will show it in 70millimeter, you get a film.
Yeah, you get a piece.
You get.
You get a piece of the.

(12:31):
That is going to show.
It's only like, you only.
You have to go to the.
One of the 70 millimetertheaters only, though, because that's.
Yeah, I think that's.
Yeah, there's only.
There's not that many in theUnited States, so there's really
only a few.
So almost every.
Almost every state has one.
I know in Tennessee we onlyhave three, and they're all in Nashville,

(12:53):
so I know we only have threeinside of our state.
I can only imagine everywhereelse outside of major cities like
New York, Atlanta and otherspots, they may have more.
But yeah, some people.
I don't think every state hasone because they.
People been saying they had tocross state lines to go see.
See some.
Oh, I've crossed these.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
To see centers in the 70millimeter format.
Oh.
And okay, I was about to say,like, I thought it opened wide.
Yeah, yeah, it definitely did.
Yeah.
But it's definitely if.
Especially if you're a cinephile.
Yeah.
I have a.
I have a cell from black.
The first black.
From first Black Panther thatit was.

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It's posted.
I got it in a frame and everything.
Like, you got to be at.
You have to have a really.
A really be a big cinephile towant something.
And this is.
It's an unprecedented movie.
It really is.
It's.
It's an original piece.
You.
You want to own this in everyform, format possible Just.
Just to own it.

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But yes, 7 millimeter film.
It's almost like the Hateful Eight.
Bama, I think an eighth latewas 70 millimeter film.
It was.
It was, yeah.
Hateful.
Hateful Eight and Oppenheimerwere like the last two big ones.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's definitely oneof those.
It's one for the books.
Definitely one for the books.
Outside of.
Of that.

(14:17):
Of blowing that barn door wideopen, how's everybody's week been?
It's okay.
This week or just a week.
If.
I could think of the words Isaid the last podcast and you asked

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me that and put that on theaudio track.
That would sum up the week.
And it's only Tuesday.
Oh, no.
Oh, my goodness.
I actually can't remember much.
There's not a 70 millimeterone near me.
The closest one is AMC Lincoln Square.

(15:03):
Dang.
I still.
I still gotta look minebecause I said I would try to go
again tomorrow.
So no Ohio Honor.
Arizona, California, Florida, Indiana.
Okay, so there it is.
We have an imax, but they're.

(15:23):
They.
They play the two.
I know one is in Crocker Park.
Not Cracker Crocker.
Is that AMC or is that Regal?
I think that's what they'vebeen saying.
Like, just even the imax,like, there's IMAX and.
Which people have been calling it.
Oh, well, that's fake IMAX.
And it's like.
It's not fake IMAX.

(15:44):
It's just not the 70millimeter IMAX that he's.
That you're looking for, whichis why there's not that many.
But there's.
There IMAX is everywhere.
It's just that the 70millimeter one.
Is the harder to get.
Yes.
That's the one that theyspecifically used.
And they recommend, you know,if you can go see it.

(16:06):
Go see it on that.
I mean, because, let's be honest.
Have you seen the machine?
That's a day.
Have you seen the machine?
That thing has to run through.
I was like, you might as well.
You might as well use that forcotton candy and just come out and
just make bank.
I want that motion.
Go ahead, Kira, with the promotion.
I did not see that cup in my theater.

(16:27):
It's in ours.
Yes.
You didn't go to the imax.
I'm kind of.
Look at her now.
She ain't here with her arrogance.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Before we get to the otherstuff, here's the thing.
This is the.
You know, the whole rage as oflate has been popcorn buckets and
cups.
Yeah, I.

(16:48):
Even though they have it, theydidn't really push it.
No, they did not.
They sure didn't.
I didn't care neither, becauseI'm like, I'm here for this film.
They didn't have a bucket.
And they really didn't havetoo many things.
Like.
And I think even for, like,that cup.
And they had those cups andthen the popcorn.

(17:11):
The.
Just the regular popcornbuckets, but not really.
Yeah, that so.
But they.
They weren't at every single theater.
So it's like.
I think it was just kind oflike you got lucky.
Or not, because they werestill selling the Captain America
buckets at my theater that Iwent to.
They didn't have nothing else.
So.
Yeah, I wonder if that wasdone on purpose, though, because,

(17:33):
I mean, the movie was gonna begreat on its own.
I didn't think it really.
Advertisement so I guess wecan go ahead and get into it.
Why not?
Because it is so much tocover, so why not?
So let's get this.

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First, I want to shout outcomics at the corner.
If you are in the Clevelandarea, you can come out May 3, which
is free comic book day weekend.
It'll be from 1 to 3, andit'll be at the Rice branch, Cleveland
library on Shaker inCleveland, Ohio.
Come on out.
Have some fun.
They give out free comics.
Amazing team that I had achance to meet at the Kicks and comics

(18:23):
event that Candy B throughthis past weekend.
Also, just.
They support literacyfunctions and everything else under
the sun, so they have somegreat stuff.
So if you're in the area ofCleveland, free comic book day weekend,
come out to the Rice Branch,Cleveland Library, 11535 Shakers

(18:46):
Blvd.
In Cleveland, Ohio, from 1 to 3.
There's plenty of time to getall these free comics.
So shout out to that team.
They did amazing work.
Also, I ran into a guy by thename of Paris.
Hold on.

(19:06):
Hi, Bama.
He does some very interesting artwork.
And he'll take.
He takes.
He takes, like, destroyedcomics or magazines or both.
And.
Wait, hold on.
Mayhem's in the building.
What's going on, man?

(19:32):
He takes old comics and.
And magazines and he tearsthem up and he makes art out of them.
So I bought two pieces off of them.
This is MF Doom.
This is one of my favorite pieces.
But here's the beautiful thingabout this piece right here.
You see the mask and himholding the mic.
But there's another way youcan post it.
And it's this way where yousee the mask and him holding the

(19:53):
mic.
Nice.
So it can go either way.
You can post it either way.
You still get the mask.
The other piece.
And I had to have this.
I said, I got too much BlackPanther on the wall, so I got another
goddess, you know?
So he takes a lot of thesepieces and he just.

(20:14):
It's.
It's.
He said this is.
He does it with quite a few of them.
The MF Doom 1 is like one of his.
The ones where he startedsuper imposing different angles on
it.
So he started playing with it.
Really dope pieces came withthe frames.
20 bucks.
Not bad.
So, you know, support, supportthe Blur creatives out there.

(20:35):
So, you know, shout out to Paris.
He.
I don't believe he has his IGup running yet, but I'll.
I'll reach out to him and find out.
But yeah, it.
It was.
It was a minute.
It was a moment at Kicks and comics.
Shout out to Ken B.
Crazy great.
Also has a piece later on inthe show that we'll be premiering.

(20:55):
So a lot of fun.
In other news, Star Wars Japanhappened last week and Thursday,
as matter of fact, started Thursday.
It started Thursday and theyhad quite a bit of news.
Drops Lady Mandalore.

(21:17):
I know you're gonna help mewith this one.
So this was.
They have some.
Really.
That's number one.
They had some great art pieces.
This Vader is one of them.
One of the announcements thatthey had was they were going to do
a movie called Star WarsStarfighter, which take place after
the last Jedi.

(21:38):
Rise of Skywalker takes five years.
It takes place five yearsafter the rise of Skywalker, directed
by Deadpool and Wolverinedirector Sean Levy.
The.
Starring Ryan Gosling, whichat first, Lady Mandalore was like,
I am not a fan of Ryan Gosling.
And then she found out SeanLevy was attached and her tune changed
just a little bit.

(21:58):
Just a little bit.
All right.
It's all right.
Trepidatious about Ryan.
Not that I dislike.
Not trepidatious.
We use big words over here.
Mr.
Milchick in the building.
At first I was for lower, andthen I just became simply trepidatious.

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So it sounds like it's goingto be a great project.
I think they're what they'relining up over for a lot of their.
A lot of their things isturning out to be quite.
Well, let me see what's goingon in the chat real quick.
Yes, Mal, to answer yourquestion, in honor of the west coast,
there's a little bit of ginand juice in my cup.

(22:42):
That wasn't.
Didn't I say she had to go gether libations together?
Nobody believed me.
I believed you.
100.
It's every time, right?
It's just the gin and juicepart that we have a problem with.
We?
You know, she says, who's we?
I don't know.
Yes.

(23:03):
Yes.
Because I can't have it.
Yes.
I'm a little mad because Ican't have it.
Oh, that's why.
Okay, that's different.
I was about to say that's whywe get the best of Mandalore.
What do you mean, it's over now?
You.
You ain't been in the Chat.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm crying.
So Sam Witwer is back voicingDarth Maul.

(23:25):
They're going to be doing theDarth Maul animated series, Mall
Shadow Lord.
That's gonna be fun.
Edge Lord.
Right.
Stop it.
Why?
If you paid him enough, he'dprobably say much.
Also, they also mentionedanother animated series that has

(23:46):
turned out very well, seasonthree of Visions.
So that's definitely going tobe on a lot of people's list.
Visions was an absolute game changer.
I think they seen the work that.
What Netflix does with love,death and robots.

(24:06):
And this is a great spin to that.
It's the best way to say, let me.
Let me do a Star Wars.
Let me do a Star wars series.
But let me show you oneepisode why you should hire us.
It is.
It is.
It is like.
It is like American's.
America's best, next besttalent in animation.
But the beauty part about itis there's never a bad episode.

(24:27):
What don't come for me, y'all.
I'm just asking a question.
Why do y'all like it?
Why do y'all like that series Visions?
Yes.
Same way we like what if.
Give somebody.
Give somebody a chance towrite a story.
Let's see what they do with it.
Yeah, it's filler.
It's filling episodes.
Between that one and Tales ofthe Jedi.

(24:47):
Was it Tales of the Jedi?
Yeah, they're like feelinggood filler.
Filler episodes.
We've been wanting differentstories, even if they're one shots.
And also different animationbecause we've seen what happened.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean totalk overland.
Go ahead.
That's okay.
I was gonna say, for me, it'snot obsessed with the Skywalker side,

(25:08):
that part.
Like, we're going away.
We're seeing different storiesthat have really nothing to do with
Luke.
Pretty much.
Luke is cool, but there'sother stories we could tell.
You know, I don't mind.
I don't mind Luke or Han oreven a Leia popping up.
I just don't want the episodeor this.
Whatever the project issurrounding that.

(25:30):
It's fine if you give me.
If, like, it's a path cross orsomething I don't need.
I'd be happy with this isanother little Skywalker story.
I'd be happy to see how Chewbacca.
How Chewbacca and Han gottogether with the Kessel Run.
You can turn that into a wholeanime series for 30 minutes.
But that's what we had.
That's what we had.
The solo story.

(25:50):
For.
Yeah, I must say, that wasn'tso long.
Which does not get enoughappreciation because that's not a
bad film.
It's not a bad film.
Just bad timing.
When it came out.
I just said.
Don'T come for me.
I didn't say it was bad.
I just asked specifically.
Carrie's not talking.
She's talking to the crowd.

(26:11):
No, I'm talking to show you.
Because she came from my neck too.
I didn't say it was bad.
Up on the screen.
That was funny.
First of all.
Okay, we didn't hear the keyboard.
It's the first of all.
I don't know.
It's like.

(26:31):
It's just so funny because Idon't know why she.
She act like I'm not doingthis on purpose because.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I know you're doing it.
I'm saying.
I'm not saying I dislike it.
I just.
Here's my.
Definitely.
You preface the thing.
Like, let me.
I need to preface this.

(26:51):
So y'all don't come for me,but I have something to say that
you're not gonna like.
No, I.
I often I'm.
I sit here and I questionmyself, what is it that.
That series.
I like the art, but I don'thear anybody say there's a standout
story from that series.
Like, no, I.
It's very.
That's fair.
No, that's fair.

(27:13):
I think it's fair because thetime in between, like, as visions
is coming out, everybody'stalking about episode, episode after
episode, and then after it'srun, it's like crickets, because
what you don't see, you're notgoing to remember.
So I know they did announce and.
And I can't remember what thename of the series is, but it's very

(27:34):
anime and it's dealing in Star Wars.
I can't remember that.
See, I wish I could rememberthe name of the series because I
didn't grab.
It's not.
It's not in the visions thing.
It might be.
It might be individualsbecause there.
There's.
There's one.
There was a post that I seen acouple of years ago that it was a

(27:57):
complete fan made edit and itwas very animated.
Like they had the TIE fightersand it had the.
The pilots getting into TIEfighters and everything.
It was.
That was vision.
It was very.
It had to be vision.
That was Vision Season one.
I didn't.
Was that.
It's the exact episode.
They were saying that this islike an anime version of Star Wars.

(28:18):
Right.
I remember when, when it cameout I mean, it.
And it looked fantastic.
You know, once again, provingthat you get the right people, you
get the right animators.
Oh, it looks very cowboy, Bebop.
I wasn't complaining.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody's favorite fatherand son duo.

(28:39):
And I'm not talking about Gokuand Gohan the Mandalorian.
This is too much.
Look, there was a.
Somebody.
Somebody lit the leak out of the.
The teaser before the panel.
And I gotta say that.
Damn.

(29:04):
I was like, oh, okay, thenJarin is taking out, like, 13 stormtroopers,
and it hit.
Would have been 14 if dudehadn't closed that blast door.
Right?
Well, I have a feeling.
Doesn't he have the.
The.
Hi, Boo Boo.
Doesn't he have the dark Saber?

(29:26):
No, I think Boca town has it now.
Yeah, because Boca time, basically.
She.
She won by proxy.
Bo went on her Zelda adventurelast season and got her.
That is her master sword.
Yeah, pretty much.
I appreciate that.
That reference.
It's like, I didn't.
I didn't win by combat.

(29:47):
I won by proxy.
Also, shout out to whoeverleaked the trailer, thank you for
sacrificing every invite toeverything ever again.
I hope the Disney Assassinsmajor end like Swift.
We thank you.
We thank you.
We thank you for your service.
Actually, is it.
Is it even still up?

(30:08):
I've been peeping a few sneak peeks.
Is that account.
Is that account.
Is that account still active?
That's the real.
Is that a council active?
Because that kind of says thestory about the said person.
So.
Yeah.
Hey, and also, in great Starwars news, Ahsoka Season 2 is coming

(30:31):
back.
We already knew that.
Oh, I hate that hair on her.
It's terrible.
It's a wig, though.
But because she had long hairthe day before, and I was like, oh,
that's a color.
And then I said, that's a color.

(30:51):
It's bad when you say it's a choice.
Not saying it's a good or abad one, but it's a choice.
I mean, you couldn't find a.
You couldn't find a.
A straight iron anywhere.
She had a.
She had a high ponytail theday before, so I.
It's.
Something's going on.
Did you go through a car washand catch it?

(31:11):
Oh, look at her.
She doesn't have.
I'm suspicious of what she'sdone to her actual hair, because
if all of those were wigs.
What's going on underneaththat mop, Boo?
What's going on?
Unless it's for another project.
That's for another project.
And if she's Covering it up then.
Then that said project couldprobably give it away.

(31:31):
Whatever her hairstyle is.
Right.
Did she go.
Does she go full on smooth?
I don't know.
I went full on smooth.
Very well could have very welldone that case.
So replacing our guy will beRoy McCann.

(31:56):
Yeah.
Who.
Who plays.
Who played the hound in Gameof Thrones.
Yeah.
But I didn't see nobody elseactually stepping up to that role
outside of him.
I.
There was just no way he.
There was no way Daddy Filoni was.
Was playing around with.
I don't think I'm gonna do theseries at all.
Right.
Yeah.
So y'all better be shut yourmouths about this, man.

(32:19):
I don't care.
I don't care if he plays itwith a whole ass different accent.
Shut the up.
But isn't there accent.
Wasn't.
Aren't their accents close the same?
Aren't they the same?
I don't.
I can't remember man talking.
No.
I think.
I think the original guy was.
Is British, but Rory is Irish.

(32:40):
I believe it can work.
No, but to say all that.
To say I don't give a.
Because they made a great pick.
They made a great pick.
You know.
So give me what I want.
Yeah.
So we're gonna take a quick break.
We're gonna come back.
We're going to talk about Lastof Us Season 2 Episode 2 Our Thoughts.

(33:05):
I have a thing.
But we'll be right back.
Yeah.
Until then.
You know what?
Let's wait for that one.
Until then.
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, they're gonna get this.
They're gonna get this.
Action Gary Peyton level.
Pump fake.

(33:32):
Hold it for a while.
Hold it for it.

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Up in dust Running up my level.
They ain't got the guts had to.
Cut them out I ain't hadenough Thought I was a noob calling
out.
Bluff I'm in a differentbracket I'm.
The one causing the bracket My shadow.
On me got my back when it's.
Game time Ain't no key binding we.
Gonna find A way hacket youneed a code to beat me I'm him Bet
you won't do it again S.
Rank send your best raid I'mma leave.

(34:59):
With the win they think I am.
The weakest link oh little do they.
Know I am the one true king Idon't need mercy I don't need faith
I rewrite legends I seal the.

(35:22):
Grace shadow I commit I decidehow this world ends I don't need
mercy I don't need faith Iseal that.
Grave I was considered theweakest company shattered the pieces
A future like that is thebleakest so much regret that you

(35:42):
never know peace this is mymoment to know what my peak is they
joking but don't know myreasons of course I know I could
die but if I don't try then what.
Will that teach us?
Maybe to each his own the beakis thrown and I'm never able to reach
the throne or all of a suddenmy knowledge is something inside
of this dungeon that keepsmaybe this speech is born and you'll
do anything to keep themsnoring but listen the system put
me in position Got everyintention to keep on growing Pass

(36:02):
rank word to old me My gastank never own e Make fast bank with
my own team My last name whatthey gon sing is Sung Jin Woo My
dagger slashing like Gensu tomake it fancy I split you then necromancy
uplifts you uprise Take a lookin my eyes who?
The king here you don't seefear Please don't seem so surprised
Everything has a price thethings I've sacrificed I'll never

(36:23):
be the same when I beat thisgame Greatness seems to be the.
Price Mercy I don't need faith I.
Don'T need it I rewritelegends I.
Seal their grace let them knowShadows rise when I command Arise
I decide how this world ends Idon't need mercy I don't need it

(36:48):
I don't need faith I seal that grace.

(37:14):
All right.
Well, that was the new cut byCrazy at the Great Seal their graves.
The song.
The sing the song.
Jinwoo Rap as he calls it.
Shout out to Crazy.
Great.
He always got some good stufffor me.

(37:35):
It's fun.
So.
Season 2 Episode 2 of Last of Us.
We seen it coming.
I'm not sure if we've seen itcoming in this fashion.

(37:56):
That face.
No, no.
That face is exactly how I feel.
It's the face for me.
I'm crying.
That was like a doubted thing.
I don't know what this face is.
Thank you I was about to saythat was like, I.
I feel mad about it.
That Faces the gun and juiceis starting to hit.
No, that's a.

(38:17):
It's.
It's like.
It's.
I'm like, really?
If they're.
If they were going for shockfactor, they nailed it.
Did they?
Yeah, because we kept.
We kept saying what was.
We kept saying, how are theygonna do this?
Because we knew it was coming.
Huh.
No.
Chris was like, did they,like, you want to see the gold face

(38:38):
of the.
To the face?
You're looking for shock and awe.
Just more disappointed in howit went down.
You're just like.
Because they.
They did.
They did deviate, and I think that's.
I think that's where a lot ofpeople are kind of a little bit disappointed
because they deviated the setup.

(38:59):
Wait a minute.
I think my face has been.
So many different opinions.
Wait a minute.
That's what we're here for.
Misinterpreted.
I think first, you need to goby each time.
I will.
So Spartan.
You go first.
Normally it's the women's, but I'm.
I'm in Spartan.
Oh, no.
You said they deviated, so explain.

(39:21):
Well, there.
Okay.
For all those that haven'tplayed part one or.
Or part two, again, there's this.
It's a simple play.
Okay, so Abby is actuallyfound by Joel and his brother.
He isn't.
I mean, that's how initiallyit starts.
Abby doesn't start theavalanche, and the town isn't attacked.

(39:41):
Basically, the.
Is attacking Joel while Abbyis with him and his brother at the
same time.
Abby pretty much leads him towhere the rest of her friends are
at as basically saying, okay,I can use.
That's a distraction.
Ellie eventually does findJoel, but her and Dina are.
That's a whole.
Another situation.
But again, the whole setupdeviated because the town gets attacked.

(40:05):
So it's a bit.
It's a big red herring how thewhole setup happens, but in the end,
it's still the same.
But I can see where somepeople say it doesn't have the same
effects.
I mean, we also didn't knowthat that part was gonna happen this
early.
I kept on saying, they'regonna stretch it out, but shock factor
now.
Now I thought the same thingabout them stretching out.

(40:27):
But then as it happened, Ithought about it.
I said, this man is carryingHollywood on his back right now.
So he's, like, in everybody's project.
So it's a boy.
He's just like, you know what?
I.
I got a kid and a Coupleplanets to take over right now.
I don't have time.
Right.
You got Marvel.
You got Marvel and Disneytalking about putting you to work.

(40:48):
Yeah, I got things going on.
I got a kid on the way with mywife and brother in laws, and I,
I.
He got.
What is it?
A newborn, a toddler and a teenager.
To take care of.
So he's going through typicaldad stuff.
He was like, you know what?
I really got the time.
Soccer practice, wrestling, baseball.

(41:10):
I.
I can't come to the PTAmeetings today, so.
Ain't wrong.
So, Lady Manor, what was themisinterpreted face?
My face was tense.
Just tense.
Just tension.
A lot of tension and.
But what is going on?

(41:30):
Oh, wait, you're doing it now.
Now.
Wait, wait.
I don't.
I don't hate her.
I'm supposed to hate this one?
I don't hate her.
Well, I need to hate her alittle bit more.
I don't hate.
Why don't I hate her?
I'm supposed to hate her.
I don't understand.
I'm confused.
Does it.
Come on.
They set her up better.

(41:50):
That's why.
What you're asking is howeveryone played when we felt the
game.
Because it was just like.
The fact that you got youremployees is like, if you don't tell
people up front, you're justgonna piss off everybody.
So I'm just gonna leak this toall the discord chats and Facebook
chats, and then we still watchthe happen.
It's just like, what the is this?

(42:11):
We just met you.
They at least let you know it comes.
Yeah, it comes off.
And even then, the why of herbeing angry, you're just like, really?
You know what your daddy was doing?
Fast forward.
You don't find out in the gameuntil way later.

(42:31):
So that's why.
Wait, you don't find out.
You don't find out what thereason behind him getting killed.
Yes.
In the game, you don't findout until way later.
Like, I think.
I think once you actually take.
So I'm sorry.
Go ahead, Landon.
Go ahead.
You got.
You got it.
You got it.
Yeah, because the way.
The way that they have the game.

(42:53):
First off, you are introducedto Abby as just first of all, man,
woman.
That's number one.
Number two, then they justhave her attack Joel.
They're like, everyone'slooking for Joel or whatever.
They're looking for Joel.
Then number three, you haveher campaign, and then you have Abby's
campaign.
You have Ellie's campaign, andyou have Abby's campaign.
You have a Little sprinkledof, like, flashbacks to understanding

(43:16):
why.
Why Joel and Ellie aredisplaced the way they are.
But, like, the way that thegame plays, it's very discombobulated.
So the way that Neil Druckmannand them doing this, they're like,
you know what?
We're kind of what.
Basically what Safari said.
We're gonna tell you up frontwho she is and why.

(43:39):
Her motivation there.
It was very clear because you.
They didn't even have a.
They didn't even have afuneral, much less them saying, like,
oh, I'm gonna kill him, so.
Because that's my dad.
You know what I'm saying?
Nobody knew who this woman waswhen you first actually get involved
in the game.

(43:59):
So that's why, like, I evensaid, like, they at least gave her
a chance.
Because you're right.
You.
You kind of get why she'sdoing it.
But there was so much hatredfor this character and even for her
voice actors.
Like, her voice actor wasgetting death threats, and that's.
That.
Some of y'all gotta stop out there.
This is.

(44:19):
Yo.
But that was because nobodyknew what she had actually done.
Even after.
Even.
Even after, like, they found out.
Because, like, come on, what.
After maybe two or three daysof people playing the game, people
started leaking out whathappened and who.
Yeah.
But nope, it was like, yo, I'm.
I'm gonna give the death threats.

(44:40):
Like, it was serious.
And that's another thing Iwant to say for all y'all.
People out there need to touch grass.
These actors get to play rolesthat we would love.
And again, you would love toget to play the role of Abby.
She may not be the buff Abbyfrom video games, but it's an.
It's an actor getting a roleof a lifetime to play a character
in a game.

(45:00):
And she herself has taken itupon herself to be very careful about
Abby's character.
At the same time, it's notlike you spent money on it.
Some of y'all need to gooutside and go touch some dog on
grass and stop really, withthe whole death threat.
That's what it killed StarTrek almost.
Daniel almost killed Starwars, and you'll kill almost every

(45:21):
other faction out there.
Just because some of y'allfeel the need to go straight and
to go to the actor and harass them.
It makes no sense to do.
It's a.
It's a pattern thatconsistently repeats itself.
We've seen it way too manytimes to the point that it affects
the actor's personal life.
And we've seen it the Actorwho played a young Anakin.

(45:45):
We've seen it.
We've seen it happen withChristian Haydenson.
We've seen it happen withAhmed Best.
We.
We've seen this time and time again.
Y'all are sick.
Rosemary Tran, it happenedwith her, you know.
You know, John Boyega.
John Boyega is one of the fewthat said, I bet the hell you won't.

(46:05):
That was.
I wish that was I wish youwould moment.
Yeah, they tried it, and hewas just like, I.
You.
You know where I stay.
But, I mean.
But that's why I said.
That's why I say it's crazy.
If these are just.
Pete, these are just guys.
These are actors.
I don't mean actors in just general.

(46:26):
They just get to play roles that.
Yeah.
Anybody else.
If you sat there and said,hey, would you like to play the role
of Joel from the.
From the last of Us, or wouldyou like to do xyz?
We all jump at the chancesense, but at the same time, just
if you're gonna be, hate, hatethe same way Chris Brown fans hate
him.
Quietly.

(46:46):
Yeah.
Hey, look, y'all still payingfor them tickets, though, ain't you?
Right?
What you got, Mayhem?
No, I just.
The.
The Chris Brown fan part threwme off.
I was not.
I was not expecting that.
I mean, that was the joke Iwas going with.
We're all victims of, like,what, 2010, when you got served came

(47:07):
out, and it was like, oh,crazy Brown is in it.
That didn't make it to theopening credits.
That was something Yard.
Like, I know you didn't say children.
Look, my bad.
It was a bunch of dance moviescoming up around the same time.
I got dragged all over.
Classics.

(47:28):
Very true.
Yeah.
You got served as a classic, man.
Look, I just remember, like.
I just remember even thedirector was like, like, why did
you only have them for 10 minutes?
Like, first off, it was seven minutes.
But we had them in therebecause the movie, as people, we've
all been okie doke before.
We were not prepared for it.
We were not happy with a gamewith these people working on.

(47:49):
It was like, y'all are aboutto get pump fake so damn hard.
Right?
So, like, how do you have awhole second character in a trailer
and you delay it by two monthstill after people already bought
the game?
It just.
They.
They set, like, I don't thinkshe deserves the death threats, but
they set homegirl up forfailure by, like, trying to keep
all that under wraps as muchas possible.

(48:10):
And then people are, like,playing the game, like, damn, is
Ellie Telling this at all.
And then you have to go beatEllie's ass as a boss fight.
And to your.
And to a bigger point, eventhe way that they market it, there
are some things that you couldhave sworn she was talking to Joel.
There's one point isspecifically that she's actually

(48:30):
talking to Jesse.
But it looks like in thetrailers that you saw in the joke.
So you're thinking that he'sgonna be out there.
You're gonna be playing athim, too.
It was a whole.
So here's my question.
So, because I haven't playedthe game, I just know about it, would
you say that the effects ofwe've seen in the game do not compare

(48:54):
to what we've seen in this episode?
Yeah, because it doesn't.
Doesn't have the same effect.
I'm sorry.
Doesn't have the same.
No, go ahead, man.
Go ahead, ma'am.
You got it.
I want to say, because I'm inthe same boat as you, Chris.
Like, I know the story, butI've never actually played the game.
So all.
Everything Safari and Spartanhave said as far in.

(49:17):
In Laney, as far as the.
The backlash that happened, I.
I'm all actively aware that I,in this moment, am, I guess, sort
of fortunate to know a numberof people that have never played
the game but were really intothe show.
The Internet, My Internet, mytimeline flipped upside down.

(49:39):
People were like, wait a minute.
I don't.
Hold on.
Is it.
Did this happen in the game?
What's going on?
Oh, that kind of not know.
Oh, no.
People were, like, disheveled.
This is, like, done.
Because no one.
No one.
Like, we're very in the loopwith all this information.

(50:01):
No one thinks Pedro Pascal isgetting killed off in episode two.
Like, it's like star.
Because we know what we know.
Like, it's.
It's.
I don't think it's ever goingto hit the same.
But people that were justgoing in fresh, devastated.
Yeah.
Okay, but that's.

(50:23):
But that's the thing, though.
That's why I was trying to.
I thought I was saying thatfrom a.
Because I've played.
I know.
Me, Tavare Lanny, we've allplayed one and two multiple times.
So the setup.
The set.
Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
Well, my bad.
This.
The setup, though, is wheresome people.
Like I said, you have todistance yourself.
There's some things you can doin a video game realm that you cannot

(50:45):
do in a live action.
So that's the reason why therehad to be some adjustments.
Now Do.
Now, the issue is.
It's just that some people gotmad, but it's like, oh, well, that's
not.
Well, we don't really get tounderstand Abby.
Okay, here's a wonderful idea.
Instead of complaining aboutthe setup because some did, some
did.
Like those.
Those basement incels did.

(51:06):
Go play part two.
Go play the first 45 minutesof part two.
You will get all the reason inthe world why you will hate Abby
in 45 minutes.
You don't even gotta play theentire game, just the first 45 minutes
at the same time.
Except that this is what theycan do in a limited space.
That's why a lot of things in.
A lot of things you do invideo games you cannot do in live

(51:28):
action.
So you have to find ways ofadjusting it at the same time, still
make it.
Still try to keep true to it.
So I'm not mad about how theydid Abby set up.
Yes, it was fast forwarded.
Because, again, if you didn'tplay part two, you did get the whole.
You got Joel's death first,but then you got the explanation,
like.
Like Lane was saying afterwards.

(51:49):
Well, as you play throughAbby's campaign and Ellie going back
to the hospital, you see thereasons why both of them want to
go after each other.
It's just the fact that youget that later in the game, though.
See, now, before I get to LadyMandalora, I was taking his.
His early aka, maybe prematuredeath, as this man is doing a lot

(52:11):
already.
See, he may not have time.
You know, shooting.
The man is shootingMandalorian Grogu.
The man is doing.
He's getting repressed toursfor Fantastic Four.
So he's shooting that man just.
There's not a lot of time.
He's just like, I know thischaracter dies.
Is.
I just need to.

(52:31):
How do we fix this?
Like, because I.
I can't kind of continueeverything because I'm gonna jam
up this.
I'm gonna jam up the big moneyis what I'm saying.
I.
I feel very confident that weare going to see Joel in some sort
of flashback here and there,because Pedro Pascal is money.

(52:52):
They shot you.
They got to.
They got to wipe him off theboard for five seconds.
Like, maybe an episode goesby, we don't see him, but, nah, that's
too much bread that hisbeautiful face brings in that they
just like to be actually done.
I don't believe for that.
For that very reason, though.
Just like you're thinking theycould be like, yeah, but what if

(53:16):
we don't want to pay him, though?
Like, I'm sure that they havethe money, and I'm sure that you
probably.
They could edge y'all out andbe like, they.
They're gonna keep watchingevery episode because they feel like
we're gonna show him.
Yeah.
I think the.
The thing is, how do youstretch his cameos to season two

(53:38):
and three?
I don't see how they.
How they can make that happen.
You have.
They can do the time skip offive years with Ellie.
You can do whatever.
No, I'm not talking about.
Okay, I hear what you're saying.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm.
I'm saying about, like, theamount they're.

(53:59):
They're gonna have to.
I think they're gonna have toput in some fillers because the amount
of flashbacks I don't thinkcan justify for, like, let's say
seven to eight episodes acrosstwo teams, not one.
I don't think there's gonna bethat many flash.
I think maybe.
I don't think they're.
I don't think they're gonnapull an arrow.

(54:19):
I don't think they're gonna do.
Do a flashback every five minutes.
I don't think.
Yeah.
You're basically saying thisis at.
At maximum.
This is his final season.
That's my point.
Because.
Yeah, yeah, you're.
You're.
You're then not gonna gothrough basically.
All that war because last of us.
The season is done.
So I'm sure whatever they do,this stuff has been shot already.

(54:43):
Right.
He.
It's just.
It's like he's.
That was his time.
He.
He.
Like I said, he's fantastic Four.
Star wars stuff.
Like, your.
Your window is like, hey, this.
This is all I got.
This is.
This is it right here.
You got the.
What we doing?
I know what's happening.

(55:04):
I've read.
I.
I know about it.
I've read about it.
Yeah.
He's got a.
There's a few scenes that westill haven't seen that are.
Are pivotal to the story.
I hope they don't.
I hope they don't spread themout like, one season a piece.
Because, like, I think.
I think after the New Year'sparty when she.
When he's outside with the guitar.
Yeah.
And she.
They just cut.

(55:24):
There's a whole convo thathappens after that.
Her little come to Jesusmoment after their final Face off,
which.
That was the.
In the apocalypse, the dumbestthing you can do during a fight is
stick your hand in someone's mouth.
You.
So, yeah, I think.
I think they'll have someoriginal film.
Everybody.
Everyone had a relationshipwith this man.

(55:45):
Yeah, three.
Three or four ones that are canon.
So, lady man, what did you.
What was your takeaway?
As far as I liked the episode,I thought it was very suspenseful.
It made sense to me.

(56:08):
I.
I didn't play the game.
I cheated and looked on YouTube.
So there were still f.
I don't care.
I don't care.
There was.
That I could pick out where Iwas like, wait a minute.
That didn't.
The what's going.
Wait, that didn't.
That something's off.
Thumbs off.

(56:28):
But I was still okay with itbecause to me, like, hearing everybody
say, oh, it didn't make any sense.
The second game, I felt likeit was a good way to clean all that
up so we can pass this pointand get to the rest of the story.
Okay.
Because there's ways to lookat, like, I did not dislike it.
I didn't hate it.

(56:49):
Right.
I was just like, oh, wow.
I wasn't.
You know.
And then once again, mypolitical mind, I'm thinking, I'm
like, this man is about to bebusy for the next two years.
He's like, he's.
He's kind of locked in rightnow, you know?
So that's why I was just like, oh.
But in the same time, the onlydisappointment I had, it was like,

(57:10):
she got the drop on you withthe shotgun.
Okay, she shot him with thatshotgun, but with the rifle.
Yeah, she got him with a rifle.
Yeah.
You know, so she got in there.
But think of the game.
It was a shotgun.
We shot him in a one leg.

(57:30):
And yeah, even.
Even him.
Just like she was going intoher villain monologue.
I was feeling the same.
Hey.
He was like, would you shutthe up and get it over with?
That's one of the few changes.
Tell them, Zeri.
I wish they would have keptthe original line because he was
like, all right, whatever.
Big evil speech.

(57:51):
You got hurt.
Right?
Because.
Because Abby didn't reallyhave a monologue in the game.
That's why I was tripping offof, like, they gave her a full on
monologue.
She just went ahead and wentto work.
Like, she punched.
She shot him, punched him abunch of the beating with the club.
And then he's like, she walksaway now.
And that was the first thingmy mind went to.

(58:11):
I'm like, here's the villain monologue.
He stops her dead.
Stop.
Like, shut up and get it over with.
I understand maybe keepingEllie's identity a secret, but no
mention of like, your dad.
Blood brought A blade to a gunfight.
Like it was right.
Clearly you didn't care whatthe other sodas.
Your man pulled some scissors.
I put them down.
Big deal.
I mean, you didn't think aboutthe fact your dad did try stopping

(58:34):
with a scalpel, you know, Right.
Like, he has no idea what happened.
I'm saying I'm surprised Joeldidn't bring that up.
Like, I could understand notbringing up.
Why the do I care about thisshowing the up out of the blue?
I got to tell you, the crazy.
Part was it was a self realization.

(58:56):
Afterwards where he sat, shesat there and said, you know, just
like.
Just like.
Just like back in the hospital.
And yeah, he put two and two together.
Like, oh, yeah.
Oh, you must be his kid.
Yeah.
Once you put two and two together.
Hey, your dad pulled a blade.
I put him down.
Honest killer be killed out here.
Like, okay, so safari.
You did forget that heslaughtered a hell of a lot more
people than just the person.

(59:17):
It's very.
It's very clear she caredabout none of those people because
what.
What is the sister's name thathe shot who was their friend of the
beginning?
You see, she didn't even get named.
She.
She just was put over with therest of the bodies.
He was like, you shot througha lot of people, by the way.
This doctor I'm like, clearlywe see was important.
Also, I appreciate the factthat they're at least better selling

(59:38):
how not with this.
Your friends are like, theycame for the journey.
They didn't think they wereactually gonna find the one.
Like.
You know what?
I think that they did that tomake them even more have a palatable
to people who followed thegame and had a really bad reaction.
Yeah, they were shook.
They were shook when she did it.

(01:00:00):
We get no reaction to.
In the game.
We just show up, they restrainher, and then they all spit on Joel's
corpse.
Corpse and leave.
Like, that's our introduction.
That is our introduction to them.
At least in this one.
It's like, hey, we didn'tthink you'd actually pull this off.
Like, can you wrap it up?
Because this is clearly makingus all uncomfortable also.
Yeah, even.
Oh, boy.
Even boy.
Old boy told her.
He said, finish it.

(01:00:21):
Like, he was like, we didn't come.
Here for torture just right.
I think this was gonna happen.
I'm not shocked if their wholefriendship, like, slowly becomes
a fallout when they get backto wherever they go.
Especially if.
If Isaac's character, I thinkhis name is.
Is like, very true to how hegoes and being the Military man.

(01:00:43):
I was okay with the swapsbecause it gives more people motivation
to do stuff versus, like, ow.
My feelings.
I'm gonna go, like, riskeveryone's safety just because, like,
like Dina being with Joelinstead of Tommy.
That works out for me becauseat least, like, one, I don't need
to see her and Ellie gettinghigh and fooling around while Joel
is getting beat to death.
Because why, right?

(01:01:04):
Also, Dina, at this point orby next episode or at some point
between New Year's, Joel dyingand this road trip, it gets knocked
up with somebody else's kid.
Oh.
No, she don't know.
She don't know.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Let me.
Let me not say so.
So I don't know if.
I don't know if they're gonnago to that point, but I'm saying

(01:01:25):
this is what.
This is what was stupid about it.
Gina goes off and has her own, like.
Like, fun phase while Joel'sgetting buried.
And then it's just like, sure,I'll go with you across the country,
when I probably didn't eventell the other person who.
Who could take my place.
And then they get a bunch ofpeople innocently.
Here's how I describe the gamefor people who've never seen it.
This is like.

(01:01:45):
This is like if you introduceTony and all the trailers for Civil
War, but psych.
Viola Davis actually justshoots Tony before the opening credits.
And instead of now, now theAvengers getting revenge.
But we spent a whole half ofthe movie watching it from Viola's
perspective.
So it's like.
It's like the other guys.
It's.
It's Mark Wahlberg and Will.

(01:02:06):
Will Ferrell.
But you're showing us the Rockand Sam Jackson, and they died five
minutes into the film.
And then we get introduced tothe other guys, and we have to watch
everyone.
They know and love you, Captain.
You're like, we don't care.
We just met these people.
But Tommy.
Tommy, I like the way whatthey did with Tommy because this
gives more risk and reward forhim getting involved because now

(01:02:27):
he's not just somebody's husband.
He's.
He's, like, important to thatentire structure because he was the
one getting everyone intoplace when the invasion happened.
So now.
Yeah, that's true.
So now if he gets hurt or ifhe gets hurt or injured, which may
or may not still be the case,he's now, like, disrupting his home
as well as the entireecosystem of that city.

(01:02:50):
Also.
I don't know if they'll puttwo and two together, but Abby Waking
up to her now makes her, like,enemy of the state for everyone there,
technically.
Right.
He kind of woke it up, butthen you guys told me that the tendrils
woke it up too.
So that's what I was trying.
That's what I could have.
I don't think that's gonna play.
I couldn't figure that part.
I'm like, was it a coincidenceor were the tendrils, like, telling

(01:03:12):
them they.
Have been shown in theprevious episode?
Why didn't nobody say some.
About the goddamn 10?
Somebody saw it, right?
Like somebody did.
They were looking at.
They cracked.
No, they.
They cracked open the pipe.

(01:03:33):
They saw the tendrils, cameand got Tommy.
And then somebody.
They looked over and saw thezombies coming.
And then they had to get.
Yeah, and then Tommy startsalerting everyone.
Ring the bell.
Ring the bell.
Get the stuff in place.
Get the.
Get the gas cans.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm talking about the be in episode.
The previous that it wasVines, because remember, it's still.

(01:03:55):
It's still in the pipe.
They didn't see until theycracked the pipe open this episode,
Right?
Yeah.
At that time.
At that time, Dina went to.
Joel was talking about, wefound things in the pipes.
And he sat there and said,well, that's the reason why we're.
He said there, said, that'sthe reason why we're cutting up and
replacing them.
They didn't actually dig thatdeep enough to actually.
Actually see it.
So as a viewer.
As the viewer, you saw it.
But as to the rest of the.
World, it's just like I was questioning.

(01:04:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Because I could have sworesomebody had seen it because they
were there.
He flicks the cigarette, andthen you get a front shot of the
pipe where it lands.
But, like, standing over, youwouldn't be able to see it because
we're getting like a straightshot into it versus right over the
top when they saw it and realized.
And then I guess at the.
I guess.
I don't know, maybe the.
They realized they wereexposed and then the zombies woke

(01:04:40):
up.
But also the fact that they'reshowing that these things have evolved
because in the game, theyliterally throw you into a building.
It's like, oh, right, stalkersexist, by the way.
Meet, meet your new enemyversus the way they've been introduced,
which is like they actuallyare being.
They're being tactical andthey're hiding under the corpses
of their own.
Now, that was not.
I like how they did that.

(01:05:02):
They did show intelligence.
Like, they just basicallystated is basically Buried themselves
on top of this, on top of eachother, and waited out.
I said, okay, I like thatbecause you're pretty much saying,
this is how they're evolved.
They're not.
They're not strategicallythinking, but it's almost like hive
mind thinking.
I like that.
You kind of saw that in theprevious season where they had that

(01:05:24):
big mound of them pop up outof the.
The.
Yeah, they had a big.
They had a big.
They had a big boy there, too.
They had a problem with that one.
Yeah, you gotta.
I'm sorry.
If you got a bloater comingthis way.
Of all the.
Of all the firepower you gotand this big bullet sponge is coming
your way, why do we not have explosives?

(01:05:46):
Because you trying to town alittle bit.
Yeah.
Look, that bloater was good.
50ft from the fence.
You're sitting there tellingme not one stick of dynamite.
If you missed, then what wasthe point?
I think they were trying to be.
You can't miss with explosives.
Yeah.
I mean, they have a hive mind.

(01:06:07):
But it's the fact that, like,it's no longer just a method of communication.
It's the fact that they'reactually being, like, strategic and
tactical and taking downgrizzly bears and all this other,
like, they're.
They're getting more ferociousand more aggressive.
They're not just communicatinglike they were in season one.
They're.
They're actually adapting.
So whether or not Abby was,like, the signal for them to go off,

(01:06:28):
if she just happened to becaught off and then waking up, like,
ma'am, at least take this infoback to your people while you were
off dicking around in another town.
Because her.
Her whole crew is technically,like, the best young Avengers squad.
Her.
Her team has as well.
So them going missing for,like, however long this took like,
that.
I hope that doesn't just,like, get.
Breezed over either, because,like, where were y'all at?

(01:06:51):
Like, what were y'all doing?
Yeah, right.
Especially being built like a brick.
I think I.
I think in the game, Isaac is like.
He gave them the blessings todo that.
Any other time that she leftwas not sanctioned.
Okay.
Because I.
I don't know.
I know.
Yeah.
Because he did say.
Well, yeah, yeah, I know.

(01:07:12):
In the last episode, they hadher before the council and.
And was saying, hey.
He knew.
He was just like, yeah, Ialready know that.
That was a lie.
Like, after they left, he waslike, pretty much.
It's like a slap on the wristand, like, don't do it again.
But when they left, he waslike, yeah, that was a lie.
I already know they were doingsomething else.

(01:07:33):
I'm confused.
No, no, I'm talking aboutfirst episode.
The first episode.
No, wait, Tafari.
I'm talking about.
I'm talking about Abby.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Abby definitely disobeyedorders when she went.
Out to go to Joel.
I think that was sanctioned.
Nope.
Oh, boys.

(01:07:53):
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Old boy sat there and said.
When he sat there and toldAbby, he said, we don't have the
resources to go after yourlittle revenge hunt.
And that's when old boy thatwas with her in episode two said,
look, if you're gonna go,we're gonna go with you.
Because she was never given the.
She was never given.
I don't think, I don't think in.
I don't think in the game shegot penalized.
No, in the game.

(01:08:15):
That's what I'm thinking.
They didn't really get penalized.
Yeah, they didn't get really,really get penalized because those
are his star players.
He just didn't like that theyall put themselves at risk.
Oh, her little revenge tour because.
Well, let's be.
Let's be honest.
In the game, Buff Abby coulddo whatever she wanted.
She said that.
Said she want to go up to Joelwith guns.
I was about to say something,but that's spoilers.

(01:08:36):
I would say that's.
That's pretty much it.
There's a point.
Let's just say that.
Yeah, I mean, that's basicallyit though.
Abby is such a.
She.
She was such a.
A buff bruiser for the team.
You really couldn't questionas long as she got right back to
work, which she did.
Right.
And like Tafara said, that was.
That's the number one hitter.
So she wanted to go on arevenge tour.

(01:08:56):
The Wof was like.
Hey, what you got, man?
Go ahead.
No, I was just gonna say onthe back of what y'all talking about,
Buff Abby.
I think the, the TV show isearning Abby as she is physically
because what is it, like five,six of them all together?

(01:09:18):
Why are they listening to thissmall, little real white girl?
Something about her has to bethat she is off or she, she's actually
like that up here.
Because the North.
Because the North.
Because in the game, some ofwhat gets people hurt is the fact

(01:09:39):
that she can wrestle guns awayfrom grown ass men.
That's like, that's, that's,that's a factor that actually takes
place in like certain parts ofthe game is that she overpowers certain
people.
She's Almost being starved.
Yeah.
Like I said, they.
They listen to her because thenorth remembers.

(01:10:01):
So it is what it is.
The moment that everyone hasbeen waiting for.
Hurley, we are talking about sinners.
Okay.
I want that, man.

(01:10:21):
Wouldn't it be something ifshe said, there's no more looking
in here.
I'm just showing it off.
Yeah, it's her.
Going to grab her cup again.
That's crazy.
So this amazing team of.
Ryan Coogler, Love WithGorenson, Ruth Carter, Autumn.

(01:10:43):
I want to say I'll get her.
Name with a cake.
Kurt.
Oh, Eric Erica Bar orsomething like that.
Because it's her married lastname, too.
And the entire cast who did anamazing job behind the cameras.
In front of the cameras.

(01:11:04):
I didn't check the numbers fortoday, but I'm sure.
One second.
But it did.
It did open up at 60.
61 million.
Not 60.
It was actually 61.
They downplayed it.
Said try to say it was 45 million.

(01:11:25):
I'm like, y'all not even ready yet.
Y'all didn't get all thenumbers in just yet.
Turns out it was 61.
Gave us a different type ofhorror genre that we're looking at
now.
Gave us another symbolic.
Very, very symbolic film in this.
In Sinners.

(01:11:46):
We're gonna break it down.
If you.
If you did not see this film,I have one thing to say to you.
Don't you put that on us.
Putting it all out.

(01:12:10):
We're not spoiling every detail.
Don't get it.
Oh, 71.
Yeah, baby.
Yeah.
Faster.
Let's go.
71.
Here it is.
71 million.

(01:12:31):
Hey, look, the numbers are getting.
Are getting counted very slowly.
So, yeah, 55 million domestically.
71 million worldwide.
No, it was more than 71.
It was.
It was at 100 and somethingworldwide already.
Yeah, it was like a 141 Saturday.

(01:12:51):
I think it was Saturday.
It was like.
Yeah, it was 100 and somethingworldwide on the weekend.
170 million now worldwide.
My bad.
Is it open world?
Is it open worldwide already?
I thought it was just in theUS for now.
A few.
There's a few countries thathave it.
Yeah.
Unless you're in Korea.

(01:13:11):
Shout out to the blurredexplorer for letting us know that
you won't see it until later.
And I'm like, I guess thesummertime for y'all.
They said Korea won't see ittill June.
I'm like to every anime fan inthe US Right now, pointing at Korea.
Now you know how it feels, right?
Yeah.
Which.

(01:13:31):
Which also reminds people it'snot Everywhere yet.
So it'll be doing just fine ify'all can stop making me scroll for
it when I go to look for tickets.
Shout out to that one.
I need to talk to you real quick.
What happened?
Cinemark is on that, too.
It's like.
It's like if you go look up amovie ticket at any theater, it's

(01:13:53):
like Centers is at, like, theback of the catalog.
They're trying to play games.
I don't know damn well.
I can't.
I don't see it.
I don't see it.
Oh, there it is.
Right.
Right there.
What's at the top?

(01:14:13):
Like, what movies are at?
Nothing.
That came out this week.
Okay.
Yeah, this week.
Let me see if I can.
Yeah.
King of Kings.
Stop it.
Ain't nobody.
I love you, baby.
Lawrence, I love you, too.
Ain't nobody going to see that.
Dang.

(01:14:35):
Well, those are decent movies.
It's just they all.
It was.
Was.
It was.
But it's how they're designingit to where you have to search for
it.
You're making it seem like.
They're making it seem like.
Oh, it's not in the theaters.
No.
Yes, it is, and those still is.
Those movies came out, butthose movies all came out before
Sinners, which is why it'sweird that, like, they're at the
top like that.
Oh, it's not weird.

(01:14:56):
It's not weird.
It's by design.
Exactly what that is.
Real weird.
With your money, y'all don'twant to make money.
What's.
What's going on?
I thought that was a thing.
They.
They want to, like.
They want to stick by the factthat an original black horror nor
can't make money.
They want.
They want so bad to make thateffect, to make that a fact, and

(01:15:17):
they are being proven wrong bythe freaking day.
It's already made.
Let's break it down.
Now that the academy has towatch all the movies, if it just.
Well, that's another story.
That's a whole nother story.
Let's break this movie down.
This.
Let's start off right here.
Let me tell you.

(01:15:38):
I don't know if y'all heard myvoice note, but I.
I gotta give it to Michael.
This.
The one time I'm gonna give itto this man.
Wait, me too.
He.
He.
He played.
He played the.
Out of these twins.
And I gotta say, it's thefirst time I was like, you know what?
You look the good Michael.

(01:15:58):
I said, okay, you.
You know, speak on.
He did his thing.
Okay, I will say it.
Wonderful.
There's a scene where thebrothers are sitting outside by the
car.
Oh yeah.
And Stack is rolling up the cigarette.
That was it.
Smoke is taking it.
And I'm watching the smoke.
And normally when you seethese types of movies where an actor

(01:16:19):
plays a dual role, you can see it.
See it.
You couldn't see it.
You couldn't tell.
You couldn't tell the pass off.
You couldn't tell from the shadows.
You couldn't tell from the smoke.
It was all put together.
That, and that was like, thatwas in the very beginning.
When I saw that, I immediatelysaid, oh, this a bad movie.
I said, no, imagine passing itto yourself.

(01:16:41):
You pass your own self a sick.
And then that.
And not miss a beat.
And then, and like you said,the way they played off each other,
you could tell like, oh, theseare two different people.
Yeah, he did great.
You did that.
Maybe I should save that tothe end.
I'll save it to the end.

(01:17:06):
Huh?
What?
What?
Try it again.
Safari.
Are we doing like half spoilerfree, half not?
Yeah, we're not.
We're not, we're not doing thefull dump.
You should put in on this.
You should put in on this.
I cannot be held liable forwhat I say.

(01:17:27):
That's all.
That part like, that's, that'swhy I said it's not going to be a
full on dump.
But there things will be said things.
Okay, so if you have onheadphones, just mute yourself when
these two start talking.
Like, I don't know, becausethere's two seeds that y'all.
You can, you can mute me.
Okay, so if the entire.
Just, just mute button, if youhear it from the top row on the balcony

(01:17:51):
here, just go ahead and justvolume down.
Hey, I, I want to have a weekend.
He had a whole week.
He had a week in a weekend.
And you knew that it was 100by Rotten Tomatoes for like two weeks.
Look, I even went to go see itand I, I actually did not have plans
to see it.
I didn't.
And I took my ass to the thing.

(01:18:18):
This is true.
This is guaranteed show.
You don't like y'all.
So she's coming out.
That's all I'm saying.
So if even Shoyo's saying shecan't hold water, that tells you
something.
So let's, let's talk aboutsome of these, these things.
Now besides Michael B.
Jordan, I'll almost sayMichael B.

(01:18:39):
Jordan.
Michael B.
Jordan.
Besides their acting.
Someone who I'm amazed has notgotten their flowers.
Del Wor this man X.
He's been in things multiple movies.

(01:19:02):
Mr.
Stop eating my sesame cake.
I'm just saying if you've seen Coco.
You know although the greatestrole he ever did was on a news or
was on a news channel.
No middle sister.
So say it then.
Say it.
So say it.
Say it.
Say it.
I didn't.
Say it.
Go ahead and say it.
That seems like that seemed tobe real.
That seem to be real if pullup was a person.

(01:19:26):
Nah Mel, you gotta flip that.
Smoke was.
Smoke was this chill one.
Smoke was the level.
Smoke was the cognac on rock was.
The down for a spell with smoke.
Smoke was very much the smokewas very much an example of back
then even gangsters haddecorum like yeah wait.

(01:19:46):
Yes Will.
Smoke was the level headed one.
Yeah Smoke.
Smoke was the one that was me.
If you look.
If you look at how they wereacting towards like with each other
was the level headed one.
Stack act.
You trying to say that Smokewasn't the level headed one.

(01:20:09):
He took them in the room.
He's the one that took them in.
The room number one.
Number two.
He was about his business.
He meant exactly the reasonwhy you think he's not is because
he meant what the he saiddon't touch my let honk on a horn
and let me know.
And they kept.
They kept doing what they was doing.

(01:20:30):
Oh you mean it it back got you done.
And not only that he actuallyhelped to heal them because he gave
them.
He gave all those people some money.
Stack would have never.
Hit him in the dome.
What you mean a wound in theass in the knee.

(01:20:52):
You got a limp when you get back.
He was giving them a fair shot.
That we're not saying theyboth ruthless.
Not ruthless.
It's just Smoke was a littlemore reserved with his ruthlessness.
He was just like I said what Ilike had his.
He had his things and youcould see it.

(01:21:12):
He had his.
He had his triggers and everything.
And it was shown all throughthe movie.
But he definitely he kept more control.
He.
Yes he had discipline in waysthat obviously Stack did not but
he also had his triggers whereit could which is the reason like
the scene we just talked about.
Stack has smoked the thingbecause he couldn't wrap it.

(01:21:36):
And you see that in the end.
Like Smoke Smoke was smack wasthe one that always rode the cigarette.
Smoke couldn't do it.
What?
What do you got?
What do you got?
You know what it is guys?
Baltimore is no longer on thethe of the the deadliest cities.
Oh my God, you're so ridiculous.
I've been exonerated of.
Of this.
This violence of which you speak.

(01:21:58):
You only been out here for two seconds.
Now, you.
That's crazy.
Sure, no problem.
I hope you're pro.
I hope your.
Texas.
It's.
It's lovely.
Oh, who killed the snake?
Smoke is.
It was smoke.
Stacks.
Stacks.
I still appreciate what a tagteam effort that was.
Yeah, it was very obviousbecause he.

(01:22:20):
Sat up there, he unsheathedit, and he just said.
That entire sequence, when youthink about it, who won Sheik with.
Who passed the torch and thenwho used the torch?
Was the whole thing.
Now we're gonna get into.

(01:22:41):
We're gonna get into this one.
Jack O'Connell playing Remick.
Hey, I don't know who that manis, but.
But he definitely.
He did his part.
Okay.
He did.
Yes.
He was number one.
He was singing number two.
That was.
That was him doing the IrishRiver Dance.
That was him doing that.

(01:23:01):
Because he's done that before.
He's done an interview wherehe said that he's done that.
He did it 20 years ago.
Hey, that high leg kick he didat the camera.
Yeah, his introduction.
His introduction into thescene where he goes to the.
The clan members house and theNative American vampire hunters come

(01:23:25):
there.
They.
The.
The physical embodiment of.
All right, I told you what, right?
They said, let me get.
Let me get out of here, bro.
No, because literally rightafter that, and I know a lot of people
mentioned some things aboutthat scene, and I was like, that's
so interesting.
But, yeah, I mean, they hadevery right to go to home.

(01:23:47):
It was just like they set up there.
They.
They said what they had to say.
Old boy peeked in there, seenthat hood and that gown.
He was like.
And this boy said, hey, thesun is setting.
We got exactly.
Oh, boy.
Didn't say, hey, but we needto save them.
He said, hey, y'all have agood night.
May God bless you.
And we have.
He got on the horse, twistaround and then left.

(01:24:14):
No, that's what I was tryingto remember.
The skedaddler.
That man.
There's a Jamaican man thatdoes videos about Irish dancing.
He'd be like, they skedaddling.
He's like, these are the amazing.
I know what you're talking about.
I know exactly what you'retalking about.

(01:24:36):
That's why I'm laughing so hard.
Because he does.
He does say whimsical sk.
And I lost it.
No, because all the freaking.
The posts about the movie,they were like.
All I could think is seeingthe Jason, whatever his name Is Jack
when he was doing his thingthat all I could think is, was the
Jamaican man, that's Goodaller.
And I was like, that was me in the.

(01:24:58):
The accent didn't help in iteither at all.
He says, oh, look at him.
The whips got skedaddling.
I'm like, oh God, no, no.
Because his commentary is too much.
He's like, oh, this.
Okay, that guy.

(01:25:23):
That's him.
That's the one.
Oh my God.
So.
But no, it's.
I'm not gonna lie.
Remic was spitting a good game.
Because when first off, whenthe juke joint opens and they come

(01:25:46):
up there, him, he, he'salready turned the two clans people,
they come up there and they'replaying their banjos and I'm like,
like I'm already seeing the messages.
And then they see Mary andthey're just like, oh, well she's
in there and they're like, she family.

(01:26:09):
So.
But when, when it all blowsover, when it all starts going down,
he's talking a good game andhe's not lying about the Irish heritage
and the black heritage.
He's not lying like those,they were the same, the same routes.

(01:26:30):
But he was just.
But at the same time I'm like,but dude, you, you doing some stuff.
That I can't tear up no more.
Please stop, bro.
Oh my God.
I'd like, I'd like the crowdto know the show.
You admitted to crying.
Who are you?
I'm crying because it's that funny.
Like my eyes are like probablyred, bro.

(01:26:53):
Yeah, I keep forgettingbecause at first I thought he was
basically just saying like,hey, you can either go with us or
you can go with them.
Either way your life will be hell.
I.
I keep forgetting the Irishhave their own whole history that
somewhat kind of.
I didn't, I didn't get an infodump until the queen kicked the bucket.
So I was.
Amen.
I wanna, I wanna touch onsomething else in this film that

(01:27:16):
gets.
That has it.
I'm surprised.
I'm just now starting to hear me.
Masako.
Amazing.
Her favorite part.
I'm so glad Coogler has showna dark skinned black.
Black woman plus size woman.
My fan fiction dreams come true.

(01:27:42):
And no wait.
This is what I love about sothey're denied.
This is, this is completely different.
This is how you know thebrothers are completely different.
Stacks relationship with Maryis completely different than smokes
with Annie.
When he comes by there toAnnie's and he puts the flowers on
the grave, he said, papa'shome and everything he's on there.

(01:28:04):
In there talking to Annie.
There isn't any hate.
Like, there isn't any respite.
You could tell that whateverhappened to their child is what separated
them, plus going to Chicago.
But he didn't hesitate for asecond and telling her that he loved
her.
And she didn't hesitate neither.
And when she hit you with thatline and that in that tongue, your

(01:28:28):
body didn't forget me.
He did hesitate because helooked at her and said.
He said, you gonna.
You really gonna make me say it?
Do I really gotta say it?
And she looked at him, hesaid, I love.
You know I love you.
That's a.
That's a bar, though.
Did your body forget.

(01:28:49):
God dang.
She wasn't gonna play with.
She wasn't gonna play with the ax.
She was like, yeah, this.
This.
She said, use your words.
That's.
Yeah.
Communication is key.
Yeah.
Words.
She knew it.
She knew it, but she needs tohear it.
Which I can respect.
Yeah.
Because I.
I get.
I put all the protections on you.

(01:29:10):
You can be vulnerable in here.
My whole thing is.
My thing is, like, was there adoor to close?
Because them kids was like,what, three footsteps outside the
house?
Them little niggs went the.
On you better.
They bought their product andthey left.
They had.
I'm just saying.
But like.
I'm just saying, they wentdown the street where you can probably

(01:29:31):
still see down the road and inthe door.
Like, what they doing back there?
For one, two, three things.
What you looking back for?
You got them.
Bye, Deuces.
You are ruining the moment.
I love.
I love that they showed thatscene with them, too.
That show, like.

(01:29:52):
Yeah, it was.
It was the death of their child.
That's what I took away from it.
It was the death of theirchild that broke them down.
Oh, yeah.
You know, because he.
He.
He.
When they got time, he came straight.
He got the business stuff outthe way, but he was like, I got one.
I got another stop I gotta make.
It ain't because she can fry fish.

(01:30:13):
It's just.
I know she can fry fish.
I know she can do some other stuff.
I know where I need to go.
I just need her to skin asnake real quick.
What.
What.
What do you have, Will?
What do you have?
What do you have?
Please go.
Please.
I don't know why we all justlet this happen.
If you're what happen.
I want to put my finger onsomething else and then put a picture

(01:30:35):
of Hunter B15 up there.
I did find the button.
That bar.
That bar.
Any drop, your body ain'tforget me.
Listen, fold it like thebutter in the croissant.
I'm telling you.

(01:30:56):
Look, I.
I was.
I went to the 10am screeningof the movie, and that scene had
me looking over, like, as ifsomebody was sitting next to me,
because I was like, did she.
Did you say that?
There was probably threepeople in my theater.
Okay.
But they was nowhere near me.
And that scene had me.
I was like.

(01:31:20):
Well, look, I.
Look, I looked at my wife anddid like this.
That words do it every time.
So apparently.
So apparently in this movietheater, all the ladies lean forward
when they heard that.
The ladies lean forward in the middle.
They had a reason.
But.
But because she.
Yes, but because she basicallypulled his card because for, like,

(01:31:42):
30 minutes, we watched himbasically play, like, the gangster
with decorum from old school days.
And then she came here andjust tore all of that down in the
span of, like, 10 seconds.
Okay, I know who you are.
He never lost that for her.
She gave him that.
The hoodoo bag for protection.
And like, she.

(01:32:02):
You might be a big dog outthere in them streets, but when you
come home.
Yeah, that part.
Know who you serve?
Know who you serve?
No, I'm blanking on the.
No.
Like, honestly, I feel likeyou've had to at least see the still
picture of this by now.
US Spartan.
But if you haven't, just knowthat the face that that man made

(01:32:26):
in that, like, before anything happens.
But the face that he makeswhen she kind of says that is like
a.
Okay, this is not porn at all.
But, like, he.
He made a face that was just like.
I don't think I thought I wasgonna see Michael B.
Jordan make that face with hismouth again.

(01:32:47):
I didn't think that I wasgonna see it.
Like, so.
So good to know.
Okay.
Yeah.
So basically.
Basically, out in the streetsyou smoke in.
In this house, your name is Elijah.
Knock it off.
100, correct.
Know what your mama named you?
Yeah.
And I look, I loved that for them.

(01:33:12):
I'm like, yeah, that's.
That's black love.
That's black love.
But, yeah, today just said,really whoopty.
We don't do nicknames.
What did she say?
She said, don't get that smokeover here.
Nobody.
Elijah.
But yeah, that when she said his.

(01:33:32):
Name, when she said, we attend the.
Same church, I fully.
I.
I can co.
Sign.
But that.
That's kind of what I likedabout their whole thing is, like,
it wasn't just.
All right, let's find a reasonto get her naked on camera.
They.
They at least have.
Did Like a tasteful version of their.
Their whole.
That I can appreciate that so much.
Was a very nasty ass.
Movie.
Movie.

(01:33:54):
It really was.
It really was.
Being bent over, but fully.
Fully cloth.
That's.
That's what I'm saying.
Fully fully clothed.
We got work to do.
But, like, I still miss andlike, very representative of them
old school relationships.
100%.
We.
We didn't break up.
You were.
You were gone for seven years,and I was hoping you'd come back.

(01:34:14):
Some people did, some people didn't.
So I'm not sure.
No, because sometimes it was painful.
Easy.
It was.
It was.
I was like, oh, I would take.
My mama to see this movie.
You don't get that?
No.
Speaking of which.
No, wait, hold on.
Tasteful.

(01:34:34):
Yeah.
Because Tafari went to see themovie with his mother.
Were you.
Question.
Were you feeling weird at that scene?
Now, she.
My dad sat between both of us,so that's crazy.
Was it?
I.
I don't.
Look, I can only imagine.
I know if I'm watching a seatwith my parents, it's still awkward

(01:34:56):
as hell to me.
It ain't awkward for me.
It's definitely not an awkward moment.
It's not because you.
It's.
It's.
It wasn't an awkward moment.
It was so.
But it was a beautiful.
It was.
What do you want to say?
It was raw and raunchy.
It was simple way.

(01:35:16):
It was very simple.
Like, there was nothing crazythat happened.
Like, my thing was, peoplewere saying, oh, we got to see such
and such.
Get her black blown out.
Me sitting here.
Like, do y'all know whatgetting your black back.
Back.
Blown out looks like?
Because that's not what we saw.
Okay.
It was nice.
It did what it needed to do.
But, like, it was not.

(01:35:38):
It was not anything crazy.
Like, it was simple.
It was done.
It did what it needed to do.
It showed what it needed to show.
What's the rating?
Show, Yo.
What's the reason?
The rating?
I mean, I definitely.
I mean, if you want a 10.
Of backs blown out.
What's the.
Oh, it's given very much.
Like five, you know, itdoesn't mean it wasn't good.

(01:36:04):
I tried to be nice.
No, no, no.
That's a three, but I can giveyou a three.
There we go.
If there was like a shoulder,a hand on the shoulder.
It was very simple.
It was simple.
Okay.
It was loving as well as lusty.
I.
Christy is perfect.
Here.

(01:36:24):
Here's the.
Here's the better question.
Do you prefer that or theBloodbath Bang out from Lovecraft
Craft.
Which one would you rather see?
Let me.
Let me tell you, because the other.
Yeah, yeah.
Remember that's the last timewe saw her do anything like that.
Also, she's an unofficialscreen queen.
We love you.
That's.
That's true.
Yeah.
You know, also what makes methink that also I think that's.

(01:36:47):
It's also her being here andbeing the juju person also makes
me think Smoke is definitelysupposed to be majors before.
What happened?
No, not at all.
He said it was not only everhad Michael in mind for this part.
He said.
I feel like that's the plan.
I feel like that's the.
That's the plan.
Now.

(01:37:09):
He would have said that he'snot afraid to tell the truth.
I know he's not.
But I'm saying the fact that they.
Were twins really didsomething for the movie.
I really don't think thinkthat that was.
And actually I know because hedid say it.
He said, nah, this was alwayssupposed to be one.
It was supposed to be twins.

(01:37:30):
So the fact that it wasMichael, I.
I mean, because peoplehonestly people throwing majors all
through this movie and I thinkit's unfair to Michael as much as
a person.
For me, I don't really.
I mean, I know Michael can act.
I can't take that from him.
But I've never been like, oh,I'm a Michael B.
Jordan fan.
He can act.
But this movie definitely wasgiven like, like, hey, I really enjoyed

(01:37:51):
his role.
He.
He did a great job.
And so for people to bethrowing, I'd be like, I'm just sitting
here, like, just let Michael,like, it was just Michael.
It was just taking anythingaway from Michael.
It's just once we heard themovie was coming and saw that relationship
building and then that happened.
The timing.
Who are fellow co stars in itand like similar stuff.

(01:38:15):
At any point, if there was arole for him and it's like, yeah,
he's been in these shoesbefore, it would have fit him perfectly.
No one's saying he wouldovershadow Michael.
I don't think so.
Because if, if.
Let's say that this thingnever like that whole incident with
him never happened.
Marvel would not let him dothis movie.
They would not.

(01:38:35):
And have him come back as hewould never.
Too much been too much.
Might have been too much.
Okay, moving on.
Probably it probably wouldhave been moving.
On because none of, none ofthe other people that have done movies
with Marvel have done anythingrisk like wrong.

(01:38:57):
Yeah, right, right.
But I mean, except, except,except Haley Steinfeld I'm crying.
He's.
Sony.
She's not really.
Yeah, That's.
Son.
That's.
And does it count if she's notactually on screen?
That's my cousin.
She's not actually on screen either.
We got B15 in there, though.

(01:39:19):
She's clearly gonna beimportant, guys.
She's.
She's Hawkeye.
Stop it.
Yeah, okay.
She is Hawkeye.
She's Cap.
She's.
She's also.
She's also a napkin.
They will look at herdifferently when she shows up again.
It's okay.
Yeah.
In the history of movies, youusually don't get in trouble until

(01:39:40):
after this type of stuff comes out.
I mean, she'll be.
I should.
She'll be fine.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, she would be fine.
I'm talking about our previousmentioned person.
Like, usually the phonedoesn't stop ringing until after
they see your role.
Like Brandon T.
Jackson after Lottery Ticket.
So Haley Steinfeld's role in here.

(01:40:00):
She did her job.
She did her job.
And there's a.
And there's a line that she pulls.
There's a couple that.
I'm like, oh, God, can I say.
It, or are we not gonna say it?
No, go ahead.
Because it was like, youtalking about, oh, my.
You.
You out.
You out in Chicago robbingtrains, but you can't route this
for a night?

(01:40:21):
Or this.
I can't remember.
Yeah, I was like.
I was.
Like.
I said, okay.
I mean, that's not my type of time.
But it's a folding line.
It's definitely a folding line.
Can you read that line backone more time?

(01:40:41):
Like, cover her ears?
She said, you.
So you can rob trains inChicago all day and night, but you
can't rob this for a nightbecause she's married.
That's.
That's the thing.
So she's technically married.
No, not technically.

(01:41:02):
Yes, she's married.
It's not a.
It's not a loving man.
Basically, what I'm trying to say.
Hold it.
Yeah, right then.
Mayhem.
You are correct once again.
It's a line that will fold thestrongest person, I think, for.
For her situation, it's like,I kind of.
I get it.

(01:41:23):
I mean, she's.
She straddling the linealready, and then she's married to
a.
A white man.
Not on the hand of herdecision, so.
And we never get to see thatman, which is great, but it's also
just like.
It's.
It's like I give her a passjust because of the.
The times and how she wasalready passing for a reason.

(01:41:46):
She was Considered a malignant.
She was.
She was white passing.
Because I think they said itwas her grandfather.
That was her mother was at.
Right.
Yeah.
So she was white passing forthat time.
That's what.
That was a lot of talk.
Yeah.
So it was stacked.

(01:42:08):
That was.
Man, he folded.
Yeah.
He definitely.
I'm assuming he did.
Yeah, he.
But see, in theirrelationship, their relationship
was different because he was like.
Like, I cannot be seen.
I love you, but I cannot beseen with you because I will be dead.
Yeah.
All it was.
It.
All it takes is one person intown to think you are what you ain't.

(01:42:30):
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And her.
But also, I mean, I can acknowledge.
I mean, Stack also was scared.
Like, Stack didn't want.
No.
I mean, he ran off in the same way.
I'm not saying he was scaredto be with her.
I'm saying he was scared ofthe responsibility.
In my opinion.
That's what it felt like.
He was scared.

(01:42:52):
It felt like he knew he would.
I'm so sorry.
It felt like he knew he was ahood and you are too delicate.
I don't want you to be responsibility.
And that's what he said.
That's what he said.
He said.
That's why I pretty muchhanded you off to who?
Whoever this dude is thatshe's supposed to be married to.

(01:43:13):
He was like, he could give youthe life I can't give you because
you come with me, it's overfor me.
It's like.
And not in a good way.
Ending.
Crazier.
Quite.
Yeah.
White because.
Because he did.
It's accepted by that time.
It gets accepted.
It's been, what, decades?
No, but not even that.
It's just, you know, they've.

(01:43:34):
She dragged.
She dragged him with her.
Yeah.
I mean, they have.
It's no reason at that pointto not be together.
Well, anybody who threatens them.
That's the way I took.
Yeah.
Their whole relationship.
They.
The brothers got.
Mirroring relationships.
One is honest and the otherone is playing like they don't like
each other.
But meanwhile, all themarriages in this movie felt like

(01:43:56):
business transactions or theygot a mister waiting at home.
I'm saying outside of the.
Outside of the.
Outside the Asian couple.
It's just like they say theygot one that's almost like a status
or like a husband you don'twant to be with.
But even Sammy's girl.

(01:44:17):
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
I'm like.
I'm like.
I'm like.
I'm like pearling kind ofyoung And Sammy kind of young.
Ain't no.
Ain't no kind of.
With pearling.
Ain't ain't no kind of.
Because that train scene, Iwas like, yo, wait a minute.
Yeah.

(01:44:37):
Because the way she talkedabout her husband, I'm like, your
husband is like Mr.
From Color Purple or something.
It's like some old dude yougot shipped off with because we don't
see him the whole movie.
But, like, neither one ofthose women speak about their husband
positively.
Played by Jamie Lawson.
But it's also.
It's the 30s.
That's.
That's also.
If we're gonna be honest aboutwhat marriages look like in the 30s,

(01:44:58):
and especially since we'retalking about the south of Mississippi.
And.
Yeah, we see people insharecropping because we could talk
about Cornbread's ass and his wife.
And so you see all thedifferent types of dynamics of marriage.
I mean, they didn't.
Women couldn't have nothing.
Still at that time.
It's enlightening.
I think.

(01:45:18):
I don't know.
I think it was.
Who was a Spartan of Tafarathat realized who she was, because
I kept trying to figure outwho she was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's the mayor from Gotham.
Gotham in the Penguin and the Batman.
Hey, imagine.
Imagine.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna hold you, lady Mandalore.
I'm not gonna hold you, ladyMandy Lord.
What I.
Do I.

(01:45:39):
I think she might be a contender.
Don't you?
Don't.
Relax.
No, I'm serious.
She gotta look.
She's got an aesthetic.
No, no, no.
Relax.
She's the new.
She's new and up and coming.
She's got the look.
She's got an aesthetic.
Sick.
No, I'm not gonna knock it.
Storm is needs to be a womanof a certain age if they're going

(01:46:01):
young, cute for, like, young Storm.
I don't do this.
Don't do this.
Not right.
They're not gonna.
They're not gonna go.
They're not gonna go with a matured.
Right.
No, when I say lady of acertain age, I mean, like, hey, she's.
Not gonna be stor.
Let's get to Sammy andPerlene, because.

(01:46:25):
This was.
In, in, in.
When you go from boy to man,like, that was.
That was an exceptional gentleman.
That made me laugh.
I'm sorry.
That scene made me laughbecause he said, let me try something
real quick.

(01:46:46):
And Stack was out.
Yeah.
Let me tell you.
And Stack was outside that dough.
And he heard it, and he heard it.
And I said, he's like, my Boyfound that button.
Specific fact that she triedto be a lady with her foolishness
was like, hey, listen, I'vebeen out here all day.

(01:47:06):
I walked over here.
Let me go freshen up.
He's just like, now where?
That's crazy.
Let me do what I do.
He folded.
No, because it was the whole subtle.
Like that whole scene was.
I was like, yeah.
The man likes Tang is what I'm saying.
He likes Tang.
It's all right.

(01:47:27):
Like little seasonings.
It was the.
The slow fall back.
I was like, look, you know, they.
They did the whole.
Again.
Again, though painfully.
It's not just a reason tostrip people naked on camera.
I mean, but it makes sense forthe piece.
I mean, they wasn't getting naked.

(01:47:51):
That's it.
I know what I'm saying.
I mean, we don't know how muchfurther it went once the camera cut
back.
Put the photo back up realquick of her.
Explain something.
Everybody go to the.
Everybody in the corner.
I'm looking.
Everybody.
That center.
That center photo.

(01:48:11):
That's the after.
That's how he had.
Yeah.
Yes.
That.
That is the part where all the lady.
She was on stage performingand drinking and cutting up.
Y'all are way too excited.
I saw a video today, and thisgirl on Tick Tock said.
She said, if there's one thingthat y'all should have learned from

(01:48:33):
this movie, she said, it's toeat that cat.
And I ain't saying nothing else.
I said, let me turn this off.
Because you see how she wascutting up after.
Because we didn't see how farit went.
We just see them coming outthe room later, and suddenly everybody's
all performance ready andloosing loose as a goose and cutting
up a rug.
And then I just.
I like how it build up,because that is like, that.

(01:48:55):
That's somewhat.
Is what it's like growing upwith like older male cousins and
uncles.
They'd be talking to you about nonsense.
They were having a good time, man.
I'm not gonna lie.
They were having a blast.
I don't know if he.
He meant the end credit sceneor like their conversation in the
car.
I know he said.
Said one of those was improv, but.
Like, oh, that car scene was athousand percent improv.
You talk about D was improv.

(01:49:19):
You talking about.
You talking about licking theice cream.
Licking the ice cream.
I promise you.
Because there's a scene thatDelroy is talking about.
He's like, well, the wholething in the car was kind of improv.
And I don't know if he wastalking about himself.
Oh, when he was telling that story.
I feel like it was him when hewas telling that story, because.
Okay.
Because I was like.
He kind of like, like, perfect.

(01:49:40):
I missed some of the detailsbecause, like, I'm hearing it when
he's telling.
The story about his friendthat was killed basically in the
car when they're on the wayafter getting picked up.
Oh, you talking about Delroy?
Yeah.
Oh, my bad.
I wouldn't be surprised.
That all happens in the same car.
Is him, Slim and Slim and Sammy.

(01:50:02):
And they're all.
All of that happens in one car ride.
So I'm like, which part ofthat was improv?
Because if it was thatconversation, I'm like, yeah, that's
like me in the car with myolder cousins and uncles.
And.
Yeah, you're just like, allright, get out of my face.
I know y'all just trying to be funny.
But then when the momentarrives, you start thinking, like,
was there anything they said true?
Sammy, Meanwhile, Sam.
And then Sammy having that happen.

(01:50:24):
The fact that Smoke is on theother side of the door.
The fact that some.
The fact that somebody elsehas to take over the door.
Watch.
He's like, check out my little cousin.
Like, he's having his.
His proud father moment.
And then Delroy, when he'slike, hey, go get Smoke.
He's like, he.
And he's like, yeah, he's inthe room.
Oh, he kind of busy, huh?
It's.
It's all those little nuanceshappening back to back.

(01:50:46):
I'm like, this is like a wholefamily type of party.
The one invited white friend.
Like, everything about thatwas just giving family vibes and
just comfortable until getgets crazy soon after.
Right.
So you want to talk about abreakout star, Miles Kon.
He can sing.

(01:51:06):
He got first acting role, andhe pro.
He's actually been on tour with.
With her since he was 16.
This.
And she told him, go try outfor this role.
He did not know how to play guitar.
He just was a singer.
And he got that role and waspracticing five hours a day on this
guitar.

(01:51:26):
Well, who better to learn howto play the goddamn guitar than from
her?
Thank you.
And let me tell you, that scene.
And if you know the scene I'm.
Talking about, man, all thescenes that he was doing, playing
and singing.
Leave some meat on the bones.

(01:51:50):
So he's playing.
He's playing this songtouching my pearls the entire time.
Go for it.
Look, there's a scene.
This scene he's playing inthat scene I just started, that was
his that was his big moment, right?
And he's playing the song, andthen all of a sudden, you see the
ancestors, you see hip hopdancers, you see crunk, you see twerking,

(01:52:12):
you see Asian influence dancers.
You start seeing Irish.
It start all these cultures mixing.
And you seen DJs.
And I'm like, next thing youknow, the roof is on fire.
The next thing you know, thebarn is gone and they are all out
there dancing.
And I'm like, this is so visual.
I don't.
I'm sitting in the theater andI'm just like, cool, you did it again.

(01:52:34):
You did it again.
I don't.
I don't know what was wrongwith me.
I don't know if this is a partof my brain that just reacts this
way.
I literally felt the heat onmy face in from that scene.
And I thought I would.
I thought I was having a moment.
Like, what is this?
Is this menopause?
What's going on?

(01:52:57):
Were you in a 4D experience?
I'm sitting there, I'm cryingbecause of this.
I'm like, what the Is going.
And then the heat, the barn isburning down.
I'm like, why do I feel like.
It felt like.
Like that rolling fire type of situation.
But it was just my face.
Like, everything else was fine.
It was just my face.
That was an.

(01:53:18):
A powerful scene stating howthat music is so influential from
so many cultures into so many cultures.
Hi, whale watcher.
Stopping.
Relax.
Thank you for your service.
Lord have mercy.

(01:53:41):
Y'All.
As much as y'all talk about usbeing chaotic on this, like, middle
to bottom row, y'all have beenhaving a time up here just in not
very often weekend.
Ain't nothing wrong with whathe said.
Nothing at all.
I was.
I'm very grateful.
So I.
I wanna.
Right.
Like, it's not just me.
Yeah.

(01:54:02):
So I want to add.
I want to ask our cinephile ofthe crew, because I know there was
definitely scenes great thatpopped in.
What's happening?
Nate Mayhem.
That scene.
Talk to him.
That.
That's the scene whereessentially was.

(01:54:25):
I was almost like, I don'tcare what happens after this.
This movie's getting five.
Because I legitimately.
Y'all seen the meme we'retalking about, like, when you losing
that Madden and then theperson does this.
They sit up.
That was me.
I legitimately.
As it was unfolding, I satforward in my seat and was just locked

(01:54:48):
in.
I was like, yo, Coogler is a madman.
Like, how do you.
What.
What makes this come to your brain?
And Then on top of theaudacity to show off all of these
different eras and differentversions of black excellence on screen

(01:55:10):
this way.
But also it's a one shot.
Yes.
Seamlessly goes from person toperson, reveal to reveal, up until
the fire and back down toeveryone in.
In the ashes.
And I was like, I.
Like, I.

(01:55:30):
Was like, I.
I don't know if I'm capable ofcreating something that's like, this
scene is worth the price of admission.
Like, that's the scene therewhere I came back to the chat and
I was like, yo, this is, thismovie is going to be the reason that

(01:55:51):
we have of future black filmmakers.
This, this scene alone,someone's going to be standing on
a stage one day accepting anaward and have to be like, yo, shout
out to Ryan Coogler.
Because I was da da da da dayears old when I seen Sinners and
it changed the trajectory ofmy life.
Like that scene right there.
It.
I don't know if I can behyperbolic enough about it.

(01:56:16):
Someone is watching that sceneand having their J.
Cole at a Kanye concert moment.
That scene felt like church.
That scene really felt good.
Good church.
Yes, good church.
Like you walked out of therelike I got the word.
I feel good, good, good church is.
A very good of community andcoming together.

(01:56:37):
Not like I'm.
I'm running off the.
I'm not a.
But just in the sense of I'mnot a church person looking.
I say I would go to that.
I frequent that church on aregular basis.
I love the cinema.
To have that experience thatalmost out of.
It's not out of body, but youknow what I mean?
Out of body experience and aroom full of people that I can connect

(01:56:57):
with.
Not the white people.
It's.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
I, I want to give not justMiles the credit for that scene because
good Lord.
I want to give the credit tothe cinematographer Autumn Deraul
Archipel, first female toshoot in feature film on IMAX 70

(01:57:18):
millimeter.
So already breaking ground.
I want to give another shoutout to Ludwig Gorason, who has teamed
up with Coogler on several occasions.
And the scores that this whiteboy puts out.
I mean, he, he ain't invitingnobody to the cookout, but we gonna

(01:57:41):
feel bad about not letting you in.
Well, we will stand at the gate.
We will have someone bring youout a plate.
That's.
That's the best.
No.
Did you learn nothing from the movie?
Tell me he don't get a bite after.
Did you see what did you seewhat happened?
I'm saying the same.
Put his hand outside.

(01:58:02):
I'm saying the same thing Isaid during that scene.
You to put him on the groundand slide it past the bear.
He can't come in, but he canaccept it from the other side.
Yeah, those grabber thingies.
Here, baby.
Thank you, Lizzy.
It's one of them things whereyou just, like, you give.
You give him several to goplates, like.
No, you.
You did.
All right.
You did.
He can't come.
He can't come in and get him.

(01:58:22):
But just.
We'll deliver him to the door.
You can.
And you.
And you gonna get the good pieces.
Don't worry.
You gonna get.
You gonna get some extra Macand cheese.
You're getting that.
That's good.
I'll leave.
I'll leave something for youin the work fridge with your name.
Hilton.
With the.
So you tell me none of thempeople had a fish fry tickets to
go play home after they allgot kicked out.

(01:58:44):
I really.
So the only grace I give themfor that is the fact that.
I mean, we all know whathappened during that time.
And it's also the fact thatDelroy did not tell them what they
actually told them to do inthe room.
Delroy told them to go aheadand get on, but that's not what they
told him to tell them whenthey were in the room.

(01:59:05):
So that.
So when they left andeverything, you know, that's also
made me think about, dang,they all left when maybe they could
all stay.
But Darrow told them to, youknow, to Going on now.
Just.
Just get on.
So it's like, ain't no time.
Ain't no time to get no plate.
You finna get kicked out.
Look, that's the.
That's the part where the olddrunk kicks in.
All right?
You can only.

(01:59:25):
He already wasn't supposed tobe watching the damn dough.
Like.
He's like, what kind of doorwatching are you doing?
He was not happy.
We gotta talk about watchingthe door because Omar, come on, man.
He did a fantastic.
I love him as cornbread.
I like the kindness speech he gave.
I was like, he is pulling outof thin air.

(01:59:49):
I didn't.
I was supposed to just begetting along.
No, once he was out there, we.
We doing what we got.
Got to do.
I'm like, negro, the party is over.
No, because he Pa.
It was the pause.
He was like, well, we all friends.
Yeah, like.
Like it was giving.
It was giving Candace Owens alittle bit.

(02:00:09):
That's why.
That's why Annie was like,You've been in and out this door
all day.
Why we got.
You can push your behind pastboth of us.
What's the problem?
My whole thing was just like,so y'all.
So we just gonna put the moneyin his hand.
We can't just like, onceagain, any proven.
Be careful.
She said it.
Be careful.

(02:00:30):
And what happened?
And I shout out to Annie forbeing like, no, no, don't talk.
What happened?
Don't talk to him.
Yeah, that's also why Iappreciate, like, her being there.
Because, like, they had awhole, like, that part.
I was like, you could havejust went to the side or to the back.
You didn't have to go.
Better question, why do wehave have to see it from that angle

(02:00:50):
for so long?
Cuz, after a while.
After a while.
After a while.
After the buzz and then thekeep going.
No, the sound and the keep going.
Yeah, it did.
It was.
Cuz it's like I was sittingthere like, you've been at this door
the whole time.
How.
How you been drinking as much, Right?

(02:01:10):
The sound was funny.
It was just like.
It was like awkward laugh.
It was like, awkward.
It was funny laughter.
And then it was just like, allright, man, like, put it away.
Like, can y'all switch thisshot up, please?
And then you kind of.
I can't tell.
I can't tell if it's thelighting or if you actually could
see them in the bushes behind them.
Because you hear them come,but you never see.
Like, they were like.
They were like two.

(02:01:31):
You can see like.
Yeah, they cut it so quick.
I couldn't tell.
Oh, no.
Because you could hear themwrestling around.
But what was throwing me was I.
Never want to be attacked withmy man's out.
That's terrible.
That, that.
That's another thing.
Especially if I, you know, he got.
To put it back in.
What you mean?

(02:01:52):
No, apparently not.
Listen, I'ma speak for all thegentlemen on the panel real quick.
I.
I agree with you.
You scared and trying to putyour drain away that you might zip
slip and get killed.
That's a terrible way to go.
Yeah.
You're not trying to Frank andthe bean.
The Frank and the beans.

(02:02:12):
You're not trying to die with.
With a half leaking bladder.
Like, look at.
Hey, man, y'all.
You ain't.
You don't know.
You don't even feel death atthat point.
Back to life.
Okay?
But in my cold body, the onlything that's warming me now is my
own fluid.
You didn't let me finish with.
So that's.
That's not fun.
Now you ain't even got toworry about peeing.

(02:02:33):
You.
You hide mine now.
It don't even matter.
I mean, that's a goodquestion, though.
If you.
I mean, that's a good question.
If you die mid p.
Does it finish or does it just evaporate?
Like, oh, my God.
Now you have, like, she said,like, you gang.
Now, literally, they was all gang.
But, like, I also did likethat he.

(02:02:53):
People like him did at leastdo, like, their own backstory for
this movie because he feelslike I found, you know, some of my
friends.
He knew.
He knew his back.
He knew his actual backbackground, like, 100.
His.
His father and his grandfatherwere sharecroppers.
So he was just that.
One step away from knowingwhat that was about, which was.
Which is exactly a cool thing.
And he said that's why hewanted the hat, because that's, like

(02:03:14):
old photos of them.
That's how they used to dresswith the overalls, the sharecropper
hat.
So, yeah, he'll never get that.
That.
That.
That lip service like, he waslooking for.
That's what brought him ontothe job in the first place.
He's like, yeah, if you.
If your.
If your wife knew how muchmoney you was gonna come home with.
All right, now, that was funnywhen he said, you got.

(02:03:36):
He said, you got a good woman.
I said.
Because she said, just go.
She said, he talk about.
About dollars.
We're not talking pennies.
She said, get out of here.
Like, how much money we talking?
Right?
And even then, that was themost healthiest marriage I saw out
the entire damn thing outside of.
Of the Asian couple, becauseat least he was willing to fight

(02:03:59):
for his wife.
The Asian couple, man, he was at.
Least willing to fight for hiswife, and his wife was like, well,
hold on.
Money's on the line.
Take the job.
You can maybe whoop his asslater if you want to.
Let's talk about the Asian couple.
So it was crazy because they.
They had two stores, one forthe black community and one for the

(02:04:19):
white community right acrossfrom each other.
Other.
They do everything else.
And.
And while they were in theblack community, it wasn't until.
What's her name?
Grace.
What was her name?
No.
Yeah, it was Grace.
It was Grace.
When her husband doesn't comeback, I'm like, oh, baby, no, we

(02:04:41):
been new once.
He.
Grace caused.
Caused nationwide teethsucking in unison.
It was.
Was.
I'm like, Grace, that.
No, he gone.
And it wasn't in.
All she could think about washer daughter.
Everything else Took a back seat.
But so I do like that perspective.

(02:05:07):
And then also, I know we kindof talked about the other perspective.
You know, we've seen the.
The Asian Tick Tocker who, youknow, talks.
Talked about that.
But I also was recognizing theother perspective to that was it's
not even just about her kid,but also, like when, you know, he

(02:05:27):
spoke in her language.
Self preservation, for sure.
But also to think about.
Which is why I said whenDelroy told them to all leave.
Right.
You.
Now you have all those manypeople that are now.
And it's like to.
To think that all of thosepeople could absolutely go back to
their loved ones instead ofstaying in.
Hey, Navy.

(02:05:48):
Instead of staying in thiscentral area to focus on them.
If they have.
If any of them had left, thetown would have been.
Yeah.
Because they would not knowthat any of them were there.
So it wouldn't have even justbeen about her daughter.
It really would have been allof those people had people to go
home to.
If any of them left, it wouldhave been over for the town.

(02:06:11):
Which I think is aninteresting perspective, too.
Christy Christie is nowsecurity at the cookout.
We just go leave it at this.
Can't come to the cookout for sure.
But that's a good part from the.
From the music scene to there.
Yes, that was church.
But church has visitors for a reason.
Like you don't bring.
Because at the door, they werenever there.

(02:06:32):
They were never part of the community.
Because you got what isbasically our argument with what
religion was being taught withus, even though we're not free from
the people that taught it fromus technically, even though we're
on opposite sides of the street.
But then you got the musicscene, which is actual church, to
where even if the music, whichis spiritual, does attract the wrong
type of spiritual attention,we got a person for that.

(02:06:53):
We got a whole girl who knowshow to handle hates.
Oh, no, this ain't a hate.
It's a vampire.
I know what to do.
Start cutting this, this drinkthis, eat.
Like we had people for each ofthese things, regardless of where.
Where Candy.
Yeah.
That's why I started laughingwhen I saw that.
Yeah.
Something had to move themovie along, but, like, at least

(02:07:14):
it wasn't one of us.
It did.
It was then.
Was it.
Was it eating guard?
The eating garlic scene was actually.
Oh, my goodness.
I was like.
I was like, no, no, becauseyou talking about Ms.
Perlene.
Perlene.
Perlene and Delta Slim were just.
They were the worst onesbecause Perlene was like, I don't
like the way it tastes.
Talk about, girl, he about toshoot you if you don't.

(02:07:37):
You saw how fast he unloadedon the first one and still had bullets
to spare.
So he was ready to shoot hisown family.
Girl, you don't need that thing.
Stop playing.
When she finally got it downand it came down to Slim, who've
been drinking all day, hestarted Harlem shaking.
Like.
What is happening?
It's just.

(02:07:58):
He was just like.
They were so ready.
It was like, I'm like, comeon, not Slim.
I'm like, when did they get slim?
Also, let that music choice.
Let that whole sequence showyou our distaste for bad music comes
from a spiritual place.
So you upset.
You upset us and the ancestorswith your shits music.
Just.
Lord.

(02:08:19):
But you know what?
To.
Also, when I think about thegreatest part, like what people were
talking about, like, forpeople that, you know, love vampire
lore and, you know, watchvampire stuff like that.
Like a good point that somepeople made, which I didn't think
about in the moment, but italso, you know, for the purpose of
this conversation, like Tafarisaid, you know, obviously, we need

(02:08:40):
you to get the movie along.
We have so many different perspectives.
But it also was just the factthat we know that Mary was already
let in.
The idea that technically,they technically didn't need another
invitation.
Because Mary was already let in.
Yeah.

(02:09:00):
Oh, wow.
Because it breaks.
It breaks the barrier.
It broke the barrier.
I thought they had to be letin individually.
No, because they're high.
Perfect example.
Perfect example.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Once angel was lit in Spikeand Darla and could all come in freely.

(02:09:21):
Because all that.
It broke the barrier.
Right?
So that.
I think that.
I think there is a distinction in.
In this.
When they throw homeboy outside.
No, he ran outside.
No, not.
Not the chick's name.
I forgot her name.

(02:09:41):
I'm so sorry.
Grace.
Grace.
She invited all of them.
She gave carpet everybody.
She said, come in.
I get that.
I.
I get that.
But what I'm saying, she said one.
Stack and one stack and Haleywere already inside.
They should have been able to.

(02:10:02):
To come back at any time.
That's what I technically.
Technically based upon howvampires work, I think, which is
it brought.
What I'm saying is just to addto a different perspective the idea
of.
I really do think.
Because Remic was.
He wanted Sammy, but it wasalso like, he really wanted them

(02:10:22):
willingly.
He wanted to get them to give up.
To give in.
And it really was giving, like.
Like the.
This alternative perspectivecould very well be.
They were playing with Them.
Oh, so join the cult orbasically die.
That's what I was kind of getting.
But I think they kind of.
They kind of established therules with homegirl when they threw
the wrong person outside.

(02:10:42):
Because when, when, when statwhen Stack.
The same, the same negro theybeat up for having loaded diet.
They've seen him drunk,thought he was dead.
Hey man, it turns out hewasn't dead.
Remember when Stack was deadshe was like we need to get the body
outside before it comes back.
And she said that before.
So now when they saw.
I think that was them kind ofplaying with the rules.

(02:11:04):
You mentioned show yo.
I think that is also correct.
All those rules didn't.
Don't get applied until you turn.
That's.
I think that's where you getaround all that.
You, you're.
You can come in and out as ahuman as much as you want to, but
once your soul has been altered.
Yeah, the rules change.
Yeah, but Mary had already.
She was let in.

(02:11:25):
She had died out there.
That's not really Mary.
I know but that's the point.
Mary was at the point she waslet in.
I think, I think Mary.
I think Mary had to wait onhead vampire to basically because
you said.
I think he because invited her in.
Yeah, Cornbread, he didn'tknow any better.

(02:11:47):
It doesn't really matter whoinvited them.
They could have got the randomperson to invite them in.
As long as they let them in,they can come in.
So to your point about themplaying with it, I think it was more
so now that I'm under the wingof boss head vampire.
I'm not gonna go make a chargeif he don't.
And especially since he seemedlike he wanted them to submit.
Like you said.
I think it was more so becausewe realized towards the end her and

(02:12:11):
and Stack were kind of ontheir own tip anyway.
So I think it was more hismission than hers.
Hence why she didn't lead thecharge on it.
She just started all the dramaand then left.
Candy got a lot of theoriesthat seem to make sense.
She said her theory maypossibly work had Remick been invited
in because he was the leaderof the Eye.

(02:12:32):
That would have just negatedeverything else.
And they just.
That was, that was also mything with them running.
I'm like, if you're born inthe house, does that mean you have
to leave and then re enterbecause the first thing they did
was get out of there.
I don't think he wanted toleave but he.
She threw the, the stuff onhim and of course.
Oh Yeah, I forgot.
I forgot.
He probably just was like, youknow, I'm gonna go get to my people

(02:12:53):
for a sec and get some clarityabout everything.
I was like, after he gotthrown it on her, when he was just.
Hanging at the door, I'm like,you ain't got a little more of that
in the jar to just splash inhis face?
Because, like, I will say this.
Grace at least had thepresence of mind to take her husband
out.

(02:13:14):
On behalf of everyone else.
Yeah, thanks a lot.
Yeah.
I'm crying.
It's like, I guess.
I guess she was like, ain'tnobody gonna kill him but me, and
I'ma go with him.
Well.
I mean, I'm like, yes, yes,your child's an orphan, but, like,
you have two sources of income.
She inherits.
She'll be fine.
Not in that time.
That don't matter.

(02:13:35):
Running back and forth acrossthe street to work both sts.
I mean, look, and I.
I think there was significancein the fact that Grace was at the
Whites Only and her and herdaughter was over there, but not
only her daughter, but him.
I think that.
Was it intentional to have herbe the store clerk of the Whites
Only?
Because when you think aboutposition and.

(02:13:57):
And.
And looks, because that's thewhole point of, you know, them even
needing to have a posture of a.
All white, you know, place.
Like the posturing of themother being the.
The clerk of that store and itnot being her husband, I think that
was intentional.
Yeah, so she says, like Candysays, not for Mary to talk big trash

(02:14:20):
about being able to beat upany in the juke joint but then run
away from fighting when shehad vampires.
I called Cap somebody lyingabout having hand.
I could not.
I mean, they had guns.
So what you got, Navy?
I've been trying to get a wordof edgewise.
Y'all been throwing nouns andpronouns and verbs since I walked
up in here.

(02:14:41):
Chris said, hey.
I went, hey.
And then all I heard was, y, Mary.
Okay, so y.
First of all, conversation.
Jason.
Reverend, you know what?
That's fine.
I just came from the theater.
Literally walked into my.
That's crazy.
This microphone.
Because I got a fresh perspective.
And let me tell you, everybodywas right.

(02:15:02):
I loved.
I love the symbolism all overthe place.
Especially.
Especially when he startedplaying in the middle of the joint.
And then you see just ancestors.
You see history just formright there on the floor.
And that just.
That made my heart swell.
And that just made me realizethat this movie has so much depth

(02:15:26):
to it.
It is one of thoseconversation pieces that is not going
to go away anytime soon.
You could tell there was a lotof jack in the box and a lot of in
and out burger and everythingelse eating while they wrote this
movie and put this together.
Incredible.
Yeah, I, I, yeah, that's yeah,that scene.

(02:15:48):
Something's going to happen.
Something's going to happen.
That is a hard, that is areally hard scene to ignore for so
many reasons.
Just the symbolism and thehistory and the storytelling in that
one scene.
Good grief.
Cinematography.
Thank you.
The cinematography, thecostumes on the technical.

(02:16:09):
Side alone, even if you don'thistory the technical side isn't.
Was amazing.
Let's talk about the costumesbecause auntie was at it again.
Yes, she was.
As per us.
Yes, she was.
Carter.
Thank you.
Once again proving HaleyStfield said she couldn't wait to
get fitted by Ruth Carter.

(02:16:32):
She looked forward to itbecause it's.
Just a whole intricacies.
Every layer had a meaningbehind it as the movie kept going.
And I'm not gonna lie thatlast scene because Lady Mandalore
said you need to stay for thelast scene.
I felt that as soon as he satdown and started playing, I felt.
That it was good.

(02:16:53):
Before we, before we get tothat last scene, you know, chaos
ensues, everything goes down.
But there's one other piecethat a lot of people didn't really
touch on.
This is where the angerreviews came from.
Yeah.
So the brothers buy the, theybuy the, the meal.

(02:17:14):
They bought it from a whiteguy and.
And they say yeah, if anybodycrossed this line, we taking them
out.
And that's when the white dudes.
There ain't no clan no more.
However were they were wrong.
Of course the clan would saythe clan is.
There's no right because hewas still playing around.
He was part of the clan.
He was one of the leads.
Right.

(02:17:34):
And Smoke, who's been leftalive went to the trunk and got out
their army gear because thebrothers were in the military.
They were in World War I.
Listen, you talking about, youknow that.
Feeling, you know that feelingyou got in Django when Jamie Foxx
was winning that house and andwent and went went buck wild nuts.

(02:17:59):
Nobody was walking out ofthere and, and you know, we were
like yeah, that was, that was my.
The theater theater erupted.
But that, that was the, thevery black ass moment that I was
telling y'all about from myearly screening was that the, you
realize the entire momentmovie he was prepared to just deal
with that.

(02:18:19):
He was already prepared toshoot from the beginning of the film.
He just didn't know he wasgonna need that many bullets.
So throughout the entirezombie apocalypse, vampire apocalypse,
he is, he is still thinkingthe entire film undertone, if I survive
this, I still gotta shootthese crackers in the morning.
No, because he said, he saidwhen I, when we, when they bought

(02:18:40):
it, he said, and we better notsee none of your money around here
or we shooting y'all.
And then that was part of thevampire speech though, was him trying
to convince him to join.
Y'all gonna die in the morning.
Yeah, when he told him that,he told me.
But see, I.
My thing was, okay.
I did think like, were theyexpecting all of them?

(02:19:02):
Not.
I threw my phone.
Oh my God.
Were they expecting all ofthem to fall asleep at the, at the
joint?
Because I think they weretrying to lock the door, lock them
in and.
And they gonna do that at night.
Because they didn't even tryto come there at night.
They was.
They was either gonna sendeveryone home before sunrise or lock

(02:19:23):
them in and be like, y'allstay here.
We gotta handle some business outside.
Because there was enough gunsfor smoke and stack to flank them
like a true military.
But that doesn't make.
Because they never showed up.
They never tried to show up at night.
Can we point out how knowthere was blood on the floor when
they bought the place?
He said, what happened to thepeople before and he just spit on
the floor.

(02:19:43):
Yep.
I was confused by it.
I didn't like, I still.
I didn't fully understand thehistory of killing floors up until.
Yeah, yeah, but.
So I don't know what, I don'tknow what the plan was.
Show you.
But I think, I think theirgoal wasn't to get everybody, but
just to take these blackpeople's money and then ruin the
building that they bought and,and just say have.
I think they.
They were planning to killthem, but it was just like to.

(02:20:05):
To think that they were goingto be there in the morning.
I was like, like that.
Like what?
Whether they got one orwhether they got 15.
A lynching is a lynching.
They were happy to.
100%.
They were happy to take blackpeople's money and then kill the
people they took the money from.
Which 100%.
Cuz that's what made me mad.
I said, imagine I just toldyou this.

(02:20:25):
This.
I gave you this bag of moneyand you still show up.
That's what pissed me off.
But then you said, and now yougot two.
Two twins, ex military whoknow how to sit here and clearly
set up a sniper point and wasready for it.
So before the, before we Evenknew the vampires was coming.
They was ready for the, thescarfuffle in the AM.
Not the.
I haven't heard, I have notheard that word.

(02:20:49):
Oh no.
That's what I've been using tospoil the free tail.
What happens in the beginning,I'm like, they get a little skirt
fuffle.
You know, everybody.
The, the.
For the blood purposes, likeon the floor.
I think it definitelyrepresented, you know, the people
that they killed there before.
And also the fact that it wasvery obvious that the money that
they got, like, not saying itwas blood money, but it was definitely

(02:21:10):
not good money.
Like, like we know where theirmoney came from.
And it, it.
And it was kind of like piecedtogether throughout the, throughout
the, you know, the film withthe, with the mobs and everything
like that.
But it's just like I, I think,I mean there was a lot of foreshadowing
in there.
Yeah, yeah.

(02:21:31):
Because that was a piece.
Go ahead, man.
To show your point.
I like, I do.
I didn't even think about itwith you were saying about how they
showed up in the morningexpecting anybody to be there in
the first place.
But like as the sceneunfolded, it made me think of the

(02:21:52):
episode of Dave Chappellewhen, when he shot the slave master.
And everybody's like, oh, he'slike, what?
I shoot a slave master every episode.
If they let me.
I was like, that's exactly.
That's all I could think in my head.
It's like, I don't know if Iactually needed the scene as far
as everything else thathappened in the movie.
But we shooting a bunch of clansmen.
This works.

(02:22:15):
In 2025 United States.
That, that is the perfect winto a movie where we technically almost
lost everybody.
Like, and then.
Which what probably ended upbeing the story is that they found
the Klansman bodies, but noneof ours.
And they probably just blamedit on them because that's.
I was expecting that.
But.
But there's nobody to find.

(02:22:35):
There's nobody to blank.
There's nobody around.
Like we didn't see.
I guess everyone turned toash, but they left the clan corpses
there with a.
With smoke.
So I'm, I, I was expecting oldman Sammy to kind of give us that.
Like, yeah, they just told thestory and said Klansman killed everybody.
But I still remember what happened.
But that's fine.
I know some people said thebuild up flare felt like it was too

(02:22:57):
long, but it wasn't.
It was letting you know that's character.
That's character.
Build up of what?
So that's the.
That's the complaint.
Some people have.
Like, oh, the first half wastoo long.
It's like.
No, it's show.
It's showing you that thesepeople are important.
They're not just characters tokill off later.
Everybody.
Problem with people.
Everybody had a.
Those are the ones.
Those are the ones who didn't.
Don't.
What it takes to have a realstory, plot, exposition.

(02:23:22):
Thank you.
Matters.
Like, here's the thing.
Most of these people with atik tock attention span come into
a movie theater and they swearup and down that everything's got
to be explained within thefirst 30 minutes.
And that's not the case.
The.
The credits alone will takeyou about 5.
And then you get the setting,which takes about 10.
I don't understand it.

(02:23:43):
That's like.
It.
Don't start with y'all.
Don't start.
Who is coming?
That's why I threw.
That's why I threw him up front.
I'm like, nope.
He got this word.
Shut up.
While I lay down these vocals.
Let him speak.
Every time you do that, Ican't help but laugh.
But it's true.
I first sat in the movie andenjoyed myself because I knew everything.

(02:24:07):
The who, what, why, where,when, and how we're gonna be like
in that first hour or so.
And I was patient.
But then what's funny issomebody behind me.
Somebody.
When we gonna get to the action?
I want to say you in the wrong movie.
Well, I don't know what you.
This ain't.
Somebody said that.
That.
Yeah, someone said it behind me.
And I said, oh, we got thisfast and furious.

(02:24:28):
Here's the problem I have withthe people that think like that.
You're in the mall.
If you've never seen a RyanCoogler movie come on at all.
Like, you don't know.
He does character developmentin a storyline.
Like Shoko said, the exposition.

(02:24:48):
There's a reason in a per.
That's why by the end of this film.
Well, not the end, but when weget to that.
To that climactic scene and.
And smoke, taking out the clan.
And he takes a bullet.
And then he sits down and he.
And he's trying to roll that cigarette.
Mind you, he.
That's normally Stack's job.

(02:25:09):
He's shaking and he's thinkingabout all these people that.
That came to help put thisthing together.
And then he just.
He.
He crumbles it up, snatchesthat protection bag off, and then
that's when he sees Annie withtheir baby.
Any other film where your main characters.

(02:25:33):
Yeah, yeah.
Any other film where your maincharacters die and you, you're just
kind of like it was.
You're just like, man, that'skind of messed up up.
This was not that feeling.
You're just like, this is howyou tell that story.
This is how you make these people.
That was a payoff.
Yeah.
I say it's like movies, movieswhere everybody gets got.

(02:25:55):
I usually can't watch morethan once.
Like, I think Miracle of St.
Anna is a beautiful film, butI can't stand the fact that I know,
like none of them brothersmade it out of there.
Except the only one that made,I think was one person in the little
boy.
But like this movie where likethey at least did it in a good way
to make you care abouteveryone, not just, oh, I liked him.
I thought he had more, more lines.
Nope.

(02:26:15):
Like, they built it up and Iwas like, come on, Smoke, get up.
You'll be fine.
Once they showed the baby, Iwas like, ah, yeah.
So.
Especially after what she saidwith Annie told him earlier and she
was using them bones and shesaid, I'm not.
If I'm not gonna make it, I.
Got somebody waiting for me onthe other side.
You should join us.
Put that, don't get no Smokeout on this though.

(02:26:37):
But to, I guess to anotherpoint in, in that moment or in those
tones, we don't often getsomebody that dies and it, you know,
they're at peace.
Like, that's, that's what it was.
He, he was okay with itbecause he at least, he at least
got Sammy, who was.
They all basically talkedabout like the future out of there.

(02:26:59):
And even when he was talkingto Sam, he was like, I want to go
on the road.
No, you're gonna take your assover there with them.
Other people who know how toact right and will treat you right,
don't like, yeah, like, Stackis cool, but he hard headed.
You need to go over there.
So like again, I repeat,gangsters had decorum back then.
Like you didn't, you didn'tinvolve them in your nonsense.
You're like, hey, we lose thislife because we have to.

(02:27:20):
You don't need to.
You need to go over there andget your act right.
And, and that's the thingStack was telling Sammy, you need
to take that and you need togo out there in the world.
Like if he didn't know, doanything else.
Right.
I guess you could say he toldthat, you know, and even.

(02:27:40):
And Sammy's daddy, played bySaul Williams, it Wasn't that Sammy
didn't want to be in the church.
It's just Sammy's daddy wantedme a preacher.
He's like, God didn't make meto be a preacher.
He made me to be a singer.
Sometimes your higher callingis not to be in.
In a town, in a house of God.

(02:28:02):
Sometimes your higher call,like, he.
He got a gift.
I mean, there was also cell coppers.
I mean, I just.
I mean, to be honest, nobodywanted to be a sharecropper.
So it's just like.
Like he had an opportunity.
Or rather not even.
He didn't really have anopportunity, but he had a gift that
he decided, I am getting awayfrom this, regardless which it in

(02:28:26):
itself.
I was like, you know, thatcould have potentially been problematic
for his family because theywere sharecroppers.
So him leaving, it's not likewe know that he technically could
leave.
He just decided, I'm leavingbecause I know that this is the whole
song.
I'm gonna look, I.
He got.
He got a freak out of mind.
Yeah, just a little lot of mine.

(02:28:46):
And every.
That was him saying, God gaveme this gift.
I'm going to use it.
And here's another thing.
That scene between him andRemic in the.
In the lake, I was.
I thought the water was goingto turn the holy.
I thought it was going to turnto a holy water lake and call it
a day.
I wasn't expecting the.
Cuz he started praying and I'mlike, is this where he blessed?

(02:29:07):
Is the water in it?
And.
But then Remic startedrepeating the line.
He says, because everybodyknows the Lord is crazy.
I.
I didn't know.
The Irish went to their ownreligious forcefulness and their
own.
They did very heavily.
That's why he was saying itthroughout the film.
He was like, sammy, we.
We're the same.

(02:29:29):
We've come.
Our.
Our backgrounds is generallythe same.
People forcing themselves onus and took our.
Took our land, took our blood,took our.
I'm like, yeah, but.
And you notice in that scene,the megalomania took over, because
as he's talking and keepdunking him underneath the water,
I'm going.
You get a little bit tooheadstrong in your victory.
You think you gonna win.

(02:29:49):
And then when.
When Sammy came home, Ithought that.
Was all very like, Chris.
I think it had a lot of, like,religious in that whole scene.
Because, yes, the dipping inthe water, the respecting of the
Lord's Prayer.
Yeah, the baptism, but alsothe fact that you've got this vampire,

(02:30:09):
the.
The devil quote, unquote andit used to be an angel.
They know what you are saying.
Like, it's not to say thatthis cannot protect you, but it is
to say that your enemy alsoknows the same thing.
Things that you are reciting, bro.
Yeah.
Because these words weretaught to both of us by different

(02:30:29):
enemies who took everythingfrom us.
And the only thing that wasable to help him out of that was
the guitar.
And that's.
That was such a dope thing.
Because by the time this moviehas gotten so crazy, we don't forgot
that silver is even a thingthat hurts.
Vampires.
Yeah.
So this dude, when he does it.
And I'm like, oh, that piecewas silver.

(02:30:50):
I never forgot.
I wasn't.
I just thought it was a coollooking guitar.
I a think that guitar had waytoo much symbolism behind it.
I said, that thing is going tohave a significance later.
And when he hit it with thatguitar, I went silver in the well.
Okay.
Yeah.
I thought he was gonna liketake the rest of the guitar and hit

(02:31:11):
him with the steak.
But then when smoke shows up,I'm like, so how did you.
Also the whole.
He feels everyone's pain.
That was kind of confusingbecause it.
Seemed the gestalt takeseverything from them, so.
Everything from them.
He's.
He like.
Like the.
You know, from when it beginswith all the fire and everything.
And he.

(02:31:31):
He says, I want their stories,I want their songs.
I know.
I know he feels it, but it's like.
It feels like it was random sometimes.
I'm like other people getknocked inside the head and arrows
moving just fine.
But then one person gets hurtand suddenly everyone.
It just because it.
It.
It's more like for Annie, likesomeone mentioned in the chat, like
they were all sad.
And my perspective of that wasAnnie had so much cultural and spiritual

(02:31:57):
knowledge.
Them losing her, not her.
Her not being able to turn.
She was very adamant on.
You need to kill me.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I was thinking the same thing.
The Choctaw in the beginning,I'm sitting.
There going, that's another.
That's.
That's not that we learnedwhen we let y'all on the shore.
This is your problem now.

(02:32:21):
That's all they all.
Like I said, all they had todo was see that robe.
And that woman was like, youknow what?
But.
But with the other.
With the other cultures inthis film, they.
He was on the run from themtaking a risk in broad daylight,
which means they did something.
They put the hurt on him sobad he was willing to risk it with
like his.
His biggest enemy.
Which was the sun, becausehe's there, bloody, burnt, and like

(02:32:44):
one eye swollen shut.
He kind of realized how dumbthe people were, too.
Talking about my wife.
My wife is hurting me.
I'm terrible.
I'm sitting there going, ify'all believe this, you deserve everything
you get.
No, but I mean, they.
They were racist.
And then the native have theirown methods of dealing with this
and detecting it.
Because clearly they knew whatwas up at some point and probably

(02:33:07):
took out whoever he broughtwith him over there.
Yeah.
But then when they get toSammy and them, it's like they try
to relate through music.
Doesn't work.
Then they try to relatethrough their hive mind.
So, like, I got the hive mind set.
Like, they were all sad.
Homegirl didn't get to turn,and he honored her wishes.
It was just like the painthing seemed a little flip floppy.
But when he hit him with thesilver, then Smoke sneak past everybody.

(02:33:28):
That's like, all right, thatmakes sense.
Like the head vampire.
Cool.
It felt like what it wasinconsistent with the fodder.
And then Slim going out like areal G.
We appreciate you, Bill.
Yeah.
Hey, yeah.
Oh, shout out there.
Roy Lindo.
He did go out like a G.
I know I'm not gonna make itout of this one, but I'm not gonna

(02:33:50):
let my people go down.
I'm gonna make sure I takesome of this heat off Slim.
And Sammy very much gave me Sam.
And Isaiah is the way he's like.
He's still feeling.
We call it Church hurt.
That.
Church hurt about his music.
And he was like, no, this wasenforced on us like that religion.
This has been with us sincebefore we got here.
So he was trying to basicallytelling Sammy to play his heart out.

(02:34:11):
And sure enough, he did Piercein the Veil.
So now we fast forward to.
What was it?
92.
It was, yeah, 1992.
Yeah, 92.
And we're in the Club Perlenes.
And that's Buddy Guy that'splaying actual blues player.
Buddy Guy.
He's playing older Sammy, andhe's doing his thing, playing a set.

(02:34:34):
And after.
Set is over, club is closing down.
Bodyguard says, hey, Sammy,there's somebody.
People at the door that wantto see.
Some fans, they say they wantto see you.
Bring me in.
Who is it?
Stacking Mary in a coogee sweater.
Right?
Yo.

(02:34:56):
The 90s haircut and all thestep and everything.
And that's when you realize,oh, Smoke couldn't kill his brother.
Because that moment where theywere facing off, he had.
He had him dead.
He stack Or Sammy had him.
Not Sammy.
Smoke had him.
Did the rights.
Had stacked.
Did the rights.
And he said, I just beenprotecting you all my life.

(02:35:18):
He's like, I just tried toprotect you all my life.
And he says, you did.
And that's when you find outthat Smoke made Stack promise, don't
touch Sammy because that'stheir cousin.
He said, don't touch him.
I don't care about nothing else.
Just don't touch him.
He has a chance.
And he kept that promise.
And he said, I just came in.

(02:35:40):
He's talking about, you know,that electric guitar stuff you play.
That's cool.
But I like the, I like the,the real stuff.
He's like, just play me thereal stuff.
And he plays it for him.
They hug.
Because I was a little concerned.
I'm like, hey, man.
About to renege on this promise.
I was nervous about the renegon his promise.

(02:36:01):
He said, I ain't got that muchlife left.
Yeah.
He gives him, he Smith, hegives him that bitch sniff.
He's like, you know, you ain'tgot much longer.
And Sammy says, ah, nah, I'mtired of this place.
I'm like, brother, I feel you.
That whole, that whole ending,that's where my mom lost that speech
he gave at the end where hewas just.

(02:36:23):
Like, oh, the freedom speech.
Yeah, that was.
He said, Sammy says, you know,I wake once a week.
Week.
Once or twice a week I wake upparalyzed in fear.
But then I think about thatday and it was the best day of my
life.
Not the night, right?

(02:36:43):
Yeah.
And he said, how was it for you?
And Stack says, it was, he waslike, I got to see my brother again.
I got to see the sun again.
And he said, for a few hourswe were free.
And I'm like, symbolism, damn.
That's, that's what got my mom.
I missed the second scenebecause me, me and King Live, we

(02:37:07):
had to rush out past everybodytrying to get like, footage.
And then I heard talking.
I'm like, are they still going?
Yeah, crazy work.
It was, it was a young Sammy playing.
I'm gonna lit a sign.
Okay.
In a blues fashion.
But he was in the church.
Okay.
So, yeah, so it was the movie.

(02:37:29):
10 out of 10.
I, I just want to point outbecause I don't think there are too
many people that have talkedabout this yet.
They only had four months toshoot this movie.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Shot on really hot days andeverything, April to July.
That the, if he had a year toshow shoot this movie, I, I, what

(02:37:53):
would we have Gotten.
Hey, look, go ahead and justput the entire director's cut on
the DVD from me, player.
I'll watch.
I watch all three and a half hours.
That.
That is the mind of a.
He's from Oakland.
Right?
From the Bay Area.
I can't remember.
That is the mind.
That is the mind of a coolCalifornia native.
I appreciate it.

(02:38:13):
And he's been talking like.
I'm talking like a trueCalifornia native.
Look, this man ain't said thename right in one interview.
It's Shinners you're going tosee, not Sinners.
And I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Real quick, before we get outof here, quick round to this.
This is probably our longestepisode yet, but this was one of
the best movies this year.

(02:38:35):
So we were giving it its time.
There was no rushing.
This a cultural event.
Yeah.
So it's.
It still is.
Yeah.
Go see it again.
Whether it's.
Whether it's the70.70millimeter version in the theaters,
whether it's IMAX.
Go see it again.
I'm trying to go see it tomorrow.

(02:38:56):
If I don't, I'm going.
I'm going on Friday orSaturday, but go see it.
Go show support.
This movie was.
It was 12 out of 10 at its.
I want to read.
Laney, I want you to give your.
Your review real quick.

(02:39:16):
Your rating.
I should say.
Drum roll, please.
Okay.
My heart.
I'm gonna say like I said onYouTube, on my channel, my heart
says cannot.
The.
The Horror person says 9.5.
So I gave it a 975.
But it really is.

(02:39:37):
It really.
But I just wanted a littlemore vampires.
I just want.
I can't lie to you.
I can't lie to you.
This.
That's how I feel.
But it really is a great.
Oh my gosh, Lady Mandalore.
A thousand out of ten.
Like, what are we talkingabout here?
I'm.

(02:39:57):
I'm gonna go see it again.
I am very, very proud to saythat the IMAX theater.
Let me actually take a quickpeek to see how much the ticket prices
are, because I can't remember.
Yeah, it's 32.6.
Oh, yeah.
You got.
It's worth.
Is to.

(02:40:18):
For tomorrow's showings.
It is sold out.
It is at night.
I know.
That's right.
Oh, yeah.
And at least do you get to.
Be Michael B.
Jordan afterwards?
Shorts.
You get a film reel.
You do this tomorrow?
Yeah.
Starting tomorrow, you get apiece of the IMAX 70 millimeter film.
When you go in there.
For as long as it lasts.
I don't know how much Filmthat is.

(02:40:39):
But that sounds like a lot ofgoddamn film.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I, I, I, I might have to leavemy mother.
We have.
Sacrifices will be made.
I'm telling you, she's got,she got the 70 millimeter experience.
I have one in Dallas.
I'm gonna try to make it.
So shwo.
What was your rating for this one?

(02:41:00):
Yes, Sho.
What is your mind you mind youeveryone show quo don't like much
any.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I definitely think I'm gonnahave to agree with Laney and give
it like a 9.5.
But it's amazing.
A hater.
Yes.
That's not a hater.

(02:41:22):
It's amazing.
It doesn't take away from it.
All right, give me your rating.
10 out of 10.
Go support the movie.
There's a no bootleg embargo.
Get your ass out the seats andgo watch the damn thing if you, if
you want to see it at home.
You got like three months, buddy.
Warner Brothers needs money.

(02:41:43):
We didn't forget y'all still broke.
Book, please, for the love ofGod, go buy tickets.
Tell your friends.
Take the scaredy Cats if theyneed a handheld.
The Blu Ray and the thesteelbook is already off of pre order.
So if you can, please, please.
It's already on the docket.
I think they already.
They've already had to restockit like once, I think also please
have your pitchforks readybecause now that you actually have

(02:42:05):
to watch the movies to vote,every category it loses we know is
a snub.
Mayhem.
Oh, I.
I'm really glad you got in onthis one because you are our cinephile
of the crew and, and youropinion really matters because I.
When I seen that scene in thebarn, I'm like, he gonna love this.

(02:42:27):
He gonna love this.
Yeah.
I guess to some of thepeople's concerns that we've expressed
over the course of the evening.
I get how people can say theyfelt like it was two movies kind
of stitched together.
And I'll say I, you know, inreal time.
I was like, I don't know if Ineed this.

(02:42:48):
This, this piece with theTommy gun at the end.
However, caveats always exist.
Caveat being you get to mowdown some, some kkk.
I don't need a reason.
Do it.
Put it in your film.
Love it.
The barn scene, that.
That's a thousand out of ten.
But in and of itself, that,that paints over everything else

(02:43:11):
that could have possiblyhappened in the film.
And yeah, man, some, some wellclothed, well choreographed hoism.
I.
I don't know.
I don't know that.
That.
That there is a movie thatcompares in recent memory whatsoever.
It is an experience.
You need to go out and see iton the biggest screen possible.

(02:43:35):
Yes.
What you got?
Carrie, you had another note?
Absolutely should see it.
I do.
For the people that are awesome.
Ho.
Maybe.
Oh, wait a minute.
Are you saying.
That was a shady cut?
It was.
It was very, very, very quickly.
You don't actually have to sitin the theater in order to get this

(02:43:58):
thing some money.
Go get the bootleg.
Fine.
But give the $20 to thetheater so that my.
So that these people can maketheir money.
Okay.
What my second in command say?
She's not lying.
Navy.
Oh, hi.

(02:44:18):
Hey.
What's going on, y'all?
This was definitely 15 out of 10.
It was well worth it, this movie.
If you missed this movie,that's your fault.
Okay?
If you are deciding if youwant to go see this movie, it is
still your fault for notgetting up off your ass and supporting
this movie.
Okay?

(02:44:38):
That's all I gotta say.
Thank you, Christy, forbringing this up.
Because this deal that hemade, it, it's.
It's shaking up the tofu people.
I'm telling you that right now.
They mad the final edit.
The final edit.
So here's.
Here's.
Here's his deal.
He saw 90 million for themovie with a few string attached.

(02:45:01):
He needed to retain control ofthe film's final cut, receive a percentage
of the box office girls fromthe beginning film's theatrical run
rather than waiting for cutafter it became profitable, which
is most common anyway.
He also insisted that theownership of the film would revert
to him after 25 years.
He just told WB it's mine.

(02:45:25):
And he said.
And he said the reason why hedid that was this film.
This film was about ownership.
And the fact I said 25 years,which means you gotta talk to him.
You got to talk to him.
Distribution streams.

(02:45:46):
I forget the gentleman's namethat actually did the deal, but I
saw a article about him.
He said, I heard the pitch forwhat this movie was.
I.
I made my next move, my best move.
Like y'all think this is acrazy deal.
I think it's crazy to let thiswalk and be at somebody else's studio.

(02:46:08):
No, because that's what happened.
He said he was gonna walk itmarching somewhere else.
Smart move.
Thank you, Coogler.
And.
And.
And it is.
It's going to shake up everything.
From ownership to blackdirectors and filmmakers going forward,

(02:46:30):
it's about two today's.
Yes, it is.
Price.
I will say this for all thosethat are.
Because again, I'm.
I'm the only one in the groupthat hasn't gone seen it yet because,
you know, sickness and family.
But it's all good.
Please check out a lot ofother people's posts about this movie,

(02:46:50):
including Navy and Tafari andKira's, because they all point out
certain literature, books,books that are all tied to this,
that can be tied or inspiredby this movie.
So.
And he paid.
He paid homage to other filmsthat were influenced.
Somebody tried to say this isnothing more than Dust Till Dawn.

(02:47:11):
He didn't pay in.
He didn't pay.
Yes, he did.
He said it out of his mouth.
Yeah, that.
That dude's dusty curly headedass can shut up.
Okay?
He said it out his mouth in aninterview that, yeah, Dust Till Doll
was one of the inf.
There were a lot of vampirefilms, films that were influences.
There's nothing that you cantell me, I don't care what nobody
say.
There's nothing that you cantell me that this movie mimics.

(02:47:35):
There are a lot of things thatpeople mimic these days.
And it's like, okay,originality is kind of like far fetched.
You can't be original as much.
There is not another moviethat I could say, oh, I thought of
when I thought of Sinnersbecause it was like that movie, he
didn't rip off nobody.
That's a complete hold on Chrissy.
Thank you.

(02:47:55):
He said he partnered with oneof the oldest theaters owned by Allies
in Oakland to give it thesupreme format and all seats of $6.
He gives love back to his.
To his city.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Hey, man, Cali people gonnalove they Cali people.
Black Panther too.

(02:48:16):
Yes, he did.
If you want something unrealfor all.
Of his movies, I think, Ithink he's done it since Fruit Veil
Station.
Now you see what it supported,how what support looks like.
It is a wins for the entirecommunity and the culture minus SH
Moore.
Sorry, bro.

(02:48:36):
If you want something unreal,if you want something unrelated but
like a Jason place out themidnight because the second that
girl said hate, I was like,like, oh, we are in this realm.
Playing south at Midnightright after seeing that movie because
I hadn't started playing ituntil after I saw the movie was perfect.
I was gonna say this movie isa 10 out of 10.

(02:48:58):
I wrote an article for it.
Check it out on Blurdsiview.org check out everybody's post
like Spartan said.
Well, now, go ahead.
What did you say?
I was gonna say about south of Midnight?
Check out Tafari and Kira's.
And Lainey.
I think he's still goingthrough it.
Kira and I know Safar raptheirs up.
But yep, check it out.
Because that's that game.

(02:49:18):
That game.
The.
And forgive Me, I'm brain deadright now.
The company behind the gamereally deserves.
Yeah.
Compulsion Games.
Compulsion Games.
Thank y'all for the.
The free.
Copyright free soundtrack.
I cannot use, by the way.
That background music isgetting borrowed a.
Lot because that sound, thatsoundtrack will.

(02:49:38):
Have you going to have youlike o.
There was.
I ain't gonna spoil.
I'm not gonna spoil it.
But there's some.
There's some scenes in thatgame where I'm like, oh, I.
I gotta call that.
I gotta call mom for a second.
So, yeah, it's a great day forblack culture, which is every day
for me.
But please go out, see this film.
Show your support.
Go ahead.

(02:49:58):
Lady Manor.
Sorry.
Sinners officially has thesecond best Monday for an R rated
horror movie at the box office.
Let's go beat out the.
The recent iteration of it now.
Look how long that took.
Look how long that took.
It's only been out once.
That's crazy.

(02:50:21):
No, no, not even a week.
No, not a week.
Like my Monday showing was aearly invite only showing.
I don't even know if we counted.
So less than a week.
That starts on Thursday.
Also, whoever.
Whoever's black ass decisionwas to drop on Easter weekend.
I know y'all had to hear somesermons yesterday.
Boy, that.
I'm sorry, on Sunday.
I know y'all have some Easter Sunday.

(02:50:43):
Let me.
Mrs.
Fury actually said we gonnasee Sinners and it's Easter weekend.
I said, honey, it's not like that.
Stop.
Don't do that.
Hey, man, look, y'all.
Y'all dropped a whole animatedfilm about Jesus and it's still lost.
I mean, because.
Did you look at the movie?

(02:51:03):
Geographically inaccurate.
Jesus, you had pastors andpreachers at that movie theater just
the same.
So I don't even want to hear it.
Oh, they had to give.
They had to do.
They had to do homework forthe study.
And I'm trying to take it that God.
But no, all around fromproduction, behind the camera, in
front of the camera, costume design.

(02:51:25):
That cinematography is a beast.
That woman Autumn has workedon Loki and she's worked on some
other projects that we know about.
Fantastic job.
To everybody.
To the Couglers, Ryan and Zinsi.
Who is also a producer.

(02:51:46):
Can't get much better.
You.
You really, you.
If you're looking for reallygood storytelling from a different.
Like, if Spike Lee even said,this is a different kind of type
of horror genre, this is different.
And the co signs after cosigns, from Jamie Foxx to Pedro Pascal
to Ben Stiller, calling peopleout, right?

(02:52:06):
You got Blue Steel coming out.
He said, how was 60 million abad opening?
It's not.
They just hating.
And then Pedro.
Pedro was channeling hisInternet Mandalorian.
Just go watch the effing movie.
It's like, go see the effing movie.
Joel died to go see the movie.
I'm telling you this, man.

(02:52:27):
That's crazy.
Unbelievable.
Y'all would know Ben Stillerwas down if y'all watch Severance.
No, I'm crying down for aminute, sir.
I just got Apple tv.
Give a brother a second.
So check us out Thursday, weare live.
Tuesdays and Thursdays, 8pm Eastern.

(02:52:49):
YouTube and Twitch.
Be sure to, like, share, subscribe.
A lot of people tuned in forthis one.
I didn't know if they wouldbecause it's so soon.
We normally don't spoil amovie this soon, but this.
This had to be talked about.
This had to be discussed, andI'm glad we did it.
And this is our longestepisode yet.
We're going on three hours.
Thank you for tuning in, everybody.

(02:53:10):
Check us out Tuesdays,Thursdays, 8pm Eastern, live YouTube,
Twitch clips.
Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
Check out this entire crew toall their respective places.
I know Lady Mandalore did herrun Sunday on it.
She.
She was like, I am not waiting.

(02:53:30):
I kept it as spoiler free as Icould for Navy's sake.
But.
And trust me, she did awonderful job.
But tonight, like, whenSpartan was the.
When Spartan said.
When Spartan said, I didn'tget to see it yet.
And I'm like, no, he won't mind.
I know Spartan.
He won't mind because.

(02:53:53):
Because I know he'll go see it.
So this is one.
This is definitely one for the books.
We will see you guys Thursdaywith a special guest.
Ain't no telling what elsewe're gonna be talking about until
then.
We will see you guys until.
Go show your support.

(02:54:14):
Drop, like, subscribe.
Drop little dimes in there, whatever.
We will see you guys Thursday.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Coogler.
Thank you to the amazing teamover at Centers.
Thank you to Coogler's lawyerand agent for running that game.
Lawyer especially.
They ran that game.

(02:54:34):
Thank you.
Don't give me baby.
Get another clip.
You have to be invited infirst, baby.
Bye.

(02:54:59):
Snake.
Are you okay?
Snake.
Snake Sa.

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