Unveiling the Thunderbolts: Marvel's Complex Anti-Hero Team

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for the shadow realm?
Y' all should never act hard all.
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sitters just don't ask me whatmy pen is like they know that I'm
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but these interviews don't end right?
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Starting a war with thesestars you won't get far?
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So we are here tonight to talkabout a couple of things and here
to join us is my very ownsecond hand command lady Mandalore.
Here she is.
What's going on?
Hi.
Hi, everybody.

(09:14):
How are you doing this evening?
I can only, I can only fix it once.
Someone's here.
Hello.
Yeah, man, it's great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How you been?
How you doing?
Oh, I don't know.
Episodes of Andor, so.
Oh, you're not alone.
You're not alone.

(09:35):
Like, before I knew it, I'mlike, wait, I was supposed to do
some catching up to do and Iknow what happened.
I, I lit, I, yeah, I literallysat in the bed and next thing I know
it's 2 in the morning.
I woke up and I'm like, oh,let me take my glasses off and go
back to sleep.
And then I woke up to get overfrom work and I'm like, where is

(09:56):
my phone?
Oh, I didn't plug anything up.
I didn't watch anything.
I, I, there was no, there wasno way you y' all asking me to watch.
Is it an hour?
Each one's an Out?
You asking me?
Yeah, for three additionalhours after I get home from work.
Look, it's a lot.
I gotta go to the gym.
I gotta do my laundry.

(10:17):
I gotta wash my hair.
I gotta wash myself.
Like, I feed my cat, medicatemy cat.
It's a handful.
I don't know why they said.
I don't know why they said,let's go ahead and release four.
Four episodes or threeepisodes a week?
Like, that's, like, it's been much.
Relax, Relax.

(10:38):
Like, what are you.
Y' all don't have nothingcoming up after this?
Y' all have nothing coming upafter this?
What was the reason?
Thunderbolts is already out,so I don't know.
I don't know what you'retrying to beat.
And it's streaming.
Y' all don't have.
Y' all don't have anything.
There's nothing else on.

(10:58):
There's nothing else on for meto watch on Disney.
I mean, I don't have kids.
What about the people that,you know, have disposable income?
Yeah, we could use them.
I can take my money back.
I'm just saying help me tohelp you.
It's.
It's become.
It's almost become my Fridaynight watch.

(11:22):
It has to for this particular season.
Yeah.
Because I'm like.
I'm like.
I'm engaged.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm engaged.
But it's three hours ofengagement that I need.
Necessary.
I.
I'm real talk.
No, Cap, I need to watchepisodes five and six because I know

(11:43):
I fell asleep after four.
So now.
Now I got six hours I gotta watch.
Oh, man.
So now.
Now what?
And we're adults.
We have to.
Adult.
I have to.
Why?
I'm not falling asleep to you.
I want to be entertained overa longer course of time.

(12:08):
Oh, that's interesting to know.
I know these names beengetting tossed around lately.
Deadline reporting theThunderbolts director is going to
direct the MCU X Men.
Yeah, I want to see how theseplay out.
Like I said, names are beingthrown around, and that's the latest
name I've heard.
Was.
Was that director's name beingthrown around?

(12:34):
I'm not allowed to say.
Oh.
Oh, wait.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We spoke earlier, and I wasjust like, do it.
And you like, I can't.
And I'm like, but you thoughtabout it.
I will say, lovely human.
And upon further research, Ireally wish he was.

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He was doing that job.
I really wish.
Because he.
He did an episode of Lovecraft Country.
I did not realize that he didthe first episode.
He did the first episode.
All the more reason.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Ah, Spartan.
He's.
He's back in the Spartans inthe back of the ship.

(13:18):
Hi.
We didn't do it.
I swear to God.
For.
We got kids, ma' am.
I give up on sleep.
That's.
And that.
I'm sorry that you've madethat life decision.
You also have.
You also have cats.
And again, I don't understandhow you keep furballs.
But anyway.

(13:41):
I love him.
Cats are evil, vindictive, little.
Anyway, how y' all doing?
They can be.
You know that.
You know that, lady, theycan't be.
They're good.
They're good judges of character.
I'm not gonna argue that one.
I'm not gonna.
Are they cat scratching?
Cats?

(14:02):
Automatic claws are greatcharacters, man.
I just have bad.
I just don't like cats.
Cats don't like me, and Idon't like them.
Yeah, me, I don't hate cats.
I'm just not.
My cousins had cats and theywould purposely put their cat on
my back, and I hated itbecause they're like, oh, no, he's
not gonna run.
I'm like, yeah, he's gonnahang on to my shirt.

(14:24):
I don't want that.
You have an animal on my bodythat I don't.
That part absolutely got like, relax.
I don't trust for everybody.
No, no.
Yes.
Cats will look you dead in theeye and knock something over and

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then be like, the.
What, this little.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Go ahead.
In my face.
He's sitting on.
On my little trunk thing.
I got a Batman cup that.
That changes the scene when you.
When the cup gets hot.
My favorite cup.
This little right here.

(15:07):
Looks you dead in the face ashe does it, doesn't he?
I.
I did not.
I.
I swear to God I didn't hit him.
You thought about it.
His little ass around in this house.
He owed me money.
See, that's why I don't trust cats.
Cats will sit there and testyou and then be like, you will not
do anything about it and walk off.

(15:30):
We have a very clearunderstanding now.
Absolutely.
I don't know what got in your ass.
Oh, man.
Our very own griot of horrorgig by heart is in the building.
That's why I'm a dog lover.
Doing things.
Me too.
Look, dogs be stupid, too.

(15:51):
They chew through.
Yes.
They chew.
They destroy.
And that's why dogs be put out.
Dogs can be mischievous.
I ain't gonna hold you.
But at the end of the day,they're not little bastards, like
cats.
That husky earns it.
That husky earns its keep.
Whenever somebody comes by andhe turns into Cujo.

(16:14):
A wild Jojo.
Now we gotta wait for the wild obi.
Oh, he's asleep right now, literally.
This is how we know a wild obisn't there.
Spartan will be looking at us,and all you hear is.
He think.
Thankfully, he is on an earlybedtime, so let's see how this works
out.

(16:35):
Yeah.
So, like, somebody in theaudience spots him first.
It was like, oh, wild ob.
And I'm like, where?
Oh, there he is.
It's the.
It's the chuckling that gets me.
You just see him just randomlystart laughing.
I'm like, and he's around.
Y' all are trying our hardestto get those.
To get those balls pop up.
Mine actually just did for no reason.

(16:56):
I don't know why.
Oh, my goodness.
So I know we.
It's been a week.
We are actually down after today.
We have two more episodesbefore the season is over already.
Yeah, time flies.
It does now.
Who's.
Now, that's not to say thatyou people won't get, like, a surprise

(17:18):
pop up from us when some ofthese movies drop, because.
Oh, you will.
Like, only difference is we'rejust like, now we got time.
Got time.
Because when.
When there's going to be twoparticular films this summer that
drop and, yeah, we talkingabout them.

(17:40):
We just.
Oh, yeah, we going to see him.
We.
We going to see him literallytwo weeks apart.
That's crazy.
This is when I wish we allreally lived close because we would
just bug out in the whole theater.
Oh, yeah.
I need.
I'm going to need, like, nine tickets.
Thank you very much, good sir.
That's when that AMC and thoseRegal Club things where you can get

(18:02):
a free movie ticket everyweek, that's where.
That's where that starts topay off.
I'm not gonna lie.
Oh, no.
It.
I definitely at this point,because you can do that as a regular
and you could do that.
Wait, is that imax?
Is it a week or a day?
No, mine.
I'm.
I'm with Cinemark, so mine isevery month.
Okay.
But I can still buy ticketsonline and they waive the online

(18:25):
fees.
I bought tickets for me, mywife, and my little one to go see
Thunderbolts.
Ah.
That would have been close to$60 because you figure 18, plus the
fees and.
No, that's all up $22.
Not bad.
22.

(18:46):
I was like, I like those numbers.
Continue so AMC gives youthree movies per week.
Okay.
For 24.
That's not bad.
Thing or whatever.
Is it the perfect.
Is it an AMC plus thing?

(19:07):
I don't know.
I was last I was in the theaters.
They were.
They were.
Whatever.
You can do up to three moviesper week and.
And that could include Timex.
Nice.
Exactly.
And so it pays for itself inone movie every month.
In like to me was a no brainer.
It is.
I can't be mad about that.

(19:32):
She's taking her theaterplaying like you guys are messing
up.
I need.
I need answers.
Listen, you know what?
It's just me though.
Like I don't have.
So it's not.
It don't pay off for me.
And I'm not gonna see.
Yes, you're.
You're seeing more than twomovies per month, are you?
Well, technically, no.

(19:55):
The only movie that I've seenthat that would count towards it.
Outside of that, I honestlyhave not been to the movies lately
and I love going to the moviesthat just happen.
I know.
So I'm very.
I'm very surprised.
Okay.
Because like if you're atleast seeing two movies a month,
it pays for itself.
Well, it's.
I mean, we got lucky.
We got lucky.

(20:15):
This round between centers and thunderbolts.
Oh, dang.
It dropped within a month of itself.
So.
Yeah.
Signed up for a list becausegot four movies.
Four movies per week.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm sorry, I was looking thatup for.
See, for me, it sounds good,but my timing, it wouldn't.

(20:38):
That's what it is, the timing.
Because now I'm like, I havethe opportunity.
I have the tickets.
I don't have the opportunity.
It's like.
Because I'm either preppingfor the show, in between like Tuesday
and Thursdays and Mondays, I'mprepping for the show.
So unless I go on a Fridaynight, Saturday night, which I did

(21:00):
with Operation Ghost Protocol.
I was gonna say the way Icould sneak Obi and Zuri in the movies
now when it's just us two, us three.
They'Ll sleep.
Too bad.
No, Obia, Obi did not sleepthrough thunderbolts.
He sat there and stayed up andwatched it.
I mean, he was.

(21:20):
He was laughing his tail offat all.
At mo.
At weirdest parts.
But he was up.
Listen, at least he wasn't crying.
Oh, no, he loves.
He.
If it.
If it's flashy and it's.
If it's flashy and it's loudand things are moving.
He's intrigued.
I will Say.
I will say in.
In.

(21:40):
It was a post earlier today.
What's going on, Lizzie?
It was a post earlier todayabout the scene from Thunderbolts
that I mentioned earlier thisweek about the scene where Yelena
is.
You know, I'm all alone, Daddy.
And.
And it was like if you were afather at his.

(22:01):
That is a different type ofpain because you're just like.
You hear her say it, and itpulls your heartstring.
And then they show Alexi'sface, and as.
And it makes it worse, andyou're just like, damn it.
And it doesn't help that yourkid is right there next to you and
then he looks up at you.

(22:22):
Yeah.
I need to talk to certain people.
James Gunn, you're on thatlist because.
Good Lord, no.
The crown jewel was Obilooking up and then going, dad.
Exactly what he was doingthose type of movies.

(22:46):
And I'm just like, it's notbecause I'm a.
I'm.
I'm that type of fire.
I am that type of father.
It's just.
Now you're tugging at heartstrings.
Yes.
James Gunn, like I said,you're on the top of that list.
Because I still look at volumethree with just like, yo.

(23:11):
I have not.
Seen it since it came out.
I'm just like, ah.
I'm like, it doesn't.
It doesn't hurt any less now,does it?
But it's still God dangwrapped up in a nice, tiny bowl,
too.
I love it.
So, yeah, there's.
Other than that, man.

(23:32):
People are still reeling fromthe Met gala news, and.
And Lady Mandalore.
I finally got to see JanelleMonae's full reveal.
Dear Lord in heaven, BlueIvy's Internet.
I swear to God, she came outin full transition.
You could dang there.
Hit the Super 5.
Music playing.
All she needed was a pimp walk.

(23:53):
I was like.
I was like, oh, dear.
Halle Berry doing a raisingcane promotion.
I need to know how you make a.
A diamond out of tequila.
I'm very curious.
I'm still cute.
Yeah.
She had a diamond.

(24:15):
Yeah.
From.
Not out of.
From tequila.
Oh, from Tequila.
Okay.
Yeah, that's synthetic.
Yes.
Okay.
I remember Mythbusters on that.
And it was.
And it was.
It was 1800.
Okay.
Yeah.
So the good stuff.
The brand, not the money.

(24:36):
Yeah.
Brand.
She has the money to make surethat happens, so.
Oh, there's.
Oh, okay.
It can be done.
That's.
I was like, wait, the real stuff?
Are y' all talking synthetic?
I was like, I'm gonna.
Went back to MythBusters.
Because there was a wholeepisode about that.
How to make.
How to make diamond.
Yeah.
How do.
How to press time.
Synthetic diamonds into tequila.
It's a long effort.
I'll show you later.

(24:59):
I know.
I miss mythbusters.
The stuff they would do.
I'll send the link later.
Kira is malfunctioning.
I've got a bottle here and abottle there.
I just need to know it's possible.
I don't know.
Who.
I don't know.
Can you do it at home?

(25:19):
Is the question.
What mad scientist.
She knows.
Hey, look.
Even the eyepiece she waswearing was a working eyepiece.
That was cool.
And the guy that did that, I'mlike, oh.
And he only had.
What's.
What did he say?
He only had four days to make it.
Yep.
And he decided he wanted to flex.

(25:39):
That didn't do.
Talk about con crunch.
Like, you know, he's like,what are you doing?
Nothing else.
Just nice.
When you make it for Jono Monet.
But I.
But I will say this.
That as me learning more andmore about fashion, because look
at me.
What do I know about it?
I did not know what blackdandyism was, so I kind of had to

(26:02):
do my own research on it andnot realize that there is a whole.
Yeah.
Culture behind it.
And the more I went into it,the more I'm like, oh, well, no.
One of these napkins arepissed at us.
Really?
At this.
At this stage in the game.
At this stage in the game,when you hear black dandyism, just
put Coleman Domingo next tothe picture, to the description.

(26:24):
It just.
That man needs his owninterest song.
Because, like, he was.
This description he was given was.
I'm like, that's.
That's spot on.
That's very spot on.
If Michael John White can geta Black Dynamite intro, Colman Domingo
needs one himself in that samearea just when he walks in.

(26:46):
Yeah, that was.
That was an intense.
And you're still seeing picsthat didn't.
That you either didn't catchlive or whatever, you know, and it.
Oh, God.
It was okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jadino.
Oh, why hasn't even shown up yet?

(27:09):
What are we with the PurpleRain cover?
Oh, oh, oh, that's d.
That's.
That's the Dandies doing the Prince.
Yeah.
Like I said, that was.
That was a whole four hours ofdeep dead, deep dives and things
I didn't know about.
But no.
Yeah.
All right.
Had a point about that, Jenna.
I was like, where's.

(27:30):
Of all people that should haveshown up.
I Mean, we couldn't get onedude to show up.
Look up Wisdom, model, content creator.
Why was he.
Why?
How?
How.
I think you.
I think you mentioned that to me.

(27:50):
He wasn't invited.
Okay.
How.
How.
He should have been on the board.
He should have been on the board.
He should have been one of thefirst 10 people in.
Make that make sense.
We.
We helped the helpless.
All them white people neededat least 10 minutes with that man

(28:11):
and would have elevated their whole.
Because I'm gonna be honestwith you.
I.
I did kind of.
I did.
I did blow past those.
I wasn't.
I wasn't there.
I'm sure.
I'm sure there were some niceones, but they weren't.
They weren't that.
I'm just saying.
Okay, that.
That I can see why you're mad,so I can see why you mad.

(28:32):
Oh, you never seen Wisdom again?
Again?
This has been a whole.
This has been my Sesame streetlearning day.
Oh, no, you need.
You will love this.
Please add him.
You will love his content.
If you really are seriousabout, like, thinking about learning
about fashion, he.
Or not fashion.

(28:52):
It's always been fashion andhistory, because there's a lot of
other designers that reallydon't get mentioned.
So for me, it's more of ahistorical aspect than anything else.
Like I said, I don't knownothing about fashion.
I know people just tell mewhat to put stuff on.
I do it.
But no, stuff like that.
Like, what Wisdom has.
I'm like, oh, so you're kindof like, you know, the Dapper Dan's,
the.

(29:12):
You know, and that whole.
Basically.
Basically.
Basically.
If you look at the 1970s male,black male, and how they dressed.
Yeah, that's.
That's right there.
Like, what we've seen withZendaya, that was.
That was 70s, okay.
Because a lot of black women.
A lot of black women wouldwear, like, a lot of suits, and they

(29:34):
would, like.
They showed a picture of DianaRoss, and I'm like, I forgot she
had stuff like that.
Like that.
Yeah, you know, she was there.
Yeah, she was.
She was there.
She was.
20 years, she hasn't been there.
Oops.
Been there.
Sorry.
I'm like.
I'm like, Nate's like, Daniel Ross.
I said, why aren't y' allcovering this?
I had to see a picture.
Why aren't y' all covering this?
It goes.
And that's the thing.

(29:54):
I was taking away from this asI was watching you guys and kind
of going back and doing my own research.
The.
The lack of coverage, like, y'all Said there were more people there
and unless you're a certainmedia outlet, you're not gonna see
them or.
Or if somebody was just luckyenough to be there and snapping pictures
of everybody.
There were many more.

(30:16):
I was psyched out there.
I was cycling through threeYouTube channels just because when
Kira said Lizzo and I'm like, where?
Right.
They're not gonna cover her.
They.
Somebody did, but she's.
But Kira's seen it like maybe15, 20 minutes before I did.
And that's.
And that tells you a lot.

(30:37):
Exactly.
I had to look.
I don't know which outlet shewas looking at, but I was on a totally
different outlet.
I think I was on the.
I think I was on the actual Vogue.
I had the.
I had them.
And then I think it was a NewYork news coverage.
And then I can't remember whatthe third one was.

(30:58):
Something like Live StreamEntertainment or something.
Was the other one.
Is E still a thing?
I don't.
I don't watch.
I don't know.
I just remember.
I just remember Andre 2000carrying a big ass piano.
Then he turns around and says,oh, I'll drop an album.
Candy.
Candy brought that one to my attention.
She was like.
She was like a whole piano.
And I'm like, this man is out.

(31:18):
Here just doing side quests.
And I'm.
And I'm right.
This man said.
They said, I've conquered the flute.
I must now master the piano.
This man sat out there, cameout with the piano on his back and
then said, I dropped the albumat the same time.
Meanwhile, Damson Idris is outhere coming dressed as a whole race
car driver.
I'm like, who is.

(31:38):
Is this with the reveal?
And I'm like, he did a.
It was a whole.
It was a whole thing.
They did a.
They ended up doing like acommercial, like yesterday.
Is it.
And they showed the whole thing.
Oh, wow.
Is it bad?
I caught.
My mind went to Dungeons andDragons when I saw Andre with the
piano, with the.

(31:59):
With the helmet.
And I'm like, please, oh, God,don't come out.
Don't anybody come out here asa barbarian.
Please don't.
Don't mess this up.
So my mindset went.
My mind, look, that's.
My mind went, okay, I'm stillgonna watch it when it comes out.
I'm still getting Andre'spiano album when it comes out.
I saw a beard and I saw a rogue.

(32:20):
I was expecting a fighter, abarbarian, or a cleric at this point.
I mean, technically.
See, see, I'm not the only one.
Oh, my God.
See?
Yeah, there it is.

(32:41):
I am not.
I am just glad I'm not crazy.
I am glad I'm not the onlyones who mindset went that way.
No, but seriously, like, the.
I.
I think we might do thatprobably next season.
Just literally do like a netgala cover.

(33:03):
I.
I mean, we do everything else.
Why not?
And we do everything else,including petitioning for that Ironheart
trailer.
And that's next month.
Yes.
Yeah, supposedly.
This is what I'm thinking is happening.
That's crazy.
This is what I think ishappening now.

(33:25):
The D23 Expo was just a couplemonths ago, and somebody leaked it.
Now.
The only thing I can think of.
And it's.
It's, you know, like, sittingfrom the side type leak.
So it's not even good quality.
It's like bootleg quality.
The only thing I could thinkis they're doing a recut of the.

(33:49):
Or putting together the full trailer.
That's the only thing I canthink of.
But you have this.
But this close.
So.
Yeah.
Your time window is, like,closing fast.
Bad.
Because it premieres, what,the 24th?
Yep.
Yeah, it premieres the 24th.
You have less than six.

(34:09):
30.
Less than 30 days now.
Yep.
I would say now's the time youput out the teaser, then you follow
up to the trailer.
At least give the teaser.
But again, it's this whole.
If you're going to do recuts,recuts should have been done at the
time with the Thunderbolts roll.
The Thunderbolt press tour wasabout to come out.

(34:29):
That was literally over amonth and a half ago is where.
And they're.
They're pretty much.
And they're pretty much donewith their rollout.
Like, it's.
They're done.
It's been.
It's been a week, you know, sowe should.
We technically should beseeing something.
Obviously not tomorrow, but atleast by next week or the week after,

(34:49):
there.
Should be something in theDisney Chamber.
But again, it's this.
It's this whole thing about Ironheart.
It scares me in the same waythat Secret wars made me a little
worried because Secret Wars.
Secret wars got.
Don't get me wrong, Secretwars got TV promos, but they didn't
get the same level as, say, Thunder.
Oh, you mean Secret Invasion.

(35:11):
I'm sorry.
Sorry, guys.
Secret Invasion.
My bad.
It didn't get the same promo.
What you got?
So it's.
It's coming out June 24th.
Right.
Okay.
Six episodes.
It overlaps with the premiereof Fantastic Four.

(35:31):
That's.
That's the only thing that Iwill give them grace on if they figure
out a way to get this girl totie into the Fantastic Four.
That's the only thing.
And I don't know how theywould do it because she don't touch
them anywhere.
Right, Right.

(35:51):
They still do without.
I mean, there's.
There's.
There's the leak of Mephistobeing in this thing, so.
And then there's opposite East Coast.
There's opposite east coast programming.
Yeah.
But you can have ads running.
You can have differential adsrunning east and west.
Exactly.
Like you could have ads forIronheart running on the west coast
and then switch.

(36:12):
And then switch with Fantastic Four.
So, yeah, you'll still get thesame coverage, but they'll never
overlap at the same time.
You are bringing attention toboth ips, but right now, the only
one we know about is Fantastic Four.
And at this point, ifFantastic Four drops from the trailer,
then we already know wherethey're putting their money at.

(36:32):
Which sucks, because even now,Lilo and Stitch is getting their
run already.
Shout out to the media creatorbehind that.
So they.
They.
They've had their trailer, andthen they didn't.
I don't even think I've seenthe trailer run anymore, other than
outside of what we did.
Right.
But.

(36:52):
But Stitch has been popping up everywhere.
Stitch has been runningthrough the Disney universe and giving
Mickey Mickey heart attacks.
The billboard for the NewAvengers, AKA the Thunderbolts, was
the.
The New Avengers billboard.
Just went.
Just this, just yesterday.

(37:14):
Stitch is busting through thatbillboard, like, through that.
I'm like, he's popping up already.
Yep.
I mean, we asked for this.
We did ask for that, but.
And, And.
And what?
They've done nothing else butjust show Stitch popping up in different
things.
That's it.
This is an opportunity for youto drop the teaser for Ironheart

(37:36):
at least by tomorrow.
Also, roll out a trailer in a week.
Also, you people out therethat are doing clicks, that do stuff
for clicks, say your stuff isfan made.
I am so tired of nine to 10 people.
Don't do their research.
Come back and say, new trailer.
No, it's fan made.
You can tell they rehashedscenes and you're trying.

(37:58):
It's like, don't come out, sitthere and say, new just for clicks.
Please do your research.
That's all.
I have seen so many fan made.
I'm like, this is not the.
I can tell looking at it.
This is not the Ironheart trailer.
Why are you showing me scenesfrom Wakanda Forever?
Right?
That's the thing.
And then you show.
You show me scenes fromWakanda ever, and then you input

(38:20):
some actual scenes from Ironheart.
And then you input some.
I'm like, that looks.
I.
I can pick up cgi.
Like.
Like the AI stuff.
I can pick that up.
That ain't it.
That's like.
That's not the right one.
And like you said, same scenes.
It's the same.

(38:41):
It's the same rehearsed rehashscenes of her putting on the prototype
suit about old boy.
And now all of a sudden, now.
We mentioned Mephisto, youtook the Sizzler reel of what's to
come and in.
In superimpose it inside yourfan made trailer.
That's what you did.
Yeah.

(39:01):
If you want to do a jobapplication to Disney, I mean, there
are easier ways.
Like visions.
Do it there.
At least we'll appreciate it.
At least you might get a view.
Even might get a deal out of it.
Just saying.
Yeah.
What's wrong here?
I'm just.
I'm.
I'm so confused.

(39:22):
Ryan.
Cougar is a part of this whole thing.
What the.
Why aren't you cross the streams.
What are we doing?
Blah blah, now.
Across the street?
Please, just.
Just have him drop a little.
Oh, you know.
No, I'm saying when.

(39:43):
When riri is.
Is in.
In.
You know, I heart.
You know, she just.
She's gonna be like rocking itand doing all she needs to do in
order to get true.
She needs.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Is that it?
It's because.
It's because his ride is sohigh right now.
Is that it?
His ride was.

(40:06):
Ryan, I need you to.
I need you.
Put.
Put your.
Put your stamp on it.
My guy, please.
Is it.
Is it bad that it.
Is it bad that maybe thatthey're just.
He's just wanting to pushcenters as far as it can go before
he goes back to Marvel.
I mean, he's already there.
He's.
I mean.
Well, yeah, but I'm just saying.

(40:29):
In that part I would get.
That part I would get.
I would say.
Okay, your.
Your dance card is pretty fullright now, but I'm going to need
you here.
This particular window right now.
I need to.
So we can get this thing spinning.
You know?
I mean.
I mean, because X Files ain'tgoing nowhere.

(40:50):
Trust me, Fox is.
Fox is slowly sitting on thatIP waiting on your ass.
But X Files not going anywhere.
So at the same time, just.
What's.
What's wrong?
Kira?
No, no.
I meant.
No, because the proximitymedia is also a part of this whole
thing along with Marvel.
Entertainment.

(41:10):
They're both.
Sorry, they're combined together.
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
Oh, I forgot about that.
So, yeah, what we're saying isthere are a black.
A lot of black creatives shoutout to black girl nerds.
There are a lot of blackcreatives who are really promoting

(41:31):
Ironheart right now.
They're pushing for this.
They're showing the screenshots.
They're showing some of thesteals that's been like an Empire
magazine.
They're showing everythingthat they need to be.
You know, it was like, whyaren't we getting this?
Where is the trailer?
Very much as Cardi b say, whatwas it even for?
You know.

(41:52):
I will never get that out ofmy head.
So we need that.
We.
We need.
We.
We know it's there.
We know.
We.
You've had plenty of reshoots.
We understand.
We're not worried about the reshoots.
We want the trailer.
We need the hype.
We need this train that we areon to keep rolling.

(42:14):
Exactly that part.
Shout out.
Shout out.
Shout out to Gang Friend.
Being in this.
I didn't realize Gang Friendwas gonna be in this.
Manny Montana, I need, I needyou to come down to the front and
just talk real slow into a micor something and just look longingly
in.
Into the camera.
I would love to haveconversations with you through the

(42:36):
TV screen when you helppromote this, because that's gonna
help significantly.
Please, Mr.
Montana.
So we, we just.
We want this to happen.
We know it'll happen,especially with.
With our influence.
We just have an influence.
And I don't mean just blurredour view.
I mean us as fans who haveseen what we want to see, we know

(43:00):
what it is that we like.
We're riding extremely highoff of south of Midnight and Centers,
and we're just like.
We're like, you're right there.
You're just.
You're right there.
All you gotta do is just.
The Knicks is looking good.
I'm like, come on.
Like this, this a lot.

(43:22):
Don't bring that up right now.
Don't, don't, don't.
Don't worry.
The.
The Knicks will be the Knicks.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
No.
That's why I stop being.
That's why I stop being a fan.
The Knicks will always be the Knicks.
I'm sorry.
Look, I'm a Bulls fan, soevery time the Knicks start winning
and start losing, I, I, Ilaugh inside.

(43:43):
Get your ass out of here.
Because even though I'm not a fan.
I still can't stand no Bulls.
Hey, I'm a Bulls fan.
Through the good times, thebad times, with or without Jordan.
You are a Knicks fan.
You are a Knicks fan.
I.
I question your judgment sometimes.

(44:04):
Before you jump on me, who'syour team for life.
And don't get me wrong.
Like I said, I'm not a Nickfan no more.
But still you just talk about the.
Bulls is triggering sound like cheese.
Don't do it.
And don't bring up the.

(44:24):
Oh, no, it's just the Indian pieces.
Okay.
Don't forget the heat.
Don't bring the balls.
No, no, don't you do it.
Don't you do it.
Don't do it.
Not doing this.
I can't laugh out loud.
Swear to God, I can't laughout loud.
I'll wait.
I'll wake Gobi up right now.
I can't laugh out loud.

(44:45):
I will wake up.
Okay, Lor.
So I.
I will.
I will say this.
We.
I will say this.
We do have a teaser, and we dohave a trailer, but it's not of what
we want.
Well, one of them is.
One of them is.
One of them is.

(45:08):
So I.
The first.
The first one is the teaser.
The first one is the teaser.
All right.
And it's.
It's a Peacemaker, season two.
It's the full trailer.
Drops tomorrow, but we have ateaser tonight.
Nice.
Nice.
I don't get it.

(45:28):
We saved the world.
I thought everyone wouldfinally treat us like heroes.
Bring me Peacemaker.
We haven't always been greatpeople, but.
We are the 11th street kids.
No one will ever break us apart.
You ready for the nextadventure, pal?

(45:56):
Quick little teaser.
We see Rick Flag seniors in there.
So that's gonna be.
Looks like that's gonna be interesting.
So what happened to my son?
What happened to my son incourt de Maltis.
Yeah, we had to do that about that.
It's not what you think.

(46:17):
Did you kill my son?
Yes.
Then it is what I think.
I think that's what just opensfire and just really aims for that.
It's like, you shot me.
You killed my son.
I mean, I understand that, but still.
You shot me.
No.
Season one of Peacemaker wasvery unexpected, very fun, very good

(46:38):
soundtrack.
Once again, James Gunn putshis footprint handprint in.
In.
In DC's case.
I'm not even going there.
Never mind.
What power record store doeshe still keep going into and finding
this music is my question.
He's just got good taste in.
In power ballads.

(46:58):
He really does.
And.
And shout out to Wigwambecause y' all got resurrected last
year.
Y' all got resurrected last year.
Yep.
Boy, they went back on tour.
They was getting ready to quit.
It was getting ready to wrapit up.
It was like this.
This show revived.
We about to go get the last ofthese dollars.
I got a mortgage to pay.

(47:20):
I mean.
So.
Yeah.
So the full season or the fulltrailer for season two is supposed
to drop tomorrow.
Finally get to see that.
See, like, we've been waiting this.
See this year.
This year is gun.
The year of the gun.

(47:40):
It's the year of the gun.
He's had creature commandos.
He's about to have peacemakerdrop August 21st.
He's getting ready to haveSuperman drop in July.
Lanterns is gonna be.
They're working on Lanternsright now.
Right now.
Yeah.
No.
Okay, so Atlantis is next year.

(48:04):
Heavy that, man.
I wouldn't get my green ring.
I'm glad.
I'm glad he let go of the hairdye because it's like.
I'm like, dude, it's gonna.
The gray is gonna beat the dieat this point.
Don't.
Don't.
As much as you're workingright now, don't even worry about
it.
Like, I seen.

(48:24):
I seen it.
I was like.
It went.
It went from black to.
To black to white, and I'mlike, that's not James.
Oh.
All I can say is exhibit A.
Just the dye job ain't evenworth it.
It's not.
Just let it go.
Spartan's gonna be the ship'sgriot in a minute.

(48:48):
Like the Australian outback.
I'm just.
This is not salt and pepper.
This is just somebody thatjust over did it on seasoning.
This is what this looks like.
I mean, you are.
I did not ask for this.

(49:10):
No, the crazy part is,literally, it's like.
It's like going from done andnot done.
Yeah, that's how the hairgrows, baby.
That's how your hair grows.
She just said, bless yourheart very nicely.

(49:30):
Thank God I got just salt andpepper, because Lord have mercy.
Like, and I've let my hairgrow out.
You know, my wife, like, youhave great in your hair.
I said, no, I don't.
It's barely in my mustache.
It's just in the beard.
That's why I said.
That's why I said, I don'teven try to do a dye job.
That's my location.
Well, we could dye your hair.
No, no.
I started seeing it.

(49:51):
I'm just like, even.
Even hell sponsored.
He was like, what the hell isthat on my Face.
Let it happen, my guy.
Just let it be.
Oh, it's not too far off.
Father Time is undefeated.
It will come.
You and you in the game now, baby.
We still make it look good,but you in the game now.
Just let it go.

(50:14):
Just learn.
Just learn to love the gray.
Love the gray, or silver,whatever they call it.
Yeah, they don't.
You don't want to be like someof them.
Them uncs out there, orsitting up there still trying to
hang on to them little hairsthey got with their finger waves
and the gold chains.
I'm like, yo, yo, stop.
You got more.

(50:34):
You got more oil.
You got more oil product inyour hair than your Cadillac does.
He said, smelling like Ju.
Oh, God.

(51:04):
Not you, Davey.
We know you like.
It's there in the beard.
It's accepted.
Ah, crap.
That's why it lasted.
You got jupe, you got musk.
You got.
What's the other one?
People still rock.

(51:24):
Stetson.
That was the one Stetson thatseems to be rocked.
Oh, man, it's.
That was my dad.
I ain't gonna lie.
Oh, yeah.
Jakar.
Oh, my God.

(51:44):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Obi didn't make it.
Obi was like.
I heard my name being called,and here I am.
Shaking.
Salt, pepper, fried.
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie about that.
Oh, this is the front of my hair.
I'm not even showing the backof my hair.

(52:05):
Oh, wow.
Old Spice.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I was never.
I was never a fan of the OldSpice stuff.
I am.
I'm a fan.
I am a fan of the swagger.
I am a fan of that.
But not.
Not.
Not the old.
The Old Spice Musk deodorant.

(52:26):
No.
Oh, no.
The Flamble deodorant.
No.
Yeah.
No, I've seen that deodorantcatch fire on somebody.
How they got near.
They were near an open candle,and they were, like, covered in it.
And so as they were walkingpast the open flame, it just.
Improv.
Just caught his arm.
And next thing you know.
Oh, no.
Jovan Musk.

(52:52):
Classic aftershave.
Oh, not the aftershave.
That aftershave will have youscroll that aftershave.
I have you crying.
These are bottles that sat onmy father's dresser.
I swear to God.
Bruce.
Bruce.
I never heard that.
Oh, my God.
Between Jovan Must Brute and.

(53:13):
And Old Spice, my dad waslike, here, put some of this cologne
on me and my brother lookingat it like, we gonna smell old.
I'm sorry.
Seriously.
There was Jovan Musk.
Oh, yeah.
I thought.
Yeah.
Funny.
No, it was a Whole.
That's another one.
I've never.
That was.
That was.
That was the Avon lady catalog.
When your mom neededsomething, sell something, and your

(53:34):
dad didn't want to go to the store.
Al said, don't thank you.
The Old Spice since 06.
Massively nuts.
I.
Yo, I remember my sister.
I remember years, years later,my sister go to my dad's house like,

(53:55):
daddy, why you still got thisStetson on the dresser?
Are you even wearing this anymore?
You like?
I ain't wore that in a while.
Get rid of the bottle.
That bottle.
That bottle out.
That bottle will outlastcertain buildings.
I feel like the nextgeneration is just a bunch.
It's gonna be a lot of peoplehanging on to Axe Body.

(54:17):
It is.
Oh, X.
Right.
Yes.
Because some people use thatfor deodorant.
Horrible.
Horrible.
It's fine.
It's not.
No, it's really not that.
It makes you make this faceevery time they go.
It's just every single time.

(54:38):
It's like you.
It's like you still gotta puton dealing with body spray.
The body spray don't mask funk.
Funk is undefeated againstanything and everything.
You just can't spray on thatbody spray and not wash your ass
and think nobody gonna notice.
We all know this.
Bama.
What did he say?

(54:58):
I do have smack.
He said, Baba said.
I like.
After all spikes have to say.
Now, when I used to shave, Idid have that.
That.
That will wake you up.
Jesus Christ.
The burn will wake you up.
Oh, my gosh.

(55:20):
What the.
Is that a real thing?
I thought you were having astroke or the.
Is canoe.
There is a.
There's a young lady by thename Tara Michelle who's.
Who's out here in thesepodcast Trees.
Shout out to Tara Michelle.
She does.
And I'll send you ladies the link.
She does reviews on perfumes.

(55:41):
And when I first met herthrough D.C.
i thought she just had a bunchof, like, I thought it was liquor
bottles, like, behind her on a.
On a.
On a.
And I said, tara, what is.
What is behind you?
And she said, it's perfume.
I review.
That's her.
That's her YouTube channel.
She reviews perfumes, alldifferent types of perfumes and stuff.
And so I'm like, if you wantsomebody, she'll tell you, like,

(56:04):
the types of perfumes she.
The pheromones and all that stuff.
Interesting.
Yeah.
She's dope.
She's dope.
She's dope.
She does a show with.
With.
With Jared Flanagan.
They call her One Man, One Woman.
Really, really cool Podcastnot one of those man versus women
podcasts.
Thank God it's not a red pill podcast.

(56:25):
So shout out to.
To Jared and Tara.
One man, one woman.
But, yeah, I'll get her.
I'll get her information.
I'll send it to you ladies like.
So if you look for niceperfume, can you give me.
Can you give me lavender and eucalyptus?
So.
And she said it's one she's had.
She's had for years becauseit's expensive, but it's.
It's a very good quality.

(56:45):
It's strong.
It doesn't, like, the scentdoesn't fade or something.
Bama.
Yeah.
She's serious about the fragrance.
She's for real about it.
Emma.
Really?
What's special, sir?
Okay.
No, he's crush.
Oh, my God.
Like the soda.

(57:07):
No.
Crud.
There was a.
There was a male version and afemale version, and that was like.
Like five years.
Five to six years ago.
No, that was curved.
That was curved curves.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah.
Wow.
Laney, I know you went pastmany goddamn perfume making that
face, that curve, everybody.

(57:27):
First of all, I'm not really aperfume person.
I literally.
With an only.
Was it Mark.
Mark Jacobs?
Beautiful.
Something like that?
There's one that is, like, myfavorite, and I can't remember what
it's called.
I think it's Marc Jacobs.
Beautiful.
But other than that, I'm notreally a perfume person.
There wasn't.
There was an Obama and aMichelle one that was pretty good.

(57:47):
Oh, well, that's forcommemorative purposes, though.
I would definitely get it.
As they go get it.
Or how did Marlon say.
How did.

(58:09):
Fosace.
How do you spell.
You don't even spell F O, R.
Oh, no.
Oh, yeah.
John was from D.C.
wait, what do you have?
What do you have?
My wife has that.
My wife has that one.
That one?
Yeah, that's.
This is my favorite.
Yeah, that's.
That's my wife's favorite.

(58:30):
I know because I've had to buyit for at least twice.
And he had a happy wife.
This is my favorite.
I don't miss those Sephoratrips at all.
There was.
There is certain knowledgeyou're not supposed to have.
That's like walking throughthat spot.
Citizen.
I know too much.

(58:52):
I'm getting a education today.
Y' all are educating me.
I have no idea about these clones.
There was one.
There was one.
Kelly got me.
I can't remember the name of.
To save my life right now.
Comes in a blue bottle.
Some fancy name.
I gotta ask her.
Oh, we go find your mama.

(59:14):
Jovan.
No, I'm kidding.
Oh, dear God.
I know that.
No, I know.
My cousins used to wear that.
And that smells.
That smells like three skunksin a trash can.
No.
Oh, my God.
No.
But that's such a black name.

(59:34):
Jovan.
Who.
Who wears something that says musk.
There is nothing attractiveabout the word musk in anything.
Wait, Bev said again.
What is wrong with curve?
A lot.
A lot.
Sir, we're gonna elevate.
We're gonna bring you up with us.
You might be dragged up, butyou're coming.

(01:00:00):
Oh, my God.
All right.
Kelly.
Kelly must have heard.
Dang.
My voice must travel through walls.
Kelly said, I got you, Chanel.
Blue.
The blue dove.
Yeah.
Kelly is listening through the walls.
My phone.
She said, I got you Blue Day.
Chanel.
Oh, okay.

(01:00:21):
Even Obi was just like.
See, there was no need reasonto even send me away for that.
Oh, he need.
Well, he wakes.
I need him to run out.
Run out the rest of his energy.
So you go back to sleep anyway.
But no.
That's what she got me.
That smells great.
But no.
I think if you put him.
He looked tired.
I think if you put him down again.
Put him back down.
If I put him back down.

(01:00:41):
Okay.

(01:01:02):
All he saw was opportunity.
And as you can see.
Gone.
They never shouldn't have letme go.
He was y.
He was making me y.
Because I saw him yawn so many times.
Oh, man.
So I don't know if my wife haswatched this movie, the Old Guard,

(01:01:23):
and I've caught pieces of it,the original, the first one.
But, I mean, the places that Icaught were action, you know, so
I'm like, oh, it's cool.
But it was so far into the.
Into it that I.
You know, if you're so farinto the movie, then I'll just watch
it from that point out.
And depends on me if I decideto go back and watch it from the

(01:01:44):
beginning.
But they do have.
They finally have the sequelgetting ready to drop, and I guess
we're gonna take a look atthis one right now.
Here we go.
Anytime now.
Hold on.

(01:02:04):
And.
Yeah, there it.
Is.
Oh, wait.
Never mind.
There you go.
How are you doing?
I'm at peace.
Didn't look that peaceful whenyou were.
Throwing that guy out the window.

(01:02:35):
Listen, sometimes quick isbetter than subtle.
For centuries, I've watchedyou fight to protect humanity while
forsaking your own kind.
I will destroy you andeverything you.

(01:02:57):
Stand for with a power youcan't even imagine.
Interesting.
Who is she?
She is the first of the immortals.
She Knows your histories, your relationships.

(01:03:20):
I am scared of what she iscapable of, Booker.
How do I find her?
You and your friends don'thave much time left.

(01:03:44):
Do you think she knows thatI've lost my immortality?
The thing that lives.
Lives forever.
We're playing right into ofher hands.
I don't have a choice.
One day you'll understand.

(01:04:04):
Every minute is a step towards death.
Then you're coming with me.

(01:04:33):
July gonna be busy as hell, right?
The Bride versus Atomic Atomic Blonde.
Yes, I dig it.
What's going on?
Juice?
Sweetie?
Gray, what's going on?
I'm so glad you could say thatbecause I.
Can I just call her not so sorry?
Because I don't want to say.
It's.
It's.
It's.

(01:04:54):
It's.
It's launch.
Which I failed in high school,but I still have a knack for it.
Right?
I failed it because I didn'tapply myself.
It was French.
I was regretting taking Frenchwhen I should have took Spanish.

(01:05:16):
No, but that does look good.
I.
I definitely need to go backand watch the first one.
Charlize Theron is probablyone of the few who seems to age pretty
well.
Yep.
I mean, she is South African, so.
She has the motherland workingin her favor pretty much.

(01:05:38):
So she's just.
Just one of.
Yeah.
Yeah, she is.
She's from South Africa.
Yeah, she's from the good part.
She's not.
She's not from the part.
She's not from the part.
The other one.
Not from the dark side.
Yeah, yeah.
With the water from south.
The nutrients.

(01:05:59):
Yeah, the other one that'sfrom South Africa.
Out.
Yeah, he's from the tainted part.
That.
That's.
That's the same.
That's from the same part where.
Never mind.
Not all of.
Not.
Not everyone can.
Can benefit from the motherland.
She happens that.

(01:06:19):
She obviously has her.
Her regiments that work.
It's called money.
But.

(01:06:45):
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Planet for gas ain't free the next.
Three and a half years.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, y' all can'teven make up your mind.
Anyway, we know that.
We know the Thunderbolts as adifferent team.
You know, they first appearedin Incredible Hulk in January of

(01:14:02):
1997, issue 448 or 449.
And this team consisted oftheir leader, Citizen v, Songbird
Mach 1, Songbird Mach 1, Vault.
And who else?
Citizen V.
Mach 1 Atlas.

(01:14:23):
That's the other one that'sabout the original.
So the original Thunderbolts.
The original Thunderbolts, Yeah.
Atlas Mach 1 Fixer, TechnoMeteorite, and Citizen V, if memory
serves, arrive.
Exactly.
And they were the new heroeson the ground.
This was shortly afterOnslaught, actually.
Onslaught and Heroes Reborn.

(01:14:45):
That's a whole other thing.
You thought you neededeverybody to take out Thanos.
Yeah.
Onslaught was a whole.
Another Onslaught.
Yeah, he was.
He.
Onslaught was the combinationof Magneto and Charles said.
Okay.
And.

(01:15:05):
Yeah.
It was a fusion that everybodythought about, but you did not want.
Yeah.
Especially with Charles beingin Xavier's head.
Yeah.
Huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Both consciousness in one body.
Yeah, it was.

(01:15:26):
You thought they would workwell together.
The master manipulator.
But Citizen V and his crew,they were the new heroes, since there
weren't any other ones around.
And by the end of the issue,you find out they are not who they

(01:15:47):
say they are.
Nope.
Citizen V turned out to beBaron Zemo.
Atlas turned.
Yeah.
Atlas turned out to be Goliath.
Not.
Not Bill Foster Goliath.
Not Black Goliath.
I know it's a thing, but runwith me.

(01:16:09):
Beetle was actually Mach 1 wasactually Beetle, which was a Spider
man, uh, villain and songbirdwho used to go by the name Screaming
Mimi.
That sound black.
Oh, the Masters of Evil.

(01:16:30):
Yeah.
So you be.
I think I do need to do.
I need to do a show based offof bars that are fictional but are
actually real.
Because I'm thinking of a barfrom Three's Company that's real.
That the.
That bar is real.

(01:16:50):
But there's been severaliterations since then of the Thunderbolts,
and basically, what theThunderbolts were just villains who
were trying to go straight orwere tasked with going straight.
And for the most part, it'sbeen successful.
And then that.
That changed to anti heroes.

(01:17:12):
And those.
The last iterations of theThunderbolts were led by Hawkeye
and Luke Case.
They're ex felons.
Yep.
But because they are heroesand they.
They know what that life islike to try to change their past.
So they will.
You know, they felt like theywere the best options to do that

(01:17:35):
at that point.
They.
They've had a Thunderbolts Redteam, which was Red Hulk, Elektra,
you know, and.
And Frank don't act.
Frank just likes to dowhatever you.
Frank, you don't.
It's just.
It was.
That was different.
But it's Frank.
It's Frank.
Like, you don't argue with Frank.

(01:17:55):
Yeah, yeah, we don't arguewith Frank.
Frank said he's gonna do it.
Just gonna do it.
Also, Agent Venom.
I forgot Agent Venom was partof that team.
Yeah.
So there are several people.
Iterations.
There are several iterationsof the team that we've already seen
Baron Zemo and Falcon andWinter Soldier.
And I Honestly, I.

(01:18:19):
I think if we didn't have thebig tie in for Doomsday and everything
else going on, that would haveprobably been a nice twist.
Yeah.
At the end of at theThunderbolts movie to have.
Even though it's Valentina in.
In doing the whole thing,she's the face card.

(01:18:41):
She's doing all the work.
Baron Zemo is probably stillmoving behind the scenes.
Oh, yeah, I would.
Especially for Falcon, theWinter Soldier.
Yeah, yeah.
He's still running thingsbehind the scenes.
If he's not in a rave somewhere.
I thought he was locked up by.
In a Wakanda.

(01:19:01):
I thought they took him backto Wakanda.
No, he.
He was supposed to head to Wakanda.
But keep in mind, at the endof Falcon Winter Soldier, it flashes
to him still at the raft.
And then if you notice, youcan still kind of see a silhouette
in Brave.
Well, spoiler, if you'repaying attention to Brave New World,
you actually still see him inthe raft.

(01:19:23):
So.
Yeah, I mean, it would.
There are.
And speaking of Falcon WinterSoldier, I have a problem with them
making Sharon.
Sharon the power broker.
And I know I'm not.
And I know I'm not alone,because the last time we seen Sharon
prior to this, she was.

(01:19:44):
She had went working for.
She went working for Stark.
Yeah, she got a job.
She was interviewing in Stark Industries.
And matter of fact, Pepperhired her.
Maybe she's a scroll.
That's what we wanted tothink, isn't she?
But that isn't that how shegot the Stark tech to those.

(01:20:08):
So it's Madripoor.
The people that were blowing up.
People.
Yeah, whoever the hell the.
Yeah, that's how she did it.
But the thing was it was.
Why did that turn happen?
That was her.
That was her story about thepower broker.
She took out the original one.
She basically took out theoriginal power broker and took it
took their place.
Hence why Stark tech andeverything else is there.

(01:20:29):
So then that's the lean into that.
But see that's the thing.
When you have someone likethat, it leaves a.
Okay.
It's like with Luke Cage.
He took over Harlan's Paradise.
He says, I can't work thisfrom the outside.
I got to work it from theinside in, inside out.
So if you said this is whySharon became the power broker, because

(01:20:50):
she had to.
There was a power vacuum.
She had to take the spot inorder to control what happens.
Okay.
It's not so much of a turn then.
I still say it was for power.
I.
I think it was the fact thatshe basically got.
She basically.
Basically her.
They keep on saying it was arole she played.
No, she really enjoyed really pull.

(01:21:12):
Really running her own kingdomin Matt and Madpool.
She enjoyed it.
So I don't think it's more of a.
I don't think it's more of arole play of trying to change things
because, well, she'sfacilitating half the.
Half the things that arehappening on the other side of the
globe.
So she's.
To me, it's like a full onvillain at this point.
But I do agree for her to bethe power broker of all people.
It just.

(01:21:32):
It doesn't sit right to gofrom SHIELD to just running your
own evil empire and just in.
In half a turn.
Don't make any sense.
Is what Tafari wrote correct.
She got blacklisted for givingCap his shield in Civil War.
Yeah, she got blacklisted forgiving him forgiving Cap and shield.
And old boy is old boy's wings.
Well, if I'm her, I'm gonnamake it do what it do, baby.

(01:21:54):
I'm gonna figure out.
But that's a hard.
But that's a hard turn.
You know what I mean?
That's a really hard turndoing the right goddamn thing.
Because.
Because the question is.
Because.
Because the question becomeswho blacklisted her.
It wasn't Fury.
He was still around and shewas working under him.
Unless it was Robert Redford's character.

(01:22:17):
Yeah, he was still around.
No, but when Fury went underground.
Yeah, he was still running the show.
Yeah, he still had a camp.
He still had people.
Yeah.
So.
And I would have thoughtSharon would have been one of those
people next to Maria.
But he was in charge.

(01:22:37):
Well, he didn't have to be in charge.
He didn't have to be in chargeof SHIELD he knew SHIELD was.
Was rocky after that.
Yeah, but his.
But he still had resources.
The overall set of people aremonitoring S.H.I.E.L.D.
they can still kick her out.
He could have taken her underhis wing.
But Bama.
Yeah, but Fury doesn't trust anybody.

(01:22:58):
Bama might be right.
She was on her own.
But Valentina at the time hadto be with Ox and.
Yeah, but who.
But Valentina has her hands ina lot of stuff too.
Yeah, there could have.
She was.
She was headed.
She was running CIA.
Yeah, she was at the time theValentina found.

(01:23:20):
Found what she needed through her.
She wasn't hired by violent.
She wasn't working under Valentina.
No, she.
No, she like her character.
She's the power broker.
She's just Amazon for.
Yeah.
Like villainy or.
Hey, you got a price.
You got.
You got the money, I got thetech, so whatever.
But there's.
There's been severaliterations of the Thunderbolts and

(01:23:44):
it keeps changing.
It's.
It's Marvel's suicide Squadwithout the threat of death.
It's just more like, hey, justwork off your record.
Or.
Or this person wants to go straight.
It just.
It is what it is.
You know, they have.
So they have the swordsman,Purple man, amazingly enough.

(01:24:07):
Photon Speed Demon, Joystick,Blizzard 2, Radioactive Man.
They've battled Atlantean superhumans.
They've battled BaronStrucker's Hydra organization.
They've done.
They've done work.
These are all.
These are all D grade villainsat best.

(01:24:27):
Yeah.
C, C or D, I guess for themost part the anti hero are more
or less.
You've caused some destruction inadvertently.
Red Hulk.
So you gotta work with us.
Pretty much.
You don't want to go to theraft, you just work with us.

(01:24:47):
If not you going to the Raft.
So.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
Threat.
Threat of death for most.
Not.
Not all.
But those are so extreme cases.
Yeah.
You know, and.
And I don't.
You can't threaten Frank.
You like, don't threaten mewith a good time.

(01:25:09):
He's like, I don't even have powers.
What do you mean?
So.
No, there's been several.
There's been several iterations.
And.
And the team was originallynamed after Thunderbolt.
General Thunderbolt Ross.
He was the one that Kind ofput this whole thing together.
But once again, we've seen howit happens for live action, so it

(01:25:29):
only makes sense.
That is just by proxy, a nameby proxy.
And they said it was Yelena'ssoccer team.
Like, just run with it.
Just.
Just go with it.
I'm like, yeah, it works.
I think we all love Yelena.
Florence Pew, you carried that.

(01:25:50):
I'm not gonna lie.
You carried that film.
Really did hear that.
You carried it.
And the emotions.
Sorry.
The emotions were there.
There was some emotion there.
But no, Spartan, I don't.
I don't know if you have aparticular favorite or as far as
the Thunderbolts storylines orcharacters, but would you care to

(01:26:14):
see another version?
I want to see Red Hulk'sbecause it's darker storytelling.
There for the things that theRed Hulk thunder pulse went through
was some of the darkerstorytelling that Marvel has done.
And they've already opened thedoor as far as darker story, darker

(01:26:36):
storytelling.
Hawkeye's Thunderbolts is too light.
Devil's Reign is too closer toDaredevils born again storyline.
But Red Hulk and Key in black,if you did theirs, if you did those
two teams.
Teams and told their arcs,Marvel would finally.
You would finally silencepeople and saying, well, we want

(01:26:56):
to see Marvel go dark.
Well, if you see King andblack thunderbolts or if you see
Red Hulk thunderbolts, youwill get all that dark stories you
want, including some very.
Including some veryunfashionable John Walker stories
to where we keep on sayingit's the worst that he's done.
No, it's the worst that, youknow he's done so far.

(01:27:17):
Yeah, I.
It's funny you mentioned ro.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
No, no, no.
Y' all gonna have to dive alittle bit deeper into that for me
because he's already on theshit list.
What the.
This done did.
Who you talking about?
Ross or Walker?
Walker.
Oh, Walk.
Walker had.
Walker.
Walker comics.

(01:27:38):
Walker.
Walker's done some dirt.
I'll put this way here, here.
I will save you some time.
If you Google.
If you google atrocious thingsJohn Walker has done in the mcu,
you will get a full page ofeverything that he's done.
That is all cringe worthy.
I'm about to do it right now.

(01:27:58):
He's even lost both his arms before.
Don't explain how he got him back.
It's comics.
That's what we keep on saying.
If you ever heard us saythat's the worst thing he's done
so far, it's because he's done.
He's done a crap lot.
If you think John, US Agent incomics is the true.

(01:28:22):
Like, Frank doesn't like thisdude, so it says a lot if Frank.
Oh.
Oh, wait.
What happened?

(01:28:43):
We're back.
I think we're back.
Yeah.
Everybody's moving.
Yeah.
No, if.
If Frank doesn't like you butcan't put a bullet in you.
Says a lot if he can't shoot you.
If he can't shoot you or be onyour side, he does not want you around
him.
Pretty much.
Now, why Kira looks that up.

(01:29:04):
You mentioned Red Hulk and allI can think of for a Red Hulk team
outside of Abomination, that would.
I would.
I honestly would like to seeAbomination, Banner and Red Hulk
in the same room.
I was gonna say Abomination,Red Hulk, and Moon Knight.

(01:29:30):
Or even worse, Punisher, MoonKnight, and Deadpool all in the same
room.
Oh, God.
Nothing's getting done.
You want to talk?
Conversation.
That's.
They.
That's.
That's.
Look, Kira's like, this is crazy.
I take it by her.
I take it she found it.
Looks like she did.

(01:29:52):
I'm.
There's a lot, like, here to take.
Yeah.
Don't take your time.
I'm sorry.
Text asking me.
Because I haven't.
I haven't found it yet.
Yeah, I'll put it in the chat.
Oh, my God.
So.
But now Moon Knight and Deadpool.

(01:30:13):
Yeah.
Because we've seen Moon Knightand Punisher have a conversation.
That's interesting.
But Moon Knight, Punisher andDeadpool all on the same team?
How would that cohesion go?
A bloodbath.
It's a bloodbath.
A guy.
A guy who can't die, a guy whohas regenerative abilities, and a

(01:30:36):
guy who has nothing to livefor but has an arsenal of weapons.
In other movies, we would callthat John Wick.
What's going on?
I.
I'm just saying, the onlyreason why I think that would.

(01:30:57):
The only reason why I thinkthat wouldn't work.
The closest thing would be.
For the voice of reason, theclosest thing would be Deadpool.
Yeah, but he'd be too busyplaying referee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who's the worst?
Guy Gardner or John Walker?

(01:31:19):
Walker by a mile.
Walker.
Yeah.
Guy Gardner is.
Is a.
Is an.
That you can deal with.
You can punch him in the faceas Bruce Wayne.
You can punch him in the faceand get your point across, and it's
fine.
But you want.
You may be one to knock outGuy Gardner, but you would rather
shoot Walker.
Yeah.
Damn.
I'll Put that way, you'll.

(01:31:40):
You.
You.
You may not like Guy Gardner,but you could deal with the guy.
You might have to punch him afew times, but Walker.
Nah.
Yeah.
See, so having Deadpool, MoonKnight, Red Hulk and Punisher on
the same.
Yeah.
Deadpool's the only voice ofreason, the own.

(01:32:01):
But like you said, he.
He's more likely playing referee.
Yeah.
More than anything.
Because after a while, it wouldn't.
It wouldn't.
He would get tired of talking.
But also.
But also the King and BlackThunderbolts, that would be just.
That's just carnage.
That is.
That is just like.

(01:32:22):
That's just basically sendinga kill squad.
That.
Yeah.
I mean, seriously, just.
That's a lot to take in peaceright now.
Enjoying listening to thefrogs listen to frog scream.
Frog scream.
Dang, I did not know frog scream.

(01:32:42):
No, but the thing about it is,because literally.
Well, for anybody, foreverybody doesn't know about the
King of Black.
This is basically after Null,which is basically the God of Symbiote
attacks Earth.
We caught glimpses of and.
Yeah.
Send them the last dance.
Yeah.
So Mayor Fist reformed theThunderbolts, and that's where it
got Taskmaster, Mr.

(01:33:03):
Fear, Star, Botrock, Rhino.
And I want to say I'm missing somebody.
Yeah.
And the only people.
The only person who remotelywould have voice of reason on that
team would have been.
Would have been Rhino.
Yeah.

(01:33:23):
And Elect.
Yeah.
Alexi was trying to reform himself.
And that's exactly.
Exactly what's going to reform himself.
Yeah.
So that was.
That was really the.
Out of that entire team.
Plus it was put together by Fisk.
You're.
You're asking for trouble.
You're asking for trouble.
You got.
You didn't get people that youwanted, that wanted to reform.

(01:33:45):
You got people that.
That you got.
Your Suicide Squad is reallywhat you got.
He got his superpower, antitask force.
That anti anti vigilante task force.
That's what he got.
Yeah, that's exactly what he got.
You thought the police were bad.
He's like, no, I want peoplewho have powers to take these bastards

(01:34:06):
out.
That's what he got.
But I will say this.
If they did do another.
If they did do another.
Thumb bolts, like I said,going back to Luke Cage because,
well, they couldn't do it nowin the current MCU because Crossbones
is kind of mia.
It's gets kill in action.
So, yeah, he could haveTaskmaster, Ghost, Moonstone, Juggernaut,

(01:34:27):
Man Thing.
Yeah, he was Man.
They use Man Thing like theyuse them for a ship so, yeah, so
his was a little bit morelight hearted.
But again, the whole idea is just.
Always gets like a ragtag teamof people to please Hawkeye.
Hawkeye is like that oneavenger act.
Look, this is what you've been given.
Make.

(01:34:47):
Make lemonade with it.
He's like.
It's.
He never gets like a solid team.
He's like, oh, no.
You get.
You get the rag tag of the rag tags.
That's what you get.
And you get to have fun withthem for.
Just have fun with that for a while.
If.
If Hawkeye could be.
If Hawkeye's thunderboltscould be called a movie with the

(01:35:09):
replacements.
Yeah, that's pretty much whatit is.
The replacements.
It's like you.
You're gonna spend a good 70minutes of the film.
It's like the end of the filmis y' all stumbling into helping
to save the world just bystumbling right here, lady.
Y' all.
Okay.

(01:35:31):
They're like engulfed into theJohn Walker.
Just a little bit.
But you know, I.
I'm up to the oil field.
Eyes get wider and.
And ladies lives are like.
They just.
It's like they're going downthe list of things.
There's a list.
I will say that there is a list.
That's why I'm glad.
It's why I'm glad.

(01:35:51):
The John Walker for live action.
You get why he's.
I need him to be this right here.
You need him to be completely unlikable.
I need.
I need.
I.
No, I don't need a gray villain.
This.
This.
Nick.

(01:36:14):
Absolutely.
He's a trash human.
Yeah.
Okay.
Since Kira has it in front ofher, just do a quick rundown of what
John Walker's done for peoplethat's listening or watching.
He.
I don't think.

(01:36:34):
What was it?
He burned.
He burned a field on a college campus.
So far, he.
He got revenge on someone'sparents by hanging them in an oil
tanker while it exploded.
They didn't die, though.
I think I'm just up to that.
I'm trying to catch everything.

(01:36:55):
He's.
He has worked with all the evils.
He's worked with all.
All.
I think outside of Thanos.
He has worked with all of theevils so far.
He is not a likable.
He is.
Would be a step up.
Yeah.
He is not.
He is not a likable character.

(01:37:16):
In terms.
In terms of comics.
How is he still alive?
Sheer luck.
I was gonna say plot armor,but yeah, let's go.
Sheer luck.
Because everybody's everworked for.
Has literally Turned out theywant to take him out.
Yeah.
No one he shows up, they werelike, here it is.

(01:37:38):
This guy, this guy here.
What is he doing here?
You know, that's why the JohnWalker in the movies or in a television
show, you're just like, Idon't like you because you think
you're somebody that you're not.
Right.
And it's all you.
You'll never be.

(01:37:58):
You know, they always throwthat at.
At Sam Wilson.
Sam set up will sit up thereand tell you I'm not trying to be
Steve.
Correct.
I never said I would.
I told you I can do what Stevedoes, just slower.
That's all he said.
He's like, he's just as formidable.

(01:38:18):
He's just don't have a serumin his body.
Like, he's just as formidablein everything that he does.
John wants to be Steve.
I thought he wanted to bebetter than Steve.
No, no, he won.
He wanted to think that because.
Well, yeah, he basicallywanted Captain America's spot.

(01:38:39):
He's like, I could do this.
I've done the qualifications.
It kind of goes back to whatthe doctor in the first avenger set
about the serum.
He says, I didn't want.
He goes, I didn't want a soldier.
I got plenty of.
There are plenty of soldierson this base.
What I needed for this serumto work was just a good man, he said.
And that's what the wholething about it was where he's like,
I could have had anybody, butI chose you.

(01:39:01):
Because, you know, the serum,as we all know, amplifies what you
are.
You know, good becomes great,bad becomes evil.
So we.
And you know, fast forward toFalcon the winter soldier.
Walker gets the hyped upversion of super serial soldier super
serum.
And what does he do?
Gets his ass whooped by fourwonderful black women and then turns

(01:39:22):
around, decides to take hisass out on an innocent man.
That's why the.
That's why the differencesbetween John Walker and Alexi are
so different.
Even though Alexi's a supersoldier for Russia, he's still inherently
a good man.
Yep.
And it shows.
Like he.

(01:39:43):
He wants.
He.
Despite the.
The relationship between U.
S.
And Russia, he's doing it tohelp his people.
Steve does it to help peoplewho can't help themselves.
And that's how.
That's how Alexi seems to sees himself.
He wants to help.
So when he finally gets that,he gets that shine, he wants it.

(01:40:06):
It's not.
He wants to be recognized, youknow, and I think if they had.
If they did Have a shame room,which they.
They talked about.
But I think if they did have ashame room for him in the movie,
his shame room would have been that.
That moment of not beingrecognized anymore, not being respected
anymore, giving.

(01:40:26):
Being tossed aside and, youknow, and dealing with that and not
being near his family.
But that's the crazy part.
What happened in Black Widow?
Because even in Black Widow,you see Alexa Alexi go back and was
like, you.
You're welcome me back intothe program.
I will be right by side, andI'll be greater than Captain America.
And they turn around and say,nah, we just want your daughter.

(01:40:46):
Yeah, we just really want yourdaughter back.
You were just collateral damage.
And you see him come to gripswith that, and then all of a sudden,
it's like, oh, I can still.
There's.
There's redemption.
It's like, I did this for thewrong reasons, but now I'm doing
this for the right reasons.
Yeah.
So that's the.
So that's the crazy part.
But not Walker.
Now Walker's just a dick.
Yeah.
And in that show, like, in thecon or in the movie, it showed.

(01:41:11):
It showed.
Like, dude, you were.
You were a person in the military.
You did all the.
You had all these accolades,and that's great, but you wrestled
with a lot of stuff.
You didn't have thatconfidence level because you kept
trying to meet that mark.
Yep.
Steve didn't care about noneof that.
Steve was just confident.

(01:41:33):
He was just like, I don't likebeing bullied.
I don't like seeing otherpeople being bullied.
I'm gonna stop it.
John was like, I don't likeseeing people being bullied, but
we need to be strategic, andwe're gonna do this, this, and it.
Like, no, you're even.
You.
You see it in the movie.
He still has that.
That military mind, that mindset.

(01:41:53):
And that's why Yelena isalways cutting her eyes at him.
Like, would you catch up?
Like, please.
You never heard somebody inthe accent.
Go read the room.
It's like, please read the room.
Do you know?
That's why.
It's why.
It's why I'm glad.
It's why I'm glad Bucky isthere with Yelena because, you know,

(01:42:15):
he's kind of jumping ahead,and she's like, would you let this
woman do her job?
I Lucky.
I like you, Bucky.
Just.
Just be her support right now.
Just be your support and.
And be fine.
But it.
You.
You kind of see thedifferences, and that's why I'm glad
they didn't make Walker whathe is in the comics.

(01:42:37):
Oh he's like, like he'spractically in irredeemable in comics.
I don't think they want to gothat route yet.
No, I think, I think they'rewaiting to see.
They're waiting to see if thisThunderbolts works out yet.
I think they might let him behim now.
They might have to water itdown otherwise it's going to go into
already territory.
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah.
Wrong with that.

(01:42:58):
I think, I think they did it.
I think he's close enough withyou said what I need them to.
To grow up with the.
If you're gonna go dark, youhave to grow up.
I mean they were going dark.
They.
They had him going dark inFalcon and Winter Soldiers.
Soldier.
Yeah, they had him going darkthere and then they, they take his

(01:43:18):
accolades from.
And he was right what he saidto the council.
Then y' all came to me.
I did nothing wrong.
He was like everything.
Yeah, I followed your rules.
I did everything else, youknow, and that was the problem.
Steve doesn't follow orders.
If it's wrong, it's wrong flatout, you know.
So him wrestling with that.

(01:43:42):
I'm glad he's not the comicsversion because then it's just like
you, you don't have thatirredeemable factor going on like
the comics version.
You can't, you can't redeem that.
That guy.
No, I didn't think about.
I didn't think about NormanOsborne's thunderbolts either.
That also, that also is a dark story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:44:02):
Norman Osborne had thunderbolts.
Yeah.
This was after Civil War.
So after Civil War theybasically worry were a covert ops
team.
And I think he had.
I think he had bit him.
Bullseye.
Green Goblin did pop out, butit's kind of like a Jekyll and Hyde

(01:44:22):
thing.
Speedball and Songbird andSwordsman, if memory serves it right.
Yeah, I think it was rightbefore he had his Dark Avengers.
Yeah.
So yeah, there was a couple.
Yeah, Osborne had a OsborneThunderbolts run.
I was gonna say there was aThunderbolts army.
It was kind of a short lived run.

(01:44:43):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, history.
It's pretty extensive when itcomes to.
When it comes to that team.
But yeah, it's that entire run.
The history of thunderbolts is pretty.
I think I'm gonna write in an entire.
I'm supposed to have thatarticle done, but it's just so such

(01:45:06):
a long history.
Although everybody's askingSpider man did have some run did
have some run ins with thethunderbolts, I think.
Yeah, I think.
I think Bama asked question.
A long time ago, did the USAgent run a Spider Man?
A few times.
A few times.
It was kind of like.
It was kind of like inpassing, like he kind of took a shield
from him a few times.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.

(01:45:27):
Pete.
Pete's taking actual capshield several times.
He's actually taking capshield and slammed it into a brick
wall right next to him.
Because he was.
This is why.
One of the few times Peter hasbeen, like, pushed to the edge.
This is why I sit there andsay, God help us if Spider man ever

(01:45:49):
decides to go dark.
Because he would be the.
He.
Look, he's already hard enoughto be holding back.
Do you really want to see himwhen he's dark side and no limits.
Share it out.
That man.
That man is a menace.
You thought Carnage was terrible.
You thought Carnage was destructive.

(01:46:09):
Yeah, I don't want to go into it.
That's why when he had.
When he had the Venom suit thefirst time, you were seeing.
Yeah.
You were seeing glimpses ofPete going full.
Full dark.
Yeah, that wasn't the suit.
That was Pete.
Let me.
Let me guess, Kira.
Does it.
Does it involve.

(01:46:30):
Or does it involve fire?
Share, Kara, because that'snot reading.
Does it involve fire or explosions?
He helped the governmentdismantle Vision.
Yes.
There's a picture.
Yeah.
Hey, Tash, baby.

(01:46:55):
Hi.
Hi, Tasha.
She is so.
Aren't you.
Aren't you glad you went downthis rabbit hole with us?
I.
I didn't need this.
You asked.
You did you need it?
I just asked for one thing.
What did he.
What was the worst thing he did?
I would.
You know what?
I'm glad you said that.
I would like to.

(01:47:15):
That part.
That part.
You know what?
I wouldn't mind him being apart of that.
That was involved with thatprocess of catching.
Of catching visit.
Yeah.
Like, they're like.
It's more connected than we thought.
Like.
Like he was part of the.
He was part of the outfit thathe was leading the outfit that.

(01:47:40):
That brought Vision in and.
Yeah, but they.
But it's.
But how.
But how they baited him.
That was the messed up.
The messed up part was howthey baited Vision.
Did you.
That part did tell you.
That part in there, Kira.
Okay, then don't look it up.
Yeah, just say what it is.

(01:48:01):
I'm about to say.
I was about to look it up.
For the better part of this podcast.
It involved an individual, andit was in a rather uncomfortable
setting.
Bro, if you don't say it,because that's.
We got time.
My daughter going to sleep.
He captured Scarlet Witch andpretty much tortured to the point

(01:48:22):
of death.
Oh.
Oh.
But the grab.
But it was way more graphicthan I explained it.
I kind of, I still softballed it.
Okay, save us now.
But it's Wanda, so.
Yeah, Consent was not involved.
I'm going.
There you go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this is kind of the thingwhy the majority of the original

(01:48:45):
Avengers are just like, tohell with you, John Walker.
We don't like you.
Civil War was his time to shine.
Like when they said governmentsanctioned heroes.
Oh, he was front line.
He was front and center.
Gave him a team and everything.
So he, and he was all for it.

(01:49:06):
He was, he was off.
He is not the guy in comics.
He is not the guy you wantbacking you.
I, I need them to stop Disney,these type of characters, because
they're all they're doing.
They're, they're, they'remaking this bad.
They're making, they're,they're putting themselves in a box.

(01:49:28):
Because now he's on the goodguys team.
Right?
How far can he fall?
Yeah, how far can he fall?
What are you gonna do to gethim kicked off the team?
If you, if you break down, ifyou break down.
If you break down theThunderbolts team that we have or
AKA New Adventures.
Spoiler alert.
Which is which still.
I'm not.
It's a weird, It's a weird fit.

(01:49:49):
It's a weird fit.
It's a weird fit.
I get it.
I, I, It's a weird fit.
But I'm like, all right, we'llrun with it.
Because meanwhile, our girl isout there creating her own team.
Sam's trying to put his ownteam together.
I get it.
So that team that we haveright now, out of everybody that's

(01:50:12):
on that squad, he's really theonly one that.
You're just like, you got anego problem.
Bob is just in the, in a verydepressive state, and we have to
keep him from said depressive state.
When he gets in a mold, youare a problem.

(01:50:34):
When Bob goes into a.
Nobody dies when Bob is in thedepressive state.
Right?
Nobody actually.
That they suffer.
They don't die.
Like, I mean, I mean, you'retrapped in the void, but, yeah, you're
not dead.
Yeah, you're just relivingyour trauma over, over again.
John, you starting, yougetting your depressive state.
You ignored your child.

(01:50:57):
Baby just sitting there screaming.
Baby just sitting therescreaming her head off.
And you Stuck in the phone.
Like, dude, that's not a goodlook for you.
Like, I.
You're dealing with ptsd.
I know.
But you're also dealing withyour ego being smashed.
And you are coming off as thatheterosexual white male who can't

(01:51:18):
handle the truth.
I was just about to say that.
That's all that is the crash out.
It's the.
It's the crack he's crashing out.
For real.
How you have super superpowersand you still a mediocre ass white
man.
I don't understand.
Hello.
Even Bob seen through that.
Like, he was just like, even you.

(01:51:39):
Want to go back there?
You really want to go back.
I can take it here.
So I don't know.
Is.
Is John Walker in comics is ahorrible human being, a menace.
But he also does.
But he also justifies thecrazy part.
Is the.
The one thing I would saywhat's interesting about his character,

(01:51:59):
he tries to justify everythinghe's done.
He will sit there and say,that's like even with the Vision
dismantling, it's like, look,Vision is a weapon that can be used
against us by Ultra at all times.
Better than he be.
And then literally, this was aline they said, better for him to
be disassembled and sitting onthe shelf than to be Ultron's puppet.
I choose for that.
I choose to put him on theshelf as he's literally putting parts

(01:52:21):
of a Vision.
Yeah.
You're just like, he's kind ofnot wrong, but he's too blunt when
you need a sniper.
And he's the cannonball.
That's the problem.
You see what I'm saying?
Right?
That's the crazy part.
But only.
And the only reason why thegovernment is after Frank is because
Frank is like, I'm notlistening to y' all.

(01:52:46):
Y' all want me to go afterdignitaries and meanwhile there's
a rapist or a child murdereron the streets.
I need to take them off thestreet, please.
Damn.
So, like, there's just.
That's just what it needs tobe, so.
Yep.
But that's just part of thehistory of the Thunderbolts.

(01:53:09):
I think I will do like a writeup on some of these characters.
At least from the original.
I'm.
I may just do the original team.
Yeah.
Because Citizen B and CitizenB, slash.
Baron Zemo is an interestingcharacter himself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that's the.
The best one to do?
Because every version ofThunderbolts after that has just
kind of like.
It's become like, it'sMarvel's version Of answer for suicide

(01:53:33):
squad.
For D.C.
suicide squad.
So it's like, just do theoriginals because it was the twist
nobody seen coming after that.
It was like, you know, this isan anti hero.
This is a villain that'strying to go straight.
This is.
Yeah.
Outside of Hawkeye.
Outside of Hawkeye and LukeCage's thunderbolts, everybody else
was just being justified.
Oh, we're gonna be covert.
Oh, we're just a kill squad.

(01:53:53):
Or for Red Hulks.
No red tape.
No.
You had Red Hulk, Deadpool andElectra on the same team.
I'm like, I don't know whatthat was.
A kill squad.
You're just like, how you can get.
You can have it done with alot of collateral damage.
You can have it messy or youcan have it clean.
Which one do you want?

(01:54:15):
I mean, that's always.
Like I said, you can get itquick, you can get it clean, or you
can get it done with a smile.
Pick two.
Yeah.
So we're clearing out of here.
We'll start with our second incommand, our favorite weapons, Smith.
My favorite weapons.
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(01:54:36):
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(01:56:02):
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Um, decide that for my lastplaythrough because I finished south
of Midnight and it was awesome.
Except that last one, which y'all are not joking.

(01:56:46):
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That.
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And I'm glad that y' allsaying yeah, because that means I'm
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But anyway, so yeah, we dotrailer reviews.
We do movie reviews.
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Our last one was as Thunderbolts.
That is on the channel now.
And yeah, our next one will beFinal Destination.

(01:57:10):
Is that this weekend?
When does that come out?
It's next weekend.
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Okay.
After that is Mission Impossible.
Oh, man, my pockets.
Get.
I don't.
I'm.
I'm not a paid person for AMCthing, but get it.
It is so worth it.
I will.
I will wait for your Final Destination.
I can't put myself to that again.

(01:57:32):
I just now got some point towhere it's in the recess in the back
of my head.
I'm not about to relive allthat again.
I'm good.
I will say this.
This is how these bastards at their.
At their Promote at theirmarketing are literally out in a
truck.
A log truck.
Oh, nah.
That has Final Destinationbloodlines wrapped around.

(01:57:53):
I'm like you and you areawakening trauma.
Stop it.
That's why.
That's why.
This is why truckers with logsare going.
So that's why people avoid us.
Yes.
We see what happens.
That.
That.
That's not even cool.
And an accident actuallyhappened like earlier this week.

(01:58:13):
I don't know where it was at,but an accident actually happened
that somebody's log wentthrough their window.
It didn't cause the damagelike you've seen in the movie, but
it.
It went through the window andthey survived.
And the first thing I saidwas, see that?
Is that.
Nah, bro.
Nah.
All the more reason.
That's why we sit there andsay log that.

(01:58:35):
Actual.
That log.
You can actually hear MarkCooper in a stop motion.
It's on his page.
It's on his.
He has a stop motion.
He's playing the voice of Lando.
Nice.
Think of it.
It's almost.
It's almost like Robot Chicken.
Chicken.
It's stop motion like Robot Chicken.
It's actually pretty cool.

(01:58:55):
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We just covered a lot of stuffespecially yesterday on how the fact
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(01:59:16):
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Especially with that GTA 6trailer that everybody can't stop
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I myself am doing somestreaming as well.
Currently playing Claireobscure Expedition 33 on Xbox.
Trying to get it down to a day.
It's usually if I can get thekids to sleep and I can, you know,
stream for a couple hours.

(01:59:36):
I usually try to be a littlebit better about that.
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We got a new pope.
He's American.
I was kind of for a black popebut you know what ifs.
But don't doom scroll.
Protect your peace.
Do something makes you laugh.
If you can check on yourpeople's call or text, that'd be
great.
At the same time you got toreally make somebody laugh or smile.
Do so the world can use moreof that con.
Rules still apply.

(02:00:18):
Respect the cosplayer at all times.
Cosplay is not consent.
Please treat people like human beings.
It's not that hard.
Wash your ass.
I cannot stress this enoughbecause viruses, everything else
out there in the world isgoing on clean clothes, bathe yourself.
Please don't put on Musk orJupe or Old Spice or Stetson or Brute
or or Curve or you know whatI'm getting at.

(02:00:42):
Just clean yourself at thesame time guys.
In a world that's cold, that's cool.
Be nice, be kind, talk andshare your fandoms.
Don't be a dick and we'll allbe cool.
Right?
And.
We are two episodes away fromour season finale of season 15.
So we thank everybody who'sjoined us along for the ride up until

(02:01:04):
this point.
But you'll still see plenty ofus, whether it's at a convention
or some pop up shows thatwe're going to be doing.
But you can catch us liveTuesdays and Thursdays clips Mondays,
Wednesdays and Fridays,Tuesdays and Thursdays Live at 8pm
Eastern, YouTube and Twitch.
You can check out the replays.
You can go to APR TV on yourRoku devices or Amazon Fire devices.

(02:01:27):
Shout out to Trey Lawson for that.
You can still sign up atBlurred Station and get get us going
and get it launched becausethat looks like it's going to be
happening pretty soon.
And if you want us to do alive stream from your convention,
be sure to hit us up throughlove through Blurred Station.
But until then, remember toeducate yourself and others, entertain

(02:01:50):
yourself and others, and mostof all, encourage yourself and others.
We're gonna leave you with thenew track by Crazy 8, the Great,
our very own and Thrizzy withthis new track.
Come check them out.
Leave your reports and yourreviews on the page.
We'll see you guys soon.
Don't look at me like that it's.

(02:02:11):
Really turning me on nophysician but it's like an exam when
I get shown cheeks I'm on thehunt you coming up short just be
gone freak that kitty be likepop pirated music listen it's gonna
leak I hear it it's myfavorite song the way she moans sheets
be gone sheets she moistentowel she loca his tongue do tricks

(02:02:35):
he's a magician the way hesoaker he stroke her like a guitar
she screams a octave thatstarts to rise she me like she out
for revenge she got thescarlet eyes drunk off her juices
your boy is an alcoholicmercenary and missionary I'm killing
her with the zodiac I tried tocall it a king some she ain't used

(02:02:57):
to she like to be tied up nowcause I'm the chain user you only
live once so why you screamingyolo just know I know every skill
in the book please call mecrollo baby oh no I promise that
you gonna keep smiling you seea nigga like me r and GRE island

(02:03:19):
I'm about.
To lay that in on you I can'twait to see you next hunter hunting
for your body over gettingnaughty you're my york no shy hunter
hunting for your body hunterhunting for your body hunter hunting

(02:03:43):
for your body over.
Getting naughty that's my Yorknew sh.
Now shy know I'm differentwhen I'm f to make a pass I can tell
by how she twisting sheenvision me and there in the aura
I'm admitting got a drippinghere to splash.
Now she moaning with sweetwhispers as.
I'm gripping on the ass andI'm digging in her neck want me to

(02:04:07):
plug her any day no instantlove and no not my taste sorry I.
Got too many babes she saidit's no biggie it's okay you still
my diggy let's be great myeyes on that kitty eating like Mitchie
we getting.
Busy it's a day higher that'soutside to the lord I gotta thank
it no, she love it when I getit fingers popping like I'm freaking

(02:04:27):
girl relax don't you beanxious let's try ruin the blunt
she heard this black.
Voice and then she said I'll do.
What you want she showing off for.
That cuz she love just how I.
Age told me conjure up some toys.
Got some stuff she want toplay we keep going no, it's late
I made a water made a way she.
Said I got that type of sex.

(02:04:49):
Even Shizuku can't forget.
I'm about to.
Lay that in on you.
I can't.
Wait to see you next.
Hunter hunting for your bodyover getting naughty you're my hunter

(02:05:09):
hunting for your.
Body.
Hunter hunting for your bodyHunter hunting for your body over
getting naughty that's my Ygot it.

(02:05:32):
Snake, Are you okay?
Snake.
Snake.
Sam.

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