Embracing Change: A Conversation with Jacquelyn Thompson

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Are you ready for an emotional, life-changing journey? Brace yourselves as I, Jenelle Yarbrough, take you through a heart-to-heart with my inspiring sister, Jacquelyn Thompson. Jacquelyn, a certified family and personal life coach, has taken the road less traveled. From running a childcare business to becoming a life coach, her journey is nothing short of remarkable. Our conversation goes beyond the confines of business and explores the intricate corners of life, the profound impact of the pandemic, and the transformative power of change. 

Delve deeper into Jacquelyn's world with us as we navigate the challenges and rewards that come with embracing change. We take a closer look at her daily routine, which is a testament to her commitment to a balanced life. From meditation to exercise to soaking in vitamin D, Jacquelyn leaves no stone unturned in her pursuit of balance and self-discovery. You'll also get a glimpse into her latest venture, Living with Jacquelyn, which is a manifestation of her passion for helping others realize their life visions. This episode is packed with wisdom and life lessons that can serve as a compass in your own journey. 

As we traverse through the ups and downs of life, Jacquelyn opens up about the impact of the pandemic on her personally and professionally. The emotional toll of not being able to provide hands-on care to the families she had grown so close to was immense. But, Jacquelyn's resilience led her to pivot and grow into a higher level of her calling. We also shed light on the significance of daily practices in achieving a balanced life. It's not every day that you get to hear such an enlightening conversation filled with nuggets of wisdom. Tune in and get inspired by Jacquelyn's journey of transformation, resilience, and self-discovery.

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Episode Transcript

Jenelle (00:03):
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topics and experiences thatresonate with the culture.
For those of you who roll withme, you know we talk a lot about
embracing the possibility ofchange.
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Hey.
Hey, y'all Guess who's back?
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party your little hearts out.
We are now into fall and for meI said for me the season that
represents change the change inweather, the change in food, the
change in wardrobe, the changein nature and the life changes
we begin to project forourselves in the new year to

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come.
On this episode, we have aspecial guest that will be
talking about her very ownchange of season and the beauty
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On today's episode, I'm joinedby another one of my amazing
sisters, Jacquelyn Thompson, whois a wife of 25 years, a mom of
three, a Nani, aka agrandmother and an auntie to
many.
She has been serving hercommunity by caring for families
through her childcare businessfor over 20 years and she has

(02:39):
recently elevated her businessmodel to serving officially as a
certified family, couples andpersonal life coach.
In this episode we're going tochat about her journey, her
evolving business and how shehopes this expanded and elevated
method of service will furtherimpact the lives of individuals,

(03:01):
families and communities.
I hope you all enjoy.
Don't forget to hit us up onour social media spaces to let
us know what you think.
Here we go, hey, hey, everyone.
We are happy to be here todayand I always talk about my tribe
y'all and I talk about mysisters all the time, and today

(03:25):
you guys get to meet another one.
Joining me today is my sister,Jacquelyn, aka Jack, aka Jacko.
So you're going to have toforgive me for all the ways that
you hear me refer to her today,but to y'all who ain't ever met
her on these streets, she'sJacqueline.

(03:47):
Yes, say the full name, say itwith your chest and tell you no,
otherwise she is Jacqueline toyou, friends.
So we're super excited to haveher here today, and I know I use
the word excited all the time,but anytime I get to share space

(04:07):
with someone, it is veryexciting for me.
I enjoy hearing people'sjourney and this one is near
dear and personal to and for me.
And so welcome, sister.
Thank you.

Jacquelyn (04:24):
Yes, I'm so excited.

Jenelle (04:26):
Yes.
So you guys, today we're goingto talk about this journey for
my sister.
She has been many things tomany of people within our family
, within this community, and shehas gone through some changes
personally and professionallyover the last few years and
we're going to explore that withher and what those changes have

(04:48):
been, what that process waslike for her, what newness she's
come into and some of thethings that keep her happy,
healthy and thriving day to day.
So you ready for this sister?
Yes, yes.
First of all, I wish I couldhave seen all the work that went

(05:12):
into getting our lives togetherprior to actually pressing
record Like I won't go into itbut.
I almost wish I was recordingsome of the buffoon.

Jacquelyn (05:24):
That's what I was saying.
That would just be funny, justto see.

Jenelle (05:28):
Take me now.
So let's take a trip downmemory lane, because one of the
things that came up for me wasactually a specific memory that
I've had and carried with me foryears, a lifetime right.
And then, I don't know, I feellike I had to be, or we had to
be, maybe somewhere around seven, eight, whenever we had the

(05:57):
what was the?
What was the?
What was the?
It wasn't charming.
We used to tuck our thisT-shirt we have.
What was that tissue called?
It wasn't charming, I don'tknow.
It had the little QP doll girlon it.
I do not remember what it was.
I don't remember, but y'alllisten.

(06:17):
We would tuck this littleT-shirt into our drawers and we
would put our hands in our hipsand we would sing you are my
sunshine, honey, I don't knowwhy.
Together.

Jacquelyn (06:27):
Together.

Jenelle (06:28):
I don't even know where it came from or how we got
there.
It was somewhere around inthose years.
No, that's a lie.
That is a lie.
I'm going to tell you why it'sa lie Now that I'm thinking
deeper about it, because it'sthe same door that the song
singing used to happen, butpicturing you.

(06:49):
You were much older, so itcould not have been when we were
seven or eight.
It had to be when maybe I waslike 10 and you maybe were like
12, you were in middle school.
Anywho.
Anywho, we get my, my, mymemories together.
But Carrie, our cousin Carrie,we were standing in the doorway

(07:09):
of the room on on the main floor.
She asked you what you want todo when you grow up, and what do
you?
What do you want to do when yougrow up?
What do you want to be in life?
And you said I want to have myown childcare.
Do you remember that?

Jacquelyn (07:23):
Listen, I do not, I do not.

Jenelle (07:25):
You were sitting on the bed and me and Carrie were in
the door because you know, I wasglued to her hip and we were
standing in that doorway.
She asked you what you want tobe and and and what you want to
do, and you said you want to ownyour own childcare and she said
good, you will.

Jacquelyn (07:40):
Yes.

Jenelle (07:41):
Yeah.

Jacquelyn (07:42):
Listen, that stuck with me somewhere in here.

Jenelle (07:46):
Yes, right.
And so years later you did.
And that's kind of where wherethis whole story, where I kind
of want to pick up from what ata young age said this is what I
want to do in my, in my adultlife.

Jacquelyn (08:04):
You know, I think that it was really.
It started extremely early forme.
I would really say it startedforming when I was in
kindergarten or first grade,being in school.
You know how we were taught Askquestions If it doesn't sound

(08:25):
right.
If it doesn't feel right, asksome more questions.
Don't just fall for whatsomebody tells you.
Dig a little bit deeper.
And I just remember being inschool wondering why are these
adults Telling us we have toconform to all of these
requirements?

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And we're all individuals.
We're not going to all thinkthe same, feel the same, need
the same things.
So I just would sit while Ienjoyed my early education, I
just thought that it should feeldifferent and the kids should

(09:10):
not feel like we have to beforced into a box.
And that's kind of what I wasfeeling is.
I knew I didn't learn the sameway that other kids learned or
at least that's what I felt likethen.
I'm sure there were tons ofother kids that felt the same
way and that's what I startedrealizing being able to have

(09:31):
that empathy for others to saywe should not be forced, and so
I really started creating aclear vision of what my school
would look like.

Jenelle (09:45):
She better.

Jacquelyn (09:46):
My school would look like and I subjected you all to
that.
Sometimes when we played school, I got to boss everybody around
, but being able to Were we justplaying when that happened, yes
, yes, when we were being bossedaround Both here, good, good,

(10:06):
good.
But, yeah, being able to havethat vision really early and
want all kids to feel acceptedand that there was a place for
each of us and that, who we are,we should be okay with.
It doesn't mean don't strive tolearn or push yourself, of

(10:30):
course, but not fearing being introuble or being sent to be a
classroom.
That was for the other kids.
I, oh, that was like the mostcruelest, cruelest thing to me.
So it just really startedforming a vision for me to say

(10:51):
that I wanted all kids to beable to feel empowered, to be
able to be just who they are andbe able to receive the support
that they need in order to getto the places that they are
wanting to be and also needingto be.
So I know what those places are, but being able to push to be

(11:13):
able to do that.
So, yeah, that started very,very early for me, then just
continued on.

Jenelle (11:19):
So, listeners, it's funny because I always and I
think we just kind of talkedabout this a little while ago
that I think of you as themiddle child of the family and
you're not but, but, but, so, so, but your presence and the role

(11:44):
in our family feels very muchlike the center, neutral role,
and so I always think of youlike a I don't even know why
like I think because you're themiddle girl but you're not the
middle child.
It's really interesting, butyour conversation was funny.

(12:06):
Yeah, but your role isdefinitely the center of this
family, like every family hastheir dynamics and the roles,
and so I think about like youplayed this, this nurturing,
otherly role, right, and evennow still in life.
You're so very thoughtful aboutthinking who each of us are as

(12:27):
a person, right, and when Ithink about how that carried
over into the work that you do,I think about all of the littles
and just their uniquepersonalities and ways and how
you were so thoughtful andartful about meeting them all

(12:48):
where they were at, within thesame overall right, the efforts
and projects and schoolwork, andyou know all of the things.
You challenge them all in thesame way, even if it was through
a different method, right.

(13:08):
And the other part of that isthat I want to acknowledge
because it'll lead into thefuture.
I mean, you know theconversation that follows is the
parents were very much a partof that work, right, absolutely
Like the work that you weredoing, and I think that we wish

(13:33):
that we were able to have theintimate relationships with our
children's school teachers thatyou had, with the parents of the
children that you cared for andtaught and educated, and I
think that was just so special,you guys.

(13:53):
Let me just say I was a youngmother, my child.
I can't fathom her having adifferent experience than what
she had.
My first one, right, and thenthe second one came and she was
able to have the same experienceand just the thoughtfulness and
care and protection and safety,and in knowing that she was in

(14:14):
a safe space, her mind and herbody were safe, her thoughts and
opinions were safe, herdevelopment and curiosities were
safe.
That was the first one, andthen the second one, which had a

(14:35):
very different personality thanthe first one, and all of the
same things.
All of those same things weresafe.
Feedback that came to me wasgiven with love and given in
partnership and collaboration,and so I just think that what
you provided it meant everythingto me as a mother who's handing

(15:00):
over my children to someone.

Jacquelyn (15:04):
I recognize that, then I don't even think it was a
conscious awareness ofrecognizing that it's a natural
thing, that if I am having theprivilege of being able to have
your children here with me, youare entrusting me with these
beautiful and amazing littlesouls and I am going to have

(15:32):
such an influence that I justrecognized every bit of that.

Jenelle (15:38):
I say all of that to more or less talk about that
relationship, that partnershipthat existed between you and
parents in focusing ondeveloping that child.
And I think that you know forme, as a young mother who didn't

(16:02):
have tons of money right andknowing that what I could afford
did not compromise they carethat my children received, that
meant everything, everything tome, everything to me, and I

(16:22):
think that you know just the waythat you have served families
over the years has just beensomething incredible and
selfless to watch.
And so I'm not just saying thisbecause you're my sister, I'm
also saying it because I was aparent right In that process,

(16:44):
and so I feel like I can saythat.
So fast forward a little bit,right.
Pandemic kids Boom.
Everyone's world turns upsidedown.
Yes, how did that affect you?
You personally andprofessionally, with your
business that is, a hands onkids present business.

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What did that mean for you?

Jacquelyn (17:07):
That is it's still, you know, can give me a little
emotional.
Today I told myself I wasn'tgoing to cry.
I want to do that.
Oh goodness, I have.
I mean, for 20 plus years iswhat I have.
It's not just what I have doneor what I have participated in.

(17:32):
Yeah.
It was the families that I gotto work with.
We all were family.
That's just the environmentthat we created.
Yes, we functioned together.
We, if we're having a barbecueright, holidays were a year for

(17:55):
the July.
We're outside.
We're outside, we're doingstuff together.
And it is.
We were just so intertwined,everything it was all of us, and
so it, personally andprofessionally, kind of just

(18:20):
blew up my, my world for a lackof a better term, I probably
shouldn't use that, but it justit.
Completely mentally, it wasextremely challenging it was.
Initially I didn't quiteunderstand how mentally

(18:42):
challenging it was because I wasbusy creating new alternatives
for the time being.
Let's make it through and in myhead it was temporary.
It was, you know, okay, so it'sstill, you know, really bad,
okay, well, families, let's dothis and that until we can
figure something else out.
And you're turning into, it'sturning into months.

(19:07):
We hit a year mark and I'm likeum am I having to really make
some decisions here.
In my head I'm still thinkingoh, I'll get back to full
function, flow and familiesrunning through here and the

(19:28):
same as before in it, and youknow we're hearing new numbers.
At that point in time, yeah, mybrain just wouldn't take it all
in because I was so focused thatI was going to get back to
servicing these families, caringfor these families, the same as
it's been for 20 plus years,yeah.
So it took me a while to get toa point of understanding that I

(19:55):
was needing to start thinkingof some other things and really
it really required me to gothrough a grieving process that
I just didn't know I needed togo through.
Pardon me.
So, with that, recognizing Ineeded to go through that

(20:17):
process was one thing, goingthrough it whole another.
Okay, I don't want to gothrough the feelings and the
emotions and it would really hitreally extreme some days if I'm
, you know, trying to work, youknow pay attention to it.
So I was very blessed for theway that we were able to set up

(20:40):
during the pandemic, when it wasI.
You know I hate using that termof during the pandemic because
people are still so affected byit.
Yeah, yeah, early on, but beingable to have that setup of
having the support.
Yeah.
Having someone in my space justto talk, to chat with, and not

(21:05):
necessarily about even business,yeah, yeah, just be able to
just throw some things out there.
Anyhow, our setup during thoseearly years of the pandemic was
very helpful.

Jenelle (21:20):
Can we just pause there ?
The early years, yeah, the like, the early years, can we just?
Can we just pause and justthink about that, right, like,
and I, and I feel what you'resaying about saying like in the
pandemic, because there's peoplewho are still affected by it,
very true, but I think we're onthe other side of the worst and

(21:45):
and now we're in the years ofhow do we manage it and still
carry on with life.
But but the years, y'all likethe years when we talk about the
value of time, right, likeyears and I know everybody lived
through that time differently.
Zero judgment over here, but youknow you guys have heard me

(22:08):
talk about it before.
We were on a serious lockdownso that we could protect that
space and environment to be witheach other and be each other's
social life.
Essentially through that wemade it happen.
We did make it happen.

Jacquelyn (22:23):
Games where you know come on, come on.

Jenelle (22:27):
Y'all see like tables of food for no reason, just to.
But that time was very real andI think that so many people
were challenged in that time tothink about what does life mean
to me, given what we know rightnow, like how and I don't think

(22:48):
that anybody didn't know howfragile life was, but how not in
control you are of the world,right, and that we can come into
these experiences thatchallenge our, challenge the way
we live, challenge the way wethink, challenge our hearts and

(23:11):
minds spiritually, and so youknow, this was very.
This was a time where you'rehaving to figure out what.
What does life look like for memoving forward, right, like how
do I?
And again that we're grievingyeah, I look to have an episode

(23:32):
on this because I think it's soimportant to think of all of the
things that we have to saygoodbye to, all of the things
that we lose.
That's outside of our control,whether that is, you know,
professional spaces, lives, youknow, parts of yourself,
partners in life all of thosethings require a grieving

(23:52):
process.
But you hit this space whereyou start turning the page for
yourself, right, what is goingthrough your mind, what's going
on in your heart that's sayingit's time.

Jacquelyn (24:04):
So I will say that before we were even faced with
the pandemic, probably about sixmonths before, I had already
started seeing something alittle different for my child
care business and it seems sofunny calling it business, it's
just it was family, but I am.

(24:31):
I was in the space of watchingparents coming in and having
certain questions about theirlife and their experiences in
life and then and and work andpartnership with their
significant other orco-parenting and these kinds of

(24:53):
things, and something just hitme.
It wasn't like I hadn't beenseeing or hearing that before,
but something had just hit meand one day and was just like it
would be nice if I could beable to set some things up with
the parents.
Now I'm I'm in my late 40s.

Jenelle (25:13):
Come on, we're married for 20 plus years.

Jacquelyn (25:19):
My children were grown, I was getting into this
empty nest space and so Iexperienced a whole lot.
I know.
I know I experienced a wholelot of things in my life and and
watching them come in and someyounger families come in,
younger relationships come in, Iwas just like I can be more

(25:41):
support than just working withthe children and having them
yeah, you know move into life.
But while I've always felt likeI supported the family as a
whole, there was someopportunity to do it even on a
more, more rounded scale, and soI was already in the process of

(26:06):
figuring out how to work somethings in there, just gradually,
nonchalantly type, and so itwasn't really a big deal, just
another part of what we do here.
Yeah.
And so I had said a time formyself that, oh, in January 20,
20 hits, then I'll, you know,start implementing a few things.

(26:29):
And da, da, da, and it was, Iwant to say, november of 19.
We already started dealing withsome very interesting sickness,
and we don't normally have thathere.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it it started makingthings a little bit different

(26:56):
here of having to, you know,slow down a little bit with the
what we were able to do for amoment.
There was some small shutdownshere because it was not anything
that I wanted the kids havingto deal with Trying to make sure
everybody is staying healthyand that we were able to clear

(27:17):
the space.

Jenelle (27:19):
Oh, you mean like being a good neighbor.
You mean like considering otherpeople and not making selfish
decisions.
You mean like not going aroundpeople sick.
You mean like not bringing yourkids around people sick to make
others sick.
You mean that?
Huh, that is.
That is interesting how thatworks.

Jacquelyn (27:41):
Yes, so part being able to to make sure that we
were all being able to stillcontinue to function and
everybody wasn't sitting homesick the whole time, but but
being able to to set some goodboundaries and make sure that,

(28:03):
if kids were being affected bywhatever the illness was that
was going around at that pointin time, that it was.
Let's give this a moment to beable to clear up and we can.
We can move forward a littlebit better.
But this went on for a fewmonths yeah, a few months and
again it slowed down what I wasintending to begin in January of

(28:27):
2020.
And so I did not have theopportunity to implement much of
it at all.
So when we did shut down, itstill didn't click to me that
right away that I can go aheadand start this up again.
We're in a space that we haveno idea what it looked at.

(28:49):
Yeah.
So, um it, it's a finally hit methat I can just move forward
with this part, yeah, eventhough it was not the way that I
envisioned it initially.

Jenelle (29:08):
But then God said hey girl, you think that you always
have planned out?

Jacquelyn (29:13):
and that you're ready for all things and that you've
got control over this, and theanswer was no.

Jenelle (29:21):
The answer was no, ma'am, you sit down, I got this
plan for you.
Yes, and listen, you're gonnafollow suit you may not have
known it for yourself.

Jacquelyn (29:31):
Sit back and watch girl how I do that, and that's
exactly what I had to do,because every time, yeah, every
time, I said, oh, I know, oh, Iknow, even though I was praying
on it.
Yeah, I was absolutely prayingon it.
I was praying on it with a rushon.

(29:53):
Yeah, now let me know what itis, and I should know, I should
know, I should know.
It should be very easy for meto that kind of thing, and so
being able to sit in thestillness.

Jenelle (30:10):
Girl and wait for the reveal.

Jacquelyn (30:13):
Shut the mouth.
If I ask it, I will receive it.
It just may not look like Wellcome on Nith, come on Nith.
Yeah, I told him I was readyfor whatever it was that he saw,
so he sits down sits.

Jenelle (30:37):
Still have all the seats.
Ma'am, Wait for this, goodness.

Jacquelyn (30:41):
The Lord said let it cook, that's what I had to do
and there was a lot of change inthere.
There was a lot of change inthere Personally having to learn
new things about myself andI'll change that word from

(31:02):
having to having the opportunityto learn some things about
myself.
But because I was in my regularmotion every single day up
until then my regular motion Iwas comfortable.
I was, of course, there wasthings here and there that I
would see I can adjust, I canchange, I need to move towards

(31:23):
all that kind of stuff, but Ihaven't been pressed to learn
myself to this degree, for Idon't know, so that was just a

(31:47):
privilege all on its own.
Yeah.

Jenelle (31:53):
That's the thing about change, though right, and
listeners be quiet you alreadyknow it's coming right, like the
change.
It challenges you, it stretchesyou, it makes you uncomfortable
and it's like.

(32:13):
I remember I did an episode onetime kind of just creating this
analogy around change right,it's like you're going through
this uncomfortable phase and assoon as you get to a place where
you feel like you can't take itanymore, it's the submission,
like submitting to, and it was Icompared it to and you were

(32:39):
with me for both of these, right, but natural childbirth, right,
like right.
Remember I went into both ofthem like no, gonna do it
natural.
The first one, you know therewas a different set of issues
with, but the second one, y'allmy good sis here, honey, she was
walking me around, sitting meon this ball, hearing me fuss
and cuss.
We were trying to make ithappen.

(33:02):
Oh my gosh.
And again for anybody whohasn't listened to that episode,
essentially what it was isright.
We went through hours of thisbecause I had to be induced.
I'll speak about the second one, because the first one was
similar but there was a lot ofdifferent complications also.
But for this one it was likeyou know, hours of like working

(33:27):
through it and she's always,she's so gentle y'all I like to
say I'm gentle.
My children tell me I'm not.
I am gentle in ways.
I have a gentle heart.

Jacquelyn (33:38):
But I do have a gentle heart.
Yes, you do.
You have a gentle heart, I do,it's fair.

Jenelle (33:46):
But you know, she's just so nurturing and gentle,
and so she's coaching me throughthis process, essentially of
what I'm feeling, what I'm goingthrough, like trying to get me
comfortable, trying to keep mymind right, like like keep my
mind on the objective and not bedistracted, and like keep the

(34:09):
focus of just like you canprocess what you're feeling.
You can process what you'refeeling like Anywho walking
through it.
But as soon as I thought Icouldn't take it anymore, right,
I'm like skip, it Ain't noreason to be in this level of
pain Epidural.
Then I was like I feel like Igot to use the bathroom and
they're like you got to use thebathroom.
And I'm like, yeah, this isbefore.

(34:29):
They didn't, they didn't havethe chance to give me the
epidural right, and they're likelet me check you really quick,
check me.
Oh, here she goes, she's ready,I feel hair Right.
And so I use that analogy justto say, as soon as I felt like I
couldn't take it anymore, itwas time, right, and here comes

(34:51):
the blessing.
And so I think that that thatthat makes me think of the
change process is like you'restretched, you're uncomfortable,
you're being pulled in theseareas that are so unfamiliar and
it feels so taxing mentally, um, um, because you're, you're

(35:11):
discovering new parts ofyourself, because you're being
pushed further in the knowing ofyourself than than you, than
you had had to go before.
And it's that self discoveryright.
And as soon as you feel like er, the guy says here's the
blessing See, you got this, yougot this, and, and that's how I

(35:33):
think about it.
And so any who that I, just anywho it's that.
It's that change though, thatthat that I think people that
discomfort in that change, thatthat makes people so afraid and
anxious to go through thatprocess.

Jacquelyn (35:49):
Mm, hmm, the lack of when you feel like there's a
lack of control, um, and you,for me, I don't think that there
, that I was, um, that I was inthat part of the space of the
lack of control.
With that, I think that it wasme wanting answers, yeah, so I

(36:16):
guess that may be control Mewanting answers Needing to know.

Jenelle (36:21):
I need to know, yeah, yeah.

Jacquelyn (36:25):
And and being able to see the results of whatever it
was that I was doing or thinking, or you know, am I being able
to progress?
Um, let me just be very clear.
I am continuing to be in thisspace of loving, um, what I am

(36:46):
getting to explore about myself.
Mm, hmm.
Um, it is amazing.

Jenelle (36:51):
I'll just say it is amazing no need to dig for the
word when it's right there.
It's amazing, damn it.

Jacquelyn (36:59):
It is just being able to uh, but being able to be
open about my exploration, aboutmyself and and I'm still me, I
am still who I've always been.
There's just so much more thatI am that I am getting familiar

(37:22):
with.
Um and uh.
Yeah, it's just.
It is an awesome feeling atthis age in space being able to
learn so many new things aboutyourself.

Jenelle (37:32):
Come on, cause, listen, I say this all the time Like
people when my birthday rollsaround and they're like how old
are you?
You're going to be 20 something.

Jacquelyn (37:40):
Ha, ha ha ha, I am proud of myself already 25 again
.

Jenelle (37:42):
No ma'am you give me all my years, I mean I earned
all of these things and I loveit here, like I love it here,
hey y'all 30 somethings, 20somethings, 20 somethings, 40
somethings is old and somethingRight Like like ma'am.

Jacquelyn (38:01):
Oh, this is my best space, ma'am.
It is my absolute best space.
And I will be honest and sayingI felt, even before my
transition into this, I stillwas feeling like this is amazing
space.

(38:21):
Yes, I was getting to createevery bit of what that was.
I was, I was open to every bitof the changes that I was going
through then in my life,transitioning in such a massive
way, in such a short, quickamount of time.
Then there's a lot of otherthings that you're forced to, to

(38:46):
recognize and to see and to, Idon't know, deal with.

Jenelle (38:51):
Yeah, but so did that.
Yep, did it.
Yeah, came, came throughkicking down doors.
Y'all in.
My sister has a new business,me too, I too.

Jacquelyn (39:07):
I too, tell us about that.
I am so excited about this.
I have been Happy hands, happyhands, mm-hmm.
I was trying not.
They're literally sitting downunderneath my.

Jenelle (39:22):
These ryan teal hands, these blades don't move.

Jacquelyn (39:26):
They're literally tucked away.
So I don't just start, yeah,but yes, I am in again such a
privileged place of peopleentrusting me with some of the
most intimate spaces of theirlife.
I am getting to partner withpeople to who want to make

(39:55):
changes in their life Mm-hmm andjust need that extra support,
yeah, and extra ear and somehelp planning and organizing and
helping them prioritizethroughout their journey getting
to that vision that they seefor themselves.

(40:17):
So it's so exciting, it's soexciting, it's so fun.
It has been an amazing, amazingexperience for me.

Jenelle (40:27):
Sometimes it's just about like like accountability
systems, right, like you have itin your head, yeah, the things
that you want for your life, theway that you envision living
your life.
But applying those things andmaking them happen can be
challenging sometimes, whensometimes you might lack in the

(40:49):
accountability system.
Sometimes you might lack thecapacity, and what I mean by
capacity is our life is sofilled with so many other things
, that's not that you're notcapable, it's having the
capacity to help plan the nextsteps or plan the things that
are necessary to move your lifein the direction that you want

(41:10):
it.
I remember I wanted to writemore.
For folks who know me, you knowI love to write, whether that's
journaling, whether that ispoetry, whether that is just
random thoughts, whatever right.
And I had dinner one time withone of my mentors and a teacher

(41:36):
who listens she's a writer.
Die because she's been therefor many of young people.

Jacquelyn (41:41):
Hold on which I was so jealous.
I was very jealous that I didnot have the opportunity to
experience this said teacher,who, everyone, everyone I had
never met one person.
Now, my sisters and brothers,y'all all got to experience.

(42:05):
I did not, and not because ofthe teacher, it was me and where
I was in that time, I'm sure.
But yeah, I just need to throwit out there that I did not get
this amazing experience.

Jenelle (42:21):
Well, she's amazing.
Shout out to Linda MayChristensen.
Okay, and you know, she she'sconnected to many of her former
students still to this day.
I am one of them that I look toher if I write something that I
really feel like emotionallyconnected to, and it's been a
while since I've done that, butI'll send it over to her so she

(42:42):
can give me feedback.
Anywho, I was telling her Iwanted to write more and in this
dinner, and she was like kindof like, well, what's stopping
you, you know?
And I was like, oh, you know,had these reasons in my head and
she said, oh, you need anassignment.
Yes.
You need an assignment.
You need an.
This is why I love her, though,right, because she, she knows

(43:06):
who you are.
She, she, she, like, she knowsand remembers who you are, even
as you've evolved.
Right, she understands whatlives in you, but also
understands, you know, you trulyconnects, yeah, and you've
grown up and you know, but sheknows.
And so she heard in that momentlike mm-hmm, mm-hmm, and she

(43:28):
said you don't have the capacityright to determine what comes
next in this step of writingmore.
You need an assignment, and Iwas like buzz her heart Like.

Jacquelyn (43:39):
I love her so much.

Jenelle (43:41):
Like I love her so much .
But I think that that is some,not this.
That is a small piece of whatyou do, but I think that's part
of it, for people is sometimespeople just that accountability
system, that assignment, and sotalk about, talk about what you

(44:02):
offer and and who we talking?
Families, are we talking?
Individuals Are we talking to?
Are we talking couples?
Are we talking to tell?
Tell girls help, we're talkingall of that.

Jacquelyn (44:13):
We are talking all of that In order to for a family
to be strong and moving towardsthe same vision, then the
individuals in the family alsoneed to be able to be putting in

(44:34):
the I don't like using the wordwork, but it does come out so
automatically.
Yeah, yeah.
So putting in that effort, yeah, putting in that effort to make
the necessary changes oradjustments that are needed.

Jenelle (44:51):
So maybe acknowledgement and effort,
because we have to acknowledgethat there is work to do right,
and then that knowledge,accountability and effort.

Jacquelyn (45:02):
Are you willing to be able to put that work in for
what it is that you want, foryourself or for your family?
Come on, for your relationship.
Come on and trust me, every bitof that is something I have had
to ask myself numerous times.
With three kids, all of mybonuses?

(45:28):
Yes, and it is a it has.
Well, I know the challengeswith that.
I have a lot of empathy andcompassion for others, as they

(45:49):
are recognizing that they are.
Maybe they could be strugglingwith figuring it out.
They could be just seeingsomething and saying, hey, yeah,
I'm going to need a little bitof direction.
Yeah, or that whole.
I don't necessarily have thetime for all of the thinking

(46:13):
part of this.
What could a good plan looklike for me?
If this is my life, this is mylifestyle, this is how my world
looks.
What kind of plan can we puttogether to be able to help me

(46:33):
get to where it is that I'mtrying to get to?
And it requires a lot ofopenness and honesty and
conversation and then thateffort on a consistent basis.
But, yeah, couples, individuals, families, I work with them all

(46:55):
.

Jenelle (46:56):
Yes, and we should note that this is not in replacement
of therapy.
Sorry, I needed to say thatloud and loud.

Jacquelyn (47:05):
Loud and clear.
Let me get closer to themicrophone, loud and clear into
the mic.
No, mine is strictly just forthe planning of the
organizational part of your lifein space, being able to assist

(47:25):
you with organizing, beingcreative, being able to be
creative with some new ideas andnew thoughts and new techniques
and tactics, if you want tocall them that.
I like to call them techniques,yeah, to be able to utilize and
implement in your space, inyour life, the change you hope

(47:47):
to affect in people's lives.
My hope is is with theconnections that I make with
these individuals and couples,families and whatnot that that
they are able to this word oftengets overused, but follow me

(48:12):
that they feel empowered, butthey're feeling empowered to
create a vision and change thatvision.
As we grow, as we learnourselves, as we are gaining new
feelings, new thoughts, newexperiences, but feeling

(48:35):
empowered that that you havethat ability, you have that here
at all times.
it's about being able to uncoverthat, and I know it can sound
frustrating to people whenpeople tell them that it's like
no, just tell me how to getthere.
Everybody's journey isdifferent.

(48:57):
Everybody's journey looksdifferent, feels different, and
it is again.
The effort that we're puttingin is going to allow us to have
the better experience throughthat process.
So I just hope for me.

Jenelle (49:18):
I hope that I'm able to continue to encourage that, and
so I don't know if we failed tosay it, but I'm sitting here
trying to remember.
Did we ever say living withJacqueline?
Living with Jacqueline is is,is the business name?
Yeah, living with Jacqueline,and tell them how to find you,

(49:43):
reach you, and then what?
The process is right.
Because here's what I imagine.
This is what Janelle imagines.
Yes not Jacqueline.
Okay, yes, I imagine thatbecause you are so like
intertwined on a community leveland you know so many people and

(50:04):
everyone.
Yeah, my sister established awaitlist for her child, right,
like there were people who wereconstantly checking in, like
hoping to get their their, theirlittle people in with Listen.
I was so glad, I know.

Jacquelyn (50:21):
I know like it was amazing families.

Jenelle (50:24):
It's like they kept having kids and and one of your
children went, like you want allof your children to have that
experience, right.
But so what I imagine is thatthere's probably people that
would try to reach out to yououtside of the process.
So so what I want to encouragepeople to do, as her sister, is

(50:52):
this is understand.
This is a business right, andthis is a beautiful thing that
she has designed to continue thework that she was doing in a
new way, on a larger scale, andthat we should all, when
desiring those services, valueand respect it in a way that

(51:17):
says we need to go through theproper channels and do the
proper things and not try to getthis goodness on the side,
right.
And so I'm going to ask mysister here To explain the
process, and then I need all ofyou beautiful people to

(51:40):
understand and respect theprocess and abide by the process
.
He is so open and beautiful andnice and generous and kind.
That is not a reason for you tobypass process because she is

(52:00):
so open and accessible.
I'm saying that for her.
Okay, as her sister, I wouldappreciate that you act
accordingly.
Okay, we all know she'swonderful.
We all know she's a blessing tomany and all.
Okay, so please handle her withcare.
That is her sister.
Now I'm going to get out of theway and I'm going to let my

(52:26):
sister talk about this processthat y'all need to write down,
Remember.
Take a picture of it.

Jacquelyn (52:36):
And it's actually very, very, very.
The process part is the simplepart.
Wonderful, yes, and the processis individuals understanding
that they deserve this process,families understanding that you
deserve being to be able to gothrough the process.

(52:58):
Process is pretty simple.
You are able to go to mywebsite and you can go to my
website with Jacquelinecom.
Well, and I'll say you younger,younger ones have zero idea.

Jenelle (53:22):
Yeah, I don't know what that is, but that's how I
learned how to spell my name andthat's how we learned how to
spell her name to the MickeyMouse song.

Jacquelyn (53:28):
For those of y'all who have zero reference here you
can go to my website, livingwith Jacquelinecom and, pretty
simple.
There is a book button and youcan get book an appointment, a
free consultation, so we canchat a little bit, see what it

(53:49):
is that, what changes it is thatyou're wanting to be making
your life or your family's lifefor with your partner, and then
make sure that you know we arefor each other, because I mean,
you know great, as they think myservices are and I am then you

(54:11):
know everybody, we're alldifferent, so I just wanted to
make sure that we are a goodmatch and that it is something
that I am able to assist youwith.
And, yeah, book the freeconsultation and now look at
that y'all it is.

Jenelle (54:31):
he's making it easy for y'all.
Book the free.
Oh yes, consultation, yes, bookthe free, free consultations,
just 30 minutes book.

Jacquelyn (54:43):
Book it press book.
Choose your date, Choose yourtime.
Tell me your name.
And how I can contact you.

Jenelle (54:53):
Did you hear the simplicity there?
It's very, very key is booking.
Yes, you booked the 30 minuteconsult.
You can ask the questions youneed to ask.
She can ask the questions sheneeds to ask is free.
It's don't send her no text.
Don't send her no DM.

(55:13):
Don't stop her on the street.
Don't bother her at dinner.
This is her sister, okay, okay,I'm this ain't her.
This is her sister because Ijust know people.
Okay, would y'all protect mysister please?
I love it.
Book, book.

(55:34):
Take your Twitter fingers, goto the website, type in those
numbers Book the 30 minuteconsult.
Yes, oh, free for free.

Jacquelyn (55:49):
Yes, yes.

Jenelle (55:52):
And then you can decide if this is something for you.
Absolutely, you can decide ifthis is something that she feels
would work for you.
If this would be acollaboration, that would be
right.
So we're talking.
I mean, you know, you mightcall it a life coach or a life
collaborator, I don't know,ain't he?
What's your preference here?

Jacquelyn (56:11):
It's very funny, as much as I don't necessarily like
the term life coach, because Ithink that that's people don't
necessarily know what that means, but it is really being able to
collaborate, being able to dothis together.
Make sure that it is.
I mean, it's tailored to you.
That's the deal.

(56:31):
It is tailored to you.
You get a plan that is specificto your needs, yeah, and and
then I am there with youthroughout your process.
I have different packages.
We can do three months, whichis usually about 12 individual

(56:56):
one hour sessions.
So you do one hour once a weekand usually like to start off at
that three month mark becauseyou want to be able to set the
plan and get into the processand be able to start seeing some
significant change and be ableto start maintaining that change

(57:22):
.
But there's three months, sixmonths, we 12 months and, yeah,
get us being in this in a newspace, yeah, feeling different.
Yeah, you know, able to achievesome things.
It's from empty nesters tryingto figure out what the heck is

(57:44):
my life.
But I've had kids for all thistime and I'm looking around and
I'm saying hold on, there's me,there's me.

Jenelle (57:54):
I remember what was that?
The episode that I did with the.
It was Latia and Chanel, andyou know they are younger,
beautiful, successful, youngwomen who who are married and

(58:14):
and you know they were talkingabout their experiences and you
know perception of married, allof the things right.
But one of the points that wetalked about in that episode was
like I think it was Chanel andshe was like I take my husband
his plate first and everyone'slike you feed your kids first.
She's like I feed my husbandfirst, Right, and so I think
just, even even in that space Imean that's an example of like,

(58:38):
a mindset right of like I'mtaking care of my marriage first
because if we're good, our kidsare going to be foundation
Right.
And being able to like, justeven shift some mindsets and I
don't want to go intoparticulars, I'll stop from that
about, like you know, what youknow people might explore with
you.
But I think the point is, isthat there there are such a

(58:59):
range of things.
Everyone's life is unique.
Everyone is at a differentspace, at a different place.
What a person might be lookingto or needing to achieve in you
know, in short term, or and orlong term, it's different, and I
think that is the pointdetermining that for yourself,

(59:22):
not not against compared tosomebody else, but for you, and
and and the life you want tolive.
Is that how it said?
Ain't it Is that?
Oh?
So, for those that don't know,this is my sister back caller.
Ain't he?
Oh, yeah, because me and Idon't want anybody to be

(59:42):
confused, and that's partiallybecause of all of the littles.
Yes, we call each other.
We have cousins that call us.
Ain't we do just?
Yes, it's very confusing whenyou're in the middle of it.

Jacquelyn (59:56):
Yes, people do Wait.
The question is always posed,however, yes, and that can be
very confusing.

Jenelle (01:00:05):
We have cousins that call us.
Ain't our cousins kids thatcall us?
Ain't he yes, or ain't he ouruncles?
And the I mean the uncles arethe same way.
It's just, it's a family thing.
Forgive us, but don't beconfused in this conversation.
This is my sister.
Yes, I call her, ain't he also?
I don't even remember what Iwas saying before that, but I

(01:00:26):
felt like I need to clarify thatbefore.
People were like what is goingon?
Anywho, one of the things thatI want to make sure that we talk
about before this goes and getseven more long winded here is
y'all know what I'm capable ofI'm going to say you can't get
both of us together and thinkI've been mid sentence and been
like OK, zip it for a second.

(01:00:49):
And listen.
It's real, because this is likesister chat for us and y'all
just happen to be listening andtrying to throw some things out
there for y'all.
But Keep me on track.
I want to talk about some ofyour daily practices and I talk

(01:01:13):
about how I'm super routine andhow you know there's things that
, for me, I have to I execute inthis order, and this is for me
and this is for what keeps mymind in my, you know, my, my
heart, my spirit.
All of those things aligned arethese things, and I think that

(01:01:35):
we're in two very differentfields, but a lot of what we
both do is is serving otherpeople, the exchange of energy,
pouring into and being aresource to other people, and
but I do want to say that, inthat there is this like there's

(01:01:58):
this exchange, right, we arealso gaining something from.
The work that we're learningabout other people, we're
learning about ourselves, we'relearning about right.
So it is an even exchange andand also the feeling that you
get it.
That in itself is a blessing,when you know you are giving of
yourself to someone else.

(01:02:18):
So I want to say that, so I'mnot trying to sound like All of
this giving like some dramaticthing but my point is is that it
takes a lot from you when youare doing it from the right
place right and and and so Iwant you to talk to the people

(01:02:40):
About some of your, some of aroutine job I really want for
myself I just have not gainedthe discipline for them yet, but
is thatgirl I.
I have small moments ofmeditation in the morning.
You're a really goodfacilitator of like longer

(01:03:02):
meditation.
You have a regular workoutschedule.
We know that that has been ajoke for me.
Okay, let's Post pandemicduring the pandemic right.
Like that has been a joke forme and again in previous
episodes I could hear when shebought me workout stuff for my
birthday.

Jacquelyn (01:03:21):
Like she's gonna work out girl.
She did say.
She said and I wanted to help,assist, encourage Workout job.
Yes, if you're gonna do it,let's do it.

Jenelle (01:03:34):
But that right Some of even in getting your vitamin D,
getting outside, even when it'scold, but getting outside I mean
, you know what I mean Like youhave very intentional practices
daily that I think are veryimportant.
I think it's important foranybody to have a routine right,

(01:03:55):
but you know, in clearing outthe space that you need to clear
to be available to other people, those daily routines are just
so important.
So talk about some of yourdaily practices.
Take us through no seriouslylike what's important to you to

(01:04:17):
make sure that you do every dayright In order to be who you
need to be to other people inthis work, and just every day
right and for myself.

Jacquelyn (01:04:28):
It is something that really started a long time ago.
I was not always good with itin my early parenting years,
caught up in the shuffle and allthat Didn't even understand
where I was supposed to putanytime from me, and so I'll
spare the whole story.
I mean the story that was aboutto come out of my mouth, you

(01:04:51):
see it.

Jenelle (01:04:52):
It did so well for yourself.
You wanna tell the story?
I didn't get it.
It didn't get visual, it justdidn't meet.

Jacquelyn (01:04:59):
But yeah, usually my days consist Every day my
morning starts off with mymorning prayer and I also have a
gratitude list, usually threeto five things that I am

(01:05:21):
grateful for.
I find that that's reallyimportant.
I find prayer and the gratitudelist is extremely important.
But knowing being able toverbalize, vocalize the things
that I am grateful for, justpicking out a couple Every day,

(01:05:41):
that's always.
It keeps me kind of present andappreciative, I feel.
And meditation, that is listen,that thing.
There there's nothing likeprayer.

(01:06:03):
Don't ever get me wrong.
Very, yeah, to differate things, one does not replace the other
At all.
Meditation is about mecentering.
Me Of me connecting with me.
Yeah.
It allows me to center myself,it allows me to really have a

(01:06:30):
sense of focus, a sense of peace.
Yeah.
And a sense of calm.
I can be more on the highenergy.
As quiet as I can be, I can beon the high energy side, and so
that meditation has been a lifechanger, and I did start out

(01:06:56):
with just five minutes a daywhen I very first started.

Jenelle (01:06:59):
I was gonna ask that because it's a growth.
Meditation is a growth process,Like I remember.
Do you remember this?
And I was like I tried tomeditate today and then I woke
up.
Yes, yeah, I was sitting.
I didn't sit on the floor, Iwas sitting on my couch and
there's not any specific.
I mean, people may have bestpractices and what works best,

(01:07:21):
but I was like I'm gonna justfold up my legs here, I'm gonna
cross them, I'm gonna sit up andI'm gonna just on my couch, I'm
just gonna close my eyes andmeditate.
Ciao.
And I woke up.

Jacquelyn (01:07:32):
I fell asleep.
She can fall asleep anywhere Ican I can.
So that's almost not fair.
But However, however,meditation there you will hear
people say that.
You will absolutely hear peoplesay that I learned very early
that I had to be initiallyuncomfortable.
As we go back to that, yeah,yeah, I had to be uncomfortable

(01:07:55):
in order to get comfortable inthe meditation space.
I had to push myself throughthe jitters, I had to push
myself through the oh wait, am Idozing off?
But that also meant that I wasgaining more focus here, that I
was getting more center here.

(01:08:16):
I can't doze off if I amconnected here and so, yes, that
is, if I meditate 10 minutes orif I meditate 30 minutes, it is
all what my body is feelinglike it's needing and what's how

(01:08:39):
I'm connecting with it.
As to how I do that, butmeditation is in my daily
practice.
It is several times a day.
Yeah, it is several times a day, small little chunks throughout
the day.
Again, my body kind of runs alittle bit more high energy, the

(01:09:01):
thoughts are going on a regularand creativity Words are there.
So being able to sit and dothat five quick minutes, see,
this is why I believe in and wewill not go down this rabbit
hole.

Jenelle (01:09:17):
But this is why I also believe in meditation in schools
and I think of this as a way toget into meditation and think
of this, like I watched some ofthe experiments happening where
people are for younger childrenand I don't think that there's
an age limit on it in the schooldesign that when they're
struggling in the class, theycan go to a meditation session

(01:09:42):
Versus if someone misbehaved,instead of going and being
reprimanded like if someone'smisbehaving there's likely a
reason.
And in teaching here's thething, y'all, here's the thing
coping right, how to manage theway that they are feeling,
whatever's causing them to actout, whatever is causing this

(01:10:06):
challenge.
Or like teaching them how tocope with it.
Like what tools?
Okay, no, I said I wasn't goingto do it.
I'm not going to do it but Ibelieve it in the schools and I
believe that for adults also,who are learning how to make
decisions or learning how torespond in a non-emotional way,

(01:10:30):
right that you're taking theopportunity to recalibrate
throughout the day and I don'tmeditate throughout the day like
my sister does, but I will timeout and I will like turn my
chair towards the window whenI'm at work and I'll look out

(01:10:51):
the window and just breathe andjust like appreciate it If it's
cold outside but the sun isshining through warm, I'm
sitting there in that sun.
And I'm right, like it's theawareness right yeah, anywho, I
won't take us down a wholeopposite direction, but and and
those are all great things wesaw.

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My sister is posting contentthese days and y'all got a
glimpse of her workout room.

Jacquelyn (01:11:19):
Oh.

Jenelle (01:11:21):
Follow her on IG.

Jacquelyn (01:11:23):
Okay, yes, I am on IG , living with Jacqueline on IG,
and yes, that see, this is why Isay I could have went on and on
and on.
That was a whole change and awhole challenge for me of
exposure.
Another story another time.

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But yes, I do have a littleworkout room, but I it's cute,
y'all it's cute Bunch ofdifferent stuff.
But, yeah, I get to do my yoga.
I really do enjoy yoga.
I switch up my workouts duringthe week.
Yeah, running Love it.
I do love running Jiu-jitsu.

(01:12:04):
I do love my jiu-jitsu.
I'm gonna kick my ass.

Jenelle (01:12:08):
My sister is a lethal weapon.
Y'all Try her if you want to.

Jacquelyn (01:12:12):
I'm not, I am not.

Jenelle (01:12:15):
Yeah, listen, it is fun .
Oh, I'll be in.
No, I'm not telling them thestory about when you say body
slam me.
I'm not gonna put you in yoursense on blast about being body
slammed in a session.
I will not.
I will not.
But listeners.
So y'all know I do not yet havethe discipline for any mixed

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martial arts.
Nothing, not, nothing, nothing.
I am not disciplined enough, Ido not have the restraint, I do
not have the temperament, I'mnot built for it.
Yet we're not gonna talk aboutyour sensei body slamming me.
What I'm gonna talk about is mebeing asleep in her guest room.

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Y'all, she be in there gettingbusy.
She turn on the music and shebe in there Kss, kss, kss.
I'll be like, oh, she's akiller.
She be in there getting it.
Yeah, it's impressive.
Oh my gosh Heating that bag up.
Anywho she's very regular.

(01:13:20):
It's very, it's very, it's veryawesome.
I love it.
So you have your prayer, youhave your meditations, you have
your daily movement workout.
What else I?

Jacquelyn (01:13:34):
love writing and whether it's short or long,
whether I keep it or toss it out, putting the pencil, I love old
school pencil.
It is so hilarious.
I love old school number twopencil with that kindergarten

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eraser.

Jenelle (01:13:57):
The good eraser not these gummy joints that they own
.
What is that?
What even is that Like?
Why we used to call these whenwe were kids that would be the
bad eraser, the ones that aregummy.
But why are all erasers beingmade in this format?
Like who do I talk to?
Who started creating these?

(01:14:18):
Why are they this way?
Why do they smear?
The lead.
Like it doesn't erase, Likewhat is this?
What is this nonsense?
It offends me actually,Anything.

Jacquelyn (01:14:30):
Right, but yeah, those are some of the things.
But my normal daily routine isthat prayer, gratitude,
meditation and whatever bodymovement.

Jenelle (01:14:44):
Okay, well, I'm gonna start wrapping this up because
otherwise we'll be here for awhole another hour shooting the
breeze.
But listen, I am so gratefulthat we got to have this moment
together and I'm so happy foryou in this work that you are
doing and continuing to grow andyour desire and, I believe,

(01:15:12):
calling to partner withindividuals and families.
I think you know we've alleveryone who knows you right has
been able to just watch the waythat you, as an individual,

(01:15:36):
have cared for and grown through, taking care of yourself and
your family, right, and we alllove the beauty of it.
And you know, being able to beon this journey of the highs,
the lows, the ups, the downs,the twists, the curves, the all
of the things, and watch youchampion each leg of the journey

(01:16:00):
, you know, with such grace andtransparency and vulnerability,
it has really helped to givepeople, onlookers, observers of
your life right, the ability tosee the truth about what it
means to exist, what it means tocultivate family, what it means

(01:16:27):
to be human, what it means tobe a mother, what it means to be
a wife.
And I would equally, eventhough you know, probably not by
choice but by way of you youknow your husband as well, right

(01:16:48):
, right, oh, shout out to UnclePooch.
We love him, but he's been alongfor the ride and things that he
probably didn't see for himselfhas been on the ride, the
journey, the you know, rightalongside with you and in ways
that he probably did not seehimself sharing or being open to

(01:17:11):
or transparent about withothers.
He has been as much as, just asmuch as, you right, I'm sharing
of himself and experiences, andso I think that, just as a
society or as a community I'llstart there when we are taught,
what happens in your house staysin your house.

(01:17:33):
You know you paint this picture, you white picket fence, but
there's a reality that happens,that people grow through and go
through and watching people howpeople do.
That is what teaches us aboutthe reality, so that we're not
going into these situations orlife experiences for ourselves

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with this fairy tale.
Understanding.

Jacquelyn (01:18:00):
There's been no fairy tale, but it has been beautiful
right.
It's been beautiful.

Jenelle (01:18:04):
It's been beautiful, but that has been, and I'll
speak for myself as, like justyou know, as your sister, but
also an observer of life.
People are only allowed toobserve what you allow them to,
right.
And so I've just learned somuch just about myself as a

(01:18:26):
woman, myself as a mother,myself as a future wife, right,
like I've been able to learnthose things by watching you,
and it's been able to remove thefairy tale but appreciate, you
know, the process of developingand becoming, and it's that it's
becoming right, building thatwe get to do together together

(01:18:50):
we don't agree on everything weget to respect each other and
keep each other front and centerin every thought, decision that
we are making in our day, to beable to then build our self
well and build the relationshipwell.

Jacquelyn (01:19:09):
So yeah, I will not go further.

Jenelle (01:19:11):
Yeah, I'm trying to keep it in a nutshell here, but
I think that that also speaks tothe expertise like people, the
expertise and the just thegained experience that you have
right In creating a life foryourself that you and your

(01:19:34):
husband desire to have foryourselves and your family, and
so I thank you for that, and I'mjust very excited about this
because I know that you have somuch to offer people in terms of
doing the same thing forthemselves, supporting them in

(01:19:55):
doing the same things forthemselves in their own unique
way, and so this is excitingwork.
I'm excited y'all go to herwebsite.
They can subscribe to yourwebsite and if you are at a
place where you are looking tocreate something different for

(01:20:21):
yourself, if you are in a spacewhere you are wanting to
implement a vision for yourself,for your family, if you are at
a place in life where, as amother, you want to start
redefining the foundation thatyou're laying for your children

(01:20:43):
and how you move that forward,like all of the things right, go
to her website, schedule aconsult, see if it's a fit for
you.
We are responsible for ourlives.
We're responsible for our ownindividual happiness.
We are responsible for thosethings and sometimes the world

(01:21:04):
can cloudy that can muddy thatso much, cloudy that can muddy
those waters so much, andsometimes we just need to be
able to clear some of that outand see the way forward, and
sometimes that takes a littlebit of support in order to do
that, and so I just really Iknow that part of the reason

(01:21:27):
that you do this work is becauseyou want happy and healthy
individuals and families and youwant to strengthen your
community, and I believe thatyou will continue to do this at
a high level.
So proud of you, grateful foryou and y'all.
Take care of my sister In thiswork that she does be good to

(01:21:50):
her, nurture her, go subscribe,go follow her on IG, schedule
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