June 3, 2025 • 61 mins
Marc and Claire Headley host an impromptu Q&A session addressing audience questions about their experiences in Scientology's Sea Organization and life after leaving the cult.
• Marc shares the infamous "Theta Potato" story about Scientologists using "postulates" to disable a parking enforcement officer's vehicle
• Claire reveals she was removed from her position and put in "the hole" for refusing to divorce Marc at David Miscavige's insistence
• Discussion of Miscavige's abusive leadership style and creation of "Pie Face" badges to humiliate staff members
• Explanation of how Scientology financially exploits members by charging full retail prices for items that cost pennies to produce
• Details about the Freewinds ship being a financial burden that has never been profitable
• Information about how police corruption investigations regarding Scientology are underway
• Personal reflections on adjusting to normal life after escaping Scientology, with freedom of time and food choices being most surprising
• Clarification of how L. Ron Hubbard Way in Los Angeles was renamed through financial influence
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey guys, welcome back to the channel.
We're going to do a live Q&Atonight on the Blown for Good
channel.
Let's get Claire in here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello, good evening.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We had actually already planned to do this, but
then Claire ended up joininganother stream, so we debated
whether we were going to do itor not and then I decided we
were still going to go ahead anddo it.
So give everybody a few minutesto get here If you're set up
for notifications.
I did a post.
I realized I could do a post onthe channel and then that would
(00:47):
go out to people right awayletting people know that we're
going to be live at 6.
But for all the people whodidn't get that other notice,
we'll just find out whereeverybody's watching from
tonight.
We like to do that to see whereeverybody's coming from, and we
can also put up.
We get to show some of yourposts when to do that to see, uh
, where everybody's coming from,and we can also put up.
We get to, you know, show, showsome of your posts when we do
(01:08):
that.
So for those people who like tosee their name in lights, we've
got uh.
Um.
There we go.
We got ann from perth.
Good morning from perth.
Um, we've got um.
We've got somebody fromclearwater, poland.
Daily Owl Charlotte from Kent.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Here, let me put up one real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, lathunda Grocklinger, and she's from.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
She didn't say where she's coming from.
I think she's from Germany, ifI remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, there you go, very good.
Then we got Abigail fromRochester and somebody said
Laura is too loud.
I think that's on anotherstream, dude.
I don't think that's on thisone.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Unfortunately we don't have Laura's volume
adjustment on this channel.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
We don't.
Bakersfield, calgary, waterloo,ontario, clearwater, buffalo
Ridge Mountains, poland.
That's the same person who saidthey were from Clearwater,
poland.
I see, yes.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
There you go yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Michigan, louisville, kingston, wow.
We got a lot of people from alot of different places
Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Texas, phoenix, houston, fort Worth.
A lot of people, a lot ofpeople from a lot of different
places Got about 400 people inhere so far.
I didn't know if are they stilllive on that other video?
Oh yeah, they are.
So if, um, are they still liveon that other video?
Oh, yeah, they are.
So, amy, and those guys arestill alive.
So we might see some um peoplepop, pop in uh when they wrap up
(02:52):
over there.
But, um, but yeah, we wanted touh, we wanted to update you
guys, um, just any questionspeople had and um, what else we
had.
Um's another um, I think uh,aaron's probably not done a
video about it already, but Ithink there was a thing about uh
(03:13):
, was it the irs going afterbijou and danny for uh, for a
few, a few bucks in taxes thatthey didn't pay?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
oh, and um I mean they're?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
they're just getting hits, hits left, right and
center over there inScientologyville and it just
seems to be a never endingsource of nonsense over there
right now.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yep, not a good day to be in a cult, folks.
Not a good year to be in a cult.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yep, not a good year to be in a cult.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Let's just see If you guys have got questions we've
got about what?
Are we up to 500, 400, 400 to500 people in here right now?
Yep, if you guys have gotquestions that you would like us
to address, get in there.
Get them in the chat.
It doesn't only have to be asuper chat or a or a super
sticker that we'll take, but, um, we will.
(04:07):
Um, gino Dean Mark, can you?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
tell the story in the house Can?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
you tell the Theta potato story for new people who
have never heard it.
(04:35):
Um, one of the funniest storiesI ever heard.
One of the funniest stories Iever heard.
I guess I can tell it realquick.
So thanks for that.
In Los Angeles would go afterwork on a weekday and that's
when they would go to theHollywood location and they'd go
on course or they'd get theirauditing or whatever.
And when I was a kid we wentthere every night of the week.
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My mom would go on course andmy sister and I would also go on
course at the same time.
So we would do school from 830to 530.
We'd get off of school, eatfast food on the way home from
La Cunada to Hollywood and thenwe would get dropped off and we
would go to a course at theScientology Center from seven to
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10 o'clock at night.
And when we would do that wewould have to get a parking
space at the Scientology Centerand it was nearly impossible At
that time.
L Ron Hubbard Way was called.
I think it was called Catalina,I don't know the actual.
I think it was Catalina Avenue.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Whatever the street was that went, that's now called
.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It wasn't Berendo right.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Maybe it was Berendo actually Could have been Berendo
, anyway, whatever the streetwas that went, that's now called
, it wasn't Berendo, right?
Maybe it was Berendo actuallyCould have been Berendo, anyway,
whatever the street name wasany of those streets around
there, there were parking, therewas street parking.
Now it's all cobblestoned andthere's no parking on any of
that area there, but it used tobe parking both sides up and
down the street.
There used to be parkinggarages and a giant parking lot
and with all of that it wasimpossible to find a parking
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space.
And that's how manyScientologists there were in the
1980s.
There was so much that all ofthe lots and all of the parking
garages and all of the streetparking, there was no place to
park.
And there was a parking.
The parking enforcement personwould come around, like at 7.15.
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So all the Scientologists wouldpark in front of hydrants and
park in spots that they didn'tput change in and they do all
that.
And so then, when all theScientologists would go into the
course rooms and all theseScientology organizations there
in Hollywood, the parking meterwould just go around and give
everybody tickets.
And so there was a guy who Icould always go around with with
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pockets of quarters and he'dput money in the meters that
were that were going to expirewhen the parking person got
there and he would fill themeters and if you saw the guy,
you'd throw him a buck or twobecause he was the guy who put
all the quarters in.
And this guy was feverishlygoing through one night and
putting quarters in and he ranout of quarters and the parking
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enforcement person was justabout to come and give this car
a ticket and he saw the parkingattendant see that there was a
meter that was expired, but theywere on the other side of the
street or something like that.
So they went, they got back totheir car and this guy this is
(07:33):
the way the story went aroundwas this guy postulated for, for
.
For those of you who don't knowwhat that means, in Scientology,
when you postulate something,it's just like you have a
thought or an intention forsomething to happen and with
your mind you're not doing.
I mean, it's just, you have athought, I'm going to this is, I
want this to happen anyway.
So this, this quarter guy, hehad the thought I would, I would
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like a I'm postulating a thetapotato in the tailpipe of the
parking enforcement person, andso that's what he did.
He was like Ooh theta potato inthe tailpipe person, and so
that's what he did.
He was like Ooh Theta potato inthe tailpipe.
And then when the parkingenforcement person went to to
start the car, a car wouldn'tstart.
It literally was just, it wasdead and they had to get a tow
(08:15):
truck and they had to do thiswhole thing but the person never
got to give that guy a ticketand um and so he.
Everybody was praising this guyfor putting a Theta potato in
the tailpipe of the parkingattendant.
And and this is in Scientologythere's a magazine called the
Advance magazine and it's themagazine of the advanced
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organization of Los Angeles andwhenever they have these OT
phenomena stories in there it'salways about a parking space a
Scientologist found with theirmind or an accident that they
didn't get into with their mind,or they got into an accident
(08:57):
but with their mind they made itso they didn't get hurt or
injured.
It's always automobile-relatedor very frequently, high
(09:18):
percentage of those for sure.
Ot message to my husband topick up lemon juice and then on
his way home he was like youknow what?
I just thought I would pick upsome lemon juice Cause I
realized we were going to havefish and I didn't know if we.
And then it's like, oh, I sentyou that message.
Um, we just have like an Applenote, you know, for the shopping
list.
That's much easier, it's alsomore reliable, it's more
(09:41):
reliable?
Um, anyway, um.
So yeah, there's your thetapotato question.
Uh, cody Mac says is it truethat when Scientologists
volunteer to donate money forthe way to happiness booklets,
they have to pay full retail,full retail for each book?
Yes, that's exactly true.
So Scientology has this little.
(10:03):
They call it a common senseguide to better living or
something like that, and it's alittle moral booklet.
It's like the 10 commandmentsby L Ron Hubbard, but he also
wants you to brush your teethand you know, respect the
religious beliefs of others anda bunch of other stuff not even
Scient do, or L Ron Hubbard didhimself the teeth and the
(10:27):
respecting the religious beliefsof others was not a fan.
Hubbard was not a fan of thatat all.
Anyway, but they've beenprinting these booklets for
decades and decades and theycost about.
I remember back in the day theycost about, I want to say they
cost about a buck or somethinglike that to print and I think
(10:50):
at that time they charged youabout $5 each.
If you were a Scientologist, ifyou wanted to have these
printed and distributed in aforeign country or in a little
town or something like that, youhad to buy them in, I think,
packs of either $100 or $50 or$1,000, depending on what you
were doing, either a hundred or50 or a thousand, depending on
what you were doing.
And then you'd get, you'd payup, you'd pay, you'd pay well
(11:12):
over retail for what thesethings cost.
Scientology would pocket thatand then they'd spend, you know,
the 50 cents or whatever itwould cost to print the booklet
and, um, and now I want to saythese booklets, they, they have,
um, these very, very high techprinting presses and they can
purchase in giant quantities andthey're printing.
Every Scientology, within thelast decade, has built
(11:34):
themselves a giant, giantprinting facility.
Now that everything's digitaland you can just send an email,
they're still spending moneychopping down forests and
printing stuff.
But I want to say the booklet Ithink was down to four cents a
booklet they could produce themfor.
It might even be less now.
And they're still charging aton of dough for each one of
those booklets thatScientologist donates, and
(11:59):
they've done this for a verylong time, very long time.
I remember in the 1990s, um,lisa Marie Presley had donated
50,000, um videos, these how todo Dianetics, vhs tapes that we
(12:20):
had.
She had donated 50,000, 50,000of the those videos to libraries
across the world or the UnitedStates or something, to
libraries across the world orthe United States or something.
And when you buy a video inScientology, it's like, let's
say it's 2599.
Well, if you buy five of them,you get it like a 5% discount.
You buy ten of them, you get afive ten percent.
And if you buy I think it's Ifyou buy over like a hundred, you
get like a 50% discount.
(12:40):
If you get these videos andLisa Marie bought 50,000, they
charge her 2599 for each one.
And so what happens inScientology is whoever sold.
If you get somebody to do acourse in Scientology, you get a
commission.
I think I want to say it's 15%.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yep, it is, we were there.
Yeah, it's 50.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's called a field staff member commission.
So if you're my um field staffmember, they call it an FSM.
If you're my FSM and I go inand buy a $5,000 course, then
you get a cut of that and butyou get it.
You can either get it intraining awards, which is like
Scientology credit, or you canjust get it, a check.
(13:25):
And if you bring lots of peoplein, you don't do the training
awards thing.
You you're like hey, I do thisfor a living, I want the money.
And so there's people that allthey do is get people to sign up
for courses and they theyessentially go out and pressure
them like, hey, you got to do,um, you're supposed to do this
course, you never did it.
And uh, once you get you paidup and so you can do this thing
(13:47):
and that's how they make money.
And so.
But when you sell, if you sellbooks or lectures or videos, you
get a I want to say that's a 10percent commission or it
depends on what it is.
But if you get it, if there's adiscount on that, then that's
where the commission comes outof is out of that discount
amount.
So when Lisa Marie buys $50,000worth of how-to videos.
(14:11):
She pays full price and theperson who made that deal with
her got that full commission.
And that's what David Miscavigewas like no, no, uh-uh, and
whoever it was got in bigtrouble.
Okay, okay, amelia, here you go.
We'll let you do this one,claire, since this is an
internal affairs.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
All right, can you ask internal affairs or however
you call the police thatinvestigates police to
investigate LAPD corruptionregarding Scientology?
Can a private citizen do that?
Yeah, that's fair and in fact Ithink we talked about this, but
internal affairs was at theLAPD meeting that Leah Remini
(14:54):
and I had with LAPD.
So, yes, many things in theworks.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, there you go.
Good question.
I thought it was an internalaffairs like.
Rtc thing, but you knew theanswer to that one too, so good
job no-transcript.
(15:40):
If you answered no, you'reprobably wrong, and if you
answered anything in between,you were definitely wrong and he
would just yell at you and thenyou might even get beat up for
an answer.
Like a really, really badanswer is gonna get a good face
smack or a shove into shove yourhead into somebody else's head,
or it was a lot of violencebeing dealt out.
So not only was there thepossibility that you would be
(16:04):
berated in the meeting forsaying something stupid, but
then you might even getphysically assaulted.
So it got to the point wherepeople just sat there in the
meetings and he would ask youhe'd be like Claire, what is the
answer to the question?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And Claire would literally be like you just sit
there, and then you startedgetting beat up for just not
even responding yeah, then youstarted to get yelled at.
But that's what pie face wasborn you can't, you can't hold
anything.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I didn't say anything , so you can't hold that against
me anyway.
So it got to a point wherepeople would not answer and then
they would just sit there.
And then it got to a pointwhere no one was answering, and
it was actually.
Wasn't it kind of crazy?
Yes, it was.
So it was to a point where noone was answering, and it was
actually.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Wasn't it kind of crazy?
Yes, it was.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
It was to a point where he could ask anyone in the
meeting a direct question andno one would answer.
They would just sit there likeand then you'd get some person
who'd be like the suck up, wouldbe like I could answer that
question, sir, and he's like no,I don't want you to answer it,
I want them to answer.
And they wouldn't do it.
And so then he made up thisthing called Pie Face.
(17:10):
I'm going to say Mike Rinderwas the first Pie Face I'm just
going to go out on a limb andwhether it was him or it was not
, Mark Yeager and Guillaume LeServe were also both.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It was one of those three, mike was one of the
people that most often didrespond actually to be fair.
But yeah, mike was definitelyaccused of pie face on many
occasions, but I'm pretty sureit was Mark Yeager, maybe Mark
Ingber and Guillaume.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It was one of those three for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We'll have to touch base with Mike on that question
We'll have to confer.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
On that one, I'm going to say it literally became
a campaign.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Like David Miscavige had posters, he had badges Like
that's right If you did it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, that's right, he at first he was just claiming
he was just accusing everyoneof being pie face.
And that's what he would say toyou Like, oh, more more pie
face from you.
And then if you were like afrequent offender, pie face
offender, then you got a littlebadge that had a little face on
it that he drew at a meeting andthat logo that he had it was
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just a circle with a mouth, aclosed mouth and just eye slits
and that was it.
And that was everywhere theymade buttons, they made signs,
they made it in all theconference rooms.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It was like no pie face and it'd have like a red
circle with the the line throughit yeah and um and uh the
craziest part, though, is that,after marty rathbun escaped from
the base, from the property, uh, rollbacks were done, which is
when, essentially, someone getsput on the e-meter and asked
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where did you get the idea to doX, y or Z destructive thing?
So they, so rollbacks were done.
Where did you get the idea tobe pie face?
And Marty was the cause of allthe pie face, evidently, except
it kept going, going.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
so yeah not sure it didn't pan out burt pineapple
says question did you get insidelrh jaguar at saint hill?
I never did that.
That's not something.
Um, that's kind of like um, youknow, putting on the pope's uh,
the pope's hat or somethinglike that, that's like that.
You would never in a millionyears even think about doing
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that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
There were.
There was an LRH mansion at theinternational headquarters and
no staff were allowed to gounless you cleaned inside the
mansion.
You weren't even allowed todrive up to the mansion, much
less go inside of it.
You couldn't even use the roadof the mansion.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I went in there when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
No, I'm talking about at the base, you maniac.
Oh, oh, thanks you went to thebase no Bonnie view when you
were a little kid.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No, no, I went to Bonnie view, but when I was an
adult, for some reason, Ithought we were talking about St
Hill.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
No, I've.
I've been to St Hill and I'vebeen to the LRH part of St Hill,
but at the base where I was for15 years, for several of those
years, there was one mansion.
They tore that one down and Ithink I went to that one one
time as well.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, it was a smaller house, right?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, it was a piece of shit house at the top of the
mountain.
It was nothing special it was,it was, it was almost like.
But they tore that one down andthey built the one that's there
now and that one is substantialand that I went to one time.
I went up there and got a tourof the whole place from Annie,
(20:44):
annie Tidman, and on order ofDavid Miscavige, he said you
need to go up there, annie, givehim a tour.
And then we went through thewhole place and that I was still
sort of like they put you know,they put there was a good
question about the Jaguar, butat this place this was in.
I'm going to say this is in2004 when I went up there, maybe
(21:06):
2003.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And they put his clothes out every night there
the night.
At night, they put his clothesout on the bed for him to wear
in the morning and they have allhis stuff ready for the next
day and every day beinglaundered by his granddaughter,
no less.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I mean, how creepy is that.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And every day they would put on a different outfit
for him.
And even then I was like, waita minute, if, if Elren Hubbard
was died in 1986, he was a bigfat old dud, fuddy duddy.
Fat old dude, um dude that wasgoing crazy at the horse ranch.
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When he comes back 21 yearsfrom now, he's going to fit into
old fat, fuddy-duddy clothes.
How's that work?
He's going to pick up anotherold fat, fuddy-duddy body to fit
into his old clothes.
Anyway, not a lot of criticalthinking going on over there at
the L Ron Hubbard Household Unit.
Lim Lee question If you weredoing courses in Scientology Sea
(22:10):
Org, how do you pay foranything?
If you're a Sea Org member, youdon't pay for Scientology
counseling or courses.
Unless you're a Sea Org memberthat's elderly in Los Angeles,
then they'll take as much moneyfrom you as they can for
counseling, I guess, accordingto recent accounts.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
But they do make you sign a promissory note that
you'll pay for it if you everbreak free.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yes, so even though legally any counseling or
training you would get whileyou're employed by Scientology,
legally that is on the jobtraining because they're
requiring you to do thiscounseling or this courses, so
it's on the job training it'sillegal for them to charge you
for that.
But if you do leave the Corganization and you want to
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stay a Scientologist and be ableto talk to all your relatives
and other family members inScientology, then you have to
pay what's called a freeloadersbill and Claire and I were given
a.
What was it?
How much was it?
156,000?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
159,000 total between the two of us.
Mine was 96 and change andyours was like 62 or thereabouts
.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah.
So they gave us a $150,000 billfor the Scientology training
and counseling.
I was like, yeah, you knowwhere you can stick that right,
I'm never.
We did not pay a penny of that.
So, yeah, that's how that works, Limley, Thank you for that.
Ideal Borg, AKA CEO BILF.
Question Mark were you everinvolved with the how to use
(23:35):
Dianetics VHS?
Someone uploaded the wholething.
Yeah, I, I quality controlchecked thousands and thousands
and thousands of those and weeven shot a lot of the footage
when I was on the film team forthe videos that ended up going
into the DVD and the how toDianetics, how to kit and all
that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm in that video too .
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yep, you sure is Okay .
Can you read the next one?
I've got to do a sip.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yep.
Oh, I guess he didn't put it upfor me, got to do my own.
Oh, there we go, bo Beats.
Hi guys, do you ever worryabout SPTV Nation becoming too
big and, whether OSA or not,kind of imploding in on itself
with controversy and or drama?
Well, that's kind of the beautyof an organic nation, as SPTV
(24:27):
Nation is.
There's always going to bediffering opinions.
The more voices, the merrier,and so long as there's something
to talk about, known as a cultof Scientology, we'll still be
here talking about it.
So you know, to each their own.
If you don't care for ouropinions, that's okay, you can.
There are plenty of otheroptions.
So you know no one's going toget along all of the time about
(24:50):
everything.
And you know Mark and I are ofthe view let's just keep our eye
on the mountain and stayfocused and keep moving forward.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yep, amen Hail Zinu.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Hail Zinu.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Amy Green says how long did it take you to adjust
to a normal life after leavingScientology?
Wow, I'm going to say it tookus probably about six months,
right?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, in some respects, I think we're still
adjusting sometimes.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, of course, but after about six months we were
like, oh, we're good, this isnot.
This is like.
This is a piece of cake.
We're good.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
We're good at this this is a piece of cake.
We're yeah, we're good.
The biggest crazy crazy.
To me, the biggest like wow,what the heck?
Uh?
Was how much time we had on ourhands and what to do with that
time.
It was shocking.
And also the ability to eatwhatever we wanted whenever we
wanted.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, that was.
That was particularly rough onthe good old me here.
We when, when, when we were inthe Sea Org, I was part of the
clean plate club and you knowyou got three meals a day and
anything outside of that youwere on your own.
So when I found out I could do,you know, five or six or seven
(26:06):
or 27 meals a day, I was like,oh, I got to get used to this,
let's see what's going to happenhere.
And yeah, every time we have,we have three boys and I think I
gained 20 pounds each timeClaire had a kid, but I never
gave up the 20 pounds from thekid before.
So so I was a big old bastardby the end of those, those three
boys.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's called sympathy weight gain right, Isn't that
what they call it?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Oh, it's just called having fun eating gain.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't know what you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, there you go.
Robert Watson said questionhave you?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
ever heard of the river at Tampa Bay?
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I have not Sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Appreciate it though.
The river at Tampa Bay?
No, don't know anything aboutit.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Look at this.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Cece's comfort cooking.
Michael McKay says what's yourthoughts on the freewind story
that Aaron spoke on today?
Have you guys ever been on theship?
I think what he's talking aboutis there was a rumor that the
freewinds had gone into dry dockrecently.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yep, somebody actually just sent an email to
share with Aaron that isconfirmed that it's in Dry Dock
in Curacao as of October 10th.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I understand that, but the video that Aaron did
today is that it's never comingout of Dry Dock.
That's the end of it.
So I'm not exactly sure aboutthat.
The Freewinds I've been on thefree wins many times.
We did events on the free.
Have you ever been on the freewins, claire?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Just the one time when it was in Ensenada.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh, just when everybody went for a few hours,
you went there for three days.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, I was there for three days, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, no, I went there many times on events
and I also went there before Ijoined the Sea Org.
I spent about a week or so, 10days, seven or 10 days or
something like that, but it wasalways a giant piece of trash.
It used to be a ferry boat, Ithink.
(28:05):
Yeah, it used to be a ferryboat, or it was a car hauler or
something.
I can't remember what it was,but it wasn't a really nice
cruise ship.
I may be getting some of thosefacts confused with the Apollo.
I know the Apollo was like acattle freighter at one point,
but the free winds was a giantpile of junk and it had blue
asbestos on it and it had allsorts of nonsense.
(28:27):
And they spent many, manymillions of dollars over the
years upgrading it and trying tomake it as good as possible and
it never, ever, ever wasprofitable.
From the day they opened it tothe to today, it has never made
a dollar.
It's always been run at a lossand they've never been able to
keep enough Scientologists therebecause really, since its
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inception, scientology was onthe downturn.
So how many ever people theythought they could get there on
a regular basis?
They've never been able to dothat for the entire time that it
operated, and it was also apiece of shit on top of that.
So I think it would be wise forthem to get rid of it, because
(29:15):
it's just a giant waste of timeand it also is where they can
get away with stuff ininternational waters, so I think
it should be gotten rid of.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, and it can also serve as a floating prison for
people that they never want tosee the light of day.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, and it doesn't hurt that it's involved in all
these lawsuits right now.
So if they get rid of it anddestroy it, then it can't be.
They can't go there, they can'tinvestigate, they can't look
and they can't take pictures,they can't.
You know it's done, it's gone.
So I think they'll get rid ofEventually.
If they don't get rid of it now, they will need to get rid of
(29:53):
it sooner than later becauseit's just, it's just costing
them money.
Librarian X question.
Do you think DM did therevisions to the books tech as a
way to keep the copyright forauthor services COS 75 years
after first published 100%?
He said so on many occasions.
Yep, that was absolutely partof the strategy?
Yeah, when he announces toScientologists that they had to
(30:15):
revise these things, he has tocome up with a good reason for
them to revise them.
But the main reason they reviverevise them is so that they
could extend the copyrights, andthey they wouldn't because L
Ron Hubbard's passed away.
Um, these things have to besort of revived every once in a
while in order to keep themgoing, and so that's 100 percent
(30:37):
story that started coming outwas oh, whoops the secretary
that put this book togetherdropped it on the way to the
printer, and that's why there'sa forward at page 300.
(31:00):
Even though L Ron Hubbard hasread out of the book as printed
incorrectly for lectures andstuff like that, somehow he
still didn't know that it wasall messed up.
Yep, okay, lrh way.
How did that street get renamed?
You can, you can pretty muchname anywhere in the United
(31:23):
States.
You can name a street aftersomebody.
If you pay that city enoughmoney, they'll name the street.
If you go to any place wherethere's a big Walmart, it's on
Walmart way or Sam Walton laneor you know something like that.
Changing a road name is not ahard thing to do.
So the city of Hollywood or thecity of Los Angeles or LA
(31:45):
County or whatever it isScientology completely redid the
road, made it really nice, paidfor it, all themselves, and the
city said sure, you can put asign up that says Elrond Abbot
Way and it's only like a, let'ssay, a 200 yard section of
street.
It's just one little teenystreet, it's not and it's dead
(32:09):
ended on both sides.
So it ends into a street and itends into another street.
It's just one little leg ofstreet that's called L run
Hubbard way.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, and that I just looked it up.
That was done in 1996 and itdid used to be Barando street.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Awesome A question Don't you guys ever do any lives
with Aaron anymore?
Yeah, I did a live with Aaronlike a week ago.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, we have one coming up on November 4th.
We just all have very busyschedules, and Aaron has the
capacity to do way more than anyof us.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well, so Aaron does his videos during the day and we
do our videos at night after weget off work.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Which is two hours ahead in Florida, because we
have day jobs.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, so that's why we don't always do them together
.
And we have been doing somewith Mike lately because Mike
has wanted to do videos with usand he'll do it at night.
And he reached out to us andsaid, hey, do you guys want to
do this with me?
And we're like sure we're good.
Um, but yeah, we will do, ifAaron.
(33:15):
I talked to Aaron like three orfour times a week.
If he wants to do a video, heknows he can call me and we'll
do a video.
Yep, um, thank you.
Coffee first, please.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Um me too, by the way .
First please.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's a two.
Barrel says what's yourfavorite Depeche mode song?
Ooh, that's a hard one, very,very hard.
I've been just recently.
I've been going through andlistening to every single album
in chronological order, gettingready for the concert that's
about to come up.
But, um, um, I don't know, Idon't, don't really I they're
kind of like kids.
I can't really name my favoritewithout, uh, you know, just
(33:54):
disappointing the other songs.
But, uh, enjoy the silence.
Live in berlin.
Um, on youtube.
Pretty good, pretty good.
Thank you, barrel, for that.
Um and burrow lrh way, how didthat go?
We already did that.
Um, um, silver spoon question.
Hey, claire, what will Mark sayif I ask him what are Claire's
best qualities?
(34:14):
Um, okay, claire, you get toanswer that question.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Well, I don't know what you would say.
It says hey, claire, yeah,that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Say if I ask him what are Claire's best qualities?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Uh, claire's best qualities.
Clearly, I'm just a spectator.
For this one, I think you'd sayI'm pretty good at being
patient and um, putting up witha lot of nonsense and
multitasking beyond his, um,tolerance level.
I will note, but yeah, that'swhat I would say.
What would you say, honey?
That's pretty accurate.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Thank you, good job.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Great Zinu, your homeboy.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Way to use those BTs.
Mark Mike Rinder kept throwinghis at DM.
My BTs are great buds.
They're great at bowling andbarbecues.
Oh, and that whole space operathing was a complete
misunderstanding.
There you go.
I'm telling you, zinu, myhomeboy agrees with the whole
BTs thing.
Bts activate.
You've got to embrace your BTs.
(35:21):
If those of you who don't know,or if you're a Scientologist and
you don't know, according to LRon Hubbard, we have tens of
thousands of alien souls on us,called body Thetans, otherwise
known as BTs.
I call them space cooties, andScientologists are evicting
these things.
When they get on the upperoperating Thetan levels, they're
evicting these things at a madpace and I say embrace them,
(35:45):
let's live together.
Rising tides raise all ships,live together.
Rising tides, raise all ships.
Thank you for that, zinu.
Gary Gunnels, why is it calledthe Flag Base they used to have,
gary.
Thank you for that.
In the Sea Organization thereused to be several Sea Org ships
and L Ron Hubbard fanciedhimself the commodore of this
(36:08):
flotilla of Sea Organizationvessels.
He called them.
They call them Sea Org MotorVessel, apollo, or the Sea Org
Motor Vessel, the Freewinds.
These are Sea Org Motor Vesselsand when there was a main ship
that Hubbard was on that wascalled the flagship.
That's the key ship that givesthe directions to all the other
(36:29):
ships in the flotilla and thecommodore is the one who runs
the flagship.
That's the key ship that givesthe directions to all the other
ships in the flotilla and theCommodore is the one who runs
the flagship.
And the flagship was whereScientologists would come from
all over the world to train, toget trained by L Ron Hubbard
himself and to get counseled bypeople that L Ron Hubbard had
trained to be counselors himself.
And when they were looking forHubbard the various governments
(36:51):
of the world.
He could hide out on theseships and they could just go
anywhere they wanted in theocean and they couldn't track
down Hubbard.
Well, at a certain place therewas not really any more places
they could go that they hadn'tbeen chased out of before, and
so they had to move that wholeoperation to land and they first
went to Daytona, florida, andthen they ended up in Clearwater
(37:14):
Florida, at the Fort HarrisonHotel in Clearwater, florida,
and when they did that theycalled it the Flag Land Base and
that is how it became known asthe FLB, or the flag, or flag,
or the flag land base.
Yep, we should clip that, andthat should be how the history,
(37:36):
what?
How?
The flag land base became theflag land base.
Thank you for that, gary Cause.
That was the best summation ofthat I've ever heard, or or?
or manufacturer much.
Darla Curry, one, four, ninesays did you ever see DM beat up
a female Elaborate?
I have never seen him beat up afemale.
(37:58):
I have seen him yell at femalesand I've seen him like yell so
much that there was like alittle bit of spittle kind of
mixed in there in the yelling.
But mostly what he would docorrect me if I'm wrong on this,
claire but mostly what he woulddo is he would get other
females to beat up other females.
He never he knew that thatmight be a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
So he would just throw water and throw water
bottles at females and, yes,you're right, he would make
other females um.
Yeah, take care of business onhis behalf, on his orders, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
And some of them would get a handsy.
Some of them and also, um,girls would beat up guys and
that was like a really weird one, because you'd have a girl
beating on somebody and you'rejust like come on, come on,
let's not be silly.
And yeah, lots of nonsense.
David Miscavige not a nice guy.
(38:58):
Nope, stacey, why Do you thinkOSA is putting out false info
now to see who's leaking toy'all and think little DM is
fuming with the 567 lawsuitslooming?
Yeah, I think I even said thisearlier when the Danny Masterson
declare came out, when the freewin stuff.
I really do think when there'sa lot of like really wild info
(39:21):
that's getting linked almost allthe time, I suspect this is
them telling people to see who'sleaking what to who and, to be
honest, I always think it's OSA,no matter what it is.
I think OSA has something to dowith it in some way, shape or
form, because they're reallytrying to figure out how to
(39:45):
control the narrative here, andI think the only way they know
how is to control what the leaksare.
I think that's sort of whatthey've learned, but there's a
lot of leaks from a lot of areas, so I'm not sure exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, that's why we're just automatically
suspicious of anything thatcauses division, which there
tends to be a fair amount of.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yes, Hi guys, as Kelly P passed from cancer, did
they consider her a PTS, forexample, though who she's been
talking to, and would John Thave to undergo auditing?
The celebrities are always sortof on some sort of program or
(40:30):
on some sort of handling programfrom the Religious Technology
Center.
If they're not in a Scientologyorganization doing auditing and
doing counseling and doingstuff and talking about
Scientology, usually somebody iscalling them and saying, hey,
when's the next time you'regoing to come in or when are you
going to do this?
When you get up to that JohnTravolta, tom Cruise level, I'm
(40:55):
pretty sure they just dowhatever they want.
And unless David Miscavige hasa specific beef or they did
something or said something thathe has, he wants, sorted out,
they pretty much just let themdo whatever they want.
And I will say, of the two'mpretty sure kelly p was the more
um, uh, avid scientologist.
Between her and john, she was110 percent scientology and I
(41:19):
don't think I think over theyears.
John travolta plays nice, buthe's not running out of his way
to fly back to florida so he cango wasn't?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
wasn't ke Kelly, the Narconon spokesperson for a
while?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
No, that was Kirstie Alley.
Kelly was very big on CCHR andshe went to a lot of the marches
and the protests and stuff likethat.
Xenia, your homeboy Question.
Oh, mark, I've been meaning toask you in the Scientology video
with the Fava Flav award for TC, who is doing the music?
In the Scientology video withthe favor Flav award for TC, who
is doing the music in thebackground?
(41:52):
Did they play that at gold orwas it just mixed?
Know that the that MissionImpossible riff bound and Aaron
and Aaron and it.
That was done by a gentleman bythe name of Chris Mayo.
He was a golden era musicianand Tom Cruise loved that though
his reinterpretation of thatriff and how he played it.
(42:13):
And that guy was seriouslypopular with Tom Cruise for
about a year or two and TomCruise was even thinking these
golden era musicians should dosome music for my movies and
stuff like that because of thisone guitar.
Uh, guy, chris mayo and um.
(42:36):
So the golden musicians weretasked with coming up with some
music ideas for missionimpossible and whatever they
came up with uh ended tom cruz'sum fandom of the golden era
musicians.
It was literally such a cheesefest of what they thought that
they could do that.
They were done.
(42:56):
They were dead to him afterthat.
So the Chris Mayo guy got himin the door and then the rest of
the Golden Era musicians took abig, hot, steamy dump right in
Tom Cruise's plate and theyweren't big fans.
Um alexander champagne question.
Would security use lethalforces if, hypothetically, one
(43:17):
were forced the entrance of cstto free shelly, knowing they
don't want the police tointerfere, like when they
rescued mark in 2003?
Who, um, I don't remember mebeing rescued.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Well, no, so when you escaped?
Oh well that was in 2005.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
You'd already escaped from the property, shelly.
Well, those are two differentthings.
The police interfered with meon a public road, so that's that
, and that was my just my dumbluck that that happened.
And if you force the entranceof CST, then it becomes a like
stand your, stand your groundsort of issue, depending on what
(44:07):
state you do that in.
But that's trespassing and youcan defend your property.
I'm not sure if you can defendit with lethal force.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, Jackson has talked about how security were
being trained to be prepared touse lethal force in the event of
intruders on the property.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah okay.
There you go.
John Satowski, where does thebest fudge come from?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Uranus Missouri.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It comes from John Satowski, because I didn't get
it from wherever this Uranusplace is.
I got it from John Satowski.
But, yeah, I got it right here.
I got it.
I got it right up here in casehe mentions it.
Do you get?
Are you on a commission basis,john?
What's the deal with you inthis fudge place?
We're curious.
(44:58):
Yeah, a lot of fudge, a lot offudge.
Abigail, have you seen thetrivia live stream Aaron's been
doing with Reese?
Yeah, that, where they pretendthat they're more stupid than
even most Seward members are.
Sterling, joined them on thelast one.
I feel like it would be greatif you joined.
I suggested Jackbox on one,which would be awesome with you
(45:20):
guys.
I don't know what a Jackbox is.
Is that Jackson?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I don't think so.
I don't know what a.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Jackbox is.
But yes, abigail, thank you.
No, like I said, aaron's doingall those while I'm at work, so
sometimes I do have them playingin the background while I'm
working, but I have a day job.
Hey guys, una from Belfast,when you were both in the Sea
(45:46):
Org, was Claire worried thatMark was always getting in
trouble or being moved, etcetera?
Did it affect her role?
That's a great question.
Go ahead, claire.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yes, I was very worried.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Mark and I had a few ups and downs over this topic,
but yeah, I'm just going to showthis one too, because this is
actually a super chat from thesame person.
Om22,.
Hey guys, una from Belfast.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
When Mark got in trouble or pissed on someone was
this fed back to Claire and didit ever impact her on her role?
So it's pretty much the samething Ultimately, um, my refusal
to divorce Mark at theinsistence of David Miscavige,
was the reason that I was uh,removed from religious
technology center and put intothe hole.
So, yes, it did have an impact,and many uh, on a few different
(46:31):
occasions I was being told Iabsolutely had to divorce him or
I'd lose my job, which dideventually happen.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, that's a fact.
And then this guy did anotherone.
I'm not sure.
Hey guys, yes, oh, it's, una.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh, I'm 22.
Una from Belfast I know whothis person is OK, good.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Well, we definitely answered all of his questions.
Super chat and not Blood drillsays who is Jenny Linson for 600
?
Mark.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Dillon Gill in the house Jenny Linson.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Also no, it's Linson.
By the way, jenny Linson is thedaughter of Art Linson.
Linson is the daughter of artlinson, who is the producer of
the hit tv show yellowstone, aswell as, uh, mayor of kingstown
is that the name of the show?
The other show, um, and a bunchof other great shows that I
love um, isn't her brotherinvolved in yellowstone too, her
(47:28):
?
brother, john linson is also aproducer, I think, on
Yellowstone.
I'm not sure if he's also theproducer on Mayor of Kingstown,
but so, yes, they all three ofthem lost money in a Ponzi
scheme done by a gentleman bythe name of Art Linson, not Art
(47:50):
Linson Reed.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Slatkin.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Art Linson, john Linson and Jenny Linson all lost
money in that, and so did theguy that plays Rip in the show
Can't remember his name rightoff the bat Hauser, what's his
name?
Something Hauser.
His dad's name was Wings Hauser.
I can't remember the guy's name, but anyway, the actor who
plays rip, um, was also uh, alsolost a ton of dough in that
(48:15):
thing.
Um, jenny linson was at the intinternational headquarters as a
seahawk member.
She used to be married to agentleman by the name of tom
devocht, who has since escapedscientology and spoken out, it
was Cole Hauser.
Cole Hauser, that's right.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Thanks, Matt.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
And anyway.
So Jenny was in the Sea Org.
She used to be in the CMO,which is the Commodore's
Messenger Organization inClearwater, and then she was
moved to the base to be one ofDavid Miscavige's lieutenants
and she is a nasty piece of workand she is likely involved in
anything that has to do withharassing ex-Seahawk members.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
If you'd like to see her in action, go on over to
YouTube and search Marty Rathbun, lax, jenny Linson and you will
understand yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
I wish Marty would have cleaned his camera lens
before shooting that.
It would be so much better.
Laura Font says didn't LRH saywe have X amount of years to
clear the planet?
Hasn't that date passed?
What did Scientologists thinkwould happen if we didn't meet
the goal?
How do they justify or explaina way not meeting this goal?
That's a great question.
And L Ron Hubbard did say thatthreat was eminent from external
(49:27):
forces and that the world wasabout to end and it would be
destroyed um by um, by nuclearor atomic war and um, and that's
really kind of like the, the.
The atmosphere whichScientology thrives under is
like we don't have a lot of time, we got to do this right now
(49:48):
and um, that's why it's all.
Everything's always rush, rush,rush, rush, rush, um.
And I'm not sure how theyjustify any of this, because he
said he was coming back in 2007.
Just checking, and no, he'soverdue.
Missed a bus or a trainsomewhere.
Where do you be, l or H?
That package arrived, by theway, claire, just so you know.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Awesome, jessica Borg says.
Next stuffy should be spacecooties.
Such a good name Could evenmake ones that stick to things.
Just an idea Could make Velcrospace cooties that just stick to
anything.
I love it, jessica.
Write this down, keep track ofJessica.
If space cooties come,jessica's going to be the first
(50:30):
one to get one.
I love the Space Cootie idea,jessica.
I don't even know why no one'sever suggested that Space
Cooties could be a big thing.
Buy your own Space Cooties.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I will say I just love the creativity in this
community.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, if you guys think Space Cootie should be the
next stuffy, get in there, getin those comments and say thumbs
up for space cooties or spacecooties for the win.
Do you got to get in thecomments?
I got to know if there's ageneral consensus that we should
create space cootie stuffies toas a fundraiser.
(51:06):
Um, if, if, if you guys will doit and you guys will buy them,
then we'll do them.
We got to get rid of these,davey, captain Davey from the
Space Navy.
First, though, because I'm notmaking.
We don't do more than one atthe same time.
That's just how it works.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Thank you, Jessica.
I appreciate that.
Do you want to jump out anddeal with that package?
And I can wrap up the rest ofthese questions.
Bye, I'll see you all soon, soonwe have a package arrived that
claire needs to deal with.
So I, you're all you're leftwith me now.
Um and um, let's see we have.
I'm gonna answer as many as Ican.
Um and uh, let's see johnsatowska.
(51:42):
I laugh when I think how manytimes osa sees the word uranus
in the sptv transcripts.
I laugh then when I just thinkthat um, osa has to watch these
videos.
For those of you who are new tothe channel, osa is the Office
of Special Affairs,scientology's spy wing, and they
are responsible for people thatexpose Scientology in the real
(52:05):
world and they are tasked withshutting them down and dealing
with them.
And there is about I moved mymicrophone, I muted myself.
Sorry about that.
There's about 50 channels onYouTube right now that are doing
um, scientology type uh exposés.
Like all day, every day, thesevideos are coming out and um and
(52:28):
OSA is the one task with havingto listen, to transcribe and
summarize these things and tellDavid Miscavige what's what the
internet is up to, uh and howthey're treating Scientology.
So, um, yeah, it's must be Russ, must be rough, oh, so that you
guys just have to do this on afull-time basis.
But hey, there, we're herewhenever you guys want to bail.
(52:50):
That will help you.
Here we go.
If you didn't know, oh, it'sAbigail again.
Thank you, abigail.
If you didn't know, jackbox isa party game series where you
connect over the internet andyou can play games ranging from
trivia, drawing, socialdeduction, et cetera.
I can email Claire with themain website explaining more.
(53:11):
Okay, cool, oh, so you want usto play Jack box?
You want us to do that?
You know that's um, that's likeKelly copter, um, territory
there, she, I think they did a,they did a werewolf game today.
I watched it for a little bit.
I didn't see who won in the end, but um, but I did go in there
and um, I think, um, the mayorof uh of Neverinton was uh, was
(53:36):
uh, unalived before I, rightbefore I left.
Um, the raffa-daffa-doo, claraMark, all, all y'all are some.
Clara Mark, all y'all areawesome.
Question have either of you evermet Monique Yingling?
She seems especially rotten.
I have met her at an event orsomething like that.
(53:59):
I can't even remember what itwas.
It might have been the 1993 WarIs Over event.
When I met her she got an awardfrom David Miscavige.
She was one of the mainarchitects who helped them get
um, get tax exemption and thenshe became his personally turn,
a personal attorney after thatevent.
(54:19):
And, um, and she's not even aScientologist.
She, she is the de facto uhScientology spokesman right now.
Whenever they have a a reallybig uh fire that they need to
put out, they send Monique overthere to yap and she, when she
talks, she blinks.
She blinks a little bit morethan you would think for someone
who's just talking and I thinkher nickname is Blinky
(54:41):
McBlinkface I think that's whatMike Rinder calls her.
Thank you for that.
The Raffa Daffa do.
Stacey Y again start chartsuggestions.
Casey Y again start chartsuggestions.
Start stat chart suggestions.
Danny in the Davey in thedependent chair.
Or get SPTV to replace Leah onall the blame and spiteful sites
.
She needs a break of being theultimate super SP.
(55:03):
Many channels are earning theircapes yeah, they.
I think the reason they goafter Leah the hardest because
she has the largest reach andshe is technically technically,
I mean, I'm going to say she'sinflicting the heaviest amount
of damage to them currently, orjust has been generally just
(55:25):
with the amount of people thatshe can reach.
So, yeah, there might be somesort of Scientology axiom, which
is the number of hate sites andhate propaganda is proportional
to the number of suppressiveacts we appear to be committing
to them.
Christian B says Claire, do youthink I'm sorry I'll have to
(55:46):
answer this one Do you think thetiny troll DM is watching
insanely jealous of how greatyour haircut is and thinking to
himself I need a new hairstyle?
I think he is jealous ofClaire's hair.
Um, claire doesn't have anyplugs like he does.
And um, and I know she's nottaking any of that HGH, all that
(56:07):
amount of HGH he's taken.
So, um, we're going to err onthe side.
Christian, that he's jealous,and he's also just jealous of us
in general because he can't goanywhere, do anything.
He's got to hide out in hisScientology countdown.
Vince and Giggles says I vote,make John Satowski and eat more
(56:29):
pizza.
Mods, they're both hilarious andknow how to swing a wrench.
Yeah, I think for now, claire'sjust being, uh, being the mod
and um, we'll see.
Most of the modding can be justdone with keywords.
I mean, I I've seen nonsense inhere from every once in a while
, but it's a chat.
It's like, okay, um, okay,let's see if there's any other
(56:50):
ones here.
I missed guys.
I wanted to get out of hereunder an hour and I think we're
getting pretty close there.
Let's look at Wonder Woman here.
She says Wonder Woman questiondo you think Osa tells Diem
about him being teased?
Example 413, captain Davy Dahl.
You know that's the thing.
We've sort of argued about thisin the past and it's been going
(57:35):
on for a long time.
That's not good for, that's nota good look for OSA or anyone
in RTC who knows about this.
Um, so I think they may havetold him that we're making a
doll or something like that, butI'm not sure.
I'm not sure how many they'vepurchased or are they?
Did they have to send up asample?
(57:56):
I mean, it is what it is.
Um, I haven't.
Um, I haven't seen anysuspicious orders, like, I
haven't seen any dolls orderedto the any of the Scientology
facilities but um, but when wewent into a lawsuit with them
and we went into um depositions,they had a signed copy of my
book that was a pre-release,super special edition version
(58:19):
that they got from somewhere.
So it is what it is.
We're doing it to support theAftermath Foundation.
It just happens to be hilariousthat it's a little Davey thing
and if you haven't ordered oneof your Captain Davey of the
fake Space Navy, you can get oneand they're on the SP Shop If
you go to the spshopcom.
(58:41):
We have bobbleheads, we havebracelets and we also have these
little dolls here At thespshopcom.
I got to update my thing to puta Captain Space Davey, captain
Space Davey from the fake Navyor whatever, the Captain
Chucklesworth, but you can getthose from the spshopcom.
(59:01):
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You can sign up to be avolunteer, you can sign up to
get notices when we do stuff,and that's where the SP shop
comes in.
Anything that we sell on the SPshop bobbleheads, mike Rinder
bobbleheads, or SP bracelets, spyou can get those, all those.
(59:52):
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Thank you everybody who watchedtill the very end, and we
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Hey guys, welcome back to the channel.
We're going to do a live Q&Atonight on the Blown for Good
channel.
Let's get Claire in here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello, good evening.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We had actually already planned to do this, but
then Claire ended up joininganother stream, so we debated
whether we were going to do itor not and then I decided we
were still going to go ahead anddo it.
So give everybody a few minutesto get here If you're set up
for notifications.
I did a post.
I realized I could do a post onthe channel and then that would
(00:47):
go out to people right awayletting people know that we're
going to be live at 6.
But for all the people whodidn't get that other notice,
we'll just find out whereeverybody's watching from
tonight.
We like to do that to see whereeverybody's coming from, and we
can also put up.
We get to show some of yourposts when to do that to see, uh
, where everybody's coming from,and we can also put up.
We get to, you know, show, showsome of your posts when we do
(01:08):
that.
So for those people who like tosee their name in lights, we've
got uh.
Um.
There we go.
We got ann from perth.
Good morning from perth.
Um, we've got um.
We've got somebody fromclearwater, poland.
Daily Owl Charlotte from Kent.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Here, let me put up one real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, lathunda Grocklinger, and she's from.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
She didn't say where she's coming from.
I think she's from Germany, ifI remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, there you go, very good.
Then we got Abigail fromRochester and somebody said
Laura is too loud.
I think that's on anotherstream, dude.
I don't think that's on thisone.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Unfortunately we don't have Laura's volume
adjustment on this channel.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
We don't.
Bakersfield, calgary, waterloo,ontario, clearwater, buffalo
Ridge Mountains, poland.
That's the same person who saidthey were from Clearwater,
poland.
I see, yes.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
There you go yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Michigan, louisville, kingston, wow.
We got a lot of people from alot of different places
Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Texas, phoenix, houston, fort Worth.
A lot of people, a lot ofpeople from a lot of different
places Got about 400 people inhere so far.
I didn't know if are they stilllive on that other video?
Oh yeah, they are.
So if, um, are they still liveon that other video?
Oh, yeah, they are.
So, amy, and those guys arestill alive.
So we might see some um peoplepop, pop in uh when they wrap up
(02:52):
over there.
But, um, but yeah, we wanted touh, we wanted to update you
guys, um, just any questionspeople had and um, what else we
had.
Um's another um, I think uh,aaron's probably not done a
video about it already, but Ithink there was a thing about uh
(03:13):
, was it the irs going afterbijou and danny for uh, for a
few, a few bucks in taxes thatthey didn't pay?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
oh, and um I mean they're?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
they're just getting hits, hits left, right and
center over there inScientologyville and it just
seems to be a never endingsource of nonsense over there
right now.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yep, not a good day to be in a cult, folks.
Not a good year to be in a cult.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yep, not a good year to be in a cult.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Let's just see If you guys have got questions we've
got about what?
Are we up to 500, 400, 400 to500 people in here right now?
Yep, if you guys have gotquestions that you would like us
to address, get in there.
Get them in the chat.
It doesn't only have to be asuper chat or a or a super
sticker that we'll take, but, um, we will.
(04:07):
Um, gino Dean Mark, can you?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
tell the story in the house Can?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
you tell the Theta potato story for new people who
have never heard it.
(04:35):
Um, one of the funniest storiesI ever heard.
One of the funniest stories Iever heard.
I guess I can tell it realquick.
So thanks for that.
In Los Angeles would go afterwork on a weekday and that's
when they would go to theHollywood location and they'd go
on course or they'd get theirauditing or whatever.
And when I was a kid we wentthere every night of the week.
(04:58):
My mom would go on course andmy sister and I would also go on
course at the same time.
So we would do school from 830to 530.
We'd get off of school, eatfast food on the way home from
La Cunada to Hollywood and thenwe would get dropped off and we
would go to a course at theScientology Center from seven to
(05:19):
10 o'clock at night.
And when we would do that wewould have to get a parking
space at the Scientology Centerand it was nearly impossible At
that time.
L Ron Hubbard Way was called.
I think it was called Catalina,I don't know the actual.
I think it was Catalina Avenue.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Whatever the street was that went, that's now called
.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It wasn't Berendo right.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Maybe it was Berendo actually Could have been Berendo
, anyway, whatever the streetwas that went, that's now called
, it wasn't Berendo, right?
Maybe it was Berendo actuallyCould have been Berendo, anyway,
whatever the street name wasany of those streets around
there, there were parking, therewas street parking.
Now it's all cobblestoned andthere's no parking on any of
that area there, but it used tobe parking both sides up and
down the street.
There used to be parkinggarages and a giant parking lot
and with all of that it wasimpossible to find a parking
(06:08):
space.
And that's how manyScientologists there were in the
1980s.
There was so much that all ofthe lots and all of the parking
garages and all of the streetparking, there was no place to
park.
And there was a parking.
The parking enforcement personwould come around, like at 7.15.
(06:29):
So all the Scientologists wouldpark in front of hydrants and
park in spots that they didn'tput change in and they do all
that.
And so then, when all theScientologists would go into the
course rooms and all theseScientology organizations there
in Hollywood, the parking meterwould just go around and give
everybody tickets.
And so there was a guy who Icould always go around with with
(06:50):
pockets of quarters and he'dput money in the meters that
were that were going to expirewhen the parking person got
there and he would fill themeters and if you saw the guy,
you'd throw him a buck or twobecause he was the guy who put
all the quarters in.
And this guy was feverishlygoing through one night and
putting quarters in and he ranout of quarters and the parking
(07:13):
enforcement person was justabout to come and give this car
a ticket and he saw the parkingattendant see that there was a
meter that was expired, but theywere on the other side of the
street or something like that.
So they went, they got back totheir car and this guy this is
(07:33):
the way the story went aroundwas this guy postulated for, for
.
For those of you who don't knowwhat that means, in Scientology,
when you postulate something,it's just like you have a
thought or an intention forsomething to happen and with
your mind you're not doing.
I mean, it's just, you have athought, I'm going to this is, I
want this to happen anyway.
So this, this quarter guy, hehad the thought I would, I would
(07:54):
like a I'm postulating a thetapotato in the tailpipe of the
parking enforcement person, andso that's what he did.
He was like Ooh theta potato inthe tailpipe person, and so
that's what he did.
He was like Ooh Theta potato inthe tailpipe.
And then when the parkingenforcement person went to to
start the car, a car wouldn'tstart.
It literally was just, it wasdead and they had to get a tow
(08:15):
truck and they had to do thiswhole thing but the person never
got to give that guy a ticketand um and so he.
Everybody was praising this guyfor putting a Theta potato in
the tailpipe of the parkingattendant.
And and this is in Scientologythere's a magazine called the
Advance magazine and it's themagazine of the advanced
(08:36):
organization of Los Angeles andwhenever they have these OT
phenomena stories in there it'salways about a parking space a
Scientologist found with theirmind or an accident that they
didn't get into with their mind,or they got into an accident
(08:57):
but with their mind they made itso they didn't get hurt or
injured.
It's always automobile-relatedor very frequently, high
(09:18):
percentage of those for sure.
Ot message to my husband topick up lemon juice and then on
his way home he was like youknow what?
I just thought I would pick upsome lemon juice Cause I
realized we were going to havefish and I didn't know if we.
And then it's like, oh, I sentyou that message.
Um, we just have like an Applenote, you know, for the shopping
list.
That's much easier, it's alsomore reliable, it's more
(09:41):
reliable?
Um, anyway, um.
So yeah, there's your thetapotato question.
Uh, cody Mac says is it truethat when Scientologists
volunteer to donate money forthe way to happiness booklets,
they have to pay full retail,full retail for each book?
Yes, that's exactly true.
So Scientology has this little.
(10:03):
They call it a common senseguide to better living or
something like that, and it's alittle moral booklet.
It's like the 10 commandmentsby L Ron Hubbard, but he also
wants you to brush your teethand you know, respect the
religious beliefs of others anda bunch of other stuff not even
Scient do, or L Ron Hubbard didhimself the teeth and the
(10:27):
respecting the religious beliefsof others was not a fan.
Hubbard was not a fan of thatat all.
Anyway, but they've beenprinting these booklets for
decades and decades and theycost about.
I remember back in the day theycost about, I want to say they
cost about a buck or somethinglike that to print and I think
(10:50):
at that time they charged youabout $5 each.
If you were a Scientologist, ifyou wanted to have these
printed and distributed in aforeign country or in a little
town or something like that, youhad to buy them in, I think,
packs of either $100 or $50 or$1,000, depending on what you
were doing, either a hundred or50 or a thousand, depending on
what you were doing.
And then you'd get, you'd payup, you'd pay, you'd pay well
(11:12):
over retail for what thesethings cost.
Scientology would pocket thatand then they'd spend, you know,
the 50 cents or whatever itwould cost to print the booklet
and, um, and now I want to saythese booklets, they, they have,
um, these very, very high techprinting presses and they can
purchase in giant quantities andthey're printing.
Every Scientology, within thelast decade, has built
(11:34):
themselves a giant, giantprinting facility.
Now that everything's digitaland you can just send an email,
they're still spending moneychopping down forests and
printing stuff.
But I want to say the booklet Ithink was down to four cents a
booklet they could produce themfor.
It might even be less now.
And they're still charging aton of dough for each one of
those booklets thatScientologist donates, and
(11:59):
they've done this for a verylong time, very long time.
I remember in the 1990s, um,lisa Marie Presley had donated
50,000, um videos, these how todo Dianetics, vhs tapes that we
(12:20):
had.
She had donated 50,000, 50,000of the those videos to libraries
across the world or the UnitedStates or something, to
libraries across the world orthe United States or something.
And when you buy a video inScientology, it's like, let's
say it's 2599.
Well, if you buy five of them,you get it like a 5% discount.
You buy ten of them, you get afive ten percent.
And if you buy I think it's Ifyou buy over like a hundred, you
get like a 50% discount.
(12:40):
If you get these videos andLisa Marie bought 50,000, they
charge her 2599 for each one.
And so what happens inScientology is whoever sold.
If you get somebody to do acourse in Scientology, you get a
commission.
I think I want to say it's 15%.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yep, it is, we were there.
Yeah, it's 50.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's called a field staff member commission.
So if you're my um field staffmember, they call it an FSM.
If you're my FSM and I go inand buy a $5,000 course, then
you get a cut of that and butyou get it.
You can either get it intraining awards, which is like
Scientology credit, or you canjust get it, a check.
(13:25):
And if you bring lots of peoplein, you don't do the training
awards thing.
You you're like hey, I do thisfor a living, I want the money.
And so there's people that allthey do is get people to sign up
for courses and they theyessentially go out and pressure
them like, hey, you got to do,um, you're supposed to do this
course, you never did it.
And uh, once you get you paidup and so you can do this thing
(13:47):
and that's how they make money.
And so.
But when you sell, if you sellbooks or lectures or videos, you
get a I want to say that's a 10percent commission or it
depends on what it is.
But if you get it, if there's adiscount on that, then that's
where the commission comes outof is out of that discount
amount.
So when Lisa Marie buys $50,000worth of how-to videos.
(14:11):
She pays full price and theperson who made that deal with
her got that full commission.
And that's what David Miscavigewas like no, no, uh-uh, and
whoever it was got in bigtrouble.
Okay, okay, amelia, here you go.
We'll let you do this one,claire, since this is an
internal affairs.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
All right, can you ask internal affairs or however
you call the police thatinvestigates police to
investigate LAPD corruptionregarding Scientology?
Can a private citizen do that?
Yeah, that's fair and in fact Ithink we talked about this, but
internal affairs was at theLAPD meeting that Leah Remini
(14:54):
and I had with LAPD.
So, yes, many things in theworks.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, there you go.
Good question.
I thought it was an internalaffairs like.
Rtc thing, but you knew theanswer to that one too, so good
job no-transcript.
(15:40):
If you answered no, you'reprobably wrong, and if you
answered anything in between,you were definitely wrong and he
would just yell at you and thenyou might even get beat up for
an answer.
Like a really, really badanswer is gonna get a good face
smack or a shove into shove yourhead into somebody else's head,
or it was a lot of violencebeing dealt out.
So not only was there thepossibility that you would be
(16:04):
berated in the meeting forsaying something stupid, but
then you might even getphysically assaulted.
So it got to the point wherepeople just sat there in the
meetings and he would ask youhe'd be like Claire, what is the
answer to the question?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And Claire would literally be like you just sit
there, and then you startedgetting beat up for just not
even responding yeah, then youstarted to get yelled at.
But that's what pie face wasborn you can't, you can't hold
anything.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I didn't say anything , so you can't hold that against
me anyway.
So it got to a point wherepeople would not answer and then
they would just sit there.
And then it got to a pointwhere no one was answering, and
it was actually.
Wasn't it kind of crazy?
Yes, it was.
So it was to a point where noone was answering, and it was
actually.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Wasn't it kind of crazy?
Yes, it was.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
It was to a point where he could ask anyone in the
meeting a direct question andno one would answer.
They would just sit there likeand then you'd get some person
who'd be like the suck up, wouldbe like I could answer that
question, sir, and he's like no,I don't want you to answer it,
I want them to answer.
And they wouldn't do it.
And so then he made up thisthing called Pie Face.
(17:10):
I'm going to say Mike Rinderwas the first Pie Face I'm just
going to go out on a limb andwhether it was him or it was not
, Mark Yeager and Guillaume LeServe were also both.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It was one of those three, mike was one of the
people that most often didrespond actually to be fair.
But yeah, mike was definitelyaccused of pie face on many
occasions, but I'm pretty sureit was Mark Yeager, maybe Mark
Ingber and Guillaume.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It was one of those three for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We'll have to touch base with Mike on that question
We'll have to confer.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
On that one, I'm going to say it literally became
a campaign.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Like David Miscavige had posters, he had badges Like
that's right If you did it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, that's right, he at first he was just claiming
he was just accusing everyoneof being pie face.
And that's what he would say toyou Like, oh, more more pie
face from you.
And then if you were like afrequent offender, pie face
offender, then you got a littlebadge that had a little face on
it that he drew at a meeting andthat logo that he had it was
(18:15):
just a circle with a mouth, aclosed mouth and just eye slits
and that was it.
And that was everywhere theymade buttons, they made signs,
they made it in all theconference rooms.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It was like no pie face and it'd have like a red
circle with the the line throughit yeah and um and uh the
craziest part, though, is that,after marty rathbun escaped from
the base, from the property, uh, rollbacks were done, which is
when, essentially, someone getsput on the e-meter and asked
(18:48):
where did you get the idea to doX, y or Z destructive thing?
So they, so rollbacks were done.
Where did you get the idea tobe pie face?
And Marty was the cause of allthe pie face, evidently, except
it kept going, going.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
so yeah not sure it didn't pan out burt pineapple
says question did you get insidelrh jaguar at saint hill?
I never did that.
That's not something.
Um, that's kind of like um, youknow, putting on the pope's uh,
the pope's hat or somethinglike that, that's like that.
You would never in a millionyears even think about doing
(19:26):
that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
There were.
There was an LRH mansion at theinternational headquarters and
no staff were allowed to gounless you cleaned inside the
mansion.
You weren't even allowed todrive up to the mansion, much
less go inside of it.
You couldn't even use the roadof the mansion.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I went in there when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
No, I'm talking about at the base, you maniac.
Oh, oh, thanks you went to thebase no Bonnie view when you
were a little kid.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No, no, I went to Bonnie view, but when I was an
adult, for some reason, Ithought we were talking about St
Hill.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
No, I've.
I've been to St Hill and I'vebeen to the LRH part of St Hill,
but at the base where I was for15 years, for several of those
years, there was one mansion.
They tore that one down and Ithink I went to that one one
time as well.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, it was a smaller house, right?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, it was a piece of shit house at the top of the
mountain.
It was nothing special it was,it was, it was almost like.
But they tore that one down andthey built the one that's there
now and that one is substantialand that I went to one time.
I went up there and got a tourof the whole place from Annie,
(20:44):
annie Tidman, and on order ofDavid Miscavige, he said you
need to go up there, annie, givehim a tour.
And then we went through thewhole place and that I was still
sort of like they put you know,they put there was a good
question about the Jaguar, butat this place this was in.
I'm going to say this is in2004 when I went up there, maybe
(21:06):
2003.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And they put his clothes out every night there
the night.
At night, they put his clothesout on the bed for him to wear
in the morning and they have allhis stuff ready for the next
day and every day beinglaundered by his granddaughter,
no less.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I mean, how creepy is that.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And every day they would put on a different outfit
for him.
And even then I was like, waita minute, if, if Elren Hubbard
was died in 1986, he was a bigfat old dud, fuddy duddy.
Fat old dude, um dude that wasgoing crazy at the horse ranch.
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When he comes back 21 yearsfrom now, he's going to fit into
old fat, fuddy-duddy clothes.
How's that work?
He's going to pick up anotherold fat, fuddy-duddy body to fit
into his old clothes.
Anyway, not a lot of criticalthinking going on over there at
the L Ron Hubbard Household Unit.
Lim Lee question If you weredoing courses in Scientology Sea
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Org, how do you pay foranything?
If you're a Sea Org member, youdon't pay for Scientology
counseling or courses.
Unless you're a Sea Org memberthat's elderly in Los Angeles,
then they'll take as much moneyfrom you as they can for
counseling, I guess, accordingto recent accounts.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
But they do make you sign a promissory note that
you'll pay for it if you everbreak free.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yes, so even though legally any counseling or
training you would get whileyou're employed by Scientology,
legally that is on the jobtraining because they're
requiring you to do thiscounseling or this courses, so
it's on the job training it'sillegal for them to charge you
for that.
But if you do leave the Corganization and you want to
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stay a Scientologist and be ableto talk to all your relatives
and other family members inScientology, then you have to
pay what's called a freeloadersbill and Claire and I were given
a.
What was it?
How much was it?
156,000?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
159,000 total between the two of us.
Mine was 96 and change andyours was like 62 or thereabouts
.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah.
So they gave us a $150,000 billfor the Scientology training
and counseling.
I was like, yeah, you knowwhere you can stick that right,
I'm never.
We did not pay a penny of that.
So, yeah, that's how that works, Limley, Thank you for that.
Ideal Borg, AKA CEO BILF.
Question Mark were you everinvolved with the how to use
(23:35):
Dianetics VHS?
Someone uploaded the wholething.
Yeah, I, I quality controlchecked thousands and thousands
and thousands of those and weeven shot a lot of the footage
when I was on the film team forthe videos that ended up going
into the DVD and the how toDianetics, how to kit and all
that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm in that video too .
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yep, you sure is Okay .
Can you read the next one?
I've got to do a sip.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yep.
Oh, I guess he didn't put it upfor me, got to do my own.
Oh, there we go, bo Beats.
Hi guys, do you ever worryabout SPTV Nation becoming too
big and, whether OSA or not,kind of imploding in on itself
with controversy and or drama?
Well, that's kind of the beautyof an organic nation, as SPTV
(24:27):
Nation is.
There's always going to bediffering opinions.
The more voices, the merrier,and so long as there's something
to talk about, known as a cultof Scientology, we'll still be
here talking about it.
So you know, to each their own.
If you don't care for ouropinions, that's okay, you can.
There are plenty of otheroptions.
So you know no one's going toget along all of the time about
(24:50):
everything.
And you know Mark and I are ofthe view let's just keep our eye
on the mountain and stayfocused and keep moving forward.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yep, amen Hail Zinu.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Hail Zinu.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Amy Green says how long did it take you to adjust
to a normal life after leavingScientology?
Wow, I'm going to say it tookus probably about six months,
right?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, in some respects, I think we're still
adjusting sometimes.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, of course, but after about six months we were
like, oh, we're good, this isnot.
This is like.
This is a piece of cake.
We're good.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
We're good at this this is a piece of cake.
We're yeah, we're good.
The biggest crazy crazy.
To me, the biggest like wow,what the heck?
Uh?
Was how much time we had on ourhands and what to do with that
time.
It was shocking.
And also the ability to eatwhatever we wanted whenever we
wanted.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, that was.
That was particularly rough onthe good old me here.
We when, when, when we were inthe Sea Org, I was part of the
clean plate club and you knowyou got three meals a day and
anything outside of that youwere on your own.
So when I found out I could do,you know, five or six or seven
(26:06):
or 27 meals a day, I was like,oh, I got to get used to this,
let's see what's going to happenhere.
And yeah, every time we have,we have three boys and I think I
gained 20 pounds each timeClaire had a kid, but I never
gave up the 20 pounds from thekid before.
So so I was a big old bastardby the end of those, those three
boys.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's called sympathy weight gain right, Isn't that
what they call it?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Oh, it's just called having fun eating gain.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't know what you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, there you go.
Robert Watson said questionhave you?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
ever heard of the river at Tampa Bay?
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I have not Sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Appreciate it though.
The river at Tampa Bay?
No, don't know anything aboutit.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Look at this.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Cece's comfort cooking.
Michael McKay says what's yourthoughts on the freewind story
that Aaron spoke on today?
Have you guys ever been on theship?
I think what he's talking aboutis there was a rumor that the
freewinds had gone into dry dockrecently.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yep, somebody actually just sent an email to
share with Aaron that isconfirmed that it's in Dry Dock
in Curacao as of October 10th.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I understand that, but the video that Aaron did
today is that it's never comingout of Dry Dock.
That's the end of it.
So I'm not exactly sure aboutthat.
The Freewinds I've been on thefree wins many times.
We did events on the free.
Have you ever been on the freewins, claire?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Just the one time when it was in Ensenada.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh, just when everybody went for a few hours,
you went there for three days.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, I was there for three days, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, no, I went there many times on events
and I also went there before Ijoined the Sea Org.
I spent about a week or so, 10days, seven or 10 days or
something like that, but it wasalways a giant piece of trash.
It used to be a ferry boat, Ithink.
(28:05):
Yeah, it used to be a ferryboat, or it was a car hauler or
something.
I can't remember what it was,but it wasn't a really nice
cruise ship.
I may be getting some of thosefacts confused with the Apollo.
I know the Apollo was like acattle freighter at one point,
but the free winds was a giantpile of junk and it had blue
asbestos on it and it had allsorts of nonsense.
(28:27):
And they spent many, manymillions of dollars over the
years upgrading it and trying tomake it as good as possible and
it never, ever, ever wasprofitable.
From the day they opened it tothe to today, it has never made
a dollar.
It's always been run at a lossand they've never been able to
keep enough Scientologists therebecause really, since its
(28:51):
inception, scientology was onthe downturn.
So how many ever people theythought they could get there on
a regular basis?
They've never been able to dothat for the entire time that it
operated, and it was also apiece of shit on top of that.
So I think it would be wise forthem to get rid of it, because
(29:15):
it's just a giant waste of timeand it also is where they can
get away with stuff ininternational waters, so I think
it should be gotten rid of.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, and it can also serve as a floating prison for
people that they never want tosee the light of day.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, and it doesn't hurt that it's involved in all
these lawsuits right now.
So if they get rid of it anddestroy it, then it can't be.
They can't go there, they can'tinvestigate, they can't look
and they can't take pictures,they can't.
You know it's done, it's gone.
So I think they'll get rid ofEventually.
If they don't get rid of it now, they will need to get rid of
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it sooner than later becauseit's just, it's just costing
them money.
Librarian X question.
Do you think DM did therevisions to the books tech as a
way to keep the copyright forauthor services COS 75 years
after first published 100%?
He said so on many occasions.
Yep, that was absolutely partof the strategy?
Yeah, when he announces toScientologists that they had to
(30:15):
revise these things, he has tocome up with a good reason for
them to revise them.
But the main reason they reviverevise them is so that they
could extend the copyrights, andthey they wouldn't because L
Ron Hubbard's passed away.
Um, these things have to besort of revived every once in a
while in order to keep themgoing, and so that's 100 percent
(30:37):
story that started coming outwas oh, whoops the secretary
that put this book togetherdropped it on the way to the
printer, and that's why there'sa forward at page 300.
(31:00):
Even though L Ron Hubbard hasread out of the book as printed
incorrectly for lectures andstuff like that, somehow he
still didn't know that it wasall messed up.
Yep, okay, lrh way.
How did that street get renamed?
You can, you can pretty muchname anywhere in the United
(31:23):
States.
You can name a street aftersomebody.
If you pay that city enoughmoney, they'll name the street.
If you go to any place wherethere's a big Walmart, it's on
Walmart way or Sam Walton laneor you know something like that.
Changing a road name is not ahard thing to do.
So the city of Hollywood or thecity of Los Angeles or LA
(31:45):
County or whatever it isScientology completely redid the
road, made it really nice, paidfor it, all themselves, and the
city said sure, you can put asign up that says Elrond Abbot
Way and it's only like a, let'ssay, a 200 yard section of
street.
It's just one little teenystreet, it's not and it's dead
(32:09):
ended on both sides.
So it ends into a street and itends into another street.
It's just one little leg ofstreet that's called L run
Hubbard way.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, and that I just looked it up.
That was done in 1996 and itdid used to be Barando street.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Awesome A question Don't you guys ever do any lives
with Aaron anymore?
Yeah, I did a live with Aaronlike a week ago.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, we have one coming up on November 4th.
We just all have very busyschedules, and Aaron has the
capacity to do way more than anyof us.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well, so Aaron does his videos during the day and we
do our videos at night after weget off work.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Which is two hours ahead in Florida, because we
have day jobs.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, so that's why we don't always do them together
.
And we have been doing somewith Mike lately because Mike
has wanted to do videos with usand he'll do it at night.
And he reached out to us andsaid, hey, do you guys want to
do this with me?
And we're like sure we're good.
Um, but yeah, we will do, ifAaron.
(33:15):
I talked to Aaron like three orfour times a week.
If he wants to do a video, heknows he can call me and we'll
do a video.
Yep, um, thank you.
Coffee first, please.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Um me too, by the way .
First please.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's a two.
Barrel says what's yourfavorite Depeche mode song?
Ooh, that's a hard one, very,very hard.
I've been just recently.
I've been going through andlistening to every single album
in chronological order, gettingready for the concert that's
about to come up.
But, um, um, I don't know, Idon't, don't really I they're
kind of like kids.
I can't really name my favoritewithout, uh, you know, just
(33:54):
disappointing the other songs.
But, uh, enjoy the silence.
Live in berlin.
Um, on youtube.
Pretty good, pretty good.
Thank you, barrel, for that.
Um and burrow lrh way, how didthat go?
We already did that.
Um, um, silver spoon question.
Hey, claire, what will Mark sayif I ask him what are Claire's
best qualities?
(34:14):
Um, okay, claire, you get toanswer that question.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Well, I don't know what you would say.
It says hey, claire, yeah,that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Say if I ask him what are Claire's best qualities?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Uh, claire's best qualities.
Clearly, I'm just a spectator.
For this one, I think you'd sayI'm pretty good at being
patient and um, putting up witha lot of nonsense and
multitasking beyond his, um,tolerance level.
I will note, but yeah, that'swhat I would say.
What would you say, honey?
That's pretty accurate.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Thank you, good job.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Great Zinu, your homeboy.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Way to use those BTs.
Mark Mike Rinder kept throwinghis at DM.
My BTs are great buds.
They're great at bowling andbarbecues.
Oh, and that whole space operathing was a complete
misunderstanding.
There you go.
I'm telling you, zinu, myhomeboy agrees with the whole
BTs thing.
Bts activate.
You've got to embrace your BTs.
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If those of you who don't know,or if you're a Scientologist and
you don't know, according to LRon Hubbard, we have tens of
thousands of alien souls on us,called body Thetans, otherwise
known as BTs.
I call them space cooties, andScientologists are evicting
these things.
When they get on the upperoperating Thetan levels, they're
evicting these things at a madpace and I say embrace them,
(35:45):
let's live together.
Rising tides raise all ships,live together.
Rising tides, raise all ships.
Thank you for that, zinu.
Gary Gunnels, why is it calledthe Flag Base they used to have,
gary.
Thank you for that.
In the Sea Organization thereused to be several Sea Org ships
and L Ron Hubbard fanciedhimself the commodore of this
(36:08):
flotilla of Sea Organizationvessels.
He called them.
They call them Sea Org MotorVessel, apollo, or the Sea Org
Motor Vessel, the Freewinds.
These are Sea Org Motor Vesselsand when there was a main ship
that Hubbard was on that wascalled the flagship.
That's the key ship that givesthe directions to all the other
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ships in the flotilla and thecommodore is the one who runs
the flagship.
That's the key ship that givesthe directions to all the other
ships in the flotilla and theCommodore is the one who runs
the flagship.
And the flagship was whereScientologists would come from
all over the world to train, toget trained by L Ron Hubbard
himself and to get counseled bypeople that L Ron Hubbard had
trained to be counselors himself.
And when they were looking forHubbard the various governments
(36:51):
of the world.
He could hide out on theseships and they could just go
anywhere they wanted in theocean and they couldn't track
down Hubbard.
Well, at a certain place therewas not really any more places
they could go that they hadn'tbeen chased out of before, and
so they had to move that wholeoperation to land and they first
went to Daytona, florida, andthen they ended up in Clearwater
(37:14):
Florida, at the Fort HarrisonHotel in Clearwater, florida,
and when they did that theycalled it the Flag Land Base and
that is how it became known asthe FLB, or the flag, or flag,
or the flag land base.
Yep, we should clip that, andthat should be how the history,
(37:36):
what?
How?
The flag land base became theflag land base.
Thank you for that, gary Cause.
That was the best summation ofthat I've ever heard, or or?
or manufacturer much.
Darla Curry, one, four, ninesays did you ever see DM beat up
a female Elaborate?
I have never seen him beat up afemale.
(37:58):
I have seen him yell at femalesand I've seen him like yell so
much that there was like alittle bit of spittle kind of
mixed in there in the yelling.
But mostly what he would docorrect me if I'm wrong on this,
claire but mostly what he woulddo is he would get other
females to beat up other females.
He never he knew that thatmight be a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
So he would just throw water and throw water
bottles at females and, yes,you're right, he would make
other females um.
Yeah, take care of business onhis behalf, on his orders, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
And some of them would get a handsy.
Some of them and also, um,girls would beat up guys and
that was like a really weird one, because you'd have a girl
beating on somebody and you'rejust like come on, come on,
let's not be silly.
And yeah, lots of nonsense.
David Miscavige not a nice guy.
(38:58):
Nope, stacey, why Do you thinkOSA is putting out false info
now to see who's leaking toy'all and think little DM is
fuming with the 567 lawsuitslooming?
Yeah, I think I even said thisearlier when the Danny Masterson
declare came out, when the freewin stuff.
I really do think when there'sa lot of like really wild info
(39:21):
that's getting linked almost allthe time, I suspect this is
them telling people to see who'sleaking what to who and, to be
honest, I always think it's OSA,no matter what it is.
I think OSA has something to dowith it in some way, shape or
form, because they're reallytrying to figure out how to
(39:45):
control the narrative here, andI think the only way they know
how is to control what the leaksare.
I think that's sort of whatthey've learned, but there's a
lot of leaks from a lot of areas, so I'm not sure exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, that's why we're just automatically
suspicious of anything thatcauses division, which there
tends to be a fair amount of.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yes, Hi guys, as Kelly P passed from cancer, did
they consider her a PTS, forexample, though who she's been
talking to, and would John Thave to undergo auditing?
The celebrities are always sortof on some sort of program or
(40:30):
on some sort of handling programfrom the Religious Technology
Center.
If they're not in a Scientologyorganization doing auditing and
doing counseling and doingstuff and talking about
Scientology, usually somebody iscalling them and saying, hey,
when's the next time you'regoing to come in or when are you
going to do this?
When you get up to that JohnTravolta, tom Cruise level, I'm
(40:55):
pretty sure they just dowhatever they want.
And unless David Miscavige hasa specific beef or they did
something or said something thathe has, he wants, sorted out,
they pretty much just let themdo whatever they want.
And I will say, of the two'mpretty sure kelly p was the more
um, uh, avid scientologist.
Between her and john, she was110 percent scientology and I
(41:19):
don't think I think over theyears.
John travolta plays nice, buthe's not running out of his way
to fly back to florida so he cango wasn't?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
wasn't ke Kelly, the Narconon spokesperson for a
while?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
No, that was Kirstie Alley.
Kelly was very big on CCHR andshe went to a lot of the marches
and the protests and stuff likethat.
Xenia, your homeboy Question.
Oh, mark, I've been meaning toask you in the Scientology video
with the Fava Flav award for TC, who is doing the music?
In the Scientology video withthe favor Flav award for TC, who
is doing the music in thebackground?
(41:52):
Did they play that at gold orwas it just mixed?
Know that the that MissionImpossible riff bound and Aaron
and Aaron and it.
That was done by a gentleman bythe name of Chris Mayo.
He was a golden era musicianand Tom Cruise loved that though
his reinterpretation of thatriff and how he played it.
(42:13):
And that guy was seriouslypopular with Tom Cruise for
about a year or two and TomCruise was even thinking these
golden era musicians should dosome music for my movies and
stuff like that because of thisone guitar.
Uh, guy, chris mayo and um.
(42:36):
So the golden musicians weretasked with coming up with some
music ideas for missionimpossible and whatever they
came up with uh ended tom cruz'sum fandom of the golden era
musicians.
It was literally such a cheesefest of what they thought that
they could do that.
They were done.
(42:56):
They were dead to him afterthat.
So the Chris Mayo guy got himin the door and then the rest of
the Golden Era musicians took abig, hot, steamy dump right in
Tom Cruise's plate and theyweren't big fans.
Um alexander champagne question.
Would security use lethalforces if, hypothetically, one
(43:17):
were forced the entrance of cstto free shelly, knowing they
don't want the police tointerfere, like when they
rescued mark in 2003?
Who, um, I don't remember mebeing rescued.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Well, no, so when you escaped?
Oh well that was in 2005.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
You'd already escaped from the property, shelly.
Well, those are two differentthings.
The police interfered with meon a public road, so that's that
, and that was my just my dumbluck that that happened.
And if you force the entranceof CST, then it becomes a like
stand your, stand your groundsort of issue, depending on what
(44:07):
state you do that in.
But that's trespassing and youcan defend your property.
I'm not sure if you can defendit with lethal force.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, Jackson has talked about how security were
being trained to be prepared touse lethal force in the event of
intruders on the property.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah okay.
There you go.
John Satowski, where does thebest fudge come from?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Uranus Missouri.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It comes from John Satowski, because I didn't get
it from wherever this Uranusplace is.
I got it from John Satowski.
But, yeah, I got it right here.
I got it.
I got it right up here in casehe mentions it.
Do you get?
Are you on a commission basis,john?
What's the deal with you inthis fudge place?
We're curious.
(44:58):
Yeah, a lot of fudge, a lot offudge.
Abigail, have you seen thetrivia live stream Aaron's been
doing with Reese?
Yeah, that, where they pretendthat they're more stupid than
even most Seward members are.
Sterling, joined them on thelast one.
I feel like it would be greatif you joined.
I suggested Jackbox on one,which would be awesome with you
(45:20):
guys.
I don't know what a Jackbox is.
Is that Jackson?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I don't think so.
I don't know what a.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Jackbox is.
But yes, abigail, thank you.
No, like I said, aaron's doingall those while I'm at work, so
sometimes I do have them playingin the background while I'm
working, but I have a day job.
Hey guys, una from Belfast,when you were both in the Sea
(45:46):
Org, was Claire worried thatMark was always getting in
trouble or being moved, etcetera?
Did it affect her role?
That's a great question.
Go ahead, claire.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yes, I was very worried.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Mark and I had a few ups and downs over this topic,
but yeah, I'm just going to showthis one too, because this is
actually a super chat from thesame person.
Om22,.
Hey guys, una from Belfast.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
When Mark got in trouble or pissed on someone was
this fed back to Claire and didit ever impact her on her role?
So it's pretty much the samething Ultimately, um, my refusal
to divorce Mark at theinsistence of David Miscavige,
was the reason that I was uh,removed from religious
technology center and put intothe hole.
So, yes, it did have an impact,and many uh, on a few different
(46:31):
occasions I was being told Iabsolutely had to divorce him or
I'd lose my job, which dideventually happen.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, that's a fact.
And then this guy did anotherone.
I'm not sure.
Hey guys, yes, oh, it's, una.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh, I'm 22.
Una from Belfast I know whothis person is OK, good.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Well, we definitely answered all of his questions.
Super chat and not Blood drillsays who is Jenny Linson for 600
?
Mark.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Dillon Gill in the house Jenny Linson.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Also no, it's Linson.
By the way, jenny Linson is thedaughter of Art Linson.
Linson is the daughter of artlinson, who is the producer of
the hit tv show yellowstone, aswell as, uh, mayor of kingstown
is that the name of the show?
The other show, um, and a bunchof other great shows that I
love um, isn't her brotherinvolved in yellowstone too, her
(47:28):
?
brother, john linson is also aproducer, I think, on
Yellowstone.
I'm not sure if he's also theproducer on Mayor of Kingstown,
but so, yes, they all three ofthem lost money in a Ponzi
scheme done by a gentleman bythe name of Art Linson, not Art
(47:50):
Linson Reed.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Slatkin.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Art Linson, john Linson and Jenny Linson all lost
money in that, and so did theguy that plays Rip in the show
Can't remember his name rightoff the bat Hauser, what's his
name?
Something Hauser.
His dad's name was Wings Hauser.
I can't remember the guy's name, but anyway, the actor who
plays rip, um, was also uh, alsolost a ton of dough in that
(48:15):
thing.
Um, jenny linson was at the intinternational headquarters as a
seahawk member.
She used to be married to agentleman by the name of tom
devocht, who has since escapedscientology and spoken out, it
was Cole Hauser.
Cole Hauser, that's right.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Thanks, Matt.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
And anyway.
So Jenny was in the Sea Org.
She used to be in the CMO,which is the Commodore's
Messenger Organization inClearwater, and then she was
moved to the base to be one ofDavid Miscavige's lieutenants
and she is a nasty piece of workand she is likely involved in
anything that has to do withharassing ex-Seahawk members.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
If you'd like to see her in action, go on over to
YouTube and search Marty Rathbun, lax, jenny Linson and you will
understand yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
I wish Marty would have cleaned his camera lens
before shooting that.
It would be so much better.
Laura Font says didn't LRH saywe have X amount of years to
clear the planet?
Hasn't that date passed?
What did Scientologists thinkwould happen if we didn't meet
the goal?
How do they justify or explaina way not meeting this goal?
That's a great question.
And L Ron Hubbard did say thatthreat was eminent from external
(49:27):
forces and that the world wasabout to end and it would be
destroyed um by um, by nuclearor atomic war and um, and that's
really kind of like the, the.
The atmosphere whichScientology thrives under is
like we don't have a lot of time, we got to do this right now
(49:48):
and um, that's why it's all.
Everything's always rush, rush,rush, rush, rush, um.
And I'm not sure how theyjustify any of this, because he
said he was coming back in 2007.
Just checking, and no, he'soverdue.
Missed a bus or a trainsomewhere.
Where do you be, l or H?
That package arrived, by theway, claire, just so you know.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Awesome, jessica Borg says.
Next stuffy should be spacecooties.
Such a good name Could evenmake ones that stick to things.
Just an idea Could make Velcrospace cooties that just stick to
anything.
I love it, jessica.
Write this down, keep track ofJessica.
If space cooties come,jessica's going to be the first
(50:30):
one to get one.
I love the Space Cootie idea,jessica.
I don't even know why no one'sever suggested that Space
Cooties could be a big thing.
Buy your own Space Cooties.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I will say I just love the creativity in this
community.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, if you guys think Space Cootie should be the
next stuffy, get in there, getin those comments and say thumbs
up for space cooties or spacecooties for the win.
Do you got to get in thecomments?
I got to know if there's ageneral consensus that we should
create space cootie stuffies toas a fundraiser.
(51:06):
Um, if, if, if you guys will doit and you guys will buy them,
then we'll do them.
We got to get rid of these,davey, captain Davey from the
Space Navy.
First, though, because I'm notmaking.
We don't do more than one atthe same time.
That's just how it works.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Thank you, Jessica.
I appreciate that.
Do you want to jump out anddeal with that package?
And I can wrap up the rest ofthese questions.
Bye, I'll see you all soon, soonwe have a package arrived that
claire needs to deal with.
So I, you're all you're leftwith me now.
Um and um, let's see we have.
I'm gonna answer as many as Ican.
Um and uh, let's see johnsatowska.
(51:42):
I laugh when I think how manytimes osa sees the word uranus
in the sptv transcripts.
I laugh then when I just thinkthat um, osa has to watch these
videos.
For those of you who are new tothe channel, osa is the Office
of Special Affairs,scientology's spy wing, and they
are responsible for people thatexpose Scientology in the real
(52:05):
world and they are tasked withshutting them down and dealing
with them.
And there is about I moved mymicrophone, I muted myself.
Sorry about that.
There's about 50 channels onYouTube right now that are doing
um, scientology type uh exposés.
Like all day, every day, thesevideos are coming out and um and
(52:28):
OSA is the one task with havingto listen, to transcribe and
summarize these things and tellDavid Miscavige what's what the
internet is up to, uh and howthey're treating Scientology.
So, um, yeah, it's must be Russ, must be rough, oh, so that you
guys just have to do this on afull-time basis.
But hey, there, we're herewhenever you guys want to bail.
(52:50):
That will help you.
Here we go.
If you didn't know, oh, it'sAbigail again.
Thank you, abigail.
If you didn't know, jackbox isa party game series where you
connect over the internet andyou can play games ranging from
trivia, drawing, socialdeduction, et cetera.
I can email Claire with themain website explaining more.
(53:11):
Okay, cool, oh, so you want usto play Jack box?
You want us to do that?
You know that's um, that's likeKelly copter, um, territory
there, she, I think they did a,they did a werewolf game today.
I watched it for a little bit.
I didn't see who won in the end, but um, but I did go in there
and um, I think, um, the mayorof uh of Neverinton was uh, was
(53:36):
uh, unalived before I, rightbefore I left.
Um, the raffa-daffa-doo, claraMark, all, all y'all are some.
Clara Mark, all y'all areawesome.
Question have either of you evermet Monique Yingling?
She seems especially rotten.
I have met her at an event orsomething like that.
(53:59):
I can't even remember what itwas.
It might have been the 1993 WarIs Over event.
When I met her she got an awardfrom David Miscavige.
She was one of the mainarchitects who helped them get
um, get tax exemption and thenshe became his personally turn,
a personal attorney after thatevent.
(54:19):
And, um, and she's not even aScientologist.
She, she is the de facto uhScientology spokesman right now.
Whenever they have a a reallybig uh fire that they need to
put out, they send Monique overthere to yap and she, when she
talks, she blinks.
She blinks a little bit morethan you would think for someone
who's just talking and I thinkher nickname is Blinky
(54:41):
McBlinkface I think that's whatMike Rinder calls her.
Thank you for that.
The Raffa Daffa do.
Stacey Y again start chartsuggestions.
Casey Y again start chartsuggestions.
Start stat chart suggestions.
Danny in the Davey in thedependent chair.
Or get SPTV to replace Leah onall the blame and spiteful sites
.
She needs a break of being theultimate super SP.
(55:03):
Many channels are earning theircapes yeah, they.
I think the reason they goafter Leah the hardest because
she has the largest reach andshe is technically technically,
I mean, I'm going to say she'sinflicting the heaviest amount
of damage to them currently, orjust has been generally just
(55:25):
with the amount of people thatshe can reach.
So, yeah, there might be somesort of Scientology axiom, which
is the number of hate sites andhate propaganda is proportional
to the number of suppressiveacts we appear to be committing
to them.
Christian B says Claire, do youthink I'm sorry I'll have to
(55:46):
answer this one Do you think thetiny troll DM is watching
insanely jealous of how greatyour haircut is and thinking to
himself I need a new hairstyle?
I think he is jealous ofClaire's hair.
Um, claire doesn't have anyplugs like he does.
And um, and I know she's nottaking any of that HGH, all that
(56:07):
amount of HGH he's taken.
So, um, we're going to err onthe side.
Christian, that he's jealous,and he's also just jealous of us
in general because he can't goanywhere, do anything.
He's got to hide out in hisScientology countdown.
Vince and Giggles says I vote,make John Satowski and eat more
(56:29):
pizza.
Mods, they're both hilarious andknow how to swing a wrench.
Yeah, I think for now, claire'sjust being, uh, being the mod
and um, we'll see.
Most of the modding can be justdone with keywords.
I mean, I I've seen nonsense inhere from every once in a while
, but it's a chat.
It's like, okay, um, okay,let's see if there's any other
(56:50):
ones here.
I missed guys.
I wanted to get out of hereunder an hour and I think we're
getting pretty close there.
Let's look at Wonder Woman here.
She says Wonder Woman questiondo you think Osa tells Diem
about him being teased?
Example 413, captain Davy Dahl.
You know that's the thing.
We've sort of argued about thisin the past and it's been going
(57:35):
on for a long time.
That's not good for, that's nota good look for OSA or anyone
in RTC who knows about this.
Um, so I think they may havetold him that we're making a
doll or something like that, butI'm not sure.
I'm not sure how many they'vepurchased or are they?
Did they have to send up asample?
(57:56):
I mean, it is what it is.
Um, I haven't.
Um, I haven't seen anysuspicious orders, like, I
haven't seen any dolls orderedto the any of the Scientology
facilities but um, but when wewent into a lawsuit with them
and we went into um depositions,they had a signed copy of my
book that was a pre-release,super special edition version
(58:19):
that they got from somewhere.
So it is what it is.
We're doing it to support theAftermath Foundation.
It just happens to be hilariousthat it's a little Davey thing
and if you haven't ordered oneof your Captain Davey of the
fake Space Navy, you can get oneand they're on the SP Shop If
you go to the spshopcom.
(58:41):
We have bobbleheads, we havebracelets and we also have these
little dolls here At thespshopcom.
I got to update my thing to puta Captain Space Davey, captain
Space Davey from the fake Navyor whatever, the Captain
Chucklesworth, but you can getthose from the spshopcom.
(59:01):
And then if you guys, where isit here?
If you want to support the um,the channel, you can go to blown
for goodcom, um, or you can goto the um, the BFG merch store,
and that's where you can pick upXenu is my homeboy, merch hail,
Xenu cups, mugs, mouse pads,all that good stuff, um, that
(59:24):
helps us support the channel,keeps us, uh, doing this stuff.
And then if you want to helpthe aftermath foundation, you
can go totheaftermathfoundationorg.
You can sign up to be avolunteer, you can sign up to
get notices when we do stuff,and that's where the SP shop
comes in.
Anything that we sell on the SPshop bobbleheads, mike Rinder
bobbleheads, or SP bracelets, spyou can get those, all those.
(59:52):
And the Captain Space Daveyfrom the Fake Navy, you can get
all those things at thespshopcom.
That's going to do it for ustonight.
Guys, thank you for joining us.
Thank you everybody who watchedtill the very end, and we
appreciate it.
And, yeah, until next time.
Thanks for watching.
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