Scientology Fair Game: Letters of Intimidation Hit Client List - Scientology Secrets #4 - Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey guys, welcome to the channel, welcome to another
episode of Scientology Secrets.
I've got my lovely wife Clairehere today.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, hey, hey, happy Friday.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, happy Friday.
We've got a.
We've got a.
We rarely do an episode duringthe week these days and
Scientology's been busy, busylittle bees this week, and so
they know how to show us thatthey've missed us and motivate
us to do more.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
so here we are.

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Yeah, anyway, so so, yeah.
So we're going to do a live,we're going to give people a
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We do, and also the Melbourne people appreciate it
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Speaker 2 (03:58):
Melbourne oh my goodness, Not Melbourne.
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Speaker 1 (04:07):
Melbourne.
Oh, look at that.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
We English folk like to pronounce our letters
Melbourne.

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Speaker 2 (04:18):
Hey Mitch, hey Mitch Mitch has been working on many
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Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yes, he is, he has been.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
He's the best.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Okay, we've got working on many super secret
projects.
Yes, he is, he has been, he'sthe best.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay, we've got over 100 people in here now.
Oh, we've got a few more peoplehere.
Okay, manchester, uk, myhometown, jess, awesome, barbara
, hello from Western New York.
Thank you for joining us.
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Love from a rainy Prescott,arizona, awesome, nice, okay,
awesome.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay, so let's talk about what's happening here.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, let's have a conversation.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
So I don't remember.
I think it was in 2023.
What?
When you were talking oh sorry,I've hit the wrong button.
Back in 2023, do you rememberwhat we were doing?
We were just doing a lot ofYouTube videos.
I think that's what it was?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yes, I remember exactly what it was.
So you've had a YouTube channel.
For what was it?
We just had our 17th yearanniversary 2018, 2008,.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think is when I started.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Right, but mid-December 2022, you started
doing, we started doing a lotmore on YouTube and very quickly
I was like hey, wait a minute,you're having way too much fun,
let me join in.
And so that's what was going on.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And then in February 2023, for no other good reason.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's when the new round of attacks started.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, so what they did, what Scientology did, and
we'll put a link into the video.
I think it was Mike and I whodid a video.
Mike Rinder and I did a videowhere we went through what the
Office of Special AffairsScientology spy wing, formerly
known as the Guardian's Office,the same organization that
perpetrated the largestinfiltration of the United
States government in its history.

(06:10):
The Office of Special Affairshave a little you could call it,
a department or section withinthe Office of Special Affairs
where they run this thing calledthe STAD League Scientologists
Taking Action AgainstDiscrimination, and for some
reason they call it STAND, eventhough there's no N word in the

(06:34):
abbreviation.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Right.
It's very out of characteractually, because Scientology is
so good at their acronyms, thisone they just really messed up.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
They boofed it guys.
They call it the stand league,but it's really the stod league
stod anyway.
Um, they sent this letter to awhole bunch of my clients, my,
my business clients that Ioperate totally separate than
all the scientology nonsenseyeah, like literally has nothing
to do with scientology.

(07:02):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
So they sent these letters to a bunch of my clients
, and if you're saying, well,how do they know who my clients
were?
They just went to my company'swebsite and on our website we
have the profiles of projectsthat we've done in the past.
And so they looked up thoseclients on our website and then
figured out who they could writeletters to at those companies

(07:29):
and they started sending theseletters.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Because, lest we wonder whether they still fair
game, of course they do.
This is a perfect example.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, and then do you have the 2023 thing, the names
yes, can you give it to me?
Yeah, and then do you have the2023 thing, the names yes, can
you give it to me yeah.
Okay, so then, at the end ofthe letter that they sent to my
clients, there were three pagesof signatories that had about
looks like about 12 people oneach page and there was a total

(08:01):
of what's that 24?
And there was a total of what'sthat 24?
I'm not good at math, but Iguess that's it's like 30, 33
names on this on the list ofsignatories at the end of their
letter.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Of their cast of bandits should we call it as to
who's willing to put their nameto a letter?
That is slanderous, false,vindictive and everything else.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, it's a misleading, inaccurate letter at
best.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, exactly At best .

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But okay.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So they did that.
But it is Scientology puttingtheir tax-exempt dollars to how
they use their tax exemptdollars.
Let's not forget that part.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, you and I are paying for this, for them to do
this.
We're subsidizing them throughthe government.
Yeah, because they don't paytaxes, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah.
Because they're a nonprofit andthey are a tax exempt
organization.
Yeah, okay, so so we're talkingFebruary 2023, just to be very
specific.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, so, um, so we're talking February 2023,
just to be very specific.
Yes, they did a whole round andat that time, of course, all of
Mark's clients just say whatthe heck, these guys are maniacs
.
Can you?
Are they ever going to leaveyou alone?
Like that was the flavor of theresponse to those letters.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, of the people that we heard from.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
So I have to say this because it's a fact A lot of
these projects are projects thatwe may have done 10 years ago,
right, some even 15 years ago,and some of these, some of the
places, don't even exist anymore, right, like they went, moved
to a different building or theyshut down.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
They got bobbled up by another company.
Their company name changed,whatever.
There's a billion reasons whyyou know the point was to.
The point of your website is toshowcase the work that you do.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
That we've done in the past, right, it's actually,
I think it's even under asection that's called past
projects or project profiles orsomething like that, right?
So okay, so that that happened.
We heard from a few of theseclients that said hey, we got
this letter and what the helland?
Um.
And then we answered them oh,my wife and I are part of a

(10:22):
nonprofit and as part of that,we expose Scientology in our
free time.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
We volunteer to help people get out of a cult, and
nine times out of 10, I thinkagain thanks to Leah Remini,
scientology in the Aftermath.
Most of these people have heardabout the crazy, abusive
practices of Scientology.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
In almost all cases, people are aware of Scientology,
but not necessarily aware thatwe had anything to do with that
or exposing them or any of that,Because when I go and do a
project for somebody as part ofmy company, we don't talk about
that or we don't.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
it's not part of we don't lead with that.
Hi, it's not part of the job.
My name is Claire.
I was born into a cult and Iescaped in 2005.
Please, let me help you.
That's not how we lead.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, okay, so that happened and we showed the
letter.
We read the letter online Again.
I'll put a link in thedescription to the original
video so you can hear Mike and Italk about it back in February
of 2023.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, and, by the way , many people very kindly
provided information anddocumentation on the cast of
bandits that signed that letter.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh yeah, that's right .
We didn't know who some ofthese people were.
We didn't have their contactinfo, and so a bunch of viewers
of the channel and internetsleuths you know part-time
internet sleuths track thesefolks down and to see if they
could find out where they wereand what they did and all that
good stuff.
And we got a lot of that and itwas helpful.

(11:56):
Now I think the purpose of ofthis is is this is this is rides
a fine line of um illegalmisuse of uh as a non-profit.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
it's right on the edge of like this is obviously
trying to um destroy us hurt our, our um, they're trying to
destroy us at, following thewords of l ron hubbard.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, otherly, destroy, destroy utterly, is the
exact quote from L Ron Hubbardwhat you're supposed to do to
people that expose Scientology'swrongdoings?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, find what they love, destroy it.
Find what they hate, exploit it, destroy them utterly.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, now I think what they want to do is they
want to bait us into gettinginto a legal skirmish with them
completely that's ideally whatwe would do.
We would say, hey, you can'tmess with us, we're going to
come after you legally, and thenthat opens the door for

(13:03):
discovery from their end.
It opens the door for discoveryfrom their end.
It opens the door for discoveryfor our end.
But we are not a billion dollarcriminal pyramid scheme
operating as a religious groupin the United States, so we
don't have that, those sort ofresources and it's.
It would then take time awayfrom me exposing Claire or I

(13:27):
exposing Scientology and workingand doing my business and doing
these things.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Spending time with our family getting on with our
lives all of those things.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah.
So it's basically just in orderto distract us from our mission
and what we're doing and ourlives and have us kind of
sideline us into this legalthing.
And additionally, if you're everin the middle of a legal
situation with somebody and youhire an attorney, the first

(13:59):
thing the attorneys tell you isto STFU about what you're doing,
because that makes it a problemand it just creates more
discovery and more work for theattorneys and it may or may not
give more ammo to either side ifyou just keep talking about
them.
So it is also a way that so ifyou do get into a legal skirmish

(14:21):
with them, you are pretty muchsidelined until that legal
skirmish is over.
There's not a lot you cansometimes do, and also it
depends on your attorneys and itdepends on the case and all
this other stuff.
But in most scenarios yourlawyer is going to say well,
until this is done, you got tostop talking about them and you
got to stop doing this becausewe got to our shit together and

(14:45):
trying to figure out what we'regoing to do against these guys.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yep, and we know this from four years of lawyers
telling us we could couldn't sayanything publicly from 2009 to
2012.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, so we're not just.
This is not just somethingwe've been advised of, it's a,
it's something that we livedthrough.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And we've seen it happen with other people and
we've also and also this isanother byproduct of this
sometimes happening is, let'ssay, we do.
The reason I'm telling you guysall this is because this is
commonly brought up in thecomments oh, you should sue them
, oh, you should do this, youshould do that.

(15:26):
And the reason that we do not dothat is because of what we're
telling you right now.
But the other thing thathappens is if we do end up suing
Scientology and they basicallyhave to fold and settle.
There are certain scenarioswhich at a certain point, your
law firm that would represent usand make you sign an agreement

(15:48):
saying, if there is a viablesettlement on the table, that
you will not only accept thesettlement but you will also
accept the terms of thesettlement.
And if you do settle a legalcase with Scientology, in almost
all cases you're going to haveto sign a gag order that you're
no longer going to talk aboutScientology.

(16:08):
They're going to give you tensof millions of dollars and then
you're going to be done and thenthat's the end of it.
So that's another good reasonfor them to kind of get us into
that arena, so that if theycan't ruin us utterly by sucking
all our time and money into alawsuit.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
They would love to silence us utterly.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Believe you me the worst case scenario is that we
win and then they silence usthrough a settlement, so anyway,
so that's that.
Okay, so that's February 2023.
Okay, yesterday I was travelingall week doing a project.
I was building some stuff for amusic museum and we finished

(16:51):
that.
That went well.
We finished that on Thursday andwe came back Thursday night and
then Claire told me hey, justso you know, I got an email from
one of your past clients andthey got a letter from the Stand
League again and I was like, ohgreat, what's it now?
And essentially it was theexact same letter that they sent

(17:14):
before, but they modified thesignet.
They added a bunch of people tothe signature page on the back
and they added a lot of peoplethat we knew we didn't know a
lot of.
We knew a few of the peoplethat was on the back and they
added a lot of people that we weknew we didn't know a lot of.
We knew a few of the peoplethat was on the original list,
but they added some more people.
And then they also changed someof the names of the people that

(17:34):
were on the list before, whichis also sort of odd, and we're
going to go through all that.
You know me, I love an audit butClaire is a bookkeeper, so she
did a, a, b, she comparedeverything to see what the
difference is they convenientlyswitched everything around
there's no making it easy andthey did add two paragraphs to

(17:55):
the letter.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I will say that.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Why don't we just bring up the letter?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Okay, you want to do that.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Sure, let me just make sure I get the right page
of the letter.
Okay, so here's the letter.
Let's see.
Oh geez, we're small now.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
There we go.
We redacted it for obviousreasons.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Okay, so you want me to read this.
Sure Stand League is theanti-defamation league of the
Scientology religion, and wewrite on behalf of all
Scientologists to inform youthat Mark Headley, a virulent
anti-religious bigot, publiclybrags about work he has done
with your brand, therebydestroying your company's

(18:33):
reputation Seriously.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
For example, attached is a picture Headley proudly
posted of himself online andwhich is currently circulating
the internet Now, currentlylet's just talk about the use of
the word currently.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
This was from 2005.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
And you posted it in 2012.
Tell our viewers why you postedthat picture in 2012.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
There was a person who was working for OSA who used
to be a very good friend ofmine.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
You can name him.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
His name is Eric Geisler, we call him Eric
Speisler.
He was a spy for the Office ofSpecial Affairs and he had this
photo and when I was exposingScientology and I think we were
actually in the middle of thelawsuit with Scientology during
this time in 2012 when thiswhole thing went down and he

(19:29):
basically sent me this pictureand said, hey, if you don't stop
, we wouldn't want any of thisstuff to get out and then he
sent this picture to me in thetext chain, and so then I just
went online and took the pictureand put it on Facebook and said
, hey, this is a picture.

(19:50):
Um, somebody is going to try toblackmail me with cause you
never had this picture.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I've never this time, yeah, no no, here, hold on back
up a second.
So two, so our lawsuit was doneby this time.
It had just finished and youhad posted online saying you
know what we're done with thelawsuit, now we can talk again.
So I've done an outline of booktwo of blown for good behind
the iron curtain of Scientology,and you said these are all the

(20:17):
characters, because some of thestories of what happened, what
has happened to us since leavingScientology, are even crazier,
though Some of it is evencrazier than what happened to us
since leaving Scientology, oreven crazier, though Some of it
is even crazier than whathappened to us when we were in
and you named some specificpeople and he was on that list,
which is what prompted him tothreaten you with release of you
wouldn't want this photo to getout and you were like actually,

(20:38):
I don't mind, I was like I waslike whatever, yeah, Way to
preempt it there.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Okay, so that's the context.
Yes, that is the context.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah.
So, as you can see from thetext beneath the photo, hedley
posted quote my birthday, 2005might have had one too many.
Okay, let's just say forcontext, you escaped, or we both
escaped, the headquarters inJanuary 2005.
Yeah, this January 2005.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
This was May 2005.
Your very first birthday freeof Scientology.
Okay, you got drunk.
Wow, and guess what folks?
It's 20 years later.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, it's 2025 now, so that picture was from 2005.
And also, to be fair, it's apretty epic birthday, okay, I
mean, I don't mind saying Ididn't know who a lot of these
people were at the time, but youknow who was at my birthday?
The band 311 played.
The kardashians were there.
Um, it was, it wasn't.

(21:40):
They weren't there for mybirthday.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
What's the designer?
What's the designer?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
It was our friend of ours, his name was Christian and
he had this new clothing linecame out, coming out called Ed
Hardy.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
There it is.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And it was at the Ed Hardy fashion release party when
the brand was going to gopublic and they were going to
start selling stuff.
And it was in Hollywood and itwas at Hollywood and Vine, which
, if you know Hollywood,hollywood and Vine is a very
famous intersection on HollywoodBoulevard, and on the opposite

(22:26):
side of that block is theScientology Middle Management
Headquarters, which is knownwithin the organization as the
HGB or the Hollywood GuaranteeBuilding, which is at Hollywood
and Ivar, the next street overfrom Vine.
So it was in May it was May21st, which is my actual
birthday, and we were invited tothis party and since it was my
birthday, I mean, and there wasan open bar and some of my old
Scientology friends that werespying on me and taking pictures
of me while I was passed out onHollywood Boulevard were also

(22:47):
there with me, such greatfriends.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, it's awesome, it's good stuff, yeah, good
stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Anyway.
So we went to this party, andbecause I was, I grew up in
Scientology and in the Sea Orgfor many, many years.
Not a lot of drinking going on,and so I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
And you were malnourished at the time.
So the alcohol differently thanit was.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, no, I was perfectly nourished by the time
this happened.
Okay, fine, fine, but I didn'tknow that 15 rum and Cokes was
too many rum and Cokes.
That's the problem I had.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
There's one way to learn.
That isn't there.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I do now know it wasn't tequila, it wasn't vodka,
it was rum.
Rum was my, my drink of choiceat the time.
I have switched to anotherdrink, uh, water, um, but um,
yes, so, um, it was an amazingparty, was?
It was, it was a great time,okay, so that happened, um, and

(23:50):
then.
So then, later on, came thishey, we wouldn't want this photo
to get out.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
The photo went out, um, and then I put it out, yeah
so you put it in, put it out in2012 and then 2023.
I guess osa finally got aroundto figuring out that they wanted
to silence us.
So, finishing off this letterhere, they said at and so this
is April 17th, as in yesterday,as you can see, the CEO of the

(24:17):
company currently using you as apublic reference is lying in
his own vomit, passed out in thegutter on Hollywood Boulevard.
Is this something you wantassociated with your brand?
And then now for the two newparagraphs, which are amazingly
culty and ridiculous.

(24:37):
As you know, mark Hedley worksin audio visual installation,
that's also a weird way to sayit.
It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
A foreigner wrote this.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, completely, they don't even know how to
speak of the English.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
You wouldn't write it like that.
That's a little weird.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Judge O Scanlon of the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals found that quote.
Mark left the Church ofScientology in January 2005
after being told that he wasunder investigation for
embezzlement.
Unquote.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, they use that as the judge said it.
But he's saying what the casehistory?
He's just reading the casehistory.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, because also we'll reference again, as we've
referenced many times, the judgealso said in that same ruling
had we pursued other causes ofaction, such as false
imprisonment, assault andbattery, et cetera, we may have
fared differently.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Okay, next sentence that embezzlement was of, quote,
$15,490 of the church's AV.
Okay, so hold on.
I brought some extradocumentation here just for
giggles.
This is Mark's SP declare fromJanuary 2005, which references

(25:53):
none other than $750.
So we've got some mathematicalproblems happening in the Office
of Special Affairs.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
And when it says AV Problems happening in the Office
of Special Affairs, and when itsays AV, that's shipping and
eBay fees Correct, yeah, which.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
And even when you were there, what was it?
They told you $250.
$250, which you offered to paywith your back pay that they
were holding, and they said no,no, no, you can't do that.
Okay, Back to the letter.

(26:32):
You may want to reach out toMark at Mark's email to instruct
him to stop using yourcompany's good name as a form of
self-promotion at your expense.
Newsflash Osa.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
They sent your letter straight to us and said quote
these folks are batshit, crazy,unquote.
There you go, that did happen,it did happen, happen, okay.
So that's the letter.
And then, um, I keep gettingthis weird layout here.
Okay, good, and then on thenext page is the photo.
Just posted the pic to facebook.
Uh, that's facebook, that's myex account back at the time.
And then it has all thesepeople that signed.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Okay, now these now we figured we would.
We would add tell, telleveryone who's been added to
their cast of bandits right.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, this is the 2003, um 2023 list.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, and so the two names circled there,
interestingly, are no longer onthe cast of bandits.
So what's it say?
Ellis Craig and James Lowell,james Lowell, yeah, now let me
if you have escaped and youwould like to talk to us about
this letter, do reach out.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, for some reason those two people were removed
from the second letter, buteverybody who's circled on this
list is also appears on the nextlist.
Now, this one is veryinteresting.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
This person's name in the first letter is called
Ingrid Rogers.
Now just remember that that wetalked about that.
She says she's from Los Angeles.
Producer, actress, mother, wife, champion of truth,
scientologist.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Champion of truth.
Have you met one of thosebefore honey?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I've actually not ever met a champion of truth.
Do they get it like in a medalceremony?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Do they have like a special uniform?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I don't know.
Champions of truth?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I don't know.
Okay, now here I wonder if theyget a salary.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Here is the Okay.
And also, by the way, how manypeople did we hear from that got
that letter?
Two or three, I don't remember.
On that I know we heard from atleast one.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Two.
I remember one.
One said wow, these guys arecrazy.
Will they ever leave you alone?

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
The other.
Another one said, wow, where'sthis guy?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, they said where's this guy?
Where was this guy when he wasdoing the installations?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
And they put.
They didn't put the letter,they just put the picture up on
the staff notice board sayingMark from the company that I
worked at.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I think there was at least two others that notified
us that they had received yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
So, let's say, a handful of them reached out to
us and said hey, just so youknow, I got this letter and you
know it's, I will tell you.
I won't tell you which client,but I will tell you that the
next time that I went and did ajob at that place, um, or a time
when I had to go back and do ajob at that place, um, they
asked me if they could take meto dinner and maybe ask me some

(29:24):
questions about the crazy place,about Scientology.
And so I said, okay, yeah, noproblem, fine.
So we did go back to that place, we did go to dinner and we
were having dinner, we werehaving a good time.
They introduced me to the mayorof the town at that dinner,
like, they brought the mayor tothe table and said, oh, this is

(29:45):
Mark, he was on this TV show,he's doing some work for us.
Said, oh, this is Mark, he wason this TV show, he's doing some
work for us.
And then we went.
When we sat back down at thetable and we were continuing
eating, one of the people at theplace said hey, is it okay if
we ask you some of thosequestions now?
We were pretty much done eating, and it was just at the end.
We're just yapping.
And then this guy, he pulledout of his.

(30:08):
I said, yeah sure, no problem,whatever, whatever you want.
He pulls out a bunch of piecesof paper all folded up legal
signs, like three or four pagesof questions, and everybody at
this table started laughing likedude, whoa, slow your roll.
It was a lot, anyway, but wehad a great time.

(30:30):
I told them all kinds of crazyTom Cruise and John Travolta
stories, and David Miscavige,fake Navy Davey, told them all
kinds of crazy stories.
Okay, so then, fast forward.
Also.
We just kept working Likewhatever we kept doing YouTube,
we kept doing whatever we weredoing.
We kept doing the AftermathFoundation stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, because really the goal of it is to shut us up
and silence us, or I don't know,you know.
I will say, though, thatthere's part of me that goes
what they want us to quit ourday jobs and do nothing but
expose Scientology full time.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's what I brought up at the time, guys, I said
listen, if you take out my dayjob, then I'll just do this as
my whole job I love.
I actually really do enjoydoing this.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I think it's fun.
I especially enjoy helpingpeople.
Gtfo I mean that I will do anyday of the week for no money
whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
When somebody calls us and they say they watched one
of our videos or they read mybook or they saw the billboard
or whatever the situation is,and they say that they've now
left Scientology in some casestheir whole family got out of
Scientology I get a warm, fuzzyfeeling.
That's just what happens.
That's just me, okay, that'sjust me.

(31:48):
I figure, I figure.
Well, all the trouble and allthe suffering and the 15 years
of being in the Sea Org andgrowing up in Scientology.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
And losing our all of our family and having to start
over with nothing but 20 bucksin our pocket from absolutely
nothing.
Yeah, all of that, and beingspied on, and, and, and, and,
and.
The least we can do is helpsomeone else.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
That's right.
So when they say you helped me,it kind of is like, okay, I did
all that, like I did all thatand I made the right decision
and now it's worth it and it's,and then it kind of re-energizes
me to keep doing it Yep, okay.
So we, we've been doing it thiswhole time.
We stopped, yep, okay.
Now something happened in thelast month or two that's got

(32:37):
them all a flutter, okay.
I don't know if it was the uh,fake navy davy, uh dolls that
we're selling.
Uh, shout out to the SP shop.
You get yourself a fake NavyDavy doll or a Captain
Chucklesworth or whatever youwant to call him.
Fake Space Navy, fake SpaceDavy, whatever it is.

(32:59):
I don't know if it was that.
I don't know if it was theScientology secret story that
we're doing now, where we'retalking about Lord Xenu and the
Body Thetans.
Have I ever mentioned thatwould be a great band name?
um, I don't know if it was Idon't know, have you I don't
know if it was the billboardswhich we put up all over los

(33:19):
angeles.
The aftermath that's what I'mbetting on, I know, but we don't
know for sure we don't okay.
So Osa, you got us Okay Can youdrop us a memo.
We know we did something.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Tell us what's getting you a flutter, as Mark
says.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
We know we did something.
We don't know what it was.
So here's the deal.
We know it was one of thosethings, right?
Yep, it was probably thebillboards.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Probably.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
We're going to keep doing more billboards.
We're going to keep doing morebillboards.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
And we have some.
There's three billboards whichwe're going to talk about this
tomorrow in great detail and Ihave video and pictures now.
But there are the billboardsare very strategically placed

(34:09):
not to pack now which is wherethey really got a flutter with
the immediate erection of ascissor lift.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
But you said erection .
That's what you do to a scissorerect it.
Okay, take it easy there.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Slow, slow your roll there, okay ginge but these
billboards are unavoidablearound all around where the
seahawk members live.
So, like the closest starbucksto to birthing, the lodging
where all the Sea Org memberslive, it has Mike's billboard.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, we're going to save that for tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, we'll save it for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Anyhow, I'm pretty sure that's what has been worked
up, but it could also beScientology Secrets episodes,
because we're just figuring outall the things that they don't
want people to know.
We're just going to tell thosethings in specific videos and
we're going to call themScientology secrets.
One of the biggest Scientologysecrets is, if you leave
Scientology and you say anythingabout Scientology, they're

(34:59):
going to come after you andthey're going to send people.
You do business with lettersand send them silly pictures of
you passed out on HollywoodBoulevard.
Okay, so this is getting itsown episode, but we're going to
keep doing the billboards.
That's going to happen.
We're going to keep doing theScientology secrets episodes.
We're going to keep doing that.

(35:19):
We're going to keep fundraisingfor the aftermath and we're
going to still help people getout of Scientology.
We're still going to do allthat too, yep, and we're still
going to sell.
Where are they?
Where is he?
We're still going to do allthat too, yep, and we're still
going to sell.
Where are they?
Where is he?
We're still going to sell theselittle guys.
Fake Space, navy Davies,captain Chucklesworth, whatever
you want to call him, captainGiggle Giggle's not a lot.
We're going to keep doing allthat stuff.

(35:42):
And if you want to send letters.
Send letters, guys.
Like I said, if you take out myday job, which I mean anybody
by guys?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
you mean OSA?
Yeah, not our viewers.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
OSA.
If you guys want to keep doingthat, then keep doing it.
Most of the people I don't knowhow to explain this Most people
who know me, this is me.
This is the same mark you getwhen I come and do your job.
I don't talk about Scientology,but you know I'm I'm here to do

(36:16):
a job.
We're going to do an amazingjob.
We're going to get the job doneand you're going to be happy
with it and you're going to loveme and we're probably going to
go out to eat.
We're going to have some me andyou're going to then ask me
about the Scientology stuff andI'm going to tell you all about
it and I'm going to tell yousome crazy stories.

(36:37):
I'm going to give you a copy ofmy book and that's how my
clients end up knowing moreabout this without even OSAT
telling them.
Sometimes they Google.
You know, I don't know ifeverybody does this, but in my
case, when I show up, usuallysomebody there will have Googled
me and then they will tell mehey, I don't.

(36:58):
I know this is a little awkward.
It's always a little awkward.
They say I know this is alittle awkward, but you know, I
saw that you were.
You were on that TV show.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, so can I share the response that I send to most
people that email us about thisletter?
Sure, ok, thanks for forwarding.
Yes, I know what this is about.
Mark and I were both born intoScientology and escaped their
headquarters in 2005.
Since then, we've been speakingout as whistleblowers and

(37:29):
victim advocates, and we bothserve on a 501c3 nonprofit that
helps people get out ofScientology and start new lives.
For example, I testified as anexpert witness on Scientology in
the Danny Masterson trial inMay 2023.
You can learn more about ourwork here blownforgoodcom.
Scientology has had slanderoushate websites running about us

(37:53):
since 2010.
Mark and I appeared in threeseasons of Leah Remini
Scientology in the aftermath.
Needless to say, they don'tappreciate our work to expose
their abusive practices.
They've been sending similarletters to some of our clients,
glad to answer any questions youmay have.
Nice, that's a any questionsyou may have Nice.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
That's a perfect response, I think.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Okay, so that's what's happening Now.
It's news that obviously wehave hit a vein.
They're doing stuff again.
They never took down all thehate websites about me.
They're doing stuff again.
They never took down all thehate websites about me.
They never took down theiraccounts.
They have a lot of accounts onX that spread lies and they have
weird videos they post up thereand stuff like that.
They didn't stop any of that.
The fact that they're nowsending clients letters again

(38:47):
means that they're activelyattacking.
The other thing that they juststarted doing is the Stand
League has started some sort ofYouTube channels where they have
been posting shorts of thevideos that appear on the
Scientology hate websites, andthat started about a week or two

(39:07):
ago.
Somebody sent me a thing sayinghey, these new channels are
firing up and they're startingto run shorts, and that was the
other thing that we thought isthat we have hundreds of videos
where we've talked aboutScientology on the channel.
If you want to know aboutScientology, chances are we've
talked about the thing you wantto know about at least four or
five times.

(39:28):
We've covered a lot of thingsover and over again and just
different aspects of it or morestories about the same thing,
blah, blah, blah.
But we we never really doshorts and we never have really
done that.
And people are always tellingme why don't you do shorts?
Some of these things would makegreat shorts, and I'm like I
just don't have the time.
So we got somebody, um that'swe thought would be really good

(39:50):
at doing it and he's been doingshorts and he's been slaying it.
He's been, he's been puttingout, I think, like at least two
or three shorts every single daysince we sort of started
finding out about it.
And the shorts about lord xenuthat get a lot of views.
Tom cruise, those get a lot ofviews shelly miscavige shelly
miscavige.

(40:11):
So they're getting, they get,they get.
I mean they get.
Our views in the last month onour channel have more than
doubled yeah in the last month,yeah, and we're getting more
subscribers and we're gettingmore views and we're putting out
more videos, and claire and Iare really only doing it an hour
to a week, because we do avideo on Sunday and then
sometimes she does an interviewor two during the week, Unless

(40:34):
Osa pokes the nest, in whichcase here we are doing extra.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
We would be hanging out with our neighbors right now
trying to wind down after areally long week.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
But it is snowing.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
It is snowing here.
Might not be so we're gonna,we're fine.
That's another great reason Iwas like you know what?
It's snowing.
We can't do drinks in thedriveway, let's just hang out
with everybody on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, let's have an OSA talk.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
All right, so we're going to talk about the
additions, the new additions.
Yeah, so we showed interestingones here that you are
definitely going to have somecomments on.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, so we got a new list and now if there's an X
through it, then that means theywere on the previous list of
the 2023 letter and these arenew folks.
And if you guys, I don't knowif the same sleuths that were
here last time are still here orif there's new sleuths, feel

(41:30):
free to cross-check and see whatwe can find out about these
folks, because there are somevery interesting people on this
list that are now part of theSTAD League.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
And I would say just to add to that this is as much
about showing the world ingeneral who is putting their
names behind this vicious,slanderous, abusive practice of
fair game by Scientology.
It's also comedic beyond belief, as you will see, and also it's

(42:06):
just good to you know, find outand see who all is involved in
this, right, yeah, okay, so AlanErnst, glendale, california.
He's an electronics technician,ex-iowa farm boy, speaker of
truth, brother, scientologist.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, Okay, Now I got to just say we got to pay
attention to these little catch,these little titles that they
Seeker of truth.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I hate to break it to you, Alan.
You haven't found truth.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
But at least he's looking.
Keep seeking Still looking,there you go, but the best he's
a finder of truth.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
He's a seeker of truth.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Wasn't that other gal the champion of truth?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yes, she was a champion of truth.
Yeah, apparently truth is aWell, you got to, we'll see.
There's different levels.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
There's different levels.
She's a champion, he's just aseeker.
So I'm going to say seeker islike a swamper, like that's the
lowest rank.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's the lowest level.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I'm just looking for truth.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I'm not a champion yet, I'm just looking for it.
You know what, if we can'tlaugh about this nonsense, what
the heck can?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
we do Okay, so Alan Earns Okay next.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Jane Mitchell, monterey, california, manager,
grandmother, lie exposer,anti-drug volunteer,
scientologist.
There you go, Okay.
Next, nick Green Green, edison,new Jersey, graphic artist,
Musician, human rights advocate,inclusive person.
Well, you're in the wrong Pult,I hate to break it to you.

(43:39):
Scientologist Dr Dominic Cusano, chicago, illinois,
chiropractic doctor, racquetballplayer, anti-drug champion I
love that racquetball playermakes it on the list higher
Skateboarder.
Anti-drug champion andScientologist.
That's pretty hilarious.
Okay.
Barry Kaziar, clearwater,florida, okay, yeah, no brainer

(44:03):
there.
Entrepreneur, marketing guy,children's rights advocate,
father Scientologist NicoleWeldon, tujunga, california.
Tujunga is probably second toClearwater in terms of a hotbed
of Scientologists.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
No, I wouldn't say that.
There's just a lot that livethere, but not a hotbed.
Not a hotbed.
Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Property manager.
Spiritual counselor.
Great-grandmother,scientologist Kay Curtis,
burbank, california.
Educator, community tutor.
Spiritual counselor.
Great grandmother,scientologist k curtis, burbank,
california.
Educator, community tutor.
Dog, mom.
Human rights defender.
Scientologist jason effron,medford, new york.
Retail manager.
Father.
Human rights advocate,scientologist samara jimenez

(44:46):
edison, new jersey.
Administrator.
Wife crafter.
Truth, truth wanter.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I think it says truth .
Is it truth wanter or truthwarrior?

Speaker 2 (44:56):
It's truth wanter.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
No, it's give me that , give me that.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
That's what mine says , unless my glasses are really
blurry, which could be.
It says truth wanter.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
She's right, folks.
It says truth.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Truth wanter.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Once again, i'm'm sorry, but you're in the wrong
place.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, I know seriously you're gonna make this
up.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
That's why this is I'm gonna ridiculous, I'm gonna
go on a limb and say seeker is ahigher than a wanter.
He's.
She wants the truth, she wantsit, but he's not ready to seek
for it?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
yeah, he's at least looking for it.
She's uh, what do you call it?
Passive she wants it not, she'snot into doing.
Seek for it.
Yeah, he's at least looking forit.
She's a what do you call it?
Passive she wants it, she's notinto doing anything about it.
Just yet.
Dean Hassinger, lone Oak, texas, telecommunications technician,
father of three, scientologist.
Andrea Olivo, moorpark,california, chiropractor, mom,
stepmom, wife, gardener,director.

(45:46):
Mom, stepmom, wife, gardener,health enthusiast, scientologist
Wow.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Wait a minute.
Oh, I see she's a mom, butshe's also a stepmom.
Is that a?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
And also she's a wife .

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Is that a double duty , mom?

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
If you're a stepmom and you're just a regular mom.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, I mean yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Okay, I didn't know there was different levels of
mom.
Yeah, I mean yeah, okay.
Yeah, I didn't know there wasdifferent levels of mom.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
There's all kinds of yeah.
Steve Wagner, los Angeles,california, researcher, writer,
musician, human rights advocate,scientologist.
Oh and, by the way, we shouldmention if any of you new people
that we're reading out herehave since exited the cult of
Scientology, reach out to us.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, okay, now again , I'm on the second page now.
Okay, the ones that are crossedout are ones that are on the
original list.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
They're still there.
If you guys want to look themup or read them, you can still
clearly read it.
We didn't cross it out so youcouldn't read it.
We just crossed it out becausethey were on the old list.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I was just doing my Michael Scanling, Berkeley,
California, photographer, hikerhusband, super uncle, Is that
what that says?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
It does say super uncle.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Oh my God.
Ambassador of goodwill,scientologist.
Okay, well, there you have it,stephanie.
I hope it's doing it for you,michael.
Stephanie Stith, san Fernando,california, makeup artist,
actress, wife, concerned mother,scientologist.
You know what, if I was amother in Scientology, you have
every right to be concerned.

(47:19):
You should be watching out foryour children and protecting
them from the cult ofScientology.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I wonder if that's any relation to Shel Stith I
used to work with Shel Stith.
Maybe that might be herdaughter or sister, yep, well,
no, it couldn't be her sister,because they're all from.
They have a different last name.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, Anyway.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Stephanie Stith.
I bet you they're related toShel.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
We have plenty of people we can ask about that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, oh, that's the other thing.
We should say that we talk toScientologists all the time we
do.
They write in, they talk toScientologists all the time.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
We do.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
They write in, they talk to us, even people that are
.
They don't want any help orneed anything from the aftermath
.
They just want to tell us, theyjust want to give us hot skinny
on what's going on, and so theytell us things.
So sometimes when we get thesethings from Scientologists there
are, depending on where theylive and what circle they run in

(48:09):
we just say, hey, do you knowwho this person is?
They'll be like oh yeah, that'sblah, blah, blah.
And then they'll tell us allthe juicy gossip that that
person's like oh yeah, they gotin trouble for this the other
day and they had to do amends,and so it's easy.
Scientologists, if they're onething, they do keep track of
each other and they do gossipthe shit out of about each other
.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
That gossip the shit out of about each other.
That's one thing that happensin there.
Yep, all right, keep goingalong.
Angela shark, los angeles,california, real estate
professional, aunt, sister,prison counselor, scientologist.
Um.
Alexa alborzi, redwood city,california, orthodontist,
motorcyclist, mother,grandmother, freedom fighter,
scientologist.
You should fight for your ownfreedom if you want to be a

(48:55):
freedom fighter, just saying.
Sisu Rakin, studio City,california, educator, community
volunteer, mother, performingartist, scientologist Okay.
Kathleen Welch, burbank,california, veterinary hospital
CFO, mother, sister, wife, fooddrive volunteer, scientologist.
They are definitely gettingweaker on their titles, okay.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, well, there's a lot.
I mean they really.
I mean you could just say blah,blah, blah.
Mom, that's good enough, I knowyou don't have to go past that.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
So this is beyond faulty.
Carl Miller, glendale,california, business executive.
Professional speaker, cyclist,traveler, scientologist Kathy
Feshback.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Okay, let's just talk about Kathy.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Feshback for a second .
Yes, let's talk.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Okay, which one is she the mom of?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
She's Melissa and Jessica's mom.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Okay, we were.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I believe, yeah, yeah , no, for sure, claire was best
friends with her daughter.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
And best friends with her cousin.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
We were you actually at the wedding party, and let's
not skip over the.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Okay, no, no, no, we'll get to her daughter.
We'll get to her daughter.
We were at the wedding.
Both of us, two weddings of theFeshback daughters.
Yes, and we were friends withMelissa.
Melissa used to let me borrowher car at the international
headquarters because she was aFeshback kid.
Her parents, they had tons ofdough, they just bought her a
car and she was one of fewpeople who had a car.

(50:22):
Now, this is the craziest thing.
She could never drive the car.
She wasn't allowed to drive hercar for most of the years that
she was there.
And the reason that she wasn'tallowed to drive her car for
most of the years that she wasthere and the reason that she
wasn't allowed to drive the carClaire.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Because she escaped with said car.
She escaped from theheadquarters in Gilman Hot
Springs, california.
She drove out the gate and,ironically of all things though,
you know what she did.
It's actually sad.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah.
She drove herself to therehabilitation project course,
oh, in los angeles yeah, you gotto put your mic in there, I
know I know, oh, that was, thatwas fun yeah, I just I keep
having to move you over becauseyou're somehow you keep slipping
out of frame.
You just keep sliding more andmore out.
Okay, so we were very friendlywith the Feshbacks.

(51:09):
Yes, and also, like I said, youwere in the wedding party of
Katie Feshback.
Yep, I used to drive Melissa'scar all the time.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Katie was our roommate.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Oh, that's right, we were roommates with Katie
Feshback.
Yep, and I don't want to outthe guy, but remember the guy I
was telling the story about inthe video last week.
He was the one married to KatieFeshback.
Yep, and I don't want to outthe guy, but remember the guy I
was telling the story about inthe video last week.
He was the one married to KatieFeshback, the guy that had the
thoughts and the meeting aboutDavid Miscavige.
You got to go watch last site.
You got to watch thatScientology secrets episode
three.
If you want to watch that story, he was married to one of the

(51:46):
Feshback gals.
Okay, now, the reason Melissacould never drive her car is
because she tried to escape withher car, but then she
constantly was having thoughtsof leaving, so she could never
get okay to drive her car again,and that was the only reason
that I got to drive it all thetime.
So it's funny that her um, thatMelissa's mom and Katie's aunt,
kathy, is now on this list.

(52:07):
Yes, and we know all kinds of.
There's all kinds of fetch back.
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I'm going to say one crazy thing as long as we're
talking about the fetch backs,and then we'll keep going with
the list Okay.
But aren't the fetch backs theone where the dad and mom got a
divorce and the dad married thebabysitter?
So of one of the other families.
Yeah, like mom and a dad.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, so they had their.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Anyway, it doesn't matter, I'm just saying One of
the Theshbag.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
There's three brothers.
One of the brothers marriedsomebody who had a daughter
already from a prior marriage.
So, that became hisstepdaughter.
That stepdaughter became thebabysitter for one of the other
brothers, who was her step uncle.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
And then he married her.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
And then they had kids.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
So that's just a five seconds venture into the
Feshback family guys.
Okay.
So let's not get all excitedabout the project here, kathy.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Okay, keep going kathy now lives in clearwater,
florida.
She's a mom, philanthropic,fundraiser, religious freedom
fighter and guess what?
She's a scientologist.
Uh jill carmel, from sacramento, california, photographer,
gardener, wife, communityvolunteer, backpacker and
Scientologist.
Margie Maselli, los Angeles,california, singer, songwriter,

(53:38):
horseback rider, mom, drugprevention volunteer.
Scientologist.
Bob Ely Tujunga, california,claims adjuster, musician,
husband, truth disseminator.
Scientologist Samantha Elkin,los Angeles, california,
executive guitarist, mother,athlete.

(54:00):
She's also a truth seeker folks.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Is there another page ?
Because that's the last page.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah, there's one more page.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Okay, I don't have another page, I'll just read the
ones.
There's not many on this page,most there's one more page.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Okay, I don't have another page.
Okay, well, I'll just read theones.
There's not many on this page.
Most of them are.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I wanted to see that.
Is that Ingrid, or the gal thatswitched names?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Oh no, where is she?
Oh, that's on this one.
Oh weird, okay, yeah, so NoelleRogers, who was previously
Ingrid Rogers, on the lastdocument.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
She is now Noelle Rogers, and she is also a
producer, actress, mother, wife,champion of truth.
The thing I wanted to say,though, guys, is if anybody out
there knows I think this womanis Noelle North, If somebody can
tell me or not if Noelle orIngrid Rogers is also Noel North
.
If you look up Noel NorthSubway Restaurant or Noel North

(55:00):
Anonymous Protest, there is awoman named Noel North, and if
you know a Noel Rogers and thisis the same person I'd love to
know get in the comments andbleepity bloop that, but I want
to say she is an OSA volunteerwho kicked a little girl, a
family, a little girl and herfamily out of a subway because

(55:22):
they were wearing masks duringan anonymous protest, and they
left the protest to go to getsome sandwiches at a nearby
subway.
And they left the protest to goto get some sandwiches at a
nearby subway, and Noel Northwent in there and had them
thrown out of the subway forsome reason.
I remember that If this is NoelNorth, I think I suspect that
Ingrid Rogers, who then morphedinto Noel Rogers, is actually

(55:44):
Noel North.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yep, all right.
So we're down to the last six,and there's some interesting
characters on this one.

(56:06):
So we volunteer Scientologist.
Timothy Baxter, pipe Stem, westVirginia CEO, father and
husband, philanthropist,criminal rehabilitation.
Volunteer Scientologist, herewe go.
Jim Meskimen, glendale,california writer, journalist,
first Amendment advocate,husband, father, scientologist.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah, so now Jim Meskimen is another one.
So Jim Meskimen is a comedian.
It doesn't say comedian on hereat all.
It doesn't say comedian.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
He's not funny anymore.
That's why.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
It says whoa shots fired.
Hey, wow, just stating thefacts.
Jim Meskimen Sorry about that,jim, I mean, I don't know, that
was harsh, I thought you werefunny Writer, journalist, First
Amendment advocate, husband,father, scientologist.
He is also an impressionist anda comedian of sorts.

(57:01):
I want to say they do likesketch or improv comedy, jim
Meskimen, and he was part of agroup called um.
Was it upright citizens or Idon't remember what?
They had a little group.
They were part of um him,christopher Smith, tate Rupert,
um Tamara Tamara or TamaraMeskimen, his wife, a whole

(57:27):
bunch of them.
Anyway, he is also um was madefamous by us in the very, I want
to say 2007,.
Maybe back in 2007, when wewere starting to.
We would have these things inthe early days.
We'd have these things calledSP parties.
We'd find any and allsuppressive persons we could

(57:47):
find we could get our hands onand we'd invite them to a party
and we'd start sharing notes andsee what was doing in different
places.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, because you know what we've learned about
SPs when they talk and comparenotes.
Boy, that is powerful.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
And Scientology hates that.
So we would have these things,we'd call them SP parties and
we'd invite all these peopletogether.
We would have these things,we'd call them SP parties and
we'd invite all these peopletogether.
And we were friends with a tonof Scientologists on Facebook at
the time.
Like Claire and I probably hadlike 100 friends each.
There were people that were inScientology and we were doing
all this stuff, but they didn'tknow who we were because I was

(58:24):
blown for good and so nobodyknew.
Mark Headley was also blown forgood.
Anyway, regardless, we werecausing a lot of problems and
Jim Meskimen was going throughour Facebook page and finding
every single person who was aScientologist and he'd send them
a message and say, hey, just soyou know, you get this guy,

(58:45):
mark Headley, up on your pagehere and he's a.
He's a not so good guy.
He wrote a book about it.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Notice, notice, he doesn't say Facebook police, I
know, but he said, but he saidin there.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
this is the best part .
He said he wrote a book aboutint and when he said that.
Telling you, this dude sold somany of my book to
Scientologists when he said hewrote a book about int, because
in Scientology they actuallycall the int base what do you
know what the nickname?
They call it Over the rainbow.
They call it over the rainbowbecause no one's ever been there

(59:16):
, no one knows what's there andthat's where the great, that's
where the great wizard lives ofin int, at the int base.
And so when he said he wrote abook about int, and all the
Scientologists he was sendingthis to were like, oh, I'm going
to disconnect, I'm going tounfriend him right away.
They'd unfriend me and thenthey'd buy a copy of my book and

(59:38):
then they'd message me on someother thing other than Facebook
and we'd get to chatting andthen we'd get him out of
Scientology.
So thank you, jim.
I appreciate that You've done alot of great work for our cause
and we would like to say thankyou yeah, for sure.
And more of the same.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
On that note, thanks, Osa.
You sold a ton of our bookswith this letter from yesterday
as well.
In fact, one of the people thatyou sent the letter to said hey
, didn't Mark write a book Iwould love to read that?
I said you know what?
I have a complimentary copy foryou right here and they're, and
they were like, oh, I'm gonnabe reading it this weekend.

(01:00:16):
So interesting, yeah.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Okay, that was jim meskimen is that the end, or
there's more?
There are two more oh, I don'thave any of these, so I just put
the main camera back two moreto read the read the last one
speaking about paris morphopolis?

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
no, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
On the first one he was not oh, you guys have got to
look up.
We've got to put a link toparis.
There's a paris morop, I don'tknow how to say morphopolis
morphopolis.
Um, he did a video.
I pronounced it right.
He did a good job, babe you.
I'll give you a sticker afterthis.
Um, this guy did a video withmark bunker.

(01:00:53):
We've got to find that video.
Put a link to it in thedescription.
He basically paris, is an osaoperative and has been for
decades.
Because he's an ot.
He, he knows about xenu and thebody things.
Have I ever mentioned what agreat band name that would be?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Anyway, he knows all about.
It's Friday night, folks.
I'm sorry.
As I mentioned, it's been along week and we were planning
to be here, but, osa, you madeus do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
He knows all about Zeno and the Body Thetans and he
knows they let him engage withcritics like he did with Mark
Bunker the Lisa McPherson days.
He did a lot of work.
He even when Mark Bunker was oncity council and Mark Bunker
Paris is on the Clearwater.

(01:01:41):
It's like some business he usedto be I don't know if they have
it still business developmentcommittee or you know some.
It's basically just a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
It's just a giant time suck, waste of time I have
to just say I'm gonna go backand read this chat, kb.
I'm happy to be in the truthgiver group and would love to be
a cat wrangler I'd love to be acat wrangler.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Wouldn't that be so funny if you, if somebody did
that.
Yes, sp.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Copy first SP, SP, SP lover, BFG supporter, committee
of evidence hater floatingneedle doubter Boom.
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Oh my God, I am just realizing that the chat has must
has.
They've, it looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
I know guys, we haven't been following the chat
very closely.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
It looks like the chat's gone out All this
nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
But you know, like I said, I'll go back and catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Looks like the chat's been very spicy tonight.
Looks like tons of fun.
Okay, are there any more?
Okay, there's one last one,paris.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Morphopolis, last of this cast of bandits.
Jeff Murphy, los Angeles,california, paralegal Researcher
, amateur amateur historian andScientologist.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
There you go.
Those are the additions, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Anyway, guys, if you know who any of these folks are,
or if you like just wastingyour time on the Internet
looking for people, or if you'vegot like a, you know that was
the other funny thing is thatcertain people in their work may
have access to certaindatabases, or you know,
scientology does this all thetime.
They go oh, you work at Verizon, oh, we've got some questions

(01:03:20):
for you, and then the next thing, you know, your phone's closed,
anyway, but they if somebodyworks at the post office or
somebody works at this place orworks at Wells Fargo or works at
, so they get info on people.
But in the chat and we've seenthis on our channel a ton of
times some of these peoplethey're paralegals or they're

(01:03:43):
private investigators or they'rewhatever they're in that world
and they can just look.
They have one of these NexusLexus people databases and they
just jam all these people intothat thing and we just get pages
and pages of reports.
So if you're one of those folks,if you're still out there, we
appreciate it when you do that.
And also, sometimes we find outthese people aren't exactly who

(01:04:07):
they say they are.
Or if you really find out whothey are, you're like, oh my God
, this is the guy that did this,or this is the guy that did
this.
You know, you've got to look atTony's blog.
There was one of these guys whoblew up a political office and
burned up a car dealership, andhe was a Scientologist, yep, and
his mom was like the executiveat the local.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Albuquerque Scientology organization.
Go read about it at theundergroundbunkercom.
But I did want to mention toothat.
So we talked about thesignatures and the names that
were on the first letter or oneof the earlier letter from 2023.
Yeah, and now the new letterfrom 2025.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
It's worth noting, they are, of course course, the
exact same signatures.
So again, if you were on thefirst list of signatures and
you've now left Scientology andwant to talk to us about this,
please do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Oh, you mean that the signatures they're just like a
digital thing.
So they just added a bunch morepeople we don't even know.
I mean, we would love to knowif you were on one of the old
list and you're not on thereanymore.
We would love to know, like didyou know about the letter?
Did they tell you about theletter?
Just do they just put your areyour names on all letters that
comes out from this place?

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
And also, did you even ever sign anything ever?

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Well, but also are there other people out there
who've gotten letters from theStanley?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Right, I've never seen one.
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I've never seen one of these letters.
Do the Stanley write letters toanybody else?
Does anybody have a copy of aStanley letter that you got or
somebody got for somebody else?
Is it right?
Are we the only people who getletters?
I mean, I don't know what'sgoing on here, guys.
I don't need these guys.
The only people who get letters.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I mean I don't know what's going on here.
Guys, I don't.
These guys, to be honest, it Imean as much as it.
So we are the intended audienceof this letter.
They're intending to to screwwith us yes, 100 and mess with
us.
But but the way that we take itbecause we've been speaking out
about scientology for a whilewe just take it as a pat on the
back like, hey, good job, keepgoing remember Do more.
Thus we're here on Friday night.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Remember when I said we get that warm fuzzy feeling.
We don't always hear frompeople all the time.
Sometimes the aftermath we helppeople through the aftermath
and then sometimes people writeinto the channel or we also have
the podcast.
We get all these peoplelistening to the podcast.
I think we're up to like 10,000downloads a week on the podcast
, which is amazing it's.
I mean, 10,000 people is 10,000people, but every once in a

(01:06:38):
while we find out one of thesepeople is a Scientologist.
They write in.
They say you know what?
I've been listening to yourpodcast for like two years and,
um, I'm, I love Scientology.
I was like this can't be this.
I mean, guys, we were there for15 years at the headquarters.
We can tell you stories for 15years.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Something happened every day, but technically we
did the math on this one timebecause of the hours we work.
Oh yeah, we have 30 years ofstories, Because you know.
That's right, and we also wereonly 15 years of stories would
be premised on eight hours ofhours a day, right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
You know, and also there was so many crazy things
happening all the time that alot of times we'll talk to
somebody from there and thenthey'll remind us of a whole
like 10 other things thathappened that we just totally
forgot about because justeverything was insane.
So it's hard to when evensometimes we're telling people
about something, they go whyhave we ever talked about this?
And like it was like a tuesday,it's happened like once a month

(01:07:37):
for like eight years in a monthit's a little brain dead.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
The brain tissues are still recovering from all that
nonsense, so my bad anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
So the other thing I wanted to say is because a lot
of people write and they say I'mreally sorry they do this to
you and I'm really sorry this.
They put out the hate videosand all that.
You can't worry.
I mean, let's, let's.
There's billions of people onthe planet.
Why would what?
Why would you want to worryyourself and be thinking about

(01:08:08):
what?
Like a couple hundred thing.
Who cares?
It's a couple hundred people,right.
In the overall scheme of things, no one cares what those
hundred people think.
No one cares the.
But there's people that arebeing hurt, thousands of people
that are being abused, andthey're working for no money and
doing all this other stuff.
So david miscavige can livelike a king and they're just.

(01:08:31):
It's horrible.
If you worked at the placewhere we worked, it's miserable.
It's it literally.
People have ended themselvesbecause they couldn't leave that
place.
It's happened many times yeah soif we can help those people get
out, that'd be great.
That they talk shit about us onthe internet, it's kind of like
okay, that means we're doingour jobs, that means we're
getting the work done.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
And also it accomplishes two things in my
mind that they are completelyoblivious of Number one if they
are the fastest growing religionin the world, and blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Millions of members.
How on?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
earth.
Do they have time to send aletter about Mark and I who left
20 years ago?

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Seriously, that's right, this is our 20-year
anniversary 20 years we haven'tbeen there and they're talking
shit about us to our clients,about a picture that also was
from 20 years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
And guess what?
Not only are they showing howthey use their tax exempt
dollars, but also they'reshowing everybody that they send
these letters to exactly howmuch of a cult they are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Yeah, and also that they do exactly what we say they
do.
Correct, we've been sayingexactly this is what they do.
They jack with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
They try to destroy your lives.
Yeah, right here, folks, as ofApril 17th 2025.
Is there a?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Masterson on there.
Wait, is Walter Mastersonrelated in any way to Danny
Masterson?
Serious question.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Oh, I don't think there's a Walter Masterson.
There's a Walter, but I thinkit's a different last name.
We'll take a look closer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Either way, we put them up there.
But that's what we want to know.
We want to know what you guysthink.
Who are these people?
What are their deals?
Anybody got any hot skinny onthese folks?
If you get us some hot skinnyand it's worth talking about,
we'll do another video.
We'll say, hey, we got anupdate on Blippity Blooper.
We got Ingrid Rogers NoelRogers Noel North gal is the one

(01:10:35):
you thought it was and let'stalk about her and maybe we'll
put the link to the Subway videoand all that happy hula.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I love Linda P Golan's comment.
She says we need a contest Bestself-description.
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
People are going to now start writing in the chat.
You know, like Betsy, sue,mother, sister, brother, aunt,
uncle, everybody's just going tolist everything they can
possibly list Truth digger.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Don't be a seeker, be a digger.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Truth duster offer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Truth, reinventer Truth fluffer Truth.
Offer Truth Reinventor, truthFluffer, truth Definer.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Yeah, they've already .
Claire says, we've been doingthat.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Oh nice.
Hey, thanks for the beard loveLonger.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
look beard marks.
Beard is tremendous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, so let's do a few comments and then we'll do
our giveaway.
And while you pull that up,shout out to Clara and Catherine
, our amazing mods.
Thanks to everyone joining usthis fine Friday night for our
OSA Scientology Secrets update.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Scientology Exposed.
We need a contest.
Best self-description.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
There we go.
That would be pretty epic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
That's the comment Clara was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Okay, Okay, love it, love it.
Singer, songwriter, musician,cat owner, coffee drinker, bakes
bread.
Loves it, love it.
Oh my gosh, all right, sudi.
What's a human rights activistand a child activist doing in
that cult?
Exactly not any of that, that'syes, sure, this is guys.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
This is.
This is a perfect example ofthe bubble these guys are in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Completely, it's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Yeah, you got child activists in there and it's like
, hey, what about the kids inthe C organization down at the
place where you go every night?

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Yeah, it's that are 14 years old.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
They're working 120 hours a week and pulling all
nighters.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
They're 14 years old.
They're working 120 hours aweek and pulling all-nighters,
right, miss Child Activist?
Let me tell you what it's liketo grow up in the cadet
organization.
You are not going to want tohear any of it, believe you me.
All right, love it Backpacker.
What On your Sunday morning,few hours off.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Seriously, oh my God, jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Moorhead in the house .

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Hey, you too, hey, hey hey, hey, jackson Haggis,
basher F Sainto, they do realizethat makes them complicit in
defamation.
Yes, completely.
I think Melanie Johnson Some ofthose titles seem kind of
contradictory.
Human rights advocate whileyou're trafficking humans?

(01:13:15):
Yeah, exactly, completely.
That's the bubble 420 auditsIreland.
She escaped in a car and droveto another Scientology building.
She did, I know it's very sad.
That's Melissa Feshback.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Because and the reason why is because her
parents were in Scientology.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
So she was so desperate to get off that
property that she literally justescaped.
She basically, if you escapefrom the international
headquarters, there is an L RonHubbard thing that says you have
to get declared and suppress aperson, and the lesser evil of
that is that you just go to thereligious uh, the rehabilitation
project for.
So if you're in the c-org, ifyou, if the the, if you don't
get declared a suppressiveperson, the only, usually the

(01:14:00):
only other possible route isthat you go to this
reprogramming camp for many,many years and then maybe you
can go back into the c-org afterthat's over and be a regular
c-org member again.
And so when she left becauseher entire family is in
Scientology, she knew that ifshe got declared she would never
see her family again.
So she drove to the locationwhere the Rehabilitation Project

(01:14:23):
Force was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
And said I just want to do this, I'm going here.
And then guess what?
Here's the kicker.
They didn't let her do theRehabilitation Project Force.
They made her go back to theproperty, which is the thing she
didn't want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Yeah, and the other kicker is the other reason she
wanted to go to theRehabilitation Project Force in
Los Angeles is because herhusband was there.
She was like 19 at the time.
They'd been married for twoyears, of which you don't
remember this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Which husband nathaniel oh, that's right,
because he got assigned to layes, so it was at the end base.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
They get transferred to la yes, so she, it was 19,
had been married for like twoyears and had been with her
husband for maybe two months andcouldn't even see him ever.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
She was mel Melissa Epstein.
Was it Melissa Epstein?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
She was married to Nathaniel.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yes, that's right.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
I totally forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
I think they ended up getting a divorce though.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
And then she was still at the property and he was
still in LA.
Yeah, I think he's still in LosAngeles to this day.
Probably I think somebody tooka picture and they saw him in
one, anyway.
Okay, let's keep going, mitch.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Mitch, I always suspected Mark couldn't hold his
booze.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Okay, Just just for the record.
Okay, Mitch, Mitch, we'll do adrink off.
Next time we're together.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Next time We'll do, we'll go rum and Coke to rum and
Coke.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
And so we'll see Jeez , wheeze, monkey cheese.
Um, okay, here we go, okayharvey denton.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
I love how they always use the anti-religious
bigot line.
They really have nothing else.
Exactly that's what I said.
I know I'm like, wow, reallyyou osa sucks, sucks to suck,
mitch brisker.
Except the anti-defamationleague stands up for lgbtqia and
human rights abuses in general.

(01:16:14):
They should be ashamed to evenmention the ADL Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Did they mention the ADL in there?

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
I'm not sure.
I have to look into it, okay,keep going KJE11.
And what about the continuedcover-up of various essay
charges committed by Seargemembers?
Karma will come.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Oh yeah, and the whole Danny Masterson thing,
right, and it's just like comeon guys.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Yeah, I know, literally Fuck buddy.
Dm is envious of Claire'sheight.
He wishes he was tall enoughfor the adult rides at
Disneyland.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
It's true, Guys, he's definitely a.
He's definitely a.
This is a small world right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
It's a small, small world.
Trisha Cowden.
I'm looking at the timing.
Is it possible they are payingmore attention since Mike
Rinder's death?
It is very possible.
Yeah, melanie Johnson questionDo they get capes to go along
with these titles?
Yeah, exactly, seriously, Imight.

(01:17:16):
Actually, my working theory isthat these people are they sign
a thing that they that saysthey'll contribute to these
letters as part of a liabilityformula, and this is them making
amends to get back into goodstanding as Scientologists for
thinking about leaving said cult.
That's my theory.
Gretchen Philly.
Thanks for the super sticker.
Agt Mom question.

(01:17:39):
Did you say more billboards aregoing up?
Stay tuned.
Tune in tomorrow We'll betalking a lot about this.
Lots more to come.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
We're doing a fundraiser for the aftermath
tomorrow.
We want to get as many peopleon there as possible and we're
going to have some specialguests which you guys if you
guys have been watching thechannel or if you watched any of
our older videos, you'll know alot of these special guests.
But we're going to have.
I think we've got like three orfour people lined up right now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Right, At least that we're going to have on for
little like segments, yeah, andit will be a dedicated hour of
foundation news updates.
That is 100 a fundraiser, whichmeans that, um, all the funds,
youtube covers the fees, and allthe funds go directly to
support the michael j rinderaftermath foundation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
yeah, there you go it's going to be awesome yep, uh
longer, look killer.
Youtube commenter yeah, thatwas his title that he was going
to put oh there we go, killerYouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
They're still doing that.
I love it.
They're still going, it hasn'tstopped at all.
Power lies to paralyze JoeSiento.
Tide Shoelace, advocate, randomLitter, picker, upper or
Creator, ball Thrower, cat Dad,scientologist I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Small amount of saliva routine swallower.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
If we do do a contest , then it should be like all the
titles and it should end withnot a Scientologist, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Okay, here's one more .

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
All right, xenoite Cat Wrangler, seeker of Carbs
and Pizza Form, warrior of Blownfor Good Watcher.
Nice, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
That's the best okay, let's see if there's anything
else dr x is here oh, there's drx is the fake navy davy slosh
in mark's background inreference to mark's photo they
sent out with the letter yeah, Iguess he, one of those dudes,
took a hit.
He definitely wiped out.

(01:19:32):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't noticethat the cat.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
The cat might have been in here, messing with him.
Oh, let's see chain reaction.
Yeah, it is.
Oh, they're all gonna.
Now the whole cluster isfalling apart now, oh, jesus oh,
no, oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Oh no, oh no.
Okay, get back.
These guys are unruly back here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
All right, there you go.
Okay, here we go.
Clara says Mark casuallydestroying the set.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Exactly, hey Dr X.
Thanks, yeah, oh, my goodness,look at this, see hot skinny
coming fast.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Catherine Nathaniel Epstein was last married to kate
krieger.
Yeah, back in.
What was that like?
2006 mark?
And I made a list of all thedivorces in the c organization.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Oh my god, it's crazy it was like it was hundreds of
divorces, yeah, hundreds, at aplace that only had like 450 to
600 people kind of back it.
Well, maybe 800 people at itspeak, peak peak, there's 800
people, but there were hundredsand hundreds of divorces between
people there was.
There was gals there that weremarried.
I want to say six or seven, sixor seven, yeah, and in a cult

(01:20:48):
that professes to have thetechnology to save any
relationship yeah, that's theone that's like master of
relationship, wife number five Iknow, seriously ridiculous um.
Dr epps is getting a lot oflove in the comments here hey,

(01:21:09):
awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Hope everyone had a great good fr Friday.
Awesome KB.
Hey, dr X, nice Catherine.
Hi Dr X Dr X.
Our love to Dr Paul Dr X.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Yes, oh my God, I stumbled onto this guy.
Somebody sent me a link.
I haven't been on the.
There's a discord thing wherethey talk about Scientology.
I had been on there forever andI went on there and there's,
like I want to say, hundreds andhundreds of pictures of the
fake navy, davy and the mikerender bobblehead just
everywhere, like in 50 differentairports yeah monuments.

(01:21:45):
I think some of them are ai,but a lot of them.
You can see the person holdingit in the picture.
Yeah, but um, there's like thatwas from, but there's like a
gazillions of pictures of thebobbleheads and the fake Navy
Davies adventuring around inplaces.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Yeah, I love this one .
Jill says bumper sticker.
My other car is a Z newspaceship.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Yeah, that's a good one.
I like that, I like that.
We do, I'm trying to get.
I'm trying to get some new Igot, we did.
We put the aftermath umstickers.
No, no, the bumper stickers.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Yeah, I know we're going to talk about that
tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Anyway, you can get aftermath bumper stickers now.
Um, but we're going to try toget some.
Um, uh, we're going to try toget some.
Xenu is my homeboy.
Hail Xenu.
What would Xenu do?
Xenu and the Body Thetans.
Have I ever mentioned what anamazing band name that would be?
We could get a little Xenu andthe Body Thetans.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
You're making me feel like I'm in Groundhog Day, like
a band.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Just make merch for this band that doesn't exist.
We could have concert dates andeverything.
It would be amazing, anyway.
So we're going to do some newZinu stuff and we we do have the
bumper stickers figured out.
It took me a bit, but we wereable to figure out how to do it.
They do have stickers.
Oh, the dogs just showed up.
We literally the dog just burstinto the studio and and, um,

(01:23:09):
hey, how are you guys doing so?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
excited going outside .
Put the camera on you while Ihere.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
I'll go to the way.
Go to the.
Oh, they missed him.
I went.
Go bring it back in here so theguys can see what the dogs look
like.
Here we go, bella.
I'll put it on the backgroundthing so you can see it.
That's Bella, she's a Germansecond.
Hey, max, come on, come here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
She's getting all excited.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
All right, and this is Max.
He's a mutt, max, you boy.
Okay, out Go.
Oh, my God, the dogs came inthe stream.
That's the first time that'shappened.
I think the cats have brokeninto the stream, but Max knows
how to open doors, so there'snot really.
If it has a yeah, if it has aflat handle, he can open it and

(01:24:02):
close it and any door in thehouse he wants.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
So it's dinner time.
I'm probably the kids oh yeah,claire's here.
The dogs are starving.
Okay, what were we?

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
doing oh here, there you go.
Claire's here, the dogs arestarving.
Okay, what were we doing?
Oh, here we go.
Recast Tom Cruise in Edge ofTomorrow with Mark.
That's just because I keepsaying the same thing, okay,
crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Cozy.
I'm reading Crazy Cozy, canthey manipulate phones?
Yes, they have, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Yeah, yes, they have cloned people.
That has happened.
Phones have been cloned,tracked, traced, intercepted.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
When we were living in LA, we would get letters.
It happened at least three orfour times where we would get a
letter from the phone companysaying, as you requested, we
mailed a copy of your phonerecords.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Yes, and we never got a copy of them, no, nor did we
request a record of the phonerecords.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
So, then that's when we started researching if
witness protection was an option.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
And, to be fair, in one of the spy files, in one of
the first or something I don'tremember what order it was in,
but in one of the spy fileswe'll find it.
We'll put a link in thedescription.
They had all my phone recordsfor months and months and months
and they had the detail of thecall and what was talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
And they also had copies of every fax that we had
sent too, remember, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
They were intercepting our faxes somehow,
Anyway.
So yes, all kinds of nonsense.
Glad I was here for the Maxbreak-in.
My cat also opens doors byjumping up to the handle there
you go Exactly, yes.
I love how they both just camein.
We pet them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Okay, all right, we got food no we'll get some food
later.
They were waiting for uspatiently outside the door until
Max got impatient for dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Okay, it says when are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
when are you doing going claire, merch?
Oh yeah, that's a good point,yeah we never thought about that
we never thought about thatdon't you, don't you have?
oh, it's claire bear claire bearyeah, we have claire bear merch
, though I think I have tore-add the hoodie that I was
wearing the other day.
There's claire bear tumblr, um,but yeah, we'll get on that
great idea.
I love it.

(01:26:12):
Okay, um, okay, do you guysstill meet up with leah remedy
to work on getting people out ofscientology?
Absolutely, she's an amazingperson.
Um, and yes, buttons.
Do you think any of thecelebrities that are a part of
scientology will ever leave thechurch?
Well, le Leah did, and othershave, jason Begay did.

(01:26:34):
So yeah, there's it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
It's always possible, and also the more stuff that
comes out and the more peoplethat learn about Scientology the
kind of more uncool it is to bein Scientology, obviously
because they're you know it's alittle wild over there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
There's been some high profile people that have
left recently.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll announceit in their own time, but we,
we were there for them.
So there you go.
Yay, uh, clara at love it.
Yep.
The foundation news and updatesstream is still on for tomorrow
, 3.00 PM, mountain standardtime.
Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Yes, oh, here's one last one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Okay, shannon Graves, coming soon to Red Rocks, zeno
and the Body, thanes.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
That's true.
That's totally the firstconcert t-shirt I'm going to do
is I'm going to do a Red Rocksone there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
That would be amazing , great idea, awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Okay, should we do the thing?

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Yeah, let's do the draw and then we'll let
everybody get back to this fineFriday night and we'll see
everybody tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
I have to figure out how to do this.
I did it.
Oh, there we go.
There it is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Okay, draw.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Oh yeah, I got to go up to the screen to do that part
.
Okay, here we go, and we've gota one, oh one, that's the
number of entries.
Good job.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Oh, you know what I might have to refresh that I
might have to refresh that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Hold on.
I don't know if I refreshed it,will it go?
Everybody away.
Oh, I had to do it here, oh no,oh boy.
Oh yeah, I did it, I got it.
I boofed the doof on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
This thing is challenging.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Oh no, it did it, it went away, see only 28.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Oh what?
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Really that's a bummer.
Okay, quick comment, we'll do afew more questions.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
I'm going to do 28.
We'll do two, we'll do a bunch.
Screw it, we'll do a bunch.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
It's Friday.
Comment if you'd like to beincluded.
We're sorry, guys.
We had technical difficulties.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Jess Wilco.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Activate PT's activate.
Congratulations, jess.
Send me an email, claire, atblownforgoodcom, with a link to
what you would like from eitherthe VFG merch store or the SP
shop merch store and I will getthat off to you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Awesome.
Oh, it's already gone up.
Oh, the entries are going crazynow.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Here we go.
Okay, good, so let's just do afew more comments.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Oh okay, crazy now, here we go.
Okay, good, so let's just do afew more comments, oh okay, yeah
, we'll do another one thenwe'll do a few comments and
we'll do another one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Sorry guys, sorry everyone who accidentally got
boofed out of the.
This makes up for the last it'sjust one comment la barba there
you go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Congratulations who they really.
That was a lot of confetti.
Was that more confetti than thelast one?
I don't know, dream yard, Ithink.
I think you were a littleskimpy on the confetti on the
last gal.
You went all dump, dump two orthree loads on Jessica here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Yes, All right, Jessica, shoot me an email
claireatblownforgoodcom with alink to what you'd like and
congratulations on winning andthank you for participating.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
To be fair, I must say I have to admit this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
I do get unclear about doing so many giveaways.
So the fact that we're doingmultiple giveaways, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
that's why I was like wow, you're like tricker, happy
over here it's Friday, it'sFriday.
We really did have a great week, guys.
When Scientology gets going, itis shitty.
I can't not say it's not shitty, yep, because then it's just
another weird awkwardconversation I have to have with
a vendor or a client.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Which is mostly me yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
But I did get.
Oh, I don't know if I said that, so you got the email.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Yeah, but then I got another email.
Did we say that?
No, we didn't.
Okay so it's at least two so.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Claire got an email and then I got an email.
I got to tell you guys this Igot an email from a very like a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
It's a big client if he, if he said the name, you
would absolutely know it withoutoh 100.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Every single person knows this company.
That's there's not.
It's not possible that you'rewatching this and you don't know
this company.
It's impossible.
Yep, and if you guys want to belike super investigators, you
can go to my company.
Super investigators, you can goto my company's website and you
can look it up.
It's not hard to figure outwhat my company is and what my
website is and then go look atthe companies that I do work for

(01:30:42):
.
But I got an email from thatcompany and they were like what
the hell?
And they know me and they also,I think, they've read the book.
I think that person that theysent the letter to has read my
book.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Yes, they have.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
And that person knows the whole story.
And I actually had dinner withthis person while we were at the
site doing the job and we wereat a restaurant for like an hour
or two and she was asking meall kinds of stuff and she'd
also seen the show.
And so I mean she was asking meall kinds of stuff, yeah, and
she'd also seen the show, yep,and so I mean, guys, it's kind
of crazy that that's the onethat got that.

(01:31:20):
No, and this is the.
Also.
The other crazy part is thisperson is the public relations
person for the company that'stheir job yeah, and that's their
job is to be the publicrelations person for the company
where we did the work but alsohold on.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
There's a part that I wanted to mention, so this list
has been on your website for awhile.
Yeah, so now two years later,on a Thursday, they decide oh,
let's pick it up and send somemore emails.
Yeah, really.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Yeah, they sent the emails at Thursday before two
o'clock as well.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
That was my theory, but one of them was sent at 3 40
PM Pacific time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
It's probably false reported in their stats, that's
true, or they could be justgetting going for next week.
That's early.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
True, and that's that never happened.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
I know it's like Thursday two o'clock.
That whole afternoon is like.
Catherine will agree with me.
That's not a thing.
Nobody is hustling at 2 0, 5 pmfor next week's staff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
That just doesn't happen.
Come on, this was 349, babe.
I know, I know, but I was like,oh, I got it, they had to they.
They decided to dust off thehandling and pick up and send up
.
Send out some more emails.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
I forgot to say this, and code monkey just mentioned
this.
Yeah, um.
Then I put Catherine's commentJV probably yelled at someone to
do it.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, they can't do like whenDave says you guys got to do
this and you got to do that, andthen they do it, and that
happened in 2023.
Yeah, they can't do it.
I mean they could do it again,randomly, I guess, but they

(01:32:51):
wouldn't unless he said hey, weneed to send whatever.
Whoever you guys sent thatletter to before, that didn't
make any difference.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Go through their website again and see if there's
somebody else the same letter,cause that makes total.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Well, that last letter was probably the approved
letter, and so it was theapproved letter.
So they want to change it butthey did that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
No, no, no, it was so ineffective.
You need to send more.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
They added two paragraphs.
That has to get approved.
You can't just be adding twoparagraphs willy-nilly.
And they also added a bunch ofanother bunch of super moms and
super uncles and freaking wondertwins and great grandmothers,
and speakers of truth andchampions of truth.
Yeah, champions of truth, yeah,anyway, the truth would change.

(01:33:35):
So think about that, guys.
You're the head of a cultthat's got millions and millions
of people, but you give thedollars and billions.
They do have the billions ofdollars part.
They do, they don't havemillions of members, but they
got some billions of dollars.
But just pretend you gotbillions of dollars and there's
two people on the internet, onYouTube, talking shit about you.

(01:33:55):
If you've got millions andmillions of members, what do you
care about?
Two people on the interwebstalking about you?
But if you got 20,000 peopleand we get easily 20,000 views a
week on the channel channel andthere's a whole bunch of those
that are scientologists, yep,then now we got a problem.

(01:34:18):
There's no way this happens, noway osa can do stuff without
david muscavige either orderingthat they do it, telling
somebody to tell them to do it,or telling somebody else to do
it, and then they use osa to doit.
There's no way this happenswithout david muscavige fake
navy davy himself ordering it orhaving some involvement in it,

(01:34:39):
and 100 he's getting updated.
We sent this letter to theseguys.
We sent this letter to theseguys and then they did a video
about it and here's the videoand they admitted to this and
they admitted to that and theysaid this and now we have this.
This is all happening right now.
Guys, somebody at osa iswatching this video and keeping

(01:35:02):
notes you can get out is crazytime, guys.
This is.
This is basically an osa op inreal time.
You're you're listening to metell you exactly what's
happening this is what they didyesterday this is april 17th.
It's april 18th.
We're gonna do and this is alsoright before we've got this big
aftermath fundraiser onsaturday.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
We've got some amazing, huge announcement
coming on monday yes, we have um, yeah, and we all.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
I really wish we could tell you guys some of the
things that we have been workingon, but.
I'm going going for the singlefor this one.
Listen, guys, we have betweennow, let's say, 2025 and 2027.
We have so many amazing thingsthat are happening and
Scientology thinks they knowwhat's going on and they have no

(01:35:58):
idea what's going on.
And the amount ofScientologists that we're
talking to, the amount of peoplethat we're helping get out the
things that are going on behindthe scenes, the things that are
being worked on projects thatare going behind the scenes, the
things that are being worked onprojects that are going, are
going to be amazing.
And if you want to know aboutthose things, hit the bell

(01:36:20):
notification and subscribe downbelow.
Okay, let's do another giveaway.
You ready?

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Okay, we're going to go back up to this guy.
It always does that, and then Ialways have to do that, and
then we're going to draw again.
I'm not touching any buttons,I'm just going to say draw again
.
And it's drawing again.
Robert, they threw you right inthere, dr x, I'll see.
You can see a lot, catherinenice oh whoa jeff almost got
longer look longer look, therewe go awesome commenter tonight

(01:36:49):
congratulations longer.
Look, he got it.
I mean, we didn't do threegiveaways and there were more
than 100 between all three, so Ithink I unboofed the boof.
Anyway, look at Clara over here.
I got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Killer YouTube commenter.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Congratulations Longer.
Look.
Send me an emailclarablombergcom with the item
of your choosing, and I will getthat sent to you.
Send me an emailclaireatblownforgoodcom with the
item of your choosing, and Iwill get that sent to you.
Clara, spill the tea, mark,it's just us.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
You're 277 closest YouTube friends.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Yeah, we're actually up to 399.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Well, that's how many comments, I think there are no.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
that's viewers right now.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Oh you're right.
Oh yeah, live viewers.
Oh you're right, because wealso see Twitter and Facebook
and Twitch.
That's true, I didn't thinkabout that.
I never, I never could figureout why that was always more
than YouTube, because it'severything.
Yeah, yeah, there's 120 peoplewatching on X right now as well,
just so you know.
Hey guys watching on X, that'swhere I do watch a ton of videos

(01:37:46):
.
I watch a ton of videos onYouTube too.
Yeah, okay, yes, claire, okay,good, okay, what time tomorrow?
It's 3 pm Mountain StandardTime.
You guys got to do the math.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
2 pm Pacific Time, it is 4 pm Central Time, 5 pm
Eastern, and that's what I gotfor right now on tap.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
So Code Monkey says more people watching now than at
the end base.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Yeah, we have exactly yeah, we literally have 400
people watching, right now,that's great, awesome.
If you look at the live screenwhich is up, I'll tell you in
your time zone it'll tell you ohyeah, it'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Oh yeah, you're right , we'll put a we'll put a link
on.
Youtube and if you go to thatlink it will tell you what time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
Yeah, and then you can also just subscribe and hit
the bell notification icon.
The other thing is we want todo thanks, sarah.
We also want to do a thingwhere we're trying to get as
many people to subscribe to theAftermath channel, because if
the Aftermath channel can get,is it?
2,000 10,000 subscribers, um,then they can do a fundraiser

(01:38:54):
and then we can all just link tothe aftermaths fund fundraiser.
We can still the.
The aftermath is set up as anon-profit on youtube, so even
when we do a fundraiser on ourchannel or on amy scoby's
channel or any of the otherchannels that are part of this,
we we actually set up thiscoming the the fundraiser for

(01:39:14):
tomorrow so that any channelthat wants to support it can.
Yes, that's exactly correct.
Any channel can support thefundraiser that we're doing and
and all of the proceeds for thedonations for the fundraiser go
to the aftermath foundation.
None of the people in theaftermath take a salary.
None of the board members thatare part of the board of the
aftermath um take a salary.
Uh, none of the board members,um that are a part of the board

(01:39:35):
of the Michael J Rinderaftermath foundation.
None of us, uh, take a salaryto work on the aftermath.
So the amount of money thatgoes towards um helping people
get out and helping people getback on their feet it's like
99.9% of the goes to that.
Yep, um, okay, great, anythingelse Do we do, do we?

(01:39:55):
We did it all right, we did it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
We did the stuff we got you up to speed on all the
nonsense for the week andtomorrow will be fun filled,
action packed hour of foundationnews updates.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
It will be.
And, guys, guess what?
Thanks for tuning in, thanksfor watching, thanks for
listening.
If you're listening on thepodcast, we're not going to stop
doing what we're doing.
Scientology is just going toeither have to stop messing with
people or just let people go,or whatever.
But if they keep doing hatewebsites and they keep sending
letters and they keep puttingout nonsense, we're going to

(01:40:28):
keep doing this, and we're your,we're your Batman Joker.
That's how it's going to keepdoing this, and we're your,
we're your Batman Joker.
That's how it's going to be.
If you want to, if, if there'sno Joker, there's no Batman.
If there's no Batman, there'sno Joker.
But as long as you're there,we're still going to do it, and
so so long as there's peoplebeing abused, we're we're here
for it.
Yeah, to expose and talk aboutit, and all you have to do is

(01:40:48):
stop.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Yeah, we don expose and talk about it, and all you
have to do is stop.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Oh, we don't.
We don't know how many thingsyou have to do to know that we,
you, whatever you're doing, itain't working.
You got to do somethingdifferent.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Anyway guys yeah, it's all good guys, we will see
you.
I got to push buttons.
See you tomorrow.
Until next time.
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