Unveiling Scientology's Lies: Internet Censorship, Member Defiance, and Unwavering Support for Escapees - Scientology Q&A #29 - Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey guys, welcome to the channel.
We got Claire here, we've gotme here.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello everybody, if I look a little red, that's
because we went on a vacationand I'm a little red.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I look a little red.
That's because we went on avacation and I'm a little red.
I got a little color, so it'snot.
You don't try to fix your video, don't try to adjust your dial.
That's, that's the way I look.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
And if I look a little white, it's because I am
white.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yes, we try to keep Claire out of the sun.
As a ginger, she willspontaneously combust if we let
her into the sun.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Here we go again.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
As all day walkers have a propensity to do and yeah
, so that's also why you guyshaven't seen a lot of us is
because we've been out doingsummer stuff with the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yep, and even this next week we're going to be out
doing work stuff for thefoundation, so our schedule has
been incredibly challenging.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Sorry, people blog, the Mike Rinder's blog, there is
a post, there's a link in thedescription and Christy explains

(01:29):
exactly what's going on withMike and why he hasn't been on.
You know, been out and about onYouTube and answering your
questions and all that othergood stuff and we're we're
rooting for him, so hopefully,we are, we're team mike all the
way exactly.
Um what else do we got?

(01:49):
We've got um, oh claire's gotanother.
Um where's shelly.
Another where's shelly interviewcame out this last week, and
that one was with amy right yes,with amy scoby and, and on
Tuesday Claire's got anotherWhere's Shelley interview coming
out, and that one is with Leahand that will be coming out

(02:10):
Tuesday.
I think it comes out Tuesdaymorning.
If you, if you set your, ifyou're subscribed, and you turn
click the bell notification icon, then you will be notified as
soon as that goes live and thenyou can tune in and watch that.
And then we actually have aspecial video project that we're

(02:32):
working on right now.
That's going to come out.
I'm going to say it's going tocome out at the end of June,
maybe early July, but we areshooting, we're producing a
video right now.
We are shooting, uh, we'reproducing a video right now.
And, um, I want to say we'reprobably, uh, we're in the,
we're well in the middle of thevideo.
Um, we do need some extra shotsand I tried to shoot some of

(02:59):
these shots when I was in LosAngeles last time, and I don't
know what it is, but, um, a lot.
Well, I can tell you right now,almost all of the shots we need
take place at Scientologyproperties and, uh, when I roll
up to a Scientology property,they're not too friendly and
they, um, it's not too conducive, uh, for uh, video shooting.

(03:22):
So what we've done, let me seeif I can just pull this up here
real quick.
There you go.
Oh, let's get ourselves inthere a little bit better.
You can do it, honey.
I knew one of those was goingto be the right one.
Um, I know there's a typo inthe top.

(03:42):
I tried to fix it four times.
No matter what I do inStreamYard, it still uploads the
same document that was in there.
So you'll, uh, you'll, have toforgive my typo, which I have
fixed in the document that's onmy desktop.
It's just not, it's notupdating it in StreamYard.
I'm sorry.
Shots needed for secret videoproject and essentially all we

(04:11):
need, guys, is is if andobviously this is for the people
that live in Los Angeles, theseare, these are all Scientology
properties in Hollywood and ifwe, if we get these shots and
people, people go and shootthese shots and send us into
them, send them into us, thenyou can have a shot in this new
video project that we're doingand, um, essentially we're just
looking for, like, if you justhave an iphone, you don't have

(04:32):
to shoot it with any kind offancy camera, but if you have an
iphone and you just kind ofpoint it at the ground and tilt
up to the scientology building,and you could do the same thing.
You could start in the sky andjust tilt down to the
Scientology building and thenjust hold it there for like 10
seconds.
Um, and you can do pans too.
You can be on something elseand pan over to the building.

(04:53):
Um, you can shoot the signs.
I mean I'll just go through thelist real quick and tell you
guys what.
Whatever we can get, we'll useUm, and then I am going to try
to um, have somebody else shootsome.
For whatever we can get, we'lluse um, and then I am going to
try to um, have somebody elseshoot some for whatever we don't
get from people that send it in.
But in the past we'vecrowdsourced footage from you
guys and artwork and it's gonevery successfully.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
So I figured we might as well do it with this as well
yeah, we've quickly learnedthat this is an incredibly
creative community yes, we havehad a lot of people that have
helped us with stuff like this.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
But on Hollywood Boulevard they have a building
called the HGB, the HollywoodGuarantee Building.
We just need a shot of that.
It can be from across thestreet, it can be from a caddy
corner to that, anything.
Just a shot of the building.
Like I said, 10 seconds isprobably great.
There's a building on HollywoodBoulevard called the Hollywood
Inn.
It's the building that's kindof now down near Highland in

(05:55):
Hollywood and it has a big greenScientology sign on the side of
it.
That's called the Hollywood Inn.
It used to be a Hollywood Inn along, long time ago and that's
where Sea Org members live.
We could use a shot of thatbuilding.
Same thing tilt up, tilt down,pan over 10 seconds each,
whatever.
Then there's another buildingcalled Authored Services, which

(06:17):
is down near Man's Chinese orwhatever they call it these days
.
And then there's theAssociation for Better Living
and Educations, which is just ablock and a half.
Two blocks past that ASIthere's the LRH Life Exhibition.
That's just the ground floor ofthe HGB.
Actually it just says L RonHubbard Life Exhibition and any

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of these buildings that havesigns.
If you just take a picture ofthe sign as well, just as a
separate thing that could beuseful or video.
And then OSA is at the topfloor of that Hollywood
Guarantee Building, so thatfirst shot could probably double
for that.
And then CCHR CCHR has afacility that's the Citizens

(07:02):
Commission on Human Rights, andthey have a facility on sunset.
I want to say it's near, it'spretty close to sunset, and
Gower I want to say um, sunset,and yeah, you can look it up.
It's called the, the museum ofdeath, I think, is what their,
their facility is called.
Very, uh, very uplifting.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yes, and then and sorry, just to add a comment
from to answer questions in thecomments this isn't these LA
buildings is only what we needfor this particular project.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yes, this is part of the video that we're doing.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's for a survivor story that is incredible,
powerful and mind blowing, butit's all.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
These are the locations that tie into this
particular story and L RonHubbard way or fountain and L
Ron Hubbard way fountain isactually one of the best places

(08:09):
to get the shot Cause then youcan get that big uh, scientology
Hollywood or the bigScientology sign that is shown
in a lot of um videos where theytalk about Scientology being in
Hollywood, um.
And then there's anotherbuilding across from that called
the fountain building, um, andthen there's the Anthony
building a lot of these.
And then there's anotherbuilding across from that called
the fountain building, um, andthen there's the Anthony
building a lot of these andyou'll have to look them up.

(08:29):
I'm not going to go through andput maps of every single place,
but, and then the last one iscelebrity center.
So if anybody is an ex memberor um a fan that knows where
kind of all these things are, orif you just know where one or
two of these are, um, you don'thave to do all of them.
If you, if you got five minutesthat uh during a lunch break and

(08:50):
you want to zip down the streetand knock one of these off,
amazing and um, and and if yousend us an email saying that you
have footage, we will send youa specific link for you to
upload it to.
That way we can kind oforganize this.
So if you get some shots andyou say hey, you'll email claire

(09:12):
at bloom for goodcom, say, hey,I've got some, some video shots
, we'll send you a link to whereto upload them and then
there'll be a little somepaperwork in there for you to
fill out.
So we have all your contactinfo and we know how to credit
you in the video and all thatgood stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
And then and somebody asked maybe we could post this
in the community tab and maybewe can add addresses for it too,
where possible.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Oh yeah, that's a great idea.
We'll do that in the communitytab.
We'll put a link, we'll put apost in the in the community tab
that has the exact address ofeach one of these places.
And if you do have photos,we'll take photos.
But we would prefer it if wecould have some video cars
driving by, that kind of thingthat you can see and just see

(09:57):
that it's live.
But if you have photos of thesethings, or if you already have
videos of these things, let usknow and then we can go from
there.
And also, yes, very importantthis, no, this, yes, keep it
wide side to side.

(10:17):
We're not putting any portraitvideos in this thing.
So if you shouldn't portrait,don't even email us please.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's just a giant waste of email me, but I'm not
going to forward it to Markbecause he gets a little fussy.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, the shot should be about, like I said, 10
seconds is enough time for us tohave some handles on it front
and back and be able to cut intoit and cut out of it.
If you make it 15 seconds,that's not gonna be the end of
the world, it's just we're gonna.
We have a lot of locations, alot of shots we don't want.
Don't worry about the size ofthe video, it's just really how

(10:52):
long you can upload.
So, if you can shoot it in 4K,shoot it in 4K.
If you can only shoot it in1080, shoot it in 1080.
But, yeah, 15, 10, 15 secondsof each one.

(11:13):
And, like I said, you can panup, you can pan down or tilt up,
tilt down, and then you couldpan from side to side and, yeah,
keep it wide, side to side, 10to 15 seconds and all the things
in Hollywood, all theScientology facilities and I'd
like to just take a moment andgive a shout out to the one, the
only the talented, Kelly Copter.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
If you haven't subscribed to her channel, head
over to Kelly Copter andsubscribe.
She is doing some fantasticwork.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
So, yes, awesome, okay, I think we've got all that
.
Now we are going to do somegiveaways.
There are several people thathave sent in giveaways in the
Blown for Good store there's alink in the description if you
guys haven't been over there wegot all kinds of cool stuff.
We've gotten tons and tons ofpeople sending us pictures of

(12:06):
them.
In the merch, we've got peoplewho suggested merch and we've
made that merch.
So we've got phone cases, mugs,sweaters, sweatshirts, hoodies,
zip-up hoodies, regular hoodieseverything people requested we
have made, for the most part andin the video.
If you're watching this onyoutube on your phone or there

(12:27):
should be a little little shelfdown there that has a bunch of
products that are available inthe store, and if you just click
on the link in the descriptions, you can get tons of other uh
things that aren't on thatlittle shelf.
Wow, we are already up to 1200people watching right now, so
that's great.
That's a good for a Sunday.
We tried to do this one alittle earlier, guys, so the

(12:49):
people across the pond don'thave to stay up so late to watch
one of these live, and we aregoing to answer some questions
and we are going to do agiveaway a half hour in and an
hour in, and if we go longerthan that, we'll do it every
half hour, as long as we'restill here yapping.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
We have a Mike Rinder bobblehead too, which seems
fitting for in support of TeamMike.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes, absolutely.
And the other thing I wanted tomention, just so I don't forget
about it, is that Scientologyhas been pretty active on
Twitter, claiming that they were, their policies were
mischaracterized in the in therecent Danny Masterson court

(13:36):
case and in how the judge wasallowed their policies to be
portrayed.
Make no mistake, guys, whateverhas been said about
Scientology's policies was justreading their policies.
There was no interjection ofanything else that happens in

(13:59):
Scientology.
That's not part of theirpolicies.
That's not part of theirpolicies, and they are.
They're basically contestingthat they do not I don't know
what the right word is.
They don't discourage theirmembers from from reporting
things to the police, and alsothat they they encourage their

(14:22):
members to report things crimesto the police.
Now, I was at the base andClaire was at the base.
We were there for over a decade.
I was there for 15 years.
Claire was there for like 13,13 years.
How long that I was there tofinish 14 years 14 years, never
once did one person there reportany of the assaults that David

(14:45):
Miscavige committed on othermembers.
Not one time we were there Didanyone file a police report and
the police came onto theproperty and took a police
report from a member on anothermember.
That never happened once ofthings that should have been
reported to the police happenedall the time, but the police
were never called.

(15:05):
In fact, for a majority of thetime that we were there, if not
all the time that we were there,if you went into the phones at
that property and dialed 911, itwouldn't go anywhere.
You had to get an outside lineto be able to call outside of
the property and the only wayyou could get an outside line
was to dial the receptionist andif you said, put me through to

(15:26):
the police, she just hang up onyou.
She wouldn't put you through tothe police.
And here's when a lot of us gotout and started reporting these

(15:53):
things.
Scientology did not deny thatthere was physical abuse
happening at their propertiesand that it was a culture of
violence there.
Not only did they not deny that, but they said oh, that was
because of Marty Rathbun andMike Rinder.
They were the ones thatpromoted the culture of violence

(16:13):
and they were the ones thatwere abusing people.
Okay, so let's just pretendthat that was the case.
For a second, where's all thepolice reports?
There are none.
Where's all the police reports?
They're none.
They never, ever, reported anyof these assaults that were
taking place on anyone by anyone, were never once reported to
the police.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
so if you're encouraging, don't forget and
don't forget.
They said it was ecclesiasticaljustice well, that was in.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
yeah, you know what?
I think that was in the tampaTimes.
They, tommy Davis, said thatany justice that was doled out
by David Miscavige on members ofthe Sea Organization and
members of Scientology, they'recharacterizing that as

(17:10):
ecclesiastical justice.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, exactly, and the fact of the matter is that
Scientology alleging that theyencouraged their members to call
the police is as blatant a lie,if not even worse, than them
claiming that disconnection doesnot exist.
Any Scientologist knows theyhave never been encouraged to

(17:35):
call the police ever, under anycircumstances.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, the fact that's a good point, and I want to, I
want to think well, the othertime this sort of came up was in
the anderson cooper um storythat he did on scientology.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's where the that's where the ecclesiastical
justice was brought up.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Yeah, so, when he wasinterviewing they're called the
inch wives, but it was the wifewife of Marty Rathbun, Mike
Rinder, Jeff Hawkins and TomDeVock.
These four wives were onAnderson Cooper, and they said
they mentioned this thing, theyalluded to this oh, that

(18:17):
violence happened when Mike andMarty were there not with, not
under David Miscavige andAnderson Cooper said, well,
where are the police reports?
And they were like, don'tinsult us, you know like it was
like they never answered thequestion, but it was sort of
like yeah, if all these assaultsare taking place, then why
didn't anybody report it?

(18:38):
It could have been nipped inthe bud right off the bat there.
Anyway, you're right, though,For them to publicly put out a
statement saying that they donot discourage members from
reporting to police.
They might as well just besaying hey, everybody, that's
still in Scientology.
Not only are we, not only havewe been lying to you for 70

(19:01):
years, but we lie to everybodypretty much as just a standard
practice about everything abouteverything that we get
questioned, and we've never doneanything wrong ever since our
inception, and anytime that wehave done something wrong, it
wasn't our fault.
It was the people who did itsfault, and they're no longer in
Scientology and they're the onesthat are causing all the

(19:22):
trouble.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, and let's not forget that when Tommy Davis
lied about disconnection onnational television, that
triggered a huge wave of peopleleaving Scientology, so I expect
nothing less this time around.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
We are ready and willing to help people and,
believe you me, word on thestreet is they have an exodus
happening that will, no doubt,will gain momentum.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, we are hearing.
The Aftermath Foundation arehearing from more people.
We personally, personally, arehearing from more people, and if
you're a Scientologist andyou're watching this and you
were the victim of Scientologiston Scientologist crime, which
is the most prevalent crimewithin Scientology is members

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screwing each other over orassaulting each other or
stealing businesses and then notpaying for them.
All sorts of this nonsense goeson on a regular basis.
This is the best thing.
We were talking about this in avideo a few weeks ago.
We had members we've hadmultiple Scientologists email us

(20:29):
and tell us that this is notonly happening in Los Angeles,
this is not only happening inLondon, this is not only.
It's happening in allorganizations credit card fraud,
elder abuse, assaults beingcovered up.
If you're watching right nowand you're a Scientologist, tell

(20:50):
me you can't think of oneinstance in your local
organization where some shadystuff went on and you heard
about it.
There was rumblings, it wasgoing around the whisper web and
that person nothing everhappened to that person.
The person that did thecommitted the crime or committed
the assault or whatever it was.
He just went on business asusual.

(21:11):
Maybe he got in some trouble inScientology world, but then he
just went right back to doingwhat he was doing and everything
went on and that I canguarantee you.
Almost every singleScientologist knows of one of
these people that committed acrime.
100% should have gone to jailor 100% should have gotten a

(21:35):
ticket or something.
There should have been a courtcase.
He should have been made to paysomebody.
Nothing, nothing happened atall.
So we're hearing from a lot ofthose people, but I guarantee
you there's more of you outthere.
So, yeah, if you're out thereand you've got crimes that have
occurred and you were the victimof them, now is the time.

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There's actually a lawyer in LosAngeles and he's represented
people all over.
But people have tried to gettheir money back, like, say,
they have a hundred thousanddollars on account with
Scientology and they don't planon going back and doing any of
that, or that they got money wasput on their credit cards
without them knowing, or theyjust created a credit card

(22:18):
account with this person's infoand then started racking up
bills on the credit card.
There's a lawyer named GrahamBerry in Los Angeles when he
writes a letter to Scientologysaying hey, this person was you
stole $50,000 from this person.
He ran it up on his creditcards.
They don't even get into alegal scuffle with this guy.
They just send him a check for$50,000 and say yeah, yeah, tap,

(22:38):
tap, tap, we're done.
Uncle, uncle, we don't want todo this.
There's so many crimes andfinancial crimes that
Scientology's committed thatthey don't want any of this
stuff making it to the courtsystem because they it will show
like, oh, this is a pattern,they're doing this on the
regular, so just want to putthat out there.

(22:59):
Scientology's really doublingdown on this fact that they've
never done anything and they'rebeing victimized in the courts
and all that.
No, this is we're not.
This is not what we're talkingabout, guys.
We're talking about themobstructing justice and they're
doubling down that we're goingto keep doing it.
So, anyway, we're.

(23:22):
A lot of people have also askedwhy don't you guys report this
to the authorities?
Why don't you report this tothe police?
We've been reporting everythingwe know since 2006 to police
sheriffs, county officials,elected officials, the FBI,
congress, you name it.

(23:43):
We've been sending these peopleletters, detailed documentation
.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
And let's be specific , the last police report we know
of was made last night.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, there's stuff happening right now, guys Like
these guys are.
Yeah, there's like ongoingthings that are happening.
You know, just because we'renot here doing a video doesn't
mean nothing's happening there'sno, quite the opposite actually
.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, there's not enough hours in the day,
unfortunately, but doing ourbest to keep up absolutely.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
oh, I look, I just saw, look bing amobie.
Yes, we have all been reportingwhat we know.
Yeah, that's the other thing.
It's not just Claire and I,there's a lot of people Amy,
matt, mike, christy.
By this point there's probablyhundreds, I would guess, if not
more lot of people that arereporting things and the what we

(24:45):
have learned is the longerthings are reported and the more
people that are reporting thesame things, like they have the
same story but it's in adifferent place, or they have
the same story and it was at adifferent year, or you know, but
it's the same sort of assaults,the same sort of abuse, the
same sort of taken Sea Orgmembers passports or keeping any

(25:07):
identification they have to beable to travel.
Any of these things are frownedupon in pretty much all
countries as well.
These aren't things that arelike oh, that's a US thing or
that's a UK thing.
No, for the most part, you'renot supposed to keep people's
passports if you're not theperson whose passport it is.
So, unless you're on a cruiseship, okay, they shouldn't be

(25:31):
having your passports.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
But even then I mean the cruise ship people don't
keep your passport when we go ona cruise.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, they don't keep it, they just want to see it.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, they just want to look at it.
Most times they don't even wantto hold it, they just want to
look at it.
Most times they don't even wantto hold it, they just want to
scan it.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, when you're in the Sea Org, Scientology wants
to look at your passport theentire time you're in the Sea
Org and keep looking at it in alocked cabinet so you can't go
anywhere with it.
Okay, I think that's enough ofthat.
Did you have anything else nowthat I've finished my
Scientology?
Or Ridiculous rant?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Thanks for giving me the floor.
No, I think I'm good.
I said what I wanted to say.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I know it's a little early, but we could actually
just rock and roll on somegiveaway right now.
If you want, you want to do thefirst one, babe.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, absolutely I would love to.
So we'll do the bobbleheadfirst for team mike awesome we
got about.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
We got about 1700 people in the chat right now
nice um, if you guys are in needof a bobblehead and uh and also
, oh, before I forget, there's alink in the description marilyn
makes outfits for thebobbleheads.
So if you have a bobblehead andyou're just getting and you're

(26:50):
kind of tired of the same old,same old suit that the
bobblehead's wearing, you canget him a Zinu outfit.
You can get him a Duke of Chugoutfit.
Do you have that thing that shesent you?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
You ready?
Claire got this this week.
Guys, it's a Claire bear.
It's a crocheted Claire bearand Marilyn made that and sent
it in.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
He was like, I want that.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, our son.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
We made a donation to the foundation, the Aftermath
Foundation, in exchange for aClaire bear.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Awesome, all righty.
So I'm going to do a countdownfor a bobblehead.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Five, four, three, two, one.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Okay, there you go, holly, holly Mays.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Okay, awesome, congratulations, holly May.
Mays shoot me an email, claireat balloon for goodcom, with
your address, and we will mailthat out to you first thing
tomorrow morning nice, perfect,okay, good.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well, there you go guys.
Um, I say we, uh, do somequestions, we'll see.
We've got guys.
I say we do some questions,we'll see.
We've got a few people.
Oh, we got some super chatsalready fired up here.
Michelle McIntosh says hi fromNewcastle, australia, wow,
awesome, that's crazy.
We got people from all overhere.

(28:22):
Judith, susi.
I'll say Susi, susi, claire, Iwatched your interview with
Andrew Gold and made me realizejust how little of your story I
knew.
You were incredibly brave andinspirational.
I was near tears listening toit.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Wow, thank you, judith.
I appreciate it and, yes, lotsmore to share, unfortunately, or
fortunately, depending on yourperspective.
It's fine, I'm not, I'm justtelling my story.
It's not a you know, it is whatit is.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, gino Dean, I think this is Jerry from
Sarasota.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Sarasota, jerry.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Mike has untold thousands of friends and
supporters lifting him up withprayers and best wishes.
Absolutely, we're definitely onteam Mike and we're going to
get him fixed up and, yeah,whatever he needs, we're here
for him and, if it comes to it,we might even reach out to you
guys if there's something weneed in order to make sure he
makes it through.

(29:22):
Whatever he needs to make itthrough, and we're here for him,
no matter what.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
And we will know more very shortly.
So stay tuned, we willabsolutely.
We've made it very clear.
We are in 100% to do whateverwe have to.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Absolutely.
Carol D says at Claire where'sthe?
Where's Shelly series Love itOkay, good, Awesome Yay.
Series Love it Okay, good,Awesome Yay.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Lots more to come.
Great, great material.
We're going to keep asking.
You know, I've heard people sayoh well, we know where she is.
You know what?
I don't know where she is.
I assume where she is, butthat's not good enough in the
case of Scientology, or in thecase of Shelley Miscavige, and
the bottom line is is there aremany other executives missing as

(30:07):
well.
So we're going to keep goinguntil something is done about
this and and until we knowShelley is alive and well.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yes, hey, bungalow bill.
Thank you for the super chat.
Appreciate that.
I guess he's watching in fromCanada.
That looks like a Canadiandough there.
Um, m Adams guys, youtube hasstarted serving me ads for Ritz
crackers Coincidence?
I think not.
Um, I, you know, I don't.

(30:38):
I don't, um, I have YouTube, Ijust subscribe.
Um, I pay for a YouTube premiumbecause I it's for all our kids
and we all get to use it, butso I don't actually see any of
these ads.
But I bet you I'd be gettingsome cracker ads too if I, if I,
did have that ability to getthose.

(30:58):
Oh, here's a bungalow billagain says do public
Scientologists really not GoogleScientology?
Bungalow Bill again says dopublic Scientologists really not
Google Scientology Don't?
It's sort of like this thingwhere there's bad news on the
Internet.
If the Scientologists are beingtold you don't go on the
Internet.
It's just bad news aboutScientology on the internet and

(31:22):
in Scientology.
If you are reading bad news andyou're listening to things that
suppressives are talking about,then that will cost you money
inside Scientology.
So if you, if you have to go infor counseling, at the
beginning of every counselingsession they ask you a series of
questions, um, that would sortof weed out any Googling of

(31:46):
Scientology in the recent time.
And then you have to confess tothat.
And confessing to that couldcost you could cash you five
thousand dollars, could cost youtwenty thousand dollars and
you're all of your Scientologycounseling is parked until you
sort out the fact that you werelooking on the internet trying
to find out about stuff aboutscientology.

(32:08):
So scientologists, not only arethey living a a tory, uh,
chrisman used to say this allthe time, it's like the truman
show.
So scientologists are in thetruman show and this whole world
has been built around them andsome of them know that they're
in the show, but if they ask tolook outside the show, wow,

(32:32):
they're going to get in bigtrouble.
That was me this time.
So if you've got some kind ofdrink game going on and Claire,
normally her phone rings.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I love it when it's you.
It's so rewarding.
I cannot believe it.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I was trying to sort out that stupid shot list typo
for 10 minutes before we startedand I didn't get to put my do
not disturb on, so I apologizeprofusely and that will not
happen again, at least thisstream.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Do I have to yell at you after this to tell you off
for having your phone on?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
yeah you can give me anyway.
The Scientologists know thatthere's nonsense going on, but
they're not allowed to lookbecause essentially it will cost
them money and if they get introuble?
I mean, there's a girl that weknow, a woman that we know,
syllvia de wall.
She was declared a suppressiveperson for watching leah on

(33:29):
dancing with the stars.
Yes, she didn't say anythingabout scientology, she didn't
post anything on the internet,she didn't bad mouth somebody,
she didn't turn anybody into thepolice.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
She watched dancing with the stars when leah was on
it and they called her in anddoesn't she have a recording of
her interview which was postedon tony ortega's site?
We should link to that.
It's, yeah, insane yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
She had a person call her in and give her, put her
like, put her through aninterrogation, and the the
bottom line, the end of that was, yeah, it's over.
You watched Leah on Dancingwith the Stars, so yeah, there
it's.
And they make an example ofthose people.
So then the other people know,yeah, maybe don't do that.
So hey, bungalow bill, dopublic Scientologists really not

(34:20):
Google Scientology?
Yes, they really don't Googlescientology we did that one
already right yeah, I was justcalling back to it then say,
yeah, that's the deal.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Um, here's one for you clara bear at blown for good
.
You were outstandingly strongon the ashley banfield interview
.
Thank you, and Andrea Thanksfor watching, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, that was pretty good.
I mean it was short, but I meanit was on primetime TV.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I want to say that channel has like 700,000
subscribers or something likethat.
So hey, yeah, and it was soamazing that Scientology and OSA
creeped Ashley Banfield outprofessionally and personally,
simply and only because shetweeted out earlier that day
that she would interview me.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, that's another thing.
I've had that happen to me too.
I went on a show, patrickBet-David.
He has a website called valueattainment or YouTube channel,
and when I went to go do theinterview with him he was down
in Texas at the time and I wentdown there I was also doing some
other stuff down in Texas and Iwent over there and and he had

(35:36):
all this stuff that they hadsent him and I was just like, oh
, that's perfect, that's good.
And he's like I've had hundredsof people on.
Nobody does this, nobody sendsme like no one sends me a file
on the person I'm about tointerview, with all the dirt
that they could dig up on thatperson.
Most of it made up, but anyway,it was pretty awesome.

(36:04):
Arnie Van Halen, do not be awayfor so long again.
What the heck am I supposed tolisten to at the warehouse?
Well, you know, to be fair,arnie, I appreciate it.
We'll try not to leave so longagain.
But, to be fair, we have about100 videos on our channel.
Chances are you haven't seenthem all, so if you tune in and
we're not here, you can watchany of the other videos that are
up there.
Unless you've watched all those,then you might have to jump

(36:25):
over to amy, your channel, or,uh, you know, one of the other
sp tv channels.
Um, sparky and oregon superchat.
Thank you for that.
Sparky and oregon, that's anoddly uh specific amount for a
super chat without any text.
But I appreciate it, sparky,I'll take every.
I'll take every last super chat.
Uh, you want to send us um andum.
I appreciate it.
Sparky, I'll take every lastsuper chat you want to send us,

(36:46):
and I appreciate it.
Oh, mark Fisher, how long do youwant the shots?
Oh, 10 or 15 seconds.
I think he's talking about theshots of the building.
But, mark, you're not going toLA, you live in Vegas.
You maniac.
This is for the people that arein LA.
Please, people don't travel,don't make a trip to do these

(37:07):
shots.
If you live in LA, I'm, I would, I'm, I'm asking you.
It's not that big of a deal tozip over there, but if you live
in Vegas and you go there,that's on you.
Ok, I'm not asking for that.
John Satowski says hope you areover your cracker stomach issues
.
I am not, I'm not.
I have, literally I've, had acrackerless diet for the past

(37:35):
few weeks to see if I can likereturn to normal and I'm finally
kind of getting back to regularhere after going on that mad
cracker binge from all thecrackers people were sending in.
We'll figure it out.
I might still do those videos,but I'm just going to eat the
one cracker for the video andthen that's it.
Maybe two, maybe three max,depending on how many takes we
have to do, but that's about it.
I'm not going to, you know, eata package.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Segway to a new topic .
Have you noticed how, everysingle life we do, it always
bothers people that we're not inthe same room?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, I've never seen that ever.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Oh yeah, so I just wanted to let everyone know who
has that question.
When Mark started back up hischannel, he set up in his small
room down there for him and Ibutted in and decided to take
part in all the fun andcontribute to the motion, and I
do that from my comfort zone,which is in my office.
Neither location fits to twopeople.

(38:27):
So there you have it, folks.
I'm on the main level andMark's in the basement.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yes, and we are going to upgrade her setup.
We have everything here andhopefully the next time we do a
live it'll be all her new setupand it'll be amazing and
everybody will love it.
And yes, there you go.
Also, sometimes one of us needto duck out, and if we were in

(38:53):
the same place that would beawkward.
So, if Claire has to pop off andsort out a dog or kid issue
that's in the middle of goingdown, or if I have to go grab
something or do something andshe takes over.
It makes it a little bit moreum conducive to do that more
manageable.
Yep for sure it's all good,we're we're.

(39:13):
You know I spend a lot of timewith this gal, so you know it's
it's an hour or two.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
He doesn't mean he doesn't like he doesn't mind
being one level down from meit's all good.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
it's all good he doesn't mind being one level
down from me.
It's all good, it's all good.
Lisa Robertson says, hoping fora speedy recovery for Mike.
Yes, we all are, lisa.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yes, 100%.
Team Mike, we are going to dothis Seriously.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
X Scientologist says what maximum size of video?
Yeah, don't worry about thesize of video, because we're
going to give a place to you toupload it.
It could be 12 terabytes if youwant to do.
That might take a few weeks toupload, but but yeah, anything
if it's 10 seconds, if each shotis 10 seconds long, the files
won't be that big.
Even if you shoot them in 4K,they won't be that big.

(39:57):
Enchanted Chains Jewelry.
Hi, mark and Claire Nate, youwere great on earlier podcast.
Hi, goldie, I survived a heartattack this week, recovering.
To SPTV question.
The suppressive electricianasks when are bobble picks?
Oh, when are bobble picks?

(40:18):
Oh, because we haven't beendoing those.
Yeah, the bobble picks are funbut they're wholly unproductive.
We don't get a lot ofproductive dialogue, like people
are asking questions and we'retrying to answer them and I
thought we were kind of wastinga lot of time showing funny
pictures and they did start totrickle down.

(40:41):
But maybe we'll do that, maybewe'll do.
We were doing them every week.
I think it would be moreappropriate maybe to do those
once a month or once every fewmonths or whatever, if anyone
sends them in, but we haven'tbeen getting-.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
We could do it for, like you know, Scientology event
celebrations.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Well, either way, no one's been sending us any, so we
haven't felt the need to dothem.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I've gotten some.
I'm still getting some.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Some is like a handful I'm talking about.
We were getting 30, 40 a week.
So if we're not getting thatmany, there's nothing to show.
So if you do have some you wantto send us.
Mike Rinder, bobbleheads atOrgs.
Do remember, if you do shoot apicture of your bobblehead at a
Scientology organization, pleasedo it with and without the

(41:29):
bobblehead, because we are sortof creating a database of these
org photos to see what theycurrently look like and how
empty the parking lots are.
We like that.
That's always fun.
Yeah, maria de Jesus Gutierrezsays what.
I'm down there all the time.
I can do this.
Tomorrow I can shoot whatevermy iPhone shoot in.

(41:49):
There are all things Los Felizneed them.
There are things in Los Feliz.
You could do that Los Felizmission.
You could do that one as well,Maria.
That would be amazing.
But for the most part, the oneswe really need are the ones in

(42:10):
Hollywood.
The Los Feliz one is whatever,but Big Blue, HGV, CC, those
kinds of things.
That's what we're looking for.
I appreciate it.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yes, that's awesome.
Thank you, Maria.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Kristen says question mark did you just get lucky in
Scientology being assigned toand trained for an industry that
you like and have beensuccessful at after leaving Love
SPTV?
No, I, actually Scientology didtheir best from to not allow me
to do what I was good at when Iwas there was good at when I

(42:47):
was there.
They moved me around to allsorts of other things that I
didn't really particularly havea propensity for or enjoy doing
Like I was a post-production ora pre-production executive and I
was a shoot productionexecutive and I really like
being a technician or buildingaudio visual systems, and that
was actually only my officialjob for like the last six months

(43:11):
I was there.
That was it.
For the whole time I was there.
I was not allowed to do thatand even when I did do it they
call it hobby horsing.
Oh, you're just doing what youlike to do, you're not doing
your job.
There was many years that I wasover those areas, but it wasn't
my direct job to do that andwhenever those areas that built

(43:31):
the audiovisual systems,whenever they got behind or
whenever they had a huge thingbacklogs of systems to produce,
then it was allowed for me to goin there and work and produce
those things, but for the mostpart they actually didn't want
me to do that and they didn'tallow me to do that until the
very last six months I was thereand it was kind of poetic that

(43:52):
I ended up doing that and Iloved it so much and I was so
good at it that they had to getrid of me and then that's what I
do for a living now.
So, and they didn't, they,they're, they're, they're,
they're useless at that stuff.
They can't, they couldn't,train somebody on that if they
wanted to.
All the training that I um didwhen I was there, I did on my

(44:13):
own to learn about a lot ofthese things and how they worked
and, um, and how to do itprofessionally.
And then I've uh have uh,educated myself, uh, immensely
since escaping and so, yeah, no,it wasn't, I wouldn't credit, I
would.
If I never went there, I'dprobably do it be doing the

(44:36):
exact same thing.
That's what I think in my heartof hearts.
Thank you for that question.
Yes, I realize you will take 4kor 1080, but it's easier to film
in your native format.
What is your native format,mark?
Well, we can.
It's not actually.
It doesn't actually matter tous because we can scale.

(44:58):
We can scale it down to 1080.
So, if you can shoot in 4K,we'll take 4K.
If you can shoot in 1080, shootin 1080, whichever one you want,
take 4k.
If you can shoot in 10 80,shoot in 10 80, whichever one
you want.
Um, if you're shooting it withyour iPhone, if you go into your
camera settings, it will.
You can say what resolution youwant it to shoot at in there
and, um, we'll accept any ofthose.
Don't worry about any of that.
Um, we're not.

(45:19):
We're asking for shots.
I'm not going to dictate it'sgotta be this and it's got we'll
.
We'll make it work, no matterwhat you guys send.
Rocky Road says the news.
The News Nation video has acommenter that claims Aaron is
anti-Semitic.
By the nickname is a AryanAaron.
He called me a xenomorph.
Ok, rocky Road, I don't knowabout any of that, but OK.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
What the heck's that?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I have no idea.
I don't know what any of thismeans, um, but yes uh there are
lots of crazy commenters on lotsof places on youtube.
Not everybody's got a goldie.
You know what I'm saying so um,I think gold I'm actually not
even sure.
I'm not actually even sure.
Um, I would love to see some ofthe things that Goldie takes

(46:08):
out.
They never even reach us.
So for the most part, thecomments that I see on our
channel, sometimes they're alittle snarky or they're a
little you know.
They poke fun at me or theypoke fun at Claire, but I mean
there's nothing that I'm goingto get.
I mean I was, I was in a cultfor 15 years.

(46:29):
Guys, youtube comments hardlygoing to trigger me.
Okay, that's not how we rollover here.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Um we have far thicker skin than you might
imagine.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yes, claire, the video with Amy was great.
You gals are amazing, strong,et cetera.
I truly admire you.
That's nice.
Thank you, susan B.
Helen Girl 55 says hi, mark andClaire, great to see you both
today.
Great to see you, helen Girl 55.

(47:00):
Yeah, we haven't.
Thank you for being here.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Wow, we're at 2,000 here now.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Nice, 2,000.
And we're coming up in 13minutes.
We're coming up on anothergiveaway.
So make sure you you get yourkeyboard, you keyboard folks or
phone or whatever you're on, Getready to jump into the chat
when you, when we go to startthrowing out some of this, these
giveaways, these mergegiveaways.
Michelle Mish, we should pick adate to all post when is Shelly

(47:27):
?
All on social media taggingScientology and keep on every
day might be able to bring herforward, but at least get people
talking and keeping away.
Yeah, everything helps guys.
The.
There's a lot of people that arefinding out about this Where's
Shelly thing from youtube, um,uh, last there's a show on hbo

(47:52):
called last week tonight withjohn oliver.
He talks about where.
He's talked about where'sshelly probably more than any
other person on any kind ofstreaming service or or like
official network like hbo, um,but he's done a lot of where
Shelly content.
And and then, yeah, that guythat was on the.

(48:13):
I think it was the goldenglobes.
One of the award shows made uswhere Shelly joke.
So it's getting out there.
I mean, we've been.
We've been asking where Shelly.
We did a picket 2009.
When was that picket?
That was in Hollywood withanonymous.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yep, that was 2009.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, we did a picket , jenna.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Jenna Miscavige and Mark Fisher was there.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Tori Chrisman.
Was there that one outside ofthe HGB?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
No, no, this one was in hall, this one was at big
blue on sunset.
Oh we went to a picket.
Maybe only I went to that one,maybe you didn't go to that one.
That was an anonymous picketand I was even wearing an
anonymous mask.
Scientology has got tons ofpictures of me with anonymous
mask on the V for vendetta guyFox mask.
We went to a picket atScientology.

(49:03):
Anonymous did a picket.
I kid you not, guys, this wasthe most amazing thing I've ever
seen.
Someone flew a plane overScientology's property with one
of those banners, you know likeyou see at the beach, where it
says you know like, buy Fritos,they're great, or whatever they
say.
Or you know, happy birthday,michelle.
Somebody flew over all aroundHollywood above the Scientology

(49:27):
properties with a plane that hadone of those banners and it
said where's Shelly?
I don't know who did that.
I don't know how that happened,but it was amazing.
It was amazing.
There's got to be pictures ofthat somewhere, but it was
literally yeah, no, I've seenpictures of that.
Oh my goodness, and we didn'tknow this was going to happen.
I mean, I didn't know this wasgoing to happen.
Somebody somewhere knew.

(49:48):
But we were sitting there andwe're like what does that say?
Up there.
And then they got close.
We're, like it says we'reShelley.
Oh my goodness, that's crazy.
Anyway, that was pretty amazing.
Yeah, sylvia 1978 says love youfor all you do and for all you
are about to do and haveachieved so far, watching you

(50:08):
since November.
Keep it up.
Love from the Netherlands.
Well, thank you, sylvia, weappreciate that.
I love how there's people herefrom like other countries and
other states and other towns andit's amazing Misbehaving.
I read the Amazon version.

(50:28):
Oh oh, I read the amazonversion of bfe years ago but
I've become such a cracker,licker, claire bear I had to go
for the hard cover which I gotin two days.
Yeah, the blown for goodshipping is amazing.
I mean, if you place an order,that's claire.
If you place an order in themorning, almost every single day

(50:51):
it will get shipped out bylunch or at least dinner.
At least I do a post office runevery single morning If there's
books to go.
When I head off to work,claire's already processing them
all and they're all sittingthere and I take them, and then
we've got other people that takethem during the day.
So if you want a book and youwant it fast, you can go to the

(51:12):
blown for good store and orderup a paperback or a hardback.
They're both signed by Claireand myself and, yeah, they ship
out same day Usually.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
First time, angry Isaac says, first time catching
a live.
Thanks to both of you for allyou do.
Bought BFG on Kindle then as anaudio book.
Well worth the extra to hearyou read it.
Mark, you do a great job.
Thank you very much.
I recorded it on thismicrophone right here.
Thank you, Isaac.
I appreciate that PT Bird Saw apic of Goebbels.

(51:40):
Is DM his reincarnation?
I don't know.
I've never seen like a side byside of that, but I'd have to
take a peek at that.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know about thatone.
I don't know enough abouteither one of those.
But you know, we did learnsomething very spooky in the
last week about some stuff Idon't.

(52:04):
Do you want to say it, Claire?
Do you want to talk about it?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah, let's do it.
It's so chilling, it's just so.
So essentially, as most peoplehere know, I was in Religious
Technology Center for eightyears.
That's the top, the highestecclesiastical organization in
Scientology, run by DavidMiscavige himself.
And there is an L Ron Hubbardadvice in which he states that

(52:33):
the staff of ReligiousTechnology Center are to be the
police of as hard as cold chromesteel unquote, and so on our

(52:54):
Wednesday show.
On the Wednesday show I didwith Amy Scobie last week,
someone actually commented andtold us that hard as cold chrome
steel is a direct quote from anAdolf Hitler speech to Nazi
youth.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah.
If that's not insane there.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I mean, if that doesn't blow your mind, I was.
I was mind blown.
I was like follow an AdolfHitler instruction to Nazi youth
that was repeated by none otherthan L Ron Hubbard himself.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, that's sort of crazy if you think about it for
a second.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah, let that settle in.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, and RTC is the police of Scientology.
No-transcript.

(54:12):
If the religious technologycenter, that's the highest,
highest organization in all ofScientology.
If they say you are declared asuppressive person, you're
declared a suppressive person,you're never going to see your
family again, you're never goingto be able to work at your
Scientology business again, yourlife is over as you know it.
So if they say, don't reportsomething to the local police,

(54:35):
you're not going to do itbecause the Scientology police
are much, much, much, muchharder on Scientologists than,
and can do more harm like that.
Not to say that the regularpolice shouldn't be notified,
because if someone's committed acrime then the police need to
get involved in all that stuff.

(54:55):
But just in terms of howScientologists react, they do
whatever they're told they don't.
They don't.
If you're wondering, well, whyaren't these people coming
forward and why aren't theyreporting these things?
They do what they're told.
If they're told not to reportthings to police, they're not
reporting things to police.
Okay, ob O'Brien says thebeginning of the end.

(55:16):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, yes, absolutely Thank you for
that OB.
We appreciate that we got fiveminutes up, five minutes to the
giveaway.
I'm just trying to keep trackbecause we lose track.
We start yapping, I startyapping and rambling and then we
forget all about it and whattime are we going to go, until
4.30?
.
Or until we run out ofquestions.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Oh yeah, we should just say we should just agree
right now, because, yeah, we're,we already committed to our
neighbors.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Let's say five, we'll stop at five, no matter what,
we're shutting it down at five4.30.
4.30.
Shutting it down at 4.30.
4.30.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Final giveaway at 4.30.
That's my final answer,Otherwise I won't be able to
have the house ready.
Thank you for yourunderstanding, people.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Oh yeah, michelle Carpenter, rollercoaster Week.
All my love to y'all.
Also, if any viewers thediscord server to chat with 50
plus now and growing fellow SPSand get notified of SPTV live
streams.
Goldie has the link.
Yeah, if, if you can get thatlink, claire, and we'll put it
in the description and I mighteven head over there and see

(56:19):
what's up with all that.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I don't really get into that kind of stuff but I
might.
I'll try it and I'll see what'sup.
Destiny Salazar with so manycrimes and receipts for those
crimes, what do you think keepsthe authorities from stepping up
?
Um, that's a good question.
It's.
We were, when we were um, whenwe were working with um, some

(56:42):
different agencies on this.
Because of the religiouscloaking that Scientology hides
behind, it's very, very hard forthem to bring a case against
them.
And the example that was usedwith me by one individual agent
was if somebody says DavidMiscavige shot somebody, we need

(57:03):
the gun.
We need the person who got shot, we need the gun, we need the
person who got shot, we needDavid Miscavige and hopefully we
need a video or a bunch ofpeople that saw him do that.
Now what Scientology will do isif let's say I'm there, I work
at the property and I say DavidMiscavige hit me, and then I go

(57:24):
to the police, well, scientologywill get a hundred people that
were at that property to allright, I was there when Mark was
meeting with him and Dave nevertouched him, and they'll sign
an affidavit that says that.
So it's basically my wordagainst a hundred people that
say that they were also there.
Even if they weren't there,they didn't witness anything.

(57:45):
There was three people thereand those three people they
don't even do affidavits.
They get all these other peoplethat weren't there to do the
affidavits.
I mean, there's a few guys atthe base that Dave beat on a
regular basis, like just nonstop, like in the people that he
beat on.
They were in the top five,those individuals that I

(58:07):
personally and Claire has seenDavid Miscavige abuse.
These guys.
We've seen affidavits from themsaying that David Miscavige has
never even yelled at me.
He's never even raised hisvoice.
One time there was a littlebird that had broken its wing
outside of our office.
David Miscavige went out thereand picked it up and nursed it
back to health and I mean theseare the affidavits.

(58:30):
Not only has he not beat them,but he's rescuing birds during
the workday.
Okay, yeah, it's ridiculous.
Pat Broker, co BILF such ahypocrite telling members not to
call the police, threatening tocall feds when he finds cash in

(58:50):
the freezer at a rival safehouse.
What is going on?
What is going on in thecomments?
I don't know what this has todo with, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
OK, then.
Thank you, Pat Broker, forbeing here.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Thanks.
Pat, I guess that that wassupposed to be Pat Broker
commenting on our channel.
If you guys don't know, PatBroker was one of the two people
that L Ron Hubbard actuallyturned over the management of
Scientology to before DavidMiscavige pushed him out and
took over himself.
By the way.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Amy Scobie just commented in the comments that
she sent their stupid affidavitsto the FBI.
Oh it's zeroed out.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
That's it, guys.
I'm in the clear.
I'm in the clear.
Even after I did it, she stilldidn't put her phone on Do Not
Disturb and she gave me back.
It's a tie now.
I did put it on Do Not Disturb,and she gave me back.
It's a tie now.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
No, I did put it on Do Not Disturb and I'm supposed
to pick something up and I hadto remind myself of that and I
didn't know that we were goingto be doing this right at this
time.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Tampa, Japan, Green of Gables.
Oh, you can read this one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Okay, tampa, japan of Green Gables.
Claire, I emailed you to redeemmy giveaway prize from the last
live stream.
Awesome, I'm quite sure I'vesent it.
I don't always remember to sendthe tracking information, but
I've made a note and I willdouble check to make sure it's
on the way.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
John Satowski says oh , some members, if you leave
Scientology, I will send you amonthly cracker.
I'll send you monthly crackershipments.
That's very nice of you, john,and I can vouch for John, cause
he has sent me cracker shipments.
And, um, I'm not sure thatnecessarily.
Um, the OSA people that areleaving, the first thing they're

(01:00:39):
going to need is crackers, butat least they will have some
food, uh, in the form of acracker, in addition to whatever
other help they need.
Osa people, when you do decideto leave, you can give us a call
and we will still help you,even though you're, as Denver
Stevo likes to say, you're notthe best smelling Scientologist.

(01:01:00):
The OSA guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
But you can shed that when you leave.
It's very easy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Yeah, once you leave that place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
It's far easier than you might think to start over.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yeah, exactly Once you leave.
It's very easy.
Yeah, Once you leave that place, Far easier than you might
think.
Yeah, exactly Once you leavethere, you won't smell like that
anymore.
Joanne Buck says hey, Claire,strange question, but do you
have any family from Limerick?
I'm asking because mygrandfather was one of 12 and
you look like me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Wow, well, I'm not so Limerick I'm thinking is
Ireland.
I don't know.
I grew up in a cult.
I'm not too familiar, I'venever been to Ireland, but very
likely because my grandma wasone of 12 people Well, shoot 12
kids.
She was from Cork, ireland, soit wouldn't surprise me.

(01:01:42):
I've come across other secondand third cousins who also look
exactly like me and I don't looklike my mother not by coloring
anyway.
Awesome.
Yeah, message me, maybe we'rerelated.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Yeah, get on that.
23andme Bo Beats, how did yourson's BFG report go?
Thanks for LE E reply.
I don't think he actually hasgotten graded on.
Did he get graded on that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
He did, he did great yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Oh, that's right.
I think he got an A.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I want to say he got an A.
Yeah, the teacher was a Depechemode fan.
It was.
It was almost a given.
It was almost a shoe in guys.
Come on.
Um, george Massey, do we needto 10 X?
The aftermath foundation?
Um, the aftermath foundation isdoing great right now.
Um, we have been getting a tonof support and, um, we are.

(01:02:39):
We have some amazing stuffcoming up.
Um that you guys are going tofind out about results of the,
what the donations have gone to,and I want to say that's going
to find out about results of the, what the donations have gone
to, and I want to say that'sgoing to be probably the end of
june, early july, and um, it'sgoing to be amazing, trust me
yep, and we have lots, lots ofnew projects in the works.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
So, yes, we will continue to grow and expand and
and also, whenever you're readyto.
We haven't needed tospecifically purposefully ask
for a specific fundraiser as yet, but we'll never say never,
we'll just keep growing.
Keep on keeping on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah, ken's channel, happy chat.
What guitars you got?
I have 15.
I have a problem, lol.
I'm Malcolm in an ACDC and KKDowning in a Judas Priest
tribute.
Well, with 15 guitars, you gotto do something with all that.
I have two guitars in thebackground, and one was my

(01:03:42):
father's bass guitar.
He has since passed away, but Iput that up in memory of him
and the other one is a guitarthat I was given for my birthday
that is signed by Depeche Mode.
And then I do have some otherones that I'm putting up.
I'm just running out of realestate in this small room, so I
got to figure that one out.
But thank you for that, ken.

(01:04:02):
I appreciate that.
Felipe B says happy, super chat.
Thank you for that, Felipe B.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Thank you for Felipe.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Ken.
Maggie, I'm loving the idea ofMike Ritter bobblehead Ken as in
Barbie.
Okay, oh, like she wants anoutfit, I think, marilyn, I
think that's an outfit request,scott.
Thank you for the super chat.
You know what I got so excitedabout warning us about the
giveaway, that we're fourminutes over the giveaway.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
And we're almost at 2,200 people.
So, yay.
What are you giving away thistime, honey?

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
I'm going to do whatever they want.
If you want a book or if youwant merch, it'll be book or
merch anything in the BFG store.
So it doesn't matter what youwant, because if you win, you
get to pick something and thensend us a link of the thing that
you want and then we'll justsend you a link back that allows

(01:04:56):
you to redeem that for free.
It's a very seamless operationand if you're, I'm flipping over
to the live chat here.
If you want this, it's four ohfive my time.
So if you want this, you get upin that.
Uh, get in the chat.
And uh, I know Goldie does notlike it when I say this, but

(01:05:18):
blow up that chat.
Blow up that chat.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
That should always almost be a merch.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
I don't want to say this is a fact, but I I think
I've noticed that a lot of thewinners, a majority of them, are
subscribers.
I think it just gives them anedge in their overall luck, kind
of karma situation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Somehow, as the comments fly by, they jump out
at you.
Is that what sometimes?
The, sometimes the ones thatare subscribers I go I've seen
that name before and it getskicked I never used to believe
in giveaways until we starteddoing them and I started
actually sending people stuffand I was like, oh, you can
actually this does can actuallywork.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yeah, I love it.
So what I do, guys, is thecomments are going, I literally
just spin the wheel and I just Iclick on one.
I like to do a countdown.
So I'm going to start doing thecountdown now, and when I hit
one, I'm going to pick something.
That's how it's going to rolland we're going to do it that

(01:06:16):
way.
You ready, guys?
Ready?
Five, four, three, two and one.
More Bobo, more Bobo.
That's funny.
I know a guy named Bobo thatwas on another show I used to
watch Pick me.

(01:06:37):
I closed my first real estatedeal today.
Well, you got it, you got it.
More Bobo, you win.
You got it.
More Bobo, you win.
So all you got to do is you gotto email Claire at
blownforgoodcom with a link fromthe BFG store of what item you
want, and Claire will send youback a link that says redeem it.

(01:06:59):
And then you just say yes, youput in your data and you just,
it just sends it to you for free.
No shit, you don't have to payfor shipping, you don't have to
pay for the item.
Just, it's, it's, it's seamless, it's really seamless.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
It's a good system.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Thank you more, bobo.
I appreciate it.
Sorry to everybody else whodidn't win.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
I don't know if you're also participating.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Yeah, thank you for trying.
And also more, bobo.
You better subscribe, okay,because I made that whole big
spiel about the subscribers.
So you better subscribe, sothat I was right about that.
Okay, let's get back to thestarred chats here.
Scott, thank you for that.
Scott, rachel, xoxo, uk fromHighlands of Scotland, thanks

(01:07:43):
for all you do.
Well, thank you, rachel.
We appreciate it.
We're going to.
We're going to get over therepretty soon.
We've got a lot of family overthere and the kids are itching
to go over there.
We're, this summer's a littlejammed up, but next summer we
might be able to make somethinghappen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah, or maybe even Christmas.
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Yeah, mac D, dark clouds have been gathering over
Scientology for decades and oh,brother, it's starting to rain.
Yeah, there's definitely um, wejust saw a bunch of lightning
today in our uh and some of thethings that we're dealing with.
So, yeah, they're.
They're definitely um.
Osa has is gonna be busymetalhead.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
How Scientology sorry , pause for a second purple,
groovy 69.
Uh, send me an email.
The the last giveaway we did so.
You guys know, every time wereach a thousand, the next
thousand subscriber mile count.
So, for example, we hit 33,000a little bit ago.
The person I chose did notemail me back.

(01:08:41):
So I see you're asking for abook.
Email me and you win a book, asigned book.
So there you go.
All right, keep going, honey,sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Metalhead says how can Scientology lie about
written policies that peoplealready know?
Didn't they have to presenttheir policies on paper to the
court?
Well, that's exactly the thing.
Scientology would not offer upa Scientology expert.
This is the ridiculous thing ofthis whole thing.
A Scientology expert this isthe ridiculous thing in this
whole thing.
Scientology you'd think they'dhave an expert witness that

(01:09:11):
could testify on Scientology,but the problem is is that
Scientologists are taught how toprofessionally lie.
There's actually there actuallyis training routines and it's
called a training routine andthey go like one through.
What is it nine?
yep there's a whole bunch oftraining routines.

(01:09:32):
One of them is called trl andit's teaches a scientologist how
to lie and you don't pass doingthis.
It's a drill like.
You practice it over and overand over again.
You're not allowed to pass thedrill until you can effectively
lie.
That is the stated endphenomena of the drill.
When a person passes the drillwhen they can easily and what

(01:09:54):
does it say?
And it says and easily andfacially lie.
That's what it actually says inthe writing.
So Scientology is not able toput up their own witness because
the prosecution knows they'rejust going to lie.
So they need to get somebodywho's not in Scientology to be
the expert on Scientology, andreally I mean.

(01:10:14):
Correct me if I'm wrong, claire.
You just read their references.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
It's not like Claire made up a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Yeah, my testimony was the policies of Scientology
and firsthand witness.
You know firsthand experienceas to seeing those policies
applied.
It was equal parts, but yeah,absolutely, and factor in, I
only quoted the policies Icurrently have access to.

(01:10:45):
There are thousands more that Ijust simply don't have access
to.
They're not available in thepublic domain and, for that
matter, they're not available toScientologists in general.
They're only available to uppermanagement people in
Scientology.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yeah, Okay.
Sunday night 7 am, Mondaymorning Great wake up.
Well, I mean, we can't be inall time zones at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
No, sorry, but thanks for being here.
We appreciate you.
We try to cater to all timezones.
It's just a little challengingsometimes sometimes um lightning
fan.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
For lightning fan says question claire bear on
aaron's channel talking aboutshelly jackson said dave knew
she would blow question beginsat first.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I've ever heard she wanted to leave any thoughts yes
, I saw that and um, andabsolutely there was.
There's a few differentinstances and we'll get to
talking to those.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
So yeah, there's an interview.
There's going to be a Shellyinterview that's specifically
about Shelly, with Jackson andwith many other people there's,
I think we've done me Mike, Amyand Leah's coming on Tuesday and
then we've got a whole bunchmore and we probably have at
least once a week for the nextseveral months.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
We're going to have a where Shelly video and these
are people that worked withShelly, that knew Shelly and had
interactions with Shelly, sowe're trying to give and if you,
as a viewer, fall into thatcategory and we have not already
spoken, then please reach outto me, because we are going to
continue on this question untilwe have an answer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Yes, cg Paul SLP says how is Mike worried about him?
Courtney, yes, we put a link inthe description to a post that
Christie did on Mike Rinder's onhis blog.
His wife did and it's in thedescription below.
You can take a look at that andthat's the current update.
That, as of I think that cameout this morning.
I want to say yes.

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Felipe B says Mark, has DM everseen your DM tattoo?
Yeah, he thought it was hisinitials when he saw it and I
had to correct him saying Idon't think so that's Depeche
Mode.
So yes, he has seen it.
I'm in Tampa, if I can doanything for the renders.
We've missed our headlies andare happy you're back, but glad

(01:13:15):
you had family time.
Thank you, lori, we appreciateit.
I don't think we need any.
I don't think we're not doingany meal trains or whatever
they're called.
We're not doing anything likethat just yet.
But we'll let you know if,trust me, if we need something,
we're going to ask for it.
We're not, we're not afraid we.
We do things for people all thetime, all the time.

(01:13:37):
So when we need help, we ain'tafraid to ask.
If we need some help, we'regoing to say, hey, listen, we're
uh, you know I got broadshoulders, but I can't carry all
this.
I need some people to come overhere and help me out here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Yeah, caroline made very clear that we are at Mike
and Christie's full disposal tohelp with whatever they need, as
has many other, as have manyother people.
But we will definitely keep youposted.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Yeah, dynamic duo, mark and Claire, truly making a
difference in this world.
Great work, helping clear onefrom the streets of LA, but for,
oh, let's say, 30 to yeah, well, we are definitely helping
people get out.
I think that's what that's.
In reference to hearing from alot more people inside

(01:14:29):
Scientologists, we've beenhearing from staff members that
are at their organizations.
We've been hearing from memberswho are trying to leave
successfully without losingtheir family.
That's really the trick inScientology.
The trick is the trick's notleaving Scientology.
It's easy to leave Scientology.
All you got to do is come on apodcast or come on a video and
say I was in Scientology, you'redone, you're out.

(01:14:50):
The trick is to get out and notlose your family or not lose
your business or not lose yourlivelihood.
So we're trying to help peopleexit, but exit with their lives
intact.
And for those that are not ableto do that, we're here to help

(01:15:10):
them start their lives over, ifthey need to, with whatever
resources.
So that's the other thing is,if you can't leave with your
family, you can't leave withyour business, but you, you, for
your own sanity sake, youcannot stay and keep working for
Scientology, or you can't keepcontributing to the abuse or
whatever it is.
That is exactly why theAftermath Foundation is there to

(01:15:33):
be able to have the resourcesfor those people who couldn't
exit with their family orcouldn't keep their job, or
couldn't stay in the same townor whatever it is.
So we're trying to doeverything we can.
Miss Pillow, 100% team Mike.
Anything we can do, please letus know, holding Mike, his

(01:15:55):
family and friends in our heartsand sending them all love.
Yes, thank you for that WigglyWoo reference to Mike.
I promise I'll be positive andsupportive going forward, but
for right now I'm going to havemyself a good little cry,
setting strength and strongbelief for the best.
Yeah, it's okay, that's okay tocry.
It's sad, it's not the happiestnews we've got, but uh, you

(01:16:16):
know, if there's a way out we'llget.
We're going to get out.
We're going to make it, make itto the other side.
Uh, nikki G says thank you foreverything.
Glad you all took some time offand got recharged.
I know your time in Scientologymake you cherish family time
praying for Mike.
Yes, thank you for that, nikkiG.
Yeah, I think I'm going to addanother Claire to the stream.

(01:16:36):
I'm going to get rid of thisClaire because I had a frozen
Claire in the stream and thatClaire was no fun, so adding
this other Claire that movesaround much better.
Again, old Claire.
Sorry about that.
This is old Claire.
See, look at that, she's evengiving me a dirty eye.
So we're going to get rid ofher and just have this one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
I was like what the heck happened?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
From now on I'm just going to keep like not what I
want, what I want, not good.
Oh my gosh.
Good, okay, good, thank you forthat.
I was like where'd Claire go?
Oh, well, and then I saw youpop up in another window.
I was like, oh, she's comingback in in another one here.
Yes, nikki G, oh, you alreadyshowed that one.
Sorry, I got mind wiped byhaving multiple Claires.

(01:17:21):
Moonlampy says just a smallcontribution, because you're
also super adorable.
Thanks for all that you do.
Keep up the good work.
Your videos keep me sane nowthat my life is a roller coaster
.
Love from the Netherlands.
Xoxo, monique.
Well, thank you, monique.
I appreciate that and I'm gladthat we could be some sort of
small beacon of light inwhatever darkness you're
involved with.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Stay strong.
You got this.
We are here for the long haul.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Ruthie, you got this.
We are here for the long haulruthie r super chat, or whatever
they call that super sticker.
I always call this super chat.
It's a super sticker, whetherhe wants it or not.
Novenas are going for mike,novenas, novenas are going from.
Whether he wants it or not,novenas are going for mike
already.
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
And and hummingbird, but we should know, but we grew
up in a cult, so yeah, sorryabout that.
We'll look it up, thank you forthe super chat.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Second, listen to your book.
What happened to your childhoodfriends that went to the SO
before you?
Are they still in?
And Claire?
Yes, ashley, and you did greatin sticking with the interview.
Perfect Stacey.
I have talked to some of mychildhood friends, but the ones
that joined this Sea Orc beforeme one is still at the

(01:18:35):
international headquarters.
Him and his wife tried toescape many years ago and they
were caught and they weredragged back so he wanted to get
out.
This is Jesse Radstrom.
If you guys are wondering, um,I talk a lot about him in my
book and um, he was my bestfriend when I was uh, uh,
younger, um, probably like 12 to15, I want to say Um, and he

(01:19:02):
did try to escape with his wife.
Um, and they were caught.
They had a, he had a vehicle,he had to pack it up with all
their stuff and they said at thebase is a highway that divides
the property.
And they said they're justdriving through one gate to go
to the other side of theproperty.
And then, when they got ontothe highway, they were just

(01:19:23):
going to hightail it and theguard booth were like okay, just
wait there, we're not going toopen the gate.
Just wait there, a guard'sgoing to come down.
A guard came down, opened upthe back of their car and all
their stuff was there and theywere like, get out, you guys are
done, that's it.
So, yeah, he tried to escapeand he got intercepted, which is

(01:19:50):
really a bummer, because Ireally really would have loved
for him to get out of there.
He, um jesse, was in religioustechnology center with claire.
Um, claire was in religioustechnology center.
So was he, and then he gotkicked out and then he got put
into the division that I workedin where we did the video and
film work and then eventually,just by people getting sent away
or people escaping, he actuallyrose to the top and became I

(01:20:11):
think he was the commandingofficer of Golden Arrow
Productions at one point yeah,he was, and when he tried to
escape he was actually the headof their media organization.
When he tried to escape and hegot intercepted.
So it's a bummer.
Quentin Hubbard says what'syour favorite airplane?
That is a very random question.

(01:20:33):
Is that because, claire, yousaw a video of Claire flying a
plane, taking off in a planethat was a Cirrus SR22 Turbo,
that Claire was flying, that Iwas showing the video of her,
but that is a pretty cool plane,but I don't know if it's.
I don't really have a favoriteairplane.
Do you have a favorite airplane?

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Nope, the other one I flew was a DA40NG.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
And what brand is that one?

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Diamond.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Yeah, I don't know about that.
Claireire updates.
You would not believe some ofthe stuff that claire does as
part of her job.
She updates airplane avionicsand does hangar stuff and tugs
and small cirrus planes anddiamond planes, and you she's?
She doesn't.
She has a whole nother lifebesides this nonsense that we're
doing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Thank you, I appreciate what they'd call it
Jane of all trades.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Yes, michelle McIntosh.
Hey, did you guys see?
Did you guys see Aaron postabout Shelly Miscavige and the
psychic?
She said that Shelly was up inheaven with Kirstie Alley and L
Ron Hubbard LOL.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Yeah, I think that was I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
I think that was more of a joke.
I don't think anybody reallybelieves that If she was, we
would have some sort of reportthat that happened, like there
would be a public document inmost cases when that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
And if she is, then both she and L Ron Hubbard are
AWOL, because they were supposedto come back and pick up a new
body and resume theirbillion-year contract.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
So that would be a no report.
Yes, janine Greider says.
Claire, your interview withAshley Banfield was great.
Also, is Mike?
Okay the link in thedescription for the Mike info
and you can talk about theinterview.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Thank you, I appreciate you watching.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Oh, perfect, scott, if Shelly passed away.
Could Scientology keep thathidden?
Not likely, because unless theymoved her somewhere like she's
in, we suspect that she's up inBig Bear or near Big Bear, in a
town called Crestline or LakeArrowhead or Rim of the World

(01:22:51):
it's different names dependingon what you know exactly where
you're talking about.
But if people there's been alot of people that look for
death certificates look throughthe records to see, they search
the records based on people thatwe think might be getting up
there that they would pass away,and they would look in the
county where these places arelocated, and no one has found

(01:23:12):
any in Riverside County,california or San Bernardino
County, I think those are.
Both of those are in thosecounties.
I don't know if Big Bear or Rimof the World or Crestline,
whatever they're calling it.
I'm pretty sure that's also SanBernardino County.
But whatever County it's in,people have been checking and

(01:23:33):
there hasn't been any publicrecords.
So unless they move her to somerandom County in another state,
it's hard to it's hard to know.
It's hard to know.
Alicia Medley says well, signwill currently.
Will currently sign currently.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Scientologists see the press release DM put out,
what will they think?
Knowing what DM says is 100% islies.
Team Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, so that's what we were talking about earlier,
guys, if they do put out well,they did, they already did it.
They put out a statement whichI'm going to say Ninety nine
point nine percent of allScientologists know that that's
a 100 percent lie, like theyjust know it's.
It's, it's in their policies.
Don't report us to civilauthorities, police are civil

(01:24:24):
authorities.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Oh and, by the way, side comment no-transcript.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Yeah, that's what has his language.
Also, corinne Powell hasn'twritten anything, I'm going to
say, in years that's been of anyconsequence.
She doesn't even speak English.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
She English is her second publicly.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Yeah, she, and she is not highly regarded it within
OSA or by David Miscavige at all.
He doesn't like her.
He talks and he talks smackabout her all the time when we
were there when it was like, oh,this is needs to get handled,
oh, great Corinne, what's shegoing to?
You know that's that's.
It's disdain.

(01:25:05):
He actually has disdain for allI think I want to say almost
all of the OSA staff.
He has communicated that theirjobs are coming to him to do and
that's why, when you see allthese things that are written,
he's writing it and he'scomplaining the entire time,
telling them you guys are makingme write this because you can't

(01:25:27):
write something that's sensible.
Meanwhile, he's writing thingsthat are completely nonsensible.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Yep exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Yeah, no, it is a.
It's a world of crazy there,guys, I hate to break it to you.
It is a world to create crazythinking.
Uh, ms Pillow, again thank you,thanking all SPTV for coverage
of DM trial.
Justice for the victims issweet, though SA.
Uh, assault effects can belifelong.
Nonetheless must believevictims first, not the power

(01:25:55):
structures like Scientology etcetera.
Excuse me, special thanks toClaire from Assault Survivor.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Wow, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Yeah Again, guys, this is not about this, not
about us.
It's never been about us, andwe have repeatedly said this is
about the victims of Scientology.
We're doing all this so thosepeople can escape and start over
without having to wait.
That's the.
You can always make more money,you can always get a car, you

(01:26:27):
can buy a house, you can go onvacation.
We can't get more time.
Time is the only thing we can'tget more of.
You can't buy more time, andwhen you're in Scientology, it's
just a time suck.
You're throwing away time.
That's all you're doing.
It's not I mean the moneypeople that have given them
millions of dollars.

(01:26:47):
That's unfortunate, but thefact that those guys are giving
them decades as well.
That's the real.
That's the only thing I wishsomebody would have told me.
Like you know, one year ininstead of 15 years in, you
can't get that time back.
So we're trying to help thesepeople.
We're trying to get them alittle extra time to themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
And sometimes, sometimes, actually often,
fairly often we find ourselvesin positions of having to do
some really hard things, butit's never an option not to.
We will always stand up.
We will always support people.
We will always be here to helppeople leaving Bottom line.
End of story.
No questions asked.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Yes, Luna3120 says.
I wouldn't expect you two to bein the same room.
My husband and I are computergamers gamers and we have our
own setups.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Luna, I got to tell you a great story.
You were just reminding me,here it comes.
So when we first got out and we,when we were, it was, I want to
say it was like 2006.
We were living in Burbank and Iused to I love, I used to love
playing video games and I had agamer and all that good stuff
and I used to love to play thisgame called Call of Duty and I

(01:28:03):
would play it a bunch.
And Claire was pregnant with ourfirst child and we wanted to or
we had just had our by thistime, I think we, actually by
the time we lived in Burbank, weactually had, um, our first son
was born and I'd be playinggames and Claire would be around
the house and I would, um, youknow, I had projects I was

(01:28:25):
working on, but, um, she wantedto play call of duty too.
So I set up her computer on theother side of we had an office
that we both shared.
I said, okay, you set up overthere and I'll set up over here.
And then I was like, and then Ithought you know what?
I got a good idea, cause you'rejust learning how to play.
I'm going to teach you how toplay, but at first you should
just be my spot.
So I'm going to be on theallied forces team You're going

(01:28:47):
to be on the other team I had tobe.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
How to do this?

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
You just tell me where those guys are hiding so I
can shoot them, but you'regoing to be on the team of the
guys I'm shooting.
Anyway, we did this for a while.
It was tons of fun and Clairegot to learn how to play and all
this other stuff.
One day we go to log on,there's a note that says you
have been banned from the Callof Duty service.
They found out that we wereboth on the same IP address and

(01:29:17):
we were on different teams.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
I was like yeah, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
That's some.
In some circles that'sconsidered cheating, anyway.
So yeah, we like having ourseparate setups here.
Thank you for that, luna.
Okay, I'm going to try to ripthrough as many of these as
possible, because we don't havea lot of time left.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Well, let's do a giveaway now and then a giveaway
in 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
I'll give you a 10 minute extension since it's 4 30
oh, it's already 4 30 okay, soget up in the chat, guys if you
want um.
Uh, yes, I also used to playdoom and that is where the
ultimate bfg is in doom.
Um, I just saw that in one ofthe comments.
Um, if you want um some merch,you gotta get in the comments.

(01:30:01):
Or if you want a book, a blownfor good book, you could say
book me.
You could say merch me, um,whatever you want.
Um, you could say anything youwant, but book me and merch me
are the ones I'm going torespond to, because we're trying
to keep this civil, you knowyou can say Bob.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
And speaking of merch , we have a new Theta potato
line coming shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Oh, my goodness, oh my goodness, theta potatoes.
Okay, five, four, three, twoand one Cheryl Texacana.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Texacana.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Texacana, texacana, cheryl, texacana, me, me, me.
Okay, well, you got me me me'd.
If you want to send an email toClaire at Blown For Good and go
to the Blown For Good store thelink is in the description, or
the Blown for Good shop,whatever it's called Go in there
and pick out something you likeand then email a link to that.

(01:31:05):
Declare it Blown for Good dotcom and she will send you a link
so that you can get it.
Look at Cheryl, me, me, me.
Cheryl's still going.
I'm seeing like 17 moreCheryl'sls.
Cheryl, you won, it's done, youwon.
Oh my gosh, cheryl, please,cheryl, there's.
Cheryl might be one of thesepeople that colby was, uh,

(01:31:26):
getting excited about.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Um she, she finally saw, she says oh my gosh, I saw,
she did.
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Oh, there we go, there you go.
She got it tell you.
I don't know if that's whatpaid off or not, cheryl, but I
did see many, many, many cheryls.
Um, thank you for that.
Okay, I'm going to try to getback to these questions.
Thank you for that, cheryl.
Thank you for participating.
Um, michelle carpenter markquestion do you think that

(01:31:55):
finding yourself in the positionyou were in towards the end and
finding you were good, capableand enjoyed it, help your
decision to blow for good?
No, I'll tell, I'm not tryingto be egotistical or I'm not

(01:32:24):
trying to be rude or I'm nottrying to pump myself up, but of
the people that were there, Iwas pretty much a rock star.
I was getting a lot of stuffdone, no matter what area I got
put into.
That area ended up doing goodafter I was in charge of it or
after I was doing stuff in there.
Sure, I did things.

(01:32:44):
Dave Miscavige didn't like everyonce in a while and pissed him
off, but for the most part I wasa producer.
I was a mover and a shaker, soto speak.
So the fact that I gave them 15years of moving and shaking and
they were still willing tothrow me under the bus for some
stupid thing that I didn't evendo.
That was the kind of thing thattipped me to like you know what

(01:33:07):
?
These guys do not appreciate me, they don't care about me, they
don't care about myrelationship, because they're
always trying to keep Claire andI apart and they're trying to
convince her of divorcing meevery second week.
So I was, you know, I was likeyou know what.
Anything would be better thanthis.
I'm out and I 100% knew Clairewould not come with me.
She would have 100% ratted meout.

(01:33:29):
So the fact that I escaped andthen she contacted me, it was a
better scenario to get her outthan if I would have tried to
convince her to come with me.
Because that takes a lot.
To escape, you have to bewilling to get caught and and
still try to escape.
But if you do get caught, it isthey make it almost nearly

(01:33:52):
impossible for you escape asecond time.
It takes years and years foryou to gain their trust back to
where you'll have another chanceto escape.
So when you do it, you got todo it.
Is that safe?
Is that accurate there, babe?

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Yeah, gothenburg is in the same building, door to
door, as Sweden's oldest andlargest gay bar.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Oh my, goodness, that's amazing.
That's awesome 1.1.
1.1 covert hostility.
Yes, that's awesome.
Emotional tone scale.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
That's the best.
Thank you for that Arnie yes,or Arna Greg Watkins.
So how long before Scientologyclaims that Mike's illness is
because of being an SP?
Oh, I don't know that theywould ever.
That's a good question.
I don't know that they'd ever.
You know, I wouldn't put itpast them to stoop so low as to
be to.

(01:34:47):
You know, serve up somenonsense like that, but in the
Sea.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Org.
We'll be here if they do such astupid thing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Yeah, In the Sea Org it is very popular because L Ron
Hubbard smoked and DavidMiscavige smokes.
It's very popular to smokeinside the Sea Organization.
I think Mike was in the Sea Org.
Was he in like 40 somethingyears or whatever it was?

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
It was a lot of years , a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
And a lot of those years was smoking.
So there are a lot there.
I keep saying somebody shoulddo a study.
I don't know how you could, butthere's a lot of Sea Org
members and even Scientologistsas well.
When they get up to the highestlevels of Scientology, cancer
gets them.
It's a weird thing.
I don't know if it's thesmoking.

(01:35:35):
I don't know if it's thesmoking.
I don't know if it's all theniacin and all the vitamins and
all the horrible supplements youtake, the overdose of calcium
and magnesium that they're doingon a regular basis.
I'm not sure what it is, but itseems like, of the people that
I know in the real world and thepeople that I know in
Scientology, a very hugepercentage of the people that I

(01:35:56):
hear about that pass away inscience and the Scientology
world that I knew it's almostit's.
I would say 90% of them is fromcancer, some sort of cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Yeah.
And somebody asked ifScientology will let Mike's kids
know, and the answer isaffirmatively no, they will not
know his children.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
No, yeah, affirmatively no, they will not
let his children know.
Yeah, Elizabeth, thank you forthe super sticker.
I appreciate that.
I'm trying to get to as many ofthese as I can.
Oh, my goodness, See Assy, SeeAssy.
Isaac Just wanted to say thankyou for all you do.
Hashtag bike strong.
Thank you very much for that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Cassie.
I appreciate it.
Now in the coffee cults andcrafts group people call her
Casey all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
Kendalings.
Claire, are you ever able toslip into a British accent and
do you think your mom wouldleave if she could?

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Wow, and do you think your mom would leave if she
could?
I can't, no, I can't.
There are certain words that Ican't say right, such as tour
and sixth, but I cannot do itand I always, only ever, wanted
an American accent, which is whyI worked so hard to get one.
And my mom would leave if shedivorced my stepfather or if he

(01:37:21):
passed away, and other than that, no, she wouldn't.
And even then, yeah, she.
Well, anyway, it's fine.
The last time I saw her I loveyou, Mom she hugged me and said
she hoped to see me again soon.
So that just illustrates 100%that disconnection is about

(01:37:42):
control, leverage and destroyingfamilies.
Period.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Yes, okay, nancy, ives, claire, loving the lives
with you and Amy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Yay, thank you.
I will not be on the live onWednesday because, as I've
mentioned, we'll be traveling toLA.
Didn't quite have the foresightto look ahead to my Wednesdays,
but that's all right, I'mgetting better.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Jackie super sticker.
Thank you for that, Jackie.
Appreciate that.
No more cults.
I'm glad Christy did an updatefor mike, happy to hear the
doctors have a path to help him.
My christian family know youhave major sptv support
absolutely yes, completely um,reese, reese, reese, um, love

(01:38:31):
you guys, love you guys and yourmerch.
Well, thank you.
We have been getting a lot ofum, uh, favorable comments on
the merch and people are sendingus If you got merch and you
like it, send us a picture ofyou with the merch.
And yeah, we want to see whateverybody's wearing out there,
so confusing Ken's.
Ken's channel says E-meter tocatch lying and training how to

(01:38:53):
lie.
Mind blown.
Scientology Only truth is lies.
So nice, you have a base fromdead.
Yes, ken, thank you for that.
Yeah, you know, that's theother thing and this is a crazy
thing in Scientology.
So when you're in Scientologyand something bad happens to you
, it's because you have donesomething wrong.

(01:39:14):
That's it.
You've done something wrong andthat's it.
There's no question.
It's you did something, oryou're withholding something, or
if anything bad happens to you,you did something wrong.
When things that, uh, whenScientology has wrong things
happen to them, it's never them.
They've never done anything.

(01:39:34):
It's the craziest thing thatthey always say the person who's
getting in trouble, the personthis is happening to, it's
always something they did andthey have evil thoughts or they
have evil deeds, but whenScientology gets in trouble,
it's everybody else.
We never did anything.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
It's a big misunderstanding.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
Yes, ms Pillow, 100% xenophobic.
Yes, there we go I get itxenophobic.
Yeah, no, xenu's a good guy.
Let's not forget Xenu, lordXenu, our savior, hail Xenu.
He is the he's Scientology'sLex Luthor, essentially, or

(01:40:16):
Thanos, he's Scientology'sThanosuthor essentially, or
Thanos he's Scientology's Thanos.
Okay, that's it.
That's a better he's Lord.
He's a galactic, intergalacticoverlord.
Lord Zinu, okay, this guy's nota, this guy's not small fry.
This guy transported billionsof people a place that took nine
weeks to get here at lightspeed.

(01:40:37):
Okay, that's not a small task.
There's a lot of logisticsinvolved with that and a lot of
technology that we don't haveaccess to.
So if Xenu is real whichScientologists think he is real
the ones who've done OT levelthree and above they know about
Xenu and his superpowers and allthis other stuff he has access

(01:40:57):
to.
And if you believe that and youthink a four foot 13 guy named
Dave is gonna over, outdo thisintergalactic overlord that's
where I think you're is you havemisplaced ideas.
I don't think that's how it'sgonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
So, yes, all yes, all right, five minute warning
honey.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Five minute warning.
I'll do this as long as I want.
Hey, mark Depeche Mode was onthe smart list.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Yes, I saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
I saw that, Angel.
Thank you Pick me.
My first real estate deal wastoday.
I did pick you.
That was from earlier when Ipulled it up.
I want a mug that says oh mygoodness, they're similar.
We can do that.
Put it on the list.
If I see you writing, I know itmight happen.
Michelle R, what would have tohappen to make Scientology

(01:41:44):
release everyone from their SPstatus and allow families to
reunite?
Oh, there would have to be acataclysmic event where David
Miscavige is no longer in chargeof Scientology.
There's no way, david MiscavigeDavid, I have, if I get to it.
We've been doing so much and wehave this special project that
we've been working on.
But in one of the spy filesthere's 5,000 spy files, by the

(01:42:08):
way, guys, I have 30 that are onme, there's 5,000 total but in
one of those that I was lookingthrough the other day, they
actually list out the staff thatthey're getting rid of and
they're going to throw away liketrash and they're talking trash
about them in the documentswhere they're saying we're going
to throw this person out.
They don't care about theirmembers at all, not at all.

(01:42:28):
It's all about the money.
They don't care if they get tosee their families again.
That's like that's not apriority.
To see their families again,that's like that's not a
priority.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Um amish seeks or me me is sheiks, me me is seeks.
Noob to the channel.
I hope that I can ask ascientology question please.
Do the big time celebs gothrough auditing and the bridge,
and how come lrh had to do asecret takeover of Gio he's LRH?
Could you not just say you'reall gone?

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
It's a lot of questions there, mish.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Yes, well, thanks for joining us.
Me is seeks.
Yes, you can ask a Scientologyquestion.
Yes, the celebs go throughauditing and the bridge they're
required to do that Take over ofthe GEO.
That's because 12 people wereput in prison, so they had to

(01:43:25):
disband the Guardian's officeand get rid of it and put a new
replacement structure that doesall the same things, just has a
new name, which is Office ofSpecial Affairs.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Yeah, they didn't.
Yeah, exactly that's.
That's a good answer.
Hopefully we answered yourquestion.
Satisfactory destiny I'm notbig into classic prayers, but
change my profile pick andsolidarity for Mike.
Much love to him and his family.
Thank you for that destiny, andshe has a little bobblehead
Mike, that's very amazing.

(01:43:59):
Come visit Shetland Island,scotland.
Okay, angel, hey, awesome, putit on the list.
Put it on the list, claire.
Write it down.
Yes, I did.
Apollonia Paradise Holy crap,you guys have a lot of great new
merch.
We do.
We have a really do.
Most of it is suggestions fromyou guys.
And also, if you have asuggestion and you want us to do
something, but you're acreative and you can work your

(01:44:22):
way around Photoshop or InDesignor whatever you use to crank
out artwork, send it to us.
If it's great and we like it,clara will email you back and we
will.
We'll make it into something.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
And let me interject.
Clara is in the chat.
Hey, Clara, we love you.
Somebody just made an amazingsuggestion, which is that we do
a Team Mike mug and I willactually put that on Mike's
merch channel on his platformbecause I have access to do that
.
So, Clara, if you could bumpthat to the top of your priority

(01:44:56):
list, that would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Yeah, we'll put that up on Mike's channel and then if
you guys want to support Mikeand his family, you can just go
over there and get a Team Mikemug and you can donate there and
you can donate on Mike Rinder'sblog.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
They haven't asked for that, but it's not going to
hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
I don't think they're going to get mad at us for
sending people over there to buya mug.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
I think it would be okay or to donate, or to donate
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
On the way we have our merch store set up.
You can just buy merch, or youcan just make a straight
donation, or you can buy merchand then you know say, put the
rest towards a donation,whichever way you guys want to
do it.
But yeah, we should do that forMike's channel, let's get that
going.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
Yeah, Clara already answered.
She's on it.
She's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Yes, perfect, Miss Pillow, again, your videos are
so helpful to understandingScientology and cult slash power
structure abuses.
Your sunny dispositions andhumor make it very digestible
cracker licking or not.
By the way, I'm xenophobic.
I don't know what this means.
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
I'm an anthropocritical.
Thank you, Ms Pillow.
We appreciate it.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Oh, right here, Ripley fought the xenomorph in
Aliens.
Oh, wow, ah Wow, okay, so I getit.
Yeah, that's not a good thing.
Those are bad guys.
We don't like those guys.
Those guys, lord Xenu, thoseguys not the same, not the same.
Lord Xenu was just a.

(01:46:30):
He was, he's just an overlord.
He doesn't have acid for blood.
Okay, thank you, ken's channelum.
Best wishes, mike rinder, staypositive and lots of love coming
your way.
Thank you, k appreciate that,panko.
Thanks for letting us know aboutmike.
Fans may want to check out hisblog link and maybe donate.
Yeah, we just said, panko.

(01:46:51):
Just we'll put a link in thedescription for mike.
We'll make a note.
Put a link in the descriptionfor Mike.
We'll make a note.
Put a link in the descriptionto Mike's store and then, as
soon as we have the Team Mikemug up in his store, we might
make those a little teeny bitmore expensive so that they can
raise some funds, because we'reselling a lot of this stuff.
We're not selling it, we'rekeeping the prices pretty low.

(01:47:13):
We're not trying to make abunch of money off the merch.
So we might make that mug alittle higher price than the
regular mugs.
But thanks for that PankoMisbehaving for Goldie's coffee
fund.
Oh, you got to make a note,it's got to go to Goldie.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Goldie needs her coffee.
I will do that right after this.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
Yep, okay, and Rocky Road Xenomorph is an alien
parasite, so body, yes, I get it.
Rocky road, thank you, um, yeah, um, xenomorph.
That's so funny.
Bellalotta, everyone wishes thatthey had a goldie to keep the
bs away.
I deal with it every day and Iwish I had a goldie.
I know I don't even know aboutthe bs because of goldie.

(01:47:49):
There could be bs and I justI'm just not aware of it.
I also I'm kind of um, I'm kindof like whatever, when people,
when people get you know, peoplewant to you know, like all the
Scientology trolls on Twitter, Isee it and I go, oh, this is
not good for you guys.
Like when they posted thatstatement, I was like, oh, this
is going to, this is going tobackfire horribly.

(01:48:11):
I mark my words.
Lisa Dunn, again, slash little.
Hi.
Mark and Claire Enjoy thesechats so much and we love our
beautiful SP bracelets.
Thank you, lisa.
I got a little taken abackbecause I know another Lisa
Dunnigan.
She's married to a securityguard at the base named Danny
Dunnigan, so I did a littledouble take.

(01:48:31):
I'm sorry for that.
You must be a separate person.
We're all good.
And it's also Lisa Dunnigan,little, not.
I understand.
I understand.
I'm just saying it took me asecond to go like, wait a minute
here, blow me in Chicago, okay.
Well, there you go.
That's an idea.
I was invited to the Chicago orbarbecue.
They actually asked guests tobring a side dish to the event.

(01:48:53):
I didn't go.
Thanks for having a barbecue.
Bring some food.
That's amazing.
Got $3 billion but not enoughfor potato salad.
That's a whole new level.
Thank you for Bobble KedDonated to the aftermath.
Stay dry and hope your sumppump is working.
So Mark stays dry in thebasement.
I'm in Highlands Ranch.

(01:49:13):
Thank you, holly.
And we have a new sump pump andit's working, I hope.
But yes, it's been raining alot here.
Guys in Colorado, south Dakotaisn't really another country but
it's a flyover state so it mayas well be.
I'm here for all of SPTV.
Thank you, rural SD Lawyer.
We appreciate it.
Kaz Fern says.
Everyone posting where Shellymade me think of Depeche Mode's.

(01:49:34):
Everything Counts.
Yes, thank you very much forthat, kaz.
I appreciate it.
Hubby wears the pants, but Itell him which ones to wear.
That sounds very familiar to me.
Actually, psp Wolf Got and readmy autographed Bone for Good
book, bfg copy mug, sptv coffeemug and now using my SPTV mouse

(01:49:56):
pad.
I love them all.
Also, prayers to Mike Rinderand his family for a swift and
complete recovery.
Psp Wolf, you are mad crazywith that merch.
I got to say that's awesome.
Thank you for that.
They got everything.
They have the whole BFG deskset up.
Lm, s-e-k, oh LM, oh boy.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
This is the German quote from Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Flink wie die Windhut , sah wie leder, hart wie
Kruppstahl, as swift asgreyhounds, tough as leather,
hard as Krupp steel.
This is the quote from AdolfAdolf.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
Hitler.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Yeah from Adolf.
Wow, that's so crazy that theyhave this saying for RTC.
That's so weird that is socrazy.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Every time I think about it I get goosebumps all
over my body.
I'm like no wonder I wasfighting this so long.
I'm like how can you be hard ascold chrome steel?
It doesn't even make sense.
I'm like how can you be hard ascold chrome steel?
It doesn't even make sense.
And now I completely understandwhy it was so 100% repulsive to
me.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
That is crazy Sparky in Oregon.
Thank you for that supersticker, lily Mark, I suggested
a Kelly to play.
I just can't get enough by DM.
I think even better you couldbe singing at the end of your
Cracker Liquor ad.
Can't get enough by dm.
I think even better you couldbe singing at the end of your
cracker liquor ad.
Um, yes, unfortunately I knowall too well that depeche mode
uh has a youtube channel andthey would likely strike that.

(01:51:24):
Um, oh, sparky and organ again.
Oh no, mr bill, yes, I do uhhave a mr bill behind me
somewhere I don't know if he'sback there by dogs might have
stolen it.
Was it um novena are?
This are a series of prayers,especially in the Catholic
church.
Thank you, barbara.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
I appreciate it, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
That was in regards to that earlier comment that I
did not understand, lulu 92.
I'm fundraised walk for theAmerican lung association for
years in memory of my lategrandpa smoked his entire life.
This year I'm walking on ourmic too.
Thank you, amazing.
And for years in memory of mylate grandpa, who smoked his
entire life.
This year I'm walking in honorof Mike too.
Thank you, louie, amazing.
Thank you, shannon Graves.
I just wanted to say it's greatto see your faces.
Thank you, shannon, it's greatto see you here.
Good to see you too.

(01:52:06):
Shannon is on a full-time party.
I think she's either at aconcert or she's at an amusement
park, but there is never.
It's.
It's a lot of fun For a dullmoment.
Happy birthday to the othergraves, shannon.
Thank you for that.
Theo, theo Steichen.
Theo Steichen, Did Claire livein a house that has since been
demoed?

(01:52:26):
Did a bunch of folks live inthe house Once?
I thought you talked aboutsharing a room.
Yes, theo, thank you for that.
We lived right next to theInternational Scientology Base
in a town it's called Gilman HotSprings.
The entire town is theScientology property, but we
lived along this road calledSublet Road and there were all
these houses directly adjacentto the property and it was on a

(01:52:50):
golf course and that's wheremost of the RTC and the top
executives in the otherorganizations at the base.
They lived in these houses sothey could stay as late as
possible and still get therewithout having to wait for
travel or have transport, andalso so they'd be close, so it's
harder to escape.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
And I got to jump.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
OK, I got to jump out .

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
But I'm just going to say Clara did the team Mike
design.
I'm going to go over thereright now and add it to Mike's
merch store.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
Bye everybody, sorry, awesome guys, I'm going to stay
here and answer the last.
It's just the last fewquestions, guys.
Anyway, all of those housesthat were along the golf course,
they were all demolished, everysingle one of them.
So they're no longer there.
It's just dirt next to a golfcourse.
Lulu, I did that one.
Thank you Shannon.
Thank you Miranda.

(01:53:46):
Did you guys get new weddingrings when you left?
We actually did, we did.
We went.
I took Claire somewhere inBurbank, some jewelry store and
said pick whatever you want, weget rid of the.
The ones we had were like ahundred dollars or 200 bucks and
for the both we weren't, wedidn't have a lot of money, I
think actually, my father evenpaid for the rings that we did

(01:54:09):
have and and he wasn't he didn'thave a lot of money either, but
he still gave us a few hundredbucks to buy some rings.
We got new ones.
Roberta Alton I joined late.
Did something happen to Mike?
I hope he's okay and sendinghim prayers.
Yes, it's links in thedescription.
Roberta and his wife did anupdate on their blog, addison

(01:54:31):
and Steele.
Thank you both for everythingyou do and the whole SPTV crew.
Addison and Steele is from theSpectator series published in
1711.
My BF says it sounds likeP-star ugh, not that for sure.
My boyfriend sounds like P-starugh, I don't know what.

(01:54:52):
P-star, p-star, p-star, I don'tknow.
Anyway, addison and SteeleSounds cool.
Know, anyway, addison andSteele Sounds cool.
Thank you, addison and Steele.
I appreciate it.
Jennifer Kane, najour, goodvibes and prayers for Mike.
Sad to hear the news today.
Yes, thank you for that,jennifer.
I went to the Rockies game and,walking back to the parking lot,
I walked by Scientologybuilding all lights on and one

(01:55:15):
guy inside figured a securityguard, yeah, or the receptionist
.
Usually they do have one personin and it's just a receptionist
, but there is absolutelynothing happening there, except
for they used to give out freeparking or no.
They used to charge for parking, but they're right across from
the ballpark, so it was a goodplace if you wanted to park

(01:55:36):
there, but I think they charged20 bucks last time I went to
there and there's some otherlots around there a little
cheaper, um, but they do giveyou a little goodie bag with a
bunch of Scientology goodies init, like uh, books and stuff
like that.
Um, okay, I'm just gettingcaught up here, claire.
When will you talk about yourtrial experience?
Claire did a bunch of videos.
She recorded a bunch of videos.

(01:55:58):
I think she called them likethe diary of an expert witness
or something.
I'm pretty sure she'll dosomething we're going to.
We got a trip.
When we get back from the tripwe'll do it.
Team Mike Mugg.
Please, please, please.
Yes, claire's off working on itright now.
Elizabeth, thank you for that,claire.
Do you know that GilbertO'Sullivan song?
Claire, I Can't Help Singingwhen you're on SPTV.

(01:56:19):
Claire, I Can't Help Singing.
I don't know about that.
I'm going to save that one incase she does know about it.
Thank you for that, pam.
I love the idea of Team Mike Mug.
I bought a mug from his storethat says blah, blah.
Maybe have one of those mics.
Be on the other side of teamMike Mugg.
Yes, absolutely, jennifer.
Um, we'll get that done rightnow.

(01:56:39):
Um, and why don't they do awellness check on Shelly?
Um, I think when Leah calledthe police, they actually did do
a wellness check and they madecontact with her when she was
with her handlers.
But yeah, kat, kat, I did it.

(01:57:04):
Kat, I did it.
Gave up on winning a bobbleheadand bought one.
Will buy Mike mug to ASAP.
Please share his store Icouldn't find.
Yes, absolutely, we'll do that.
Thank you, kat, I did it.
I think that's it guys.
Here'll do that.
Thank you, can.
I did it?
Um, I think that's it guys.
Um, here's one um question.
Do either of you know Joe R DMsstepfather?

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
Joe reach.
Um, he did a very interestingwith Tony O recently.
Yeah, there's actually a bunchof um stories about Joe on
Tony's blog.
Um, over the several years agohe was pretty active talking out
and doing his story.
But yeah, he got declared asuppressive person a long time
ago and he hasn't had anycontact with his own kids or the

(01:57:50):
other Masterson kids.
Whistleblower Goodwitch sayswhat in Xenu's name is a theta
potato?
Please, oh, I don't remember.
Somebody's gonna have to tellme what episode we talked about
that.
I think it was on a live.
There was a um, there was aparking maid that was giving
scientologist tickets and therewas a scientologist who had put
quarters in the meters and hepostulated with his Scientology

(01:58:13):
superpowers.
He postulated a Theta Potato inthe tailpipe of the meter maid
and the meter maid's car brokedown outside of the organization
and a tow truck had to come andit's a whole story that went
around in Los Angeles about howthis guy made this meter maid's
car break down using his OTspecial powers and that's where

(01:58:37):
the Theta potato comes from.
Thanks for doing Valerie.
Thanks for Valerie.
Valerie is in here a lot.
I've seen her many, many timesover the past few months.
Thanks for doing a live streamon my birthday adds to my day.
Well, thank you for being here,valerie.
You didn't have to do that onyour birthday and go have fun
and go have a great birthday.

(01:58:57):
Russ T aftermath foundationquestion Do you get many people
who need help leaving becausethey're in the wrong country and
can't afford to travel?
Yeah, we just recently helpedout somebody that was in another
country and they need to getback to the United States and um
, and we helped them and we'vehelped people go to other
countries from the United States.
We've helped.
I mean I bought one earlybefore the foundation days.

(01:59:19):
I paid for a kid to go toLondon to go fight his mom and
his mom was here in the States.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay, that's the GilbertO'Sullivan one.
I'm sorry I can't ask her aboutthat right now.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
Thanks for all you guys thatwatched to the very end and it's

(01:59:43):
right, at two hours.
We just ticked to two hours,just like I said we would do,
because I know how long it takesto do this.
If you guys can remember, checkin the description for the link
to the Mike store If it's notthere now, as soon as I end this
stream, I'm going to add it tothe Mike store and if you can go

(02:00:04):
over there and pick up a teamMike mug, that would be amazing,
and otherwise we will see youguys on the next one.
And yeah, thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for watching.
If you'd like to help supportthe channel, feel free to check
out the merch store link in thedescription.
We have Hail Xenu Xenu is myhomeboy and BFG branded mouse

(02:00:27):
pads, shirts, mugs, all sorts ofother stuff in there that helps
us to bring you new content ona regular basis.
You can also pick up a copy ofmy book Blown for Good Behind
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