June 24, 2025 • 67 mins
Marc Headley unveils the grueling daily schedule of Scientology's Sea Organization members, from early morning musters to midnight cleaning sessions, and everything in between.
• Sea Org members work approximately 100-120 hours weekly for about $50 ($45 after taxes)
• Basic schedule runs from 9am to midnight daily, with additional all-nighters expected at least once weekly
• Members perform "Chinese School" at musters, reciting Scientology definitions and policies in unison
• Saturday "renovations" require all members to perform construction, maintenance, or landscaping regardless of their regular position
• Food budget for Sea Org members is approximately $1 per person per day
• Sea Org members receive less compensation and time off than prison inmates or factory workers in developing countries
• Members develop creative strategies to catch sleep, including hiding in auditing rooms where disturbance is prohibited
• David Miscavige's inspections create "chaos machines" resulting in additional work, reassignments, or punishments
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hey guys, welcome back to the channel.
Welcome to another episode ofScientology Q&A.
I'm Mark Hedley.
I'm joined today by my lovelywife's Claire's chair.
There she is, right there,claire's chair.
Claire is on a well-deservedgirls weekend and she is joining
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us in the comments today.
I was going to say, well, thecat's away, the mice will play,
and then she showed up in thecomments.
So I'm still being watched andobserved.
So yeah, if you are joining ustoday, feel free to let us know
where you're joining us from.
And today's secret word isall-nighters is all-nighters.
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We're going to be talking aboutthe Sea Org, scientology, sea
Org and the schedule that theindividual members there keep.
If you're amazed at how longthey work and what they do,
we'll talk about that when weget to the comments as well.
One of the most commonquestions that we get asked on
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our channel is what are theseSea Org members doing all day?
How could they keep busy whenScientology is continually
shrinking more and more everyyear for the past several
decades?
And we'll talk about that.
We will do a Q&A at the end.
So if you have questions thatare Sea Org schedule related,
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we'll try to answer those.
We're trying to make it so thatwe have sort of a library of
all these different Scientologysubjects and things that go on.
And so we want to try to keepthe questions that you guys ask
about the Sea Org and theschedule so that this video is,
you know, more productive, moreinformational than we would
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normally do.
So let's go through some of thecomments.
We'll see who's coming intofrom where.
We got Lapita from Texas.
Y'all Thanks for joining us.
Lapita Jerry Miller from Omaha,nebraska Good old Omaha.
Betsy Sue from Myrtle BeachThank you, betsy Sue.
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And then we've got Zenuite fromAustin, texas.
Hey, zenuite, I watch a lot ofvideos that are taking place in
Austin, Texas.
And then we got NecessaryTrouble from Glasgow, montana.
Looking forward to this.
Look at that.
This is another good chance forme to mispronounce a lot of
things, uh, that I normallywouldn't be.
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Uh, saying so, thanks for that,guys.
Uh, hello from florida.
Uh, I own pluck um.
And then, oh, here's matt dennyI think he's coming from the UK
, right, ooh, alive.
And here was me, thinking I wasgoing to bed early as I'm going
back to work tomorrow, watchingfrom Norfolk, england, looking
forward to it.
Thank you, matt.
Thank you for joining us, afrequent flyer of the channel.
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Um, I'm probably saying thatright.
I know there was a bigcontroversy on where, uh, where
and how to say that.
Out out, uh, alcester, southDakota, 1776.
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Angry, oh boy, um, hello.
Chat listening in New Hampshirewhile crafting.
Well, nice, I like that.
You know I listened to a lot ofpodcasts and uh shows when I'm
on the way to work.
I'm at I'm on a project rightnow where I have about two to
three hours to travel every dayand I use usually listen to
music.
But lately I've been putting onYouTube and different podcasts
and stuff.
Susie spoon, hi, from HunterValley, australia.
(03:58):
You know we did this video alittle later today because I got
some complaints from the downunder folks that they never get
to join lives.
So I said, okay, well, I'll doit a few hours later.
It's still early in Australia,but not so early.
Howdy from Wyoming, and oh,look at this.
Good to see you, mark, watchingfrom Monrovia, that is in
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California.
Thank you, jacob Harkey, okay,wow, we've got a lot.
Willamette, willamette,Willamette, good evening.
Everybody from central Arkansas.
From a poet, brian Lucas, okay.
And then we've got hey Neighborfrom Largo, florida.
Okay, that's a lot guys, that'sa lot.
If I missed you, I'm sorry.
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There's a lot of people from alot of places.
Hello from Chicago.
Thank you, here we go.
Do one last one Merrimack, nh.
Is that New Haven?
65 degrees, mark Hegg.
Okay, oh boy, that's a lot ofpeople.
Thank you for joining useverybody, we appreciate it.
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Again, if you want to join thegiveaway that we're doing at the
end of the video today, justtype in hashtag all nighters and
then we'll get right to it.
Let's see.
Is this the one?
Yeah, so I've got a hold ofthis schedule.
It's funny, actually.
I searched for a schedule andit just happened to be a Golden
Era production schedule, whichis where I worked for many years
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schedule, which is where Iworked for many years.
Oh yeah, another thing.
I'll just go back here for asecond.
We have, according to YouTube,we have a ton of new viewers
that are tuning in each week.
So if I do say things thatwe've covered in past videos,
it's for that reason.
But I was in the SeaOrganization.
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My name is Mark Headley.
I was in the Sea Organizationfrom 1989 is when I joined.
I was recruited for the SeaOrganization.
I grew up in Scientology and Iwas working and attending a
Scientology school in the late1980s and the school was
actually being run byScientology's C organization.
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It was called the DelphiAcademy and they are under a
group called Applied Scholasticswhich is under a group called
Able International, and AbleInternational is the social
betterment corporation ofScientology.
It runs Scientology SocialBetterment Corporations, which
they include to be AppliedScholastics.
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Narconon, which is a drugrehabilitation system developed
by L Ron Hubbard that's based onno science whatsoever and is
actually pretty unhealthy andthey've had a lot of deaths.
A group called Criminon, whichis basically just the first part
of the Narconon program.
You do the courses and stuff,but in prison, without the drug
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detox.
And then another group calledthe Way to Happiness Foundation.
And so I was attending thisschool, the Delphi Academy,
which is a Scientology-owned andrun school.
They use L Ron Hubbard, whatthey call study technology, um
and um, and they teach you a lotof Scientology in this school
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on the courses that you do.
And then, um, I was recruited.
I was 15.
I think I was.
I just had turned 16 years oldwhen I was recruited, or I was
just turning.
I was right around there, so itwas in the summer years old
when I was recruited or I wasjust turning, I was right around
there, so it was in the summerof 1989.
And I worked in Los Angeles.
I was actually recruited forthe organization that was in
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charge of the school.
So I was recruited to work atABLE International, the
Association for Better Livingand Education, which is in
charge of all those socialbetterment corporations, and I
worked there for about ninemonths and then I was
transferred to the internationalheadquarters in Gilman Hot
Springs, california, whereGolden Air Productions is
located, and I held many poststhere.
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I was a quality controltechnician, I was a systems
designer and installer,audiovisual systems designer and
installer.
I was a systems designer andinstaller, audio visual systems
designer and installer.
I was a shoot crew chief, whichis equivalent to a first
assistant director on a filmcrew.
I was a pre-production directorthat got all the costumes,
makeup, sets and props andresearch done for films.
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And then I was the.
I was an assistant producer ofall of the audiovisual products
of the internationalheadquarters at Golden Arrow
Productions and then I went onto become the executive producer
and then I was director ofAudiovisual Systems
International and then Iskedaddled, and when I
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skedaddled it was in 2000,january of 2005.
So I essentially worked at thisgolden air productions facility
in the sea organization from1989 in LA and then 1990 to 2005
.
And, um, and this schedule thatI'm going to show you is the
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bare bare minimum schedule of aSea Org member, and pretty much
all Sea Org members have aschedule that's very, very
similar to this, no matter wherethey are, if they're in another
continent or if they're in LosAngeles, if they're in Florida
or New York.
There's Sea Organizationinstallations and what they call
bases all over the world andthere are probably between three
(09:31):
to 4,000 Sea Org membersinternationally and you get paid
.
When I was there and I've beentold that it went up for a
little bit but then it went backdown you get paid around $50 a
week.
That's what you get paid.
If in the C organization Forthe schedule that we're about to
show you, you make $50 and thenthey pay taxes out of that 50
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bucks.
So you get about when I wasthere, I think it was $46.24 or
something like that $44.26 andsomething almost 45 bucks is
your takeaway after, after thegovernment gets that cut.
Um, so yeah, 45 bucks a weekfor this schedule.
So now let's talk about, let'sshow the schedule.
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Okay, so this is um and this iswhat's called an issue in the
sea organization.
It's just something that'sissued to all of the staff and
it's basically like generalinformation.
And this is the Golden EraProductions Extension Unit basic
schedule and this is from 26June 1987.
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So it was a few years before Istarted working there, but this
was generally the schedule atthe base base as well.
At the golden air production'smain uh property, this um unit,
there's a.
There's a unit in los angelesbecause we're a studio in the
middle of the desert in gilmanhot springs, california.
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It's about two to two and ahalf hours outside of los
angeles.
Because we're dealing in thestudio world, we often need
studio equipment and parts andtools and camera equipment and
lighting equipment that islocated in Los Angeles.
So there's an extension unit ofGolden Arrow Productions in Los
Angeles.
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They're basically a logisticsarm of the Golden Arrow
Productions desert base and theygo pick up equipment and then
they send it out to the property.
Because it's a confidentiallocation, there has to be like
an in-between, a go-between, acutout to go get this stuff.
Okay, so Golden Air Productionsextension unit basic schedule
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Monday, tuesday, wednesday,thursday, friday and Sunday
basic schedule.
Now, the reason that theyexclude Saturday is because on
Saturday there's a policy that LRon Hubbard wrote.
L Ron Hubbard is the founder,the source, of all Scientology
technology.
L Ron Hubbard wrote that if youworked in golden era
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productions, that you should dowhat's called renovations every
weekend and enhance the property.
So there's a core team ofelectrical and construction and
HVAC.
There's a handful of guys thatare in each of those departments
and they do change the filtersand stuff like that.
If a new building needs to bebuilt at the property, the staff
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of the property build thisbuilding, everyone who works
there.
When I was there, there wasalmost a thousand crew that
worked at this property and Iwould say about 800 of those
people participated in therenovations, like David
Miscavige, the chairman of theboard of RTC he ain't doing
renos on Saturday and there wereother executives like that,
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like the heads of some of thedifferent organizations, like
the commanding officer of theCommodores Messenger
organization he's not doingrenos.
So mainly the rank and filethat would participate in the
renovations.
And so that's why Saturday hasgot a different thing and we'll
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get into renno's a little bitlater, okay, so this schedule
has them from 0900 to 0930breakfast.
So in los angeles they live andwork in the exact same location
, so they're just walking fromone building to another building
, like on the same block usually.
Or maybe in the case of thecomplex in Hollywood they might
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have an apartment buildingthat's five or six blocks away
and they just walk to theproperty.
I think now they have almosteverybody living in the main
building at the complex.
If somebody knows somethingdifferent, you can put it in the
comments and hopefully thosepeople start.
I might even read it.
Okay, so half hour forbreakfast, 9 to 9.30.
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From 9.30 to 9.35, you havewhat's called a muster and in
the C organization you at leasthave three musters a day.
Sometimes you might have fouror five, depending on the base
and what's going on at the time.
At the imp base there weretimes when we might have five or
six musters a day because somany people were escaping from
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the property that they needed tocount their chickens every few
hours to see if we lost any sothat they wouldn't get such a
big head start on the peoplelooking for them.
I laugh, but that's 100% true.
Okay, so you have a muster.
That's basically the commandingofficer of that organization is
like okay, this is what we'resupposed to do.
This happened yesterday or lastweek.
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We're not doing any of that,we're going to do this, whatever
it's usually it could be.
It's supposed to be like two tothree minutes.
Sometimes these musters wouldgo for an hour.
If there was a lot of stuffgoing on, it was a lot.
Okay, then from in this schedulethey have these guys studying
in the morning.
Now a study period is two and ahalf hours.
So, depending on your schedule,you would either study from
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morning to lunch or frommid-afternoon to dinner or after
dinner for two and a half hours.
It's a morning study, afternoonstudy or an evening study slot.
So these guys here in this unitin LA would study in the
morning and you can see it'sfrom 9.35 to 12 o'clock.
It's two and a half hour slot.
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Then you have from noon to 1245.
They had exercise time andhygiene time.
This is wild guys.
So this is basically exercisetime.
So they've got 45 minutes toexercise and then wash up after
exercise.
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Um, now, I'm not familiar withthis midday exercise time thing,
cause we at the inner bay, atthe base, our exercise time was
at 10 o'clock.
We would exercise from 10 to 1045.
And then you just, it was theend of the night, so, like, well
, you don't need to wash upCause you're just going to go
home.
You should probably take ashower then.
Um, so you would just basicallyget on the bus after exercise
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stinking like you just played 45minutes of basketball.
Okay, Then these guys are havinglunch from 1245 to 115.
Now, that is a normal mealtime.
That's a half an hour meal.
That's a normal meal in the Corganization.
Um, I don't think in the entiretime I was there, lunch was
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more than a half hour.
You just and that's travel timeto lunch, eat lunch and travel
time back from lunch.
So if you worked at the goldbase, um, your, your work
building could be a 10-minutewalk from the dining hall, and
if you left at 11.50 to go tolunch at 12 o'clock, you were in
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trouble.
So, yeah, some people will belike I got to go pick something
up over at the garage and thegarage was next to the dining
hall and you'd leave at like11.45.
So then you go pick somethingup and then you just go eat.
You got to really be strategicon how you're going to milk that
30 minutes there.
Okay, then we go muster.
Okay, here we go See anothermuster.
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This is very key.
I saw this in the comments.
Chinese school, yes, like it'slike.
Chinese school, yeah, chineseschool, we'll.
We'll talk about that right now.
Okay, so from 12,.
So this says 115 to 120, musterand Chinese school.
So again, they got to counteverybody.
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In the way they do a muster inthe C organization is you line
up at attention in lines of yourdivision.
Now if you have a giantdivision you might have several
lines, but usually in a Corganization division there's at
least three departments of eachdivision.
So you would line up bydepartment and if your
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department had a hundred peoplethen you might have to make
three lines.
Your department and thedepartment head would be in the
front of the line and then maybesection heads in the front of
the other lines.
In almost all the organizationsI worked in at Golden Air
Productions there were hundredsof people in Golden Air
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Productions and all of thedivisions I was in were at least
25 to 60 people in thatdivision.
So it was many, many lines ofpeople and if you were low on
the total pole you could be atthe way back side of the muster.
So the, the, the, the lines ofpeople might be 20 or 30 deep in
each line.
So if you were, like you know,just a worker bee, you'd just be
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at the back of the line, no onecould see you you don't, no one
knows and you could be fuckingaround back there.
You could be talking tosomebody while the whole, while
the muster is taking place.
It's a very formal thing whereyou're at attention and you're
supposed to be listening, and ifyou're way in the back
sometimes you know nonsensecould be got up to there anyway,
chinese.
So what they would do at themuster and this was normally a
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lunch and a dinner muster thing,sometimes we would do it at
morning musters If some sort ofstrategic direction was issued
by David Miscavige, he wouldwrite this whole big program and
plan and everything, and aspart of that one of the steps
would be for the crew of anycertain organization to have to
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Chinese school a certain thingall the time at every single
muster.
And in Golden Air Productions LRon Hubbard actually suggested
in an advice that Golden AirProductions should Chinese
school the definition of a teamat musters and so for, I would
say, for at least 10 of the 15years I was there, we, at almost
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every single muster we wouldChinese school the definition of
a team by L Ron Hubbard, and itwas this whole issue.
It was like I want to say maybe10 or 15 paragraphs and we had
to do the entire thing.
And we had to.
What you do is they have somepeople that hold up this giant
sheet of of paper, like a rollof paper, and someone has
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written in giant letters this LRon Hubbard saying and they
would say team, the definitionof a team.
A team is a group of peoplethat get along and they usually
do great.
You know whatever it is andit's all written out.
And the person in front of thegroup says team, what is it?
And then you say team, thedefinition of a team is.
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And then you read the entirething.
And if the crew can't read theentire thing without messing it
up in perfect unison, then theyhave to do it again, and then
you have to do it again and youbasically have to keep doing it
until you know it by heart.
And then they take the thingdown, they take the writing down
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, and then the person juststands up there and says team,
what is it?
And then the entire crew inunison has to say team.
The definition of a team isit's a group of people that work
along to a common purpose andthey normally get along great.
Now the trick is to come up,you know, and you have to read
this entire thing and get itperfect.
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We probably did that with ahundred different things.
That was just the definition ofa team.
There's tons of differentthings.
That was just the definition ofthe team.
There was tons of other things.
You have to Chinese school, thepurpose of golden era
productions, the valuable finalproduct of golden era
productions, all these differentthings, knowledge reports,
policy letter about you know Joepins, joe pinprick, right, you
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get, it's a whole policy letterand you have to do that whole
thing.
Anyway, that's Chinese school.
That's supposed to take.
Heard this?
That's supposed to take fiveminutes.
It's never really that fast.
Okay, then, from 1.30 to 5.15is production.
Now, in this unit these guys aredriving around Los Angeles
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picking up packages for goldenair productions in the desert.
So their time to do that isfrom one 15 to five, 15.
Now, of course, if you're goingout to Alhambra or Monrovia to
pick up some speakers andthere's traffic, you might not
make it back in time for this.
So these guys are a littleloosey goosey, but this was
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their general laid out schedule.
Okay, then from five, 15 to sixo'clock they have dinner.
Now that's a 45 minute dinner.
Okay, now I don't mind sayingthat these guys seem like they
might be slackers.
Okay, cause 45 minute meals,that's wild.
The golden Era Productions, wewere rocking 30 minute meal
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breaks, um, and we were evenrocking 15 minute lunch and 15
minute deal, uh, dinner breaksfor a while, but it never.
I mean, we would have a halfhour and you know when we'd get
45 minutes.
I think on Thanksgiving wewould get 45 minutes, cause you
can't be eating all thatThanksgiving in 30.
You got to get an extra 15minutes to chow down on stuffing
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.
But yeah, that's a lot, 45minutes.
I don't know what you're goingto do with all that time.
Okay, now you've got from sixto 605, another muster.
So this is the third muster ofthe day for these guys in LA and
they live and work in mostlyall the same places and every
one of these musters, everybodygets rounded up and gets counted
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.
Oh, and when you go to themuster, the division heads, I
didn't tell this.
And when you go to the muster,the division heads, I didn't
tell this.
So the the, there there's a, theDER INR, which is the director
of inspection reports.
He's like the chief of policefor that C organization and he
has under him these, they'recalled MAAs, master at arms, and
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they're like the police,they're like the police officers
and he's the chief of police.
The police, uh, they're likethe police officers and he's the
chief of police anyway.
And the maas, um, are, arethere, they're trying to keep
track of everybody and andthey're the ones that find out
if somebody escaped or whateverthey got to track them down.
But the durian r says, uh, youknow, attention, and then
everybody, you know, stands upstraight and faces forward and
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then, um, they say, um, what dothey say?
Somebody, help me out here,seer members?
Um, I think they say divisionone and then division, the head
of the division one sayspresident, are accounted for and
, depending on what's going onat the time, there might not be
able to have any accounted forus.
But, like in division one, theyhave the switchboard operator,
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the person who answers thephones, so that person's always
on the phone.
They don't go to musters.
There's certain people, likethe security guards, at the
booth they're watching andopening the gates and they're
being the security guards,they're not coming to muster.
So division one, say, might saypresident accounted for, and
then the commanding officer orthe DURINR says who's accounted
for?
And they go one on reception,three on watch, three secured
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from watch.
So the night shift that'ssleeping is secured from watch,
so they would be sleeping.
So you might say three on watch,three secured from watch, one
on reception and one on aproject, or you know somebody,
you know tracking somebody down.
They'll just say somebody's ona project or they're, they're,
they're out or whatever.
They'll use some kind of codedwordage and then they just go
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through.
Division two accounted forpresent.
Division three present,division for present or
accounted for.
And they'll just go through andthen, depending on if what's
going on with the muster, theymight ask for those people that
are accounted for.
Okay, then muster.
Okay, then letter writing.
Okay, and that's from 625.
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6 0, 5.
This is really tiny, by the way.
I should make my screen bigger.
Why am I doing this?
Why am I there?
You go, just okay.
6 0, 5 to 6 30.
So 25 minutes of letter writing.
Okay, we're going deep, we'regoing inside baseball, I'm
trying not to.
But golden era productionsAnother thing that L Ron Hubbard
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wrote about golden eraproductions, and if you're a
staff member in any Scientologyorganization or if you were,
you'll know this there's a thingcalled the Org Gold Officer.
Oh, somebody's texting me.
Did I mess something up?
No, it's a joke, man.
So L Ron Hubbard wrote thatevery single staff member in
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golden era productions, everySea Org member in golden Era
Productions, every CEO member inGolden Era Productions, should
be writing to somebody in aScientology organization about
using the products of Golden EraProductions the tapes, the
lectures, the CDs, dvds, vhs,laser discs, whatever it was
that we were sending these guysat the time and so you would
have to write.
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I did this for many years, Ithink.
I think I had New Haven,connecticut and someplace in
Ohio.
Each person in Golden ArrowProductions had to write to a
person in one of theseorganizations and if you, if you
were a SeaWorld member atGolden Arrow Productions, you
were just assigned anorganization.
So I had Ohio for a long time,and then I think I got another
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one and I just had to write tothese people.
I didn't know any of them.
I would just write to them andyou had to write um, if you
wrote 10 letters this week, yougot to write 11 letters next
week and then, if you then, 12letters and 13 layers and so on.
So you're just writing thesepeople the most Monday like, hey
Bill, I never heard back fromyou on that last.
Uh, how many course uh packsyou sold that had lectures with
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it?
Please write me.
That's it.
You would just crank out about10 or 15 of those.
And whoever, whoever in goldenair productions, whoever's
division wrote the most amountof these things were called OGO
letters, org gold officer.
Whoever's division wrote themost OGO letters, he would get
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donuts.
And Claire and I were laughingbecause when we were doing that
severance episode, they havethis thing what is it called the
waffle party?
We had the donut party.
We actually did have a donutparty.
This is not.
This is not a joke.
We would have staff meeting andthen they would announce okay,
and also it's a totally riggedgame because, like some
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divisions have 12 people, likethe sales division has 12 people
and they're actually the onesthat are in charge of the org
gold officer program, which Ididn't even realize until I just
said it, but they have, um,they have 12 people.
Well, the estates division has ahundred people.
There's there's hundreds ofpeople in this division, or a
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lot maybe, maybe 70 or 80.
At times it was giant and attimes it got smaller, but
regardless, those guys wouldalmost always win and they're
animals, are big constructionguys and HVAC guys and the
grounds crew and theelectricians and all these guys
and they would literally be the,the, the Ogo, uh, the Ogo
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officer.
That was her, that was her post, this lady, her name was Marge
and she wore these like um alienantennas and she would, would
get up and staff and go.
Ok, the winners this week arethe Estates and they won every
single week for like five yearsand they would give, they would.
There would be tables andtables of dozens of donuts and
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they would literally descend onthem like thumb for sharks.
Just obliterate these donuts,anyway.
So that's what this letterwriting nonsense is about.
Okay, and then production.
So now, from 630 to 945 isproduction, and so that's
another period where you're justworking.
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Now I don't know what theseguys in LA are going to do from
730 to 945.
They probably have to fill outpaperwork and stuff like that.
That's probably what they do,because everything's closed.
But at the base we were makingCDs and DVDs and VHSs and
cassettes and, um, we weremaking things where I worked, um
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, so that's what we would doduring that time.
We just make more stuff, okay.
So now it's 9.45 to 10.
Oh, no, no, no, it's 11.45.
Sorry, guys, 6.30 to 11.45 isproduction, and then 11.45 to
2400 is cleaning stations.
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So there's no maids.
In Scientology, if you work intreasury, the people that clean
treasury are the people thatwork in treasury.
And so for 15 minutes every day, you're supposed to do cleaning
stations.
Basically wipe your desk down,take out the garbage, do the
shredding.
Oh, that's another thing.
In Scientology, you're notallowed to throw any paperwork
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in the garbage.
Everything has to be shredded.
Scientology you're not allowedto throw any paperwork in the
garbage.
Everything has to be shredded.
If there's words on it, youhave to shred it.
And so you have to do shreddingduring that time as well, and
then at midnight you secure.
That's just a normal day, okay.
Now if at Golden Air Productions, if we're supposed to make 50
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000, we stand tall.
You know that video where davidmiscavige is wearing that her
maze.
I'm not going to say the word,but he's just wearing a sweater
that might not a masculine manmight not be wearing.
Um, he's wearing a sweater andhe's singing.
We stand tall.
Okay, we made cassettes of thatscientology music single and we
had to produce like 50 000000of these things and if they've
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got to get done, they got to getdone tonight.
And if it's time to secure,which means go to bed, and we've
only got 10,000, and we'resupposed to be up to 30,000,
well, we best be getting tomaking 10,000 of those tonight.
So by tomorrow we're on targetwith whatever we're supposed to
make that Anyway.
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So you, 10,000 of those tonight.
So by tomorrow we're on targetwith whatever we're supposed to
make that anyway.
So you would just stay up allnight.
You would just, instead ofgetting on the bus or instead of
walking back to your birthing,you just go back to work until
somebody says you can go home.
Now, in a lot of areas in goldenair productions, if the boss or
the head of the division isstaying up to work on a certain
area, it's just expected thatanyone who's in that area stays
there until they leave.
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So if the place where I workedfor many years was the
manufacturing division and I wasin the AV production division,
which is the ones that made thetapes and the CDs and the VHSs
and all that.
But the people that made thee-meters were in the same
division.
That was called the HEMdepartment and we were the AV
department.
And then there was the systemsdepartment.
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And if the HEM guys, theHubbard Electrometer
Manufacturing Department, ifthey stayed, if the div head,
the head of manufacturing, themanufacturing der, stayed up to
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get all these meters fixed ormade or whatever, then it would
just be a given that everybodywho worked in the meter
department would be there untilit was a huge flap and the
manufacturing division was goingto be in the shits because of
the meter guys.
The systems guys and the AVguys would also stay up all
night and work in the meterdepartment to get whatever they
needed done.
And so you had to be a jack ofall trades because you could be
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doing your job during the day,but then you have to be doing
somebody else's job all throughthe night and then go back to
doing your job during the day.
Anyway, so you're basicallyfrom 9 in the morning that's
when you turn on and you turnoff at midnight and so from
midnight to 9, that's where youhave going to wherever.
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Wherever your, your bed or yourbirthing is it's called in the
Sea Org, wherever your birthingwas.
Sometimes that could be a bus15 minute bus ride, sometimes
that could be a 10 minute walk,sometimes it could be a three
minute walk, depending on whereyou worked and where you lived
in a Sea Org base and thenshould shower and shave and then
bed and then back up in themorning and do it all over again
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.
Yeah, I did that for 15 yearsand I would say at the Golden
Air Productions property.
You would usually do the minimumof one all-nighter a week.
Depending on what division ordepartment you were in.
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You could count on oneall-nighter a week and there
might be some periods where youfew months where you go with all
night with no all-nighters, andthen you could go into some
periods where there might befour or five all-nighters a week
and so, and usually that onSunday or Saturday, depending on
where your Sea Org base is, youbasically have the morning to
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do what's called the clean shipprogram or basically your
laundry and clean your roomwhere you live, your birthing
and that's where you might washyour bedding, vacuum dust
everything down, clean you live,your birthing, and that's where
you might wash your bedding,you know.
Vacuum dust everything down,clean the toilet, clean the sink
, whatever.
And then, and you had threehours to do all of that, and at
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every Sea Org base that I everwent to, that three hours was
just extra sleep.
You would somehow you wouldthrow your laundry and when you
got home you'd get up at thelast possible second and you'd
shake something off and put iton, and you would.
That three hours was sleep, nomatter where you went or trying
to get up, the nonsense that youweren't supposed to get up to.
You'd have to get up becauseyou basically had three hours
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where really nobody was keepingtrack of you, and so that's.
Usually people chose to do that.
And also in a lot of Sea Orgbases you would have a staff
meeting on Friday night.
I don't know if they have astaff meeting.
We'll have to look and see ifthat's included in here
somewhere.
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I think it's at the bottom.
Anyway, there's also a staffmeeting which usually will
happen on a Thursday or a Fridaynight, depending on what
organization you're in, butusually it's Friday.
And then um, and that afterstaff meeting on Friday it would
basically be party, because youdon't have to go to post on
Saturday Cause you're going todo this renovations thing on
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Saturday, which we'll get tothat in a second.
What, how am I doing on timehere?
I'm doing perfect, thank you,I'm good, just ask me, I'll tell
you.
Anyway, so you do, you take offon Friday night, and then you
might.
If you were really going, justa wild and crazy kind of guy,
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you might order a Domino's pizzaand watch a movie.
If you could swing it on aFriday night, because you could
stay up to like three or four,cause the next day you're going
to be doing block, wall or stone, veneer or mixing concrete or
electrical or you know, plumbingor underground sewage, nothing
important that's going to needlike sleep or brain power.
And so you, you party on Fridaynight, and then you come into
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reno's hungover, and nothungover from drinking, but just
hungover from more, not sleep,and then you do that all day
long.
And then you, you go home,you're supposed to shower and
shave and get cleaned up forwhat's called source night, and
on Saturday you have to listento, like a LRH lecture, the
whole entire crew, they all goin there and they just sit in
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the seats.
And I listened to an LRHlecture and it usually is good,
depending on how long thelecture it is.
It's usually an hour to twohours an LRH lecture and um, and
it's him giving a lecture topeople in the 1950s or 60s or
whatever, and it's it's long andit's also completely boring.
Nonce a bunch of nonsense,gobbledygook and also prime
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opportunity to get some moresleep in.
But if you're caught sleepingat source night you usually get
in trouble.
So you gotta have like a reallygood way to.
I was telling Claire one time Ihad a really good.
I would put my hands on myknees and I would go like this,
like I was listening, but reallymy hand was just propping up my
face and my fingers were justpoking in my eyes so they could
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be closed and I'd get I couldget a good 45 minute cat nap in
at source night.
Anyway, a lot of fun, okay.
So now let's see.
Saturday breakfast, muster,renos, hygiene time.
Everything's the same, renos,okay.
So, renos, like I said,saturday Renos, you could
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literally be doing anything.
On Saturday, renos, I didelectrical concrete, mixing,
block, block, wall stone, veneer, plumbing, hvac, engine repair
and grounds.
Those are all the things that Idid over the 15 years I was.
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I I could arguably get a job atany doing any one of those
things and I would just I'd be ano, it'd be a no-brainer for me
.
Um, because I did it everysaturday for nine months and
then and the next thing, forthree years and then the next
thing for two years and then.
So you get to be a jack of alltrades.
If you're uh, sometimes there'speople that are just kind of
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worker bees.
They usually get thrown on thegrounds like de-weeding or just
doing something that it's likewhatever, if you do it, you do
it, if you don't, you don't.
We can't count on you to doanything.
But if you were passionateabout a certain trade, or if you
in a previous, before joiningthe Sea Org, if you worked in a
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trade, usually that was what youdid Like.
If you were an electrician bytrade before you joined the
c-org, most likely you'd just bean electrician in the c-org.
And if you weren't, if you werealso a really good audio
engineer, then you'd be an audioengineer during the week and
then on reno's you would 100 bean electrician.
Um, so that was that.
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That's also very usually whatall the trades I did were
usually very physical.
So you would mixing concreteand doing stone, veneer and
stonework and block wall or MCUs, masonry, concrete units.
Um, that's heavy work.
Um.
So, yeah, okay.
Uh, renos, renos, renos, renos,renos, renos.
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Okay, for this reason for thisplace, they Renos, renos, renos.
Okay, for this reason for thisplace, they, I guess in the
afternoon they go back toproduction, so they would only
do like a morning Renos in LosAngeles.
Oh, and here's where the CSP is.
So it says eight o'clock tonine 30.
Is that right?
Am I like am?
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Am I spacing it on militarytime, or is that 2,200?
Yeah, that's eight o'clock,right, eight to 930.
I don't know, I think I'mlosing my mind here.
An hour and a half for org CSP,sorry.
So org CSP.
So that's basically just like areally long cleaning stations
at the org.
So on Saturday night, that'strue, oh my God, org CSP.
So that's basically just like areally long cleaning stations
at the org.
So on Saturday night, that'strue, oh my God, org CSP.
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So org CSP at the base was anightmare, because there was an
organization called theCommodores Messenger
Organization and there's onethat's international.
And then there's a Commodoresmessenger organization that's
solely assigned to Golden AirProductions, called CMO Gold,
and these CMO Gold cats, most ofthem young teenage females,
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would be coming in with whitegloves on and they would just
rub the tops of doorways andshelves that haven't seen the
sun since 1982.
And they're just wiping thesewhite gloves, and if the glove's
not white're just wiping thesewhite gloves, and if the gloves
not white, then you got to keep.
You got to keep going, and thenthey have like 20 different
areas to inspect so you have towait for them to come back
around.
You could be there until threeo'clock in the morning waiting
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to get your white gloveinspection approved.
Um, so that was just a generalSaturday night.
Uh fun, uh kind of just likewheel of fortune.
You know, depending on who'sinspecting and what's going on
this week, we might be up till 3, or we might just be here an
extra half hour.
Okay, now they have from 9.30.
Oh, from 9.30 to midnight,personal CSP.
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So that's hardcore.
So they figured out a reallygood way to game the system.
In LA they basically just hadpersonal CSP on Saturday night.
This is LA Sea Org membersthinking here Because Saturday
night.
In LA that's a party all daylong.
So they made their free timewhen they're supposed to be
doing their laundry on saturdaynight.
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Yeah, see, we didn't have thatat the end base.
They made it on sunday morningwhen everything's closed.
Um, okay, then staff meaninghere, it is staff meaning it
says product conference.
Oh, yeah, so every c org memberhas to have a product
conference every day.
Product conference for allexecs and branch heads.
Daily Saturday productconference is at whatever that
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is 8 o'clock, yeah, 8 to 8.30and then 6 o'clock, I don't know
.
Anyway, they're having productconferences every day.
You want to talk aboutmicromanaging?
The C organization is managedby the hour at the staff level
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and then you literally aremicromanaging every day and
every week, and that's thelongest period you really manage
by is a week.
So if you made 85 widgets lastweek, you've got to make 86
widgets this week, and so on andso forth for the rest of the
time, until you crash and startall over again.
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Holy moly.
Yeah, I'm just going to do somequestions on Claire.
Were you two married at thistime that Mark is talking about?
Yeah, we were married from 1992and until now.
Yeah, right, don't mind, I'mgood, just ask me, I'll tell you
.
Um, yeah, that's a long time.
Um, okay, let's go to thecomments.
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Um, there's a lot of, there'sjust a lot of nonsense, guys,
that's all I can say.
Um, that is uh.
Oh, there you go.
Um, um, that is uh.
Oh, there you go.
Um, if I'm.
I don't know, I haven't donethe math on it lately, but I
think that schedule, if you justdo that schedule, it's between
a hundred and 120 hours a week.
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Basically, that's the barebones schedule.
A hundred hours a week.
If you're making 45 bucks anhour, um, that's basically about
50 cents an hour, I think.
When I calculated my paydivided by hours it was 36 cents
an hour is what I was takinghome.
I made considerably more thanthat this last week and in the
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past few years, but 36 cents anhour is what a Sea Org member
today is probably making.
Right now it's about $0.36 anhour.
It is common knowledge that SeaOrg members make less than most
prisoners in most countries Likethere are.
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I was watching a documentary ona prison in some foreign
country.
These guys are making fourbucks a day.
That might be more, and they'realso getting Saturday and
Sunday off.
I mean, what the hell?
They're in prison.
They're making the same amountas the senior members and for a
while, I think, what'sconsidered Chinese slave labor
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by today's standards?
The people that work infactories and there's inhumane
conditions and all of thesethings.
They make more than Sea Orgmembers and they get more time
off.
Think about that.
That's wild.
That's a wild thing thatChinese slave laborers make more
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money and get more time offthan present day SeaWorld
members.
Somebody can fact check thehell out of that if you want.
But that was the case a fewyears ago when I was researching
it.
Okay, for real, we're going todo comments now.
When I was researching it.
Okay, for real, we're going todo comments now.
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Eliza, your detail about theinsanity of this organization is
the best way to illustrate thedestructiveness of this cult.
Thank you for your integrityand stamina for continuing to
speak out Well.
Thank you, eliza S.
I appreciate that.
You know, like I was sayingearlier at the top of the show,
this is one of the most widelyrequested um things on the
channel is what are these guysdoing and what are they up to?
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So I figured we can do it.
I know we've we've covered thiskind of stuff before, but I've
never really gone through theschedule and just talked about
this.
Um, apostate, alex, in thehouse, the U?
S government spends more moneyper meal than the seahawk.
Oh, yes, this is another thingat the ant base and we thank you
, apostate alex.
Um, we've talked about this.
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The budget allocation forseahawk food for seahawk members
at the gold base was a dollarper day per crew member.
Okay, now, we weren't havingthe best of food, we weren't
having the worst of food, but itwas the cheapest of food,
that's for sure.
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And there were many times wherethe crew got food poisoning,
poisoning in mass.
That happened, I think, atleast three or four times that I
can remember.
Um, when I was at the property,there was a taco incident which
was very infamous.
I think that was like a nine.
That got like a 99% take rateon people that ate it.
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Like there was not a.
There were lines and lines atthe, at the restrooms, for hours
.
Question Zinu White.
Question.
I understand you adapt to thetime, but people's bodies
eventually just give out.
What are the weirdest placeswhere you or someone else has
found someone sleeping?
Oh my God, this is such a greatquestion, zinu White, yes, you
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do wear out and you do fallasleep.
I've heard of people fallingasleep standing up vacuuming.
I've heard of people crawlinginto a closet and then closing
the door behind them and goingto sleep.
The best one ever was this kidnamed Trevor who was in New York
and I think I talk about thisin my book Claire can pipe in if
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it is or isn't.
She edited a lot of stuff outof the book when it had to make
a certain page number and I knowI wrote the story but I don't
know if it's in the book.
This kid named Trevor wentmissing while we were having to
do the audiovisual systems inNew York and he just went to
sleep behind a curtain in thetheater and a New York
organization, the one right nearTimes Square.
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He just literally crawledbehind a curtain and went to
sleep and he slept there forlike 19 hours.
They thought he had blown andthey sent people out to go look
for him in Times Square and hejust like popped out behind the
closet like 18 hours.
It's like hey man, what's goingon?
And people were like are like,oh, dude, people are looking for
you, they think you blew, andbe like well, I only slept for a
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few.
No, it's tuesday anyway.
Yeah, uh, we covered that.
Um, okay, good from a poet com,I worked a lot.
I'll comment I worked a lot whenI was serving in the us navy,
but but we got paid really well,got fed well and had plenty of
time off.
Yeah, a lot of times the SeaOrganization is compared to the
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Navy because L Ron Hubbard, heliked doing Navy stuff and so,
like the orders of the day andthe way things are organized and
the communication systems, alot of it is loosely based off
of Hubbard's experience in themilitary and so a lot of people
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can compare it to that.
But every person I talk towho's in the military is like oh
yeah, the Sea Org is like bootcamp that just never ends, where
they're just constantlybreaking you down.
Excuse me, but the pay is justnot good and the time off is not
good and also you're not reallydoing anything of value or
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productive productivity.
Um, rorschach, 2 1, 1, 2.
Finally able to catch a livestream.
By the way, I have that sameshirt.
Well, okay, awesome.
This is, uh, untuck it thisepisode sponsored by untuck it?
It's not sponsored.
I bought this thing full price.
Um.
Thank you, rorschach, that'svery generous of you.
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Um question did claire have todo all that you had to do?
No, claire was in a.
Totally thank you for that,love, maddie.
Claire was in a totallydifferent um division when she
was in golden air production.
She was in the qualificationsdivision and she was a
supervisor, a course supervisor,so she would just supervise
students that were studying LRand Hubbard courses.
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Um, and then she was also um,like when somebody was is was
doing a course and it didn't gogo well or it was going bad, she
was a person that would reviewwhy it was going bad.
And then she was promoted tothe Religious Technology Center
and then she didn't do anythingthat I did and for a while she
did a very similar function inReligious Technology Center
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where she in the in thequalifications department of
religious technology center andthen she became what was called
the dirt and internal exec, rtc,which was just the executive
that was in charge of theinternal divisions of rtc, like
treasury and the executivedivision and the you know, the
divisions that were within,within RTC, that were not
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outward or external facing Okay,okay, good, good, did that?
Oh going, claire.
Claire Headley on ScientologyBest hack ever Go into an
auditing room and put in the insession sign, turn light off,
sleep on four full off.
Yes, this is a very well-knownfact that auditing rooms because
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it's a Hubbard policy thatyou're not allowed to disturb an
auditing session.
It's what's called a high crime.
Somebody going Claire cancorrect me on this, but if you
disturb a Scientology auditingsession, I think you can be
declared a suppressive person.
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It's that kind of level of youcannot do it.
So if you want to take a reallygood nap, just go into an
auditing room, put in session onthe door, that's it.
No one's going to bang on thatdoor.
You could be in there for daysand somebody wouldn't do
anything.
Um, thank you for that, claire.
Oh, dalton, my favorite Marksaying that might, might be.
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Uh, I'm good, just ask me, I'lltell you.
Okay, melanie Johnson questionDid you ever look at the
schedule and think this is nuts?
Um, I lived it.
Of course, I was always thinkingit was nuts.
Yeah, it was.
I'm just telling you, when youget to that point, your body it,
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just it.
Oh, my goodness, dr X, thiswork schedule is a rigid system
designed for you to fail, whichis a form of mind control to
make you feel worthless when youfail to meet expectations,
designed for you to fail, whichis a form of mind control to
make you feel worthless when youfail to meet expectations.
No kidding, thank you for that,dr X.
Yeah, so this is also.
I didn't even really get intothis.
What time is it?
Oh, we got, we got seven moreminutes.
Okay, I'm going to tell thisone last thing and then we'll
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get to the giveaways.
Okay, remember how I saidyou're doing your work and then
on Saturdays you got to dosomebody else's work.
You got to do the renovations.
Well, during the week also.
Like when I was saying if yourdepartment was tanking and you
needed to help from your otherdepartments in your division,
then they would come in and bailyou out.
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Well, sometimes that happenedwith whole divisions in regards
to the organization.
So if there was a somethingthat needed to get done like if
david miscavige said I want theentire property re-sodded by
monday and it's friday night,okay, if the entire property to
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be re-sodded would take hundredsand hundreds of people all
doing sod all day, all allFriday night, prepping it,
ripping up the old dirt allSaturday, hosing everything down
all Saturday, putting new soddown and then all Sunday putting
new sod down to have it alldone and tucked and fluffed and
tucked and ready for Mondaymorning with David Miscavige.
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So if something like thathappened, everybody would come
off of their posts and just dothat.
And that is something thatcould happen maybe once or twice
a week or maybe once a month,depending on what was happening.
And if David Miscavige wasthere at the property when he
was there, he would be walkingaround and inspecting and going
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into people's areas andinevitably would order this has
to get done or that has to getdone or this.
So whenever he was there, itwas basically a chaos machine,
the of just wherever he wentthere would be a just a path of
destruction and most likelyyou'd end up doing something on
that area, or you'd hear aboutit, or there'd be this kind of
flap, or this person would go tothe rpf or everybody would get
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assigned a lower condition oryou name it.
It could happen from himwalking into somebody's area and
doing an inspection or doingsomething.
Okay, xenuite, just listening toyou read that schedule is
making me exhausted.
Yeah, the funny thing is is nowI mean this last few weeks I've
been doing a project here inColorado and I'm getting up at 6
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, 630, and I'm getting home at 6or 630.
And it's a lot for me, but Imean kind of like, not really
because I have so many yearswhere I'm just accustomed to
just working Like if somethingis a problem and you have to
stay an extra two hours, it's,it's, it's four o'clock, you
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have to be around six o'clock.
Whoopie do I was.
I used to work in a place wheresomething could happen at
midnight and you'd have to stayuntil the next morning and it
was just like you got to do it.
There's not, it is what it isanyway.
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Yes, it's a lot, okay.
One last one katherine olsonsaid we had ofos org flag
officer.
Yeah, so if you were inmanagement in los angeles then l
ron hubbard wrote that thoseguys should be writing to the
organizations.
I tell you, these scientologyorganizations have all these
random people writing to themall week.
They don't have time to evenread the letters, much less
respond to the letters.
Katherine can say.
Um, if they were getting lotsof answers, I literally think I
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might have written 2,000 lettersto these people in Ohio.
I think they wrote me back likefive times.
It was just a statistic.
You've got to write this manyletters and you just send them
out.
You don't even care if theyanswer.
If they answer, it's actually apain in the ass, because now
you have to be like, oh my God,when this I wrote this, I wrote
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this nine months ago.
Okay, so it's totally notrelevant anymore.
And they just answered andyou're just like you literally
would write a letter saying dearJim, thanks for answering.
Did you find out about the blah, blah, blah?
And then just send anotherletter.
Okay, let's go to this giveawaything.
Let's see what's going on here.
(57:56):
Thank you guys for all thecomments I'm doing.
I'm literally I'm, I'm, I'mhome alone on this thing.
I'm.
Let's see what I got.
Oh, look at that, I already gotit.
42 people have entered in to win.
I thought we'd have less thanthat, but okay, there you go.
That's good.
Let's see what the live issaying.
Again, if you want to get inhere, the key word is
(58:17):
all-nighters.
The secret word is all-nighters, and Christian B says you're
still awesome.
I absolutely need to catch upon this channel.
Jealous of the beard growingability.
Yeah, I can grow a beard, noproblems.
This is like two weeks, right,something like that, maybe two
months All-nighters.
(58:37):
Yeah, there's a bunch morepeople coming in there.
Yeah, if you want to win, justtype in all-nighters and yeah,
you could win a free gift fromthe BFG merch store.
Okay, I'm going to do the drawhere, pushing the button.
I think, hmm, there, it is Okay.
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Ooh, look at Clara, claire, oh,and Shannon.
Ooh, I almost won.
Ooh, robert almost won and Iwon.
I knew there would be a daywhen I would win.
You know what I deserve that.
You know I really do With allthe stuff I give away.
I think I'm going to get whatshould I get?
(59:19):
I think I'll get a Zinu as myhomeboy sweater.
Of course I'm going to redrawyou maniacs.
Okay, hold on a second.
Jesus Christ, somebody saidrigged, I'm drunk.
I just I made.
I only commented one time.
I said to put them.
I said to put all nighters inthe thing, nikki and
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congratulations.
Wow, yeah, look at me.
I got to go down here.
Well done, wait, wait, wait.
Where is it?
It's moving too fast now.
Well done, mark.
Congratulations.
The system is ScreamYard based.
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I can't rig it.
Congratulations, nikki Ann.
Email Claire at BlownForGoodcomwith a link to the item that
you would like in theblownforgoodcom merch store and
she will send you a code and youjust you just order it and they
just ship it directly to you.
It's a really cool systemactually, the and they have a
stream here and has a giveawaytool just for it, which is
totally not rigged.
And yeah, there you go, notrigged.
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And yeah, there you go.
Let's go back to here, let's go.
Oh, there I am.
I hope you guys like this.
If you want me to do a video ona certain subject, just bleep,
bloop it down in the comments.
What YouTube does.
Now, I didn't know this untilrecently.
I was doing I was researchingsomething for a project and
(01:00:49):
somehow I got into this articleand it basically said that
YouTube is going through allyour comments on your channel
and then they're serving you upwhat people want you to do a
video on, and it's just doing itautomatically.
And I just went to this tab andI looked at it and, sure enough
, there it was.
And they said I kid you not.
I said a day in the life of aScientology CEO, remember,
(01:01:11):
that's what it said, that's whatpeople want to hear about.
So I was like, okay, let's seeif this YouTube thing is doing
the right thing and supposedlyit is because people wanted to
know this, and I did go throughthe comments and they did so.
If you want to know about acertain thing, you can search
the channel.
We have literally done hundredsand hundreds of hours of videos
on the most detailed and mundaneaspects of the organization.
(01:01:35):
But, um, if you, if there issomething that we have not
covered, um, get down there andbleep loop it and, uh, you know,
if I get another home alone daylike this, maybe I'll do it.
Um and then um, and look,Claire says thanks for joining.
She's in the chat.
She's somewhere where shedoesn't have a camera all set up
and everything but um, she's,she'll be back.
(01:01:57):
She also did a video with Tonyuh Ortega from, uh, the
underground bunker.
Um, and and uh, you shouldcheck that out.
It's just the last video, um,that just came out this week.
I think it was on Fridaymorning.
It came out.
It was all about how people gettheir suppressive person
declare order written on themand what Scientology goes
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through to get it approved andall the things they fill it out.
I'm going to do a few morequestions because people are
writing here.
A few more questions becausepeople are writing here.
Joe says Claire was missed, butMark, you held this down.
Well, thank you very much.
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I appreciate it.
Did you do the information fullhat?
I don't know about theinformation full hat, but I did
do.
For every post that you do inthe Sea Org there's a hat it's
called the full hat and it'sbasically all the writings that
L Ron Hubbard ever wrote aboutthat job or anything that anyone
who's done that job may haveput into something that says
this is how to do this job.
And for L Ron Hubbard there'scourses for all of the
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organization.
Full hats, there's everythingfor all of those posts.
Golden Arrow Productions is alittle tricky because they're
very specialized posts, but whenI was at Able International I
did the treasury.
I was a treasury secretary, Iwas the vice president of
personnel for a few months and Igot busted off of that because
I couldn't get any new peopleinto the Sea Org except for my
(01:03:24):
sister Bummer.
And then I was the treasurysecretary and I slated at that
and I did the treasury secretaryfull hat and then I did the
full hat for quality control andall those other things I did
all the full hats for too, but Idon't know about this
information for nonsense.
I love rewatching when I'mcooking, cleaning, et cetera.
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Well, thank you, love, and Iappreciate that.
This is great.
It all seems to be a lot ofbusy work without any planning.
That's exactly correct.
So my job here is done becauseI explained it, and it is a lot
of busy work without anyplanning.
And this guy says it all seemslike to be a lot of busy work
without any planning.
Yeah, pretty much.
If there's a takeaway, there'sseveral thousand let's say three
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to four thousand ScientologySea Org members that are just
writing each other and they'remarketing things on graphs and
they're talking to people andevery once in a while they get a
little money from some peopleand that's it.
It's a big, giant busy workscheme to get people to give
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them money.
And there's a big thing inScientology oh, if you want to
go on a leave or if you want totake a leave of absence, you got
to get it approved and somebodyhas to cover your job and they
cannot lose you.
The world is going to end ifyou are not here doing this job
and then when you escape somehow, the world doesn't end.
So, yeah, you could just not dothat and do something else, and
(01:04:56):
you'll be a lot happier, mostlikely so if you are a Sea Org
member or if you're Scientologywatching this.
This is what's going on inthere.
It's just busy work.
They're just wasting money andthey're just spending your money
and they're not making.
They're not taking any of themoney for themselves.
It's all going to Miscavige forsushi, snowmobile parties with
Tom Cruise, little yachts,little yacht trips with Tommy
(01:05:18):
boy.
That's where all the money goes.
Okay, necessary trouble saysthanks, claire and Catherine,
you're a great mods and reallydo add to the chat.
Yeah, thank you Claire andthank you Catherine and thank
you Claire for joining us andyeah, I think that's enough.
I think that's all for now.
(01:05:43):
We did have a.
We have been doing shorts andwe did a whole bunch of Surge
shorts and if you haven't seenthe story of Surge Obolinski,
you can go check that out.
That's the gentleman in thebunch of the shorts that we've
been releasing on the channelrecently.
And Serge has been doing great.
We're trying to get him we'restill trying to get him some
work.
Finding work for Serge has beena uniquely challenging endeavor
(01:06:03):
and you've got to find somethingthat's close to him that he can
do without having arms, withjust his hooks, and, um, that he
wants to do and that he can get.
He can.
It's worthwhile.
You know there's it's a lot ofpieces of the puzzle that have
to fit to make this happen.
So, um, we think we've got somecool stuff kind of in the works
(01:06:24):
and we'll see how surge likesit and what happens.
But, um, that's that okay.
Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
Let me, um, oh man, I gotta, Igotta, get this comment off
before and and we'll see howSerge likes it and what happens.
But that's that, okay, thanksguys, I appreciate it.
Let me, oh man, I got to getthis comment off before I end
this and then play the outro.
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Hey guys, welcome back to the channel.
Welcome to another episode ofScientology Q&A.
I'm Mark Hedley.
I'm joined today by my lovelywife's Claire's chair.
There she is, right there,claire's chair.
Claire is on a well-deservedgirls weekend and she is joining
(00:37):
us in the comments today.
I was going to say, well, thecat's away, the mice will play,
and then she showed up in thecomments.
So I'm still being watched andobserved.
So yeah, if you are joining ustoday, feel free to let us know
where you're joining us from.
And today's secret word isall-nighters is all-nighters.
(01:03):
We're going to be talking aboutthe Sea Org, scientology, sea
Org and the schedule that theindividual members there keep.
If you're amazed at how longthey work and what they do,
we'll talk about that when weget to the comments as well.
One of the most commonquestions that we get asked on
(01:24):
our channel is what are theseSea Org members doing all day?
How could they keep busy whenScientology is continually
shrinking more and more everyyear for the past several
decades?
And we'll talk about that.
We will do a Q&A at the end.
So if you have questions thatare Sea Org schedule related,
(01:46):
we'll try to answer those.
We're trying to make it so thatwe have sort of a library of
all these different Scientologysubjects and things that go on.
And so we want to try to keepthe questions that you guys ask
about the Sea Org and theschedule so that this video is,
you know, more productive, moreinformational than we would
(02:09):
normally do.
So let's go through some of thecomments.
We'll see who's coming intofrom where.
We got Lapita from Texas.
Y'all Thanks for joining us.
Lapita Jerry Miller from Omaha,nebraska Good old Omaha.
Betsy Sue from Myrtle BeachThank you, betsy Sue.
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And then we've got Zenuite fromAustin, texas.
Hey, zenuite, I watch a lot ofvideos that are taking place in
Austin, Texas.
And then we got NecessaryTrouble from Glasgow, montana.
Looking forward to this.
Look at that.
This is another good chance forme to mispronounce a lot of
things, uh, that I normallywouldn't be.
(02:52):
Uh, saying so, thanks for that,guys.
Uh, hello from florida.
Uh, I own pluck um.
And then, oh, here's matt dennyI think he's coming from the UK
, right, ooh, alive.
And here was me, thinking I wasgoing to bed early as I'm going
back to work tomorrow, watchingfrom Norfolk, england, looking
forward to it.
Thank you, matt.
Thank you for joining us, afrequent flyer of the channel.
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Um, I'm probably saying thatright.
I know there was a bigcontroversy on where, uh, where
and how to say that.
Out out, uh, alcester, southDakota, 1776.
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Angry, oh boy, um, hello.
Chat listening in New Hampshirewhile crafting.
Well, nice, I like that.
You know I listened to a lot ofpodcasts and uh shows when I'm
on the way to work.
I'm at I'm on a project rightnow where I have about two to
three hours to travel every dayand I use usually listen to
music.
But lately I've been putting onYouTube and different podcasts
and stuff.
Susie spoon, hi, from HunterValley, australia.
(03:58):
You know we did this video alittle later today because I got
some complaints from the downunder folks that they never get
to join lives.
So I said, okay, well, I'll doit a few hours later.
It's still early in Australia,but not so early.
Howdy from Wyoming, and oh,look at this.
Good to see you, mark, watchingfrom Monrovia, that is in
(04:19):
California.
Thank you, jacob Harkey, okay,wow, we've got a lot.
Willamette, willamette,Willamette, good evening.
Everybody from central Arkansas.
From a poet, brian Lucas, okay.
And then we've got hey Neighborfrom Largo, florida.
Okay, that's a lot guys, that'sa lot.
If I missed you, I'm sorry.
(04:40):
There's a lot of people from alot of places.
Hello from Chicago.
Thank you, here we go.
Do one last one Merrimack, nh.
Is that New Haven?
65 degrees, mark Hegg.
Okay, oh boy, that's a lot ofpeople.
Thank you for joining useverybody, we appreciate it.
(05:00):
Again, if you want to join thegiveaway that we're doing at the
end of the video today, justtype in hashtag all nighters and
then we'll get right to it.
Let's see.
Is this the one?
Yeah, so I've got a hold ofthis schedule.
It's funny, actually.
I searched for a schedule andit just happened to be a Golden
Era production schedule, whichis where I worked for many years
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schedule, which is where Iworked for many years.
Oh yeah, another thing.
I'll just go back here for asecond.
We have, according to YouTube,we have a ton of new viewers
that are tuning in each week.
So if I do say things thatwe've covered in past videos,
it's for that reason.
But I was in the SeaOrganization.
(05:45):
My name is Mark Headley.
I was in the Sea Organizationfrom 1989 is when I joined.
I was recruited for the SeaOrganization.
I grew up in Scientology and Iwas working and attending a
Scientology school in the late1980s and the school was
actually being run byScientology's C organization.
(06:06):
It was called the DelphiAcademy and they are under a
group called Applied Scholasticswhich is under a group called
Able International, and AbleInternational is the social
betterment corporation ofScientology.
It runs Scientology SocialBetterment Corporations, which
they include to be AppliedScholastics.
(06:28):
Narconon, which is a drugrehabilitation system developed
by L Ron Hubbard that's based onno science whatsoever and is
actually pretty unhealthy andthey've had a lot of deaths.
A group called Criminon, whichis basically just the first part
of the Narconon program.
You do the courses and stuff,but in prison, without the drug
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detox.
And then another group calledthe Way to Happiness Foundation.
And so I was attending thisschool, the Delphi Academy,
which is a Scientology-owned andrun school.
They use L Ron Hubbard, whatthey call study technology, um
and um, and they teach you a lotof Scientology in this school
(07:11):
on the courses that you do.
And then, um, I was recruited.
I was 15.
I think I was.
I just had turned 16 years oldwhen I was recruited, or I was
just turning.
I was right around there, so itwas in the summer years old
when I was recruited or I wasjust turning, I was right around
there, so it was in the summerof 1989.
And I worked in Los Angeles.
I was actually recruited forthe organization that was in
(07:34):
charge of the school.
So I was recruited to work atABLE International, the
Association for Better Livingand Education, which is in
charge of all those socialbetterment corporations, and I
worked there for about ninemonths and then I was
transferred to the internationalheadquarters in Gilman Hot
Springs, california, whereGolden Air Productions is
located, and I held many poststhere.
(07:59):
I was a quality controltechnician, I was a systems
designer and installer,audiovisual systems designer and
installer.
I was a systems designer andinstaller, audio visual systems
designer and installer.
I was a shoot crew chief, whichis equivalent to a first
assistant director on a filmcrew.
I was a pre-production directorthat got all the costumes,
makeup, sets and props andresearch done for films.
(08:19):
And then I was the.
I was an assistant producer ofall of the audiovisual products
of the internationalheadquarters at Golden Arrow
Productions and then I went onto become the executive producer
and then I was director ofAudiovisual Systems
International and then Iskedaddled, and when I
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skedaddled it was in 2000,january of 2005.
So I essentially worked at thisgolden air productions facility
in the sea organization from1989 in LA and then 1990 to 2005
.
And, um, and this schedule thatI'm going to show you is the
(09:04):
bare bare minimum schedule of aSea Org member, and pretty much
all Sea Org members have aschedule that's very, very
similar to this, no matter wherethey are, if they're in another
continent or if they're in LosAngeles, if they're in Florida
or New York.
There's Sea Organizationinstallations and what they call
bases all over the world andthere are probably between three
(09:31):
to 4,000 Sea Org membersinternationally and you get paid
.
When I was there and I've beentold that it went up for a
little bit but then it went backdown you get paid around $50 a
week.
That's what you get paid.
If in the C organization Forthe schedule that we're about to
show you, you make $50 and thenthey pay taxes out of that 50
(09:54):
bucks.
So you get about when I wasthere, I think it was $46.24 or
something like that $44.26 andsomething almost 45 bucks is
your takeaway after, after thegovernment gets that cut.
Um, so yeah, 45 bucks a weekfor this schedule.
So now let's talk about, let'sshow the schedule.
(10:14):
Okay, so this is um and this iswhat's called an issue in the
sea organization.
It's just something that'sissued to all of the staff and
it's basically like generalinformation.
And this is the Golden EraProductions Extension Unit basic
schedule and this is from 26June 1987.
(10:37):
So it was a few years before Istarted working there, but this
was generally the schedule atthe base base as well.
At the golden air production'smain uh property, this um unit,
there's a.
There's a unit in los angelesbecause we're a studio in the
middle of the desert in gilmanhot springs, california.
(10:57):
It's about two to two and ahalf hours outside of los
angeles.
Because we're dealing in thestudio world, we often need
studio equipment and parts andtools and camera equipment and
lighting equipment that islocated in Los Angeles.
So there's an extension unit ofGolden Arrow Productions in Los
Angeles.
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They're basically a logisticsarm of the Golden Arrow
Productions desert base and theygo pick up equipment and then
they send it out to the property.
Because it's a confidentiallocation, there has to be like
an in-between, a go-between, acutout to go get this stuff.
Okay, so Golden Air Productionsextension unit basic schedule
(11:38):
Monday, tuesday, wednesday,thursday, friday and Sunday
basic schedule.
Now, the reason that theyexclude Saturday is because on
Saturday there's a policy that LRon Hubbard wrote.
L Ron Hubbard is the founder,the source, of all Scientology
technology.
L Ron Hubbard wrote that if youworked in golden era
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productions, that you should dowhat's called renovations every
weekend and enhance the property.
So there's a core team ofelectrical and construction and
HVAC.
There's a handful of guys thatare in each of those departments
and they do change the filtersand stuff like that.
If a new building needs to bebuilt at the property, the staff
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of the property build thisbuilding, everyone who works
there.
When I was there, there wasalmost a thousand crew that
worked at this property and Iwould say about 800 of those
people participated in therenovations, like David
Miscavige, the chairman of theboard of RTC he ain't doing
renos on Saturday and there wereother executives like that,
(12:41):
like the heads of some of thedifferent organizations, like
the commanding officer of theCommodores Messenger
organization he's not doingrenos.
So mainly the rank and filethat would participate in the
renovations.
And so that's why Saturday hasgot a different thing and we'll
(13:06):
get into renno's a little bitlater, okay, so this schedule
has them from 0900 to 0930breakfast.
So in los angeles they live andwork in the exact same location
, so they're just walking fromone building to another building
, like on the same block usually.
Or maybe in the case of thecomplex in Hollywood they might
(13:27):
have an apartment buildingthat's five or six blocks away
and they just walk to theproperty.
I think now they have almosteverybody living in the main
building at the complex.
If somebody knows somethingdifferent, you can put it in the
comments and hopefully thosepeople start.
I might even read it.
Okay, so half hour forbreakfast, 9 to 9.30.
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From 9.30 to 9.35, you havewhat's called a muster and in
the C organization you at leasthave three musters a day.
Sometimes you might have fouror five, depending on the base
and what's going on at the time.
At the imp base there weretimes when we might have five or
six musters a day because somany people were escaping from
(14:14):
the property that they needed tocount their chickens every few
hours to see if we lost any sothat they wouldn't get such a
big head start on the peoplelooking for them.
I laugh, but that's 100% true.
Okay, so you have a muster.
That's basically the commandingofficer of that organization is
like okay, this is what we'resupposed to do.
This happened yesterday or lastweek.
(14:38):
We're not doing any of that,we're going to do this, whatever
it's usually it could be.
It's supposed to be like two tothree minutes.
Sometimes these musters wouldgo for an hour.
If there was a lot of stuffgoing on, it was a lot.
Okay, then from in this schedulethey have these guys studying
in the morning.
Now a study period is two and ahalf hours.
So, depending on your schedule,you would either study from
(15:02):
morning to lunch or frommid-afternoon to dinner or after
dinner for two and a half hours.
It's a morning study, afternoonstudy or an evening study slot.
So these guys here in this unitin LA would study in the
morning and you can see it'sfrom 9.35 to 12 o'clock.
It's two and a half hour slot.
(15:23):
Then you have from noon to 1245.
They had exercise time andhygiene time.
This is wild guys.
So this is basically exercisetime.
So they've got 45 minutes toexercise and then wash up after
exercise.
(15:43):
Um, now, I'm not familiar withthis midday exercise time thing,
cause we at the inner bay, atthe base, our exercise time was
at 10 o'clock.
We would exercise from 10 to 1045.
And then you just, it was theend of the night, so, like, well
, you don't need to wash upCause you're just going to go
home.
You should probably take ashower then.
Um, so you would just basicallyget on the bus after exercise
(16:06):
stinking like you just played 45minutes of basketball.
Okay, Then these guys are havinglunch from 1245 to 115.
Now, that is a normal mealtime.
That's a half an hour meal.
That's a normal meal in the Corganization.
Um, I don't think in the entiretime I was there, lunch was
(16:31):
more than a half hour.
You just and that's travel timeto lunch, eat lunch and travel
time back from lunch.
So if you worked at the goldbase, um, your, your work
building could be a 10-minutewalk from the dining hall, and
if you left at 11.50 to go tolunch at 12 o'clock, you were in
(16:51):
trouble.
So, yeah, some people will belike I got to go pick something
up over at the garage and thegarage was next to the dining
hall and you'd leave at like11.45.
So then you go pick somethingup and then you just go eat.
You got to really be strategicon how you're going to milk that
30 minutes there.
Okay, then we go muster.
Okay, here we go See anothermuster.
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This is very key.
I saw this in the comments.
Chinese school, yes, like it'slike.
Chinese school, yeah, chineseschool, we'll.
We'll talk about that right now.
Okay, so from 12,.
So this says 115 to 120, musterand Chinese school.
So again, they got to counteverybody.
(17:35):
In the way they do a muster inthe C organization is you line
up at attention in lines of yourdivision.
Now if you have a giantdivision you might have several
lines, but usually in a Corganization division there's at
least three departments of eachdivision.
So you would line up bydepartment and if your
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department had a hundred peoplethen you might have to make
three lines.
Your department and thedepartment head would be in the
front of the line and then maybesection heads in the front of
the other lines.
In almost all the organizationsI worked in at Golden Air
Productions there were hundredsof people in Golden Air
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Productions and all of thedivisions I was in were at least
25 to 60 people in thatdivision.
So it was many, many lines ofpeople and if you were low on
the total pole you could be atthe way back side of the muster.
So the, the, the, the lines ofpeople might be 20 or 30 deep in
each line.
So if you were, like you know,just a worker bee, you'd just be
(18:44):
at the back of the line, no onecould see you you don't, no one
knows and you could be fuckingaround back there.
You could be talking tosomebody while the whole, while
the muster is taking place.
It's a very formal thing whereyou're at attention and you're
supposed to be listening, and ifyou're way in the back
sometimes you know nonsensecould be got up to there anyway,
chinese.
So what they would do at themuster and this was normally a
(19:06):
lunch and a dinner muster thing,sometimes we would do it at
morning musters If some sort ofstrategic direction was issued
by David Miscavige, he wouldwrite this whole big program and
plan and everything, and aspart of that one of the steps
would be for the crew of anycertain organization to have to
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Chinese school a certain thingall the time at every single
muster.
And in Golden Air Productions LRon Hubbard actually suggested
in an advice that Golden AirProductions should Chinese
school the definition of a teamat musters and so for, I would
say, for at least 10 of the 15years I was there, we, at almost
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every single muster we wouldChinese school the definition of
a team by L Ron Hubbard, and itwas this whole issue.
It was like I want to say maybe10 or 15 paragraphs and we had
to do the entire thing.
And we had to.
What you do is they have somepeople that hold up this giant
sheet of of paper, like a rollof paper, and someone has
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written in giant letters this LRon Hubbard saying and they
would say team, the definitionof a team.
A team is a group of peoplethat get along and they usually
do great.
You know whatever it is andit's all written out.
And the person in front of thegroup says team, what is it?
And then you say team, thedefinition of a team is.
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And then you read the entirething.
And if the crew can't read theentire thing without messing it
up in perfect unison, then theyhave to do it again, and then
you have to do it again and youbasically have to keep doing it
until you know it by heart.
And then they take the thingdown, they take the writing down
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, and then the person juststands up there and says team,
what is it?
And then the entire crew inunison has to say team.
The definition of a team isit's a group of people that work
along to a common purpose andthey normally get along great.
Now the trick is to come up,you know, and you have to read
this entire thing and get itperfect.
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We probably did that with ahundred different things.
That was just the definition ofa team.
There's tons of differentthings.
That was just the definition ofthe team.
There was tons of other things.
You have to Chinese school, thepurpose of golden era
productions, the valuable finalproduct of golden era
productions, all these differentthings, knowledge reports,
policy letter about you know Joepins, joe pinprick, right, you
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get, it's a whole policy letterand you have to do that whole
thing.
Anyway, that's Chinese school.
That's supposed to take.
Heard this?
That's supposed to take fiveminutes.
It's never really that fast.
Okay, then, from 1.30 to 5.15is production.
Now, in this unit these guys aredriving around Los Angeles
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picking up packages for goldenair productions in the desert.
So their time to do that isfrom one 15 to five, 15.
Now, of course, if you're goingout to Alhambra or Monrovia to
pick up some speakers andthere's traffic, you might not
make it back in time for this.
So these guys are a littleloosey goosey, but this was
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their general laid out schedule.
Okay, then from five, 15 to sixo'clock they have dinner.
Now that's a 45 minute dinner.
Okay, now I don't mind sayingthat these guys seem like they
might be slackers.
Okay, cause 45 minute meals,that's wild.
The golden Era Productions, wewere rocking 30 minute meal
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breaks, um, and we were evenrocking 15 minute lunch and 15
minute deal, uh, dinner breaksfor a while, but it never.
I mean, we would have a halfhour and you know when we'd get
45 minutes.
I think on Thanksgiving wewould get 45 minutes, cause you
can't be eating all thatThanksgiving in 30.
You got to get an extra 15minutes to chow down on stuffing
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.
But yeah, that's a lot, 45minutes.
I don't know what you're goingto do with all that time.
Okay, now you've got from sixto 605, another muster.
So this is the third muster ofthe day for these guys in LA and
they live and work in mostlyall the same places and every
one of these musters, everybodygets rounded up and gets counted
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.
Oh, and when you go to themuster, the division heads, I
didn't tell this.
And when you go to the muster,the division heads, I didn't
tell this.
So the the, there there's a, theDER INR, which is the director
of inspection reports.
He's like the chief of policefor that C organization and he
has under him these, they'recalled MAAs, master at arms, and
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they're like the police,they're like the police officers
and he's the chief of police.
The police, uh, they're likethe police officers and he's the
chief of police anyway.
And the maas, um, are, arethere, they're trying to keep
track of everybody and andthey're the ones that find out
if somebody escaped or whateverthey got to track them down.
But the durian r says, uh, youknow, attention, and then
everybody, you know, stands upstraight and faces forward and
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then, um, they say, um, what dothey say?
Somebody, help me out here,seer members?
Um, I think they say divisionone and then division, the head
of the division one sayspresident, are accounted for and
, depending on what's going onat the time, there might not be
able to have any accounted forus.
But, like in division one, theyhave the switchboard operator,
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the person who answers thephones, so that person's always
on the phone.
They don't go to musters.
There's certain people, likethe security guards, at the
booth they're watching andopening the gates and they're
being the security guards,they're not coming to muster.
So division one, say, might saypresident accounted for, and
then the commanding officer orthe DURINR says who's accounted
for?
And they go one on reception,three on watch, three secured
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from watch.
So the night shift that'ssleeping is secured from watch,
so they would be sleeping.
So you might say three on watch,three secured from watch, one
on reception and one on aproject, or you know somebody,
you know tracking somebody down.
They'll just say somebody's ona project or they're, they're,
they're out or whatever.
They'll use some kind of codedwordage and then they just go
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through.
Division two accounted forpresent.
Division three present,division for present or
accounted for.
And they'll just go through andthen, depending on if what's
going on with the muster, theymight ask for those people that
are accounted for.
Okay, then muster.
Okay, then letter writing.
Okay, and that's from 625.
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6 0, 5.
This is really tiny, by the way.
I should make my screen bigger.
Why am I doing this?
Why am I there?
You go, just okay.
6 0, 5 to 6 30.
So 25 minutes of letter writing.
Okay, we're going deep, we'regoing inside baseball, I'm
trying not to.
But golden era productionsAnother thing that L Ron Hubbard
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wrote about golden eraproductions, and if you're a
staff member in any Scientologyorganization or if you were,
you'll know this there's a thingcalled the Org Gold Officer.
Oh, somebody's texting me.
Did I mess something up?
No, it's a joke, man.
So L Ron Hubbard wrote thatevery single staff member in
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golden era productions, everySea Org member in golden Era
Productions, every CEO member inGolden Era Productions, should
be writing to somebody in aScientology organization about
using the products of Golden EraProductions the tapes, the
lectures, the CDs, dvds, vhs,laser discs, whatever it was
that we were sending these guysat the time and so you would
have to write.
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I did this for many years, Ithink.
I think I had New Haven,connecticut and someplace in
Ohio.
Each person in Golden ArrowProductions had to write to a
person in one of theseorganizations and if you, if you
were a SeaWorld member atGolden Arrow Productions, you
were just assigned anorganization.
So I had Ohio for a long time,and then I think I got another
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one and I just had to write tothese people.
I didn't know any of them.
I would just write to them andyou had to write um, if you
wrote 10 letters this week, yougot to write 11 letters next
week and then, if you then, 12letters and 13 layers and so on.
So you're just writing thesepeople the most Monday like, hey
Bill, I never heard back fromyou on that last.
Uh, how many course uh packsyou sold that had lectures with
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it?
Please write me.
That's it.
You would just crank out about10 or 15 of those.
And whoever, whoever in goldenair productions, whoever's
division wrote the most amountof these things were called OGO
letters, org gold officer.
Whoever's division wrote themost OGO letters, he would get
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donuts.
And Claire and I were laughingbecause when we were doing that
severance episode, they havethis thing what is it called the
waffle party?
We had the donut party.
We actually did have a donutparty.
This is not.
This is not a joke.
We would have staff meeting andthen they would announce okay,
and also it's a totally riggedgame because, like some
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divisions have 12 people, likethe sales division has 12 people
and they're actually the onesthat are in charge of the org
gold officer program, which Ididn't even realize until I just
said it, but they have, um,they have 12 people.
Well, the estates division has ahundred people.
There's there's hundreds ofpeople in this division, or a
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lot maybe, maybe 70 or 80.
At times it was giant and attimes it got smaller, but
regardless, those guys wouldalmost always win and they're
animals, are big constructionguys and HVAC guys and the
grounds crew and theelectricians and all these guys
and they would literally be the,the, the Ogo, uh, the Ogo
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officer.
That was her, that was her post, this lady, her name was Marge
and she wore these like um alienantennas and she would, would
get up and staff and go.
Ok, the winners this week arethe Estates and they won every
single week for like five yearsand they would give, they would.
There would be tables andtables of dozens of donuts and
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they would literally descend onthem like thumb for sharks.
Just obliterate these donuts,anyway.
So that's what this letterwriting nonsense is about.
Okay, and then production.
So now, from 630 to 945 isproduction, and so that's
another period where you're justworking.
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Now I don't know what theseguys in LA are going to do from
730 to 945.
They probably have to fill outpaperwork and stuff like that.
That's probably what they do,because everything's closed.
But at the base we were makingCDs and DVDs and VHSs and
cassettes and, um, we weremaking things where I worked, um
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, so that's what we would doduring that time.
We just make more stuff, okay.
So now it's 9.45 to 10.
Oh, no, no, no, it's 11.45.
Sorry, guys, 6.30 to 11.45 isproduction, and then 11.45 to
2400 is cleaning stations.
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So there's no maids.
In Scientology, if you work intreasury, the people that clean
treasury are the people thatwork in treasury.
And so for 15 minutes every day, you're supposed to do cleaning
stations.
Basically wipe your desk down,take out the garbage, do the
shredding.
Oh, that's another thing.
In Scientology, you're notallowed to throw any paperwork
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in the garbage.
Everything has to be shredded.
Scientology you're not allowedto throw any paperwork in the
garbage.
Everything has to be shredded.
If there's words on it, youhave to shred it.
And so you have to do shreddingduring that time as well, and
then at midnight you secure.
That's just a normal day, okay.
Now if at Golden Air Productions, if we're supposed to make 50
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000, we stand tall.
You know that video where davidmiscavige is wearing that her
maze.
I'm not going to say the word,but he's just wearing a sweater
that might not a masculine manmight not be wearing.
Um, he's wearing a sweater andhe's singing.
We stand tall.
Okay, we made cassettes of thatscientology music single and we
had to produce like 50 000000of these things and if they've
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got to get done, they got to getdone tonight.
And if it's time to secure,which means go to bed, and we've
only got 10,000, and we'resupposed to be up to 30,000,
well, we best be getting tomaking 10,000 of those tonight.
So by tomorrow we're on targetwith whatever we're supposed to
make that Anyway.
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So you, 10,000 of those tonight.
So by tomorrow we're on targetwith whatever we're supposed to
make that anyway.
So you would just stay up allnight.
You would just, instead ofgetting on the bus or instead of
walking back to your birthing,you just go back to work until
somebody says you can go home.
Now, in a lot of areas in goldenair productions, if the boss or
the head of the division isstaying up to work on a certain
area, it's just expected thatanyone who's in that area stays
there until they leave.
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So if the place where I workedfor many years was the
manufacturing division and I wasin the AV production division,
which is the ones that made thetapes and the CDs and the VHSs
and all that.
But the people that made thee-meters were in the same
division.
That was called the HEMdepartment and we were the AV
department.
And then there was the systemsdepartment.
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And if the HEM guys, theHubbard Electrometer
Manufacturing Department, ifthey stayed, if the div head,
the head of manufacturing, themanufacturing der, stayed up to
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get all these meters fixed ormade or whatever, then it would
just be a given that everybodywho worked in the meter
department would be there untilit was a huge flap and the
manufacturing division was goingto be in the shits because of
the meter guys.
The systems guys and the AVguys would also stay up all
night and work in the meterdepartment to get whatever they
needed done.
And so you had to be a jack ofall trades because you could be
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doing your job during the day,but then you have to be doing
somebody else's job all throughthe night and then go back to
doing your job during the day.
Anyway, so you're basicallyfrom 9 in the morning that's
when you turn on and you turnoff at midnight and so from
midnight to 9, that's where youhave going to wherever.
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Wherever your, your bed or yourbirthing is it's called in the
Sea Org, wherever your birthingwas.
Sometimes that could be a bus15 minute bus ride, sometimes
that could be a 10 minute walk,sometimes it could be a three
minute walk, depending on whereyou worked and where you lived
in a Sea Org base and thenshould shower and shave and then
bed and then back up in themorning and do it all over again
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.
Yeah, I did that for 15 yearsand I would say at the Golden
Air Productions property.
You would usually do the minimumof one all-nighter a week.
Depending on what division ordepartment you were in.
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You could count on oneall-nighter a week and there
might be some periods where youfew months where you go with all
night with no all-nighters, andthen you could go into some
periods where there might befour or five all-nighters a week
and so, and usually that onSunday or Saturday, depending on
where your Sea Org base is, youbasically have the morning to
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do what's called the clean shipprogram or basically your
laundry and clean your roomwhere you live, your birthing
and that's where you might washyour bedding, vacuum dust
everything down, clean you live,your birthing, and that's where
you might wash your bedding,you know.
Vacuum dust everything down,clean the toilet, clean the sink
, whatever.
And then, and you had threehours to do all of that, and at
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every Sea Org base that I everwent to, that three hours was
just extra sleep.
You would somehow you wouldthrow your laundry and when you
got home you'd get up at thelast possible second and you'd
shake something off and put iton, and you would.
That three hours was sleep, nomatter where you went or trying
to get up, the nonsense that youweren't supposed to get up to.
You'd have to get up becauseyou basically had three hours
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where really nobody was keepingtrack of you, and so that's.
Usually people chose to do that.
And also in a lot of Sea Orgbases you would have a staff
meeting on Friday night.
I don't know if they have astaff meeting.
We'll have to look and see ifthat's included in here
somewhere.
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I think it's at the bottom.
Anyway, there's also a staffmeeting which usually will
happen on a Thursday or a Fridaynight, depending on what
organization you're in, butusually it's Friday.
And then um, and that afterstaff meeting on Friday it would
basically be party, because youdon't have to go to post on
Saturday Cause you're going todo this renovations thing on
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Saturday, which we'll get tothat in a second.
What, how am I doing on timehere?
I'm doing perfect, thank you,I'm good, just ask me, I'll tell
you.
Anyway, so you do, you take offon Friday night, and then you
might.
If you were really going, justa wild and crazy kind of guy,
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you might order a Domino's pizzaand watch a movie.
If you could swing it on aFriday night, because you could
stay up to like three or four,cause the next day you're going
to be doing block, wall or stone, veneer or mixing concrete or
electrical or you know, plumbingor underground sewage, nothing
important that's going to needlike sleep or brain power.
And so you, you party on Fridaynight, and then you come into
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reno's hungover, and nothungover from drinking, but just
hungover from more, not sleep,and then you do that all day
long.
And then you, you go home,you're supposed to shower and
shave and get cleaned up forwhat's called source night, and
on Saturday you have to listento, like a LRH lecture, the
whole entire crew, they all goin there and they just sit in
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the seats.
And I listened to an LRHlecture and it usually is good,
depending on how long thelecture it is.
It's usually an hour to twohours an LRH lecture and um, and
it's him giving a lecture topeople in the 1950s or 60s or
whatever, and it's it's long andit's also completely boring.
Nonce a bunch of nonsense,gobbledygook and also prime
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opportunity to get some moresleep in.
But if you're caught sleepingat source night you usually get
in trouble.
So you gotta have like a reallygood way to.
I was telling Claire one time Ihad a really good.
I would put my hands on myknees and I would go like this,
like I was listening, but reallymy hand was just propping up my
face and my fingers were justpoking in my eyes so they could
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be closed and I'd get I couldget a good 45 minute cat nap in
at source night.
Anyway, a lot of fun, okay.
So now let's see.
Saturday breakfast, muster,renos, hygiene time.
Everything's the same, renos,okay.
So, renos, like I said,saturday Renos, you could
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literally be doing anything.
On Saturday, renos, I didelectrical concrete, mixing,
block, block, wall stone, veneer, plumbing, hvac, engine repair
and grounds.
Those are all the things that Idid over the 15 years I was.
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I I could arguably get a job atany doing any one of those
things and I would just I'd be ano, it'd be a no-brainer for me
.
Um, because I did it everysaturday for nine months and
then and the next thing, forthree years and then the next
thing for two years and then.
So you get to be a jack of alltrades.
If you're uh, sometimes there'speople that are just kind of
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worker bees.
They usually get thrown on thegrounds like de-weeding or just
doing something that it's likewhatever, if you do it, you do
it, if you don't, you don't.
We can't count on you to doanything.
But if you were passionateabout a certain trade, or if you
in a previous, before joiningthe Sea Org, if you worked in a
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trade, usually that was what youdid Like.
If you were an electrician bytrade before you joined the
c-org, most likely you'd just bean electrician in the c-org.
And if you weren't, if you werealso a really good audio
engineer, then you'd be an audioengineer during the week and
then on reno's you would 100 bean electrician.
Um, so that was that.
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That's also very usually whatall the trades I did were
usually very physical.
So you would mixing concreteand doing stone, veneer and
stonework and block wall or MCUs, masonry, concrete units.
Um, that's heavy work.
Um.
So, yeah, okay.
Uh, renos, renos, renos, renos,renos, renos.
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Okay, for this reason for thisplace, they Renos, renos, renos.
Okay, for this reason for thisplace, they, I guess in the
afternoon they go back toproduction, so they would only
do like a morning Renos in LosAngeles.
Oh, and here's where the CSP is.
So it says eight o'clock tonine 30.
Is that right?
Am I like am?
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Am I spacing it on militarytime, or is that 2,200?
Yeah, that's eight o'clock,right, eight to 930.
I don't know, I think I'mlosing my mind here.
An hour and a half for org CSP,sorry.
So org CSP.
So that's basically just like areally long cleaning stations
at the org.
So on Saturday night, that'strue, oh my God, org CSP.
So that's basically just like areally long cleaning stations
at the org.
So on Saturday night, that'strue, oh my God, org CSP.
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So org CSP at the base was anightmare, because there was an
organization called theCommodores Messenger
Organization and there's onethat's international.
And then there's a Commodoresmessenger organization that's
solely assigned to Golden AirProductions, called CMO Gold,
and these CMO Gold cats, most ofthem young teenage females,
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would be coming in with whitegloves on and they would just
rub the tops of doorways andshelves that haven't seen the
sun since 1982.
And they're just wiping thesewhite gloves, and if the glove's
not white're just wiping thesewhite gloves, and if the gloves
not white, then you got to keep.
You got to keep going, and thenthey have like 20 different
areas to inspect so you have towait for them to come back
around.
You could be there until threeo'clock in the morning waiting
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to get your white gloveinspection approved.
Um, so that was just a generalSaturday night.
Uh fun, uh kind of just likewheel of fortune.
You know, depending on who'sinspecting and what's going on
this week, we might be up till 3, or we might just be here an
extra half hour.
Okay, now they have from 9.30.
Oh, from 9.30 to midnight,personal CSP.
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So that's hardcore.
So they figured out a reallygood way to game the system.
In LA they basically just hadpersonal CSP on Saturday night.
This is LA Sea Org membersthinking here Because Saturday
night.
In LA that's a party all daylong.
So they made their free timewhen they're supposed to be
doing their laundry on saturdaynight.
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Yeah, see, we didn't have thatat the end base.
They made it on sunday morningwhen everything's closed.
Um, okay, then staff meaninghere, it is staff meaning it
says product conference.
Oh, yeah, so every c org memberhas to have a product
conference every day.
Product conference for allexecs and branch heads.
Daily Saturday productconference is at whatever that
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is 8 o'clock, yeah, 8 to 8.30and then 6 o'clock, I don't know
.
Anyway, they're having productconferences every day.
You want to talk aboutmicromanaging?
The C organization is managedby the hour at the staff level
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and then you literally aremicromanaging every day and
every week, and that's thelongest period you really manage
by is a week.
So if you made 85 widgets lastweek, you've got to make 86
widgets this week, and so on andso forth for the rest of the
time, until you crash and startall over again.
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Holy moly.
Yeah, I'm just going to do somequestions on Claire.
Were you two married at thistime that Mark is talking about?
Yeah, we were married from 1992and until now.
Yeah, right, don't mind, I'mgood, just ask me, I'll tell you
.
Um, yeah, that's a long time.
Um, okay, let's go to thecomments.
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Um, there's a lot of, there'sjust a lot of nonsense, guys,
that's all I can say.
Um, that is uh.
Oh, there you go.
Um, um, that is uh.
Oh, there you go.
Um, if I'm.
I don't know, I haven't donethe math on it lately, but I
think that schedule, if you justdo that schedule, it's between
a hundred and 120 hours a week.
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Basically, that's the barebones schedule.
A hundred hours a week.
If you're making 45 bucks anhour, um, that's basically about
50 cents an hour, I think.
When I calculated my paydivided by hours it was 36 cents
an hour is what I was takinghome.
I made considerably more thanthat this last week and in the
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past few years, but 36 cents anhour is what a Sea Org member
today is probably making.
Right now it's about $0.36 anhour.
It is common knowledge that SeaOrg members make less than most
prisoners in most countries Likethere are.
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I was watching a documentary ona prison in some foreign
country.
These guys are making fourbucks a day.
That might be more, and they'realso getting Saturday and
Sunday off.
I mean, what the hell?
They're in prison.
They're making the same amountas the senior members and for a
while, I think, what'sconsidered Chinese slave labor
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by today's standards?
The people that work infactories and there's inhumane
conditions and all of thesethings.
They make more than Sea Orgmembers and they get more time
off.
Think about that.
That's wild.
That's a wild thing thatChinese slave laborers make more
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money and get more time offthan present day SeaWorld
members.
Somebody can fact check thehell out of that if you want.
But that was the case a fewyears ago when I was researching
it.
Okay, for real, we're going todo comments now.
When I was researching it.
Okay, for real, we're going todo comments now.
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Eliza, your detail about theinsanity of this organization is
the best way to illustrate thedestructiveness of this cult.
Thank you for your integrityand stamina for continuing to
speak out Well.
Thank you, eliza S.
I appreciate that.
You know, like I was sayingearlier at the top of the show,
this is one of the most widelyrequested um things on the
channel is what are these guysdoing and what are they up to?
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So I figured we can do it.
I know we've we've covered thiskind of stuff before, but I've
never really gone through theschedule and just talked about
this.
Um, apostate, alex, in thehouse, the U?
S government spends more moneyper meal than the seahawk.
Oh, yes, this is another thingat the ant base and we thank you
, apostate alex.
Um, we've talked about this.
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The budget allocation forseahawk food for seahawk members
at the gold base was a dollarper day per crew member.
Okay, now, we weren't havingthe best of food, we weren't
having the worst of food, but itwas the cheapest of food,
that's for sure.
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And there were many times wherethe crew got food poisoning,
poisoning in mass.
That happened, I think, atleast three or four times that I
can remember.
Um, when I was at the property,there was a taco incident which
was very infamous.
I think that was like a nine.
That got like a 99% take rateon people that ate it.
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Like there was not a.
There were lines and lines atthe, at the restrooms, for hours
.
Question Zinu White.
Question.
I understand you adapt to thetime, but people's bodies
eventually just give out.
What are the weirdest placeswhere you or someone else has
found someone sleeping?
Oh my God, this is such a greatquestion, zinu White, yes, you
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do wear out and you do fallasleep.
I've heard of people fallingasleep standing up vacuuming.
I've heard of people crawlinginto a closet and then closing
the door behind them and goingto sleep.
The best one ever was this kidnamed Trevor who was in New York
and I think I talk about thisin my book Claire can pipe in if
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it is or isn't.
She edited a lot of stuff outof the book when it had to make
a certain page number and I knowI wrote the story but I don't
know if it's in the book.
This kid named Trevor wentmissing while we were having to
do the audiovisual systems inNew York and he just went to
sleep behind a curtain in thetheater and a New York
organization, the one right nearTimes Square.
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He just literally crawledbehind a curtain and went to
sleep and he slept there forlike 19 hours.
They thought he had blown andthey sent people out to go look
for him in Times Square and hejust like popped out behind the
closet like 18 hours.
It's like hey man, what's goingon?
And people were like are like,oh, dude, people are looking for
you, they think you blew, andbe like well, I only slept for a
(49:33):
few.
No, it's tuesday anyway.
Yeah, uh, we covered that.
Um, okay, good from a poet com,I worked a lot.
I'll comment I worked a lot whenI was serving in the us navy,
but but we got paid really well,got fed well and had plenty of
time off.
Yeah, a lot of times the SeaOrganization is compared to the
(49:55):
Navy because L Ron Hubbard, heliked doing Navy stuff and so,
like the orders of the day andthe way things are organized and
the communication systems, alot of it is loosely based off
of Hubbard's experience in themilitary and so a lot of people
(50:16):
can compare it to that.
But every person I talk towho's in the military is like oh
yeah, the Sea Org is like bootcamp that just never ends, where
they're just constantlybreaking you down.
Excuse me, but the pay is justnot good and the time off is not
good and also you're not reallydoing anything of value or
(50:38):
productive productivity.
Um, rorschach, 2 1, 1, 2.
Finally able to catch a livestream.
By the way, I have that sameshirt.
Well, okay, awesome.
This is, uh, untuck it thisepisode sponsored by untuck it?
It's not sponsored.
I bought this thing full price.
Um.
Thank you, rorschach, that'svery generous of you.
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Um question did claire have todo all that you had to do?
No, claire was in a.
Totally thank you for that,love, maddie.
Claire was in a totallydifferent um division when she
was in golden air production.
She was in the qualificationsdivision and she was a
supervisor, a course supervisor,so she would just supervise
students that were studying LRand Hubbard courses.
(51:22):
Um, and then she was also um,like when somebody was is was
doing a course and it didn't gogo well or it was going bad, she
was a person that would reviewwhy it was going bad.
And then she was promoted tothe Religious Technology Center
and then she didn't do anythingthat I did and for a while she
did a very similar function inReligious Technology Center
(51:45):
where she in the in thequalifications department of
religious technology center andthen she became what was called
the dirt and internal exec, rtc,which was just the executive
that was in charge of theinternal divisions of rtc, like
treasury and the executivedivision and the you know, the
divisions that were within,within RTC, that were not
(52:08):
outward or external facing Okay,okay, good, good, did that?
Oh going, claire.
Claire Headley on ScientologyBest hack ever Go into an
auditing room and put in the insession sign, turn light off,
sleep on four full off.
Yes, this is a very well-knownfact that auditing rooms because
(52:35):
it's a Hubbard policy thatyou're not allowed to disturb an
auditing session.
It's what's called a high crime.
Somebody going Claire cancorrect me on this, but if you
disturb a Scientology auditingsession, I think you can be
declared a suppressive person.
(52:57):
It's that kind of level of youcannot do it.
So if you want to take a reallygood nap, just go into an
auditing room, put in session onthe door, that's it.
No one's going to bang on thatdoor.
You could be in there for daysand somebody wouldn't do
anything.
Um, thank you for that, claire.
Oh, dalton, my favorite Marksaying that might, might be.
(53:19):
Uh, I'm good, just ask me, I'lltell you.
Okay, melanie Johnson questionDid you ever look at the
schedule and think this is nuts?
Um, I lived it.
Of course, I was always thinkingit was nuts.
Yeah, it was.
I'm just telling you, when youget to that point, your body it,
(53:39):
just it.
Oh, my goodness, dr X, thiswork schedule is a rigid system
designed for you to fail, whichis a form of mind control to
make you feel worthless when youfail to meet expectations,
designed for you to fail, whichis a form of mind control to
make you feel worthless when youfail to meet expectations.
No kidding, thank you for that,dr X.
Yeah, so this is also.
I didn't even really get intothis.
What time is it?
Oh, we got, we got seven moreminutes.
Okay, I'm going to tell thisone last thing and then we'll
(54:01):
get to the giveaways.
Okay, remember how I saidyou're doing your work and then
on Saturdays you got to dosomebody else's work.
You got to do the renovations.
Well, during the week also.
Like when I was saying if yourdepartment was tanking and you
needed to help from your otherdepartments in your division,
then they would come in and bailyou out.
(54:23):
Well, sometimes that happenedwith whole divisions in regards
to the organization.
So if there was a somethingthat needed to get done like if
david miscavige said I want theentire property re-sodded by
monday and it's friday night,okay, if the entire property to
(54:43):
be re-sodded would take hundredsand hundreds of people all
doing sod all day, all allFriday night, prepping it,
ripping up the old dirt allSaturday, hosing everything down
all Saturday, putting new soddown and then all Sunday putting
new sod down to have it alldone and tucked and fluffed and
tucked and ready for Mondaymorning with David Miscavige.
(55:03):
So if something like thathappened, everybody would come
off of their posts and just dothat.
And that is something thatcould happen maybe once or twice
a week or maybe once a month,depending on what was happening.
And if David Miscavige wasthere at the property when he
was there, he would be walkingaround and inspecting and going
(55:24):
into people's areas andinevitably would order this has
to get done or that has to getdone or this.
So whenever he was there, itwas basically a chaos machine,
the of just wherever he wentthere would be a just a path of
destruction and most likelyyou'd end up doing something on
that area, or you'd hear aboutit, or there'd be this kind of
flap, or this person would go tothe rpf or everybody would get
(55:48):
assigned a lower condition oryou name it.
It could happen from himwalking into somebody's area and
doing an inspection or doingsomething.
Okay, xenuite, just listening toyou read that schedule is
making me exhausted.
Yeah, the funny thing is is nowI mean this last few weeks I've
been doing a project here inColorado and I'm getting up at 6
(56:10):
, 630, and I'm getting home at 6or 630.
And it's a lot for me, but Imean kind of like, not really
because I have so many yearswhere I'm just accustomed to
just working Like if somethingis a problem and you have to
stay an extra two hours, it's,it's, it's four o'clock, you
(56:31):
have to be around six o'clock.
Whoopie do I was.
I used to work in a place wheresomething could happen at
midnight and you'd have to stayuntil the next morning and it
was just like you got to do it.
There's not, it is what it isanyway.
(56:52):
Yes, it's a lot, okay.
One last one katherine olsonsaid we had ofos org flag
officer.
Yeah, so if you were inmanagement in los angeles then l
ron hubbard wrote that thoseguys should be writing to the
organizations.
I tell you, these scientologyorganizations have all these
random people writing to themall week.
They don't have time to evenread the letters, much less
respond to the letters.
Katherine can say.
Um, if they were getting lotsof answers, I literally think I
(57:15):
might have written 2,000 lettersto these people in Ohio.
I think they wrote me back likefive times.
It was just a statistic.
You've got to write this manyletters and you just send them
out.
You don't even care if theyanswer.
If they answer, it's actually apain in the ass, because now
you have to be like, oh my God,when this I wrote this, I wrote
(57:36):
this nine months ago.
Okay, so it's totally notrelevant anymore.
And they just answered andyou're just like you literally
would write a letter saying dearJim, thanks for answering.
Did you find out about the blah, blah, blah?
And then just send anotherletter.
Okay, let's go to this giveawaything.
Let's see what's going on here.
(57:56):
Thank you guys for all thecomments I'm doing.
I'm literally I'm, I'm, I'mhome alone on this thing.
I'm.
Let's see what I got.
Oh, look at that, I already gotit.
42 people have entered in to win.
I thought we'd have less thanthat, but okay, there you go.
That's good.
Let's see what the live issaying.
Again, if you want to get inhere, the key word is
(58:17):
all-nighters.
The secret word is all-nighters, and Christian B says you're
still awesome.
I absolutely need to catch upon this channel.
Jealous of the beard growingability.
Yeah, I can grow a beard, noproblems.
This is like two weeks, right,something like that, maybe two
months All-nighters.
(58:37):
Yeah, there's a bunch morepeople coming in there.
Yeah, if you want to win, justtype in all-nighters and yeah,
you could win a free gift fromthe BFG merch store.
Okay, I'm going to do the drawhere, pushing the button.
I think, hmm, there, it is Okay.
(58:58):
Ooh, look at Clara, claire, oh,and Shannon.
Ooh, I almost won.
Ooh, robert almost won and Iwon.
I knew there would be a daywhen I would win.
You know what I deserve that.
You know I really do With allthe stuff I give away.
I think I'm going to get whatshould I get?
(59:19):
I think I'll get a Zinu as myhomeboy sweater.
Of course I'm going to redrawyou maniacs.
Okay, hold on a second.
Jesus Christ, somebody saidrigged, I'm drunk.
I just I made.
I only commented one time.
I said to put them.
I said to put all nighters inthe thing, nikki and
(59:42):
congratulations.
Wow, yeah, look at me.
I got to go down here.
Well done, wait, wait, wait.
Where is it?
It's moving too fast now.
Well done, mark.
Congratulations.
The system is ScreamYard based.
(01:00:05):
I can't rig it.
Congratulations, nikki Ann.
Email Claire at BlownForGoodcomwith a link to the item that
you would like in theblownforgoodcom merch store and
she will send you a code and youjust you just order it and they
just ship it directly to you.
It's a really cool systemactually, the and they have a
stream here and has a giveawaytool just for it, which is
totally not rigged.
And yeah, there you go, notrigged.
(01:00:28):
And yeah, there you go.
Let's go back to here, let's go.
Oh, there I am.
I hope you guys like this.
If you want me to do a video ona certain subject, just bleep,
bloop it down in the comments.
What YouTube does.
Now, I didn't know this untilrecently.
I was doing I was researchingsomething for a project and
(01:00:49):
somehow I got into this articleand it basically said that
YouTube is going through allyour comments on your channel
and then they're serving you upwhat people want you to do a
video on, and it's just doing itautomatically.
And I just went to this tab andI looked at it and, sure enough
, there it was.
And they said I kid you not.
I said a day in the life of aScientology CEO, remember,
(01:01:11):
that's what it said, that's whatpeople want to hear about.
So I was like, okay, let's seeif this YouTube thing is doing
the right thing and supposedlyit is because people wanted to
know this, and I did go throughthe comments and they did so.
If you want to know about acertain thing, you can search
the channel.
We have literally done hundredsand hundreds of hours of videos
on the most detailed and mundaneaspects of the organization.
(01:01:35):
But, um, if you, if there issomething that we have not
covered, um, get down there andbleep loop it and, uh, you know,
if I get another home alone daylike this, maybe I'll do it.
Um and then um, and look,Claire says thanks for joining.
She's in the chat.
She's somewhere where shedoesn't have a camera all set up
and everything but um, she's,she'll be back.
(01:01:57):
She also did a video with Tonyuh Ortega from, uh, the
underground bunker.
Um, and and uh, you shouldcheck that out.
It's just the last video, um,that just came out this week.
I think it was on Fridaymorning.
It came out.
It was all about how people gettheir suppressive person
declare order written on themand what Scientology goes
(01:02:19):
through to get it approved andall the things they fill it out.
I'm going to do a few morequestions because people are
writing here.
A few more questions becausepeople are writing here.
Joe says Claire was missed, butMark, you held this down.
Well, thank you very much.
(01:02:39):
I appreciate it.
Did you do the information fullhat?
I don't know about theinformation full hat, but I did
do.
For every post that you do inthe Sea Org there's a hat it's
called the full hat and it'sbasically all the writings that
L Ron Hubbard ever wrote aboutthat job or anything that anyone
who's done that job may haveput into something that says
this is how to do this job.
And for L Ron Hubbard there'scourses for all of the
(01:03:03):
organization.
Full hats, there's everythingfor all of those posts.
Golden Arrow Productions is alittle tricky because they're
very specialized posts, but whenI was at Able International I
did the treasury.
I was a treasury secretary, Iwas the vice president of
personnel for a few months and Igot busted off of that because
I couldn't get any new peopleinto the Sea Org except for my
(01:03:24):
sister Bummer.
And then I was the treasurysecretary and I slated at that
and I did the treasury secretaryfull hat and then I did the
full hat for quality control andall those other things I did
all the full hats for too, but Idon't know about this
information for nonsense.
I love rewatching when I'mcooking, cleaning, et cetera.
(01:03:46):
Well, thank you, love, and Iappreciate that.
This is great.
It all seems to be a lot ofbusy work without any planning.
That's exactly correct.
So my job here is done becauseI explained it, and it is a lot
of busy work without anyplanning.
And this guy says it all seemslike to be a lot of busy work
without any planning.
Yeah, pretty much.
If there's a takeaway, there'sseveral thousand let's say three
(01:04:10):
to four thousand ScientologySea Org members that are just
writing each other and they'remarketing things on graphs and
they're talking to people andevery once in a while they get a
little money from some peopleand that's it.
It's a big, giant busy workscheme to get people to give
(01:04:31):
them money.
And there's a big thing inScientology oh, if you want to
go on a leave or if you want totake a leave of absence, you got
to get it approved and somebodyhas to cover your job and they
cannot lose you.
The world is going to end ifyou are not here doing this job
and then when you escape somehow, the world doesn't end.
So, yeah, you could just not dothat and do something else, and
(01:04:56):
you'll be a lot happier, mostlikely so if you are a Sea Org
member or if you're Scientologywatching this.
This is what's going on inthere.
It's just busy work.
They're just wasting money andthey're just spending your money
and they're not making.
They're not taking any of themoney for themselves.
It's all going to Miscavige forsushi, snowmobile parties with
Tom Cruise, little yachts,little yacht trips with Tommy
(01:05:18):
boy.
That's where all the money goes.
Okay, necessary trouble saysthanks, claire and Catherine,
you're a great mods and reallydo add to the chat.
Yeah, thank you Claire andthank you Catherine and thank
you Claire for joining us andyeah, I think that's enough.
I think that's all for now.
(01:05:43):
We did have a.
We have been doing shorts andwe did a whole bunch of Surge
shorts and if you haven't seenthe story of Surge Obolinski,
you can go check that out.
That's the gentleman in thebunch of the shorts that we've
been releasing on the channelrecently.
And Serge has been doing great.
We're trying to get him we'restill trying to get him some
work.
Finding work for Serge has beena uniquely challenging endeavor
(01:06:03):
and you've got to find somethingthat's close to him that he can
do without having arms, withjust his hooks, and, um, that he
wants to do and that he can get.
He can.
It's worthwhile.
You know there's it's a lot ofpieces of the puzzle that have
to fit to make this happen.
So, um, we think we've got somecool stuff kind of in the works
(01:06:24):
and we'll see how surge likesit and what happens.
But, um, that's that okay.
Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
Let me, um, oh man, I gotta, Igotta, get this comment off
before and and we'll see howSerge likes it and what happens.
But that's that, okay, thanksguys, I appreciate it.
Let me, oh man, I got to getthis comment off before I end
this and then play the outro.
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